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[frail forge]

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Last Updated: 1:48pm 27-Aug-2023 UTC by redhottrouble

https://youtu.be/jKQem4Z6ioQ

[gloomy stream]

Heyo

[unkempt fog]

Eurogamer: No Man's Sky studio unveils procedural fantasy planet adventure Light No Fire

How do you follow-up a game that attempts to simulate an entire universe for your exploratory enjoyment? Hello Games has just answered that very question with the reveal of its next title, Light No Fire, a co-operative adventure set on a procedurally generated fantasy planet.

Specifics are limited at present, but Hello describes Light No Fire as a game about "adventure, building, survival and exploration together" set on an ancient fantasy planet the size of Earth, that "brings the depth of a role playing game to the freedom of a survival sandbox".

The planet itself is procedurally generated, offering a "truly open world, with no boundaries at a scale never attempted before", consisting of "immersive biomes, unique enemies and valuable resources to discover". It's all inspired by classic fantasy - "lore, mystery, and a constant fight for survival" are promised - and it'll see players teaming up to "carve a life together", exploring and surviving, constructing persistent buildings and communities, and more.

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[frail forge]

[shy pasture]

Woohoo! So excited for this game!

[gloomy stream]

I saw Rabbit People

[woeful cave]

I saw a skeleton player with tiny skeleton pals.

Also, wishlist it

[shy pasture]

Been wanting to play a NMS styled medieval game for a while

[jagged moat]

This looks amazing

[shy pasture]

I’m gonna definitely pre order

[gloomy stream]

The building looked sick with the bricks forming.

[shy pasture]

Fr

[frail forge]

It looks so friggin goooood

[woeful crane]

Any mention of a release date?

[frail forge]

[light talon]

soon

[jagged moat]

Sean looked utterly giddy lol

[shy pasture]

Imagine if it were 2026

[gloomy stream]

Did Sean mention how long they've been working on it?

[oblique slate]

BRUH I AM FREAKING THE F*$*@ OUT

[frail forge]

lol right? friggin loved every bit of it

[oblique slate]

[shy pasture]

Same!

[severe parcel]

5 years

[oblique slate]

IT'S NEARLY MIDNIGHT WHERE I'M AT

[gloomy stream]

nice

How long had they been working on NMS when the hype began?

[woeful cave]

Just need a release date.

[robust spire]

My hype meter is full midnight 👀👀👀👀👀

[frail forge]

[shy pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/sean-murray-head-explode-insane-mind-blown-gif-12139814

[analog dawn]

DRAGON! XD

[shy pasture]

YESS

wait that reminds me

[jagged moat]

I'll probably pre-order which is rare for me lol

[analog dawn]

Maybe i may too, but i'll wait for few more trailers

But you seem to be playing as different kind of animals? I saw antelope, bunnies, and some hidden in hoods

[jagged moat]

He said "bigger than Earth"

[analog dawn]

If so, its exactly the game i want

[woeful cave]

Mountains higher than anything on earth, too

[analog dawn]

Just let me be a lizard or dragonoid, xD

[frail forge]

[jagged moat]

This was noteworthy imo
MP from the ground up

[oblique slate]

sean murray, you absolute bastard
I was shooting for a reasonable sleep schedule tonight and you drop this

i love you

[analog dawn]

XD

[oblique slate]

[cosmic heath]

Release date when? 😭

[woeful cave]

Will have to watch that on slower speed to catch all the things

[shy pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/hype-gif-25972342

The hype is here

OMG

[analog dawn]

Replace that starfield to LNF xD

[shy pasture]

Way too flashy

[oblique slate]

kinda flashy

ye

[shy pasture]

WOOHOOO

[tiny barn]

website: https://lightnofire.com/
Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2719590/Light_No_Fire/

Steam

Light No Fire

Light No Fire is a game about adventure, building, survival and exploration together. Set on a fantasy planet the size of Earth, it brings the depth of a role playing game to the freedom of a survival sandbox.A Multiplayer EarthCarve a life together. Meet players from across the globe, build a life, explore and survive together. Construct persis...

[shy pasture]

Alright I must pause my hype and resume boring homework

[robust spire]

I must sleep for I am ancient and require rest

[gloomy stream]

I need brick building to actually look like this in game

[languid creek]

Combat?

[tiny barn]

Sean and Earth size omg lol

[woeful cave]

Sweettooth? That you?

[tiny barn]

510.1 million km² is Earth lol

I just hope they can find way to continue to update the world and not stick to the world gen forever in a sense. I have a feeling he will turn the game into the best MMO ever since they been really decent with NMS updates I can imagine them doing every 3 months content lol

[woeful crane]

As long as it's not the Twisted Metal one.

[cunning comet]

alright, i've watched the trailer. hit me with all the shared universe conspiracy theories

[woeful cave]

Otter? Seal Team?

[tiny barn]

Sean plays the god in the game.

[woeful crane]

Could be a different Atlas, or an older sim.

[grave needle]

Friend entity @analog dawn

[woeful crane]

I saw a giant with the universal on button on its' head.

[grave needle]

We can fly on dragons... yay!

[cunning comet]

I've had my running wild fan theory that the thigns in NMS slowly become more biological over time, and some of the things I saw looked very much like they were inspired by some of the same Atlassian architecture in NMS

[grave needle]

Shared universe... woooo!

[languid creek]

Prequel?

mayhaps?

[woeful crane]

It implies a post-apocalypse world.

[languid creek]

Before the sentinels???

[grave needle]

It's a single planet sim instead of a universal sim. Could be a prequel.

[tiny barn]

Source Steam 12/07/2023:

Light No Fire is a game about adventure, building, survival and exploration together. Set on a fantasy planet the size of Earth, it brings the depth of a role playing game to the freedom of a survival sandbox.

A Multiplayer Earth
Carve a life together. Meet players from across the globe, build a life, explore and survive together. Construct persistent buildings and communities, or strike out alone to discover the world for others.

A Procedural Earth
A truly open world, with no boundaries at a scale never attempted before. A massively varied and dense planet filled with immersive biomes, unique enemies and valuable resources to discover.

A Fantasy Earth
Light No Fire presents you with an ancient earth to uncover. One where you're not the hero. Thick with lore, mystery and a constant fight for survival. Inspired by the adventure, charm and imagination that we love from classic fantasy.

An Unexplored Earth
Every mountain can be climbed, and below them lie endless vistas, oceans and continents perhaps no others have seen. Who will climb the tallest mountains, who will find the deepest sea? Set sail across vast oceans and rivers, ride wild beasts through fantastical landscapes, fly dragons over undiscovered landscapes.```

[cunning comet]

Maybe after the ||16 minutes have passed|| the earth becomes the ||final simulation||

[shy pasture]

That’s what I was thinking too

[languid creek]

or a sequel....?

[shy pasture]

Possibly that too

[woeful crane]

Or a different Atlas iteration.

[tiny barn]

"Set sail across vast oceans and rivers"

[languid creek]

Red ball at end very Atlasy

[cunning comet]

Or some open ended interpretation that the Anomaly eventually disconnects and becomes the planet?

[tiny barn]

did we see boats haha, I have to watch again the hype keeps me loosing info

[cunning comet]

so many weird ass theories I could come up with now

[woeful cave]

Building on top of the mountain.. nice

[grave needle]

That's a freaking...

[cunning comet]

The mountains look incredible

[tiny barn]

they show that ugly building close up

[grave needle]

Dragon

[woeful crane]

Gotta store yetis somewhere.

[tiny barn]

silly players meta gaming not using phsyics right 😛

[languid creek]

anyone see weapons?

[cunning comet]

honestly, some of the best mountains i've seen in a game, so it's incredible if theyre proc gen

[grave needle]

Staves

[shy pasture]

I saw a torch on a mountain and thought it was the eye of Sauron LMAO 😂

[cunning comet]

I saw someone shoot an exploding arrrow i think

[grave needle]

lol

[languid creek]

hmmm me like

[languid creek]

Swords!!!1

[shy pasture]

Oohhhhj

[tiny barn]

boats!

[cunning comet]

plasma launcher bow lol

[shy pasture]

Yessssss!

[tiny barn]

.

[woeful crane]

The bunnies all have shields, too.

[languid creek]

The Witcher?

[woeful cave]

Bow attack on animals..

[cunning comet]

The Redwall game we've always wanted

[woeful crane]

Shields imply something to protect against.

[grave needle]

Bow and arrow

[languid creek]

Dang this gonna be tight

[tiny barn]

imagine they went all crazy and made a none combat game. I would cry haha

[shy pasture]

Can’t wait

[woeful cave]

Maybe that? 😄

[regal geode]

guys it's shrek
#off-topic-bond-james-bond message

[grave needle]

We get bows! Wooooo!

Sword!

[regal geode]

yay

[grave needle]

Omg!

[frail forge]

[shy pasture]

HOLY CRAP!

[languid creek]

Wha Skyrim was meant to be

[languid creek]

Dude

[tiny barn]

those these crabs ;)? https://youtu.be/LDU_Txk06tM?t=72

[woeful crane]

"My name is Oliver Queen. I spent seven years in a sim..."

[languid creek]

That looks amazing

[grave needle]

Hahahahaha!

And definitely a sword!

[woeful crane]

You know I'll be using a bow and saying "You have failed this city!"

[tiny barn]

sword that lights up for orcs

[grave needle]

Yeah! Blue sword! Omigawsh! @frail forge look!

Is that a birb?

[frail forge]

omygoodness that is soooo friggin cute

[frail forge]

oooh that's kickass!

[woeful cave]

Yeah I want that robin bird mount 😄

[woeful crane]

"I dare ya to press it!"

[grave needle]

YOOOOOO!

Yo!

[woeful cave]

😱

[regal geode]

bro has a log

[grave needle]

Whoa!

[regal geode]

spooky

[grave needle]

We carry logs... We carry logs.

[woeful cave]

One on the left of the rock appears as they're walking

[regal geode]

kinda...

[woeful crane]

Only to the Roman toilets. LOL

(I'll behave....)

[grave needle]

That's a fing kisher

[woeful cave]

Rabbit's shield is the same as the ones on the walls.

[fickle nova]

OH MY ACTUAL GOD!!!!!!

[grave needle]

Yup!

[woeful cave]

Guild house maybe?

[grave needle]

So we have mounts and swords and bows and we carry logs.

The scene looks so good

[fickle nova]

DDDDRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGOOOOOOOONNNNNSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[regal geode]

hmmm. Black diamondy shape, red circle

[fickle nova]

AGAIISU3IE9WOEJDJEIEIEKKEEK.

[regal geode]

looks like someone is reusing ideas

[torn shadow]

I'm so there you guys

[woeful crane]

I said that at the start. LOL

[regal geode]

i didnt see it sorry ._.

[woeful cave]

😮

[woeful crane]

Well, we need to reboot Altais. Grabs hammer

[woeful cave]

Oh shit.. that moves

[woeful crane]

Etrigan.

[fickle nova]

Guys give me a moment I'm screaming irl because I see Dragons and now I'm very happy.

[regal geode]

whats with that?

is it shrek?

[cunning comet]

This right here...Redwall 110%
I'm so on board

[grave needle]

Game of thronesssssss!

[light talon]

would be cool if we can play as the big guy

[grave needle]

Valhalla calling me...

[woeful cave]

This game is going to produce SO many great screen shots.

[woeful cave]

That's what I'm hoping for!

[torn shadow]

I bet photo mode will be great

(hopefully that's going to be a thing)

[light talon]

most likely

[woeful cave]

Just noticed the person on the thumb... For scale and is that maybe in game?

[woeful crane]

Crap. I bet it'll be PS5, not PS4...

[grave needle]

Confirmed floating base construction in LNF!

[regal geode]

oh dang

that's big

[grave needle]

That's huge

[woeful cave]

Enjoy the new background image. 🙂

[torn shadow]

you can wishlist it on steam now

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2719590/Light_No_Fire/

Steam

Light No Fire

Light No Fire is a game about adventure, building, survival and exploration together. Set on a fantasy planet the size of Earth, it brings the depth of a role playing game to the freedom of a survival sandbox.A Multiplayer EarthCarve a life together. Meet players from across the globe, build a life, explore and survive together. Construct persis...

[fickle nova]

Interesting to me how many elements from NMS are used in what we can see of this game. Surely they can find a unique and creative way to link NMS and LNF into the same Hello Games Verse.

[grave needle]

The UI at the bottom left and right... and that staff!

The UI reminds of another game we shan't talk about.

[woeful cave]

Also top left, a bunch of dots

[grave needle]

Yeah!

[fickle nova]

That entity on the right there has a head that looks like those symbols in NMS when you go to look at how many words you've learned type of thing.

When it raises its head and the light glows blue.

[regal geode]

wonder what those mean

[woeful cave]

Ya.. hp? Shield?

[fickle nova]

I'm so excited. Love the Wyverns/Dragons the most obviously.

[regal geode]

who knows...

[woeful crane]

Universal on button.

[torn shadow]

official site is up now https://lightnofire.com/

[fickle nova]

Lol.

[regal geode]

like in star wars ships lol

[cunning comet]

the head kind of looks like one of the robo fauna

[woeful cave]

We would if they'd just let us play it... like.. now.. 😄

[regal geode]

not till 2030 probably :(

[grave needle]

Haven't we seen this kind of a symbol in NMS somewhere?

[fickle nova]

This feels like a love letter to all of the NMS lore and exploration obsessed players who stuck with the game.

[fickle nova]

Lol.

Ofc.

[woeful crane]

I get a feeling I won't be able to play it until it's all been explored and done.

[fickle nova]

Remember when I first joined the server and I was obsessed with ATLAS lmao.

[regal geode]

#1182531870613831740 message me and DisonoredRonin did

[woeful cave]

Could be why we haven't seen many exploration updates in NMS

[fickle nova]

Possibly.

[woeful cave]

Maybe I can take a portal in NMS and go to this planet.. 😂

[grave needle]

No, not that

[fickle nova]

Although NMS did already get a ton of updates already.

[analog dawn]

🐉

[grave needle]

lol!

I mean...

[fickle nova]

🐉

[torn shadow]

official site is pretty bare as expected haha

[regal geode]

oh

its just the trailer

[swift rivet]

I want to enable announcements for this game on my discord channel

[torn shadow]

yeah trailer, a handful of screenshots, link to steam

[grave needle]

Yooooooooooo!

[fickle nova]

Imagine if it's set in the NMS verse cause like, it could be a super anomalous planet isolated from everywhere else with fauna and flora based off of any fantasy archives The ATLAS read while being bored on Earth lol.

[grave needle]

Wait...

[woeful cave]

Would you sacrifice your best NMS save for a head start/boost in LNF?

[regal geode]

maybe there'll be a LNF server

[grave needle]

Quick join me in #nms-spoilers

[fickle nova]

Absolutely not.

[woeful crane]

Next question: Will this server split off a separate server for LNF?

[woeful cave]

I would think so, unless it went more of a Hello Games unofficial or something

[fickle nova]

Possibly? And most likely.

Okay I'm still not calming down.

DRAGOONSSSS.

🐉 🐲 🐉

[swift rivet]

I'll just add push notifications on twitter for NMS thanks!

[woeful cave]

Not fire breathing ones because Light No Fire.

[fickle nova]

LMAO.

Traditional Wyverns are venomous.

Also, many Dragons/Draconian Entities have other abilities.

But I'm sure they will breathe fire in all honesty lol.

Could be acid though.

Like DnD.

Acid, Cold, Fire, Gas, Lightning...

[woeful cave]

afk checking steam if they've made it preorder yet 😛

[fickle nova]

I'm just excited, that's all I know.

Something awesome to look forward to along with GTA VI and a lot of other things.

Unnamed Terminator game which I hope I get news on soon.

[rigid torrent]

The general consensus is that LNF looks pretty cool

Which im glad to see im not alone in

[short saffron]

Ooooo new game on my wishlist

[rigid torrent]

If its just Ark Survival Evolved but good they have my money

[fickle nova]

Dragon.

[wintry dome]

Be sure to add it to your steam wishlist to drive up its notice

[latent latch]

I'm going to have to heavily upgrade my old pc to run this 😂

So excited though

[rigid torrent]

It being procgen is crazy

It looks miles ahead of what they did for NMS

[latent latch]

Especially given there's 12 on the team developing it

[wintry dome]

We're talking on the modding discord, looks like either the same engine or slightly modified

[latent latch]

I can see it going either way

[rigid torrent]

I wonder if theyre in a shared universe, LNF and NMS

[wintry dome]

The steam page says single player sand multiplayer co-op but does not have the MMO tag, so probably same style of multiplayer

[rigid torrent]

Didnt the robot have the stick and ball sigil on its face

[latent latch]

Irrelevant to the topic, you profile pic is gorgeous, Gumsk

[tiny barn]

the graphics are awesome

[fickle nova]

That's what I've been speculating.

[wintry dome]

Thanks

[latent latch]

One of my friends said it's lile valheim crossed nms

[short saffron]

Wonder if there’ll be like world seeds since there proc gen

[latent latch]

I hope it won't be massive multi tbf

[rigid torrent]

There was a robot or giant metal something that had the knowledge stone sigil on its face, looked like

[fickle nova]

Said that already lol.

But yes.

[woeful crane]

Maybe area seeds?

[rigid torrent]

Was clarifying, other than "sigil"

[fickle nova]

I think they can very much put them into the same universe.

[wintry dome]

If anyone needs the steam link
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2719590/Light_No_Fire/

Steam

Light No Fire

Light No Fire is a game about adventure, building, survival and exploration together. Set on a fantasy planet the size of Earth, it brings the depth of a role playing game to the freedom of a survival sandbox.A Multiplayer EarthCarve a life together. Meet players from across the globe, build a life, explore and survive together. Construct persis...

[short saffron]

Maybe. That or like a multiplayer co-op instanced world. Maybe persistent too

[rigid torrent]

Itd be an interesting idea for them to procgen a world and then do server wipes where they do a new world every time

[woeful cave]

pin steam link maybe?

[fickle nova]

Hmm.

[woeful crane]

I'm just hoping it isn't PS5 only, or PC only. I can't afford one, can't play the other.

[fickle nova]

Intruiging, yes.

[rigid torrent]

Its gotta be persistent

[latent latch]

If it's procedurally generated, wouldn't that also suggest the it's just multiplayer and not massive multi?

[rigid torrent]

Well not really

[latent latch]

Maybe

[short saffron]

Depends rly

[wintry dome]

Didn't think about that, could do multiple worlds with just a seed change

[rigid torrent]

If its really a 1:1 scale for earth, procgen only makes sense

[wintry dome]

They might be wanting to stick to one though

[rigid torrent]

They arent gonna hand craft an entire planet

[visual nacelle]

Has anyone ever done a test for how many people can be shown online at once in a live gathering in NMS? outside of the nexus?

[short saffron]

I picture it being a blend of how valheim/Minecraft do worlds

[wintry dome]

<@&590975379678953522> Pin?

[woeful cave]

I thought Sean said they want to have all their players on one world, but would have to go back and listen

[wintry dome]

32

[rigid torrent]

Yeah I think that was the implication

[visual nacelle]

I think that might be the actual hook of the game, is basically a real online world

[latent latch]

I might google and find out, I'm not sure

[wintry dome]

16 on older hardware

[rigid torrent]

I think itll be largely multiplayer, maybe even mp only, on official HG servers

[wintry dome]

Steam page has single player as a tag

[rigid torrent]

I see

[wintry dome]

So probably playable offline like NMS

[visual nacelle]

You know they wouldnt need to get 500 people online in one session, If they could get 200 persistent online players online in one space, thats all they would need

THe idea that a global city could be made is interesting

[woeful cave]

Maybe like NMS you can turn off multiplayer?

[wintry dome]

I don't think they're going for MMO level interaction

[rigid torrent]

I mean imagine literally building a kingdom

[latent latch]

32 for PC and 16 for console

[rigid torrent]

Sean Murray is no con artist, I dont think he'd make the mistake of promising what they cant deliver again

[grave needle]

They do say "multiplayer game" but end up peer-to-peer! I don't think HG has managed to create "servers" yet, else NMS would've gotten proper multiplayer. So I'm not very keen on the multiplayer experience but it's still something to look forward to.

[visual nacelle]

You know, They could just basically make the online a toggle, and when you go online- you connect to the entire global world

[latent latch]

He made a major mistake with NMS, and I highly doubt he'd make it again, I agree

[visual nacelle]

My guess is that there is probably going to be a main online version of the world and then everyone can just either go create their own private online sessions, or maybe even communities

[wintry dome]

That's already come up in his tweets tonight

[rigid torrent]

I wonder how long LNF has been incubating, it looked rather good, even for a doctored trailer, for being such a small team

[latent latch]

Private sessions would be lit

[wintry dome]

5 years

[woeful cave]

Sean said 5 years

[cunning comet]

oooh, giant octopus!

[wintry dome]

They said a couple of years ago they had been working on a big new thing for a few years

[visual nacelle]

If they can actually do a sort of "Main online" server that everyone can connect to, that would be a game changer

[latent latch]

Okay well, there goes me ever going in the water 😂

[visual nacelle]

I remember seeing that one piece of concept art floating around for the longest time

its nuts we actually get to see this game though

i really wasnt expecting it

[wintry dome]

Hopefully we'll be able to mod those out for people that need it 🙂

Yeah I never expected a full trailer this soon

Just an announcement

[woeful cave]

Replace it with water spiders

[visual nacelle]

If they are smart they will probably just have a 'ignore player' option

[latent latch]

Neither. I got home from work and got it up on YouTube and that was literally the first thing I saw. Was meant to he

[grave needle]

Mod LNF parts to NMS and vice-versa! Hehehe!

[latent latch]

I'm Australian, no spiders either, kthx

[visual nacelle]

The best part isint even going to be the launch of the game, its gonna be the version of the game we all get to share 10 years after it comes out

[grave needle]

The walk cycle looks exactly the same

[rigid torrent]

All they gotta do is build a good pvp system and a good tame system, the rest theyve already got pretty good

[wintry dome]

I'm really wondering how much I can port over

Obviously no star wars ships 🙂

[visual nacelle]

im actually kind of excited to pick those ground mounts

i liked how everything looked like it had some kind of weight for the movement of the player characters and the ground animals

[wintry dome]

The mounts they show are heavily animated, which means not very moddable if in the same engine

[latent latch]

I just love hello games' dedication to their games now. And makes me so excited for this, more so

[visual nacelle]

Yeah there isint another team like them

[wintry dome]

You can see how updates the past few years tie into this

[latent latch]

I'd be perfectly content with no pvp, personally. I'm a creative soul and just want a farm of animals

[visual nacelle]

you guys, I think this is going to legit be a fully online world.
A Multiplayer Earth
Carve a life together. Meet players from across the globe, build a life, explore and survive together. Construct persistent buildings and communities, or strike out alone to discover the world for others.

[woeful cave]

Again hoping they do the NMS model, toggle pvp

[latent latch]

Size wise, no. Larian studios is definitely up there for amazing studios

[latent latch]

That'd be amazing

[visual nacelle]

Yeah Hello games seams like they really dont want their games to be a purely competitive experience lol

[wintry dome]

They need to default pvp to off though

[visual nacelle]

The launch might be rocky but i trust them in the long run

[latent latch]

Likewise

[woeful cave]

I'm not watching the trailer again, yer watching the trailer again!

[visual nacelle]

i think the most appealing thing is that, what ever we do in the game, there is a sense we all already know that its going to be apart of long term progression over the years

I think thats gotta be one of the most sort of appealing ideas about the whole game

You could literally play as a character, in a real world, over many many years and do things together that could live on in that world, and not just quests or instanced based things.

[latent latch]

There so many factors that are appealing about it, but that's a big one

It's exciting. We're in such an amazing generation of gaming

[visual nacelle]

bro i just hope i dont die before the game comes out

Based on that one trailer alone, they are legitimately compiling everything no man sky has into one planet

that is friggin nuts

[grave needle]

Yup!

[visual nacelle]

btw did you guys see the variety of clothing and bags?

[latent latch]

Porco rosso fan I see btw

[latent latch]

No??

[grave needle]

Yeah!

The trailer has stuff for the eagle eyed!

[visual nacelle]

If you watch the trailer in slow mo, there is a lot of different looking clothing and backpacks

[latent latch]

I was so distracted staring at the creatures and scenery

[visual nacelle]

also at 0:46 they show off some kind of big creature for a very brief second, it looks almost like a mini boss fight

[latent latch]

My partner spotted the dragon first of all things early on

[visual nacelle]

yeah im gonna be mad if there is no pig race

[grave needle]

The health pips at the top! The map and day/night cycle at bottom left, the weapon/equipment at bottom right. Different weapons, so far I have seen bow, staff, sword.

[latent latch]

I'm excited about the possibility of creature races

[grave needle]

Dragons, flying tames

[latent latch]

That's fair. Porco Rosso is one of my favs, Princess Mononoke will always hold my heart though

[grave needle]

Skeletons, wisps...

Shrek!

[latent latch]

So much to be excited for

Except shrek

Not that

[grave needle]

Hahahaha!

Shrek is nice xD

[visual nacelle]

i just like that the story is about a guy trying to get over the shame of his past. Not to many film stories like that.

[latent latch]

Debatable my friend 😂

[grave needle]

lol

[visual nacelle]

Also i love that you can keep a fat dragon as a pet

[latent latch]

Studio Ghibli is amazing for their stories, they're different and so in depth

[latent latch]

Fat dragon!!!

[visual nacelle]

👌

exactly

Also that purely green dense forest at the end of the trailer was like

so refreshing to see

[grave needle]

Definitely got rizz

[woeful cave]

Really hope the giant is playable

[latent latch]

Definitely reminded me of Valheim

[frail forge]

Light No Fire Website

https://www.lightnofire.com/

Light No Fire is a game about adventure, building, survival and exploration together. Set on a fantasy planet the size of Earth, it brings the depth of a role playing game to the freedom of a survival sandbox.

[latent latch]

I spotted a fuzzy tail in the trailer, so I'm looking forward to that, whatever that is

[visual nacelle]

I was gonna mention that actually, its like everything got a really nice texture upgrade on their engine

[grave needle]

"Set on a planet the size of Earth"; that's massive.

Earth is HUGE!

[visual nacelle]

I cant wait to literally just nomad around the world

the idea that i could run into a player, possibly see a camp in the distance and go chat with them is so cool

[latent latch]

A Multiplayer Earth
Carve a life together. Meet players from across the globe, build a life, explore and survive together. Construct persistent buildings and communities, or strike out alone to discover the world for others.

A Procedural Earth
A truly open world, with no boundaries, at a scale never attempted before. A massively varied and dense planet filled with immersive biomes, unique enemies and valuable resources to discover.

A Fantasy Earth
Light No Fire presents you with an ancient earth to uncover. One where you're not the hero. Thick with lore, mystery and a constant fight for survival. Inspired by the adventure, charm and imagination that we love from classic fantasy.

An Unexplored Earth
Every mountain can be climbed, and below them lie endless vistas, oceans and continents perhaps no others have seen. Who will climb the tallest mountains, who will find the deepest sea? Set sail across vast oceans and rivers, ride wild beasts through fantastical landscapes, fly dragons over undiscovered landscapes.

[grave needle]

Yeah! It will be an epic journey to walk around the planet.

[tiny barn]

And Sean is going be super careful what he says too these days so just imagine

[grave needle]

Yup!

[latent latch]

100%, and it's so fricken good

[torn trail]

FANTASY NO MANS SKY FANTASY NO MANS SKY

[tiny barn]

Just imagine though this might be the first MMORPG that is a Sandbox that actually gets decent updates also...

[torn trail]

[grave needle]

Mikiiiiii!

[cunning comet]

"an ancient earth to uncover. One where you're not the hero. Thick with lore, mystery"
yes plz

[torn shadow]

No Man's Sky -> Everyone's Planet

[visual nacelle]

bro what he meant to say is that the game is gonna be like sword art online and if you die in the game you die in the real life

[tiny barn]

I was not quoting anyone

[latent latch]

Sounds so juicy

[latent latch]

Oh shiiiiiit

[grave needle]

Hard to say it will be a MMORPG!

[torn trail]

fantasy no mans sky

I PLAY

[visual nacelle]

my dad is sean murray and he says that you can also take dumps just like you do in the real world too

[torn trail]

U CAN BE BUNNY

I SOLD

[visual nacelle]

earth accurate sized dumps

[torn trail]

TAKE MY MONEI

[visual nacelle]

You can also be deer people too

I just wanna be a fat little pig guy

[latent latch]

There goes ever working again

[tiny barn]

I guess it will prob be more if people will define it as a MMO. I'm guessing prob have some sort of simlar p2p restrictions as say NMS maybe a bit more expanded. But yeah be interesting what can be done.

[latent latch]

Never leaving my house

[torn trail]

SAME

[wintry dome]

Probably not MMO

[torn trail]

i play 40 hour a day

[wintry dome]

The steam page does not have that tag

[woeful cave]

Watching Jason Plays reaction to it.. he's so wholesome 😄

[grave needle]

Yeah! P2P by the looks of it.

[latent latch]

I work too much to play like that these days 😮‍💨

[visual nacelle]

i think its just going to be a sort of optional online adventure game you can play with others

[grave needle]

Steam says SP!

[wintry dome]

All the screenshots seem to show small groups like NMS, and the engine seems to be same as NMS

[visual nacelle]

Im not counting the game launching with PVP btw

[grave needle]

The walk cycle is exactly the same as NMS!

[grave needle]

Walk cycle is engine dependent.

[latent latch]

Zuriku, is it okay if I send a friend request?

[torn trail]

the tag says sandbox and action rpg

[tiny barn]

NMS then LNF and then NMS2 will be using LNF's earth size planets x billions 😉

[visual nacelle]

A Multiplayer Earth
Carve a life together. Meet players from across the globe, build a life, explore and survive together. Construct persistent buildings and communities, or strike out alone to discover the world for others.

This implies that you'll be able to just go to actual communities

[wintry dome]

There are communities in NMS

But it's not an MMO

[torn trail]

16^16^16 planets

[visual nacelle]

Yeah it might work the same thing

[tiny barn]

I need sleep, hopefully I don't dream too much of LNF lol

[visual nacelle]

Its just so strange because its clearly not going to be a MMO, but its almost like they are suggesting that its going to be some kind of actual online world

[grave needle]

Basically universally spread across communities will now be on the same planet, and the planet is huge to accommodate a few million players if it's earth sized. Earth accommodates billions of players on a regular basis.

I'm most excited for screenshots.

[visual nacelle]

As someone who visited one of those most populated NMS planets, I think itll probably just be some kind of bubble based online thing

Where they'll just show you the online players in your "Bubble"

[tiny barn]

Looks like the people who snatched the subreddit our subreddit farms https://www.reddit.com/r/lightnofire/

[grave needle]

I'm speculating the same 32 people group size max, at once.

[wintry dome]

They need to improve performance of the engine if they plan on having player built communities

[woeful cave]

When you consider how big the earth is, and you cut the population to just a fraction of that, there's a good chance you won't meet a whole lot of people.

[visual nacelle]

Yeah thats why im thinking that they wont need to show 500 players if that'll even be a thing

[wintry dome]

Probably have hub points you can find like the Nexus

[visual nacelle]

if they can reach 100 players that'll be more than enough to make a city feel alive- if that can be a thing.

[tiny barn]

I have one request from them....

[woeful cave]

Yup, even if there's 1m online, how many will actually be in the same area?

[tiny barn]

Don't make the game for the Switch only Switch 2

[grave needle]

Following the news they shared on the upcoming updates for NMS I do think they have already made some drastic changes in the engine, they just have to implement them now.

[tiny barn]

I don't need the game dumbed down

[wintry dome]

Yeah that's what I think

[visual nacelle]

You know the idea that a nexus in LNF could be like a actual fantasy city where you could run into as many players as the nexus- is really cool on its own

or even if its just a hub

[feral crown]

Huge suprise seeing this at the Game Awards, really excited to see what Sean and the team are cooking up here great early christmas gift!

[tiny barn]

Honestly they prob can do bigger then 32 in size I think we could do like 64 tbh

[grave needle]

The shaders look very different in the little snippet they showcased at the end of that award trailer video.

[mellow oyster]

No procedure generation i guess?

[tiny barn]

the only thing NMS needs to do is fix their netcode issues with lots of players

not sure if they fixed that yet

where it use to lag badly when people would join

[mellow oyster]

They haven't fixed a lot of stuff

[woeful cave]

Perhaps some of the tech will be shared over, but they didn't want to put it in NMS because it would tip their hand?

[visual nacelle]

The online infrastructure might be a lot better in LNF because it probably has been built a lot more earlier than in NMS

[tiny barn]

Hopefully

[grave needle]

Oh it will be procgen if they are on the same engine

[tiny barn]

this game might also not show up for another 2 years also

[visual nacelle]

I think Online in NMS was built in after, due to how much it really improved the experience

[wintry dome]

The shaders in the NMS 2024 tease also look much better

[mellow oyster]

Hmm. I'm okay with that if we will have a lot of planets, not like 2-3

[grave needle]

Yup!

[tiny barn]

No Man's Sky was revealed at the VGX Awards in December 2013
No Man's Sky/Initial release date August 9, 2016

[mellow oyster]

Huh? What tease

[grave needle]

It's in #nms-spoilers channel

[woeful cave]

I'm wondering if the station the ship flies out of is player owned

[wintry dome]

No way of knowing

And not LNF 🙂

[tiny barn]

The Last Campfire Reveal Trailer - The Game Awards 2018
The Last Campfire/Initial release date August 27, 2020

[visual nacelle]

LNF could be anything

any release window

[tiny barn]

so I'm guessing were looking at a 2 year or so window

[visual nacelle]

it could be a year from now, it could be 3 years from now

[wintry dome]

Just reserved this. Hope I need it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LightNoFireMods

[grave needle]

No release window, we do have wishlist on steam.

[woeful cave]

Could be.. NOW! checks steam Dang it

[mellow oyster]

Game release in 2 years
Game full release in 5 years

Lmao

[torn trail]

idc if its like 10 years if it good i play

[tiny barn]

"Games a PS5 Exclusive"

[mellow oyster]

I'm just hope they will make good game without any downgrade for NMS

[grave needle]

I'm assuming the same price point, $60

[tiny barn]

I would just burn down PS if that was the case lol

[torn shadow]

You can wishlist it on Steam already so it's prooooobably not a console exclusive

[tiny barn]

I think Sean is not going be buddies with Playstation

I think some bad blood happen mostly on PS side

[grave needle]

Definitely not a console exclusive lol

[torn shadow]

yup

[tiny barn]

2 years later it vanishes on steam and shows on epic 😛

[woeful cave]

Intellivision exclusive

[torn shadow]

lol we had an intellivision when i was a kid

[tiny barn]

Hell maybe will get the game on Virtual Boy

[woeful cave]

It's the only console I've ever owned 😄

[tiny barn]

That thing damaged my eyesight I swear

[torn trail]

game comes out on ipad??!?!?!

[tiny barn]

seem like the game awards were pushing mobile a lot 🤮

[torn trail]

is ok i wish mobile games are not games made just to make money

[mellow oyster]

They all are, that's the point

[torn trail]

I have found my new spot, all I'm sayijg is I'm going 100% dragon mount, I'ma get the biggest meanest.looking one too

[grave needle]

As long as Sean is alive and acting as the head of HG I think they'll be one of my fav developers. 😅
Man's lives by some strict rules with unwavering, unnerving honesty.

[torn trail]

I'ma build my cast high stop one and will claim my dragon in order to reach it

[woeful cave]

😄 and the biggest zip line EVAR

[grave needle]

If anything we dan all agree they make some really awesome videos.

Using in-game footage.

[torn trail]

Lol or catapult , I wonder if I can make a human character with log golden hair... With cool armor like a true Targaryean

[wintry dome]

To be fair, didn't Sean say mountains one mile high? The highest on earth are something like 5 to 6.5 miles

[torn trail]

I wonder how big the dragon Mounts can get, Hopefully really really big

[wintry dome]

Depending on how you measure

[cunning comet]

i heard miles

[torn trail]

I think the distance between the lowest known point and highest knwn point on earth is 6 miles.

[cunning comet]

but maybe im misremembering

guess i'll have to watch it again 😅

[wintry dome]

Greatest distance from base of mountain to peak of same mountain is 10,203m (debatable)

[cunning comet]

"mountains that are miles high...taller than Everest"

[wintry dome]

Ahh great, thanks

[torn trail]

It's around 12.3 miles

The Marianas trench and mount Everest

[wintry dome]

? That's 6.3 miles

Oh you mean lowest anywhere to highest anywhere

[copper sand]

Just got into this server for this specific announcement lol

[wintry dome]

You can also measure distance from core, which varies a lot

[torn trail]

I hope we get large dragon souls so I can make a true Throne for my castle

[torn shadow]

I wonder if we'll at least get a local map

[torn trail]

I want to try and find a Jet black dragon and cal it Balerion

[gloomy stream]

The song from the trailer.

https://youtu.be/dCCXq9QB-dQ?si=AQVMuvsi7Pi-UVgn

[woeful cave]

Wonder if "Light No Fire" is a reference to the evolution of mankind. Making it a prequel to No Man's Sky

[wintry dome]

Considering the tech elements in some scenes,I would say distant future if so

[copper sand]

Or if it's the only planet undiscovered in nms

[woeful cave]

The giant robot looks like a KNowledge stone for a face. The end symbol an open Atlas...

[cunning comet]

I'm still standing firmly in my weird ass fan theory head cannon about mechanical planet eventually becoming the perfect simluated world

[gloomy stream]

Captain Steve is gonna lore the crap outta that theory

[copper sand]

Just having some ships come from nowhere at certain times during the game XD

[feral crown]

I have a feeling the whole planet is Atlas at 15, like it's enclosing itself more to one planet to try and prevent a failure

[sleek wharf]

The game looks beautiful!

[vale dock]

Yeah the reused visuals really make me think it will tie in with NMS

[sleek wharf]

I like it being on one planet

[vale dock]

Will only get confirmed if they add some tie in elements to NMS

[feral crown]

gonna be fun to find out when it comes out eventually!

[vale dock]

But man I can't help but be a bit disappointed they didn't try for a new genre

Survivalcraft is so saturated now

[sleek wharf]

There is only a few good ones though

[vale dock]

And it just being parallels to NMS, it looks incredibly similar except the terrain being more realised

And then making a thematically similar trailer

[cunning comet]

It feels like at the worst, it's mostly exploration and lore focused, which I would be totally okay with

[torn shadow]

exploration is the itch that i need scratched the most

[cunning comet]

But I do get a lot of Redwall meets Numenera vibes from it for sure

[vale dock]

I hope they'll put some creative twist to this genre

[sleek wharf]

Yeah with NMS I feel like once you touched down on a planet you have seen most of it already

[vale dock]

Right now it makes me want to just play valheim instead

I also tried lego fortnite, it again kinda bored me as it's the same old progression and systems nothing fancy

[sleek wharf]

I hope we can fight with our companions. That is one of the things I will keep my eye on

[mint dune]

Its cool to see HG new IP. The trailer in NMS style make me kinda nostalgic.

[vale dock]

The world isn't even lego aside from the enemies, at least I know HG will make it visually cohesive

[sleek wharf]

Fornite Lego huh

I gotta see some gameplay

[vale dock]

Played it for an hour, for someone new to the genre I can imagine it being pretty fun and chill

Especially kids

[mint dune]

I wonder of there will be voice acting in LNF

[cunning comet]

They all speak like Frog from Chrono Trigger lol

[vale dock]

But the world looks kinda bland as it's just typical fortnite style world, only when you start building do you get to the lego aesthetic

[cunning comet]

idk why but id find that hilarious

[vale dock]

One thing LNF trailer got me excited is the building animations they look awesome

[torn shadow]

animal crossing phonemes

[vale dock]

And visual effects definitely bumped up hard from NMS

[cunning comet]

Kingfisher mount was cool as hell. I want one in NMS now

[sleek wharf]

So is it just reskinned Fornite? Do I just install Fornite and then Lego Fornite will be there?
Or is it an entire game?

[vale dock]

Yeah the former, you just install the experience and then choose it from the bottom

Great thing is you're not forced into a single multiplayer world you make your own and then invite friends in it if you want

[sleek wharf]

Hmm that's interesting. Might check it out then.

I never got into Fornite because the building mechanics seemed too much

[copper sand]

Never got into it because of the high incentive to spend everything on vbucks

[vale dock]

I dont play fortnite but when I saw the lego thing I got curious and installed

but it didnt get me hooked so I uninstalled

I am anyway deep into modded minecraft and making my industrial zone

and I trust HG to make a nicer feeling survivalcraft anyway

I hope they make it more tight and cohesive compared to NMS, learning from all their mistakes, feedback and successes

[copper sand]

May be a bit optimistic as vr has lost a bit of its new concept hype but i still hope it does give support for it.

[main otter]

Omg!! Just seen the trailer!!

You can fly a dragon!!!!

[vale dock]

they're clearly using the same engine, I can easily see them implementing VR

in fact I just noticed the water physics are the same as the current game lol, just better reflections

[outer cliff]

ahh nice

[latent latch]

I second this!

[frail forge]

Light No Fire Subreddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/LightNoFireHelloGames/

[fickle nova]

Truly the reason I will be playing.

[mint dune]

No LNF logo emote yet ?

What if LNF is a prequel to nms ?

[odd seal]

We have an Impulse Beans emote and no LNF ATLAS logo.

[mint dune]

Bean can stay . But would get rid of 1 vr emote because there is two of them

And

[unkempt fog]

[mint dune]

🥳

[maiden python]

when LNF discord

[mystic ibex]

Will this game have VOIP? It looks like a major win for a new game to RP in as D&D fan.

[frail forge]

[mint dune]

New knowledge stone ?

[frail forge]

[short saffron]

Looks like a warframe corpus Lolol

The head at least

[mystic ibex]

Really curious on combat/charater progression. Will there be classes or will combat/skills be locked to weapons. Any news on this?

[tribal belfry]

I was thinking, could LNF be a sequel to NMS? The giant red orb could be the Atlas?

[minor pecan]

Got any other technical speculations?

Very curious regarding the possible technical details of the upcoming game.

How the procgen works, whether it'll be using Vulkan on PC, etc.

[wintry dome]

Can't really tell much from just the trailer 🙂

We definitely don't know any of that

The only things you can surmise really are that it looks like the same engine or a modified version of the same, for many reasons, and that there are many features that seem to be related to NMS updates in the past

Then make guesses from there

[minor pecan]

Can't lie, when Sean started talking I was saying:

SEAN NO
PLEASE UNDERSELL
SSSSEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAANNNNNNN

Then the trailer came up and I went:

No wait,
LET HIM COOK

[wintry dome]

He definitely stayed to script for exactly that reason

The quotes he gave were mostly the same as the announcement text

His Twitter tonight was funny

[maiden python]

I personally think it would be wise to assume hello games will largely stick with what they already know

[vale dock]

To me it looks like valheim except we will finally have a round earth and not flat with borders or infinite like Minecraft

[tribal belfry]

If LNF sells as well as NMS, every player has 14.89 km^2 or 1/6th the size of manhatten(assuming equal land area to Earth). I doubt there will be much wilderness left.

[minor pecan]

Part of what Sean said though is that it's going to be the first real open world game.

That must've made things at least a little awkward between him and Todd Howard when they met post-show.

[tribal belfry]

I am a little skeptical about 10 million players sharing 1 planet.

[wintry dome]

It's likely the same type of multiplayer as NMS, so they won't really be. It's not an MMO

[mint dune]

It also depends how big the planet will be.

And it seams that the planet will be huge

[wintry dome]

They keep saying earth sized in all their text, so about that

[crisp ether]

Right, looks like I'm going to start saving up for a PS5...

[sleek wharf]

I hope my Steam Deck will be powerful enough to run it lol

[mint dune]

Air glideing!

[torn trail]

So excited after the trailer! Gonna grind NMS everyday now!

[frail forge]

[mint dune]

Collossal archive?

Playable bunny race. And vendors?

[orchid jetty]

This is perfect

[mint dune]

The Beacons of hype has been lit!

Also rip game name 😆

[torn trail]

😂😂😂😂

[vale dock]

it'll probably be like minecraft realms

make a world, its constantly online

unless they dont have the money to fund it, then it'll be localised worlds but you can invite your friends

[mint dune]

Theres a person standing on the finger under the "atlas"

[vale dock]

just making sure to light no fire

it really sounds like a combination of no mans sky and the last campfire

[mint dune]

So we also got staffs in NMS. Are these will also be customizable?

Looks like the staff and capes in NMS come from LNF early development.

So my question is, will we see some NMS version of dragons from LNF. Maybe as ship/frigate/freighter type or fauna in the future 🤞

[viral lotus]

Is there a discord yet, or is the game still to far away?

[grave needle]

Currently we have this thread, other community discords may or may not have created something but there's no official discord as of yet. The game release dates weren't shared, it's on wishlist on steam.

[viral lotus]

ty ty

[outer schooner]

Does this imply that the Light No Fire world is also simulated/controlled by the Atlas?

[rose plover]

Me excited

[silk crane]

Means they like red visuals

[warm mountain]

Seems to be a lot of different animal characters available.

Bunnies, badgers, owls, deer people and maybe even foxes/wolves.

Lovely! I love when fantasy RPGs have more than just humans, orcs and elves

[warm mountain]

Sean

[vapid plinth]

Korvax confirmed

[mint dune]

[copper sand]

I saw people associating it with knowledge stones first but it's true it ressembles both lol

[copper sand]

Wonder if they'll have any difference between opposite to nms

[warm mountain]

Nope. Similar art style doesn't mean it's from NMS. Hello Games literally said the new title is it's own thing and not related to NMS when they first teased it years ago

[warm mountain]

Hoping for race specific attributes when it comes to movement, skills etc.

Would be truly deep RPG mechanics

[vapid plinth]

Yeah like they did with nms lol

[warm mountain]

Literally just the style of their artist Beau Lamb

https://www.artstation.com/beaulamb

[silk crane]

That thing shown in the pic has fur and ears anyways, doubt it's Korvax

[warm mountain]

Interestingly enough they've been drawing fantasy art for quite some time now.

[vapid plinth]

Maybe it's like an old korvax. Back before they colonized the galaxy

[ancient lantern]

this has been in development for 5 years

[vapid plinth]

Primal korvax confirmed

[warm mountain]

Yup. And years ago I speculated HG was making a fantasy RPG on the background. Glad to see it's actually happening!

[rose plover]

It’s still not confirmed in any way…

It could just be a coincidence

[silk crane]

We really hate false information here

[rose plover]

Hellu Mythos

[vapid plinth]

It's just speculation. We can't say one way or another whether it is or isn't without them explicitly confirming. Theories are fun.

[rose plover]

Then don’t say confirmed

[vapid plinth]

It's not to be taken in a literal context bruv.

[rose plover]

Then don’t say it

[grave needle]

Which? The walking small entity in the middle or the large entity in the background?
Just because something shares a design element doesn't mean it is what we think it is.
This game is being developed by Hello Games, the company/team of devs that made No Man's Sky. They're using some models they've already created into a new title. This is a well known practice used by many gaming and entertainment companies across the globe, be it Ubisoft or Disney. This does not prove jackfruit, let alone a Korvax in LNF.

[silk crane]

Jackfruit

[vapid plinth]

Jackfruit confirmed?

[grave needle]

This being said, let's be mindful of the server and pinned parent channel rules everyone.

@rose plover and @vapid plinth be nice. 🙂

[vapid plinth]

So be nice to me im just speculating.

[grave needle]

Yes :3

[warm mountain]

Exactly this. The trailer includes many similarities with NMS but that's simply the "DNA" of Hello Games. You can recognize the handiwork of specific people over time. Like 3D modelers, artists, programmers etc.

Game making is an art form just like any other and the personal touch and "spirit" of an artist carries over between titles.

It's similar how every game from specific studio like Bethesda, Rockstar etc. have their own similar feel despite being different titles.

[rose plover]

Sowwy

[vapid plinth]

I just feel like it just seems super duper coincidental they chose a nms-esque model for that when the rest of the art style for lnf is different

[warm mountain]

I would refer to this
#1182531870613831740 message

Literally how gamedev works

[vapid plinth]

This is light no fire

[warm mountain]

It is a comment I said

[warm mountain]

It leads to this comment

[vapid plinth]

Look it's a theory. We don't know if it's right or not. It's cool to think about

It wouldn't be a far stretch that hello games could tie in games loosely

[grave needle]

They chose NMS-esq lot of stuff for NFL, the walk cycle, the engine (speculation), the idea, the multiplayer, even some of the creature design look very similar, but it's not surprising given they're reusing the same models to build upon. Heck, I saw some plant that you can find similar versions of in NMS.

[vapid plinth]

Yeah I looked at the walking animation and just immediately thought of nms.

[warm mountain]

Theorizing is fine. It just irks me to hear a statement like "This looks like NMS, hence same universe confirmed"

[rose plover]

Ah yes the soon to be released Fire No Light

[vapid plinth]

It's jokes mate

[grave needle]

It's still a nice speculation that both of these games are from the same universe, ||maybe a pre-existing AI sim, or a post Atlas AI sim (after the 16 minutes)||

[silk crane]

No Mans Fire

[vapid plinth]

Light no mans

[vapid plinth]

Five Nights at Larrys

[warm mountain]

Instead of being a same universe, the most logical answer for all similarities are that it's the same artists, programmers and engine. The handiwork and style of people carry over different titles

[grave needle]

Its NFL! Sheesh! Tch! Pfft! Smh my head!

[mint dune]

No mans Skyrim

[warm mountain]

No Man's Fire

Sky no Man

[rose plover]

No Fire Man’s Light Sky

[vapid plinth]

This

[grave needle]

NFL! No friggin life! (me in a nutshell)

[silk crane]

Is HG attacking Bethesda, will their next game be post apocalyptic setting?

[grave needle]

[warm mountain]

I won't be having one once the game comes out for sure xD

[grave needle]

Joe danger in a post apocalyptic setting. lol! Stop feeding fuel to fire. Admin abooz!

[silk crane]

[warm mountain]

Todd isn't looking too happy

Maybe Sean had a bit more drinks that night

[grave needle]

lol! He didn't like "Joe danger guy". Sean is "No Man's Guy".

[short saffron]

Joe danger guy. “It just works”

[rose plover]

No Fires Light

[grave needle]

lol!

[mint dune]

Fire maybe because NMS eats for dinner starfield 🤭

[grave needle]

No fries left!

[vapid plinth]

It's because Todd is mad that Sean can do a better open world sci-fi game with a smaller staff and budget than his triple a studio

[warm mountain]

spitting facts

[grave needle]

LNF does look promising though, it's actually massive compared to other "single planet" games.

[rose plover]

Never Fighting Lasers

[grave needle]

If they actually pull off earth sized planet, that is.

[silk crane]

They are 2 100% different games, like comparing GTA to Fallout

[vapid plinth]

100 percent. I'm assuming it'll probably be like nms in the fact the planet will be massive

[warm mountain]

And if the statement about rich thick and deep lore is true, it'll truly be massive

[grave needle]

Approx 64000 km radius is ...

[silk crane]

Makes no sense once you have played both

[vapid plinth]

And everyone starts in their own little corner

[grave needle]

I've usually seen a trend in good start-ups... instead of corner almost all of them started in the garage.

[warm mountain]

I'm really intrigued of the server structure in LNF. If the instancing is similar to NMS, how big etc.

seems to be from the initial description

[vapid plinth]

Jajajajaja

[warm mountain]

but who knows

[grave needle]

Co-op says on steam.

[rose plover]

Seamless open world earth size planet would be amazing

[grave needle]

Marked as single player. I think it will be same as NMS

P2P

[vapid plinth]

LNF won't make me stop playing nms but I think it will be a breath of fresh air from the open world fantasy genre

Hope they have dungeons

[grave needle]

I will purchase regardless, and the mod LNF parts into NMS and vice-versa.

[vapid plinth]

Imagine

Psuedo korvax in nms

[grave needle]

You mean the Autophage?

[vapid plinth]

Idk what you'd call the giants

Mod one of those into nms

[rose plover]

Aerons

Prolly not

But maybe

[silk crane]

KNOWLEDGE BROS

[rose plover]

Lmao yes

[grave needle]

Nobody knows at this point except "Knowledge Bros".

We have a name, confirmed.

[vapid plinth]

How do you know they contain knowledge?

[rose plover]

I’m so hyped

[grave needle]

Gleam said so.

[vapid plinth]

What if their heads are empty. No thoughts

[grave needle]

Gleam is 99.99% correct.

[rose plover]

99.99…%

[mint dune]

Obey the Gleam

[grave needle]

They have real torches.

[vapid plinth]

I cant make a joke. I want to. But I cant

[rose plover]

Oboy the gleam

[grave needle]

Yes! I am not going for 16 digit decimals. :3

[grave needle]

Obey the Gleam.

[vapid plinth]

99.999999999999999999%

[rose plover]

Would it be possible to make a with the gray/black base that the Atlas looking thing has in the trailer

[copper sand]

Warmth system seems a tiny bit more advanced than nms XD

[vapid plinth]

Do we have an estimated release date?

[mint dune]

So basicaly we know what to ecpect from LNF from NMS. Only and Bigest mistery is the story.

[copper sand]

Only thing i could dig from the ui lol

[rose plover]

I pray there’s Aerons in the game

There probably won’t be, but I can pray

[vapid plinth]

Aerons are nms lore yeah?

[rose plover]

Yep

[vapid plinth]

So what you are saying is

You want

LnF to be part of NMS universe

[rose plover]

I want Aerons

That’s it

They don’t even have to be the same kind of Aerons as the ones from nms lore I just want something named Aerons

[copper sand]

Seems fair to assume it's going to be

[vapid plinth]

That's what I've been saying this entire time

Same universe gang

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was a different type of

How do I do spoilers?

[copper sand]

./spoilers

[silk crane]

!faq-spoilers

Wow, bot off

[rose plover]

/spoilers

[vapid plinth]

Do better

[silk crane]

Oh, did plural

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[vapid plinth]

||atlas sinulation||

That could be a genuine theory without breaking from the universe or lore

Also I mispelled a word

[silk crane]

It's got bunnies

[vapid plinth]

It's also got birbs

[silk crane]

Bunny on a Birb, this is fantasy

[vapid plinth]

||a fantasy of the Atlas in its simulation||

[silk crane]

@cerulean pasture
https://youtu.be/UpC0ddBRBuw?si=QCoaVmIwFOCzqpOG

[outer schooner]

I feel as if Light No Fire is basically a more sophisticated Minecraft with realistic graphics and I mean this in a positive way because I love Minecraft.

[silk crane]

Cant wait to get some more info

[copper sand]

Yup minecraft with more easily accessible and less blocky freedom lol

[vapid plinth]

I'm sure sean

[woeful cave]

Knowledge giants? 😛

[woeful cave]

It's been fun watching people react to the trailer, in particular ones that stayed with the game from the start 🙂

[vapid plinth]

LNF won't be completely open world. It'll most likely be like nms

[silk crane]

What

[vapid plinth]

So you know how you have to warp to systems yeah?

I'm assuming you'll have to do something similar with different regions of this fantasy planet

[silk crane]

Would you care to bet?

[vapid plinth]

I'm all about a good wager

USD?

[silk crane]

Nah - something lighthearted

[cold hearth]

Nude Gleam pic…?

[vapid plinth]

Alright yeah

[silk crane]

If there are loading screens for regions, you can pick my name for a month (server rules apply)

If not, I pick yours

[vapid plinth]

Oh 100%

[silk crane]

Cool

[vapid plinth]

So my statement is this

It will be open world in seperate "regions" kind of like how you had little seperate "system" seeds. You'll have a LOT of land to work with per region but it makes sense that they will follow in the success of NMS and use a system that works similarly

Idk what would be the equivalent of warping though.

[mystic ibex]

I cant wait to RP in this game. Very excited.

[silk crane]

Ok, and mine is that there will be no loading screens for that - full planet access no loading

[vapid plinth]

Bet.

[silk crane]

Potential Dungeons and interiors do not apply

[mystic ibex]

hmm....Dungeons, hope hey are instanced or else the bunny people may get in a fight with the deer people over loot/resoruces haha

[vapid plinth]

See my theory will be that region seeds will have fixed procedural dungeons unique to each region

[silk crane]

I think we are going to see a lot more handcrafted areas than what we have been used to in NMS - that's why I think dungeons could need a load

If there are dungeons as we know them from other games ofc

[vapid plinth]

Did we get an estimated year on when it will release?

[silk crane]

Nah

I wouldn't think multiple years though, if they are showing a trailer

[vapid plinth]

I've got a reminder to check on our bet a year from now 😂

[warm mountain]

Heck. Imagine that. Finding a note left by an old traveler or a forum post about a dungeon location with some legendary loot.

Then proceeding to traverse across the world to find said dungeon. Meeting others along the way, encountering dangers, settling for a moment.

[silk crane]

Badass

[torn trail]

Is this going to be more of a MMO than NMS is? No man's sky isn't a MMO but have elements of MMOs. I hope that PvP (if any) is optional

[warm mountain]

I can already imagine such a rich and more "close-to-ground" experience.

[mystic ibex]

you mean what mmos where before discord? and wowhead haha

[warm mountain]

Basically xD

[silk crane]

I didn't see more than 4 players at once in that trailer, I'm guessing 4 player coop not mmo

[mystic ibex]

if you never played mmos on dial up, you will never know what true exploration is....when you kept notes on an actual notepad by your computer

[vapid plinth]

I really think they are taking the approach of "if it isn't broke dont fix it" watching the trailer I noticed the flyers are very VERY similar to the ship animations from nms.

[torn trail]

RuneScape is a classic example

[warm mountain]

My realistic expectations would be literal NMS level of online presence.

My wish would be same with just waayy bigger instances for potential player built villages/towns etc.

[mystic ibex]

I tell you what I miss in the video game industry, is demo disks...not betas or alphas, but actual demos of a game. That where made public for the masses to try.

I cant wait for when this game comes out and I get attacked by an army of cute bunnies lol

[warm mountain]

Current iteration of NMS online systems is extremely cost effective whilst still giving an illusion of relatively persistent online world.

If HG takes a risk, they could increase online budget and make more server side stuff.

Although NMS-style online suits well with those who also want a solo experience

[woeful cave]

I'm deep in this dungeon.. hope no one picks up the pho...NO CARRIER

[warm mountain]

Im already planning my character! will definitely be an otter unless foxes are an option

so far only seen otters, deer people, pig and owl

and potentially a wolf

[silk crane]

And bunnies

[warm mountain]

bnuye

[mystic ibex]

I always play a feline race/tiger if possible, Khajit or Vah Shir all day every day. 2 Handed Melee ...tank build if possible to spec that deep

[silk crane]

Bunny power

[warm mountain]

Argonian enjoyer here. Leaning more towards dragon'ish characters. (or foxis)

Really hope for race specific attributes in LNF

[silk crane]

Seems like an RPG to me, bet that's a thing

[copper sand]

Wonder how they'll translate to vr if they do

[warm mountain]

wondering how deep the RPG mechanics will be. If HG goes all in, it'll be a true competitor to top line rpgs

[mystic ibex]

I swore one of the characters in the trailer looked like a Hipo to me

[vapid plinth]

I would expect more of a focus on exploration rather than deep rpg mechanics

[mystic ibex]

If this game offers D&D 5E like class depth w/multiclassing....yes all I have to say is yes.

[vapid plinth]

I would say don't get your hopes up for a crazy in depth rpg hand crafted skyrim esque game

[warm mountain]

Did you happen to see the one scene where they were flying over a mountain and you could spot a big castle way over in the distance. It was pretty tiny from far away.

I'll be blown away if the player structures render that far away

[mystic ibex]

Ill need to buy a new computer

[warm mountain]

Climbing over a hill and seeing smoke in the distance. Heading there and finding a little village made by a group of players.

heck I'm daydreaming all the possibilities

[mystic ibex]

wait...you mean ot RIAD the little village right?

[torn trail]

Diplomacy or war

[warm mountain]

I sure hope the game won't have Ark/Rust type of raiding system. Rather an opt-in thing where you can participate in pvp activity if both sides enable it

[mystic ibex]

Servitude or Death

[rigid torrent]

I hope it does have extensive pvp

[mystic ibex]

I agree....I hope for opt-in or pve and pvp designated servers

[rigid torrent]

I want this game to be Ark SE but good

[mystic ibex]

I also hope we can host our own servers/sessions

[warm mountain]

Light No Fire seems like a symbolic wordplay about having a peaceful community thing. You can have light without fire and so on.

Or it could have deeper lore meaning in the game itself

[warm mountain]

I suspect it to be a whole unified thing like NMS univere. At least what I could understand from Sean's description about an earth that everyone shares.

If it comes to that, I hope there isn't terraforming. Wouldn't wanna spawn in an ugly hole dug by a group of griefers

[mystic ibex]

thats exactly why I want to self host for my friends and others of us who want to RP, immersion loss is REAL when people build giant eyesores or Chinese Rust clans come in and takeover the map

[torn trail]

Can we expect trade and economy?

[warm mountain]

Realstically am expecting mmo-hybrid thing like NMS.

[rose plover]

It will probably be very similar to nms but fantasy instead of sci-fi

[warm mountain]

One good thing about this game is... unlike NMS where the planets are actually relatively small in comparison to real life planets, in LNF they boast the world to be an actual earth sized planet with mountains that feel like mountains etc.

Logistically there won't be big enough player groups to cause that much eyesore in such a large world

[mystic ibex]

The steam page says singleplayer so can it be played offline/online co-op.....so who knows how that will be implemented

[warm mountain]

NMS-style player visibility toggle where buildings and such still show up? Could be

[mystic ibex]

I swa a bow and sword get used in the trailer. I am curious if all gear will be player created or if dungoens/npcs will drop loot or just rare resources

[warm mountain]

@silk crane @frail forge
Any plans with servers admins to create an "official" LNF-discord server? Or leaving that to others?

[silk crane]

Oh you know

Cant really say

[warm mountain]

Probably a mix of both. So much potential for a deep crafting system where dungeon finds could unlock stuff for recipes and so on.

Also hang glider!

[balmy pelican]

I’m assuming lore wise, the game is set in the nms universe a LONG time before space travel, which I think is cool

Maybe set in medieval times?

[warm mountain]

This. Everything is such a blur now. No official site for the game, no solid community yet.

Optimal situation would be that HG finally hired community managers that would host an official server.

[mystic ibex]

I just envisioned a guild v guild war...imagine 100s of bunny folk slaughtering the masses

[silk crane]

I mean, I'm not going to answer that 🙂

[wild cliff]

I am... blown away!

[vapid plinth]

Don't overhyped the game. It definitely looks like they took NMS and turned it into a fantasy game

[torn trail]

I think trade will be expanded in comparison with NMS if we assume that a few people will obtain rare drops from monsters and unique resources depending on the biome they spawn. And creating recipes. This obviously adds value, supply and demand etc

[silk crane]

Gamers.

Overhype is what we do

[wild cliff]

I'd say earth-sized makes it quite a bit different... !

[warm mountain]

I assume and hope it's a whole own lore and world. A chance for HGs story writers and creative people to flourish their skills and utilize what they've learned

[vapid plinth]

What have we learned over the past few years lol

[silk crane]

Nothing at all based on my experiences

[mystic ibex]

cough 'the day before' ....lol

[warm mountain]

Hmm hmm... already got hired for the upcoming official server? >.>

👀👀

[wild cliff]

this quote has me planning my entire identity around the game:

"Light No Fire presents you with an ancient earth to uncover. One where you're not the hero. Thick with lore, mystery and a constant fight for survival. Inspired by the adventure, charm and imagination that we love from classic fantasy."

[warm mountain]

can relate

[balmy pelican]

I feel like combat will be much better and focused on compared to nms

[rose plover]

Oooh we’re not the hero

[wild cliff]

Exactly!

[rose plover]

Who said that!

[wild cliff]

On the website

[rose plover]

Where said they that?

Sick

[wild cliff]

https://lightnofire.com/press

[vapid plinth]

Notice how there was no touch upon heavy rpg. Rather its about adventure

[wild cliff]

Yep love it

We don't need to be bogged down with heavy RPG systems etc