#nms-expedition
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@calm flax hello again friend, I've made touchdown on that gorgeous purple planet we spoke of the other day. Not seeing any base computers though, thinking we didnt go over what mode your farm is in. ๐
I'm clearly dumb... lol. Thanks!
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what platform are you on?
PC. However I visited on my expedition save.
It's all cross play btw.
It being on your normal save is why I wont see it. But that's ok I have a good spot to build thanks to you. ๐
I pictured spongebob asking that just now. ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
I'm not sure I fully understand what bug you speak of, i apologize.
polos still broken, i had manually saved and selected said save and it didnt work
i straight up cannot get the hyperdrive
Great ๐๐ผ
it should be fine, final reward claimable and all that.
ok cool
Quick question: for the living freighter, will it replace my current freighter?
if you're still here, can you describe step by step what happened? was this on a first playthrough or after a death or what? which milestones were you able to complete before trying to talk to Polo?
On my first expedition save I just bought another ship and it had the hyperdrive installed. I did that before I got the hyperdrive unlocked in expeditions. Not sure that's possible now. An update may have changed it.
it is technically after a death cause i did the iterate / repeat thing
(it was the first thing i ever did, im not stupid)
((or maybe i am idk))
and presumably you got then "iterate/repeat", "remembrance", "new beginnings", and "observing the cycle" ?
yes
living freighter?
The whale freighter you get at the end of this expedition
its a frigate i believe, not a freighter, i could be wrong
but you cannot get "Bounds Testing", is that right?
correct
sorry if you've been asked this before, do you have multiplayer enabled?
yes, i know the method, i've seen it before, it did not work
which method, sorry?
turning multiplayer off and than somethin else i forgot, it didnt work
My deaths were so dumb lol. Fall damage once, and dying to random predators while trying to correct ancestral thingies 3 times 
turning it back on didnt work either
and I assume the dialogue you see when talking to Polo has just one option, for you to leave, and the thing Polo says is something unrelated to the expedition?
just look it up in the pins, Ellie, it's right here
i talk to him, its just the leave option (even though i have 515 liquid sun and i have the liquid sun quest active), and than he says "you always are, traveler-friend" and nothing else
ok, so that's what you normally see the first time you talk to Polo in this expedition
including after a reset (death)
you're not supposed to turn anything in the first time you talk to Polo, even after a reset when you know what is going on
but you do not have the Bounds Testing milestone claimable?
and if you turn multiplayer off, save, exit game, re-enter game, go to the Anomaly, talk to Polo (and hear exactly the same thing still), no milestone then either?
yeah
AP4 is a nightmare omg
Watch out for wind. ๐ฌ
and can I ask one more thing, well two more things, what patch version are you on, and are you connected to online discovery services (discovery tab, lower left)?
latest and yes
yes it is. the only good thing about it is to leave.
The trip out rightt lol
Have to soft reset while i was falling off a mountain
Good catch I'd say
okay. at this point there's no workaround that I know of to get the milestone some other way. you could get another ship with a hyperdrive in it, but that won't I think clear the milestone and you need it in order to complete the expedition.
Sounding like we need a bug report and patience. In the meantime I'd weigh in the option of a reset. Scrap the save and go again, bound to be easier the second time through. Especially you now know there are bugs.
Sucks to read this I'm sure. โฌ๏ธ
It clears it if you build one rather than using the given one
the last time this happened, there was an issue on hg's end with their servers and a patch had recently dropped. so all I can suggest is:
report it as a bug, wait 12 hours (?), see if it's still screwed up, and if so, try starting with a reset or a new save ๐ฆ
you're getting half the right dialogue which is a bit weird, and broken
I'd certainly jump off a mtn and get back to polo before just fully scrapping though. Could just be the loop you're in atm. May reset proper upon a death? But ye sadly it seems 2 of us feel the same on the issue.
one thing I don't understand
you got the solar ray plans from Polo this time through
I mean, I guess, since you got liquid sun from someplace ๐
so if that's true... how did you not get the bounds testing milestone at the end of that dialogue?
i got the liquid sun, but he wont TAKE it
yeah, not worried about him taking it just yet, that's not part of the milestone. if you remember, the first time through, you don't have anything to give Polo and you do nonetheless get the milestone just for showing up and saying hi, essentially
i thought you got it from turning stuff in
nope
would you be willing to post a screenshot of the phase 1 screen? maybe that will help us figure out what's going on... if there's anything we can figure out, that is
Would you mind showing your expedition objectives page?
Ye I was typing it wanted to wait and see what you were gonna say. ๐
no worries ๐
Bugs are getting more and more odd between patches it seems atm.
you can say that again
Though I suspect something just isnt right with this case. Perhaps that's just my gut.
so what I would do in your report is explain that you got the solar ray blueprints talking to Polo but the milestone did not complete, describe the various things you've tried, show a screenshot of the dialogue you see now when you visit, mention that ods is working, all that
that's not much comfort but it's all I got at this point
yep but that's later
that's not this milestone
this milestone literally just wants you to show up at the Anomaly and go "hey Polo... um." like, nothing more than that
you should see three four options (which the player does not), one of which is "leave", and you should get the solar ray blueprints (which somehow the player has?!) and then the milestone should complete after you exit the dialogue
Right that's what I'm reading now. Here in this instance we're never being asked which of the 3 wed like to collect. Ok
Hmm.
Scrap the save my guy, it's not too early.
How many times must I complete expedition to get the items associated with it?
once
First what? Expedition?
Ye
oh good, my only way to save it is to restart completely
you can claim the rewards for any complete phase and for the expedition when it is done, once on any save
I say it with true pain in my heart traveler. But it seems this is the way.
Confused me with the other expedition roles. ๐
Does it save my progress? Or I have to complete all the milestones in one sitting?
It saves when you do.
you can manual save and close the game at any time
Nice..I'm excited to start this one...any advantage to co op it?
welp, time to die to start this new save off
Will it replace the one I have is my question.
you can have up to 30 frigates
if you are maxed out then you will need to dismiss one of them before claiming the new one
Okay. Then I need to dismiss one.
I guess you do ๐
are there any extreme weather planets in the anchor3 system?
need to get my hands on some storm crystals
don't do it there, I don't know of any in anchor 3
see the pins in this channel "Mini-faq" for info on an earlier one
anchor point 4 also has them but it's a horrid place
Much more calm there comparatively.
feels like im constantly getting pirated
But your statement is very true. Death lurking everywhere..
yep, it's a pretty pirate-happy route it seems
I am thankfully done with this system on to do the side missions of 4
I used my ship to track down AP4 and the grave
that's the way. in your ship lies safety
There you go, cautious and resourceful.
Now only if i can stay alive the rest, i dont have to face that nightmare again
hmm
do you need to land in a system's space station to get the teleporter registered?
or does it automatically happen
ive always assumed you need to land in it
land in the space station, otherwise you won't have it in the teleporter list
You've been assuming correct.
Oooo I gotta snag a pic still but I got a gigantic crab squid pet ๐
ive heard they usually have activated copper
Depends on you truly. I've heard many different completion times.
It should have it
Most anything that has "activated whatever" have storms, therefore storm crystals.
So yes through all the ipsofactos you'll find them there. ๐
Well im on line my 5thish death with 46hrs on the time card
๐
My time was 3deaths completion at 10.5hrs.
Nice
There are all kinds of times and deaths.
Most of my time goes into resources and organizing
ughh, the storm ended right when i was gonna grab the crystal ๐ญ
Hm
Do you truly lose everything after death? Or can you store some stuff in bases or something?
Everything is reset
See I was soo minimalist. I think I made total 2m units upon completion. Like 3k nanites. I did nothing but objectives.
another will come, I was there earlier today to grab some photos and it was nice and stormy
for me I've only had one death, and ive been playing for... a good few hours? 7ish
see the pins "persistence after death"
But it seems like with each death it gets easier
knowledge is power
forgot to say because i was distracted by pirates, but I got an Orb friend who can fly, it looks really silly when i ride him
Damn okay, it's gonna be hard
Just watch out of AP4
I'm trying to lure this jellyfish flying creature I cant wait til I do.
you learn a lot about what you should be worrying about after you die, then you can plan ahead for next time
I learned put save beacons at the downed freighter, abandoned building, storm crystal planet
you can also put bases so you can teleport to them directly
put base computers instead
ok so i did it again, bounds testing hasnt been achieved because you get the solar ray plans from observing the cycle
that way you have those points marked if there should be an accidental reset
how the hell do you get bounds testing
ah you are right about the solar ray plans, I did not remember the reward correctly
but it's still true that at bounds testing you are not supposed to have to turn in anything
just meet polo and leave
turning stuff in is later, for the "partners in time" objective, and can be done at any time
How is AP5?
I recall ap5 being pretty tame compared to 4
Thank god
let me verify that one doesn't have to turn in something, maybe I'm not remembering that right either
To me ap4 is a good example of why I don't like the way combat has been added to the game. I don't even like going to extreme sentinel planets anymore.
Yes ap5 was reminiscent of ap4. But in comparison the word calm comes to mind.
I've never been fond of extreme sentinel planets. but now there is an off switch so that's nice.
Are expeditions better to do solo or co op?
Solo as to dodge the bugs.
i like they put such a hellish planet in the expedition
imo multiplayer is buggy enough to avoid it and even just turn it off
I built my activated indium base on an extreme sentinel planet on my survival save. Has around 180k units of storage. I just ignored the sentinels and worked aorund them. Now I can't even hop in my ship to get away from them.
get yourself a sentinel boundary map and find a pillar on that world
Ah copy that..I'll def do that. It's strange, when I first started the game, I had a few freeze screens, but 55hrs in and it's been pretty solid on ps5
pillar is temporary though..
just what I started to say
yeah but hours if you don't warp around or leave the planet (system?)
i feel like they should fix that and make them actually work permanently or maybe a switch
its a lot of work to go all the way to the pilar no matter how you see it
once you have a base there it's not any work at all: just walk up and punch buttons
Or just not have the sentinel forces attack you automatically when you hop in the ship while there is a conflict level
you are
but if you are making some farm say AI or runaway mold then you cant have it next to the pilar most likely, the spot the pilar is at might just look lame also
the way i deal with extreme sentinel planets is i dont land on them...
Those hrs have been spent all over the place..including Euclid...if you were asking me
oh, no I was just, I need to do some testing to see if staying in the system but pulsing around keeps them off or not
teleporting, warping, save-reload, these will start things over and you'll have to turn them off again
I've got a few maps in my expedition saves to find the sentinel pillars. I didn't use any of them.
lot of player bases out there eh ๐
I wish the portal stayed marked, I'm looking for it in anchor 1 again and its... difficult
we have planetary coordinates if you get close
Drop a base computer close to a portal so you can go back easier. I've got a portal base in all the galaxies I've been to.
they're in the pins in fact (pin with all system names, glyphs, etc)
*planetary systems
I was talking about the game in general not expeditions
using planet coordinates for the anchor point is really helpful, the less you are running around on a planet the better
oic
Lol AP4 specifically lol
i always took time just looking for the anchor point on my ship when i didn't have coordinates
I had trouble putting a bc near any portal except for some reason ap3, ods was on the blink then I think so I got lucky
too many claimed bases
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On one of the expeditons I had other people place their base computer almost beside my base computer. Someone's base computer was clipped in the wall of my prefab. Another place I had a base on top of a flat mountain. Someone else built a base there. I had to rebuild my base because parts of their base kept me from going throuh parts of my base.
I just got the "can't build here" message, annoying. had to move on
Sometimes when I get "can't build here" message I can reload and build the base computer. Not always though.
I could probably have reported bases over and over until enough were gone that I could put a bc, but it didn't sit right with me
I have a feeling a lot of those bases are going to disappear after expeditions ends.
for sure
I had 7 saves on the last expedition. 3 so far on this one. Deciding on whether to start another expediton save or just go for a permadeath save and play it for a while.
Why not just continue on one of the saves?
hey one more question for you @granite kiln when you talked to Polo did you get the Cycle Observed, Perpetuity and Recursion milestones shortly after?
I've got too many saves already. Don't need more. I even found an S 34+9 freighter on my second save on the first battle. I'll delete it also.
7 saves on one expd! dang. one save for me for each, that's already a lot of clutter
I've got saves I keep on Xbox and Steam.
is there no way to get the exotic wingpack anymore
understandable 
those are the universal memory restoration milestones correct?
they should pop shortly after talking to Polo and leaving (not turning stuff in)
My god, Anchor point 4 is a nightmare
I need to get to my memory thing but every time i step out of my hole i get attacked
Yes indeed. Do what you gotta and get out.
dig to it ๐
than yes
I dug a hole and dropped a base computer there then built 4 walls and a roof around the grave and didn't have a problem
actually 3 walls and a door
went back in the hole and deleted the base and I was on my way
What type of map is the sentinel pillar
the type you can't buy from a cartographer
I'd describe it as a map you get from fighting sentinels that you can use to locate sentinel pillars. I got my maps shutting down sentinel pillars I found other ways.
Just dont' forget to pick up all the barrels around
I'm def digging to the grave lol
When you go back in the hole just close it behind you
I've found out the sentinels will follow you in the holes you dig.
so it does look like the first time you talk to Polo you don't get the milestone, only after you turn something in once, the second time you visit, the dialogue should say "you already know what we require I think?" (same as first time), with the choices to turn in, possibly greyed out if you don't have the item, and the next screen would say "Right on time, traveller-friend!" if you do turn something in...
I only turned in the ancesteral memories to get my milestone.
so now I want to know what the dialogue screen shows when you go visit the second time with stuff ready to turn in, @granite kiln
screenshot maybe
This was my 3rd save. I took the ancesteral memories I got and dupped a whole bunch of it and turned a bunch of them in.
that's why there's a max from any account that counts towards the dialy progress ๐
Do you know what the max is? Apparently I didn't dupe enough to reach it.
the max is 20 and it wont tell you when you reach the max
you can continue to give in but it won't count to the progress
you'll still get memory fragments
still get erbs if you turn in somnal, etc
with no limit someone would probably be able to hack the game to just sent like a million Polo submissions at once or something crazy
just anyone duping would already be a lot too
hrmmm, can you teleport to outlaw stations from the anomaly
yes
thank god
Well time to fight lol
Thanks. I didn't turn that many in.
Check out the teleporter list at the space station. I found a bunch of sentinel pillars in there.
I got the kill sentinels milestone and didn't even have to kill one going to sentinel pillars. I'd shoot the mech to get the level raised then shut them down. I'd get a few more that way.
Geology cannon is now my little friend, went through all 5 levels lol
wow, well done!
farming some ancestral memories
kinda wish i could feed this sentinel dog, hes just hangin out
cute little protogek you got there
My bad lol i used a neutron cannon, not geology
I'm not too good at dupping. I pretty much decided while I was doing it that I could probably do just as good going out and getting the memories from a group of creatures.
got some claws on it though
I did find out on one of my expediton saves that pets will protect me. I messed up and got my pet before I died the first time. When I tried to get a predator to kill me my pet come up and killed it. Then I had to jump off a mountain to finish the job.
You only need 200 ancestral memories all the time, right?
that number doesnt increase or anything?
Will i need salvage glass for anything?
meet my best friend for this expedition
their name is Bloody, but I call them Orb
Bloody is a really funny name though, considering it was generated by the game
Looks like your on an exercise ball lol
that one's my fav pet
So, once I find a derelict freighter in a system that spawns S class upgrades I know it is always the same way. The question is, would the same system spawn S class upgrades for all players?
@astral storm As far as I know it does. That's why people post locations of freighters with S class upgrades or even S class crashed ships for other players to find
I feel like the game gave me way too many emergency recievers
A full 12 of them for basically nothing
Well then get salvaged frigate farming. Just be ready for investing one receiver, and then getting like 6 receivers in return from the somnal dust
2 questions
question the first: do Sentinel Ships count for the 20 Sentinel kills?
question the second: is there smth specific I should do with the Whispering Omelettes I got, like refine them into Nanites?
AP5 here I am
I did the free one near the end and then got 12 from it ;(
I need a base with refiners for all this slime
No, they do not
edit: you can't refine omelettes - just sell them
the one thing from keeping me from beating this is that i cant find cobalt
also in any trade terminal
That is also true
huh, really? i must be blind
It's one of the guaranteed items
npcs are not trade terminals btw, some people sometimes confuse them
@dense basin tyty
the music that plays after you craft the flute....
bangin
just found these three identical guys marching in the 5th anchor station
wait so
do I get the Leviathan in the base game too?? how does that work
ahhh, I get it from the quicksilver guy
well
that was a neat expedition
t'was my first one
it was the first one i completed too
i tried the previous one but i couldent figure out what to do or how to play
Iโm finally out of permadeath whoop!!
Sus!!!???
let's see
huh
finishing this expedition took less time than i thought
5:49
with only one death (which was required and basically just me hurling myself off a cliff on purpose)
Finished with 50:19 and 5 deaths
Ggs to both of you ๐
Seems you have some roles to collect, dont forget to do that along with ensuring you've collected all rewards on your expedition pages.
These ofc can be collected on other save files at your local quicksilver hoarder.
The mini leviathan is cool
I agree, was thinking how to populate a space with a few and make it resemble a natural terrarium leviathan enclosure.
Seems I lost my self in the shuffle. Does anyone know what system koak is in? It's for the final memory location thing
2nd mission of the final iteration
All in the pins thankfully. ๐
Is it?
Oh thank goodness
I was dumb and jumped a few systems and thought I'd remember to come back it. And here I am... lmao
Anyone beaten the expedition leviathan trying to power though for the rewards and alittle lost.
Noooo traveler out traveling... dumb?! No sirry bob
But it's good you asked and now you can find the info anytime yes?
Oh for sure. I should have thought to check the pins
Now I just have my final 3 missions to complete and I'll be done with expedition
Thank youuuuu
Best of luck traveler. 
Verified you can find a multi tool with scatter blaster pre-installed in the expedition. Sentinel pillar find (Eissentam). @indigo falcon, thought you might to know. ๐
yep I expected so, thanks for doing the legwork!
So will prices chill after expedition ends and game save is survival?
I expect after the 6 weeks and saves convert, that prices will be the normal prices again
Copy
found a holy grail of sodium, not i need holy grail of oxygen ;v;
starting world? other?
starting world
I think you can craft life support gels from the get go, I mean that you already know how, so dihydrogen and carbon would get you for those
I guess you get some of those when you get to your ship anyways

Itโs called super moon btw and is on YouTube and Apple Music
I beat the expedition, thank you to everyone who built amazing bases, and thank you to everyone on this discord especially @indigo falcon for your help with my questions. Iโm not sure how to claim the roll but I beat it
check the pins, there's one on how to claim the role, congrats!!
Ayyee ggs๐
is it essential to assist polo?
You have to help them 5 times for a milestone and/or if you want to contribute to the community research.
alright thanks
you need to help them once for one milestone and 5 for the other, and if you feel the community spirit you may help them more (many people wait until they have completed the expedition for that, for .... safety reaons ๐ )
I... spawned in a freighter in an outlaw system... it was AN S CLASS... and i could not afford to get it!!!! 
๐ฆ ๐ฆ
(This happened right after exped. It was my first spawn after the exped.)
I am. The salt.
It was a pretty black with yellow accents too ๐ฉ
Time to farm up 60 mil without access to basic farming equipment ๐
awwww
lessee, in the expedition, you could... set up a trade route, or do smuggling, either of those can be pretty lucrative
I guess if you already know where a few outlaw systems are (and there are at least 3 I know about near the starter system and/or the first anchor point system), that can get you going on the smuggling
Aye I've started up a smuggling route! Though I've found a system with ancient bones and gravatino balls so that's a spicy addition to my funds when i can play again.
Black and yellow! Thatโs my jam
Shooting up the freighters & frigates in outlaw systems is a fun and free way to add to the pile of contraband you can sell as well.
I.... I always feel too bad to shoot them.
I'm a peace, love, and steal everything from the mechanical overlords kinda person
Woah that's what the ui looks like in vr?
They're pirates, too. That's why their ships are full of contraband! I don't tend to shoot up the ones in regulated space, but pirates get no mercy from me.
not sure if someone called rowdy_viper here, thanks for the location of sentinel pillars 
I'm a fairly slow player, and rough idea on how long the expedition takes? are there any tasks that are strictly timegated?
nothing is timegated
I am a very slow and cautious player. 21 hours for me, most people won't take nearly that long
6 hours is the slowest (non cheating / duping) speedrun Iโve seen. 12-14 hours at a more reasonable pace. Nothing is time locked except the expedition itself. ๐
ok, great. thank you for the info
Caveat: Depends on how many times you die! ๐
What's the minimum or types of base components you have to create on the infected world to satisfy the "The Anchor" milestone? I'm building on Alecapae Beta which seems to be infected. I've uploaded the base so it has that many parts.
15 pieces besdies the base computer
that's enough parts all right
should complete for you.
if you have the milestone pinned it shuld show you how many pieces you have left.
I slapped down a tons of 5-sodium lamps
Thought I did. Hmmm
I built a 2x1 hut lifted up on short walls to avoid terrain poking through. did that on all the anchor point worlds.
16 pieces exactly for that and it's fast and useful if I need to get back there (for example after death)
Got a 1x1 hut with a bio gen (crap) a connected teleporter and four sodiu lamps around the outside = exactly 15.
what's the log say if you pin the milestone, or what's the tip in the lower right say on your regular screen?
It said 15 I guess. Just counted the parts including the wire and it's 15.
It worked.
yay!
That's enough for a few hours.
This expedition is not going to be a half hour speed run for anyone!
no. I think the record is 53 minutes in game time (no loading screens) right now ๐
take your time, over 2 weeks left
Yeah. I've been doing them bith on the PS4 and PC, but I may not get it done on the PC this time. I had a flood and it killed my gaming PC.
can somebody give me the glyphs for anchor 3 pls?
see the pinned messages in the expedition channel, one has glyphs for all the systems
ok
oh hey, right in this channel in fact ๐ also check the other pins, lots of good info in there
You can speed run this one done in an hour really?
well a few people have, remember that's play time when you look at the save file, it's not wall clock time
but that's after many runs and with a whole strategy planned out etc
hey, claim the role for the server if you like, see the pins for how!
i told yโall i would do it ๐ <@&590975379678953522>
the sentinel pillar map will be useful for one of the iterations 
yup!
stocked up quite a lot of uranium, that gonna last me for long time
this is just the last phase, no?
yea i'm at last phase
may I make a recommendation? (which maybe you have already done but just in case)
sure
one decent cold protection and stuff to charge it; ammo for your weapon. then (besides your uranium) you should be good to go
yep
Should have posted it earlier ๐ <@&590975379678953522>
i spammed ion batteries
yea, i noticed that the last iteration system have various thermal protection
so i gonna farm a bit of nanites by discovery...
at least a B class?
@indigo falcon
B is fine, memory fragments might give a good X though
oh sitting in inventory? nice!
yea
i have no seizure so i'm alright
done with derelict
luckily its not the one with horrors
Booo
kinda spoiler ||dude i got so mad when i first did it bc the leviathan killed me and i thought i had to restart but it was part of the story||
(don't click that ECDMDragon, until you complete it)
yeah
@fringe agate
woo hoo!
W
Nice job
hope they do it then
probably when switch and mac game came out
switch is "summer 2022" but mac and ipad, dunno
i'm expecting one more expedition before the major patch
nms mobile
I dunno, this one ends in July
is there a wait gap between expeditions or do they just instantly start back up
with a different expedition
4.0 should be the next update. "should"
which means a bunch of expectations about having major new content etc
where is anchor point 4? The planet is super hostile and I'm having trouble finding it
are you somewhere near the marker?
yeah
i used portals to go to the other anchor points so i recommend going back to ap 2 or 3 and putting in portal codes threw one of them
Lat/Long: -45.66, -157.51 planetary coords (also pinned in here)
try navigating there in your ship
oh, didn't realize. thanks!
if you're already close that should be fast
but my ship didnโt show cords when going first person in a planet so
let us know when you get there!
I've fallen into some strange hole ๐
uh oh ๐
terrain manipulator ๐
finally located. thanks guys
yay!
Greetings
Whatโs goinโ on?
Dang, canโt install additional weapon types on bought ship in expedition
Because they are locked on ship weapons seller in Anomaly
Ah well, itโs not a big deal
Nah
you get what you get, or die and reroll ... and chance getting the same thing yet again ๐
Does anyone have any tips for completing the expedition faster
Go straight to the system witch it tells you to and you can do all of the objects for that loop there
Thanks
Also if you just starting die I immediately as soon as you spawn in for the fist time
You can actually learn weapon blueprints with stuff like alien monoliths on a planet. From my experience having a certain weapon installed also raises the chance that fragments drop the according upgrades
its just the same thing, even with 250 liquid sun and the liquid sun quest active, he says the exact same things
what's the dialogue show? is it um
"You already know what we need I think?" on the first screen
and the choices to deliver the various things are there but greyed out?
or something else entirely?
yes
and you have the actual items with you in your suit? in general inventory let's say?
250 liquid sun in my exosuit
general inventory?
and yes in general
How do I find a predatory creature
go to the starter world
there's a strider and one other there
All the way back!
go via a space station teleporter
Oh
note where you are now before you leave
Got it , thanks
still scratching my head, gonna ask around and see if someone else has a bright idea, since this is stil plaguing you a day later
Multiplayer on?
Yep!
Cool
the player tried turning it off, save exit game load back in ,no diference
I took the screenshot as soon as I got it finished and didnโt even notice I was pointing at it
if you gather something else, say ancestral memories, selecting that loop quest instead, what happens, same?
give me a minute to try it out and I'll update if it works
ok, here's hoping
I hope they do another rerelease of some expeditions. I missed the last 2 before this
They did for 1-4 at the end of 2021 so maybe at the end of 2022?
we'll see. there's really no way to know
so uh @granite kiln whatever happened? that was a long minute ๐
sorry i was busy, but same thing as liquid sun
polo just doesnt wanna take my stuff ๐
gah ok that sucks ๐ฆ ๐ฆ
going in to test it
worked ok for me; i had main loop progression mission selected, when i got to a stack of liquid sun notification popped up, "ready to turn in talk to polo", and talking to him went as expected, got the memory frag as reward as expected.
@granite kiln do you have any mods running?
oooooh mods, I never think to ask that
I havent played since early 2020 long before the expeditions came out.
Are these expeditions no longer playable to returning players? Do they rotate them back in to play?
I wonder if I should grind out some stuff to submit to polo
I don't really need to because I beat the expedition... but that phase 5 reward.....
the first four last year were rerun once at the end of the year. no idea whether there will be future reruns or of what.
any idea why they made expeditions and then removed them? seems likea lot of content wasted
they are timed events
like a big issue with teh game was lack of stuff to do.
the entire player community is meant to do them together
in some cases like the current expedition, thousands of players working together unlock certain steps
everyone starts in the same system, has the same goals, players build bases to help each other along
it's hard to reconfigure that sort of thing as an ongoing event
do you make new saves for these then? and the rewards are account wide or something
yes
every expedition starts with a new save in "expedition mode"
any end of phase or end of expedition rewards can be claimed once on every save
and the save converts later into a normal mode (or in the current case, survival mode) save which you can continue to play
those of us who completed it are really just along for the ride now and assisting with research
I retired the save after making a base usable enough to upload for other players and spend time helping in here, either way it helps I guess
something similar
I finished the expedition and I'm mostly playing Horizon right now, but I try to log in once a day to get a few stacks of Liquid Sun for Polo. Feels like that Phase 5 bonus goal is never going to happen <_<
it's a long way off. probably set so that it will not clear until very near the end
The rise of the living frigate
still on the route?
hmm? I already done this afternoon xD.
this is from a poster
Feed them with creature pellet. The start planet have a strider that is highly aggressive
I found one that attacked me and adopted it but it did not work
get the role! check pins for how!
Already have it, just that the content creator overtakes it
oh! I looked at the profile and didn't see it, heh
@midnight ruin 
screenshot of your companion?
I don't have it any longer, I sent it away
abandoned?
oh. hmm yea, you try adopt it again
then yeah get another one
What does it say in the analysis visor when a creature is aggressive
the description text? depends if aggressive towards you or not
Ok
I like this poster
this
2 storage mods and 2 pet mods
to be certain, i'd recreate DISABLEMODS.TXT and retry
ok
if this turns out to be the issue.... ๐ก but also ๐ฅณ because it will mean the blocker is removed~
question: when you collect 250 l sun for example, do you get the hud notification saying you can go and turn it in?
at least i got the hyperdrive now ๐
holy effing crap
I am sooo glad you were able to resolve it
thanks bk for thinking to ask the question!
im assuming for hot pursuit i need to talk to the bounty master? i have no idea
no
you need to buy contraband from the contraband agent (or gather nipnip from some player base, also works)
and sell it in a regulated system (to npc pilot works fine)
until you hit the 500k mark
ohh ok
you can accept a mission to smuggle stuff, also fine
and then don't deliver it, just sell it yourself ๐
that was surprisingly easy, i just bought 500k worth of contraband since i already did the 1mil credit thing and sold it cause smuggled crap is worth twice than what you bought it for??
also cause there was no chance for cargo probing
there you go
plus now check the rewards, you're not going to hurt for units during the expedition
I'm doing the expedition and was wondering: how do I identify an 'infested' world from the Galaxy Map?
no need
all the anchor point worlds are infested
just follow the expedition route on the galaxy map to get to them
so if I reach Anchor 2 I can just put a base there?
if you reach Anchor 1 you can put a base there
actually while we're at it: read the pins and in particular "persistence after death"
might change how you think about placing bases on the route.
I left the Anchor 1 planet already, I'm in the Anchor 2 planet, I just put down a base but the expedition milestone didn't complete so I don't think it counts as an infested world
it does
you need 15 pieces besides the base computer
pin the milestone and it will tell you how many more pieces you have left
oh yeah, my bad, I just checked the Log and it updated, my bad man thx for the help ๐
sure thing!
can I have more than one leviathan on my fleet if I finish the expedition twice ?
no
๐ฆ I'm sad. I whish my Levi could have a company, you know ?
only one S frigate free (unless you also got the Normandy, then 2 ...)
Yeah, I got the Normandy. Speaking of which, when I send the leviathan on an expedition, the hologram in the command station is that of the Normandy. I hope Hello fixes this.
yeah I'm pretty sure they know, everyone has noticed and commented on it ๐
And indeed, thanks to the frequent freighter battle spawns of the expedition mode, that's one small class freighter with completely maxed out slots. I guess any surplus bulkheads I find I'll donate to whoever.
Does anyone in here who completed expedition 4 have any sandworm eggs they could trade me?
this is the wrong place to ask, this is expedition 7 stuff. um you might check in #nms-lfg-or-trades though
Got home from work short while ago. Been thinking about building this indium farm all day.
Well, I've got a pretty sizable one and it's not just close to the first system of the expedition, it also has S class derelict freighters
The system is Hezhni-Oarm II, a mere 211 ly away from Chistor Olev XIII
And here's the portal coordinates for anyone that might care:

The planet which someone else named Phendrana also features 2 sentinel pillars. Not sure how common that is
can the Biological Horrors (the ones that spawn when you pick a Larval Core) harm you inside your starship?
will the swarm go away tho?
Eventually yes, Larval Cores despawn long before that though, if your thinking you can just crack open a whispering egg and hop in your ship to wait out the swarm.
yeah I'm doing that, I got 3 so far but the first two I had to run away, I'm on my 3rd larval core and got into the starship, the creatures are attacking the ship (but not damaging it or hurting me) but the 'Swarm Subsiding' isn't poping up, I think they won't go away
it's been like 2 min already so I doubt they'll go away
Holy mother of glitches. What in the heck? I think I just glitched the game out to an ridiculous degree... I had no idea this was possible.
Decent ship... except that ain't mine. It's a ship I bought to scrap and upgrade my original expedition ship.
I believe you scrapped 2 ships in a row too quickly. After scrapping the 1st, you didnt wait for the scrap interface to update showing your active ship, and inadvertently scrapped your solar. Doing this glitches the internals onto the next ship in line, that explorer.
No. Both ships are still standing in the hangar. I overwrote the internals of the explorer, but the solar still exists.
Also since I always have to go and switch to the next ship manually it's not like I even can scrap more than a ship in say a minute.
I just died after reaching the final rendezvous. Is there any way to recover or do I have to do the whole expedition again?
@wary pasture I take that as a I have to do it all again?
Sadly I am not experienced in save duping or editing in any way, I'd guess in one of those ways it would be possible but again, I just dont know.
I didn't know if the devs had added a way for players later on to recover progress
So yes. I am terribly sad to say I think you gotta run it back.
You do, but it doesn't take all that long. What you should focus on is to finish phase 1, then do the graves of phases 2-4, and finish phase 5. That will ||Break the permadeath loop and convert your save into a survival one||
You can do the middle stages again after you're done with phase 5 and get all the rewards.
@astral storm Sorry, didnt see your reply til now. The same thing happens when you scrap a ship and then hop into another before your default one spawns in.
I've investigated the issue in a little more depth myself in the meantime. It isn't quite a ship duplication, it's... weirder than that. The ship actually has no functioning own internals anymore and instead will point towards the internals of another ship. I've used manual and auto save respectively and figured out that the ship can either harmlessly disappear, or actually take over the other ship completely. That means it's possible to transfer ship internals this way... Does anyone know the exact process though? Because as much as my starter expedition ship isn't ugly, being able to splice it's guts into a different ship is... tempting.
@astral storm There is no way to retain both ships
Yeah, I figured as much. That's fine, I have no need or interest in duplication anyway.
And actually my starter ship did end up permanently changed it seems... the vesper sail is a deep green now instead of it's previous cyan.
That is a different matter - for some reason the Expedition starter is flagged to have legacy colours enabled, which results in pure white sails. When you switched the Explorer to that 1st ship slot, the legacy flag was dropped, and it didnt get replaced when you switched back to the Solar, so after you reloaded the game, the Solar showed in its proper modern colours.
Hm. I see. Not that I mind. Is there a guide to properly switching internals to a ship of my choice though anywhere, if you happen to know?
Not to my knowledge, sorry.
Alright. Still, thanks for sharing what you did know
abouth the freighter during the expedition, for those of us who already finished it and want to keep playing this save, how do we put a hyperdrive on the thing ?
it already has a hyper drive installed doesnโt it
mine doesn't
The answer here is that the start freighter doesn't have a hyperdrive and I'm actually not even sure you can ever install one.
However any subsequent freighter you acquire will have one as normal. Also the start freighter is C class so ideally you should get yourself an S class freighter.
Capital or not doesn't necessarily matter. While a capital freighter is quicker to get to peak slots, because currently expedition saves consistently give you freighter battles after a number of jumps you can even upgrade a smaller S class freighter fairly quickly to full capacity.
Do that. My personal recommendation would be to take any S class you can find, so likely try to go into it with enough cash to make the purchase, something like 170m
Naturally a small S class will come significantly cheaper at like... 10m or so I think
<@&590975379678953522> alright I completed it finally woo
ennect is the planet name if i remember right
search for it in discoveries tab. or search for player bases in teleport menu
<@&590975379678953522>
the milestone that asks you to 'Shut down a planet's Sentinel forces', do I have to kill sentinels until it is completed or do I have to find one of those Sentinel Pillars to disable them peacefully?
@wraith junco yes to which one?
@swift swan you can do either.
both work ๐
I see, thank you both
if you kill 20 sentinels at once, you're gonna get both milestones
I've killed 20 sentinels already but only one of the milestones was completed
because you probably killed the 20 in different occasions.
if you keep killing them until they shutdown, you get the 20 kills for one milestone and the shutdown for the other
no they were all together, that milestone was 0/20 when I decided to start killing
anyway, if you got the milestone for 20 kills, one of the rewards is a map for the location of a sentinel pilar. go there, deactivate them and get the other
ah good point, I did get a few charts but didn't check where they lead they are just sitting there in my inventory, thx for the tip
Pins might have a pillar location. I have a pic but can't remember which system
yeah no problem, @vague lark 's info was accurate, lead me straight to a nearby Sentinel Pillar, I don't know why killing the 20 sentinels before didn't complete both milestones but who knows... the chart worked tho, thx guys
One of those milestones is to shutdown sentinel iirc which is done at pillar. You'd have to go there anyway I think.
guys, how to complete loop 5's optional mission?
oh nice
so The Leviathan, can it be redeemed (as in: added to fleet) in my main save instead of the expedition save?
Any save
yeah what I mean is, the final reward asks me if I want to add it to my fleet but how do I claim it in my main save? or do I get it in the Nexus merchant as a claimable or something?
sorry, any idea what is wrong with my "Another Chance"? It's saying the loop refuses to yield. "A dreadful wailing" required to breach memories
I don't see "A dreadful wailing" in the tasks to do
<@&590975379678953522> Leviathan complete 
Nevermind. I just had to accept my reward for visiting anchor point 5 ๐
So i just popped back on tonight to work on it again. And I accepted the 3 loops that completed. But my ship won't upgrade past B. I should be able to upgrade it to S now. And it tells me it's out of range on the station. Are they separate bugs?
any tips for finding aggresive creatures? I'm landing on random planets and have not seen one yet for some reason
Go back to spawn world for the aggressive creatures.
Think anchor1 had a few actually.
As far as finding, just freely scan and investigate, they'll likely find you first.
And best way for a crashed freighter is still maps? I'm up to 15 maps used so far. I had better luck with whispering eggs and storm crystals. And I hate the eggs lol.
I might just cheese it soon and use the anomaly teleporter to check for freighter bases.
A signal scanner fellow traveler.
They can be obtained by taking polo goods. Or Artemis gives out one weekly. Iirc..
Ah ok
Wait those are in space though. Different milestone.
Unless i'm missreading it. And searching for one like a crashed starship is the wrong type.
Lol no worries. It's the distressed signal map type on a crashed planet.
I just put the expediton marker on my quest log
Oo I hope that works.
My rng is just super crappy with maps
Reading up though, these signal scanners work kinda the same as a exocraft scan. How it can show towers and such
Ah. I'll google them
Must be a newish update.
Sadly I couldnt say I'm a newish player. Bout a month traveling the systems so far.
Anything else though just ask I'll help if I can right
Ah. I've played a few years now. Lol but I sort of checked out with the sentinals update. Combat got too difficult for me.
Been working on this expediton in small batches of time because real life is crazy
Ooo okok I cant help but be half envious of the older players. To see and play through the legacy that is nms and its growth, that's really cool.
I get to read up and take my history lessons I suppose. ๐ค
And I dont blame you friend, everything in it's own time. I just did and hour or two between work and migraines. It's not horrible.
I missed the first expediton but I bought the game before expeditons existed.
I think by 7 i'm getting burnt out
That's too cool. Like I said half envious. Lol
Well I got the game like last week of exp6, and so i just was a scaredy cat. This was my first.
Lol i'm still pretty much a rookie compared to most of the players on this discord.
Ah yea.
I missed the sentinal expedition sadly.
And i missed outlaws.
Well the community, they help each other. Such an accessible database has such immense worth.
I've been stuck on a storm crystal planet for 40 minutes lmao. Clearing inventory a bit through the refinery before I use another map
Was using maps as I warp toward the 3rd point
Hmm if you wanna wait ik of a guaranteed crashed freighter on anchor5
I have like another 10 minutes of refining slime into mould lol
Its one I used. It has a base setup
Good to know
Ok spoiler coming. Ima mark it up to you to read.
I tend to do these out of order. Like i scroll ahead and check. I did the whispering eggs before I finished phase 1
||if you just go through all anchors and do the find anchor, and memory loop, up to the 5th iteration. Then complete the 5th fully, it takes away perma.||
Up to you.
But ye I did things a bit out of order as well.
Ah good to know. I'm not a fan of it. This is my first experience.
No doubt I died several times it was a bit brutal after I think 90hrs on a normal save.
Just they do not show you hazards on normal the same way. ๐
Likely call it my main save though. I think this exp has converted me.
Yea. Thank goodness this tool doesn't hace a plasma launcher. My first few days using it, I blew myself up a lot in combat with sentinals.
I got a main save already I keep going back to.
Few hundred hours on it minimum
I still have the normal save, but idk. I enjoy the survival now.
Looking into building farms next few days
After an expedition ends it's converted over to a normal save I believe. Not sure if the permadeath will stick on this one.
Yeah someone told me a geology cannon was used as "rapid self-murderer" ๐
Yep that would do it also.
I did end up killing myself too with those launchers a while ago and I even had upgraded shields before they got nerfed. I couldn't believe it ๐
The pirates just feel excessive. Maybe it's a permadeath thing
Yes it's frequent in permadeath/survival even if the system conflict is low.
Ok
I'm so slow at expeditions
Just to clarify about the S gear: anyone who starts a new save or suffers a reset (death) in the expedition now gets an S class ship and multitool. Since you likely want to get through the rest of the expedition with no more deaths, you'll have to make do with that B. Wear it like a badge of honour ๐
Ah didn't know that.
now all memory fragments you get should be X class so you do benefit from the tier completions
And yea i was planning on no more deaths cuz of how far I've gotten since the last one lol.
(X weighted towards the better end of things, from what I hear)
if there's ones you don't need, sell them off for the nanites
you've got that milestone anyways and maybe you can buy yourself something nice after a while
Once installed you can only discard I believe. But I should check for upgrading the tiers with the unlocks.
yes, before you install but after you see what they are
Yea. I was installing them as I got them and I got oike 7 or 8 for jetpacks now for example lol
yep, lotta dup fragments in this game.
so how far along are you in the milestones now?
Well working towards fhe 3rd arc. But ptherwise been partially completing chapter 3 & 4 as I come to them.
Err 3rd anchor point.
Like I did the storm crystals and hot pursuit tonight.
Nope lol. I'm pretty lazy on bases.
Haven't bothered past the 1st one for the expedition
well it's a good insurance policy in case something goes awry and you get reset
just a bare base computer even
have a look at "persistence after death" pin in here
I can pretty much just bum rush anchor points 3 4 and 5 at this point. I mean stopping for the memory install
this isn't true permadeath and it's not quite survival either, it's a weird mix of the two especially for the expedition
oh that sounds good, yeah do that base computer at each planet)
You can store on your freighter too
yep the freighter free storage is very handy, although the inventory doesn't persist across resets, though the base parts on your freighter do
Greetings
hello hello
Ah you put work into the faqs. Appreciated.
well if it hadn't been me, others would have done it. maybe it will be you next time ๐
community effort to help each other!
Lol i still consider myself some what of a rookie. I'm best off right now with guidance for the artemis path and some other stuff.
that works too!
hmm maybe I'll edit that one pin to make it super clear that no inventory persists
Interesting. So I just dm screenshot of completed expedition?
Like someone helped me learn to futz around with cooking. But told me to experiment with recipes lol. And I have yet to discover cake or donuts. But I found the stew on my own.
Yep. Pretty much every expedition
ok
But they roll it out eventually after it ends. So the DM is just early access.
you want the role now? do the dm. (Lots of us have.)
you're a lazy sod? wait for self access ๐
Debating if I want to put a base down at the next warp. Or wait until the anchor point. Which I believe is only two warps away. And I'm skipping to it anyways. So i guess i answered my question
wow that's nice! I admit I relied on the wiki for recipes. But I did power through all that didn't require killing creatures. It's a lot!
I wouldn't put bases on in between systems unless there's something interesting there (you found a crashed freighter, you located a sentinel pillar, there's a great mt in the station....)
What I like about expeditions is they kinda force you to try out and learn new aspects of the game you haven't touched yet. Like one kinda introduced me to basics of extractors.
I think that was the worm pet one?
Ye, I'm with Apergos. I was the potato dropping a base computer at every anchor. Minimal but wouldve saved alot.
I shoulda
I didn't use extractors on any expedition, so hrm. Maybe you incorporated that on your own ๐
I'll be risking death when I wanna do the defeat 20 sentinals. But otherwise I only have died twice so far.
Oh mining or whatever.
Unless you used the base of others instead?
There we go!
I specifically remember putting them down on a desert planet for specific minerals or gas or whatever was needed to harvest a certain amount for the expedition
Role obtained ๐
Gz
Ayyyeee ๐
no, I didn't need extractors for anything. not for emergence or any other.
hmm this one you can take some precautions. be by a building (or build yourself a small shack base), pick a fight with a drone, leave the summoners that show up alone, whack repair drones and the regular drones as they come in, keep the wave at 1-2 stars only, duck in the building if it gets too heated...
and pick up the green barrels only when shields have taken damage
you can get through it that way
(assuming you're not someone who takes on 5 waves of them easily)
Expedition 3. It was. Extract 1000 minerals.
I found the sentinals in space ok on the last frieghter battle. I hopped back into the space atation.
I almost forgot the extract was for pioneer.
yeah the sentinels in space don't count to the milestone here
Oh bummer. Guess I misread it than
They are often enough by an abandoned building honestly. I half expected them to patch hiding in a building when they reworked sentinals
it isn't clear tbh, but yeah it's gotta be the planetside ones
4 stack mag gens, glitched in?
huh I am looking at that expedition 3 milestone and wondering if I did have to put an extractor for that, maybe I did, they gave us the blueprints earlier. oh, memory like a rusty steel sieve...
what's the thing being tested here?
Lol
Why would they be glitched in?
Was just curios if i can already upload pictures
beside in #nms-photomode-gallery
ah! you have the familiar role now, so yes
Yea, this was conformation
Well I made it to the 3rd anchor.
Well plop a base computer next. Once I find a spot not taken lol
oh yeah. sooo many bases by the portal
I guess you could cheese it by reporting bases one at a time until it thinks they are all gone in your area
Usually go for some undiscovered building and build a base near it
it can be handy to have a base by one portal someplace, though it's not required
I had to fly about 30 seconds out for a spot
only 30 seconds? ha! you were lucky ๐
Well also was difficult to land on such uneven terrain. Might of made everyone struggle.
wait until the 4th one, speaking of uneven terrain ๐
Uh yea, those chasms \ valleys are annoying
I banged out self improvement at well.
oh great
that's a handy one, being able to make memory fragments on demand
there's a station selling pugneum and another with silver so if you are ok for units, you can just crank those out
I'm gonna finish chapter 4 probably also before I find the crashed freighter for chapter 2 lol.
there should be a bunch of player bases at crashed freighters anyways
and you don't have to bother with the cargo pods, just walk up to the distress beacon and check it
I try not to cheese stuff with the anomaly teleporter. But I might this time. I heard about a freighter around ||anchor 5|| also
there are crashed freighters all over the place
in any space station of these anchor systems, just check the teleporter
I've been trying to avoid that as it felt like cheating
definitely up to you, everyone has different constraints
the easy way then for you is to grab nav data from the yellow/blue cubes on all the space stations (found on desks and tables and vendor desks and the back room) and buy the 6 distress signal charts and don't visit the "wrong" sites when a map shows them
you'll find one in no time
I almost died saving a freighter. That one had a lot more pirates than normal
ouch! glad you squeaked through
I've used 18 distress signal maps. And no freighter yet.
then let's revisit how you're using those maps
I had a shield battery to recharge my ship
buy 6
go to a nice planet
pop one. wrong site? don't go there
pop the next. wrong site? don't go there.
repeat until you get the "right" site, there are only 6 types
if a map refuses to give anything, wait a little and then spam it again
that's it.
Thought you always had to clear it first or they can be wasted giving you nothing?
no no do not clear it
maps no longer disappear when they give you nothing
so this is the huge change
All the old advice I remember from 2 years ago is to clear it.
When did that change?
a while back
I'm probably not current on a varienty of info than
Eww aggressive sentinal planet.
ah are you on anchor 4?
Yea
I will try that map trick though maybe tomorrow
Cuz it's almost 2am for me lol
What has distress signal maps got to do with freighter?
crashed freighters.
Ohhh ๐คฆ
they are one of the distress signal types
I always think the capital ships for some reason
heh if only. "map to S capital please"
Is every crashed freighter guaranteed a salvage module or is it rng?
Yea
I did that save reaload trick for an S freighter 4 times on xbox. It was super bugged on console for me. I lost 12 hours on it
pure rng
Pffttt, I haven't gotten any from frigates since installing the matter beam
By the time an S popped on me, the captain no longer offered it free. Somehow the game recognizes a load after a save on xbox. So you can't grind for an S. Took me 12 hours and 4 S tier to learn that.
I run a derelict that has easy hostiles and many many loot crates (or I did, I've maxed out since)
the first freighter should always be free until you accept one, regardless of platform. messed up...
Yea but reloading the save fudges it up and he doesn't offer it free anymore. At least on xbox.
To before the battle.
What does this means? I don't understand what to do after opening the menu. the only 'Iterate' word that i found is the Expedition Phase.
EDIT: FOUND IT. damn im stupid lol
Before the battle?
There is a guide online somewhere and on youtube. But basically you warp in, see a freighter battle with the ship you want, run to the space station to save. Commence the battle enter it and use your scanner. If it's not an S, reload from the space station. Fly out and do the battle over.
Rinse and repeat until it's an S.
The grind didn't work properly on Xbox for me. As every reload save the captain acted like I declined his freighter already.
So it might be a PC only thing idk
Did you fight each battle before scanning and talking to the captain?
Yea you have to rescue him every reload
Not me. He offered to let me buy it on any reload. I was stuck until i did the 5 warp wait 3 hours thing
I lost 4 S tiers before I got frustrated enough to give up
After that you did the hour/warp thing and you were able to claim for free?



