nms-fauna

[heavy mortar]

I claimed them permanently before starting my reroll adventure

Strider and skeleton also fixed

[covert remnant]

Well i have the "alternative" worm and its still AAA
Maybe its just 0x1 and 0x2 and they both happen to turn into AAA

[heavy mortar]

OH ALSO twitch pet rewards are also fixed

I have some of those lol

[covert remnant]

Now thats weird

[patent sonnet]

That super makes sense as all of them are procedural

[heavy mortar]

Is it if they always need to look the same? Assuming class seed is also look seed

That was in response to @covert remnant

[patent sonnet]

Maybe, but speciesseed doesn't even determine looks mostly, maybe it determines other seeds that determines looks upon "creation" idk

[heavy mortar]

But horror, grub, and quad are not procedural unless they secretly are

[patent sonnet]

Horror and quad ain't, isn't grub just a tiny Arthropod?

[covert remnant]

Well im pretty sure class seed is different from looks seed
Otherwise two identically looking genuses would have same class

[heavy mortar]

Grub is brood mother without carapace

[patent sonnet]

but again, it most likely didn't matter whatsoever if they left the speciesseed random for those non-procedural creatures, as it being random or not was arbitrary before 6.30, it being random or not didn't affect anything

[heavy mortar]

And tiny

[jagged plaza]

Wait are you saying i can get a SSS child of helios? I love jellyfish!

[heavy mortar]

I don't remember what expedition grub is from

And I didn't make that name up; it's called a grub in game

[patent sonnet]

Ohhh it aparrently is smth different that's weird (it's called BUGFIEND)

[patent sonnet]

14

[heavy mortar]

I think it was from the helldivers expedition

[covert remnant]

With A LOT of patience and luck

[jagged plaza]

I'll do it. To get that SSS Child of helios i'll do it

[heavy mortar]

If you have any other unclaimed exp. pets, do them at the same time

As long as they're not fixed

If you click fast enough when you claim them, they'll all be the same class lol

[jagged plaza]

Ehh but i don't have that many spare nanites

[heavy mortar]

I had 5 expedition pets at SSA using this glitch

[jagged plaza]

Don't have enough slots

[covert remnant]

I dont think we should call it glitch tho

[heavy mortar]

Alright just hit the 0.33% multiple times. Good luck lol

I'm not doing that grind multiple times

9 hours for SSS mecha mouse from someone else here

[patent sonnet]

It's definitely not intended

similar to being able to roll the Atlas Scepter, which was fixed

honestly, it feels like they'll probably add some super hard way to upgrade a companion's stats class

[jagged plaza]

Nvm i'm good

I got the slots

[patent sonnet]

I foresee a bunch of complaints about future expedition companions being like ACB or something

[heavy mortar]

I hope so. I was a do it all myself player (never use existing glyphs) until this update. It broke me

For reference, the next lowest chance in the game is 1% for S class ships and stuff in some systems, which is still multiple times more than 0.33

[jagged plaza]

Slightly confused, do i try the sandworm egg?

[patent sonnet]

possibly: they could make the class stuff reroll between parent and child via companion egg, maybe make an extra slot in the egg sequencer for the choice to reroll the class of the child

[heavy mortar]

I guess it's technically 15% three times but have fun winning in the anomaly where everyone just save edits to SSS

[jagged plaza]

None of these four compaions have fixed classes, right?

[patent sonnet]

but that'd take like 328765w72 years to get S everything

[heavy mortar]

Should be from multiple generations

[covert remnant]

Worm does

Actually all except jellyfish do

[jagged plaza]

What

Wait so am i only rerolling jellyfish here

[covert remnant]

Here

[covert remnant]

Yes

[jagged plaza]

Ahhhh

I see

[heavy mortar]

@patent sonnet my idea/suggestion: class AND level should influence offspring, in addition to material inputs at the gene sequencer. Make it so high level pets have a higher chance of having off spring with better classes (to encourage leveling everyone and not just the final offspring).

[jagged plaza]

Reckon if i get a SSS helios i'd be able to trade an egg of it for a starborn phoenix trade?

[heavy mortar]

Probably

[covert remnant]

That would be a very valuable asset

[patent sonnet]

You could just ask someone for one, the starborn phoenix could either be copied via expedition or just save edited to be copied by the other player

again, I'd be fine just giving you one

[jagged plaza]

Are you on permadeath? @patent sonnet

[patent sonnet]

I have a PD save

[jagged plaza]

👀

Could we?

[patent sonnet]

Yes, nothing is stopping this

[covert remnant]

I think nomansapp.com can do it for free too

[heavy mortar]

Except if you're gonna save edit a ship you might as well save edit the pet to SSS lol

[jagged plaza]

How do we do this tho, never done it before

[heavy mortar]

I try not to use save editing for anything other than fixing technical issues like an invisible base computer

For my own saves at least

[patent sonnet]

First of all, we have to add each others' friend codes.
My friend code is RER3-HTWB-9FG6R, I'll also need to add yours too
You can find your friend code in Options > Network > View NMS Friends List, or from the "Join Friends" part of the main menu which is also where you join other players

[heavy mortar]

Ill help someone else save edit their save

[jagged plaza]

VHHD-FAN6-PZ3BG

[patent sonnet]

Added, you should now be able to join me via the main menu if you added my code too

Just come to the Space Station and stand next to my ship while I trade it to another lifeform, who will then appear next to where my ship was for you to claim it from

[jagged plaza]

Aighty

[jagged plaza]

The fandom wiki lies. The Tortured Honey Cake wants to make my eggs playful.

[shell peak]

How do you get rank in the Xeno arena? I think I've beaten seven system champions. Do I just need to get to 10 and I achieve the first rank?

[flint spire]

1st time I see this type of "snake" ball, ASS 👍

Oops wrong picture mode w8

[scarlet cipher]

You can see your ranks in

[flint spire]

Gg !

[scarlet cipher]

Gota be the very best

[flint spire]

[pseudo thorn]

I don't know what I was expecting when I bred him, but it wasn't this, he is massive, I dub thee...Titan

[shell peak]

I found an ASS ball yesterday too

[mystic compass]

Lol asss

[flint spire]

Lmao

[mystic compass]

Bombastic side eye 👀

[flint spire]

Image if they were rank from A to Z, people would pay to know location of NGA pet 😂😂😂

[mystic compass]

Ayoo yooo

[flint spire]

😂😂😂

[chilly atlas]

Hey how do you all have so many pets with just 30 slots? Like what if you have all 30 slots filled you just lose one?

[flint spire]

Yup, trying to get only sss while doing some gene sequencer to get exactly the one I want 👍

Did those 2 final version atm, ima do a 3rd one rn with my flying beetle

[chilly atlas]

Ahh okey and do you know if pets defend you or something?

I have only 1 pet out of 2 slots and its called a chuo chuo it says it has 100 aggression 100 dutiful and 90 loyal

[flint spire]

Nope but some can chase other pet if ur on a planet and u call it, u can fly with some, but it’s mostly for fighting now

[flint spire]

Nice, sad u will need to do another egg to get 100 loyal

[chilly atlas]

Haha its a tiny bird i dont thunk i can fly on it 😅

[chilly atlas]

I don't think i can get eggs out of it right? I only have one

It was gifted in the anomaly to me idk where the bird is found

[flint spire]

If it’s bird then just make one big enough and u can fly

[flint spire]

Ohh it’s a modded one, u will fly fast with that

[prime gate]

You'll get a chit from Oceanus that takes you to a specific challenger. You fight two on planets and then get an S-tier chit to go to a station, at which point you fight a specific champion for that rank.

[chilly atlas]

Do i like, buy upgrades for it? Sorry im a new playef

[flint spire]

Yes u can, check his climate then go to a planet with it

[prime gate]

And then beating that one gives you a basic chit and the cycle starts again.

[flint spire]

Buy upgrade ? Nah u can’t do nothing with it except fighting like Pokémon, winning lvl ect

[chilly atlas]

And is it like actually tameable to get a pair? Cause every bird i see is like flying reak high and i cant feed them

[flint spire]

U can’t tam bird, that’s why it’s a modded one, but some flying creature are tameable like butterfly

[chilly atlas]

Ohh Okey so this little bird will stay little since i cant get it a partner to have eggs right?

[flint spire]

U don’t need partner

Just go on a planet with the right climate, call him, feed him and pet him, then u can get an egg

Wtf is doing my corrector

[chilly atlas]

Alright thanks!

It says its too young i guess normal irl time will let it grow?

[flint spire]

Alright so, when it’s too young time will depend of his age, when it’s just hatched it’s like 4-5days 👍

[chilly atlas]

Damn haha alright I'll wait for it to grow, thanks so much for the help!

[flint spire]

[mystic compass]

Whst does evoing a creature do?

[flint spire]

Now they fight 😂😂

[scarlet cipher]

Evolving is just leveling it up

Increase stats basically

Can change attacks at lvl 30

[heavy mortar]

@ember wave sorry for another ping but this is so rridiculous. I jumped on an old expedition save (forgot which expedition) after turning off egg timers (since I didn't want to cheat in my main saves) and set the difficulty to creative. While I was running around randomly gathering creatures to test with, I stumbled across another SSS bird. This is the second SSS bird I've found and this is literally rendevous 5 of some old expedition. Now I'm wondering if birds have different class chance rates lol

I just realized I didn't actually get the class in the first image; oh well you can see it one of the others lol

birds are hard to scan sometimes

sorry I'm stupid, this one

also to clarify I don't consider adopting pets like birds as cheating because console players can obtain them from other players; I base a lot of my personal 'rules' on if console players can do it or not lol

[shell peak]

If i change the attack, then lay an egg, does child have new attack?

[mystic compass]

How do u guys find so many sss classes😭

[shell peak]

I'm on your world and found this creature but it doesnt seem tamable?

[heavy mortar]

you need a mod

companion pet unlocker

if you're on console, you'll have to have someone else on pc capture it and gift you an egg

[scarlet cipher]

Not sure I have not tried

[flint spire]

3rd handmade pet 🤭

[flint spire]

Explore again and again, got most of my find in yellow system tho

[mystic compass]

Ugghhh what the statss

[flint spire]

🤭

[mystic compass]

UGGGHHHH DO U HAVE AN EGG FKR THATTT

[flint spire]

I can make an egg with his parent and explain u how I did a white one with 100% if u want

[quartz temple]

Pls do

[mystic compass]

Up to uuuu i just know i will never be able to find that beetle cause im to focus on a god dam bio dome farm which is gonna take nesrly a month to finish

[flint spire]

Alright lazy ima mp u my id, and ima explain here how to do my beetle

So, I took my beetle and did: 3 lemmium for color - I personnaly use gold to grow size or pugneum for smaller, and then use gold-indium-magnetised ferrite to make 100% stat 👍

[mystic compass]

Noted notedd

[flint spire]

https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1AMliRuTNAeSyCWyZcJI-Sk_saihy1MPm?usp=sharing

Btw google doc with some color beetle-butterfly-blob and some

[prime gate]

No. Children have a reroll on skill sets. No direct inheritance of skills.

[mystic compass]

Wait u can take a child of Helios????

[shell peak]

That's interesting then. Are there skills for each type that tend to be preferred? Could be worth rerolling my sss dudes before investing too much time in them

[pseudo thorn]

Noticed the size of this guy is ridiculous

[prime gate]

Afaik, aside from generally favoring their natural element, no, skills cycle through otherwise.

[crude thicket]

let me know on Tuesday sometime if you want to fight this in game, suggest fighting with 2 to 4 players, and is probably the toughest boss in the game

[tired sluice]

How do you get the ability to build an arena table in your own base?

I do the intro mission but don’t see it in anomaly to purchase.

[tranquil zephyr]

only w/ a mod
it isn't a vanilla feature for some reason

[flint spire]

Guys I cooked

Give me 1 min to take a nice picture

Before&After

[near marsh]

Are old eggs useless now

Like ones before the arena patch

[flint spire]

Idk

[near marsh]

I’m assuming so because they show up as economy scanner technology overloaded

So anyone want to sell some expedition eggs because my old ones can’t hatch

[flint spire]

Yh some people will for sure 👍 can give u child of helios but still a kid atm 👍

Sss too

[near marsh]

I’ll trade you nanites if you’d like

[flint spire]

Nah I’ll give for free idc 👍

[near marsh]

Bet ill post my friend code in group finder

[flint spire]

I’ll send u a mp, hmu in like 3-4 days 👍

[near marsh]

Will do

[flint spire]

[prime gate]

heheheh... ow.

[shell peak]

What is the name of this kind of creature? It is huge and i can ride it. Someone dropped the egg on me in anomaly before xeno update

[errant wharf]

S Class Pet

[cunning lava]

Anyone got a spare giant Dune worm 😭😆

[fathom berry]

Fire Pet SSS

[fluid monolith]

any have a titan worm i can snatch an egg from?

[surreal horizon]

Titan Worms cannot be tamed afaik

[cunning lava]

They can

[cunning lava]

My friend has One

[fierce knot]

They are expedition rewards

And they can lay eggs to be traded

[heavy mortar]

@ember wave you asked about my research on anatomy in the egg sequencer, and here's my results: you have no fucking control and each creature can only be modified once; after that any offspring will just ignore the anatomy value regardless of what you put in. Additionally:
-Resource has no effect on what you'll get, and it'll be the same every time for that specific creature. I tried everything including all metal, several gasses, and even random stuff like acid.
-The dosage has no effect on what you get. Instead, it acts as a percentage chance for the mutation to happen. I.e, 50% dosage means a 50% chance to mutate (only once though). Overdosing just gurantees the mutation.
-After messing around with this for hours, I discovered that someone else had already come to this conclusion 5 years ago, and then later someone documented it here: https://nms.miraheze.org/wiki/Egg_Sequencer
-This has been happening since the egg sequencer was introduced so it's hard to say if it's a bug or not, but it definitely seems dumb. Hopefully it gets reworked.

This throws a massive wrench in my plans for fully customizing the SSS pets I got from existing finds

Something needs to give: either they change how mutations work or allow us to upgrade the classes of pets

[ember wave]

oh i didnt know this was explained like this in the miraheze wiki, nice!

[fluid trellis]

Thats is not what the link says imo.
"Attempting to change Anatomy or Colouration only needs to be performed once. Once performed, it cannot be undone, not even if subsequent egg edits are left blank and display as Inherited. This applies to the Gene Splitter and Dye Injector."
This says nothing about any offspring from a modified creature being unmodifiable.

If offspring can not be modified again with the splitter or dye injector I sure hope that it is a bug.

Also the following is misleading: "The menu can be left at any time, which will automatically return any items placed in it"
Yes, it will return the items, but not from where they originated. E.g. If I put indium from my inventory, after leaving the menu it is in my storage unit...

[quiet monolith]

True, you should be able to have SSS animals that look they way you want (probably only after you work for it but it should be possible)

[fluid trellis]

Do we know the size of when a creature is considered small or large and if the Agility/HP bonus scales with how large a creature is (or just gives a flat bonus if it is large)?

[tribal coral]

That is a big pet xd

[flint spire]

😂😂😂😂

[heavy mortar]

I verified this with in game testing

Multiple generations of the same pet (I used a mod to disable egg timers) and i couldn't change the look after the first generation

Dye injector and other stiff work as expected; it's just the anatomy being broken

I might do some digging with a save editor (on a new creative mode save) to see if this is intentional or not, like if there's some sort of boolean flag for if the anatomy was modified or not

[flint spire]

Kinda struggling to understand what u guy said 🤣, do u mean that if we change the anatomy 1 time it can’t be change again ? So if we want to try some shit we need to either save&reload or make plenty of eggs ?

[heavy mortar]

Each creature has one potential anatomy change, and the result of that change is hard baked into the creature itself. No amount of reloading will change it

And then after that change is applied, if you get an egg from that modified creature, the anatomy value in the gene sequencer will be ignored

Doesn't matter how many generations you make; the anatomy is locked

[flint spire]

So u mean that a creature have 2 "form" only 😮

[heavy mortar]

This is very easy to verify yourself if you just drop a save before modifying a ready to hatch egg, or grab a mod that removes egg timers like companion pet unlocker

[heavy mortar]

Correct

[flint spire]

Ima need to test that for real, it fck my plan hard

[heavy mortar]

By all means, test away

You'll be disappointed just like I was

[flint spire]

What about creature that completely change ?

[heavy mortar]

It's one anatomy change. That change can be anything but it'll always be the same change

[flint spire]

Dammit, I did ask ChatGPT few days ago to do some modifications, he told me that creature have a pool of modifications and that the ressource u put and the % could modify what u get, bro being wrong af

[heavy mortar]

If you do some digging on the steam forums and reddit, you'll find that this issue was reported 5 years ago

[heavy mortar]

I still don't understand why people always think AI is correct. Learn to think for yourself please

[fathom berry]

Do You have a mod to reorganize the pets register order or another method? Or just neh?

[flint spire]

Yh that’s what u said earlier, I would think that is not an issue then

[fluid trellis]

I have a pet that I modified, and one of the same species I did not modify.
I cant remember if the modified one is a child of the unmodified one (I suspect no, but iirc the only difference to the other creature was that it had no ^2057164873).

[heavy mortar]

No

I'm using a custom version of companion pet unlocker that I modified

[heavy mortar]

There's a lot more differences than that, including a very suspicious value called "allowUmodifiedReroll"

[flint spire]

Lower ur tone on that bro, I know that, did my search before and struggle to find anything, I know how to use it, give him some precise term to search on the internet to get the best results, u can easily understand that he got wrong cuz there not a lot of data about that and I did not take what he said as a true of god ofc I know it can be wrong, using ai don’t mean I don’t think myself, it’s crazy to say that

[heavy mortar]

I'm very anti AI but I'll leave it at that

After work I'll get the jsons for a pet and its modified offspring and play around

I suspect that value I mentioned plays a roll into this, but if so, I'm not sure why they'd implement that

[flint spire]

I mean, take it from another eye, kinda make sense, it add way more chasing if u want the perfect pet, would be too easier if u could just take any creature of the spieces and make any others from it, know thats something that people need to share more, it would be cool to get location+rank+variant+gene modified when people post someone but if so it will take some time to get the egg + modify+ hatching to get the data

[fluid trellis]

No, i meant differences between the unmodified creature, and the unmodified creature that was the parent of the modified one

And yes, that one is very sus

[pliant zealot]

LFB........................Looking for Battles

[pliant zealot]

SSS FROST
EUCLID
If made as small as possible at the Egg Sequencer, this pet can achieve 409 Agility.
Enjoy!

[fluid trellis]

I found a SSS underground anomalous rodent in a purple system.
Available with horn on the nose and without.

[fierce knot]

@lone pelican do you have any worm eggs? Also I got a spare sss mecha mouse egg if you would like it

[calm scaffold]

By any chance, does anyoe have coordinates for an SSS mechanical/frost/radiation creature? Prefferably with high-ish agility too. I'm having no luck finding them!

[calm scaffold]

That's very cool! do you know what the cooldown is like on its moves?

I noticed some creatures with the same move seem to have different cooldowns, some having a ridiculous 5 turn cooldown for a simple move 🤔

[pliant zealot]

I believe there are Tiers to skills. The more Powerful the Longer Cooldowns.........I believe

[calm scaffold]

I have a few creatures that have the same barrier ability, though one will have the buff up for 4 turns, with a 2 cooldown, while another will have it up for 6 turns, with a 4 cooldown

And both creatures are not able to opt out of switching between a longer or shorter cooldown variant, they're locked into it

So trying to figure out what the cause is exactly, since I tend to lean more into the shorter cooldown ones

[pliant zealot]

Soooooooooooo much is unknown right now 👿

[calm scaffold]

Yeah, also forgot to mention, that ones that have logner lasting buffs, but longer cooldowns, tend to also provide weaker buffs/debuffs despite identaical combat effectiveness to another creature I have. For example, this one has basically I think 896 combat effectiveness, just 4 away from max, but only absorbs 26% damage

Vs this one that has the same combat, but absorbs 33%, its only 4 turns, but a 2 turn cooldown

compared to that ridiculous 5 cooldown from the mechanic type

[pliant zealot]

Different Biomes, different skill levels?

[calm scaffold]

tried that, but I have another fire biome creature, similar moves to this fire one, but has the long cooldown issue, one sec lemme grab it

They both decrease accuracy, but the bottom one is stronger, top one lasts longer, but also has a 5 cooldown vs my little one that has a 2 cooldown

The ones with the very long cooldowns i find myself half the time using the normal attack because the moves I want to use keep getting stuck on cooldown 😂

Oh they both also have the agility attack move, but the big guy has an extra +1 added cooldown compared to the other

another reason im stuck mostly using the regular attack

[fierce knot]

Do you prefer that ability or the sheild and heal ability. That puts up a sheild and heals a certain amount of health like 850hp

[calm scaffold]

I think it depends, if it's a short cooldown creature, like 2 turns and I can put it back up, i prefer the one that absorbs a flat amount of damage to health. If it's a long cooldown, like 4-5 turns, then I go for the "absorb x % percentage of damage"

Since absorbing 900ish flat damage to health with a 5 turn cooldown isnt going to cut it

too many turns for the opponent to destroy itt then wreck my health

[fierce knot]

I have been using one with a 3 turn cool down with 870hp healed and I can reset cooldowns if needed

[calm scaffold]

Didnt they just do an update today that made the cooldown ability itself have a cooldown? Wont that mess up your rhythm

[fierce knot]

No cause I am using the 4 turn delayed damage so I have a set up around that.

[calm scaffold]

Problem with the flat shield buffs + cooldown combo, you dont really have anything to counter someone just purging your buff, and then attacking you on the turn you use the cooldown ability, rinse and repeat until death

if fighting an opponent with short cooldowns

[fierce knot]

But I can because it more of a delay tactic than anything

If they waste turn on purging my abilitys I knock them out faster

[calm scaffold]

The 4 turn delay damage if your opponent has it also blastas through the flat damage absorbing shield, since it's unfortunately not percentage based, and breaks compared to the one that absorbs a percentage and stays up several turns, basically if it's a longer battle, I think the percentage one usually works in your favour.

Lets say for example I use a 4 turn delay move of your 900 hp absorb shield, that damage will break the shield, still take a chunk out of you since those attacks do 3000ish usually, and if my creature has higher agility and I get a turn before you, I just need one good hit in, and the creature will fall before your turn comes

Thats usually how my matches have gone when they use that tactic

I just have to mke sure to survive the 4 turns in the mean time, which is what my negative accuracy debuff is for 😄

All the misses haha

[fierce knot]

Aah I see

[calm scaffold]

Your tactic can work well ideally if you outspeed your opponent, if you dont though, its better to go for the one that absorbs a percentage of damage instead just to tank up better

[fierce knot]

So I would be better aiming for the pesentage heal. Good for pvp. but against dumb bots it works

[calm scaffold]

This little guy has 418 agility 😄 so its hard to outspeed

[fierce knot]

Thats fair

[calm scaffold]

I think for you a good counter to my tactic of a 4 turn damage attack, is either one that absorbs based on a percentage so it stays up a few turns instead of breaking, or to switch to that "Large heal in 3-4 turns", and simply switch out on the turn right before the heavt damage happens

That way my attack wouldnt finish you, and your creature will also heal while back on the bench

So itll be up for another fight

[fierce knot]

The problem is have with the persentage heals is they dont tend to actualy heal they just block some of the damage

I usually end up worse off

Mabey I am using it wrong

[calm scaffold]

it can heal once you have a turn to put a shield up while also already having a shield up, Like in this picture. Up for 4 turns, but 2 turn cooldown, so on the turn it plans to expire, I cast a new one, if I receive an attack or heavy damage, I'll usually heal instead of take the damage

So you have to time it right too

Its what im liking about this battle system, timing is a big key too!

[fierce knot]

But dont you take more damage than you heal overall?

[calm scaffold]

Basically ifv youre using a flat 900 hp shield, and your opponent is using attacks that do 2000 or even 3000+ on their turns, it's no use, the percentage based shield works better.

For opponents that primarily have 1 main attack "like the agility attack" with 1000ish damageand their other move is something else, like buffing themselves up, then you're safe to use the flat health absorbding shield

but 2000+ damage or higher zone definitely go for the percentage based shield, it wont health you as often, but youll be tankier , and putting another shield on top of an existing one you can still heal on that turn

[calm scaffold]

It depends, if its 900 hp shield, then you need to take 1800+ or more to actually have your health go lower than where it was before. 900 will heal it, 1500 will heal 900 but take the remaining 600 damage, which is still a net positive in your books

So its good for opponents that arent doing enormous damage

but fails for opponents that are doing massive damage

Like the pesky 4 turn delay attacks

[flint spire]

Poor guy 😭

[pliant zealot]

We need to battle 😈

[fierce knot]

I see your using it to sustain a tank i am using to get small relief quickly between attacks

[calm scaffold]

Im still trying to find creatures, but absolutely! I got back to playing NMS I think a week ago and loving it! Im finding some creatures will decent stats, but long cooldowns, oof, so it seems finding SSS WITH a desireable cooldown for my strategy is extremeely difficult

but more reason to keep playing 😄

[fierce knot]

Also thanks for explaining how it working for you. So I can try to critique my set up

[calm scaffold]

lets say you put a shield up, use cooldown ability, then put another shield up, what if I then remove your buffs on my turn? 😉

Ill get an attack in, you need to use the cooldown ability again (assuming you even can as they changed how that ability works in todays update), and then I get another free attack in before you can put your shield up.

Or what if I remove your shield right before my 4 turn delay attack hits you? Boom ded 😄

But this is good to think about, there isnt a winning strategy, there's counters to everything

so id make sure some creatures fight differently

[calm scaffold]

Oh its okay! im still understanding it too, Im just using my experience! Ive fought the 60 champion npcs so far, and I think ive fought maybe 40ish players, so this is what ive found so far

[fierce knot]

I am thinking to small I see. I have mainly be playing against bots with mediocre abilitys and tactics

If I take 11k damage then I am as good as dead

[calm scaffold]

Oh yeah for npcs I tend to have 1 attack based on my agility for massive damage, and the other the one where you hit hard again, but buff enemies combat effectiveness, a 2 hit combo that finishes most npcs, super simple, but yeah it work work on real players wanting to build strategies 😄

[calm scaffold]

11k? 👀

[flint spire]

Check my pics 🤭

[fierce knot]

Exactly

[calm scaffold]

How comes so high? because of the shields? If so, it's 11k until the purging of the shields 😎

[calm scaffold]

pics in the server? Looking!

[flint spire]

Cuz of the 160% boost on attack by sacrifice my 1st pet + probably the fact that he didn’t have boosted pet, u can check just a bit earlier here

[calm scaffold]

Oh the sacrifice moves of course! I dont really have a creature that uses it yet, it's great for the team, though personally I think its a little unbalanced.

You can get creatures where the buff lasts for an insane 8 turns

8 TURNS

And its 100% damage reduction

[fierce knot]

Wow

[calm scaffold]

Seems a little too mandatory at that point

[flint spire]

160% is crazy tbh and it’s for 6 turn 🤣

[calm scaffold]

Yeah, I think things like over double damage for multiple turns, or receiving 0 damage for 8 turns is a bit too silly, im sure some moves do need a little balancing still

Though its fine, it is a new game mode

[flint spire]

Well, purge and it’s gone

[calm scaffold]

I know buffs can be purged, but 100% damage reduction means the purge debuff move now has to be mandatory, not optional, which is a bit lame

i like options

And again, emphasis on the EIGHT TURNS

Thats far too long!

[flint spire]

I mean, when u take competitive Pokémon its the same, it’s either u decide to have some crazy boost to shoot everyone or either u try to slow ur op, always yin and yang

[calm scaffold]

Personally, and id like your guys opinions on this!

the move that you sacrifice a creature in exchange for your team having higher damage or defense, should be based on how much health your creature sacrificed when using the sacficial move (so if my 1st creature only had 10% health remaining and I used it, id get maybe a 30% defense boost for my team, instead of 100%)

[flint spire]

Yh make some sense

I would like to have more data too, since we can up our defense we should have a data of it ect

[fierce knot]

Do ether of you know how the scaling works for the damage that scales depending on the enimes agility.

Also feel like the sacrifice can be countered by a simple tank

[calm scaffold]

Yeah but 100% damage reduction for 8 turns is like a pokemon using the move Protect 8 turns in a row, which it cant do, and the fact you can just use offensive moves while this buff is up so you're not actually using it every turn either

Its basically way too OP

[calm scaffold]

Im not too sure, what i know is, the more agility you have, the more damage you deal, but the closer or higher the opponents agility is, the less your attack will do too.

if i have 400 agility, and my opponent also has 400 agility, and I use my agility attack move, it does about 1000 damage, so nothing too crazy

[flint spire]

I mean, what about the combo where u reduce a op stat and if retired get some damage, did it with a pet that can play 2 turn in a row and ur defense is out + u lose ur pet

[calm scaffold]

Only reason i use it really is because the other slot 2 moves are bad 😂

[calm scaffold]

Hmmm maybe maybe, will have to see, I'm sure devs are keeping an eye on feedback in the mean time! still learning things, like we still havent figured out why some creatures with the exact same move have different cooldowns/durations on buffs/debuffs, and you cant opt into switching to a shorter cooldown, or vice versa

things like that

[flint spire]

If everyone goes on high agility there probably something to do with the attack that depend of the op agility, make a big slow tank and 3k assured vs high agility (ofc op is assured to get his 3k too)

[flint spire]

Yh that didn’t make sense here, same attack need to have same cooldown

[calm scaffold]

Only dfownside is opponent still has the advantage, because if you have low agility and use the agility move thats based on opponents agility, even if you both hit the same, he has 2 advantages.

1. He attacks first due to being faster. And 3000ish damage is a TON for theirvery first move.

2. because you're slower, you also have a higher chance of missing

Making it still not a viable strat unfortunately

Since agility is also tied to your chance of hitting/missing

if it wasnt then that would help

[flint spire]

So atm agility is the only strong build… bruh

[flint spire]

We need precision data ect fr

[calm scaffold]

If its the slot 2 move, id say either the agility attack, or the one where you attack and deal 2x turns of small damage. because sometimes the opponent will freak out, wanting to cleanse it, thus sacrificing a turn.

Or just because those are 2 extra chances of it critting too, thus it can potentially do slightly higher damage than the agility move

but obviously if the agility move crits, thats even better

So yeah not really any options

[flint spire]

Pretty sad …

[calm scaffold]

Yeah the tier 2 moves need to be rebalanced the most

[fierce knot]

Agreed

[calm scaffold]

Im happy with slot 3, several great moves, cleanse, heavy attack but buff opponent, even heavier attack but debuff yourself, or the massive 3-4 turn delay attack thats amazing if you can stay in the fight long enough

Slot 4 the small heal for x turns I think should be just a little stronger

and some moves having 5 cooldown vs 2 turn cooldown for the same move on some creatures needs to be sorted, we need answers for that

Slot 5 im happy with except for the sacrificial move which is both way too strong and buff lasts way too long, makes the cleansing move mandatory instead of optional

Oh also the move where you use a turn to reduce your defense by 100%, and the next turn you hit hard, that move needs a buff, its too weak for what it does.

Also despite the fact its a 2x turn move, it only reduces the cooldown of all your other moves by x1 instead of x2

So that needs to be fixed

Its like that for all multi-turn moves actually

so any multi-turn move is bad currently

dont use them!"

Except for the delayed attack move of course

[tranquil zephyr]

Have you put in a bug report? that's something they can probably fix pretty easily, they already fixed the cooldown reset move resetting itself
Unless it's intended which would be lame

[fierce knot]

I also think there need to be more variation in the stats like a buff to editing genes so heath or agility cood exceed max. Because right now a maxed out xeno will pretty much have the same stats no matter what

[calm scaffold]

Oh I haven't i think I actually just joined this server yesterday! So i assumed someone in this massive community has done so already 😄

[fierce knot]

We need the a ability for one stats to exceed the max by losing another actualy allowing more diversity in roles such as tank or attacker

Right now the only difference is really abilitys

[calm scaffold]

Hmmm I dunno, i have a few S agility creatures with about 370 agility at max, while others are 410+, which is quite the difference!

You can change their hp or agility slightrly depending on if you make them bigger or smaller when incubating an egg

so there's that

[fierce knot]

But if you only used maximum stat xenos it would be weird

[calm scaffold]

Yeah I wouldnt have that same dopamine when I spot a creature with a really high S stat!

[fierce knot]

Thats fair

But my brawler and tank and light attacker all basically have the same stats

[calm scaffold]

They do? Dont look too much at the bars, see what their numerical value is when talking to an npc and they want a fight, you'll see the stats there

[fierce knot]

There's no reason not to have 3 of the same creature with diffrent abilitys

No real incentive other than looks to find more which is sad

[calm scaffold]

Unless you want to double stack! For example

I decrease your combat effectiveness,

I switch

I decrease your combat effectiveness again

now it'll feel like you're hitting me with a wet noodle for a few turns

😄

So it can work a little depending on the move

Mostly the debuffing moves

But currently some creatures can have roughly the same stats, but different cooldowns and different durations on buffs/debuffs too, so you may want a fire creature that attacks often, and another fire creature that's more for longer lasting buffs/debuffs in certain situations. So there's also that currently

[fierce knot]

Thats fair

I just feel we mabey need some basic buffs like. Plus 10% max health or + 10 defense. To really make each creature unique

That way you can really have a dedicated tank or dps.

[calm scaffold]

Welp personality traits help with that with the bonus moves! As they will trugger extra buffs/ debuffs or attacks.

[fierce knot]

I all ready max them out

[calm scaffold]

For example, high Helpfulness means you occasionally get a buff to combat effectiveness for 2 turns

Oh, then it should be triggering often

[fierce knot]

At least on my main pets

[calm scaffold]

I have that on my damage dealers

[fierce knot]

I would even settle for a couple more options in the personality department

But honestly I am not going to complain with the basic system we have right now

It's not perfect but it's a side feature

[calm scaffold]

Yeah it's still a work in progress 🙂 A good start I think too

[tranquil zephyr]

with how little community response HG got from this update they probably won't implement anything else for it

[fierce knot]

It's unfortunate

But respect to the devs for how much there updating things and the frequency of it without any additional cost or stupid microtransactions

[raven hatch]

such beauties sadly cant catch them 🙁

[calm scaffold]

Sad times 🙁

Annoys me that the npcs can use creatures that we cant obtain, a lot of the fish and flying ones

[pliant zealot]

We have fish and Flyers that can battle

[calm scaffold]

Some, but I'm sure I see NPCS using creatures unobtainable too

[inland geode]

Yo is there a way to get all my pets stuff to level S

My big worms are only level A

[calm scaffold]

Currently no, you have to just find a natural creature that comes with SSS

[inland geode]

Damn my worms😭

[calm scaffold]

though it could change in a future update maybe! So id hold onto them

[calm scaffold]

Oh yeah that ones obtainable, need to find me one one day 😄

I wonder how high its agility goes, as it looks like you can make it smaller!

[pliant zealot]

No that's it's limit. That's why I don't use it

[calm scaffold]

Oh thats the limit? I havent seen a creature that cant go below 1m in size, thats unlucky

[pliant zealot]

SSS FROST
EUCLID
If made as small as possible at the Egg Sequencer it's Agility is 394
Enjoy!

[calm scaffold]

Oh also, your SSS frost creature you posted in the server earlier has a pretty good cooldown rate! Like debuffing or buffing himself with shields has a 3 turn cooldown, which is much better than some creatures that do the same move with a 5 turn cooldown

[calm scaffold]

Nice!

[pliant zealot]

I've been able to unlock T3 skills on this pet today

[calm scaffold]

Ooh whats T3?

[pliant zealot]

Not many are using that term but I am. There seems to me to be 3 levels of skill/moves. I consider this T3

[calm scaffold]

Oh in that case, T3 are the ones that can absorb/reflect the most damage, but at the cost of having really long cooldowns

So im assuming your shield there in a battle is probably a 5 turn cooldown

Most of my creatures are on a 2-3 cooldown

[pliant zealot]

I am using just the biggest damage/heal numbers for that term. I am not considering Cooldowns

[calm scaffold]

Ahh okay, yeah the higher the number is, the longer the cooldown is too

So this would be T1, smaller absorb/reflect, but 2 turn cooldown

[pliant zealot]

In my notebook, yes
But that's just me

[inland geode]

Dude you got an egg for that creature that thing looks sick

[calm scaffold]

1 sec will reply in a sec, sentinels rushing me (in calpyso galaxy)

[calm scaffold]

I believe there are actually 4 tiers so far, as certain buffing & debuffing moves can last for 4/5/6/7 turns, the longer it is, the longer the cooldown is, as well as the strength of the buff/debuff being weaker the more stretched out the cooldown is

a 7 turn vs a 4 turn

Tier 2 id say is the magical spot, where some shields/debuffs are 3 turn cooldown, only +1 ahead of the minimum, but not enough to mess with the cooldown of your offensive moves, like the agility attack still only having a 1 turn cooldown

Where as creatures with a 4-5 turn cooldown for shields and stuff, their offensive moves tend to also have longer cooldowns which isnt good

Puts you in situations where everything ends up on cooldown so you have to use the normal attack sometimes

[pliant zealot]

Thank you!!

[calm scaffold]

From my battle experience, id also switch from the flat damage absoption to a percentage based one if the creature has a long cooldown, like 4-5 turns, since usually they can can asborb about 1000ish damage, but thats 1000ish in about 5 turns, its too stretched thin, compared to 750ish but can be activated every 2 turns which is much safer. The long cooldown ones id say benefit from the percentage based defense more, heals a litttle less but you're overall more tanky throughout the fight, and can still heal if you put a 2nd shield up on the same turn your previous shield is going to expire on!

[calm scaffold]

Sure! The mechanical one?

Heres the same move as the pic above, but on one that blocks for 7 turns, 26% isnt too hgih, but definitely better than a 900-1000 damage absorb threshold to protect you for that many turns which wont cut it

[pliant zealot]

We should battle 😈

[calm scaffold]

Sure! How does one invite someone? 😄

[pliant zealot]

We add each other friend's codes and join a game.
Here's mine

[calm scaffold]

Oooh thanks one sec

I think I added

if not lemme get mine

NSGJ-DPXS-MKSYY

[pliant zealot]

Added, can you join my game?

I'm at the Anomaly

[calm scaffold]

sure one sec

[calm scaffold]

Oh it says "Version Mismatch"

Did you update earlier today? 👀

[pliant zealot]

Probably not. I've been on for hours.
Update for ps5 is out?

[calm scaffold]

Uh oh, one sec

Ahhhh just pc im afraid, so probably soon

Though dont forget they changed the move that makes your moves cooldown, where it no longer cools itself down to be spammed

Guess in the mean time, ill hunt for some good creatures that are mechnical or radiation now

The only 2 i have for those are ones with the loooongest cooldowns, making them hard to fight with

I think creatures like that are meant for using a move or 2, setting up a very long buff/debuff, then switching to another creature while that still lingers for a while

But in a 1 vs 1 theyre very difficult to work with

[inland geode]

Bet what's your user? Sorry for the late reply I didn't get a noti

[calm scaffold]

NSGJ-DPXS-MKSYY

Im on pc!

But no egg yet, will need to find a place for it to lay an egg 😄

[inland geode]

I'm on ps5 is the game updated?

[calm scaffold]

sadly not yet, we just had a hotfix today!

So maybe in a day or 2, gives me time to get an egg 😄

Have any interesting SSS's on your end?

[inland geode]

Not yet no

I just redownloaded ngl

Wanted to check out the new stuff

[mellow sparrow]

Does anyone have a egg for one of these. I know it’s possibly from an expedition from the beginning of the game.

[undone pond]

i don't think thats an expedition pet

[mellow sparrow]

I read a post suggesting it could’ve been or a modified save something like that

[undone pond]

ill see if i can't find a way to get you that egg give me a bit

[mellow sparrow]

Any help would be appreciated

[undone pond]

ok i found the planet there from, working to get there now real fast then ima set up a base, ill lyk when i have an egg

[mellow sparrow]

Sounds good

[undone pond]

OK

made it to the planet

there it is!

now i just gotta learn how to get the creature threw the save editor

ok does anyone know how to do this?

the website they keep saying to use doesn't have this creature type

[mellow sparrow]

Maybe they patched this

[undone pond]

no the creature editor i have is old lol

im suppost to use a creature editor with an egg to get the creature

[mystic compass]

Ave u tried to do the normal way and feed it?

[mellow sparrow]

Is that even possible?

[tranquil zephyr]

If you're already willing to go as far as save edit just to get a pet, just get companion pet unlocker mod
Makes pretty much every creature available as a tameable pet in game and it works with other players / xeno arena with no issues

[mystic compass]

Idk never delt with save editors stuff

[mellow sparrow]

I’m assuming it’s only on pc?

Oh well

It’s only a pet

[tranquil zephyr]

if you ask pc players with the mod to get a specific non tameable pet they can get you an egg from it

[quiet apex]

Ice Arena

[mellow sparrow]

I would ask on Reddit but there page has a rule about asking for items

[tranquil zephyr]

you can just ask in this chat
you'll get a faster response anyways

[tranquil zephyr]

This is awesome!

[heavy mortar]

does anyone have a link to the image that shows you what different personalities do? like aggressive/helpful/etc.

[undone pond]

yup can't do that

[undone pond]

thats a thing?

[tranquil zephyr]

it's one of the most popular nms mods
there's quite a few on nexus

[heavy mortar]

thanks

[fierce knot]

Np

[undone pond]

is there a way to safely mod my game then unmod it after?

[tranquil zephyr]

all you do is go to your nms folder that contains gamedata and binaries, and create a folder inside gamedata named MODS (assuming steam)
then unzip any mods into it
it isn't like minecraft or other games, 99% of nms mods are "patch" mods and you can uninstall (delete) them without affecting the game in any way

[undone pond]

0.0 i see.

[tranquil zephyr]

personally, I can't play without mods
too many good QoL/UI ones
plus, it's a sandbox game...

[undone pond]

how do i find the mods folder?

[tranquil zephyr]

you have to create it

[undone pond]

ok so i just make a folder in game data called MODS?

[tranquil zephyr]

yep

[upper salmon]

Is this guy tamable with a mod?

[tranquil zephyr]

it's not tameable vanilla?

[upper salmon]

No

[undone pond]

like this?

[tranquil zephyr]

then the mod very likely makes it tameable yeah

[upper salmon]

Ok, I’m on PS5. Hoping someone can tame one and give me an egg.

[tranquil zephyr]

yes, but make sure there isn't another folder level inside that mod
when unzipping it tends to happen
the folders you should see directly inside the mod will usually be GLOBALS or METADATA

[mellow sparrow]

All this pc talk is hurting my brain🗿

[tranquil zephyr]

file folders shouldn't hurt your brain 🗿

[undone pond]

gow do i... catch this thing!

its super fast

how does this creature unlocker work?

[daring seal]

Why does it look like Scrat on Ice Age

[mellow sparrow]

All Hail the blob

[tranquil zephyr]

the mod sets the creature interact distance to super far away
you shouldn't have any problems taming, but remember the base game requirement for taming is you have to be on the ground

[flint spire]

[shell peak]

This crab is yuuuuuge

[mystic compass]

Hahah it giving off "you got any games on yo phone??"

[shell peak]

What are the personality traits i want to max out in my xeno arena pet?

[undone pond]

i have been waiting for another bone worm to spawn for over an hour -.-

[tribal coral]

Reload save?

[wet crown]

For those trying to earn their robo-shrimp: I'm happy to inform that, unlike most special reward pets, this one can be recolored!
I'm going to experiment with other materials and seeds, but this color from 114 Shadow Lures is my favorite so far!

The body, eyes, glow on the tank, and the mech all can change colors.

[undone pond]

reloaded several

i couldn't catch the dang thing tonight ill try again tmr

[tribal coral]

Cant tame worms/ bone worm/ high flying animals

[mellow sparrow]

Which is why we’re using other means of obtaining them

[tranquil zephyr]

they're using companion pet unlocker mod

[flint spire]

U should try Aronium and geodesite (most of my fav have one of those 🤭)

I like lemmium sometime when aronium don’t fit well too

[wet crown]

I definitely tried geodesite, that was one of my favs back when I actually used the sequencer more vs directly changing colourseeds.

I almost kept it too I really liked it. It made the shrimp red with glowy red eyes and the mech body was a bluish purple. I wanted to see if I could get something a little darker but it still looked really good. Sorry I didn't get a screenshot and I think I've manual saved since I did all that 😔 but geodesite is a good one.

The color palettes for this guy are definitely different than the majority of critters though. Geodesite is usually black white and purple, but the different kind of purple and red it resulted in definitely imply different palettes

[flint spire]

Yh it can be pink af with mostly white where some spieces will get dark purple and mostly black part, thats why I love it haha

[wet crown]

Same lol. But this wasn't pink it was red red like blood red. Now that I've already saved I kinda wish I kept it lol. But the metal parts were more blue than I wanted. It looked fine but a much darker blue or gray or purple would have been my desire

[flint spire]

Damn ima need a blood red pet still didn’t have one 🤣

Mech seem to be more blue, got a walking building that goes full white and blue

[tender parrot]

It sucks that the Biohorror and Quad cannot be rerolled

Their class is fixed, goddamit!

[wet crown]

Yeah idk if it's fixed yet but the reward pets freeze my whole game when I try to mutate their abilities.

Honestly though the boundary horror and wandering shrimp have killer movesets as it is if used right though.

[jagged plaza]

Has anyone managed to roll a SSS child of Helios yet?

[covert warren]

Can you get an egg and give it to me?

[wet crown]

I don't think so, mechanical pets seem to be bugged currently. It's something in the code I think. The code does not have a "mechanical" biome so when you try to go to the actual biome the game gets confused and thinks it's not in its native biome. It was that way for both my walking building pet and also the ones I've got from Oceanus

[covert warren]

Darn

[calm scaffold]

If anyone finds a good sss Radioactive/Mech creature, lemme know! I've been struggling the most with those 2!

[jagged plaza]

There's plenty posted on the no man's sky coordinate exchange reddit

[sullen cipher]

Or discord

[calm scaffold]

I had 2 of them, but they were really bad for battles. They were the ones that had moves with extremely long cooldowns. Like putting up a shield and waiting 5 turns, as opposed to my other creaturws with the exact same move with a 2-3 turn cooldown

So I still need to keep an eye out for one that's good for fights too

I think the radioactive cat, radioactive dog, and radioactive crab all on reddit & discord, just very unlucky

If you check my accounts message history in the server, you'll find messages yesterday talking about creaturws with same moves but different cooldowns, and if it's a creature with long cooldowns for example, they're locked into it, can't opt out

[undone pond]

This is getting frustrating. Im trying to tame a sandworm (im using a mod) but it's too fast. I can feed it once then it's too far to tame, or i can't keep up with it to he close enough for the increased range to tame it.

Ideas?

[quick thorn]

Are there any other robotic pets that aren't the ones you get from Expeds?

[round aurora]

There’s planets with quadrupeds and building-sized ones

[quick thorn]

I gotta get those structure bois

[radiant meteor]

#nms-modding prob got some anwsers

[tranquil zephyr]

get instant actions mod
makes the interact circle fill faster

[undone pond]

@tranquil zephyr have you caught sandworms before?

OK i got so close to the worm and it wouldn't let me feed it (i fed tehm earlier

[tranquil zephyr]

yes
you shouldn't have to get close the mod sets the interact distance to extremely far

[tranquil zephyr]

if you want help I can add you

[pliant zealot]

SSS ANOMALOUS
EUCLID
If made as small as possible at the Egg Sequencer, this pet can achieve 410 Agility.
Enjoy

[undone pond]

i have your snake

he is a bit big

but idk how to fix that

@pliant zealot

wanna see it?

i have

many eggs

I give you the Jormungandr

i have eggs for him now

so

if you want one lmk!

trying to figure out how to shrink them

he will death coil you

[pliant zealot]

Thank you very much for your kind offer but no.

I was trying to be funny and failed miserably

[undone pond]

lol

[calm scaffold]

Good find! 😄

I still can't find a good radiation sss with shorter cooldowns, one day!

[quiet apex]

Lava Arena

[heavy mortar]

Are you building on existing tables or modding the tables in?

It looks amazing btw

[patent sonnet]

Modding, as there aren't any holo arena tables in the vanilla game that are in space like that

[heavy mortar]

I'm just wondering how modded tables work since it looks like they're fighting an npc

Like is the npc part of the table? Lol

[patent sonnet]

I believe so, just like the ones in vanilla

[quiet apex]

I built the deco on a sized up circle in game. I added a Gametable via Saveeditor and marked the dimensions of the circle with Lockers. With Blender i shrunk down the home Deco segment and sized it down till it matched the outlinig of the gametable. Then back and forth betwen pc and xbox to check alignment till it fits

[heavy mortar]

But where did the npc come from?

[quiet apex]

No mads requiered. Blender and saveeditor tho.

[quiet apex]

Its part of the table

[heavy mortar]

Lmao

[patent sonnet]

That's still modifying the game in a way that is impossible outside of PC

[quiet apex]

Haha yea. Sadly theres no pvp table in gamefiles to place down.

[quiet apex]

Yes

[quiet apex]

But still no mods tho

[heavy mortar]

I had a feeling they were part of the table when I found an npc at a table in an abandoned system lol

Although they fixed that

[quiet apex]

On the buildt tables the nps are random on restart

[patent sonnet]

Yes, but external tools were used. I'm just clarifying this since it's an important distinction outside of #nms-modding

much confusion is created by "modded" corvette designs already

[heavy mortar]

Honestly I consider all forms of game modification, including save editing, as modding

So yes, a modded table

There's a mod on the nexus for that too but idk of it's multiplayer friendly or not

But if it is I might get it

[indigo mortar]

Just found this guy in the wild

[plucky cove]

Has anyone built a Pokémon tournament yet

Wrong chat my bad

[sand summit]

what an adorable little rainbow baby

[tranquil zephyr]

NMS Galactic Hub discord already has their second event planned for this Saturday
But it's difficult to actually use a special player base for it though because

1. need mod to place the pvp table, and afaik only pc can initiate battles on the placed table
2. bases are notorious for not loading

[jagged plaza]

How do i join that discord?

[tranquil zephyr]

just search nms galactic hub discord on a web browser and you'll find the link to it

[plucky sedge]

Same planet same Species the other is Variant i think but you can find em here

[covert remnant]

any news on Boundary Horror and Corrupted Quad eggs?

[left umbra]

looking for anyone who has found a tamable version of this

[heavy mortar]

so.... xeno arena battles, at least on the table (not in the menu), do not show your dyed creatures if you changed their color; it'll show the original color lol

very annoying if you're trying to dye your creatures to match the type, like light blue/white for frost

I think it's a bug though because other changes show, like anatomy, so I reported it

[patent sonnet]

This makes sense as they were already missing their dyes to other players in MP

[heavy mortar]

wait really?????

omg I hope they fix that; I just.... I just want a custom looking team that OTHER PLAYERS can see lmao

[patent sonnet]

Yes, for as long as I can remember

!hg

[vapid pivot]

Submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[heavy mortar]

I already reported the other thing so maybe they'll at least fix that

but that means.... you basically can't make a custom team, at least appearance wise (if you want them to be S class, like SSS)

you get one anatomy change before it stops working, no dye changes, and you're locked in to finding your own SSS (0.33% chance) or using existing finds

given that they showed off the egg sequencer in the xeno arena trailer, I feel like this isn't intended and I hope it gets fixed/updated

[jagged plaza]

So close yet so far

[jagged plaza]

@heavy mortar What are the odds of getting the same personality traits, same ranks, but different levels in those ranks?

So close

[proud minnow]

Found a planet with robotic animals, kinda like Horizon Zero Dawn

[jagged plaza]

Anyone know why sometimes the 5th ability on companions will have a glyph or two on it?

[mellow sparrow]

I would like to see it

[undone pond]

Im at work. Ill be off at 11 in 2h

[mellow sparrow]

Gotcha

[jagged plaza]

See this is a C rank version of it. Symbol appeared again though. What is this?

[flint spire]

@shadow galleon 😁

[snow hearth]

That's just anomalous creature name for ability afaik

[shadow galleon]

Ooooo, @flint spire , two flutters on one planet how pretty is that!

[flint spire]

Yh + the blue one look so good

[shell peak]

Oceanus is cheating. Using creatures you can't get as pets

I've done about 80 battles and still have no reward rank. Takes a lot i guess

[pliant trail]

Ayy anyone want to battle?

I am trying a team I bred

[autumn owl]

Just a small glitch. Sometimes my ships take on the stats of my Skymon after a battle

[mellow sparrow]

For regular battles I think it’s at 150 is when you get the medal and its reward

It’s a grind I know

I’m nearing it myself

The way I do it is just the training battles with Oceanus

[last zodiac]

[tranquil zephyr]

it's 220

[mellow sparrow]

220 really? Damn

I was way off

[tranquil zephyr]

220 for total wins
60 for champions
20 for max level pets
30 for eggs hatched
don't know what Oceanus max is, didn't have to finish it since they swapped its egg reward with one of the other ones

[bronze wigeon]

Nice battle stats

[fiery ice]

yeah got another one too hermit warrior but lost where it was from but will dig in my log when i done this mission

[cedar seal]

Anyone else not a fan of people posting S stat creatures without showing the creature's attacks? I've seen so many with just the worst moves.

[velvet quest]

dont forget us I need one of those please 🙂

[calm scaffold]

Still on the search for a good triple S radioactive creature (that doesn't have ridiculously long cooldowns on its combat abilities!)

Think it's the last type I'm looking for now

[vivid coyote]

even moreso I'm wishing people would post the expected stats, rather than the adopted stats...
in some cases, s class stats can be worse than a class, and in fact, there's a wide variation in final s class stat.

The above are scans of the natural creature's reading / which from what I've heard are the max final stats of the creature, regardless of gene edits

[calm scaffold]

For me its the cooldow of the creatures moves I want to see.

The moves themselves can be changed once a creature hits level 30, but the cooldown of its moves cannot be changed, it's locked in.

For example, 2 creatures with the exact same shield absorb ability, one will have a 2 turn cooldown, while another has a 7 turn cooldown (the longer ones tend to also be weaker which doesnt help)

Like 4 turns you absorb 33% damage, another is 7 turns you absorb 25% damage (and has a 5 turn cooldown instead of 2), making it both weaker and a long wait to reactivate

This is pretty bad in battles

These 2 examples here, combat effectieness between both is only a 1 point difference, so it isn't that thats causing the gap, it's the cooldown they both have & how long the buff lasts. The longer it is, the weaker it is too, and the longer the cooldown

[vivid coyote]

That said, if you get a good S class, and the moves suck, make a gene edited baby out of it and the skillset changes on the baby.

From my understanding the max stats will not

[calm scaffold]

You mean when you change the personality traits? I know that changes the bonus moves, but the combat moves far as ive checked still have the same cooldowns

both creatures posted here are 100% on all 3 personality traits

[vivid coyote]

no when you change the body parts bit. ive done it four times now, and the offspring of three of them had quite different skillsets.

one retained the same skillset as the parent

[calm scaffold]

Ahh so the moves change? Thats interested, have you verfieid if the cooldown changes too if you end up getting the same move?

Since ive bred eggs and changed body parts and colour and stuff, some get different moves, but cooldown doesnt seem affected to me

[vivid coyote]

i didnt think to check, and i deleted the repeat one already, sadly

[calm scaffold]

Ahhh its okay, we're all still learning!

The ones that have really long cooldowns arent automatically bad, I think they're just bad in 1 vs 1 scenarios. I think those ones are meant to be played by doign a big attack, a long turn debuffing move on the opponent, then you switch it out for another creature during the battle

While the long debuff lingers

But in a 1 vs 1, it will usually lose due to the cooldown of all of its moves being too long, you end up using its basic attack too often

which you dont want

Though if the opponent has moves to self cleanse, or cleanse your buffs, then the long cooldown creature is a bit screwed 😂

[calm scaffold]

Though hopefully the devs continue to balance a little more

Especially this obnoxious move right here

8 turns of 100% damage reduction for the team, get outta hereeeeeeeee

[vivid coyote]

gotta make sure you bring a cleanse skill with you 😄

OR
have a creature (or many) who have natural inclination to remove that / or counter that

[calm scaffold]

Oh I do, but this specific move makes the cleanse move basically mandatory instead of optional, I mean 8 turns of receiving 0 damage for the entire team???, and there's only 1 move that counters it.

Thats not good, thats like a pokemon being able to use Protect 8times in a row, and still attack on each of those 8 turns at the same time

[vivid coyote]

the bonus actions are not to be laughed at.

[calm scaffold]

simply too much

[vivid coyote]

ive got one creature who regularly tosses a "blind foe" bonus action that reduces their accuracy by 49%

[calm scaffold]

So far ive seen one that goes to 62% on the combat move itself

And the independance personality trait triggering an extra 51% too, But say your oppoennt gets 100% damage reduction, you debuff them with accuracy, and then they cleanse it, you're screwed still. Meaning the only option still is if you use a cleanse move on them, so it's still ends up being basically mandatory

I talked about it in the server earlier, I think I said if you use a move where you sacrifice a creature for a big attack/defense buff for the team, it should be more based onw how much % of health your creature sacrificed roughly.

So say you sacrifice a creature that only had 10% health remaining, the team would get 30% damage reduction for x turns, instead of 100%

Other wise it's still too cheese

[quiet apex]

Desert Arena

[haughty rapids]

whats the highest substat pets youve found?

[calm scaffold]

substat?

[haughty rapids]

uh
look at the three bars
this bird has high combat effectiveness even for S
but low agility for S

[calm scaffold]

Oh im not sure, dont have pics of how the bars looked before I made them companions, just pics of the bars of after I trained them to level 30

[haughty rapids]

oof,
the level 30 stats are always relative to their highest stat rather than absolute

[calm scaffold]

Though I have run into a creature capable of 899 combat, but cant remember the planet, 1 sec

This one goes to 899, 1 away from the max of 900

[haughty rapids]

oh damn
RIP the coords for that guy then lmao

[tired merlin]

Modded?

[calm scaffold]

Yeah hes old.

Im on the hunt for a good sss radiation creature if youve managed to spot on yet?

Theres 2 I found on reddit, but both have unbelievably long cooldowns on their combat abilities which is no good

So im still looking for one

[haughty rapids]

abilities dont really matter

since you can reroll them

unlike stats

[calm scaffold]

Im talking about the cooldown, not the abilities, each creature has a specific tier cooldown, the moves/abilities can change, but the cooldown cannot. For example, a creature that has a shield ability that lastsa for 7 turns and a 5 turn cooldown, will always be that, no matter how many rerolls.

Same for another creature with the same ability that lasts for 4 turns with a 2 turn cooldown, also cant be changed

These 2 examples here

Neither can get the others cooldown/number of turns of the buff existing

So like this radioactive one, no matter how much I reroll the 5th move, the buff/debuff move will always be 7 turns, 5 turn cooldown no matter what

Which is kinda difficult in combat since thats a long cooldown

[haughty rapids]

here's my two pets ive actuall yleveled so far

[calm scaffold]

Ooooh that dessert one looks nice! Whats the cooldown like on the abilities if you know?

if its buff/debuff related, it will always last for either 4/5/6/7 turns, with a cooldown of 2/3/4/5

2/3 cooldown is good for 1 vs 1 battles with a player, 4/5 means youll have to switch the creature during fights sometimes since there will be moments will all 4 of your main moves will be on cooldown

[haughty rapids]

1 turn/2 turns/2 turns/2 turns

[haughty rapids]

isnt big cooldown insane for self sacrifice moves?

[calm scaffold]

Thats a good sign!

If a creature has a 4/5 cooldown on buffing/debuffing moves, it means that the main attacks (like the attack thats based on how high your agility is) will have a 2 cooldown instead of 1, which isnt good, basically meaning all of your moves have longer cooldowns, even basic things like cleansing the opponents buffs being 3 turn cooldown instead of 2 despite not being any stronger

So ideally you want to shorter cooldowns for your main fighters, and consider longer cooldowns more for creatures you plan to give a long 6/7 turn debuff to an opponent on, then switching to your other creature, as they're not great fighting on their own

[calm scaffold]

Oh the cooldown on sacrifice doesnt matter since you can only use it once, since you know, you kinda die when using it 😂

so that one doesnt matter

[haughty rapids]

oh sure but doesnt it also increase buff duration?

[calm scaffold]

I cant remember, though what I do know is there are 3 variants of it.

1. Buff combat effectiveness for team 6 turns
2. Buff defense by up to 100% for the team for 6 turns
3. Buff defense by up to 100% for the team for 8 turns (for some odd reason)

A creature can roll both variants of the defense sacrfice move for some reason, meaning you always want to go for the bottom option since the other option lasts less duration for no other benefit

weird I know

Overall the sacrifice moves need rebalancing anyway, 8 turns of 100% damage reduction for your 2 remaining creatures for 8 turns is insane, means the cleanse move is now mandatory instead of optional with no other counter

[haughty rapids]

yeah
and even if one is cleansed you can still swap

right?

[calm scaffold]

Pretty much, or cleanse can even miss the target too, especially if the creature that has 100% defense also has an accuracy debuffing move

in which case you're basically screwed

Though I know the game mode is new so they'll tweak things overtime I imagine, my main creatures dont use the move, feels too cheese, but I make sure 1 of my fighting creatures have the cleanse move incase someone tries to use it.

But lets say you sacrifice a creature and swap to a creature that has 100% defense now, heres what happens.

My turn - swap creature to one that can cleanse
Your turn - You hit me
My turn - I cleanse you
Your turn - You hit me again (possibly die to it)
My turn - ive taken too much damage for most shield options to be viable, so now I can only really attack or debuff you as my final mvoe before you kill me after hitting me twice

So yeah, cheesy

Plus you still have another creature with the buff

Its too strong and lasts too long in its current state

[haughty rapids]

also finally raised my tox pet

899 combat very funny
though 2/4/2/4 CDs are pain

[pliant zealot]

Thank you for sharing all of this information!
I've learned more in the last 15 minutes than I have in the last 15 days 🥳

May I ask where your getting all this info? Is there a web site or Discord I should know of?

Anyway, thank you very much for sharing!!

[calm scaffold]

Look at that sweet 899 combat! 😄 Im surprised its boosted health at just a meer 2m size too! Do you remember the coordinates of where the creature is? trying to experiment on my toxic creatures more

[haughty rapids]

https://old.reddit.com/r/NMSCoordinateExchange/comments/1sjha2u/sss_toxic_eissentam_yellow_system/

[calm scaffold]

A lot of it is just experience and pattern recognition1 Since ive done about 220+ battles with npcs and fought 60+ champion npcs and about 50ish battles against players now, so I kinda know the range of what the turn min/max limit is for buffs and debuffs, when to use certain moves, what moves counter certain strategies other players are setting up, etc!

Its only the sacrifical move that has only 1 counter unfortunately which is why its a bit unblanaced, so im hoping that gets tweaked to be shorter and weaker

[calm scaffold]

Oh its the butterfly one? I saw it on reddit but didnt go as I wasnt sure you could actually get it without mods, I can get it modless?

[haughty rapids]

pretty sure you can
they roost occasionally

[calm scaffold]

Oooooooh then ill have to make a pitstop

Whats the cooldown on Toxic Spit?

Gives me an idea on what the cooldown should be for the rest of its abilities

[haughty rapids]

2

the cds are 0/2/4/2/4

[calm scaffold]

Basically some moves have 4 tiers of cooldowns, cooldown of 2/3/4/5, but some moves only have 2 tiers of cooldowns, making it difficult to tell if its a tier 2/3/4/5 type creature

[calm scaffold]

2 turn cooldown? What does the move do?

[haughty rapids]

its uh
regular attack level damage + dot

[calm scaffold]

is the dot for 3 turns or 2?

[haughty rapids]

3 turns

[calm scaffold]

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[haughty rapids]

?

[calm scaffold]

That means its a long cooldown creature, either a tier3 or 4 type

so buffing/debuffing moves are gonna have long cooldowns, and your main attack has a cooldown of 2 instead of 1

[haughty rapids]

yeah as i said
the delayed damage move has a 4 cooldown

[calm scaffold]

Oh the big delayed attack is the only exceptional one really i think, thats always has a 3/4 cooldown which is fine, but your main attack you want it to be short and snappy, or youll find yourself in situations using the very top weak attack due to everything being on cooldown

Thats the issue with tier 3/4 creatures

Basically once you change that heal move to something else, like a barrier, absorbing shield, reflection shield, etc, it'll have a 4 cooldown,

So your creature is going to be...

0
2
4
4
4

Imagine using it to fight someone that has a...

0
1
2
2
2

bombarding you with their main moves constantly while you cant

Thats the issue

[prime gate]

This is where the reset move is golden. Especially with a reflective shield, as long as your opponent doesn't cleanse.

[calm scaffold]

They done an update yesterday where the cooldown ability can no longer cool itself down.

So say you use a shield, cooldown, annd another shield, and the opponent cleanses it, you're buggered as both are now on long cooldowns

Plus those 3 moves uses to set things up, your opponent has used 2 additional moves + the cleanse on top, its now a big disadvantage

[prime gate]

I'll need to check my strat again then... 👀🥸

Which is fine, I'm all for balancing things to keep it interesting.

[calm scaffold]

It just came out on pc since it was a little cheesy (assuming theyll be tweaking the sacrifice moves too probably) but yeah youll wanna adjust!

Basically id say, creatures with short cooldowns are ideal for 1 vs 1 scenario, creatures with long cooldowns are good for setting up long lasting debuffs to the opponent, doing a big attack, and then switching to another creature to let its moves go on cooldown while you can still fight

So if you prefer to not switching a lot midfight (sicne more switches = opponent getting free hits on you too)m, try to find creatures with shorter cooldowns on their attacks and buffing/debuffing moves. If the cooldown for buff/debuff moves is around 2/3, then you're good to go!

If its 4/5, then its the long cooldown creature type, and causes its main attacks to also have longer cooldowns too

Thats what ive learnt so far

Yeah im looking forward to anymore tweaks being made! So far my only gripes are the sacrificial moves being way too strong and lasting too long, and the 2nd move slot moves not being great except for the agility attack mainly.

Moves that boost dodge chance seem extremeelyweak too as i constantly hit opponents that use a 100% dodge chance move, only to get hit anyway, so that might be bugged.

Only other thing is id love to know beforehand if the creature is a short/long cooldown type before I adopt it just to save me time.

Ugh, such high combat! If only it wasnt for the agility

the search continues

Wow another, same planet, highcombat and amazign agility, but the health ughhhhh

[shadow galleon]

Has anyone seen fire-element flutters? o; I've been hunting them but I don't even know if they can be fire types?

[calm scaffold]

What does a flutter look like?

[shadow galleon]

Any of the butterfly looking species. Let me find some pics.

[calm scaffold]

Oh I think I did a couple days ago, but awful stats and grades, like CCB

dont think ill know the coordinates of it sadly

[shadow galleon]

It's ok! I'm glad to know someone's at least seen some. lol keeps the hunt alive then.

[calm scaffold]

Yeah think theyre rare

just like these darn sss radioactive creatures ughhhh

[shadow galleon]

You got this, you'll find one!

[calm scaffold]

@pliant zealot Found something!

[haughty rapids]

my current radioactive creature is SBS sadly

[calm scaffold]

ASS Radiation, A in combat though high bar, agility and health high, and the important part, short cooldowns! Buffing/debuffing is a 3 turn cooldown instead of 4/5, and attacks are also short cooldowns!

Looks interesting too!

Incase you want to share it with the community

[haughty rapids]

is there any way to reorder your pets without using a save editor?

[calm scaffold]

Not that I know of, im only on base game 😄

Ooooh looks good as a mature one

Very cool back too

Ima hold it incase a patch comes out one day where a grade can be changed as it has great cooldowns and very high agility

@shadow galleon ^^^ found an interesting and high grade creature incase it interests too, really like its looks and colours

Whoaaaaaaa, I wish I could get this!!!!

[shadow galleon]

Ooooo! Super nice fiiiind! ❤️

[calm scaffold]

Yeeeee, I mean i think some modders can have certain fish like this as their companion

so theyd probably love this one

[shadow galleon]

Those fish are always cool to look at! All the ones I find though are always zig-zagging into the sand, so I can't ever see them fully in the natural environment. I always gotta view em from that menu.

[uneven mirage]

I guess get an egg from each, let go of your current creatures, hatch the eggs in the order you want, and then rename them to the same name

[calm scaffold]

Yeah they're speedy bois

[haughty rapids]

and then re-level-grind
oof

[calm scaffold]

and then redo when you delete a creature again after finding a better variant

thus restarting the order 😄

I wouldnt fuss about it, im sure a patch will come to address it

[haughty rapids]

im on pc so ill just use a save editor for it

[uneven mirage]

Luckily, 1 match against a champion or a challenging fight against oceanus levels them up from alpha to lvl 27 or 28 in 1 go

[pliant zealot]

We know Max Combat level is 900.
Do we know what Max Health and Agility are?

[calm scaffold]

You mean 900 for combat? Since I have a creature at 899

Or do you mean at the very base value max?

I believe s class max agility, max level is 420 (my current max ive found is 419)

[pliant zealot]

Health?

[calm scaffold]

Health im not to sure of, though my guess is probably around 4200, as ive had one at 4050, and there was still a small gap on the hp bar

so its probably around 4200, but cant tell for sure

[pliant zealot]

Thank you very much for your time and help 😁

[calm scaffold]

😄

[fast moth]

Some of the underground creature are extremely hard to find. :/ They're like not spawning inside caves. Is it just me or anyone else experiecing this?

througout my explorations the last animals are always the underground creatures and I got several planets that are almost fully explored, but one last underground creature is always left.

[pliant zealot]

I don't do Undergrounds anymore.
Find a cave then the pet 👿

[fast moth]

yeah feels kinda tedious to be honest, trying to find SSS class creatures and those pesky underground ones are playing hide and seek

[pliant zealot]

Even the Common ones don't seem to be in all caves

[fast moth]

Sure yeah it doesn't matter what class..just saying that lately I'm enjoying exploring fauna in thr hope of finding sss class and the underground fauna is just messed up. :/

I'm pretty sure their spawning is somewhat bugged. I usually try save-reload technique or just fly somewhere else on the planet ..etc none of them seem to work though. A sort of tracking mechanic would be nice. Like "hunting". Lures and following footprints etc ..would make the system a little deeper

[pliant zealot]

Those are great ideas!

[fast moth]

I don't know if it's allowed to mentiom but Warframe has got a nice hunting gameplay with mechanics like I've mentined.

[raw mantle]

You guys find fauna in caves??

[fast moth]

It's possible and yes I just found another one that was missing for the completion reward. just saying that underground fauna is hard to find. Buggy spawn or low spawn rate

[vivid coyote]

Best trick for this is to find a building. Then use your BEACON device to find another building. That building will be far enough from the first that it'll have a different selection of critters around it. NOTE that buildings USUALLY have cave terrain nearby. If not, then try the buildings either further north or further south (same way you check for "usually found in the north" creatures. Sometimes the creature IS zonelocked, even if the game doesn't lsit it that way.

By the third building, you shoudl be at a minor settlement, and should be able to find the last critter.

In systems with no buildings, fight sentinels instead.

By the time you're done with the sentinels, all possible nearby spawns should be active.

[quiet apex]

Toxic Arena

[quick thorn]

Can you tame the building-botcritters?

[heavy mortar]

you mean the big walking buildings that are listed as fauna? yes

but I think they need ion batteries, not creature treats

[quick thorn]

Splendid

[cedar seal]

Anyone have coords for cool flying creatures to ride? Getting tired of just seeing beetles

[midnight pagoda]

i didnt know that fauna marked as extinct can still be found

[shadow galleon]

I mentioned it earlier today and I finally find my fire butterflies. T-T They're only B, though (ACC), but they are fire and butterflies. lol

[lusty fractal]

If anyone is interested, Galactic Hub is hosting a Pokesean tournament on Saturday (25th) at 4pm est. Dm for details or check out rules on their server

[cedar seal]

Oh that guy is pretty neat. What's the coords? Is it in Euclid?

[flint spire]

New find if u guys want

[last zodiac]

Underground creaturee

[shadow galleon]

Unfortunately, not in Euclid. >: But here's the coords in case you still wanna journey over for one! https://gyazo.com/d27940336459b972cb92d4e95ca9b636

[cedar seal]

Oh wow never heard of that galaxy

[mellow sparrow]

Behold! My blob collection

All hail the blob

[uneven mirage]

What am I missing? Everything I have tried says it increases the size here (including items that should otherwise decrease the size). The creature is 0.3m but I don't think that's the limit is it?

[shell peak]

That's a nice one

[vivid coyote]

Tritium

and maybe evn sec venom? there were some weird thigns that worked.

[uneven mirage]

Nope, tried over 50 different things, all of them increase the size

[vivid coyote]

tritium didnt work? then you may have hit the lowest limit for that species

[uneven mirage]

Is the limit different for different species?

[vivid coyote]

yes

[uneven mirage]

Ah, that would make sense then

[unreal dawn]

Has anyone figured out in which biome the squid lays its eggs? (I've already visited various “unusual” biomes)

[vivid coyote]

I havent got one yet, but "unusual" most often means that you need a glitch planet (look for planets that list GOLD as a ressource) or any of the other anomalous types. I would first try the above, but you can also try places like "lost green globe" and "winedark" which are quite often found in green (emeril) systems.

[fast moth]

So I 've collected around 120 000 nanite by completing fauna explorations on different planets in various systems..red, blue, purple abandoned etc.. I found only one!! SSS class pet. What are the key factors to find more? Does anyone have any research on that?

[shell peak]

Keep looking

I think I've found a total of 4 myself now, across not that many nanites but dedicated hunting

3 or 4

[fast moth]

ok, cool that's what I'll do I guess.. 😉

[shell peak]

ive probably earned 60k nanites or so from creature hunting. I dont always get the full system bonus because sometimes certain ones dont appear after several minutes of hunting. Primarily underground ones

i think its a volume game though. More creatures seen, more SSS found

and it will average out over time

[fickle oracle]

My very first Perfect Hatchling! 😍

[obtuse summit]

Is it SSS and is its element desert by chance ?

[obtuse summit]

Very cool ! You got every element and each of them is SSS ?

[lusty fractal]

Congratulations to you and your new baby creature

[pliant zealot]

I am having the same problem.
I've check the planets with gold and only 1 pet. Those didn't work for me.
I've tried Anomalous planets with the same result.

If you get an answer could you please ping me?

[jagged plaza]

I know i managed to get my unusual biome companion to lay an egg. Pretty sure i just went to where i got it from.

[pliant zealot]

It's a Reward egg, Boundary Horror. It's Biome is Unusual.
I have other pets whose Biome is Unusual. I can't induce an egg from it on any of those planets either.

[fast moth]

That's cool. But seem like your rate is better than mine. 😄 Do you aim for specific systems? Or you're saying it's all random and there is no particular pattern just keep searching?

[unreal dawn]

If I find any info, I'll let you know, but I think it's either a bug or it'll be in a very specific biome

[obsidian totem]

Same problem here haha looking everywhere

[pliant zealot]

I am thinking it's bugged, Even Reddit can't figure it out

[vivid coyote]

in that case, chances are good that it's broken right now / they recently had issues with mech eggs, so this wouldn't be a surprise really

the expedition WORM pet used to work on glitch planets.

im not sure if it still does, but if not, then that's pretty good proof it's a bug atm

[obsidian totem]

The geno-prawn can lay eggs from what I’ve tried so far

[vivid coyote]

what planet does it work on?

[obsidian totem]

I used a fiery planet, it’s biome is scorched

Managed with this also

[unreal dawn]

I submitted a bug report, just in case it really is a bug (for the boundary horror pet (the squid))

[shell peak]

Nothing intentionally special. Trying to see a variety of star types

[unreal dawn]

I found someone on Reddit who claims to have done it on a planet with robotic fauna. I asked them for details, and I'll post an update when they get back to me

[lament iron]

Are there any restrictions to what can be tamed? i try to tame a nice looking sea shark but i cant

[tranquil zephyr]

many creatures are unavailable in vanilla
have to use companion pet unlocker mod to tame anything that isn't

[lament iron]

And what abaout the arena fights? should i be looking more for combat effectivnes or agility?

f.e it will be better oto use C cobat eff and S agility or lets say both B

[vivid coyote]

most high flyers and sea creatures and burrowers cannot be tamed. Simply put there's a new "pet scanner" option on your visor overlay, and if you don't get stats showing when scanning with that, you cannot tame it.

[lament iron]

does the stats generate per species or are hey individual?

[vivid coyote]

every individual of the same species will have the same final stat values

the skillset may vary if you edit the egg, but not the stats.

[lament iron]

its a shame, the prettiest one have the worst stats :/

[vivid coyote]

sometimes, yes.

[lusty torrent]

can you share the coords of that planet? i need a tree like the one in your picture, I build a neon city cyberpunk style and those trees will rock in my aestethics

[vivid coyote]

we have those trees available to build - you can learn the blueprint from the quicksilver vendor

[lusty torrent]

i mean this one

[vivid coyote]

yes

[lusty torrent]

are u sure?

i got all of them

wanna check

thanks!

[vivid coyote]

in fact there are two variants avaiulable

the solo and the twined

[lusty torrent]

will check them out

thanks for the info!

[fallow arrow]

Not certain this is the right channel, but does anyone have a spare flyer egg they don't need....? I desperately want a cool dragonlike pet but they're all untameable :C

[vivid coyote]

there are a few people who have save edited flyers. Best place to ask is in #nms-lfg-or-trades channel, but be patient.

[fallow arrow]

thank ye!

[last zodiac]

sure

[oblique crag]

offspring just hatched

[mellow sparrow]

Only one had SS and the elements I have are anomalous tropical fire and frost

[neon topaz]

Theys looks funny 😄

[calm scaffold]

Anyone have any of Oceanus's creatures from his eggs? If so, I noticed when mutating those creatures moves, it just swaps to the default attack every time, unable to learn any other move, anyone else got a fix ofr this? Or is this meant to be this way?

Makes it underwhelming to get those 5 special creatures to me

[tranquil zephyr]

They have curated movesets with explicitly specified values
But obv being curated doesn't make them good
Trying to swap any of the moves will just swap to basic attack then back to the curated one for that slot, is HG's solution because before it would just crash the game

[calm scaffold]

Hmm I'm hoping it's just temporary, find the moves bad, or have very log cooldowns

Like one of them has a shield ability thats has a 5 turn cooldown, when my other creature does the same thing in 2 turns 🙁

[tranquil zephyr]

It's not temporary
In game files they have explicitly set those creatures to have those movesets, cooldowns and all
So unless they decide to do a balance patch for a mode that got not a lot of reception, it isn't going to change

[calm scaffold]

Oh i mean there isnt going to be a future patch to be able to mutate the moves properly like all other creatures? Other wise I dont really have much reason in using them

[tranquil zephyr]

They are literally coded to only be able to use those 5 moves, they would've made that a thing when they fixed the crashing if they were actually going to enable that
I don't know what to tell you other than HG made them curated and it is very unlikely to change

[calm scaffold]

ah that's a shame

[tranquil zephyr]

in game files they even have ID names based off these movesets, like geno prawn is DOT_BOMBER (DoT = damage over time)
so not likely to change

[calm scaffold]

Ah welp

Back to finding other mechanic creatures with good stats

[vivid coyote]

I don't see the dragon-fly winged ones very often.

[ebon badge]

Could someone answer some questions I have about ocean pets?
Are the abilities exclusive?
If I change them, is it possible to revert to them?
Are they the same for everyone?
If the abilities are exclusive, does changing them create other exclusive abilities?

[tranquil zephyr]

Oceanus milestone pets have curated moves, they can't be changed to anything else
They're just the same moves as normal pets have but instead in different slots and different values
Attempting to change them will just cycle the move into the basic move and then back to the curated version
Yes they're the same for everyone

[ebon badge]

Okay, thank you very much!

[quiet apex]

Anomalous Arena

[lusty torrent]

i managed to achieve something similar without external tools

you need just a table, took some measures about the height, scale all the decorations and then, move the base arena

this way, you can build the arena and then, just replace the table with the arena

[quiet apex]

Imagination had no limits. Thats so awsome man! I used blender to scale it down but i built it in game aswell.

[lusty torrent]

🫂

its all thanks to you

you bring the idea

thank you

[quiet apex]

@ me when u post ur arena builds man keep it up! Thank u too my man

[lusty torrent]

sure! this was just for testing, i will try to ahieve all biomes and will ping you here

[lusty torrent]

@quiet apex protip, you can add stickers on the sides and looks really cool!

im currently working on my battle arena side corner

im trying miniamlist decorations on the arena and i like it a lot

[noble dew]

If anyone finds a decent Dino or bipedal lizard on a gamma/radioactive planet, can someone at me? I’m really really wanting to make a Godzilla-esque creature, so something with any of these body types would be awesome (I can try to mutate the rest of the rest on)
Anyway, some kind of two-legged, radioactive lizard would be awesome!

[lusty torrent]

sure! nice sketches!

[lusty torrent]

@noble dew i found this on reddit

head, tail, legs and arms are like ur sketch i guess

[noble dew]

Is it from a radioactive/gamma planet? That’s probably the most important part as to get the right moveset

[lusty torrent]

oh no, its tropical

🙁

[noble dew]

It is cool though, may be good to have something to practice with for mutations (idk how to save edit, and I don’t think a MacBook or steam deck would be able to do so😅)

[lusty torrent]

im 99% sure you can do that on steam deck