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brisk plaza Sep 25, 2024, 5:49 PM

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I've been playing a bit of highlander. It's def significantly weaker than either the surf or orb builds. That being said, in a post patch world that is less reliant on scamming the opponent, this might be a viable approach. I did some pretty disgusting late game stuff with orb and fizzle. Mesadune with sleet skater is also really good stall. I played against a painlock where I kept freezing their 8/8s with skaters and blizzards. And then Reno ends it

jolly kettle Sep 25, 2024, 6:18 PM

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Yeah... It's... Possible... I just doubt it will be good. There's way too much that can just destroy you purely off board.

brisk plaza Sep 25, 2024, 6:18 PM

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Yeah I don't imagine it will be anything close to tier 1.

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Unless you get pretty insanely favorable draws you fold to DH. The late game potential is pretty high though

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So....ehhh

brisk plaza Sep 25, 2024, 7:03 PM

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This is what I've been running. I cut some more dubious cards from the more popular lists and went a bit more defensive with cards like heat wave and rising waves.

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woven isleBOT Sep 25, 2024, 7:03 PM

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### Highlander Mage
# Cost: 13980
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 1x (1) Arcane Artificer
# ⬜ 1x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 1x (2) Audio Splitter
# ⬜ 1x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 1x (2) Greedy Partner
# 🟦 1x (2) Heat Wave
# ⬜ 1x (2) Oh, Manager!
# 🟪 1x (2) Primordial Glyph
# 🟦 1x (3) Metal Detector
# 🟨 1x (3) Photographer Fizzle
# 🟦 1x (3) Rising Waves
# 🟦 1x (3) Robocaller
# ⬜ 1x (3) Sea Shill
# 🟪 1x (3) Watercolor Artist
# 🟦 1x (4) Conniving Conman
# 🟨 1x (4) E.T.C., Band Manager
# 🟦   1x (5) Star Power
# 🟪   1x (10) Tsunami
# 🟦   1x (4) Conniving Conman
# 🟨 1x (4) King Tide
# 🟪 1x (4) Volume Up
# 🟨 1x (5) Portalmancer Skyla
# 🟦 1x (5) Sleet Skater
# 🟦 1x (5) Star Power
# 🟦 1x (6) Blizzard
# 🟨 1x (6) Puzzlemaster Khadgar
# 🟨 1x (7) Marin the Manager
# 🟨 1x (8) Kalecgos
# ⬜ 1x (9) Sunset Volley
# 🟨 1x (9) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (4) Twin Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (10) Reno, Lone Ranger
# 🟨 1x (10) The Galactic Projection Orb
# 🟪 1x (10) Tsunami
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/14929003

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/14929003

Highlander Mage Standard Deck

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brisk plaza Sep 25, 2024, 7:04 PM

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We'll see if this is relevant tomorrow lol

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Hand size can be an issue so audio splitter can be audio amplifier

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(It really should be tbh. You dont want to clog your hand with this deck)

jolly kettle Sep 25, 2024, 7:25 PM

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The list I posted earlier broke my terrible luck streak so I was able to get back to 170 or so.

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The mixologists are quite good at anti aggro

brisk plaza Sep 25, 2024, 7:27 PM

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Nice! I should create a spot for that card in this one. I had my eye on it

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I don't love volume up so thats prob the cut

raven hornet Sep 25, 2024, 8:51 PM

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Well the orb list will at least see less mirrors

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So that’s a benefit especially if surf version goes away

jolly kettle Sep 25, 2024, 8:57 PM

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Just hope that insanity lock doesn't spike.

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Because God I hate that deck

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Along with Reno druid (but that's literally just Marin I hate)

brisk plaza Sep 25, 2024, 10:35 PM

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This feels much better. I dug deep into card stats for this one. It actually feels very nice. Highlander may not be a meme. AAECAY0WHu/TBPHTBP3EBazRBfPyBd74BYWOBtaYBvSbBvebBs6cBsekBrSnBranBrqnBq+oBsW6Boa/Boe/BunJBu3JBu/JBvLJBrHOBrrOBuPPBqfTBozWBqXhBvXiBgAAAQbz8gX9xAX1swbHpAb3swbHpAbFugb9xAXvyQb9xAXo3gbHpAYAAA==

woven isleBOT Sep 25, 2024, 10:35 PM

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brisk plaza This feels much better. I dug deep into card stats for this one. It actually fee...

### Highlander Mage
# Cost: 18800
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 1x (1) Arcane Artificer
# ⬜ 1x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 1x (2) Gold Panner
# 🟦 1x (2) Heat Wave
# ⬜ 1x (2) Oh, Manager!
# 🟨 1x (3) Gorgonzormu
# 🟦 1x (3) Knickknack Shack
# 🟦 1x (3) Metal Detector
# 🟪 1x (3) Mixologist
# 🟨 1x (3) Photographer Fizzle
# 🟦 1x (3) Rising Waves
# 🟦 1x (3) Robocaller
# ⬜ 1x (3) Sea Shill
# 🟪 1x (3) Watercolor Artist
# 🟦 1x (4) Conniving Conman
# 🟨 1x (4) E.T.C., Band Manager
# 🟦   1x (5) Star Power
# 🟪   1x (10) Tsunami
# 🟦   1x (4) Conniving Conman
# 🟨 1x (4) Griftah, Trusted Vendor
# 🟨 1x (4) King Tide
# 🟨 1x (5) Mes'Adune the Fractured
# 🟨 1x (5) Portalmancer Skyla
# 🟦 1x (5) Sleet Skater
# 🟦 1x (5) Star Power
# 🟦 1x (6) Blizzard
# 🟨 1x (6) Puzzlemaster Khadgar
# 🟨 1x (8) Kalecgos
# ⬜ 1x (9) Sunset Volley
# 🟨 1x (9) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (4) Twin Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (10) Reno, Lone Ranger
# 🟨 1x (10) The Galactic Projection Orb
# 🟪 1x (10) Tsunami
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/14933182

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/14933182

Highlander Mage Standard Deck

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jolly kettle Sep 25, 2024, 10:55 PM

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I mean, it's a meme, but it'll do ok in greedy matchups

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Reno helps it not fold to Reno druid, for example

brisk plaza Sep 25, 2024, 10:57 PM

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Yeah I've been faring well into the matchup

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It runs a lot of cards that I would want to run anyway, and I think opting for a somewhat cheaper curve is a good idea. There are curves that don't actually lose to aggro with this deck. We'll see how hard I fall tomorrow lmao

jolly kettle Sep 25, 2024, 11:01 PM

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Lol, yeah, that's why the successful orb lists are also mostly low curve

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They can go full greed, but the meta isn't friendly to that right now

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Your list will basically always lose to insanity lock, id estimate

brisk plaza Sep 25, 2024, 11:04 PM

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Yeah maybe. I did win against one earlier courtesy of griftah with the heal and then he couldn't remove my kalecgos and it wrecked him. But it is very tough

jolly kettle Sep 25, 2024, 11:05 PM

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Yeah... I'm usually long dead before a Kalecgos play would be happening

brisk plaza Sep 25, 2024, 11:06 PM

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Most likely yeah.

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You need to make artificer plays or something to survive long enough. Oh and never take damage from board 😂

jolly kettle Sep 25, 2024, 11:30 PM

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Yeah, and it kind of painfully slows down fully stacking your orb, and guts your consistency of accelerating big spells

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Really, Reno and Dungar druid are the only meta decks I'd guess that approach is better against.

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Maybe big shaman?

brisk plaza Sep 25, 2024, 11:37 PM

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Well if druid way comes back to the forefront we may have a good approach here.

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I'm not holding out that it's the best Mage deck post patch to be clear lmao

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Just saw something come up in the stats and wanted to try and refine it a bit

jolly kettle Sep 26, 2024, 12:02 AM

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Yeah, that's how I'd build it if I had that moment of insanity

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But I'd probably use tide pools over knickknack

brisk plaza Sep 26, 2024, 12:05 AM

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Oo yeah that's a good idea

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I hate druid enough I am having this moment of insanity lol

brisk plaza Sep 26, 2024, 2:55 PM

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I'm not exactly destroying people, but after a dozen or so games Reno hasn't brought me ruin yet.

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I'm pretty much 50-50

brisk plaza Sep 26, 2024, 4:27 PM

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I've had two people add me today: one to flame me and another to ask for the list. The duality of hearthstone players lmao

jolly kettle Sep 26, 2024, 4:36 PM

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Lol yep

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Its always one or the other

brisk plaza Sep 26, 2024, 5:25 PM

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And I hate that because I used to add people because the game was really good and I wanted to chat but people don't accept requests because it's usually negative

brisk plaza Sep 26, 2024, 10:41 PM

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Way too early to read into it, but....

jolly kettle Sep 26, 2024, 10:42 PM

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I figured orb would be ok

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them not nerfing the cost of surfalopod also keeps it from dropping off the face of the earth

raven hornet Sep 26, 2024, 10:44 PM

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yeah spell mage still looks good

jolly kettle Sep 26, 2024, 10:45 PM

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Orb mage was a little less reliant on Skyla, so it makes sense that it is looking slightly stronger than old BSM on the early data

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it'll more depend on what the meta ends up looking like

raven hornet Sep 27, 2024, 12:46 PM

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Both deck wi rates dropped a lot over the past day

jolly kettle Sep 27, 2024, 12:46 PM

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Yeah, I expected them to

raven hornet Sep 27, 2024, 12:47 PM

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Looks like maybe due to pipsi paladin

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Well at least no more nerfs and less mirrors now

jolly kettle Sep 27, 2024, 12:47 PM

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Pipsi paladin is definitely a miserable matchup for orb mage

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They can usually OTK you before you can push through their own coin/Conman/shill stuff

raven hornet Sep 27, 2024, 12:49 PM

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Yeah if you can’t freeze them it’s tough

jolly kettle Sep 27, 2024, 12:50 PM

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Even if you do... Lynessa making glowsticks deal 16 damage for a total of 2 Mana is just really bonkers

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Oh managers become deal 4 for negative 2 mana

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How drinks interact with double casting is absurd too

brisk plaza Sep 27, 2024, 12:52 PM

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Cough cough...enter Reno 🙂

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jolly kettle Sep 27, 2024, 12:53 PM

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Funny thing is that the front page Reno mage had a 35% win rate vs pal

brisk plaza Sep 27, 2024, 12:54 PM

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Ooof. I don't like that list. It's insanely greedy

jolly kettle Sep 27, 2024, 12:55 PM

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https://www.hsguru.com/deck/14928834

And yeah, it is

Highlander Mage Standard Deck

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brisk plaza Sep 27, 2024, 12:58 PM

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That list does only have 9 games against pally, so the winrate is kinda low sample. My anecdotal experience is freezing stuff for long enough can get you there with Reno

jolly kettle Sep 27, 2024, 1:07 PM

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The main issue with the freeze until Reno plan is that lynessa just blows you up before you get there

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Most games against that deck I'm in pretty good shape on board/health, then just die from hand because I left a 2/3 up

brisk plaza Sep 27, 2024, 1:11 PM

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Yeah that's very true

jolly kettle Sep 27, 2024, 1:16 PM

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And that's usually well before Reno is playable

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That matchup is another one where you just try to high roll first

raven hornet Sep 27, 2024, 1:25 PM

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Yeah from playing Pipsi the way to counter is freeze them if you can scam fast enough and/or stay topped off or above 30

brisk plaza Sep 27, 2024, 1:26 PM

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Mesadune drawing sleet skater actually goes hard in the matchup.

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I cut artificer because you hate drawing that elemental

jolly kettle Sep 27, 2024, 7:05 PM

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I'm just glad that the deck seems to still be useable

brisk plaza Sep 27, 2024, 7:22 PM

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Me too! I've taken a little break from it but im sure I will come back to it soon.

jolly kettle Sep 28, 2024, 12:45 PM

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Hey, managed to climb back into top 100 this morning

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Current build:

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woven isleBOT Sep 28, 2024, 12:48 PM

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jolly kettle Current build: AAECAc/6AwaH9QW6pwaHvwbjzwbM4Qb14gYM8/IFhY4G1pgG9JsGzpwGtKcGtqcG...

### Orb Big Spell Mage
# Cost: 13320
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# 🟦 2x (2) Heat Wave
# 🟨 1x (3) Dreamplanner Zephrys
# 🟦 2x (3) Metal Detector
# 🟪 2x (3) Mixologist
# ⬜ 2x (3) Sea Shill
# 🟪 2x (3) Watercolor Artist
# 🟦 2x (4) Conniving Conman
# 🟨 1x (4) King Tide
# 🟦 2x (5) Sleet Skater
# 🟦 2x (5) Star Power
# 🟨 1x (6) Norgannon
# 🟨 1x (6) Portalmancer Skyla
# 🟨 1x (6) Puzzlemaster Khadgar
# ⬜ 2x (9) Sunset Volley
# 🟨 1x (10) The Galactic Projection Orb
# 🟪 2x (10) Tsunami
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/14977145

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/14977145

Orb Big Spell Mage Standard Deck

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brisk plaza Sep 28, 2024, 1:53 PM

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Congrats! The build looks super clean 👌

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Really like the mixologists.

jolly kettle Sep 28, 2024, 2:11 PM

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Yeah, they fill in the curve pretty well and are flexible

jolly kettle Sep 28, 2024, 3:27 PM

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Only thing I'm tempted to do to this list is possibly swap a sleet skater for the 7 mana Zilli

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just because of how hard 7 mana zilli can shut down DH

native turret Sep 28, 2024, 6:00 PM

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Nice build!!

jolly kettle Sep 28, 2024, 6:10 PM

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Thanks. Nothing in this one really feels awkward at all

brisk plaza Sep 28, 2024, 11:45 PM

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I was going to camp here, but you've lowkey inspired me to maybe push for top 100 too 👀 I've never been there before, do we think I can do it, chat?

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!ldb ExParrot

woven isleBOT Sep 28, 2024, 11:47 PM

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| Asia-Pacific Standard |
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| ExParrot    | 1958    |
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| Americas Standard  |
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| ExParrot   | 279   |
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brisk plaza Sep 28, 2024, 11:55 PM

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If I gave up on highlander mage it could be doable!

jolly kettle Sep 29, 2024, 12:01 AM

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It could be. You couldn't pay me to play highlander mage, lol

brisk plaza Sep 29, 2024, 12:05 AM

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😂

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Literally had a moment the other day where I was like huh mixologist is really good. I should run a second copy 🤔

jolly kettle Sep 29, 2024, 12:07 AM

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I believe in you getting into top 100 though!

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The next barrier I have to break through is top 50

brisk plaza Sep 29, 2024, 2:04 AM

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I think I can do it. The trick is having enough time 😬

native turret Sep 29, 2024, 6:36 AM

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The trick is also having a good time 🙂 if you like a deck it’s easier to keep jamming it

tulip tulip Sep 29, 2024, 9:11 AM

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Having a blast with this deck. Climbed from 3500 to 2000. I started with the first version proposed here, and here's the version I settled on after tinkering.

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woven isleBOT Sep 29, 2024, 9:11 AM

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tulip tulip Having a blast with this deck. Climbed from 3500 to 2000. I started with the fir...

### Orb Big Spell Mage
# Cost: 14040
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Glacial Shard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# 🟦 2x (2) Heat Wave
# 🟨 1x (3) Dreamplanner Zephrys
# 🟦 2x (3) Metal Detector
# 🟦 2x (3) Reverberations
# ⬜ 2x (3) Sea Shill
# 🟪 2x (3) Watercolor Artist
# 🟦 2x (4) Conniving Conman
# 🟨 1x (4) King Tide
# 🟦 2x (5) Star Power
# 🟨 1x (6) Norgannon
# 🟨 1x (6) Portalmancer Skyla
# 🟨 1x (6) Puzzlemaster Khadgar
# 🟨 1x (7) Marin the Manager
# ⬜ 2x (9) Sunset Volley
# 🟨 1x (9) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (4) Twin Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (10) The Galactic Projection Orb
# 🟪 2x (10) Tsunami
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/15153736

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/15153736

Orb Big Spell Mage Standard Deck

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tulip tulip Sep 29, 2024, 9:12 AM

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Some of my inclusions might be questionable in an optimized list, but they feel right to my taste.

I used to run Skater, but it feels clinky against deck that don't really play minions, and I wanted a more flexible freeze so I replaced it with Shard. Also I hate losing to Weapon Rogue.

Reverb just feels so flexible, I really wanted to have 2 of them. You can do so much shenanigans with this card (for example with Norgannon). I also like how this card solos Twin/Perfect Zilliax.

Heatwave is... okayish. I used to run Rising Wave, but I realize too many times it just sits in my hand, and even against aggro, meeting the anti-defile condition is hard. Replaced it with Heatwave, but I'm not super high on it. But then again, I'm not seeing a lot of aggro lately.

Zephrys and Marin are the fun factor. They might not make the cut in a an optimized list, but I prefer them over a better but more boring option. Zephrys is pretty flexible, can give removal or reach. Marin can set up some crazy turns if you highroll the wand. Especially if you coin him on 5.

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This is the kind of crazy lethal I like with this version (got Grommash from Zeph, set up the previous turn with double Shill)

native turret Sep 29, 2024, 9:33 AM

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jolly kettle Current build: AAECAc/6AwaH9QW6pwaHvwbjzwbM4Qb14gYM8/IFhY4G1pgG9JsGzpwGtKcGtqcG...

This list broke my bad luck curse, nice cooking dude

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Only card I don’t agree with is zephyrs

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I’m like 5-1

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And had only one game where he was useful

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Orbing the enemy is so nice

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Just beat a really grindy warrior and it felt amazing

jolly kettle Sep 29, 2024, 10:06 AM

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Zeph is good for the damage option most of the time. I'll go for board clears against decks like Dungar druid

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I'm glad the bad luck streak broke

jolly kettle Sep 29, 2024, 10:12 AM

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tulip tulip Some of my inclusions might be questionable in an optimized list, but they feel ...

Looks like another good build of it. I ended up with a few different card choices (mixologists and do still use the sleets), but the card choices in the deck are definitely flexible depending on style and what you queue into. Glad the idea is working for you!

tulip tulip Sep 29, 2024, 5:37 PM

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Thx. Yeah, I'm hesitating about putting Mixologist. I love the card, but I feel like the deck has too many 3 drop already. Might swap it for Shard (since it can also give freeze)

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Norgannon really feels nice. To the point I'm wondering if you keep the card in mull against slow decks.

I feel like I win against if I can disrupt their ramp with Norgannon

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against Druids***

jolly kettle Sep 29, 2024, 5:43 PM

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Mixologist is more like a 4 drop in my eyes

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But yeah, ramping into norg early is definitely solid against decks like druid

raven hornet Sep 29, 2024, 6:32 PM

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dont think its close to as good as Orb BSM but am bored and might try big excavate mage after seeing this:
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woven isleBOT Sep 29, 2024, 6:32 PM

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raven hornet dont think its close to as good as Orb BSM but am bored and might try big excava...

### Excavate Mage
# Cost: 8360
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (2) Cryopreservation
# ⬜ 2x (2) Greedy Partner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Kobold Miner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# 🟦 2x (3) Metal Detector
# ⬜ 2x (3) Sea Shill
# 🟪 2x (3) Watercolor Artist
# 🟦 2x (4) Conniving Conman
# 🟨 1x (4) King Tide
# 🟪 2x (4) Reliquary Researcher
# 🟦 2x (6) Blastmage Miner
# 🟨 1x (6) Norgannon
# 🟨 1x (6) Portalmancer Skyla
# 🟨 1x (7) Marin the Manager
# ⬜ 2x (9) Sunset Volley
# 🟪 2x (10) Tsunami
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/14801080

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/14801080

Excavate Mage Standard Deck

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jolly kettle Sep 29, 2024, 6:38 PM

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the excavate package is ok

raven hornet Sep 29, 2024, 6:42 PM

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ya i really wanted to find a deck it coudl work in

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just problem is cryo is frost

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woven isleBOT Sep 29, 2024, 6:52 PM

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raven hornet AAECAf0EBvXiBof1BYe/BvPyBbqnBrrBBgyl4QbpyQbvyQbQgwa2pwbzmwb0mwbFugbKgwbtyQaFjgbv...

### Excavate Mage
# Cost: 9500
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (2) Kobold Miner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# 🟦 2x (3) Metal Detector
# 🟦 2x (3) Robocaller
# ⬜ 2x (3) Sea Shill
# 🟪 2x (3) Watercolor Artist
# 🟦 2x (4) Conniving Conman
# 🟨 1x (4) King Tide
# 🟦 2x (5) Burrow Buster
# 🟦 1x (5) Star Power
# 🟦 2x (6) Blastmage Miner
# 🟨 1x (6) Norgannon
# 🟨 1x (6) Portalmancer Skyla
# 🟨 1x (7) Marin the Manager
# ⬜ 2x (9) Sunset Volley
# 🟨 1x (10) The Galactic Projection Orb
# 🟪 2x (10) Tsunami
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/15195813

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/15195813

Excavate Mage Standard Deck

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jolly kettle Sep 29, 2024, 6:54 PM

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the tide pools location is pretty good at accelerating the excavates because cryopreservation is a higher rate discover

raven hornet Sep 29, 2024, 6:57 PM

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hmm

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could run it over robo

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woven isleBOT Sep 29, 2024, 6:58 PM

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raven hornet AAECAf0EBvXiBof1BYe/BvPyBbqnBtH4BQyFvwbpyQbvyQbQgwa2pwbzmwb0mwbFugbKgwbtyQaFjgbv...

### Excavate Mage
# Cost: 10980
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# 🟨 1x (2) Infinitize the Maxitude
# ⬜ 2x (2) Kobold Miner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# 🟦 2x (3) Metal Detector
# ⬜ 2x (3) Sea Shill
# ⬜ 2x (3) Tide Pools
# 🟪 2x (3) Watercolor Artist
# 🟦 2x (4) Conniving Conman
# 🟨 1x (4) King Tide
# 🟦 2x (5) Burrow Buster
# 🟦 1x (5) Star Power
# 🟦 2x (6) Blastmage Miner
# 🟨 1x (6) Norgannon
# 🟨 1x (6) Portalmancer Skyla
# ⬜ 2x (9) Sunset Volley
# 🟨 1x (10) The Galactic Projection Orb
# 🟪 2x (10) Tsunami
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/15196171

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/15196171

Excavate Mage Standard Deck

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raven hornet Sep 29, 2024, 7:00 PM

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idk about saloon but she did look decent in that list I posted's stats

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so migh try it out

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I know old excavate bounced hawks but I guess you could bounce Skyla?

jolly kettle Sep 29, 2024, 7:03 PM

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bouncing conman is probably the better use of it most of the time

raven hornet Sep 29, 2024, 7:04 PM

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yeah right that too

jolly kettle Sep 29, 2024, 7:04 PM

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skyla is awkward to repeat, because theoretically you'll have like, a 10 cost coin in hand that might swap back

jolly kettle Sep 30, 2024, 7:25 PM

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Ok... Given the podcast calling out Zeph as bad, trying some tweaks...

-1 Zeph
+1 Griftah
-1 sleet skater
+1 7 Mana Zilliax (the game is too fast for me to justify the 9 cost one)

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I MIGHT try ETC over the other sleet skater, but not to hide orb... I'm considering putting blizzard in there as a great frost spell that I don't want interfering with watercolor artists

tulip tulip Oct 1, 2024, 7:04 AM

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I've tinkered mine as well :

1 Zeph
1 Marin
+2 Primordial Glyph

But I'm not sure Glyph is so good. I'm wondering about Kalecgos too. The card seems to have good stats on HSguru. But you can't cheat it out with coins, right ? (Though you can cheat it with Shill)

native turret Oct 1, 2024, 8:01 AM

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I haven't really loved glyph as long as I ran it in bsm

jolly kettle Oct 1, 2024, 10:13 AM

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Glyph is ok, it's not terrible, it's not great. It's fine for a filler that's fairly versatile

jolly kettle Oct 1, 2024, 10:14 AM

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tulip tulip I've tinkered mine as well : - 1 Zeph - 1 Marin +2 Primordial Glyph But I'm not...

You might want to play around with DJ Manastorm. You can cheat him out with coins

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He doesn't discover a card like Kalecgos does, but he is noticeably better if your hand is bloated with big spells

jolly kettle Oct 2, 2024, 7:57 PM

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Well, managed to get enough games in for day 2 legend, and the impressive (but fake) ranking.

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Made some adjustments based on what other decks are doing. Still using heat waves instead of glyphs, the 7 Mana Zilliax instead of 9, and still not hiding the orb in an ETC

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woven isleBOT Oct 2, 2024, 8:02 PM

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jolly kettle Made some adjustments based on what other decks are doing. Still using heat wave...

### Orb Big Spell Mage
# Cost: 12620
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# 🟦 2x (2) Heat Wave
# 🟦 2x (3) Metal Detector
# 🟦 2x (3) Rising Waves
# ⬜ 2x (3) Sea Shill
# 🟪 2x (3) Watercolor Artist
# 🟦 2x (4) Conniving Conman
# 🟨 1x (4) King Tide
# 🟦 1x (5) Sleet Skater
# 🟦 2x (5) Star Power
# 🟨 1x (6) Norgannon
# 🟨 1x (6) Portalmancer Skyla
# 🟨 1x (6) Puzzlemaster Khadgar
# 🟨 1x (7) Marin the Manager
# 🟨 1x (7) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (2) Haywire Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜ 2x (9) Sunset Volley
# 🟨 1x (10) The Galactic Projection Orb
# 🟪 2x (10) Tsunami
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/15446919

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/15446919

Orb Big Spell Mage Standard Deck

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brisk plaza Oct 2, 2024, 8:07 PM

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That's a hell of a screenshot, beginning of season or no 🔥

jolly kettle Oct 2, 2024, 8:09 PM

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I'm sure MrYagut hates me at the moment because I'm like 4 or 5 - 0 against him in the last 48 hours

native turret Oct 2, 2024, 8:53 PM

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dude Smeet

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you cooked again

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heat wave is essential

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https://tenor.com/view/wizard-orb-wizard-orb-magic-orb-crystal-ball-gif-10903100997693781225

Tenor

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With heatwave + rising wave going on I’m thinking that we might be able to go a bit more greedy and run a twin perfect zilli

jolly kettle Oct 2, 2024, 9:09 PM

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It's possible, I've still been trying to shore up the early matchups as much as I can

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Basically it's hyper aggro, which you beat into the ground with removal, then a bunch of decks that you beat with mid game tsunamis and what not, then the slow decks you usually beat with orbs

jolly kettle Oct 2, 2024, 9:25 PM

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There's a bit of "pray for not getting high rolled by dazzler" going on, but I'm not sure twin perfect Zilliax fixed that problem

tulip tulip Oct 2, 2024, 9:34 PM

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jolly kettle Made some adjustments based on what other decks are doing. Still using heat wave...

Looks pretty clean. I think I'll take the same list. Is it the list we're getting in the report (or maybe you don't have the right to say, in which case no problem)

jolly kettle Oct 2, 2024, 9:35 PM

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It's not exact

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But everything has been narrowing in on this stuff

tulip tulip Oct 2, 2024, 9:36 PM

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Though I'm pretty sure I'll face Weapon Rogues the second I remove Glacial Shard. Not that matters, cause I lose most game against Rogue, due to not drawing Shard and Tsunami

jolly kettle Oct 2, 2024, 9:36 PM

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Yeah, they are miserable

tulip tulip Oct 2, 2024, 9:36 PM

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I hate Weapon Rogue archetypes so f*ing much. Hate playing, hate facing it.

jolly kettle Oct 2, 2024, 9:38 PM

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Same. For that specific matchup you'd definitely put shards in over probably the tidal waves

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Maybe the heat waves, but I like those

tulip tulip Oct 2, 2024, 9:41 PM

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Just went checked, my current list pretty similar :

-2 Rising waves
-1 Marin
-1 Skater
+2 Reverb
+2 Shard

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I'll try swapping Shard. I'll keep the Reverb cause I feel I almost never feel bad about drawing those (well except against aggro, but against aggro, drawing anything but Heatwave and maybe Shard feel bad)

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But Reverb is so good against Titans and PerfTwin Zilliax I don't want to cut it.

jolly kettle Oct 2, 2024, 9:49 PM

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I have the opposite opinion on reverb, lol. I hate it in this deck

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Well, hate is a strong word, it's just too situational for me

native turret Oct 3, 2024, 6:33 AM

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Yeah weapon and mech rogues suck

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I also don't believe that people actually derive joy from playing those decks

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The only goal is winning, not enjoying the ride

jolly kettle Oct 3, 2024, 11:04 AM

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Yeah, if they stay rare enough you can get away with just ignoring the matchup and keeping the win rate from their low rolls + your king tide high rolls.

If they are common, then you probably need another source of freeze for face

native turret Oct 5, 2024, 10:04 PM

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woven isleBOT Oct 5, 2024, 10:04 PM

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native turret AAECAbLaBQrv0wSH9QXHpAa0pwa6pwaHvwa6wQaxzgbjzwb14gYK8/IFhY4G1pgG9JsGzpwGtqcGxboG...

### Orb Big Spell Mage
# Cost: 12520
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# 🟦 2x (2) Heat Wave
# 🟦 2x (3) Metal Detector
# 🟦 1x (3) Rising Waves
# ⬜ 2x (3) Sea Shill
# 🟪 2x (3) Watercolor Artist
# 🟦 2x (4) Conniving Conman
# 🟨 1x (4) King Tide
# 🟦 1x (5) Sleet Skater
# 🟦 2x (5) Star Power
# 🟨 1x (6) Norgannon
# 🟨 1x (6) Portalmancer Skyla
# 🟨 1x (6) Puzzlemaster Khadgar
# 🟨 1x (7) Marin the Manager
# 🟨 1x (8) Kalecgos
# ⬜ 2x (9) Sunset Volley
# 🟨 1x (9) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (4) Twin Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (10) The Galactic Projection Orb
# 🟪 2x (10) Tsunami
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/15737512

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/15737512

Orb Big Spell Mage Standard Deck

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native turret Oct 5, 2024, 10:05 PM

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I think this list might be it

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Very happy with it

jolly kettle Oct 5, 2024, 11:30 PM

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Yeah, very close to what I'm running

brisk plaza Oct 7, 2024, 9:31 PM

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I just had a mirror where I went Shill on 3, Norg on 4, conman on 5 and a summoning ward (that I discovered off glyph on turn 2). Hit him for a million damage on turn 6 with a board of 3 norgs lmao

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The highest of rolls 🎲

jolly kettle Oct 7, 2024, 9:40 PM

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Him playing summoning ward to set up 40 damage is actually fairly common

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Got up to 31 legend with the list, but now don't want to risk losing it 😂

brisk plaza Oct 7, 2024, 10:29 PM

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Last time you dropped out of top 100 you made it back higher then before so...I believe!

jolly kettle Oct 7, 2024, 10:40 PM

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Haha, this is true

brisk plaza Oct 7, 2024, 11:28 PM

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Luck is on my side tonight. Just won against RonMexico on stream. He had me down to 2 hp and the next turn I got zilliax and kalecgos off wand lol

brisk plaza Oct 7, 2024, 11:50 PM

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I hate Marin, but I can't deny its a fun card when I play it

jolly kettle Oct 9, 2024, 12:46 PM

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3-0 with it for my dailies today, so near my personal best rank (it is currently my personal best for not day 2 of the season)

native turret Oct 9, 2024, 12:50 PM

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Damn dude

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Impressive

jolly kettle Oct 9, 2024, 12:53 PM

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Did the climb from about 7.5k at the mini set drop to 28 entirely with orb BSM in the various versions we have worked on

brisk plaza Oct 9, 2024, 1:17 PM

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So awesome

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I haven't broken top 100 but I've been doing well with the deck too. This is where I'm at this season:

native turret Oct 9, 2024, 1:25 PM

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I am too jaded by the current meta 😛 Will play again if things get a bit less swingy

brisk plaza Oct 9, 2024, 1:25 PM

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Totally get that. Looking forward to seeing what next expansion holds

native turret Oct 9, 2024, 1:26 PM

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After chilling in the top 300-ish range for 2 seasons I managed to drop out of 1k after a particularly bad streak and now I'm just discouraged from playing again

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Orb is the one deck that I have touched in the last week

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But I'm glad that you guys are still rocking it

jolly kettle Oct 9, 2024, 1:34 PM

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I'm still in the anti-ETC group

raven hornet Oct 9, 2024, 2:37 PM

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I had Skyla hit orb over tsunami twice out of 5 games so now doing etc

brisk plaza Oct 9, 2024, 3:00 PM

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There are advantages and disadvantages to both. Orb in ETC is safer to avoid Skyla low rolls, but it also means we have to play a shitty 4/4 to access it. It also means we can't ever draw into it off wand. I've chosen to run it, but I can totally see the case for both.

jolly kettle Oct 9, 2024, 3:04 PM

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Yep. They both cause low rolls.

Usually if Skyla misses tsunami on 6, it's still playable on 7 thanks to watercolor artist for me though.

And 0 Mana orbs are sometimes still great, just later in the game.

raven hornet Oct 9, 2024, 3:07 PM

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Yeah you can sometimes do an otk with 0 mana orb

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If you run a reverb esp

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Orb - ping your reverb minion into conman for ten more damage face

jolly kettle Oct 9, 2024, 3:26 PM

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I'm not a fan of reverb either 😂

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It's too situational for my tastes

brisk plaza Oct 9, 2024, 6:48 PM

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Man there is a real bump around rank 100. I won at #115 and gained 2 ranks lmao. How did you do it Smeet?

raven hornet Oct 9, 2024, 7:04 PM

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There’s usually mmr jumps around then

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Like sometimes you’ll go up by ten

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After barely moving

brisk plaza Oct 9, 2024, 7:05 PM

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Okay just gotta keep pushing then. I'm so close. I keep moving between 110 and 120

jolly kettle Oct 9, 2024, 7:08 PM

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brisk plaza Man there is a real bump around rank 100. I won at #115 and gained 2 ranks lmao....

The climb slowed down a lot at 100. It's even slower at 25.

brisk plaza Oct 9, 2024, 7:09 PM

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Dude I can't imagine. I saw Haztlan post how he won a game and lost a rank lol

jolly kettle Oct 9, 2024, 7:09 PM

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Well, 26 now, I guess. Someone passed me

brisk plaza Oct 9, 2024, 7:09 PM

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I'm having so much fun tho. The games have been really intense

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I just had a crazy one where I was 6 health against a rainbow shaman. I had played shill the turn before and top decked a 6 mana kalecgos which let me combo it with ETC and orb him to death

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Just imagine if it wasn't in ETC KEKW

jolly kettle Oct 9, 2024, 7:12 PM

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Yeah, sometimes the lines are awkward.

Earlier had a game where I had to trade off a water elemental into a 5/5, ping my elemental to make room for king tide to stop a popgar double crescendo clear

brisk plaza Oct 9, 2024, 7:12 PM

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See this is why you're top 30. When you were spectating me I was like damn there are things I haven't really been thinking about at all

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I also tend to play poorly under the pressure of being watched but still lol

jolly kettle Oct 9, 2024, 7:15 PM

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I still make a bunch of mistakes that I catch later

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For example, took this screenshot to complain about warlock the other day to a friend.

Realized as I was sending it to them that I missed lethal.

brisk plaza Oct 9, 2024, 7:29 PM

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Wait I'm blind

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How is it lethal?

jolly kettle Oct 9, 2024, 7:30 PM

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That's why I missed it :p

tulip tulip Oct 9, 2024, 7:30 PM

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Curseur souvenor

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And noeg

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Norg

jolly kettle Oct 9, 2024, 7:30 PM

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Yep

tulip tulip Oct 9, 2024, 7:30 PM

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I guess

brisk plaza Oct 9, 2024, 7:30 PM

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Ooooo

jolly kettle Oct 9, 2024, 7:30 PM

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Norg shoot face for 5, cursed souvenir would do the rest

brisk plaza Oct 9, 2024, 7:30 PM

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I've missed a lethal like this before too

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I didn't even look at the minions haha

jolly kettle Oct 9, 2024, 7:31 PM

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I've caught this before, but didn't that game

brisk plaza Oct 9, 2024, 7:31 PM

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That's a sneaky lethal

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I'm being gate kept by the same dungar druid player

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Lost twice to him within a few games

jolly kettle Oct 9, 2024, 7:32 PM

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That can be frustrating

brisk plaza Oct 9, 2024, 7:34 PM

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And the Mage player I beat twice in the mirror is now running the surf version instead of orb ugh

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I finally know what an inbred meta looks like 😆

tulip tulip Oct 9, 2024, 7:39 PM

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I tend to miss lethal when I'm the reactive deck in the match-up, because I'm so focused on survival I tend to forget to check the health of the opponent

jolly kettle Oct 9, 2024, 7:58 PM

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Yeah, that's pretty common

raven hornet Oct 10, 2024, 10:31 PM

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glory is playing a Renathal BSM

jolly kettle Oct 10, 2024, 11:08 PM

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I feel like that's going to end up being incorrect

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Or, at best a wash

raven hornet Oct 10, 2024, 11:15 PM

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yeah less chance you draw king tide/skyla

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I guess +10 HP vs aggro

jolly kettle Oct 11, 2024, 12:00 AM

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Yeah, it's probably fine vs aggro, but it likely comes at the cost of other matchups

trail sedge Oct 11, 2024, 12:55 AM

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It’s probably a wash

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That’s how XL mage has been in the past

raven hornet Oct 11, 2024, 1:24 AM

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Ya NHG is playing it now

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yeah doesnt seem better

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harder to draw your big spells

raven hornet Oct 11, 2024, 12:13 PM

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So Banter's BSM list is doing pretty good

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XL BSM*

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@jolly kettle just saw your game against Maxie that cover artists on norg

jolly kettle Oct 11, 2024, 12:19 PM

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I screwed up and missed lethal, lol

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Didn't even consider sending 15 to face with norgs, lol

raven hornet Oct 11, 2024, 12:22 PM

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I forgot cover artists can even target enemy minions

jolly kettle Oct 11, 2024, 12:31 PM

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I also forgot that

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I was just fixated on not dying and assumed I didn't have lethal yet. Hate when I do that

jolly kettle Oct 11, 2024, 12:52 PM

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Oh well, went 1-1 against him instead of 2-0 because of my error.

native turret Oct 11, 2024, 2:24 PM

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raven hornet So Banter's BSM list is doing pretty good

What’s the list PauseChamp

raven hornet Oct 11, 2024, 2:25 PM

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woven isleBOT Oct 11, 2024, 2:25 PM

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raven hornet AAECAf0ECu/TBIf1BeD1BcekBrqnBoe/BrrBBuPPBvXiBsnoBg/oxQXZ0AXz8gXxgAaQgwaFjgb0mwbO...

### XL Orb Big Spell Mage
# Cost: 14360
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Frequency Oscillator
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (2) Audio Splitter
# 🟦 2x (2) Cult Neophyte
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Greedy Partner
# 🟦 2x (3) Metal Detector
# 🟨 1x (3) Prince Renathal
# 🟦 2x (3) Reverberations
# 🟦 2x (3) Robocaller
# ⬜ 2x (3) Sea Shill
# 🟪 2x (3) Watercolor Artist
# 🟦 2x (4) Conniving Conman
# 🟨 1x (4) King Tide
# 🟦 2x (5) Star Power
# 🟨 1x (6) Norgannon
# 🟨 1x (6) Portalmancer Skyla
# 🟨 1x (6) Puzzlemaster Khadgar
# 🟨 1x (7) Marin the Manager
# 🟨 1x (8) Kalecgos
# 🟨 1x (9) DJ Manastorm
# ⬜ 2x (9) Sunset Volley
# 🟨 1x (9) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (4) Twin Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (10) The Galactic Projection Orb
# 🟪 2x (10) Tsunami
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XL Orb Big Spell Mage Standard Deck

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raven hornet Oct 11, 2024, 2:25 PM

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A lot of NA high legend is playing this seems like

jolly kettle Oct 11, 2024, 4:21 PM

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It's just a bunch of added cards I've cut because they weren't good enough now back in there for 10 HP, lol

raven hornet Oct 11, 2024, 4:21 PM

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yup basically lol

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im not sure if its better

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i go back and forth on it

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like i beat two XL mages that skylaed me on 4

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on insanity

jolly kettle Oct 11, 2024, 4:21 PM

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The frequency oscillators are almost certainly wrong

raven hornet Oct 11, 2024, 4:22 PM

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yeah

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we arent doing the rogue Robocaller combo

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feel like those were just added in there because it feels better in rogue

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you lose a lot of your highroll win potential

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and i feel like aggro will just fall off anyways with so many 40 HP decks

tulip tulip Oct 12, 2024, 6:52 AM

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Is Renathal really the way to go ? I'd feel like you'd rather have consistency in drawing big spells, but the early data seems favorable to the XL versions.

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Also, not Sleet Skater feels wrong in a Renathal version. It seems better than Neophyte to me.

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I think I'm gonna try the Renathal version, but I'm cutting Neophyte, Greedy Partner and Oscillator for Skater, Rising waves and Glacial Shard.

I'd like to find a way to fit Mixologist and Glyph too.

jolly kettle Oct 12, 2024, 11:34 AM

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Neophyte probably wins out when 70% of your matches are the mirror

tulip tulip Oct 12, 2024, 12:15 PM

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It does ? I can picture it in the scam version since you want to aggressively win the game. But in a slow Renathal version, I would fear you can't leverage Neophyte enough since your scam opening are less consistent.

jolly kettle Oct 12, 2024, 3:14 PM

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It's one of the most powerful cards you can possibly have going second to counter a King Tide on 4

tulip tulip Oct 12, 2024, 3:44 PM

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Oh, right. Thing is, I'm not seeing a single Mage at 1k EU, all see is Renathal Warrior.

jolly kettle Oct 12, 2024, 3:57 PM

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Yeah, it's much less useful against them

tulip tulip Oct 12, 2024, 4:15 PM

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Is this guy cooking ?
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/s/7ShAEZ8ymy

I guess there are some good options for Orb among the treasures (Embers, Book of Dead).

Probably is bait though... Oh what the heck, I'll put it in just for fun.

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jolly kettle Oct 12, 2024, 4:32 PM

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Probably not

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But yeah, it can be a fun card, just don't expect it to be particularly good

native turret Oct 13, 2024, 11:42 AM

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I've played around a little bit with the renathal orb build

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I think this feels incredible:

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woven isleBOT Oct 13, 2024, 11:43 AM

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native turret AAECAbLaBQzv0wS4xQWH9QXg9QWplQbHpAa6pwaHvwa6wQbjzwb14gbJ6AYO8/IF8YAGkIMGhY4G9JsG...

### XL Orb Big Spell Mage
# Cost: 15920
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# 🟦 2x (2) Cult Neophyte
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Greedy Partner
# ⬜ 1x (2) Instrument Tech
# ⬜ 2x (2) Oh, Manager!
# 🟦 2x (3) Metal Detector
# 🟨 1x (3) Prince Renathal
# 🟦 2x (3) Reverberations
# 🟦 2x (3) Robocaller
# ⬜ 2x (3) Sea Shill
# 🟪 2x (3) Watercolor Artist
# 🟦 2x (4) Conniving Conman
# 🟨 1x (4) King Tide
# 🟦 2x (5) Star Power
# 🟨 1x (6) Norgannon
# 🟨 1x (6) Portalmancer Skyla
# 🟨 1x (6) Puzzlemaster Khadgar
# 🟨 1x (7) Marin the Manager
# 🟨 1x (8) Kalecgos
# 🟨 1x (9) DJ Manastorm
# ⬜ 2x (9) Sunset Volley
# 🟨 1x (9) Yogg-Saron, Unleashed
# 🟨 1x (9) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (4) Twin Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (10) The Galactic Projection Orb
# 🟪 2x (10) Tsunami
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/16621113

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/16621113

XL Orb Big Spell Mage Standard Deck

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native turret Oct 13, 2024, 11:43 AM

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I think renathal orb mage feels indredibly broken and strong

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I don't like audio splitter

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glyph is not looking too hot

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I'm trying oh manager and liking it so far, but that could be a heat wave

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I'm not into oscillator either

raven hornet Oct 13, 2024, 12:00 PM

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I might try no hands list he hit rank 1 with

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He runs Ignis

native turret Oct 13, 2024, 12:13 PM

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checking his list

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its very greedy, looks fun

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i would run 2 neophytes

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Okay I should not forget that sometimes they have reverb

rich surge Oct 17, 2024, 6:15 PM

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Seems broken af.

woven isleBOT Oct 20, 2024, 10:27 PM

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### XL Orb Big Spell Mage
# Cost: 15800
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (2) Audio Splitter
# 🟦 2x (2) Cult Neophyte
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# 🟪 2x (2) Primordial Glyph
# 🟦 2x (3) Metal Detector
# 🟨 1x (3) Prince Renathal
# 🟦 2x (3) Reverberations
# 🟦 2x (3) Robocaller
# ⬜ 2x (3) Sea Shill
# 🟪 2x (3) Watercolor Artist
# 🟦 2x (4) Conniving Conman
# 🟨 1x (4) King Tide
# 🟦 2x (5) Mind Control Tech
# 🟦 2x (5) Star Power
# 🟨 1x (6) Norgannon
# 🟨 1x (6) Portalmancer Skyla
# 🟨 1x (6) Puzzlemaster Khadgar
# 🟨 1x (8) Kalecgos
# 🟪 2x (8) Tsunami
# 🟨 1x (9) DJ Manastorm
# ⬜ 2x (9) Sunset Volley
# 🟨 1x (9) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (4) Twin Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (10) The Galactic Projection Orb
# 🟨 1x (10) Yogg-Saron, Unleashed
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/16998961

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/16998961

XL Orb Big Spell Mage Standard Deck

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tulip tulip Oct 20, 2024, 11:15 PM

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Random bot message ? Someone deleted something ? Also, we still playing Yogg at 10 ? (I cut it from my list, but I'm not sure)

brisk plaza Oct 21, 2024, 12:39 AM

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That was me! I deleted it because I posted the wrong list and then got distracted and forgot to replace it lol

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But I do think double mind control tech feels very good right now

native turret Oct 21, 2024, 2:16 AM

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Hmm, mct sounds correct

brisk plaza Oct 21, 2024, 2:59 AM

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Yeah it feels very good into these 40 card slog fests

brisk plaza Oct 23, 2024, 3:52 PM

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Been doing well today with the double MCT angle. Stargazing seems like a fine 30th card that can potentially give you a double star power turn or just tutor you orb.

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#Orb Big Spell Mage

Ok... Given the podcast calling out Zeph as bad, trying some tweaks...