#Idle power usage

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vale solstice
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Is this for me and you, or you and kirboi?

brittle pivot
vale solstice
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Idle power usage

brittle pivot
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You've helped me before.

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Sooo, I found out what's the cause of it.

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I do not know how to explain it, but I'll do my best.

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It did not get fixed btw

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So in AMD Adrenalin acts like VRAM Clock Speed is at 0, but power usage & temps are elevated. Which does not seem right, so I went and opened hwinfo64 and here I found that:

Elevated memory wattage while idle + the VRAM clock speed is stucked completely, and it's not even moving - like it's gray.

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Also another issue is that, my GPU is rated for VRAM clock speed about 1750mhz, it goes above that - as you can see it went up to 2,208MHz - but I have never overclocked my GPU.

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These all connect together so perfect, that I just now need help from experienced staff.

brittle pivot
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but after a few minutes it's back, I tried differnent ports, differnent cables, using stock display settings.

vale solstice
vale solstice
brittle pivot
vale solstice
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Also, while I am "staff" on this server, I am not an AMD employee. Only red-names with "AMD" in the name are employees, the rest of us are volunteers.

brittle pivot
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it's not moving

vale solstice
brittle pivot
brittle pivot
vale solstice
brittle pivot
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Can we hop in call?

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I could show you.

vale solstice
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Not at the moment, still nibbling brekkie, then I need to do some chores around the house

brittle pivot
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Ahh ic.

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Anyway so if I started playing / or streaming on Discord it should change the VRAM clock speed value right?

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because if yes, then sadly no

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No matter what I do it no longer updates, and wattage stays like that forever

vale solstice
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Yes. Activating the encoder should bring the memory speed up to probably half of its max speed (if the PC is at complete idle the rest of the time)

brittle pivot
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All softwares show like memory is dead

vale solstice
brittle pivot
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Should I try MSI afterburner and see?

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And it all goes to normal as soon as I disable/enable freesync - turn off/on monitor

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That's so weird, right?

vale solstice
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Nah, I wouldn't no

vale solstice
brittle pivot
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24.5.1 started doing the same.

vale solstice
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Also, don't change drivers from whichever one you're on, I'll see if anyone can repro it.

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So 24.4.1 and earlier work normally, and 24.5.1 is where things went wonky?

brittle pivot
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I do have MPO disabled also.

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Might that be also the cause?

vale solstice
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And this is an... RX 7600 you said?

brittle pivot
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By the way, make them try streaming / watching stream on Discord if it bugs like that.

vale solstice
brittle pivot
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I do know that I was running MPO disabled since 24.5.1

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I hope it aint that 💀

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I will be SO SO SORRY for wasting time of y'all.

vale solstice
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Go enable MPO (nuke the registry key that disables it), restart, and see what's up

brittle pivot
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Yeah, just wanted to say that.

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I'll let you know in a few.

vale solstice
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And no worries. My friend, I have caused MUCH stupider issues by my own hand, you are fine if this is all it is <3

brittle pivot
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Thank you so much, give me a moment.

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So also I should not be worried about memory clock going up sometimes to above the rated value right?

I never overclock my stuff, I am worried.

vale solstice
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I think

brittle pivot
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My friends with same GPU never go above 🤷 but I will see.

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Rebooting my PC, just deleted the entry.

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Aight, I am gonna try and reproduce it.

vale solstice
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No rush

brittle pivot
brittle pivot
# vale solstice No rush

Seems fine now, I'll keep streaming for another like 3-4 hours... I'll tell you before I go sleep if it happend or no.

brittle pivot
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Sadly @vale solstice still happening.

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Also noticed one thing, when it does that it kinda bugs freesync completely - when I go inside Settings > Display and I disable Freesync while this happend it'll like completely lag for 2-3 seconds.

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Seems like Freesync just stucks.

brittle pivot
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I can not seem to replicate it, it's so random.

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I am trying to find the root cause.

brittle pivot
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Always when it happens and I try disabling freesync it like completely lags out the display.

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Does it matter if I reinstalled the drivers while MPO was off?

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On the video I am just going to send you'll see exactly what I mean

brittle pivot
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Grey values in sensors window mean HWiNFO is unable to read a valid value from the sensor.

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Which means, I somehow crash it 🤷

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I will try to confirm it's caused by Freesync itself by disabling freesync and running 120Hz

brittle pivot
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@vale solstice Good and bad news, good thing is that I seem to have replicated it and the bad thing is that it's probably just caused by Freesync + with Discord stream enabled.

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I tried differnent refresh rates, all did the same.

vale solstice
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Okay, thanks for sleuthing that out. Do you mind submitting another bug report and mention that it is a follow up to your earlier one

brittle pivot
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I'll do it soon tho, rn testing if disabling freesync for Discord itself fixes it

vale solstice
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Thanks!

brittle pivot
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Id have to try gaming and doing stuff without Discord on to confirm

brittle pivot
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I can play games no issues while calling on Discord, but as soon as I start watching stream or streaming it goes down.

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Isn't it also strange that my other friends don't have such issues?

brittle pivot
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@vale solstice I have just sent out the Bug Report, I am going to try 24.4.1 right now and see if it fixes, if not then it must be a Discord issue but hopefully you guys will manage to fix it.

vale solstice
brittle pivot
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Isnt it odd that my friends with basically same setup have no such issues?

brittle pivot
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You can close that thread. Sorry for wasting ur time.

vale solstice
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No time wasted at all, you're good!

brittle pivot
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I got no idea what to do, it was never happening to me before - and my gpu jsut keeps working with no issues except that.

vale solstice
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So, to recap, the GPU power usage is sticking at 15W instead of like 8W at idle, correct?

brittle pivot
vale solstice
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Ah right the VRAM sensor. So even when you go play a game after it gets stuck, both Adrenalin and HWINFO64 still show 0 for the VRAM clock?

brittle pivot
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Even when I go stream on Discord right now, it's still unable to read.

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Until I refresh the driver.

vale solstice
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Oh right it goes blank in HWINFO64

brittle pivot
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Yup.

vale solstice
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You putting in the bug report should give AMD everything they need.

brittle pivot
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I mean it must be something else, if even 24.4.1 is doing it.

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No matter what I do it just bugs out anyway, sometimes in a longer time sometimes not. My system does not crash or anything like that, a way to fix it is turn off and back on the display or reenable Freesync or just like refresh the driver.

I bet you've seen the video I sent, the lag while Freesync is being disabled but as soon as its refreshed and back to normal it is no longer lagging while disabling Freesync.

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I've stress tested and tested all my components, everything seems fine.

brittle pivot
vale solstice
brittle pivot
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Can I somehow add to the report i made?

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Cause I stated it's Discord

vale solstice
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Nah, but send another one, it's fine :3

brittle pivot
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Aight :3

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I'll try doing Windows Update, update all my drivers and also see.

brittle pivot
vale solstice
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It's almost certainly a bug in the drivers, looking at your symptoms

brittle pivot
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Can like latest drivers break it for even previous ones?

vale solstice
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That shouldn't be how it works, no. The drivers are supposed to be reading the sensors on the GPU.

brittle pivot
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I have always used AMD Cleanup Utility before installing old ones.

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24.1.1, 24.4.1, 24.5.1, 24.7.1 - all same issue now

vale solstice
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The drivers are also partly responsible for how Windows itself accesses and reads those sensors, too. If you've ever had HWINFO64 pop up when you're between driver installs (when there's no driver installed at all), about 2/3 of the total GPU sensors will be missing.

brittle pivot
vale solstice
brittle pivot
vale solstice
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Probably not

brittle pivot
brittle pivot
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I do not really understand why is it even now in the old versions of drivers.

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I tried running even 23.12.1 where I NEVER had this issue and it's still doing it.

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I guess you can close this thread.

brittle pivot
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It would be funny if it was my cable the whole time

brittle pivot
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Just found that, it's basically the similar issue.

brittle pivot
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@vale solstice Aight, close this. It is no longer needed, I have confirmed by myself that it is caused by Freesync itself, once it happens all you gotta do is like refresh freesync and it'll become normal again.