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Yeha leave those be
That was the pbs
Hdmi frl test and hdmi 2.0 support
You're looking for data link feature exchange
Thats on common platform
Yeah I wouldn't mess with those.
Its not in pbs than
Lemme see if I cna Google it.
It may only be a gen4 feature but I imagine your board would have it.
That there basically says its somewhere
Give me a moment to read through your mb's manual
Okay well the manual wasn't helpful.
I hate reddit lol
Maybe under PCIE features.
It's a pcie thing that enables gen4 higher data speeds.
Your board may not have it because it's gen5
Pci is the only one there and we have been there
You have a gen4 gpu though so this is why I'm curious.
Okay well if you can't find it in any of the other sections then don't worry about it
Ok so this is all?
Not yet
Look for APM configuration.
Should see an option about power loss
Restore ac power loss. You want that set to power off
Still in advanced?
This stops the pc from going into boot loops if your power cuts on and off over and over.
Yeah should be in advanced.
Sorry about the typos.
Need to slow down my typing just a bit. I get too squirrelly
Aight
Yeah it's set to power off.
One more thing.
Gotta find the option that controls the way your power button operates. I remember you mentioning that
I done that trough windows but from what you said it dosent turn everything off even than
This will tell the computer what to do when you press the power button on your pc tower.
Cuz normally if you press shut down it goes into sleep mode cuz fast startup
Sleep mode is fickle. It can cause issues too
I've seen too many problems with sleep mode features to where I don't use it.
Its disabled
Enable disable and auto
Currently disabled
Pcie ari enumeration disabled
Should i put that to auto
?
Game mode is enabled too right?
Yes
I guess the power button function is just in windows now. 🤷
Even my bios doesn't have it lol. They keep changing crap
Lemme think for a minute.
Have you set any fan settings before?
Nope
Enable storage?
What kind of hard drives do you have?
Yeah you'll want ssd features on.
Basically the only things i moved from my old pc to the new pc
I think the settings you have there are fine.
Most games are on the hdd
You will eventually want to get an NVMe drive.
Its like 2.3k
Wow...
My gpu costed 1749
Can get NVMe drives here 100-200 bucks.
If you want we can set some fan settings.
Its a 1 to 5 ratio in our to euro/dollar
Otherwise just leave those default and let the system handle it.
I dont even know where fan settings are at
So 500-1000 is what the price should be on those drives.
Probably supply and demand
At the top next to advanced you'll see "Monitor"
Yeah
I see them
NVMe drives are mainly for performance. I have 2 1TB drives in RAID0
If you want more air flow set them to turbo
Yeah you'd only need like a 1TB NVMe drive for installing the OS and games on.
What ever needs to load fast would go on it even a 500GB NVMe would be beneficial.
Ark on its own takes like 500 gigs so yeah
Oh performance mode then.
Unless the fans go too fast and you run into that weird issue with the sound
Ark is insanely big..
Ok performance mode too much
It still sounds like a get engine
Okay well leave it on silent mode.
If you ever run into heating issues you can come back and change those fan settings. I have all my stuff set to manual.
Yeah good to know this
Okay when you go to save and exit it should give you a list of all the changes you made. Be sure to review that list
Ok cpu fan can be on performance
Yeah I'd set that to performance for sure
Looks good. Save and exit. It may cycle power on and off a few times but that's okay.
So ig now hope that the pc functions properly
Should i still do a gpu stresstest with furmark?
Also just to note. You can't break your bios settings. You can always reset CMOS manually and it will reset to factory defaults.
Yeah I would.
Just for your knowledge I'd look up resetting CMOS just so you are familiar with it a bit. It's always good to know these things in case you ever have to do it
Now you should be better educated on how your bios works.
Most of it is still giberish to me
It takes time to learn. Plus they're always adding/taking away/changing stuff.
Do i enable that?
I learned because I broke my mom's computer several times and I had to teach myself how to fix it lol. I was a teenager. So I educated myself on it all. Had my older brother to help me as well.
Ive only ever broken the pc once
I don't know what that is. Motherboard driver installer feature. I mean yeah I'd enable it so that it updates drivers.
Tried to get free terraria from a youtube vide bricked the pc with a virus had to wipe memory completely
Also don't be shy to go onto Asrock's website for support for your motherboard. They'll have drivers there as well.
Yeah you have to be careful. Malicious people out there.
If the worst scenario transpires and it still messes up. You'll have to contact the store you got the parts from and see about warranty replacements for the motherboard.
I hope it's stable now.
Should i also redo the cpu stresstest?
I know stability issues can be fickle. Computer can go a month and be fine and suddenly it starts messing up. Instabilities like to hide
Yeah I'd start with furmark though.
Then do the prime95 for an hour after.
You could also do memory tests but furmark should stress the memory as well.
Maybe just do a burn in test.
This has a free trial. Enough to be able to do the burn in. What a burn in does is it stresses the entire pc at once. Everything to the max for 24 hours.
I honestly would like to buy the passmark suite for myself some day. I don't build pcs yet. When I do get into building/selling computers I will buy that software so I can test every computer I assemble.
ok imma do a quicktest now
my usual way to trigger this crash is by playing nfs heat and watching youtube at the same time usually that triggers it
ah something is wrong why is heat using 100% of my cpu
Heat?
You have game mode on do it won't throttle your cpu down.
It turns off power save features so that your cpu doesn't clock down
ah wont this like kill my cpu?
A lot of VRMs can have issues handling the constant clock changing and can cause instibility.
or shorten its life span
cpu temp 75
If you don't like that you can go back in and turn game mode off.
also gpu is at 75
My main thing is checking for stability.
Gpu temps are good
Cpu temps are good so long as it stays below 85. It should.
With CPU clocks constantly changing it can cause instabilities.
If what we did fix the pc, and it's stable, you can go back in and turn game mode off. That will enable the power save features and will allow the cpu to clock down.
Remember the stock cooler for cpus aren't that great. They're just good enough so that it won't cook.
Crash
😭
It's one of two things. Motherboard or GPU.
Motherboard could have faulty components.
You can but it's going to crash again.
It could be the RAM. set it back to game mode off and do an extensive memory test.
Ive already done that for 8 hours with memtest 64
The ram was set correctly. It shouldn't crash.
Did you test it with the EXPO profile set?
Pretty sure it was with that
Another thing you can do.
Leave bios settings alone and wipe the drive. Do a clean windows install.
Bruh i dont feel like going trough another 3 days of downloading stuff
I know that's annoying but I've done it before several times.
Once everything is exhausted I'd see about warranty out the motherboard 😔
I know... I always hate redoing my drives...
I don't know what else it could be. It has something to do with the graphics.
Could the hard disc itself be a issue cuz i do have a bunch of old files on it
Old files?
Yeah from the previous pc
Some of them yeah even tho i dont remember putting windows on it
SSD should be wiped clean with fresh format and fresh install of windows put on
All you have to do is be sure the SSD was formatted and fresh windows put on it. The 4TB HDD is a secondary drive. The computer won't boot from it or use any files from it unless you install something on it from the fresh OS install.
When you install windows it creates a file system. It will only use what's within that file system. Any other drive added is just extra storage.
I used to save lots of files. I don't anymore. Would be nice to get a 4+ TB HDD just to store things on though.
Hey how are you?
Yoyooy
they are on my hard disc for some reason
so wich one of these 3 is the furmark launcher?
Yeah but windows won't mess with them. Is your SSD set as the default boot drive? Is it drive C:
yes\
How are you doing? Did you get that sausage problem resolved? Lol
Okay then that should be fine. Windows will only use the 4TB drive if you install something on it like a game or application.
All system files like drivers and what have you should all go on the SSD.
Do you use steam?
Since the SSD is only 500GB I'd make sure steam is installed on your 4TB drive so that it will install all your games to the 4TB drive.
it is
Anything you want to have performance on would need to go onto the SSD. Only certain games require SSD performance.
starsector
thats my 1 game that desperately needs the ssd
it takes me 45 minutes to just launch the game on it
1 hour and 30 minutes on the hdd
i am playing with like 300+ mods on it
wich is why it takes so long
btw how do i do a stresstest on furmark?
If it would fit on the SSD I would install it to that drive. Not sure if you can tell steam to move it to the SSD or if you would have to uninsysll/reinstall it to the SSD.
starsector aiant a steam game
Is there a stress test option? You'll want to stress test.
Okay well I'd install it on the SSD unless it's like 300+GB
nah 15 i think
Just hit run then.
I'd have that game installed on the SSD then. HDD are for storage only really. They're near obsolete these days when it comes to performance. A lot of games require SSD performance.
is that hotspot temp normal?
Even Google agrees with me lol. It says to use all the tools I've asked you to use.
Trying to pin point an issue is not easy.
Yeah sadly.
These gpus get insane hot.
Don't let it get to 110. After 110 it will begin to throttle.
Ways you can get the temp down is by undervolting and setting a custom fan curve.
My gpu likes to cook at 90-100c at stock settings. Anything below 110 AMD considers safe.
Did ya crash again?
Not sure on it's error reporting capabilities but the crash will let you know.
This is testing just the GPU. The cpu will be utilized but mainly just the gpu.
There's a lot going on in that fuzzy donut
It's clocked up and any slight utilization will generate heat. That's normal.
ok yeah changing the fan curve helps
After everything is said and done you can turn off game mode and use the power saving features. Since it has already crashed. That tells me that something is definitely not right. Power save features can sometimes cause problems.
This is what my settings are at.
Man this camera pics up that curve like crazy...
The human eye doesn't detect the curve but a cam sure does lol
this is my curve
my 1 suspicion on this now is maybe ram
cuz it did crash during cpu testing
where it was fully testing the ram
Prime95 won't fully test the ram. It uses the ram but not completely.
Problem is everything will use cpu/ram.
Prime95 primarily stressed the CPU but doesn't use ram much hardly. Memtest is what will test the ram.
well i used memtest 64 for 8 hours but it could only test 14512 gigs of ram at once
Maybe we should try OCCT
I read that it can test everything.
Lmao no, I had to throw them away, just a horrible mess 😭
is occt free?
Next time use less heat. You want it to just gently sizzle. Too much heat will scorch the outside and leave the center raw. It's how physics works. Lower heat gives the heat more time to transfer into the center.
I believe it is free.
I haven't used it myself but I keep hearing about it.
i do see a purchase otpion on it
is it normal on furmark for the usage of the gpu to spike around
Testmem5? I'm not sure what that is.. Software I'm unfamiliar with. I always used memtest64.
Lemme see if I can find that app
Witchcraft
Yeah. It's fine.
btw how long should i keep doing this test for?
May be where you're using discord and anything else that tries to load in.
Several hours.
Nah just physics. Witchcraft is evil. We don't use evil to make delicious things.
It is actually kinda odd for the cpu to bounce around now that I'm thinking about it.
But why is it the opposite when making hot dogs?
seems like maybe when i klick off of the app
Is game mode still on?
no
Hot dogs aren't as thick as sausages.
Also hotdogs are already cooked. If the hotdog was raw then same method would apply. Lower heat to cook. Always use low heat to cook with. Only time you crank up the heat is towards the end to get that sear.
Okay that may be it then
seems like when i klick off of furmark it prioritizes other stuff
With game mode off and power features on the clock speeds of the cpu will vary
Ok Gordon Ramsay
i already got it on
I'm not that ugly lol.
I love cooking. I take pride in it.
Okay right click furmark in task manager. And click go to details.
Right click furmark under the details tab and click set priority and then click above normal.
That will tell the computer to prioritize furmark over other things.
Gonna try cooking one of these porkchops tomorrow, got them from the butcher
Those look good
Yum
If you fry then use lower heat. I always like to cover them so that it traps the heat and moisture inside.
🤌
You want it to gently sizzle. Once the center is nearly cooked you can crank the heat up for that sear.
I see, il cook one tomorrow and send you pics after lol
I found Testmem5 aka TM5
https://github.com/CoolCmd/TestMem5?tab=readme-ov-file
Trying to figure out how to download the installation.
Meat is from these dudes 🤌
Found it
Here's the release files for running the program.. I don't know how to use this program but people are all buzzed about it. So after furmark has ran for a while get TM5 going.
imma run furmark for an hour go take my weekly bath and than ig ill do that
I'm glad someone picked up on it where the original dev abandoned it. This is the beauty of open-source software.
Sounds good! Enjoy your relaxing time. I'll be here.
do i just close furmark to end it?
ok imma go take a bath now and turn the ram setting back to its jdec standard see if that fixes it
dont think the gpu is the problem
Well even if it does fix it. It's not right. You don't want to use components that are faulty and unable to perform as it normally should. I'd leave the EXPO on and test the memory that way.
Yeah if you're able to run furmark for hours with no crash then something else is wrong. Run TM5 with EXPO profile after furmark has ran for a couple hours. If we can get it to consistently error when testing we can pin point it.
We're trying to get it to mess up and crash during tests. With EXPO on and the 4G access for GPU on and all the acceleration. Full board wide open. If Prime95, Furmark, and TestMem5 all pass and the crash is just random. Then I'd have to say the motherboard is bad and would warranty that out. I understand your frustration with this. I have been through it myself personally many times. I hate it when a new build starts messing up.
This is also why you always ALWAYS do a 24-72 hour burn in test with every new build. It'd to catch problems right away. That way you don't risk components falling out of the warranty window.
Once it's all said and done and you finally get everything fixed and stable you will be much happier.
i mean i have a way to crash it fast
just no way to monitor wtf is going on
like i need something that can check from a bios lvl place and like somehow report what was going on and what caused it
wtf why is gaming mode still on
despite disabling it
ok nvm it toned itself down
i have a question does my pc making a b r r r r r r r noise help with identifying what could cause the crash
i have crashed it now twice on porpuse and my speakers made that noise
what is tm5
ahm this refuses to close
no matter how many times i press x or ok it keeps reopening itself
didint we already test cpu
ok closed that thing just needed to press it faster
Sorry. Back for now.
The BRRRR sound is an indication of a sudden halt. Cpu and ram can cause that issue. But a GPU konking out can too.
TM5 is Testmem5.
You'll want to run it with admin permissions.
i am right now into tm5 about an hour in with half an hour left no errors
Aight.
ive ran it without admin
I'd run it in admin also to enable that other feature it was talking about. Ugh it's like it just konks out when it feels like it. When it knows you're not watching.
and sometimes while idling or watching anime
altho i only get the noise when i crash it with the game and youtube
also some games take longer to get the crash
while others nearly instantly do so
or well the crash sends the pc into a unresponsive state
while the anime/idling ones restarted the pc
as if it was never on
That's the processor halting and it repeatedly plays the sound in the buffer. Anything can cause that though. It's definitely hardware failure.
i know that noise is similar to my old pc's ram corruption
How long did you run furmark?
just an hour
Gpu can cause sudden halts too
on my old pc when i played specificly palworld sometimes it would crash the pc as well but that would turn it off
and made the same kinda noise
from what i am understanding i am dealing with 2 issues
that lead to the same result
the idle one/watching just anime/youtube restarts the pc as if it was never on
while the one that i can trigger on porpuse puts the pc into a unresponsive state while still being powered
could rendering multiple things at multiple resolution and multiple refresh rates cause that?
After this TestMem5 is finished run the furmark again but for a longer time. 2-3 hours... See if we can get it to crash...
Then need to run Prime95 again... It did crash in Prime95. I wanna see if it will crash in furmark.
Not usually.
Hold on a sec
So the time it just crashes random it just reboots like you hit the reset button?
Then when you crash it in purpose, it becomes unresponsive?
yes
How do you crash it on purpose again?
the fastest way is playing need for speed heat and watching any youtube video
second fastest is palworld
and third place goes to elin where it took around 40 minutes
What if you just play the game with no YouTube?
thats my last resort
imma disconnect the tv and try to do things like that
imma still try to play youtube and play just to be sure but i dont think that will cause issues cuz if the video is going on while i am playing a game that dosent add onto the gpu from what i noticed
I would get issues with my old GPU if I had enhance sync on. Do you have any of that turned on?
not sure
freesync/gsync is on
nope just anti lagg
none of the other things in adrenaline are on
but gsync and freesync are on from my monitor
I'm reading something. So if I don't respond for a bit that's why.
ok
btw furmark wont work too well cuz i cant find its file that actually does the stuff and put it to a higher priority
Have you tried disabling hardware acceleration in your browser and test all of this?
The high priority mode isn't important. I was just showing you a trick.
theres no hardware accel
only graphical acceleration and it still does the restart with it disabled
Yeah graphic accel is the same thing. So still does it... Okay gimme a moment.
Try increasing virtual memory.
You have 32GB of ram yes?
Let windows manage vm
Go to your adrenalin software, performance tab, and then tuning.
done
Is all that default?
Enable power tuning and bump it up to 15% and see if you can get it to crash again
you mean 115% efficiency?
oh power not gpu
so like i go now to try and crash it?
or do i just leave it like that and see if it crashes on its own?
Yes 115%
Try to crash it.
Your gpu is crashing the system I'm almost sure of it.
I'm going back to my original assumption that something isn't right with the gpu and it's power. Lmk how it goes.
I have some more steps to try.
yeah it crashed
i mean i stresstested it and it didint crash from it
my assumption is maybe some kinda interaction between ram gpu and the 2 screens
Gonna try a couple more things. I'm also thinking the same thing you are.
the power tune reset itself btw
Set that power back to 100% if it didn't do it automatically. Then drop your clock frequency by 300MHZ and then undervolt by 150mV and try to crash it.
Yeah because the gpu crashed.
what
When gpu crashes amd auto resets those settings.
Oh go back into performance tuning.
this?
Under GPU tuning. Drop the max frequency by 300mhz and then mV down by 150
Tick advanced control.
theres % no numbers
Did ya get it? There's an advanced control button. If you tick it you'll get real numbers.
ok did it
Aight. Now try to crash it.
After this we're going to unplug your TV and just have your monitor going. You'll play the video like normal but run your game in window mode so you can see both.
I wanna see if we can get it to do it with just the one monitor.
Okay take the voltage offset to 100mV instead.
oh adrenaline craashed too
Yeah that was too low on the voltage offset. 100 should be fine. Drop frequency by 300. I wanna see if it using less power will stabilize it.
ok done
same crash
dosent seem to like being undervolted and under efficiencied
at least not with this advanced version
Hmm. Maybe try dropping by 50mV
Dropping it by a % or with the advanced does the same thing. Advanced just gives you actual numbers.
I'm wanting to get it to run where the gpu isn't using as much power.
We'll try just one monitor. Also try running your TV off the integrated graphics and your monitor off your GPU.. Another thing to try is disabling the onboard graphics entirely.
i just had a sudden restart
btw how do i run the browser off of the integrated graphics
There should be an HDMI port on the back of your bother board.
You'll plug it in and set it up to use it.
I'm pretty sure you can do that..
We could skip that step though and just disable onboard graphics and seeing how that works.
It may be conflicting.
it did not crash
and i did a full race
ok lemme do another race to make sure it dosent crash
ok it does not crash
just did the second race
also from my notice my gpu was not being maxed out
normally even when i had it set to 99% and 95% on volting it would still max out the gpu
so it dosent like being maxed out?
huh voltage was 1% higher
but efficiency at 89
1150 volt and 2334 frequency
That was with YouTube going?
yes
What exact gpu do you have? Like make and model.
xfx radeon rx 6750 xt
Ahh. I have an xfx also 🙂
Just xfx radeon rx 6750xt? Not the Speedster? QUIK or SWFT model?
no clue
ill check that tomorrow ig whats on the box
if we still have it
cuz other than that i have no idea how to check
I'm wondering because I'm curious if there are any factory over clocks.
There should be a switch on the GPU. If it does have an OC. It's a bios switch for the gpu.
i know that i bought it at the same price as my cpu
wut
You could also look on the gpu it's self. It may be written on there. How many fans it has. Etc..
I'm srill also wondering if the onboard graphics isn't causing it problems.
When you first clicked advanced. What was the max frequency set at? By default?
2634
-300 2334
btw it can go higher
higher than that
like 110%
wich id assume to be maybe 2934?
here
I think I know what's wrong.. Lemme do a bit more research.
Pretty sure I know.
Yep... How many fans does it have?
3
Okay you have an xfx Speedster 6750XT MERC319
That comes with a factory over clock. Their overclock isn't stable.
so thats what has been doing it?
apparently as well this thing can reach 230 wats but ive never seen it go above 190
One moment
as far as its looks go dosent look like it
Yeah. It's clocked too high in adrenalin. None of their cards goes up to 2634
like the backside is nothing like it
Their fastest is like 3623 or so.
It will I my get to 230 under certain work loads.
Okay let's do this. Set your max clock speed to 3600 and leave it.
but before hand i did put it to 1% less efficiency but that only worked for a while
you mean vram tuning?
also theres no 3600
2950 is the max
the voltage wasant bad now tho?
So testing. If you get a crash. Bump it up to 1130. If it crashes try 1140.
No it's clocked too high. They gave you an unstable card.
There's 2 bios too. You could use the reference bios but no need when you can set it yourself.
This is the clock speeds on a reference card. One AMD makes.
Actually. Set it to 2550MHZ sorry.
This is what xfx has it set at... But looking at the default in adrenalin it was set higher than this by default. Which I don't know why that is but that's 100% why you are crashing.
Okay set to 2550MHZ and set to 1120mV
Trust me. It's clocked too high. The voltage is just what provides stability.
You can set it to 1150. Sure. I'm just trying to find a stable undervolt so that your card will also run cooler.
Mine runs at 2500MHZ @ 1120
ok set it to 1120 again
If you want to you can set it at that and see.
If you ever get a crash. Reset it to either 2500mhz or 2550mhz, but take the mV up by 10. So instead of 1120 you would do 1130. If it crashes then 1140... You keep going till you find stability. Your clock speeds are definitely set way too high by default though.
Xfx kinda fudged up on your card for some reason.
Kinda blah that they shipped a card with an unstable overclock on it.
ok yeah no 1120 dosent like
i mean its romania
i am surprised they didint ship me a brick instead of a gpu
with circles drawn on em
ok wow it even crashed steam
Aight. Set to 2550Mhz at 1130. If you don't mind losing 50 mhz set it to 2500mhz for more stability. Like I said my card is set to 2500MHZ at 1120mV
A 6750XT is basically AMD's over locked 6700XT
ok it dosent crash
Then XFX goes and over clocks it even more and what do you get? CRASH!
Aight. Now keep in mind this probably isn't stable and could crash later down the road. If so you can go to 1140mV or even 1150mV.
You can also try 2500MHZ on the gpu clocks.
altho at first i did notice that some things took a bit longer to load
You basically have a factory over locked 6700XT
so the overclocking is what was causing these issues all this time?
Loading is more your hard drive than GPU. It has to load everything into memory.
Yep
wait by that idea does that mean that the sudden restarts also happened cuz of that even tho i wasant doing alot
Like I said 6750XT is AMD's overclock 6700XT. Then XFX goes and over clocks the 6750 even further.
Yes
A GPU crashing can act like a CPU or RAM crash. Even like the motherboard.
Coukd have avoided all this testing had I realized it was an OC xfx card
But at least you know that ram and cpu are good now.
Makes sense why when you undervolted it got more stable. Blah. Oh well at least we know what's going on now.
Tbh I would say forget AMD's overclock and XFX overclock and just set it to 2500MHZ at 1120-1150.
I can take my card up to 2600MHZ at 1150 and it be stable but I get a lot more heat and I just don't care about a 2-4% gain.
it dosent have any issues now at least
ok is there a way to save this as a setup?
so i can quickly switch to it if it resets itself
Yes. At the top right where you click Apply settings. You'll see export and import. Click export and save the settings. Name it what ever you like.
ok done
Also you may want to try the fan curve I have so your fans don't roar.
what is your fancurve again
You could change the last one. 100° to like 85% or 90% if you want but it's not necessary. You'll generate an awful amount of noise and wear it fans faster. I need new fans on mine because I used to run 90%
Under stress test my card sits at about 85°
eh i dont mind if it makes noise
id rather have it cool down the gpu if it gets hot
Now then... You'll want to go back into Bios and set the EXPO profile back. Not having that set will degrade your performance quite a bit.
Aight. Yeah with this fan curve it should only just kiss 90° sometimes.
oh i already did
Aight cool. 😊
i noticed it crashed even on the base setup so i was like ok time to set up the max speed for the ram
I originally thought your card wasn't getting enough power. Which I was right but didn't realize it was overclocked like that from the factory.
It as set higher than what their website even says it should be...
Even at 2500 you'd still be overclocked a bit. I think.
I'm just glad we have it figured out now and you don't have to warranty anything. Now you can finally start to enjoy your computer properly.
yep
Run a furmark stress test for a while.
i would have never guessed this was the problem
See where your temps are and make sure no adjustments need to be made.
Yeah.. Who would?
if i do furmark ill probably ramp the fans to the max
I saw your original default max setting and then looked at what it's supposed to be according to xfx and realize what was wrong.
Yeah you want to see where your temp lands under full load after about 20-30 minutes.
It's desired to keep your temp below 90 if you can. So long as you're below 100 you'll be good. The max is 110.
in the previous test it was maxing out at around 62 celsius on the core and i think it was 55 on the edges?
The gpu hot spot?
yes
Oh I thought you said it had gone to like 90°
altho that was with the fans ramped up to the max
Yeah. That's why then
if i left it to the pc's auto fan rampup it was already at 80
on the hotspot
and was climbing
I top my fans at 75%
If it climbs to 95 it's still okay.
as for now i have no idea on how to setup the fan curve
Well AMD's software handles the gpu fan. I always set custom fan curves. Always...
i want something that wont make the most noise but if things start getting heated like idk over 70 celsius i want the fans to start cooling that stuff down
My cpu fan doesn't turn on until it reaches 70° and to shut off at 60°
i feel safe ish with it being around 50-65
80-95 is a good temp target.
beyond that i start panicking
yeah but dosent higher temps lower lifespan
dont think i am replacing this pc in the next 20-30 years so i want this running as long as possible
I've ran my card at 100° for years. I was pushing it. I just recently decided to take it down a notch to get it 85-95
AMD says anything below 110 is considered safe. However I don't like it going above 100. Even in the 90s I don't like it even though it's safe.
me neither if i can feel scorching air coming outa the back i dont trust it
If you can keep it below 90 then awesome. The fan noise will drive you nuts if you turn them up past 75%
Even at 75% they're loud.
It'll heat your room up. Get used to it 🤷🤣
My room gets scorching hot after gaming.
i bought 6 arctic p12 maxes so i can cool the room not make it hotter
What's the temperature inside your home?
Those are the fans I have. They push some air. They're top line fans
no idea but i think it maybe gets around 30 and over depending on the gas stuff going and if its summer or not
all i know is that my room when it gets hot even the air is heavy
my mom and aunt say that my room feels airless
I have 3 of these.
This is my rear exhaust fan. It's super high pressure and really moves the air.
What matters most is the pressure.
You want high pressure fans because it will be able to force air better.
i think that stat was like 55? maybe
for fans i asked bread for stuff that cools stuff down alot didint matter how much noise they made or if they had rgb's
and also were somewhat budget friendly
He knows his stuff if he recommended Arctic
cuz imma be onest i barely understand the statistics of the base component
like gpus and cpu's
motherboards sound like black magic
Phanteks is another top brand. Their fans a more costly and push more air at higher pressure but they tend to get louder.
oh btw
The blades are hard. Harder blades don't flex much so they force air through. Especially if there's mesh filters on your case.
does amd's mike thing stack with obs? the noise filtering
Also make sure your case has plenty of breathing room under your desk.
Don't set it directly on the floor either.
back top and front are meshes
it has a special place in the furniture i shown
you know where i had my water bottle
AMD'S noise suppression?
under that is the pc
yeah
Any fans that are exhaust fans don't need mesh covers.
I'm not sure. As far as I know it just runs all the time as a service.
mainly asking cuz with obs i can get pretty good noise supression on the mike but there are still some sounds i dont want it to pick up
like the watertap
or when my mom and aunt talk loudly in the kitchen
cuz as far as i can tell theres like no range limits on sounds it picks up
I honestly am not sure about any of the streaming business. I don't have the means to really stream and I was always very anti-social. I'm not even sure how noise suppression works.
Discord has something built into it called crisp
and since i cant separate mike audio from computer audio cutting stuff out sucks
I'm really not sure. You'll have to look into it. I have OBS setup at one point but didn't do anything with it. I should try content creation but I'm not setup for it. My internet situation is really lame. I need to find work so I can afford basic things. It's frustrating.
Wait you can't seperate mic audio from computer audio? What do you mean?
obs kinda sets itself up nowdays
me talking and game sounds get recorded on the same lane
Yeah there's a way to set it up so none of that comes through.
and as far as i am aware theres no way to separate those
can i do that trough the same 1 video file?
I'm not sure how streamers do it. I'm not the one to talk to about streaming bud lol. I'm just an old tech head. I like to solve problems and do coding.
cuz there was some complex thing where it cut up the video into 2 version where one had a louder mike noise and the other louder game noise but that stuff was too complex and didint really work
You may have to get some hardware for it. I don't know. Is there a streamer section in this discord server?
dont think so
I'd have to get a setup myself and play with settings. Google is a good way to learn things. I ask it's AI stuff all the time.
i have the opposite reaction
googles been useless for me for a year or 2 now
and even with typing reddit at the end of things is stopping to function
I've used Google for years. Then again I'm just a gamer mostly.
It's always worked for me.
Do you have it's AI turned on?
i miss the early days back from 2010-2015 where you typed in a vague description of what your looking for and google was like here you mean this specific thing?
its on by default i am pretty sure
no i just type in what i am looking for and i type reddit at the end
Yeah that should work.
This is what I get when I type reddit at the end
how to separate mic audio from video OBS reddit
This is what I typed in search
I seldomly use reddit. Depends really. Reddit frustrates me more than anything else. Lol lot of salty trolls on there.
i just use it cuz that seems to work
yeah thats the stuff that dosent really work
i just watched the video
it basically makes 2 of the same video but with upped sounds for either mike or game but it dosent really function
Hmm. I dunno then. I don't really know anyone who streams.
I should probably get to know some streamers. Maybe Asmon will talk to me 😂
What all games you been playing lately.
Also, not sure the financial situation, none of my business, but I'd save and look into a nice NVMe drive like a Western Digital Black. It will make a WORLD of difference. I'm shocked that they cost that much there.
They're usually 100-200 bucks. Like a 1TB I think would go for just over 100.
This is the one I have except I have the 1TB version.
1TB version is $90
Just some future upgrades to look at 🙂
cant afford it this pc is basically my next 6 years worth of future birthday/christmas presents
i make no money myself so anything i get bought is by the mercy of my mom and aunt
elin and borderlands
ive also been recording them
but had a sleeping issue for the past 2 weeks so ive been stopping with the playing
right now i am mainly just watching anime and specificly looking up yandere based anime
i am effectively researching yanderes
also stopped playing as well cuz crashing cuz when i was recording my first video of elin and making my character the pc did the unresponsive crash and when i started back up while the video did get save it did have some issues
Dang... I can only imagine how stressed you've been over that PC messing up... Man I'm glad we could get it figured out. It'll probably take a little more tweaking to get it 100% stable but it will get there.
I'm broke myself so I know how it is. I got no hope in sight right now. Just kinda playing along with time.
Your mom and aunt sure are awesome for hooking you up with that pc.
If I run across any deals on components I'll keep you in mind. Right now I'm just a sitting potatoe growing sprouts.
nah dont bother dont become like bread looking for pc parts every day remaking his build list
yeah i am surprised that we had that kinda cash and that they were even willing to spend it on a new pc when my old pc broke down cuz of its ram corrupting i was surprised that my aunt was like lets buy a new pc
also i just had a sudden restart what should i change around
it was 2500 efficiency and 1150 volts
I'm always looking at stuff lol. I'll be upgrading my stuff in a few years. I have parts but not sure what all I got. I know it's not as good as your setup.
I'd set it to 2500 and 1130.
1150 would be more stable but you wanna keep temps down also.
i had it on 1150 and it still did the restart
Well your aunt is awesome for that. Them hooking you up is a kind thing to do. Especially with the parts that you got. That PC is very nice. Like I said it's better than my rig.
Oh. Hmmm at 2500 1150?
yes
Try 2500 1180
If it crashes again try 2500 1200.
May even have to go to 2450 but I hope not. Be nice to get it stable at 2500.
cuz imma start preparing for sleep
Sounds good. I'll be up all night as usual.
seems like my sleep time has went up again
oh yeah btw do you know what might cause me problems with youtube
cuz if i watch youtube on fullscreen on my tv it skips frames oftenly and has delays in the video and like freezes up the video but sound is still going and than makes it suddenly go at like 10 times speed but sound is still the same speed
Hmmm... That sounds like a buffering issue maybe?
is there a way to like fix buffering?
We still need to try disabling that onboard graphics tomorrow. See if that helps at all.
I'll have to think on it and look into it. Can't think of anything off the top of my head right now.
anime also has buffering issues but imma assume thats due to people using those sites
Almost seems like it's getting hung up in processing somewhere somehow.
Oh you mean like internet buffer?
also those arent that bad
for anime its probably internet
for youtube idk whats going on there
I wasn't talking about internet buffer. I'm talking about how the computer handles the information.
Ah okay
cuz with anime it just stops to load the stuff
and is not very goot at doing that fast enough
Is the graphic acceleration turned back on?
and also using other anime sites with different server brokers seems to fix the problem
Yeah for anime sounds like a server side issue. Not sure on the YouTube.
I'll look into it later to see if there's any information on it.
Also need to go through your settings on your computer. Do you know the refresh rate of your monitor? I imagine the TV is 60hz.
yes monitor is 165
the tv is 16by10 and monitor 16by9
the monitor i think is made by a brand named tesla
no not the elon guy
its a ips monitor
What do you mean 16 by 10. Inches?
I'm just curious about resolutions and refresh rates.
if i remember correctly 1920by1200 makes it 16by10
and my monitor does 1920by1080
and its 16by10 cuz at 1920by1080 its not fully covering the screen
like it has side black bars
as in the tv
this gpu might be good but i dont think i could run 1440p with it
yes
I run 1440p ultrawide with my 6700xt
yeah but for games that would probably lagg me alot more
ive noticed this cuz i had a 1650by1080 monitor before but even a slight increase requires way more vram
3440x1440. It's 21:9
So if it can run 3.5k 1440p it can do yours no problem.
It shouldn't. Should run just fine.
I play no man's sky with FSR quality at 3440x1440 ultra settings. 75-90 fps.
No I'm not.
I'm using upscaling. Upscaling improves image quality. It's a form of AA.
isint fsr frame gen like amd's version of whats that thing that nvidia made for the rtx cards?
I only use it if the game has the option.
No. It's Fidelity Super Resolution.
It works like TRS, XESS, and DLSS. Frame generation is a seperate function. I don't like frame Gen. It produces bad input delay.
yeah dlss
I can run 50-60 fps with it turned to native instead of quality. It improves graphics quite a bit. You should use it if the game offers it. I don't ever turn it on in the adrenalin software. Just in the games
ig ill try but ill probably turn it off if i see it do weird things
I most games I can get 50+ FPS. I can get it even higher with FSR. Just depends on how it performs.
i think i generally get around 100-200 fps in games
Just don't set it in adrenalin. Only use it if the game has the option in settings.
nfs heat this far being the heaviest game i have
Also you don't want your frame rate to exceed your monitor's refresh rate.
i really dont understand how a racing game is using up more cpu than something like idk factorio or starsector
You have Factorio? I love that game.
yeah ik it needlessly puts a burden on the cpu
It just depends on how the devs coded it.
yeah but dont got its dlc
i mean gpu
I already have it.
first thing i did when i got this pc was install everything on it open every game and disable vsync
You still need to set a frame limit.
than later i realized yeah no i should re enable it cuz its needlessly overusing the gpu
Frame limit, enhance sync, and freesync if your monitor is capable.
it is bouth freesync and gsync
If you go above your monitor's refresh rate it's gonna look like crap and become choppy with horrible screen tear.
not really geometry dash can run at 3600 frames/second
and it had no screen tearing or got choppy
It's one or the other. Gsync won't work on an AMD card. It's proprietary to NVIDIA. Freesync will work on an NVIDIA card because amd is cool like that.
wasant at some point amd software better on nvidia cards
Yeah but there's no point in going above refresh rate. Your monitor can only display so many images per second.
yeah and was maxing out the gpu
Like if your monitor's refresh rate is 165. You don't want to go above 165fps.
That too
normally geometry dash takes like 20% gpu at most
Turn off vsync because it can cause microstutters. Use enhanced sync and freesync together.
if i turn off vsync it uncaps the fps
this?
yeah i set it
even sent a pic of it
I have mine capped to my refresh rate. It'll never go above 144 with vsync off.
Oh I see now haha.
Basically it's dynamic resolution.
It adjusts resolution according to demand and screen action.
i did notice that in my 2 most recent borderlands sessions that i was getting some like micro lagg
quiet often
Like if you're moving the screen fast it will adjust resolution for a split moment to give performance.
Yeah input lag. I don't use it.
id rather not have that sounds like it would freak out on me constantly
not sure if it was input lagg it was more like the game froze for like miliseconds
like i was moving forwards but things on the screen werent changing instantly
even tho i was in a walking animation
easiest to notice in the edges of the screen
Bad syncing.
Could also be because of the card's stability problems.
Once you get it stable it'll probably smoothen out better.
I only use anti-lag, enhance sync, and fidelity image sharpening.
I have freesync turned on. You have to set it on in your monitor's settings and also under display in adrenalin. The VRR, variable refresh rate.
already done that in the monitors setting
We'll tinker with these settings over time. Get it to sync better.
Is it turned on in adrenalin?
probably not
Has to be turned on in both.
where exactly is it?
Beside the graphics tab you'll see display. The option is in there. At the top.
?
i typed in freesync in the search bar and it was the enhanced sync that showed up
ok its in the home tab
oh wait no in the settings
this?
ok i enabled that
Yeah adaptive sync.
There's enhanced sync on the games settings tab where you set image sharpen and the frame cap. Then that adaptive sync under display.
Also leave VSR off.
I see your monitor has 10 bpc. That's a pretty good monitor.
Curious if it has HDR.
yes
That GPU 1 and GPU 2. what's it say for GPU 2?
Ahh okay. So that's not onboard.
We'll go through some settings tomorrow. There's things you have to set to get windows to properly use higher refresh rates.
btw yesterday new problem happened right before i went to sleep the pc permanently froze
Try 2500 @ 1200 and see if it stays stable.
May end up having to warranty the card.
why is it broken?
It possibly could be. Like I said at 2500 1200 it should be 100% stable.
at 1180 it froze permanently
The fact that it didn't want to work at first, worked fine for 30 days and then suddenly it starts messing up all the time. I don't suspect the motherboard. The GPU possibly has a defect.
oh no this issue happened fast
but then i messed around with the efficiency and volting and that seemed to fix it
than it became a problem again
tried to play palworld and watching youtube at the same time and i tought the ram again? cuz my previous pc corrupted its ram as i was watching youtube and playing palworld
and than we went trough bios stuff only to realize that didint change much
Yeah I think everything else is fine. The GPU seems to maybe have a problematic spot. Like a poor connection within the board creating a hot spot which over time will progressively get worse. You definitely want to contact that store about a warranty. You may lose your warranty window by waiting too long.
Do some testing at 2500 and 1200 and see if it crashes. You shouldn't have to go any lower than 2500 on the clock speeds because that's an acceptable frequency for these cards.
so maybe we didint put it in right?
altho it does function wich is weird
the first 3 times we put it in we didint do it right and it didint work at all
also you sure its a heat problem at least the thermal monitoring from adrenalin says that its pretty cool
i played nfs heat for 2 hours while also watching some video and well i did have to adjust the fan curve but after that it didint go above 70 on the hotspot
It sounds like something in the circuitry maybe.
The GPU isn't overheating. I'm talking about potential hot spots in other areas. You could try reseating it again but if it was a seating issue I wouldn't think it would come on at all. Try reseating it and then we'll try some other things.
See if it's stable at 2500 1200mV.
You may have to go down to 2450.
for that it will probably take multiple days
so if its stable at 2500 and 1200 than its not broken?
Maybe not. There's something we call the silicone lottory. Sometimes you get a board that you can over clock, sometimes you get one that you have to underclock a bit. Either way you shouldn't have to underclock it at all. My concern is if you can get it stable, how is it going to behave months down the road or even a year from now? After the warranty has expired. XFX may have a warranty too but typically you try to go through the store you bought it from first.
so i got a bad draw on the silicon lottery?
There's been plenty of folks who can't overclock or undervolt it in the slightest or it will mess up.
i hope i dont have to give them the box back in pristine condition
cuz i do remember when we opened up the gpu's box we did damage it a bit
Not usually.
not even sure if we still have the gpu box
If you even need the box. I'm not sure what their policy is. XFX would warranty it as well.
btw its not a speedster
its a normal rx6750 xt from xfx
or well the box at least is amd
dont see if xfx is on the box
oh wait no it is
small text
I wonder if they would do the RMA where they send you a new one and then you send the old one back. The way that works is if the customer doesn't send the old one back, they will charge you for another card.
Small text? It should have it writing in big bold letters on the box.
Maybe different packaging.
if you can hop in a call i can show you the box
Could also be a referbish.
Oh no.. That's most likely the problem...
You need 2 seperate cables going to the gpu.
It looks like 4 but the other 2 are the piggy back ends of the cables.
you see the cable we plugged in it has 2 8 piece things on 1 end and 1 on the other but bouth ends on the 2 end split into 6 and 2
No. They just need to have proper plug ins. PCIE and CPU cable plugs look different so you don't accidently plug them into the wrong thing.
Yeah that's normal. There's 8 and 6 pin power connectors.
Is your PSU modular?
dont think so
The power supply should have came with more than enough cables.
id have to ask bread about that
So all the cables are hanging out the back of the PSU? They don't plug into the back of the PSU?
i think so i am not sure
Modular means you can plug and unplug cables in the PSU.
oh yeah we can
There should be 2 seperate cables coming from the power supply to your GPU.
btw this is my gpu
ok ig we need to unplug this singular dual ended cable than and plug in these 2 separate cables
altho i am uncertain if the psu has 2 cable slots for the gpu
See I have 2 cables.
apparently this is the specs of this gpu
Yeah cables, for some idiotic reason, has one plug in and then what's called a piggy back, which allows you to connect two different cards with one cable.
my mom was wondering why we had 3 cables for it
also just to make sure do the other 2 cables have the pcie stuff written on it
Yeah it should never have been clocked higher than 2600... That's boost clock which means it will boost up to that speed.
It should.
ok than those are gpu cables
It doesn't matter if it's written on it really. The plugs will have a special shaped pattern on it so that it will only plug into a PCIE device.
The CPU has a cable that looks identical to the PCIE cable at glance. But if you look at the ends you'll notice each pin has a special shape to it. So people don't get them plugged into the wrong things and fry the circuits.
the 2 other cables have the same shape
and one of them says cpu on it
the other says pcie
bout are shaped like shields
one of them has a missing piece at the end
one of the 2 cables has a missing part at the end
on the 8 thingies
the other dosent have a missing part at one end
You could be suffering from what's known as voltage drop, if it's too strong of a draw it can drop the voltage reference and make things unstable.
I'm not sure what PSU you have but it probably only has one rail, so I'm not even 100% sure if it will make a difference or if that's even the reason why it's unstable.