nms-fauna

[stray pivot]

I'll go there in a minute and check it out

[silent narwhal]

I have no clue, that's weird
Maybe updates changed stuff? It was a year since I discovered that planet, after all

[honest delta]

Sure, I've heard of rocks being added to planets...
But for the whole planet to be... Replaced? Feels weird.

[silent narwhal]

I should still have one of the creatures I found there as a pet, if you want me to get an egg or something next time I play NMS

[honest delta]

Do you have the one on the left? The orange accents match my ship better lol

[silent narwhal]

I think that's the one I chose to tame?

I'll have to reinstall and check tomorrow, sorry

[honest delta]

unless Raiyu finds out what's going on, I'd like an egg please

[honest delta]

Thank you

[silent narwhal]

We can take this to dms when I do check, so as not to flood this channel

[honest delta]

Should I send you a friend request?

[silent narwhal]

Sent to you

[stray pivot]

Ah, I figured it out. You're in the wrong galaxy for those Glyphs. You need Nepitzaspru 😉

[honest delta]

ah.

I'm not going there lol

I think I might've found a good colour - gonna test it

[stray pivot]

Why not? It's an amazing galaxy, the final lush one, can't go wrong surely

It's my favourite by far

[honest delta]

Got it.
Me, my ship, and my robot antelope all match.

[stray robin]

Gooooood lord why is he so giant.

[honest delta]

wiggled this slider around for a while when i was making the pre-gene editing version

[honest delta]

anyway if you wanna import it yourself here's the .json

[honest delta]

wh- what pronouns go along with the gender of 'radical'

anyway.

it's really fun to ride rad around cuz rads so fast

and i have a friend whos just starting out so i can gallop in the distance around her

[patent sonnet]

Only found one SSS today, but also found a gazillion ASS ones

[lone bane]

Who needed the mecha mouse again?

[tranquil zephyr]

looks like they left the server 💀

[lone bane]

gulp..

[quasi thunder]

Is there a way to upgrade creature IVs
Like with egg sequencing or something

[tranquil zephyr]

if you change the height/weight it will change the agility / hp stats verrrry slightly
but if you're playing other real people with SSS pets then it can make a different in the turn order
smaller = faster, but different species have different limits for how small they can go
no way to change the class stats as of now

[quasi thunder]

Oh ok thanks

[tranquil zephyr]

made this to catalogue moves, ones that are similar are color coded
they're divided by the slot they can appear in, it's consistent except with the milestone pets which can't be changed at all anyways
missing the multi turn dodge that corrupted quad can get, and if you have a ss of a pet with it lmk
also if there are any other buffs the self destruct move has lmk as well

[scarlet cipher]

Does anyone know how many arena battles and champion battles need to be won for the reward companions?

[tranquil zephyr]

not sure abt total arena wins (somewhere in the 200-250 range I think)
champions is 60

[scarlet cipher]

Wouldn’t it be 300 arena wins then? You get a champion battle every 5?

[tranquil zephyr]

each milestone has 9 ranks and at a point champions starts going up by 10 instead
arena wins at a point starts going up by 25, Im not to rank 7 yet which is when you get the next set of titles
the first few ranks are like 1, 3, 5 so it's not completely consistent ig

[scarlet cipher]

I mean don’t you get a champion invite after 5 normal arena wins?

[tranquil zephyr]

you get the champion invite item after 3 wins iirc

but I don't care about duping so I just duped it and did it that way
it's faster since you don't ever have to fly anywhere, and you can do the rest of the arena wins on the same npc in a station

[scarlet cipher]

Well I’m at 30ish champion and 140ish normals.

I did do some extra normals without an invite but maybe like 10ish

[tranquil zephyr]

Im working on doing regulars now, only just hit 100 tho
but I took a break to do a little fun tournament for this so
and the champions do take a while

[scarlet cipher]

I bet your right about 250

[tranquil zephyr]

unless it starts going up by 50 (plz no) then yeah around that

[scarlet cipher]

I’m almost at 150 I’ll get to that before bed and see

[tranquil zephyr]

you'll have to see if you get the title for 7/8/9 of the milestone, that's when you know you're close
unless you already have the lvl 7 one? hard to keep track of which lvl we're on when it doesn't show the previous milestone steps

[scarlet cipher]

Where do you see them at?

[tranquil zephyr]

in an appearance modifier, then banner > title
then just go left cause they're on the last pages

[scarlet cipher]

Ok I’ll check

I reached rank 7

So 150 is rank 8

[tranquil zephyr]

oh nice, so r9 is either 175 or 200

let's hope it's the former...

[scarlet cipher]

So champions is 60? Cause I’m at 31 and I’m rank 7

[unreal dawn]

What is this type of fauna called?

[tranquil zephyr]

lemme check the title after Im out of this battle
but it is 60

[patent sonnet]

Bonecat

They always count as Tropical, from my observation

which is a bit weird, maybe they were trying to target Plantcats instead (those are also always Tropical, but it makes sense due to their floral theme)

[tranquil zephyr]

actually, the last title for each might be rank 10
my brain probably just assumed it was 9 since the previous two are r7/8

so total arena wins is 200

[scarlet cipher]

Yea that’s what I’m thinking

Found a blue squid not long ago doing them lol

[woeful depot]

Anyone find a creature similar to this one

[patent sonnet]

I've found a few

[woeful depot]

❤️

[sharp summit]

Any SSS Trex?

[unreal dawn]

ty

[raw zodiac]

95% of the best fighting species are gonna be cows, antelopes, or rodents simply by spawn odds alone.

Anyway ridiculously high health and combat cow with decent agility

[scarlet cipher]

It goes up by 30 once you hit 150

[scarlet cipher]

Also you were right it is every 3 fights gets you a champion fight

I didn’t realize the champion fight adds a count to the normals also

[tranquil zephyr]

ah yeah that's right

just hit 150 total wins now

[scarlet cipher]

You fast

[tranquil zephyr]

my pets are op lol

I've used only 1 of 3 the entire time

[scarlet cipher]

Flying / training the lower pets does slow u a lot

[tranquil zephyr]

oh yeah fs

[junior mason]

I’m a galactic champion off of only using three types

The squid you get is op for the agility moves

[tranquil zephyr]

it's better against actual ppl with SSS pets tho
cause the npcs will literally never be faster than it so you cant flip the turn order as a strat unless you lead a slow pet and die with it

[junior mason]

Fighting real people counts towards the crest too

[tranquil zephyr]

I know, but the chances of getting ppl to queue is way harder than just beating the same npc a billion times

[scarlet cipher]

Which one is squid from?

[tranquil zephyr]

apex companions milestone

[junior mason]

You gotta power up to the max on abunch of them

[tranquil zephyr]

I guess now you do, but towards the beginning everyone was low lvl af

[scarlet cipher]

Cool. I got 2 more to max out for that

[tranquil zephyr]

would be nice if local time forwarding let us get the Oceanus one done faster, but I'm not that annoyed that it's truly time gated

hmm
now to do 30 more wins or go to sleep, that is the question...

[scarlet cipher]

Just something else to do with quick silver missions

[tranquil zephyr]

wdym

[scarlet cipher]

Like go fight him after my daily mission

[unreal dawn]

Sadly, I was looking for one with a desert or fire type because it suits him so well, but I guess that's not possible

[tranquil zephyr]

ah I see

[gilded adder]

Meet Trex-chan, comes with bunny ears, fangs and colorful tail.

[shadow galleon]

O: I love them

[lone lance]

Heya! Thanks so much, found a similar one (and never found another) but it is only B. I absolutely love them though so I‘m gonna get this one 😂

[supple ice]

this ability doesn't make any sense, 3 turns for mediocre damage, and the absurd thing about this is that the turn 2 big combat effectiveness is actually removed before turn 3 damage takes place. and if your opponent has a cleanse you basically lose the first upgrade too.

[tranquil zephyr]

most of the abilities are bad, only really a few actually worth using imo

[tranquil zephyr]

actually missing the reflect set amount of dmg in this just realized

[supple ice]

yeah but this one is absolute disaster, like, turn 2 is basically wasted completely because by turn 3 it's gone, and if you lucky you're only left with 12% addition

[tranquil zephyr]

not all moves can be good ig

[supple ice]

yeah but who thought about this one? it's literally broken

[tranquil zephyr]

oh yeah that's actually true
sorry my brain's asleep just been spamming the same npc battle for 3 hrs

[supple ice]

yeah I have to grind this creature too just to re-roll the ability

[tranquil zephyr]

another factor is that I'm also using instant actions mod so clicking an attack is faster, just a minor boost in ease of use :3

[unreal dawn]

Is it possible to swap out the head of a beetle in the Egg Sequencer? I want to replace the one I have with a Hercules head

[patent sonnet]

Kinda, by placing material in the Gene Splicer slot and hoping the randomization goes in your favor

[scarlet cipher]

I plain on steam with controller and the clicks to lvl up your companion are extremely slow. It’s like two or 3 times faster if I use the mouse for that. I don’t get it lol

[tranquil zephyr]

that's so weird lol
also just hit 170 wins

[scarlet cipher]

Ping me and Let me know what the final amount will be if u don’t mind. I’ll probably fall asleep but I’m curious

[tranquil zephyr]

should only be like 15min or so
5 left now til 180

[brave spire]

It actually need to hit 220 wins😢

[tranquil zephyr]

yep I see that now

[tranquil zephyr]

time to sleep!!

[raw zodiac]

Bruh unless this is somehow a perfect match for resources in the gene splicer I have no idea how this could have happened.

Same exact anatomy. Only difference is patterns and color

I knew the game needed a wider variety of bases and parts for the fauna but this is... 😅

[nimble basalt]

Does anyone have advice to discover underground fauna faster? I can never completely scan a planets fauna because the underground creatures are so difficult to find

[quiet sluice]

i need that omg

[normal dew]

Any1 know what's this fauna type or where can we find it?

[supple ice]

it's synthetic fauna, you can find these in abandonned systems on planets where fauna is marked "synthetic", if you have a freighter you can build scanner room and quickly check the fauna type without visiting each planet.

look left bottom where it says "fauna synthetic", usually it's 4 types of them on every planet

*uncharted systems, not abandonned, systems without any race

[tribal coral]

Cant tame this specific one. U can get it for one of exo arena leage milestones.

[noble dew]

You are quite welcome! I was just going through my old creature posts, this happened to be the best so far. Apparently there’s a variant with fuzzy legs and an uncurled tail

[lone lance]

Ooooh! Would be nice to find that, too. Found mine four years ago and didn’t find a second one in +600hrs

[vagrant crystal]

i want a quad bet any one have it ?

[sullen cipher]

Toxic in Galaxy 42

[tepid drift]

What did you find it?

[fierce knot]

Anyone find any SSS fire fauna?

[paper ember]

Has anyone found s class spider/bug fauna

[sullen cipher]

Tropical in Galaxy 43

[radiant meteor]

skeleton cretures?? are those possible?

where can i find 1 of these?

like the planet type

[sullen cipher]

I managed to find this once. Don't remember what type of planet it was from

Verdant climate.

@lethal heart You have any planet with those?

[paper ember]

I think there usually found on relic worlds

[radiant meteor]

oh ty

[toxic flame]

bone

[tribal coral]

There is only one variant . Most common in purple systems

[lethal heart]

Yea I have these in my purple system

I have them right next to one of my mining facilities there is like 30 of them running around

[ancient orbit]

i wish they would add 2 things..

a speed up option for the turns.

and showing the creature stats somewhere on this page.

[fair bloom]

any one found Vine plant creature with flower head?

[serene spear]

Egg expert was like 35 I'm assuming? Do we know how many times we need to beat Oceanus for Level 10 / Grandmaster?

[prime gate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1491850146013642895/1492866350736080997/IMG_7201.png?ex=69dce3a2&is=69db9222&hm=66a355588414ccba4f095cb7997e401c81aa7324124e2069c0de05224cf74d38&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1491850146013642895/1492866350261993612/IMG_7200.png?ex=69dce3a2&is=69db9222&hm=b83ba28dfaf257ddb325557c9af4e55707aa1bfe52a8e717b4d3c1408aa08e08&

[pliant zealot]

Does anyone know where to get the Oceanus reward creature, Stemito-Zawie to spawn their egg?

I thought it was an infested planet but it looks like i was wrong

[tranquil zephyr]

egg hatching is 30

[prime gate]

Sounds like most cant do eggs.

[serene spear]

Thanks!!

[tranquil zephyr]

you have to put the actual egg name (or a screenshot of the pet/name of milestone) for us to know what it is not the random generated one
so far only aeron crab has been able to lay eggs for me

[pliant zealot]

I don't know what the eggs name is as I can't get the creature to spawn on as I can't find the correct planet type.

It's a reward egg from Oceans that I already cracked.
The new creatures name is Stemito-Zawie and it is a Spectral Anomaly species

[topaz dawn]

Can you post a picture of it?

[tranquil zephyr]

which of these is it

[pliant zealot]

The squid, second from last in the pic.
Thank you very much for yoyr help!

[tranquil zephyr]

hasn't been able to lay eggs
probably bugged

[pliant zealot]

Mine is ready to. Hint says I'm on the incorrect planet type

[mild cliff]

Found this lil dude made of crystals

[tranquil zephyr]

yeah I know
I've been to the correct planet type and still says incorrect

[pliant zealot]

Ahhh, thank you again for you help!

[stark zinc]

dae always make sure to feed and pet a creature on adoption so that even if you immediately abandon it because it isn't the stats you want it's still happier

[haughty rapids]

do i need to worry about using flying/digging/swimming animals in online battles btw?

[tranquil zephyr]

they function the exact same as any other creature

[frosty tundra]

Does stat class on a pet impact potential or can you technically max out smth with worse stats?

[tranquil zephyr]

an AAA will always be worse than SSS at same lvl

[frosty tundra]

Ig other question can you upgrade stat class?

Damn

[paper ember]

Probably in a couple years

[frosty tundra]

That's a bit of a shame I'd love to use some of the real fucked up critters I find

[tranquil zephyr]

yeah it would be nice if there was some way to do it
even a very high amt of nanites to upgrade it would still be fine

[haughty rapids]

i think thats what breeding is for, isnt it?

[tranquil zephyr]

you cant upgrade class stats thru breeding

[frosty tundra]

Idk how breeding works tbh

[paper ember]

I dont belive you can get an s class from an A class creature

[tranquil zephyr]

the only real thing you can influence thru breeding for xeno arena is height/weight stat which verrry slightly affects agility/hp stats

[tranquil zephyr]

it says "cant"

[haughty rapids]

cant you breed for attacks or something?

[tranquil zephyr]

you cycle the attacks after the pet hits lvl 30
it's random but there's a set list of them per slot

[haughty rapids]

ah. so stats are the only thing that matters

?

[tranquil zephyr]

basically

[haughty rapids]

and type

[frosty tundra]

Yeah I plan on going for SSS of every type

I haven't gotten any yet but I have SS and an A for mechanical and tropical

[haughty rapids]

are all S rank pets the same?

[tranquil zephyr]

no
minor stat differences which really matters because agility determines the turn order

[haughty rapids]

this is the best i got so far

[paper ember]

You really want an ss or sss of every type i guess you can use a class against npcs but against other players youll want sss/ss

[frosty tundra]

Does anyone know if the typing of the glowing nerve creatures & the plant things are always one thing or do they vary?

I haven't seen a plant thing yet so idk what theyre supposed to be

[paper ember]

Also if anyone finds ss or sss creatures like this can you send me the coords please

[haughty rapids]

omg spooder

[woeful depot]

Anyone found this creature yet

[haughty rapids]

bad stats sadly but
found a cute pet

[solemn knoll]

Nursery being so active is so nice

Diplos better be God Tier on this Pokémon thing!

[tranquil zephyr]

9500 dmg on an npc

[paper ember]

Well my home systems overrun with vilebrood creatures lets hope 1 is an sss😭

First bug i scanned lol

[lone lance]

How many gene upgrades will a pellet give?

[paper ember]

1 so you need 30 pellets to max a pet level more than 30 if u wanna change its abilitys

[lone lance]

Sounds like a scam

But thanks

[tranquil zephyr]

they made leveling insanely slow

[regal goblet]

my first sss creature

[lone lance]

I think its ok. But having to do it all again if you decide to breed them … idk

[tranquil zephyr]

it also takes a level every time you cycle an ability, and it's completely random which ability you get
you can literally get the same ability 5 times in a row

[prime gate]

I... do I want to know how you know you can get an ability five times in a row...? 😅

[rose rock]

Have we found out if we can turn an A tier into an S tier creature?

[molten lily]

you cannot

[tranquil zephyr]

when you reroll an ability with gene edit points it can cycle into anything in that slot, so it can literally hit the same ability 5 times in a row effectively wasting 5 gene edit points

[rose rock]

Do they share cooldowns?

[tranquil zephyr]

I'm not talking about being able to get the same ability in multiple slots, that's not a thing
when you reach level 30, you can cycle the moves with gene edit points, but it cycles it randomly

[rose rock]

Ahh okay.

[prime gate]

Well, there's pros and cons to this. Does make it more gamey though, less mechanistic.

[tranquil zephyr]

4/5!
oh and nice it's letting me do a 5th Oceanus battle now for some reason

pic reupload, only went up by 2 still

[mild cliff]

Found this massive bug in the middle of a forest fire

[tranquil zephyr]

oh ffs it's another mechanical one

[rose rock]

Do the white bars next to tier do anything?

[tranquil zephyr]

well they kind of show you the stat of that category but it won't tell you the actual value until you put it into a match

[tribal coral]

Well. U have to do 250 fights for milestone and pet reward from oceanus.

[tranquil zephyr]

that doesn't mean anything if you want to use new creatures, the level doesn't carry over lol
also it's 220 wins

[lime scarab]

Hi… I’m a console player in NMS I need help catching this cute bird but in black color like 🐦‍⬛ crow. 🥲🙏🏼

[tribal coral]

Cant

Only low flying animals are tameable

[upbeat latch]

I somehow missed this was SSA rather than SSS until I went through the portal. I do need to set up a Parrafinium mining base though and there's an 80% A Class node very near by. I'm going to setup a small base there, but please let me know if it causes you any issues

[tranquil zephyr]

ok so the wandering shrimp tank pet has fallen victim to the same bug as the mecha mouse, it can lay an egg but you can't pick it up...

so as of now only the aeron crab can actually give eggs

[tepid drift]

Anyone know the best place to find grunt fauna?

[rose rock]

Dont think they have any particular place.

[sullen cipher]

Frost in Galaxy 45

[haughty rapids]

is finding an SSS just a grind or is there any ways to speed it up?

going from planet to planet and taming/releasing one of every species is getting monotonous

[steel plover]

Does anyone have any cool flying companion eggs from untamables? Dragon, worm etc..? That you could donate to me please

[half mesa]

best statted flowerdog ive found so far. haha it says ass (purple system, multiple flowerdog species)

[surreal juniper]

looking for big 10M Wrom egg please.

[rose rock]

Rumor that pink systems have slightly higher chance, and rarer spawns also have higher chance.. but Ive yet to find this to be a large difference. I think its just a grind.

[fickle oracle]

What galaxy and portal code please, love the style?

[tranquil zephyr]

it's the milestone creature for completing 220 total arena wins, you get it from Oceanus

[wise moon]

portal for this one? never saw a robo spider before

[wise moon]

ah, i was doing that too BUT now you can actually use the last mode of the scanner and it shows you the pet grades without taming

[tranquil zephyr]

Oceanus milestone reward
220 total arena wins

[wise moon]

thamkies

[tranquil zephyr]

gl

[fickle oracle]

What! Jeez thanks for info that'll save time.

[wise moon]

imagine my surprise when i noticed new widget icon after doing the catch>check>release method for like 5 hours on day one 😏

[fickle oracle]

At least you noticed

[merry yacht]

whats the biggest robot yall seen?

[wise moon]

Omnicron in transformers cartoon 😊

(dont ban me pls)

[obtuse summit]

what do you mean tame and release? You just need to scan them with new visor mode ? Unless you want to check their skills too

[cedar bough]

Xeno Arena Matchups

[prime gate]

Needs portal coords

[obtuse summit]

go to the reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/NMSCoordinateExchange/

And i do also have a scorpion tail looking one ice element SSS but i had it prior xeno update so i don't know the coord, if someone know how to find one of our pet original plante coord i can give them to you

this one, don't know the coord sadly, if anyone know how i can find them...

[main whale]

I dont know about black, I'd have to look up what materials give that color but I have a bird that's similar - was given to me as an egg by another player. Waiting for it to mature rn to get an egg, dunno how long that'll be tho

It is HUGE and lets me fly across the surface of planets so fast. Downside, it despawns if im not quick enough bc it just goes VROOM right off summon

Today I discovered the mecha mouse can turn into an atlantid head through the gene splicer
for stats too

[wise moon]

look for it in the Catalogue > Wonders > Fauna, find it and hover over it, it will show the portal address

[molten lily]

what if it's not in the list of fauna records

[rose rock]

Then youre out of luck.

[wise moon]

ye, tough luck, think the records only save the tallest, smartest, etc. 😔

[tribal coral]

Discoveries tab and sesrch systems 1 by 1

[molten lily]

awful

[tranquil zephyr]

fancy seeing you here... xD

[molten lily]

yes as the first xeno battles champion for the galactic hub it is only natural that i be lurking in the nursery for any SSS beetles

[pliant trail]

Hey hello there, is it true that SS creatures have higher stats in their respective areas than SSS creatures? I read it off somewhere and I thought I'd confirm

Apparently SSS tend to be more all rounders?

[tranquil zephyr]

haven't seen any evidence of that

[pliant trail]

Hmm okay I think I just read bollocks then

[tribal coral]

I dont think SS will get higher

[pliant trail]

Goddamn

I love the nickname

[tranquil zephyr]

yeah, plus even if that was the case you would be sacrificing a stat, and it's just not optimal to do that for any of the 3

[pliant trail]

Yeah definitely

Thank you!

I'm so pumped to get more into these mechanics

[tranquil zephyr]

you can influence the agility/hp stat verrrry slightly as it says in game by changing height/weight in egg sequencer tho
different species have different boundaries for how large and small they can go tho
smaller = more agility less hp

[pliant trail]

I also took a screenshot of this, seems handy!
(Credit to Scottish Rod on YouTube)

[pliant trail]

Ah just in time

Interesting

[tranquil zephyr]

I havent paid enough attention to what each one does when battling
although I can sort of remember lemme check

[pliant trail]

Oo let's see

[tranquil zephyr]

that actually does line up

the squid from milestone has high aggression / independence and I remember it proccing those buffs
and my high helpful creature Ive been using has been proccing that buff too

[pliant trail]

Very good resource to keep then

What's in your opinion the best mix? Definitely aggressive, small size for starters

[prime gate]

It procs both? So theres a way to potentially get three proc effects via sequencer?

[pliant trail]

That makes sense

[tranquil zephyr]

if they're all above 51% I would think so

the squid has low playfulness and never procs that

[pliant trail]

High Aggression >
Small Size <
Low Devotion <
High Helpful or Playful?

[prime gate]

Now that's a useful way to play with the sequencer for an edge in the arena.

[pliant trail]

Exactly my thoughts

I just wanna know the most useful combination

[prime gate]

I'd bet those traits work best when the exaggerate existing traits rather than as a way to balance things. Adding dodge to high agility, for example (playfulness)

[covert remnant]

Isnt Independence better than Devotion?

[pliant trail]

Self Healing worse than debuff accuracy for two turns?

[covert remnant]

As a random proc, i believe so

[pliant trail]

No clue honestly

[ember wave]

random heal while we might be full?

yeah, i'd take that acc debuff

[pliant trail]

Good to see you it's been forever

That's good to know, I'll probs go that route then

[haughty rapids]

god barrage is such a stupid move

[covert remnant]

I wonder if theres some kind of ability meta

Especially for the 5th ability

[haughty rapids]

got an SCS barrage pet

[ember wave]

gosh i hope not

[pliant trail]

High Aggression >
Small Size <
Low Devotion <
High Helpful or Playful?

[covert remnant]

Today Oceanus had that weird skill that increased its damage after each use

Seemed broken to me

[tranquil zephyr]

"Worth Using" column is opinionated but probably pretty accurate
has all abilities afaik

[ember wave]

i got 1 shot at the end of one of those sequences

[covert remnant]

Yep same

[covert remnant]

Oooh thats nice
Is it yours?

[tranquil zephyr]

yep

[covert remnant]

Great work!

[pliant trail]

Nice

These are the resources I wanted

Thank you

[haughty rapids]

are milestone pets always SSS btw?

[covert remnant]

I would go on full debuff route and take playful

[pliant trail]

I'll take your word for it!

[covert remnant]

Oh, milestones are SSS

[haughty rapids]

oh damn
which ones are the easiest to get?

[pliant trail]

Not sure about easiest but the squid seems really good

[covert remnant]

Eggs, and upgrading if u dupe cells

Which elements are those 5 pets?

[tranquil zephyr]

apex companion- squid (anomalous)
egg hatch- corrupted quad (mech)
champions- aeron crab (mech)
total wins- wanderiny shrimp tank (mech)
Oceanus- geno-prawn (toxic)
I've gotten all 4 except Oceanus one since it's time gated without save editor

[haughty rapids]

hmm

[covert remnant]

Thank you!

So we got 3 elements

[tranquil zephyr]

only the squid is really worth using
you can see my notes on which moves they get that are in the wrong slots on the spreadsheet

[covert remnant]

Why not one of mechs?

[tranquil zephyr]

they just dont have good moves, and trying to change any of the milestone creature moves crashes the game

[covert remnant]

Oooh

Well lets hope they fix that 😄

[tranquil zephyr]

could be intentional, the squid seems to have a custom higher stat version of agility boost strong

[covert remnant]

Shrimp tank is so cool looking i want him as my battle mech

[haughty rapids]

pet's an eyestalk, but refuses to actually appear outside of its home planet, oof

[covert remnant]

Game crashing doesnt sound intentional to me
But will see what they do with that
Maybe more zendesk reports about that will help

[haughty rapids]

so
theyre all worth gettign
theyre just not worth getting quickly

[tranquil zephyr]

squid is

[haughty rapids]

and you get that one by just leveling a pet to 30?

[covert remnant]

do u happen to know whether pushing those personality stats to 100% increases abilities proc chances?

[covert remnant]

btw arent shrimp tank abilities pretty good according to your rating?

[plush lion]

Is there a list somewhere of planets with triple S pets?

[tranquil zephyr]

not sure, all ik is that my squid never procs helpful which is low but procs the other 2 all the time

[pliant trail]

Look around NMSCoordExchange on Reddit, and youtube

[unkempt vortex]

Does anyone have any idea how big the boundary horror gets? And is it rideable?

[covert remnant]

lmao i just realised shrimp tank has 3 self-damaging abilities and a healing shield

this might be really interesting to play

[paper ember]

I appreaciate the coords for these man thank you

[prime gate]

High damage reflect can be useful here; high dodge too.

[covert remnant]

i beat him no problem, just mentioned it to illustrate that abilities are definetely not created equal

[tranquil zephyr]

sry got busy for a little bit
lemme check

but also to get it it's 220 wins
not very fast

[covert remnant]

220??????????????

yikes

what are the numbers for other milestones?

[tranquil zephyr]

ok so I messed up on the rating for the self damage high attack, it doesn't do nearly as much as the heavy version so it's not as good
the only thing the shrimp has going for it is +100% defense on the self destruct move

[tribal coral]

It will take some time to max lvl20 pets anyways

[tranquil zephyr]

champions- 60
total wins- 220
apex companions (max level pets)- 20
egg hatching- 30
Oceanus- still unknown

[tribal coral]

Oceanus 30 imo

[tranquil zephyr]

probably around that yeah

[covert remnant]

woah

[tranquil zephyr]

I had someone who save edits show me the moves and stuff but they didn't tell me how exactly it worked to get the Oceanus pet

[covert remnant]

btw in your table some "1" moves are marked purple

[tranquil zephyr]

oh oops

probably changed color without changing number
after consideration they've been knocked down a lvl

[harsh zephyr]

I've been grabbing some cool critters while waiting for the upd on switch

[tranquil zephyr]

should be fixed, thx

[covert remnant]

you know what would make this table AMAZING? cooldowns ;D

[tranquil zephyr]

that would've been a smart thing to look at when I was reviewing all the moves huh

[covert remnant]

and for ability sets planning

[tranquil zephyr]

Im not sure if every move type has the same cooldown tho
probably? maybe?
and they dont all last for the same turns unless specified in the spreadsheet
just realized block percent says 5 turns instead of X arghh

[covert remnant]

i would assume all elememts within one line of the spreadsheet do have same CD

[tranquil zephyr]

I would think so yeah
but I didn't check
plus it only says it in battle iirc

I mean I can fill it in for the first slot attack LOL

[scarlet cipher]

Was told Oceanus is 30 by a data miner

[tranquil zephyr]

it's likely right but wont confirm to anyone who asks until we can actually see it :P

[covert remnant]

did anyone try to change Oceanus's pets colors?

[tranquil zephyr]

only egg Ive been able to hatch is aeron crab
still need to mess with sequencing for it

squid & corrupted quad just never have the option to lay
wandering shrimp has the same bug as mecha mouse where it can lay but cant pick up the egg

[covert remnant]

oh so u get them not as eggs but as pets?

[tranquil zephyr]

you get them as eggs but I hatched them all immediately

[covert remnant]

ah i see

[tranquil zephyr]

would have been smart to uh
get multiple initially
but I didnt think of it and I already had gotten the first 2

[covert remnant]

gonna upgrade 20 pets and try with the boundary horror
can u plz show its initial color and stats?

[covert remnant]

can we dupe eggs in the refiner? i would assume no

[tranquil zephyr]

dont know if I have a pic of it un-upgraded

[tranquil zephyr]

you can, but if you hatch one the rest become unusable

[covert remnant]

ah

[covert remnant]

woah its... black?

or just display bug

[tranquil zephyr]

yeah and when you have it out it's translucent shimmering

super cool

[covert remnant]

but still black?

[tranquil zephyr]

yep!

[covert remnant]

dats kinda cool

[covert remnant]

ok will see if i have the patience to upgrade everything right now

[tranquil zephyr]

it has a very low opacity ig

also since it always likes to be upside down like in the pic...
hence the name

[covert remnant]

oh yea i remember how riding child of helios goes

probably same behaviour here

[tranquil zephyr]

just realized I havent actually tried to ride it

nope incompatible size

yeah only able to ride wandering shrimp out of the 4 I have

also, I think the cooldowns for the milestone creatures are different as well as the slot being wrong
cause the self destruct on other creatures is 4 and on the shrimp it's 5
also-also the corrupted quad's first ability is actually a stronger version of the regular 1st ability with a 1 turn CD instead of 0 😵‍💫

[noble dew]

S Class radioactive fish! Euclid

[covert remnant]

aight too sleepy to upgrade 20 pets now

will do it tomorrow-ish and report back here on boundary horror egg sequencing

[tranquil zephyr]

the cooldowns arent a standard amount btw
can be different even on non milestone pets

[covert remnant]

ooof

[tranquil zephyr]

I reeeeally dont want to spend that much time finding out what every move cooldown range is sooooo
Im not going to include it

[covert remnant]

yea

i wonder if theres some rule influencing what the value will be

[tranquil zephyr]

plus Im pretty sure not all creatures can get every move in a slot so

[tranquil zephyr]

probably the dmg range / turn amt it gets
since that part is different between pets

[covert remnant]

btw why u rate dodge chance increase so low?

[unreal dawn]

How many battles can you fight against Oceanus per day?

[tranquil zephyr]

cause dodge chance isn't good
Im not sure exactly how it's calculated but I was playing against a person who did a +100% dodge and still hit them

[covert remnant]

so we make our pets big and helpful rather than small and playful?

[tranquil zephyr]

nah you need them to be small for better turn order (higher agility)

[covert remnant]

dodge and armor might me swapped
i had an enemy who did selfdestruct for team armor, and i just couldnt land any attack after that

[prime gate]

I wonder what the effective dodge rate is when it hits its clamp. Maybe 80%?

[unreal dawn]

@tranquil zephyr and how many battles i need to obtain the egg?

[tranquil zephyr]

unconfirmed potentially 30

[tranquil zephyr]

you mean for defense? it definitely isnt, I barely do any dmg to the npcs that do that move but I still hit them every time

[unreal dawn]

30? dammm

[covert remnant]

yea defense
well, my pets were straight up missing after that
weird

[tranquil zephyr]

as it is reducing the enemy accuracy is a more effective way to make them miss, probably
or just having majorly higher agility (which is harder if it's SSS lvl 30 vs SSS lvl 30)

[vivid coyote]

@prime gate
We were discussing what Helpfulness added to things.

I hope these clips help the data collection

[prime gate]

It would be interesting to see how these relate to the creatures other stats. I suspect they modify a dominant feature like combat effectiveness or agility. Its consistently the same effect per-species, eh?

[vivid coyote]

um.. I think it may be randomized. I think I've seen Skipetta use a couple different randomed skills. But helpful seems to produce buffs.

[prime gate]

Are those skills each related to the same trait though? Or do helpfulness, playfulness, and devotion each proc?

[vivid coyote]

will keep an eye out and see if Baker consistently uses the same one

[vivid coyote]

it seems to be related to the highest one

[prime gate]

I figure if the three spectra are each above a certain %, say 70, then they have a threshold to proc.

[vivid coyote]

so those three kids, their highest stat is helpful

and ive only seen them do helpful things

ie: "Baker's helpfullness leads to...."

it's always helpfulness with THAT creature, never the other personality traits

Somehow most of my creatures are high on the helpful stat, so I don't have other data

[unreal dawn]

What is the "unusual" climate?

[vivid coyote]

"weird" planets.
Do you have the emeril drive on your ship yet?

[unreal dawn]

Yep, I even have the purple one

[tranquil zephyr]

mecha mouse has a bug where you can't pick up the eggs
so don't be surprised if it does that

[vivid coyote]

Also, right now it won't help. There's a bug that wont let you pick up the mech-type eggs.
But when they do fix it, the fastest way to find a weirdd planet is to hit a green system and look for any planet that doesn't have a plant listing, but DOES have the standard elements... thigns like "haunted", "wine dark" or "lost"

[unreal dawn]

Right, I forgot

[snow hearth]

oceanus' milestone pets are all SSS stats right
thanks

[vivid coyote]

From what I've heard, yes

You CAN find SSS in the natural world too, it's just tough

[tranquil zephyr]

yes with all curated moves as well
trying to change them crashes the game

[tranquil zephyr]

sucks that 3 of the milestone creatures are mechanical...
but aeron crab actually works fine

[snow hearth]

I have no shortage of mech pets and I reaaaally want to keep the special ones (expedition rewards, walking big ball) I still have... 30 isn't enough 🥲

[tranquil zephyr]

make an egg from them and keep it in storage?

[snow hearth]

Would probably forget about it ngl

Ig I can just remove the purple robot dogs i have, they're SSS but not special otherwise

[tranquil zephyr]

name the parent something like "expedition 13 pet" or something before inducing

[snow hearth]

Oh yeah that's smart instead of messing up every name so it looks funny lol

[vivid coyote]

Note: there is a limit to the number of eggs you can own per save.

It was 18 last I checked/not sure what it is now

[tranquil zephyr]

wasn't aware of that

[vivid coyote]

simply does not let you pick up new eggs when you've reached max, no mattter where you keep them

[tranquil zephyr]

I see I see
wiki says so as well

[vivid coyote]

(it may have been 20)

[tranquil zephyr]

it's 18 you're right
but there aren't that many expeditions with pets so it's fine tbh

[snow hearth]

Also how do pets age even? The worm (expedition reward) I hatched a while back is still a juvenile, they don't have to be out to age do they

[tranquil zephyr]

no idea, I use a mod that makes pet time stuff not a thing :P

[twilit zinc]

has anyone found a pet that looks like rocky from project hail mary

[tranquil zephyr]

not sure there's anything like that in the game, @patent sonnet would probably know (sry ping)

[patent sonnet]

Closest I can think of would be bonecats

[twilit zinc]

oh I've seen those and I thought they look sort of like rocky

ill look for them

now I wanna make the hail mary

idk how ill approach that though considering there is no circular habs

[noble dew]

My goal is to find a bipedal lizard on a gamma planet and name it Godzilla lol

[vale peak]

Can purple stars have mechanical creatures? So far I'm 0 for like 10 or 15 systems

[snow hearth]

ive definitely seen mech creatures in purple stars b4 (reminder that it also needs to be uncharted)

[vale peak]

Yep, been searching every planet in every purple uncharted star for like 2 hours

Not a single mechanical creature yet

[snow hearth]

this is an example planet (giants are only in purple stars). i visited this b4 xeno battles

[vale peak]

They do exist! Thanks for confirming. Just bad luck I guess.

Trying to go mechanical SSS hunting but having a hard enough time just finding any lol

[fathom berry]

Is there a known "ideal system type" for better chance of SSS or neh?

[stray robin]

just random luck

[vale peak]

That's why I was going for purple, wasn't positive but figured it was the best place to start looking

[distant geode]

Thoose are NOT bonecats

thoose are not cats.

[patent sonnet]

That is what they are called internally

[distant geode]

Ik but i got a cat, it doesent look like that.

🤣

[sharp summit]

What causes a pet in a xeno fight to have three consecutive moves/turns?

[tranquil zephyr]

agility stat changing to be higher/lower than the opponent which alters the turn order
havent seen 3 in a row tho only 2

[raw zodiac]

I literally could not be less surprised that an antelope was my first triple S. It was preordained with how common these things are.

Also I don't know why the skin is messed up reloaded my game after taking these to check if that fixes it

And before anyone gets too excited the stats ARE nerfed when tamed

[tribal coral]

They show only stats "potential" and base stats after taming

[raw zodiac]

Ahhh I see

Still that's pretty solid

[lone lance]

Is there any way to skip egg inducing times without changing my console date?

[lusty fractal]

Anyone got level pellets?

[safe wadi]

Anyone got an extra void egg? I’m stuck at 3110 QS and I’m not seeing anymore missions tonight lol

[tranquil zephyr]

interesting to note, supereffective is 1.66x and resisted is 0.66x
not 2 and 0.5 like pokemon

[tranquil zephyr]

I can give you some

[covert remnant]

Its still 18 unfortunately

[lusty fractal]

Yay :). I'll send friend code

@tranquil zephyr ZJY0-DS5Y-N2HZW

[tranquil zephyr]

added, mine is ~~~~
one of us has to host multiplayer from mode select iirc
I will do it, should be up

[lusty fractal]

Oh okay I started one too lol ill leave once it's loaded in and join yours

[tranquil zephyr]

oh if you've already started Ill just join yours
didnt see it

[lusty fractal]

Kk I'm in now

[tranquil zephyr]

are you on xbox?

[lusty fractal]

Yess

[tranquil zephyr]

ahhh

[lusty fractal]

Well gamepass pc lol

[tranquil zephyr]

unfortunately xbox is behind because of microsoft policy stuff
you can only play with other xbox players atm since y'all don't have the newest patch I believe

[lusty fractal]

Unfortunate. Hopefully we get the new patch soon 🙂

Also @tranquil zephyr have you noticed a significant difference between those with 100% traits (playful, aggressive) etc vs those with lower percents of traits?

Like are the odds significantly different?

[tranquil zephyr]

higher percents gives more procs from my experience
there is definitely a significant increase when a category is high percent

[lone lance]

Help. What will actually increase Playfulness?! All of the guides and tables seem to be contradicting themselves and the egg sequencer status preview seems to be bugged too

[tribal coral]

Shame. Egg storage container would be nice

[surreal juniper]

Hello, Looking for big flying snake eggs, if smeone have big 10 meters would be also nice or other type of flying snakes. thank you!

[keen horizon]

How does the experience work for the arena ?
Is it a total shared between all pets actively fighting or do all pets fighting receive the same quantity ?

[keen horizon]

Does a flying fish suits your fancy ?

[surreal juniper]

flying fish? can you give me an SS please?

screen shot

[keen horizon]

Here you are

[surreal juniper]

yeah i need 1 hahahha this is so funny

[surreal juniper]

5KM1-WA08-F2A3T

[keen horizon]

I have the egg ready, but I seldom play in multiplayer. Can you remember me how to meet ?

[surreal juniper]

option,network,view no man sky friend list and you add me by the code and inv me

or i will inv you

@keen horizon

[keen horizon]

Already done, you are either Veilin or Jeddak, but I can't seem to be able to invite you

[surreal juniper]

i'm jedda

k

[keen horizon]

FFA5-V2N2-5M02W�

[surreal juniper]

give me your friend code pls

[keen horizon]

FFA5-V2N2-5M02W

[surreal juniper]

also active network on

[keen horizon]

It is on

[keen horizon]

But I see you as offline

[surreal juniper]

thank you, i gaved to you 2 eggs also

[lone lance]

What element is this? Looks nice

[surreal juniper]

Toxic

as my Ex

[vapid pivot]

@surreal juniper

No stickers in this channel please

[lone lance]

😂😂😂

[surreal juniper]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[keen horizon]

Thank you.
It was strange. I needed to warp first before the invite worked and the messages were locked to caps on but in the end everything went well.

[radiant meteor]

look at tis BABII

BABISS

[radiant meteor]

freak h*rse 👅

[topaz dawn]

You don’t happen to have the address for that critter do you?

[radiant meteor]

uhh no but i planeted a base there

i can take you to it whe nyoure free

[heavy mortar]

I feel like grinding for SSS pets (without using existing glyphs) is a double edged sword. On one hand, if I find one, I have an amazing battle ready pet. On the other hand, if I face other players in the anomaly, people might think I cheated them in, especially since I'm on pc lol

I almost feel like settling for double S instead of triple might be better

[vivid coyote]

Ive taken to calling these thigns "giraffes" - the tongue is not all that common in my experience, nice find.

[solid birch]

Haha. A no win situation.
Do SSS occur naturally?

Nevermind. I just scrolled up and answered my own question.

[paper ember]

I mean i used my ss brood beast feel like people still fought i was cheating best bet if you wanna duel other players is find people with ss/sss pets aswell

[lucid beacon]

what are the rarest faunas besides diplo and mushroom beetles?

[lusty flint]

I'm collecting full S class bugs. Any help appreciated.

[heavy mortar]

Assuming my theory that each stat has equal class weights (25% for any class, including S), you have about a 1.5% chance of any tameable creature being SSS

It's not impossible; I've hit the 1.5% chance four times now, just not with S lol

But it is very grindy

That's if you want to find them yourself; otherwise look for posts of ones people have found and shared

[lusty flint]

I have 3 bugs at S class already. And a full squad of randoms for each type at full S class, alas though they are not bugs 🙂

[heavy mortar]

How did you get them?

[lusty flint]

A few from the coord exchange and the rest just revisiting settled worlds and locations. And then randomly looking.

A mix

[heavy mortar]

You must be very lucky then

I haven't found a single SSS

[lusty flint]

I can get you one if you just want a location? Happy to oblige. Any particular type or creature?

Happy to share coords

[heavy mortar]

I'm trying to find my own lol

[lusty flint]

I hear you, I respect that ofc. Keep looking you will find them

[manic bobcat]

butterfly worm?

[heavy mortar]

If everyone just uses the same set of shared glyphs, there's not going to be a lot of variety because egg sequencing doesn't change stats or type (unsure about moves)

[lusty flint]

I saw one earlier. I can fulfill that, let me find it.

[lucid beacon]

that looks so good

[manic bobcat]

i am taking it to outer space

[paper bone]

What types of planet do you usually find SSS? I spent a whole day jumping red stars and no luck

[manic bobcat]

really looks beautiful

[lusty flint]

You are so right. It's more for the experimentation at the moment, and then I'll pursue genetic variety. I'm sitting at around 15-18 triple S class creatures. Some are cool, some look awful

[lucid beacon]

seems to be random for me

not sure tho, I'm new to the game

[heavy mortar]

It's not dependent on planet. Flat 1.5% chance for any creature to be SSS

[paper bone]

Wow! Google ai lied to me lol

[manic bobcat]

yall think this will be a strong mon?

[heavy mortar]

I heard one person say they're more common on extreme planets but I think this is misinformation

[lusty flint]

Not sure if this counts, but it's a Triple S class

[manic bobcat]

wow, love the color of this one too

[lusty flint]

I agree, I like the red streak on it too

[lucid beacon]

i hope i can find a s class diplo

or atleast a class

[lusty flint]

Havnt seen one, if you ever do though, let us know

[lucid beacon]

will do

[lusty flint]

Thank you ❤️

[manic bobcat]

is there a way to know the battle class of a fauna without adding them to the register?

[heavy mortar]

Now keep in mind my 1.5% flat chance is a theory amd I haven't looked in the game files yet. But basically it looks like the classes are equally weighted (25% for C, B, A, S). So your chance of SSS is 1/4 * 1/4 * 1/4 * 100

[lusty flint]

And if anyone's looking for triple S class just so you can raise them, or collect them for fun, let me know and I'll happily track some down. Im enjoying the Xeno Arena. Just need to figure out how to make the monstrous Arena table I saw earlier to fight with giant creatures

[lusty flint]

I trust you. I'm no good at the mathematics

[lusty flint]

Yes, scan them with the pet scanner

[manic bobcat]

glyphs

[lucid beacon]

just look at the stats rank on scanner

[heavy mortar]

Now if you're looking for a very specific looking SSS creature, you're better off finding the closest SSS and changing the look with egg sequencing

Otherwise chances are too low

For specific types? Yeah it's gonna get muddy there; good luck

[lusty flint]

I agree. It's going to get very difficult with my goal of having all bug types at triple S. Those maths are going to be insane.

The one type I've not seen a lot of at all is Frost type. Super rare, ive seen 1 triple S

[lucid beacon]

are frost type strong?

[manic bobcat]

good stats without any training right?

[lucid beacon]

i have one that looks like jellyfish, but it's SSA

[paper ember]

What type is this?

[lusty flint]

Not particularly, I've had one battle that I needed a frosty for. But the ice moves are quite good

[heavy mortar]

If you want to get exact chances, it'll be x * 1/4 * 1/4 * 1/4 * 100, where x is the chance of any creature spawning as a bug, which I'm not sure of

[lusty flint]

toxic

[heavy mortar]

Multiply by chance of biome for type

[lusty flint]

Gosh you are a little maths genius 😂 love that

[lucid beacon]

i see, what types are strong then?

[heavy mortar]

It's just basic probability

But the odds suck no matter what

[lusty flint]

Well depends, each type is strong and weak against another.

Here's a chart

[heavy mortar]

But like all chances, simply checking more will increase the chances of eventually finding one

Give me a sec

[lucid beacon]

hmmmmm i see, seems balanced. the moves will make a difference then

[paper ember]

Whats the best way to find vile broods wanna get an ss/sss of each type

[heavy mortar]

Pulling up my planet statistics chart I made using over 300 catalogged planets (all lush but I don't think it matters in this case)

Sorry for bad quality; on work computer lol

[lusty flint]

💯

[heavy mortar]

Some flying creatures are tameable and so are some underwater, but for simplicity, lets just go with ground (even though not all ground are tameable)

4.6 is the average number of ground creatures per planet

So 4.6 x 1.5 = 6.9

[lusty flint]

These are my current Triple S bugs

[heavy mortar]

So about a 7% chance for any planet to have at least one SSS

[manic bobcat]

triple S are incredibly rare to find no?

[heavy mortar]

But that's ignoring the fact that not all ground creatures are tameable

[lucid beacon]

everything looks sick, i love them all

[heavy mortar]

Yes; flat 1.5% for any creature

[manic bobcat]

are there systems where triple S is more likely to be found? like purple systems or 3 stars?

[heavy mortar]

No

[tribal coral]

Worst thing is . We cant check in discoveries tab on old discoveries if we have found some SSS already.

[heavy mortar]

Although the flat 7% chance of any planet isn't so bad, assuming all ground creatures are tameable on said planet

[lusty flint]

It's all luck really but it can be hard, there are a few on NMS Coordinates though, but if you go fast, scan and move on, you should be fine. Also knowing the class system for systems helps to locate specific planets. I.e you want F7-F9 class planets for barren worlds for desert types

The higher the number the hotter the system

[manic bobcat]

desert types are the strongest?

[lusty flint]

I love the desert types (my favourite) but none are particularly the strongest, they all are strong and weak against different types. Maybe there is some maths that makes a type stronger but I don't know that 😂

[heavy mortar]

I have creature statistics here (lush only but doesn't matter) if anyone wants to look https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wABpXuxt2iDzlZ3u7z9Gnbjl2DQaIJyTZ00O1rAxDSk/edit?usp=drivesdk

[manic bobcat]

i heard people talking about worms being too strong but idk which worms because the ones that fly and stay in air aren't adoptable i think

[heavy mortar]

But that spreadsheet was for systems to live in

It wasn't intended for xeno arena stuff

[lusty flint]

And thank you. I'm building the perfect bug team and happily they rolled with some fantastic abilities

[heavy mortar]

But still surprisingly useful

[heavy mortar]

There's an expedition award that is a flying worm

[lusty flint]

Correct. If you want that in S class, you will have to save scum

[lucid beacon]

hoping i can find a diplo with at least good moves

[heavy mortar]

Which honestly doesn't seem so bad compared to running around like a chicken with no head trying to find SSS

[lusty flint]

I'll keep my eye out on my travels and @ you if I ever find one.

[lucid beacon]

thank you kind sir, and I'll do the same

[manic bobcat]

my diplo is C class 😭

[lusty flint]

Yeah the expedition eggs I messed up on and sadly my primary save hatched my sand worm before I learnt I could do that

[heavy mortar]

You could hatch them in another save and have a friend help you transfer them

[manic bobcat]

all my pets before the update were C class except anomalous bubble that keeps spinning, idk if you came across that one before, it was B

[heavy mortar]

I hatched all mine in my main save a long time ago but none in my perma death save so at least I have that

[lusty flint]

I have no friends lol. I opened my home world up to everyone yesterday so I'm hoping I get some lovely neighbours. So that may change

[manic bobcat]

anomalous have nice moves, some are really high damage

[lusty flint]

I have a toxic with quite possibly the most outrageous move in the game I've seen so far imo

[manic bobcat]

but at the end of the day, training is a very long road, i think it's quicker to hunt for triple S class instead

[lucid beacon]

mine is B class, i still love it tho

[heavy mortar]

Offer a reward to help with the transfer. I did this with expedition exclusive items that weren't rewards and were from before we could do expeditions through existing saves. Basically I paid (with in game items) someone to be a transfer medium for stuff like the homeworld resonator item

[lucid beacon]

oh my lord

[heavy mortar]

It's how my main save has tons of weird shit you can't get anymore without using mods or save editing

[manic bobcat]

also found this, its a worm that digs into the ground, runs super fast, and not adoptable

[lusty flint]

The negative does not outweigh that damage. Giving them 34% combat effectiveness when they are dead is no loss lol

[lusty flint]

That is so cool man. That actually looks huggable

I bet it's so warm 😂

[manic bobcat]

so right, wish i took a video of how it runs

[lusty flint]

Just squidges about I imagine

[lucid beacon]

i have a similar move with one of my fauna, it can one tap opponents so it didn't matter to increase their combat effectiveness lol

[manic bobcat]

at turbo speed 😭

[lusty flint]

Definitely. There are others that have a 2 turn effect, but the -100% defense on first turn is outrageous.

For the second turn to do the damage my toxic ability does. No thankyou

[lucid beacon]

oh nah

[tame sierra]

this is just a radioactive rug isn't it

[lusty flint]

Go for a hug, leave with a tumor

[manic bobcat]

probably, it was too fast and i scanned it right before it dug through a rocky area, tried to feed it but it wasnt letting me (for my own good i think 😂 )

look at the combat on this!

[tame sierra]

the good thing is if you pul up the fighting stats if thers none its untamable

[manic bobcat]

yeah that was the case

[tame sierra]

i like the variety from strange hipo to water fox

[manic bobcat]

adopted this but the S stats bars fell back

got scammed

[tame sierra]

it always hapens i think its like just the natural potential

and you can upgrade afther wining exp

in arena

[late cairn]

I wish there were a training "mission" to walk one through how to meaningfully upgrade one's companion for battle. I have had one battle so far with another player and my character HP (or whatever we're calling the health) was ~450 max and the one I was fighting was like ~3,200.

Is there such a thing we can engage with in the game that I am not seeing?

Or has someone setup a guide sheet or something, here?

I thought it odd there is no new Xeno Arena channel on the server, but I guess this may be where such things are discussed.

[lucid beacon]

i would love it if they add a mechanic that could increase a fauna's stat rank, maybe on the egg sequencer

[prime gate]

Have you looked at your creature in the companion registry? If you closely examine it, it will give you info about its SABC tier, its point distribution for Combat Effectiveness, Agility, and Health, and then you can also apply gene mods to those three as you win battles.

[late cairn]

So gene mods after winning a battle is how you upgrade your companions?

Egg modifier aside

[lucid beacon]

yes

[late cairn]

Can you upgrade class of a companion somehow?

[lucid beacon]

currently no, i wish we can tho

[late cairn]

All my companion slots are full. It sounds like some fauna out there now have special abilities -- so I would want to replace some of my current companions likely, I guess.

[prime gate]

Hunting wild SSS is the best way to get strong pets.

Actual battle skills can be changed once your pet is level 30.

You've used all 30 slots? You'll generally want 2x pet/element if you want to do a lot of fights.

As with ships, the SABC tier is a multiplier for stat allocation. S will always outperform A, so SSS is most competitive. 2S isn't bad, especially if its like SSA or so.

[merry yacht]

look at this beauty

[lucid beacon]

I'd name it Shrek

[upper olive]

Does anyone have any of the super sized pets from bsck when the sequencing glitch was a thing

[merry yacht]

this one got pretty decent battle stats but i dont got the ss since im on my phone

[fluid trellis]

Found my first wild SSS 🙂
Desert type.
Available with either horns or ears.

[nimble basalt]

I'm doing an only bugs Team and would like to know where you found the flying beetle because I'm missing a fire type

[mighty pike]

You know what a fun side effect of the Xeno Arena is? People are going to pay more attention to Twitch drop eggs.

[lucid beacon]

wait there are twitch drops? what eggs do they drop?

[mighty pike]

There's no new Twitch drops right now, but they sometimes run alongside large updates. And they often reward companion eggs.

[lucid beacon]

and the companion eggs are random?

[lusty flint]

Was it you looking for a brachiosaur?

[lucid beacon]

yessss

[lusty flint]

Bro, I found something. It's a brachiosaur, but it's got the head of a snake. Triple S rank

[mighty pike]

Yes and no. Often, they're just a progen HG found and is offering. But sometimes they'll have past expedition pets too. (That's how I got my sandworm from Emergence despite being on Switch 1)

[lucid beacon]

oh my god yes

[lusty flint]

Look at that!

[lucid beacon]

oh i see

[lucid beacon]

oh my god it's beautiful

[lusty flint]

Go get it. It's all yours. Portal coords on image

Euclid

Fire type

[lucid beacon]

i don't know how to use portals yet, but I'll try and get it later after work

[lucid beacon]

perfect

actually the type i was looking for

[lusty flint]

If you need help, I'll help you with portals, just send me a message 🙂

[lucid beacon]

bro thank you, I'll message you later, almost done with work

[lusty flint]

No worries, chat soon mate

[lucid beacon]

again, thank you!

[lusty flint]

My pleasure

[fluid trellis]

In-case you are still looking for a desert SSS: #nms-fauna message

[lusty flint]

Me personally, looking for bugs. Need around 4 more, Mechanical (not even sure I can find a buggy looking mechanical in SSS), Frost, Desert, and Anomalous.

And then my bug collection in SSS is done!

[fluid trellis]

Should I find some I will let you know ^^

[shadow veldt]

Does anyone else feel like an SSS creature isnt enough? You need it to be aesthetically pleasing as well? lol.

[prime gate]

Egg sequencer can "fix" most creatures, with enough rolling 🙂

[lusty fractal]

How do you sequence playfulness

[lusty flint]

Yep, that's what I'm working on. I'm placing insane restrictions on myself at this point

[tepid drift]

What are the stats of this guy?

[tepid drift]

Sweet fire beetle. Remember where you got it?

[lusty flint]

Give me 1 minute

[lusty flint]

There you go 🙂

[fluid trellis]

Fyi the adress is cut off

[tepid drift]

Yeah address slightly missing.

[lusty flint]

Apologies, there we go

[tepid drift]

Cheers mate🍻

[lusty flint]

You are very welcome

[heavy mortar]

@lusty flint what's your strategy for finding SSS on your own (not using existing glyphs)? you seem to be finding them a lot

[lusty flint]

Depends what I'm targeting. Some are from NMS Coords. On my own, I target a type and I honestly don't even land on planets that don't have that type otherwise you end up all over the place.

My advice is, Target a companion type and go to systems that have a high chance of those planet types and land, look around and scan, then leave, no use wasting time looking for one extra creature you can't find. Just 360 scan and move on. You actually cover far more ground when you do that making the odds easier.

It's easy to get distracted, but eyes on the prize, 360 scan, move on.

[heavy mortar]

Okay

I wonder if a max speed corvette would help for getting between planets

[lusty flint]

I play games like a robot sometimes, just as efficient as possible.

If there's 11 fauna, chances are if I do a quick scan around me I'll discover about 6-7 of them. Then if you move on you are gonna cover 6-7 more.

If I carried on looking for the last few, I'd be stuck on that planet for 10 minutes looking around for stuff. I write off the last few and just move on.

[lusty flint]

I use a Sentinel Interdictor I've called Fly 7. It is so tiny, quick and maneuverable that it's great for scouting operations

[tepid drift]

Is there a list you have found that lists the type of fauna on what types of planets? For instance I am a fan of bugs and the grunts (bipedal bird peak guys).

[lusty flint]

I actually am compiling a list of all SSS class creatures I know (well over 50). But not ready to release that. Would hate for everyone to have the same pets as me 😂, a little selfish but I don't mind relinquishing a few of them. Also I don't want to ruin everyone's update by just putting them all out there.

[lusty flint]

With regard to actual species, I have no clue, it's all a bit random. I know where to find the TYPES of companions but the species? Not so much, I've never seen anything that would lead me to think that X planet has Y species more regularly. Maybe there is? Im not sure

[shadow abyss]

I dont belive I actually found something like this, this my new pet

[bronze fulcrum]

Finally found one!

[merry yacht]

kawa 216.8kg/5.4m

thats his name too

[undone pond]

whats the coolest creatures you guys have?

mines gotta be a griffin

[merry yacht]

this one is my favorite lol

[undone pond]

its beautiful

are the walking buildings good in combat?

[merry yacht]

Like b and a

[inner inlet]

anyone have portal address for non-fire triple-s companions? I've only found fire so far

[undone pond]

i don't care for combat power as much as looks lol so does anyone have any cool bugs?! like the GIANT ones lol

[inner inlet]

Not sure about how giant it is, but you can check out Euclid:

and ... I'm not sure portal addresses are useful for this, I've heard rumours about the stats for mobs being dependent on more than just planet, and also relying on some random value associated with each player, so maybe those are not good for you

[keen horizon]

#nms-fauna message

[undone pond]

i need this

in my life

[undone pond]

will do!

[prime gate]

Is there a limit to how many times skills can be re-rolled? Like, do we know if pets have a max level they can achieve?

[inner inlet]

for me there is a big "bug" like triple-S one there

[undone pond]

@keen horizon

i would

adore

a flying fish

[fickle oracle]

What galaxy please, can't read Cyrillic

[undone pond]

mariti can i have an egg?

[tranquil zephyr]

several of the milestone creatures currently can't lay eggs including that one

[undone pond]

i see

oki

[raw zodiac]

The fact that my first one is the most barebones fly eyed antelope in existence is an inevitability I knew would happen

I hope and pray an update allows us to boost their abilities in the gene sequencer so we can use favorites instead of rely on RNG going "Woe, most triple S creatures being antelopes or cows be upon ye."

[prime gate]

If you're not opposed to using glyphs, theres a ton of variety already to choose from, and it's not been one week yet.

[bronze fulcrum]

Euqlid

I don't remember the planet name.
Frozen type of planet.

[raw zodiac]

Well I already have a few personal favs but some range from 'will be outclassed due to lower stats' to 'bringing a magikarp that only knows splash into a competitive match'. I want to improve those species and use them if I can.

Plus far as I can tell no one has made a clean compendium of triple S creatures yet.

[inner inlet]

I've heard conflicting rumours about whether such a compendium would actually work; I've seen people claim that the potential of a creature depends on the player as well, so something that is Triple-S for one player might be triple-C or whatnot for someone else. Would love to see someone actually test it out though

and for that matter, I have a Euclid portal address where I've found a triple-s fire-based mob, I can post the address and a screenshot of the mob if someone wants to go there to test the theory.

[prime gate]

Bad skills can be fixed, but bad stats can't. Keep your eyes peeled here and, I'd suggest, on the NMSCE discord. I'm also on a third RP discord I found through the communities section here. Between those three and YouTube, I found glyphs for creatures I like. And in a lot less time than had I found them strictly in-game. Soon, eggs will be being traded too.

[prime gate]

S to C is a big stretch, tbh. I could see a good player using an A class to outplay an S, but beyond that, stats still will matter a ton in competitive environments. This is tighter than ship and multitool based combat is because its meant to be competitive.

With a top-leveled C such that skills are re-rolled to liking, you might get some clever stuff happening, but the S-tier player would have to be very, very fresh for that to work imo. 🤷‍♂️

[inner inlet]

maybe we're talking about different things here, I'm commenting on something I've read that if you visit a planet I visited, where found a triple-S creature, you can find the same creature but for you it will be something different, like triple-C, or A-S-C or whatnot.

[prime gate]

Oh! Yes, different things then. 🙏 That's not been my experience. Every triple S that's been shared with me was exactly where I expected it to be, glyphs-wise.

[keen horizon]

I will probably play tomorrow, I will keep an egg for you.
It is however utterly useless in an arena.

[manic oxide]

After soooooo much searching, FINALLY :D

[lucid beacon]

@lusty flint u still on?

[keen horizon]

Is it good even if all the gauges are not filled ?

[lone lance]

My last 30 battles or so were all against Tropical Toxic Tropical. Is this a bug?!

[manic oxide]

No idea :D but I'm glad either way, first SSS I found

[fickle oracle]

Does mutating the eggs from Oceanus do anything? Or are they locked?

[keen horizon]

Indeed well done. My personal best is a SAS so far.

[prime gate]

People have been unable to get eggs for all of his pets aside from the aeron crab.

[undone pond]

thats fine

[fickle oracle]

I was wondering why that was the only one I was seeing. Next patch i guess

But can you mutate the crab?

[tranquil zephyr]

haven't actually tried it
been too focused on getting the milestones done
now that I have all but oceanus tho, will try

[haughty rapids]

https://old.reddit.com/r/NMSCoordinateExchange/comments/1sjha2u/sss_toxic_eissentam_yellow_system/
oof, eissentam only

but this is basically the best pet ive seen so far
close to maxed out in attack
and really high agility and health

also very pretty

[lusty flint]

Yes I am sir

[lusty flint]

Well done man! I have a fire version of that pineapple lol

[prime gate]

Thankfully Eissentam is relatively easy to get to, usually a base on the featured bases list from the Anomaly teleporter there.

I try to make a base next to a glyphs portal in every galaxy I visit.

[haughty rapids]

huh. how can i tell which galaxy im in btw?

i usually dont go back when going to random featured bases and instead just continue playing from there

[manic bobcat]

I FOUND A WEREWOLF

AWOOOOOOOO

[haughty rapids]

what stats?

[manic bobcat]

A combat B agility B health

[haughty rapids]

oof

[manic bobcat]

this cute friendly deer is S class tho

[vivid coyote]

found one today too 😄

[vivid coyote]

thats worth keeping if the skillset is good too

[haughty rapids]

eeh
B combat hurts the most

doesnt it?

[manic bobcat]

ill check it out but the combat seems lacking

[manic bobcat]

i think agility matters more than combat

but wish it was A combat indeed

[haughty rapids]

not for pve i dont think

[haughty rapids]

thanks for the tip!

[manic bobcat]

yeah maybe idk depends on the combat set

[haughty rapids]

problem is everything scales with attack
damage/healing/shield/buffs/etc

[lusty fractal]

Lf battles

[lone lance]

What kind of bullshit is „Thick Plating“? It says 40% of damage is blocked but it heals the opponent for the dmg amount, even over their base life. For 5 feckin turns

[nimble basalt]

oooo, I'll grab that one

[tender parrot]

So are the new unlockable pets strong in the arena?

[haughty rapids]

from what ive heard
onyl the squid is rn

bc they currently crash the game if you try to reroll their attacks

after this gets fixed all of them are just as viable as anything else

[tender parrot]

You happen to know their class?

[haughty rapids]

nope

[tender parrot]

Hmm, I wonder if there‘s an S-Rank among them.

So far the highest ranked exclusive pet I‘ve come across is the Sandworm, which is A-Class across the board

[haughty rapids]

every type of animal can have a chance to be SSS

though every animal of the same species on the same planet has the same stats

[tender parrot]

Yeah but the „handcrafted“ companions are fixed no?

[haughty rapids]

yeah they are
also yeah, SSS are rare and youre better off searchign coords for them than to just hit the lever hundreds of times and hope and pray

[tender parrot]

I think there‘s an SSS among the new earnable companions, but I‘m not sure

[haughty rapids]

all the earnables are SSS as ive said

[tender parrot]

Aahh

[haughty rapids]

its just that most of them have fixed terrible attacks

and currently you cant change those or the game crashes

[tender parrot]

That‘s neat, I really like the new worm. It looks like a hybrid between a sandworm + fish + abyssal horror

[tender parrot]

Hmmm

Sounds rough, I still want an update literally only dedicated to bug fixing

[vivid coyote]

@manic bobcat did you ever find your grubs?

[haughty rapids]

honestly my dream update would just be about
adding procedual generation to things that blatantly dont have procedual generation

Like dangerous flora, or buildings

[manic bobcat]

no i was just on a damp planet with vile brood and still found none, scanned for everything (blue and red icon)

maybe it needs to be a planet without water? or no islands?

[vivid coyote]

i recently checked one and wasnt able to find them either.
will look for a swamp at some point and see ifmaybe theres a spawnign bug atm

[manic bobcat]

that would help a lot, at least i'd stop

[vivid coyote]

My newest warrior - Diseased Beaver.

[manic bobcat]

i've been spending too much time trying to find grubs

[manic bobcat]

looks radioactive

beavers are strong, congrats on your new warrior

[vivid coyote]

toxic 😛 Close!

Spammable skill is "bite" - a physical attack 😄

[manic bobcat]

found this 12 legged sheep

[vivid coyote]

cuteface 😄

[manic bobcat]

whats the damage on it?

[manic bobcat]

true

[vivid coyote]

Here's my sheep 😄

[vivid coyote]

100 or so

[manic bobcat]

thats pretty good for spammable

[vivid coyote]

This is still my fav of my lot. Toxic, with a spammable fire skill. The only one of my "old" pets that had valauble stats

[manic bobcat]

mine looks similar but the stats are meh

guess who i just found as well, but yeah not the best stats again

[manic bobcat]

looks strong but its BAA

[prime gate]

Glad it worked for you! Will be a useful bit of info when searching for portal coord shares. Portal glyphs are unique to each galaxy.

[haughty rapids]

gotta do more main story still for the remaining glyphs tho

[tranquil zephyr]

turns out in the game files the milestone pets have completely custom movesets w/ different values than the defaults (for instance the squid's single turn agility move is 4x higher than the default)
so they aren't intended to be changed

[vivid coyote]

and/or find the traveller NPCs on stations and in planetary outposts. They will share a moment with you, then sell you coordinates to their graves

[prime gate]

Either is effective. Depending where you're at in the story, the story might be faster for you overall.

[vale violet]

has anyone seen these lil guys before its my first time running into them they arent the strongest but pretty cool

[half mesa]

polygon fellas my beloved

cool (literally) S/S/A micro fella (0.4m in the wild), purple system
character for scale lol

[vivid coyote]

@prime gate Here's one I've not seen before

[prime gate]

Oh that's pretty juicy.

[manic bobcat]

i honestly dont know if its good to use non damage skills in battles, feels like combat every turn works better

but regardless the system is brand new and stuff like pokemon takes years to patch and balance out with results data

[vivid coyote]

it's useful on that creature because the other skills it has are multiturn skills, meaning I'm defenseless for three turns

[steel sierra]

Quick question does anyone have a spare mecha mouse egg I could trade for I would redeem it on my save but my last save got Corrupted and wouldn’t let me induce eggs from companies

[vivid coyote]

also, it seems devotion triggers heals, and gentleness debuffs on foe.

[vivid coyote]

mech eggs are not working for anyone right now

[steel sierra]

Oh ok

Sorry

[manic bobcat]

aha so not every creature has at least one combat ability they can use every turn?

[vivid coyote]

it seems they do, but the stronger ones come with downsides.

so skill 2 on that beast locks in the actions for the next 3 rounds - boost combat, boose combat, then BIG attack.

so if i've got "catastrophe" played before i go into the triplet, hopefully it elps me survive until the payoff

all depends on what my foe is I guess, sine one is a bio damage and the other is a radio damage.

or maybe it was haunt, i dont recall. it wasn't linked tot he creature's proper type

[manic bobcat]

i have a pet that have that same skill i think, boost then bigger boost then big attack

and cant do anything through the 3 turns

[manic bobcat]

yeah that would synergize well with the charged attack

[sage summit]

I like how this channel went from simple lil guys being called adorable or whatever, to an immediate shift of team builds and stats type shit lol

[vivid coyote]

We can still post silly images 😄

[manic bobcat]

the update turned our cute fauna to pokemon 😭

[tranquil zephyr]

Completely revised the movesheet now that I actually have the game files that tell me these things
Abbreviated the milestone creature names in the notes for simplicity, and added value multipliers for their moves based on that stat in the files
Remember, the Worth Using category is subjective. If you want to use a different move than I recommend, go for it
Fingers crossed this is the final version...

[sage summit]

Got them fauna out on the streets smoking a cig after a dog fight lol

[vivid coyote]

AND dapper fellas 😄

[half mesa]

hey this goober with A/S/S (ha) stats is somewhat cute. or goofy rather >:3
(purple system. i think. i forgor already)

[tranquil zephyr]

literally the cheshire cat

[sage summit]

I got a fire type pet that does this move called White Hot. It basically straps a bomb on the enemy lol

[prime gate]

I'd argue that it's what makes S-tier battles shine. There's still some jank in creatures base skills as well, which leads to weird matchups too...

But a shield is absolutely useful to stave off one-shots or let a creature do two fights instead of one; reflective shields are free damage WITH protection. Heals plus shields / debuffs also provide staying power. Element-changers are also absolutely useful as layering bigger damage too, while not specifically on that turn.

Most creatures I own atm have good skill synergy, but some are weird. Off-element single-turn attacks are a big miss imo. I stack my teams for element damage, so that's a loss on dps right there.

[manic bobcat]

fire pets are too evil, all their attacks are cruel

[tranquil zephyr]

if you dont have an enemy dispel move and they use the self destruct that gives the rest of the team +defense it's very hard to break thru it

[vivid coyote]

And yet, if you play it right, your number one monster might have the right off-suit to hit the foe's second play 😄
Could also prove more useful in unknown battles against other players where the team is a mystery

[sage summit]

The mechanized pets are funny af. My sentinal dog pet can kill themselves to give everyone ekse an insane attack boost lol

[tranquil zephyr]

all moves are standardized any type can get any move
though per creature or species it might be limited to a select amount in the total slot pool
haven't seen any evidence in the game files that certain moves are type exclusive

[vivid coyote]

not just mechs. I have a desert bug that does this and a tonguebeast that does it as well, and a horse that gives a defense boost

[sage summit]

Aw fair lol

[vivid coyote]

i think I actually saw 130% on one 😄

(but it had c health so I let it go)

[covert remnant]

wow those CDs on Oceanus's pets are wild

[tranquil zephyr]

yep all over the place

[covert remnant]

does anyone have/know a cool SSS Frost pet? everything frost on YT and NMSCE is basic-ass cows and antelopes

[manic bobcat]

havent found one on my own yet

found a couple SSA

[unreal dawn]

bro you have the glyf of the bonecat?

[woeful depot]

How do I get one of these living ships

[vivid coyote]

make sure you have the glyphs first, you need them to complete the questline.
(at least, the first 12 of the 16)
then get a VOID EGG from quicksilver on the anomaly. That will start your quest. It takes a week to mcomplete as there are time delays worked into it.

[haughty rapids]

snekmoth acquired

[prime gate]

Oooh. I haven't done any pvp yet. Just npc battles. Fair point! Though at that, I'd try to opt to force its element to my advantage instead of an off-element basic.

[vivid coyote]

even the shit skills, like "stun foe one round" have a purpose if they're on the right beast... imagine, you've got the bomb effect about to proc and your foe is waiting till the last minute to cleanse....

[twilit dune]

Any wolf like Fauna ?

[vivid coyote]

doglike yes, not really wolflike / depends how much you're willing to bend your eye

[vivid coyote]

Are these wolves?

[daring seal]

Puppy

[daring seal]

Yeah I saw them b4

[vale violet]

they pretty cool lookin and the ride animation is unique

[prime gate]

Or if you know they're doing the "drop defense by 100% turn one, mega elemental blast turn two" combo and they're committed - a one turn stun is golden. Also messes up the "power up" sequence attack too, when well placed. Envenom, on all my toxic beasts.

[lusty fractal]

Lf Arena Battles lvl 30

[raw zodiac]

Brought one of my friends to snag one of my triple S antelopes and their screenshot of a wild one is a perfect match for mine, so seems to debunk there being stat differences in species for different players?

[sullen cipher]

Anomalous in Galaxy 47

Frost in Galaxy 47

[sharp summit]

How did I get 100% trust? this is my pet I've had for three years or longer, I don't remember how I got it to 100% trust though.

[plush yew]

how MANY senses?

[tall briar]

Turns out for fighting, high Helpfulness, Aggression, and Independence can cause bonus moves to be played

[sharp summit]

I think it happens if any of the traits are high enough. I have a high gentle pet that triggers lockjaw on its own.

Happy with how this egg turned out Just need the trust stat to be 100%

[vivid coyote]

Devotion seems to be linked to bonus heals,
Helpful seems to be linked to bonus (combat?) buffs on self,
Gentle seems to be linked to bonus (combat?) debuffs on foe,

[vivid coyote]

Oh.. it neutrals the next stage completely? doesn't just delay it.. I should have thought of that.