#nms-the-future

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fiery coral
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A walker brain should be able to be refined down just as a hyaline brain should

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Same with a Hardframe Engine. What is there to do with these things after I already have an upgraded Minotaur?

hoary star
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Make the game more dangerous. I love the new bug encounter. More of that please. Maybe some instances. More danger. More more more.

toxic slate
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I'd definitely like to see worlds like Pluto... big glaciers, frozen water, ice geysers, etc. All of the current ice worlds basically are more like winter forests

dense basin
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More randomness to the swaying of plants. Trees kinda all sway the same way in the wind.

toxic slate
dense basin
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No, I mean the animations are way too synced up for all the plants in the area. Makes it all look strangely uniform.

faint onyx
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Yeah! Like a little jungle with toxic plants and bugs

empty jetty
lyric flower
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I’m absolutely loving the sky islands though one minor thing I’d really appreciate is some improvement with the delineation between interior and exterior when it comes to atmospherics. Since a lot of the islands are in the cloud layer the clouds pass through the interior of the building which makes it impossible to see for stretches of time. Plus having a clear interior with a foggy exterior as the cloud passes by sounds super neat

main bramble
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now that there are sky islands, maybe that opens up the possibility for “landing” in gas giants. Imagine these planets only have floating islands and no actual ground, so it feels like you’re floating inside the gas giant while keeping player movement consistent with every other environment

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I dont know what would happen if you fall off an island though

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Maybe a very small core of normal terrain you can land on just in case

flint depot
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its probably not gonna be good if you fall off an island @ gas giant

main bramble
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Or don’t even make them able to be landed on and just give them more moons instead to compensate. (I just really want gas giants GekEyes )

feral crest
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In VR, the combat scope should be a laser-scope, to show where you're aiming. It would give the combat scope actual functionality in VR

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Possibly have the laser taper off after some distance, if we don't want it too OP

safe leaf
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waht will worlds part 2 update

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!xbox

misty irisBOT
sage sail
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adding catwalks to planetary bases

late crater
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I really really hope they will someday add different biomes for the same planet, so there's a different fauna/flora at the poles compared to the equator etc.

halcyon sapphire
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While waiting for the update/patch, my brain wandered and this is the result. Thoughts?

Regarding Portals and the activation thereof:
Currently as you know, we need to activate each Portal by repeatedly inserting a handful of resources, which many of us feel is an unnecessary step.
If Hello Games intend to keep us activating Portals in some manner, then I propose the following simpler method.
The introduction of 'Portal Crystals' which could be introduced via a global questline. Portal Crystals could also show up occasionally as mission rewards from Nexus, Pirate or Space Station missions, and could stack in 5's or 10's depending upon which inventory we put them into.

Each planetary Portal could need a different Portal Crystal based upon the colour of the star system it's in, and the resources to craft each type would reflect this.

  • Blue Star Systems -
    Indium (10) or Activated Indium (5)
    And...
    Cobalt (20) or Activated Cobalt (10)

  • Green Star Systems -
    Emeril (10) or Activated Emeril (5)
    And...
    Salt (20) or Cyto-Phosphate (10)

  • Red Star Systems -
    Cadmium (10) or Activated Cadmium (5)
    And...
    Carbon (20) or Condensed Carbon (10)

  • Yellow Star Systems -
    Copper (10) or Activated Copper (5)
    And...
    Sodium (20) or Sodium Nitrate (10)

cyan vigil
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My Wishlist:

  • Multi-Passenger Ships: We need walk-in, multi-passenger ships with customizable interiors. This would be amazing to have.
  • Multi-Biome Planets: On Earth alone, you can find deserts emptier, frozen wastelands far more barren, jungles a thousand times more dense, mountains higher, rivers wider, glaciers, and so much more than any in No Man's Sky. I want to see a thousand times the diversity and at the same time planets that exhibit this diversity across many biomes and vast lands and fields and deserts, and everything.
  • Diverse Space Stations: Every system has either no space stations or one space station. All space stations have the same layout on the inside. I want to see diversity: Multiple space stations in a system for highly populated systems, each with a different design, docking procedure, and internal layout.
  • Planets orbiting the suns: Planets should actually orbit their stars. And Space Stations should orbit the planets.
  • User-User Ship Trading: Users should be able to sell ships to one another.
  • Ship painting: We should be able to repaint our ships.
spark sky
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Real orbiting planets would be cool but it sounds either complicated or demanding depending on how obvious or subtle they’d want to make it. Still though, I’d be mesmerized if I got to see a huge planet slowly creep into the sky while exploring. It’d be even better if they blocked out the sun for a bit.

vale schooner
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multi passenger ships seem pointless imo, as it doesnt adds much to the gameplay that freigthers already does

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I dont think hello games will bother remake every ship interior for this

cyan vigil
cyan vigil
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It would be a very difficult addition, but it would be worth it, in my opinion.

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It would bring a whole new realm of gameplay. One person could pilot, another could handle the weapons.

vale schooner
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okay but what would it add ? because it could be a rework of the shuttle class ships tbh, but what would be the point of having multiple people in 1 ship ?

cyan vigil
vale schooner
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I think a space combat overhaul should be done first then, because currently the game would feel rather empty playing this way

cyan vigil
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Perhaps so. I still think it would be a great addition, albeit difficult from a techincal standpoint.

untold island
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I wish I could see a white board wishlist that the devs have. Nothing guaranteed, just what they are excited about or think is possible haha. I know Marketing team probably would never let it see the light of day though. No false promises etc. People get so attached to that stuff.

cyan vigil
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Multi-biome planets would probably require a rework of the current procedural planet generation system. However, as a programmer (and sometimes game developer), I have built a similar system. You first create a height map, water map, and temperature map of the planet based on various factors, then you can adjust your weather system and vegetation generation based on the water levels and temperature. Then animals would be based on that data. This results in a dynamic system without specific biomes that would be far more realistic.

vale schooner
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the fact is, currently, ships are a mean of transport, with very basic combat encounters here and there to not feel like universe is empty
we are not in a context of war that would justify such artillery means

while I do agree it would be really cool, I think it doesnt fit in the current gameplay loop and honestly, I would be bored af if I had only the turrets to control

HOWEVER, I could see this as an exocraft, when fighting sentinels

vale schooner
cyan vigil
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I want to see planets as diverse as Earth. A hot desert in one place, a frozen wasteland in another, and a dense jungle to explore.

upper robin
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hi expédition 14 is not available on switch now ?

cyan vigil
upper robin
vale schooner
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not at the moment no

cyan vigil
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We don't know for sure, but probably later this week or next week imo.

brave escarp
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When are they releasing the iOS/iPadOS version they promised 2 years ago?😭

cyan vigil
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Hopefully with Worlds Part 2.

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Though I wouldn't count on it.

brave escarp
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Sadly

late crater
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To be honest, I would not mind paying quite a bit for a DLC with for example shit types, multi-biome planets, new chars etc. And I suppose a LOT of people with me.

copper quarry
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Will anything be done with Freighers and or Frigates in the future that we know of?

untold island
feral crest
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I wish more base decorations were added; better yet: a steam workshop for user-made decorations

copper quarry
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Do we know what’s being released in part 2? Or have any ideas of it

rotund stratus
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^ There's a lot of info and speculation there

wind gale
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So after nms worlds it's fine for new starship type with walkable interior

pale zealot
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I’ve had this idea for a while, but you know those planetary buildings where you break in and use salvaged data to unlock recipes? Well now that you can do that from the anomaly, I think they should make those buildings instead let you unlock LEGACY base parts (wood, concrete, steel) and I think that you should be able to unlock legacy FREIGHTER parts from the tainted metal merchant. As a builder it sucks that some base parts are just non existent without replacements

main bramble
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Deep ocean planets where there is a pitch black biome at the bottom. The nautilon will be necessary to travel that far down as there can be a new environmental hazard for pressure that will damage your health directly the longer you swim outside your sub. Have there be some very valuable loot to find down there along with giant bioluminescent horrors beyond imagination stalking you from the shadows

icy onyx
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Currently, we bring up a galaxy map to select another star system and then use the hyperdrive to travel there. How about instead we place the star systems as points directly in space, and if we use the pulse engine towards one of those points, the hyperdrive automatically activates and takes us to that star system?

manic needle
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Not sure if it's been asked, but will we be able to take on previous expeditions in the future?

main bramble
manic needle
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Oh nice! Guess I have something to look forward too then!

earnest thunder
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They should add guns and a pilot option for the capital ship

sonic horizon
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I wish creature AI was more varied. Like have some run in packs, the carnivores attacking other creatures that are part of it's diet, creatures that stalk/ambush prey, ect.

rapid tinsel
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My 3 suggestions for nms:
1: Make all expeditions available at some point when development slows down for the game
2: Dont show unobtainable items in the catalogue because that makes it impossible to complete
3: Remove high clouds they make the game unplayable

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Besides that and bugs the games perfect

odd hollow
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Would love to see an audio overhaul that matches the visual upgrade of this release.

toxic slate
rapid tinsel
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The high clouds are annoying and useless it's also an exaggeration

tall rover
brittle holly
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Question on ship building, will the other classes be added in later update? Or will it only be the current 4 that can be customized?

tawny mountain
pastel minnow
rotund stratus
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Plus they don't have the weird rendering issues

coral crow
tawny mountain
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Wish the starmap to be revamped

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With different sizes of stars at the very least

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Clouds of hydrogen, visible black holes, meteorites, comets, etc...

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It wouldn't change the game, just give the impression to be inside a real/living galaxy

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As a developer I'd think right now: how can we make those 256 galaxies look different from each other?

oblique smelt
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Visible animal gender visual variations in discoveries. Often i scan one animal but game registers the other variant.

feral crest
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I wish you could sort inventory contents

weary acorn
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Add random loot like the weapons and blueprints and have caves or dungeon type places to explore and clear out

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Be nice if you could walk around your small ship like no mans sky and have chests in it for loot

young pebble
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Use Quicksilver or nanites to play again an old Expedition to win old rewards or just for fun
For exemple :

  1. Use 5k or 10k (or more) to activate special expedition
  2. Choose 1 old Expedition
  3. Finish Expedition you choose to activate old rewards (if you want)
burnt plinth
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Is it somehow possible to make those Milestone more challenging? I mean come on there are Millions of planets...hundreds for Words, billions of cash you make but most of the milestones can already be achieved max in a few hours....thats so lame

dense basin
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Add more customization options for exocrafts. Why does Minotaur get all the love?

cyan vigil
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Allow us to repaint ships.

zinc bloom
toxic slate
dense basin
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Didn't they slow every exocraft down when they added the minotaur or something?

toxic slate
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Mm I'm not sure. Nomad is still a lot faster than the Minotaur

dense basin
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Might've reverted it. Or I misremembered it

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It felt like when they added it, all my exocrafts got slower

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I think caves and oceans should have their own unique biomes.

sage sail
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i wonder if they ever update the old base parts to work with current system

dense basin
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They should update squadrons. They are completely pointless.

coral crow
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i've had a squadron member finish off a low hp ship while i was overheated too

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but yeah they should be buffed big time

dense basin
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They should make it so we can give them money and nanites and tell them to search for specific classes of upgrades. They come back after some time and bring back 1 to 3 upgrade modules and you can designate whether they can install them to their own ship or give them to you.

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I also think they should be able to travel with you on foot

toxic slate
dense basin
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They could at least make my squadron not be directly in my line of fire like 80% of the time

toxic slate
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true the AI could be improved

dense basin
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It'd also be cool if freighters actually moved around. It'd just look cool.

coral crow
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they should feel more helpful

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at least if you're playing on space combat set to hostile

dense basin
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Also since they've been adding more boss battles/boss health bars, I think they should add another kind of boss. One that takes you from planet to planet or just from the planet out into space. Don't know what it should look like but it'd be pretty cool to chase the thing down.

toxic slate
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I think what would help is if enemy ships and your squadron ships fought their own battles. The problem right now is that all enemy ships only target you, and squadron ships tend to only attack who you're currently targeting. It could feel a lot more "Star Wars space battle" if targeting was more intelligently spread out

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In fact I should probably send HG a zendesk suggestion about that

covert nexus
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I think that something that would boost No Mans a lot is adding Multiplayer to switch what do you guys think?

rotund stratus
covert nexus
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freighters having weapons and fighting other freighters would be cool

rapid tinsel
dense basin
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Let me actually use the gun rack item to store multitools. In fact, let us build our own shipyards to house more than 12 ships at once. The 12 limit can stay for freighters, those being the ones you can summon but the ones in your shipyard you have to actually physically go get them.

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Park it in your freighter and it'll replace the ship you went to pick it up with.

spark sky
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Also like, a pen for pets too?

dense basin
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I'd love to make a walk in garage with different ships that I've collected or built. Also, allow us to scan other players' ships please. It's strange that we can't already.

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Also fix the pirate freighters lights clipping through planet atmospheres.

safe smelt
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some sort of procedural story-like quest for each system. This would add much more content and depth to systems. Im thinking around 30min to an hour long quests

high shore
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It shouldn't be hard to do for exocraft though - just need a big garage door wall module

dense basin
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They should also take a lot of the flavor text from scanning things and see what they can actually make into real things that occur.

latent urchin
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Is it just me or is the HDR really low contrast

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Like low contrast yet things like the night or shadows aren’t actually dark or highlights aren’t really that bright aka little to no gains for what is lacking there

high spindle
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They should add light pollution on planets where there’s light sources during the night time on the planet close to the ground, it’ll effect how vibrant the stars in the sky are. And also if you’re around base lights too, it’ll do the same thing

short abyss
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More drug production methods.

Im serious.

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There are quite a few illicit substances in the game that are only available to buy and not produce

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nipnip is one of the few we can, but what about GrahGrah, or blood salt?

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Unironically drugs when producing in bulk can be extremely profitable in game. Mainly NipNip. Ways of further refining illicit substances and selling them for higher amounts in both outlaw space and especially legal space would be kinda cool

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right now its generic, but like what if similar to cooking you can create a better "product" and sell that for more than the lower quality outlaw product.

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Yes i am seriously suggesting an outer space meth lab update.

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or like... nipnip strains

wheat swallow
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some kind of gigantic walker mech (think AT-AT from star wars) to work as a mobile land base (freighter, but on land)

freighters kinda make regular bases on the ground kinda meaningless imo aside from having somewhere to put your exocraft launch bays, so this could work as a land-based variant of the freighter, with a garage where you can put your exocraft launch bays and summoning station, with the bonus that you can spawn and launch any of your exocraft from that mobile base

it could be a multiplayer thing too, like one person drives, another can scan, mark stuff, and scan for specific structures if a radar is installed, and another 1 or 2 players could control a turret or 2 mounted on the top or sides

spark sky
open jasper
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I'm really confused to not see that much discussion about inventory management still being limited like hell. The new update looks really good but I can't go in one system without filling either my ship or backpack inventory, manually sort/stack stuff to get some more space and still fill it again all in 15min.
The changes to stack size helped, and adding slots to the inventory helps too, but it just delays the inevitable. I'm going to take other games as examples. In Minecraft you can technically have 1647 slots/different items you can put in your inventory by filling it with shulker boxes, an ender chest with shulker boxes and a pickaxe to pick those up. It is tedious, but you're never going to get close to needing that amount of space while exploring, even less when you're not and are at your base, considering the game now has around 1200 items, a good half of them you'll never need and 3/5 stackable.
In No Man's Sky, you have 3 expandable inventories, and can have 9 more limited one per base/freighter, which you can sometimes not access if you're too far. Despite 3 inventories being upgradable, in total it is near the same amount of slots as MC but with a ton more items possible to obtain, more than half of them with limited stack size. That amount of slot ends up making you not know what you have, what you're missing, what you need and what you don't need.
So what could help? Well to start a search feature across inventories telling you the total amount you have of an item in all containers (and if theyre accessible) and giving you an option to move everything in the same spot. A favoriting option, allowing you to lock an item and its amount in the inventory its in, allowing you to move/sell surplus without fear of not keeping enough on you to survive. A sorting option, letting you reorganise each container on different criterias to help with organization in each inventory. A stack all option to deposit items in one inventory to containers that got those items

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I went out of character spaces but I was pretty much done anyways, I know everything is easier said than done but I really which I could enjoy the game and not hyperfocus on sorting my inventory a 3/4 of the time, I'll check the Zendesk just to be sure

young pebble
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Add more dangerous creatures under or above the sea.
Add a boat for cruising with your friends. And the boat moves with everyone on board. And you can defend your boat against underwater creatures that attack you. Like pirate attacks but on the sea with sea creatures.

vale schooner
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we should be able to change energy color on pirate freigthers

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cuz red is ugly af

rapid widget
final stone
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tho there should be multiple slots on it

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with all vvehicles i thinlk

glass gazelle
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Does anyone know how many parts the Worlds update have???

oblique smelt
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At least 1

cyan vigil
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3 is probably a good bet.

golden aspen
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Are they going to add flight stick compatibly for ship?

runic cedar
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We want that.

gritty falcon
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Im just hoping for an aggressive sentient race. One like the bug costumizations we found.
Im hoping the simulation kicks back to life fully, with even more races and a real in game economy where you can raid valuable trade convoys for example rather than the passing freighter.

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Or just give me a Captain Ahab type mission/expedition where I hunt a living dreadnought/freighter.

grave wolf
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I really wish planet map is a thing

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just 5 becons is a cancer

wheat swallow
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give us capital-vs-capital battles ingame, and the ability to customize our capital ships to that end (please)

freighters would now just be a single type of capital ship you can get, with there consisting of freighters, dreadnoughts, and supercarriers

freighters have minimal weapons but get a bonus increase in tech and cargo slots, and can get a capital-grade emergency warp engine
dreadnoughts (like the pirate dreadnought ingame atm) would get a bonus to ship-mounted weapons, and the ability to mount a spinal weapon
supercarriers get a lot more hanger/squadron slots u can buy, has decreased nanite prices for unlocking more hanger/squadron slots, and a slight boost to shield power

you can make, buy, and find different weapons to equip on your capital ships, all weapons would be vaguely based off of the weapons you can put on your multi-tools, and there would be 3 classes: capital-grade, all-rounder, and point defense

capital-grade weaponry are large cannons, like the anti-freighter continuous beam weapons currently on the pirate dreadnought. each capital ship can have some, but dreadnoughts get the most at 4 to 5. these would be (in vague and broad terms): railguns, continuous laser cannons, nuclear/anti-capital (renamed anti-freighter) missile launchers, and superlasers, which ingame would functionally work the same as a railgun, but they are a laser (charge up, then big kaboom)

all-rounder weapons do everything. they shoot at everything, thanks to their dual-purpose functionality (which could be toggleable from anti-ship to anti-spacecraft, perhaps), decent damage output, and decent fire rate

point-defense weapons are anti spacecraft guns. turreted miniguns, flak repeater cannons, swarm missile launchers and so on

spinal weapons are colossal weapons built into your ship, that require your capital to physically turn and aim it at the enemy capital to use

you can still only have one capital ship, though you now have a lot more ways to upgrade it and such

wheat swallow
# wheat swallow give us capital-vs-capital battles ingame, and the ability to customize our capi...

adding onto the weapons part of this a bit, a few weapon tier types

there would be the green - blue - purple - yellow system we currently have for modules, but there would also be some special tiers:

military-grade (above average weapons intended for use on military ships, primarily stuff like cannons and missile launchers, not as good as the autophage-crafted, sentinel-forged, ancient, or experimental weapons)

autophage-crafted (atlantideum-based autophage-themed weapons, primarily neutron cannon and pulse spitter-type weapons)

sentinel-forged (black and red color scheme & design scheme, priamrily laser weapons like the blaze javelin, and continuous beam weapons)

ancient (old and broken-down designs, but a lot stronger than they look, usually rarer and more archaic weapons like rapid-fire cannons, scatter blasters, and boltcasters)

experimental (odd and very unique weapons, stuff like nuclear missiles, fast-acting rusting missiles made with oyxgen, shield-penetrating ion missiles made from ionised cobalt, railguns with extreme range, and so on)

indigo pelican
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!hg

misty irisBOT
indigo pelican
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Don't forget HG is always open to feedback and suggestions

wheat swallow
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i thought this WAS the suggestions channel

indigo pelican
wheat swallow
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guh mb

indigo pelican
indigo pelican
fringe wharf
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More POI(points of interest) would be cool in No Man's Sky

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However the draw distance is really bad for that

finite cedar
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has anyone ever talked about the addition of piloting Freighters?

indigo pelican
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yes

finite cedar
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have HG said whether or not its a possible thing in the future or is it something they wont do?

plush moon
sly forge
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I still wish that there was some form of progression as you get towards the center of the galaxy

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Like some sort of option at least to scale up the difficulty as you get closer to the center

glacial shoal
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I would love better waypoint management in the future. Dropping a pin on a discovered world would make Flying there so much easier. And more logical of you ask me. Same thing for dropping a pin on my processors.

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Also the ability to select waypoints in a way. So you can select that to warp too instead of automatically fly to another mission/station marker.

warm girder
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First of all, wow, the Worlds part 1 update is stunning in so many ways! A totally new experience (I can't stop shooting screenshots during my playthroughs). I guess more people mentioned this before but especially with this new update I really would like to see some physics improvement around your character in interaction with the environment. Now that we've got waves and more impressive storms I really would like to 'suffer' a bit more with extreme weather. What if your character would physically struggle entering a sandstorm or getting moved around in a wild sea with high waves so you get disoriented and need to struggle to survive? Badass weather would feel really dangerous! Getting in water bodies (also calm ones) would be even more immersive if there was a bit of a 'natural resistance' which will slow you down a little bit and create waves around you. Also the cape physics look unnatural to me and it would be great if the new wind system would interact with the character's physics too (if you look at Manor Lords for example, the capes move in a very natural way). If Hello Games improves these things, this would be the cherry on the already gigantic sweet cake NMS has become! NMSCordAtlas

twin steppe
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more rugged terrain

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would be sick

oblique dock
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One simple thing.

Biomes on planets.

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Not just one biome.

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Everywhere on said planet rn is the same and the will to explore is just not there

plush moon
short abyss
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X class ships that are anomalous would be cool.

Many floating impossible parts and configurations, with distinctly curved and rounded features to offset the geometric and blocky ship designs that are usually seen.

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We see alot of anomalous animals and planets, but no ships like that.

lilac crane
vale schooner
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I d love to have more weapon variety for starship
and especially for LS

rapid widget
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and this could have a lore reason too

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the atlas kicks into overdrive, creating new races and helping previously undiscovered creatures appear. It is all in an attempt to prolong its lifespan

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or maybe differant subspecies of already existing races, like a more feathery and thinner version of the Gek with their own dialect that shares some words with the gek

gritty falcon
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it would be awesome to have a sort of hostile race that focuses on biotech

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so it can be a mix of humanoids and biological horror type creatures

short abyss
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Especially if they add new planet types like 100% water planets.

Add those shark guys, who only exist there.

rapid widget
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and maybe you can buy one and it functions like an easier to manage settlement

short abyss
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Gas planets could have invisible cities that live in orbit. Made up of some of the aliens with more abstract bodies such as those tree guys or lightning brain dudes.

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Same principle as the autophage, theyve always existed under the nose of the 3 great empires.

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The best way to thrive in a system where all 3 are functionally in a stalemate dominating the entire universe is to stay out of sight.

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Gas planets and water planets would be a great opportunity in particular for massive complex structures like cities because the game doesn't have to render geometry for those planets. It just needs to be the atmospheric or under water effects with more resources going towards these cities.

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Npcs only existing at set structures with no randomly generated terrain also simplifies path finding meaning you could have more people moving about.

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It also helps minimize the problems with less access for language and reputation since theyd be rarer compared to the normal races.

More people means more opportunities to learn words and say or do things that increase rep

rapid widget
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thats a good idea

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or imagine some sort of pre-ftl civilization

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like hunter gatherer aliens that are like the protogeks

short abyss
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short abyss
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Still the idea is worthwhile because people want gas giants despite there not really being a point.

So they should insert a good point for everyone to go there so it's not just an addition that's mostly cosmetic.

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Same for water planets.

rapid widget
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yeah

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but people might get confused as to why there are no islands or may not have aqua jets

fossil prism
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The npcs on the anomaly are travelers, who all look different/are one of a kind. They are not full alien races like the gek, korvax, etc

short abyss
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As for swimming it would basically have a damage plane at some point where the player starts taking damage due to crushing water depths.

The nautilon will also refuse to go down a certain point for similar reasons.

sonic horizon
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Venomous animals might be a cool addition to combat with them. Maybe even use the other hazards with them (like how subnautica has a fish that shoots a chemical that freezes the player)

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On that note, the devs could get even more creative with creature combat. Maybe have some creatures release chemicals as a defensive reaction for peaceful creatures. Maybe have some ranged attacks for the aggressive ones?

late dust
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I found out after replaying NMS that the Atlas path is the more fun way to play NMS and doing Artemis quests is why people think the games boring.

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Atlas sent me from system to sytem providing me with free warp cells, forcing me do different mini quests to progress. Meanwhile i get to defent freighters, explore planets and fight of pirates.

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Meanwhile the Artemis quests just moves me in a circle to build a base on a planet that I dont even like that much because i having found a good one yet.

gritty falcon
toxic slate
late dust
short abyss
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NMS is kind of this odd conglomerate of what everyone wanted from it over the years.

Honestly an update to smooth it all out would be nice.

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Think about all the different quest lines just to introduce the latest mechanic, despite those questlines being semi story relevant.

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Revamping the story to introduce these ideas more naturally would help.

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Especially since NMS seems to be gearing up for a big shift in lore. With LNF on the horizon as well.

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Let me put it like this

With how prominent the void mother, the world of glass, and what's in the water are to where the lore is going rn.

It's all side content that you go out of your way to do. Completely separate from the "main plot"

hushed knot
# short abyss Let me put it like this With how prominent the void mother, the world of glass...

i agree i wish all the info about this anomalous "VoId" would start affecting greater parts of the story and universe itself. like the living ships, the autophage, atlantium all of those parts and their sub plots tell a story about a once prevalent force that was hidden away by the atlas slowly coming back to the galaxies (id also like more biotech so any excuse to get a shit ton more of that in the game im happy to have)

short abyss
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the thing is, it kinda is.

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The problem is, its listed in the same category as the nautilon quest which is basically just a fancy tutorial on the submarine

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Agricultural research and A Trace of Metal are the same type of mission to the game right now

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I think its legitimately a critical flaw with the story telling in this game. Anything that isnt basically act 1 of this very clearly over-arching plot is considered fluff content by the game, even if its actually super important

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and yeah Atlas/Artemis path is act 1

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its very clear this Autophage and the rise of the void mother is act 2, but most people don't realize that the water is trying to kill you because the game is treating it like gwent in the witcher 3

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i legitimately think the story could use a rework to press importance onto Under a Rebel Star, A Trace of Metal, and They who Returned

hushed knot
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like a combination of all of them into a greater second half of the narrative, artemis was our intro into this universe and an understanding that its under the rule of a machine god slowly dying- maybe instead of collapsing in despair of the inevitability of it all we try to be actionable and make the best of what we have, that is until information of something going down that might be the cause of the atlas's malfunction comes to our attention and we investigate maybe even leading us to finding apollo finally

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and even the void mother- whatever it is makes its presence known in a huge way during the story

upper nebula
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make visible changes in space stations that show whether its economy is tier 1 2 or 3

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i think that would be cool

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alot of decorations in tier 3 to show that its luxurious

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idk

sacred igloo
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I was thinking and it would be cool if like

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The resource hotspot system got a soft revamp

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Like being able to set up automated selling facilities..or hook silos up to refiners to create an auto refinery

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Maybe hook Silo's up to launch pads that could funnel resources into ships to transport resources..idk it's certainly a concept

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sacred igloo
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Ya something like that would be awesome

chrome violet
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I want deep oceans in nms.

oblique smelt
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Dont we all

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sacred igloo
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Probably worlds part 2

minor rock
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Tidally locked planets

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100% water worlds. Now that you can land on water

rotund stratus
minor rock
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One side is dark and cold

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The other is warm and light

rotund stratus
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The entire skybox rotates, that's why every planet has the same day length

minor rock
short prairie
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I saw a guy in reddit saying that forest are less dense than before worlds 1? Can someone confirm it?

rotund stratus
short prairie
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Didn't anyone noticed changes in forest density?

minor rock
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To make it compatible with a tidally locked planet!

rotund stratus
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I guess but it's probably pretty deeply rooted at this point

minor rock
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I don't work at HG so I have no idea how difficult that would be

minor rock
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Does the no atmosphere planets have a day and night cycle?

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A visible one?

minor rock
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They always felt thin

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To me atleast

short prairie
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Yeah

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Forest density was always low

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But I saw some people saying that is even less now

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After the world's 1

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Can someone confirm it?

sacred igloo
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In some cases yes but other times I've seen quite dense forests

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I think due to the completely overhauled world gen the density is largely the same whenever they do spawn they've just

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Lowered the spawn rate

rotund stratus
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There's more variety with density rn I think

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Some of the newer biomes have pretty dense clusters of trees

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On the other hand I think corrupted planets are way too dense

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I've just been super impressed with how they've improved their use of filters since next

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Come to think of it, I think the sin city filter is gone for good now

sacred igloo
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My favourite one is the filter that turns everything yellow

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Reminds me of project wingman (if ykyk)

rotund stratus
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Oh, the one that looks almost like a fog?

sacred igloo
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In a sense, I'll ping you in media with an example of what I mean since I don't have image perms here

short prairie
sacred igloo
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I imagine

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Could be a placebo effect based on new world gen

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But it's from what I've experienced personally

short prairie
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But they are still Forest as dense as before but just more rare?

sacred igloo
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Ya

short prairie
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I still didn't played that's why I was curious, thanks :3

sacred igloo
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New world gen pretty sick

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Favourite part is definitely new world gen for Nuclear worlds

short prairie
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From the screenshots I have seen looks like the colours are more vibrant

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Is that right?

short prairie
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I really wanna see the new worlds

sacred igloo
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Nuclear worlds definitely are a lot more vibrant

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They ✨glow✨

short prairie
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Did you liked the new frozen planets?

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From what I have seen the flora now has more colours

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Also the blue filter was removed

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I really hated that filter

sacred igloo
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Haven't noticed much change in them, would be cool to see like... Volumetric??? Snow..like seeing your character wade through deep snow

short prairie
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Yeah it would be nice

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I think worlds part 2 will maybe overhaul the old biomes

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Or add new procgen in the upcoming purple systems

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Probably the purple systems will be in the realm of glass

sacred igloo
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I'm hyped for purple systems

short prairie
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Yeah me too

sacred igloo
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Revamped worlds are cool but I need a completely new playground to explore

short prairie
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Probably they will do it with the world of glass

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Maybe they will add more systems or convert old ones into purple

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I think they will have new procgen

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There are a lot of new assets in the leak

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Like ruins

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Probably for the new planets

sacred igloo
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I definitely want more to do with Autophage, worlds part 2 could defos be a big update for both exploration and Autophage arc

short prairie
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Yeah I think it will be the final part of the void lore

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I saw some people saying it will have 3 parts

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But I think it will just be 2 parts

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Part 2 is coming before summer ends

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So probably will drop in September

sacred igloo
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As much as NMS is an exploration game I wish they would revamp Freighter combat. Like have your freigjters and frigates play a more active role in combat, that's not just 1 scenario when you get jumped by enemies

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Introduce massive pitched Freighter V Freighter battles that's not Fighter V Freighter

short prairie
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It would really be cool if they added freigther battles, piloting freights would be awesome

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But I don't know if will happen

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Soon light no fire will launch

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So I think NMS updates may be coming to an end

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They will probably shift attention to the new game

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But I think that we still have at least till next year

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proud walrus
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It would be Nice if you have to start an Spaceship Engine before you can Lift Off.

short abyss
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Basically mechanics developed for one game can be backported or forward ported to the other game

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I don't expect NMS updates to last forever, and I do expect LNF to likely outlast NMS in terms of support.

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Unless LNF sucks ass, but I'd hope they would have learned to only release when it's actually ready.

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meager jacinth
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I'm personally hoping for something that makes settlements and NPC inreraction more meaningful.

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Receiving quests from NPCs, having various vendors in settlements, through which you can unlock blueprints for new stuff or just get direct access to items. Be able to recruit NPCs and make a crew, maybe have them also recruit you and have you help them. Have like a town board with takss that you.need to complete which would help upgrafe the settlement. Be able to build relationships with NPCs (not meant as romance) which would improve your reputation with the settlement and the race itself.

fringe wharf
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True, I'm hoping for more buildings, settlements, maybe even cities

meager jacinth
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Idk if any of this is part of the game already, I am completely new to NMS, just watched a few vids, loved the game and bought it :3

meager jacinth
fringe wharf
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Yup this would make the planets feel more alive

meager jacinth
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Exactly. I think this is really the only thing I am personally missing in NMS.

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If they add that, it would also bring a LOT more people in

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Maybe even some more in-depth economics between races and also conflicts between them.

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This would be the icing on the cake

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fringe wharf
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Plus NMS already has a very good base building mechanic. If they can transfer that into cities that would be phenomenal. Yeah I feel like the economies don't mean much. Also high conflict systems that are at war are identical to other systems. I want to see an actual war taking place.

meager jacinth
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I think they have the resources and tech to pull this off

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fringe wharf
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Correct. All of that would be nice

meager jacinth
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I'm hopeful about it cause of the data mined suff abour NPC pathing comiing potentially in Worlds Pt. 2. But I'm coping hard xD

fringe wharf
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I haven't seen any leaks. I should go check them out

meager jacinth
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There is some stuff data mined

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So not actual leaks, let me correct myself

fringe wharf
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That's still cool though

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Imagine the NMS community building up an entire planet with cities

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My three big hopes are settlements expansions/city building, online being fixed/being able to host bigger parties, more indepth economy/conflict within planets.

meager jacinth
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Literally same, without online cause I am a complete beginner at the game.

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fringe wharf
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That would be soo much fun. Imagine a group of 10+ people all exploring finding planets, building bases or even doing expeditions together and helping eachother out. I feel like all 3 of these things will immortalize No Man's Sky. Even if Light No Fire comes out there will always be a reason to play No Man's Sky. I mean there will always be a reason to play this game the way it is now but even more so.

short abyss
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Guilds would be a big feature for the game especially big groups that claimed portions of the universe like the galactic hub

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I guess less so guilds and more so custom factions.

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Since guilds tend to have a player limit and a officer structure while a faction is less defined.

fringe wharf
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That makes a lot of sense since factions already exist in the base game

short abyss
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It also means planets and such are claimed under a faction.

All the guild aspects of a faction can be handled community side where there's less ways to abuse it.

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meager jacinth
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That would also be so cool. But I think people might not be happy since this turns the whole game into an MMO in a way, which a lot of people don't have time for.

fringe wharf
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I don't think that would solely turn the game into an MMO. It would be something you have the option to engage with.

meager jacinth
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Yeah if it's made so it's not like an aspect that is really needed, that can balance it.

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I think they need to be careful to not make something so mandatory that you NEED to spend an X amount of time in the game. A good portion of the player base might not like it since the game is a sort of chill and lets you relax. All those thing should be just other activities that you can do.

lilac crane
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The last update made all water crystal clear and you can see the bottom absolutely anywhere. Some bases benefit from the lack of light. Each planet with water should have different levels of clarity and light penetration of said water. Some planets should even require you to use a light.

short abyss
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Maybe on the galaxy map you could toggle on a sort of thing where if a ton of systems are claimed by a singular faction, it's all grouped in a sort of bubble surrounding the area.

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As the faction territory.

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Hard to express what I mean without a visual aid.

meager jacinth
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That's a way to do it yeah. As long as it does not restrict players in any way I think it's an awesome idea.

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Let's hope Sean sees our prayers over here 😭😭

short abyss
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It basically just be for groups who want to get together and make a space theirs in a more official capacity.

fringe wharf
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Also one small feature I would like them to add is making you have to cook and eat for survival/permadeath mode. Would add to the immersion

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Adding hunger to those modes

drowsy canyon
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Do you think they will bring more types of walls etc. In the future ?

short abyss
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I just want a higher build limit and the ability to set how many base parts you want rendered at one time.

Or the ability to make ultra big Floor tiles so we can make larger floors with less objects.

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Would solve a ton of performance problems since I'm pretty certain the lag comes from rendering so many different objects rather than the objects themselves.

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Like... 1000 pieces of floor were considered one object. I'm pretty sure there would be much less lag than 100 floor tile object.

pale zealot
misty hornet
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I would like Refiners on Space Stations

toxic slate
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For bases I'd like something more modest -- be able to see the weather effects through windows when inside of a base

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Related, I'd also love to see raindrops on spaceship windshields, like we can see in racing games like Gran Turismo 7 or Driveclub

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I'm sure that's not an easy technical challenge though

short abyss
pale zealot
# short abyss How's that work?

Watch beeblebums glitch building guide for full details, but the gist of it is giving the stats of a scaleable part to an un-scalable part, it’s a little complicated so I can’t really explain it in text

icy thunder
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more base parts themed around each factions prefab PoI's would be nice, even just more props

dense basin
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How about adding an actual trading system between players? Like ships, parts everything. Have a trade interface where you need to at least input something in order to trade, even if its just 1 unit.

mighty goblet
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When will fishing be in no man’s sky?

tulip pagoda
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why would it be

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and if u got fishing it would just be a very poorly implemented feature

mighty goblet
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Why

desert sandal
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Every respectable game must have a fishing minigame /s

short abyss
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Ive put in a bug report every update since waypoint that this wasn't added.

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or if it was, its not working

sour jasper
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Also there's no color variation in like, the rocks/ground textures.

short prairie
hoary plinth
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broodling race pls, we already got it with the constructs after that expedition, so why not the brodlings? maybe indeviduals that broke from the brood one way or the other?

sleek osprey
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Nvm, I read up further

fringe wharf
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Why no leg piece for the chitin armor? All the other leg options just look wrong imo. Add chitin leg armor

hushed knot
hushed knot
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i just wish i could have a more strange looking character like a blob creature or just interesting features depending on what race you pick like gek gives you better discounts in trades korvax gives your more supercharged slots vykeen allows for more cargo slots in general but allows more weapon upgrades to stack

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and autophage can... add tech onto themselves? like how the living ships need different ingredients to charge things its the same for the autophage to repair any damage

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idk

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just wish the stuff i put on wasnt just flavor text essentially and actually mattered to how i play the game

rotund stratus
hushed knot
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im aware

pure grove
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plz larger lobbies, I have 6 friends that all want to play together

short abyss
leaden kite
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Discovery-related prefabs that get installed when someone uploads a discovery would be pretty cool to give previously-found areas a "someone has been here" feel.

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a guest-book item that isn't the current state of comm ball would be nice too

sick lake
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Here's me hoping for changes and upgrades to planet terrain gen

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Long overdue

narrow moss
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  • Ability to warp to different systems in first person mode (like when han and chewie sat in their cockpit watching the starts fly by)
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also the possability to (beam down) like in StarTrek maybe only if your freighter was summoned from the ground on a planet as it's much closer to the planet than when deployed in space

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and maybe scopes - for zooming on on far away targets wether it be to fight hostiles or mine far away nodes of ore/element

hushed knot
short abyss
sick lake
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Not for terrain. Are you being serious ?

hushed knot
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yeah planet generation was just updated

short abyss
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yeah and terrain

sick lake
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Planet gen was updated but terrain is still the same. The weather and waves were updated

short abyss
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define terrain?

hushed knot
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earth, ground, dirt

short abyss
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i think our idea of terrain and yours are different

sick lake
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I go to every planet and the terrain is monotonous and repetitive

short abyss
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we are refering to the generation by planets, which has been updated, its why we get floating islands now

sick lake
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I'm talking about mountains , canyons , ravines

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Variety

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I'm talking about dynamic terrain events

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Landslides

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Earthquakes

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Etc

short abyss
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sand worms cause earthquakes

sick lake
short abyss
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do you have camera shaking turned off or something?

sick lake
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Nope

short abyss
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ive personally seen it so i don't quite know what to say there

sick lake
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Are you guys really satisfied with the current terrain gen?

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Wow

short abyss
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i mean yeah im fine with it, its going to be updated again with worlds part 2.

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we got floating islands now, nice looking water, and a refresh of all the planet's biomes with some new ones

sick lake
short abyss
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i mean, they have.

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its not like they are being lazy here

sick lake
sick lake
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They could shift priorities

short abyss
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i mean... "i want them to put more effort" sounds like that

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regardless, this discussion has extended into an argument and isnt for this channel

sick lake
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More effort on the one aspect many are hoping for

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Not much to ask

short abyss
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If you want to continue this discussion take it to #no-mans-sky

sick lake
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This is the appropriate channel for this afaik

short abyss
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alright then.

sick lake
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I'm not into arguments. Just plain old discussions

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Let's agree to disagree and call it a day.

short abyss
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alright

sick lake
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We can have more fulfilling discussions on other aspects

rotund stratus
short abyss
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i mean they have

dense basin
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I hope those purple systems have crazy stuff going on

short abyss
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this is what worlds part 1, and presumably part 2 is going to be

sick lake
short abyss
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they have changed it, thats not a valid counter point

rotund stratus
short abyss
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Worlds part 1 is a shift in priorities towards land generation

sick lake
short abyss
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humane?

dense basin
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Literally, all they need to do is allow people to save their bases (one at a time perhaps) as long as they can find their base computer and then paste it somewhere else. Then go wild on terrain generation

short abyss
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i dont see how that applies?

rotund stratus
sick lake
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Worlds look so monotonous

short abyss
sick lake
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Now

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Even with the new update

rotund stratus
sick lake
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It's just my opinion...but I think nothing significant has been done on land and mountain gen

short abyss
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also ontop of new planets, old planets were refreshed with new biomes and terrain

dense basin
rotund stratus
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There was 0 new terrain. The generation method was optimised but no new terrain was added

short abyss
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what would you want in new terrain?

sick lake
dense basin
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Air exposed cave systems would be interesting

short abyss
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as for new generation, if they've optimized the generation method, chances are part 2 will be overhauling it

sick lake
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It's unrealistic to expect so much from a game studio that has given its all and more....so we can hope

rotund stratus
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I'm super happy with worlds ngl. I do think that if purple worlds get new terrain, a good way to go would be to make it regionally more different

short abyss
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this update is split into 2 parts for a good reason if you ask me

vocal kite
dense basin
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Yeah, I love the new update but I hope they update caves because they really need to. They're completely neglected.

short abyss
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im willing to bet generation is being overhauled in part 2 which is why water was focused on first

sick lake
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What are the things they must be working on in Part 2? Assuming they don't add onto features already updated in Part 1

rotund stratus
short abyss
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its very clear this updates focus is on world generation

rotund stratus
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In #nms-spoilers there's a decent amount of semi confirmed stuff for part 2

short abyss
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water got the lions share of adjustments but there is more to it than that, and im willing to bet this is foundational work to a larger overhaul to terrain generation, which is why the update was split into parts

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it would have to as is, because the new element

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the chromatic one i mean

sick lake
short abyss
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they have to redo alot of indium systems to allow for this purple element to generate

dense basin
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I think besides terrain, they need to also add more parts into the procedural generation for animals. I see the same deer creature every 3 planets I visit

short abyss
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most likely they are doing the deformation mesh so they can add faux-rivers

sick lake
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Could a handcrafted planet be too much to ask? Or a system? At the center of the galaxy?

short abyss
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the water isnt actually "flowing" since that would be taxing on physics systems for no reason, so rivers might instead just have a property where they will appear to "flow" on the surface

short abyss
rotund stratus
short abyss
rotund stratus
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Oh yeah that

short abyss
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its made to fold and stretch without breaking

sick lake
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I tried finding signs of disaster level weather events with no luck. Tsunamis in particular

short abyss
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i think they've avoided adding destructive events because of bases

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wouldn't it be really annoying for your base to randomly get burried in dirt or flooded out?

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as for that in general, the leaks datamined is not the whole of the update. so it may not have been left behind for dataminers to find rather than not being present at all

rotund stratus
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I'm not so sure that the water meshes would actually be able to flow like a river

sick lake
rotund stratus
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An animated mesh and fluid physics are super different

short abyss
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and yes fluid physics would be way too taxing for no reason

sick lake
short abyss
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the water wouldn't actually flow, it would just appear that way

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you couldn't possibly expect that on a technical level with random generation. unless it were to implement a voxel system

dense basin
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We need more derelict freighter experiences but on the ground, underground and underwater

rotund stratus
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The engine also can't detect the height of specific terrain pieces, apparently

short abyss
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im a bit confused on what you mean by that

rotund stratus
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Sean mentioned it a while ago iirc

short abyss
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like it cant tell how high a mountain is?

sick lake
short abyss
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its likely it will be updated

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though im not really sure what people would want out of caves

dense basin
short abyss
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i guess they could put more ore mining spots underground

rotund stratus
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Like altitude data is something it can work out, but getting the altitude of a specific voxel is something it can't really do, at least that's my understanding. It's because all the individual voxels in the terrain exist independant of each other

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Or something to that effect, iirc

oblique smelt
short abyss
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oh so the engine just checks the points between when generating height

sick lake
short abyss
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up for interpritation really

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if they can do that for LNF then they could implement it in a more limited manner for NMS

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2-3 associated biomes per a world type compared to how LNF does it

sick lake
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Anyone played SC here? What's the world gen like over there.

dense basin
rotund stratus
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LNF appears to be generating rivers but they do look flat. I have a feeling that they're just designing a terrain shape and some pebble textures etc for it

rotund stratus
sick lake
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You have more room to work with on 1 planet instead of thousands. I would expect much much better. And more realistic.

narrow moss
#

OOH OHO - I remember the idea that I think needs to be added ASAP

super simple but best refrence is that of the fallout pip boy VATS overlay
and if you don't understand that refrence (the outlin that covered plants/ores/animals or whatever else you're trying to scan)

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we need the ability to change scanner colors

sick lake
narrow moss
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so when we point our viewfinder at a target we can have the outline color be of our choise (un discovered could be red and alreayd discovered could be green) (or yellow an purple, or black and white or blue and blue whatever)

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sorry I suck at typing but you know what I mean

sick lake
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I think there's a mod already like that?

rotund stratus
narrow moss
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the ONLY way right now to see if I havent scanned something is if it has a (????) around what ore it gives

rotund stratus
#

Still though it's not a good idea to buy it, I really regret it 😭

sick lake
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But ideas are never dead. Can be revived again

rotund stratus
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True. 0 incentive to ever actually deliver a finished product

toxic slate
leaden kite
#

airports on planets, not just landing pads bowloftears

tulip pagoda
icy thunder
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if it leaves development hell anytime soon

toxic slate
#

This is not really a place to advertise for Star Citizen, this is for talking about NMS. But you're welcome to use #other-games

dire badge
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milking spaceship sales

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Lol wut

turbid sonnet
#

How the extreme sentinel planet are you going to milk an intangible concept?!

hot flame
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@tulip pagoda Get outta here with Star Citizen. Use #other-games

sour jasper
hot flame
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Not yet, and yes

oblique smelt
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I want to rub living ship belly so it would hum me a melody. Or when u stop in deep space it will sing a lulaby.

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And maybe a way to grow living ships. They look like hatchling , still in egg shape

vale schooner
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and more weapons for them pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase

muted plover
#

i wonder if they will ever add different biomes for each planet. like a forestry region, rocky region, or lake/water region for planets or that will be too much work

noble orbit
#

anyone suggested being able to dive deeper into the factions a bit in someway? How about destroying spac estations and waging war against a faction? Being able to convert or take systems over for the free order?

sour jasper
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Also the Foundation/Pathfinder/Atlas Rises terrain gen had this thing where you could get smaller-scale regional variety, I think by having certain ground types having different flora spawn behavior, it just wasn't super common (and I think limited to lush and desert worlds from what I've seen).

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I get the impression Light No Fire does have multiple biomes in the sense of NMS planet types together in its world so I'd kind of imagine if the engines end up converging that they could do something like that in NMS too?

short abyss
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honestly LNF is likely them developing this system for both games

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LNF will have all the varied biomes on a singular "planet"
while NMS will get a version where a planet type will have a few different biomes that are split along it.

odd horizon
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I want HG to implement variety of regions. Planets can be still single biome locations, but with different regions: plains, mountains, forests and etc.

dire badge
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I mean, they can't backport everything, they've gotta save some stuff for lnf

sour jasper
dire orchid
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Please can you make better multi tool laser weapons, like pew pew star wars lasers.
I find myself going back to boltcaster everytime because its SO much better than the rest.

tulip pagoda
narrow moss
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What about overhead chat bubbles, that you could disable in setting ( if you didn't always want em to show up)
styled probably in a futuristic way cuz it's no mans sky - your chat would appear above your head - Runescape style

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also it would be nice if they could (or maybe it's on my end) fix the language [X][X][X][X][X] chat barrier

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like I know this sounds stupid but even if it was the actual letters of another language and I couldn't understand it It would b better than the Boxes which are basically a ???? for chat

short abyss
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just an idea. some kind of ai robotic voice synthesis for text chat sounds funny. Not of an actual persons voice, similar to something like microsoft SAM but with a bit more texture.

If its a censored word it instead makes a slight crackling noise like the audio cuts out before continuing

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i know of a game called Moonbase alpha that implemented a similar system though it was a literal text to speech

thin dragon
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idea: use chat gbt or some other ai for npc reactions and conversations?

short abyss
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dont know about that, especially since the languages are not random gibberish, they are a direct word to word cypher

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honestly with a bit of retooling to introduce important language concepts such as grammar, and methods of creating contractions and other variations on existing words that would make sense within the vocabulary, they could actually make all 4 of the existing languages real engineered languages.

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i think its called morphology or something

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the principles behind how languages are formed from concepts. why words mean what they do and all that

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still regardless, AI would be useless here since words would need to be direct translated to the specific language, therefore could not account for random word variations that do not exist that ai may or may not create

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also the player has limited choices which make the possible rendtions of a response equally limited

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AI could be used for text to speech provide audio behind the alien language, since speaking that gibberish clearly with many variations would become annoying.
however for the generation of text itself would likely be extremely cumbersome to add.

leaden kite
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star system radio Perchance

lusty dagger
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AI is gonna be a blessing for this game. While other games would use it to build their game, NMs could use it for voices yes, or quest on planets, heck maybe we can get cities or inhabited planets with an ai making a somewhat comprehensible city

hot flame
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They are using their own proprietary tech, I have large doubts they do anything at all with AI in the future

rotund stratus
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AI also kinda defeats the point of NMS

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Also if it's just being used for alien voices, there's procedural vocalisation stuff which would probably just be better

solar heron
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i love how NMS mentions its underwater monsters as "abyssal" or somethin like "deep water" while u can literally see the floor of the ocean while flying (man i really hope they will add deep ocean planets)

north ermine
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where are they i dont find him abyssal

solar heron
oblique smelt
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Its also proc gen

rotund stratus
solar heron
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mb

halcyon remnant
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Man, I really wish I could build my own custom settlements from scratch using a mix of base building objects and the settlement buildings ; n;! You guys think that might ever be a thing?

rigid pine
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I think they should add something that does the opposite of black holes and takes you further from the core, maybe white holes?

fringe wharf
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AI would replace game writers wouldn't it? I am not sure how I feel about that

normal swallow
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No, in my eyes game writers are a form of entertainment. So specifically any type of entertainment with some ai affiliated rules will not fully be touched by AI in anyway

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I’m actually researching on topics for a dissertation when I do my masters in robotics, my main focus will be automation with AI. And one thing in general that I specify and WILL specifically state, is that Entertainment as a whole should not be automated through AI, with some exceptions.

unreal canopy
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when paint will be invented

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so ships and items can change colours

fringe wharf
normal swallow
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The planetary generation is automated

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The fauna, plant life, etc is automated

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The structures are all automated, with some exceptions such as the anomaly, and the expedition structures

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Now those are hand crafted

fringe wharf
normal swallow
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Automation is a set of tasks that are always repeated without human intervention. Once you create the algorithm you don’t need to look back cause you know what it will do

fringe wharf
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Gotcha

normal swallow
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Where I draw the line is when intelligent automation is involved. You basically tell the rules to the computer and it comes up with an algorithm that matches those rules. You as an individual do not know or see what the algorithm is, and you don’t know if the AI has followed your exact instructions or rules. The creativity in this is gone, because now the computer is doing all the work for you, and many jobs has been lost because of this within the entertainment field.

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I do think intelligent automation should be used elsewhere. And that would be related outside of the entertainment scope

rotund stratus
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As it stands currently, AI had 0 place in any creative medium imo

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Especially visual, since it very blatantly plagiarises

normal swallow
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Currently it’s obvious to tell when something is AI created, due to the fact that the learning models only obtain what is found on the great wide web, it uses that information to create whatever information that you gave it.

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You tell it to create a cartoon mouse, it will probably copy Mickey Mouse

short abyss
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to be fair, just for text to speech, i think its fine given they just put in their own voice data.

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AI has a use to an extent, its that its being ballooned into every aspect where it just falls apart completely

cosmic fox
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heres a question, why not deepdive into the cosmic horror, ala gemini home entertainment and dead space planets

short abyss
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because companies want to be able to not pay artists and have a machine create things for free

normal swallow
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Here’s the thing when it comes to exceptions, I believe AI should be used in the Entertainment field, when it comes to grammar fixing, debugging, and play testing.

short abyss
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i think having ai use voice data to say the alien languages in game with proper prose depending on the context would be fine.

normal swallow
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For certain AI will improve and I still don’t thing we should shy away completely. AI can be beneficial when it isn’t used to remove creativity

fringe wharf
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If AI can save a company five bucks per transaction they will invest heavy money into that.

normal swallow
short abyss
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basically it would read the sentence in english, take the appropriate emphasis such as anger or cheer, then use that to say the words in the original alien language

normal swallow
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I would prefer a human being to make their own alien dialect.

short abyss
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i dont think it removes creativity, because theres no way for them to voice every language variation with several variations so it doesn't sound monotonous when its all gibberish

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keep in mind, its quite literally all gibberish

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this isn't klingon, theres no adherence to linguistic morphology or grammar

normal swallow
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Hmmm okay

short abyss
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words do have specific translations but thats the extent of it

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so say... the word "cannot" has a direct translation in a loose sense.

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but the word "can't" doesnt exist

fringe wharf
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What about games using text-to-speech?

short abyss
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same principle

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its just a fancier way of doing text to speech

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given they use voice data that is theirs to own, the only thing that changes is how the audio is output

cosmic fox
short abyss
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i dont even want to know how a human would create a dialect for the autophage

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best leave that to microsoft sam

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its easy to say have a human do it, but then your having to parse this.

full dune
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we should have a live photo mode so that we can take videos too and or let time pass to a certain point if we are trying to capture a giant worm for instance popping out of the sand

bright anchor
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Fishing

thorny mauve
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Sort button

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I beg

latent urchin
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Need more control options (especially of the more niche and nuanced types) like with the scan mode having a zoom function on controller for example. The fact that you’re locked into using the L2/LT and don’t have the option to use the analog functionality of the trigger to adjust the zoom (layman terms: pull L2/LT slightly you get small zoom, pull it mid way you get mid zoom, pull it all the way you get max zoom) is really odd to me and it feels like a potential control option on the R3/RS is just being wasted or at the very least feels unoptimized. This is further supported by the adaptive triggers on the PS5 controller (add a level of resistance to make for easier operation of this concept)

And this is just one of many

latent urchin
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And if you want to make some argument about keyboard and mouse support not getting these features because the buttons aren’t analog well may I introduce you to the wooting 60HE (a keyboard with analog buttons) or some of razors new keyboards

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A big thing with the worlds update is visual overhauls like with the water and clouds but one thing that kinda irks me is how weather conditions don’t really affect the visual identity of you, your ship, your exocraft, or buildings. I mean technically not even with the environments (plants and other vegetation) either especially of note the animals. So seeing that with all this would really help bring it together

The best way I could give credence to this is when you walk around on a snow planet during a blizzard you don’t get a bunch of snow on you nor does something like your ship the only thing that really occurs to you is when it rains (a glossy effect) but it only affects you and not your ship

This entire idea is to give more weight to what planet you’re on and how hazardous it may be; a visual feedback to the player beyond the hazard protection % going down. This as well as inversely showing the player how good a paradise planet is

dense basin
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Stop parking us at the front of the space station if the back is available

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I wanna get to the vendors faster

toxic slate
latent urchin
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Just a friendly reminder 4 years after the PS4/Xbox One launched it was 2017 so like if people are to complain idk what to say but like idk maybe not be on PS4/Xbox One lol as rude as that sounds if you even got a PS3/Xbox 360 version of a PS4/Xbox One game that was anything remotely close to the PS4/Xbox One version you were basically grateful for it

dense basin
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They need to add flying predators, flying creatures that can land and walk around too

unreal knot
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being able to fly freighters 🔥

dense basin
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The other exocrafts need some cosmetics and new items like the mech keeps getting

rotund stratus
sour jasper
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I can see flying predators getting really annoying honestly.

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Wellll if they went after prey fauna but left the player alone that could be cool

solar heron
sour jasper
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I never really played Minecraft, are those like cliffracers ..)

solar heron
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Lets go to offtopic ill explain it

gloomy hazel
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Would love more graphic settings for different things, and hopefully dynamic shadows soon, improved camera mode, and a better building system

lyric flower
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I would kill for a fire pit decorative part. The fireplace rules and I use it in basically every build I do but I’d love an outdoor fire pit for some of my outdoor spaces

tulip pagoda
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In NMS Synthesis they added

PROTECTED TERRAIN EDITS
Terrain edits made within a base are now protected from regeneration. The protected edit system has been improved to allow more edits to be made before reaching the cap.

Whatever happened to that because I've never seen this work at all?

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and another feature that was added in Origins - Tornados

Doesn't ever happen at all either? what happened to that?

"Powerful tornadoes now spiral across planets during the strongest storms, scooping up any unfortunate fauna or explorers who cross their path."

lyric flower
toxic slate
sour jasper
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There are some videos of tornadoes on reddit, from the latest update

toxic slate
spark wren
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Sentinel Frigates? You can recruit them if you destroy the Sentinel Dreadnought

stoic palm
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Multicrew ships? Some medium sized ships that are 1/2 the size of a frigate that can be controlled by 4 players max and 1 to 2 player atleast that you can roam in when pulse jumping and also when flying through space. Your crew mates crafting at the back while you’re flying or sit next to you in the main cockpit in 4 seats. Basically a bigger ship that has more co-op capabilities and can consider the smaller ships as “Small sized 1 player ships”

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How do we feel on that?

warm cliff
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That sounds awesome, honestly

toxic slate
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Personally I don't really see the gameplay purpose for multicrew ships unless you let the other players control ship systems. HG also haven't ever really spent time on content that could only be used in multiplayer, probably bc there's a ton of people that only play this game SP

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I think I would rather them enhance freighters or frigates so real players or hireable NPCs could man the ship systems (weapons, shields, squadron support, etc), as part of a fleet vs. fleet combat system

short abyss
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if they were to add multi-crew ships, id rather they just massively increase the size of existing ships than a new type that would most likely either be worse, or completely outclass current ships

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though if you ask me, we already have crew ships, they're called freighters

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add a system for hiring actual crew members rather than just the faceless dudes we got now, and that be enough to me

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at most add some sort of manual flight, and weapons system. but honestly i wouldn't even see the need to go that far since there wouldn't be much of a point to do so

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the only idea id have for it is to add super gravity planets that can't be walked on, but your freighter can fly in and mine using its arsenal.

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im talking the scale is if your freighter were a normal ship, so you could fly and find a good ore spot to mine up goods. maybe gas giants with a similar principle

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i guess a freighter micromanagement update is what im describing, lol.

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seeing as pirate freighters will have crews of pirates defending it. We can have the same, which can defend us during random attacks. we could help but given we have a full roster of decent ships its likely you win by default.

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im thinking every frigate you add can have up to 2 different ships to defend it and the main freighter

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this is seperate from your squadron system (though maybe your squadron can act as your main freighter defence ships)

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your defense ship limit is set by the number of frigates you have, though only so many are deployed at once for performance reasons.
once those ships go down, new ones spawn in.

You from the bridge if your ship if you sit in the captains chair, can view zoomed out version of the outside of the freighter, which gives you info on the state of your defense, freighter, and gives access to calling for torpedos from your frigates, or emergency warp. You can also manually call in active ships for repairs, which will cycle out new ones. Just incase you want to keep certain ships in the fight longer

you can select certain ships to be attacked by your anti-ship cannons on the freighter, and your freighter cannons can attack other freighters whether attacking pirate freighters, or pillaging friendly freighters.

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this is where the Crew system is important. Your crew consists of "teams" of 6 members, with the total combination of profiency leading towards how well your freighter preforms in specific tasks.
the reason for so many members is because they will be the crew that walks around your freighter rather than the shallow faces meant to look busy rather than actually serving a purpose.

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There are 5 teams.
The Coordination team, which improves the coordination and speed at which defence ships move in formation and assault targets.
The Repair team, which improves the speed damaged freighter components, and ships docked for repair are fixed.
The Gunner Team, which improves how effective your on freighter weaponry is, and the reload time between torpedo calls.
The Tech Team, which directly correlate to how effcient and fast your on freighter machinery is, and the amount of power you have access to.
The Trade Team, which affect how often traders dock onto your ship and the quality of their wares, or their ships.

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These teams have sub upgrades or can have certain functions changed, such as instead of a trade team wanting better quality or more goods, you could instead make it so it increases the chance of higher quality ships, or pirate traders being invited onto the brig instead, or instead focus on buffing the rewards from returning frigates
Same principle, gunner team could have the anti-ship or anti-freighter cannons replaced with alternate firepower, such as rockets rather than lasers.
Coordination teams can improve the time which frigates return from trips or the number of good events that occur. etc etc.

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people really want a ship with a crew, i think its better to just retrofit freighters to fit that role. With the many possible functions making it so you actually have some choice in what your freighter "does" to make it so your not just picking the highest stat crew, some are S rank but preform better in one area that you could center your team around, or may preform really good in an area that doesn't have much with what your team does. So you could make yourself into a makeshift dreadnaught, a trade vessel, a frigate operations station, a production hub, etc etc.

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5 teams with 6 people each mean you'll have around 30 different people around your ship. which i think its enough. Ontop of traders docked there, and the men in your squad or manning the frigates. which could be used for a artificially inflated crew number, to add flavor to the complexity of your operation.

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i think thats sufficent for micromanagement. so people feel like they have a ship with a crew.

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...sorry for the flood. i get really detailed when i get super into an idea

toxic slate
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Yeah pretty much agreed on that, a lot of the same ideas I've had for a while. Freighters need to feel more "you're own" and utilizing hireable NPCs to affect stats and ship role would be great. Right now the crew is just kind of decoration, but it could be so much more.

Anyway you should send all that to zendesk

short abyss
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i have a bad feeling me sending in a bug report that repackaged tech trading to other players doesnt work every update has made them blacklist my reports

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i am still really fucking miffed that repackaged tech trading doesn't work

toxic slate
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Hah I've asked them to increase the day/night cycle length every update, hopefully they still read my bugs

loud creek
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Derelicts need a rework i think, the logs tell of like 10 different possible fates a ship could have but none of them really strike out as apparent

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A ship with a "ai aggression monitor imprisoned for dereliction of duty" should have an angry ai but nah it's just weird jellyfish floating around

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Or the korvax captain fusing himself with the ship

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Decide ship threat (horror infestation, rouge AI, other) and then generate logs based on the threat

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I wanna play red light green light with the cocoons to get to a log with an automated security scan saying "DNA no longer matches initial scan"

short abyss
severe magnet
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i just want a fix for these shoulders, there's stout npcs where they look normal so why 😭

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stoic palm
rotund stratus
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If they ever add surface dungeons, I think it would be cool if they took them in a different direction to derelicts

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Instead of combat and horror, a mix of natural hazards, minor puzzles and traps would be super cool imo, India Jones style treasure hunting

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You could even do stuff like having to roll one of those large spheres into a recepticle, traps being triggered by opening the wrong chest, winding layouts and stuff

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Also, integration of the settlement proc gen system into the main POIs would be awesome. Instead of just finding an observatory, imagine coming across a Korvax science outpost with several buildings and some residents. Maybe have a quest giver and a trade terminal there too

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Dominant race specific POIs would be awesome too. Vy'Keen military outposts, Korvax science outposts, and Gek having beefed up trading outposts

real reef
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^ x10000

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surface buildings same as day 1

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needs rework there

weak dagger
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https://youtu.be/0APP5WcX8v8?si=nJpTrJ3j9xKkH3x_

This is what worlds part 2 ought to be…

YouTube
HelloGamesTube
No Man's Sky: Infinite Worlds

No Man's Sky is a science-fiction game about exploration and survival in an infinite procedurally generated universe. This is just a tiny sample of worlds you could visit.

http://www.no-mans-sky.com/

Music: Pacify by 65daysofstatic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyZ0_M6v7JM

Developed by Hello Games, the indie studio behind PS3 hit Joe Dange...

▶ Play video
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A postmortem

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Still dumbfounds me all these years later

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This literally queued up after the light no fire announcement trailer, a big sigh followed

tight copper
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There are two things I want to have in NMS:

  1. Local Storage Containers.
  2. Sort your inventory and storage, etc.
regal sun
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So with the whole "purple stellar metal" thing, what do you think will be the case with that?
Will we get purple stars?

rigid pine
regal sun
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So if there's an unnamed purple stellar metal, what would that be?

rigid pine
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I think it was most likely referring to indium

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But a new type of star would be cool

gilded mesa
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indium is blue and is found in blue star systems, a new stellar metal would mean a new star type

oblique smelt
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I hope for new maximum security planets in worlds part 2. with only walkers and mechs. Maybe the planets could have valuable or rare elements like platinum or deuterium deposits. Planet could have unique terrain gen type.

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rotund stratus
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If not more

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Apart from the giant Dino herd planet

icy thunder
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more extreme sentinel worlds would be a nice touch

sour jasper
toxic slate
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I'm the opposite, I don't like fighting Sentinels at all, and would love to have NPC enemies to fight

icy thunder
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id like foot battles too but that'd be pretty difficult

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tech wise

toxic slate
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In what way? NPC could use the same pathing tech as the animals, with some combat routines added. and they already have all the animations that players have

short abyss
icy thunder
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i feel like it would just end up looking like SW:Outlaws

short abyss
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at the end of the day i fail to see the difference. If you ask me, if we got NPCs to fight it would have to be from assaulting enemy freighters or possibly raiding star stations to take over

icy thunder
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a more indepth boarding system would be sick

toxic slate
icy thunder
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getting the AI to use cover wouldnt be easy

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especially with the randomness of each planet. there'd probably be a decent amount of pathfinding issues

toxic slate
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Sure, it wouldn't be easy. But they are also amazing coders. But hey I'd even take base infiltrations where you have to fight through a pirate camp that's procedurally built. That would be much easier for AI to handle

rotund stratus
icy thunder
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i think fighting is a ways off but not impossible

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im 100% on board for random dungeons and stuff like that

sour jasper
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That being said, if that is the case I don't think that'd necessarily mean it would end up in No Man's Sky, either.

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(Also why I'm hesitant to read too much into the data mining right now :S)

regal sun
short abyss
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it just needs to generate in indium star systems like other stellar metals

regal sun
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OOOOOH

rotund stratus
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Probably gonna just add new stars outright tbh

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Most galactic regions have empty slots for more stars

dense basin
rotund stratus
dense basin
hot flame
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The regions don't have spots for new stars, they already have stars you can't see normally.

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These shadow systems could be utilized for whatever they like, yes.

noble orbit
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@oblique smelt This would be insane. I also hope we can really dive into9 factions more by taking apart systems, claiming for the pirates and destroy stations/convert etc

dense basin
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I still want the minotaur to be able to punch stuff, no clue why we even have fists on the thing at this point

hot flame
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!hg

misty irisBOT
hot flame
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Add your voice!

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I have 🙂

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Minotaur Melee is needed!

short abyss
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hey so remember how i mentioned that they should add water worlds, with under water cities that are hidden similar to Autophage camps?

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this is quite literally what i mean

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the lack of geometry should improve preformance, so they could have complex underwater city structures, with like either autophage, or another new hidden race

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hopefully those shark guys

toxic slate
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That planet seems bugged, but interesting that it has Atlas-shaped graphics on the bottom

dense basin
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Add a customizable radial menu option

short abyss
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its a bug for sure, but it perfectly explains what im talking about

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water planet, just have large constructed underwater bases with npcs wandering about. with some kind of tech, maybe an upgraded scan harmonizer

hot flame
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They did just add water landings - seems possible

icy thunder
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imagine if they did that and added ships that can switch between water and air/space

toxic slate
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yeah the water landings seem a bit too random of an addition in Part 1 to not be useful for Part 2

toxic slate
short abyss
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maybe a mix?

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ship can only go so far, so for crushing depths you need to be in the nautilon

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one thing i wish they would add is a multi-tool weapon wheel

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hold G quick select what you want. Perfect

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probably also a sub weapon wheel by holding the middle mouse button but i guess the X menu is fine

toxic slate
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maybe we'll get a revamp of the Nautilus, turn it into more of a crewed submarine

short abyss
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i guess?

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i get the crew concept but i like the idea of being isolated and alone at the dark depths of the ocean

toxic slate
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the controls of it need to be refined in any case, I don't find it handles very well. and the top speed probably needs a boost

short abyss
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oh sure, but if crew members are just going to be stat buffs in npc form. i'd prefer keeping the isolation and offering more tech options

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frankly, with how outclassed exocrafts are compared to most ships, i always thought they should just remove the tech limits on them so people can crank the numbers super high

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kinda like how people will break in a nitro engine, and it makes everything more unstable, but you can get more power out of it.

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What happens is that nitro increases the rate at which fuel is burnt, increasing the output of the engine. Problem is this puts stress on the intake manifold, overheats the vehicle, and corrodes the cylinders, ontop of other issues which can cause massive damage.
Nitro in this is instance is Nitrous Methane, which is used for drag racing, not Nitrous Oxide

NOS, Wet NOS in particular can also risk a catastrophic failure, usually due to pooling or backfire

toxic slate
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I always assumed they limited exocraft speeds because they would outrun the terrain engine's ability to render objects. In a ship they can just not render stuff as you're flying above the ground, but with an exocraft you need to know what you're about to run into

short abyss
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basically what im saying is that you can fuck with a car alot more and get more preformance, compared to like.... a plane where you'll probably kill everyone on it by trying to fuck with the engine

short abyss
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because the starborn runner and interceptors let you hover above ground where stuff does render

toxic slate
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it's solid because they don't render many of the smaller objects when you're 50 feet above ground

short abyss
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you do know that you can hover off the ground in a ship right?

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like close enough that everything renders normally

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this is kinda what i mean by the fact that exos tend to be outclassed by ships due to all the love they've gotten in the past year of updates

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honestly if exos got superior ore mining power, and the ability to harvest minerals by crashing into stuff, they'd be top tier again

toxic slate
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on low-end systems? I would be surprised if it can keep up on a PS4. but maybe.
but at the end of the day most people just don't find Exocrafts useful when the ships are right there and fuel costs are trivial

short abyss
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yeah thats kind of a problem with the community tbh. Especially people still complaining about missing features

toxic slate
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they backed themselves into that corner when they added backpacks that can hold as much as a ship's cargo

short abyss
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You want it, but just to have it, its actually not much better than something already in the game

toxic slate
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back in the day I used to use the Colossus for mining operations because it could haul a ton of stuff. now it's pointless

short abyss
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for example planetary rotation, apparently it was added but later removed because it just seemed confusing to testers.

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or something about no skyboxes which is absurd

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those are technical features that 90% of people wouldn't even notice

toxic slate
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Planet rotation seems to be fine in Elite:D and SC. It's just a matter of the right UX to guide players. It's not like pre-release of the game they had a lot of time to spend refining that, so they just took it out. but that doesn't mean the feature is a bad idea.

short abyss
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atleast to me anyway

toxic slate
short abyss
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i mean yeah, but i think 90% of players wouldn't even notice or wouldn't care that much

sour jasper
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I've never really stayed in one place long enough to notice planetary rotation :S

short abyss
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...wow, was not expecting instant confirmation.

sour jasper
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I also honestly never noticed it much in Elite 2 except in situations where it made the auto pilot act up!

short abyss
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that being said exocrafts can be useful, they just need functions unique to them and the ability to outpreform ships in areas.

Maybe the pilgrim is the fastest and the best at drifting. The Nomad can preform extending mid air hovering. Maybe the Roamer has the best mining efficency and gets the maxmimum amount out of mining ores in the ground. The Minotaur is the best at combat.

Give the Collusus the ability to harvest planets and rocks by crashing into it. Its bulky size would make it perfect for this

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honestly if the exocrafts became the prime harvesting vehicles that would probably make them super useful

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another idea is, emphasize these features and make it so each type of exocraft has a different technology type totally uncapped for them.

toxic slate
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I'm surprised they never made the Collosus a multiplayer transport exocraft. Seemed like a perfect use case to give it a solid role, and nope they just let it become pointless

short abyss
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Pilgrim gets uncapped speed upgrades.
Nomad gets uncapped hover time increases
Roamer has uncapped mining efficency and amount upgrades (so it outpreforms the multi-tool)
Minotaur gets uncapped weapon upgrades
The Collossus gets efficency on materials it crashes into.

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it gives them each something that actually matters

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because honestly, i want the pilgrim to outpace a ship within sub orbit speed. That would be useful.

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being able to hover around in the nomad would be useful

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being able to get the most out of stellar metal deposits in the ground without having to make the terrain manipulator on your multi-tool as small as possible would be useful

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mass plant and rock mining would be useful.

toxic slate
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If I have one criticism of NMS's dev style though, it's that they tend to just add new things instead of refining the things already in the game. Like did we need that many exocrafts? Why not make the ones we had more useful first. Same with the crazy amount of weapon types we have. Spend more time making combat feel solid instead of just adding things that don't address that.

short abyss
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People wanted exocrafts.

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and to be fair, they have been regularly improving combat

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the sentinel and dissonant planet updates come to mind

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though i remember a third update which improved all the weapons to give them more purpose and features

toxic slate
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I must disagree, I think combat feels just as bad as it always did, from a gameplay "are you having fun in this moment" POV. They've added more mechanics, but I don't think the feel of combat has ever been improved much

short abyss
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What your describing though is my problem with the community to an extent.

They want more, without the actual thought process of what this really adds to the game

sour jasper
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I don't get the impression that NMS was ever really supposed to be combat focused.

short abyss
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i enjoy the combat personally, so we'll agree to disagree on that front. But i think its inarguable they are trying to improve it

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they have made combat focused updates

sour jasper
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... Which also maybe gets back to the "it was something the community was asking for even if it wasn't really the most appropriate addition" thing

toxic slate
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A lot of my criticism about combat boils down to movement. Player movement feels ok for exploration, but for fast-paced combat it feels sluggish

short abyss
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they are actively trying to improve where they feel neccessary but your right, they get caught up in all the features that people want. which seems to make it difficult to focus on improving features they already have

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im not saying HG is perfect, but i do think its the community that has a part in this pattern you take issue with

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honestly i wouldn't mind some kind of combat roll, though it would probably be nausiating in VR

toxic slate
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I definitely agree with you that the community is a multitude of hungry baby birds who all want to be fed

dense basin
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Maybe exosuit upgrade that allows you to directionally dodge with your jetpack

short abyss
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On the topic of exocrafts though, i think they can all be made useful in their own ways. HG just needs to go and give them important distinctions that let them excel beyond where a starship is more of a general tool

toxic slate
short abyss
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i guess some kind of jet dash would be fun

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honestly they should have kept the melee jet boost and instead made it a proper exosuit tech upgrade.

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I think i got my exosuit maxed out with all the tech possible and still have leftover spots

dense basin
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Don't know what buttons they'd use to make it happen but maybe if you also hold that button, you can use your jetpack to increase your sprint speed as well.

short abyss
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honestly, i was kinda tinkering around with the idea of Exosuit Subsystems that give your exosuit certain unique features outside of your tech setup

dense basin
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Minotaur should innately be able to do that dodge as well, though it'd cover less ground obviously. It should also get that jetpack sprint boost and the AI should be able to make use of it as well. Edit: Less ground in propotion to its size that is

short abyss
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Maybe a defensive subsystem that gives you a short jet burst if you double tap space and a direction. With more Health points.

Or an offensive Subsystem which allows you to charge into enemies by pressing melee and space to deal a ton of damage at the cost of some shield

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An exploratory sub system that cuts down on scan time, and gives you access to that long range melee jet boost that was patched out during one of the expeditions

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but you have less health and your shields aren't as good

dense basin
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Yeah, doesn't rocket boots upgrade use a double tap jump system? They can just repurpose it for this dodging mechanic

short abyss
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kinda like how ships let you redirect power to subsystems

short abyss
dense basin
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Well, maybe hitting space twice with no direction gives an added upward boost. You can give enemies some AOE attacks that sweep across the ground

formal pasture
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I think a power diverting system with most things would be a definite plus on most things. Allow you to prioritize space suit functions and exocraft functions. Don't really see a downside to it

dense basin
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Also, they need to change it so that when going up a hillside, it doesn't activate rocket boots just from landing

short abyss
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im still waiting to see if they will actually add multi-swords to the game

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dense basin
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In fact, they just need to use radial menus in general for a lot of things

short abyss
short abyss
formal pasture
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Where you could have different setups for whatever you're doing?

dense basin
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Now that I think about it, why the heck have they not added radial menus? So many things could make use of it, multitool weapons, ship weapons, ship power systems, etc.

short abyss
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so instead of like ships where you can redirect power on the fly, you gotta go to a place to do that.

I think its a fair limitation that enforces the choice aspect, and allows for more customization without making it a permanent choice

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also makes the upgrade stations not useless even after you have maxed out the exosuit

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which i think should be important for all fixtures at the space station, usefulness regardless of what point in the game you are

formal pasture
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I see your point but it would be almost impossible to predict what you're going to get into. I think that's why the ship power subversion works good as a function is because it's available at all times. It's not super OP and it doesn't take away anything. Having to go back to swap out a loadout just seems like it would be a hassle and I would find myself just not really using it except in special cases.

dense basin
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Make it so you can put that as an upgrade into your freighter

formal pasture
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Maybe make it like a loadout drop pod if your freighter is in the system but then that alienates multiplayer people when only one person can call it in at a time

dense basin
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Well, they just need to allow multiple player freighters in one system

thorny mauve
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There would be no use to add this but it would be cool to drive around ur freightrr

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Or maybe have some big capital ship battle

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I have a dreaghtnaught and i wish i could use those massive cannons

fringe wharf
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I feel like NMS needs to flesh out the mechanics it already has rather than add new things. They've added enough

dense basin
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Yeah, I've sent that suggestion to their Zendesk a few times.

dense basin
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Why can we paint entire freighters but not ships?

sour jasper
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Beyond saying that, as a starting point, I'm weird and prefer the simplicity of the older versions

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Adding features is good but I think there's a risk in creating meaningless additional steps for doing things. Like need to create starship fuel instead of just directly refueling with plutonium, or refining in general.

tulip pagoda
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heavily agree

dense basin
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There should be a consumable item that allows you to package an entire tech inventory into one pack. Then you can take it and apply it elsewhere if you have enough slots. You'll have to rearrange the configuration of them though for your supercharged slots.

loud creek
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(q and then jetpack)

dense basin
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You should also be able to preview what's inside of the package so you can see what you're applying

short abyss
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honestly a way to duplicate your base given you have the materials would also be sweet

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or atleast a schematic system

tulip pagoda
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i fw that heavy

dense basin
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We need that

toxic slate
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Instead of system economies and conflict status being completely static forever, it'd be cool to have random events that happen in star systems that can affect trade prices, and have knock-on effects in surrounding systems. Player actions could also affect this. Like say there's a pirate fortress that moves into a system, you go and pick up a mission from the merchant guild to eliminate them because it's depressing trade prices. Once you do, trade prices go even higher than before.

Trade has really been overlooked, and actually sidelined quite a bit, since the Atlas Rises days, even though it's one of the major tentpoles of the game. I'd really like to see some more compelling reasons to do trading, and weave that in with other gameplay systems. And use that interplay to create more emergent stories for the player.

short abyss
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part of me wonders whether this game could use something like elite dangerous where faction stuff is simulated over time

tulip pagoda
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i dont know bro. since multiplayer is such a fuckfest and mostly doesn't actually matter in the slightest i dont think so

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would just be another pointless feature i feel

narrow moss
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I would be in favor of a thunder dome pvp thing that you could que for at the anomoly ]

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like.. a boxing ring

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and you could earn a new form of currency or something

tulip pagoda
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that would be very cool indeed except there are no limits on this game so that mode would be dominated by people with modded weapons (insta kill)

narrow moss
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true true..

tulip pagoda
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this is what i always say, because of HelloGames giving total freedom to the player to do whatever and putting no limits or boundaries on anything they really missed out on so many huge opportunities and i honestly think it has hurt the game

narrow moss
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you know what I really want

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A side button next to all inventories, that sorts the items. Perhaps you could choose to sort them a different way, but at the very least items that are separated into different stacks would all organize and create the least amount of stacks possible.

tulip pagoda
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what do ya want

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true

narrow moss
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I have Adhd and everything is always a mess

tulip pagoda
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im just glad they keep going w the game

narrow moss
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A new expansion that features the return of "Dread Captain Fahng".

icy thunder
dense basin
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Allow the Minotaur to run at the cost of not being able to shoot. It'd just be cool to run with the big mech instead of jetpacking all over the place.

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Add semi-aquatic lifeforms

violet ether
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I’d like the nav points I’ve discovered to be searchable. If I want to return to that one outpost I had discovered, their beacon should have at least imprinted their coordinates into my log. Getting tired of doing it on paper.

sleek birch
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Game need underground update

toxic slate
sleek birch
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Imagine you find some ancient folk in underground and they share technology with you

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This is my idea

dense basin
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Or rather, make it possible for them to go that deep on rare occasions.

quartz bridge
flat wagon
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I think EXO's need to be fully explored. There is SO much meat on that bone. If I was the dev. and this was my game, that would be my 100% focus in future updates. Like think about this for a second... We get Exo's that are like our Tech with Vendor upgrades. But there are also LIVING EXO's and the only way u get their tech is killing big hard to kill bugs. And/or Corrupted Sentinel EXO. Can you imagine being in a Minitour that is inspired by our coolest ships? But wait theirs more, that also means we get those mods, and enemies to fight! Can we all please get behind this idea and show the best dev team in the world we're into it. Hell I'd pay for it. I'd glad throw my money in the ring for that update.

severe magnet
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i would really like a better internal view in the minotaur, or an upgrade with a better torso window, cause i can't see a thing and i'd really like to do those hulk leaps in 1st person 😂

toxic mesa
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Use its arms by using your arms

severe magnet
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i wish i could afford vr 😂

rotund stratus
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I kinda wish the exocraft were proc gen like ships

fervent chasm
short abyss
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like for example the collosus which is kinda useless rn, give it the ability to harvest materials from rocks and plants it crashes into

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let the pilgrim move faster than a ship at sub orbital speeds

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give the roamer the most efficient mining laser out pacing the multitool, making it the best for mining up ores on the ground compared to the terrain manipulator

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the idea is that while the spaceship and the multitool are general tools, exocrafts should specalize in ways that excel past them

sour jasper
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I don't know if anyone would actually like this and it's admittedly contrived but another thought would be adding a category of extreme hazard planets where you can't really walk around safely outside of an exocraft for any length of time.

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Or like idk /radio interference planets/ where you can't call your ship to you or something.

dense basin
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Put some of the Minotaur's weapon controls onto the RMB/Left Trigger. We have all these weapons yet you can only fire one at a time? Let me fire two at the same time.

toxic slate
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I wish they would fix the way ships land, it's bothered me since 1.0. When ships currently go into a landing animation they hover a bit and then slam onto the ground. The animation should be more of a quadratic easing curve where it slows down at the end so that ships gently touch down. It'd be especially great if the landing gear compressed a bit when landing to give the feeling that there's hydraulic dampeners.

torn fractal
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could you imagine a helicopter landing like that

dense basin
toxic slate
dense basin
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Please properly classify the moons as moons and not planets, HG

shadow wadi
hoary olive
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I wanna fly the dragons I keep finding DarkSide

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make it where we can make them land by throwing food or something

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to tame