Archived Thread - Light No Fire

[rose plover]

Evil player character

Finally I can be myself

[warm mountain]

Finally! A rare gem amongst RPGs! Good thing HG isn't pushing the "main character syndrome" for us

[rose plover]

Or maybe it’s a chose your path thing

[balmy pelican]

Not too different to nms because anything I do near a sentinel they consider “evil”

[rose plover]

So we can chose between good and evil

[vapid plinth]

Probably neither

[warm mountain]

we get to be just random nobodies who forge their own path. I love this. No predetermined destiny to save the world from a great evil

[torn trail]

Evil includes burning down all villages nearby?

Stealing resources

[vapid plinth]

Probably factions like nms

It's nms fantasy version

[balmy pelican]

Like the rabbits people

Faction bonuses?

[vapid plinth]

||its the paid dlc for the atlas simulation||

[half mulch]

I'm only here for LNF, hopefully there will be a proper space for it on Discord soon :)

[balmy pelican]

||i think the red ball at the end of the trailer is atlas in an early stage||

[vapid plinth]

Lemme give yall my full theory

[balmy pelican]

👂

[vapid plinth]

||the gek are now dragons and the korvax are knowledge giants. This is one of the alternate universes the Atlas can simulate. That's why the red ball and stuff was so prevalent at the end. It's the atlas but in this simulation.||

@silk crane

[wild cliff]

I hope for more than 4 players... but would love if the single world could connect all players through systems like the economy, etc.

[balmy pelican]

Sounds really cool, ||could that mean the dragons are sentient?||

[warm mountain]

My heart cries when people say the game would be related to NMS 😭

C'mon guys. It's the artists style. You can see the same effect with various studios and their separate IPs.

[vapid plinth]

I would assume so. We had sentient ships in nms

I'll rewatch the teaser later today and see if there are any vykeen

[warm mountain]

They're creative people. They definitely have written and created a rich and deep lore for this new and fresh world. Please don't try to force this flourishing piece of art into a pre-existing mold of an ongoing game and it's universe which already has a living evolving story ;-;

[balmy pelican]

||Korvax giants are making me think is this earth like planet the alt universe Korvax Prime?||

[warm mountain]

NMS is a heck of a good game but it stands on its own two legs. Just like LNF will

[vapid plinth]

That's rude to assume that nms lore can't be intertwined with this new game

[silk crane]

No u

[vapid plinth]

I'm just making observations from the teaser provided

[silk crane]

I'm just teasing

What I expect is its own thing - but I'd bet there are Easter eggs/nods to NMS

[wild cliff]

Yep I agree... this is a clear departure from NMS, but leveraging the tech and all the learnings they've advanced

[vapid plinth]

Can't wait to win this bet

[warm mountain]

Wow wow now. Well if it comes to this, personally I think it's rude to forcibly mould HGs artists unique work into an existing already great story.

Easter eggs and crossover events are what I'd expect at furthest

[silk crane]

Ooooo crossover

[balmy pelican]

Since this game seems heavy on multiplayer, I’m hoping for split screen (even though it’s basically non existent nowadays)

[silk crane]

Hadn't got there yet

[wild cliff]

If the planet for LNF is not present in NMS, riot?

[silk crane]

Go ahead

[wild cliff]

We just haven't found it yet 🙂

[balmy pelican]

The giants in the trailer had knowledge stones for heads

[silk crane]

Like that, yeah

[warm mountain]

Like... if people are so keen on not respecting HGs artist and writers spreading their wings... sure. Keep fixating on NMS. But that can be done on #no-mans-sky

I like NMS but there's no reason to try and force this game to somehow be NMS

[silk crane]

I'm going to force it to be Skyrim, but good

[vapid plinth]

||its not a stretch to assume this is another atlas simulation. Especially since it's hinted there are potentially multiple universes and realities that the atlas can simulate at any given point. I think it would actually increase the depth of both if the atlas is innate to both universes. Keeping both alive||

[balmy pelican]

“Keep fixating on nms” this is quite literally a nms server, of course people (me) are doing that

[silk crane]

That's a fair point

[half mulch]

Ideally an 'Earth'/world would be equivalent to a server, e.g. how it is done in Minecraft

[silk crane]

I still think it won't be intertwined like that

[half mulch]

It would be quite difficult to accomplish, but I feel like HG can do it

[shy pasture]

YO WHAT IS THAT!

[warm mountain]

Tru tru. I just feel sad that some people don't seem to want this unique IP to be its own thing and respect the artists and writers work... HG is an innovative and creative studio. The whole studio was made because Sean was sick of working on sequels and same IPs year after year at EA.

[warm mountain]

That could be logical and a neat canon easter egg/hint.

As long as the LNF story has its own thing going on within its simulation

[half mulch]

Do we know that the world of LNF is a simulation? I mean it makes sense

[shy pasture]

LMAO

even if it is glitchy at launch

we know the dev team will fix it

[hushed fossil]

This was the best reveal at TGA

[tiny barn]

I was only watch for HG's lol

[balmy pelican]

Good point, even if it’s completely unrelated to nms, it still looks like it’ll be a really good game, gameplay and story wise. At this point, we’re just trying to link LNF to nms based on similar visuals, but there’s no guarantee lnf is a prequel or sequel.

[tiny barn]

got more then I expected

[warm mountain]

also this xD

[tiny barn]

haha damn

[hushed fossil]

It’s literally only been revealed but is there any hint of a release date 202….?

[balmy pelican]

202….soon

[warm mountain]

I can see NMS everywhere in LNF footage. That makes me happy. It means the team behind NMS has moved to LNF.

And it isn't even that far fetched. The content style and direction of NMS has gone in a very different route as of late. Could be a new team on that whilst the og "studio heroes" moved on this new thing

[tiny barn]

I look it up and NMS was like 3 years and the last campfire was like 2 years

[hushed fossil]

😆🫠

[warm mountain]

Their handiwork and style can be seen everywhere around. And all the experience from the past years!

[tiny barn]

it could be 5 years could be 1 year we don't know but you could use their last 2 games and say maybe 2-3 years is possible

[iron sleet]

I'm excited.

But I also feel like people will want to explore everything "first"

[hushed fossil]

I just want to learn all the lore

[iron sleet]

and it'll be a battle to build

[balmy pelican]

Also is nobody going to talk about the skeletons in the trailer

[shy pasture]

I wanna grab a sword and a dragon and have to boss battles with my friends

[iron sleet]

the lil babies!

[shy pasture]

Oh wait I don't have any...

[hushed fossil]

Omg I’m so excited I need to calm it

[shy pasture]

I cannot contain the hype

OHHHH

I see there's a new emoji

[hushed fossil]

Literally Skyrim meets valhiem vibe I’m getting

Cannot wait

[silk crane]

Far Cry meets Green Hell

Minecraft Meets Conan

[iron sleet]

Wow meets NMS

[silk crane]

Lol

[hushed fossil]

😆

[shy pasture]

Avatar: frontiers of pandora 🤣

[balmy pelican]

Hello meets games

[hushed fossil]

For real tho this is gonna be day 1 buy for me

[shy pasture]

Same

Watch them drop a release date and say 2024-2025 😭

[copper sand]

I hate i get so hyped easily lol

[shy pasture]

lol

[copper sand]

Can't stop watching the trailer

[shy pasture]

Im gonna level up by a ton talking about how hyped I am LOL

[minor pecan]

Feels like this game is partly in response to some core gameplay criticisms of NMS:
Single-biome planets, lackluster story, mid combat, barren planets, etc.

[weary elbow]

honestly i prefer they take as much time as they need, instead of repeating the 2016 incident

[copper sand]

Look at my day joined lol

[shy pasture]

Yeah thats also a fair point

[minor pecan]

We don’t know enough about a couple of these being addressed in LNF, but the first is evidently not the case for this game.

[shy pasture]

I undertsand where you're coming from

[weary elbow]

i dont mind it coming out in 2030 even, i just want it to be good

[shy pasture]

Oh wow

[wild cliff]

So one thing having an earth-sized game world should mean is, that we cannot travel it instantly, or even very quickly. It should mean something to go from one side to the other!

[iron sleet]

welcome!

[minor pecan]

Not necessarily.

[weary elbow]

i hope it does

[copper sand]

Thx 😄

[wild cliff]

Tell me more.

[balmy pelican]

2030 is pushing it a bit for me, but I agree

[weary elbow]

i do want long-range transportation to be harder than it is in NMS

[iron sleet]

Does it look like there are multiple moons? Or is it all the same?

[minor pecan]

Fast travel will prolly still exist in some form, but hopefully not as prominent as in Starfield.

[copper sand]

Won't seem the case with the dragon speed

[shy pasture]

I never even noticed

[iron sleet]

I mean if magic exists, teleportation could exist

[minor pecan]

If there is no fast travel at all, then Hello Games will need to ensure that traversal is fun and not just grueling or boring.

[shy pasture]

Maybe we might see combat abilities where we can teleport towards enemies too

[copper sand]

Thing is sci fi makes teleportation long distance and precise

[weary elbow]

nah, i mean like portals, and like that. dragons are fine, but my point is that i dont want it to be that easy to get to the other side of the planet in 3 minutes

[shy pasture]

but idk

[copper sand]

Not rly the case for fantasy

[tiny barn]

is it been years and the game coming out today now 😛 ? ugh what am I suppose to do for the next couple of years. Bad Sean Bad!

[wild cliff]

Yeah Starfield really blew it in that regard.

But... I agree there probably needs ot be some sort of quicker travel... but imagine for a minute if it was actually challenging to traverse across large distances in the world... what that could mean for the economy, gameplay, etc. I just find that kind of idea super compelling

[minor pecan]

With enough magic, it can still happen.

[copper sand]

It atleast left me happy despite the loss of my goty

[weary elbow]

i didnt see any nighttime shots that show any moon so idk

[shy pasture]

if there's magic are we gonna see gandalf in this game or what?

https://tenor.com/view/11-gif-27595507

[vapid plinth]

It wont be. My guess (which I've got a bet with @silk crane about) is that the "planet" will be thousands of different seperate regions you can 'warp' to that are all generated from seeds like nms.

[copper sand]

It made the awards worth it

[tiny barn]

yeah I can't believe NMS was not game of the year...

[copper sand]

Lol

What section was it finalist in again?

[tiny barn]

BG3, BG3, BG3, BG3, BG3, BG3, BG3, BG3, BG3,

[weary elbow]

thats probably what it is mechanically, but at least curbing the fast travel's range or something

[weary elbow]

community iirc

[vapid plinth]

Better dragons have better range? 😂

[torn trail]

Fast travel in a game like this can be very creative. If a player can specialize himself into a cartographer and another into a wizard they can work together to research and craft teleport spells

[vapid plinth]

Swap out different wing upgrade modules lmao

[weary elbow]

thats a great idea

[shy pasture]

I honestly dont care much about game of the year. Im to hyped about LNF to care

H Y P E

[tiny barn]

it's all about LNF!!!

[vapid plinth]

You gonna be hyped for a couple years

[weary elbow]

im not sure if LNF's gonna be that magic oriented but that would be cool

[tiny barn]

give me icon 😮

[shy pasture]

LOL

Yeah probably 🤣

[vapid plinth]

Remember valheim or whatever it was called. It reminds me of that

[weary elbow]

same

[iron sleet]

daytime shows plantary bodies

[weary elbow]

timestamp pls?

[copper sand]

We saw staffs i think

[weary elbow]

yup

[torn trail]

I CANNOT wait to cross the boundary of the initial biome to another, the sense of discovery in this seems like a major sell point

[weary elbow]

but i dont think we saw actual magic

[shy pasture]

Im gonna be yelling "YOU SHALL NOT PASS" whenever using that staff tho

[vapid plinth]

New autophage staff parts????

[tiny barn]

we saw staffs a couple times

[vapid plinth]

/s.

[weary elbow]

lol

[copper sand]

There were bows too no?

Maybe a class system

[weary elbow]

yes, but i dont think bows are magic.

ALSO, was that exploding arrows?!

[iron sleet]

rewatching now, they were just spherical buildings

[shy pasture]

I think so

Boom boom

[copper sand]

I don't think staffs will spit arrows XD

[weary elbow]

yeah, i cant see any moons.

[iron sleet]

I think my mind assumed moon because of NMS when i saw the round objects

[weary elbow]

shhhh, dont you come at me with that common sense of yours

[iron sleet]

which is fine, this isn't space related

[weary elbow]

fair's fair.

also, I didn't see anyone mention the FLAMING SWORD

[formal steppe]

hi, im very excited

is there a discord server i could join?

[weary elbow]

hi very excited, im Nexoi

[formal steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/squint-frog-frog-meme-gif-10917466560007578587

[copper sand]

No discord as of yet

[formal steppe]

ic ic

[shy pasture]

They better have dwarves in this game. And then have heavy metal dwarven music.

[iron sleet]

I mean they have bunny men in the game

So dwarf should be possible

[copper sand]

Magic beatbox

Bytebeat i mean

[mint dune]

So somebody lighted the fire anyways

[shy pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-and-stone-gif-21824862

Flaming sword is super cool

[frosty peak]

What are p requirements

*pc

FOR

No Light Fire

Oh... sorry...I mean light no fire

[weary elbow]

none listed

[copper sand]

Light no fire is unique but

[shy pasture]

You don't need any systems to play it 🤯

[copper sand]

A bit bland name

[silk crane]

No u

Gottem

[copper sand]

Lol

[weary elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/davy-jones-fall-gif-23525538

[iron sleet]

The name is fine

[shy pasture]

Gleam came out of nowhere with that LOL

[weary elbow]

i like the name; poetic

[silk crane]

Depends on the Lore too - might make more sense once we learn more

[shy pasture]

*Dies of death

[silk crane]

Fire is (in mythology) considered a gift of the gods - or stolen from the gods

[copper sand]

I'm saying i constantly forget the name despite the hype

[iron sleet]

I mean to be fair, you just learned the name

not even 24 hours ago

[silk crane]

No Mans Fire

[shy pasture]

LOL

[silk crane]

Light No Sky

[shy pasture]

Im calling it No Mans Fire from now on

[copper sand]

No light sky

[silk crane]

Lol

[weary elbow]

the next game will have "no" as the third word lol

[silk crane]

Yes!

[shy pasture]

Darken Yes Water

[frosty peak]

Let there be...
https://media.tenor.com/LoDcEb_kyNwAAAAM/ice-age-sid.gif

[shy pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-flames-hell-dying-gif-4796519

[frosty peak]

It's A Game NO

😂

[minor pecan]

This moment in the trailer is prolly the most NMS-like.

[frosty peak]

Ikr

But still look amazing

I think it's not as big as nms

[shy pasture]

fr

Oh no where near

[frosty peak]

But less map ... and more depth

[iron sleet]

yeah its only one planet

[shy pasture]

No mans sky map is as large as a galaxy

[frosty peak]

Maybe more planets will be added later on

[shy pasture]

Maybe like in a DLC?

[frosty peak]

I wish they could merge both

[silk crane]

No

Don't get greedy, no game has ever done an actual planet sized planet

[frosty peak]

No Man's sky...

LIGHT-FALL ... Uhhh dlc?!

[vapid plinth]

Where this come from

[frosty peak]

Seriously??
It's that big?

[shy pasture]

yes

[frosty peak]

Then I like Jupiter

😂

[shy pasture]

the size of earth I think

or am I wrong?

[silk crane]

That's what was said, time will tell

[copper sand]

Larger than earth

[vapid plinth]

They technically could would regions of procedurally generated land

[copper sand]

Apparently

[frosty peak]

Yep

As for houses

[last field]

technically Minecraft can be larger than the Earth if you travel far enough 😉

Although it's flat

[frosty peak]

Seema like...Minecraft....UPGRADED... VERSION 2

[shy pasture]

So I imagine it will also be like minecraft. where you create your own world thats randomly generated, and then you can invite friends?

[copper sand]

Minecraft don't loop

[frosty peak]

Houses are sooo Minecraft like

[vapid plinth]

You ever made it to the far lands?

[last field]

fair

[frosty peak]

Look nice as if RTX ON

[shy pasture]

Minecraft RTX on

[weary elbow]

0:46 in the trailer, one of the shots that go by really fast

[copper sand]

Minecraft but you can actually ride the dragon

[silk crane]

Well if we are going technically, so can gauntlet

But nothing after a certain distance will be there

You have to go back

[weary elbow]

i hope that its one big planet, that everyone is on. probably segmented into different areas, for each serverto handle

[frosty peak]

Well I am interlooper G-ready

😂

[frosty peak]

It's almost same as Neptune

At current cordinates

[silk crane]

Bigger than the universe, if you keep going

[copper sand]

Wonder how it'll be done. Gonna be complicated to render players at a border and not even in your server chunk

[weary elbow]

well, theres the borders, and at one point it just stops generating so not really

[weary elbow]

yup, definitely a challenge. looking forwards to see what HG is gonna do

[frosty peak]

That's WHERE nms begins

😂

[frosty peak]

Minecraft rival?

[weary elbow]

idk. as long as its good

[frosty peak]

Ender girl

[copper sand]

Minecraft still has limits to a bunch of servers

In terms of players

[frosty peak]

Stupid autocorrect

[iron sleet]

theres no way they can have all the players on one planet, right

[copper sand]

No way indeed

[shy pasture]

Ayo whats going on with autocorrect 🤨

[copper sand]

Gonna have to segment it some way

[weary elbow]

thats what they said its gonna be.

[frosty peak]

Too much swipes

[vapid plinth]

Nms has more square meters of land if you count all the systems and there land

[weary elbow]

there'll be quite a bit of technological trickery to make that possible

[frosty peak]

Anyways... hopefully I get to see it in its full glory

[vapid plinth]

Calculate the square meters of the entire observable irl universe

[frosty peak]

I love those shots....

[silk crane]

More than every game combined ever

[gritty thistle]

Totally buying this on day 1

[shy pasture]

It's at least above 2

[gritty thistle]

I hope its on par specs like nms.

[shy pasture]

2 square meters

[gritty thistle]

I hope its not super high reqs

Only game i know i cant run nice was starfield so im confident i can run this

[dapper cloak]

Woohooo!

[timber folio]

can't wait to climb to the Atlas and be told "hewwo liddle one did you miss me uwu"

[warm mountain]

https://lightnofire.com/

[shy pasture]

🤨 ayo

[timber folio]

eyy

[warm mountain]

[gritty thistle]

In totally gonna make a bunny girl in this

Im

[sturdy epoch]

[iron sleet]

I mean, don't get me wrong, if its really like the size of the earth
and you only have 50,000 people playing....

maybe we won't run into each other much

[stone rune]

This looks pretty great.

I was telling a friend just 2 weeks ago that I was thinkng of picking up Skyrim PC enhanced or loading up Witcher 3 again not for missions at all but just to wander the wilderness, wander the planet as far as it would allow me. This is basically HG's take on the kind of wandering I wanted to do -- but without any limit anywhere on a massive planet, it seems.

Oddly, it seems this is just what I was thinking I'd like to do. And here we are. I think I will dig this one pretty hard.

[wild cliff]

So.. BOATS. We're gonna need boats!

[neon quartz]

I saw a few boats in the trailer. rafts rather

[thin ore]

ooh new game

lots of NMS references too with the knowlege stone guy and the atlas looking thing at the end

[sturdy epoch]

Atlas but round

[thin ore]

lol so damn hyped ive watched this trailer like 30 times at this point

[warm mountain]

LNF utilizing extreme levels of furry bait. Am sold.

(would be sold already given it's a heccen Henlo VideoGames title)

[gritty thistle]

I was sold the moment i saw a furry character

Who am i kidding its hello games im quite proud of them

[sturdy epoch]

There's no release date right

[warm mountain]

correct

[plush sierra]

im hyped!

[gritty thistle]

Id rather suppourt a indie dev than a AAA dev

[iron sleet]

It appears there will already be other buildings and towns there, so its not like we'd all have to start from scratch

[gritty thistle]

I hope i can rp a bandit

:)

[copper sand]

Wonder if we'll actually see the big hand holding the logo at some point

There's a guy on it so maybe?

[stone rune]

So was any notion of a release window mentioned for LNF?

I can't find any mention

[silk crane]

Nope

Id guess not super long though, or they wouldn't have shown it

Late 2024 is what I'm guessing at

[stone rune]

Obv not this year. I'll bet maybe summer 24?

Oh late you think?

Maybe

[silk crane]

Yeah, october, November etc

I'd rule out August at 99%

Cause NMS anniversary

[stone rune]

ya

I'm getting more chuffed about this the more I watch the trailer. Having had my aforementioned wandering world exploration desire just very recently ( #1182531870613831740 message ), this seems perfectly aligned.

[silk crane]

Yessss

I'm going to be a nomad forever

[stone rune]

My recently upgraded CPU / mobo / RAM is up for it for sure. But ... might be a good time as it nears to consider replacing this GPU...

[silk crane]

Could be

I'll be ok, but I'm hoping this is also next gen consoles

Like my couch gaming

[stone rune]

I'd imagine it will do quite well on the latest, current consoles. Not even sure what the whsiperings are about the next generation or when it might arrive.

[copper sand]

Will be fire in vr

Even though there's no fire

[stone rune]

Innes has gone on a many months wilderness hike in various parts of the world. I follow him on Insta and see some amazing shots. I wonder if he was gathering info for the open-entire-world game lol??

[stone rune]

Surely, I'd say.

[tiny barn]

This is cringe lol

https://www.reddit.com/user/ApexFatality/

guys spamming a subreddit for the new game because I guess he did not get the name first and wants control lol

[sturdy epoch]

[tiny barn]

Now will have 2 splintered communities because they prob did not even take 10min to talk to the other subreddit lol

[sturdy epoch]

Reddit drama. Hard pass

[tiny barn]

haha

I really should stop using reddit tbh

[gritty thistle]

Gleam should make the new games subreddit

[tiny barn]

Takes too much of my time 😛

[stone rune]

I stopped paying into Reddit Gold recently, when they destroyed it

[tiny barn]

gleam is on timeout

gleam failed us with the steam deck page being down

[sturdy epoch]

Reddit had golf?

[stone rune]

er

fixed that. Gold.

[sturdy epoch]

That's funny cause my phone changed golf to gold

[stone rune]

That's better than alchemy!

[tiny barn]

lol

[sturdy epoch]

Yes. Finally a use for golf

[wide sage]

Yooo I take it we're gonna make an NMScord town?

It looks really cool

[sturdy epoch]

Only if I can raid it with my barbarian hordes

[torn trail]

https://tenor.com/view/ragnar-onurcem-gif-25325979

[sleek wharf]

I can't wait to see the combat.

[sturdy epoch]

[sleek wharf]

For combat I really want your companion to fight with you

Maybe your companion could have a skill tree or something

[minor pecan]

autocarrot moment

[woeful cave]

I want to hear what the planet is like

[sleek wharf]

Since this game will be fantasy I wonder if we will have fauna or environments like in the Avatar movie?

[velvet axle]

This looks absolutely glorious no notes. Except the first sentence of the steam blurb doesn't look gramatically correct. " about adventure, building, survival and exploration together."

Or is that just my brain not computing? 😛

But seriously, this looks like a blast. 😄

[lost sigil]

They put da Ark in the NMS

[inner hearth]

does this have more than 48 planets?

[velvet axle]

One planet.

[lost sigil]

It's one massive to-scale Fantasy version of Earth with dragons and shit, it looks cool

[inner hearth]

No Man's ARK: Survival Evolved

[lost sigil]

Yee, lol

[thin ore]

no mans valheim survival evolved lmao

[vapid plinth]

Now now don't go and make overhyped claims

[lost sigil]

[inner hearth]

trailer looks really interesting, ngl

[thin ore]

https://tenor.com/view/beautiful-gorgeous-gif-20062297

[vapid plinth]

We 100% will have procedurally generated dragons

I think I wanna change this bet gleam and I got going on

[half mulch]

Would love LNF VR

[wide sage]

I have a feeling that the pet breeding system from NMS will be brought in

[vapid plinth]

Bro im about to write out my exact speculation on the new game in a bit

And I bet I'll be right about it

[torn trail]

I hope they release a planetary view of the map

[woeful cave]

I wonder if there is one or if it gets generated as it's discovered

[tardy monolith]

Quite pumped up for actual combat

Also as said by others it does look like a hellogames verse is going on

[outer cliff]

yeah i think they gonna do connected things around procedural generation

like no man's sky light no fire and maybe other games that will be in this sorta universe

[vapid plinth]

Alright so my speculation is as follows:
*Same cinematic universe as NMS
*Procedurally generated planet with large separated regions that you can travel to. But it's not a seamless planet. Think star systems in nms.
*Regions will have specific biomes. Like the 4 or 5 we saw in the trailer.
*All creatures will be procedurally generated.
*Dragons will act like starships in nms. With different types and classes.
*Looks like there is a weather system implemented, however weather does not look to affect you when in flight.
*There will be procedurally generated dungeons and they will be tied to the Psuedo Atlas
*Building system will be similar to NMS where only uploaded bases will be able to be seen by other players.
*4 player coop.
*More tool options. A couple being a torch, axe, staff, sword, and others.
*Bunny race with a player hub similar to the Anomaly. I would even expand this one and say the hubs would be a mix of space stations and anomaly. With being only a few per region.

[tardy monolith]

There was lots of races

Badger?

Otter?

Then bunny and such

[outer cliff]

i think u will be able to fuse weapons with maybe fire cold etc

https://lightnofire.com/

[warm mountain]

Definitely will release next year.

Given NMS marketing, HG wouldn't dare to showcase the new title until every feature was basically solidified and ready to show.

Hence the game must be nearly ready feature wise and only need the final optimizations, qol, localization and other touches.

Also I recall Sean mentioning few years ago that they wouldn't want to do a lengthy marketing campaign for the new game like they did with NMS.

[outer cliff]

official website

[woeful cave]

Honeybadger don't give an F...

[hushed fossil]

Wonder how many people be able play on a world at once also this won’t be PvP like similar to ark with raiding or is it going for more pve exploring or we don’t know yet I don’t know what no man’s sky multiplayer was like

[outer cliff]

well no man's sky does 32 players

on one solar system

i expect maybe they double it to 64

[woeful cave]

PVP was a toggle, I suspect this will be the same

[outer cliff]

yeah

i expect a pvp toggle option

here the https://fxtwitter.com/lightnofire

[vapid plinth]

They did the dragons dirty

[stone rune]

I wonder if it will be in VR at launch? I wonder if it will utilize ray tacing hardware if present?

[vapid plinth]

If you look it's just NMS starships with a dragon skin bro 😭

[hushed fossil]

Do we know the playable races all I remember is seeing the rabbit people lol

[warm mountain]

The dragons remind me of that one Tod Howard parody song that mentioned how Starfield would have spaceships with dragon animations xD

😅

[woeful cave]

Rabbit, Otter, Badger, something with horns, possibly skeletons..

[vapid plinth]

You can literally see the takeoff animation when they show the birds

[outer cliff]

that why im almost sure light no fire use the no man's sky engine @vapid plinth

[vapid plinth]

I'm not mad about it I just can't not think about it lol

[tardy monolith]

Some sorta wolf

[outer cliff]

and in a way im glad they do

[vapid plinth]

Don't fix what ain't broke

[outer cliff]

its a very good idea too

and very smart

[vapid plinth]

100%

[outer cliff]

because what u improve in light no fire

[vapid plinth]

You see my region speculation?

[warm mountain]

Exactly!

Tbh I think it's more of a camerawork thing. The camera is way too stiff and ship-like.

If they did some interpolation or other smoothing, it would look waay better

[outer cliff]

u can improve in no man's sky

both games can benefit each other

in a way light no fire could make no man's sky be supported longer

[vapid plinth]

Idc I'm playing it either way. There's definitely a charm about nms games

[sturdy epoch]

Please god no avatar

[warm mountain]

Same! Will be instant buy

[woeful cave]

Just a hunch, but when LNF launches I think we'll see massive/serious improvements in NMS' engine and graphics. Right now they don't want to tip their hands

[warm mountain]

already wishlisted on steam. Wish I could just go to cryo sleep until the game releases

[vapid plinth]

Probably not

[sturdy epoch]

Doubt it. When it launches they will be focused on it and making sure the launch is smooth and fixing bugs and such

[tardy monolith]

2024 will be cool for fantasy

[outer cliff]

i expect some improvements alongside light no fire

[tardy monolith]

Dragons dogma 2 then this

[warm mountain]

Agreed, as sad as it might be... Things like multi-biome planet, boats, prettier graphics etc. will definitely be exclusive to LNF.

There's already so much similarity. It would hinder the marketing potential if all the things could be found from NMS

[vapid plinth]

Imagine you sell a red car right? And people LOVE that red car you make. But you have people that also would like to have a blue car instead. Your not gonna just rebuild a brand new car, you will just make your current cars blue as well.

[outer cliff]

also we can believe for sure this is gameplay

no pre rendered shit

[vapid plinth]

100 percent rafts will be lit

[outer cliff]

this looks gameplay for sure

[sleek wharf]

Avatar is so pretty and creative though

[outer cliff]

also i see no one mention it

light no fire in VR?

[sturdy epoch]

What's vr

[outer cliff]

virtual reality

no man's sky has vr

why not light no fire

[sturdy epoch]

Oh yeah that thing I will literally never be able to use

[woeful cave]

Maybe just the style of the game? More combat based than NMS, but that's a weak reason, I'd take my chances to see this in VR 😄

[outer cliff]

i can see it in vr

[sturdy epoch]

Guys it's a first look teaser they aren't going to list out everything it can do

[outer cliff]

man this shit in vr

flying a fucking dragon

[sturdy epoch]

They will probably have vr

[outer cliff]

ahhhhhh

im exicted

[warm mountain]

would look wayy too fancy if it was prerendered. Also I could notice tiiiny bit of pf that "nms engine" pop-in

😅

[outer cliff]

yeah

and everything bleeds no man's sky engine for me

the way things look

[woeful cave]

I'll be really surprised if this isn't out next year. Hype train choo choooo 🙂

[outer cliff]

like the first 30 seconds i could see yeah its engine and probably just straight up gameplay

[outer cliff]

im ok with it being 2025

even if GTA 6 coming soo 😬

[sturdy epoch]

Same model animations

[warm mountain]

upper cloud rendering tech from post NEXT era! The very early water rendering from nms prerelease footage

[outer cliff]

and that the good thing about having the same engine

[warm mountain]

We know for sure we can:

A. Walk
B. Swim
C. Ride creatures
D. Swing swords

[outer cliff]

what u upgrade and optimize in light no fire has big chance of going to no man's sky

[warm mountain]

yayayay hype

[vapid plinth]

And build

[outer cliff]

we can do like in zelda

[woeful cave]

Shoot bows

[outer cliff]

paraglide

even with multiple people

i saw two people using one paraglide

[vapid plinth]

It's just nms reskin yall gonna be disappointed if you overhype

[languid creek]

Come on baby Light No Fire

[warm mountain]

Yiss. Adapting to modern open world things that Zelda botw innovated on. Wonder if there's also that good old stamina climbing thing

[outer cliff]

thing is light no fire looks already quite developed

this doesnt look like a game in alpha

it looks like a game quite late in developement

[vapid plinth]

It's nms reskin

[outer cliff]

maybe

[vapid plinth]

It is

[outer cliff]

different genre game

could be more rpg focused

[woeful cave]

Yup, and lately Sean's just been posting emoji's before a NMS update drops. Seems they like to be really prepared before revealing something

[outer cliff]

its gonna be more combat focused i feel like

[warm mountain]

@outer cliff Here's my speculations regarding the "readyness" of the game

[vapid plinth]

Overhyping

[woeful cave]

Underhyping

[languid creek]

It’s going to be soooooooooooooooo good!!!

At least 100x better than NMS

AT LEAST

[vapid plinth]

Unrealistic

[warm mountain]

No reason to reinvent the wheel if only about a dozen people work on LNF.

The team has once written and optimized things and proven them to work. Would be insanity to simply rebuild the entire engine etc.

[vapid plinth]

Not complaining. I'm just stating an observation. I'm still getting the game

[warm mountain]

Same. A good observation tho

[vapid plinth]

All these people who think itll be some crazy seamless open world skyrim esque rpg are gonna be disappointed

Hello Games seems to have an overarching theme of discovery and exploration in their games

[outer cliff]

i could see it being more lore driven

[woeful crane]

Honestly, I'd be okay with an NMS reskin. I've played NMS for years without getting bored; A second run with all new visuals and such would be fun as well.

[warm mountain]

idk. Im just viewing everything from the devs perspective rather than consumers. Kinda having that good old release time victim syndrome resurging where the community fought for HG tooth and nail 😅

[vapid plinth]

This

[warm mountain]

Hence all defensiveness and corrections

[warm mountain]

It's what they say on the site too

[sturdy epoch]

Yeah doubt it will have much in the way of rpg

[vapid plinth]

Instead of glyphs for multitools I bet there will be coords for specific dungeons that drop certain procedural weapons

Calling it now

[warm mountain]

I can already imagine myself setting out for a big adventure after some legendary amulet that someone found in a dungeon from some coordinates

Heckin heck

[vapid plinth]

People be looking for s class dragons 😂

[warm mountain]

that perfect 42slot dragon

with all 4 supercharged slots

[woeful cave]

Looking forward to 3d printing some LNF stuff 😄

[warm mountain]

and perfect maneuverability

[vapid plinth]

Spot on 😂😂

[woeful cave]

Liiitttle worried where the storage compartment is..

[warm mountain]

Tail bag! tail bag!

[woeful crane]

Or swallow it.

[vapid plinth]

Ong I'm screenshotting all this for when we are right at launch

[warm mountain]

nom

[vapid plinth]

Bout to name gleam something nefarious when he loses this bet

[warm mountain]

I wanna find a short chubby dragon that looks silly when flying high in the air. And also a majestic one for some jealosity from players below

[woeful crane]

So...Shuttle and fighter?

[vapid plinth]

There are birds too

[warm mountain]

Really wish the experience would be more "closer to ground" whereas flying would be something that isn't immediately or so easily unlocked

and other more insane spells etc

[vapid plinth]

If you watch the trailer. The dragons do the same thing starship do when you fly over mountains lmfao

[warm mountain]

makes the act of achieving flight and seeing the world from a new perspective so much more rewarding

[woeful crane]

I'm waiting for my starter bird to be named Radiant Pillar.

[vapid plinth]

100%

Radiant Birb

[woeful crane]

Ringneck Pheasant. It crashes into things. A lot.

[warm mountain]

I just imagine Sean singing Supermoon as the dragon flies

[vapid plinth]

shields down

[warm mountain]

Magical voice echoing gently
"Dragon scales down"

[vapid plinth]

I hope that the way to get new ships - I mean dragons - will be collecting eggs from nests

[warm mountain]

No free slots in bag inventory

[vapid plinth]

Have it to be where you can use something like the distress towers to find nest locations

[warm mountain]

MaNa ReChArGeD!

Evil Spirit Interceptors Incoming!

[woeful cave]

Goldpieces...received

[vapid plinth]

I bet the pseudo atlas will suffer from the same problem nms atlas does

[woeful crane]

Every time someone says "pseudo atlas" I think "Pseudo Echo", and Funkytown plays in my head.

[vapid plinth]

I'm the only one referring to it as that rn

[wide sage]

I disagree with a few things here but being in the same universe (HGverse?) makes a lot of sense

[vapid plinth]

Like what

[woeful crane]

So you're the culprit.

[wide sage]

Mostly about the seamlessness and how dragons work

[vapid plinth]

Alright I'll remind you when I'm right once it releases

The only thing I don't know how it will work is freighters

Like what are we gonna use to showcase our dragon ships with???

[woeful crane]

Dragon lair freighters.

[wide sage]

I feel like the mounts will work like a mix of animal companions and ships

[vapid plinth]

Probably and that's a bummer

Being able to summon them wherever but not able to see all of them at once will be sad

But the dragons 100% won't follow yoi

[wide sage]

I mean mostly in terms of eggs, traits, breeding etc

[vapid plinth]

Rewatch the trailer. They are stationary when grounded. They are starship

[wide sage]

Oh yeah I agree there

I mean just in terms of how you get them and might be able to trade etc

[vapid plinth]

Can we salvage dragon scrap????

Take them to the dragon scrapper?

Bro that'd be morbid af

[wide sage]

Dismantle them for glue 😭

[vapid plinth]

Nah swapping out hearts and eyeballs and stuff bro

[wide sage]

Fr though it'd be cool to be able to trade dragon eggs from a cool dragon you've found

[woeful crane]

Might be armor swap and such. And I'd hazard you'd have a dragon trader that you could sell them to.

[wide sage]

Especially if they're from a dangerous region or something

[woeful crane]

Like a used car dealership.

[wide sage]

Imagine being a used dragon salesman

[woeful cave]

Jerry's Used Dragon Emporium

[vapid plinth]

Living ships. They'll have intestines that improve flight efficiency

Swap them out for s class intestines

[woeful crane]

"Come on down to Crazy Eddie's Dragonarium! We got a dragon to fit any rider! Bringeth thy kids!"

[oblique slate]

sean looked absolutely elated at the game awards

i love him so much
he's got a level of enthusiasm that other game devs seem to lack

[vapid plinth]

He's no longer verbally abuse by keyboard warriors

[oblique slate]

aye

and may those who still bring up the launch of nms and still shit on the game never get any bitches

like bro

IT'S BEEN DAMN NEAR 7 YEARS

WORSE GAME COMPANIES EXIST

WORSE GAMES HAVE RELEASED AND DISAPPOINTED THOSE WHO WERE HYPED FOR THEM

FIND SOME OTHER GAME TO SHIT ON

[wide sage]

The aesthetic looks so cool. It's in the same vein as the e3 NMS almost, with a fantasy spin

Also I wonder if that floating house could be a freighter equivalent lol

[visual gorge]

Okay I have a theory

I think Sean is planning to fuse the two games into one project

[wide sage]

I do honestly think they are going to be connected somehow

[visual gorge]

Just the way he talks about his vision, I think he's using NMS to build out the galaxy aspect, and using light no fire to expand on the single world detail

[oblique slate]

that's quite obvious with the big red orb thing

[wide sage]

Maybe through all of this stuff about a new Atlantid to replace the Atlas, or it'll be within the NMS universe or something

If the void mother returns and starts a new world or something

[oblique slate]

hold on
perhaps the red orb in LNF is

another being like the atlas?

[visual gorge]

They're siblings

[wide sage]

That's what I'm thinking. The monoliths have a similar aesthetic too

[weary bloom]

new simulation let's go

[oblique slate]

it's quite obvious it's important, as its reveal is almost identical to the atlas, with it showing up at the end of the trailer

[oblique slate]

also there's the fact that there's like

monolith golems

[visual gorge]

I mean just imagine the level of detail in LNF, on every planet in NMS

[vapid plinth]

I'm sorry but no those are L takes

[visual gorge]

You think so?

How come?

[oblique slate]

it's very unlikely that this game will have a launch at nms

hello games learned from their mistakes

[wide sage]

Yeah I'm only really on about a canonical connection

[visual gorge]

I mean, I wouldn't expect to see that from them for like 10-15 years

[vapid plinth]

Complicates the lore too much. And we are still far off from games with seamless planets

[visual gorge]

I'm thinking like long term plans

[wide sage]

It'd be cool to see a similar mythos to NMS explored through a fantasy lens

[visual gorge]

Ah yeah I guess..

[blissful vault]

LNF looks fun

[visual gorge]

That doesn't really like up does it

[blissful vault]

can't wait tbh

[vapid plinth]

Simplest solution is that there is NO connection OR that the pseudo and true atlas are the same

[visual gorge]

Fantasy vs sci-fi

[wide sage]

I'm mainly thinking that it occupies a different simulation to the NMS universe, but it's still in the same multiverse(?), like how our earth is supposedly a simulation there too

[visual gorge]

Altho to be fair, I don't necessarily mean that they'll straight up combine LNF and NMS. My theory is more that they're using each project to learn, and long term, their vision is to create a brand new project that essentially combines the two

[vapid plinth]

This is most likely answer

[wide sage]

HGverse ftw

[wide sage]

I do think that some features will get brought back into NMS at least, like water shaders (pls Sean)

[vapid plinth]

It probably won't be super touched on. Like we wont get explicit confirmation. Just vague statements alluding to the existence of other universes

[wide sage]

Probably yeah. I'm thinking it'll be along the lines of how Half Life and Portal reference each other

Like they're the same universe but you only know if you look hard enough

[vapid plinth]

Probably

[warm mountain]

Hello there, good old ship speed line particle! Been staring at those since 2016. Could recognize them in my dreams!

Nothing wrong about that. Just feel a bit too scifi/spacelike for a fantasy rpg

[vapid plinth]

S Class Dragons confirmed

[warm mountain]

Living Dragons

My prediction!

Fighters = Sleek speedy dragons
Haulers = Big fat dragons
Explorers = Small light dragons
Shuttles = Ugly dragons
Exotic = Rare looking dragons with fancy body features

Sentinel ships = Dragons used by some enemy race.

[outer cliff]

light no fire kinda like an expedition

u start on the same planet

difference u cant leave the planet

[oblique slate]

what if it's something like EVE online, where it's all one server on the same planet
unlikely as that would require a hell of a lot of resources

[outer cliff]

why not

[oblique slate]

iirc EVE needs a super computer to run its universe or something

[outer cliff]

i remember sean saying they using i think microsoft servers for multiplayer

like the azure servers?

[vapid plinth]

Simplest solution is typically the right solution

[warm mountain]

I suspect they use the same pseudo-mmo approach that they do with NMS.

Player structures and other stuff saved on servers. Instancing done dynamically based on location.

[oblique slate]

most likely

[warm mountain]

Everything giving an illusion of one huge server

will be good enough

[outer cliff]

the more i think about it the more i think ur right @warm mountain

about light no fire releasing next year

[vapid plinth]

Early 2025

[oblique slate]

ye

[warm mountain]

would hope for more like increased instance sizes, guilds etc.

[tardy monolith]

guilds

didnt think of that

[blissful vault]

i have a feeling it'll be like an mmo thing but an entire planet

maybe

[warm mountain]

A perfect thing for a huge shared RPG world. How else do you coordinate big dungeon raids or village builds

👀

[tardy monolith]

magic is a given, there was the staff, sword with fire going on, then the floating stuff

[warm mountain]

Sparky sparks

a reasonable and more ground magic would be lovely, rather than huge spells that barrage meteors and lasers from the sky.

[vapid plinth]

Ends up being a mining beam 💀

[warm mountain]

I'll die if I grab a staff and it shoots a beam of mining energy

[tardy monolith]

lmao

[vapid plinth]

Geology cannon

[blissful vault]

just in that one part of the trailer with people building, there was at least like 8 people

[warm mountain]

Yup. I've seen a max of 8 as well.
Then there's the clip where they're hunting some animals with bows. There are 5 people

so definitely more than 4

[tardy monolith]

6 or 8 riding the beasts

desert or similar

[blissful vault]

so awesome

12 people is nuts too, working on it

lol

[warm mountain]

32 is my realistic bet if they utilize everything learned and optimized from NMS.
Unrealistic expectations and wishes range from 64 to 100 or more

[vapid plinth]

B b but it's gonna be a mmorpg where EVERYONE can see EVERYONE

/s.

[blissful vault]

I wonder if it'll be servers like DayZ

[vapid plinth]

No

[blissful vault]

so how would they do it

[warm mountain]

💀 the press will grab a random reddit post hyping this type of stuff and spin it into a "Promise by Sean"

[vapid plinth]

Like they did with nms

[blissful vault]

hm

[warm mountain]

Microsoft Azure cloud service for player data like buildings etc.

Proximity based Peer to peer instancing for low server costs.

Like NMS basically

The studio literally has just one network/server guy.

[blissful vault]

interesting

[vapid plinth]

Imagine this Barb

You know how you have a massive galaxy right? Split into millions of star systems yeah?

[warm mountain]

Relatively cheap way to upkeep servers whilst offering a rich and deep enough online presence for players.

[blissful vault]

yes

[frail forge]

@visual gorge

[warm mountain]

Any plans for Light No Fire discord server?

[vapid plinth]

You can't see every planet. But you know each star on the galaxy map is a system

[warm mountain]

👀👀

[vapid plinth]

Right

Still following?

[warm mountain]

Darkness, No Ice Cubes

[frail forge]

Maybe... We'll pin a link to one here when there is one in place

[blissful vault]

yes

[vapid plinth]

You got insider info ? I'm making bets

[blissful vault]

nah

admins here aren't hg staff

[frail forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-mantzoukas-betting-gamble-place-your-bets-the-house-gif-8225040

[vapid plinth]

So instead of a galaxy. Imagine it's a medieval fantasy world. And instead of star systems it's regions

[blissful vault]

i see
i see..

[warm mountain]

IC

[blissful vault]

i like fantasy

[warm mountain]

me too

especially when it doesn't suffer from main character syndrome

[vapid plinth]

Gleam gonna be renamed something nefarious once he loses the bet I hope you know

[warm mountain]

love to be a nobody who builds their own destiny rather than predetermined hero who saves everything

Red No Hot

Gleam No Singularity

[vapid plinth]

It's a secret

[warm mountain]

Sean No Murray

Hello, No Games ;-;

[vapid plinth]

Kimetsu no yaiba

[tardy monolith]

expecting eventually more earths with more biased biomes orientations

[vapid plinth]

No

[blissful vault]

right

[vapid plinth]

Well yes

Like how they did with galaxies

[blissful vault]

more planets?

i hope not

[tardy monolith]

like dark world / shadow land version and such

[blissful vault]

an entire planet is a big undertaking

[vapid plinth]

Nah it'd be like harsh/normal/lush/or dead

[tardy monolith]

it is but just like nms you already got galaxies

255 right

[blissful vault]

like actually making it fleshed out

they can go down

and up

underground areas

eventually maybe adding floating islands

etc

[tardy monolith]

thought it was fully proc gen

[blissful vault]

stuff like that

yeah i don't know if there is any underground areas though, didn't recognize one

i don't see why they couldn't eventually

[vapid plinth]

It is

[warm mountain]

The planet is. The content and gameplay rich elements must logically be handcrafted. You can't make quests and meaningful progress with just Proc gen

[copper sand]

Nms engine very much had caves

[vapid plinth]

They did with nms

[copper sand]

Working ones

[warm mountain]

Exactly

[vapid plinth]

It said it right in the trailer it was. People gonna be in denial

[blissful vault]

yes exactly
they could do something like that here

or do an area like siofra river in elden ring

just some underground area is what i'm getting at

[copper sand]

But make it so the caves are full on dungeons XD

[warm mountain]

Set on a fantasy planet the size of Earth, it brings the depth of a role playing game to the freedom of a survival sandbox.

A truly open world, with no boundaries, at a scale never attempted before. A massively varied and dense planet filled with immersive biomes, unique enemies and valuable resources to discover.

Thick with lore, mystery and a constant fight for survival. Inspired by the adventure, charm and imagination that we love from classic fantasy.

This literally screams so much deep meaningful gameplay content

[jagged moat]

So Sean is a light mode user...

[warm mountain]

And as how every fantasy world, there's definitely going to be some type of Hell/Oblivion/Dark dimension, maybe in a future expansion if not on release.

So people craving for different "planets" will have their fill

Or like the elder scrolls series where there are multiple plains/dimensions

[vapid plinth]

Atlas dimension

[copper sand]

My eyes

[blissful vault]

another planet literally just wouldn't make sense with this game

[warm mountain]

And yeah. Underground area! gimme that traditional glowy mushroom huge cave system thing

[vapid plinth]

Then just call it a realm

[blissful vault]

the draw of the game is it being the size of earth lol

[warm mountain]

Oh yee. Realms, dimensions, plains

[wild cliff]

So... do you think what we have so far, we could call it "massively multiplayer"?

[warm mountain]

all works

[blissful vault]

see this would make sense tho

[vapid plinth]

Lol no

[blissful vault]

just wouldn't be as big as the original planet

[vapid plinth]

You could. Just like they did with nms...

[blissful vault]

like this is supposed to be bigger than anything attempted ever

[vapid plinth]

Don't drink the koolaid

[warm mountain]

Or Sean's own term for NMS, "A lot of players online".

My own term would be "pseudo-mmo".

They might wanna avoid calling this one an mmo despite having relatively huge online aspects

[blissful vault]

it's not gonna be the size of a nms planet

[copper sand]

Except nms and every voxel ever

[blissful vault]

it'll be bigger lol

and more fleshed out

better

[wild cliff]

"We're going to let everyone play in it together" is how Sean worded it.

[wild cliff]

Yep agreed!

[vapid plinth]

Lmao your drinking the kool-aid.

[wild cliff]

No sir. Just pointing out this will be different than NMS and trying to have a discussion on how we interpret info we have thus far.

[vapid plinth]

I'm @ing all these L theories when it releases

[copper sand]

Be hard to do if it's complete open world no loading zone

[vapid plinth]

What he said and what was literally shown to us are 2 different things.

[warm mountain]

Funnily enough, NMS planets are actually relatively small in comparison to actual planets. Like... really really small. The largest ones are more like moon sized in reality.

[blissful vault]

yeah that's my point

they won't have multiple planets for that reason

its gonna be huge

[vapid plinth]

And you could interpret that statement multiple ways

[wild cliff]

He's earned credit from me at this point.

[blissful vault]

maybe "dimensions"

[warm mountain]

NMS mountains are like... little hills in comparison to LNF's "real mountains"

[vapid plinth]

People online =/= mmo

[blissful vault]

but not another whole planet

[outer cliff]

yeah light no fire planet could be the size of maybe 10 moons of no man's sky

and i wonder if sean said in a way that they want to develop no man's sky for the next 10 years too

[vapid plinth]

It will be planet sized

[jagged moat]

Sounds much larger than even the largest NMS planets

[wild cliff]

Yep. This is very interesting... video game mountains are tiny tiny. There are technical reasons. If they really do this and provide that kind of scale, that's something new.

[wild cliff]

Those are tiny. This will be earth-sized

[copper sand]

Would it be possible to mix server zones to make players play in two at the same time? Looks like one of the only way.

[outer cliff]

like i said

[vapid plinth]

It will most likely be isolated regions

[outer cliff]

10 planets of no man's sky into one

calculate

[vapid plinth]

Nope

[jagged moat]

Moon != planet

[outer cliff]

calculate the size of 10 bigest planets in no man's sky into one u probably will have the size of the light no fire planet

witch is huge

[jagged moat]

and even the planets are pretty small tbh

[outer cliff]

that why i said 10

[vapid plinth]

Nope

[outer cliff]

i could have said 20

50

100

whatever the fuck

[warm mountain]

Usually small scale of things is there for gameplay reasons.

Realistic scale is way harder to justify with gameplay so HG must be really confident about this. It's much harder to fill it with content

[outer cliff]

i think its much harder to fill a universe with content

than an entire planet

[vapid plinth]

Procedurally generated regions and biomes all connected on a world map. But not seamless

[warm mountain]

It's already hard to justify the size of NMS planets when it comes to gameplay they offer

[outer cliff]

wrong game

that starfield

😛

[blissful vault]

you could tell sean was very nervous talking about LNF

probably has ptsd (not literally lmfao)

poor guy

[outer cliff]

he is always like this lol

[blissful vault]

i hope it does well

[vapid plinth]

Wrong

[outer cliff]

🙄

[warm mountain]

Kinda odd they chose Sean yet again for a pr person. He's a shy introvert. Always has been mega nervous on stage. Even with the very earliest NMS announcement

[vapid plinth]

Sorry

[outer cliff]

first time i mute someone on this server

[blissful vault]

gotta get through your fears one way or another

[outer cliff]

in 6 years

[blissful vault]

i respect sean

[vapid plinth]

Because I disagreed with you? Lol

[outer cliff]

i think they are confident

[blissful vault]

pretty sure he said it was gonna be seamless

[outer cliff]

and we all know as no man's sky players that this is true gameplay

i mean no man's sky is quite seamless

im sure light no fire could be even more seamless

[warm mountain]

Me too. Even tho Sean doesn't like being on stage, he's the face of HG. I couldn't imagine anyone else

[vapid plinth]

@warm mountain these kids about to be upset when they let their hype gets them let down

[blissful vault]

don't remember him saying there will be regions, i remember him saying there will be NO boudnaries

[jagged moat]

yes and "bigger than Earth"

[outer cliff]

i think they generate the whole planet

[outer cliff]

maybe not bigger in size?

maybe in density?

variety?

[blissful vault]

think so

[outer cliff]

even if earth is varied as fuck

probably one of the most varied planet in the universe

[vapid plinth]

So many unrealistic speculations lol

[outer cliff]

#based

[blissful vault]

sean's got this

i trust

[jagged moat]

Lol no, the context was clearly size, that's what bigger means.
You don't say lead is bigger than steel when talking density

[outer cliff]

i would take sean words with fucking salt

[warm mountain]

the world of LNF is, in other words, HECCEN THICC

[outer cliff]

even if i trust him

but i expect the planet to be the size of earth

maybe more bigger

[jagged moat]

Im not familiar with that type of salt

[vapid plinth]

Bunch of L takes

[blissful vault]

ok

[outer cliff]

we have been for a long time lol

[blissful vault]

im just repeating what was said

[jagged moat]

Same, I even provided evidence lol

[copper sand]

Server will allow a million players to play at the same time all on a single generated round jupiter fr

Lol

[blissful vault]

awesome

i can't wait

[vapid plinth]

Bro like I cant with this channel sometimes. Crazy out of context claims

[outer cliff]

i bet some no man's sky modders are already like damn

im gonna mod for this game too

[copper sand]

Tbf a bunch of it was indeed just promised at game awards

Bigger than earth

[vapid plinth]

Hear earth-sized? That MUST mean it's a MMORPG with handcrafted everything and bigger than earth but also has in depth rpg systems and seamless

[blissful vault]

what

[warm mountain]

Same. Not because of distrust towards Sean.

Rather because Sean is a developer. Not a PR person. Sean is not professional with marketing talk. Sean tends to talk about their projects more like dev to dev.

Even on stage I could see Geoff's body language trying to signal Sean to chill a bit as he talked.

Not because Sean would try to intentionally over promise or anything but because Sean is simply excited about the creative and ambitious endeavour they are yet again passionate of

[vapid plinth]

Right but the thing is it's more reasonable to assume it's similar to NMS galaxies.

[outer cliff]

exactly i dont see him overpromising but he is talking with his vision how he sees the game

[warm mountain]

Nothing wrong in that. It's a joy to see someone who's that passionate about their work

[copper sand]

"All players playing on the same planet"

Leads to speculation

[outer cliff]

please have a prayer emote in the game

damn the fucking rp in light no fire

[vapid plinth]

"All players playing in the same galaxy"

See what I mean?

[blissful vault]

it'll be done the same way as nms

you can still meet random people in nms

[warm mountain]

What type of speculation? About the networking solution? Instancing? Or player behavior

[vapid plinth]

This

[copper sand]

Was that promised for nms? It's an universe at base

[blissful vault]

it's just rare cuz it's so damn big

[vapid plinth]

There was a LOT promised on day 1 lol

[outer cliff]

a procedural generated universe where everything is procedural and unique

sorta

kinda?

[copper sand]

Everything is unique is a stretch but not really the universe part

[vapid plinth]

Multiplayer 100% promised Day 1 we didn't get that

[blissful vault]

by procedural for LNF, it's most likely just talking about the planet itself
not buildings and such

[outer cliff]

yeah still need to work on that

[blissful vault]

but hell idk

[outer cliff]

also i think people are gonna expect crazy building and cities etc

[vapid plinth]

Look yall can keep drinking the delulu juice. I'm just telling yall to keep it real or yall gonna be mad upset when you took his words and overhyped it

[blissful vault]

cities?

i wasn't even shown one

[outer cliff]

16 😆

[blissful vault]

it's "an unexplored earth"

meaning nobody settled there

[outer cliff]

i mean there might castles or abandoned stuff

[vapid plinth]

Imma watch this and follow up after work

[blissful vault]

idk

only buildings i saw were being built

[jagged moat]

I suggest that would have been the place to start, with Sean's actual claims

[copper sand]

The complex rpg part is up to interpretation of course but the everybody playing on the same planet is a statement nonetheless

[hushed fossil]

Can’t wait to run around the world XD

[blissful vault]

wait so bro didn't even watch it and was calling it L takes?

[vapid plinth]

Yeah I'll start with actually watching it and not taking two words out of context

[blissful vault]

crazy stuff

[outer cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341

[hushed fossil]

This game was the only one that stuck out to me

[blissful vault]

Blade game looks fucking sick

[vapid plinth]

I've got all my speculations saved so when the game releases I can rub it in yalls facesssssssss

[blissful vault]

jeez

weird guy

have fun w that

[copper sand]

Complex of being right

[hushed fossil]

👀

[copper sand]

Jk

[vapid plinth]

100%

[jagged moat]

I actually watched it before I commented and am not misrepresenting the context lol
But hey, that's just me...

[blissful vault]

bro is plain stupid

holy shit

[hushed fossil]

You think LNF will have a good story ?

[copper sand]

Damn let's not go call name now

[vapid plinth]

W

[blissful vault]

Maybe, they didn't show any story elements off

[outer cliff]

would be nice greg buchanan does the story for light no fire

[vapid plinth]

Can get banned for name calling