nms-the-future

[stone topaz]

I want automation

Give me Satisfactory, but in NMS

[hazy geyser]

speed boat when

[gloomy hazel]

Five years later and the planets still don’t rotate/orbit

I know why I just think it’s silly to poke at

[gloomy hazel]

Was in the game in the beta

Beta testers reported it as a bug

So they removed it

Because they gave a space game to people who don’t know anything about space

Yeah I remember hearing about that

And yeah lol to the last part hahahaha

I think it’s one of the save points that has a spinning hologram of a planet

And I’m just looking at it like 😃

It would be odd to have real orbits around the local star

because all the planets are at most a minute pulse away from each other

while the star is infinitely far away

distance proportions aren’t right

if the planets orbited the star, there’d have to be a way of passing by the star

which u can’t do

so

I imagine outer wilds

But it’s still difficult

[hard wedge]

give me mindustry, but in space

[gray shell]

cause people would be flying into the star and blowing up their ships

[gloomy hazel]

Easy fix

just don’t have the star interact with you at all

like in star citizen

[gray shell]

true

would be funny though

[potent juniper]

Yeah but that's one of the appeals of having stars in a system, what if I want to blow myself up for the funny?

I think it'd work, though - if you're pulsing toward a place that's behind a planet your ship immediately alters course in a broad circle around said planet. Could do the same on a larger scale for stars

[gloomy hazel]

I know it'd be a little overkill but being able to target a spot for orbital bombardment if your freighter is in range

It'd be hilarious to see sentinel walkers get vaporized by your ship's giant guns

[brazen nova]

Next the planets should be disc shaped instead of spherical 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃

[brazen nova]

It should be brought back in an update!

[gloomy hazel]

Sphere shaped starships get my vote. Flying orbs

[brazen nova]

Flying saucers!

[sand slate]

Yes! Old school 60’s UFO’s for ships

I’d pay for it

[gloomy hazel]

The orb shaped cockpits are the best for me, with such a wide view. Makes sense to add some sphere starships in there

Let's go Sean, go go go.

[visual cloak]

yes, but a multi-purpose sphere starship. One that also can land and roll on terrain

[teal pagoda]

So what will the next update be?

If not counting expeditions

[gloomy hazel]

big

[visual cloak]

|| pretty largeish ||

[gloomy hazel]

at least 6 gigs

[analog needle]

Final expedition redux ends tomorrow. Update teaser imminent?

[ruby aspen]

perhaps

i hope

[visual cloak]

or they just end and we enter a 6 month long no news limbo

[gloomy hazel]

Excited

This redux is most definitely filler

and what a long filler it’s been

they’re clearly working on something gigantic

[torn fractal]

4.0 and I hope it's something real special

[gloomy hazel]

watch it be 3.8

[visual cloak]

If it’s 4.0, i kinda hope they’ve been working on it for more than a year

3.8 most likely

[timid vigil]

Isn't mindustry already in space?

The more I think about it, the more a ship interior/combat overhaul would be a massive boost to the game.

Middling combat is the only thing that seperates this game from the other space sims out there.

[hard wedge]

on a single planet, in 2d, in waves

and its not procedural

[timid vigil]

Yeah but to be fair you didn't really mention any of those parts

Tbh I think it's supposed to be on earth?

But like post appocalypse

[fiery elk]

Would love a better way to customize eggs so you can actually see what it will look like and stuff

[hard wedge]

all i meant by what i said was i wanted the automation of mindustry in no mans sky

taking what the guy saif esrlier and adding mindustry over satisfactory

[brazen nova]

This is what the game is still missing haha 🛸🛸🛸

[sand slate]

Maybe it could be a 4th (5th? 6th??) Species

[strange slate]

More space stuff. Maybe certain space biomes and reachable stars. And lovecraftin monsters in space

[sand slate]

I had an idea of anomaly planets, not like what's already in the game, but planets that are hidden or "rouge" that can only be accessed if you find it or portal to it

[visual cloak]

good idea. Maybe procedural nebulous areas in space that house a new rare set of procedural flora and fauna

[glad storm]

new pets 0-0

[visual cloak]

a buildable campfire asset that promotes the nomad life, instead of just having a fireplace that promotes settling in to one spot

maybe even give the campfire building mechanics, so it dulls down and dies out over time, but you can add wood to it

and easy to build elsewhere

without a base computer

[gloomy hazel]

Procedural Aliens would be a nice addition, adding more life. Have no idea how the creatures are so different though it would be cool to see some additional life on planets & stations

[gloomy hazel]

We have that already

They’re called Fauna

I'm referring to NPC like characters. But thanks for the brash response.

[visual cloak]

i think NPCs are procedurally generated

all the assets and locations and such

[gloomy hazel]

They do look very different. Love that about the 3 races & Fauna.

[visual cloak]

would be interesting if there was a new race that pulled from the assets of fauna

to make it look like the fauna evolved

[glad storm]

ye the npcs are procedurraly generated based off a seed but like fauna they have parts that switch out

[strange slate]

I think a new race that lives on asteroids would be cool. It would also add a lot of new story and lore

[gloomy hazel]

And it would also go against the existing lore @strange slate

[strange slate]

Fair, but it could fit in that they have been hidden and where ||created by the atlas to help breach a certain problem in the sim ||

Heavy spoilers under the bar

[hot flame]

There is already mention of a fourth race in the lore, as well as the travellers and anomalies

Go check out the archives peoples

[gloomy hazel]

the travellers are the fourth race

[hot flame]

Nope

[gloomy hazel]

[hot flame]

There is a seperate aquatic race mentioned

[gloomy hazel]

4.0 subnautica update

were the logs’ addition pre-abyss?

[hot flame]

Post

[gloomy hazel]

fascinating

i bet it’s just a lore piece. the implications of a fourth race being added for GAMEPLAY would go against the lore then

i suppose that aquatic race (not sure if it mentions intelligence) is just an incidental chain of evolution in this universe’s iteration

but not a constant across all universes in the same way the three races are

[true crater]

fluid movement

[hot flame]

Fully sentient, knew the gek/korvax/vy'keen

[gloomy hazel]

interesting

[true crater]

mermaid waifu confirmed?

the water-surface transitions are what makes me think NMS would benefit from natural movement

pretty janky

harmless but distracting

To be fair I too have trouble deciding when to switch from swim mode and back to walking again in shallow water

[true crater]

elevators

[visual cloak]

yes please

[true crater]

procedural culture

history etc

to reduce anonymous soup backdrop

[gloomy hazel]

Just browsing the wiki. Quite cool that you can start an actual company in nms

[true crater]

terrain heightmap saving for bases

no caves but it gets you persistent terrain edits

for cheap on the kilobytes

[gloomy hazel]

you should tell all this to hg directly tbh

[true crater]

idk how

[gloomy hazel]

!hg

[misty iris]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[gloomy hazel]

like that

[true crater]

oh it looks like the base saves some terrain

up to a limit

and only after the computer is put down? So don't do edits before computer and you should be okay?

and updates might break it

[true crater]

base building tower defense minigame

xD

[uncut wasp]

Build turrets to shoot at the regrowing terrain!

[gloomy hazel]

hostile humanoid npcs in derelict freighters as if space pirates killed the crew and took over the place. same thing would be interesting with operational freighters and planetside bases. i know the game's focus is more along the lines of exploration but i wouldn't mind more intense opt in combat scenarios for people who want to test their mettle for huge rewards.

[teal pagoda]

so most people are agreeing on that some kind of a planet update should be added?

the planets almost need skyrim amount of work

because the game is about exploration anyway

[strange slate]

Yeah agreed, but Sean you have to remember the technical capabilities of that. It’s already impressive to have a entire system with no loading screens, and having each planet with its own biome would be a feat if it’s self.

But knowing Sean and his team, they will figure it out somehow

[strange slate]

Wait, there’s evidence of a fourth race?

[hot flame]

Looking back at my notes, it seems more likely it is an entity rather than a species

Maybe

Korvax honoured fallen - Tried to bring back Atlantid, birthed failed Eggs

[true crater]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnFj3dOKcIQ&t=10s

seems like they maybe just don't want to bite the bullet on the simulator aspects

AI can do it

[teal pagoda]

they need to add stuff like rivers and maybe different biomes on planets

because when you land on a really cool looking planet, you will walk around on it for maybe 10 seconds and go to the next one unless you're building a base

[deft prawn]

Well that's not entirely true

[teal pagoda]

you walk around for 10 sec because you just know that it's the same stuff everywhere on the planet

well maybe not 10 sec

i mean not for that long

[deft prawn]

Most people do that, but then again, there are those who actually like to take the time and discover things

[teal pagoda]

maybe a couple of minutes

[deft prawn]

Nah

I get what you mean tho

[teal pagoda]

i've played for 300 hours so that's maybe why

[visual cloak]

there’s simply a ton they could do to improve NMS, but i sometimes wonder if it would be worth doing to a 5 year old game. Maybe a sequel is best. idk

[deft prawn]

But there are people who actually enjoy the tedious discoveries

[true crater]

the anonymous soup is a solvable issue

[teal pagoda]

but it gets kinda repetitive after 50 hours

[deft prawn]

I would look at #explorers-archive and #nms-photomode-gallery

[true crater]

it's not a fundamental one

[teal pagoda]

i've been on many planets that look like those

but still look cool

[deft prawn]

Not any pictures in specific

[teal pagoda]

but it doesn't make me wanna go further

[true crater]

the generators are good

they just need to be spiced up a bit

[deft prawn]

But just how people still go and discover and map stuff in the planet

On the planets*

[teal pagoda]

it's the same all over the planet

that's my point

the same terrain

[deft prawn]

That's a perfectly valid point, if that's what you think 👍🏻

I'm just saying that to some people, it's not the same, that's all

[teal pagoda]

i actually do find it a bit entataining when a hostile creature attacks me

so if they could make pirates walk freely around some planets

and they would attack you sometimes

would definitely be more fun

[visual cloak]

i think a fresh start will be the most positive outcome for a lot of these new ideas and changes to planets

[teal pagoda]

idk

[visual cloak]

I’ve found that even if the game gets an update I hope for, I don’t get as much enjoyment out of it. simply because of how much time i’ve put into the game

but also because the game has shifted into something i don’t like as much

so it sorta just keeps shifting into something i dislike more and more. unfortunately

[true crater]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bcZb-SsnrA

you take like half their handcrafted assets and plug it into ai as a training model and I'd bet you'd get something usable

do they do maths?

like the market crashing issue could easily be solved with a continuous calculation. ik as a fix that might end up being controversial but as a maths problem it seems pretty straightforward

the wavefunction collapse seems like a good fit for NMS tbh

like using it you might end up with something weird like two barber shops right next to each other

but the barber shops will like, be connected to the ground and look like barber shops

[visual cloak]

i could get 2 haircuts

[true crater]

exactly

it's neat as a development tool too

if you wanted to reskin a certain system you could just use the exact same content map connecting all the models

and just substitute them

[visual cloak]

this is all over my head. people in the modding channel might have a better grasp on what you’re suggesting

[true crater]

"Oh this is like that outlaw system I was in last week. But this one is like, more run down and crummy"

generator decides "this one is an outlaw system"

and then

"poverty slider = 95%"

ig the wave function collapse is cpu intensive though

since it's deterministic

like some generators can just plop a flower in midair based on coordinates

and then figure out what kind of terrain should be under it separately

but wavefunction collapse requires those happen in order

so it's good for small complicated things that might be worth the processor time but bad for big things

[tribal burrow]

Minor terraforming? Like changing grass color

Also removing sentinal activity with a big fight

I'm so mad when I find a perfect planet eccept one detail bothers me

[sand slate]

Having a way to change the sentinels would be amazing

[strange slate]

?

[wispy void]

Do we think that they would ever introduce a new faction/race? It'd be super cool to get some more variety

[true crater]

ok so its not "just maths"

[umbral geyser]

The four are already established part of the lore and mechanics, highly doubt they'll ever do that

[teal pagoda]

He mean maybe am entire new one to the lore and the universe

[umbral geyser]

I know, it just wouldn't feel right
Cause then the "there's only these, and only these for this specific reason" we've been hearing through the entire lore would be dumped

[teal pagoda]

I didn't even know there was a lore

[umbral geyser]

Well there is, and can learn about it anywhere and through the main quests

So

[brazen nova]

I think all the other races are included within the Traveler race, since Travelers have a huge variation in appearance.

[hot flame]

That's one handsome fella, 4 down from the top

[brazen nova]

From classic Grey (Artemis and me) to tree person (Iteration Helios).

[brazen nova]

🤣🤣🤣

[hazy geyser]

Wait THEIRS
A cat!!!

[hot flame]

Yes

[teal pagoda]

it would be cool to see geonosian-like hive worlds with catacombs

weird bee looking things attacking you in swarms

[sand slate]

I'm talking about on certain planets, the "temperament" of sentinels can be obnoxious, especially when you find a close to perfect planet. If there was a way to alter the sentinels to be less aggressive, or maybe more aggressive for whatever reason, that would pretty neat

[leaden peak]

I hope that in the future we're able to deter sentinel forces somehow, whether that being destroying an occupying mothership or an on-ground base. they can even make it only pc or next gen 🤷‍♂️

[languid lance]

all I want is my own spacestation

[dense gulch]

I doubt this would happen but a crossover promotion with insomniac games and a lombax species added or a expedition involving rifts

That would be dope

[potent juniper]

I just wanna be able to torch the sentinel cruisers

[languid lance]

but what is the space station override unit for

why is it in the game

wth

[zenith marten]

Actual trade screen for game where each person has to accept the trade. Prevents people from dropping random junk in your inventory all the time

@brave plinth @crimson stone something like this would be nice

continuing our earlier convo about trading being potato

[crimson stone]

hmm

[zenith marten]

you could select a slot and put your items there for the trade

then each person needs to accept the trade

[crimson stone]

yes but how does that menu pop up

[zenith marten]

you invite them to trade, similar to how you invite to group

just use another button

[crimson stone]

hmm

[zenith marten]

but like

[crimson stone]

yeah u use another button

[zenith marten]

so like, if it's square for group invite, triangle could be trade invite on controller

[brave plinth]

I'm fine with that.
I've often praised the trading system in the Borderlands game because it allows both players to agree tot he terms

[zenith marten]

then you'd see that random anomaly player wants to give you 1x junk like carbon and decide not to accept

[brave plinth]

and block lol

[crimson stone]

its ironice how it took us 6 years to not really ask for new stuff

but to just polish what we already have

[true crater]

||NMS Isekai anime when||

[true crater]

So from what I understand a lot of the issue with NMS is from some of it's bigger assets

Much of the game is generated which is a big win

but it complicates things

the gameplay environment is stateless, being generated on the fly

but a lot of things the player needs and does is stateful, like base creation

[true crater]

the generation is contextless to prevent rejection and allow for seamless loading, but that limits adjacency and association

the statefullness seems like a hard problem. Potentially no solution for that

[umbral geyser]

What

[true crater]

like you can't edit the terrain or have something drop on the ground (states) and make that change persistent across players because it requires data storage and transmission, which becomes an intractable

the game is stateless

[umbral geyser]

You dont seem to acknowledge the sheer size of the game, doing that would dramatically increase the size of the game, the savefiles and would require a massive upgrade to the game's servers

[true crater]

right, the statelessness isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just creates limitations

I was talking in the general chat about how distributed computing might be a solution

p2p or player hosted private instances would allow small groups of players to provide the resources in data storage and transmission themselves if they want that

so I start a base on a planet, show it to my friend and they like it

we agree to start a private instance and that unlocks stateful content that would normally only be possible in singleplayer

it'd allow hg to circumvent the statefullness issue in singleplayer, without compromising a multiplayer experience. the content could still work, you just have to host it yourself.

but that like, fractionalizes multiplayer or something? Then you've got multiple multiplayer modes? which is kind of weird

[gleaming osprey]

👀

[strange slate]

Dang it. Accident edited this on accident

[leaden peak]

any speculation on when the next update will come? It's been a while since I've been on but there's nothing for me to do.

[hot flame]

It feels like soon

But no real info

[leaden peak]

yeah I was thinking that, they're definitely hard at work.

[hot flame]

🤞

[true crater]

concept: follow-the-leader/scavenger hunt type cooperative mission where players follow breadcrumbs to find something

each player gets assigned a segment of some long, winding path through space

after completing your segment the next player can come along and continue

pass the torch style

Would that be fun?

Could be as big/small as needed to make it fun. Could be some week long campaign with a whole ton of segments or shorter instance scale quest

people might just log in with a different save to continue it like they're in singleplayer though :(

and tying it to account seems a little forced

[true crater]

Would a tower defense base building minigame be fun?

[true crater]

space walks

has hello games said anything about zero G features? if it's on the table

[zenith marten]

If done right it would

[true crater]

what to fight

sentinels ? lol

seems wrong

would need something new to fight

[zenith marten]

probably something coming from the Void

they've been teasing the Void and some sinister force for a good 2-3 years for now

Also remember when they added base turrets in the files around Beyond release that were never utilized
#nms-modding message

[true crater]

It'd be cool to combine some sort of tower defense game into the basebuilding but then integrate it with combat on foot

so you could let your base ai shoot some baddies but also help on foot

or run around manning the turrets

integrating them would be the hard part

[zenith marten]

For base turrets to have any reason to exist we would need to have the long awaited controversial combat update

People really tend to pick extreme sides on that topic

[true crater]

I kinda like the way terraria made their tower defense minigame

you flip a switch to turn it on and bring enemies

it doesn't just happen

so you can sorta ignore it but you loose out on content

having it only happen on certain planets would be a good way to implement it potentially

if you don't want to do it just don't base there

[zenith marten]

Something like that. Maybe we could get a buildable base item like "Reality Fracturer" or something that would rip open gateways to the Void dimension or even World of Glass from where enemy waves would start spawning around our base

We could earn new titles, nanites and upgrade modules from successful waves. Or even some rare unseen tech

[true crater]

should it be a part of settlements? or is that weird

wait how would that work

hmm

[zenith marten]

I guess settlements would be more optimal for tower defence. Sentinel attacks on settlements are a joke. They don't damage the NPCs or buildings. You can win every fight by going away from the settlement for sentinels to despawn

Bases are too wild and can be built in a way that would make towerd defense extremely easy.

With settlements it would make more sense since you could only place turrers to specific spots perhaps

And enemy AI could navigate through settlement streets slowly towards the center to destroy it

[true crater]

tower defense update seems a little risky

but potentially very very cool

I played a shitty game called Fortresscraft Evolved that did tower defense in 3d

it did an okay job

not so much the base game but the DLC was a little better

base game enemies just fly in a straight line from the "nest" to your base center

if there's anything in the way they blow it up

[zenith marten]

Welp. Tower defence for settlements wouldn't be that risky. Nobody in their right mind can think that current sentinel raids at our settlement are good content 😅

[true crater]

the DLC has you fighting a flood of goo, creeperworld style

[zenith marten]

It's an easy win always. Either throw a few grenades on them or just fly away.

[true crater]

yeah

it seems like a stand-in potentially

like

"we want something here so this will do for now"

god I say that but what if they worked really hard on that

it do be like that sometimes

😅

hmm what kind of enemies

pirates?

||Balloons???||

just rip off creeperworld and let us fight the abstract concept of evil water

the enemies would have to be something special to no mans sky

[zenith marten]

Well it did say they introduced a concept of them

I interpreted it as just the first look/presentation of the mechanic

[zenith marten]

continuing this

[true crater]

Tower defense.

[zenith marten]

Yeah. Seems more like a groundwork for something more to come

[true crater]

Tower. Defense.

trouble is

[zenith marten]

Tower defense

Imagine stuff like turrers, shield generators etc for our settlement

[true crater]

what if someone gets really good handheld weapons from other content and just wrecks the tower defense enemies on foot

if you don't do the tower defense minigame for a long time and then you come to check it out it'd be weird to be suddenly OP in it

but it'd also play bad to take that away from players

what terraria does is it lets you use the non-tower defense weapons, but scales them to the minigame

iirc

[zenith marten]

Well NMS also scales sentinel difficulty with your multitool but the scaling is really potato and won't really do a good job at it

you can still one shot everything with plasma grenades

[true crater]

yeah no

if it's a tower defense mode then you should need towers

you can introduce new handheld weapons specific for the tower defense mode

"sorry your old weapons don't work on these enemies"

but that kinda sucks too

lmao

hard not to make it tacked-on

that's why I say risky

[zenith marten]

still wondering when they'll officially implement the incinerator weapon

been in game since Desolation

[true crater]

why is combat update controversial?

[zenith marten]

Some people get very upset about even mentioning it. They'll kick and cry that combat doesn't belong into NMS and NMS is not a combat game

[true crater]

I mean I wouldn't mind pve

[zenith marten]

I can't see why ppl get upset about even that. It's not like they would be forced into a small cube with enemies and had to just stay there to fight them until the end of time 😅

[true crater]

Combat would just be a mechanic?

and I get the impression you can pretty much circumvent most mechanical content by just making $$$ ???

[zenith marten]

Mechanical improvements and new optional missions and content to play

Not something like "Okay, now 100 enemies will rip you to pieces if you can't do 360 noscope trickshots"

[true crater]

lmaooo

yeah combat =/= skill game

that's sorta why I suggest tower defense

[zenith marten]

Well people against combat update seem to think it has to be some first person shooter insanity

[true crater]

it's like combat but not skill game

if you don't want the badge at the end of the combat content then you should just be able to... do something else? The game should have lots of content? Content is not a bad thing?

seems obvious

[zenith marten]

Things I would like to be improved about combat.

• dodge/roll/dash for character
• personal shield generator pointing directly where you look at
• crouching behind cover
• more threat types with better AI
• enemy/sentinel difficulty scaling properly

[brave plinth]

Theres a very vocal minority that wants Rust with star ships, and theres a very vocal majority that thinks anyone that wants a combat update wants Rust with star ships.
It is understandably a controversial topic

[zenith marten]

I don't really wish for any thousand explosions electric boogaloo PvP mega space war sim

Just general improvements and such

Some more optional content around combat. Pirates and sentinels are just nothing but little flies to squish

[zenith marten]

Would like to add freighter turrers and lasers actually being a threat and dealing more damage than your starship.

It's just odd that a huge capital ship has way less firepower than a tiny ship

[brave plinth]

Quite often, players say stuff like, "oh, the combat could be like this game or that game," but those games are combat focused games.

Thats usually all that those games are good at

And they should be, because thats their focus

But NMS has always had combat as kind of side event to shake up the exploration.

[zenith marten]

Yeah. I'm no fan of shooter games really. You just put a bunch of ppl in a small restricted area to fight for points. Not exactly what I'd call fun or progressive gameplay

But the fact that NMS is not a primarily combat focused game isn't a reason to hold off from improving that aspect.

NMS wasn't originally a building or online focused game either but HG still pushed those aspects forward

[brave plinth]

True, it could have expanded upon combat, at least with pve. But the kind of ideas often thrown around is grinding for raid bosses and looting player bases.

[zenith marten]

Some type of rare "boss enemy" encounters wouldn't be that bad of an idea.

Take the sentinel mothership or that giant glowy eye spaceworm for example. They seem very threatening when you first meet them but soon notice it's all just smoke and mirrors.

But yeah. Base raids or some insane MMO raid boss where hundreds of ppl keep it under grenade rain for several minutes isn't exactly the stuff that I imagine for NMS combat update 😅

[true crater]

roll
https://preview.redd.it/rhyy84d0xm661.gif?format=mp4&s=f6cc1fc63654c2a09fac02a4c8462f6013c49121

https://c.tenor.com/MofK-iRXgMAAAAAC/risk-of-rain2-oh-yeah.gif

rust but with spaceships sounds bad yeah

crouch seems kinda basic and might come in handy in other places

[true crater]

caves or smthn idk

[zenith marten]

These are the UI improvement I'd like to see added

Not exactly in this way ofc but something similar

[umbral geyser]

That'd be cool

Though the wheel is kinda weird

[zenith marten]

It's sad that so few games use radial menu for consoles when they got thumbsticks that can very quickly and intuitively navigate a wheel

Just from overall game and UIX design perspective.

[true crater]

oh yeah uh

combat actions need to be maped onto a controller

rip

I honestly don't mind having like 40 keys to control a character

[zenith marten]

Instead many opt to use dpad to scroll through stuff which adds a few seconds and interrupts game flow

[brave plinth]

Well, i can run while using the dpad

I cant run if im using a radial menu

[zenith marten]

Often used actions could be instantly binded to dpad keys from radial menu. Or radial menu nav wheel could be right stick

I'd have hazard recharge in dpad down, ship summon at dpad up and multitools 1 and 2 at dpad left and right

or just in a secon change one dpad keys to photo mode if I had to freeze the game quickly while doing some character moves

[brave plinth]

Ive never seen a radial menu that goes more than 1 level deep

[true crater]

to be fair people write bad reviews over the 3 times in their playthrough they selected something wrong in a radial menu so

[brave plinth]

How would you use it for the actions that require several levels

Such as summoning a specific ship or exocraft

[umbral geyser]

Warframe's item wheel has like 5 if you slot it all

[zenith marten]

Have 3 radial menus that you cycle through with L1 and R1 while having radial menu open

[true crater]

pretty sure japanese text messaging uses entirely radial menus

for the whole language

so

radial menus have a lot of power if people learn them

[brave plinth]

How is that relevant?

Sorry, just the language was so out of left field to me lol

[true crater]

it's just a form of interface

[zenith marten]

You'd be surprised how intuitive a radial menu is for console/controller if implemeted correctly. Just ask any game UIX designer or game design student.

[brave plinth]

Yeah, but the current one isn't broken.

And a new radial menu would just introduce problems that the radial now has to solve.

Thats my issue with it.

It works well in some games but theres a reason its not super popular

[true crater]

maybe

[zenith marten]

Well some people had hard time getting used to the new build menu grid after years of getting the quick menu building parts in muscle memory

Even tho it is more intuitive and professional from UIX design standpoint

[true crater]

facebook

[zenith marten]

For example. There are some things HG did break or make harder with new build menu but it doesn't mean the entire concept is flawed. They can still solve those issues. Same applies to potential radial menu

[zenith marten]

Meta

One potential fix for running issue. Add auto run toggle for consoles as well! Exists on PC version.

Very lovely feature when you want to manage inventory whilst still moving towards something

[jolly flicker]

wen news ser, wen my update

[gloomy hazel]

I hope we get the ability to recruit non capital freighters to join our fleet.
They could add extra storage modules to the main freighter

[gloomy hazel]

Would be good to have an option to transfer items to freighter secondary storage, without having to manually transfer items from the main storage.

[azure valve]

can you make something about those random requests for help from npcs? I don't always carry around metal plating, and when they ask me for help, I'd like to have a minute or two to craft it so they can stop looking at me like the megamind meme.

[azure valve]

A way to customize my own spaceships, it would be cool.

[visual cloak]

surprised it hasn’t happened yet

it’ll happen

[gloomy hazel]

Being able to build in caves / better caving

[visual cloak]

caves could use a massive overhaul. terrain, assets, colors, fauna, etc.

Look at examples like deep rock galactic and how those are procedurally generated

of course they have the above ground generation to worry about as well, but still.

[gritty maple]

Being able to convert ps5 saves to ps4 to be able to play in vr. Now that ps5s are becoming more prevalent this is important

[umbral geyser]

Absolutely, rn they're very poor

Really want to see an overhaul update at some point

[gloomy hazel]

Maybe some halo style gravity lifts

Or that one alien lift from subnautica

Would be cool for the taller builds

[gloomy hazel]

Guess I'm the one with too many suggestions lol

Would like to see some particle emitters like smoke or steam, could make a pretty nice airlock system with them

[chrome patio]

I'd love to see hello game bring snap rotation back but keep what they have

They didn't need to remove x axis rotation either

[violet vortex]

that'd be lovely for sure. i remember @hot flame commenting on that as well iirc. not sure if he ever submitted it as a suggestion to HG. i'll post a link below in case you'd like to make an official suggestion via their zendesk

!hg

[misty iris]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[weak dagger]

Do you guys think they'll add cross save functionality in the future, I'd really like to continue my progress on a save that currently lies dormant on my xbox, though I could legitimately continue playing on that console, I would have to compromise much of the benefits I receive playing on more capable hardware, which is bit of a drawback, and even still last gen consoles may lose support eventually.

[violet vortex]

It'd be nice. At least with "GamePass" Xbox PC and console, cross-save works. But obvs everyone prefers Steam cuz save editor & mods. It'd be nice if HG can pull that off with the other platforms.

[brave plinth]

Sorry if I'm totally wrong here, but can't you transfer an xbox save to PC?
If so, there's a way to convert a save from MS store/Gamepass version save to Steam using the save editor.
I realize there's still an ask for cross-save, but figured I'd mention that in the case of your old xbox save.

[humble wind]

I think a tower defence mode for freighters and bases would be cool, make the PvP a bit more robust.

[weak dagger]

No you’re right, I literally just thought to look this up now and spent a dollar on game pass (which I will cancel as soon as I’m finished) to have two of the same game download on my computer for this.

[brave plinth]

Dev Pixy just helped someone out with this earlier in #nms-modding, so maybe read through that convo for insight. I hear the process is a bit involved but at least its an option

[weak dagger]

Okay thanks, I’ll have a look

[solemn copper]

When do you guys think we'll be getting a new update?

[teal pagoda]

maybe march

i wanna kill civilians

if we could have an update like that

i can raid settlements

planetary pirates and gangs

[calm hill]

This is a post on Reddit written by "UW24V9ZG7W" that I came across and resonated with in my own experience. Since I can't post photos here yet, I'll just cite the entire post in 3 parts:
"I don’t need a heart of the sun or rememberance stone. I don’t need a settlement or a fleet that makes less units than the investment should return and provides no enjoyable experience, just McMuffin chasing. I don’t need to follow any story or missions to get glyphs since the game was originally designed to operate with a player finding travelers (which takes about an hour or so to get all 16, far less time than the emotionless main quest)."

"So I think since I’ve paid for this game, and invested over 3000 hrs on a couple of accounts and multiple maxed characters, I feel it only correct to ask: Sean!? Can you PLEASE add the function to turn off mission prompts in a semi permanent way, (like pretty much EVERY other game ever) so I can actually go ten minutes without Artemis and his annoying friends trying to page me constantly?!? The settlements as well? All those vulnerable settlers I keep getting hipped to can burn in a firestorm for all I care. I should have the option I feel to have a clean screen and not have to read 'Contact Apollo' or be told 'Holoterminus Detected'."

"Just saying, some of us have been here awhile, soooo many characters deep, and we don’t care about the same things the other half does. Cosmetics and expeditions are cool, I don’t participate but I get how other people enjoy it, and keep giving people stuff like that it truly helps, but all I want is to have control of the game space that I’m supposed to have and not feel advertised to by missions and such that will get me nowhere except annoyed when I’ve done the countless times and am fully aware it’s not worth it. Thanks for reading."

[gloomy hazel]

A lot of words for "hide mission prompts".
I agree though, would be nice to have the option to disable them.

[silk viper]

That’s a lot of words

Someone feels very strongly about not liking missions

But I can see the point you are making here

[calm hill]

Especially since certain missions have become way obsolete and unnecessary after past updates.

[gloomy hazel]

I weirdly just became blind to the prompts. I'd very much appreciate the ability to hide though. 👌

[silk viper]

Same here. I just learned to ignore them.

[brave plinth]

I wouldnt mind either a fully immersive no-HUD option (ie, lat-long coords, etc) or a partial no-HUD that still shows location markers.
As for on-screen mission updates, I just select New Beginnings and it hides the tooltips 90% of the time. 🤷‍♂️

[hot flame]

Play creative

[brave plinth]

Oh yeah, doesnt the Creative Mode "mission" hide tool tips too?

[hot flame]

It tells you nothing, unless you initiate a quest

[hazy geyser]

i dont like that
lot of words

[lethal nimbus]

Because the majority is just shitting on the game lol

[stone sparrow]

Is anyone beginning to think that HG is slowing down the development of NMS to start work on another project? We haven't received much word on any updates or changes that could be made? The last major update they had was Frontiers back in early September.

There's this reply on r/NoMansSkyTheGame that got me thinking about this subject:
"You're not wrong, but think of it from their perspective. They need another revenue generator to continue making money so they can continue making fun stuff, and they've already done a ton to fix this game. People generally like it now."

[astral canyon]

Imo that's a good thing on both points.

[stone sparrow]

I'm not trying to dunk on Hello Games- they're probably one of the most respectable and dedicated dev teams I've ever seen. But I've started to suspect that updates might be slowing down after 6 years of support.

[astral canyon]

Or .... They are keeping hush hush about something so grand they have planned 🤔 which is why I like Devs that don't share too much.

[stone sparrow]

But why would they consistently stay so quiet for this long? We usually just get an emoji 😆

[astral canyon]

Maybe that's the point.... Get people talking

[stone sparrow]

👀

🪱

To this day, I've never understood the emoji teases until after the update releases (except for Frontiers- still confused about that one)

[astral canyon]

Start the usual speculation that surrounds upcoming mysterious updates.... See what people can come up with that they themselves can or would add kinda thing ?? Don't know. But your right. They have been awfully quiet

[hot flame]

Over seer

[astral canyon]

In all honesty I'd love to see some sorta terraforming added. Let us build our own system with economics and the likes.... Chances off that however are pretty slim 😂

[stone sparrow]

I'd quite like to see a revamped combat of sorts- at the very least some new dungeon-like structures and new enemy types (perhaps hostile Gek, Vykeen and Korvax pirates that hunt you on land). The "fight" part of No Man's Sky isn't really explored all too much

[astral canyon]

Agreed tbh. Although I do enjoy the laid back arcade style.

[stone sparrow]

I think the combat mechanics are both functional and accessible, but there's not really much reason to fight sentinels to begin with unless you want to farm nanites or try to keep Sentinels at arm's length. More reasons to fight and enemy types would be all I'd like to see. That'd be the "fight" portion of the game sorted.

[astral canyon]

🤔🤔🤔 maybe bring back the gek as they were ??

[stone sparrow]

Maybe hostile NPCs would work- not all individuals are good eggs

[astral canyon]

Maybe bring in some new race from some other galaxy.... 👀👀

[stone sparrow]

That would work too

But dungeon-like structures with good rewards would fix things too

[astral canyon]

That's what I love about NMS. The possibilities are genuinely endless.

[stone sparrow]

Everything else with the game is almost perfect

Including Base building 🤔

[astral canyon]

I was sad to come back to the old structures being classed as legacy 😔 but obviously happy I've got them all.... Just means this save is more important than ever

[stone sparrow]

Would multi-pilot ships work?

[astral canyon]

Depends on the features... Tbh it probably could .. but actually integrating it into the game ? No idea. I ain't a developer 😂

[stone sparrow]

I wonder if they're working on new weapon types. The flamethrower was added and then removed.

And I don't think it's a coincidence that they added a big core onto the space station with apparently no function. They surely must have something else planned, right?

Maybe 4.0 🤔

[visual cloak]

I'm hoping the flamethrower means they're making improvements to the difficulty and variety of Fauna behaviors

we're dealing with alien life here, you think everything is going to come attack you physically? They could give fauna a lot of weird abilities that makes them more interesting, which they'd also use to protect themselves against other fauna and hazardous flora

[true crater]

Fix trading

Steeper buy/sell differential and continuous cost calculations so economy dumping isn't possible any more

[true crater]

demand should increase/decrease based on how many of something you buy or sell

and that adjustment should apply to the transaction you're doing, not just the transactions afterwards

[gloomy hazel]

I wish they would fix the random crashes

Or even implement a timed autosave feature

Like every 5 or 10 minutes it will drop an autosave

[hot flame]

Personally I don't want that - what if it saves while you are trapped or soft locked and your manual save is days back?

Unless it was a third save

[gloomy hazel]

I think a third save would be good

[hot flame]

Game autosave, our autosave and manual

That would be cool

[gloomy hazel]

Like have a list of recent autosaves to go to

[hot flame]

Yeah

[gloomy hazel]

I was in the process of building a skyscraper for a mine and I just finished the stairs, went to go to the save beacon and boom, black screen

That was like an hour or 2 of progress

[hot flame]

Yeah, it has happened to us all

Shared pain

[gloomy hazel]

Yep

[plain salmon]

Quick-save, auto-save, Manual-save

[stone sparrow]

I think mission synchronisation between players would be a good thing. Say if you wanted to help out a friend who's just started playing and you can both see where to go and you can share resources

Economy dumping probably shouldn't be removed, but heavily nerfed so that other methods are just as effective. Why do missions when you can just crash economy after economy and make millions in a few minutes?

[feral zephyr]

Something that could be cool but maybe its too niche its ground weapons, like lets say, cannons and turrets

Would be really cool to be able to use things like these

[plucky perch]

Might have already been said but Turrets that attach to a base that would automatically shoot sentinels in aggressive sentinel planets may be cool

[umbral geyser]

They'd have to rework the wanted system in that case, cause all your turrets would do is trigger a lvl 5+ over and over and over

[gloomy hazel]

I'd like to see some more colabs imo, I think a star wars colab would be pretty cool with some cosmetics and ships for an expedition or something. Like with the mass effect frigate.

I doubt a star wars collaboration will happen but its a cool thought

[glossy furnace]

Or star trek, would be cool to do some salvage on a Miranda or constalation class ship.

Mabe get a galaxy class or a sovereign class a capital ship.

@umbral geyser only targets corrupted sentinals maybe.

[teal pagoda]

They should make a kind of update vote thing like the Minecraft mob vote

And I doubt it's going to be abused like the glow squid because our community is smaller

[misty haven]

I'd just like to see some retractable Buzz Lightyear wings, with aerodynamic flight mechanics.

[wraith raptor]

base attacks by sentinels like the limited settlement attacks might be cool

[visual cloak]

Swamp planet assets could use a lot more variety. The giant tree stumps, the leafless trees, and the little Yoda huts are quite repetitive and could use variations to diversify these biomes.

I’m sorry, but I’m not sure what the artists were thinking. One small, round hut? why not create 3-5 variations of that with different silhouettes and different interiors?

why not allow fauna to be able to go inside and turn them into their homes?

[gloomy hazel]

2 minutes and you break that out to prove a point.

[visual cloak]

lol

[gloomy hazel]

Brilliant. I agree though.
Maybe we'll get some additions slowly overtime, I guess the assets we got on swamps now were just something to make swamp planets an immediate thing.

[visual cloak]

yeah definitely, it does feel like they were just trying to improve the variety across the entire game rather than honing in on the little details

[tribal burrow]

LESS ASTEROIDS

Please

They are everywhere

[gloomy hazel]

That’s good tho?

In space you spend most your time using a pulse drive

And if that runs out of fuel then your screwed unless there are asteroids

[visual cloak]

that seems to be the main reason yeah

though it'd be interesting if there were special asteroid clusters we could pinpoint on our star maps and warp to, maybe having common and rare ones with unique fauna and elements found in them.

[teal pagoda]

We need native alien species on planets who are intelligent enough to build and run around with a stick

They should ofc be less common than animals

Would be fun to try making peace with them

And helping them with hunting

Or mass killing them

[gloomy hazel]

Venom, the game?

[visual cloak]

Why? Are there asteroids in Venom? lol

[gloomy hazel]

The symbiotes come from an asteroid

[visual cloak]

ahhh gotcha

[true crater]

Nms genocide simulator? No thank you

[true crater]

Why

It doesn't make sense

It's so obviously just an oversight

It's not good gameplay

[teal pagoda]

Never said that

Just said that it could be an option

If they had a hitbox

[true crater]

It's bad enough making them sentient and killable

making them civilized and killable? why

it's such a weird request dude

you just want a race you can kill without contextual penalty

[teal pagoda]

Some ppl might find it fun

Not me personally

There's a difference between a game an reality

[fathom tusk]

I would for the creature slots to be extended to like limits of 20 creatures slots

[true crater]

And there's a line between fantasy writing and propaganda

[teal pagoda]

Yes

[true crater]

making a race of people that they player can kill without consequence is just an endorsement of genocide

[teal pagoda]

What if I was able to kill pirates on planets? Would that be bad?

[fathom tusk]

That would interesting

[teal pagoda]

We've seen that In loads of games

[true crater]

there's a contextual reason we're allowed to kill pirates though

because they're criminals

[teal pagoda]

Rdr2

Gta

[true crater]

not that it's okay to kill someone because they're a criminal, I think that's wrong

but in the game universe that's how they deal with it

[teal pagoda]

So many games where you can kill civilians

[true crater]

even in gta it's a crime though

if someone sees you there's consequences

[teal pagoda]

Same it could be in nms

[true crater]

bruh how

[teal pagoda]

With sentinels

Attacking you if you kill one

[true crater]

sentinels are the bad guys though

they're assholes

we're not supposed to sympathize with them

idk about rdr2

never played it

only thing I know of that comes close is something like factorio

even that has nuance

like there's no consequences because you're alone

and even for the player it might be justifiable because it's in self defense

(sorta)

[teal pagoda]

In rdr2 there's also some kind of police

[true crater]

It's just such a dangerous game to play messing around with that sorta thing dude

you're like "give some of the animals huts and sticks"

[teal pagoda]

What I meant is that intelligent lifeforms on planets can be killed (landed pilots, on trade stations, settlements etc) and if you chose to kill them, then some kind of police other than sentinels will attack you

So there can be a consequence

[true crater]

so now you either have to make up some reason it's against the law to kill them, AND give them some method of reporting it

Or risk endorsing genocide

how would that even work on like, abandoned sectors

do the people leave them behind?

or do they canonically get on the spaceships

[teal pagoda]

it should work like in rdr2

somewhat'

[teal pagoda]

if some other lifeform finds the corpse, it can report it to the police

it's literally the same with attacking friendly starships in space

have you tried that?

[true crater]

if they don't have technology then how do they send a distress signal

[teal pagoda]

omfg how can a lifeform find another one without technology

they just find it

randomly

with their eyes

we don't have technology irl either to detect dead bodies

[umbral geyser]

I mean space is a pretty big place, planets are very big
Randomly finding a corpse seems like a very long shot

[teal pagoda]

yeah

ik

so it would be on rarer ocasions

[teal pagoda]

earth is also a big place

yet there has been detected millions of murder cases

[umbral geyser]

Thats a terrible comparison
Most of nms is empty, devoid of lifeforms
Earth has over 7 billion people

[teal pagoda]

what if a certain planet in game also has that

[umbral geyser]

Then they'll solve the problem themselves without you even noticing it

[teal pagoda]

you destroy a star ship in space

a friendly one

the sentinels instantly attack you

and space is a bigger place than a planet

if some tribe lifeform is killed then it's too bad

the others besides it will try to kill you

[umbral geyser]

Sentinels are omnipresent, instant teleportation through space and through the multiverse, instantly detecting anything thanks to them being full ||part of the simulation ||

Also a terrible comparison

[teal pagoda]

you don't seem to be a fan of killing in video games?

[gloomy hazel]

He's right though. In NMS, YOU are the bad guy and Sentinels are the good guy.

[umbral geyser]

No? nms is the only game i play that has no violence incomparison

How is that relevant

[true crater]

idk

[teal pagoda]

you CAN be the bad guy

[true crater]

doesn't seem like a good fit for nms yeah

[gloomy hazel]

You are the bad guy already. You don't need to be it, you are it.

[teal pagoda]

well then i can tell

[umbral geyser]

Tell what

[teal pagoda]

that you don't like the idea

[umbral geyser]

It just doesnt fit in nms, nor realistically
Me liking violent games has no relevancy what so ever

[true crater]

new race and it's killable guys

[teal pagoda]

well then destroying friendly ships should also be removed

[umbral geyser]

Why?

[true crater]

but then you wouldn't have to worry about friendly fire

there's a mechanical and gameplay functionality to killing friendlies

[teal pagoda]

because that's killing

and that's violent

[true crater]

bruh you're so missing the point

[teal pagoda]

killing ppl that haven't done you anything

[umbral geyser]

And? the game having a sense of killing or death isnt a reason for randomly finding one corpse in a huge ass galaxy and playing chase

[true crater]

making a killable race isn't a bad idea because it's violent it's a bad idea because it's wrong

[teal pagoda]

omfg then not finding a corpse

[true crater]

why make one race of people killable but not the others

[teal pagoda]

i literally meant every

[umbral geyser]

Nms has arcady clunky combat and killing which fits the game

Super in depth murder crime hitman like system doesnt

[fathom tusk]

I wonder how Gek Vykeen and Korvax childern would look like?

[teal pagoda]

and killing on planets (not starships) doesn't fit?

[umbral geyser]

Like the first spawn gek armor set i'd assume

[true crater]

Korvax don't have children though?

canonically

Gek canonically do have children

I think vykeen too

baby korvax entity would be hella cute though

[teal pagoda]

yes

[umbral geyser]

You never mentioned just killing and thats it, you are talking about an indepth system of corpse, witnesses, tracking you down, people randomly finding a corpse and immediately accusing you

Which, doesnt fit nms

[teal pagoda]

exactly

[umbral geyser]

??????????????????????????????????? then why are you arguing

[teal pagoda]

but if you don't get a concequence then it's wrong

[teal pagoda]

NotTruePunk wanted some kind of consequence to happen so i tried to come up with one

to make it less wrong

[true crater]

yeah idk

you're like trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist and would be created

the fundamental problem is some hypothetical asymmetry in how the different species of people are handled

which... just don't introduce that problem?

[teal pagoda]

you missed the point of what i meant

your problem with it that others can be killed and others not?

[true crater]

yeah why have that

because they live in huts?

not a good look

[teal pagoda]

@true crater but then you can also kill species in trade stations and settlements

not only the native ones

every

[true crater]

I mean sure

combat update

[zenith marten]

Yeah

Combat could use some love and improvements

[zenith marten]

I shall refer back to this

[teal pagoda]

satisfying multitool reload animations

[zenith marten]

These are what I'd like to see with combat

[ashen dock]

Better movement.

Feels stiff in first person and floaty in third.

[true crater]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlndIQHtiFw

imagine that in nms

text generators are also getting a lot smarter

A smart flavor text generator would be neat

[ashen dock]

yes

Rare, procedural civilizations (alive or extinct) on planets.

[true crater]

I think the flavor text generators are intentionally vauge right now? because they're contextless?

[ashen dock]

With procedural history and beliefs you can learn via artifacts.

Passive settlements you can't claim but interact with. Give help, get rewards.

Even abandoned ones.

[true crater]

I think systems could have cohesive procgen history but idk about beyond that

like if clusters of systems are possible

[stone sparrow]

I read about an argument that anyone who wants a combat update wants Rust with starships. I think what those players really want is more PVE options and encounters, such as raids/dungeon structures that incentivise combat.

[true crater]

dungeons might be cool

[teal pagoda]

just anything fun to do on a planet

[harsh fox]

True

I wish there was a way to go fight other players like a colosseum. They could fly around and shoot if combat was smoother

[teal pagoda]

stuff like gladiator battles

or player bounties

[teal pagoda]

Btw how would you guys feel about melee weapons added?

what if the lightsaber was added

😱

Jk

[true crater]

I mean they already ripped off dune sorta

so may as well

(and subnautica lmao)

[teal pagoda]

They should ripoff star citizen

With the feeling of being in a place that isn't abandoned

[zenith marten]

Well something called a Multi-Sword is referenced in some of the NPC dialog

so maybe one day

[zenith marten]

I recommend checking out one of the player hubs if you want to feel like being in an active place. Galactic Hub is a good one to start with.

[harsh fox]

That would be sick ngl

[analog needle]

Is there really a steam internal update today?

[gleaming quest]

https://steamdb.info/app/275850/depots/

yes

[gloomy hazel]

Oh

[analog needle]

Does it... begin?

[gloomy hazel]

That could work pretty easy ngl, just replace the gun smash animation with a swing animation, boost thr damagr from it and possibly increase range

[chrome patio]

Add what they have for bases on planets to bases on freighters. Honestly the snap rotate featyre was so useful. Maybe add it but keep what we have?

[gloomy hazel]

And maybe make it look like a lightsaber xD

[urban steeple]

I would love to be able to hitch a random hyperspace ride on an npc freighter. The npc captain could give a 30sec warning before jumping with klaxons and rotating beacons going off in the hangar.

[zenith marten]

ocd really kicking in without snap rotate

can't perfectly align things

[hot flame]

There is a multisword mentioned in lore

[gloomy hazel]

Yooo

[strange slate]

Melee would be cool

[hot flame]

Could be, yep

[teal pagoda]

when are the homeplanets of species going to be revealed?

and we can travel to them?

[polar tendon]

Still waiting for the flamethrower. Need to use basalt for something. And space station override code.

[lofty forum]

Didn't korvax prime ||get destroyed?||

[misty haven]

Organizing my storage, color coding some resources... why no red gas? Could use Oxygen, but not listed as a gas. Frustrating.

[gloomy hazel]

Putting exterior decoration on ships

Like having tallies for how many ships you shot down on it or just to add more detail

[potent juniper]

I'd kill for ship decals, weathering, or 'scars' patched up from old dogfights

A touch of personalization and sentiment goes a long way

If the next big expansion is all about ships I'll never stop playing

[hexed cosmos]

god, please disable auto-hopping onto ladders

they can be used by E, auto-grabbing just makes them so annoying

[fervent delta]

I would die.

I need ladder autograb

There's a trick you can do with ladders and floors

But it only works if you have autograb

Making it an option would be optimal

[hexed cosmos]

geeeeeee

that trick sounds sus

i wouldn't mind option though, just anything to stop them from pulling me every time I try to fly on the next floor...

[fervent delta]

It involves putting a ladder under a floor so it works like a secret hatch

Perfect for underground bunkers

[hexed cosmos]

why would you need that

also when I tried using ladder to go through floor it only worked upwards, not downwards

[fervent delta]

That's my secret on how I got it to work.

Wouldn't be unique if everybody knew how to do it.

Also I play with friends

[teal pagoda]

what about the gek homeplanet or homeplanets from travelers?

[hexed cosmos]

That's my secret on how I got it to work.
@fervent delta
sounds pretty foggy, I guess the game would rather be comfortable for most than retain some secret buggy gimmic some like

[fervent delta]

I like it because I can have a rickety wooden bunker above ground on a barren world and then have a huge underground bunker under it

[hexed cosmos]

yeah but considering how rarely random players encounters are and how bases interaction works there's not much point in that secret appart from playing it on your own

[fervent delta]

My friends and I share the planet

Also it's for the aesthetic

The planet looks like Nevada

I made my own little area 51

[uncut wave]

I want gun turrets like factorio

gib daddy sean

[nova yoke]

im making a google docs and hoping i can submit it to zendesk once exam week is over lol

[loud fable]

It'd be cool if they added that. Maybe a single large pre made city that's heavily protected against Sentinels

[calm hill]

That would be fantastic, if the added cities could be as stunning as those in Everspace 2.

After all, civilizations wouldn't become intergalactic without cities.

I think more underwater content should be added as well. It could potentially be as fun as subnautica.

We can hunt ghost leviathans in our tiny nautilon.

[gloomy hazel]

Could be like asgard on a massive disc

[boreal loom]

maybe even seperate from planets, like a secondary space station

although that might be pushing the boundaries a little

[fervent delta]

I just want a space truck stop tbh

Like on a small asteroid

[boreal loom]

sounds neat

[gloomy hazel]

Or have it so that super rich systems replace the space station with a city type thing that supply’s all thr normal stuff + a few extras like complimentary lifr support refills

[boreal loom]

maybe with a sort of artificial mini atmosphere around them aswell

[gloomy hazel]

Ooh yes

[brazen nova]

This is way too fucked up

[teal pagoda]

I explained what my point was

That argument has been over for days already

[dusk yew]

please sean grace us with a warring factions update. let us board freighters and ransom the crew.

let me become a true space pirate

[weary oak]

YES!

[short nexus]

Yes

!!!

[dusk yew]

seriously

its the one update ive been wanting since that was shown before the game release all those years ago

[gloomy hazel]

Honestly just more things to do in space would be amazing, let me build a upgrade to my eco suit that allows me to do a space walk!

It could allow me to mine asteroids more Carefuly

Meaning I could get more materials/ different minerals

[radiant sage]

Ramp up multiplayer even further. Maybe colonies with multiple people and guilds??

[warped swift]

This sounds great

[potent juniper]

YESSSS,,,, add that to letting people make space bases and you'd have infinite potential

[gloomy hazel]

Omg yes

[boreal loom]

sounds amazing

[teal pagoda]

player bounty hunting

or npcs having a bounty on you

[zenith marten]

Interesting idea

[abstract cipher]

Ooo that'd be cool like if you destroy enough of that races ships(like pirates or whatever) eventually you get a bounty on you and the more of their ships you take out the higher the bounty gets

[past barn]

When will we be able to own space stations

[gloomy hazel]

Never

[past barn]

Then what will the space station override do when we get them

[pure zephyr]

How about player created or influenced planets

?

[fervent delta]

More advanced combat + player led factions

Let us wage war across systems that are marked as valuable

Let us create our own economies in those systems

Say a factory based economy we could oversee and expand so that the planets in those systems actually develop large factories that send out exports

Make it so there's upkeep for each system so you have to be able to manage multiple systems carefully so that way people can't expand too fast

Make it so the npcs require good working conditions too, otherwise productivity and morale drops

[quick saffron]

Paintable ships... because i'm in love with the color scheme that one of my ships has.

[dusk yew]

100X yes

[true crater]

War is boring

Theres ten gazillion war games out there

[pure zephyr]

Then at least interplanetary factories

[stone sparrow]

I'm not really getting too hopeful for this apparent new update. It'll probably just be an update to optimise for the Steam Deck that's coming out at the end of this month 😔 .

[rough bane]

They should make it really hard, but possible to destroy planets/stars/systems

[wicked drum]

Steam deck optimize, nintendo switch and android/ ios release on the horizon ?

A universe in your pocket literally

[gloomy hazel]

NMS is already a Valve approved game for Steam Deck. Been a part of the marketing since the first reveal.

[wicked drum]

Still I want a android version. Mobile gaming is the biggest market nowadays. And with snapdragon 865+ we have capable mobile processors that support vulkan. HG be wise and make a mobile release.

[umbral geyser]

The steam deck is just a pc, it needs no major patch

[stone sparrow]

The next thing I can think of is an Expedition 5

[stone sparrow]

They've got new decals for the community quicksilver shop. I guess there won't really be an emoji from Sean after all 😭

[zenith marten]

sadge

[gloomy hazel]

Ship customisation: you could scrap ships and it gives you specific parts of it that you can swap out on other ships

Idea came from games that let you customise your gun like COF

Do you want a laxer sight or a torch

[bold tartan]

Access galaxy map from planets

That is all

[glacial kayak]

Lawnmower. My home planet has huge "static" plants which grow back on each login. I just want a nice lawn, ok? Can I get Lawn-tiles?

[zenith marten]

See other players or at least your friends locations on galaxy map

• Multiple player freighters in system
• Freighters from players that aren't in your group syncing
• Starship trail customizations syncing to other people
• Shared bases

[bold tartan]

The galaxy map in general needs an overhaul tbh

A good point of reference would be the map in Elite: Dangerous

[hot flame]

Please no

Fix pathing to take your range into account, add a couple filters.

Stay away from the mess of elites map

[zenith marten]

this

All the features I would wish for the galaxy map are...

• custom navigation path leading all the way to the target system
• system name search function
• a way to zoom out/shrink the map
• player locations displayed live (optional toggle per player ofc)

Also simplify all economy names so that one economy type isn't visible in 5 or more different names

I always need google to see the list of economy type name variations

[brave plinth]

custom navigation path leading all the way to the target system
or at least an approximate distance so I can black hole or portal to the general area and check again.

[zenith marten]

Yes please

[potent juniper]

Better markers on the map, showing the last three systems you were in if you were warping (rather than teleporting)

[gloomy hazel]

Oooo that would be nice but i am already a enemy of the vy'keens so that will be a problem

[past barn]

I'd like to +1 this

[brazen nova]

That'd be interesting. That your actions are getting serious consequences.
Thankfully I have a decent standing with all races though.

[teal pagoda]

We need something actual interesting that we need

[stone sparrow]

I don't know whether I have much hope of any more big updates for No Man's Sky. It's reached its 6th year now, and there's only so long HG can support it when the game inevitably runs out of people who want to buy it.

[gloomy hazel]

It goes to Steam best seller almost all of the time when an update drops.

I'd say that was a pretty good sign that there's still a good amount of people still buying the game.

[stone sparrow]

I see. But surely HG have run out of steam when it comes to updates 🤔

A roadmap would be really handy 🤔

[gloomy hazel]

Why would they?
So much more to add.

Every update we've had they've added so much more than the stuff they are using to market the update.

I think NMS is one of the few games that benefits with not having a roadmap. They do their thing and release stuff when they are ready, no timelines, no promises.

[stone sparrow]

My apologies. I'm just becoming too impatient

[stone sparrow]

I never saw it like this 🙃

[gloomy hazel]

It'll be worth the wait, it always is.
They have a team solely working on NMS whilst other teams are working on other stuff. There's still more to come my dude.

[stone sparrow]

Good stuff. I've just been listening to too many rumours that they're starting to move onto other stuff

Maybe people are taking Frontiers (and 6 months of relative silence apart from Expedition 4) as a sign that updates are slowing down

I sometimes think that way too. But then I also sometimes think that Frontiers is only part of what they were planning, and that Frontiers was released to tie people over for the 5th Anniversary.

I hope I'm wrong and that the next update is going to add big things and tie up loose ends, such as those Station Override codes

[gloomy hazel]

They been teasing us with them for months, there's no way it's gunna be something small.

[stone sparrow]

How teasing?

[gloomy hazel]

Been in the game a good while with no way to use them.

See the station core everytime you head to a space station. Perfectly placed to make us notice.

[stone sparrow]

Portals didn't have a use until about a year after they were introduced

[gloomy hazel]

Yep.
I'm excited to see what they're going to do with them.

[stone sparrow]

Hopefully dungeon structures on planets would be added too

In the Anomaly, there's invisible platforms above the landing pads left in by HG, which suggests they're planning to boost the number of landing pads- possibly to match 32 player count on Xbox Seriesand PS5 consoles

[brazen nova]

The Anomaly is huge. It's like a whole city, but we can only visit a small part of it. Would be great if we can visit more locations in the Anomaly.

[zenith marten]

There's at least 3 locked doors in the anomaly as of now and one unused NPC kiosk spot

The one with red and blue flags

[gloomy hazel]

And who’s to say you can’t dramatically expand the anomaly? There is a HUGE area past the tree dude and the egg sequencer

It’s just a drop off into what looks like a road of sorts

They could add an extra platform there that has some extra space for NPCs

Current anomaly is the 3rd change of the anomaly.
I'm guessing the locked doors are "just in case" they do need to expand it again.

[hollow haven]

I think the U should add a space anomaly map

[lethal nimbus]

Uh.. well.

!faq-maps

[misty iris]

enable Link Preview to see info

Anomaly, Station and Freighter Bridge Maps

Link to Anomaly Map »
Link to Station Map »
Link to Freighter Bridge Map »

Contribution by: roarinflames#8123, bkay201#1943, Use Less Uk#7734

[hollow haven]

Wow thanks

[gloomy hazel]

First anomoly was just sad lmao

Nada and polo were yet to find any friends

[boreal loom]

and also on space stations

[wraith raptor]

Ability to swap out ships at space stations, like at the anomaly

more kinds of sentinels to fight

[stone sparrow]

I hope the Switch release won't hold development of future updates back too much. Maybe it'll be a good opportunity for Hello Games to directly flesh out existing features instead of adding loads of new ones.

At this point in time, No Man's Sky is still as wide as an ocean, yet as deep as a puddle.

[stone sparrow]

I fully retract everything I have written this morning

[queen solstice]

Star Fox in NMS Switch when?! 😏

[stone sparrow]

I'd love for there to be platform-specific suits, ships and multi-tools:

Xbox/PC (Xbox App):
-Spartan Ship
-MA5C ICWS Multi-tool
-Master Chief Exosuit

Playstation:
-Astro Bot Exosuit/Destiny 2 Hunter Exosuit
-Holborn's Spirit Ship
-Khvostov 7G-02 Multi-tool

Switch:
-Samus/Star Fox Exosuit
-Metroid Gunship/Arwing Ship
-Power Beam/Star Fox Machine Gun Multi-tool

PC (Steam):
-Half-Life HEV Exosuit
-Portal Gun/Gravity Gun Multi-tool
-Combine Dropship (just a small version)

There could also be platform-specific quicksilver rewards, such as a long-fall boot skin for Steam users or a Needler multi-tool for Xbox players.

[glossy furnace]

Super mario sunshine jetpack maybe?

I alrady have the bubble trail.

[queen solstice]

Love this idea. Cuz I own it on all those systems 😍

[stone sparrow]

I completely forgot about Fludd.

What about a Luma Star (from Super Mario Galaxy) as a companion?

[drifting temple]

gimme a Metal Gear REX exo-mech and I'll be happy

[gloomy hazel]

Only issue with that is I am a HUGE fan of pikmin and Metroid and really don’t wanna have to buy thr game again for the extra stuff

[stone sparrow]

You wouldn't have to, but they're nice little bonuses as a thank you 🙃

[rotund stratus]

So content update soon?

[potent juniper]

Would much rather these be added as things all systems can access as one of the big draws for me in NMS is the lack of exclusivity in getting cool things

I really dislike console specific bonuses

[brave plinth]

They experimented with that once before and it wasn't very good imo.
I also would dislike it. That type of exclusive content annoyed the hell out of me back in the PS2/GC/XB era.
Also, not all PC players are on Steam, so having Valve inspired stuff on GoG would be strange.

[strong sapphire]

Console specific stuff should only be cosmetic if they want to make console specific items

[dense sand]

I'd want it to be cross-plat because I'd love to use Master Chief stuff on my Steam save and Xbox seems to have a good relation with Steam so I'd think they'd allow it

[visual cloak]

man. Those corrupted sentinels sure are photogenic. They look so cool. I wish they were more challenging and more varied in behavior though

[brazen nova]

I saw pictures of players who have a "green X" helmet. Is that an XBox exclusive thing?

[lethal nimbus]

Mod I think

[hot flame]

No u

[rotund stratus]

It was an xbox exclusive helmet from when next launched, iirc

[brazen nova]

Okay

[zenith marten]

xbox pre-order bonus for NEXT

10k units 😅

[violet vortex]

the helmet's pretty cool at least

i dig it

[lethal nimbus]

You don't have to dig it, just pre-order the game

xd

[visual cloak]

speaking of digging

it would be cool to randomly be digging on a planet and find an actual customization like a helmet that you can collect, rather than purchase from quicksilver store

same with ship parts, if we ever got ship customization

not capsules that all look about the same, the actual parts

[boreal loom]

maybe even create a ship just from planetary scrap

[visual cloak]

yes. this would be the most fun approach honestly

and also allow ships to become weathered and roughed up so you can fix em

[boreal loom]

good idea

[true crater]

What do you guys think about changing the gating and progression?

Could that potentially backfire?

Like what if they changed warp drive unlocks to require distress beacon exploration in the corresponding system

Or put S tier exosuit upgrades in settlements

Locate crashed ship/freighter -> find drive upgrade -> craft drive upgrade -> go to newly unlocked systems -> locate crashed ship/freighter in new system (repeat)

Instead of just "buy and craft emeril drive, buy and craft indium drive"