Archived Thread - Light No Fire

[gritty thistle]

it has all the likeness of NMS in it and that i love

[silk crane]

I loved his tweet response to one of the comments

[grave needle]

Yup

[silk crane]

This one
https://fxtwitter.com/nomanssky/status/1733220157772734508?s=61

[velvet axle]

Yes 😂

If anyone has the right to poke fun at this kinda stuff though 😂

[silk crane]

Yep

[grave needle]

[gritty thistle]

i hate the standard every AAA dev has in releasing games broken than fixing later. at least indie devs polish the games first :)

[rose plover]

When holiday season is over you should name yourself Last Korvax Jod Mythos

[velvet axle]

I wouldn't go that far tbh. There's polished AAA games and also incredibly unpolished indie games 😛

[gritty thistle]

well im mainly looking at COD how they do yearly releases with barebones content. halo infinite.

anyway Light no fire

[grave needle]

Why jod?

[velvet axle]

🔥

[rose plover]

I’ll ping you in #memes🤡 when I find the picture

[gritty thistle]

HEY YOU CANT DO THAT

you put that fire out now

[grave needle]

[gritty thistle]

DID YOU JUST REACT NO TO ME?

😡

LMAO im dying

[rose plover]

Light no fire

Aka LNF

Aka Let’s not fight

Aka love never dies

[gritty thistle]

no no we were jokes

:)

[velvet axle]

Puts the weapons away yes, we were just joking!

[rose plover]

I was also joke

[gritty thistle]

takes multitool off your back yes totally

so it seems like

sean was like

"lets replace starships with flying dragons and creatures"

[rose plover]

Pretty much

[gritty thistle]

i wonder if we get lightning dragons and fire dragons and ice dragons!

OH NO

[rose plover]

And make a big earth instead of space

[velvet axle]

I think that definitely also helps set expectations for now 😄

[gritty thistle]

guys what if...

we start the game

and its like

[rose plover]

Customizable dragon

[gritty thistle]

$4.99 for lightning dragon!

😭

[rose plover]

They wouldn’t

[velvet axle]

I loved the implication that you can use your bow WHILE riding on dragonback. Which is an improvement on riding creatures in NMS.

[gritty thistle]

customizable dragons when :)

[rose plover]

At least I hope not

[gritty thistle]

XD

gahhh give me a release date sean plz

[velvet axle]

there

[gritty thistle]

OH MY

if its like nms

[velvet axle]

But I guess that might be akin to ship combat? But then bows. 😄

[rose plover]

If we can’t play as robot people I’m gonna be bunny

[gritty thistle]

yoo we get to min max our weapons to do 809418398 damage

[gritty thistle]

so from the trailer i saw. human,wolf or fox? bunny

i hope we get rat people

wait a minuite....

[velvet axle]

Also something with antlers, and a pig, I think

[rose plover]

If we can play as robot people I’m gonna say Aeron but different model (in different universe if needed)

[gritty thistle]

wait a minuite! sean must of seen my messages here about adding cat girls and stuff!

[tribal belfry]

I guess flying mounts will be a highly valuable late game asset.

[gritty thistle]

you can thank me for LNF later :)

/s

[rose plover]

lol

[velvet axle]

I do hope the progression is a bit slower than NMS in that regard tbh 😄

[gritty thistle]

i wonder if they will have Classes like C B A S

or it will be levels instead or rarity?

[velvet axle]

Not running into a dragon keeper who is like, I'm tired of dragons, so take mine 😛

(See freighter captains :P)

[tribal belfry]

That's fair

[gritty thistle]

i could see the letter classes be turned into rarity like normal common rare epic and legendary

you know

fantasy kinda stuff

[velvet axle]

Yeah, happy to see a few different weapon types too. After being stuck with multitools and still a multitool, but looks like a staff

Wonder how RPG-y it'll be

[gritty thistle]

i wonder if we will have 1,2,3,4,5 attack slots you know traditional rpg stuff

[velvet axle]

Good question. The UI was very clean and empty in that regard

[gritty thistle]

well on the bottom left we have temperature it looks like

[velvet axle]

So I'd lean more towards the usual light, heavy, block, but no idea ofc 😄

[gritty thistle]

hold on let me get it

[velvet axle]

Temperature and daytime, I believe, yeah

And biomes type maybe?

The leaf and water symbols

I was also curious about these

[silk crane]

Time till death

[velvet axle]

😄

[gritty thistle]

temperature Day/night and biome?

[velvet axle]

That should always be at one dot for me then 😄

[silk crane]

Lol

[velvet axle]

That's what I assumed as well 😄

[gritty thistle]

:D

going from no mans sky

[gritty thistle]

health?

[tribal belfry]

Would love an amphibious mount for the mid-game, to make crossing water possible while you don't have your flying mounts yet.

[gritty thistle]

those dots at the top could be health

[velvet axle]

Oh duh, yeah that makes sense

[gritty thistle]

since its in the same spot that it is in nms

[velvet axle]

Can't believe that didn't click in my head 😛

[gritty thistle]

DAMN they legit just said "hey our ui placement works in no mans sky lets keep it"

love it

[velvet axle]

😄

[gritty thistle]

gonna be nice not being stuck in a exosuit for once

i hope we get BIG plate armor!

[velvet axle]

I like how minimalist the design is though. Hope that also carries over to the inventory.

[silk crane]

I'm going to take so many pictures

[gritty thistle]

im rewatching the trailer for the 90th time

[silk crane]

Another ssd will be needed

[gritty thistle]

hmmm...

what if they expanded upon the npcs in settlements.

maybe we can take an area and have them build things for us

those all cant be players in the trailer can it?

[velvet axle]

This part at least looked like it was scripted. A 'setpiece' which NMS doesn't usually do.

[gritty thistle]

👀 i see big shield and sword

you know i just realized.

maybe the beast races could be androgynous (or genderless or whatever)

[velvet axle]

There is also a quick shot of a sword on fire. Right after they use the bow to shoot a creature.

[gritty thistle]

so its just up to us

for the gender

i think i saw male and female humans tho

[silk crane]

Disgusting humans

[gritty thistle]

FOX

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

YES

[velvet axle]

This character lighting a fire. Get them!

[gritty thistle]

this looks...oddly close to the language stones you can find in nms

[silk crane]

Knowledge Bro

[velvet axle]

it does seem to play into similar tropes as Atlas at least. Not saying they are connected, but god-like beings and big mysterious structures.

[gritty thistle]

imagine if its revealed that this is the earth that the atlas was made on

[velvet axle]

It's a clever hook though, cuz you see it from a distance, and you'll be like. Ohhh, what's that 👀

[gritty thistle]

deer man!

[velvet axle]

Oh deer

[gritty thistle]

reptile looking player

female

[velvet axle]

There's quite some diversity yeah

Also the badger likes ones later on

[silk crane]

I think it's a helmet

Or at least, one has a helmet on later with antlers

[gritty thistle]

WIZARD

gliders

[velvet axle]

I did see an antler helmet too, though here it seems to be attached to the skull

[gritty thistle]

yeah thats

[silk crane]

Deer Man!

[gritty thistle]

it has the antlers and the deer ears

god i just... love this shot

its so pretty

im gonna live in the mountains!

[velvet axle]

Hope they also keep (and or evolve) learning the languages from different races

[mint dune]

Intersting that they did go with humanoid animals design

[gritty thistle]

hippo man?

or shrek.

idk

[mint dune]

Vykeen 😆

[silk crane]

Haha, I just did a similar crop

[gritty thistle]

a greatsword?

oh and boats!

[mint dune]

From taht angle it looks more cat like

[gritty thistle]

ha

[wet flint]

Boats are awesome

[silk crane]

Yeah

[gritty thistle]

it has those smallish ears like a hippo has tho

GOD so many races to choose from it seems

:)

ok enough screenshotting the trailer im getting too hyped lmao

[silk crane]

[gritty thistle]

hypeeee

[wet flint]

Is there a demi-raccoon race

[velvet axle]

I do also think it's pretty insane that they've been developing this for five years alongside

[silk crane]

Trash Panda! I hope so

[wet flint]

[silk crane]

Right?

[mint dune]

I wonder if animal head will have some perks depending which you chose

[wet flint]

Maybe nightvision or something!

[velvet axle]

Peak efficiency 😄

[mint dune]

Spider-man!

[velvet axle]

Different adventages (and disadvantages) for races would be great. Would love to see that in NMS too tbh.

It would fit a bigger RPG focus.

[wet flint]

Clashes with the description though

Appearance modifier just bends light to change looks, it doesnt actually change us

[velvet axle]

True 😄

But in a future iteration 😛

[wet flint]

16/16/16/16

Anyway. I hope for trash Panda race

[velvet axle]

I saw someone point out that there's no catboy race and I was like 😭

[wet flint]

Well we dont know anything yet

[velvet axle]

Also true 😛

[wet flint]

There could be every possible demihuman race behind the curtains

Or non-human, for that matter

[mint dune]

Intresting that there is a human race. Human =anomaly?

[wet flint]

In LNF, not NMS

[velvet axle]

I did think the inclusion of humans was interesting, while NMS really avoids that

[wet flint]

There is no earth in NMS, so the definition of human doesnt really exist

NMS also has no genders though, at least in english. Which to be honest, isnt the worst way to handle it.

[velvet axle]

Fair on both accounts

[wet flint]

But since LNF is settled on earth, having humans makes sense. Aaaaah Im excited. HG sign me up for playtesting

[velvet axle]

An earth, right? They said it was bigger than our earth. 😄

[wet flint]

I thought they said it was the size of earth

[grave needle]

They didn't 😮

They said a planet as big as the earth

[wet flint]

[grave needle]

It's still a phat planet

[warm mountain]

Official site states it is a fantasy planet the size of earth

[wet flint]

Alright then, scratch what I said lol

All the more reason for nonhumans!

[warm mountain]

But trailer showed humans too. So we can assume classic fantasy stuff with an earth-like world with its own fantasy twists

[grave needle]

They're using the term "earth" to describe a lush biome spread across the circumference of a planet as big as the earth.

[torn trail]

i see u can play as bunny i buy game

[warm mountain]

Nearly every fantasy has some type of "human" characters there

[warm mountain]

Thiccness sliders in character creator when

[grave needle]

Meaning... they have created the larger singular map in the gramin history.

[warm mountain]

[torn trail]

booba slider when

[velvet axle]

OK, his phrasing could be read two ways, but he says: "As varied a planet- that is as varied as a universe. Something bigger than earth." at TGA. 😛

[warm mountain]

Singular Gleam

[grave needle]

lol

[mint dune]

bunny = gek . probably

[grave needle]

[wet flint]

Theres gonna be more biomes than lush though

[torn trail]

idc as long as i get to play as bunny

[wet flint]

Just start NMS and change to Gek

Same thing basically

[grave needle]

Yes! But they mean to say a fully functioning multi-biome, awesome freaking whoopaah planet. Oh grah fr fr!

[wet flint]

On Grah!

[warm mountain]

No cute fluffi tail. No cute floppy ears.

[wet flint]

how is there no grah emote

[mint dune]

Unlockable for side quest probably ;p

[velvet axle]

The most important thing though. Is that the cape doesn't clip through the character's backpack with certain bodysizes. 😛

[wet flint]

Lmaoo

Or other... Parts

Do we even have a Backpack?

[velvet axle]

Almost every character in the trailer has the same backpack

[grave needle]

Dragons

Light no fire...

[velvet axle]

Though there were 1/2 with a different one 😄

[grave needle]

Dragons...

Survival...

Bruhhh!

A game of ice and fire

[mint dune]

Looks like there is a backpack

[wet flint]

Mythos no, give me the gasoline

[grave needle]

Winter is coming.

[grave needle]

There are many backpacks.

🎒

[velvet axle]

So, that's what George was doing while not finishing the books 😭

[wet flint]

With a fantasy theme, could easily be a quest for transformation

[grave needle]

Yeah! He was finishing the game.

He was trying to figure out how to complete the exploration guide mission in NMS

[velvet axle]

😂 😂

[mint dune]

Well. Good luck..😆

[grave needle]

The game is called "Light No Fire", the trailer literally shows a Gek like dude walking with a flaming torch.

I say sus!

[velvet axle]

Ban that character!

[grave needle]

lol

[wet flint]

Youre just nitpicking

[velvet axle]

I feel like No Man's Sky and Light No Fire are just challenging us to do the opposite

The goal is to uh man the sky and light everything on fire 😛

[mint dune]

Rohan fire beacon

[grave needle]

Floating base building confirmed

[mint dune]

Game logo a literal torch or brazier

[grave needle]

Friend entity @fleet ocean here's a base idea for you.

[grave needle]

No, it's a ball on a skewed caltrop!

[velvet axle]

All jokes aside though, it's insane that this has become HG's most-viewed video in 18 or so hours

Wait no, a bit more. Math

[grave needle]

Yeah!

[mint dune]

Imo its a torch.

[grave needle]

Where do you see a ball in that?

I'm trolling

Also, the orb reminds me of something but I can't put a dinger on it.

[mint dune]

Hmmmm

[gritty thistle]

i cant waiiiiit

[rose plover]

Big red ball, reminds me of PE those things always flew straight at my face

[velvet axle]

How about the fact that they snuck a man person in there to show how they've evolved from No Man's Sky?

[grave needle]

Yeah! It's massive

[velvet axle]

😄

[mint dune]

And the hand death stranding style

[velvet axle]

The fact that there's a No in the title again got a good chuckles out of me when I first watched the trailer tbh

[grave needle]

The iconism in this image is something else

It's the hand of god meeting AI (I'm assuming)

[velvet axle]

I saw someone do a few paragraph rant in the YT comments that the iconography was childish. And I was like, you need more fun in your life. 😭 HG has always been like: we design game as a kid would dream them up. That's half the fun.

[grave needle]

Hand of god, finger of god, that painting with two dudes trying to boop finger.

[grave needle]

Pretty much the truth from HG.

[tribal belfry]

So sistine chapel?

[warm mountain]

Literally this. HGs games are always some childish vision that nobody in their right mind would actually attempt doing because of the sheer ambition 😅

[grave needle]

lol something like that! 😅

[mint dune]

Light No FIRE... Hand reaching out for torch with flame... smells like some twisted prometheus myth interpretation

[grave needle]

lol

Gunter agrees

[tribal belfry]

Plausible

[velvet axle]

So, we've got five people here today. Gee, Brain. What are we going to do? The same thing we do every day, make a universe with a near-unlimited amount of planets. 😄

[warm mountain]

Sean No Murray

[grave needle]

🤣

Well nobody can please everybody, unless they use powerful psychic mind tricks and cleopatra level charm and charisma.

[velvet axle]

That's a big unless, but also yes 😄

[mint dune]

Or drug them with pheromones

[grave needle]

Beat me by a fraction of a second... time dilation is real.

[velvet axle]

In a different iteration, you were first. Or was it last?

[grave needle]

Last

Always the last

Last light to no fire.

[wet flint]

Last to light no fire

[grave needle]

Yoooo! No

[velvet axle]

You won that one

[wet flint]

[grave needle]

[mint dune]

Light no fire at last campfire to look at no mans sky

[wet flint]

No Mans Sky is a really cool name though

[velvet axle]

Their naming conventions are very clever. Nobody is going to confuse "No Man's Sky" and "Light No Fire" with other games.

Unlike Shadow of the [x], Rise or Fall of the [y] etc.

[grave needle]

I confused LNF with NFL earlier...

[wet flint]

Yesss name it after me

[gritty thistle]

light no fire...

the darksouls opposite

where you dont link the flame :)

everything remains beautiful lmao

[warm mountain]

Rise of the Flame.

[wet flint]

Maybe one where you do like the opposite? Extinguish all the fires

[warm mountain]

Flame of the Flame!

[grave needle]

I hab a name

[warm mountain]

Last no Korvax

[velvet axle]

Let's be real it would be [Fictional word]: Rise of the Flame if you've seen the last video from Second Wind 😄

[grave needle]

I hab a name.

[mint dune]

Some other undead will do it for you. The cycle remains unbroken

[gritty thistle]

:)

[wet flint]

Playing as undead could be interesting

[grave needle]

LNF had undead

[mint dune]

Flame .... dear flame...

[gritty thistle]

oh yea it had skelebros

[grave needle]

Skeletons and black floaty things

[velvet axle]

Undead and skeletons are a great fantasy trope tbh

[wet flint]

Oh true

[warm mountain]

Sword of Zoron: The Legend of Fire Without Light

Ultimate Edition

[wet flint]

Still gonna chose Trashpanda

[velvet axle]

The black floaty thingies with eyes in the trailer were very creepy yes

[gritty thistle]

i cant wait to play this sean plz

[grave needle]

Lmao!

[gritty thistle]

i hope we dont have to wait until 2025 :)

[grave needle]

The "Ultimate Edition" was cherry on top

[wet flint]

Meanwhile concealed HG employee nr 53627 peeking here is like 'hehehe they so stupid got it all wrong"

[wet flint]

Its gonna come out before GTA 6 just wait

[wet flint]

Rock

[grave needle]

Nah! They're good!

[wet flint]

No, we are stupid xd

[gritty thistle]

it would of been epic as hell if after the trailer sean was like "and it goes into early access tonight we learned from our mistakes in the beginning of no mans sky and we are going to develop the rest of the game along side you. the players."

[mint dune]

Meanwhile in 2026 :
Sean: you know what ? The title was stupid. Lets change it. To NMS2

[grave needle]

You don't see what the rock is cooking? No wonder you can't see it.

[gritty thistle]

the crowd cheers

[wet flint]

Me blind

[warm mountain]

What do you think of this? Could he have seen some behind the scenes gameplay even?

[velvet axle]

Shadow drops are a blast, yeah

[warm mountain]

Ryan was the guy who did all the early gameplay things with Sean about NMS all those years ago

[gritty thistle]

god damn im ready

[wet flint]

I mean thats no new info

[gritty thistle]

lmao

im so hyped aaaaaaa

[grave needle]

There's only one thing I can think of... "inside out NMS"... so basically it's a planet where we explore the universe.

[warm mountain]

Yee but like... did he see more than us or was it just the trailer and stuff with Sean speaking one to one with Ryan

[grave needle]

And there are 18 quintillion universes.

[wet flint]

Staaaaaahp Im getting cramps from unknowingness

[gritty thistle]

so will the world work where like. you generate it randomly? or will it be the same for everyone

[mint dune]

And dont forget about multiverses.

[grave needle]

Pay no attention.

[wet flint]

How

[warm mountain]

Same for everyone. Persistent building etc.

Says the official site

[gritty thistle]

🤔

[grave needle]

That's going to be the next IP

Pay No Attention.

[velvet axle]

Imagine telling people at NMS launch that we'd be here again 7+ years from now. With 12312831209 NMS updates under our belt and speculating about their next game.

[wet flint]

Omfg

[gritty thistle]

i need this game now

[grave needle]

[gritty thistle]

i need

[wet flint]

Neeeeeed

[warm mountain]

Same

giib

[wet flint]

Gib me

[grave needle]

Yeah the game has reached far beyond the realms of want. It's deep into the realm of need.

[mint dune]

I have other games to play in the meantime.thankfuly

[grave needle]

Need No Delay.

[gritty thistle]

i had a dream i was playing it last night :(

[grave needle]

Sean Better Deliver.

Need Game Now.

[gritty thistle]

im confident

[wet flint]

Guys I uncovered it, Mythos is the hidden HG employee lmao

[gritty thistle]

that its gonna be good

[grave needle]

Hi confident.

[mint dune]

Light No Hype

[gritty thistle]

hi last!

[grave needle]

I'm not a dad!

[wet flint]

You are now

[velvet axle]

For their third game No should be the third word in the title though. NO man's sky, light NO fire, something something NO

[warm mountain]

One happy fact!

Sean said a few years ago when first teasing this that they don't wish for a lengthy marketing campaign like they had with NMS.

Also they wouldn't dare to show any gameplay of the game unless the things in it were 100% solidified and going to be in it now. Hence the game must actually be near the finishing stage of localization, bug fixing etc.

[grave needle]

Not A Dad! I didn't adopt you.

[wet flint]

Yeah that would be weird

[warm mountain]

Based on this, we could literally see this game coming out in 2024

[gritty thistle]

pog

[wet flint]

Superpog

[gritty thistle]

i hope the system requirements arent like

[grave needle]

Wait, Sean had tasted this game in the past?

[gritty thistle]

starfield levels

[wet flint]

Mythos do it with me

[grave needle]

Kinky!

[warm mountain]

2 years ago Sean told they were "making a game as ambitious as NMS" and "which would seem impossible even with 1000 person team"

[grave needle]

[wet flint]

DAFUQ

The kannapog

[gritty thistle]

hype :D

[wet flint]

[grave needle]

Holy crap! I did not know this.

Me No Know!

[warm mountain]

https://www.ign.com/articles/hello-games-new-project-is-ambitious-seem-impossible-even-with-1000-person-team

here's the very first "tease" of LNF

[wet flint]

Even with 1000 people and they have like 10

[grave needle]

49 last I read

[wet flint]

Not all Of them on LNF

[mint dune]

Classic Sean

[velvet axle]

49? Interesting! I've not seen that number thrown around before.

[wet flint]

Its a doubledigit

[velvet axle]

Biggest I had heard were 25 and 27

[grave needle]

The thing is, Sean is not business savvy, or he wasn't at that time. This statement sounds very rookie-like.

[mint dune]

Yeah. Around 50 is also my last info.

[wet flint]

Thats why you hire people who know stuff

[grave needle]

Yeah!

[wet flint]

And Sean is like family

[warm mountain]

Entire team behind Light No Fire

[mint dune]

And you need other pepole than coders

[wet flint]

I told you, 10 people

Okay a bit more but the point remains!

[mint dune]

"LNF team " is not whole hello games team

[grave needle]

Back then the tech was still in development and we didn't have quantum computers. LNF in 2024 is... well, powered by AI using quantum tunneling and quantum entanglement to solve the mysteries of the universe and simulate several universes to answer the long asked question on life, the universe, and everything.

[warm mountain]

Tru tru. HG is around 40 ppl. LinkedIn tells the exact amount

[wet flint]

Stop reading your doctors thesis

[mint dune]

And at 2013 there was 4 peps in HG ...

[grave needle]

Interesting how Sean's jaw is stuck in the same position ever since the first pic of NMS dev team.

[wet flint]

LMAOOO

[grave needle]

Sean in his old age!

[mint dune]

Easy. The answer is 16.

[wet flint]

[grave needle]

[wet flint]

No u

[grave needle]

16 is not the answer, it's the question.

Light no fire, friend entity @mint dune

[wet flint]

And the answer is

[grave needle]

Ooohhhhhhhhhhh!

Light no fire = don't angry me.

[wet flint]

Wtf eben

[grave needle]

Yes!

||eben was nicer.||

[mint dune]

Answer always gives more questions

[wet flint]

There. Because I like you

[grave needle]

Light no fire!

https://tenor.com/view/jumping-hug-hugs-and-kisses-jump-hug-love-gif-25273895

[wet flint]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-burn-gif-5103666

[grave needle]

HOLY CRAP GIFs WORK HERE!

[mint dune]

https://tenor.com/view/no-man's-sky-gek-dance-dancing-no-man's-sky-dance-gif-7913467600866338528

[wet flint]

I will attempt to ignite every possible object as soon as I get into the game

[grave needle]

LOL!

[wet flint]

Must... Burn...

[grave needle]

Cruel. Completely cruel.

[wet flint]

Maybe. Result of a shattered mind

[grave needle]

No!

Please no.

😦

[wet flint]

What no?

[mint dune]

Flame purges all

[grave needle]

I have bad memories, please remove that emoji.

[wet flint]

Of course

[grave needle]

Thank you

[wet flint]

Flame equalizes

[grave needle]

Flame is honest!

Unbiased!

[wet flint]

In the end, all returns to ash

[grave needle]

But we must light no fire.

[mint dune]

Flame dont judges

[warm mountain]

Probably dislocated it?

[mint dune]

To late

[warm mountain]

poor Sean

[grave needle]

[warm mountain]

A

[wet flint]

Flame doesnt differentiate between rich and poor, old or young. All becomes equally ash.

[grave needle]

I don't like this emoji, it shows Sean has yellow toofs!

[wet flint]

[grave needle]

But I'll use it anyway

[wet flint]

[mint dune]

Yep. LNF is dark souls 3. I knew it

[grave needle]

lol

If we were to make a comparison, it's minecraft on steroids.

Kthnxbye

[wet flint]

You stay here

[mint dune]

No nono Get back here

[grave needle]

I did that deliberately...

How people compare NMS to MC

[mint dune]

Oh ok

Proc gen is like only common element

[wet flint]

And exploring, open world...

[grave needle]

I'm gonna go watch professor cynical's review of LNF trailer for some anger management.

XD

[wet flint]

Uuuh... Sure. Ill just pour gasoline everywhere while youre doing that

[grave needle]

lol

Don't light it though

Light no fire

[wet flint]

Astaroth, wanna help? I definitely dont have malicious intent

I would never

[grave needle]

Sure

[mint dune]

Firestarter music starts playing 😈

[wet flint]

What, dont believe me?

[grave needle]

lol

I believe you will. Source: trust me bro!

[wet flint]

Blasterjaxx - Burn it to the ground

[wet flint]

Thats how you know its real

[mint dune]

Skrillex make it bun dem

[mild mango]

Given how many animal species seem playable, this is basically the Dawn of Zootopia.

[wet flint]

I am not opposed

[mild mango]

Even if no PvP exists, I can see groups of the same species just joining up into their own cities/tribes/ect.

[wet flint]

I didnt even think of that! Genius idea actually, may happen

Sean, HG, whoever is listening, please roll any version out as soon as possible before I die from excitement

[mint dune]

And race wars... trash pandas vs pandas.

[wet flint]

My dream is to become a trashpanda who deals illegal items to anyone who pays the right price

[mild mango]

As someone said many years ago online, "It truly isn't a proper fantasy game unless you have some form of elves vs. dwarves where two sides despise each other for petty reasons".

[mint dune]

So a gek with fur ? Lol

[wet flint]

No! No gek >:(

Raccoon, the brown one

[mild mango]

inb4 people fall for tropes and inevitably ensure the stereotypes animals are known for as intact here.

[wet flint]

I hope they have caves one can live in

[mild mango]

Still, odds are it'll start with people forming camps/tribal villages first to survive the elements/beasts, and then the fun begins.

And depending on how much resource-wise it takes to build things bigger/more complex than simple tools/weapons/clothing/huts, it'll be obvious to want to team up with others/work together for bigger things.

[torn trail]

To survive the weather too, if they add storms and tornados like in NMS

[wet flint]

Anything really

Oooooooh please release soon!

[mild mango]

I'm ready for the idea of having to discover/invent new things together, and the group going full twitch chat-tier crazy whenever something big is invented/discovered.

[mint dune]

I wonder how complex the "survival " will be

[mild mango]

At the least you likely have to deal with hunger, cold/heat and not dying from beasts/ect.

[wet flint]

Yeah. Hunger meter? Temperature? Immediately die because eaten wrong plant?

[torn trail]

The UI showed cold meters

[wet flint]

Uhuhu! Thats spicy

[mild mango]

Essentially you'll likely have to focus first on getting proper clothing for protection, shelter, food/water, the usuals.

[torn trail]

If you spawn in a desert you'd probably find a fire asap or the night will freeze you

[wet flint]

And a pool for the day, or shade at least

[mint dune]

Cave diving with no equipment ...

[wet flint]

YEEEEES

[mild mango]

Don't be shocked if someone makes a large base/farm/ect. and new players flock to it for ez safety/food/warmth to form communities.

[wet flint]

I mean sure, but I will at least try not to

Fighting for life is fun, if you have an actual chance to win.

[mint dune]

Inn build idea .

[mild mango]

Just like irl, once you start to get some villages forming with people and the fear of starving/death/ect. is no longer there 24/7, that's when the actual fun, inventing and building begins.

[wet flint]

And there we return to the topic of land claiming

[mint dune]

Then you rent buildings... EZ money

[mild mango]

Less-so that, and more-so "people begin to actually expand their villages into proper towns, and see things grow from there."

[mild mango]

inb4 going full British having to tax people for whatever the game's version of gold is to keep land.

[wet flint]

Game had Voxelbuilding right?

[mild mango]

Still if towns or even full-on cities/kingdoms begin to form, the downfall of them like every irl empire ever will be infighting and usual petty reasons destroying itself from the inside out.

As World of Warcraft guild veterans can tell you, nothing destroys entire giant groups faster than infighting.

[mint dune]

The building limit is big mistery tho

[shy pasture]

Thats awesome

[mint dune]

It will be at least as big as in NMS i think. At least it should.

[wet flint]

Thats why I dont plan on joining any

[mild mango]

Also odds are what gets built/how people build will likely depend on the biome you're in.

Since what people built in a forest will be different from in snowy mountains, deserts, ect. due to resources.

[wet flint]

Skreeeeeee I need to get off this chat or I will explode from hype

[mild mango]

That is actually part of what excites me about the game too. The idea of having to actually learn to adapt to the land, master it and build to handle whatever environment you start in.

[torn trail]

I agree, it's also possible that some recipes of important items will be made using different biomes resources

[gritty thistle]

i cant waittttt aaaaaaaaaaaaa

[mild mango]

As an example, having a desert biome where you need to handle the weather, and also lack of water/ect.

[wet flint]

YESSSSSS the combo of so many great ideas here and the uncertainty makes me crazy

[mild mango]

Some player building an entire river/canal to get water flowing to a base or village to ensure life can flow/exist there.

Or in other words, a full simulation of how humanity can settle down in any place in existence when stubborn enough to keep going til a settlement/base/ect. is made.

Also love the idea of a group of players bent on turning a desert into a full oasis village.

[gritty thistle]

if its that kinda game im gonna be a bandit for sure

[wet flint]

Im gonna be that weird shady guy who lives in the nowhere and sells illegal things

[gritty thistle]

:)

[mild mango]

As for me? My goal is to make a road that goes around the planet to ensure people have a safe path around the world.

Essentially a "if you want to get from A to B safely, take this path" endgoal.

[wet flint]

Also: proximity voicechat

[torn trail]

Can the server handle millions of players building enormous things?

[silk crane]

Ok Sam

[torn trail]

And load everything multiple times per second each time a person goes into infrastructure built by others

[silk crane]

No

[gritty thistle]

it will most likley be how no mans sky handles MP in systems

[mild mango]

Just like the idea of building a road/path connecting villages/cities/ect.

[wet flint]

Is this a death stranding reference

[silk crane]

Yes

[wet flint]

Finally I got a reference

[silk crane]

Nice!

[mild mango]

Also might build a library as well, if the game allows for book writing/ect.

[wet flint]

Oh yeah Gleam, hows the server going? Any news?

[silk crane]

Fine tuning, don't want to make some big thing to start with - bare minimum for Community and onboarding requirements, some automod rules and such

[wet flint]

What are the reqs?

[weary elbow]

what server? ootl.

[wet flint]

For LNF duh

[weary elbow]

ohhhhhh

[silk crane]

X amount of channels visible to all, rules channel, security settings and the like

[weary elbow]

brain fart moment

[wet flint]

[gritty thistle]

:D

[warm mountain]

I'm a big fan of this high level of furry bait.

[wet flint]

Ooh, I thought you meant reqs for peeps to join

[silk crane]

Plus, we have to work with Timezones, so need some other eyes yet, before it's pub

[warm mountain]

Heck. Imagine writing a book or letter, leaving it on some random rock or at a cave entrance for someone to eventually find

[silk crane]

Like I said, I'm shooting for today - we'll see how it goes

[wet flint]

I understand

[weary elbow]

nice

give us a ping when the server's live

[warm mountain]

Saddest part of LNF is that there are no Roamer Exocrafts ;-;

[wet flint]

Who knows!

[silk crane]

Role leveling will be a thing - but the names for the roles won't be set until we get more game info

[mild mango]

At the least, it seems obvious there'll be plenty of mounts to have, both normal and mythical.

[weary elbow]

probably something similar. ridable wolves perchance?

[warm mountain]

LNF terminology names I assume? Once public information

[silk crane]

Aye

[wet flint]

[silk crane]

At the least, ones that can make sense to the settting/lore

[wild cliff]

DRAGONS

[wet flint]

With my luck, youll open it when Im asleep I bet

[weary elbow]

just do this server's role names till we got something more concrete

[silk crane]

I'll try my best

[silk crane]

No way!

[warm mountain]

tbh am really happy thisnis the type of game that they're making. Been having that itch for a new RPG set in this type of "medieval/historic/non-technology era"

[wet flint]

All good I appreciate you guys already preparing a server

[silk crane]

Maybe a Squire/Knight/Baron Baroness sort of deal to place hold

[warm mountain]

Squirrel

[wet flint]

Shady dealer needs to exist

[warm mountain]

DRAGONS

[silk crane]

Those won't be part of the leveling names, as it's a different sort of game it's likely that we have actual race roles assignable as more of those details come out - but we'll talk about everything suggested

[warm mountain]

dragon wagons

[mild mango]

Also we get to play as deer too.

Given the antlers.

[wet flint]

WHAT

[warm mountain]

oh deer

[mild mango]

Yeah, you can see the antlers/ect. during the trailer.

[wet flint]

But still biped

[mild mango]

Don't be shocked if it's minimal human players and mostly animal folk.

[weary elbow]

DEER GANG RISE UP

[warm mountain]

are those deer ears?

under the antlers

[wet flint]

Please, I wont object

[weary elbow]

also OTTER

[wet flint]

I wont play a human either

[warm mountain]

ODDR!

[mild mango]

OTTER BOIS

[wet flint]

OTTER

[weary elbow]

FROG

[warm mountain]

I love some otters with THICC tails

[mild mango]

inb4 every animal in the animal kingdom people care about are playable races.

[weary elbow]

lol

[mild mango]

Be ready later on for lion bois.

[warm mountain]

Yay

[mild mango]

inb4 massive kingdom ruled by lion player.

And to take the throne you have to beat the current ruler in 1v1 combat.

[weary elbow]

bear

[wet flint]

Any Raccoon sightings??

[torn trail]

I will choose to be an elephant

[weary elbow]

badger

[warm mountain]

badger badger badger badger

mushroom mushroom

[mild mango]

We truly /zootopia/ now.

[weary elbow]

FOX

no way

or wolf

[torn trail]

There's a giant blue squid right at the beginning, I cant send pictures unfortunately

[weary elbow]

this guy?

also pig

[torn trail]

Yes!!!

[weary elbow]

we need to compile all these races

[mild mango]

Essentially the entire animal kingdom is now playable races.

Biggest news so far.

All it needs now is 🐴 race and it's gg no re.

[weary elbow]

also, i haven't seen anyone mention this dude yet. hes just sitting there???

[wet flint]

Hes waiting for game release

[weary elbow]

solidarity

o7

[mild mango]

Also someone said something in another discord that made me laugh hard: "This is basically if Biomutant was done right."

[wet flint]

o7

[warm mountain]

FOPSISE!!!!

🦊

[wet flint]

Its been two days. And we are already compiling races

[mild mango]

inb4 the plot is "the human race did a giant oof moment, and now the animal kingdom has evolved to rebuild."

[weary elbow]

what can i say. hype

[frail forge]

Heads up, we may transition this thread to a channel of its own. Still in the General category, likely still under #other-games. This thread can remain for reference, so we won't lock it down...

[warm mountain]

hiii Red No Hot

[mild mango]

Pog, new channel.

[weary elbow]

not a new server? i heard gleam was making one

[warm mountain]

Secret info

[silk crane]

Still will have a server, don't worry

[weary elbow]

so both a channel here and a server, got it

[silk crane]

Aye, the channel would be for ease of access without the auto archiving and weirdness threads can bring

Plus, unlike our other threads, this is an HG game

[gritty thistle]

thats a fox i saw it and squealed

[weary elbow]

this is the best thing that has ever happened to anyone

[hushed fossil]

I’m so hyped still XD

[wet flint]

I spent the last two hours here, imagine my hype level

Silver Zephyr wouldnt stop drawing these amazing stories for the game lol

[hushed fossil]

Imma need to scroll up and read then ascend to your hype level 😆

[wet flint]

You got a lot to read up

[gleaming tartan]

This game looks like my dream game. I'm so pumped. I have nothing useful to add, just hype

[warm mountain]

Same here!

It feels so silly. First HG decides to make one of my dream games I never thought would be attempted (NMS).

Then 7 years later they announce yet another of my dream games.

Literally the best studio ever

[wet flint]

Yes 💯 to all the above

[steel light]

this game will be masterpeace💯

hops its come out 2024

[gleaming tartan]

That's what they announced. Hoping there isn't a delay

[steel light]

i dont se some info about it where can i read it

[gleaming tartan]

Apparently it's been quietly in development for 5 years, so crossing fingers they will have it finished

[mint dune]

No release date . No delays

[gleaming tartan]

They just gave a vague "coming 2024" no actual release date. If it doesn't come out until 2025 I would consider that a delay

[mint dune]

2024 is for nms content

Not LNF

[steel light]

if they have work with game in 5 year in some luck we can play it 2024=)

[shrewd rain]

They kept LNF a secret for 5 years, unlike NMS

So it probably won't take long for it to come out

[mint dune]

Imo LNF will be released 2026

10 years after NMS

[steel light]

💯

[left herald]

ngl im pretty stoked for this, was showing my son cos its something we could play together

[gleaming tartan]

Yeah that's why I'm most excited. Looks like a great game to play with my kids

[steel light]

and world will take some time to explore real big one that best of the best

[abstract marsh]

Curious how far off it is, I expect a lot of tech built for NMS is being reused so it won't take as long to develop as it isn't from scratch in comparison

[steel light]

and building look great to

[gleaming tartan]

I'm just concerned that it will be series x only. Our family has only one series x and two xbox ones.

[abstract marsh]

Ill be playing it on PC, speaking of actually I hope it runs nicely on Linux/Steamdeck

[steel light]

in video they play 6 player so game gave good progress

[abstract marsh]

They seem to have shown interest in Steamdeck though

[marble mica]

Few questions - this appeared to be 3rd person - do we know if that is confirmed? Also, any idea if this is being eyed for PS?

[abstract marsh]

3rd person also may well be for trailer shots, I think a lot of NMS trailers are 3rd person view. But I got the impression the coming out of the water scene was 1st person.

[gleaming tartan]

It looks like it will probably be both 1st and 3rd.

[steel light]

thats great new to if we can play botht 1 and 3 person mode

[marble mica]

It would be pretty great if they implemented both to appeal to both sides of the coin.

It seems like world of warcraft, but bigger in scope and more action based combat.

[wet flint]

I sure hope we get more animations for this than in Nms

[abstract marsh]

Not sure I would describe it like WoW tbh, not the impression I have anyway

More like No Mans Valheim was my impression

With some animal taming which is probably where some of the Ark mentions are coming from. If its something like that I expect I will like it. Curious about the building system, in NMS it feels more cosmetic rather than functional. Would be nice to be a bit more functional.

[wet flint]

It works to keep weather out, but thats mainly it. Very excited for LNF

Iirc LNF will have Voxel building

[mild mango]

Honestly, what would be cool for this game, is to start with basic wood and stone tech/buildings/ect. And as the game goes on, we get "ages" where new tech is introduced/"invented" to slowly expand the game and also see civilization slowly expand and change.

[wet flint]

I assume thats what we get

[abstract marsh]

I don't know what you would progress to beyond wood/stone buildings really, even NMS the only extra material for building is aluminium

Oh, and glass

[wet flint]

Better wood lol

[warm mountain]

Tbh the most tech I'd wish would be steampunk stuff at best.

Mixing modern or futuristic stuff in a medieval/old timey fantasy seems off

[silk crane]

yeah

[mild mango]

Going from basic wood/stone tools and buildings, to slowly trying out metals like bronze and iron, and learning how to farm and more fancy stuff later.

[abstract marsh]

Hah, I mean it would be nice to have cheap rough cut log walls and then being able to make nicely cut boards I guess.

[wet flint]

Some semblance of machinery would be nice

[mild mango]

I'd say going from stone age to industrial revolution at furthest.

[wet flint]

Thats too far even

[warm mountain]

Steampunk or some magic-based tech fits perfectly in this type of games

[wet flint]

But its all just speculation anyway

Magic!

[mild mango]

I do like this idea somewhat. Starting with basic grass/dirt/mud/ect. huts, learning to use logs for viking-era styled homes, and then learning to cut/refine logs into more fitting furniture and homes.

[warm mountain]

elder scrolls series has steampunk stuff with the dwarven race for example. It's tame enough tech to not seem off-putting

[analog laurel]

Fantasy games don't need tech. NMS has that covered already

[warm mountain]

exactly

[wet flint]

Ehh, a bit of tech can compliment fantasy

[mild mango]

I imagine for the early game something truly fancy/impressive tech-wise will be irrigation for farming/ect. Building your own canals/ect.

[wet flint]

Hell yeah, water

grabs minecraft shovel

[mild mango]

And now I imagine someone building an entire city that uses a complex system of canals/ect. to travel around it.

[wet flint]

Venice MK 2?

[mild mango]

Ye.

[wet flint]

Dude honestly go apply at HG, your ideas are great

[warm mountain]

I remember a game called Citadel Forged With Fire which was like a fantasy Ark.

You could automate farms by having floaty magical plot watering and fertilizing machines that used magic crystals as power.

[silk crane]

I like the excitment, but thats a big jump from the trailer we saw, to a canal city

[wet flint]

Im hoping for minimal automatisation, mainly for like... Water collecting and the like

[mild mango]

If you can dig the ground and water flows where there are openings, canals are possible.

[warm mountain]

Just wait until people start asking for massive cities

(city planet enthusiasts migrating to NMS)

[wet flint]

If we get proper water and not just a global level like in NMS

[warm mountain]

Personally I'm more excited about exploring this fresh new world, discovering the lore and learning about the worlds history, races and such.

Building is secondary unless it'll have more functionality than NMS

[mild mango]

If we can get to do farming, learning how to handle water is inevitable.

[wet flint]

Im conflicted. We know too little yet

[mild mango]

Otherwise, I can see a lot of communities/tribes/ect. forming around areas of water for ez farming.

[wet flint]

But one thing I am definitely looking to see is properly plantfilled biomes.

NMSs idea is to plant five trees and call it a day

[warm mountain]

Heck. So much stuff we haven't seen yet. There could be those classic fantasy locations like a dark foggy forest biome with spooki skeletons and spirits

[mild mango]

I'm ready for some streamer day 1 to spawn in the middle of basically Antarctica and have 5 minutes to find a way to survive.

[warm mountain]

Imagine finding such a thick forest where you couldn't see the sun and only a few meters forward due to the fog

[wet flint]

We have seen pretty much nothing! Maybe a desert or a rainforest?

[wet flint]

Gimme

Ooooh yeah, frosty desert!

[warm mountain]

Yeah! And they're boasting a whole eart sized planet with unique and varied biomes!

[wet flint]

EPIC GAMER MOMENT

[warm mountain]

heccle

[mild mango]

inb4 we get a fay forest and essentially anyone who enters is considered a lost cause because faeiries be dangerous, yo.

[wet flint]

Unless you have like, charm resistance

[wet flint]

I want to build a treehouse in a massive jungle tree and slide down a rope every morning

[mild mango]

From what I've heard so far, I've seen two sides to how to handle the world. One side just wanting to explore, vibe with nature and just take it in. And the other side wanting to tame the world and bend it into civilization. Or as one UK guy on another Discord I lurk on said, "We are going to conquere this world and claim it for the Queen."

[gleaming tartan]

I'm excited for the roleplay community for this game

[warm mountain]

Then one day you hear chop chop, look down and see a little bunny swinging their cute little axe

[mild mango]

British Empire 2: Electric Boogaloo.

[wet flint]

I just want to bend it as far so it doesnt constantly try to kill me

[warm mountain]

I'll totally live as my character for sure.

[gleaming tartan]

Maybe I sound start making a "light no fire roleplay community" discord now

[wet flint]

Noooooo

[marble mica]

so they have mentioned on their website that the game is full of lore, and in one scene the party is walking as npc's bow before them. That makes me think there will be quests/objectives, and also sporadic expoloration.

[wet flint]

Whats your char?

[warm mountain]

Depends what they'll have to offer once the game is out. So far I'm leaning towards the otter or fox/wolf race

[gleaming tartan]

It would be hard to design a character without knowing anything about the lore or setting

[wet flint]

I wanna be a raccoon :3

[gleaming tartan]

I'm going to be a rabbit for sure though

[warm mountain]

yisss

[warm mountain]

trash pandas!

[mild mango]

Watch as you can either respect nature and follow along, or go full Ferngully "screw nature, I'm running it over and building a hotel on the remains".

[marble mica]

@wet flint We have a raccoon race in the board game we are desinging at BCG :p

[wet flint]

🦝

[wet flint]

Uuh... Invite or something?

[warm mountain]

There's so many races to choose from. It'll be a hard pick

[mild mango]

Oh boi, channel is up now.

[wet flint]

I have like a range I want one of, Im prepared

[wet flint]

Ha?

[frail forge]

Okay, guys. A new channel for Light No Fire is all set. Along with all other pins, please review the pinned rules although if you've been here long enough, I hope you're already acquainted with them

We'll make sure to continue adding important news there, including a link to the Light No Fire Discord server, which we'll also pin in that channel.

[marble mica]

There's not much out there we shared publicly except some beta versions of the game we took to various conventions around the United States.

[marble mica]

Awesome, heading over there

[steel light]

❤️

[tame urchin]

any system requirements of game?

[odd seal]

First, wait for the game to release.

[tame urchin]

ok

[frail forge]

Friendly reminder: As mentioned above, we have a new channel for Light No Fire. Along with all pins, please review the rules.

Let's move all discussion there even if this thread is currently unarchived for reference. It shall auto-archive after inactivity. We'll make sure to continue adding important news in #light-no-fire, including a link to the Light No Fire Discord server, which we'll also pin in there.

[woeful crane]

https://tenor.com/view/fizzer1k-5597-3689-move-along-nothing-to-seehere-gif-12353147

[silk crane]

!lnflink

[unkempt fog]

https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[unkempt vortex]

That's it

I'm going to Light A Fire

[regal geode]

hmmmmm

[fickle nova]

The real logo for LNF.

[frail forge]

Everyone, please be mindful we have a new channel dedicated for #light-no-fire

Let's move all discussion and fun posts like these to that channel.

Cc @fickle nova @regal geode

We may have to lock this thread to avoid further confusion, although folks won't be able to reference it as easily.

Archived Thread - Light No Fire

👉🏼 (New) Dedicated Channel: #light-no-fire

This thread will auto-archive within 24 hours. 🔒 But we may have to lock it if folks continue posting in it.

[regal geode]

sorry I didn't see it when i posted the image ._.

[fickle nova]

I got confused with which was which lol.

[languid creek]

Is it really archived if I can still type...?
6 horas!!

[light talon]

💀

[frail forge]

That's the whole point. It was going to auto-archive if folks stopped typing in it. Soooo, we'll lock it accordingly

🔒 Thread's officially locked.

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