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#glyph-investigation
vague obsidianBOT
brazen raven
I mean minecraft did it for years, even before microsoft bought em
cedar smelt
Actually, it's not. I'd rather have NMS "Enhanced" with all these updates than a "2" from scratch
strong coyote
I dunno, there's a lot of things that could be fixed with an engine upgrade
It'd be nice to see the one side of the space station from the other side
cedar smelt
I wouldn't be against a massive overhaul... but I wouldn't want to lose features on the back of it being a sequel
cunning scroll
I mean they said updates were coming for next gen consoles, I'm curious if they will use xbox smart delivery and not charge for the upgrades.
cedar smelt
I guess it depends on what that next gen update would entail
strong coyote
hm, when is the PS5 due to drop
cedar smelt
I'd personally pay another Β£40/Β£50 for another 4 years of NMS on next gen
"Holidays" π
strong coyote
3-4 months? Just long enough for a good ARG
cunning scroll
i feel like the lighting update was part of the next gen upgrade...i mean the only thing the new consoles can really do that is different is higher resolution, ray tracing, and faster load times due to faster hard drives
cedar smelt
My next gen dream is more variation, better water texture, better cloud texture, and less pop in
A dream nonethless
But it might come true
restive sleet
I just want the E3 footage where the whole planet was rendered from space π
that was so sick
strong coyote
I'd just settle for less pop in, and the ship scanner to have a purpose
cunning scroll
yeah people want to say more variation isn't coming but i still hold out hope for it. I know it's been asked for, for quite some time now. I doubt they would just ignore that request entirely.
strong coyote
Can you imagine being able to fire off a scan while flying, that works over more than walking distance?
Basically I think the entire game is limited by the pop-in issues, scan ranges, exocraft speeds
Almost certainly related to memory usage, but I have 32 gigs, give me a bigger draw distance please ;_;
cunning scroll
i wonder if No Man's Sky will be able to take advantage of some of the changes coming to next gen then, I read an article where xbox was talking about how they made changes to the way the gpu loads in textures to reduce pop in.
cedar smelt
I really need to start a new playthrough. My big "normal" save is just tacked on from all the various updates. I need a fresh save and do things like getting a living ship etc
That would be awesom Dietz
cunning scroll
I'm sure with big navi that AMD is expected to bring to PCs this year that they would use their partnership with the consoles and add that same tech in the PC GPUs but then i fear they would be either limited by the PCs RAM or the VRAM on the card itself.
granite sierra
Hi anything?
cunning scroll
I have dragged this conversation far enough off topic lol but someone said they found CEN in the trailer and that is an old english rune which i though could be a clue as to what runes we should be looking at but none of them really line up with the furthark runes
twin token
@cunning scroll oh thanks for the old english rune bit
strong coyote
Baseless speculation is the topic of the room, right ? π
cunning scroll
nothing really new, we are still speculating as to what type of runes/glyphs these are and if the outlines that were done are true to how everyone sees them. I think if we focus on the ones that we know the shapes of that could help us find out what language it is but so far we haven't had much luck.
restive sleet
yeah Ubisoft said that pop in is complete gone in next-gen consoles
tranquil tulip
Did the community mission have anything it?
lyric karma
I can, at least sort of, answer the question of how HG keeps getting paid
using information I have available from subreddit traffic
restive sleet
and some Ubisoft guy also said that next-gen has the power to load different time periods in AC at once
twin token
Cem means ruler in Turkish
restive sleet
so NMS should be able to utilize a lot as well
twin token
Nothing abt CEN
cunning scroll
the first rune is the letter E in klingon but none of the other ones really line up unless you stretch your imagination a bit
granite sierra
Guys landing on derelict freighter for the first time!!!
lament matrix
Is it just me or does the glyphs look like the code wheels from Assassin's Creed
karmic valve
Oh my goodness
I know the glyphs I reckon
Nah
Right
So
We got a spinny wheel in waking titan
That was a code decipher
It was on email
I think I've lost mine
But that had glyphs on it
I'm pretty sure it was a decipher device anyway
Let me find it
No i don't have the email its linked to anymore
Someone else needs to find it
winged rampart
Any ideas on what the glyphs mean yet?
vital frigate
This is #glyph-investigation. #no-mans-sky for freighter stuff and any other general game stuff.
lyric karma
nah this is a temp channel anyway
and this was created from the Desolation trailer weirdness
but yea, technically it's off-topic for this channel
winged rampart
Kinda hope it turns out to be something
cedar smelt
The cipher wheel from WT was different
Soz lol
Unless I'm thinking of the wrong one. This was the one I was thinking which is glyph-less
lament matrix
Another code wheel from assassin's creed
stuck onyx
pretty sure they wont use a code wheel from another game
twin token
I do remember a glyph wheel
wild plank
Itβs just odd there is two things in the video. The glyphs and then C-E
Possibly CEM or CEN or some combination
It feels like that could be a hint as to the first two or three letters
Which might help solve the rest of it
stuck onyx
might be for a sector on the galatic map, if that would bump us to 12 on total
but i dont know the portal mechanics in depth
stuck onyx
i have a high res posted above somewhere too, its definitely CE plus either M or N
wild plank
if Iβm right then the glyph before the last one is also a C
If itβs a word we could look words that match that. If itβs not weβd have to figure out how to find the rest
stuck onyx
there was also a snippet of FI something posted above, but then again we currently have no way to match them to the video runes
lyric karma
that particular frame has a few different partial letters
stuck onyx
yeah
wild plank
I really only see C-E
lyric karma
HA, CE(N?), and FILM
looking at CE, the FILM would be at the bottom of the frame to the left, and HA is almost directly below CE
wild plank
Yah just looked at the better image I definitely see the HA
cedar smelt
The "Ha" is probably "You really paused and looked into this?" HA HA HA π
lyric karma
I mean, the HA's on me, I just tried googling every variation of CEHA film
lament matrix
Nerdest code wheel I code find on the interwebs. Some of the symbols look right but not sure.
proper verge
im checking 4chan for anything on the trailer, but all Im getting is cancer
granite sierra
What happened here?
wild plank
I think HGs sort of silence on matter starts least hints that maybe we arenβt just grasping at straws and this stuff was intentionally in the trailer.
twin token
Ikr
There would be some word
I feel like we need dataminers
And isnt it convenient that the update broke their tools,thus further delaying the investigation?
cedar smelt
It isn't usual for this kind of puzzle to reqiure datamining. During the ARG it was pretty much forbidden to bruteforce the puzzle since it would just spoil the fun
Ofc people can do that - but if it IS a puzzle and we're just missing it, it would be a shame to have it spoiled
twin token
But melody of the egg was solved using datamining
I'm looking at it as an HG made arg
Rather than an alice and smith one
cedar smelt
But datamining wasn't needed to discover Melody of the Egg right? It was all ingame - it just sped up the process
cedar smelt
Ha sorry !!
tranquil tulip
Yeah I dunno if we gonna find answers by looking at WT
placid mango
Hey did anyone else notice that the sound sounded weird towards the end? Has anyone tried to see if thereβs something hidden in that sound?
cedar smelt
Personally,I just think it takes the fun out of things. It would be good for confirmation we're looking at something, but if it's going to give the game away then it's a bust from my end
twin token
Yea
I just hope we have some confirmation
If someone finds confirmation and the rest if the stuff please keep the spoilers to yourself
lyric karma
@cedar smelt it wasn't pretty much, bruteforcing or discussion of bruteforcing was straight up "mute first, ban second" territory
...but I'll be damned if that didn't stop me from Inspect Element on every WT website xD
wordpress sites made it pretty tame though
cedar smelt
hahah!! I think there was some stuff hidden in source code etc though wasn't there? It was just the attempts to proper break the game. A&S knew us so well though, they generally had it all zipped up
granite sierra
It crashed agaaaain
lyric karma
there were a few things hidden in source code
granite sierra
What?
lyric karma
and definitely more than one red herring in source as well
@granite sierra we're talking about Waking Titan, the ARG that HG did with Alice & Smith to setup huge updates
NEXT and Beyond iirc
granite sierra
I hope you'll find something
twin token
I'd love WT but I hope this turns into an ARG to compensate >_<
cedar smelt
Yeah it was before that wasn't it - because the ARG introduced Portals and that was before Next.
But the Nexus came with Beyond and I remember something cryptic around that time to :/
twin token
Wt season 1 was for Atlas rises
cedar smelt
That's it!
twin token
WT season 2 was for Next
cedar smelt
Why do I remember something cryptic about the Nexus for Beyond though?
Was that just teasers from Sean?
twin token
Yeah it was before that wasn't it - because the ARG introduced Portals and that was before Next.
But the Nexus came with Beyond and I remember something cryptic around that time to :/
@cedar smelt
I believe that was the over speculation from the teaser posted by sean
cedar smelt
Ahhh maybe that's it. I knew there was something about it
But I also remember thinking how weird it was that Beyond introduced VR too, when it seemed certain we were getting it with Next
cedar smelt
Yes!!
I'm an old man now though so my memory is so hazy of it all. Was one big blur haha
twin token
This time if the survey wont have variety and procedural generation people will go nuts
Or spam that into the others option
Oh how we speculated by looking at that survey
That was the closest we ever got to a road map
willow sun
Anything new
stuck onyx
so not the norse ones?
stuck onyx
pretty much yeah, also would have to rotate them differently to match
cedar smelt
The one I thought I recognised... |X| in ango saxon rune is d but is also day
willow sun
Why wouldnβt hello games use all same language
cunning scroll
It's definitely something
twin token
I belive it IS something
granite sierra
I don't believe anymore.
twin token
Ok
cunning scroll
if you look at the video imported into photoshop those runes cannot be made from any glitch of background material because there is nothing around that part of the freighter later in the video
twin token
Definelty added in
cunning scroll
I would also speculate that the lines above a few of the runes like the 1st and 3rd may not need to be there
they are a little more pronounced than other parts and i can draw a line all the way across and they sit right on it
but then again they are only more pronounced in one of the images
so thats why i'm speculating
lament matrix
This is a cool website that lets you draw symbol and tells you what Unicode character it is https://shapecatcher.com/ it might help us
granite sierra
Hmmm
cunning scroll
granite sierra
Same
twin token
@cunning scroll try that box on the pinned image?
lament matrix
That website might help us find the language of origin though
stuck onyx
think it would really know the unicode for ancient runes?
twin token
I doubt it
stuck onyx
same
twin token
Does unicode even support runes? Never seen that
stuck onyx
dont know to be honest
cunning scroll
granite sierra
It doesnt
twin token
Thanks a lot @cunning scroll !
stuck onyx
im getting hung up on something else, im pretty sure one of the glitch patterns is using a screenshot or other scene
from what seems to be like an interloper infront of a freighter crash
twin token
Glyph 5 is a musical notation if the site is to be believed
twin token
In greek
granite sierra
Ok
twin token
Ancient greek musical notation 25
twin token
And greek
granite sierra
But I can't find the 7th rune
twin token
How many have u found?
summer canopy
Hows the investigation going
karmic valve
@twin token that thing about anglo saxon is actually huge
twin token
Might be but I'm to tired rn to look into it
Did some but not all glyphs match
@karmic valve why tho?
granite sierra
Guys posted it on cryptologic subreddit. Hope somebody would know.
twin token
Hopefully
summer canopy
What letters do we have so far?
karmic valve
i would really say we have any
i think the first is L
but i think someone else said d or g
can this be pinned as well please
strong coyote
4 vowels and 6 consonants please, Rachel
charred urchin
im sorry we would need your soul for that
proper verge
dam
who was the one who put the pic on r/Cryptology ? we might want to give the original image(s)
charred urchin
i have no idea but where is the reddit post by chance?
proper verge
charred urchin
that's a good idea to get more people
charred urchin
oh no not tumblr
yo if we all upvote it then there is a higher chance of it getting replies btw
granite sierra
That is good idea
I should crospost it somewhere else
What other subreddits should I post it on?
proper verge
hm
charred urchin
r/whatIsThisThing maybe??
proper verge
ive seen some text on there before
celest badger
we could try on r/runes
summer canopy
Post it in r/ARG Too
charred urchin
oh good one
strong coyote
/r/conspiracy, tell them you found it engraved on a coronavirus test kit, they'll be all over that
proper verge
lol
karmic valve
Ahahaa
summer canopy
Yesssss lol
charred urchin
that's fine
proper verge
when you do post , maybe post the image with the orginal and the traced ?
granite sierra
Ok r/runes it's done
charred urchin
as long as we have a list of subs we can put them into we'll be okay
charred urchin
that's good
proper verge
I think might get more traction if we can offer more data tho
summer canopy
How many subs did you post it on?
summer canopy
True
granite sierra
How many subs did you post it on?
@summer canopy 3
charred urchin
that way they have resources to pull from
granite sierra
But I will post it on one more
proper verge
i think that image plus the link would be good. we can put the link in the comments
strong coyote
has anyone checked to see if any of the frames are magic eye puzzles?
granite sierra
Somebody replied.
summer canopy
Make sure to post on r/ARG too
proper verge
person replied with 1400 words in a paste bin
strong coyote
doesn't help too much though cause it could be more than one word
or a proper noun
granite sierra
But admin is not online
charred urchin
i think the problem we might running into is assuming it's a word
we have no idea if it is a word or not
summer canopy
Ooh emilylives
charred urchin
Yesterday there was a lot of talk about those symbols resembling mathematic symbols which have numerical values associated with them
but again it's all just speculation
like the first symbol resembles gamma
strong coyote
maths borrows a tonne of symbols from all over the place
e is a maths symbol, so is i
deep osprey
The first three are mathematical: Gamma is significantly smaller than Laplacian
charred urchin
here is gamma
deep osprey
Also the first two are not from any runic system.
In fact the second symbol will be crucial, I know no alphabet with a symbol like that.
strong coyote
my money is on a simple substitution cipher -that there's no deeper meaning beyond them being mapped to a position in the alphabet
charred urchin
we have thought some of the symbols were for pigpen but not all of the symbols were in pigpen
deep osprey
I'm checking R'lyehian and Klingon right now.
charred urchin
one other piece of evidence that points to it being related to mathematics is this image
me and spaceman found some symbols which resembles math equations and such on the borders
strong coyote
i doubt it'd be pigpen, as from memory isn't pigpen essentially a one time pad? unbreakable unless you have knowledge of the plaintext, or brute force it
deep osprey
Nope, not even a fantasy language with the second symbol.
charred urchin
yeah your right
deep osprey
Must be encrypted then.
proper verge
Im pretty sure after looking at the 2nd symbol from the video, that there is a dot in between the second <
strong coyote
<< is left shift
granite sierra
So something new?
strong coyote
takes the bits of a byte and moves them one space left
summer canopy
It would be insane if it was emilylives. But I doubt it tbh
strong coyote
00000001 becomes 00000010
charred urchin
right
granite sierra
Something new going on?
strong coyote
baseless speculation, same as ever
proper verge
here, found a place where it has a dot
granite sierra
Cool
charred urchin
it also doesn't look like this '<<'
granite sierra
Wow 5 upvotes.** I want comments!**
charred urchin
a more curved first part
proper verge
now that i look, there are things i see on my downloaded video, that i dont see on YT
granite sierra
YouTube downgrades the quality sometimes
charred urchin
honestly the more high res image we cna get the better
strong coyote
so here's a fun thing: the dots are meaningless as far as reality goes. psi doesn't have diaeresis, and if the bowtie is a rune, they don't have dots either
granite sierra
Hmmm I can't anymore. I just can't.
proper verge
i think the 2nd symbol looks more like a proportional symbol
granite sierra
Maybe
charred urchin
yo guys i also realized something we have more photos to use reference
okay here me out
granite sierra
No
granite sierra
Wtf I just got notification from PUBG that I won a match. I haven't played like 2 weeks
strong coyote
hacked
granite sierra
Comment wait
charred urchin
anyway we can use all the images to try and find each individual symbol
and move one from there
plucky raft
"Look guys look it's one of my greatest acheuvments"
charred urchin
we need to have a solid foundation and a clear set of symbols before we start speculating anything
charred urchin
first symbol we are 100% sure that it's an upside down L shape right
granite sierra
Yes
proper verge
yes
granite sierra
And the second is <<
charred urchin
second symbol needs some work i would say
proper verge
maybe
granite sierra
Maybe
strong coyote
the box one is the real mystery to me
granite sierra
Yes
willow sun
I doubt the first symbol translates to l
strong coyote
i've never seen anything like the square one
granite sierra
It is Greek note
plucky glacier
is it just me or are we restarting the whole investigation every few hours
proper verge
i drew them all earlier as best i could from the downloaded vid.
granite sierra
is it just me or are we restarting the whole investigation every few hours
@plucky glacier yes
plucky glacier
bruh moment
granite sierra
Because every time we crash on something
chrome cradle
we dont have a lead. thats the problem
proper verge
granite sierra
Ok cool
proper verge
i wasnt sure on the 2nd earlier
granite sierra
But I disagree with the 2nd one
chrome cradle
like, whether it's pigpen, nordic rune, or something
plucky glacier
good recreation, though the dots aren't part of it imo
granite sierra
It's just<<
plucky glacier
i agree with skop on number 2
stuck onyx
arent those similar to the old portal glyphs ore am i imagining things?
plucky glacier
they're not portal glyphs
plucky glacier
actually i think 8 is somewhat inaccurate
strong coyote
there is some good news at least
stuck onyx
dont think they are portal glyphs, but some do look similar in shape
charred urchin
these glyphs are too simple compared to the old portal glyphs
strong coyote
It's been over a day since this started and HG haven't commented yet
charred urchin
they have a lot of sharp edges and simplistic design
strong coyote
They normally step on fake news fast
plucky glacier
granite sierra
How much of them is there?!
plucky glacier
10
stuck onyx
if they went for a 1:1 look, it would be way too obvious
plucky glacier
it's all the same sequence
strong coyote
Recall that time in Waking titan that someone that wasn't working with A&S started posting clues?
stuck onyx
last symbol looks like the eye portal glyph abstracted, for example
strong coyote
HG stepped on that fast
charred urchin
hey one of the blue images gave me an idea
granite sierra
Ok I think I got the square
plucky glacier
oh?
charred urchin
we know those blue images are in pixels correct
plucky glacier
@granite sierra the 7th one? dagaz?
plucky glacier
uh
granite sierra
It has some similarities
plucky glacier
what's that from?
charred urchin
and since we know the triangle symbol for sure we could try and reconstruct the image by placing the pixels back where they were
granite sierra
Oficial site
plucky glacier
from WT?
@charred urchin you mean making a composite image from them?
p sure somebody already did that
granite sierra
charred urchin
no i mean literally reconstructing one of the images
granite sierra
This is where glyph X is from
strong coyote
@charred urchin there's a lot that could be done if someone who knows photoshop was around. With the right layerblend settings, someone could overlay the images and eliminate the noise/boost the contrast
plucky glacier
not sure what that means
summer canopy
Surprised sean hasnt tweeted anything
plucky glacier
i don't think it's glyph x
stuck onyx
but even if we do that, we can be pretty sure of their general shape as of now already, we need way to interpret them i think
so photoshop might be nice, but not 100% needed
chrome cradle
was thinking if at some rare derelict freighters there is a door that needs you to enter some kind of sequence
granite sierra
Ok imma leave this channel for today bye
plucky glacier
we can't really be sure about any of them
stuck onyx
even if we sharpen them up a bit more, we are even more unsure of the right way to interpret them anyway
summer canopy
Sean has to give more clues
plucky glacier
all of them seem to be from different places, or have different applications
proper verge
I'm thinking, that we might need more pieces to solve this
plucky glacier
though a few are used in math or computation
summer canopy
It has to mean something
plucky glacier
two incomplete interpretations:
G, unknown, D/N, ps, unknown, unknown, d, a/ae, G, unknown
gamma, unknown, del/nabla, psi, unknown, unknown, dagaz, ansuz, gamma, unknown
stuck onyx
we dont even know if this is based on real world alphabets or a fictional one
proper verge
might just have to wait and see if HG posts anything
plucky glacier
ansuz may be incorrect, but it's the closest thing we can get
charred urchin
lol sean murray just followed hello games
plucky glacier
and it could be any alphabet, yeah
charred urchin
on twitter
plucky glacier
question is which one
deep osprey
Skop's one is closer to Egyptian scripts predating Greek by a few centuries.
stuck onyx
both norse and anglo saxon alphabets have some similarities, but then again its pretty abstract so even things like the galagtic alphabet do fit
no real way to know as of yet
deep osprey
No, not hieroglyphs.
proper verge
seems like someone just went down a list of symbols and picked randomly . . . wait
deep osprey
The last symbol is very Egyptian with that underline.
stuck onyx
i had a similar thought already, that the uneven ones seem more akin to anglosaxon/norse, while the even ones seem more "cryptic", like you said egyptian
maybe they are mixed
strong coyote
@proper verge that;s why i think they're meaningless, and is just simple substitution
strong coyote
If it is the case, then statistically the first letter would be E
stuck onyx
probably yeah
strong coyote
it's the most likely letter to be repeated
stuck onyx
would also make sense in a word, we dont really have a vowel as a second to last letter often
deep osprey
Unlikely. The repetitions of 'e' occur usually in an SOS pattern, flanking another letter.
stuck onyx
i would like to try a dictionary attack but we have very little so far and dont know any "shifts" between the letters too
strong coyote
@deep osprey assuming it's a single word
deep osprey
Precisely. If it were E it would be closer, like #1 and #3 or #4
summer canopy
We think it starts with e?
deep osprey
I'm pretty sure it does not.
strong coyote
@summer canopy nope, just more speculation
stuck onyx
is there a way to launch a specific dictionary/bruteforce where we specify the first and 9th letter are the same to significantly narrow down the possible answers?
deep osprey
I'm actually leaning towards it being a troll. It's unlikely to have a word with that many letters and just one repetition.
stuck onyx
i only know the basics
plucky glacier
somebody made a pastebin list of ~1090 10-letter words with the same 1st and 9th letters
strong coyote
The current state is that there are 10 things, 1 of them is repeated, and HG hasn't told us we're wasting our lives
stuck onyx
this, im gonna wait for some more infos aswell, thanks for the bin in the meanwhile
summer canopy
I'd be extremely dissapointed if that were the case
strong coyote
I don't think the bin is useful myself, it breaks down if it's more than one word, or if it's proper nouns
proper verge
we need more info and maybe someone to pixel shift the blue images
deep osprey
The last thing I'd do to encode a message would be using English. An extinct language is sutiable for such purpose, not a widely used one.
strong coyote
@proper verge there's definitely a scene hidden in the blue frames
I don't know image editing well enough to fix the images though
stuck onyx
but english would be the encrypted message, you would want the other side to understand it, thats why its encrypted with runes beforehand (the extinct language)
deep osprey
I'd encrypt Latin text with Japanese characters if I wanted to hide a message.
proper verge
I doubt HG would do something linguistically complex. if anything I would think it would be a more math/tech related code. like waking titan
strong coyote
@deep osprey this is an ARG. It's supposed to be fun for a few nerds, HG aren't trying to bait the CIA
The answer will be simple
deep osprey
That word list has ones with repeated letters, I'll try RegExing it to get rid of them.
strong coyote
or non existant and we're wasting out time
winged rampart
I wouldn't go as far as calling it an arg. We don't have any proof yet
strong coyote
@winged rampart I have proof.
proper verge
honestly, right now, all it says is that there is more hints to come. (or at least seems that way)
proper verge
. . .
strong coyote
π
stuck onyx
gottem
proper verge
shoot u right
plucky raft
π³
plucky glacier
a good point has been raised it seems
proper verge
doesnt the weekend/community event start this weekend. or was that just a guess ?
zenith mirage
It says Cargo lol
stuck onyx
we know
zenith mirage
It should start tomorrow
strong coyote
normally starts in a few hours, I've started the mission about around 22:00 BST before
don't know when the official start time is
azure oriole
Weekend missions start 7pm UK time
summer canopy
Maybe that could continue this "arg"
plucky glacier
that's what we think so far
deep osprey
Forget RegEx, MatLab will be faster.
proper verge
ima watch twitter and reddit for now. hope some more stuff will be posted
summer canopy
Agreed
icy torrent
^(.)(?:(?!\1).){7}\1(?:(?!\1).)$
proper verge
yes
icy torrent
Regex
strong coyote
If that works I can rerun the worldlist
final river
I just found something else, slow down the trailer and at the one minute mark purple text appears.
final river
Ok
summer canopy
Pretty interesting
strong coyote
@icy torrent no workee. I'm pretty sure you'd need to write it with backreferences as you'd need to count letters that have already gone passed the cursor
and I don't have enough headache pills to go and write a regex with backrefrerences
icy torrent
It has backreferences
It what I used to generate that list I posted on the crypto sub, I didn't check it super carefully but it did seem to work
deep osprey
All words from the file above matching the pattern:
abterminal
acrolithan
actinogram
adhesional
adjectival
adterminal
alderwoman
alpestrian
ambosexual
amphitokal
ancestrial
androecial
aneurysmal
anovesical
antebridal
antedorsal
antefurcal
anteocular
antidromal
antifeudal
aporetical
apothecial
apozemical
apterygial
archetypal
arctoidean
argumental
asteroidal
asthenical
autopsical
candlewick
candystick
chiromance
chiromancy
chromatics
cleromancy
codisjunct
colpindach
compliance
compliancy
conservacy
conspiracy
corpulency
cryogenics
czarevitch
czarowitch
emblazoner
encloister
endmatcher
equiconvex
equispaced
esonarthex
excurvated
grovelings
hangworthy
helpworthy
hexastichy
hieromachy
horsefight
infrahyoid
inspectrix
interaulic
interpubic
intrahyoid
isatogenic
isentropic
isobutyric
isodynamic
isogametic
isographic
isothermic
isovaleric
laboringly
leftwardly
leisurably
loathingly
loweringly
lukewarmly
lurchingly
nidorulent
nymphaline
obduration
obfuscator
objuration
obvelation
octahedron
oestradiol
osculation
overaction
overcustom
overshadow
overwisdom
oxycamphor
oxygenator
pelvigraph
petroglyph
pictograph
planiscope
playscript
pyelograph
radiometry
raduliform
regulatory
reichsmark
repositary
reticulary
scholarism
scrofulism
secularism
secularist
silverbush
slackerism
spermalist
sphacelism
squeakyish
stonebrash
stovebrush
strigulose
suckerfish
sulphoxism
symphonist
synarchism
synarquism
syncretism
synodalist
synorchism
temporalty
tenoplasty
thenabouts
thermality
thionurate
tourmalite
triovulate
trisulcate
tuberosity
ultrapious
umbracious
umbrageous
unboastful
uncaptious
unciferous
undextrous
undimerous
unfactious
ungraceful
ungracious
ungrateful
unmerciful
unmirthful
unperilous
unpervious
unpowerful
unprecious
unrightful
unshameful
unspiteful
unsportful
unvoiceful
unwasteful
unwatchful
unwrathful
nice
deep osprey
161 lines is not that much
stuck onyx
cant wait for the new update NMS: Pelvigraph
plucky glacier
NMS: Tuberosity
icy torrent
interpubic
cedar smelt
That screenshot that says ARG! 
cunning scroll
its definitely horsefight
stuck onyx
lets just assume one of the words in there is right for a moment, what would be the next step? wait?
deep osprey
Nice try, Interloper!
plucky glacier
wait, yes
runic python
NMS obfuscator
stuck onyx
spam sean with NMS: Spermalist tweets until he breaks i suppose
deep osprey
NMS Suckerfish
plucky glacier
don't let him pull a mcafee
stuck onyx
"look we got it done" "wow, so quickly? whats the answer?"
plucky raft
NMS: Conspiracy π³
stuck onyx
"Spermalist"
chrome cradle
Suckerfish lmao...
plucky glacier
i suppose we are suckers
summer canopy
I'm hearing the awesome space station music rn
strong coyote
I'll let y'all know if anything doesn't 404
I'm not expecting success
Also their site is slow AF
plucky glacier
what is this arcane language
deep osprey
Trying to pick some non-nonsense from the list:
Thenabouts
Radiometry
Syncretism
Thermality
Ancestrial
Archetypal
Asteroidal
Conspiracy
Cryogenics
Emblazoner
Overshadow
Oxygenator
Chromatics
Compliance
strong coyote
@plucky glacier checking nms website for the words
plucky glacier
seems about right
icy torrent
Asteroidal, problem solved
plucky glacier
cryogenics is the one
stuck onyx
chromatics could also work, since we already have chromatic moons etc
cedar smelt
Chromatica - The Lady Gaga Update
icy torrent
Chromatics would be awesome
deep osprey
Soundtrack: Beethoven's Grosse Fugue
icy torrent
It actually sounds nice
summer canopy
Chromatic metal song
icy torrent
It's no spermalist, but... still good
deep osprey
@summer canopy these are chromatic by definition
summer canopy
Yup
deep osprey
I think I like Overshadow the most.
strong coyote
"So what did you get up to today at work" "Checked the nomanssky website for the word 'spermalist' because the letter gamma appeared for 0.8 seconds in a video game trailer"
plucky glacier
very productive day it seems
icy torrent
I see nothing wrong with that personally
Still, there's gotta be other method than just bruteforcing it
strong coyote
Wait for more information. Sounds terrible to me.
junior flame
you're obviously new here
stuck onyx
shit i thought we had it
π
but yeah, sadly NMS Pelvigraph will forever just be a dream
plucky glacier
the key to this is biology class
deep osprey
Endmatcher sounds interesting as a title as well.
strong coyote
spermalist : 404
cunning scroll
it is easier to wait while dead
cedar smelt
Just by way of a heads up - if this is a puzzle and if the answer is bruteforced, the mods will likely kick that person out on their ass
icy torrent
My day is ruined
stuck onyx
pretty sure at this point that it isnt just a simple word, it would give no real information
nope, otherwise we wouldnt bruteforce
plucky glacier
this is an idea i came up with yesterday, actually
stuck onyx
some older alphabets (anglosaxon, norse) seem to be similar
plucky glacier
so what i think is that the glyphs in the sequence that have a mathematical application are part of a message
junior flame
i doubt they'd use an old alphabet for a sci-fi game
stuck onyx
could also be a fictional one, we simply dont know
summer canopy
We need youtubers to spread the word tbh
plucky glacier
dagaz is apparently used in SQL to represent a type of join
icy torrent
Is there a version of the video that doesn't have that godawful youtube compression?
junior flame
no lol
stuck onyx
check pins for a frame by farme
strong coyote
as exepected, no secret pages on the nms website using the minimised word list
proper verge
@icy torrent if you download the video. its is much better
stuck onyx
i went through them again earlier, the very last frames seem to show something glowing which has to be added extra, with the glitch layer on top
but that doesnt really help us
strong coyote
the clues in WT were mostly random strings right?
cedar smelt
Random strings normally led to paste bin or bit.ly or similar.
But they are less than 10 characters
strong coyote
how many is youtube
deep osprey
I don't really see a reason for that message to be written left to right, steps should be repeated backwards (for characters #3 and #10 instead of #1 and #8).
strong coyote
11
plucky glacier
it can be 10 or 11
cedar smelt
Yeah 11! π¦ That would have been a good shout
plucky glacier
i have a video open rn that has 10 characters
strong coyote
@deep osprey knock yourself out, I don't think it's a word myself
summer canopy
Could be a URL
junior flame
what is the sequence?
strong coyote
gotta use all your fingers @plucky glacier
junior flame
i know we've looked for words
deep osprey
I'd say it's coordinates actually because all vocabulary-related methods make no sense for that message.
plucky glacier
yeah, cause i went to chernobyl
cedar smelt
haha adam
junior flame
but what is the actual sequence?
plucky glacier
thanks shiey
here's multiple versions of the same sequence
found throughout the trailer
zenith mirage
This has to mean something
summer canopy
Yeah. They wouldn't put it there for nothing. I wonder what it is
deep osprey
It can mean someone was too lazy to draw a glyph sequence every time so they copypasted it.
plucky glacier
or it's repeated so that it's much harder to miss
zenith mirage
^
junior flame
yeah but
ok i'm convinced
like i first thought it was just
an offshoot
like we found one bit of thing
zenith mirage
May i acquire your 2Gb of news
summer canopy
That's truee
zenith mirage
Time to download the site and find some clues
cedar smelt
I dunno if more people will help at this stage - certainly if more clues come up but right now, I don't think there's anything we're not seeing/haven't tried
plucky glacier
there's plenty that we haven't tried, it's just that it probably wouldn't yield results
that and we haven't thought of it
strong coyote
We have plenty of ideas, but no way to classify them
More people will bring more ideas, but we'll still have no way to classify them
strong coyote
tbh, the weekend mission is in an hour
stuck onyx
^
strong coyote
wait and see really is the best thing right now
If there's nothing there, then baseless speculation is back on the emnu
stuck onyx
take break, get something to eat, if there is nothing in the weekend mission im firing up photoshop and try to fix the rune string for further actions
cedar smelt
good plan
strong coyote
would be worth paying attention to the HG made bases
stuck onyx
also maybe the derelict freighter interiors, which would be my other plan
junior flame
the weekend mission text was datamined so, probably nothing
icy torrent
I remember the freighter refenrece in the datamine
plucky glacier
@junior flame it was?
icy torrent
Might be worth reading again
zenith mirage
The weekend mission in an hour? like in Britain time?
stuck onyx
yea
junior flame
it's been datamined
zenith mirage
oh boy
junior flame
for months now i think
zenith mirage
oh
strong coyote
Could have changed with the update
thorn fjord
Oh internal build updated 35 minutes ago, so a small update might be being pushed live now...
which I'm guessing is for the weekend mission, but could contain stuff that they didn't want dataminers to see yesterday π
thorn fjord
yeah, they're pretty quick with fixes, so might just be that
strong coyote
Probably a fix for the free freighter upgrade bug
junior flame
yeah its not gonna be huge
stuck onyx
probably, there is no way they let a bug in that makes everyone forget about most of the update in a few minutes π
and as the second guy on the post pointed out, we dont know if its monoalphabetic or not, which makes it even harder to bruteforce
regal vine
probably fixes and flamethrower
icy torrent
Bruteforcing
icy torrent
Massive patch notes
vagrant fiber
Massive patch notes
@icy torrent where?
summer canopy
Ooohhh
icy torrent
summer canopy
Let's see if theres any stuff related to the glyphs
icy torrent
Fixed an issue that allowed players to summon the Space Anomaly on top of a derelict freighter.
That just hilarious
strong coyote
"Fixed an issue that allowed multiple uses of the Cargo Bulkhead upgrade module."
better not quit my game yet, I'm freighter hunting
chrome cradle
oh well it was fun lmao
chrome cradle
at least i managed to get an S class and maxed it for basically free
stuck onyx
maxed tech slots, then stopped with the cargo when i realized that with the 10 containers available directly aswell now, it wont make a difference anyway
stuck onyx
same, got a venator a few updates back that looks awesome, but is stuck on A-Class
not that it matters much, since i warp by ship anyway most of the time
strong coyote
imagine a crazy world where the ship's scanner array would let you... scan things
stuck onyx
the price we had to pay to make pseudo-uses for the exocrafts, sadly
getting to photoshop now btw, expect something cleaner in the next hour depending on progress
twin token
This is getting of topic?
stuck onyx
soleth im working on the cleaner rune scan right now, if that helps your efforts a bit
vagrant fiber
some of the glyphs are mathematical symbols.
steady torrent
for those that missed it earlier: #glyph-investigation message
twin token
@stuck onyx thanks SO much!
stuck onyx
we dont know yet
summer canopy
Yeah we dont know
final halo
If the glyphs mean 'Desolation'
Then uh....We know a glyph for every letter present in the word 'desolation'
Some say I am the socrates of the modern age
but yeah if that's actually what the case is then we're probably getting another puzzle in the future
cunning scroll
but we only see these glyphs on the background of the opening and then other blue screens...in my opinion i feel like if this was DESOLATION then we would see them across other glitchy parts of the video.
steady torrent
Let's remember just how brief these glitch transitions are to begin with and that they're more for the aesthetic of exploring a spooky abandoned freighter over much else
misty storm
Its gonna be pretty sad if it ends up being "DESOLATION" or something as a hint to the update title
icy torrent
I'd be desolated if that turned out to be the case
steady torrent
lol
civic basin
it's not desolation,
what it is, is "artist fired up windings to put an effect in the video"
misty storm
I would also be No Man's Sky: Desolated
stuck onyx
can only be desolation if we are saying its done with a non-monoalphabetic encryption
summer canopy
Doubt it but what if its WT related? prob not
steady torrent
i just feel like if they were going to hide something in there like glyphs it would be glyphs we know
stuck onyx
which we suppose isnt the case because that would be unbreakable with the current info we have
past garnet
Unless one artist did it for fun and no one else saw it, I doubt that itβs just desolation
steady torrent
it's not a direct translation because they aren't necessarily glyphs at all but distortion artifacting
thorn fjord
Yeah, I think we've done all we can with the glyphs for now, if they're actually something then we require more information - which we don't have right now
summer canopy
Agreed
placid mango
Welcome back to another episode of WAITING TITAN
thorn fjord
π
summer canopy
π€£
icy torrent
The last glyph is so weird
The others are bottom-aligned, but that one is just kinda floating
Like SEANMURRAΚΈ
summer canopy
Sean
misty storm
It could just be because the video is kinda not great
summer canopy
I'm subscribed to wt on YouTube just in case
misty storm
I'm sure it won't connect to WT at all
steady torrent
I'll connect u to WT @misty storm
misty storm
Pls don't π³
summer canopy
π³
sick forge
@misty storm uwwu
stuck onyx
this is the best i could do for now, the quality on youtube isnt really helping... Also i wasnt able to fully fix the fragmentations because it happens vertically aswell as horizontally, so no sure way to know what belongs where
also things like the 5th rune are up for debate, since i dont know if the longer line belongs at its base
but tbh, im out for now, wont really be able to clearly make them out unless you know how to defrag something, which i (clearly) dont
summer canopy
fyi, the https://forums.atlas-65.com/ site is up
vapid vigil
jesus fish
floral plaza
the etarc community has been up for a long while, it's just a forum about NMS now
anyway are we sure those letters aren't just greek
first one is just gamma, second one is a lowercase alpha, third one is delta
plucky glacier
#7 is from old english, dagaz
plucky glacier
it does
somebody said it looks like glyph x which is true, but i don't see the connection
stuck onyx
glyph x confrmed = new parallel universe, get on the hype train
it kinda does look like it, but just because glyph x is a literal box
plucky glacier
that's the only similarity, yeah
stuck onyx
the 4th one could be an epsilon rolled to the side
but thats a very long shot in the dark
tranquil tulip
https://discordapp.com/channels/146101654981312513/345378190568587275/733456895658033154 this may help yall idk
plucky glacier
bruh
tranquil tulip
Moment
stuck onyx
yeah i used it for my "inspection" aswell, but it still doesnt help to figure out the washed up runes
stuck onyx
have a nice one then
charred urchin
@summer canopy how long has the website been up?
floral plaza
hey by the way, if you all make any progress or interesting stuff, you can ping me or @misty storm to have us pin stuff. just a heads up if this discussion keeps going
summer canopy
Maybe the whole time but I think it's just a discussion board now
charred urchin
@stuck onyx dud that is awesome great job on the symbols
summer canopy
Imagine getting an email from old gods. That's like heart attack material
floral plaza
it was part of waking titan a few years ago, but now it's literally just a forum, yes.
ETARC's existence is absolutely not any confirmation of arg-y things
placid mango
Yeah
stuck onyx
honestly wish i could have done more, feels lackluster from my side
lets hope we get it eventually
charred urchin
I agree with @stuck onyx's model except number 2 i feel like we don't have a clear enough picture to confirm it
stuck onyx
yeah number 2 is tricky
placid mango
@stuck onyx itβs fine. I felt like that during wt
floral plaza
i really don't think there's anything to find here tbh, wayyyy to little imo to go on
placid mango
Ok guys if Orbit makes a video on this then itβs like the good ol days
floral plaza
but it's really bizarre that the glyphs look so well-planned
charred urchin
it was a lot of fun @summer canopy
summer canopy
Guess well will find out
placid mango
I guess all we can do now is wait
stuck onyx
dont think we are gonna progress much further with just this aswell
charred urchin
I feel like this is just initiation right!
like hello games has now gotten our attention
placid mango
Waiting titan intensifies
stuck onyx
but then again, ive been looking at the frames of the video too much and now i start to see thing in the chopped up mess
placid mango
I guess we wait
summer canopy
Why isnt there an emily emoji lol
placid mango
Idk
charred urchin
so like half-ded
placid mango
Yes
charred urchin
got it
summer canopy
E m I l y l I v e s
sick forge
Time to unarchive waking titan chat?
stuck onyx
is this just me or does this look like an interloper from behind? on the same frame as the CEN, slide also repeats throughout the video
charred urchin
could be but's hard to tell
icy torrent
looks like microscopic algae to me
charred urchin
I've been thinking of a theory recently. What if Emily didn't wake by herself but instead has been awoken by someone and that's why these glitches are appearing throughout NMS. And using the black image with all the symbols and equations someone figured it out and is trying to cover their tracks.
placid mango
That would make sense
charred urchin
because emily sacrificed herself in the end. I see no reason for her to wake up willingly
summer canopy
Her last words were "I guess this is goodbye"
stuck onyx
im just paranoid about hidden screens because the very last flicker seems to contain something clearly inserted behind the glitch overlay which very much looks like NMS, kinda like glowing asteroids
and IIRC theyve done this before
asteroids also became deterministic in this update
stuck onyx
so maybe asteroid walking soon? tinfoil hat on
placid mango
Indeed it does
plucky glacier
did weekend mission, nothing of significance
cedar smelt
π’
twin token
@stuck onyx are you sure this isnt the new scanner in the derelict? I saw that image after the trailer and it clicked that that's what this is.
Although I'll be honest all the colourful static seems odd for a derelict video
@charred urchin emily is alive. She just lost most of her abilities and hibernated
this is the best i could do for now, the quality on youtube isnt really helping... Also i wasnt able to fully fix the fragmentations because it happens vertically aswell as horizontally, so no sure way to know what belongs where
@stuck onyx
Can we pin the image below this text by paraMo?
charred urchin
this image?
twin token
Credit goes to paramo
placid mango
Ok
@stuck onyx has figured out some of the glitched symbols from the trailer and made them clear
placid mango
<@373850072083070977> has figured out some of the glitched symbols from the trai...
Please correct me if Iβm wrong
Also the weird corner symbol looks like galactic standard English
plucky glacier
which one
charred urchin
was looking at SchrΓΆdinger's comment i don't think it's desolation mainly because of the two recurring "upside down L"
plucky glacier
#8?
charred urchin
I think he means #1 and #9
plucky glacier
oh
charred urchin
normally if the community is onto something that is wrong or false doesn't HG tell us pretty quickly
charred urchin
well we haven't heard anything from them so maybe we're doing the right thing
I do know they watch the discord
sean even tweeted about it once a long time ago
summer canopy
I guess we are on the right track?
placid mango
I think we are
hybrid moat
Yep
karmic valve
thats just desolation
charred urchin
pinned message
charred urchin
i don't think this correct
karmic valve
the glyphgs are far more pronounced
steady torrent
unless this is leading into another ARG, why use yet another set of glyphs
charred urchin
reasoning is the first symbol also happens to be the #8 symbol as well which would mean that the word DESOLATION would not fit into the array of symbols
steady torrent
wouldn't a better easter egg use existing portal glyphs to lead us to a particular derelict freighter as a jumping off point to further whatever arg
It doesn't fit into the array because they may be heavily distorted artifacts
charred urchin
but im saying symbol #1 and symbol #8 are the same which means the word "desolation" doesn't work even if they are coded
summer canopy
this is the start of something
karmic valve
its 1 and 9
charred urchin
^
steady torrent
if they aren't symbols it doesn't have to directly correspond
karmic valve
but interesting
charred urchin
during the summer didn't hello games wait till Friday or was it Saturday to kick things off for the arg?
turbid cobalt
The glyphs are far too pronounced to be DESOLATION
while some of the letters match up, others are waaaay off
summer canopy
didnt WT start in June of 2017?
turbid cobalt
Like the sideways hourglass or the <<
karmic valve
^
charred urchin
I'm pretty sure it was late May if I remember correctly
lament matrix
Someone should send that pic to Sean on Twitter and ask if we are on the right track. Probably will ignore us but you never know.
turbid cobalt
I donβt remember much about WT
I didnβt ever participate in it just kinda watched from the sidelines
stuck onyx
dont think its desolation because it gets its extra fade in at the end which yu dont have to go frame by frame and it appears only once, but then again we dont know if the runes even lead to a message anyway
right now i think its waiting time, unless someone figures out something else
did take another look the the "CE" but there isnt something outstanding to it
(also thanks for the pin, glad to be of some sort of help 
)
steady torrent
@lament matrix I already sent them my overlaid pic and yeah they just ignored it, lol
twin token
Awesome work paraMo! Definelty hope we are on the right track. No one else seems to be working on this. Ask Gothalion to tweet this at sean. Sean's been replying to him a lot. What about the guy who DM'd sean?
SPAM AT SEAN
Lol
Only thing abt CEN I found is that it's a fine in the Anglo Saxon alphabet
Assuming that it IS CEN
Is it just me or is sean too enthusiastic about trailers
placid mango
I donβt care. The trailers are epic