Constant AMD Drivers Timeout

[autumn mica]

I play ow consistently and I haven’t had issues at all with amd drivers until recently 3 days ago. I play for a bit and then my game freezes crashes. The game tells me I lost my rendering device and adrenaline tells me I have a driver timeout. I’ve done ddu and reinstalled drivers. I’ve rollbacked drivers but I can’t use adrenaline so I don’t bother testing it(playing without Radeon Anti lag is horrid). I’ve disabled all potential ocs which include expo, pbo, & x3d gaming mode. I’ve also just applied the undervolt setting for the gpu on adrenaline. This has drastically reduced the frequency of timeouts but they still occur, thanks

[solemn fable]

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[solemn fable]

can you go into bios and set your memory to auto pls

also, i assume your GPU has a dual vBIOS switch, do those crashes occur on the other vBIOS aswell?

[autumn mica]

the physical switch on a card, so id switch it to "quiet"?

[solemn fable]

yeah

[autumn mica]

Also does the ss show that there is some ram tuning, I left it on auto

[solemn fable]

the speed got me, but some sticks dont go to 2400MHz / 4800MT/s when set to auto

[autumn mica]

I switched it to silent vbios, should I leave adrenaline default, I currently have it on “undervolt”

i just put it on default

im going to game and see what happens

scary seeing my gpu memory temp at 93

[solemn fable]

ye default

[autumn mica]

So yeah it happens just now with the different vbios

A new pattern that I’ve seen is that it happens after playing for like 1.5 hours

[autumn mica]

Could it be a ram clean up error? Usually happens when I hit tab in game, game barely starts, the game is finishing or when power spikes when a lot of stuff is happening(maybe don’t quote me on it)

[autumn mica]

what should be my next trouble shoot step, im thinking of replacing mobos w/ a clean install of windows, but idk if i can just transfer the same drive while installing a freshwindows w/ all my files

or do i have a "dying gpu", granted ive been running the gpu 100% as long as i can remember and the delta is 20 degrees

[solemn fable]

limit your GPU Boost Clock to ~2700MHz

[autumn mica]

Do I put it back on oc vbios and set the boost clock to that via adrenaline?

I have red devil if that matters at all

[solemn fable]

leave it on quiet for now

[autumn mica]

Okay

max freq to 2700?

[solemn fable]

yep

[autumn mica]

alright ill update whenever if it crashes

i ran the integrated stress text in adrenaline, and the clock never went above 2530

[autumn mica]

yeah it happened again

[autumn mica]

its annoying,
i think if it pulls anything more than 340w it goes crazy. i was running the game for a while on a slightly reduced settings and it was fine
i upped it back up because i thought it would be fine with the boost clock limited

[solemn fable]

what Power Supply do you have, and do you use dedicated power cables for each of the GPUs power plugs?

[autumn mica]

msi meg 1300w

yeah dedicated

3 seperate cables

[autumn mica]

also i have to ctrl,win,shift,b every single time before launching the game or i get double overlay, and choppy frames

[autumn mica]

still happens what would be the best course of action

[vivid bluff]

Wait double overlay but which overlay?
Also you mentioned you have been using the card 100% since when you got it, don't say how long ago but maybe a repaste can help? I have the PCRD Limited and haven't had issues 🤞

[autumn mica]

Metrics overlay from adrenaline

I’ve had the card for like 1.5 years

They say repasting red devil is a nightmare

[vivid bluff]

Hmmm, i think the pc is crossing the Igpu with the gpu

nahhh man lot's of screws but as long as you have a little method is easy just patience

[autumn mica]

I’ve updated drivers and the double overlay is gone

I still get driver timeout tho

At this point I’m just gonna clean install windows

[vivid bluff]

only reason the overlay would be on twice is 2 signals from the 2 gpu's triggering the layout

[autumn mica]

I don’t know what else to do

[autumn mica]

It would happen when I would boot up a game

One of the overlays goes to n/a and the other one shows metrics

[vivid bluff]

ok i have 1 thing to try since you are already tired figure this won't hurt

What I would try, but that's just me.

Go bios disable Igpu.
Then uninstall the gpu drivers with AMD Cleaning tool or DDU, reboot!.
Then install the new drivers, reboot!
Now try everything you want to try including a game.
If all is ok then turn off the pc, go to bios, enable the igpu and try the same stuff you did before.

Not guaranteed but i'm about 85% that should solve it.

As long as you do the steps 1 by 1 no jumping or shortcuts, annoying yes, but hey.

[autumn mica]

Would it be under “integrated graphics configuration”

The integrated graphics

It’s set to UMA auto

Should I just disable

[autumn mica]

Sorry I worded it wrong, like when I’m gaming I use it 100%. And I game for long time

[vivid bluff]

ahh so you don't see 2 overlays 1 on top of the other?

Yes under integrated graphics in the Bios and i did say DISABLE not auto.

Well i see you are busy playing, so i'm going to make dinner then it's play time no more support at least for today.
But I'm sure that should get you going, tag me up if anything.
ps: I ignore dm msgs.

[autumn mica]

lmaoo thank you

[autumn mica]

ill do as u said

[autumn mica]

well i did until i updated drivers

even tho i thought i already had the newest driver

[solemn fable]

sorry for the late reply, do you use a recent combined driver?

[autumn mica]

I don’t know what a recent combined driver is

[solemn fable]

try this driver

https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-26-1-1.html

[vivid bluff]

@autumn mica did you get it going?

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[autumn mica]

I’ve been busy but I’m doing it rn as we speak

[vivid bluff]

Not saying i'll be here as i'm going to be in a few but hit me up if anything to see if i'm still around if you need anything

[autumn mica]

Thanks for sure

[vivid bluff]

Oh by the way when you install the new ones pick FACTORY RESET under the optional tab in the driver installation software

[autumn mica]

I’m reinstalling drivers

I’ve never done that

[vivid bluff]

Do em a favor do not move from there

andf just reinstall over

but look at the window you will see optional

[autumn mica]

Yeah I know the box ur talking about but I’ve never click factory reset

[vivid bluff]

click and you wiull see Factory restet tick it on

and run

So i'm telling you to do it! lol

your pc won't blow up!

lol

[autumn mica]

Okay I’m gonna install drivers

And tick the box

[vivid bluff]

ok please do that tick it.
The driver won't tell you but after it's installed do not launch it just close it and reboot the pc.

[autumn mica]

Ohhh okay

Dangg

Yeah I didn’t know abt that

[vivid bluff]

No it's just old habits, that I think are actually good, makes sense every time you install something

1. To not have other stuff open in the background
2. As soon as it installs anything reboot so everything is nice and fresh in place

[autumn mica]

Also for software type do I leave it on default

Like it’s fine

I’m assuming

[vivid bluff]

Yes, but what do you mean software type?

what is asking you for that?

[solemn fable]

Driver Only / Minimal / Full

[autumn mica]

I had to restart 3 different times after install

It keeps giving me the notif, system settings have changed reboot required

[vivid bluff]

wait what notif and what settings be more specific of the msg that is super important

in other words what in your pc is telling you that the system settings changed, becuase then you have something in the background overiding stuff

that should not happen out of a normal Driver install

should have been only as i told you Fact reset and by default is full, so if i didn't mention it you go with default which is full, but I need to know about that msg, what program trigerred it

[autumn mica]

i searched it up

its like this

it popped up twice

atleast

[vivid bluff]

Install problem have to go to work but if a recall it's an easy fix just have to wait to get home.

[autumn mica]

running fine for now

90+ vram temp tho is normal right

[autumn mica]

yeah it still crashes even with ur method

what should be my next course of action

I’m limiting max boost to 2600 now

[night jolt]

Vram temp looks way too high. How old is the gpu?

[autumn mica]

year and a half

vram temps hover around 89-91

at most 94

ppl say its fine aslong as its not above 100

[night jolt]

Still that is very close to 100. Probably a good idea to repaste it and clean it, change thermal pads

[autumn mica]

is it not normal for higher end cards

[autumn mica]

im reinstalling windows, swapped mobos and now im running dual channel memory

[autumn mica]

@vivid bluff I’m running heaven benchmark and my gpu be pausing, coil whine stops and the benchmark black screens or pauses and then returns to normal benchmark

[vivid bluff]

that's is not a good thing what was the psu again?

how many wts?

[autumn mica]

Msi meg 1300w

I’m messing around with my gpu in adrenaline

…

It’s fine if I up the pL

[vivid bluff]

ahh wait did you go a little too much on th UV?

[autumn mica]

But it I limit the clocks it does that

[vivid bluff]

didn't i give you a profile the last time?

[autumn mica]

No

I’m trying to learn uv on my own

[vivid bluff]

ok then try this

[autumn mica]

It was fine in cyberpunk but on heaven it stutters

[vivid bluff]

min, 2400 Mhz
max 2900 Mhz
Volt 1120
Vram 2686
Power tuning
PL slide all the way to the right 15

[autumn mica]

Alright gonna run it

[vivid bluff]

nothing else right only this and 3d mark open?

[autumn mica]

Heaven, 3d mark, and cyberpunk

I’m doing heaven benchmark

Still unstable

Crashed

[vivid bluff]

if you see low scores you know why all the open stuff in the background, as long as it doesn't pause or black screen

[autumn mica]

Yes

I added 10v and it’s more stable now, but it almost crashed, it did pause

[vivid bluff]

then lower the Vram -14

so 2686

that will give you a little more room

[autumn mica]

I’ve ran ddu again..

And when running benchmarks or games it’s always unstable

Like default settings

Do I have something faulting

[coarse trellis]

if benchmarks even fail then something is very wrong, test RAM

if RAM is ok your GPU is faulty, I had 7900xtx which passed all benchamarks but was crashing in some games no matter what I do, and I did everything including buying new atx 3.1 PSU

you could try to reseat it and clean pcie slot if you havent already reconnect the cables but ...