I’m not worried about it, I have a billion units on that save
#nms-expedition
scenic moon
Anyone think they could help me get through the expedition?
static willow
Anyone think they could help me get through the expedition?
We be here all ze veek
What’s troubling you?
marsh haven
ultimately, i dont mind what your political view point is, as long as you dont mess with the mechanisim that lets everyone change their mind if your guys policies turn out to be fuckups.
scenic moon
It’s very tough as I’ve just started but after finishing the game I wanted more but inventory space and the constant warping Is very hard to keep up on
static willow
constant warping?
You should only be warping a small number of times during the expedition
nova jay
That is very unfortunate. I would like to continue playing more with this rules.
scenic moon
constant warping?
It’s several light years away the anchor
So I have to keep warping till I get close enough to warp to it
static willow
Shoot for a hyperdrive upgrade
trail venture
install C class upgrades
scenic moon
Trying to now
static willow
these last few runs I’ve managed to pull off only one warp between anchors
wraith badge
That is very unfortunate. I would like to continue playing more with this rules.
Start a Permadeath save
trail venture
install C class upgrades
less expensive and extend enough
static willow
14 hours into this expedition makes the 83 I lost to the permadeath freighter bug feel a little less
marsh haven
i fell out my freighter already in this expedition outside anchor 3. was fun.
trail venture
I have about to 60 on permadeath now
nova jay
Start a Permadeath save
With permadeath, everything really just gone. There is no base, no Freighter. That's the difference.
This Expeditions is really the best balance in there.
static willow
i fell out my freighter already in this expedition outside anchor 3. was fun.
Did you die?
static willow
With permadeath, everything really just gone. There is no base, no Freighter. Th...
Yeah, at least the bases remain
marsh haven
Yeah, at least the bases remain
tried to boost back through the floor. ran out of boost. reloaded while falling.
trail venture
hate when this happens
marsh haven
its happened enough that ive learned to not panic
trail venture
falling through the floor
static willow
I died on iteration four to a sudden attack of seven pirates, was fighting off five chips and then two more traders joined the battle, never seen anything like it, couldn’t even boost away
trail venture
spawning in space when joining someone
static willow
RNG ig
trail venture
its happened enough that ive learned to not panic
yes
static willow
Boosted the shields and they couldn’t even recharge
trail venture
The fun is that in permadeath you have to be like a cat sleep
nova jay
Yeah, at least the bases remain
If I die once and lose the technology I unlocked, what I built is still there. This was huge different.
static willow
Yeah, there’s a lot of stuff that is “broken” in the expedition
trail venture
If I die once and lose the technology I unlocked, what I built is still there. T...
because if you send a base to the server, it will stay there
static willow
Did they change how close you have to be to the exploding starship to grab items?
Feels like the range is closer now
But I wonder if that’s just the expedition
marsh haven
Im with oops on this. Id rather have survival mode like this. death doesnt damage my character. it does a full "lore" reset of the character and starting ship - resets you randomly in euclid. but, because persistence, you get to keep your existing built bases.
static willow
There’s things got me all messed up
static willow
Im with oops on this. Id rather have survival mode like this. death doesnt damag...
Kind of “based”, ngl
trail venture
Did they change how close you have to be to the exploding starship to grab items...
idk, I ever gets through the explosion for the loot
static willow
You don’t try to fly through them?
I’m trying to do all outlaw technology this run
nova jay
I think this Expeditions game rule is a bit revolutionary to NMS. Death functions well as death, and yet the game can continues.
static willow
It’s a nice hybrid
For those of us who have maxed everything in normal and lost everything to permadeath, I think it offers a nice balance and some continued hours of gameplay
nova jay
Just one frustration:
unlocking the building technology is too hard. It would be nice to have the chance to unlock them at random.
static willow
Also, don’t name your base “AP 3 “when it’s 1/4 the way across the planet from the anchor point
static willow
Just one frustration:
unlocking the building technology is too hard. It would b...
You’re not supposed to build
I think that’s part of the point of this expedition
The 10 X modifier is kind of a joke
trail venture
I think this Expeditions game rule is a bit revolutionary to NMS. Death function...
yeah
static willow
Speedrun encapsulated
trail venture
the rogue like kinda perfectly works for survival mode
indigo falcon
Also, don’t name your base “AP 3 “when it’s 1/4 the way across the planet from t...
all mine are (a) not uploaded because they are crappy little shacks and it would offend my builder dignity, (2) named anchor X planet base so it's clear they aren't at the portal
dense basin
I just never upload my expedition bases. They're not worth anyone's time
nova jay
You’re not supposed to build
As for Expeditions as an event, I think you are partly right. On the other side, I think it is part of the game's design to try to unlock technology that is as difficult as it is prankish and to leave the facility behind.
It's quite a challenge, I can die in the middle of way. (It happened to me) If not, the existing permadeath is enough.
indigo falcon
You’re not supposed to build
you are supposed to build but minimal things that ||act as anchor points|| and that's it
nova jay
Well, I think a base like "AP3" is certainly too spoilerish, and I didn't upload it either.(Maybe. Unless I'm making a mistake or oops)
But it would help players who felt this too difficult.
indigo falcon
part of what makes it a community event is players uploading bases to help others along
bases by pillars, bases for eggs, all that
static willow
Well, I think a base like "AP3" is certainly too spoilerish, and I didn't upload...
The "AP3" base was well over 20k u away from the anchor point
static willow
yeah
indigo falcon
maybe people not considering they don't need to upload the base for it to be visible to others in their instance
marsh haven
all mine are (a) not uploaded because they are crappy little shacks and it would...
if you don't rename them, they automatically display "Anchor 1" etc as the subtext.
indigo falcon
yeah I want to be explicit though, not mislead someone that 'hey maybe this is next to the portal'
static willow
Thinking about setting up a base that says "AP2 - Nip - Free Resources" and then have it be on a vertical cliff where the teleport location is death if you move wrong. Ya know, subtle.
nova jay
The "AP3" base was well over 20k u away from the anchor point
That's what you meant! I laughed.🤣
But sorry, I built the "APS3" base on another star in the same system. (I don't think I uploaded it)
native bloom
That's why I always save and get ready to kill the app when going to an unknown base
static willow
fr
indigo falcon
I'm pretty paranoid about telporting in somewhere strange
got lucky on my few tries though, all ok
static willow
Best to be
indigo falcon
most people are not jerks in the nms community
native bloom
Yeah, the only ones I tried this expedition worked perfectly
nova jay
That planet had a milder environment. I didn't want to die in a storm right after loading.
Safety first👷
marsh haven
so you built it on a planet full of carnivores. noted.
wraith badge
so ... ||how do you make contact ... called it but when I approach it nothing happens|| ?
indigo falcon
so ... ||how do you make contact ... called it but when I approach it nothing ha...
mission pinned? what's tooltip say? get closer maybe
then look for incoming communicator message
nova jay
so you built it on a planet full of carnivores. noted.
...that maybe..... could be!!!😱
wraith badge
yes ... and approach it, which I did ... even bumped in to it, so cannot get much closer and no comms at all
wraith badge
maybe I'll try pulsing away from the station and my freighter
indigo falcon
go away, try options->network->multiplayer off
then re-call and go through it again
wraith badge
always play with MP disabled
and tooltip says .. it answered approach it to make contact
alpine topaz
The golden rule. pressing ESC is meant to pause the game, but I found out on an ice planet, my cold protection was draining even though it was on the ESC menu.
remote thunder
The golden rule. pressing ESC is meant to pause the game, but I found out on a...
only if in a mp instance
unkempt plaza
for me i died once in normal mode with MP off and joins fully disabled while in the ESC menu lol
remote thunder
then you died to a bug
when in singleplayer, pause is actually full pause - even NPC ships are paused mid-air 😄
unkempt plaza
fair
remote thunder
though planet's day/night cycle, storms, etc, all that still occurs
unkempt plaza
i was just surprised bcuz it somehow drained my 3 heat protection shields + the actual hazard prot itself within 5 min of me being in the bathroom 😂
and it wasnt on a extreme planet either lol
remote thunder
i truly believe that's a bug, yeah
unkempt plaza
same
altho it was a while ago and i didnt know how to report bugs back then (didnt even know there was a discord LOL) so i never reported it and i dont even know the exact details anymore
it only happend once tho oddly enough
marsh haven
for me i died once in normal mode with MP off and joins fully disabled while in ...
if youa re doing a mission for the anomoly, "MP" is to some degree enabled, wether or not other players are connected.
unkempt plaza
if youa re doing a mission for the anomoly, "MP" is to some degree enabled, weth...
nah i was on a planet in my home system lol
like not doing a mission etc
i was farming carbon etc and then suddenly had to go to the bathroom rq
and when i came back i was ded
jade trench
I have never done a expedition, I saw this one has perma death...is it truly that hard?
dense basin
The milestones themselves aren't that bad at all. They do send you into harm's way on purpose, but if you're careful it's okay. It's easier if you have a little experience playing on survival difficulty already because that's what things are tuned to.
indigo falcon
counter argument: they can be very frustrating if you'v sunk a bunch of hours into the save. there are a few extremely treacherous spots. even if you are a careful and cautious player. but it's still doable if you .. can laugh off failure a couple times.
I think it's worth trying out, but be prepared for the worst, so if it's not that bad, you are pleasantly surprised 🙂
dense basin
It's true. I did have an extremely close brush with death each time I've done the expedition
(pro tip: if you make creature pellets and go to tame a meanie, make sure you don't leave them on the ship)
indigo falcon
hahahahahaha
there needs to be a thread on the subreddit of horror stories from this when it's all over 😄
indigo falcon
sort of after-adventure logging you mean?
fringe agate
Aye, days adventure, captains log, etc
indigo falcon
it would ok to be a retrospective if we completed it already?
fringe agate
Of course
My thinking is that it's text only, title or descriptor needed. About your gameplay, not irl.
indigo falcon
right right
fringe agate
We did this for Cartographers
indigo falcon
oh, huh!
fringe agate
And emergence
indigo falcon
how to tell if folks would be into it this time?
kind pilot
what is the best way to grind warp cells?
indigo falcon
I would just buy the materials to make them, so: antimatter (= 25 chromatic metal + 25 condensed carbon), antimatter housing (= 30 oxygen + 50 ferrite dust)
the carbon you can mine or refine from oxy, then refine to cond carbon
the rest, buy outright, done
remote thunder
<stellar metal>/activated <stellar metal> also refines to c metal (memory fragments can drop the personal refiner tech, so if you get lucky, there's that)
destroying trees with your ship should also yield carbon stacks fast, once you got some upgrades on those weapons
indigo falcon
there's no milestone for the personal refiner in this expd.
I wish there had been 😡 got it phase 5
remote thunder
hmm? oh, wait, sorry, maybe i got it from a fragment!
ah quite possible
yeah, that was it sorry, mb
indigo falcon
no worries
reposting here so we have it: milestones and rewards (my typing, my mistakes) https://pastebin.com/kq5xepnA
remote thunder
done, edited
i got a txt file with them as well, i was just going from memory - got them mixedup
indigo falcon
yep
I always forget about strafing the planet, never made it into my gameplay, heh
and this time I had made a special note. still forgot to do it
remote thunder
i started writing down some notes
indigo falcon
ah, I have my 'milestone tips' list
needs rewriting now too 😄
if we were truly coordinated as a community we'd do this once all of us in one place 😄 instead 20k players all have their own set of these detailed notes...
remote thunder
ah well sometimes it's just not possible
fringe agate
All 7 people taking notes are in this server tbh
remote thunder
i wrote the milestone list and rewards quite early on, but then got sidetracked
indigo falcon
mine says may 27 but that's the copy I made after I shoved a bunch of other crap into the notes doc. but yep
the nerds are probably all in here
lookin' at y'all
fringe agate
remote thunder
and what about you? one of us, one of us
indigo falcon
em
this one's better
indigo falcon
wanted the one for embarassment, couldn't find 😄
indigo falcon
enjoy!
kind pilot
ive finally made it back to the 5th iteration, how hard is it?
kind pilot
which is that?
indigo falcon
well the first one where you see garbage for the title
kind pilot
alright
coral sail
I just wanted to collect some copper to refill my warp drive to fly to the fourth checkpoint and then bam a spaceship just starts shooting and I am dead within a few shots. Since when can you get attack by spaceships when you arent in one?
remote thunder
I just wanted to collect some copper to refill my warp drive to fly to the fourt...
since the Outlaws update; going inside a building, or digging a hole are easy ways to protect yourself when there's a pirate attacking/bombing run
coral sail
I just noticed that you can keep your fauna data and can recollect the nanits from it. At least I can buy a warp drive update
remote thunder
t1 conflict systems should not spawn any pirate attacks like that
(crafting) memory fragments can also drop hyperdrive mods and stuff
coral sail
since the Outlaws update; going inside a building, or digging a hole are easy wa...
I sadly haven't played the new updates yet, so I didn't know what the chat message meant now I know
timid ledge
question!
just finished everything and i can click the expedition tab and claim my living frigate. im still on the community expedition though, not my normal save. can i switch to my normal save and claim it from the expdition tab? or will the expedition tab not be there and ill lose it all? thanks
smoky meadow
you claim it on other saves at the quicksilver vendor at the anomaly
timid ledge
so if i claimed it on this save id be fucked right?
fringe agate
just finished everything and i can click the expedition tab and claim my living ...
Claim it in the expedition to be able to claim it everywhere else
No
timid ledge
oh
fringe agate
You need to
timid ledge
oh okay
smoky meadow
you can claim it on all your saves, even future ones
fringe agate
😄
wraith parrot
well I hope nobody wanted to use their perma death save when completing the expedition. Someone built a wood floor on your heads so you can't go anywhere nor can you manipulate terrain
native bloom
Just use the report base function to make the base disappear
indigo falcon
(spoiler the reveal please for other folks)
note you do not need access to the base computer to report the base, just check all the way to the right in thee quick menu
kind pilot
(spoiler the reveal please for other folks)
oh sry
indigo falcon
anyways, congrats!!
kind pilot
i just got the leviathan 😄
kind pilot
anyways, congrats!!
ty!
wind sleet
I feel like there are some miracles happening on this expedition: storm crystal randomly drops from regular dihydrogen mining, the first Vykeen building and I get S-class multitool for free...
remote thunder
yeah, glowing crystals can sometimes drop storm crystals, even on planets that don't have any
your pet, depending on its personality it seems (? need to do more testing), can also find stuff that's not available regularly on a planet
ashen turret
you can also get storm crystals spawning from lightning strikes
remote thunder
rarely, but yeah
ashen turret
regardless of whether they otherwise spawn on the planet
remote thunder
and it's a different storm crystal model too, it's actually pretty neat
be fairly quick about collecting it though - they despawn after a bit
wind sleet
yeah, glowing crystals can sometimes drop storm crystals, even on planets that d...
I got only one in 50h on my main normal save and now I get another one during the 1st hour of expedition 🤔
what are the odds
I remember it was smth like 2% on wiki
ashen turret
they haven't ever despawned for me, but they're not generally saved between sessions
remote thunder
they haven't ever despawned for me, but they're not generally saved between sess...
they always despawn for me, because i tend to go photo mode to grab shots of them when they spawn
wind sleet
the only worth I found is creating better warp cell from storm crystal although it needs circuit which is long to grind probably
remote thunder
minotaur+radar array+sentinels disabled, hitting manufacturing facilities would be a much cheaper way
indigo falcon
cheaper way for which, sorry?
remote thunder
learning circuit board bp
ashen turret
you can also get the storm crystals from the floating crystal's resources
remote thunder
circuit? microprocessor?
wind sleet
minotaur+radar array+sentinels disabled, hitting manufacturing facilities would ...
I actually found ancient relics with nav data so I'll definitely give it a shot once I find space station
remote thunder
now i'm confused.
"MF -> warp hypercore bp" , this is what was on my mind
but then, "circuit" - huh?
warp hypercore = antimatter + storm crystal, iirc
indigo falcon
oh! well I just figured you knew what you were doing 😄
remote thunder
me too
indigo falcon
yes that sounds right (components)
remote thunder
"better warp cell" has to be "warp hypercore"
no idea what circuit is @wind sleet referring to 😄
(my mind just jumped on circuit board for some reason)
meager stream
Maybe circuit meant blueprint
wind sleet
no idea what circuit is <@327101362334597121> referring to 😄
black warp cell
which is more efficient
true bronze
I haven't yet bought the economy scanner...anybody know an outlaw system near point 4?
also warp hypercore too hah
indigo falcon
why not near starter system, would that not work for you?
indigo falcon
oh that would too, I'm just at anchor 4 right now
see pinned message 'mini-faq", gives location of one
true bronze
I must have missed that one, did look at pins but I guess not well enough
thanks
reading comprehension ftw
indigo falcon
have marked it with a skull and crossbones for the next reader 🙂
wind sleet
hmm, anyone knows how to spot abandoned refiner? 😄
always recall ship and forget one
it's somewhere nearby...
solemn wave
Anyone else still hate the radar scanning part of expeditions ?
indigo falcon
the location scanner thing?
solemn wave
the location scanner thing?
ya that thing
indigo falcon
it's horrible, I hate it with a passion
remote thunder
hmm, anyone knows how to spot abandoned refiner? 😄
sorry - if its (green) HUD marker is no longer on your visor, it's lost
wind sleet
well, I already got another one, couldn't find it anyways
just farmed pack of animals for milk, I can chill now
I almost died recently though: did regular jetpack jump and got a lot of dmg right into hazardous flora - was 1hp for a while...
I'm not used to permadeath fall dmg yet
livid marsh
runaway mold is most often found on toxic planets, right?
indigo falcon
runaway mold is most often found on toxic planets, right?
can be on any, I don't know where the toxic planets thing comes from
supple radish
Anyone else still hate the radar scanning part of expeditions ?
Yes. I end up walking 1,000u rather than flying, just to save time??? That ain't right
brave ice
runaway mold is most often found on toxic planets, right?
You’ll be looking for a 3-star gek economy with 5-6 planets. The wiki suggests that Fungal Mould needs to be present on the planet. I think it might have a higher chance, but I’m definitely not sure.
indigo falcon
paradise worlds can have them. Ennect (anchor 1, frozen) has them and it's neither t3 nor toxic.
devout stone
Dumb question: is there a way to get my leviathan freighter on my main save?
It says that i have the blueprint for a calf but i have no idea where it is
wraith badge
Anomaly -> Quick Silver vendor
devout stone
Excellent
wraith badge
oh! that is in the build menu for bases
devout stone
I needed to know both, so even better
dusty pecan
I wouldn't bother with the mould refining for nanites on the expedition save
250/500 stack size limits make it a pain in the ass
ashen shore
I put my calf on the bridge of my main save freighter
boreal vessel
So, I was using the Minotaur to help farm some of those alien eggs, when the swarm hit me twice after I got back in to my Minotaur, and it killed me... it happened SO FAST. I thought the Minotaur would help save me, but I guess not!?
indigo falcon
the minotaur does not protect against creature or sentinel damage
nor hazardous flora
novel cave
it better to just build walls around the egg nests cause the swarm dont come inside
clever orbit
ayy, I ended the loop
boreal vessel
I was so close to being done too, I only needed 3 more eggs. :(
novel cave
oof
static willow
Today is the day, I can feel it
static willow
I was so close to being done too, I only needed 3 more eggs. :(
I died on the 10th when the milestone popped up, lol
So I built a farming base at a transmission tower
If you’re on Xbox feel free to use it: “EV’s Easy Eggs”
indigo falcon
bases are cross platform
static willow
Oh, pimp
boreal vessel
If you’re on Xbox feel free to use it: “EV’s Easy Eggs”
That's so awesome, thank you - when I work up the strength to do the expdition again I will keep an eye out.
static willow
I swear they didn’t used to be cross platform
indigo falcon
have been for awhile now 🙂
primal rock
Eggs aren't hard. Build a base at an abandoned building and put walls around the eggs, harvest, wait for the swarm to subside, repeat.
I'm afraid of having to do the derelict freighter in phase 5.
indigo falcon
spoiler for derelict choice: ||you can do the derelict in any system in the galaxy as long as you have the mission pinned before you pulse, you have the portal glyphs...||
primal rock
I have yet to do a derelict freighter in NMS so I'm sure it will be the death of me in the expedition
fair dirge
feeling good. had to take a detour on the liquid sun grind to shut down sentinels on an aggro planet. they were annoying me and i beat all the waves with just a scatter blaster
indigo falcon
try one on a normal save? or just jump in, what the heck
tawny herald
Spoiler for completion: ||if you end the loop and die, does your save file get erased?||
lunar flax
Can I convert pre-packaged stuff into nanites?
indigo falcon
sell it
lunar flax
nice
tawny herald
Be sure not to sell at the trade terminals. Otherwise, you get credits.
lunar flax
Where do I sell it?
indigo falcon
sell at the tech vendors (starship upgrade etc)
lunar flax
Ohh okay
nimble quarry
Can i only get the leviathan on the character i did the expedition with?
dusty pecan
all characters
nimble quarry
How do i claim it on the others or will it automatically just be there
dusty pecan
the quicksilver vendor on the nexus provides the expedition rewards to other charaters
nimble quarry
Thank you 🙏🏽
wind sleet
can i exchange memory imprint?
indigo falcon
no, you can I guess reroll it or sell it
sacred lynx
Does anyone know why blueprints are so expensive for the expedition?
Like a medium refiner is 100 salvaged data!!!
indigo falcon
Does anyone know why blueprints are so expensive for the expedition?
they want you to rely on the memory fragments rather than just buying yourself out of the hole
sacred lynx
@indigo falcon
Oh thanks, I just wanted to get a medium refiner to start an ionized cobalt farm for money
obtuse mirage
When you finish loop 5 and you get ||the frigate|| can you blame that in your normal Play through
flint axle
Like a medium refiner is 100 salvaged data!!!
That doesn't make it any less irritating, though!
indigo falcon
my last milestone
use a chart, look for player bases...
indigo falcon
When you finish loop 5 and you get ||the frigate|| can you blame that in your no...
yes, on any save
errant heath
charts werent helpin but ye will try player bases
obtuse mirage
yes, on any save
How do you
wind sleet
smth's wrong with my launch thrusters - ship can't be recalled but when I go all the way back - 62% fuel there, wut
sturdy creek
that happened to me with the starter ship too
and i just checked and yeah there's a recharger
indigo falcon
that would be it 🙂
sturdy creek
so its operating at the level I left the ship at ?
indigo falcon
it will recharge over time
so you might have been at 40-something oercent and now you're at 63
sturdy creek
yeah, makes sense
wind sleet
damn, I escaped the drones but ig I should've killed them and ofc ship just can't be ready ever to fly back smh
quest says kill the drones, so... now I need to find them first lol
junior shard
it's funny
I also ran then returned
and if you can find the drones, they're just idling on the spot where they lost vision of you lol
wind sleet
well, I'm very glad I have my cheesy two-legged boi from the starter planet who walks through plants and climbs mountains up and down safely like nothing
indigo falcon
strider?
wind sleet
yep
I have bigger and scarier one on my normal save so we kinda know each other already from another iteration
indigo falcon
must be a lot less striders on that planet what with us all adopting one!
wind sleet
lel
junior shard
kek
ashen turret
adopting or abducting ... is there really a difference lol
primal rock
@Lark If you go to the anchor point 3 system, I put a base down on the cactus world and called it crashed freighter.
wind sleet
actually now it wants me to put a base somewhere
mb it will give me now container or smth
game really wanted me to die to those 4 semi-afk drones so now it tries to stall me by making me build a base
floating afk in space and baiting pirates actually got me more units than all I had before lol
indigo falcon
lolol
ashen turret
Pirates like to donate their cargo more often than successfully stealing it
indigo falcon
claimed the frigate for normal mode save, now to go have a closer look at it
wind sleet
"dangerous threat" shot me only once for like 5-10% shield before donating
worldly cargo
So I have very little time to play these days since I have a newborn and have to take care of him but I'm really trying to find enough time to get this exp done, is there anything time gated that I should account for to make sure I'm done before it ends?
ashen turret
it's like, why even bother changing weapons for when the shield's down or up
indigo falcon
So I have very little time to play these days since I have a newborn and have to...
no, you don't have to wait on any particular thing, just knock out the milestones and stay safe
some info pinned in the channel that could be useful
wind sleet
thanks pirates, 1kk milestone is done
indigo falcon
lololol
worldly cargo
some info pinned in the channel that could be useful
Rad, thank you I'll check it out next time I'm on!!
wind sleet
I think pirates will give me now all the necessary upgrades too
already have only 1 free slot left in multi-tool
they even gave me 2nd storm crystal
indigo falcon
ok really loving the sounds the living frigate makes when one gets close, also the baby calf is now placed, looks great in my little caretaker residence at the beach bar
10/10
indigo falcon
they even gave me 2nd storm crystal
sounds like you're about all set to rock the remaining milestones
hazy sonnet
The moment when the smuggle goods you sold are 400 Units away from 500k
indigo falcon
awwwww
indigo falcon
congrats to everyone breaking the loop today!
oh heck forgot to equip the cloak, I was going to actually do that with this one. eh tomorrow
still not visible to other players though right?
primal rock
As soon as I finish it, I will grind out some living sun to donate to polo
errant heath
i dumped a crapton of somnal dust from the last part of the expedition to polo
primal rock
Still finishing phase 3. But for phase 4 all I need to do is reach that anchor point and find the burial site. Then on to phase 5.
Oh and make a memory
This time no dying from falling at the phase 4 anchor point, cross fingers.
indigo falcon
crossed!
ashen turret
stock up on launch fuel or uranium lol
indigo falcon
don't forget that we have the actual planetary coords to anchor 4 (and 5) points right in the pinned messages
you do not have to wander around trying to find the dang thing
(like I did. twice 😕 )
wind sleet
damn, why didn't I get weapons for Mino when there's literally several sentinels flying around me and I took mission to kill 8 of them
indigo falcon
why indeed
wind sleet
pirates actually started to come in 4 and made me use one battery lol
so I decided to land but...
they really want me stay here
also TIL I can start battle out of range with rockets
indigo falcon
ha
ashen shore
If I build a base and die will it still be there?
merry elm
i fell off a hill and died like halfway through the expedition, is there no way at all to get back any progress with the milestones?
desert creek
Lmao was starting phase 4 and died to sentinels, now have to start everything again. Pain
merry elm
now i don't want to do the expedition anymore lmao
desert creek
i fell off a hill and died like halfway through the expedition, is there no way ...
Nope, it resets. It’s a shame the milestones go away. So much work to start all over.
static willow
i fell off a hill and died like halfway through the expedition, is there no way ...
Nope, welcome to our pain.
merry elm
this has gotta be the worst expedition yet
merry elm
*some* of the stuff saves
like what
indigo falcon
for questions about what persists, see pinned messages in here
static willow
👍
indigo falcon
there are things you can do to speed up progress after a reset, use what's in the pinned message and make some plans.
fringe agate
!youdied
unkempt krakenBOT
to view, enable Link Preview 
Bases created by you remain, including freighter base, but no contents in containers, nor any other inventory; if you build bases on each anchor world you can go there from the first space station and save a lot of travel and warp fuel.
The partners in time milestone remains, when you go to Polo the first time after the reset you get this again.
You will automatically get the Iterate/Repeat milestone shortly after spawning in.
Any discoveries you made or animals you scanned stay scanned, so you get secondary minerals automatically, and if you scanned all fauna you can get the nanites again.
indigo falcon
showoff
anyways read the pins folks, always useful stuff in there
also that arm thing looks seriouslt like a huge turkey leg or disgustingly muscle bound, just sayin
static willow
Could be Trogdor…
speaking of, where's the base?
indigo falcon
holy crap I had to look it up and that was embrassing, used to watch regularly
static willow
Since the redmins are here, I guess I should ask about the rank / role bug. 
indigo falcon
ah yeah please
static willow
Burninating all the people!! (Like this expedition)
indigo falcon
hey Gleam, got a minute?
hey @fringe agate ^^
we have a problem with role != level
fringe agate
Yo
static willow
I’m wearing a Capcom T-shirt right now playing NMS and I feel kind of guilty, I don’t have a Hello Games T-shirt
indigo falcon
role: familar. actual level: 13? something like that (hey give us an .xp will ya Extra)
static willow
.xp
indigo falcon
sorry, should have specified "... in the bot-spam channel"
static willow
Sorry boss
indigo falcon
dunno what's off but something is
static willow
I did it know I wasn’t supposed to do it here
fringe agate
Nah, that's ok good to know
indigo falcon
woah magic!
fringe agate
It will keep track of you now
indigo falcon
ty
fringe agate
Ty
ashen shore
ty
wind sleet
those pirates... what's even going on lol
now they take no dmg
static willow
Was it something from the changeover to Utilibot from MEEE6?
fringe agate
Yes
fringe agate
Was it something from the changeover to Utilibot from MEEE6?
Run that xp command again for me
fringe agate
Sweet, thanks
foggy cloak
static willow
glad rover
<@259917018122289152> check it. trogdor ref <:meowSmirk:775485159323598908> spea...
ummm... ummmm....
fringe agate
wraith venture
ummm... ummmm....
yesss? 
glad rover
oop
ashen shore
Is there any way to find my spawn point?
indigo falcon
the exact location at start of save? I doubt it
ashen shore
I had a portable refiner and some save tower there
static willow
latitude and longitude coordinates are on your ship computer 😉
I’ve learned, in this game, if you think you’re at an important location, take a screenshot of coordinates or drop a signal booster / beacon.
indigo falcon
I had a portable refiner and some save tower there
operative word: "had". unless it was a save beacon... they're lost
static willow
portable refiner and safe button are not that valuable though 😉
yeah, I ran from my first settlement battle, that was a mistake that took some work. kek
ashen shore
latitude and longitude coordinates are on your ship computer 😉
That seems useful, where exactly do I see them?
static willow
That seems useful, where exactly do I see them?
Cockpit view, on your lower left
ashen shore
I see, thanks
static willow
Something I thought about before, but would be really cool to see in this expedition, is a buildable for your base that shows number of people visited.
indigo falcon
my count would be: 0. depressing 😄
ashen shore
Just realised I have a manual save from when I was still at my spawn
static willow
I’m not knowledgeable enough to know how that works in the expeditions
indigo falcon
yay! but can you lose all that progress?
static willow
I guess technically you could load that check your coordinates in and reload the auto save and go back there
But that seems like it wouldn’t work just because of the nature of the expedition
indigo falcon
I um. wow sounds risky
ashen shore
But that seems like it wouldn’t work just because of the nature of the expeditio...
How come?
static willow
Well, I just landed on the fourth anchor planet and the game bugged saving and I can’t get back in my ship
Reload auto save is grayed out
fml
Summoned it but I still can’t enter
static willow
How come?
You can’t avoid permadeath with a manual save, so I’m not sure what mechanism they use to sync that, or if the manual is wiped only on death.
Either way, that’s a lot of work for a refiner and a save button 😉
ashen shore
Not for the refiner, I just really liked the spot
indigo falcon
how far back is the manual save?
static willow
So, running out of ion batteries, with the extreme night temperatures, and unable to get back in my ship because of the bug, I decided to power down.
Worked
thankfully I’m back in the anomaly at the previous autosave, and the expedition is not lost.
I tried to cap it, will check later.
indigo falcon
this game sometimes
wind sleet
does anyone know how to spot downed freighter?
I've been trying for an hour to follow distress signals
nothing
calm anchor
Opened 6 memories, got 4 geology cannons
I think the game is telling me something
Also holy crap, x class modules in the expedition are insane
wind sleet
geology just oneshoted sentinels lol
dense basin
Brave to use that thing in perma lol
calm anchor
My boltcaster currently has a total reload time of -83%
dense basin
My X modules seem to have about a 60-ish% chance of being better than S class. I have a few that are mind blowingly good
static willow
I've been trying for an hour to follow distress signals
Distress maps are the correct one, try a different system if you don’t get a freighter after a couple
So…
I bought some frigates and I’m doing an expedition in the expedition, kek
willow geyser
I bought some frigates and I’m doing an expedition in the expedition, kek
expedition²
wind sleet
Distress maps are the correct one, try a different system if you don’t get a fre...
I tried like 3 systems lol
indigo falcon
there are 5 types of distress signals, I think the way to lock it in is to get 5 maps, open one, if it's the wrong type, don't go there, open the next, if it says dup, try it again until it eventually does not say that, repeat until last one or until right crash found (someone correct me if this isn't how to get the type of location one wants)
woeful niche
So I clearly don't understand how to get through this expedition. I have played for an hour already, spending approximately half that time reapplying the memories received as rewards. Doing this over and over really isn't any fun. What am I doing wrong?
indigo falcon
So I clearly don't understand how to get through this expedition. I have played ...
look at the pins, especially 'persistence after death', this may help
woeful niche
Also, each time I have died on the next iteration my starship is farther away. This last time I died before I could even run to it.
woeful niche
look at the pins, especially 'persistence after death', this may help
Read the pins multiple times. I never live long enough to build anything. Twice a strider was sitting right out side my ship after I got to it. Died with in seconds after exiting my ship each time
I unerstand RNG, and that I may just be unlucky. But this rteally is no fun.
indigo falcon
if you are in single player mode (options->network->multiplayer disabled) you can at least use photo mode to pause the game and look round
woeful niche
if you are in single player mode (options->network->multiplayer disabled) you ca...
Ok. That may help.
indigo falcon
for example right after you spawn in: where might there be a cave en route? is there a predator around you?
woeful niche
for example right after you spawn in: where might there be a cave en route? is t...
LOL. So I thought once. Ran to it, fell in, dead. Again, maybe unlucky maybe I am just no good at this.
wind sleet
well, I was at 1 hp couple of times too but it was all just stupid stuff that nearly oneshot me
indigo falcon
ran to which? cave?
woeful niche
Yes, a cave
wind sleet
strider is your safe way down
and up as well
mino is good at jumping too
although I forgot where I built my mino geobay RIP gold
indigo falcon
we're just talking getting to and repairing the ship I guess at this point?
so not even minotaur
dense basin
although I forgot where I built my mino geobay RIP gold
pro tip for future minotaur bay building - just pick it back up as soon as it's built. You can continue to summon the mino anywhere on that planet even without the bay.
wind sleet
hmm ye you're right
woeful niche
Yep. I could get to it except for the last time. But getting the stuff to repair it has not happened yet
indigo falcon
grab stuff on the way as you head towards it, if you can
you spawn in with ion batteries and a couple life gels
wind sleet
actually at first I found low jetpack tank and high fall dmg quite unusual and I was very limited in movement due to hazardous factors as well
woeful niche
I think that is why I died the last time. Slowing down to get di-hy
indigo falcon
this should be enough for you to grab some dihy and ferrite dust and carbon... you'll stillneed to refine some of that maybe
woeful niche
Maybe I'll figure it out, maybe I won't, but it is not going to be any fun.
calm anchor
I really want them to update it so if you have the frigate you don't have the jacked research costs any more
wind sleet
there are some anti-hazard plants as well
and animals give you milk and memories which are good for selling at start
I actually farmed a whole pack of animals
smoky meadow
you can stop at the station and buy a lot of gel and batteries
wind sleet
after start? ye sure
indigo falcon
nari, we're just talking about getting to ship and getting it repaired safely (and gettig some starting units after that)
woeful niche
I read all that in the pins. My problem is striders, lack of oxygen/gel, etc.
indigo falcon
once you reach it you get gels and batteries as a reward, so that's ok for the moment
wind sleet
I actually don't know how I found my ship, I was looking all sides and saw nothing, kept walking and minutes later I randomly had a look and saw it not far from me lol
dusty pecan
good idea to open any memory shards you get got while going to ship too
I got both advanced mining beam and the +50% resources from the "die" milestone rewards
wind sleet
strider only almost got me during storm cause of low visibility
and I was doing some stuff near my ship
dusty pecan
was nice to not need to bother with refiner for the pure ferite
dense basin
dihydrogen+carbon = gel so if you're worried about life support, focus on making on or two of those. If you happen to be near a cave, it's worth nipping in to mine a little cobalt so you can make a couple extra batteries. It just gives you a bit of extra breathing space if things take longer.
smoky meadow
i usually just grab sodium and oxygen on my way to stuff, basically free if its on the way to something im getting anyways
dense basin
was nice to not need to bother with refiner for the pure ferite
My third time through this expedition, and on iteration 3. I gave up waiting for the advanced mining laser and just bought the blueprint at its exorbitant price on the anomaly
dusty pecan
My third time through this expedition, and on iteration 3. I gave up waiting for...
oof that is some bad luck
woeful niche
Thanks for the help all. I'll keep trying. But the farther you go on the exped, the worse dying must be. So just more "wasted" time. Not much to look forward to.
dense basin
oof that is some bad luck
I got killer luck in other places, so it's okay
dusty pecan
might have been worth doing bit of reload cheese at that point to get it
static willow
Thanks for the help all. I'll keep trying. But the farther you go on the exped, ...
We all feel this pain
calm anchor
I can’t get “recursion “to trigger this run no matter how much I give Polo
Because it's the community milestone
It's literally not done yet because it requires thousands of mission handins
woeful niche
We all feel this pain
I know, but those of us who were never any good at Normal mode feel it way more.
indigo falcon
you contribute only a little, like community missions at the nexus to unlock the next quicksilver item. same deal
static willow
you contribute only a little, like community missions at the nexus to unlock the...
So each loop you just have to wait it out for the module upgrades? I guess I just got lucky on the timing with the previous ones
calm anchor
Yeah, especially because there's daily contribution caps
indigo falcon
we're already in A class everything
dusty pecan
wasn't it data mined to be like 2mil turn in per stage with max 20 per person per day? lmao
dense basin
I know, but those of us who were never any good at Normal mode feel it way more.
It does get easier with time, but you might consider a lower stakes bit of practice in a survival save just to get used to it. That's what made it easier for me
woeful niche
It does get easier with time, but you might consider a lower stakes bit of pract...
I will press on.
indigo falcon
if it gets too frustrating, take a break
chill out with people here or do other things
you've got almost 5 weeks to complete this and there's no need to do it when you're feeling like crap about it
static willow
Watch those balls to try to push you off the cliff when you milk them!
half moon
I don't think anyone was asking for a permadeath expedition
dense basin
I will press on.
The benefit (for me) of expeditions is that I always learn something new about ways I can play. I got a lot more usage out of the minotaur than I ever do in any of my regular saves. I used it repeatedly to jump out of dangerous situations. I learned that some tech I usually ignore (the personal shield, in particular) is actually really amazing.
indigo falcon
mm a bunch of people did (ask for an expedition in a harder mode)... but as an option I think, so players could set their difficulty. anyways, here we are, let's see how we can help each other
indigo falcon
these X modules are really out of hand 😄
dense basin
I got one of those wild bois yesterday
calm anchor
Fr fr
half moon
And it doesn't seem they test played it
calm anchor
I mean I like it
Makes them actually useful
Making them consistently have high stats is fun
dense basin
I suspect they playtested, but probably not from the perspective of someone who doesn't really know much about playing, or only plays creative.
If your regular testers know the game inside and out, you'll get a different perspective
half moon
I don't get why they think it was cool to start us in a permadeath run on a planet with very aggressive monsters that can 1 tap ya
And cliffs at that
calm anchor
Ngl tho I'm so exhausted just thinking of how much salvaged data I'd need for a basic base, I'm heavily tempted to save edit the recipe unlocks
static willow
The benefit (for me) of expeditions is that I always learn something new about w...
I really feel this, I’ve never been grateful for the carbon on the stations before. Haha
half moon
Ikr
dense basin
That's how I died the first time. But then I remembered to look for the red paw of doom. And all of those baddies can easily be killed with your mining laser.
indigo falcon
huh I never remembered to search the planters for any... good point 😄
dense basin
I really feel this, I’ve never been grateful for the carbon on the stations befo...
lol too true. But don't forget oxygen can be refined into carbon
indigo falcon
yep I did a lot of 'buy oxy, refine it in the peace and quiet of my base'
dense basin
I refined it on my freighter
indigo falcon
but one needs to get somewhere first and have some units
half moon
That's how I died the first time. But then I remembered to look for the red paw ...
The issue is one of them seems to have an audio issue, it doesn't make noise at all so they sneak up on ya and bam dead
dense basin
They all have the red paw when they're tracking you though
static willow
It’s the little things
calm anchor
Unironically thinking about it, I think doing the nautilus quest line will be better for me since my base computer is technically underwater and you get some prefab recipes
dense basin
The issue is one of them seems to have an audio issue, it doesn't make noise at ...
But to be honest, one of the best early investments you can make on that planet is turning some carbon into creature pellets
I bind the throw button so when I see the paw, I can just hit it, and boom, no more problem
half moon
That doesn't always work
half moon
Seen it happen
indigo falcon
so a cave is nice because (watch for hazardous flora though)
dense basin
I haven't, but I'll take your word for it. But as I say, they can all be murderated. Even if you only get a half second of hits in, that will stun them enough to get further away so you can finish the job
dense basin
caves are great all the way around
calm anchor
cobalt crashing with the survival inventory
indigo falcon
and safe from the predators
calm anchor
I pity you
dense basin
Nah, just cobalt to sell to pilots for some early $$
I prefer to sell animal meat since it's worth more
But caves themselves are a wonderful resource. Hazardous flora give me sodium and oxygen, flowers refine into sodium, other flora are carbon, there's ferrite dust and cobalt for batteries, and my hazard protection recharges. They're just plain excellent at the start of a new game.
Ah, yes, and safe from predators
As apergos said
indigo falcon
you might not hav one near you, in which case keep your eyes peeled for the red paw, prioritize getting to ship, getting mats to fix terrain manipulator on the way (so you can dig to hide out from storm), and then do the 'scout close to ship watching for paws' to get the rest of what you need, set up refiner, hop back in ship, etc
smoky meadow
i got ambushed one time hanging out at the entrance of a cave while refining, almost died
indigo falcon
owie!
dense basin
Yikes! Perhaps don't stand in the entrance x_x
indigo falcon
ayup
smoky meadow
yes now i know
dense basin
Well, almost is the key word
static willow
good luck and safe travels everybody
Cheers! Thx for all the tips
i’ve seen several people mention that you can choose which system to be in for the derelict freighter run, what are the implications of this? Does it matter that much?
indigo falcon
you can find (dang it I didn't leave yet. but right after this!)
ones that have only jellies for example
much easier to run if you're worrries about drones or infestations
wind sleet
I just got 414k pirate on the radar lol
it was really a tanky one
indigo falcon
and now, gone. more tomorrow!
wind sleet
bye, thx for being here!
static willow
👋
wind sleet
they just don't care lol
static willow
Lucky
obtuse mirage
they just don't care lol
If I saw a small thing flying away I would just leave them alone
static willow
Holy shit I pissed off the Sentinels. 10 interceptors chasing me
dusty pecan
accidentaly hit the station?
static willow
I killed a bunch on the planet and then invaded the interceptors by going into the anomaly. When I came out of the anomaly it went four, seven, ten…
*evaded
topaz creek
I did not think I would love the xpedition but I am ok now, and watching the loop progression slowly going up to get the optionals 🙂 Also watching those who do speed runs 🙂 interesting, I I wonder is it worth it to try to get a living ship in it?
wind sleet
those milestones definitely feel more interesting than quests in normal mode
wind sleet
https://i.imgur.com/pgtsqQD.png
where did you actually get that? I remember I saw some floating jellies in freighter mb it's special way of mining them
I did 2 derelicts so far in normal, never seen dust and there's no wiki page for that
although, it's ok if I can still get it naturally just by checking everything around
static willow
although, it's ok if I can still get it naturally just by checking everything ar...
Dust is part of the expedition ||It is found only on the derelicts, and advances the community milestones||
finite wind
Can you build bases in this expedition mode? The UI has so much new to it I find myself not sure how to do some things.
If so could anyone point me in how to start on ps5? 👉👈 haven't played heavily in a long time.
Nvm lol figured it out sorry!
wind sleet
Can you build bases in this expedition mode? The UI has so much new to it I find...
the amount of others' bases I can see on the screen is ridicilous
it's even one of the mielestones
finite wind
Spoilers bro
Also I literally said I figured it out, and that I was new to this since they've added so much
umbral forum
20 more contributions...
calm anchor
You do realize that you can only contribute 20 per day, right?
Also god please HG LET ME GET BASE RESEARCH FOR A REASONABLE PRICE
ashen shore
reasonable price?
calm anchor
100 salvaged data for the medium refiner is not reasonable
ashen shore
oh you mean the salvaged data
Well, i guess you better get used to it for that permadeath achievement
(you only get survival if you do it using this expd save, though)
calm anchor
Ngl I am very much considering using a save editor to get what I need
ashen shore
(you only get survival if you do it using this expd save, though)
thats cos its not real permadeath per-say
its survival with permdeath aspects
ashen shore
thats cos its not real permadeath per-say
i can confirm with 0 uncertainty, at least
well, at least I have my survival achievement
ashen shore
i can confirm with 0 uncertainty, at least
in later milestones (spoiler) ||you can break the loop which is what keeps making you restart, breaking the loop stops the permadeath thing||
dense basin
Well, i guess you better get used to it for that permadeath achievement
luckily those prices are only for this expedition and they'll go away when the save converts to a regular survival save
ashen shore
oh wow what?
dense basin
those are not normal prices for survival/perma
calm anchor
I am already done with the expedition, why do I need to wait a month for the prices to revert
ashen shore
Oh thank God
calm anchor
And why for the base pieces?
dense basin
HG is mysterious
ashen shore
testing the waters maybe
i certainly hope they don't try to implement these prices in normal permadeath
if they are, i'm gonna be busy the next few days
ashen shore
if you do, i hope you can make a base for the greater convenience of the player base
calm anchor
Sadly the base I'm looking at building is in a remote system I found for indium farming
dense basin
if you do, i hope you can make a base for the greater convenience of the player ...
There are some bases out there - one on each planet that I saw called freebies (or some such) that have rows of plants and carbon and green boxes for looting.
ashen shore
i made one for peaceful farming of research materials!
static willow
Two questions: What's the daily individual contribution limit?
ashen shore
no weather hazard, no aggressive creatures, many fauna generation!
static willow
And do permadeath achievements trigger in the expedition / can I shoot for reaching the center of the galaxy one in this endgame?
ashen shore
On a Sentinel pillar to turn them off!
ashen shore
And do permadeath achievements trigger in the expedition / can I shoot for reach...
nah, my dude
dense basin
Two questions: What's the daily individual contribution limit?
20
ashen shore
You get survival achievement only
static willow
That's too bad
dense basin
Yeah. :/ Someone checked it for science yesterday
static willow
Yeah, expedition is a little easier than actual permadeath
ashen shore
I should change my title to Research Entity
finite wind
Does anyone
Sorry typo. Know how to fix the bug with crashed freighters and getting the log?
I found the orb thing, I just can't interact with it. Its not giving me the option to do so
Trying to finish fallen giants :/
fringe agate
Multiplayer on?
finite wind
It says enabled ill try turning it off? That can bug it?
fringe agate
Yeah, turn it off, save and reload
fringe agate
Scream
finite wind
Its the orb thing like with crashed ships right?
Seriously though am I just locked out of finishing this expedition now?
dense basin
Try restarting the whole game. Sometimes you need to restart your PC. And failing that, do look for another freighter.
finite wind
Oof. Alright friends thanks
dense basin
Not all dudes in here, but good luck 😄
finite wind
My bad
Fixed that
Well guess it's time for a new crashed freighter. Thanks again for the help I definitely would have spent the night trying other fixes
dense basin
If you're doing it on one of the anchor planets, I'd try another system
anchor systems are weird that way
finite wind
Yeah that makes sense. I don't think I am but 💁♀️ obvs it's bugged somehow. Im gonna warp along the next path for the expedition stuff and just try and find one (and leave multi off lol)
I know I said thank you but everyone here has been consistently very nice and helpful. Its really appreciated. I'm excited to get back into this game and I get overwhelmed easily so, yeah. Really does mean a lot friends. 💜
dense basin
This is one of the friendliest and most helpful game discords I've ever been in
finite wind
Any tips of farming navigation data? I need more of those for planetary charts to find said crashed frig right?
Thats really good to hear :3
I've been meaning to he more active on here/try and make new friends anyway so. Alrrady having a good vibe about it here and then hearing that feels good
dense basin
You can spend 15 nanites to get a random chart, but the easiest way to get nav data is to go click on the glowing cubes in space stations. I believe there are always three but they aren't always easy to spot. Some have nav data, some have nanites.
dense basin
Thanks, I'm old 
finite wind
Sane lol
timid jacinth
I am still quite new to No Man’s Sky. But how do I enter an Expedition?
I just saw that Leviathan one and I super want to “tame” the leviathan
fringe agate
I am still quite new to No Man’s Sky. But how do I enter an Expedition?
Start a new save and choose that mode.
timid jacinth
Oh. So I won’t be able to add the Leviathan Friegier to my current save file?
fringe agate
The major rewards in Expeditions are cross save
dense basin
You will, but you have to complete the expedition first
fringe agate
You will be able to claim in all of your saves, including any future expeditions
finite wind
Does the save stay a permadeath game after you finish all of the expedition?
finite wind
Oh neat
unkempt krakenBOT
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finite wind
I like my ship lol
primal rock
I died twice at anchor point 4. Screw it. I'm done with the expedition.
dense basin
Believe one of our scientists determined that completing iteration 5 removes the loop and it becomes survival instead of perma at that point - but the terrible price tags remain
calm anchor
Much to our chagrin
finite wind
I died once when I started and I'm on my second life at iteration 2 near the end. Hoping I don't 😬
dense basin
The prices go away at the end of the expedition, never fear
calm anchor
Why did they even change the base building costs
timid jacinth
The major rewards in Expeditions are cross save
Oooooh okay. Thanks for the help
finite wind
Oh I didn't even realize the prices were higher. I mean like I said earlier I've been afk for a while but
Good to know still
dense basin
Why did they even change the base building costs
It was to force us to rely on our sketchy "memories"
calm anchor
P sure they just were like "yo, multiply all research from the anomaly by 10"
dense basin
rather than doing our usual build-the-best-build things
summer oyster
Why did they even change the base building costs
Because that's how the mechanics go in the expedition, just upgrading from memory fragments.
calm anchor
I said BASE
finite wind
Hm
calm anchor
AS IN BUILDING YA HOUSE
finite wind
Lmao
dense basin
I thought you meant base as in foundational
mb
I got nothing there, but it is def a piss off that I can't make a teleporter
calm anchor
I can't make an AI mine because all the base pieces require like 500 salvaged data
ashen turret
but other than the one milestone and exocraft bays you don't need functional bases
dense basin
I actually think the teleporter might be why, since they let you keep bases between iterations
calm anchor
Yeah but space stations have teleporters anyways
dense basin
sure, but you can't teleport from base to base to base that way
To a base, sure. But not between bases
finite wind
Yeah it just hit me i can farm for nav data teleporting to old space stations to move to iteration 3 lol
dense basin
I wish I had one for my freighter
calm anchor
Boutta just say screw it and get just the electrical things
ashen turret
just use the anomaly lol
dense basin
I might actually suck it up and get 20 tech and buy it anyway
calm anchor
And build my base out of non-prefab rooms
Even though I really love the convenience of prefabs
dense basin
If only it didn't have survival levels of tech acquisition
ashen turret
prefabs are good for building power stations for bases, much less wiring to mess around with
finite wind
Whats the best way to farm nanites? Some things want like, tens of thousands of them. Seems hard to do that getting like 100 a pop from those wall mounts
ashen turret
also - people forget you can change materials and colors
calm anchor
Dedicated sentinel farming
calm anchor
Selling the sentinel upgrades is the main source
static willow
I might actually suck it up and get 20 tech and buy it anyway
There's a saved base with 4 tech purchasable each time I used. Let me see if I can figure out what system, I think Anchor 3
ashen turret
on the expedition that's a hell of a lot better use of inventory space than runaway mould
static willow
Just build freighter storage units straight away 
dense basin
I did!
ashen turret
I didn't even USE my freighter at all
static willow
I only built 3 before completion
dense basin
I'll need to go do a few more contraband runs if I want to start buying salvaged tech
Yeah, I build 4 or 5 but I only ever use 2
static willow
Catch a Nip Farm and then use the units to farm tech at the Outlaw stations
dense basin
You assume I have hazmat gloves
ashen turret
I bought the hazmat gauntlet and personal refiner blueprints for the expedition
static willow
You can just cheese it up with other people's bases
static willow
I got a personal refiner through RNG
dense basin
me too
static willow
even nipnip in bases requires hazmat gloves
Use the 'Harvest all Plants' panel 😉
dense basin
it wasn't in a biodome
static willow
Oh, that's lame then
dense basin
there were stacks of boxes to loot, so it was fine
and I did find a pirate system on my second or third jump so I had lots of cash already
static willow
First Anchor system has two bases with Nip in biodomes ("Tek's Nip" or something like that, and "Harvest Sell Contraband", and another with every growable plus a bunch of other stuff: "MegaCorp Free Resources"
Shaves an hour or two of monotonous grinding, but some people want to do it themselves.
dense basin
It was only a few trips back and forth to have a nice tidy pile of units, and buying those suspicious packages for units gave me X upgrades to sell for nanites too.
No complaints
finite wind
Second frighter worked! Once again I appreciate you all very much
I love that this game is like, low key sci fi horror
Or the vibe of sci fi horror just being there a smidge
10/10
dense basin
You would think that a base called "sentinel pillar base" would be near a sentinel pillar, wouldn't you? But you would be wrong.
finite wind
Rofl i absolutely would think that but I guess that makes two of us
Omg I tried to help a Korvax from a pirate and sentinels almost killed me for a small misunderstanding 🥺
....involving a mistakenly destroyed Korvax ship but come on
Lol
dense basin
sentinels just can't be reasoned with
shy narwhal
You would think that a base called "sentinel pillar base" would be near a sentin...
Mine is called "sentinel pillar anchor 2"
And it really is what it says
dense basin
I'm in some random system
zinc forge
Why does it take like 4,000 warps to get from AP2 to AP3. I know it says “A significant journey may be required to reach the anchor world”, but this just seems excessive
ashen turret
I mean any system not on an anchor / rendezvous point is basically a random system for an expedition ...
dense basin
I mean any system not on an anchor / rendezvous point is basically a random syst...
Yep!
On the whole I prefer to do my milestones in non-anchor systems. I find I encounter fewer bugs that way. Might be coincidence, but I'm not messing with my pattern.
ashen turret
well, it's more multiplayer being on that's the issue lol
shy narwhal
Why does it take like 4,000 warps to get from AP2 to AP3. I know it says “A sig...
Save for an A or S class hyperdrive upgrade
dense basin
That's the thing about anchor worlds, though. Even if multiplayer is turned off, it will behave as though it's turned on. You'll still get the multiplayer messages, and the game won't pause.
So, thanks but no thanks
ashen turret
what do you mean 6k warps... it's only 1 or 2 warps lol
zinc forge
Save for an A or S class hyperdrive upgrade
Fair, but the prices are all jacked up, and I have less than 0 nanites
dense basin
I mean, if you have 0 hyperdrive upgrades
zinc forge
what do you mean 6k warps... it's only 1 or 2 warps lol
Uh, no
I can show proof that it is in fact, 90,000 warps from 2 to 3
ashen turret
I ended up getting 4 hyperdrive upgrades
wheat kiln
I can show proof that it is in fact, 90,000 warps from 2 to 3
It really did feel like alotta jumps
zinc forge
I ended up getting 4 hyperdrive upgrades
The prices for a hyperdrive that’s actually good is like 5,000 nanites because yes. Usually they’re like 750-1,000 nanites. I don’t know what compelled the devs to raise the prices to space, but that’s another reason why I hate permadeath
dense basin
That's not normal permadeath pricing
shy narwhal
The prices for a hyperdrive that’s actually good is like 5,000 nanites because y...
Each memory upgrade is worth 480 nanites
wheat kiln
expedition inflation crazy 
dense basin
Yep
zinc forge
That's not normal permadeath pricing
I probably estimated wrong, but I remember that they were sky high
zinc forge
Each memory upgrade is worth 480 nanites
wait you can buy the memory node thingys?
dense basin
You get them every time you do a turn in to polo
But you can also sell those prepackaged things for 480
And you can buy suspicious packages for units on pirate stations - the weapons ones almost always give you x modules, which you can use or sell for nanites
wheat kiln
I coulda just talked to animals for free nanites?
dense basin
Ye
shy narwhal
I coulda just talked to animals for free nanites?
Pretty much
dense basin
Or shot up some copper
ashen turret
my hyperdrive range was around 490 ... finished the expedition when everything was still C
shy narwhal
Or shot up some copper
The mineral that is
dense basin
Ye, I did it on day 1/2
zinc forge
Also I like how they gave you a freighter for free, but it doesn’t even have a hyperdrive
zinc forge
I know
shy narwhal
In use it for extra inventor
dense basin
But I still traded in for a prettier one
ashen turret
hell you don't need the freighter, even
zinc forge
I got one that looks almost identical to the one in my main save
dense basin
I used my freighter as a safe space to refine things and sent my leviathan out to get me more money
In my first run, I sent the default frigate out
wheat kiln
But I still traded in for a prettier one
Did that one have a working hyperdrive?
dense basin
Yep
When I feel less lazy, I will scrap a few ships for their hyperdrive upgrades, and problem solved
zinc forge
Auto hyperdrive re-gen when?
ashen turret
the milestone for getting units was laughably easy, just selling off the scrap from the twitch drop ships
zinc forge
the milestone for getting units was laughably easy, just selling off the scrap f...
I did it at the same time as the pirating one
You get many money from selling pirated stuff
dense basin
Didn't even need to do that, just shot up some freighters in a pirate system for their contraband and sold it in the system next door
zinc forge
So if I die, do the milestones completion still count? Like say o completed iteration/phase one, then died. Would I have to redo iteration/phase one?
ashen turret
funnily enough the smuggling thing ended up being the last thing I had to do on the expedition
dense basin
This is the expedition where I learned how good the money actually is from smuggling
wheat kiln
Also where I learned eggs are dangerous. Never bothered them before
dense basin
They do be spicy
static willow
Yeah, monstrosities are no joke
dense basin
scatter blaster does make a wee mess of them BUT it has this little "requires reload" problem
static willow
Just gathered the 20 data for the teleporter, using the Minotaur, wasn’t too bad
zinc forge
I just make a little Catcher for the core, grab it, then get the fuck outta there
minor breach
I have 6 left and they are all the scary ones: eggs, sentinels, more sentinels and just annoying storm Crystal the last 2 are the final 2 quests in the expedition
minor breach
I just make a little Catcher for the core, grab it, then get the fuck outta ther...
Smart
minor breach
Fair enough
zinc forge
Also I plan to use the little map to find a tower, then shut them down
minor breach
Sadly I didn’t get Minotaur AI so I can’t just get something to fight it for me like I usually do
zinc forge
Sadly I didn’t get Minotaur AI so I can’t just get something to fight it for me ...
Can’t you buy it?
minor breach
Oh true
dense basin
You can, but it's hella expensive
gilded tiger
Just gathered the 20 data for the teleporter, using the Minotaur, wasn’t too bad
You have to get out of minotaur to locate data though right?
wheat kiln
Sadly I didn’t get Minotaur AI so I can’t just get something to fight it for me ...
Oh that was luck? I thought they just gave it to us.
dense basin
Minotaur is the only one whose scanner works like ours
minor breach
Oh that was luck? I thought they just gave it to us.
Got it first time not second
zinc forge
Oh that was luck? I thought they just gave it to us.
They give the mecha itself in the base mission
And I think they also give the random chance memory thingamabob
dense basin
Minotaur you get by default - modules for it are random
I bought the radar array for it
zinc forge
Yes
static willow
You have to get out of minotaur to locate data though right?
Yeah, you just pop out tag one and then go to it, rinse, lather, repeat
zinc forge
Can the Minitaur locate towers?
dense basin
It can find anything a chart can find, except settlements
zinc forge
So sentinal towers?
dense basin
No - those aren't a chart
dense basin
They're a map
zinc forge
They do have a chart
dense wedge
Question, after completing the expedition, is permanent death still active?
dense basin
Not spitting hairs, that's actually the difference
dense basin
Question, after completing the expedition, is permanent death still active?
our scientists say no
gilded tiger
You can't get sentinel chart from the guy at the space station. It's a different kind
dense basin
Question, after completing the expedition, is permanent death still active?
I'll go test it.
dense basin
You can't get sentinel chart from the guy at the space station. It's a different...
They were asking about minotaur
Sentinel map comes from killing a walker, from the pugneum dreams milestone, or from pirate loot boxes
dense wedge
I'll go test it.
Thanks for the sacrifice haha I don't wan't to risk it
dense basin
No worries!
dense basin
I'll let you know in 30s
static willow
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quick harbor
Was nearing the end of my expedition and I just died to a defense turret on a derelict. I'm done, not playing NMS until the next expedition. Anchor points don't even save your progress.
static willow
Dying to know
dense basin
No worries
No reset
Not only that, but you don't lose your inventory, unlike survival
static willow
Was nearing the end of my expedition and I just died to a defense turret on a de...
Sorry to hear that, my worst was dying in iteration four, and then again on three
8 looper here 😉
quick harbor
Are the rewards worth all this trouble?
dense wedge
Not only that, but you don't lose your inventory, unlike survival
Thanks!!!
static willow
The reward is the journey
dense basin
Still spawn under that jerk's base though
dense wedge
Are the rewards worth all this trouble?
Organic freighter S-class
static willow
i’m going to go find a starter location and hand out hermetic seals 😉
dense basin
don't do it - they need to die to get the milestone
static willow
Somehow I managed to do this run without getting the starship teleport module, and that is sucking
dense basin
the end doesn't count
static willow
don't do it - they need to die to get the milestone
dense basin
this is one of those moments I regret the lack of gifs
quick harbor
Anyone want to help me repair my ship