#Serious

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verbal shadow
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Serious thread (likely temporary) for the discussion of more serious topics and world events like the war in Ukraine.

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*Last Updated: March 7th 2022 2am GMT

verbal shadow
sick sleet
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lets see if we can drag people in here.

sleek river
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Since the Russian stock markets dropped 50%

sick sleet
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@jagged birch you see this?

deep saddle
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So isn't this all politics tho? I'm just a little confused on the grey area.

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But thanks .Red. prolly for the best.

sick sleet
deep saddle
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Technically politics overlaps everything in life somehow if you wanna get philosophical

sleek river
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The Ukraine president is making an announcement right now

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Veterans are joining the fight

glass wyvern
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Basically it’s like debate and discussion over what’s going on as opposed to slander and bad mouthing. Trying to be constructive I guess is the summary

sleek river
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Soldiers are wounded

deep saddle
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Ah ok

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I do my best to educate myself and keep up but it's never enough

sleek river
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He's asking for blood donations for the hospitals need them

glass wyvern
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Life is always about learning man. Don’t stress yourself over the small things 🙂

sleek river
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The national bank has enough resources to take care of the population

deep saddle
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Yea I just turned CNN on. They're playing it also.

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Not many options for TV channels here.

jagged birch
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They have way too much stockpiled in diamonds and oil for these two year losses to matter

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All they'd need to do is blue ball markets for a couple months

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They'd get everything back

sleek river
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NATO is in an emergency meeting

jagged birch
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Where do you get they lost 7 years of gain?

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Even the graphic posted above doesn't show that.

sleek river
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The Belarus president says he didn't join the war

jagged birch
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You see the same valuation on their stock in 2020 as they lost today

sleek river
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Latvia , Estonia and Romania activated the 4th article of NATO

jagged birch
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When I say I want to see losses, I don't mean a simple percentage. I want their stock values to tank so low they mirror their stock values in 2012

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Or earlier

sleek river
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Saying that the Ukraine invasion is a threat to the whole of Europe

jagged birch
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Jeeze their stocks are climbing already

sleek river
jagged birch
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73 rub at 11:30, now at 91 and fluxuating upward

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Looks like someone just sold their stock to try and give the impression the stock was dropping

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So russia probably bought it back up

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They can just keep pumping their stock to keep it up

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Variability is profit

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Sad part is, some war whore is getting rich as fuck right now

sleek river
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@jagged birch Lithuania declares state of emergency

jagged birch
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The right one is where we're at. The left circle is where I want it to be.

deep saddle
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Us banks are preparing for cyber attacks even

sleek river
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They should sanction Belarus too

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Croatian cyber-soldiers are being used to help Ukraine

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Moldova closed it's airspace

jovial hemlock
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I just hope my country won't have any airplanes flying across Ukraine during conflict. You might have heard of the MH17 disaster which happened in July 2014.

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And I am afraid that flight companies care more about money than about human lives 😔

deep saddle
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Sadly sometimes yes.

timber delta
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companies definitely care more about money than about human lives until they are crippled enough to start caring about their workforce again

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just like countries seeing people as plain statistics

jagged birch
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Brilliant. Some industrious little tramp purchased liveaumap (not the same as liveuamap - note the spelling) and they installed a virus on the website for anyone that types the address wrong.

deep saddle
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I mean even with pandemic policy the airlines pressured policy changing. I think the short version is money talks.

sleek river
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@jovial hemlock they closed the civilian airspace

jovial hemlock
sleek river
jagged birch
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Ukraine websites are using ddos protection. Apparently under some sort of cyber attack

jovial hemlock
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That's good. Last time they warned that their airspace wasn't safe but they didn't close it

hearty kelp
jovial hemlock
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But they aren't 100% at blame because the Dutch government and the flight companies should've known better too.

hearty kelp
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Especially banks and other important services

jagged birch
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What is telegram...Some sort of social media tool used in europe?

deep saddle
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Doesn't surprise me sadly.

jagged birch
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Was trying to followup on sourcing an alleged missile strike in Hostomel, but the source is on Telegram and I have no idea wtf that is

jovial hemlock
jagged birch
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20 mins ago

jovial hemlock
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A messaging app

hearty kelp
sick sleet
jagged birch
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Well, someone else might get some value out of this. I can't

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https://t.me/irpininteresting/3692

Telegram
Ірпінь Life

🔴Скинули бомбу на військове містечко в Гостомелі зараз. Рвануло знатно

Гуділо над Бучею і полетіло в бік Гостомеля. Ніхто не постраждав?

Відео скинули підписники

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It's the alleged source of a claim Hostomel was bombed

timber delta
hearty kelp
timber delta
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but yeah it originated in russia and europe

jagged birch
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The importance of Hostomel being bombed is this: It's not a military target.

deep saddle
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I heard about a few cities were bombed yea. But idk their names.

timber delta
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also yeah WA crypto is probably better as its been vetted pretty thoroughly to the point that the indian govt really tried their best to have facebook get some sort of backdoor but they refused since it would mean breaking all existing servers and crippling the service

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while Telegram is only E2E as a separate chat, by default they aren't

sick sleet
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@timber delta good summary, thanks.

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(WA is really annoyingly E2E these days, they spent some really serious engineering on that after the snowden leaks.)

timber delta
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indian govt straight up threatened to ban whatsapp from the country and their rebuttal was basically "ok"

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at least they banned tiktok, while I'm not one for having random authorization over what people consume over the internet I lowkey appreciate it

deep saddle
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I never caught onto the tiktok craze

quiet oyster
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Just a message so I get new message notification.

sleek river
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NATO is sending more troops

deep saddle
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I'm already sad over the lost lives. Can't control that from here.

sleek river
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Separatist forces in Georgia are apparently mobilizing

elfin frost
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this is getting worse isnt it

civic swift
elfin frost
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Well

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Abit more of half a century of peace maybe its gonna change now

marble relic
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Friend sent me this

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sleek river
marble relic
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Summary of what's happening

quiet oyster
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UK going HAM btw.

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Planes being loaded right now with guns, ammunition and anti tank rounds to be handed over to Ukraine.

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Already done previous but basically handing enough guns over for everyone to defend.

sleek river
quiet oyster
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Not allowed to my dude.

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Ukraine isn't a NATO country.

sleek river
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I know

civic swift
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Was close to being one tho

quiet oyster
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NATO isn't in the game of defending a non NATO country.

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Hence the loopholes of supplying them with guns, ammo, tanks etc.

sleek river
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But Putin is going crazy , so he might attack NATO member countries

civic swift
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Hmmm

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What about the UN?

viscid zephyr
quiet oyster
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He won't cause then that triggers NATO offensive.

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Which then triggers WW3.

sleek river
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4 of them already activated article 4

civic swift
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Yeah and as much as he may think Russia almost certainly cannot stand against the entirety of NATO

sleek river
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Latvia or Estonia already sent forces to their borders and activated a state of emergency

quiet oyster
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They can do that cause they're defending their own country.

sleek river
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They NATO members aren't they?

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So there is a fear of being attacked by Russia

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If it does happen

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Ww3

quiet oyster
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But Russia won't for that very reason.

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They're not interested in anywhere else that isn't the Ukraine right now.

sleek river
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Nothing is stopping Russia right now from taking Moldova , My country if they successfully defeat Ukraine

civic swift
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I feel that if we don’t do anything they very much will defeat Ukraine

sleek river
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The Russian government already are arresting anit-war protestors

civic swift
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Sure, Ukraine may put up a good fight

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But it’s Russia we’re talking about here

sleek river
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Russia should stopped with a revolution or just cripple the shit out of
It

quiet oyster
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Russia already is crippled. They about to be crippled more.

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"Only" thing pumping their economy is gas and oil.

sleek river
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well nord 2 is over

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a barrel of oil is over a 100$ now

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but china is planning to buy Russia's wheat

quiet oyster
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I can't imagine wheat being a replacement to other stuff about to be hit with sanctions.

sleek river
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China isn't even calling it a invasion

civic swift
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Aren’t China and Russia allied though?

quiet oyster
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Yeah they are.

sleek river
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yeah

civic swift
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So it makes sense

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Pretend that their buddy ain’t doing anything wrong

sleek river
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India is being neutral is guess?

quiet oyster
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Nah, they put out support for Russia.

civic swift
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Really?

sleek river
civic swift
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I’m very surprised that India sided with Russia

sleek river
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italy might come in clutch

civic swift
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Given that India and China don’t get along very well

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And China and Russia are allies

sleek river
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the Indian ambassador also asked the pm for help

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there might be an emergency council called here

civic swift
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Moldova?

sleek river
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georgia

civic swift
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Wait

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Didn’t you say you were from Moldova just a bit earlier?

sleek river
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no?

civic swift
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What

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Uhh

sleek river
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ah

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moldova was an example

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my apologies for the confusion

civic swift
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Wording was a bit weird

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You said Moldova, my country

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And I thought you meant that you were from Moldova

sleek river
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yeah , I thought the comma made it clear

civic swift
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Commas can be used for lists but also ideas that are separate but related to the previous statement

sleek river
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i used it for the list

civic swift
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Yeah

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I thought otherwise

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Just a bit of confusion

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I understand now tho

sleek river
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Germany being interesting too

civic swift
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Huh

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I guess you know it’s bad when your defense officials are saying it is

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*your army is bad

bold moss
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Germany wouldn't want to get involved either way

sleek river
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this is sad

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bold moss
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Remember the last time Germany was involved militarily in Europe 😐

sleek river
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yeah

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pretty hard to forget about that

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i mean the whole world is basically sanctioning Russia

bold moss
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Posted this before the thread, but it's a good overview of current events.

sleek river
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Russia has carried out 203 attacks so far, says Ukraine police service

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from Ukrainian Police Force

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also Russia is still claiming that the Ukraine government is a nazi one

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Also Turkey might close the Bosphorus straits

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Russia will probably get isoalted

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it'll become like North Korea with only a few trading partners

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More than 150 senior Russian officials sign open letter condemning Putin's invasion of Ukraine as 'an unprecedented atrocity' and warn of 'catastrophic consequences' while urging citizens 'not to participate

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@bold mosshttps://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/taiwan-reports-nine-chinese-aircraft-its-air-defence-zone-2022-02-24/

Reuters
Taiwan reports nine Chinese aircraft in its air defence zone

Taiwan's air force scrambled again on Thursday to warn away nine Chinese aircraft that entered its air defence zone, Taiwan's defence ministry said, on the same day that Russia invaded Ukraine.

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damn

bright barn
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203 attacks? geeze

sleek river
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Belarus launched 4 ballistic missiles

civic swift
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And I seriously feel bad for Ukraine

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A very unfair fight for them

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They are being attacked from three directions

sleek river
civic swift
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Ah

sleek river
civic swift
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Ukraine is under attack from the North, South, and East.

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And not to mention

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Russia is one of the most powerful militaries anyways

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I’m pretty sure that Russian troops are already approaching Kyiv, Ukraine’s capital.

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Just to put it very, very bluntly

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Ukraine doesn’t stand a chance

sleek river
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as far as i know they they failed to break through

civic swift
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Without anyone supporting Ukraine

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They will eventually

quiet oyster
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Whole situation is fucked.

civic swift
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Have there been any major confrontations yet?

sleek river
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don't think so

civic swift
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Yeah, they may have been expecting the attack

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But I don’t think they prepared particularly well

sleek river
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Britain is sending weapons tho

civic swift
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I know

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I just wish countries would help a bit more directly

sleek river
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well they are creating an anti-putin coalition

quiet oyster
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Really fucked up that no other country can help right now.

civic swift
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We shouldn’t just sit around and let Russia get away with this

quiet oyster
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Literally the best choice right now though.

civic swift
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Unfortunately

quiet oyster
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😔

sleek river
civic swift
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Because it’s either sit around and not interfere directly or start WW3

civic swift
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If a country that has the military power to directly oppose them joins the fight, Russia might just back down.

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However

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It’s probably best for the time being to not take that chance

sleek river
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all countries that have been attacked by Russia should create a defense pact

civic swift
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Like, all countries historically speaking?

sleek river
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fairly recent countries

civic swift
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How recent is fairly recent?

sleek river
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2 centuries? or 1

civic swift
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That’s like

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Almost all of Europe lmao

sleek river
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they fighting in chernobyl now

civic swift
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Probably not in it

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Maybe nearby

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As the exclusion zone is a general try-to-avoid place

sleek river
civic swift
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Huh

bright barn
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that's a dangerous thing to do

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i suppose they are fighting, but do they gotta do it in a place that's slowly killing all of them?

civic swift
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I suppose due to the nature of trying to avoid it it’s an ok place if you’re willing to have your troops get well above average radiation doses

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By ok place

bright barn
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oh that's a decent point, keeps fighting away from other people

civic swift
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I mean good to have under your control

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As a place where nobody is planning on going is a good place to set up military operations

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Again

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Only

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If you are willing to give troops a tad too much radiation

bright barn
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to be fair, it is safe to be there, just not for long periods of time

sleek river
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they attacked a hospital

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4 dead

bright barn
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oh

civic swift
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Intentionally attacked it or just got hit from random shelling?

bright barn
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i doubt we know

civic swift
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Fair point

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Probably literally just happened

sleek river
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a shell hit it

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According to a Ukrainian veteran, Putin intended today's offensive as a blitzkrieg: blast everything with missiles, cause chaos and panic, then roll in quickly, encircle major cities, and force a surrender in short order.

This clearly didn't work out, the Russian army is currently getting bogged down, their main offensive on Kharkiv having stalled completely. In other areas they're taking more casualties as time goes on.

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@civic swift if a russian shell hits chernobyl

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nuclear dust will spread over the whole of europe

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i think that's enough reason for an intervention

sleek river
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Advisor to Ukrainian interior ministry says Russian forces entered Chernobyl and that fighting there destroyed a nuclear waste storage facility

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guys

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this is fucked

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@bright barn we getting dosed up

bright barn
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oh

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that's uhh

sleek river
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that's bad

bright barn
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that's very bad

sleek river
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really bad

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also a russian attack jet attacked a residential building

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@viscid zephyr can i send a video of it?

viscid zephyr
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No

sleek river
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okay

viscid zephyr
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You can link a site, and people can go watch it if they want, don't show a preview and explain the vid a bit if you do

sleek river
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aha okay

viscid zephyr
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Hide previews by encapsulating

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<>

sleek river
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kk

sleek river
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@bright barn they captured Chernobyl

bright barn
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Russia?

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i'd assume Russia because what else would you mean by capturing

sleek river
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Yes Russia

quiet oyster
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`UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson begins outlining the latest sanctions against Russia, saying Ukrainians are offering a "fierce defence" and calling Vladimir Putin a "bloodstained aggressor".

He announces that all major Russian banks will face a full UK asset freeze.

The prime minister also promises legislation next week to stop large Russian companies raising finance/debt on UK markets.`

sleek river
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Nice

quiet oyster
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To add a little here. "Russian banks" own properties here so government is about to seize houses and businesses.

sleek river
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How about them oligarchs?

quiet oyster
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It's coming. I got a feeling that taking their bank accounts and houses is a final trigger thing to really piss them off.

sleek river
quiet oyster
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Guy is unhinged.

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Wild AF.

sleek river
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Honestly I expect a state of emergency announced all around Europe

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And Georgia , Latvia , Estonia , Ukraine, Poland will be the battlefields

quiet oyster
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Oh damn. Them same UK sanctions I posted ^^^^^^ are extending to Belarus too.

sleek river
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Nice!

quiet oyster
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President Biden due in 10 minutes to announce US sanctions.

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Curious how hard he's going in.

sleek river
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Also Russian sites are still down I think

quiet oyster
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Yeah DDOS took them offline.

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I think it's more likely that Russia disconnected since they have the internet kill switch that disconnects Russia from the world.

sleek river
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Or a worm before it closed

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@quiet oyster anonymous is taking action

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@civic swift modi wants the violence to cease

glass wyvern
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@quiet oyster you reckon this will affect any of the football clubs, e.g. Chelsea

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I mean if they are to sanction things then how far will they go..

quiet oyster
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Eventually, definitely yes.

civic swift
glass wyvern
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Be interesting to see what happens

sleek river
civic swift
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Not familiar with modi

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What’s that

sleek river
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Modi is the PM of India

civic swift
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Ah

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Okay

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So who do they support?

drowsy whale
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If the sanctions are this severe, it's likely that we could go to war

civic swift
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Possibly

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But what’s Russia gonna do?

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Go to war against half the world?

viscid zephyr
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Not for very long

glass wyvern
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Well this is the thing… what do you class as half of the world?

civic swift
glass wyvern
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There’s population and there there’s money

drowsy whale
sleek river
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Putin didn't even ask the oligarchs about the invasion as I've heard

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He's going rogue

glass wyvern
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Considering India and China have not said they are against Russia then there’s a large population that could back them

sleek river
glass wyvern
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But then there’s money

civic swift
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I think

viscid zephyr
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I mean the loss of money will end this

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Lives don't matter to these people

sleek river
viscid zephyr
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But money does

glass wyvern
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I hope it doesn’t come to full on global conflict. In fact I would like to see a stop to the smaller conflict in Ukraine and the Russian borders right now where retaliation is likely to happen. Basically about 99.9% of the people that are at risk of being killed do not deserve any of it and had no choice and that’s the fucking kicker

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To anyone here that’s Russian or Ukrainian or any other nationality that’s caught in the middle of it due to geographical location of residence I hope you are safe and I’m truly sorry to see this happen in this day and age. Stay strong

sleek river
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Do it

quiet oyster
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LMAO nice

deep saddle
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The fisticuffs are out?

velvet sorrel
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this is not bueno

bright barn
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no bueno at all

deep saddle
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I don't have much faith in him sadly. Being a war time president. Plus I'm worried about hurting the people. This invasion wasn't their choice.

velvet sorrel
sleek river
deep saddle
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Doesn't that hurt the people more than the invasion? If ot disrupts their life.

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Russia seized Chernobyl power plant. This is giving me creepy cold war vibes.

velvet sorrel
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Looks like I'm not going to Chernobyl anytime soon

sleek river
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@deep saddle they gonna use it to fuck with the military

velvet sorrel
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Inb4 there's a secret laboratory underneath Chernobyl where they're making zombies

deep saddle
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That's what I'm afraid of.

sleek river
bright barn
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what the heck'll happen if Russia gets a hold of Ukraine? There's no way they're just gonna stop there

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Fighting Ukraine seems like a short term plan, with more to come

sleek river
velvet sorrel
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My guess is that he'll go after former Soviet countries in an attempt to "restore the Soviet Union"

viscid zephyr
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They don't have the power, resources or infrastructure- they are having problems with the Ukraine

sleek river
glass wyvern
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Most of the other more western former Soviet bloc / USSR is also now NATO allies or EU so I’m not sure he would try that. Some countries around the region and slightly further east might be at risk indeed

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I hope not though and I hope shit stops soon.

sleek river
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That's why we want to get into NATO

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Biden speaking in 9 minutes

deep saddle
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Didn't the US leave nato in the last few years? Thanks to he who shall not be named. A.k.a. patinas 3rd buttcheek

sleek river
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No?

deep saddle
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Maybe it was a different system? The UN? They were trying to leave something international

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I can't remember.

sleek river
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The climate agreement?

deep saddle
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Idk how out of the loop our country our country is on info compared.

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Yes on climate but it was something else too

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Ah ok i found it. He was working on exiting us from Nato but it never happened.

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But I wonder how much that stunt now predicts this invasion if I look back at it.

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Are nukes back on the table is the question?

sleek river
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That would ensure mutual destruction

velvet sorrel
plain bone
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thanks

drowsy whale
velvet sorrel
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It's starting now

velvet sorrel
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Well that was a doozy

jagged birch
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Sanctions and sanctions and sanctions. World treats Russia like it's a misguided youth

deep saddle
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It's like those slap wrist toys. In the mean time lives are being lost now.

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And weapon companies are making a profit.

velvet sorrel
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Russia: threatens the west
US: go sit in a corner and think about what you did

jagged birch
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World: "Go sit in the corner!"
Russia: "Make me!"
World: "If you don't sit in the corner, I'll make it so your corner sitting later is longer"
Russia: "I won't sit in it then, either."

deep saddle
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Yea pretty much.

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It's so frustrating when us average muggles can't do crap to help.

jagged birch
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Don't buy Borscht?

deep saddle
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I buy tofu 😀

jagged birch
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All russian exports to the US and Canada have been terminated.

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Cancelled and denied until further notice

deep saddle
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Don't think I've ever bought Russian products. Chinese and Asian markets is a different thing. I keep a international Pantry.

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Do you get sardines from them or something?

jagged birch
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I'm surprised the world trade organization hasn't intervened

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Guaranteed Russia is going to appeal to them immediately

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Global GDP right now is as weak as it was after the collapse of the housing markets in 2008

velvet sorrel
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Putin wants to restore the land to it's former glory... Sounds familiar

jagged birch
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It starts with the land, then it moves to the people

velvet sorrel
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If anybody else declares war against Russia, it will have been the exact same events as WW2

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Germany invaded Poland, two days later France and Britain declared war, marking the start of the war

deep saddle
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So you can't protest in Russia. No freedom of speech. Not surprised.

jagged birch
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Tell that to followers of Navalny

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Or to Pussy Riot

deep saddle
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Hundreds are being arrested in Moscow.

jagged birch
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It won't stop protesting

deep saddle
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It never does.

jagged birch
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Sure it does. The protest in Ottawa ended with arrests. When a protest is illegitimate, it collapses under the weight of its own inadequacy.

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As is the nature of anarchy

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That isn't to say the protests in russia aren't legitimate

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but that's my point...Their legitimacy is what will drive them

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A movement is more than the people in it. It is an ideal that inspires more.

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Russia's aggression in Ukraine inspired a response

glass wyvern
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Just to clarify, Germany invaded Czechoslovakia first and no one did anything. It was only after the invasion of Poland did others step in. They had the option after a CZSK but didn’t

jagged birch
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and it won't stop under the threat of arrest...and if someone dies in the arrest process it will manifest into something worse

glass wyvern
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But that’s besides the point of what’s going on here and now. I just hope that we have learned after the events of past 100+ years

jagged birch
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I'm going to dig into trade assets between Canada and Russia to identify what companies to discourage investments in.

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Looks like Most of our trade is between Russia and Ontario in the manufacturing industry

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Heard that the UK burned the gold visa system a couple days ago

deep saddle
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Russia is making good money from North Korea too. They have a logging camp up in Siberia.

jagged birch
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Canada in 2021 exported 656 million to Russia in merchandise and imported 2.1 billion from Russia. This is going to hurt Russia.

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Those are magnitudes of levels higher in imports

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Investments in russia were 782 million in 2020, while russia had investments of 1.8 billion in Canada

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All frozen

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I wonder how this is going to impact the housing market

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It's usually a safe investment, but if people are selling off to recoup losses, the housing market will start to deflate.

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A good thing imo

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More houses, cheaper properties over time

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Lower taxes, less inflation

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All eaten up by the gas industry as those prices sky rocket

sleek river
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Well I already bought mine

sleek geyser
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or at least rent

red citrus
jagged birch
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Putin on the ritz

red citrus
#

I am concerned this could be the start of everything costing more here soon. Especially in the summer. I have no proof of it just historical incidents I would think but it's worrisome for sure

jagged birch
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Buy local. It stabilizes the local market against foreign influence

red citrus
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Yeah but that won't do much if this kicks off ww3

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And it very well could

jagged birch
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Sure it will. Infrastructure doesn't build itself.

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Countries talk about investing in infrastructure and half the time they're just talking about roads to reinforce trade which is only one part of it.

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When war happens, countries that rely heavily on trade suffer the most if they can't lock down logistics.

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All I'm saying, every little bit counts.

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One brick after another.

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I don't see this leading to ww3

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If anything it could lead to a second collapse of the russian economy

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Worst case, it ends up revealing precisely which countries are floating russia in this economic squeeze and they get crunched in sanctions as well

sleek geyser
#

gotta love shitbag journalists asking Russian NHL players their opinions on the Russian-Ukraine war, without realizing this could put their families in danger if they speak out

jagged birch
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My guess is Iran and China

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China would probably stop floating russia before eating the kind of losses Russia is

red citrus
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I dunno I gotta disagree. Putin is a crazy bastard he could very easily start ww3. Not trying to argue but everything I have seen or read that I have tried to be objectively open minded about, suggests that he could go off the deep end and cause ww3

jagged birch
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Putin can do a lot of things. I'm less inclined to believe his interest though are shared by enough people willing to go with them

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He's not stupid, but he's over extending and it's showing.

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Otherwise he wouldn't have to lie to the russian people to get support

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and not even subtle lies

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Shit that's verifiably false

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Like Ukraine was built by Russia

deep saddle
#

Some conspericacy theories floating on kickstarter now. That China will follow and invade Thailand in a few weeks and cut off all shipping of board games to the US.

red citrus
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The problem is that happened here. We had the orange bastard who blatantly lied to people to get support.

jagged birch
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Ukraine was bustling before Russia was even a hut in the forest

red citrus
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What I am trying to mean is that while we can see from the protests that a lot of people don't agree, there could be a lot that do agree too it's hard to know what's what

deep saddle
glass wyvern
#

Thailand or Taiwan…?

sleek geyser
deep saddle
sleek geyser
#

what ever will I do without my Unstable Unicorns

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hey, don't attack Thailand, they make my hotwheels

red citrus
#

Hey unstable unicorns is fucking amazing

deep saddle
jagged birch
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I'd question the intelligence of anyone suggesting China would go after Thailand before Taiwan.

glass wyvern
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My point precisely

sleek geyser
#

I'm like, 90% sure we're not going to war

jagged birch
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I'm more inclined to believe they are trolls too stupid to know geopolitics

red citrus
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But China is asshoe and wants Taiwan, whether or not they follow Russia is hard to say. I feel bad for the innocents in Russia and China

glass wyvern
jagged birch
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No. It's worse then that.

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"A little learning is a dangerous thing" - Alexander Pope

glass wyvern
deep saddle
#

China has been at odds with South Korea for a while too. But nothing will happen there really.

sleek river
deep saddle
sleek river
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Don't they want Taiwan?

deep saddle
jagged birch
#

A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again.

Basically, people take a little, run with it and because some measure of truth can be garnered from what they know, even less educated people take it and run with it, creating a cycle of ignorance that inspires with a fragment of truth a level of mistruths and lies that are magnitudes more destructive

sleek river
#

Also Ukrainian forces took back the airport near Kiev

deep saddle
#

I have to keep up with like 7 kickstarter campaigns now I backed. Mostly boardgames. And they're blaming this invasion on shipping delays now.

sleek river
#

Chernobyl is still under Russian control and the stuff are still held hostage

deep saddle
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Biden said the sanctions will take a month of wit and see.

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And we'll go defend Germany in the mean time

jagged birch
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and poland and lithuania

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They're sending forces to Lithuania.

sleek river
#

Germany is blocking the swift proposition

deep saddle
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Ah I missed that part.

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I'm just having my coffee now.

sleek river
#

Ukraine's foreign minister is saying that Russia is bombing hospitals

jagged birch
#

Gunna need more than the word of the foreign minister in a time of crisis

sleek river
#

Also what's Sean Perry doing in Ukraine?

sleek river
jagged birch
#

More

deep saddle
#

They're gonna need more than blood donations 😞

jagged birch
#

Looks like the US is going after Belarus as well

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Roping them into the russian sanctions

velvet sorrel
#

Yeah US declared sanctions against Russia and Belarus

sleek geyser
#

good

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sucks ass that innocent people that were basically lied to are also going to suffer from this

jagged birch
#

Russian military transport allegedly went down in Voronezh

deep saddle
sleek river
sleek river
velvet sorrel
#

Biden is effectively telling Putin to sit in a corner for timeout

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Which won't work on a war criminal

sleek geyser
#

I know for a fact my political science degree is just gonna boil down to 4 years of essays about this

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much in the same way that highschool English class was just writing about how the pandemic affected us

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what a shitty 4 year period

jagged birch
#

For some maybe

sleek geyser
#

I'm curious to see where this goes

jagged birch
#

Taking the pulse of a generation in crisis helps people find meaning in the nightmare.

sleek geyser
#

this is the first time North America would enter a war as a non-aggressor in literal decades

sleek river
#

also Sean Penn went to Ukraine

jagged birch
#

Isn't North America always in a war somewhere tho

sleek geyser
#

yup

sleek river
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apparently to film a documentary

sleek geyser
#

the war on terror is wild

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but yeah, I think if any North American country were to enter the Ukraine and defend against Russia, it would be the first war in North America in which a North American country wasn't the aggressor

deep saddle
#

I mean the culture war with American media is already starting. Divided over the sanctions

sleek geyser
#

people reporting about what Trump thinks about the invasion, as if anyone should even give a damn anymore

sleek river
#

Russians are threatening an attack on Nuclear Power Stations

jagged birch
#

Trump's too busy sueing to try and get his twitter twat back

sleek geyser
#

I mentioned earlier that journalists were asking Russian NHL players what they thought about the invasion

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not realizing that if Russian athletes say anything iffy, their family back home is in danger

deep saddle
sleek geyser
#

of course he did

jagged birch
#

I don't trust Trump's ability to gauge good character.

sleek geyser
#

can't wait for my grandparents to regurgitate this later

sleek river
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Attention! Energodar - Nuclear Power Plant. The Russians have installed cannons and are threatening to attack the nuclear power plant. It will be a tragedy for the whole of Europe

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well this is dangerous

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they are basically threatening a nuclear attack

jagged birch
#

No they aren't

sleek geyser
#

the whole thing is playing out like the plot to a shitty FPS game

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this stuff just writes itself

deep saddle
sleek river
#

bombing a nuclear station is pretty dangerous

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they almost fucked up chernobyl

jagged birch
#

Are you a nuclear physicist?

glass wyvern
#

I think you should post some credible sources rather than adding to any fear some may already be experiencing. But maybe that’s just me.

jagged birch
#

Chernobyl wasn't bombed. It was mishandled. That meltdown was nothing like a bombing

velvet sorrel
sleek geyser
#

I think we should all not be passive aggressive and discuss this respectfully, so this channel isn't closed

velvet sorrel
#

Agreed

jagged birch
#

Trying to find the map for Energodar's supply line.

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Attacking the plant may be grounds for a european direct response.

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That would drag NATO in force

sleek geyser
#

I'm pretty sure attacking power grids is a war crime

velvet sorrel
#

I wonder at what point NATO decides that sanctions are enough

sleek geyser
#

so is attacking hospitals, so we can just add that to the list

velvet sorrel
#

Aren't*

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The invasions itself is a warcrime lol

sleek geyser
#

NATO gets into action the moment one member nation is attacked, they're contractually obligated to do so

velvet sorrel
#

They had a treaty where they promised not to invade Ukraine

sleek geyser
#

how Russia is even on the UN security council is beyond me

sleek river
#

Russia did accidentally hit a Turkish ship, no casualties tho

velvet sorrel
#

So basically if Russia attacks any NATO nation, it's officially WW3

sleek geyser
#

then again, who's going to kick them off the UN security council

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France and the UK are permanently on there

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and they're politically irrelevant

sick sleet
#

@sleek geyser lawyers! (there was talk about "is russia actualy the USSR successor" wrt inheriting the SC perm seat.)

sleek geyser
#

love that

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as a law student, this entire thing is destroying my brain

sick sleet
#

i mean, not going to happen, but... 😄

jagged birch
#

This is what I could find on ukraines power distribution

sleek geyser
#

like, so many international laws have been broken in 48 hours

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also, there's a joke that Russia is the prequel and sequel to the soviet union

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and that joke is kinda' right

velvet sorrel
#

It's okay guys, Putin is a sovereign citizen. No big deal. /s

quiet oyster
sleek geyser
#

I can't see that relevance lasting another 50 years

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France should be off the council 50 years ago

jagged birch
#

Maybe they're trying to lock down the plants feeding belarus

sleek geyser
#

makes sense

jagged birch
#

A more comprehensive listing of Ukraine's power distribution

sleek river
#

wait i'm confused

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i think enerograd isn't a city's name

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it mean power plant

jagged birch
#

Oh

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You mean Enerhodar not energoder?

sleek river
#

but the source says that it's also a cities name

glass wyvern
#

Enerhodar is a town in the south east of the country and it has a nuclear power plant

sleek river
#

i forget that they replace g with h

deep saddle
#

Headlines; putin may have stolen himself a country is 24 hours.

sleek river
#

we lasted 12 days against Russia

deep saddle
#

Russian Journalist put up to say there is no invasion. No troops going in

jagged birch
#

That took longer than it should have

sleek river
#

?

jagged birch
#

The journalist should've been standing at the border saying "This isn't happening!"

deep saddle
#

I thought the puppits would of gone up faster.

sleek river
#

well Ukrainian troops id recapture Hostomel Airfield

jagged birch
#

Next phase will have the russian airforce landing across ukraine

#

The land invasion will come from the air

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Artillery>Power>Supplies>Air>Land

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Followed by tanks

sleek river
#

Russians have deployed over 60 Battalion Tactical groups out 90

deep saddle
#

Omg. The bathrooms are so nice in Russia to Eric Trump so we should support an invasion. My head is hurting.

jagged birch
#

Why are you reading words that come out of a Trump?

#

That's like punching yourself in the face

sleek river
#

Well Ukrainians pushed back Russians to the east

deep saddle
#

I'm trying to get an independent media perspective and unfortunately progressive channels like to follow Kinberly gilfoil and the family.

jagged birch
#

right wing is not progressive

#

Progressive seeks change.

sleek river
#

W.H.O released 3.5m$ to purchase medical supplies for Ukraine

deep saddle
#

No no lmao. I listen to progressives attempting to debunk them with facts and get us back to rational critical thinking

#

Some channels just believe we need to follow them to stay alert to the dangers of misinformation and the rest of the nonsense.

sleek river
#

well Anonymous is going into a Cyberwar against Russia

jagged birch
#

Anon isn't the one they need to worry about.

sleek river
#

BREAKING: More than 10,000 rifles given to civilians to help defend Ukraine's capital - minister

jagged birch
#

Dark Basin is more dangerous than Anonymous

sick sleet
#

talking about 10k ... it seems facebook has a limit of 10k deletes per user per day ... so ... some orgs have problems cleaning up their comments sections today. 😅

elfin frost
#

welp

finite sail
#

wtf

deep saddle
#

As long as they aren't handing an assault rifle to a 3 year old. But in all seriousness this whole crisis is a nightmare for humanity.

finite sail
#

you got a source for that 10k to civs?

velvet sorrel
#

Yeah can we start adding sources to claims. Would be nice

sick sleet
#

"Ukraine's interior ministry says men between the ages of 18 and 60 are banned from leaving the country"

deep saddle
#

Oof.

#

Sounds like a draft is imminent

finite sail
#

i do think its goofy that theres so much news about Russia capturing Chernobyl... capturing from what? a bunch of wolves?

#

is it a strong strategic position or something?

#

60 jesus

sleek river
finite sail
sleek river
#

np

glass wyvern
#

But that’s me speculating

sleek river
#

Ukraine says that Russia's Blitzkrieg failed

sleek river
#

and it's empty

#

I've heard rumors that they are planning to set up a FOB

finite sail
#

some of the headlines are so stupid though
yahoo with the fearmongering clickbait

unknown.png
#

i dont think empty town of failed nuclear reactor has anything to do with launchin nukes you yahoos

glass wyvern
#

Aptly named news source lol

sleek river
finite sail
#

they gunna build more nukes with the elephants foot?

glass wyvern
#

Unlikely

finite sail
#

im not a nukeologist but i feel like thats not how it works

sleek river
#

if they fuck it up nuclear dust may spread

#

there is a danger of nuclear waste spreading over europe

finite sail
#

hmmm that is a good point

sleek river
#

hmmm

finite sail
#

i dont know enough about how radioactive chernobyl still is

#

hmmm indeed

sick sleet
#

(as in, small arms fire is a stupid move, but not an actual danger)

sleek river
finite sail
#

gotcha gotcha, thanks for the insight dudes

sleek river
sick sleet
#

the sarkophagus is pretty broken down and leaky as hell though, thats why the "new containment" was installed.

sleek river
#

yeah imagine both of those get destroyed

finite sail
#

yeah same thing with bikini atoll, the concrete dome is going to shit

sleek river
#

pretty much a declaration of war

sick sleet
#

more worried about the active NPPs there, chernobyl doesnt seem relevant outside of being target for a potential false-flag op (of either side)

sleek river
#

what's NPP?

sick sleet
#

nuclear power plant

deep saddle
#

I wonder if it has more sentimental or historic symbolism than anything

sleek river
sick sleet
sleek river
sick sleet
#

oh, i meant ukrainian NPPs in general there, not chernobyl.

sleek river
#

ah , sorry

sick sleet
#

its just that an active reactor is much more of a fallout risk than chernobyl.

sleek river
#

well they threatened to bomb reactors

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just can't access the facebook post

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@sick sleetdo you have facebook btw?

sick sleet
#

no, i do not use facebook.

sleek river
#

yes that's the one

velvet sorrel
#

Uh

#

Uh

#

That's really not good

sleek river
#

@jagged birch

#

i told ya

sleek river
velvet sorrel
#

I would argue that today marks the start of WW3, but that's just my opinion

sick sleet
#

it may turn out to be, but so far it is very much not.

sleek river
sick sleet
#

yeah, poland would be a bad sign. west taiwan deciding to reunite with taiwan too.

sleek river
sick sleet
#

anyone here outside of NATO ... please try https://mil.ru and tell me what happens

sleek river
velvet sorrel
#

I'm NATO, can't access it

sick sleet
#

(trying to triangulate the geofence they seem to have up. i am getting 418.)

velvet sorrel
#

418 as well

sleek river
#

for me it's blank

velvet sorrel
#

Is Georgia NATO?

sick sleet
#

yeah, the 418 will come up as a blank page in a regular browser.

sleek river
#

and i ain't a NATO member

velvet sorrel
#

Okay wasn't sure

sleek river
#

wished i was a member tho

sick sleet
#

@sleek river and you are not on a VPN or so, you are using native georgian IP space?

sleek river
#

yeah

#

Russian government sites have been down for a long time

sick sleet
sleek river
#

hours

sick sleet
#

thanks.

sleek river
#

maybe this is why?

velvet sorrel
#

Could be

sleek river
#

or Ukraine is mounting a counter Cyber-attack

velvet sorrel
#

Would this be the first official cyber war?

sleek river
#

nah

#

everyone is always hacking each other

glass wyvern
sleek river
velvet sorrel
#

So maybe NATO and a few others are being blacklisted?

sick sleet
#

blank when coming from what kind of ipspace? (just region/country or so)

sleek river
sick sleet
glass wyvern
#

I’m in Czech Republic and always on VPN, regularly just Czech VPN server but I switched for the purposes of test

#

Let me try other servers

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Blank on Sweden who are non-NATO

velvet sorrel
#

Really hope they don't blow up the NPP

glass wyvern
#

Blank on UAE, Georgia, and Vietnamese servers but working on Moldovan

velvet sorrel
#

That would be unpog

sick sleet
#

@glass wyvern thanks!

sleek river
#

why moldova tho?

sick sleet
glass wyvern
#

No worries. I can keep trying others but so far only Moldova and Russia work for the connection

sleek river
glass wyvern
#

Yeah tried a few others neighbouring the region and all blank. Just Moldova and Russia seem to be able to access

sleek river
#

Ukrainians destroyed a Russian tank

velvet sorrel
#

Fuck yeah

sleek river
#

Also they are seemingly abandoning vehicles

sick sleet
#

"The radioactive radiation at the #Chernobyl reactor has increased significantly in the last few hours from 3200 nSv/h to 65,500 nSv/h"

sleek river
#

Apparently Russian authorities are planning to invade Kiev within 96 hours

velvet sorrel
sleek river
sick sleet
#

(which doesnt have to mean much anything more than "there are suddenly a lot of people driving around in the area and stirring up dust")

velvet sorrel
sleek river
velvet sorrel
sleek river
#

during the construction of the cover

velvet sorrel
#

Sorry kyiv**

sleek river
velvet sorrel
#

Wait oh

#

They're the aame

#

Same

#

But it's Kyiv not Kiev apparently

sleek river
#

everyone will be drafted

velvet sorrel
#

I mean what else are they gonna do lol

#

Nobody is helping them

sleek river
#

if Georgia had more troops we would help them

#

but there is a Georgian battalion fighting for Ukraine

glass wyvern
sick sleet
#

yeah, the dosage is low and not worrying.

#

but i found the map for it by now, and its concentrated on the reactor/containment, so not just things being stirred up in general.

sleek river
velvet sorrel
#

Why TF would they want Chernobyl

#

That makes no sense

sleek river
#

they activated like 20 mill troops basically

velvet sorrel
#

Ukraine did? Or Russia did

sleek river
#

Ukraine

velvet sorrel
#

Gotcha

sleek river
glass wyvern
velvet sorrel
#

Like I said before

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Secret lab

sick sleet
#

beware of the zombie alpacalypse

velvet sorrel
#

Exactly

sleek river
#

they already killed a Ukrainian journalist

velvet sorrel
#

Warcrime

sleek river
#

1800 Russians have been arrested for the anti-war protests

sleek river
red citrus
#

Sweet 90% of the US semiconductor grade Neon is in Ukraine, well is supplied by. Chips gunna be more costly too.
I dont feel this should go in off topic due to it being part of this conversation

sick sleet
#

(standard russian mil doctrine to do softening-up bombardment slightly before dawn, and start otg ops slightly after)

#

and an absolutely batshit crazy rant by rogozin that the "sanctions" could force RU to stop correcting the ISS orbit, and it could fall on US, EU, IN, CN because of that.

sleek river
#

30 Russian tanks, 130 armored fighting vehicles, 5 aircraft and 6 helicopters lost on the first day of the invasion Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

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3500 Russians KIA

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137 Ukrainian Soldiers lives lost , Heroes.

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316 Soldiers were wounded . 57 civilians were killed by Russians and 169 were injured

velvet sorrel
#

Holy fuck Russia got ratioed by Ukraine

sleek river
#

don't have a source tho unfortunately

velvet sorrel
#

Just share where you saw it if you can

sleek river
velvet sorrel
#

Thanis

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Thanks*

sick sleet
#

an interesting aspect there how much ukraine is dominating in the propaganda battle there.

sleek river
#

you have to keep up the moral

sick sleet
#

i would have expected the russians to win that one hands-down.

#

so there might actualy be some cyber-cyber from the side going on keeping RU busy for the moment.

marble relic
sleek river
#

yeah , just noticed

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@sick sleet

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sleek river
sick sleet
#

rumors about ru specops being in kiev trying to get zelensky before a massive bombardment starts in about an hour...

sick sleet
#

several neighbouring countries entirely opened their borders for refugees from ukraine by now. romania, poland, estonia ...

deep saddle
#

Sadly the men can't leave. They're banned from leaving so they can take up arms.

#

It's gonna be women and children.

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Like one of the ffxiv streamers I follow was covering her escape on twitch

red citrus
#

I hope this is true

uatm6u0rjvj81.png
sick sleet
#

"Captured Russian soldiers claim that they didn't know they are heading to Ukraine, understood this only some time after they landed. "

finite sail
sick sleet
deep saddle
#

CNN wasn't up to date. They didn't hear Ukraine took the airport back.

sick sleet
red citrus
#

Some good news, we got the qnim helping

#

Anon*

sick sleet
#

ongoing bombardment currently

#

while the reason i am hanging out there again sucks, its always fascinating to see the OWLs at work. high grade nerd comms, even if a very different kind of nerd than me.

sick sleet
#

"After sanctions against Aeroflot, Russia retains the right to apply mirror measures, Rosaviatsia said"

sick sleet
sick sleet
elfin frost
#

tbh

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why they put sanctions of economy and stuff

#

its not gonna change shit anymore

hearty kelp
# red citrus

A group that started from 4chan really fighting in a real war

hearty kelp
elfin frost
#

soo they try to avoid the unvoidable?

#

🤔

#

no one wil win WW3

hearty kelp
#

Hope always dies last ig

elfin frost
#

no one

#

soo if WW3 we all dead

#

no one survive

#

and those sanction arent gonna change anything for the war there

#

they really think its gonna scare puting and be like omg i stop they putted economic sanction im so scared

#

its not gonna change shit

#

they dont understand the democratic way anymore

quiet oyster
#

The sanctions are intended to hurt the general public and businesses so they start putting pressure on the government.

elfin frost
#

lol

#

yeah sure...

quiet oyster
#

Dude have you not seen the protests in Russia?

#

That's before sanctions are having an effect.

elfin frost
#

and what gonna happen?

#

nothing

#

nothing gonna change

quiet oyster
#

Ok

elfin frost
#

they were protest before

quiet oyster
#

Ok

elfin frost
#

nothing happened

quiet oyster
#

Ok

elfin frost
#

im ok with democracy and stuff but when someone refuse to talk at one point its done

quiet oyster
#

Russia isn't a democracy though.

elfin frost
#

i mean talk in a democratic way

#

all the country tried a democratic end

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it didnt worked

#

and it wont

#

putting sanctions and having riot isnt gonna stop putin from having ukraine

#

and we just gonna sit and watch

quiet oyster
#

Yes, that's the plan.

#

Ukraine has been supplied with weapons and ammo by other countries. No country can help defend Ukraine with armies etc cause it definitely will trigger WW3.

#

Nobody wants or needs WW3. That is the only interest right now, no country wants that happening so they are actively avoiding a trigger.

elfin frost
#

yeah i understand but

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to avoid WW3 we let a country loose people

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i saw a ukraine woman saying she almost died and she wont surrender

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that person gonna die

quiet oyster
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Yes, that's how it works.

elfin frost
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like fuck*

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yeah but i dont know its an attack on the whole europe continent

quiet oyster
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It's not really. It's an attack on Ukraine. It's shit that it's happening it really is but this happened in 2014 and the same thing happened back then, it was shrugged of.
This time around Ukraine has foreign weapons to actively defend, they did not have that previously. Countries are helping to the literal best they can.

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No country can provide Ukraine with an army, that's just not happening.

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No other European country will be attacked because that will most definitely trigger WW3 and even Russia does not want that.

elfin frost
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yeah

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but to avoid WW3 we need to loose a country

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we need to loose people

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woman and man

quiet oyster
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Yes. That part sucks.

marble relic
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Welcome to humanity, enjoy your stay

elfin frost
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fuck that

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tbh i prefer ww3 happening than seeing this and sit and watch it may be dumb i know but

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like fuck

quiet oyster
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ww3 leads to human extinction, totally.

elfin frost
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we already going there seeing how we treat earth

quiet oyster
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Kinda weird you want that but are worrying about human losses in Ukraine.

elfin frost
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i prefer suffering what they suffering

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than sit on my couch drinking my soda and watch video of people dying

quiet oyster
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Then go volunteer your help. Ukraine is accepting all army signups right now.

elfin frost
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i dont have a way to go there sadly

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if i was closer maybe

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like my dad is a reservist for french military

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but yeah if leaders think their sanction gonna change shit for making this war stop

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then they are fucking dumb

quiet oyster
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It's not the intention to make it stop.

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Quick example.
Right now Russian tanks are being destroyed, Russian planes being shot of the sky.
Sanctions would put enough pressure on the Russian economy to make replacing them destroyed things more difficult.
Meaning, the Russian army would be less armed for a good while than it is right now.

elfin frost
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yes but u know they still have quite some in stock

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we gonna give to ukraine arms that good

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but what if there none people to use those anymore

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no army left

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its not gonna change anything because they will be no one left to use them against russian

sleek river
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@quiet oyster the US says that Russia couldn't take any major objectives and lost a lot of people

quiet oyster
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"Apparently" the Russian plan was to hit the smaller targets to force Ukraine defenders from Kyiv and then easily move on Kyiv.

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None of that happened, Ukraine defenders stayed put and shot the fuck out of Russians.

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Literally just now Ukraine bombed a tank convoy heading in to Kyiv and wiped it out.

sleek river
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Nice

bold moss
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It's the Winter War all over again, but not Finland this time.

sleek river
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@quiet oyster now a Romanian ship has been struck by Russians

sick sleet
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the radiation around chernobyl is still increasing, and still in a weird pattern too.

glass wyvern
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It’s still not seen as critical even to neighbouring Kyiv I understand. I’m sure it will continue to rise further before subsiding again.

sick sleet
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kiev seems to have more immediate problems right now.

glass wyvern
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Well indeed

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My point being it wasn’t classed as added concern according the local monitoring that is happening

sleek river
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@sick sleet 1000 Russian casualties reported today by the Ukrainian Military

elfin frost
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ukraine people are calling a fighter jet pilot the ghost of Kyiv

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i heard he shoot down like 10 russian planes or something insane

sleek river
elfin frost
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6 soory

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i hope this is true

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damn that be insane if its true

sleek river
civic swift
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They’re on a roll

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Godspeed

elfin frost
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godspeed bud

civic swift
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Honestly given the situation, Ukraine is holding up pretty damn well

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I mean after all their active military is larger than russia’s force

sleek river
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sweden sent more weapons

civic swift
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But only slightly

sleek river
elfin frost
civic swift
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Larger by number of personnel

elfin frost
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for sure they are holding up well soo far

sleek river
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10000 Chechens are being sent to Ukraine

civic swift
finite sail
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tfw the Taliban put out a statement sayin "yo chill, dont do war"

sleek river
sleek river
civic swift
civic swift
sleek river
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maybe over 2 mill in civilian forces

sleek river
civic swift
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So under what circumstances are reserves activated?

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Or

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Deployed

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Whichever word is better

sleek river
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they are activated already

elfin frost
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lol lets imagine the russia army get pushed back

civic swift
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Probably will at this rate

sleek river
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everyone is being drafted

elfin frost
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ukraine like really u wanna fight us they get inside russia

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payback a bitch

civic swift
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Lmao imagine

sleek river
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Able bodied men from 18 to 60 are being banned from leaving the country

elfin frost
civic swift
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Russian invasion of Ukraine turns Ukrainian invasion of Russia

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Not gonna happen tho

finite sail
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if the Ghost of Kyiv is true theyre the first ace of this century

sleek river
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Wish Georgia had more troops

civic swift
elfin frost
finite sail
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i think he is

civic swift
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Man is working overtime to protect his homeland, godspeed

sleek river
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Also Russians bombed a orphanage house

finite sail
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i was speaking to a friend last night who flew intelligence aircraft for the air force for a decade, and he seemed to think it was. he tends to be someone with good info lol

elfin frost
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that ghost of kyiv played a lot of ace combat

sleek river
finite sail
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also would be an "Ace in a Day" which is more rare

finite sail
sleek river
civic swift
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Uh oh

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People getting caught in the crossfire

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Never ends well

sleek river
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well an orphanage was hit too

civic swift
sleek river
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also Ukraine got back the snake island

civic swift
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Oh nice

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They’re really turning the tide now

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Was slow to wake on the first day

sleek river
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not tryna be rude why y'all ignoring the orphanage

finite sail
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snake island the go f*ck yourself one?

civic swift
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But damn they are moving now

sleek river
finite sail
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legends those chaps

civic swift
finite sail
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that its fuckin terrible

sleek river
finite sail
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yup

civic swift
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Yeah it’s a war crime

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But nobody wants to risk confronting russia about it

sleek river
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apparently a child was injured