#glyph-investigation

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twin token
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Awesome!

turbid cobalt
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second

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lol

lyric karma
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oh lord xD

granite sierra
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Nice

turbid cobalt
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s n e k n c n o n d

twin token
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Can this become the general theories channel after this investigation us done?

lyric karma
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eh, maybe

granite sierra
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Ok what more have you found?

lyric karma
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this channel is temporary until such a time as we think it should be permanent

twin token
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Ok

lyric karma
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and if things go nuclear, we can always pull the old WT channel out of the archive

twin token
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Maybe after wards have a poll asking if it should become a theories channel and conspiracy stuff?

lyric karma
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👍

chrome cradle
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you take the pill, youre not supposed to talk to it.

turbid cobalt
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confused stonks

lyric karma
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oh, and let me cover my own ass here

thorn fjord
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👀

turbid cobalt
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hmm

twin token
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💀

turbid cobalt
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ass covering begins

twin token
lyric karma
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MOD NOTE: This channel is automatically SPOILER ORIENTED. As such, if you do not want potential NMS spoilers, don't go here c:

turbid cobalt
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S C H R O D I N G E S F O O L I S T Y P I N G

lyric karma
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just trying to avoid new users ranting at me about spoilers 😛

twin token
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Yup

turbid cobalt
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ah makes sense

twin token
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Good idea

turbid cobalt
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always happens

twin token
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Looked at the in game derelict for clues. Nothing

bright tendon
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Good morning everyone! So.. i see this is getting serious.. Did we rule out the chance the glyphs is just gibberish?

twin token
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I guess so

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Yup

turbid cobalt
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to some extent

twin token
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Besides we having fun

turbid cobalt
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we believe its not a word, but a cipher and/or a URL

lyric karma
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since I got off work two hours ago, and love me a good ARG, I'm assuming the glyphs are a lead until proven otherwise

twin token
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Perhaps

turbid cobalt
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We've mostly ruled out the possibility of it being a word

twin token
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Really?

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I missed that part

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It might be different languages

turbid cobalt
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The only way it could be one is if we've majorly fucked up so far, but theres a good chance we have

twin token
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All molded into 1

turbid cobalt
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That seems to be a case

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Cause the first and 9th symbols are more similar to a Pigpen I then a Greek G

twin token
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Because it has both greek letters, elder furthark and maybe some hebrew

granite sierra
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Just resending the image

turbid cobalt
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Weve found alot of potential languages

lyric karma
limpid stag
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I don't think it has greek in it

thorn fjord
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OK, I've just extracted every image from the video

twin token
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Letter 1 looks greek

turbid cobalt
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Greek, Cyrillic, Durvak Runes, Pigpen Cipher, Hebrew, and others are what weve gad so far

twin token
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@thorn fjord dude awesome wirk

thorn fjord
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like, every frame

granite sierra
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First letter looks like galactic alphabet

turbid cobalt
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LEtter 1 is more likely Pigpen

lyric karma
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holy crap Codex that's dedication xD

granite sierra
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It's not cyrilic

twin token
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Yup

lyric karma
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phoenician maybe?

turbid cobalt
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First letter is almost certainly a Pigpen I

granite sierra
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Maybe

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It seems like the first letter is galactic alphabet

turbid cobalt
bright tendon
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I've been thinking if the glyphs are originated from series like Dark or Black Mirror (highly unlikely though right?). I mean i've been thinking since yesterday all possibilities. This is one of my wildest. Because the whole void thing reminded me of Dark. But yeah.. Just saying this in case someone find this useful

turbid cobalt
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Put the letter I into there

thorn fjord
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I found a tool to do it, wasn't going to do it manually, heh

turbid cobalt
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you get the first symbol

cedar smelt
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👁️ WT Dat You? 👀

thorn fjord
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it me!

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brb, I have a meeting 😫

turbid cobalt
thorn fjord
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then I'll consolidate all we found last night

granite sierra
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Ok

twin token
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Oh wow

lyric karma
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I've been informed by fellow mods that calling it WT might cause unnecessary hype, so I've been avoiding it lol

twin token
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@turbid cobalt amazing!

limpid stag
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What is WT?

twin token
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@lyric karma yea probs avoid that

cedar smelt
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Haha, nah we know for sure that's hit on the head anyway right?

granite sierra
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Try other letters

lyric karma
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yea, I believe Anashel said at the conclusion of Waking Titan Season 2 that that was the end of their involvement with it

turbid cobalt
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theres a CHANCE that the <'s are pigpen U's, but its unlikely as << would be UU

cedar smelt
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Yeah 100%! Doesn't make it any less exciting though!! Hype. And puzzles

lyric karma
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that's not to say that HG can't continue the lore there

chrome cradle
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someone said there is a dot between the second <

lyric karma
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but I'm always amped for a good puzzle and cryptic stuff c:

turbid cobalt
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@chrome cradle There is? good to know

thorn fjord
turbid cobalt
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pigpen uses dots alot

granite sierra
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Hmmm

twin token
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Of it's a pigpen cypher then the first one is I

lyric karma
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don't take anything as fact until we have clearer imagery 😛

twin token
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The second glyph could he 2 U's but that seems unlikely

granite sierra
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Ok that's not it

chrome cradle
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i dont think so either

turbid cobalt
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If theres a dot in the second < then its IUY

granite sierra
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Try numbers

twin token
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Yea thought were on to something

turbid cobalt
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I doubt its a Gamma symbol

icy torrent
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But is it this cipher? What about last symbol?

lyric karma
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I mean, we're tearing apart single frames of a video, feel free to follow whatever feels like a lead @twin token c:

turbid cobalt
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as the lines in gamma arent equal link

twin token
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Yup

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I am

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Right now let's list down possible languages

granite sierra
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I'll be right back

turbid cobalt
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Im on the side of letters 1 and 9 are pigpen i's

twin token
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Then its 2 I's

turbid cobalt
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Is there a way we could get an !glyphs command that'd show the image of the glyphs?

lyric karma
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as far as I'm aware, those are the only repeating characters, right?

twin token
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Yes

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@turbid cobalt good idea but that could be abused badly

lyric karma
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@turbid cobalt I'd have to cook up an alias, and I don't even know if Gunter can see this channel

turbid cobalt
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true

lyric karma
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...only one way to find out though

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!hypetrain

forest quail
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Oooooo we have our own channel now!? Thanks @lyric karma

lyric karma
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yea nope he can't interact with this channel

turbid cobalt
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The hype train has wrecked

cedar smelt
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Damn why I gotta be working! 😦 Got a meeting at 10 and then I can try to help, if its not solved by then 😅

granite sierra
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Now it's hype freighter

turbid cobalt
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Many are injured in the Hype train crash

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Its a terrifying scene

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And i'm to lazy to continue writing this fake news article about a hype train wreck

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Letters 1 and 9 are the only repeating ones

twin token
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Glyph 2 (《)

granite sierra
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ok there are 2 main possibilitie and those are: 1. its just a joke and HG is testing us out and 2. that HG had put there something that nobody is suposed to see and its secret

twin token
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Is used as speech Mark's in some langauges

granite sierra
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I’m going to bed hopefully it’s solved by the time I wake up
@icy torrent probably not

cedar smelt
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Nothing secret is every put anywhere that nobody is supposed to see - that much is for sure haha

lyric karma
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lemme see if this worked

steel sapphire
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heya Matthew

lyric karma
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!hypefleet

turbid cobalt
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odds are this isnt a joke

chrome cradle
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and i doubt it's a joke either

cedar smelt
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Whale 🐳 ❤️

turbid cobalt
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HG knows us

lyric karma
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DAGUMMIT

twin token
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O doubt it's a joke

turbid cobalt
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ANGRY GRAH

chrome cradle
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have some grahberry, you are not yourself when you're hungry

turbid cobalt
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@icy torrent oh god

granite sierra
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wait a sec i will bring here somebody who can help us

turbid cobalt
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BRING THEM

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WE MUST S U M M O N THEM

granite sierra
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but i need to pray he is online

turbid cobalt
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I have a freind whos good with decoding but he sleep right now

granite sierra
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shit he is offline

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he is asleep

twin token
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We need to remember CEN or CEM as well

turbid cobalt
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Has the update been Datamined for anything? Also can someone post the CEM image?

granite sierra
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had somebody looked if its not and galactic alphabet

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go look

turbid cobalt
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i heavily doubt its galactic alphabet

lyric karma
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@cedar smelt do you remember how to get Gunter to see commands in new channels? I'm totally drawing a blank on it

turbid cobalt
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ive used enough enchanting tables to know what galactic alpabet looks like

lyric karma
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and everyone's offline except meeeeee x.x

granite sierra
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these are the letters: ᔑ ʖ ᓵ↸ᒷ⎓⊣⍑╎⋮ꖌꖎᒲリ𝙹!¡∷ᓭℸ ̣ ⚍⍊∴ ̇/||⨅

turbid cobalt
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HOWEVER

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Soem of the symbols could be

cedar smelt
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@lyric karma Haha ❤️ Does he have perms in here? I think he has his own rank right? Just need to make sure he has access to everything in here

turbid cobalt
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we are pretty sure its a mashup of languages

lyric karma
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yea I've set his perms so he can read and write messages but can't get him to fire a message in here xD

cedar smelt
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Ew

lyric karma
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maybe I have to restart him

turbid cobalt
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that sounds... odd

cedar smelt
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Does he need manage messages to?

granite sierra
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am i really the only one who doesnt have any role XD

lyric karma
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oh he might need that

icy torrent
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You will get them soon friend, at some point

cedar smelt
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Loads of works using I as first and 9th letter, out of 10.
Most fitting one is probably something like Idealistic

chrome cradle
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doesnt ring any bell

granite sierra
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hmmm

cedar smelt
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Actually Idealistic doesn't work cause that has three I's 🙃

chrome cradle
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i have no role either

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:v

granite sierra
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i havent noticed

lyric karma
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!hypetrain

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...goddamnit

turbid cobalt
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DAMN YOU GUNTER

granite sierra
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i would say hype freighter

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thats better fitting

cedar smelt
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@vague obsidian

icy torrent
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I wonder what’s stolen Gunter’s beak... oh god oh fuck

lyric karma
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@vague obsidian say I like glyphs

cedar smelt
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In The Air would also fit

turbid cobalt
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...

granite sierra
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maybe

cedar smelt
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I'm just stabbing with no real education behind it except the two I's so probably not even close

lyric karma
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okay thank god those still work

cedar smelt
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@lyric karma You could try syncing this channels perms with the category. If that's set up right it should do the job, but that relies heavily on it being set up right haha

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Interchain Internship Intervisit

lyric karma
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I know it's set right, but Gunter's a bit rogue compared to the other bots

cedar smelt
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Intervisit = Aliens coming. K I'll stop now lol

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Can't be intervisit, repeated T

lyric karma
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we need a specific word, assuming the 1 and 9 symbols are "i", that has no other repeating characters

granite sierra
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ill try

cedar smelt
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Yeah there's a few of those... Interchain Internship

granite sierra
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but i must be last

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hmm

cedar smelt
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10 glyphs?

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1 and 9 repeat

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Assuming they are I's..

granite sierra
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ok sorry i saw only 9

cedar smelt
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don't apologise! we got this

lyric karma
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I wonder

chrome cradle
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interloper

lyric karma
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what if this is two ciphers?

chrome cradle
granite sierra
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maybe

cedar smelt
lyric karma
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pigpen for the start, and a Caesarian Shift for the alpha?

granite sierra
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hmmm

turbid cobalt
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back

lyric karma
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if that's the case, it's possible the repeated glyphs could be any vowel

turbid cobalt
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did we get the dum dum bot working?

lyric karma
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as vowels most often repeat

cedar smelt
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But, it could be a completely random series of letters to create a bit.ly link or similar. Assuming that this is going to actually lead us anywhere...

thorn fjord
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this standup meeting I'm in doesn't seem to end, work should know I have more important things to be getting on with 😏

cedar smelt
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Haha @thorn fjord I have a meeting in 10 😩 Hopefully not lasting too long

lyric karma
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oh wait Codex is former staff, @thorn fjord do you remember how to get Gunter functional in a new channel?

cedar smelt
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Haha my pin doesn't play ball either

lyric karma
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I'm getting REALLY tempted to just restart him

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but I don't want to break logs

granite sierra
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in the air is the most plausible

thorn fjord
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afraid not @lyric karma, not a clue

lyric karma
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craaaaaaaaap

chrome cradle
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in the air

cedar smelt
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In The Air makes sense - but it doesn't take us anywhere. Unless it really is just a tiny little puzzle for fun.
Otherwise we should expect it to take us somewhere like a website

granite sierra
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hmm

chrome cradle
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that is a very anticlimactic word for an update title

cedar smelt
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That's assuming it's a update title

chrome cradle
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assuming it is

granite sierra
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Isentropic?

cedar smelt
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Could be!

granite sierra
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omg what about Isomorphic

lyric karma
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I actually REALLY like isentropic as an idea

chrome cradle
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isomorphic needs 2 repeating symbols

lyric karma
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because entropy is a great rabbit hole

cedar smelt
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Can't be isomorphic this ^ lol

granite sierra
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ok

cedar smelt
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Only letter that can repeat in theory is I

granite sierra
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but isentropic is interesting

chrome cradle
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i have not a single clue what that word means

turbid cobalt
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hmmst

chrome cradle
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i just get more confused after looking at dictionary

granite sierra
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i will look for some ancient languages

turbid cobalt
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someone mentioned nordic a while ago

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check that

granite sierra
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will

chrome cradle
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i did, but not all of them matches nordic runes

granite sierra
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10 oldest languages still spoken these days hmm

chrome cradle
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not the ones ive seen so far anyway

turbid cobalt
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did any of them match?

granite sierra
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idk

chrome cradle
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the sideways hourglass is one

granite sierra
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iam looking

turbid cobalt
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wait what

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SELFISH DO YOU REALISE WHAT YOUVE DONE

chrome cradle
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it is s

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letter s

granite sierra
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hebrew?

turbid cobalt
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A A A A A A

chrome cradle
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with ' on top

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`

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whatever that is

turbid cobalt
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Ok then im gonna go with its multiple languages mashed together then

chrome cradle
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idk i have no idea about solving these things, i just saw some of you got excited over at nms spoiler then decided to board the train

twin token
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@granite sierra lder futhark is close

chrome cradle
bright tendon
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isentropic is a greek word (Ισοτροπικός) which means uniformity in all directions

cedar smelt
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be back soon

granite sierra
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@granite sierra lder futhark is close
@twin token oh yes

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it is

twin token
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Try elder futhark

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And some runes

granite sierra
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ok

twin token
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I'm gonna search for other glyphic languages

steady torrent
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guys, you're gonna hate this but...

granite sierra
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it looks like it

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oh

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ok

proper verge
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oh

granite sierra
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its the same

proper verge
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oooooh

steady torrent
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🤐

twin token
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What

cedar smelt
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💀 lolling

twin token
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Glyphs dont match

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1st is d

steady torrent
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i took shots of each frame up to the reveal of Desolation and then overlaid them and adjusted the opacity

granite sierra
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i searched runes and first thing was runescape

twin token
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But d isnt repeated

chrome cradle
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desolatidn

cedar smelt
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It could just be artistic flair

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Seriously brb though lol

steady torrent
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The distortion makes it impossible to make out the word up to the end, until then the distortion is removed and the word is made clear

twin token
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Most of the static and the the reveal is in the same spot tho

granite sierra
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cant mach any runes with this

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only some

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nothing

twin token
granite sierra
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oh yes

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it is

twin token
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Maybe try this?

granite sierra
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but cant find <<

twin token
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Yea

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Its a quotation mark in amny languages

lyric karma
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@steady torrent really hoping you're wrong this time, but damn if that isn't pretty convincing

granite sierra
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oh

twin token
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He said 《This is how its used》

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Similar

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But not the same tho

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@lyric karma but gaian glyphs dont match up

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I really hope its something

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Or ill feel like an idiot for getting this hyped up

granite sierra
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dont feel like idiot im hyped too

chrome cradle
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maybe the real answer is the friendship we make along the way

granite sierra
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maybe

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and friendships we made finding out

twin token
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@chrome cradle the real glyphs were the friend we made along the way

granite sierra
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it also matches

chrome cradle
twin token
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@granite sierra what does?

granite sierra
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friendship with number of letters

chrome cradle
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:v

granite sierra
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if we dont find out what it is at least we will have ne friends

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could it be egyptian?

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no

willow sun
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Why would hg use Egyptian

granite sierra
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i have something

stuck onyx
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if this is just a transpositional chiffre, we could go at it by either brute force or a dictionary attack

granite sierra
willow sun
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Has there been any references in the game or through arg to real world places

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My guess is the languages will be from England

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Since that’s where hg is based

stuck onyx
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the encrypted one will be english yes

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you mean celtic?

willow sun
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Or European

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Celtic isn’t glyphic

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Plus the code could lead to a different code

granite sierra
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hmm it isnt cyrilic

thorn fjord
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the last 4 seconds of the video is just black with a sound, has anyone analysed that yet?

granite sierra
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hmm

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ill look in audacity

willow sun
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Spectrogram is probs too easy

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Hmm it is quite strange it didn’t end like all the other update trailers

granite sierra
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im downloading audacity

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where did you got audio from the trailer?

thorn fjord
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let me see if I can extract for you

granite sierra
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ok thx

lyric karma
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lol I think that warping below the DESOLATION bit is the video editor throwing the NO SIGNAL at us again

granite sierra
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oh no

chrome cradle
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that's some found footage shit.

granite sierra
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Hmm it is quite strange it didn’t end like all the other update trailers
@willow sun you are right this is strange shit

chrome cradle
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how do other update trailer end?

willow sun
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I need to hop on and make sure there aren’t clues aboard derelicts

thorn fjord
stuck onyx
granite sierra
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hmm

thorn fjord
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spotted last night, not sure if it's anything 🤔

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shows in 2 frames I think

chrome cradle
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dont think ive seen any random symbols on derelict

lyric karma
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I mean, there's more than just CEN

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in that frame

granite sierra
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@thorn fjord ok thx

stuck onyx
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think its just in the "glitch" overlay they used multiple times, spotted it 2-3 times aswell

willow sun
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Usually updates end with the atlas over a valley

lyric karma
thorn fjord
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oh yeah

chrome cradle
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that's Sean laughing at us.

lyric karma
chrome cradle
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Sean i'll give you a kiss if you give us a clue

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i know you read this

willow sun
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Anagram

chrome cradle
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answer meeee

granite sierra
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@thorn fjord are you able to send it in WAV or AIFF?

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audacity cant open it

thorn fjord
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uhh 2 minutes

willow sun
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Sorry not on pc

granite sierra
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ok

willow sun
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Where did in the rain come from

karmic valve
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Boys the fucking 4 chan leak is right

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Like

willow sun
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How

karmic valve
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This is an in game arg

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We've literally got that now

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This was combat relatee

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We have all that

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It got cross play right

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It got the weekly missions right

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I'm just saying it's ticking off the boxes for it so far

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August update looks evej more likely

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Cause Sean said

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More significant updates planned for this year in the desolation notes

willow sun
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Sean did tweet a meme about a big summer update

granite sierra
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really?

willow sun
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Yh like a day or two before the skull

karmic valve
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I reckon we will get something in the weekly missions today

willow sun
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Rey Reynolds

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What exactly has happened so far in the weekend missions

lyric karma
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approx 1:05 of video, this is part of our glyph string, correct?

chrome cradle
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new mission types

willow sun
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Yh

chrome cradle
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yes that's part of it

willow sun
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The end of it

lyric karma
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the sideways hourglass being the most prevalent there

chrome cradle
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symbol 6-8

willow sun
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There is a dot below

thorn fjord
willow sun
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Hourglass

granite sierra
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thx

chrome cradle
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and the sideways hourglass is letter s with ` in nordic rune, but that one does not have a dot

lyric karma
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oh boy, here we go with the spectro c:

willow sun
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I think people have done it but no results

granite sierra
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tell me on what second i need to look

willow sun
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The original vid only had 2

steady torrent
granite sierra
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ok

willow sun
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1:05

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Nvm

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Check 1:03 and 1:05

steady torrent
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Part of the distortion effect is to warp and shift the contents of the frames, which is why you see the "desolatidn"

chrome cradle
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pffff

granite sierra
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no theres nothing there

willow sun
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Thought so

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Maybe overlay and alter opacity

stuck onyx
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around 1:05 there is a frame where in the very bottom center seems to be another block of either ciphers or plaintext, but i cant get the yt bar away (ree)

chrome cradle
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nu mahnss ske : desolatidn

steady torrent
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So No Man's Sky and Desolation appear distorted & shifted right to the point of illegibility until finally they're revealed as such

lyric karma
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yea that's what I'm seeing :/

steady torrent
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That is, clarified & shifted back to the left

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Should also mention shifted vertically apparently as part of the distortion effect

willow sun
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Are there any decals in game that look like these letters

granite sierra
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no

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at least i dont know about them

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ok i need to go bye

willow sun
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Cya

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How long is a portal address

chrome cradle
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16 symbols

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we ruled out portal address earlier

strong coyote
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the deep blue frames are all of the same scene, distored

willow sun
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There are 16 glyphs but how many in a dress

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Address

strong coyote
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keep an eye on the left side - they all have a yellow splotch in about the same place

chrome cradle
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there is 16 glyph in an address

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that's what i said

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um

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12

icy torrent
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There are 12

chrome cradle
#

sorry

willow sun
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Yh

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Only 10 characters

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Nvm

strong coyote
willow sun
#

This has to be a clue no way they left that in the centre

strong coyote
#

I'm wondering if the glyphs isn't the only thing in the static frames

forest quail
#

It’s not

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The ending two seconds of the trailer (the original static) contains what looks like multiple scenes from a future trailer

strong coyote
#

the distortion is mostly horizontal, which isn't too tricky for someone to straighten up if they know how to work photoshop

chrome cradle
#

it can also look like the scenes from the promotional video before the game was released

willow sun
#

Yh

steady torrent
willow sun
#

Has anybody translated the glyphs yet

forest quail
#

nope

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we trying though

willow sun
#

Where did in the rain come from

steady torrent
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||the glyphs are desolation 🤐 ||

granite sierra
#

No

willow sun
#

I hope not

granite sierra
#

Also I'm back

willow sun
#

Nice

stuck onyx
#

cant be, first and last cipher are the same

granite sierra
#

The friend just asked what is going on add is offline again

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Fuck him

willow sun
#

Who did

granite sierra
#

Ok he said he'll look on it

thorn fjord
#

I did

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that was a guess

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here are the HQ originals

cedar smelt
#

I'm back! So we still think there's something in this, or resolved to the fact it's just "Desolation"?

granite sierra
#

What about Aztec language?

thorn fjord
#

NO MATTHEW, IT CAN'T BE 😭

forest quail
#

why would it just say "desolation" again?

stuck onyx
#

how is this supposed to be desolation if the characters dont match?

willow sun
#

D is repeated twice

granite sierra
#

No its not aztec

lyric karma
#

the idea behind Desolation would be that it's warped to the point of LOOKING like glyphs

cedar smelt
#

Well I'd argue how is it supposed to be anything? It could just be artistic fuckery from someone in the trailer department who thought some random glyphs would look cool before writing "Desolation"

thorn fjord
#

hah, possibly. I just hope it's something

cedar smelt
#

Me too!

forest quail
#

honestly, doesn't make a whole lot of sense that desolation would warp into very clean, sharp glyph shapes if it was distorted

thorn fjord
#

Wouldn't be surprised if it went in-game in some way, with the weekend events

stuck onyx
#

did a similar shot appear anywhere in the trailer? its surprisingly clear for it to appear in the static (although it doesnt really help with anything right now)

thorn fjord
#

are there any specific frames anyone wanted to look at? I have them all here

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without the damn youtube bar 😛

cedar smelt
#

Just seems too coinsidental there's 10 glyphs, 10 letters in Desolation and they morph into one another. I hope I'm wrong though 😄

willow sun
#

@thorn fjord could you tell me what has happened so far in the weekend missions

thorn fjord
#

@willow sun I've missed the last few, so I'm out of the loop >.<

granite sierra
#

I heard of some sweetroot collecting.

willow sun
#

But what about story wise and Ariadne

granite sierra
#

Idk

thorn fjord
willow sun
#

That’s probs cleanest

granite sierra
#

I don't think so

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The pinned is cleaner

willow sun
lyric karma
#

the pinned one is also drawn on to outline shapes

granite sierra
#

Yes

thorn fjord
#

Pinned is my interpretation, the second for example might be completly wrong

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in that blue shot I posted above it looks more like a loop

granite sierra
#

Well yes

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I'll be right back

steady torrent
#

tbh i don't think they're meant to be glyphs at all. just heavy distortion artifacts from lossy signal until signal is boosted enough at end to deliver the message that this is...No Man's Sky: Desolation

forest quail
#

such a big effort for such a small thing though

steady torrent
#

part of the artsy fartsy fun of spooooky trailer and all

forest quail
#

unless you were, say, looking for secrets, you would never ever see these glyphs

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It doesn't add to the casual trailer viewing experience, unless you are looking for hidden clues

willow sun
#

Yo has Sean ever tweeted something in a different language

lyric karma
#

if you stare at this part of the spectrogram long enough, it's the Hello Games logo face lol

forest quail
#

hahahaha

chrome cradle
#

or a santa claus

cedar smelt
#

Haha fluffy you're going cray

lyric karma
#

note: absolutely sarcasm, I just miss tearing the spectros apart on the tapes

thorn fjord
#

😆

steady torrent
#

imo it would only add much for secret hunters if it actually turned out to be portal glyphs to some funky system with a cool derelict freighter or something, but these don't resemble those at all

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aeyes aeyes2 my connection is being mischievous today

forest quail
#

I think we are trying to solve a puzzle that we don't have all the parts of yet

steady torrent
#

i've come too close to the truth folks

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the atlas is trying to--

lyric karma
#

I think this was always grasping at straws, but we want something to do in the wee hours of the morning

forest quail
#

yeah, it has been pretty fun

lyric karma
#

plus it's a spooky update anyway so we might've expected something to be there 😛

forest quail
#

I still have the feeling at the back of my head that hiding these glyphs seems like a lot of work for something that equals to nothing

strong coyote
#

HG know they have a fan base that latch on to the smallest detail like Charlie looking for pepe silvia. They've embedded codes in videos countless times before.
It'd be a dick move to say the least for them to just randomly embed a string of symbols for no reason.

cedar smelt
#

Artists like to have fun though too - if you ever watch the title credits of a show like American Horror Story it's littered with crap you could spend months and months picking apart - but it's usually just the artists having fun haha

stuck onyx
#

HG often revealed later updates this way

lyric karma
#

damn, I was hoping I had something there

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counted all the static bursts expecting 16, got 27 instead lol

cedar smelt
#

Have HG ever embedded something in a "HG" video? They've done a shit ton of stuff through Waking Titan - but none of that was ever No Mans Sky branded - it broke the fourth wall towards the end, but the two were always very seperate

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HG themselves never specifically embedded any thing into any of their own material that I know of. Exception being 1 tweet from Sean which played into the ARG at the time

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(Not saying they couldn't now, but I don't think "they've done before" is valid)

willow sun
#

Has Sean ever done something in a different language

lyric karma
#

no

cedar smelt
#

Not that I know of

lyric karma
#

unless you count translating NMS into different languages for various foreign language releases

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i.e. French, German, etc.

stuck onyx
#

didnt we get info about the nautical update through another trailer or is my mind failing me? been some time

cedar smelt
#

Ohh I couldn't say for sure with that one

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I sat that one out 😂

stuck onyx
#

same 😄

lyric karma
#

theory: derelict freighters popping up in NMS is ||the Abyss leaking through||

strong coyote
#

what time do the weekend missions start

twin token
#

What happened?

#

Tldr for the search?

strong coyote
#

nothing

cedar smelt
#

nothing. just torn between it being something, and being nothing lol

lyric karma
#

we're thinking it's just a distorted DESOLATION

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failing that

#

it might be something

cedar smelt
#

Update for the pins:
Community efforts have ascertained the following:

  • The glyphs in the trailer could be something
  • The glyphs in the trailer could be nothing

Thank you all for your efforts happygek

cedar smelt
#

Haha 😂

sick forge
#

So we literally have been at square zero

stuck onyx
#

also might want to recheck the pinned glyhps, the last one is cut off in the preview (until you click it)

cedar smelt
#

Ah yeah you need to click it - I think that's just Discord being a moron 😦

lyric karma
#

yea that's just discord doin a dumb

twin token
#

Damn

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Hopin its something

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Why go through extra hassle to make the glyphs tho? It's not like they were hoping we wouldn't find the update name

cedar smelt
#

It would be really nice if it was

twin token
#

I hope

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Someone email sean a puc of thi channel and tell him to make an Arg lol

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They hype is here and people want more waking titan

cedar smelt
#

You might have answered your own question though. "Why go to the effort". Maybe they didn't go to any effort, and just picked out a few random symbols and that's why they don't correlate with Desolation - it's so hard to know lol

twin token
#

I know that for a fact

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@cedar smelt ahhhh goodamit HG why do you do this?!

cedar smelt
#

haha!

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it could also be they knew it would drive us nuts

twin token
#

They know how hard we look though

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@cedar smelt well they did a good job at it

cedar smelt
#

they do - but they're sadistic 😂 sean knows that every time he tweets haha

twin token
#

Yup

granite sierra
#

Anything?

twin token
#

Wish he'd stop giving us heart attacks with cryptic tweets and secrets

thorn fjord
#

Nothing new @granite sierra

granite sierra
#

Ok

thorn fjord
#

He's the master of marketing

chrome cradle
#

sean feeds on our confusion

granite sierra
#

I'll try to contact him. Should I?

lyric karma
#

lol good luck with that

cedar smelt
#

One thing to be said for puzzles and ARGs - I made friends here who I've never really spoken about NMS with - just puzzles lol

lyric karma
#

FACTS

chrome cradle
#

the real answer is the friendship you make along the way

lyric karma
#

I just shitpost lore theories and try to steer the hypetrain

thorn fjord
#

It was Cloverfield that introduced me to ARGs, I'm still hoping they're still working on another film because I need more puzzles

cedar smelt
#

Haha! I went and worked part time in an Escape Room last year to fulfill my puzzling needs

thorn fjord
#

amazing 😄

lyric karma
#

to work in an escape room, is the interview "solve this"?

cedar smelt
#

The whole industry thought they were so revolunarily hiding stuff on their social media. I was like... this is old hat

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Haha I'd never done an escape room before I applied there! Done tons now though - once you get in that industry they all invite you for playtests and stuff

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I quit my "main job" last year for a bit and took it full time and ran it for about 6 months. But I missed my old job too much and came back just before covid. Thank god I did

thorn fjord
#

ooof, yeah

lyric karma
#

lol I lost my warehouse job a few months before the Rona, and now I'm considering changing career paths to being a chauffeur

cedar smelt
#

Escape Rooms dont tend to pay tax, so that would have been me on the breadline haha

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Aw no way Fluffy! 😦

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Chauffeur sounds cool though - good opportunity to try something different

lyric karma
#

yea but I'm delivering for a major pizza chain full time to pay the bills, which is surprisingly effective

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so I'm not struggling that much

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but I realized last night that I just really enjoy driving

thorn fjord
#

😄

lyric karma
#

so I'm considering pursuing driving people around xD

cedar smelt
#

Yes! 100%! I love driving and obviously working from home the last 5 years, I never get to do it much! 😅 Always figured I'd like to be a taxi driver

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But a chauffeur sounds far better

lyric karma
#

I just don't want to drive limos lol

chrome cradle
#

i have ptsd from dad trying to teach me how to drive. dad's not the best teacher around.

cedar smelt
#

haha do you drive now?

chrome cradle
lyric karma
#

oof :/ dad taught me on a manual and I've had a clutch in every car since xD

cedar smelt
#

Haha! Manual is the only way in the UK - though automatics are becoming more popular

chrome cradle
#

to this day i still feel a pang of fear just by sitting at the front, not even the driver's seat

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oh well public transport it is

cedar smelt
#

Aw man, I couldn't be without driving - you should give it another go sometime if you can bring yourself to it

chrome cradle
#

not before dad's 6 feet underground i dont think so.

lyric karma
#

big oof

chrome cradle
#

but thanks for the encouragement

lyric karma
#

think I might nuke this channel, and just make it again if we get something substantial

cedar smelt
#

😦

chrome cradle
#

feelsbadman

lyric karma
#

like I said, it's a temporary channel for tinfoil glyph stuff, and it's looking like it's just fancy artist artefacts in the video

cedar smelt
#

Sad to say it, but I think that's the case

lavish moon
#

There's still there overarching question of why they made a glitched out teaser at all

karmic valve
#

In all honesty

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If it is a puzzle and we don't get this right

cedar smelt
#

There's still there overarching question of why they made a glitched out teaser at all
@lavish moon I guess it really feels the isolated/spooky vibe of the update

karmic valve
#

Hg will probably send us a cheeky clue

thorn fjord
#

It fits the theme

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I hope it's something, but other than the glyphs themselves we have nothing

cedar smelt
#

Ye and I dunno what a 10 letter word could lead us to.
Bit.ly is 7 charcters
Portals are longer...

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Checked pastebin too -it's 8

karmic valve
#

Hang on

thorn fjord
#

I'm uploading all the frames to GDrive anyway, that way other folk can have a look through see if they find anything

karmic valve
#

I thought it was 9 letters

cedar smelt
#

Nah Yama if you click on the thumbnail in the pins you'll see all 10

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Discord just cut one off on us 😠

karmic valve
#

:(

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Desolation is 10 letters

twin token
#

@thorn fjord thanks

granite sierra
#

I tried contacting Sean hope replays.

thorn fjord
#

yeah, that's the other thing that's making us doubt the glyphs have any meaning

lyric karma
#

know what else is 10 letters?

granite sierra
#

What?

lyric karma
#

interloper

granite sierra
#

Oh

stuck onyx
#

if we think of a constant shift key, it doesnt make sense since the letters wouldnt align

granite sierra
#

But there are not two letters repeating.

stuck onyx
#

its either artisitc stuff or a puzzle, but not "desolation" IMO

twin token
#

Dedinwtly not desolation

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Is the NMS site up?

#

Check it for clues maybe?

granite sierra
#

Have somebody looked at Sean's comments? Maybe there's some clue.

cedar smelt
#

I checked the update page, but nothing in the source code

thorn fjord
#

we had a pretty good look through it last night, nothing that we could find

granite sierra
#

Ok

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Any other ideas?

cedar smelt
#

Negative

stuck onyx
#

where did you find that alphabet you posted earlier? some letters looked similar if flipped

granite sierra
#

Who?

stuck onyx
#

was that from NMS directly?

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you

granite sierra
#

No that was galactic alphabet

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I think you are talking about that

cedar smelt
#

It's bugging me because the symbol with the X in it [x] I've seen it somewhere befoer. But I can't think where

stuck onyx
#

probably

thorn fjord
cedar smelt
#

Yes! I've seen it somewhere for sure

#

But I've been playing a lot of Uncharted recently 😂

granite sierra
#

Me too it looks familiar.

thorn fjord
#

yeah, that's exactly what I said yesterday 🤔

karmic valve
#

It is really familiar

thorn fjord
#

and the 4th

cedar smelt
granite sierra
#

Hmmm

thorn fjord
#

I think maybe it's just a common symbol

cedar smelt
#

(FWIW these don't mean anything in uncharted either 🙂 )

#

yeah!

thorn fjord
#

I think it's probably some logo somewhere

stuck onyx
#

pretty common shape

cedar smelt
#

Nice

stuck onyx
#

(well, rotated a bit 😛 )

granite sierra
#

Hmmm dagaz

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Maybe?

twin token
#

So d?

stuck onyx
#

fehu would also fit

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if you rotate it

granite sierra
#

Yes

stuck onyx
#

and kenaz

granite sierra
#

Guys we are getting somewhere!

karmic valve
#

Nah I'm sorry

thorn fjord
cedar smelt
#

hahha

karmic valve
#

Those glyphs are definitely something

granite sierra
#

Ok we are not

stuck onyx
#

dont think the alphabet leads anywhere, would still make up gibberish in the end i think

karmic valve
#

There so visible

thorn fjord
#

brb, I need bacon

karmic valve
#

And so over the top

cedar smelt
#

Bacon 😋

granite sierra
#

Mmm

coral sparrow
#

LOTR

#

they were dwarvish runes

#

unless you guys covered that already

granite sierra
#

What?

twin token
#

Dwarwish runes?

coral sparrow
#

from the hobbit

granite sierra
#

Ehm

twin token
#

Huh

#

Any runes from sci fi?

granite sierra
#

Idk any

twin token
#

Star trek? Star wars? Idk

cedar smelt
#

In some ciphers, some runes can mean more than one letter too. which might debunk my "10 letter word" theory. (pic attached is as an example, not related)

granite sierra
#

We need some professional cryptologist for this lol

karmic valve
#

Have we turned the audio backwards

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Like i know it sounds silly

stuck onyx
granite sierra
#

I tried. Nothing

karmic valve
#

But the audio seems reversed

granite sierra
#

It is but nothing

#

Something with numbers?

#

Maybe how much sides do the glyphs have

#

Like for eg the first glyph

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Has 2 sides

#

So it could be B

#

Do you understand?

stuck onyx
#

doesnt work out, checked it earlier

karmic valve
#

The riff at the end

granite sierra
#

Ok

stuck onyx
#

there are two letters with 4 sides

karmic valve
#

The melody

stuck onyx
#

points dont seem to work aswell

karmic valve
#

Like in the last 3 seconds

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Is g sharp, c, f

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Don't know if thay means anything

#

It just sicks out

granite sierra
#

I think not

#

From the notes you really can't create any word

#

Maybe?

twin token
#

Planet count?

granite sierra
#

Yes

#

Maybe

twin token
#

Idk

#

Not sure abt that

granite sierra
#

I tried

stuck onyx
#

only thing i could think of without plainly using another alphabet is calculating the degrees of each letter individually and then calculate their position in the plaintext alphabet with modulo 16, but thats borderline esoteric

granite sierra
#

If you can try that

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I though of some other game

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Maybe something with Joe danger

twin token
#

Or the last campfire

granite sierra
#

Maybe

twin token
#

If we are thinking of another gane

#

That makes more sense

granite sierra
#

Yes it does

stuck onyx
#

its nothing, you wouldnt even know how to add up the different degrees for certain letters, more of a fun thought

#

so rule that out

granite sierra
#

Ok

stuck onyx
#

campfire could work though, little bit of cross promotion going on 😄

twin token
#

But these are 2 completely separate communities. How would that work

#

Although its release IS coming up

granite sierra
#

Try looking at the trailer.

#

Maybe they thought of this before

karmic valve
#

Boys it won't be for another game

#

Youre going insane

granite sierra
#

You are right. It can't be

#

It needs to be something with NMS.

cedar smelt
#

even if it was for another game, we still wouldn't be any further on lol

strong coyote
#

No Man's Sky 2

granite sierra
#

No

strong coyote
#

😄

twin token
#

Electric boogaloo

strong coyote
#

Sorry @granite sierra just bought my ticket for the hype train, no refunds

cedar smelt
#

Hypetrain will offer you 110% credit for your next hypetrain journey

thorn fjord
#

LOL

granite sierra
#

It's H Y P E FREIGHTER

#

From now on

twin token
#

!hypefleet

vague obsidianBOT
#

🚀 🇭 🛰 🇾 🚀 🇵 🛰 🇪 🚀 🇫 🛰 🇱 🚀 🇪 🛰 🇪 🚀 🇹 🛰

cedar smelt
#

😮

granite sierra
#

Ok

twin token
#

Oh hey gunter is working!

#

On this channel

granite sierra
#

Nice

cedar smelt
#

@lyric karma ^ Look who woke up lol

#

Does that mean....

#

Nope lol

granite sierra
#

!hypefleet

vague obsidianBOT
#

🚀 🇭 🛰 🇾 🚀 🇵 🛰 🇪 🚀 🇫 🛰 🇱 🚀 🇪 🛰 🇪 🚀 🇹 🛰

granite sierra
#

It really works

twin token
#

Nice

cedar smelt
#

👌

lyric karma
#

yea I ended up pinging the Dr about it, turns out he has to manually enable Gunter to see channels

cedar smelt
#

Ahhh least you're not going crazy

twin token
#

Oh wow lol

#

Yea I thought you'd be banging your head if he started working randomly

lyric karma
#

lol nah, everything is going as planned c;

granite sierra
#

But this glyphs arent

twin token
#

But we didnt plan them did we

granite sierra
#

No we didnt

lyric karma
#

also why are we hypefleeting

cedar smelt
#

I'm going to make a call to call them Runes instead of glyphs for clarity.
They definitely look much more like dwarfish tree runes

twin token
#

We are hyping

granite sierra
#

No reason

thorn fjord
twin token
#

@cedar smelt you're right

strong coyote
#

@thorn fjord can you assemble them into a video for easier viewing?

lyric karma
#

o.o

cedar smelt
#

Damnit I opened with my work account 🤦‍♂️

thorn fjord
cedar smelt
#

didn't even need to click that haha

strong coyote
#

I think everyone knows the URL

plucky glacier
#

XcQ

thorn fjord
#

haha

lyric karma
#

XcQ, no click u

strong coyote
#

I just click it cause it's a catchy song

thorn fjord
#

what happens when you open with your work account @cedar smelt?

cedar smelt
#

ohhhh haha!! I thought it was just the link to the trailer 😂

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@thorn fjord Add its to the "Shared with me" part of our Google Drive

granite sierra
#

I'm lucky I have slow internet

thorn fjord
#

ohhh yes

cedar smelt
#

Which is OK - except G Suite admins can see all GDrive activity 👀

#

Thankfully I am one of the admins ,so nobody should check mine lol

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But if they did.... lol

sick forge
#

😔

twin token
#

God like determination @thorn fjord

granite sierra
#

I think my NMS is updated now. !hypefleet

plucky glacier
#

"you want an admin to investigate my google drive? well i am an admin!"

cedar smelt
#

haha I've done too much GDrive investigation this week

#

I'm still unsure about the outline of the second symbol, if it matters. more inclined to think it's a swirl too

strong coyote
#

agreed

thorn fjord
#

yeah, after seeing some more of the shots I think so too

strong coyote
#

dunno what it is, but I've not been able to see the two arrows myself

granite sierra
#

Ok my mind is going crazy. Bye everybody

cedar smelt
#

almost arabic

lyric karma
#

know what it looks like to me?

#

...part of a cassette tape

plucky glacier
#

wait, so what picture are you guys looking at specifically

thorn fjord
twin token
#

@cedar smelt no not Arabic.

plucky glacier
#

ah

twin token
#

There are glyphs in other part of the vid too

#

Are they all the same

plucky glacier
#

yeah

cedar smelt
#

I mean that specific symbol

plucky glacier
#

i'm looking for the image rn

cedar smelt
#

And I'm still more inclined to think they are runes than glyphs

thorn fjord
#

yeah, it's like it's burned into the video throughout

plucky glacier
#

it's all the same runes/glyphs/somethings

#

credit to trailblazer

strong coyote
#

I saw someone outline it as a lambda knocked on its side

lyric karma
#

someone get me a meme of that guy looking at wood real close with the caption "hmm yes/this rune looks like rune"

plucky glacier
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i could make it myself

twin token
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Yea they look like the same set to me

plucky glacier
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not the best edit but it works

twin token
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Yea

safe matrix
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hmm

twin token
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So....

safe matrix
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words

stuck onyx
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i think we can rule out the portal adress right? since it would require them to prep one specific planet with extra stuff

proper verge
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its also not long enough

cunning scroll
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Now we wait 😂

proper verge
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madman

plucky glacier
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guaranteed response within 2.3 minutes

lyric karma
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implying Sean's inbox isn't filled with vitriol

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lul

misty storm
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If you want answers, you gotta ask questions

proper verge
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why

misty storm
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i don't know man don't ask me these things

proper verge
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ok

vital frigate
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require them to prep one specific planet with extra stuff
I've said before that that's basically the only way they could really hide anything well, as it couldn't be found by looking through the files or anything.

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And if not something like a portal address, what is it going to be? A 10 letter word... What good is that going to do us?

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"Desolation" was the obvious conclusion, but the repeated symbol(s) don't fit that.

strong coyote
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it doesn't rule it out entirely, could be a new dialling scheme

lyric karma
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damnit woop stop being cryptic before they figure out we know something

strong coyote
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we're not going to make any progress until we know where any code needs to be plugged in

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once we know that, narrows the possibilities massively

stuck onyx
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prepping a planet with extra assets would make little sense concerning screcy since dataminers would find said assets easily i think

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but then again, like adam said, we dont even know what to expect as an answer

vital frigate
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Assets, yeah... But they could make some base, or put some messages there, without any new assets.

stuck onyx
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that is a very good point

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didnt even think about that

strong coyote
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They could hide stuff, data mining is slow

twin token
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They did that with melody of the egg

strong coyote
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If it's going to start this weekend, then there's barely a day to datamine it

vital frigate
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It may just be a meaningless set of symbols, just to be creepy, or suggest something deeper. Or it may be part of something we haven't got enough of yet.

strong coyote
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add some trivial encoding so the usual tools don't work, and it'd be hidden for longer

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all they've got to do is slow down some nerds, not keep the CIA out

cedar smelt
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You underestimate the "nerds" 😏

thorn fjord
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haha

stuck onyx
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CIA nerds

thorn fjord
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why do I have no decent roles here?! 😭

lyric karma
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literally Former Discord Staff

cedar smelt
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n00b

thorn fjord
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sure am

lyric karma
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wait were you part of ARG Experts?

thorn fjord
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that's what I mean, I uncovered all the w/are stuff 😂

lyric karma
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...good enough

restive sleet
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I'm surprised anyone can DM Sean in the first place

cedar smelt
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lies, I don't remember him being here for that

lyric karma
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boom

thorn fjord
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I also started the server

cedar smelt
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I remember Athena

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but not Atlas Codex

thorn fjord
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YAY green, that's basically what I wanted 😛

lyric karma
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xD

cedar smelt
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haha twins

thorn fjord
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I've had maaaaany names

lyric karma
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Technically, I have both had and not had many nicknames

thorn fjord
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c R y P t I c

lyric karma
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nah just a joke on Schroedinger

thorn fjord
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😆

proper verge
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nicknames in a superposition

lyric karma
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I mean, the nick was given to me by Uzo, waaaaaaaaaaay back when

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so I figured it was fine c:

thorn fjord
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I'm supposed to be working but I've done nothing this morning, I hate to think how much work time I've lost to NMS related stuffs

lyric karma
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I have actually lost a phone due to Waking Titan

thorn fjord
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how?!

lyric karma
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dropped it trying to moderate the server while at the warehouse and shattered the piss out of the screen

thorn fjord
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oh damn

cedar smelt
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Haha this is the first discord has distracted me in a long time. I nearly installed it on my phone if this kicked off

lyric karma
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LITERALLY went to Cricket on my lunch and got a new phone

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because I didn't want to miss anything xD

thorn fjord
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was it WT where some participants got sent a phone?

lyric karma
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no

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that was my personal device

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oh wait I think it was WTS2 some got phones

thorn fjord
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yeah

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think it had the myriad app on it?

lyric karma
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soooooooooomething like that

thorn fjord
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good times

lyric karma
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I miss those damn radio stations

cedar smelt
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Yeah it had that and some notes and stuff in it didn't it

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And ultraviolet lighting on the boxes

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Ohhh and the hologram thing

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I still have one of those lol

twin token
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good times
@thorn fjord indeed

cedar smelt
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I remember talking to one of the dreamers in the last phase - wondering if they'd live or die

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Scariest feeling ever

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That last stage was all kinds of weird

cunning scroll
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inb4 we find out Sean is the father of the simulation we are living in now

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we're all just dreamers

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but seriously, another season of Waking Titan that ties into the missions in game would be pretty cool

lyric karma
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@cedar smelt honestly I felt like they railroaded the dreamer extraction

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there was significant group that wanted to answer incorrectly for Toby to see if it was possible to get the "bad end"

cedar smelt
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Haha wasn't it Zoid chatting with Toby though? He was never going to let that happen anyway

lyric karma
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I believe so

cedar smelt
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But I didn't make sense of the last part of the story at all

lyric karma
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same tbh

cedar smelt
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I remember for not understanding it though, the last video I was an emotional mess

strong coyote
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It ran for a long time, so I imagine they didn't exactly know when it needed to end

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They probably built a few exit points into the plot

cedar smelt
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I dunno! There was definitely a timing thing that wasn't sitting quite right. The whole W/ARE headset thing was clearly meant to lead us to the VR update, but we know that came sometime after. Whether that was on HG part on A&S I dunno

strong coyote
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Difficult to not be railroad-y when they know it needs to end by a fixed date

cedar smelt
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But I think the HG/A&S relationship must have started to end so they just wrapped it up

strong coyote
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they did a nice write up last year

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I'd forgotten it was 18 months in total

cedar smelt
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18 months man

strong coyote
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must have cost HG a pretty penny

cedar smelt
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I'd say so - sometimes I wonder how they're still paying all those devs to keep with these free updates etc on top of the ARG. I'm guessing it was just the windfall from the initial sales but damn they keep going

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We'll have to give them money at some point

thorn fjord
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Yeah I keep wondering the same

brazen raven
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NMS consistently sells well with each update

strong coyote
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@cedar smelt NMS2 confirmed?

cedar smelt
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It does - but most games sell well at updates and they're loaded with DLC and MTX

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NMS2 is the dream

strong coyote
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!hypefleet