nms-the-future

[brave plinth]

what were the glyphs for the super bright location again?
I want tocheck it out later

[meager sage]

Thats not true tho

[timid summit]

^

[brave plinth]

this channel today is 100x better than main channel right now
at least the people in here are having fun exploring just before the update

[lilac crane]

Nah, it will pas.

[icy thicket]

Ok guys going to eat dinner

Be back in an hour or so

@ me if anything new happens/ cool findings

[fierce stone]

okay, either something interesting happens, or my game is gonna crash

i hope its the latter

[brave plinth]

Where the crazy bright location at? Is that one of the poles?

[fierce stone]

the far top

yes

[brave plinth]

cool cool, will check out later

[red schooner]

Anything happening?

[fierce stone]

again, is this intentional? i have never seen space this dark and eerie

[brave plinth]

Did you ever look into the anomalous star that was visible on the corner of the galaxy?

oh, its creepy af out there, only stars in half of the sky

[fierce stone]

yep, im in a phantom star

wait wait wait

hold up

wha-

[brave plinth]

wait what, how?

[fierce stone]

can someone join me?

[brave plinth]

gahhhhh, i cant but would in a heartbeat

@red schooner maybe?

[fierce stone]

i don't know why but i find this to be very uncomfortable

these odd space colors

[brave plinth]

dont summon freighter

just in case

[fierce stone]

abandoned star system

[meager sage]

Whats the interstellar coordinates

[brave plinth]

abandoned and a phantom star?

[fierce stone]

this system doesn't even show up on my discovery page?????????

[meager sage]

VERY sus

[fierce stone]

0FFE:00FE:0FFE:0256

[red schooner]

If you guys don't make any more discoveries, I'ma leave a reddit post to the guy.

Not rn tho

[fierce stone]

either im going crazy or my HUD is shaking

getting constant pop-ups etc

[meager sage]

Try autosaving and restarting game?

[fierce stone]

"UNDISCOVERED"

[brave plinth]

heck no, might corrupt save

[fierce stone]

"INTERSTELLAR COORDINATES RECEIVED"

HUD shaking

[red schooner]

Oh boy

[brave plinth]

wtf is going on, this weird as hell

[rotund stratus]

Anything weird on the planets?

[fierce stone]

ok, im not going crazy. this HUD is shaking

i am afraid to move

[brave plinth]

entering an invisble planet?

[fierce stone]

im trying to send a video

its like normal NMS, but everything gives off eerie vibes, as if the game is corrupted and angry

i can't really explain this properly

ill try sending a video

https://streamable.com/4llnm5

[red schooner]

Don't explain it. Record it.

[fierce stone]

i can't remember space being this dark

also, its not in my discovery list

as if this entire place doesn't exist

if you look very closely, everything shakes

[brave plinth]

yeah, very weird. can you land on a planet?

[fierce stone]

ill give it a try

[brave plinth]

wait, theres a station, that means theres a system name

[fierce stone]

it doesn't show the system name

it just shows "undiscovered planet" in my ship HUD

[red schooner]

How valuable is this save to you?

[icy thicket]

Lol

A lot I guess

[fierce stone]

this one is fairly valuable, but i have a backup

[icy thicket]

It's not the one with the interceptors?

[fierce stone]

this is honestly the first time im actually scared in NMS

[icy thicket]

The ones that go ultra fast

[brave plinth]

once more unto the breach

[fierce stone]

everything about this gives off an angry vibe

as if im in a corrupted instance of the game, which really doesn't want me to be here

a lion's pit kind of vibe

Qyrae, can you try joining me?

[brave plinth]

NMS spooked me a while back when the menu started freaking out during artemis quiestline
thought it was part of the game, turned out to be a glitch that had really good timing

[icy thicket]

Everybody gangsta untill the game goes 16//16//16

[red schooner]

I'm far away from my PC

[icy thicket]

I can

Let me open the game

[red schooner]

Remember, it's just a game. The worse it can do is blue screen your pc.

[icy thicket]

Not true

[fierce stone]

-or scare the hell out of me

[icy thicket]

You can shit your pants if it scares you

That's kinda worse

[river fox]

@fierce stone Is it possible to warp out of there?

[fierce stone]

seems like it, but when i open the galaxy map, this is what i see:

[icy thicket]

We are trying to explore the darkest corners of the galaxy

Literally

[fierce stone]

i open the map, and i didnt touch anything

[icy thicket]

Blue

What's your friend code

[fierce stone]

i am outside the galaxy

[icy thicket]

Nvm

O got it

[river fox]

1.5 million-

[icy thicket]

Yeah

[river fox]

you must be in one of those false systems

I forget what they’re called

[fierce stone]

phantom stars

yes

[river fox]

yeah

that’s an interesting find

[fierce stone]

they're scarier than i thought. they give off such an eerie vibe

[river fox]

we should def document that

[fierce stone]

everything shakes

[river fox]

I don’t think we’re even supposed to access those

[fierce stone]

i would, but its not showing up in my discovery list

[river fox]

this is interesting

you have the portal coords?

I’ll visit it on a creative save

[fierce stone]

eveything feels so unstable

[icy thicket]

I'll get them

[fierce stone]

akola, can you come to the space station?

im scared lol

[icy thicket]

It's abandoned

[brave plinth]

akola's going t get there and be like "what station"

[fierce stone]

"The Biradoma Sphere"

i have never seen a star system with "sphere" in its name

[icy thicket]

What game are we talking about?

[fierce stone]

"Biradoma Exchange"

[icy thicket]

Mmm

Abandoned station

[fierce stone]

i should be able to TP back

it doesnt show up in the list

[icy thicket]

Mmm

[fierce stone]

as if this place doesnt exist

[icy thicket]

I can stay as an anchor if you want

[fierce stone]

wait, can you see this room?

[empty cape]

What place? Can someone send coords or something to Me

[icy thicket]

I can't go there

[fierce stone]

i opened it

[icy thicket]

But that's my fault

[fierce stone]

i have a v3

[icy thicket]

I don't and it's closed for me lol

[fierce stone]

what

so i am inside the door?

[icy thicket]

I can see you phase through

[brave plinth]

its abandoned for both of you, yeah?

[icy thicket]

Yeah

[brave plinth]

ok, cool, sanity in check lol

[icy thicket]

Hmm

Is it normal?

[brave plinth]

thats...not...what?

[icy thicket]

Never went in those rooms

[brave plinth]

i dont recall them saying DATA ERROR

[red schooner]

I am back on my PC.

[fierce stone]

ok hold up now

[icy thicket]

What is happening

Lmao

[fierce stone]

this is scary

no no no hold up

[icy thicket]

Il behind this door

Don't worry

[red schooner]

What should I do?

[icy thicket]

Join blue

[timid summit]

This is crazy!

[red schooner]

im gonna check out his post history

i dont have blue added

friend code?

[fierce stone]

this is either a very very big coincidence or something really scary

[high pine]

whats happening

[icy thicket]

Mmm

[red schooner]

everything.

[icy thicket]

I really gotta go now

[next palm]

Someone hit me with a tldr

[red schooner]

we are investigating the strage post.

strange

[fierce stone]

escort me out pls Akola

[icy thicket]

Someone get in instead of me

[fierce stone]

oh god Akola is gone

[red schooner]

through blue's coords, we have found some insane systems

[fierce stone]

RUNNNN

[icy thicket]

O have to eattyyt

[fierce stone]

MMNNMGGHHGHF

[icy thicket]

Sorryyyyyyyy

[fierce stone]

hahaha its all good

i made it out alive

hud still shaking

[brave plinth]

phantom stars be scurry
how you managed to get to one by just warping is pretty interesting

[red schooner]

I am joining.

roar

could you give a tldr for bagged?

[fierce stone]

i was messing around with coords after u/odysseyishere posted strange numbers

i was able to reach extreme coordinates

[brave plinth]

Led to systems discovered years ago

[fierce stone]

always something i've wanted to do, but never got the time to do so

^ indeed

and now i managed to get myself stuck in a... fairly scary place

[red schooner]

but we are kinda at a dead end

we dont know what to do now

[fierce stone]

space is almost black, with red clouds

[timid summit]

Its interesting

[fierce stone]

HUD is shaking

system is abandoned

[timid summit]

It's almost like...reality

[fierce stone]

and in the station i found this:

[next palm]

Weird

[red schooner]

we need to find the next step.

[fierce stone]

planet is glitching

[timid summit]

It's like at the edge, reality starts interfering with the simulation. Space is really black with nebula.

[fierce stone]

it is glowing???

[red schooner]

kinda

looks like a city at night from space

[fierce stone]

oh shit

[timid summit]

Woah

[fierce stone]

angry guys

[red schooner]

before i go in, how do i make a save backup?

[fierce stone]

i think i have a problem

[red schooner]

go into the ss

[fierce stone]

i got 8 sentinels on me?

what the hell?

how did thta happen?

[earnest forge]

Pic?

[red schooner]

shot a space station probably

[fierce stone]

im almost dying

[red schooner]

they were coming from the ss

[fierce stone]

yeah in think that is it

[red schooner]

go into the ss

its safe

then tell me how to make a save backup

...

[fierce stone]

aight, im in

im stuck'

my character wont stop flying

nvm

[empty cape]

Wtf did you find

[fierce stone]

im too scared

[red schooner]

spoopy stuff

[fierce stone]

im not going in

[meager sage]

They’re at the edge of the galaxy finding weird stuff

Or they had too much geknip

Probably both

[empty cape]

Lol

[fierce stone]

okay, im gonna visit a planet

[red schooner]

wai

t

[fierce stone]

yeah ill wait for you

no worries

[red schooner]

can someone tell me how to make a file backup?

[scenic furnace]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Rogue_Data

[simple briar]

Send the glyphs of this weird place

[fierce stone]

still, getting that one line is kinda weird in such a place like this

i opened the terminal, all i saw was this:

[verbal cobalt]

what's going on?

[fierce stone]

that was what creeped me out

[scenic furnace]

Probably a bug then

Creepy

[fierce stone]

couldn't have been a more well-timed creepy bug

[red schooner]

@fierce stone how do you make a file backup?

[fierce stone]

its kinda difficult

and takes quite a bit of time

and knowledge

[scenic furnace]

On PC?

[red schooner]

we are debunking the trail.

[red schooner]

yes

[fierce stone]

i think you need the save editor

[verbal cobalt]

what trail

[red schooner]

left by u/oddysseyisrising

oh i got the name wrong

whatever

you have to read from the beginning to understand.

[verbal cobalt]

is it legit or not?

[scenic furnace]

Go to appdata>roaming>HelloGames>NMS

[fierce stone]

what the hell is this planet? it seems like it has mixed biomes

[verbal cobalt]

👀

[red schooner]

it begins here. #nms-the-future message

[fierce stone]

only now it starts showing up

[timid summit]

Woah

[fierce stone]

the system

never showed up before

im gonna go in go-live-1 and stream for anyone interested

will be muted though

[red schooner]

where is appdata

[scenic furnace]

In your user folder

The one with your computer's name

[fierce stone]

its still shaking

at this point it seems like the entire star system is just... twitching?

very lightly, but noticable

should i try summoning my freighter?

The planet seems to have mixed biomes, it is a bubble planet, with glowing grass, with jungle trees, and blood water?

[timid summit]

Is Space all black? With stars?

[fierce stone]

While having "poison clouds" as weather?

[scenic furnace]

Yeah I've had the exact bug before and the only thing I could do was restart the game in a different location

[red schooner]

this place is destroying my fps

im dropping random frames

[fierce stone]

what

[red schooner]

i skip every few

[fierce stone]

i am driving my exocraft

while in photo mode?

[scenic furnace]

Also the bug happened while I was in a rogue system

That system you used to get in your teleporters list

They fixed it now

[rotund stratus]

The glowing grass, trees and bubbles is a normal biome

Rare but not unheard of

[fierce stone]

Can you follow me?

[scenic furnace]

Yeah mixed biomes exist

[red schooner]

mhm

but you arent moving

[fierce stone]

im heading to the monolith, ill try and find a portal so i can request the exact portal address

damn, last update broke my exocraft

[timid summit]

Lmao would be funny if you ran Into a physical star

[red schooner]

?

[fierce stone]

i can put a base computer down

damn, that was the only monolith

Lets try searching elsewhere

Icy or poison planet? Your call

noteworthy: no fauna to be found anywhere.

[timid summit]

That's unusual. Unless it's an airless planet

[fierce stone]

i mean on the planets

there hasn't been a single planet with fauna yet

[timid summit]

That's very weird

Abnormal

[fierce stone]

@red schooner #nms-the-future message

[red schooner]

and?

[fierce stone]

scroll down a bit from there

explains more

again, no fauna

[timid summit]

I've never see. planets with no fauna except for airless planets

[fierce stone]

115.1 Tox, those are absurd numbers

[simple briar]

When I portaled to the cords it said corrupted location but let me go anyway

[red schooner]

I think it is time we go to him on reddit.

[fierce stone]

oh, i did not just casually find one of the most tosic planets to ever exist?

[red schooner]

the anomaly seems normal

[red schooner]

name it league of legends?

[icy thicket]

Second place

Ez

[fierce stone]

this has a toxicity of 108.1, when not even in a storm

i have never seen a planet this toxic in my ~400hrs of NMS

[red schooner]

those messages

they didnt go through

[icy thicket]

GG EZ

[fierce stone]

wait- really?

[icy thicket]

Very toxic

[fierce stone]

again: no fauna

[icy thicket]

Hmhmmmmm

[meager sage]

Hey

Name the planet Fortnite

[icy thicket]

Blue, I know it's off topic but do you have coords for that ship?

[fierce stone]

i cant warp to this planet

[icy thicket]

Or it's super mega secret

[meager sage]

Name the toxic planet Fortnite

[fierce stone]

its like- auto-aiming me off off it

[meager sage]

Do ir

it

DO IT

[icy thicket]

Or

[fierce stone]

im not sure Akola, ill take a look and send them if i have

[icy thicket]

League of legends

[icy thicket]

Tyy

[meager sage]

E l s e

[fierce stone]

"forsaken planet"

[icy thicket]

T-bag

[red schooner]

i am going to reply to odyssey's pos.

t

[fierce stone]

@red schooner follow me?

[icy thicket]

Go for it

[fierce stone]

Keep in mind this has nothing to do with odyssey

[red schooner]

akola can you write it actually?

[fierce stone]

I just ended up here while experimenting myself

[icy thicket]

Sure

[red schooner]

just say that we got far, not sure if your a troll, etc

but post the draft here

before you post it to him

[fierce stone]

i really, really dont like the look of this planet

[icy thicket]

It is done

Oh

Rip

This is what I commented

You want me to edit/ add something?

[red schooner]

yeah

[icy thicket]

Shoot

[red schooner]

add "if you dont want to give us hints dont, but when you see this, respond so we know your watching"

[fierce stone]

okay: conclusion:

[lilac crane]

So, is 116 tox actually relevant here?

[red schooner]

wdym?

[fierce stone]

i find it weird

because it does match with the whole agressive vibe

[red schooner]

i have an itch

[timid summit]

Damn space is really black there

[fierce stone]

@red schooner i dont know if you see this

but i am pulsing

[oblique hawk]

damn it seems that reddit post is kinda legit after all

tho I guess they realized people are responding to it poorly

//FINAL INTERMISSION//
[HOSTILITY] apparent [RECKLESS] barrage [???][ORBIT]
[ATLAS][ODYSSEY][VARIATION]
reducing-communication-may-bring-peace
[IT] seeks [ANSWERS][SOON] delivered
finality-conclusion-it-seeks-more
[ODYSSEY]
2-1-1-8-5 [SEEK]
farewell-interloper
//CLOSING//

[red schooner]

hmmm

[oblique hawk]

but I guess the update will come out anyway

[red schooner]

@fierce stone

[timid summit]

Answers. Soon. Variation. Reducing communication. Lots of key wrods

[red schooner]

new post

[timid summit]

Words*

[faint folio]

21-18-5 date?

[timid summit]

May 18 2021

[oblique hawk]

search among stars must mean that it's something you can find in game

[timid summit]

Yeah exactly

And it looks like may 18 2021 if it was a date

[red schooner]

well we are certainly searching

[faint folio]

How do we know it’s legit tho! Sorry I’m only half paying attention in here haha

[smoky light]

we don't?

[red schooner]

we have gone very far

[smoky light]

i would love this to be the start of a new ARG though

[red schooner]

we have found systems discovered years ago

trillions of ly appart

discovered by the same person

in the same year

[faint folio]

Luniax I can and WILL initiate ritual vykeen combat with you. Your aggression follows me to no end

[oblique hawk]

I think its legit then

[red schooner]

me and blue tech are currently in a haunted system

[faint folio]

Spooky

[smoky light]

get the grahgrah first though.

[oblique hawk]

what does 2 1 1 8 5 mean tho

[red schooner]

System: "Biradoma"

Possibly phantom star?

Did not show up in discovery index until discovery of 1 planet.
5 planets.
NO fauna ANYWHERE.
Patung VIII, 2nd most toxic planet to ever have been documented, with 116 Tox in Extreme Storm, and 108 in 'regular' extreme
HUD is twitching, gives off an 'instable' feeling
Space seems more black than ususal, with red clouds, giving off a very unwelcome, hostile, and eerie feel.
Messages sometimes do not seem to either send/recieve.
System is abandoned
Upon opening the v3 room left of the space station, a Rogue Data post was found, only displaying one line:

"What is happening here?"

[oblique hawk]

how did you find that haunted planet

[supple warren]

can be at times, if you're on the edge of nebulae especially

[timid summit]

This is extremely abnormal and very strange. Very interesting though

[faint folio]

queue eerie music

[fierce stone]

still found this to be very creepy

[thorn vine]

that's part of a rogue data log, always been there

[fierce stone]

but it only showed that one line

[faint folio]

Yes

[fierce stone]

i opened it, it showed "what is happening here?" and it closed

[thorn vine]

it's just one line in the log so it's not that strange

[fierce stone]

no, its part of a bigger dialogue

i searched it up

[red schooner]

okay. but what is Frontier's Edge. and who is Blarg Blargety

[thorn vine]

yes but it doesn't exactly sound like your game is behaving in a stable way lol. bugs happen

[red schooner]

ive had my screen freeze before

[thorn vine]

happens to me as well

[fierce stone]

i know, but the fact that it displayed only this line made the experience even creepier

[thorn vine]

usually when leaving a planet

[faint folio]

Well it’s a haunted system

[timid summit]

Plus it's at the very edge of the galaxy right?

[faint folio]

Oh I know it’s deeply profound, so you’ll forgive me, but Haunted systems are....haunted

[fierce stone]

its all of the creepy thing combined, that made it so scary

the dark, red space

the dialogue bug

[thorn vine]

i think you guys are maybe just taking minor occurrences and conflating them with a guess you made to give it more credibility when the simple answer is you're just noticing these small things you didn't before because you're looking

[fierce stone]

https://streamable.com/4llnm5

is this normal?

i definitely haven't seen this before

[thorn vine]

minor visual bugs aren't that profound

[faint folio]

It’s like how every update we say “was this in the game before I’ve never seen it” and it’s just a rock that you never noticed.

[oblique hawk]

I dont think that's supposed to happen

[fierce stone]

still, abandoned system

[faint folio]

It was sarcasm zoid

[oblique hawk]

what does it have to do with 21185

[thorn vine]

i'm aware bread lol

wasn't responding to your thingy

[fierce stone]

"haunted system" was kind of a joke all along, but all the previously mentioned things combined made it quite an eerie experience

[red schooner]

no fauna in an entire system?

[smoky light]

"haunted"

[red schooner]

that does not sound like a coincidence

[fierce stone]

^

[faint folio]

I sense hostility dioZ, a Jedi must deny his emotions.

[brave plinth]

you're not allowed to have fun here @fierce stone
its a common mistake

[smoky light]

well

[fierce stone]

forgot, my bad...

[smoky light]

that's passive aggressive if i've ever seen it.

[fierce stone]

warping out btw

@red schooner

[thorn vine]

i'm not shitting on fun/RP stuff but people trying to say the reddit post is legit based on ??? is a stretch

[fierce stone]

no no no

[red schooner]

k

[fierce stone]

i made that very clear

this is not based on the reddit post

[oblique hawk]

is 21185 an address for a planet?

[thorn vine]

that's fine Blue but there are people that think it's linked lol

[brave plinth]

Well, the whole crew was chased out of main by the fun police, so...what other conclusion should be made

[faint folio]

It’s legit. Legitimately fake u til I am shown otherwise.

[fierce stone]

this is an entirely different segment

[red schooner]

i found a system with a bace.

base

[fierce stone]

i was messing around with coords and glyphs and just so happened to end up here

no links with the reddit post at all

[red schooner]

and a double black hole system

[supple warren]

For what it's worth for folks just coming in (like myself) it's not really clear what you're chasing up Blue, lol

[red schooner]

2 black holes

[thorn vine]

people were asked to go here because it was cluttering main chat with lots of baseless stuff and people were arguing lol

[red schooner]

1 system

[marsh terrace]

Impossible

[brave plinth]

This was the most entertaining thing ive seen in the server in at least a few months

[timid summit]

2 BLACK HOLES?

[marsh terrace]

No shit?

[red schooner]

there are 2 black holes.

in 1 system

[timid summit]

2 of them??????

[thorn vine]

how many?

in what number of systems?

[red schooner]

2!!!!

[marsh terrace]

Black holes share an icon with a few other things.

[red schooner]

1!!!!

[timid summit]

Holy shit

[marsh terrace]

Why don't you go check the system and see there's probably one.

[verbal cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-getting-out-of-hand-now-there-are-two-star-wars-viceroy-jedi-gif-11488909

[brave plinth]

Hyper black hole

[thorn vine]

crazy.. so, more than 1, just to confirm?

[red schooner]

there are a few

look in the background

[fierce stone]

ive seen that before

yes

earlier today

when i was messing with coords

[brave plinth]

Single black hole but that sucker is gonna send you faaaaaaaaar

[marsh terrace]

Sounds like a bug. Can't you actually go there instead of teasing?

[faint folio]

4 white holes in 8 systems?

[icy thicket]

Wanna hear my ultra speculation theory!

[red schooner]

first im going to the place with a base

[icy thicket]

?

[red schooner]

what

the system that said it had a base

[marsh terrace]

I doubt the black holes are more than a glitch. You fly there and see just one, I bet.

[red schooner]

says that i just discovered it

wtf

[icy thicket]

We are talking with the abyss

[supple warren]

classic pre-update space madness is at hand

[red schooner]

oh nvm

it was an archive

im dum

[faint folio]

Well I mean we aren’t talking with anyone really

[red schooner]

wtf

4 black holes

1 system

lmao

[marsh terrace]

*4 black hole icons?

[red schooner]

this has to be a bug

ye

[timid summit]

Wtf lol

[icy thicket]

"talking"

[fierce stone]

tl;dr: i was messing around with coords, and managed to get myself stuck in this system. It started with the HUD-shaking and the color of the space (never seen something like this) on top of all that, when i opened the galaxy map, i saw that i was in a phantom star, which also just so happened to be abandoned. I went in with Akola and got the dialogue bug, which caused the rogue data to only show "what is happening here?" instead of the entire dialogue. This gave me quite an eerie experience. No links with the reddit post at all. that's an entirely different story.

[icy thicket]

Makes sense that we are at the borders of the galaxy

[marsh terrace]

Why are you so quick to assume there are actually so many black holes in one system... Without checking???

[wheat glacier]

Hello people, can anyone help me to a planet with some players? I feel so lonely

[red schooner]

well i just went there

and there is only 1

[marsh terrace]

Seeee.

[fierce stone]

Qyrae, did you name this system "Frontier's Edge?"

[red schooner]

im afraid this is teh wrong place

#nms-lfg-or-trades

[brave plinth]

Check your distance from center before and after 🤔 🤔 🤔

[faint folio]

HG needs to stop playing with the internal branch they’re breaking the game

[red schooner]

you want me to go through?

[supple warren]

@fierce stone thanks, chat was so full of meandering convos it was hard to tell if that's all that was happening

[wheat glacier]

The wrong place?

[red schooner]

im at 1,159,020 ly rn

[red schooner]

yeah

rn we're all going kinda crazy

[fierce stone]

the system disappeared

gone

[gloomy hazel]

poof

[thorn vine]

i wouldn't mind if you meandered my shorts

[supple warren]

oh hey thanks for the tip:
https://steamdb.info/app/275850/depots/

[red schooner]

im going in the black hole

[fierce stone]

apparently it got replaced with this (already discovered?) system

[thorn vine]

it could also be a bug similar to bensavirgin

[gloomy hazel]

Internal updated 7 minute ago? Nice I had missed that

[supple warren]

sorry still waiting for that romance update

[red schooner]

i just went 300,000 ly in 1 jump

[thorn vine]

we make our own romance update here

[red schooner]

lmaoooooooooooo

1 black hole

[supple warren]

obb

[simple briar]

I’m at the edge of the galaxy did multiple jumps and ended up finding a players base . How

[brave plinth]

Toward center?

[red schooner]

ye

but wait

[simple briar]

Outer edge

[brave plinth]

Yeah, wild

[red schooner]

it said i went a total of 800k

lol

i tried to get a ss

[supple warren]

right? possibly means some more funky update shenanigans on the way

[brave plinth]

Yep, travel in an arc

[red schooner]

just missed it

[simple briar]

1,159,194 away from center

[red schooner]

and this place is discovered

[fierce stone]

you said you found 2 black holed?

how about 4?

[red schooner]

2 years ago

[red schooner]

i found that too

[red schooner]

and it took me 800k ly

[faint folio]

I mean there has been in game arg type things before, but I’m still holding out on hyping lol

[red schooner]

thats the exact one i went in

[fierce stone]

woah

my freighter is

ok hold up im confused

[supple warren]

anyone else think analysis tech for exocraft & starships that introduces an analysis overlay to scan stuff from your vehicles would be cool?

[faint folio]

Lemme guess it changed color?

[fierce stone]

my freighter is in an undiscovered system?

[faint folio]

You’re freighter or a frigate?

[fierce stone]

freighter

[simple briar]

Also has it been pointed out the edge stops @ 1,(16)0,000 cause I just discovered this ha

[fierce stone]

what

its gone

[faint folio]

Game is committing die

[red schooner]

do the same black hole bring you to the same places?

[thorn vine]

being able to scan from exocraft would be amazing

[brave plinth]

Typically, yes.
I say typically because there might be a black hole that doesnt, so im hesitating to 100% yes

[fierce stone]

okay, im either going crazy, or this is the biggest coincidence to ever exist:

[thorn vine]

having to get out to use stuff is fine but hving to get out to scan a bird or a rock is boring

[red schooner]

im getting really weird noises

the game is all staticy

[oblique hawk]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lalande_21185

[tame ginkgo]

Ay yo you still in the system?

[oblique hawk]

aparrently there is an actual star system with 21185 in its name

[supple warren]

also being able to scan stuff in space for more info could add a lot of interesting possibilities

[red schooner]

yes

listen to the noises ^

[supple warren]

like making asteroid mining less tedious and piracy more targeted

[fierce stone]

my freighter, is in this star system, which looks like a 1 on 1 clone of the phantom star i just was inside of. This system is blue, has the exact same space station and looks bright blue instead of eerie red?

even the planets places are the same?

[thorn vine]

more in-depth asteroid mining would actually be cool

[supple warren]

being able to scan traders for certain drops to go attack them could be fun for pirates

[thorn vine]

like having large asteroids with deposits, sorta similar to ED but minus the tedium of scooping and stuff

[red schooner]

how dare you attempt to get this conversation back to the point of this channe;

channel

[simple briar]

One I’m currently at has 8 black holes 😅

[supple warren]

also space encounters could be made deeper with a way to analyze them and uncover new interactions

[red schooner]

is there any known noise glitches?

are*

[supple warren]

use the analysis overlay to get the comms frequency for certain space encounters then try to hail them via starship communicator

[fierce stone]

^ would like to know the same, also experienced weird sound issues

[red schooner]

i sent a vid of it

it was like staticy

[supple warren]

there have been audio glitches in the past yes

[unkempt shell]

Maybe scanning traders itself could be a hostile action like when pirates scan us, unlike with freighter pods where nosying around looking at them is cool for some reason. Maybe they'll open a channel with you to negotiate for units rather than cargo, or stall for time to call in the system authorities. Just retrofitting some existing systems with dialogue trees for a deeper experience

[thorn vine]

yeah @supple warren I think one really cool way to do it could almost be like charting empty space. Using a comms device or something to tune to signals on a "map" of the system that you can then travel to

[red schooner]

@icy thicket did they respond?

[icy thicket]

checking rn

[fierce stone]

theory: could it be that phantom systems are inverted clones of regular systems as placeholders?

[icy thicket]

nope

[fierce stone]

these systems are too similar, this can't be a coincidence.

[supple warren]

@unkempt shell @thorn vine yeah i dig both those ideas I think

[gloomy hazel]

Last reply was 3h ago

[thorn vine]

def agree on deeper asteroid stuff tho

seems minor but that's only cause i'm so conditioned to the asteroids being totally backdrop items more or less

[supple warren]

and with this you could get like a covert modifier to reduce the chance of scan detection

[thorn vine]

they got a nice little boost with the anomaly detectors but they aren't frequent enough to be something I actively go for, they'r ejust passive interesting things when I mine tritium for a few minutes

i do hope they add depth to all of the space encounters over time

[supple warren]

so maybe something like a survey device but for space, or operating differently than that?

[red schooner]

did you add in the edit i asked abt?

[thorn vine]

coming across some cool "locked civilization" that is just a floating prop that gives me two dialogue entries is cool once

[icy thicket]

yup

[tame ginkgo]

Bruh i landed in a cave

[icy thicket]

word by word

[fierce stone]

what the hell

[supple warren]

that's where this idea came from tbh:

use the analysis overlay to get the comms frequency for certain space encounters then try to hail them via starship communicator

[thorn vine]

yeah im thinking like a room you can access on your freighter (would give freighters more utility) that allows you to do more exploration in space with targeted goals rather than "fly in a direction until something maybe happens"

maybe have some subquests from a new NPC or existing ones to find things for them

like maybe the scientist asks you to locate an asteroid rich in some mineral or an abandoned research station

obviously not thinking beyond fetch quests rn lol but of course it couldbe more interesting

[supple warren]

yeah

just a lil' something more

[thorn vine]

yeah

i really love all the flavor in the game but sometimes it's just not attached to anything so it'snot as fulfilling

[red schooner]

@fierce stone it appears as though we have hit the end of the line from the reddit post.

The person has said they will stop posting.

We have gone to everything we could think of.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tame ginkgo]

Did ya land in a cave too?

[red schooner]

wdym

[tame ginkgo]

I landed in a cave

[red schooner]

?

[fierce stone]

alright, made quite some discoveries today

[icy thicket]

qyrae are you still online?

[tame ginkgo]

Underground

[fierce stone]

but im going offline for today

have a good night everyone.

[red schooner]

probably not

depends

[icy thicket]

goodnitght blue

[red schooner]

but when did you land?

[red schooner]

why are you asking?

[tame ginkgo]

After you left

[red schooner]

huh

[icy thicket]

where did he say that

[marsh terrace]

Elite II lets you broadcast messages to all nearby vessels, in NMS you could use a distress beacon to call for a fuel hauler on the ground or the communicator in space.

[red schooner]

#nms-the-future message @icy thicket

[tame ginkgo]

Will input the same coords in eissentam

[supple warren]

yeah, this is what i try to get at with some of my suggestions, like for new phenomena or smaller interactions. It may not be game changing stuff, but it can add to the atmosphere of the game in slight but interesting ways

[red schooner]

it wont matter.

[tame ginkgo]

Why?

[red schooner]

idk

according to bluetech

who is way smarter than me

[icy thicket]

oh he edited the orifginal post

[unkempt shell]

Agree with this. I would like to see our communicators be less of a solely reactive thing in general, for sure. Feels like we only take incoming signals, rather than being able to truly broadcast them ourselves.

[marsh terrace]

In Elite II, if you threaten someone over the communicator e.g. police ships, they just laugh back. Would like to see that.

[unkempt shell]

Ships need to be an actual threat first, though! Although, being laughed at by an NPC ship in this game would be pretty funny, all things considered...

[red schooner]

what is the normal distance a black hole takes you?

10k?

[tame ginkgo]

Found flying stuff

[marsh terrace]

100k-1M in my case

[red schooner]

k

[marsh terrace]

Not that it matters, mapping out 1000ly cubed would still be a crazy task to endure. You've got enough stars in a small region

[red schooner]

what does that have to do with anyrthing?

[brave plinth]

towards center, yes, around 6-10k.
i dont know the average of "distance travelled"

[red schooner]

i went 300k towards the center.

[brave plinth]

yep, thats a hyper black hole
only found in the fade

[marsh terrace]

Just saying, making huge jumps of a million ly seems a bit pointless with the amount of stars you can find in a thousand light years.

[brave plinth]

im sorry, how is that remotely relevant to their question?

[marsh terrace]

How is it not?

[red schooner]

(i am male)

just fyi

[brave plinth]

Their question didnt mention stars at all.
I dont know what your point is other than trying to pick fights with everyone on the server

[marsh terrace]

I wasn't picking a fight.

[supple warren]

tbh given how they operate they really should almost be called receivers instead, lol

[brave plinth]

Cool, then maybe my answer to their question has absolutely nothing to do with what you said.

[marsh terrace]

Ok, notes taken, I'll keep my mouth shut unless something's explicitly relevant to me...

[red schooner]

🍿

[marsh terrace]

Something more on-topic, more exotic variety, something along the lines of this
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1064

If it can be done repurposing shuttle parts, can't be difficult extending the library of exotic parts.

[autumn raven]

Anyone know what the vid is that Sean posted

It just looks like a normal storm

[marsh terrace]

Probably nothing.

[torn fractal]

could be that the planet may have been rotating or is that wishful thinking

[marsh terrace]

Probably wishful thinking.

[torn fractal]

ye 😦

[thorn vine]

It was already confirmed to just be a reddit post from like 6 days ago

[marsh terrace]

So I wonder why it's always being overblown

[thorn vine]

cause people get very invested in theories lol

here's the link btw
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/mb0ad7/a_different_kind_of_deserted_wasteland/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[marsh terrace]

I like theories when it has substance and it isn't everyone just wishfully thinking.

[torn fractal]

thing is we know rotating planets can be done as it was before release

it was just too disorientating for the player

[marsh terrace]

But the goldfish they chose for the testing team wondered why everything had shifted after stopping at a station.

[torn fractal]

😄

[marsh terrace]

I want space to feel more like a cosmic ballet than a big frozen collection of spheroids

[thorn vine]

i get that people don't like that it was removed but there isn't any context for the discussion to be meaningful anyways, cause the clip has nothing to do with planet rotation lol

[red schooner]

@icy thicket anything happened?

[polar tendon]

Hopefully this is a big update. Im still stumped as to what the compass means.

I think it would be exploration, more buildings and structures and dungeons, but then again who knows.

[verbal cobalt]

I feel like this isn't a troll because
we got this:

spreading [FALSEHOODS] leads to [OBLIVION] [WE] bring [UNITY]
in response to this:
To that, we say there is an Elite Dangerous update called Odyssey. The above is just a troll post that says NMS will die after Odyssey.
I feel like if someone was trying to troll post about NMS dying after Odyssey or something they wouldn't actively deny what they are trying to troll post about

[next palm]

I'm like 9999999% sure it's a troll

[marsh terrace]

Ngl hard to see why this is exciting

[blissful hare]

No that's the Abyss

[next palm]

Yeah I dont really get what people are getting worked up about rn tbh

Just wait for the update to come out. Besides, it'll probably just be a pets-esque sized patch, which is still totally awesome, but I feel like people are blowing it out of proportion

[verbal cobalt]

I'm having fun so I don't really care lol

[marsh terrace]

It's like when Valve News Network started calling a decent Portal 2 mod Portal 3, you're gonna put pressure on the devs and lead to disappointment towards HG. Please stop with the rash predictions, just wait and see

[rotund stratus]

I have a feeling that this might be small to medium

If I had to place a bet it'd definitely be on treasure hunting

Both in terms of how you hunt and what you find

[supple warren]

please, please don't let it be more vendor trash

I get so bummed when i find stuff that i can do nothing with other than sell

[marsh terrace]

Freighter interiors seems major but HG already has somewhat of a framework for procedural ship interiors. Might not be too hard to tell the game to just generate a somewhat expansive interior below the docking port and then create a way to access that opposite of the bridge.

[rotund stratus]

Maybe

[rotund stratus]

Sorry for being rude to you the other day BTW

[timid summit]

Usually in these updates, they release the trailer and update the day after the emoji is posted. With this one, that isnt the case

[marsh terrace]

I don't remember who or when so apology accepted lol

[marsh terrace]

Let's not get crazy and start inferring stuff from insufficient information like armchair detectives, expect minor stuff like freighter interiors and ship building. If it turns out there is a major update, great, but we don't know that yet and we don't want to disappoint ourselves.

[timid summit]

We know absolutely nothing

I'm just thinking

[marsh terrace]

Precisely

[marsh terrace]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, the compass could mean anything and there's next to nothing you could say that might be the correct guess.

[blissful hare]

Well I can't think of any compass related puns for an update name

Like for origins

[timid summit]

Having fun speculation is all

Like for every update

[icy thicket]

Nope

[marsh terrace]

I won't be going insane, I'll just say I expect HG might do a bit more with procgen interiors and starship scrapping

[icy thicket]

The guy never answered

[supple warren]

Those expectations already seem too high to me, lol

the only realistic expectations are that an update is on the way ||and that it adds east and west to the compass||

[rotund stratus]

Honestly we should just expect a companions/ exo mech/ living ship sized update until we know more

A single headline feature and some QOL

anything more is a big bonus

[supple warren]

and some weird bugs

[rotund stratus]

For sure

Hey maybe they'll fix series x

[verbal cobalt]

lmao you guys are no fun lol. Hello Games wouldn't post the emote if they didn't want us to speculate. It all fun and games trying to guess what's in the update

[supple warren]

Did they ever fix extractors/EM generators not displaying for folks?

i forget which weren't showing

[next palm]

Compass - season pass. NMS now costs $19.99 monthly to use. Pay up plebians

Boom solved

[rotund stratus]

Oh definitely speculation is fun! I've been doing it too. It's just that a lot of people want a really big one

[blissful hare]

Ok but unironically they wouldn't. I know you're just shitposting but still

[verbal cobalt]

sean nervously laughing the background

[rotund stratus]

Honestly I wouldn't be against seasonal cosmetics

[next palm]

I mean isn't it basically assumed that large updates are completely finished/done? NEXT was supposed to be the last big one, and origins was just a bunch of small ones they papermache'd together

Anything more than a small to small-medium update would be a massive shock

imo

[verbal cobalt]

I feel like this update will be special because it's the 16th

nothing to do with size

[next palm]

Size doesn't matter, it's how you use it

😏

[blissful hare]

I still think beyond was my overall favorite update

I might be biased though

[supple warren]

i think...Foundation might have been mine

of recent ones Desolation was really nice

[next palm]

Pathfinder don't @ me

I feel like the aesthetic peaked

[supple warren]

@next palm hey I'm mentioning u

[marsh terrace]

Sooorrryyy mother

[next palm]

@supple warren I will literally

Idk what

[timid summit]

Exactly

[next palm]

Call you a big doo doo head

Boom roasted

[blissful hare]

Wtf is the "revoked" role

[supple warren]

aw jeez

[marsh terrace]

Means no more steak and oven chips

[blissful hare]

Also why am I missing established yet have the others

[next palm]

I just wish HG would nuke the universe properly so we can get some actual new proc-gen

[supple warren]

I would say Pathfinder but it nerfed fixing crashed ships and introduced nanites

[next palm]

Fair enough

[supple warren]

made me sorrow

[marsh terrace]

I'd like HG to establish a framework for preserving visited planets before nuking everything else. I want Origins terrain to generate on more than the odd extra tagalong planet.

[next palm]

Or just have a legacy universe

I think 90% of people would want an upgrade

[supple warren]

ngl i don't really find origins terrain gen all that much more interesting

[next palm]

It isn't

[blissful hare]

Yeah that's fair

[rotund stratus]

What's the community opinion on origins

[blissful hare]

Like yeah haha higher mountains

[marsh terrace]

Eh, I'd still like to keep my bases, I'm not sure I like that as a compromise.

[rotund stratus]

Like overall

[blissful hare]

I think its mediocre overall

[supple warren]

i like the new flora and fauna tho

[blissful hare]

Yeah has some cool stuff

[blissful hare]

But doesn't have this

So I might be biased

[marsh terrace]

Coming from an indie dev team, very good

[supple warren]

make bases portable, boom

yeah yeah i know it's not that simple and all that

[marsh terrace]

That doesn't do my little home built next to a lake justice, it won't be there overlooked by a black hole again.

[supple warren]

find another

[marsh terrace]

No

[supple warren]

it's an exploration game

[next palm]

^^^

[marsh terrace]

Not sure what's scary about not nuking visited planets, we've not explored a billionth of Euclid.

[next palm]

People are way too attached to random locations that are dime a dozen tbh

Hence why I think adding base building way back was kinda crap in the first place

But I'm also butthurt so disregard

lol

[rotund stratus]

Yeah it confuses me why people get mad when a biome changes

[supple warren]

you end up having to maintain numerous versions in parallel and try to avoid breaking each in different ways

[marsh terrace]

Launch version in #nms-modding if you hate NMS in its current state and hate players who won't have their bases nuked.

[next palm]

When did I say I hated anything

💩

[marsh terrace]

Origins planets coexist with legacy

[supple warren]

and they broke some legacy planets for some

[marsh terrace]

You seem kinda strong about your hatred to bases

[supple warren]

it didn't work

[rotund stratus]

Adding new planets was a good idea tbh

For more sweeping changes a new galaxy could work? Or change a really late galaxy and add a way to get there

[next palm]

There seems to be a fairly clean cut rift between the people who love their bases/current build and the people who want to uproot it all for an updated universe, so I don't really see the problem with just giving people the choice

[supple warren]

it was probably also more complicated than just making bases portable and not trying to generate more around bases

[marsh terrace]

If parallel generators in one galaxy won't work, new galaxies will be good enough.

[rotund stratus]

Maybe. It was easier with old bases since they were all on flat ground. Now there's a lot of bases that utilise terrain and it'd be hard for people to set them up again

[marsh terrace]

Portable bases is good, forcing players to relocate every time you want bigger mountains isn't

[supple warren]

Like think about how absurd the "solution" there is, instead of building bases to work with a changing universe they've been trying to build a universe around bases

[marsh terrace]

Let me just find a bubble Earthlike with diplos and a flat little area again, Exploration!

[marsh terrace]

Door is there if you don't like how HG is rolling with new terrain gen nowadays ;)

[supple warren]

hence where i've said you save the design and restore it as a projection first so you can readjust it to new topography before confirming restoration

[marsh terrace]

Not simple as that

[rotund stratus]

One thing I'd like is a medium ship which I can fly my friends around with, along with a refiner, exocraft and some storage

[verbal cobalt]

u/odysseyiscoming is active again

[rotund stratus]

Tiny base for people who don't like base building

[supple warren]

neither was generating new planets alongside old, introducing multiplayer, and introducing VR so I don't really want to hear it

[rotund stratus]

Not as flashy as a personal skyscraper but cosy and immerse

[supple warren]

When Hello Games puts their minds to it they can do some impressive stuff

[rotund stratus]

^

[marsh terrace]

You can't see why players get attached to their planets, we dgaf

[next palm]

I want super realistic pooping physics for fauna 😩

[verbal cobalt]

I wonder if sean ever reads the discord

[next palm]

Um

👁️
👄

That's all I'll say

[verbal cobalt]

reasonable

[torn fractal]

he's definitely in Discord no doubt

[verbal cobalt]

^

[supple warren]

I already pointed out how Origins was a failure in trying to maintain parallel generation approaches btw. So look, they tried that, it still screwed up some folks' precious planets, so the next best thing is to make bases portable and regenerate things altogether when they find they have a new iteration of terrain generation they feel is worth it.

Bases aren't worth sacrificing a new type of universe generation

[next palm]

I miss the worm-terrain planets

😩

[visual cloak]

that’s not the next best thing

[next palm]

Also properly jagged hills and mountains

[visual cloak]

that’s the first best thing

[next palm]

1.3 removed them

😔

[marsh terrace]

I'm off to sleep now, enjoy convincing everyone deleting their save is worth 50% deeper oceans without breaking the 0.0001% of planets broken by parallel gen.

[visual cloak]

funny milk, you’re the only one besides me who has said that

that i’ve seen

[supple warren]

Universe regeneration isn't save deletion ffs

[next palm]

Bro were on the same wavelength homie

[visual cloak]

yeah

[supple warren]

someone hasn't been through enough universe regenerations

[visual cloak]

lol

[next palm]

When it comes to the actual terrain itself, foundations was the pinnacle imo

I really wish they just built off that

1.3 kind of opened a can of worms

[supple warren]

i still can't wrap my head around ditching varied resource deposits

[next palm]

Yeah fr

I miss the giant shiny dildos

[supple warren]

it's a tiny thing but it's like...why

i miss the arches

[next palm]

Fuck I completely forgot

Yeah why the fuck would they...

[faint folio]

Oh alas, The Emeril Arches, how shiny and brilliant they were

[visual cloak]

i will be excited if they focus on bringing that stuff back this year

with more

[smoky light]

the giant towers of resources

[next palm]

One can dream

[smoky light]

i miss those

[supple warren]

y'know, they could bring back varied resource deposits without a universe regen

[faint folio]

i miss the made up resource names

[supple warren]

since it's an isolated portion of the terrain generation

[next palm]

@faint folio same

[faint folio]

RIP Murrine, you will be forever missed

[smoky light]

t9 man

[supple warren]

coryzagen

or however it was spelled

[faint folio]

i mean not made up, but not boring

[visual cloak]

murrin

[faint folio]

who wants carbon when we had PLUTONIUM

[visual cloak]

not ME

[next palm]

Fuck carbon, all my homi3s hate carbon

[faint folio]

you can still keep carbon, but give us back Plutonium. Real OGs want Plutes back

[supple warren]

fill my thrusters with plutonium

uranium, who dat?

[smoky light]

crystals of plutonium.. yeah i miss those

[visual cloak]

the red crystals aren’t even in the game right?

i’m blanking

[next palm]

Also who wants to hear the hottest take in the entire universe

Unless you have a god tier PC, the new cloud tech is kind of ass. Literally doesn't match the aesthetic at all

I wish they just improved the old ones

And made them go to the horizon

😔

NMS had such a unique look back then

[smoky light]

water.. water needs fixed too. i don't enjoy floating over the water because the water line is fucked

[next palm]

Ye

[supple warren]

the aesthetic is somewhat more consistent than say, Atlas Rises, but if you look more closely it is still just...All over the place

[next palm]

Yeah definitely

[smoky light]

the newer aesthetic is kinda bland. it definitely went away from that retro sci-fi look.

[supple warren]

Also speaking of water, what's with the beaches

i don't think i've ever seen a beach look like that

It looks too...Solid, and rough?

[smoky light]

the texture is weird

[timid summit]

Yeah I agree the water is still iffy. They gotta fix that

I want real beachesssss

[supple warren]

It looks more like mud than sand imo

or something

[smoky light]

yeah i can see that

[timid summit]

Agreed

[smoky light]

but besides the overall aesthetic, they need deeper exploration.

and truly unique planets

[supple warren]

also why are the beaches all that same look, like i think they were in past versions too, but it's still a bit

[smoky light]

well

all we can do is wait

and see

and once active development is done, they open up things for easier modding.

[blissful hare]

Tbh might check out ED Odyssey

[verbal cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/obiwan-star-wars-obi-wan-gif-10973435

[red schooner]

noooooo

[deft prawn]

Why was this changed to gps lol

[red schooner]

becasue of the tweet

[deft prawn]

I'm out of the loop

[brave plinth]

our supreme leader Sean has tweeted the 🧭
we are a cult now, you see

[red schooner]

🧭

[brave plinth]

and somewhat reliably, the community is going a little insane over it

[deft prawn]

That's a compass

Not a GPS

[sharp spear]

to be fair

[brave plinth]

lol, yeah, no idea

[sharp spear]

a compass IS a primative GPS

[deft prawn]

You know, u rite

[sharp spear]

PRIMATIVE? WERE GETTING FOSSILS BABY

[rotund stratus]

Hmm I have an idea

NMS Explorers

More things to find, rare procedural cosmetics/ items

Rare procedural buildings, like the OG E3 ruins

One day I'd like rare biome crossovers, to a greater extent than what we currently have

[red schooner]

i want rare items to exist

if they can fix duping, it would add rare items, and could lead to a huge player trading update

[supple warren]

i'd like items that do things

not just flavor text & value go sell ok bai

[blissful hare]

Idk it looks kinda like nms but with a bigger focus on combat

Looks fun

[elder rune]

Just be prepared for a large community of PvP'ers, most of which prefer to circle the newcomer areas and pile up kill counts instead of actually engaging in PvP with skilled players. That's not all of them to be sure, but it's a majority of the "PvP or die" crowd. Long as you're down for that, it's an interesting game with a lot of detailed flying and combat, etc.

Ship selections and what you can do to upgrade/modify them is pretty intense. It'll tax your min/max skills if you go for that sort of gaming.

Anyway, I got off topic. Sorry