nms-expedition

[dense basin]

Well, I always plan to

I need my brother to help me transfer the void egg from my exp 6 save, and then I'll delete that.

[barren creek]

Hokay... Time to jump in, I think.

[indigo falcon]

no living ship on any save yet? (sure you want it?)

[static willow]

Anyone know the exact scoop on everything that is obtainable from memory fragments?

is it literally every piece of tech?

[dense basin]

Nope, I don't want it, but my spouse wants me to have it. So.

[static willow]

I still don’t have a living ship on any save

[dense basin]

Good luck!

[static willow]

rather have a maxed nice ball hauler

[dense basin]

I need to get a better hauler for my survival save

Well, it's big. But it's ugly.

[static willow]

Super helpful information in the pins in this channel, look them over before you begin to prevent inevitable frustration

[pure elm]

Okay so I got a question. For items that can be unlocked via salvage data, are they obtainable through milestones/fragments or do I specifically need to hunt for salvage data?

[static willow]

There are various paths to many of the blueprints, depends on what you’re specifically looking for

[pure elm]

I guess what I want is the electric generator, medium refiner, and standing planter

There's probably more I'm not thinking of but mainly those three

Probably the supply depot and mineral miners etc

[indigo falcon]

salv data and all at 10x the rgular cost...

[pure elm]

Also it seems that the emeril reward and chromatic metal I put into the med refiner to refine have disappeared for some reason

[static willow]

Those all need to be purchased

[indigo falcon]

youll be grinding forever, not worth it

[pure elm]

Damn

I was so hoping there was another way but now I'm even more sad about that death I had

I worked really hard just to get the refiner blueprint

[static willow]

Some of the blueprints can be had through missions / rescues (distress call) and buildings.

[indigo falcon]

there are no base blueprints you get from memory fragments, we get given some exocraft from milsestones, bc from milestone, some components (quantum computer etc) blueprints from a milestone

[static willow]

But most of the technology ones need to be purchased with data

[dense basin]

The refiner bug is still a thing, alas.

[pure elm]

Still a thing? Since when?

[dense basin]

Since ever

[indigo falcon]

if you try the manufacturing facility route, you need 10 overrides to get one blueprint

they got that covered too

[static willow]

[indigo falcon]

ayup

[dense basin]

woof

[barren creek]

Once I'm at my ship, should I purge ship audio or trace anomalies?

[indigo falcon]

choose one

[pure elm]

Doesn't matter

[barren creek]

hokay

[static willow]

Did you see the salvage frigate module costs for freighter upgrades?

[dense basin]

By bug, I mean the one where if you go too far away from it, stuff has a high chance to just disappear.

[static willow]

I know it’s all x10 but it’s still shocking to look at

Remember being able to refine unlimited chromatic metal?

[indigo falcon]

freighter upgrade with no hyperdrive? I mean...

[pure elm]

I don't remember ever having something like that, though tbf I haven't really left stuff in refiners afaik

Or at least it didn't disappear on freighters

[dense basin]

That's been around forever, afaik

It happens on freighters too

Lost nanites that way :/

[barren creek]

Does everyone start with the same ship?

[static willow]

have all of the unlimited refiner loops been nerfed?

[pure elm]

I did have a problem tho where for instance I opened someone's refiner and went to pick up the nanites, which suddenly disappeared before I could select them

[static willow]

Sounds like an MP issue

[pure elm]

Probably is

[barren creek]

Seems like I may have gotten a pretty decent one, then...

[static willow]

never do serious refining on multiplayer

[dense basin]

All ships are A class right now

[barren creek]

ah

[indigo falcon]

all A class now, soon S though

[dense basin]

They'll start as S class soon

[static willow]

Yeah you did, nice ship

[dense basin]

They look different but stats are the same for everyone

[barren creek]

terrible hyperdrive range omegalul
I'm guessing that's normal?

[dense basin]

Yep, alas

[static willow]

Correct

Co-wrecked

[dense basin]

It's because you have no hyperdrive

[indigo falcon]

tier is at 88%

might roll over in the next 24-30 hours?

[dense basin]

I should go contribute for today

[barren creek]

seriously?

man

[indigo falcon]

I contributed right here in this channel 😛

[barren creek]

Welp, time to find the highest cliff in the area.

[umbral forum]

You can also just fly upwards.

[indigo falcon]

or find a predator and get bit

I failed to suicide by jetpack. too hard

not enough jetpack 😄

[dense basin]

It actually takes a surprisingly long time to die from exhaustion

[umbral forum]

I wonder if I should submit my contributions now.

Pretty sure it hasn't been 24h since the last batch.

[dense basin]

Predator is fastest

[dense basin]

I think it's when the NMS real time day rolls over, not 24 hours.

[umbral forum]

I have no idea when that is, really.

[static willow]

Just sent mine to discovery, 354 nanites, lol

[dense basin]

For greater clarity, I mean when freighter missions reset

[static willow]

What happens to currently ongoing frigate expeditions when you travel to the core?

[dense basin]

They move to the new galaxy with you

don't ask how

[static willow]

I just mean the active expedition

[umbral forum]

I like how we can still summon the freighter from the other side of the galaxy even without a hyperdrive.

[dense basin]

so do I

[static willow]

🪄

[obtuse mirage]

No they need one to be summoned

But only enough fuel for 1 jump

[dense basin]

In the expedition, they don't need one. The one we start with does not have one and you can summon it.

[obtuse mirage]

Yea I don’t know by that is but in a normal game it does

[dense basin]

Indeed, but this is the expedition channel

[static willow]

You can’t summon it if you go to a different class system though

[obtuse mirage]

True but It’s maybe because we didn’t buy it

[solid peak]

just finished the expedition 😎 can i get the role?

[obtuse mirage]

@ a mod

[solid peak]

Alright

[solid peak]

@fringe agate

[umbral forum]

I'll just wait for the event to end and assign it myself.

[obtuse mirage]

Yea but then you can’t flex

[dense basin]

You're that opposed to DMs?

[slow sandal]

This expedition sucks

[solid peak]

Oh ok

[slow sandal]

all im tryna do is get the cape and then I die to something retarded lmao

[obtuse mirage]

Don’t die then

[stoic bluff]

Please don't use the R word here. Thank you.

[solid peak]

Thanks gleam!!

[warm junco]

You just gotta be extra careful, but I'm sure you know that by now

[obtuse mirage]

As soon you get off the first planet it gets a lot easier

[warm junco]

Are we able to have more than one expedition role?

Neat

[dense basin]

You can assign previous expedition roles to yourself in #roles

[warm junco]

Oh OK

[indigo falcon]

only one shows but collect all the ones you did anyhow

[dense basin]

Glad to see they display in order of recency now 😄

[pure elm]

Think I'm done for today. I went ahead and did the rest of iteration 1, and now I just need bedtime

[static willow]

just reached the center in the expedition save, for additional science

[tacit silo]

reaaaalllly don't want to jinx it but I'm at the last anchor planet and whatever else I have to do.... that's it

[warm sigil]

Where is Ennect?

[ashen shore]

Anchor Point 2.

[static willow]

You’ve got this!

[warm sigil]

Is there a way to set a waypoint in a specific system?

[obtuse mirage]

Avoid cliffs

[warm sigil]

What happens to the bases of players who die?

[dense basin]

Save beacon?

[static willow]

Crap, settlement mission popped upon entry to Hilbert

[static willow]

They remain. See the pins for what persists and what doesn’t

[reef tendon]

In Expedition 7: how do I get the Pulse Spitter ? It's locked at the Anomaly NPC, and none of the memories have given it.

[dense basin]

You can only get it as a memory

Or by buying a multi-tool with it pre-installed

I bought a MT with a pre-installed scatter blaster 😄

[warm sigil]

What is a loop collapse event?

[dense basin]

They occur at the end of an iteration. Different things happen each time

[warm sigil]

Biological horrors came out of the ground, and I ran to my ship and got the heck out.

[reef tendon]

Bummer then. I already completed almost all milestones.

[dense basin]

That was the worst one for me. The second one was also a bit sketch, but that's it.

[reef tendon]

Ah, that's a good idea. I'll have to station hop a bit to find one.

[wet lotus]

wait is there a discord role for completing the expedition?

[wraith venture]

!LeviathanRole

[unkempt kraken]

Leviathan role is manually assigned, when you DM or ping <@&590975379678953522> with proof of completion: screenshot of the Expedition tab: Final Phase: 5/5 completed. See example »

If you don't have proof, the role will be self-assignable in #roles at a later date.

[wraith venture]

for past expos, you can grab them in #roles

[wet lotus]

ight thanks

[abstract bloom]

I am at 89% of level 3 in the loop. I keep doing the research quests and recently handed in 6 quest items one of each and a the rest the one for liquid sun. None of that progressed the loop more than 89%. Am I missing something right now?

[dusty pecan]

It's community based

[abstract bloom]

oh wow all this time I never realized that lol okay

[livid marsh]

holy cow! just got my first s class freighter on a warp. no resets, in the expedition. now i cant get rid of this save

[woeful ore]

Potentially stupid question - do freighters get reset on death? Ie can I use them to store and "protect" materials etc

[dense basin]

The freighter base stays, but no inventory

[cerulean olive]

Gotta admit, this expedition turned out a lot easier than I had in mind. The Permadeath thing worried me, even with some failsaves available. In the end, I didn't need to use any of them and completed the expedition a few hours ago, without dying twice, in about 12 hours total.

[woeful ore]

That explains why my freighter is empty 😩

Also - the mods I made to it have vanished. Is that because I purchased a new freighter?

[dense basin]

If you mean mods installed before you died - those are part of the ship, not the base

[woeful ore]

Sorry when I say mods, just the base stuff I built

Like a storage room and a command room etc

[dense basin]

Your freighter command room disappeared after you died?

[woeful ore]

Yes, but pre-death I had exchanged for a new freighter and I think post death it recalled the original freighter because I got a message saying something like "the captain is more relaxed after the sale"

Bug maybe?

[dense basin]

It would definitely recall the original freighter - might be because you upgraded. I'm not sure, to be honest. I was not the human who did the testing on bases sticking. I will do that today

[woeful ore]

... So maybe, just maybe the new freighter is still waiting to me in the system I died in full of my whispering eggs? 🙏😂

[dense basin]

Alas, definitely not that

[woeful ore]

I know I'm clutching at straws here, but 20 hours of farming and I got twatted by 5 hyper aggressive sentinel ships and I'm still not completely sure why. So yeah I'm a little bit gutted about everything I lost 😂

[dense basin]

oof

[woeful ore]

I'm thinking next run after I finish sulking will just be trying to get through as quickly as possible

[dense basin]

Worth doing for a first run through, just to get the rewards. I'm on my 4th just for funsies and testing

[woeful ore]

Believe it or not, every time I start that's the intention, but then I get really side tracked: "if I can just get x more, then I can y". I'm terrible for that 😳

[dense basin]

I actually totally understand that

None of my playthroughs are less than 12 hours

I finish with ~20k nanites and ~100 million units, which is completely unnecessary

[woeful ore]

On one save I had collected 180 buried tech before I accidentally hit a creature with a mining laser and it wrecked me 😂

[dense basin]

oof

[woeful ore]

Really need to focus and just get through the iterations

Maybe with a cool ship though. Maybe I could just spend a little time farming that

[dense basin]

Heh

I admit I did that

They keep giving me the square sail solar starting ship, and I hate it

[woeful ore]

Nanites i found hard to come by. Did you get that many from whispering eggs I guess?

[dense basin]

No, I spent a lot of time in pirate systems

But also, I sold off a ton of memories

[woeful ore]

Yeah that's what I've been getting around 75% of the time

I like how the memory drops seem to be related. Like I got three jetpack drops together

[dense basin]

I've noticed that if you apply them as you go, they'll switch themes

[woeful ore]

Interesting. Thanks for that

[dense basin]

But a lot of the time they give me upgrades I am just never going to use. You can take that plasma cannon and shove it, kids.

[woeful ore]

On my second to previous playthrough, I got the auto fuelling launcher and the inventory refiner in my memories. That was a great run. Until i died.

[dense basin]

personal refiner is the best

I spend nanites to get it if I don't get it in a reasonable amount of time

[woeful ore]

Yeah it makes such a difference

[dense basin]

The one advantage to solars is that they come with a built-in trickle charger. I still dislike their cockpits for combat.

[woeful ore]

Maybe I'll farm that before I get going

[woeful ore]

When you say trickle charger do you mean for the pulse engine or the launchers?

... And are some people getting ships other than solars to start with? All I've been getting is one of two types of solar ship

[dense basin]

The vesper sail is also a trickle charger

for launchers

[woeful ore]

👍

Every day's a school day

[dense basin]

TIL 😉

Everyone gets one of two solars

At least, I think it's only 2.

[woeful ore]

Thank you Brendel. You've taken a bit of the sting out of my latest s.show

[dense basin]

I've had round sails or rectangle sails

[woeful ore]

Sorry one more dumb question

I get that you lose freighter inventory but would you also lose things in the storage rooms usually?

[dense basin]

Yes

[woeful ore]

Trying to strategize for my next run

Okay that's useful info

[dense basin]

All inventory everywhere

[woeful ore]

Evil

[dense basin]

We can't protect anything

[woeful ore]

😂

[dense basin]

Isn't it?

I'm trying to decide where to put them on the alignment chart for this

[woeful ore]

Chaotic something that's for sure

[dense basin]

definitely

I feel like it can't be chaotic evil because they do want us to succeed... But they make it hard on purpose.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[woeful ore]

You want cool stuff? Fine. Just start out at the top of this really tall cliff and race to the bottom of it without sustaining fall damage and then collect ten whispering eggs and kill a bunch of sentinels. Without dying.

[dense basin]

The whispering eggs isn't bad if you use one of the box builds

and sentinels you can game with their terrible case of building stupids

(they forget how to sentinel inside buildings)

[static willow]

Wrecked-Angle solar here

I made a base and uploaded it called “EV‘s easy eggs” one of my friends already used it. There are like a dozen egg bases now

also, I teleported to one that said “minotaur, resources, carbon”, was nothing but a base computer on the steep angle of a treacherous hill. Pure

[dense basin]

I do wish people wouldn't upload bases unless they're actually useful. I don't need to see someone's milestone base that's just 15 flags and a computer.

[static willow]

Or 60

I swear there’s over 100 bases in the first anchor system now

[crisp bramble]

havent played the expedition yet but why would someone upload that

[static willow]

Literally dozens of people have uploaded shiddy bases

It’s kind of sad

[woeful ore]

I'll probably end up doing that, but it makes me feel a bit dirty using glitches and exploits to get through. Takes the shine off the achievement maybe. Or maybe I'm overthinking it

[frank galleon]

for some reason they think they have to upload the base for the milestone

even though you could literally delete the base after placing the parts needed

[static willow]

I deleted mine

[dense basin]

I don't really think of that one as an exploit. That's just using knowledge of where they spawn to your advantage. It's not really that different from jumping onto the roof - you know they won't go up there just like you know they won't go in/out of the box

[static willow]

Useless base

[dense basin]

Yeah, I go back exactly 0 times

If there were teleporters it'd be different

[woeful ore]

Ha I did try the roof jumping with my first attempt at the eggs. Couldn't get up there and started panicking so I just legged it.

[dense basin]

It's the accepted way to farm those outside the expedition. I mean, ymmv, but I see it as less of an exploit even than glitch building, which is at the bottom of the exploit scale in this game.

[somber raptor]

Finally finished the Expedition...thanks to whoever built the nipnip farm in the starter system and the larval core maze 👍

[barren creek]

How does ones manifest loop memory? It keeps saying local loop strength too low.

Do I need to do it on the anchor planet?

[dense basin]

Or in its atmosphere

But yes

[warm sigil]

Is one of the anchors a derelict freighter?

[dense basin]

No

They are all on planets

If you can't find them, check the pins for coordinates

[warm sigil]

The waypoint took me to a derelict freighter.

[dense basin]

You do need to do a derelict freighter to finish the expedition

But it isn't an anchor point

[warm sigil]

I don't like combat. 😰

[dense basin]

The freighter in the Anchor 5 system doesn't have much combat. There are a few jellies and a few combat drones. No biological horrors.

Just make sure you have a lot of batteries 🙂

[warm sigil]

This is Anchor 2.

Why is there a duplicate of my character's helmet floating in the entryway?

[dense basin]

Ah, you are experiencing a rare event

You don't need to do that derelict

You can leave

[warm sigil]

I have thirteen Ion Batteries and three Thermal Protection Units.

[warm sigil]

What event?

[dense basin]

It's very rare, but you can happen upon someone else's freighter while pulsing

The mandatory freighter doesn't happen until you're on iteration 5

(are you on iteration 5?)

[warm sigil]

Iteration 2.

[dense basin]

In that case, this one is not mandatory

I can't speak to what you'll find on it in terms of combat

[warm sigil]

What is the threat level? The rewards?

Gravitational anomalies, it seems.

[dense basin]

Freighters vary by system for both. In the expedition, they will all give you somnal dust in addition to the usual tainted metal

All freighters have a gravitational anomaly

[warm sigil]

Would this count for the later mission?

[dense basin]

No

That one is provoked by a specific event

[barren creek]

It doesn't seem to be doing anything...

[dense basin]

This one will give you things to turn in to Polo

[dense basin]

Land on the anchor planet, then

[barren creek]

Doesn't seem to do anything then either.

[warm sigil]

How possible is it to nope out of there if things get too dangerous?

[dense basin]

You may need to hit it twice

[dense basin]

If you're already in combat you may find it challenging.

For a first time freighter, I'd have a look around and see if there are signs of infestation. If there are, leave

[warm sigil]

I'm in my ship wondering how likely it is I'll be soiling myself.

[warm sigil]

What signs?

[barren creek]

I hit it a few times, still nothing. Am I just on the wrong part of the planet?

[dense basin]

Pustules on the floor & wall

[warm sigil]

I've never found derelict freighters before.

[dense basin]

You're sure you're on the right planet?

[dense basin]

You can't usually just find them - you have to pay to find them

It's incredibly rare

[barren creek]

Alecapae Beta, yeah.

[dense basin]

Have you tried a reload?

[barren creek]

Not yet. Will do.

[dense basin]

When I did mine from the atmosphere I was right above the anchor

You may need to be beside it

[barren creek]

Oh. How do I find the anchor?

[dense basin]

Oh, have you not been to the anchor on that planet yet?

Its coordinates are Lat/Long: +19.42, +56.57

I believe you do need to hit the anchor before the doodad will work

[barren creek]

I'm still on wake the past in iteration one

[dense basin]

Oh

Then you need to be on the anchor 1 planet

Not anchor 2

[barren creek]

what

[warm sigil]

Warning of severe incident placing the freighter on lockdown, a teleporter, and some Repair Kits.

[barren creek]

The game said to warp to a different system to use it... what the heck

[dense basin]

It lied 😠

You always use the memory thinger at each anchor planet

Then move on

And

Be prepared for an adventure when you do (move fast)

[barren creek]

Yeah.

[dense basin]

They all say this

[dense basin]

That's Anchor 1

[warm sigil]

First log mentions an experimental surgical drone.

[dense basin]

The logs are mostly flavour. They'll tell you a story

[warm sigil]

Second mentions immortal jelly.

[dense basin]

One of them will give you credentials that you'll need later on

[barren creek]

oh

[warm sigil]

The first one did.

[dense basin]

In that case, the logs are just fun reading from now on

[static willow]

I don’t enjoy the flavour of derelicts

[dense basin]

I like them

Well

not the infested ones

They take too long

[warm sigil]

What happens if I depressurize this capsule?

[dense basin]

You get some goop

[warm sigil]

Safe?

[dense basin]

Yep

Ugh, game, I'm trying to do some science here

[warm sigil]

Seems to have been an infection or outbreak?

[dense basin]

I think losing an entire iteration to a crash is more irritating than death

[dense basin]

There are different stories

The mandatory one is unique to the expedition

[warm sigil]

Is it possible for there to be no combat?

Is a Scatter Blaster good?

[dense basin]

Yes, it's possible for there to be no combat

Weapon good/bad is a matter of taste

the scatter blaster is excellent for close combat

It's bad for anything ranged

[warm sigil]

FESTE4INH PUSTULES

[dense basin]

walk around them very carefully

if you see any big ones hanging from the ceiling, don't move if they turn red and pulse

You are probably better off leaving

[warm sigil]

One's front of the door.

[dense basin]

Not that you couldn't do it, but I'd hate for you to lose your iteration to biological horrors - and they spawn if you hit a pustule

[dense basin]

Yeah, that red thing on the right is a nest

but they will both spawn horrors

the last freighter has pustules on the floor, but they don't spawn horrors - they give dust

[warm sigil]

What does the teleporter in the airlock do?

[dense basin]

it's a destination

there are teleporters further into the ship that go to it

[warm sigil]

Will it be possible to return if I leave?

[dense basin]

I'm not sure - I've never tried.

Pretty sure you can if it's your freighter

[warm sigil]

Well, I got 2 Somnal Dust, 9 Living Slime, a couple thousand Units, 3 Repair Kits, and 29 Tainted Metal.

[dense basin]

Even the infested ones aren't bad once you're used to them

Especially with a scatter blaster. I just wouldn't do that for your first time in a perma save

[barren creek]

One down, four to go.

[dense basin]

Don't forget you don't have to do them in order

[barren creek]

Well, 3.9 since I got to 1 million units way before the game intended lol

[livid marsh]

the maps to sentinel pillars drop from the glass, right?

[dense basin]

They can. The reward for killing 20 sentinels is a map, though

And the other guaranteed place is from a walker

[livid marsh]

just got one from examining ten glass on repeat (the reload trick)

thanks for the info, though

[drifting helm]

Wait you have to explore derelict freighter for expedition? I thought only crashed freighter

[dense basin]

It's one of the scrambled objectives

And it's a specific one, so you can't do it early

[drifting helm]

Damn. Is there any way to not get attacked by those alien mite things? I know they hide in the weird glowy things

What the other two scrambled objectives?

[dense basin]

They're spoilers

[drifting helm]

All I need to know is are they super difficult compared to the other objectives

[dense basin]

They're very easy imo

The freighter is the hardest part, and it's one of the easiest freighters I've ever done

[drifting helm]

That’s somewhat good to hear. I’ve only died thrice and I’m playing super carefully now…

[dense basin]

If the last objective scares you, just remember that I said it's easy and don't lose your noodle. It really is.

[drifting helm]

That makes me worry I’ll be honest….
Oh well. I guess I don’t need to worry about until i get there, IF I even get there

[dense basin]

It's designed to scare you, but that's all it is. A scare.

[drifting helm]

I see. I only play Creative and a super casual normal save, so here’s hoping that still applies

[dense basin]

||You die at the end. But you don't lose any of your progress. They just scare the crap out of you.||

Click or don't click 😄

[drifting helm]

Ohhhhh. I see. I remember reading that in a guide on the expedition somewhere. I thought you meant another objective/mission

[dense basin]

That is the objective

It just has a different name

Break the loop, or something like that

[drifting helm]

Oh. But that’s not difficult really, so freighter one is probably hardest?

And then you get the whale right

[dense basin]

Freighter definitely the hardest of those, yes. And it's one of the easier freighters. Jellies and drones. The pustules are just full of dust.

[drifting helm]

Oh really? No biological horror things?
That actually really relieving

[dense basin]

No horrors. It totally looks infested, but it isn't

[drifting helm]

That’s good to hear

I’m judging by your knowledge you’re one of the few so far who completed the expedition?

[dense basin]

3 times so far

[drifting helm]

Wait. You completed it three times? So like three saves?

[dense basin]

Yes

I'm doing a 4th now to test things

[drifting helm]

That gives me hope. On phase 3 rn

[muted solar]

How can you do this expedition? I really love the living freighters or whatever you wanna call them. This expedition just seems rough

[drifting helm]

Living freighters? What? You mean the whale frigate thing

[dense basin]

Hey - just wanted to let you know I did some testing and freighter bases do stick. Not only do they stick, but the missions I sent my frigates out on continued. No inventory, though.

[muted solar]

@drifting helm yes.

[dense basin]

It helps if you have a little experience playing survival, to be honest. If you don't, then it's helpful to know what the differences are and spend a little time getting used to them before you go to a rager of a planet like anchor 4

[drifting helm]

It’s rough, but play carefully and you’ll be ok. Going well for me so far

Think normal mode but more expensive

[dense basin]

Also, your minotaur is a great friend - make use of it

[drifting helm]

^^Yes

[muted solar]

Ahh thanks

[drifting helm]

Depends on your preference, but maybe play single player rather than multiplayer, that way it’s a bit easier to pause the game, plus you can also reload a save instantly if something goes south

[dense basin]

yeah, think of it this way - you can either reload if things start getting sketchy and lose a few minutes, or be stubborn and start from the beginning.

Just remember that you have a save point - use it often

And playing in single player is much, much safer in this expedition 🙃

[drifting helm]

Yep 👍 ^^

[ionic thunder]

Is anyone able to help boost me thru the expedition? I can help you in return. I work too much to finish it in time

[gilded tiger]

There's 4 weeks left and ppl have finished it in 4 hours. You still have lots of time

[ionic thunder]

Oh wow 4hrs? Guess I'm used to the old expeditions

Or I just play way too slow

[gilded tiger]

I mean, that's pro run I guess. It took me 17 hours 🤣

[ionic thunder]

Fair enough lol

Every loop can I reclaim the rewards from last loop?

Idk how to phrase it

[gilded tiger]

I'm not sure since I didn't die. But from the one necessary death, I did get back all the modules

[tacit silo]

needed a break for cleaning the house and making dinner/meal prep but it's done.

fun expedition

[dense basin]

No, alas

You can reclaim the optional milestone rewards and "iterate/repeat" from Iteration One, but everything else has to be done over.

There's a pin on what persists

[tacit silo]

once you uhh do the thing its no longer permadeath right? just survival rules?

[dense basin]

Once you complete Iteration 5, it's just survival, yes

[tacit silo]

lovely

[dense basin]

Actually, I think I didn't even lose my inventory when I test died

I'd have to retest

[tacit silo]

kinda want to hang out in this expedition save I like it so thats great to know I can use a jetpack again

[dense basin]

I used it the whole way through 😄

I melee boost in perma though so

[tacit silo]

braver than me, my 2nd death was to a firestorm sending me to the moon and from then on I was shook

getting caught a few more times in storms, thankfully inside bases, cemented that

[dense basin]

ooh, those firestorm + windstorm events are rude

That's how I got the reckless title (which is still one of my faves)

[tacit silo]

like, I can ride that fine in my normal save, but dang did it hurt with like 0 tank and no air recharge to flutter through it it was just 'oooops there I go, and there I went splat'

[dense basin]

I admit that I'm very, very cautious about how far I boost with it, and where

I did once, unwisely, eat a blue boost flower and then boost away, failing to notice that I was just about at the top of a mountain. So I crested it, and there was a cliff below me, and that was the end of that save.

[tacit silo]

also I just love sending my initial frigate on a mission with the dang Normandy and a Leviathan... the crew on the dinky little boat has to have serious jealousy going on

[dense basin]

Normandy is before my time, alas

I can only dream

[tacit silo]

have to assume they'll keep bringing back old expeditions as a treat and that one was dirt easy so you'll get it one day

[dense basin]

I hope they do

[tacit silo]

now to find a nice calm planet to retire on and farm memories/set up a base/found a settlement

or maybe not, would be swell to revert nanite costs once it's done but I guess I can farm those out too just gonna have to be a pretty big operation

[fair dirge]

still playing this expedition to grind out the universal loop progress for everyone

[dense basin]

I kind of like shooting up deposits for liquid sun

And I don't mind the derelicts either. I am not a fan of the animals though.

[fair dirge]

liquid sun is fun to grind, honestly

[dense basin]

@indigo falcon In the course of my testing I found another persistent thing - your character customization also stays.

[dense basin]

If only it didn't burn through sodium quite that fast

[fair dirge]

yeah, but that's when you load up a ship with sodium from either flowers or just buying it from stations

[dense basin]

Oh I know

I have heaps of it from scrapping ships anyway

[ionic thunder]

I'm surprised no one has duped it to oblivion yet

[dense basin]

You can only turn in 20x per day

so there's no point

[fair dirge]

pretty sure each individual player can only submit 20 times that count yeah

[ionic thunder]

I see, glad they thought of that lol

Also, 20 liquid sun or 20x 250

[dense basin]

They know their players >.>

20 x 250

[ionic thunder]

gotcha

[dense basin]

But I usually do some somnal dust too

freighters don't take long

[ionic thunder]

Speaking of freighters I was surprised we started with one

[dense basin]

I was surprised it could be summoned without a hyperdrive, but 🪄

[ionic thunder]

lol for real

[cerulean olive]

Kinda sad that, when adding the space whale frigate to my fleet, I had to dismiss another to make room for it.

[cold needle]

Anyone know a great way to farm for Salvage Data? I need a bunch so it can research the geobay

[tawny herald]

The fastest way would be to run around a planet that has salvage data readily available to excavate. Missions take too long and may not even offer them as rewards.

The costs for researching during the current expedition are inflated, so don't invest too heavily into some things.

[cold needle]

Yeah they are!

[winter lion]

What in the world is “A Dreadful Wailing?”

[cold needle]

Wanting to upgrade a good bunch of things so that I can convert the save at the end of the expedition

Anyone remember which is the starting planet for the Leviathan expedition?

[minor breach]

#nms-expedition message

That’s the pin tells you everything

[cold needle]

Awesome. Thank you!

[minor breach]

Np

[hasty venture]

Spoilers for the ending of the expedition ||I guess the expedition turns from a perma to simple survival right?||

[wraith venture]

the save isn't really perma. it will turn from current expedition mode to survival mode tho.

[hasty venture]

Mhm

So as I figured.

Not normal but survival

[wraith venture]

i want it to become my survival save so it's cool

[wraith venture]

correct. diff from all prior expos

[hasty venture]

I will prolly use that as my survival one as well

[ashen turret]

and the one before this was pretty different too... starting in a galaxy other than Euclid

[hasty venture]

I speedran the last 2 expeditions.

6 hours on the blighted and 8 on Leviathan. Slow as hell but still. Managed to do it.

[ashen turret]

or maybe it was the one before that, not so sure now

[drifting helm]

I’m curious, if you get whale frigate do you have to replace an old one? Mine are S-class in another save….I don’t want to replace if I don’t have to….

Also what is the whale’s specialty as a frigate? Any specialty perks?

[leaden fable]

Yo the leviathan took me 5 hours

[vivid crater]

How do you get a frigate

Idc about the class I just want one because I wanna go nomadic

[ashen turret]

uh - frigates don't help you be mobile lol

[leaden fable]

Just go to different places n fly out n sometimes freighters will pop up and then green signs will pop up n those are frigates

[drifting helm]

Frigates don’t send you places. You send them places

[vivid crater]

Ohhhhhhh

[minor breach]

I think they meant freighters

[vivid crater]

That makes sense

[drifting helm]

Wait

[vivid crater]

Yeah those

The big ones

[drifting helm]

So freighters? I see

[minor breach]

Those are like space bases basically

[vivid crater]

Do I have to build those or can I like yknow steal them

[minor breach]

You get one for free after warping 5 times and having 3h or more played

[drifting helm]

It’s like a giant space RV

[vivid crater]

Is that the easiest way

[drifting helm]

Well, you could find and buy one, but they are very expensive

[vivid crater]

Expensive yikes, doesn’t sound good for someone who just started playing

[minor breach]

Depending on class anywhere from 35m-200m

[ashen turret]

this expedition is not intended for players that have never played the game before

[vivid crater]

I found this S Class Explorer but it’s all broken and buried in the ground

Should I repair it

If I can

I don’t think I’d be able to

[barren creek]

What ship did you start with?

[drifting helm]

You mean you got S-Class ship in expedition?

[vivid crater]

The tutorial one

[drifting helm]

Or you talking about normal save

[ashen turret]

it's technically usable once you get the pulse drive and launch thruster repaired

[vivid crater]

Normal Save

[drifting helm]

Ah

[vivid crater]

I found this on a diff planet on an entirely new system

[ashen turret]

don't necessarily even need the shield

[barren creek]

Oh. You ought to go to #no-mans-sky then.

[drifting helm]

It’s not that hard to get a crashed ship going, but it really depends on what you got, what you need, and the planet conditions

[vivid crater]

the planet is in a firestorm

rn

and the computer needs an atlas pass

i saw one of those in the anomaly

[barren creek]

I'd repair the launch thrusters and pulse engine so that you can get the ship to a station and scrap it. Then you can use the credits to save up for a new ship.

[drifting helm]

I haven’t started a new normal save in forever, so I don’t know what it’s like to start recently. Only the expeditions, but those are pretty different since they give you some stuff

You could always take the ship and fix it later if you really want it

(I think you can still have more than one ship without a freighter)

[vivid crater]

WHAT THE HELL A HUGE WORM JUST CAME OUT KF THE GROUND

[ashen turret]

🙂 welcome to No Man's Sky

the worms are good for a nice little scare the first time you see, or rather feel, them

even more interesting if you happen to have sound on

[drifting helm]

You might even be able to tame your own one day 😉

[ashen turret]

not any more

you could get one as a pet from a previous expedition

[drifting helm]

Yes but I’m sure they will re-run the old expeditions time and time again

[ashen turret]

wouldn't bet on it

[drifting helm]

I feel like they will at least once a year or something, otherwise you could always get an egg from a friend

[terse dust]

Alright, 500 more Somnal Dust in the tank, time to hit the hay.

If they reran all the expeditions every year, at this rate we'd run out of room in the year to not have old expeditions running by 2023-24.

[terse olive]

Hahahah the cost of things in this expedition

amazingly high

is that on purpose or is perma death like that?

[indigo falcon]

it's deliberate so that we don't just buy all the stuff we need to be comfortable but rely on memory fragments instead

[terse olive]

ah I see. it is kind of fun.
Actually farming those broken machineries gave me more stuff

[indigo falcon]

😄

[terse olive]

oh wait a minute! who do i contact to get all my roles I completed all expeditions except this one

so this expedition and the one where we were stuck on the planet are my favorites

[nocturne blade]

I somehow completed this expedition without dying besides the first one

Where do you get Leviathan role?

[calm flax]

I've done the Expedition once on Steam and once on Xbox PC so far. I've been going to crashed ships on the starting planet. I got the economy scanner that way. You can also get other tech that way. On a Vy'Keen planet I try to visit minor settlements and the NPC's there will sometimes take your multitool from you and give you another one. Usually broken. I got 2 A 24 rifles that way when I started one of my permadeath saves. They're usually not hard to repair though.

[topaz brook]

Unless they had them overlap

[indigo falcon]

see pinned messages about how to get the Leviathan role

for the other expeditions, they are self-assign in the #roles channel I believe

[topaz brook]

Instead of a shorter length of time to play each one sequentially, have 8 weeks where you can play all of them

[indigo falcon]

At this point people start off with A class mt and ship so no need to hunt for that now, the crashed ship advice is good though

[topaz brook]

Each one appearing in a submenu following the selection of the “expedition” option

[calm flax]

I usually get a crappy pistol with no slots on it so I try to get a better rifle if I can.

[indigo falcon]

if you have 2.2 million units (I think that's the cost): outlaw system Sklanedysn X/"Diplo Where", 70LY from Cebrac-Eliwyn has an S 18 slot rifle in cabinet at the station

[calm flax]

Since I"ve finished the expedition on Xbox I've found a nice S 19 solar ship and a S 34+9 Sentinel freighter just out looking around for a paradise planet. Still haven't found the paradise planet.

[calm flax]

Thanks so much. I'm going to keep that in my notes in case I do another save on my Xbox Series X.

[marsh haven]

What kind of paradise planet?

[indigo falcon]

once you have access to an outlaw system, smuggling your way up to some weatlh isn't too hard (lbuy, go to anomaly, go from there to any reguilar system, sell, repeat...)

[calm flax]

Just a nice one without steep mountains.

[marsh haven]

I mean, there seem to be several aliases for Paradise. You can find bountiful worlds with calm weather.

[calm flax]

yeah I know but, the one's I've found so far have had storms on them.

I'm pretty sure it's harder to find actual paradise planets on permadeath. The ones that don't have storms. The way I look at it is all paradise planets are lush planets but, not all lush planets are paradise planets.

[gilded tiger]

DM mod with screenshot of expedition tab

[ashen shore]

hi

can someone help me do some missions?

[calm flax]

Which screenshot are you referring to?

[indigo falcon]

Weather is generally worse in survival/perma, though you can find true paradises as far as weather if you continue to hunt.

[gilded tiger]

The one with the phases. The last screen will show completed

[indigo falcon]

you will probably want to ask in #nms-lfg-or-trades for that, but be patient, the channel can be quiet at times

[calm flax]

Yeah. I've got a paradise planet on my normal save that I have an activated indium base on . On my survival save it has extreme sentinels.

[calm flax]

You mean this one?

That's my Steam save

[gilded tiger]

Yes. You can post on #nms-photomode-gallery and tag a mod or just PM a mod

[calm flax]

I'll post it on #nms-photomode-gallery

[ashen shore]

!leviathanrole

[unkempt kraken]

Leviathan role is manually assigned, when you DM or ping <@&590975379678953522> with proof of completion: screenshot of the Expedition tab: Final Phase: 5/5 completed. See example »

If you don't have proof, the role will be self-assignable in #roles at a later date.

[leaden fable]

Oh that’s how you get it

[calm flax]

Now I understand why you asked me to post the picture. I didn't know about the Leviathan role.

@hushed oyster I guess I'm suppose to tag your name when I post a screenshot in #nms-photomode-gallery that the Expedition is completed.

[hushed oyster]

Yes, or dm

Could post here too

[calm flax]

I did above

[hushed oyster]

Alright then

Oh wait

You already have the role?

[calm flax]

and in #nms-photomode-gallery

[indigo falcon]

you already have the role?

look at the icon!

[calm flax]

Thanks. I don't look at things like that much.

[indigo falcon]

🙂

[wraith venture]

Please make sure to remind players to tag Moderators when posting their screenshots.

Two that were posted didn't tag anyone.

I just happened to see them by chance.

[indigo falcon]

ouchie

[wraith venture]

Thank you

[indigo falcon]

I was probably sleepiing then...

and might actually spend time doing irl work today / this week, heh

[wraith venture]

awww sorry, Apergos. didn't mean that to be directed at you. just the channel in general.

[indigo falcon]

yep I got it

this is the quiet time for helpers in the channel I think

[wraith venture]

people are being told to just post in #nms-photomode-gallery but we need to be notified. they can DM too.

[indigo falcon]

folks do not check the pins, for whatever reason, yeah

[ashen shore]

@wraith venture More of a suggestion but maybe consider having Gunter posting the response every hour or so

[static willow]

[wraith venture]

will do

[ashen shore]

But yeah IMO it's up to players to look for that info, not staff to feed it to the chat

[indigo falcon]

oh hey Friendly 🙂 I'm gonna close the discord and only pop in from time to time today so

[wraith venture]

!LeviathanRole does ask them to tag. but they don't seem to read that either

[unkempt kraken]

does ask them to tag. but they son't seem to read that either :CS_cry_Kayo:

Leviathan role is manually assigned, when you DM or ping <@&590975379678953522> with proof of completion: screenshot of the Expedition tab: Final Phase: 5/5 completed. See example »

If you don't have proof, the role will be self-assignable in #roles at a later date.

[jagged charm]

No surprise there

[summer oyster]

Can I just say this expeditions mechanics besides the death resetting was a blast to play through now that I am think about it, like I love the fact you get memory fragments as upgrades and plans from the expedition rewards as instead of buying them at space stations and learning blueprints from the space anomaly, such a different way to play.

[static willow]

I loved it

[wraith venture]

it makes me so happy when i read these reviews tbh

[static willow]

I actually got physical vertigo a couple times

Fear of death in a Perma mode, lol

[wraith venture]

i'm happy that HG was daring to try something pretty unique in their new seasonal content format that's expeditions. and they also got to address the wishes of folks who wanted survival and/or permadeath expo game mode

[calm flax]

The bugs and glitches in multiplayer was what almost got me not to finish. Then not having the ability to get some of the things I normally use in the game the way I normally get them was something I didn't care for.

[static willow]

I can’t understand how succinct this is. A lot of us have long since burned out playing normal mode / late game, but this was a complete breath of fresh air.

[calm flax]

To me just simple things like the economy scanner or the personal refiner. Even the prefabs, extractors and power.

[static willow]

I actually really liked that it forced me to change my playstyle in different ways

Oh, I got an economy scanner from a technology module around anchor 2

That’s another thing I think is amazing about this mode, the experiences are so variable between runs

[calm flax]

I've been starting permadeath saves lately and deleting them after a few hours. The only thing I changed was to disable multiplayer to minimize bugs and glitches.

[calm flax]

I got the economy scanner on the starting planet after visiting a few crashed ships.

[static willow]

Back around beyond I lost an 83 hour Perma save to falling out of freighter bug

[summer oyster]

Oh and learning the blueprint for memory fragment crafting for upgrades, that's a serious new mechanic there too!

[static willow]

I also fought every freighter battle and all the Pirates I came across, so much suspicious technology

Though I doubt many people did as much warping

[calm flax]

I lost a 100 hours save that was going really good. I even had a S class long Venator freighter. I thought I was safe at a galactic trade terminal in a trading post. Wrong. A tornado sucked me up and slammed me into the side of a mountain.

[static willow]

Where are you inside a safe area?

Apparently there’s no such thing

[calm flax]

Yeah. I just started another one to get over it. I was at the trade terminal at a trading post.

[static willow]

It’s really harsh when it’s not any of your own actions caused the death

Going to try and make it to Eissentam on my expedition save tonight

[calm flax]

That's why I don't get too serious with my permadeath saves. I tend not to have over 100 hours on any of them. I put most of the hours on normal and survival saves. I've got over 2k hours on my main normal save and probably a thousand hours on my survival save. I'd have to check on the survival save. It's been quite a while since I've played it.

[static willow]

3k Hours? Impressive

[edgy heath]

BRO I thought the milestones would save after death so you wouldn't have to get EVERY single one again.......

[calm flax]

Overall I've probablly got over 4k hours

I know players that have twice the hours I have though so I'm probably in the middle of the pack for hours.

[edgy heath]

I just spent 8 hours trying to do the expedition just to die before the last few and lost all the progress

[static willow]

Fun Fact: If you played NMS for 16 hours a day (assuming 8 for sleep) since release, you could have 33,904 hours

[static willow]

Welcome to the club, was that your first (real) death?

[edgy heath]

Ya

[calm flax]

Just so you know the video contains spoilers. Saying that though this video is from BeebleBum and gives a good strategy for completing the Expedition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWjhSPxj38w

[edgy heath]

Ima go to bed and try again tommrow

[ashen shore]

break the loop

Lol, be a Gek, the loop will leave in you piece

[static willow]

Sometimes you break the loop, sometimes the loop breaks you

[pure elm]

Good morning, later today imma continue my expedition and hope I don't die again lol

[calm flax]

I'd rather contend with the loop than being a Gek.

[pure elm]

I'm gonna have a look at a spoiler free tips video to see if there's anything useful

[edgy heath]

I died in the final freighter.....

[ashen shore]

Every OOF procedural

[edgy heath]

This is my final straw

I WAS GOING TO DO A MANUAL SAVE BEFORE GETTING ON IT BUT I SAID SREW IT I NEED TO GI TO BED SOON

[ashen shore]

No memes please @static willow

[dense basin]

It would have reset anyway

[calm flax]

BeebleBum even has that covered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtDr1oOrY7A&t=8s

[edgy heath]

Lol

[calm flax]

I did that one myself.

[dense basin]

Stack of batteries, go slow.

[static willow]

My derelict wasn't bad at all

[calm flax]

Until one of the doors won't open and you can't complete the derelict freighter.

[dense basin]

Then you reload 😄

[static willow]

Drones, turrets, and a few jellies

[dense basin]

The derelict in anchor 5 is pretty good

[static willow]

Yeah, I did it in Anchor 5

[calm flax]

I just went to the derelict freighter BeebleBum had in his video and it worked out good.

[static willow]

I did this whole expedition blind, but that might explain why I died so many times. kek

[dense basin]

Anchor 5's is very chill, one of the easier ones I've done unless your only weapon is a scatter blaster

I did it blind too 😄

[calm flax]

The first expedition save I warped to a neighboring system and did the derelict freighter there.

[dense basin]

I did random ones in other systems for dust, and they weren't as nice

but

scatter blaster

24 slot rifle on an outlaw system 50ish LY from the start with a preinstalled SB

[edgy heath]

Ight well night fellers

[hearty gate]

Im a bit scared for the goods smuggling badge

[calm flax]

I usually use the scatter blaster. This time I used the boltcaster. I don't know how I did it but, with the upgrades I had I've never seen the boltcaster this powerful before.

[hearty gate]

Its a new mechanic and im just mow returning, overall this expedition seems really easy

[dense basin]

buy your lewt, summon the anomaly, teleport to a regular space station

no authorities, just sweet units

[hearty gate]

What loot

[dense basin]

contraband

[hearty gate]

Do I need pirates or anything?

[dense basin]

You need to go to an outlaw station

A pirate-controlled system

[hearty gate]

Ahhh, there will probably be one in the anchor system for that badge

[dense basin]

Alternatively, if you go grab some nip-nip from any of the player bases and sell that, it works

[calm flax]

I got a surprise on the first expedition save. I raided someone's geknip base and went to another system to sell it. That got me the achievement for the contraband.

[dense basin]

Nope

[static willow]

I grabbed that on loop3, but on subsequent ones I got the Hyperdrive module and didn't bother. Now I've portaled to two known systems to get an Experimental and an Alien, need to grab a royal, and then I'll turn this pistol into a Core jump sacrificial

[calm flax]

The second time I did it it didn't work

[static willow]

I think Nip acquired from grow time glitched bases doesn't count

[dense basin]

Outlaw stations are in pirate controlled systems and none of the anchor systems are pirate controlled

[static willow]

I do feel like some of the cheater resource bases are destroying the experience for new players tho

[calm flax]

I don't remember where I got the first geknip I just was surprised when it worked.

[static willow]

waves his fist in the air at item duplicators

[dense basin]

It's a lot easier now than it was at the start, but I can't be mad at it since not everyone enjoys the pain of this game mode

I do think it's funny that this is the expedition I've run the most

[hearty gate]

Im probably gonna need the scanner, on top of needing the mino mining+cannon

[calm flax]

You'd have both fist in the air waving them if you knew how I got my S 34+9 sentinel freighter on my last expedition save

[hearty gate]

Thats a bit of nanites, but ill have enough after the freighter easy

[calm flax]

Considering I only had around 14m when I went in the freighter after the freighter battle

[static willow]

One anomaly I went to the was a guy giving out a stack of AI valves to every player who came through

[dense basin]

You know everything costs 10x more?

[dense basin]

oof

[static willow]

50,000 nanites for paint. Whee!

[hearty gate]

I know, i think ill need 3-5000 for the economy and the mino bits total

Unless the economy scanner is stupid high

[static willow]

I mean, if you go to a resources base to grab some, that's one thing. But forcing high value items on new players is just low

[dense basin]

you'll get the minotaur upgrades from memories; I wouldn't waste nanites on them unless you're really impatient

[calm flax]

I duped enough so I could get an AI valve to dupe it but, almost no ships came in the space station. The one's that did maxed out at around 15m so I couldn't get an AI valve from them.

[static willow]

Everything is 10x cost, Med Refiner is 100 salvage data!

[hearty gate]

I havent been, isnt that rng

[static willow]

120 nanite upgrades are 1200, lol

[dense basin]

Some memories are for exos

But everything in this exped is rng 😄

[static willow]

RNG can really make or break the expedition

[hearty gate]

But the nanite costs dont seem too atrocious, that isnt salvage data

[dense basin]

I got all the mino upgrades each run

[static willow]

All nanite costs are also 10x

[dense basin]

they're literally 10x the normal cost

[hearty gate]

Alright well again

[calm flax]

I didn't use the mech or nautilon either time I did the expedition.

[dense basin]

By all means, go ahead if you have them!

[static willow]

6k nanites for S class modules

I'm sure those are legitimate nanites in your pocket there

[dense basin]

lol

[calm flax]

One of the ways I like to get nanites is scanning all the creatures on planets.

[dense basin]

I have got nothing but crap upgrades so far, so I have many™️ nanites

[hearty gate]

Well for the mino its like 3-4k nanites like i said

[static willow]

Yeah, I turn in lots of discoveries

Why are X modules only worth 56 tho!

lmao

[dense basin]

I also spend a lot of time being piratical and converting units into nanites

[calm flax]

Something that surprised me is how crappy some of the A class upgrades are

[static willow]

Do they sell for normal prices in outlaw stations?

[hearty gate]

I dont know for the economy scanner, but i should get a few thousand from the freighter and id imagine that will be enough

[dense basin]

What do you mean?

[static willow]

Oh you sweet summer child

He can't pay attention, cuz he's on that dust.

[dense basin]

Oh

oh

tainted metal?

I hope you aren't relying on that

[static willow]

Yeah, you'll get dusted with that expectation in this expedition

🥁

[dense basin]

Let me try again while being less of a jerk. Where you would normally get tainted metal, you mostly get somnal dust during the expedition

They really do not want you to have nanites

[static willow]

Or certain weaponry

Though why they didn't take the otherwise restricted items out of the RNG for fragments is anyone's speculation.

[static willow]

Maybe we were too harsh? I thought the Beastie Boys reference was good tho

I'm a gangster, I'm a prankster - I'm the king of the Ave.
I'm hated, confrontated for the juice that I have
All the fly ladies are making a fuss...
*But I can't pay attention - 'cause I'm on that dust

[dense basin]

Of all the S class ships to fly in while I'm looking for a different ship... Ugh.

[static willow]

[dense basin]

Also, lol

[static willow]

You won't get shot up, but you also may not be able to run away.

I actually contemplated making this an 'ugly ship' run, and just finding the most atrocious ships for my fleet

[dense basin]

Look at all my inventory, I guess

I want to do it in an explorer this time

[smoky meadow]

boost speed for ships without upgrades is actually the same

[dense basin]

I can't see coordinates in fighters & solars and its annoying

[static willow]

Grab one of those ugly af asymmetric explorers

[dense basin]

Oh, I don't care about boost - I care about maneuverability

[static willow]

Constant stick down and left

[smoky meadow]

boost for running away

[dense basin]

run... away...?

[dense basin]

PC

[static willow]

I also hate looking for coords when I'm in ships with bad cockpit vis

[smoky meadow]

from pirates or sentinels

[static willow]

One of the few advantages of console / controller play

[dense basin]

There is a key for it, but it's so unintuitive I regularly forget what it is

[static willow]

Though they hosed the build system for us in favor of PC players.

I actually play the game on both PC and XB, kek

[smoky meadow]

tested the other day an maneuverability doesnt matter for me if im playing with mouse

[static willow]

Alt

[dense basin]

ah yes, right you are

[static willow]

Free look is much wonkier with only one stick (mouse) though.

[smoky meadow]

true i dont even know what free look is

[static willow]

With a controller you can adjust your trajectory and simultaneously free look, on PC it's very clunky feeling.

[dense basin]

moving your camera without affecting your trajectory

[static willow]

looking around with your right stick or holding Alt on PC

[dense basin]

I do it all the time in MMOs but it works completely differently here

[static willow]

Anyone play with a Joystick?

I wonder how that would be

[dense basin]

I have one, but it didn't even occur to me to try

I can't imagine it being great for anything other than the flight bits

[static willow]

Yeah, and even those aren't traditional flightsim style

But it might make combat and planetary flight more palatable on PC

Depending on the HW / assignability

[dense basin]

I haven't used that joystick since I stopped playing E:D, and that's been a couple years

[static willow]

I have an adaptive controller (made for people with disabilities) for XB and I was thinking of how to adapt it for NMS.

[smoky meadow]

i think mouse is superior to help with aiming in space battle (specially since it ignores maneuverability and mouse is just more precise)

[smoky meadow]

maybe harder learning curve though

[static willow]

It's basically an open ended interface that accepts any kind of switch (you can use a guitar pedal for instance) or even a vacuum activated switch (for people who can only really use their head an mouth), really cool stuff.

Saw a quadriplegic dude gaming on an XBOX using only his head, basically. Wild

[dense basin]

That's super wild

[foggy cloak]

Hmm, headless Jack's head in NMS!?

[static willow]

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/accessories/controllers/xbox-adaptive-controller

[calm flax]

I agree with you about the mouse being better at aiming. I've just played NMS so long with a controller I don't think I could do it on a keyboard. I do play Scum with mouse/keyboard though.

[static willow]

Really cool of MSFT to make something inclusive for less abled gamers.

laughs in Wing Commander 2

[indigo falcon]

I'll only be here from time to time today... passing on a message from the backscroll, when people ask how to get the expedition role, please remind them to ping or dm a mod, just posting the screenshot isn't enough. (anyone lurking in main or help channels, same there too). please pass it on as other experienced folks come in, thanks!

[static willow]

Enjoy your sanity time!

[indigo falcon]

heh my work time more like, but ty!

[static willow]

"Non NMS time"

[dense basin]

"life"

[static willow]

Sleep, kek

[smoky meadow]

can i get the expedition role?

[static willow]

Post a screenshot of completion and ping the "Moderators" role

[summer oyster]

!leviathanrole @smoky meadow

[unkempt kraken]

@smoky meadow

Leviathan role is manually assigned, when you DM or ping <@&590975379678953522> with proof of completion: screenshot of the Expedition tab: Final Phase: 5/5 completed. See example »

If you don't have proof, the role will be self-assignable in #roles at a later date.

[smoky meadow]

nevermind i dont like pinging anyone

[static willow]

It’s really OK, it’s just a role, and it’s part of what they do. 😉

[hearty gate]

What do we do with the memory items from the anchor planets? Just hold onto them and waste ing space?

[static willow]

Slap them in your freighter storage

[hearty gate]

Boo

[smoky meadow]

maybe next time i beat the expedition xD

waiting for S class stuff

[foggy cloak]

They are LORE

[static willow]

if you’ve got a complete expedition save, make daily contributions to help advance the tier

Polo must be fed

[smoky meadow]

might do it now just for the last push lol

[hearty gate]

Doesnt that just make the memory drops better for people doing the expedition though

[foggy cloak]

Nah, make these newcomers play with c class modules

[static willow]

Upon completion ||the game is no longer in perma and acts like survival mode re: deaths||

[hearty gate]

Unless theres an end redeemable reward

[static willow]

All the fragments will upgrade

There can be only one class in the game at any time

So anything in your inventory saved up will convert to S and maybe eventually X class

Though I think that last part is just speculation if the community goals are reached

[hearty gate]

I halfway want to keep the expedition save and use that, but it feels too easy and no story missions

[smoky meadow]

i am not sure why im doing the expedition again my reasoning is to get a decent starting survival safe with S class stuff but i already have a survival save like that xD

[static willow]

You don’t really need it

Everything can be upgraded, purchased, so much suspicious technology, lots of X class modules out there

[dense basin]

I just tell myself I'm doing it for science. I test new things each time I do it

[smoky meadow]

im actually doing a speedrun, just gotta figure out optimal routing

[static willow]

I wonder if we will still be able to construct a new memory fragments after the expedition is over

Or if those items will just be removed from the game

[smoky meadow]

im guessing they will just become unobtainable

[static willow]

Hold on to that Chrysonite, folks!

[smoky meadow]

what's the fastest way to get stuff for Polo?

[foggy cloak]

Go to a planet and harvest

[smoky meadow]

harvest what?

[dense basin]

liquid sun

or ancestral memories if you like milking animals

I find liquid sun faster

[smoky meadow]

yeah last time i did ancestral memories and i thought it was faster

i did it on the starting planet though thats has a lot of hills

[dense basin]

Yeah, and there are a lot of animals there too

[smoky meadow]

what about somnal dust? could it be faster?

[woeful ore]

That's weird - so should I be reporting the fact that my freighter reset to default?

[dense basin]

I tested with the default freighter but that shouldn't have made a difference

[woeful ore]

Maybe it reset because I did the part exchange thing where I spent a couple of million units

meh, lesson learned

[dense basin]

I wouldn't have thought it'd make a difference, but who knows

I'll test that on my next run

[woeful ore]

when I go back to the freighter I have now, when I speak to the captain, it gives me the text to suggest I sold that freighter. Says he is more relaxed after the sale or somesuch

I haven't tried actually using the freighter yet, will do when I get going again

[dense basin]

Interesting

Might be that then

[static willow]

He is more relaxed because he just gets to be a captain now instead of an owner, all the owner responsibilities are now on you. This is expected flavor text.

[dense basin]

Ohh, that text. I misunderstood

[static willow]

every time I’ve swapped freighters, including in this current expedition, the base reappears as built. Would suggest reload if it went wonky.

[dense basin]

We were talking about failure of the freighter base to stick on death

They generally do

[static willow]

I just experienced a sort of game crashing build bug inside my freighter… doh

[dense basin]

I tested that today, and mine did.

(handy way to "save" some magnetised ferrite too - build all those storage rooms you don't actually need)

[static willow]

I would expect nothing you built (on a freighter) would stick around in this expedition past death, until after

[dense basin]

They do

It behaves like a base

Like I said, I tested it today

[static willow]

Ahhh interesting

Number one scientist

[dense basin]

lol, I think that title belongs to @indigo falcon

[static willow]

I love learning about these hybrid modes.

Got my Anchor in Hilbert set up, about to find a portal and move on

[dense basin]

nice

[static willow]

Are derelicts and the scrap dealer the only ways to get repair kits?

such a grind, can’t decide which is faster for these jumps

[ashen shore]

Nexus missions reward some

But I wouldn't call it farming

[static willow]

ahhh, that’s right

yeah… fr

[ashen shore]

Maybe some minor settlements can sell them

[smoky meadow]

what are the repair kits for?

[static willow]

Repairing broken technology

[dense basin]

You can get them from outlaw stations

if the vendor doesn't have them, the suspicious goods boxes will

[smoky meadow]

nah i meant but what do you need them for?

[static willow]

Oh cool, I have like a bunch of suspicious goods packets, I think a full stack saved up from killing all the Pirates

[ashen shore]

You can use them to repair broken technology pieces

[static willow]

Whenever you ||go through a black hole or go to the galactic core, it ends up destroying technology in your ship / multi tool||

[ashen shore]

Instead of applying materials (like when crafting these), you can apply a Repair Kit

[smoky meadow]

||just buy some basic ship and multi tool for the galactic core jump||

[static willow]

Yeah, ||sacrificial ship & tool, but you still need to repair the ship somewhat for the next jump||

[smoky meadow]

you can trade the old ship for a new one, seems faster than getting repair kits

[static willow]

x255, kek gek kek

Acquiring the hyperdrive modules would be a PITA

there is no easy path

[dense basin]

||It only breaks things that are in general, and you don't need more than what's in there to do the actual core jump||

[smoky meadow]

wait ships dont come with hyperdrive modules?

[dense basin]

They do once you've done the milestone for polo

[static willow]

|| I thought you needed like 1700 range for the core jump… 6 total modules. I slapped all 6 on||

[dense basin]

I don't remember needing that much

[smoky meadow]

also ops i just got 38 memory fragments, i think i overdid it (and 13 emergency broadcast receivers)

[dense basin]

lol

[smoky meadow]

you dont need any range for that xD

[jagged charm]

and off to collect 2k somal dust

again

XD

[jagged charm]

rookie numbers :3

[dense basin]

lol

[jagged charm]

dont mind the stacksizes

i enable my inventory mod after i done the exep XD

[static willow]

Are you getting 2K freighter runs?

[jagged charm]

no

1k top

[static willow]

Yeah, I think I got 793 or something one one run

Was pretty happy with that

[smoky meadow]

||i just afk hitting the monitor||

[hearty gate]

Are we actually missing anything without having the atlas or main quest?

I just rebought the game for ps5 and started again

[static willow]

Not really, and the Artemis storyline is supposed to become available as soon as the expedition is over

You can do atlas currently

[hearty gate]

Ahh, if this is survival then Im half tempted to make it my main and go off to a random code somewhere

[static willow]

I see this expedition as having a multi faceted purpose for HG. A lot of users got daunted by having to go gather all the glyphs, and a completely different set of users wanted a perma or survival expedition.

[hearty gate]

Well wait

[smoky meadow]

wait didnt a milestone give you the glyphs?

[ashen shore]

I think one of them did

[hearty gate]

Will the 10x upgrade cost stay?

Anchor 2 does

[static willow]

Yeah, you get them in iteration 2

[static willow]

They are supposed to go back down to survival mode costs

“Normal prices”

[hearty gate]

Thank god

[static willow]

IKR

Though gathering 100 did change my perspective on harvesting data

[hearty gate]

Its funny cause i havent played in a year

[static willow]

It’s a lot easier with the Minotaur

[hearty gate]

And now those are the only prices i know

[smoky meadow]

||would be nice if they went back to normal after breaking the loop||

[hearty gate]

Theres really not even a need for any data afaik

[static willow]

||Who says it’s broken? || 😉

[static willow]

Continuing on

[hearty gate]

True, i might just switch to a normal survival save from scratch after

I was gonna only do to iteration 3 but its fairly easy and doesnt seem time consuming to do all 5

[static willow]

you can just keep this one going as a normal survival save

|| once you have completed the expedition, you are basically in survival mode, no more perma|| @hearty gate

We did the

[woeful ore]

How did you get so many?

[smoky meadow]

this, here is a video ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUVvFMwH8fs&ab_channel=MachinaAurinko||

[woeful ore]

ty

[static willow]

Omg that’s so cheesy

[ashen shore]

TBH I don't see any value in that method given how inefficient it is

I'd rather do the normal derelict run, collect the Dust and get other loot alongside it

[gilded tiger]

What is the good loot from derelict runs? I've only played it in expedition. Is it the tainted metal?

[static willow]

Yes, normally the tainted metal

[hearty gate]

Yeah but I dont want my main save for a month to have 10x salvaged data costs ☠️

[smoky meadow]

well on the expedition only loot i want is Dust so that method is very effective

setup time is fast and i can go do something else while its doing its thing

[ashen shore]

You can get Larval Cores to refine to nanites, Hypnotic Eyes for the same purpose, Salvaged Frigate Modules for freighter upgrades, high tier trading items to sell to different economies for nice money

And the last terminal lets you get Cargo Bulkheads to increase the inventory size on your freighter (general or tech)

Or various upgrades to freighter and frigate stats

In general, derelicts are box where you put in units but take various goodies out

[gilded tiger]

I recently just found out larval cores turn into nanites, I sold them before 🥲. Now I find out about hypnotic eye

Is there any other use for eye? I think I just saved those

[hearty gate]

How do they become nanites?