It's the engine that Bethesda have used for the last 25 years
#other-games
sand marsh
isn't Creation engine?
thorn dawn
Creation is the same thing
sand marsh
oh
glass plinth
Its 78 percent new engine assets though
So really more of a engine built on a engine at this point
willow crypt
i know creation engine, didn’t know it was called gamebreyo
thorn dawn
It's why fallout 3 and Skyrim have many of the same bugs
(And why starfield and fallout 3 might)
willow crypt
i’ll still enjoy it idc about the majority of bugs i’ve experienced
worst one was FO3 or NV when the frame rate was like 1 frame per 20 seconds
on ps3
sand marsh
never played NV, but i heard it was very, very buggy at release
sand marsh
every bethesda game has a community patch lol
sand marsh
oh yeah
charred badge
every bethesda game has a community patch lol
Except 76. And that's why it remains so bad.
glass plinth
Itll probably be a while tell its playable for me
glass plinth
I never really played that one
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I swear their QA department is some random intern and they've been able to rely on the modder community to fix their games
glass plinth
Actually he was a pick up from riot
Lol
GAH, why do I know so many devs and stuff
I need a life
willow crypt
not a bad thing
glass plinth
Sigh * grumbles*
I think Im really glad I dont get to test bethesda games
It would ruin it for me
Thats one of the few companies I havent done QA for
willow crypt
I would never want to play test a lot of these games
charred badge
I've heard QA is pretty crummy
sand marsh
same
glass plinth
Palia is a blast to test, love that team so much
sand marsh
It will suck the fun out of playing video games for me
willow crypt
Subnautica is one game I am very glad I had very little knowledge of when I jumped in to play because it Ended up being one of the biggest surprises
coarse swift
I have seen the Starfield video
willow crypt
you like?
coarse swift
I believe I'll be playing that game from now on, thank you.
willow crypt
sand marsh
yep same
glass plinth
LOL
sand marsh
NMS is great but it's time for new devs to take the genre and improve on it
coarse swift
And tbh, I dont care if it turns out that most of the planets in Starfield are rocky or dead planets
I'm gonna explore every single one.
glass plinth
Ill be out around rocky rings mining them up around gas giants
willow crypt
collect grass
glass plinth
because man i love doing that
coarse swift
The trailer is scratching my itches
random seal
Whatd yall think of stqrfield
sand marsh
because man i love doing that
ever played Elite? mining in that game is so zen
coarse swift
Ill be out around rocky rings mining them up around gas giants
I doubt it'll have it, but I really hope we'll get some form of E:D asteroid cracking.
glass plinth
YES! I mined a ton in ED
willow crypt
Whatd yall think of stqrfield
what’s starfield
coarse swift
Goddamn is that satisfying
sand marsh
rings are so pretty
glass plinth
Great memories
random seal
It really remibds me of no mans sky but boring idk
glass plinth
Thats why when people say gas giants are pointless in NMS I want to gouge there eyes out
dry copper
You would enjoy X4 Foundations. mining in that game is insane
glass plinth
hehe, one mans boring is another mans gold Vian
willow crypt
Thats why when people say gas giants are pointless in NMS I want to gouge there ...
I never understood why people say gas giants would not be interesting in no man’s sky, it’s a lack of imagination. I could think of so many different ways to make exploration great in gas giants
coarse swift
Thats why when people say gas giants are pointless in NMS I want to gouge there ...
Gas giants would be a great source of deuterium
dry copper
wtf is vian?
sand marsh
i want to try X4, but it looks so complex. It scares me lol
dry copper
X4 is super complex and worth every minute of it
coarse swift
And after playing DSP, I can say that gas giants would be great in NMS.
glass plinth
Its also a sense of scale
I just like the beauty they provide
Of course, giving NMS's engine, I dont know how hard it would be to add them
Plus with gas giants youd need a rescale
refactoring space speeds for pulse drive
So on
glass plinth
I guess some of the devs felt the factoring for large space systems felt to sluggish early on
I get it, they took another route
thats why im not mad
Every game has different approaches
dry copper
Who needs a gas giant when you can just have a nebula
Make it shaped like a bubble. Gas giant achieved
coarse swift
Something I still gotta keep in mind with Starfield: that showcase definitely looked like showcase gameplay, and not indicative of a final product.
willow crypt
mini nebulas
willow crypt
Something I still gotta keep in mind with Starfield: that showcase definitely lo...
i’m ok if graphics take a hit
coarse swift
The HUD will likely look a bit different
willow crypt
oh yeah
glass plinth
Hrmm, same
willow crypt
i Think the hud will be inspired by the watch concept art they’ve been posting
coarse swift
the hood
glass plinth
I mean Im pretty sure my computer could run it
But you know not everyone has that kind of pc
willow crypt
glass plinth
Hrmm, Im thinking of selling my 5700xt and getting a 7000
coarse swift
If not a better GPU... then I guess another Series X
glass plinth
IF im not homeless by then
willow crypt
glass plinth
With the way things have been the last year, no certainty Ill even have a roof over my head by then. Let alone internet or a job
coarse swift
thats a shame to hear
glass plinth
Eh, it is what it is, it putting game into perspective
coarse swift
Simply get rid of inclement weather and you wont need a roof
glass plinth
hehe
Well at this point Im in a trailer until I can bounce back. Which is why Im playing a lot of nms
I cant download a lot of games on rural internet
Anyways
Yeah, starfield looks fun, hoping i get to try it
willow crypt
you shall bounce forth Sir Lee
dry copper
That will never happen
willow crypt
nooooooo
dry copper
Procedural generation
daring spear
It definitely isn't everything to do, so yes lmao
willow crypt
ban ceryn
coarse swift
Procedural generation has nothing to do with it
Factorio is procedurally generated
Dyson Sphere Program is procedurally generated
dry copper
The game is designed to unengage areas not actively interacting with a user
coarse swift
Base building is possible in NMS, which means factory building is possible
dry copper
That's how they get away with 18 quintillion planets
coarse swift
We already have the first step into it with mining depots
dry copper
So you don't care if it's animated or anything. You just want numbers crunching and something resulting?
coarse swift
So you don't care if it's animated or anything. You just want numbers crunching ...
I mean
It literally can be animated. Do you play any factory games? There's a lot of examples.
dry copper
I've seen several factory games. I've crashed my computer with them, too.
I'm just wondering if you're worried at all about asset management where rendering could become a concern.
coarse swift
With the bases I've seen, not at all.
And there's always workarounds.
If a conveyor system is used, you'd simply use the same type of "pipe" system we have the with the mining depots already. Something closed, where the products/resources arent visible. It might cut away the ability to sushi belt or something similar, but its not a big deal.
coarse swift
Sushi belting is a weird thing people do in factory games where that have a ton of different resources/products on the same belt and have various manufacturing facilities pull what they need from it
dry copper
Sounds like something amazon does
The crazy robot factory floor for SAP integrated amazon picking is insane
coarse swift
Would love to see it in person tbh
coarse swift
thats a lotta yellow
Man
At a glance, it looks incredibly disorganized
I hate it
I know the process is done by the robots but
ew
dry copper
The robots change the organization of the shop floor based on needs based picking
So if there's an item becoming super popular, the floor organizes those items near the outside for faster picking
thorn dawn
I know the process is done by the robots but
there's a human involved dw
they got ran over and smushed into the wheels
watching the starfield bit, looks like they might have an actual vehicle system
instead of reskinned horses
quaint escarp
the ship is actually a hat and theres a giant human thats flying
dry copper
classic bethesda
thorn dawn
I mean they made a train that was a person wearing a hat so nothing would surprise me completely
coarse swift
Can't wait to see the 12 minute Starfield speedruns because of horse vehicle glitch
fallen notch
I wonder if this time they actually have something resembling a reasonable progression system.
quaint escarp
looks like theres skill trees
glass plinth
Yup
ugh, I want to play NMS so bad, starfield made it worse
Stupid naming bug, i cant play for over a week now
dusty fable
Hmm finally NMS and Star Citizen have a new competitor
dry copper
Batman Arkham Knights
pine moon
lego batman 3 is in space
charred badge
Stupid naming bug, i cant play for over a week now
Can it be saved by a save edit?
dry copper
Youtube has a serious problem with copyright and their youtube shorts bs has only made it more complicated with creators who haven't already jumped on the ball to make their own
charred badge
It has a serious problem with not punishing false claims, yes
glass plinth
Huh
I never thought of that Ghost
can you save edit world names?!
Oh lord I need to know
I dont even care if the world names show up on other peoples pcs
I just need them for my storyboard
charred badge
1, the 2 duology, the side games!?
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-.-
stable perch
persona 3, 4 and 5
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all
stable perch
Well...The ones that are worth playing Kappa
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?
quaint escarp
persona takes 5 years anyway to 100%
charred badge
Being himself, presumably
stable perch
Lmao i bought persona 5 for PS4 like years and years ago and i still never played it
I was gonna but then life happened
and i keep forgetting i have it
charred badge
1 and 2s are more traditional RPGs
The dancing/etrian games getting ported, by any chance?
charred badge
Very, evidently
glass plinth
Im sad
Apparently save edit doesnt allow planet name edits ghost
Hehehe
honestly, I thought the same thing with the mining laser
I like that the terrains are more fantastic realism, versus just pure fantasy
Not to say I dont love NMS for its fantasy
fringe helm
THIS IS SUPER NO MANS SKY
on the surface yeah
stable perch
WOOOWWW
fringe helm
they were definitely inspired by NMS fr
fringe helm
buuut
stable perch
TODDS SKY
fringe helm
this is a bethesda game. It will most likely follow the same pattern as fallout or skyrim
I don't personally take offense to it
but I can definitely see the insipiration
fringe helm
it's gonna be fallout but this time in space
tame cairn
quite
fringe helm
with space artifacts
fringe helm
the worlds are gonna be handcrafted I think, for the most part.
fallen notch
All 1000 of them? I think not.
tame cairn
i just want tes6 imma say it again
crisp vapor
I bet its going to have an extremelly satisfactory gameplay loop like fallout/skyrim and the most bland mundane paint by numbers plot possible
fringe helm
All 1000 of them? I think not.
the main ones I think. The ones that matter
fringe helm
I bet its going to have an extremelly satisfactory gameplay loop like fallout/sk...
yeah... space artifacts
crisp vapor
the launch bugs are going to be hilarious, probably
tame cairn
have fun with that
crisp vapor
yeah... space artifacts
no you see, they give you visions, which isn't something that has been done before
tame cairn
lol
crisp vapor
how old is mass effect again
fallen notch
My guess is that it'll be mostly if not entirely procedurally generated landscape, with hand placed stuff in some places. I'm guessing there will be more bare rocks, gas giants, etc. vs. NMS's life-is-everywhere.
fringe helm
no you see, they give you visions, which isn't something that has been done befo...
what's a visions and why does it sound like rwby
tame cairn
idk cant wait though
random sleet
about as old as some of the people here probably
tame cairn
2008
crisp vapor
ouch.
glass plinth
Also moo, I dont remember where I saw, but it was about 80ish percent proc and the rest hand
So thats still a lot of hand made stuff lol
glass plinth
I gota say whoeever did the terrain gen did a good job
crisp vapor
god at this point I hope it's proc
wouldn't visit the type of crunch it'd take to do it manually on my worst enemy
tame cairn
1k is fine enough
dry copper
I hope you can poop in starfield
Is that too much to ask?
It doesn't need to be graphic...or even visible.
The Sims
Not the "Scum" kind of poop.
austere lance
I hope you can poop in starfield
Ark intensifies
winter yew
Am I the only one who gets fallout vibes from starfield combat
serene brook
Am I the only one who gets fallout vibes from starfield combat
Tbh it majorly reminded me of Halo
More than it did of fallout
The fast pace and grenade throwing
winter yew
I like halo and I miss playing it . But I’m not near as excited as starfield now
serene brook
It seemed like they combined Skyrim/Fallout with Halo and No Man’s Sky
winter yew
The combat is terrible from the trailer lol
Enemies dismiss him as a threat and the combat is weak
However they did impress me another way
serene brook
Yeah, admittedly the combat is the least exciting part for me right now.
Maybe they just had it on Very Easy mode for the trailer or something
winter yew
The way the creature responded to a gun drawn onto them , they dismissed him as a threat and went on . That is a great mechanic .. but combat against enemies from what we see so far , not impressed IMO
serene brook
And I suppose it’s also in the beginning of the game so maybe they’re meant to be easier at that point
winter yew
Also my biggest question , can we maneuver our ship like in no man’s sky or is it a cut scene
winter yew
And I suppose it’s also in the beginning of the game so maybe they’re meant to b...
Possibly the difficulty or they are meant to be there as a tutorial
serene brook
Also my biggest question , can we maneuver our ship like in no man’s sky or is i...
Yes you can. I’m not sure if you saw all the footage based on that comment:
There’s lots of space battle footage
winter yew
Yes you can. I’m not sure if you saw all the footage based on that comment:
The...
I didn’t see much of it , I wasn’t sure if you can free fly or fly around on or off planets
serene brook
Yeah, you can free fly
Wdym by “off” ships?
Like exit in your suit while in space?
Idk if you can do that but if you can then wow that’d be next-level as an amazing addition
winter yew
Yeah, you can free fly
My bad was a typo, I meant off planets
serene brook
It also showed docking your ship to other space structures/ships.
winter yew
I do like how the creatures respond to threats , just not how human entities respond
Yeah I’m thinking about making a review for my channel . I wanna find a few extra videos lol
serene brook
Like, attaching your ship to another structure in space of some kind. Maybe another ship or space station.
stable perch
So, actual thoughts on starfield besides it being Todd’s version of NMS
I mean...I’ll play it but...
serene brook
I do like how the creatures respond to threats , just not how human entities res...
Yeah. I didn’t catch that it actually responded to the gun in the video. What I took from it was “Oh, don’t judge a book by its cover. Guess that creature was neutral and doesn’t attack unless provoked.”
stable perch
It looks kinda bland?
winter yew
It looks kinda bland?
Disappointing
The weapons are bland . Now I do dislike over futuristic weapons but it was bland
winter yew
Yeah. I didn’t catch that it actually responded to the gun in the video. What I ...
We still haven’t seen much but I imagine that was a very strong basis of the game
serene brook
It looks kinda bland?
It has a lot of nuances in terms of abilities and starting strengths/weaknesses so that’ll be interesting. I’m sure there’s going to be a lot to it compared to what we were shown.
winter yew
Idk if I wanna compare it to nms on my channel but my channel revolves around nms
stable perch
I wonder how space flight is gonna be. Bethesda can barely do horses
winter yew
I really hope the dialogue is good lol
stable perch
And they are going from horses to fucking space combat
serene brook
Idk if I wanna compare it to nms on my channel but my channel revolves around nm...
I mean, they did mine-beam iron (Fe)….
winter yew
I wonder how space flight is gonna be. Bethesda can barely do horses
The wagons in Skyrim fly 😂
winter yew
I mean, they did mine-beam iron (Fe)….
That was very similar and the robotic pet
stable perch
ah so they have experience lmaooo
serene brook
Too bad there’s no Skyrim magic in space :(
winter yew
I believe this game can be comparable to No man’s sky a little bit
winter yew
Too bad there’s no Skyrim magic in space \:(
Fus ro da
I’m personally a little excited but not as excited as I was before the video . It was the combat mechanic that killed me xD
I may go ahead and produce my opinions on the game for content , but they will not be anything but honesty 😂
I do like the faction concept tho
serene brook
I believe this game can be comparable to No man’s sky a little bit
There’s a lot to compare tbh:
Landing anywhere you want on unique planets, alien life, mining beams, base building, ship customization, space battles….
winter yew
There’s a lot to compare tbh:
Landing anywhere you want on unique planets, alie...
I can’t think of any other space games that does all that
serene brook
I’m personally a little excited but not as excited as I was before the video . I...
I’m hyped* about everything about the game except the battling lol
winter yew
I’m hyped* about everything about the game *except* the battling lol
I’m curious about the flying
serene brook
I can’t think of any other space games that does all that
Can’t remember how much Elite Dangerous lets you do out of all those. I don’t own it nor Star Citizen.
winter yew
I’ve never played that one , there are quite a few I’m missing out on playing right now
I see 1,000 planets being viewed as a negative thing but I can't help but see 1,000 planets to give an opportunity to build new bases/colonies.
that’s still a thousand planets we will never fully explore
serene brook
I see 1,000 planets being viewed as a negative thing but I can't help but see 1,...
It really makes me wonder if they’ll bring in multiplayer this time
winter yew
That’s still huge but I find the galaxy map to be bland in starfield
Or the solar system map
winter yew
It really makes me wonder if they’ll bring in multiplayer this time
Probably not .. it’s a Bethesda game , the lag is bad
serene brook
Or the solar system map
Eh, I’m fine with a function-over-beauty map but yeah, compered to the NMS map every current game’s solar system map is probably bland lol.
So much color in the NMS one
winter yew
Yeah NMS is more of a cartoon feel unlike Starfield where it’s more “real and dangerous”
serene brook
Curious how much they’re planning on changing between now and release
winter yew
Maybe not much , I’m sure it’s developed quite a bit
Maybe bugs and cosmetics .. but I’m not a developer so idk
serene brook
Slightly disappointed they don’t have space wizards/magic lol. Didn’t expect it at all whatsoever but adds to the battling variety
winter yew
See I don’t know if everything in this game is Dull like a filter
serene brook
Skyrim has so much battling options/diversity
serene brook
I don’t think any game will have the “same color” as NMS lol
NMS color is very……….
“80’s?”
Retro
Or something
winter yew
yeah every Planet is a new pallet of colors
@willow crypt @snow zenith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApnE_PZmPZA
Starfield is possibly just very washed out and grey ? The moon seemed that way and the characters
serene brook
Did you see the clip of all the various planets/terrains/biomes toward the end of the showcase?
winter yew
I like how everyone is judging this trailer this hard and it’s just over 10 minutes 😂
winter yew
Did you see the clip of all the various planets/terrains/biomes toward the end o...
I didn’t, it’s in the video ?
serene brook
I didn’t, it’s in the video ?
I’ll post the link to the video I saw. It was toward the end.
winter yew
Okay it may be Bethesda official code on YouTube
winter yew
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wAzxE6z1wPI
Yess thank you!
I’ll skip to the last 3-4 minutes
winter yew
I’ll post the link to the video I saw. It was toward the end.
Yeah it does seem to get better
serene brook
Yeah. There’s a lot of aspects going on to focus on. As long as combat is challenging and/or has enough variety then I think it’s easily a winner
When I get really hyped for something I get to the point of “Whelp, all I have to do is stay alive until it releases. What do I do in the meantime….hmmm.”
Currently I just keep switching between games not really finding one I’m happy with.
winter yew
Currently I just keep switching between games not really finding one I’m happy w...
Yeah I’ve been there . Right now I’m starting work soon , so I might not have as much time as I thought to play starfield when it comes out lol
serene brook
Yeah I’ve been there . Right now I’m starting work soon , so I might not have as...
Yeah……my first baby is due around then so…..
winter yew
What’s the release date of starfield ? Isn’t is November of 2022?
serene brook
What’s the release date of starfield ? Isn’t is November of 2022?
No, early 2023
winter yew
Yeah……my first baby is due around then so…..
So we both aren’t gonna be playing 😂
winter yew
No, early 2023
That’s still okay
serene brook
It used to be Nov 2022 like you said or something but was delayed.
Have a good time at work!
Oh wait
My brain forgot that you weren’t talking about how for a sec
Well have a good time at work forever from now regardless! Lol
winter yew
Have a good time at work!
Good luck with your new child! I hope everything goes well with these prices and everything.
I am happy it was delayed , it may have needed some more work lol
serene brook
Good luck with your new child! I hope everything goes well with these prices and...
Prices?
And thanks!
serene brook
Oh okay. Wasn’t sure if that’s what you meant.
winter yew
Yeah I wasn’t sure if people are allowed to talk about that kinda stuff here 😂
serene brook
I’m sure we’ll make it work out somehow
Eh, I’m sure it’s fine so long as we don’t get political
And so long as it doesn’t take up the whole channel’s convo
winter yew
I’m sure we’ll make it work out somehow
Yeah we don’t want it to take up too much room , I’ve had a really good chat! I hope everything goes well
serene brook
See you around!
snow zenith
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primal loom
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I'm really looking forward to this! Looooved Cloudpunk 🚙
@idle saffron @snow zenith D77-TC Pelican from Halo is now officially in Microsoft Flight Simulator 
idle saffron
Weeeeeee
primal loom
Omg I kid you not, there's a little CD player in the cockpit that actually plays that lmao
on the top-left of the dashboard
idle saffron
Looks crisp
primal loom
Sir, the IKEA has been located. Requesting orders, over.
idle saffron
UNSC-1, you are cleared to approach and engage, repeat, you are cleared to approach and engage, over.
primal loom
UNSC-1, you are cleared to approach and engage, repeat, you are cleared to appro...
Acknowledged, UNSC-1 engaging, over.
snow zenith
snow zenith
@fleet moat Peaky Blinders season 6 is out 👀
willow crypt
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thorn dawn
<@357610080235028510> Peaky Blinders season 6 is out 👀
Cor blimey
dry copper
Cillian Murphy is a rare breed of actor
He can play sinister, courageous, terrified, psychotic, pleasant...
"I tried not to get into this war, and did - and now try to get out and can't."
@austere lance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VJW0qmeCc8
west pier
starfield....ugly no man's sky, which is saying something lol
dry copper
INTERNET Fight fight fight fight fight fight fight
west pier
i just don't like the art direction lol
atomic nimbus
Fair enough but I wouldn’t say it’s ugly
west pier
it's moody and unsaturated and realistic and it just feels like a shame not to make anything more colorful with 1000 actually maybe cool planets
atomic nimbus
We’ve seen a small snippet of the game so there could be colorful planets
We have seen a moon.
dry copper
We need an Epic Battle Simulator but with space ships, but instead of the spaceships being single minded systems, they're controlled by dozens of NPCs that can all be individually screwed over, making the simulator more simian than ever.
idle saffron
Same. Looks neat
coarse swift
My expectations are already at the standard Bethesda game with it. You bet there's gonna be bugs
idle saffron
Aye, also same - no preorder here
coarse swift
But still, I enjoyed almost every Bethesda game I've played
I just hope these 1000+ planets aren't gonna be smol
coarse swift
A lotta room for creativity
idle saffron
For sure, I'm looking forward to it
coarse swift
No doubt we'll get Thomas the Tank Engine spaceships in days of release
Modular Thomas
idle saffron
Lmao, yes
dry copper
I find it remarkable that the people talking shit about it seem to be randoms that never speak otherwise
winter yew
1,000 planets gives a nice choice of places to build bases/colonies though.
winter yew
Was always gunna be this way tbh.
dry copper
Happens with all social media really. There will always be shit to spread and money to be made doing it.
coarse swift
What i find hilarious is the Playstation folks hating on it
I get that its an Xbox/PC exclusive but thats no reason to start saying "horizon forbidden west graphics better, this game is trash"
I don't like exclusivity, but I really hate fanning over a specific console more
winter yew
Probably held a small shimmer of hope that it would be extended to PS as it was announced pre Microsoft buyout.
Now realisation has set in that it's not how it be.
coarse swift
Itd be nice if it did come to Playstation was well imo
Just like itd be nice if the new Horizon also came to Xbox
I like the idea of everyone being able to enjoy the game idunno 
atomic nimbus
Don’t forget the modded planets too
snow zenith
snow zenith
Y'er welcome
silver sparrow
ok
idle reef
it's moody and unsaturated and realistic and it just feels like a shame not to m...
here are some planets https://i.redd.it/4bitx4ymo8591.jpg
meager panther
it's moody and unsaturated and realistic and it just feels like a shame not to m...
its going to need a lot of enb/post procesing to make it look alive/vibrant
fast isle
Joe danger 2: the movie is in the new ps+ premium subscription
meager panther
its going to need a lot of enb/post procesing to make it look alive/vibrant
https://youtu.be/ZHZOTFMyMyM?t=377 also at this time stamp, the textures look like they dont have any parallax mapping, which is why they look so outdated/flat
fast isle
Oh yea xbox showcase happened
Cool ig
There wasn't really as much hype around game reveals like that since e3 died
meager panther
nothing really good except the forza dlc , halo ship in flight sim and starfield reveal
balmy plaza
Ngl starfield looks like my dream game
And personally I'm happy with the more bleak visual style, it sets it apart from their other games
And other space games too
meager panther
other than the bleak style, i am ok with everything else
its supposed to be space, full of hope and stuff
not dreary like this
meager panther
it needs a lot more vibrant shading
but this is an issue with all bethesda games
the community does a good job of making enbs to fix it
snow zenith
glass plinth
Fortunately starfield is going to be like skyrim. Reshades galor
Although, I like the more bleak colors. Space is desperate, scary, dangerous and stoic
In my opinion
meager panther
space is also hope and all that stuff
the unknown
glass plinth
We have very different feelings then
meager panther
yes and hopefully enb/shaders fixes those feelings
and only other complaint is the NPCs looked weird
their animations
glass plinth
Not to say I wouldnt like some mad house colorful jungle
meager panther
they looked all uncanny
glass plinth
Space tends to be jarringly vibrant and dull
Yeah, I can't agree it's a bit dated
I mean I can
Overall I love the terrains
Curious if they support fsr. It sure helped me run nms on ultra.
I have draw distance to the horizon now lol
meager panther
i just dont want it ending up like nms/cyberpunk
if it fails only sq42 will be left lol
glass plinth
Well for me nms is as far from a failure as possible
I also love moded cyberpunk
Hrmm.. I just tend to be very flexible with what I like
Now if you mean skip a bad release, yeah right
This is a complex release, it will be borked
meager panther
bugs are ok, just no stuff where todd says something and its not at all in the game
glass plinth
Funny thing with nms was I knew what would be in it, so I was happy
I can tell what's possible and not at release, to much qa work
meager panther
i didnt, i thought it will have lot to explore and stuff
glass plinth
Maybe that's why I'm easier to please, I see things differently
I sure didnt expect complexity tell post release
I knew the type of engine they used would take foever to mature, with the team they had
Same with starfield, I expect 3 years for it to mature
Minimum
glass plinth
Yes but its will take more
meager panther
and its TODD
glass plinth
Post and pre maturity are unavoidable
glass plinth
In time, 6 years
meager panther
because nms is too deep to make any big changes anymore
glass plinth
As games increase complexity, they will grow in time for maturity. So in say 5 years, those games will take longer, per scale
Ad infinitum
meager panther
nah lot of processes are also more streamlined in development
like these days shadows dont have to be baked, which saves like several hours for each game model
same for lighting
with rTX no more creating texture maps etc
glass plinth
That's not what demonstrate scale prove, tools will improve but not at scale
The maturity scale rarely decreases and over time always increases despite discrepancies
That's factually probable
earnest hatch
Starfield looks like a actually promised star citizen
Now will it deliver
I have no clue
But it looks pretty cool
The world's look really vibrant and lived in
glass plinth
We will see. I'm hoping
fleet moat
<@357610080235028510> Peaky Blinders season 6 is out 👀
yessssssssssssss
snow zenith
Binging S5 rn
wispy rapids
thorn dawn
512 floppy drives, 4 scanners, 16 hdd's
subtle folio
Will nms die after the release of starfeild?
winter yew
I always stop using my current car when new cars come out.
subtle folio
I always stop using my current car when new cars come out.
You must be richhhhhh.
thorn dawn
Just sarcastic
coarse swift
When you're in your car, do you feel safest of all?
I mean, you can lock all your doors
Its the only way to live
silver sparrow
sees ship customization in starfield
sheds a tear
winter yew
Gunna be so many dick ships. 😌
broken prairie
for me
snow zenith
@primal loom @idle saffron we need to play again 👀 👉👈
coarse swift
Gunna be so many dick ships. 😌
For the life of me I can't find a solid gif of that Dr Evil spaceship
At least, one thats sfw
silver sparrow
Gunna be so many dick ships. 😌
thorn dawn
Starfield will have a silent protagonist 😮
willow crypt
good
thorn dawn
Means we miss out on gems like this though
"Over 100 systems. Over 1000 planets. All open for you to explore."
I'm guessing it'll be up to 50 unique planets and 950 palette swaps
coarse swift
Starfield will have a silent protagonist 😮
Tbh silents better than having a voice you may not like
thorn dawn
100%
willow crypt
Yeah i wonder how much time they've devoted to the diversity of the planets
thorn dawn
This is the question - how much dev time has actually been invested in variety. And, we won't know the answer to that until the review embargo lifts
in 2023
willow crypt
one way or the other, it should be enough to keep me invested for at least as long as I've put into their previous titles. Don't need an endless exploration game from them
thorn dawn
true. skyrim was plenty big, even if they did only have like, 3-4 different dungeons
glass plinth
I'm hoping most are mundane worlds. Someone on pcgamer wrote a article nailing my sentiment
That's not to say I can't appreciate well done mundane worlds
However empty tranquil worlds can be so cathartic
Probably why I love deserts
willow crypt
i like the simplicity factor sometimes. I don't mind if a lot of them are barren, but mixed with subtle variation, like an outpost or a rare flora/fauna
thorn dawn
be interesting to see how big they make the planets
whether they let you (theoreticllay) explore the whole thing
willow crypt
can't imagine they'd be to scale
thorn dawn
or if it's just small maps
willow crypt
i think it's the entire planet
then the special zones, like hubs and hand crafted locations
glass plinth
They stated all points on a world can be la ded on
So they are globes
The size.. who knows
coarse swift
Flat earthers gonna hate Starfield
willow crypt
flat earthers hate all space games
glass plinth
Yes, isnt it lovely
thorn dawn
bUt WiLl It HaVe OrBiTaL mEcHaNiCs
No, because orbital mechanics aren't fun
Go play KSP
thorn dawn
DSP?
coarse swift
Dyson Sphere Program
thorn dawn
ah, that's kinda psuedo orbital mechanics
coarse swift
No u
glass plinth
Lol they made a vr flat earth test thT actually had some flat earthers having panic. Attacks
coarse swift
I find them well rounded
winter yew
Lmao ffs
glass plinth
Sorta hilarious as they could see what a flat earth would look like and why what we see is a observable sphere
Anywho, I really was impressed with the number of ground props I saw in starfield
Way more then nms
Plus more comes terrain
coarse swift
Wonder if there'll be a black hole
willow crypt
seems like that would be a good story beat
coarse swift
Nothing like an inescapable massive force of gravity to scare the shit out of you
winter yew
👌
coarse swift
Thats a strong ship
If it holds everything together up until you step outside of it.
thorn dawn
duranium > bone
Google says you'd only need 100x stronger gravity than earth
or a high pressure planet where you step out of the shield bubble and you're crushed to the size of a cheeto
winter yew
Crawl inside the ||ear||hole of a passing creature.
coarse swift
thorn dawn
watching the trailer again, the bit with the insects is a bit janky
their walk isn't quite right
dust clouds look off too
winter yew
The animations were a little off yeah.
thorn dawn
hopefully gets some polish approaching release
coarse swift
Still got roughly a year
winter yew
Pretty sure that's why the delay, game is done, all polishing now.
winter yew
Didn't see any fields filled with stars tbh.
winter yew
I only got one personal "want" with Starfield tbh.
winter yew
I wanna be able to crash my ship in to the ground without any auto pilot trying to correct course.
Oh. That too but.
thorn dawn
doesn't sound like we'll be able to join the pirates
idle saffron
Be the pirate you want to see
robust skiff
so what do we think of starfield?
glass plinth
Oh loved the debris during fights
idle saffron
Looks neat
glass plinth
The way ships vented and parts fell off was great
robust skiff
my brain has just been acting like a smug anime character thinking about it
It does seem very similar to nms.
glass plinth
Your smug, but are you anime enough hrmmmm?
thorn dawn
Bonus stats for bunnyhopping everywhere
idle saffron
Sweet
winter yew
What the heck.
glass plinth
🥳
robust skiff
pushes glasses up with one finger You doubt my level of anime?
thorn dawn
Triggered
glass plinth
Hahaha
winter yew
People play games to escape reality though.
robust skiff
true.
glass plinth
Yeah but debt is always thete
Corps gota remind you of your insignificant nature and push you to make more to pay more
robust skiff
i'm listening to a somewhat positive article about starfield, i'm just wondering what will be worse the nms launch or starfield launch. i mean betesda is known for being big and buggy.
thorn dawn
Gonna build me a JMC Starbug
winter yew
I'm gunna build Crazy Frog.
robust skiff
and i still remember f76
glass plinth
I wouldnt take bets on that lol
Nms was soooooo buggy and Bethesda's is bugthesda
Hard to sau
I love ships have interiors
That was awesome to properly see
thorn dawn
ship explosions need some work too, the pirate got blowed tf up but the ship model was undamaged
robust skiff
the way i see it, i have no man's sky, why play a similar game from a dev i don't trust.
glass plinth
Really? I saw whole parts fall off in one video section
robust skiff
dear gosh bethsda is STILL using the creation engine?
thorn dawn
Really? I saw whole parts fall off in one video section
the first one looks ok, but the second one is completely intact as it spins towards you
robust skiff
pretty sure that dates back to daggerfall
glass plinth
Well 20 percent of it. Most of the engine is new
Asset managements mostly what's old
robust skiff
like i've been playing oblivion lately modded, do you know how many mods i need just to fix all the bugs and crashes in vanilla?
glass plinth
50?
winter yew
Zero if you get the GOG version.
quaint escarp
glass plinth
I wont say how many I use in skyrim, its overv100
coarse swift
Hey @winter yew
robust skiff
12, one is literally just a custom autosaver because i still get a bunch of crashes.
i have like 90 something total mods though.
winter yew
Hey @coarse swift
coarse swift
Hey <@289461676103958538>
winter yew
You mother fucker.
quaint escarp
im guessing the 1000 planets are generated procedurally and then they go in and add cities and stuff by hand
glass plinth
Aye, any points of
I'm curious if we can swim lol
Or if they will just make water impassable
quaint escarp
they will prob have swimming but how many planets do u think will have water thats safe to swim in
coarse swift
Land on a planet and suddenly you're playing Subnautica
robust skiff
they will prob have swimming but how many planets do u think will have water tha...
how safe is it to swim in no man's sky?
winter yew
90%
coarse swift
Almost completely
Ignore those glowy things sticking outta that one thing and you'll be fine
robust skiff
i guess that is my point. given how crazy uninhabitable many planets would be outside of a suit i don't think worrying about whether a ocean is safe to swim should be a concern.
meager panther
In the starfield reveal, you can see todd's grinning expand everytime he talks
Its like hahaha i have finally done it
Especially after showing the ship customisation
😩
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT7khMO9lKM this is so good
snow zenith
arctic thistle
austere lance
Ugh, I've been waiting forever for Voidtrain
willow crypt
game from new studio of some people from Playdead https://twitter.com/geometricint/status/1536071905232437254?s=21&t=UaAEZgjLDDZ04xPEcFLt4A
snow zenith
Yea this one looked really interesting
2022/23's really interesting in terms of games, I'm pumped
willow crypt
fosho
shadow tartan
snow zenith
dry copper
Jennifer Hudson achieved a rare feet last night (the news tells me), and my brain can't help but foot the entire bill to some sort of childish cast
For those curious, she is one of only a handful of people who are now "EGOT" (Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, Tony - Award winning)
shadow tartan
@silver sparrow https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=ID_9LFoTQ2A&feature=share
glass plinth
Oh I like that one Nate
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For those curious, she is one of only a handful of people who are now "EGOT" (Em...
What an EGO Trip
We just need an 'R' award to make it craZy
austere lance
Dragons Dogma is getting an anniversary stream in three days where they might reveal Dragons Dogma 2, Resident Evil Village is getting a third person mode and a DLC story where you play as Rose, it's getting a spin-off pvp game that lets you play as RE characters, and that Exoprimal game had gameplay shown
Capcom show just happened, lol
crisp vapor
they might reveal Dragons Dogma 2 dont toy with my heart now
austere lance
They announced a tenth anniversary stream for Dragons Dogma and people are HYPED
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Dragons Dogma is getting an anniversary stream in three days where they *might* ...
I'd be happy with an HD update
Oh man, imagine if it's a western rerelease of the mmo
austere lance
Wasn't Dark Arisen basically the HD update, lol
sleek cloud
_they might reveal Dragons Dogma 2_ dont toy with my heart now
have had this game downloaded for years now and still haven't played it 😄
the first one that is
crisp vapor
you like D&D ?
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Get the Shrek pawn. He's great
crisp vapor
Lmfao did everyone get that mf
crisp vapor
I have that dude favorited
sleek cloud
never really dabbled in D&D so no i suppose as it's never really interested me
crisp vapor
okay, fantasy, dark sousl shit like that ?
sleek cloud
ye
crisp vapor
cause Dogma gave me moments no DS ever did
especially the first time around when you have no clue e what the fuck your doing
sleek cloud
i've heard it's excellent and i should definitely give it a go one day
currently playing a bit of Kenshi
crisp vapor
so you try to play it as a soulslike
crisp vapor
and yeah
its awesome
unless you play mage, thats uh
second playthrough srsly
there's this fight midway through the game
fkn 😘 👌
only other game I wish I could forget so i could experience all over again was Portal
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Meanwhile I've finally gotten around to revengeance
sleek cloud
another game i haven't touched yet is Portal 2 😄
charred badge
Having way more fun this time, mainly due to a single pro tip
"Don't play it as a stealth game"
sleek cloud
that's what i did in one of my Skyrim playthroughs. Went with a brutish orc build that never sneaks about. Was great
charred badge
Stealth in Skyrim is like Speech in NV, haha
It's the most efficient, and boring, way to negate most of the game
primal loom
_they might reveal Dragons Dogma 2_ dont toy with my heart now
Eeeee, please let it be real
charred badge
Or was that FO3? I forget which one it was
primal loom
I still hear "They're masterworks all, you can't go wrong" in my dreams
primal loom
Or was that FO3? I forget which one it was
Both tbh
sleek cloud
sneaking in Fallout was always boring
Skyrim ain't that bad. A little too easy though
especially when you shoot someone in the head and they carry on their day with said arrow sticking out their head 😄
primal loom
"I must be hearing things!"
sleek cloud
Places bucket on shopkeepers head - Ha Ha, now i can rob the entire place and they'll never even know
winter yew
get real
primal loom
I'm looking forward to Starfield, looks really promising
Cant wait to try out space buckets on shopkeepers
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idle saffron
Edvard Grieg was as fat as a pieg. He wrote Peer Gynt, I sure wish he didn't
winter yew
a
torpid lynx
sleek cloud
I'm looking forward to Starfield, looks really promising
i wasn't that hyped. Now i am 😄
love how NMS was the first game people compared it to
primal loom
Lol 🪣
primal loom
me in rdr2
Looking good partner 🤠
winter yew
Looking good partner 🤠
you too :>
primal loom
Yeah, NMS is the poster child of procedural space games
idle saffron
primal loom
No Man's Skyrim rolls of the tongue well too 😛
sleek cloud
don't know why but i could never get into Red Dead
winter yew
sleek cloud
someone's a bit trigger happy
idle saffron
winter yew
"so you're approaching me?"
"how else am I supposed to stomp the hell out of you?"
gigachad arthur
primal loom
Saint Denis 🥰
primal loom
i wasn't that hyped. Now i am 😄
I was super surprised by the buildable, modular, flyable ships in Starfield - I was expecting the ship only to function as player housing + cinematic loading screen between planets
dull tulip
Rahcel cuter name
glass plinth
So leaks, yeah, I keep seeing Starfield leaks on this dev forum I frequent, they can barely keep them stopped
Sheesh, someone is WAY to hyped
winter yew
glass plinth
This is rd2 right?
primal loom
Sheesh, someone is WAY to hyped
Going to be a long wait for them then 😅
winter yew
primal loom
Yep
winter yew
This is rd2 right?
yep
primal loom
Jinx
glass plinth
Really is beautiful
winter yew
glass plinth
That mountain reminds me of one in NMS behind a city I had
sleek cloud
I was super surprised by the buildable, modular, *flyable* ships in Starfield - ...
Still makes me wonder how seemless planet to space flying is
glass plinth
I dont know if it will be
sleek cloud
didn't look like it in the gameplay
glass plinth
I wouldnt be surprised if you warp to a planets nearbye space instance
and reinstance when on a planet
Easier memory wise
glass plinth
Wouldnt really impact gameplay much realistically
We just dont have a clue
HOWEVER< I can say the number of plants I saw in the leaks are astounding
At least 40 biomes
sleek cloud
and wasn't expecting anywhere near 1000 planets
primal loom
Crazy stuff
dull tulip
I wanna look, but I'm not gonna >.<
sleek cloud
was thinking 3 maybe 4 systems with a handful of planets/moons each
primal loom
I wanna look, but I'm not gonna >.<
Same, stay strong 🫂
winter yew
primal loom
I'm so excited to see more proc-gen space games
snow zenith
DOG
snow zenith
Great shots, Cat
primal loom
Seconded, these are very lovely <3
winter yew
austere lance
Metal Gear Rising Revengence 2, LMAO
https://youtu.be/5o5KKymxIv8
dull tulip
I know it's a nms server but it'd be fun to have non nms related screenshot section where we can just blast a ton of pics out
primal loom
Time for #other-game-screenshots 👀
winter yew
Time for #other-game-screenshots 👀
yay
dull tulip
Normally its just discussion in here, so I never feel comfortable just tossing screenshots, occasionally I made people look at my Genshin Teapot tho 
dull tulip
Red Dead is a beautiful game, so of course your screenshots are pretty 
daring spear
primal loom
what do you think of my photos??
They are lovely 😊
primal loom
Normally its just discussion in here, so I never feel comfortable just tossing s...
Do ittt
dull tulip
I see a floaty
primal loom
Make your dreams come true
sleek cloud
crazy how good Red Dead looks even on a PS4
dull tulip
Big trees are pretty amazing
daring spear
I'm trying to go toward it to see if I can actually get to the humongous tree
I'll more than likely die instead but we'll see
winter yew
They are lovely 😊
no u
daring spear
It does seem to be getting closer though
primal loom
An aspect of Starfield that excites me is the potential for modded planet generation, could see some very interesting results
Creation Kit go brrr
Rasamama ship mod needed
winter yew
V
glass plinth
Yeah thats something I was thinking about
The potential for entire worlds redone or added
quaint escarp
death star in starfield
glass plinth
Not to say planets wouldnt have limitations
glass plinth
That could take a decade hehe
quaint escarp
would be a huge undertaking
austere lance
The only mod that would matter (tho we might be able to build it ourselves, lol)
quaint escarp
it would take years for a fleshed out star wars mod
also ships have different speeds and stats
glass plinth
I liked seeing ships can dock
primal loom
Yeah!
glass plinth
You can couple them together and board
plus stations were pretty impressive
Even at its worst, Starfields just going to be fallout with space ships lol
Which is to say, heck yeah
primal loom
I'm looking forward to this new era of Bethesda game
glass plinth
Also gosh its going to be nice to walk around our ships
I wanted that in Elite so long
primal loom
Yeahh
quaint escarp
i dont think u can walk it when flying right
primal loom
I'm gonna fill my ship with space cheese
glass plinth
I want a biosphere
primal loom
Yeah!! Space farmer
glass plinth
I saw from the leaks, some really nice science parts and science ship builds
primal loom
Ooo
glass plinth
One was pretty long, spindly bugger, but decked with scanners and cargo
Either way, its going to be interesting to see how it all pans out
primal loom
For sure
glass plinth
Aww so many cartographers in NMS I know are so excited for starfield
The personal rp is great
primal loom
Wonder what the upper limit on ship size will be
glass plinth
Sigh, which just reminds me namings still broke in nms
austere lance
Starfield vs The Outer Worlds 2 is gonna be interesting, lol
Tho I guess it's not really vs since they're owned by the same company 😆
primal loom
The more space games the merrier I say, room for all
glass plinth
I imagine out of the 1000 worlds, only a handful will support complex life
primal loom
Same
sleek cloud
plenty of space for space games
glass plinth
Indeed
austere lance
Lotta sci fi stuff dropping in the next 12 months, it's kinda wild
glass plinth
First thing i want to do is settle that desert world I saw. I want a base there so bad
I love deserts
sleek cloud
also being able recruit a crew is pretty cool
glass plinth
Yeah , did you see that polar base?
austere lance
I need all the sci fi, including space horror stuff like Callisto Protocol and Dead Space remake 😌
sleek cloud
probably gotta assign them tasks depending on their abilities if stats like that are a thing
primal loom
Wonder how the game will handle navigation/fast travel, 1000+ planets is a lot to keep track of
sleek cloud
will do fine at 20fps 
glass plinth
Its hard to say about mechanics
primal loom
Yeah, just speculating because I'm excited lol
sleek cloud
also, how big in terms of HDD space is it gonna be
sleek cloud
was thinking more 80+
quaint escarp
enable ray trace
primal loom
A solid month for me to dl on rural net
I know the struggle, I was on dial-up and satellite until a few years ago lol
glass plinth
I dont think the engine supports rtx
sleek cloud
oh jeez
primal loom
Dial-up is just immersive astronaut connection tbh