Battleworn Enrage

[civic jay]

but the version thats been feeling best to me is the one with riffs

im enjoying not running steam guardian, i think that card is kinda ass. and no crazed wretch isnt feeling too bad either. i miss battlesworn a little more though

this is what im running rn, think i got it from worldeights twitter

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[coarse mason]

### Enrage Warrior
# Cost: 9960
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 1x (1) Foul Egg
# ⬜ 1x (1) Miracle Salesman
# 🟦 2x (1) Sanguine Depths
# 🟪 2x (1) Sunfury Champion
# ⬜ 2x (1) Verse Riff
# ⬜ 2x (2) Anima Extractor
# 🟦 2x (2) Embers of Strength
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Jam Session
# 🟦 2x (3) Chorus Riff
# ⬜ 2x (3) Imbued Axe
# ⬜ 2x (4) Light of the Phoenix
# 🟨 1x (4) Thori'belore
# 🟪 2x (5) Bridge Riff
# 🟨 1x (6) Decimator Olgra
# 🟪 2x (6) Trial by Fire
# 🟨 1x (7) Remornia, Living Blade
# 🟨 1x (8) Grommash Hellscream
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/8653802

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/8653802

[civic jay]

wait, i added a split between egg and salesman to try and work out which i like more. its really close.

but overall i wonder if im being baited given that VS recommends the version without riffs. though i feel like no steam guardian is definitely correct, and gold panner has made acolyte feel somewhat redundant

[ashen scroll]

i run vs list but replaced 1 acolyte with remornia

steam isn’t a great card but the discount can be giga important

[civic jay]

yeah discount can be sweet

but theres definitely competition for slots

and too often it's just a 3-3/3 that feels too clunky

[ashen scroll]

panner is a great addition cuz often there is no good turn 2 plays

[ashen scroll]

3 1-drops seems a bit much to me

aren’t u running out of steam?!

[civic jay]

its a split

1x egg, 1x salesman

just because idk which one i like more

same number of 1s as most versions of the list though

[elfin yacht]

It's card draw + discount, it's super solid as a card imo. That being said, it's much less worth the consideration with riffs

I'm back to running eggs entirely

I value the stickiness more than I do the 'card draw'

[civic jay]

Yeah for sure. But 'solid' often doesn't feel like enough. I just find myself resenting it in my hand decently often. It also hurts it that draws cards that you generally want less before drawing thori

[civic jay]

It's not just the draw of salesman, it's that on a 2/2. It's just very good for fighting early game

[elfin yacht]

Eh, I'm quite happy with the tutors, it synergises with Sunfury as well

Jam is a godsend in some matchups, breath is just more card draw, and trial is a big swing

Steam guardian into coin trial saves games sometimes

[elfin yacht]

I get that, yeah. Notably way better to put a stop to fuckin, coin invent-o-matic

More options to stop the snowball

If you had egg instead you need jam

That being said, I still prefer egg

Mana is pretty tight for the early game, and I like the 3/3s that allow you to keep up the initiative after board clears

Stats seem to show they are sidegrades

[ashen scroll]

i prefer egg as well, it’s crucial to have a minion in board, especially in the early game

[clear vapor]

yeah I was doing alright with the riff version. lots, and lots of rush

running the heavy hitters with chorus again felt nice into a greedier field

starting to see quite a bit more xl mage, reno shaman

remornia in particular feels good as a follow up to the reno turn

the general theory behind even considering riffs is that acolyte is looking pretty mid after including gold panner, and batteworn itself doesn't look great

and more rush is good, which is why we go with both riffs and trial

[clear vapor]

the list I tweeted seems to be doing reasonably well in D-L

super small sample size (300 games) but the riffs aren't tanking the deck or anything

[clear vapor]

It looks like Gromm is underperforming, so I’d recommend trying the same list with wretch over gromm

I like salesman because otherwise the riff version doesn’t have much early game

But almost just an importantly, the trading allows for smoothing out finishers

[clear vapor]

I wonder if it would be completely crazy to cut a verse riff and gromm for two crazed wretches

Not going crazy and cutting more then one riff, but verse is by far the worst

[ashen scroll]

this has been tried before
but when you remove one riff from the deck, stats on other riffs look worse

[clear vapor]

yeah I remember the idea was floated before

[stone cove]

Does he ever find the gold that he is looking for?

[civic jay]

yeah

idk the odds, but low

i got it on like the second time a gold panner ever drew me a card

got an achievement and everything

not seen it again since

i decently often play without sound though so maybe it did happen again and i didnt notice

[stone cove]

VS list feels really good. Have to cut acolytes for greed so I added remornia and grom back

Faceless manipulator has won me too many games with wretch combo to cut

Going to try W8s new list

VS list is killing me in Diamond 3. I get farmed by buff paladin

[elfin yacht]

I added one remornia and cut one acolyte

[clear vapor]

yeah vs list still good, but I like all of the rush

[civic jay]

yeah the deck is so good at its core that both versions feel good

and it feels like the playrate is still too low for there to be as much data as one would like

ive been trying a few different things, subbing out a card here and there, but i cant get the sample size by myself to say anything beyond "yep, all of these decks sure are enrage warrior"

overall im enjoying the riff version more than the VS list. but i couldnt honestly tell you if thats because its better or i just like riffs a lot. does feel a bit better though. a lot of good chorus riff hits and bridge riff is still a really good card

also i am never ever cutting remornia from an enrage warrior list. i love that card too fuckin much and i am going to hold a vigil for it and thori when they rotate

[elfin yacht]

Remornia has saved games in Reno matchups personally

I feel grom is pretty ass now since Reno deletes your location that you need to proc grom

And you can't drop both on Reno turn either

[clear vapor]

Yeah Remornia was clutch quite a bit yesterday for me

[elfin yacht]

And Reno is like, 80% of matchups where it's slow enough that grom can be played

[clear vapor]

Every reno deck I faced yesterday had the hero down on 8 or sooner

The weapon helped a lot

[elfin yacht]

How do you think enrage warrior will fare post patch

All our best matchups getting nerfed

Priest silence and reverb was sad enough pre-badlands, I'd rather not have Renos everywhere deleting Thori and Locations

[ashen scroll]

i believe enrage will be tier high t-2 at least

it depends on a meta ofc, shamans/druids and probably cpriests are the main opposition

[clear vapor]

Yeah the Reno match ups are unfavorable. Losing the Paladin meta is the biggest loss though

[elfin yacht]

Tough one vs Savjz

[clear vapor]

Bonk

Where did the two random legendaries come from

[elfin yacht]

3, actually pretty fucked game

His yogg cast cold feet, I cloned his yogg and mine cast stars align

[half belfry]

Given the nerfs, back to Riffs? Or maybe just shelve the deck until they nerf Splish Splash whelp

[ashen scroll]

probably riffs ye

[clear vapor]

Yeah I’m back on riffs

Bridge riff is still quite good

And the fire package is somewhat toned down because if the Thori nerf

[elfin yacht]

Eh, I think enrage is just going to die out

[ashen scroll]

people tend to drop nerfed decks

[ashen scroll]

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[coarse mason]

### Enrage Warrior
# Cost: 9960
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Foul Egg
# 🟦 2x (1) Sanguine Depths
# 🟪 2x (1) Sunfury Champion
# ⬜ 2x (1) Verse Riff
# ⬜ 2x (2) Anima Extractor
# 🟦 2x (2) Embers of Strength
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Jam Session
# 🟦 2x (3) Chorus Riff
# ⬜ 2x (3) Imbued Axe
# ⬜ 2x (4) Light of the Phoenix
# 🟨 1x (4) Thori'belore
# 🟪 2x (5) Bridge Riff
# 🟨 1x (6) Decimator Olgra
# 🟪 2x (6) Trial by Fire
# 🟨 1x (7) Remornia, Living Blade
# 🟨 1x (8) Grommash Hellscream
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/8692461

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/8692461

[civic jay]

these nerfs dont feel too big to me

i was running enrage without battleworn anyway

and the thori nerf is like... eh? deck needed a slight tone down, and it does feel slight

like sure thori having 1 less health can kinda suck. conversely it can even be helpful at times because its easier to make sure she dies running in so i can res her again

[clear vapor]

Oh yeah that’s my riff list

Since I tweeted it I cut gromm and a verse riff for two crazed wretch

[ashen scroll]

grom might be a cut but not sure about the riff

[clear vapor]

yeah the deck is fine, but sometimes there's a tension with not enough card draw

since we dont' have steam guardians to dig for lotp

[elfin yacht]

Eh, I feel like the battleworn nerf is pretty huge

Thori is fine, it's less sticky now but whatever, just rez it

But the battleworn variant usually bursts with wretch -> faceless -> faceless for 6 mana

That's 8 mana now

Not only does the potential burst come later, it also reduces the amount of further buffs (location in hand, jam) you can stack, as well as odd triggers (Sunfury -> fire spell) for wretch

I'm not a big fan of the riff package tbh, at least from my limited experience running it while using the loaner

Maybe I wasn't playing the deck right, but it felt more one dimensional with much less burst from hand

You can't spook control decks with fat wretch OTK

[civic jay]

It is. I just wasn't running it anyway

[clear vapor]

feels solid into paladin still. moved from panner to acolyte. not sure on the stats, but feels a lot better off of a chorus riff. double wretch still to compensate. only one trial by fire, not sure on that since it's so powerful, but I often have board space issues
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[plucky ginkgo]

Did this deck really need to be nerfed? It’s about to rotate and its real strength lies in its dominance against the meta tyrant Paladin.

[clear vapor]

I was fine with the Thori adjustment, that felt “fair”

The faceless nerf really surprised me

It wasn’t a power outlier, and is such a cool card

[civic jay]

me too

its also kinda funny given some of their own statements

im reminded of highlander hunter from a few years ago

that also got a nerf which surprised people a lot, because the deck was actually possibly too good but was also really really underplayed

and i remember the devs talking about that at some point, saying that they slightly regretted that change

enrage warrior feels similar. maybe too good... but so underplayed, that i kinda wish they just left it? its an amazingly fun list, unique in the format, a capstone to and a swansong for multiple really exciting warrior packages and cards that are disappearing in a few months, and enrage warrior also acts as a good valve for paladin which has repeatedly been problematic and was likely predicted as a potential outlier following this patch

im not overly fussed. still playing, enjoying, and suceeding with the deck. but still

[shut wyvern]

I wholeheartedly agree. I know that there’s been some changes to the team but the lessons learned back then hasn’t really transferred over

As you said, there’s similarities between these changes and Dinotamer Brann but also the way they made thief rogue cards this year goes against how they were made last time around

So yeah, if it’s powerful but underplayed.. then let it be. Especially when this archetype also is so old also

[clear vapor]

Nerfing boon of the ascendant also never made any sense to me. Who cares if bless priest good deck for the top .1%

[plucky ginkgo]

Do we have any idea on the current best list? Getting frustrated and want to go back to ol'faithful here.

[echo cove]

[clear vapor]

I’ve been doing alright with the riff version, but I haven’t played it on ladder in a while. I don’t think there are too many match ups I want to queue into other then plague DK

[elfin yacht]

We're so back

[echo cove]

This but unironically

[clear vapor]

whirl wind wind wind wind wind...

[gilded gull]

I hope so

[clear vapor]

yeah idk might be too much damage

[fathom maple]

aftershocks too much dmg ye... but bladestorm you can control how much it'll deal 👀

should be nuts vs what I assume to be a meta full of sludge warlocks now so ima hop back on the enrage train

prob cut faceless / remornia for now, too slow vs sludge

[fathom maple]

3 health thori'belore feels so bad man 😭 straight up dies to most sludge warlock minions

[clear vapor]

Yeah its a bummer that faceless got nerfed . The Thori nudge probably would have been enough

[gilded gull]

Are we back

[clear vapor]

Could be

I know that aftershock acolyte is good

It’s more of a build around though

We can’t run faceless, since we really want to aftershock our anima too

[elfin yacht]

I would cut roaring for more acolyte and aftershock

acolyte aftershock has anough card draw as is

is the location unironically a run

to dupe mega buffed minions

or is that far too slow

On paper it helps dodge board clears, but also on paper you just get reno-ed

[clear vapor]

I just wish the location wasn't so neutered

either drop a mana or don't dormant the minion

or heck even give it rush coming out of the expanse, idk

it's like the team got so burnt by construct quarter that they started there as the base line

yet we still have cathedral at 3 charges

[plucky ginkgo]

That location could have been cool. Could have been the backbone for an Enrage Warrior after rotation when we lose Nathria.

[elfin yacht]

unless they print more enrage warrior support/bring it to core, the rotation of nathria will just kill enrage warrior imo

sanguine depths, anima and axe are far too core to the identity of enrage warrior

and looking at the path they're sending warrior down, I doubt they're rehashing enrage next year

[plucky ginkgo]

Probably a pipe dream for them to bring all of those to Core. It’s too bad as it’s infinitely more interesting than reactive control warrior.

[clear vapor]

Well the Aggro warrior dream lives on in menagerie

[echo cove]

[fathom maple]

they wouldn't bring anything enrage in core, its been around long enough that it's time for something new

whether they actually give warrior something new thats interesting is another topic

the location makes zero sense though, no clue what it was supposed to be

[clear vapor]

Over nerfed on release probably

[elfin yacht]

we are so back, sanguine depths

[plucky ginkgo]

Makes me believe we'll get more support for it in 2024.

It needs to be on the level of Nathria as those cards form the core of the deck.

Losing MOTLK also means losing the fire package

[fathom maple]

generic enrage support prob isnt gonna be too interesting, its gonna be close to impossible to match the depth of current enrage

[plucky ginkgo]

Ya, the deck is dead. Enjoy it in the Frankenmeta and hopefully enough reverts to be strong in Wild.