what got me looking at the channel to begin with
#other-games
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dry copper
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I want to do this at some point https://youtu.be/l4bspWtp7bo
I like how that's the freebielancer, lol
full pivot
the only problem already with that video is the definition of "biggest open world space game"
because in terms of space its the smallest of the 3 it usually gets lumped in with
wet warren
I guess in terms of ambition 🤷♂️
glass plinth
So hit someone on a bike with a sniper rifle in cyberpunk, bike not the person
WAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So worth it
Launched the poor guy so far I lost him
dry copper
You are uninvited to my murdery christmas party with the ugly sweater theme.
static trellis
When you realize a legendary dragon can only spawn at level 78 or above.. I thought it was 68. I'm 71. 😢 Gonna have to grind to finish this.
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Etrian Odyssey?
crisp sparrow
goddamn
heavy zenith
What’s in slot 3?
static trellis
Found a way to level myself rather quickly lol. Train, steal gold, train, steal gold, etc lol. Unfortunately I already reset all my combat skills but meh, won't need to do much damage in the civil war, will have others that can help me.
Only 3 achievements left. 😁
winter yew
anyway I managed till floor 178
Fkn hell. Normally? Or staircases to 100, and from there bombs and whatnot? 😄
dry copper
goddamn
Your character does not look nearly as badass as your gear implies. Are you trying to get that cyberpunk gear feeling in Stardew Valley?
...Or the female chest armor paradox
Gozilla Vs. Kong, Starring......
FUCKING TARZAN!
aka: Alexander Skarsgård
austere lance
He's Flagg in the new adaptation of The Stand
dry copper
Is that good or bad?
winter yew
ah it ate my text, rip.
but ye, can't get the fkn metro to run. 😄
perfect, everything about the loading stuck at 12 was common enough to be a researched phrase, but not common enough to give any particular info.
and what little there is, it's all for consoles. hmm.
safe mode also doesn't work. well I'm out of ideas.
dry copper
Weird. Not really enjoying the gameplay for Shadow of War.
It didn't help when I first installed it, it came pre-installed with promotions for DLC and upgrades and an apology from the devs for their item store
There are more currencies than I care to deal with
Played less than it took to download and install it, before I already regretted it.
austere lance
Yeah the Mordor games just felt like an Arkham skin with a worse story
dry copper
I like Stardew valley, but I hate its combat. I hate how you swing in the direction you're facing and not in the direction the cursor is unless you keep the cursor right up your arse
winter yew
ok new idea
apparently defender was eating 100% of my disc drive.
let's see if the save can be loaded without that
😐
well what do you know.
Still amazed how good this fkn thing looks.
on lowest possible settings.
Prolly why it at times works worse than Cyberpunk for me. 😄
fervent fog
dry copper
well what do you know.
I couldn't get back into that game. I hate the gear management system. It felt tedious af
Clean your gun, craft your ammo, fix your mask...ffs. No wonder the soviet union collapsed.
😛
austere lance
Metro Exodus?
dry copper
It reminded me of that shooter game where you have to do everything yourself.
Yes that's Metro Exodus above
austere lance
Tbh I really wanted to like Exodus cuz I love the first two games but......no. Just no, lol
dry copper
I don't like the direction they went with the game design. They went from being a survival in a post apocalyptic world to "asshole in a post apocalyptic world"
Making it tedious doesn't add to the survival elements. Jump scares don't make it scarier
austere lance
👏 bigger 👏 isn't 👏 always 👏 better 👏
dry copper
I hate jump scares. They're the cheapest form of scaring imaginable.
It's like the game designers went and got their fear ideas from a haunted house clown car ride.
austere lance
I liked the first two games being linear but big enough to explore a bit, Exodus is just empty. Plus it's still way too buggy for a game that's a couple years old
dry copper
The voice acting is good tho
Animations are nice.
Graphics are top notch
I'm just not into lipstick on a horse.
winter yew
Well that was weird.
Electric anomaly just kinda pursued these 2 mutants, and fried them.
viral token
only played Exodus on the Xbox and loved it, its the first game I've played I have the other 2 just not got around to playing them, was going to get it on the PC but its on the list
crisp sparrow
Fkn hell. Normally? Or staircases to 100, and from there bombs and whatnot? 😄
staircase spam to 100 and then bombing the place with +14 luck in total
crisp sparrow
Your character does not look nearly as badass as your gear implies. Are you tryi...
lmao I'm wearing a beanie and a sweater
cuz winter
cinder vessel
Cool art...And has a demo!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1280750/Aquamarine/
heavy zenith
That’s neat
silver sparrow
lmao I'm wearing a beanie and a sweater
but do you have striped mittens
silver sparrow
Cool art...*And* has a demo!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1280750/Aquamari...
i'm intrigued
glass plinth
Im intriguied too!
Leon, thats a great find!
I love exploration games, especially in the water
inland path
dry copper
How can you tell someone's a vegan? They'll tell you.
"All of our burgers are made with grass-fed beef now"
What the fuck were you feeding these cows before, Dave?
The meat industry has turned what was a vegan trope into their god damn sales pitch!
wet warren
Pretty clever tbh
bold crag
jesus, these ED pirates are getting better and better
polar peak
bold crag
first they are cocky and now they get random names, this is beautifull
i had a pirate that was named captain sparrow
and now, this dude
like, come on
you cant make this up
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Character trait: GUNS
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Cool art...*And* has a demo!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1280750/Aquamari...
That better feature a yellow submarine
austere lance
I uh, don't think this is supposed to happen in a Batman game 🤣
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first they are cocky and now they get random names, this is beautifull
The random names are hilarious
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I uh, don't think this is supposed to happen in a Batman game 🤣
BATMAN NEVER KILLS. EVEN WITH A CANNON
austere lance
Dude has an S shape, LMAO
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How can you tell someone's a vegan? They'll tell you.
"All of our burgers are ma...
Umm, Corn, usually
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Dude has an S shape, LMAO
An S pose? Better than a T pose
The trouble with vegan diets is that they're extremely hard to balance nutrition for, and they tend to be rather expensive on top
As it turns out, humans are actually omnivores, and meant to eat a variety of food sources that include animals
A reasonable vegetarian diet at least includes non... fatal?.. animal products like cheese, or sometimes fish
keen dome
THink thats pescatarian
when you include fish
Which doesn't make sense at least in the USA because people say "Oh I am vegetarian! I don't eat meat, only fish."
keen dome
@bright knot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPdSbklW_5I 😛
bright knot
pog
pink girl seems excited
they just killed that lizard
oh nvm
oh hekk a manticore
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Which doesn't make sense at least in the USA because people say "Oh I am vegetar...
Blame religion
Bible logic: Things that can move around on land: Animals
Things that can move around in water: Fish
Things that can fly: Birds
I applaud the beginnings of classification, but it leaves a lot to be desired
Also, look what I found!
https://open.spotify.com/track/2cTrSnaPH3Vc2Ud7yOBSFO?si=0LOiNtWyS4S-NqsZtHgHFA
austere lance
I'm playing Metro 2033 Redux on Survival mode, this oughtta be interesting
We're going full immersion, lads. Russian dialogue 
dry copper
I uh, don't think this is supposed to happen in a Batman game 🤣
I think he's dead Jim
glass plinth
Wait, i can just jump over the fence in cyberpunk and never died
Man, this is just weird. Deshawn never kills me, I walk away with a boat load of cash and most of the storylines not linked to the main story keep on going
LOl freeform mode i guess
dry copper
Yeah I did that but the main story is dead from there on out and yeah...no other stories that progress off the main branch trigger.
Also, I don't recall it ever the date and time of day changes
I seem to recall going to bed and waking up in the exact same time and weather etc as that moment
dry copper
We're going full immersion, lads. Russian dialogue <a:gandalf:410923319223910411...
No hablo russian-blow
glass plinth
hrmm
Mine must be minorly bugged, some of my stories are progressing
Just not the main
dry copper
Bugs...in Cyberpunk? No wai
cinder vessel
geraldo would never allow it
glass plinth
Hehe, i wont lie, most of the bugs I have, havent been bad at all
Most of them are actually more amusing then harmful
Frankly love the game so damned much
daring spear
sleek cloud
been messing around with Geforce now the past couple of days and i have to say i'm really impressed by it. First tried it on a PC then tablet and it was so smooth with very minimal input lag. Was quite surreal playing Cyberpunk on a tablet 🙂
bold crag
i think it might be time for me to leave the pilot federation district in ED
i get the feeling that i have been there long enough
silver sparrow
Use the force Luke
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Something to look forward to this weekend.
What game?
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@bold crag fly out and explore for money 😛
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bold crag
best situation was when i was fined 200 CR and i just flew into the station and they where like "we can't take the bounty until you pay the fine" so i paid the fine and could finally claim my 2mill CR in bounties
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Have they balanced that to stop giving fer-de-lance missions to Harmless players?
bold crag
what are fer-de-lance missions
bold crag
hmm haven't had a fer-de-lance pirate yet
the toughest ships i fought are cobras mk3
but cobras are also the best ship available in the systems around me, so maybe that's why
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ROAR OF FRIENDSHIP
willow crypt
scary pig dragon
playing FO76, i just got approached by a robot who’s one duty is to insult me. insulted me and walked away
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Haha
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playing FO76, i just got approached by a robot who’s one duty is to insult me. i...
Now I'm imagining a cuss-o-gram
"Hi, are you Jim Houston?"
"Yes?"
"You're an asshole! You're a prude! You should swim in fire nude!"
static trellis
It is done, I've 100% Skyrim Special Edition with no mods (not even the unofficial patch) or using console commands aside from using it to fix bugs, lol.
silver sparrow
you re-ramped from lv25 to 71?
static trellis
Oh no for that I had to reload to my lvl 25 save to complete a quest to do an achievement.
After that quest was done went back to my main save, haha.
bold crag
i was about to say, without using the console at all would be pretty hard with all those bugs
static trellis
Yeah for sure, no that quest is incomplete on my main save, but in an alternate timeline it's done haha.
So technically not all on a single save, but a single character. 😂
silver sparrow
marty, we're going back...to the future!
willow crypt
"Hi, are you Jim Houston?"
"Yes?"
"You're an asshole! You're a prude! You should...
ha, similar
bold crag
so i took the explore the galaxy quest and tapped show on the galaxy map and the game chrashed
must be a long route
bold crag
uhm this mission awards 3 slaves upon completion
willow crypt
nice congrats!
austere lance
I don't think I can play Metro in English ever again, the Russian voice actors are soooooooo much better 😍
broken prairie
I love that i can understand them
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I see I'm getting to the part of persona 4 where the "SMT Fuck You" kicks in
Walls give elemental immunity to other enemies, re patra heals party status effects, and tetrakarn reflects physical attacks
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Ahh yes, parties that punish hit-all skills by reflecting each others' weaknesses
winter yew
I see I'm getting to the part of persona 4 where the "SMT Fuck You" kicks in
vita ❤️
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different games, nicer screen
oh shit, I didn't realize that Space Assault is a Starfox-style game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fNLy6ts8x8
and It's $9
winter yew
bruh its a port of an Apple Arcade game, and it shoots for you
raven frost
I need to dig my vita out at some point, that was a fun console
shame it wasn't meant for this world
winter yew
I don't normally refer to reviews but I've seen plenty of streamers playing it and everything in this review is pretty spot-on..
the pre-alpha gameplay trailer look MUCH more interesting and engaging than the release version.
very odd to see it go from that, to what it is now.
glass plinth
Bah, I want to play Everspace
waiting for everspace 2 to be out of early access though
Meanwhile, I am back in ED now, doing high gravity races
FRICKING MISSED THAT!
I fly on a world with 4.2g, so its very weighty. You gota use the right ship or your screwed.
Any of you ever do that?
raven frost
never tried it unfortunately, sounds fun though
dry copper
Staxel ftw
dry copper
That's fair.
cinder vessel
No it's not
dry copper
They have to compete with cheaters ruining the leaderboards.
cinder vessel
Who cares about leaderboards that much
dry copper
Offline cheating in hitman is almost a staple
What is the advantage of playing online?
full pivot
the unlocks are gameplay related.
winter yew
Being at a disadvantage in a single player game cause you're offline is fucked up.
cinder vessel
The worst part here is the inability to earn unlocks, that completely wrecks it for folks with finicky connections
dry copper
Ah.
austere lance
You literally can't unlock anything or progress in the game without an internet connection
full pivot
biggest example is there's a 3rd party website that lets you set up random challenges but without all the unlocks you can't actually follow what it asks
cinder vessel
I guess you could maybe still finish it without unlocks? But it's doubtful that's how they designed it to be played
dry copper
I wish I could kill bugs instead of just capture them in staxel.
full pivot
finish it but it lacks the same replayability later
dry copper
Unlocks are achievements or do they include actual features?
cinder vessel
Literally equipment
full pivot
equipment and starting locations and such
dry copper
...Equipment is locked behind an online connection for a single player offline game lol
full pivot
"start embedded as kitchen staff" for example
cant do any sniper challenges without the sniper rifle which is unlockable
its honestly one of the most limiting things for me with Hitman 2 cuz i really like the game
austere lance
Weapons, gadgets, items, starting locations, escape routes, etc are all locked to an online connection. And levels don't acknowledge that they've been completed offline
In a singleplayer game
Also, if you're in the middle of a level and your connection drops it'll pause your fuckin game and ask you to either search for a connection or quit to the main menu
cinder vessel
It's really just always online DRM but because the game is almost universally hailed not enough folks give a shit to call it out
bronze wind
people call it out, but large numbers of people also buy it anyway lol so there's zero incentive for them to change it
austere lance
Yeah the games are critically acclaimed and loved by millions, so I doubt IO will ever change shit. Can't wait for them to turn 007 into episodic online nonsense too 
bronze wind
i like watching other people play. tried to play the first one a few times (got it free from something, don't remember what) and I am just so hopelessly bad at it
austere lance
The games themselves are fun af, which is why the online bullshit is so annoying 😭
bronze wind
they'd be more fun if I could fuck around more without feeling like I'm doing it wrong lol, but I get that what I want out of it is different from what it's meant to be
austere lance
Hitman 2 is top tier Hitman, absolutely stupid amount of ways to kill people. And it has objectives you can toggle if you want some guidance
bronze wind
just every aspect of the game stresses me out constantly so i can't play it for long at all and usually just end up doming someone with a crowbar then jumping off a ledge to find a disguise before i get killed
cinder vessel
add to that the connection bullshit and the anxiety gets even worse
finally get into the groove but then...connection lost
fffffuuuu
bronze wind
i hate it a lot but personally don't have the problems with connection instability so it hasn't actively affected my experience
but yeah it's stupid
"but leaderboards" ok so just make a challenge mode that's online only or something
cinder vessel
The worst is if the issue finds itself on their end
bronze wind
of course
cinder vessel
Nothing you can do with that but wait on them
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Who was it in here that bought gamestop stock?
Apparently it's up rather significantly
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Hitman 2 is top tier Hitman, absolutely stupid amount of ways to kill people. An...
Hitman 2 or Hitman 2?
austere lance
Ugh, Metro 2033 Redux is buggy hell
glass plinth
Huh, so apparently a friend of mine found a smuggling quest that wasnt supposed to be available in Cyberpunk, that worked, up until you finish it
He said it was flipping fun as hell, trying to dodge cops and such.
Here is the bit I find interesting, the cops had complex behaviours , as scripted elements.
I guess it must have been part of a scrapped ai module for them, not surprising by any means
Gota say smuggling sounds fun though
austere lance
Fuck it, I'm tired of 2033's bullshit. I'm switching to Last Light Redux
austere lance
They're damn good, the first one is just buggy
There's probably mods that patch it
I highly recommend playing them with their native Russian dialogue and subtitles, much more immersive
willow crypt
would be nice though i'm not fond of story-focused video games with heavy dialogue that makes me read while i play, distracting me from everything else
my opinion would be opposite of that if it was a series
austere lance
They're more survival-horror than story games, especially if you choose Survival mode on Ranger Hardcore difficulty 😆
Like, it's linear but you're definitely not just running around shooting shit unless you're on a really easy difficulty or have a death wish
Holy Christ, Last Light is SO MUCH nicer to play
cinder vessel
survival horror games have story, checkMATE 
willow crypt
i played them for the story and character building
austere lance
I mean, I do like the story. But they're definitely not story-based games with heavy dialogue 😆
I'm weird and play em for the stealth
Sneaky breeky
willow crypt
yeah, i enjoyed using some stealth, though too much gets on my nerves. it is about survival, but i'd kinda say it's not a full survival game. unless you're playing on hard or something
cinder vessel
survival horror games are the original survival game tbh
willow crypt
i suppose so
when i think of survival now, i think of those games that heavily rely on resources and building and whatever
in metro, you just need ammo and breathing filters
cinder vessel
survival horror relied on resources too tho! You'd be managing ammo & medkits/herbs/etc.
So in a way, Metro is like the old games
willow crypt
yar just not as heavily imo
austere lance
If you're a masochist you play on Survival mode (it makes everything hit harder and you find less resources) on Hardcore Ranger difficulty (basically Realism mode. No HUD so you have to count bullets yourself and everyone can kill everything VERY quickly. Including you, lol)
willow crypt
i need to play Exodus's DLCs
glass plinth
Man, survival games go way back
willow crypt
yeah that'd stress me out, Soul
glass plinth
I remember Robisons Requiem
That was BRUTAL
Having to cut your own leg off to survive a infection, or many worse things.
austere lance
I tried doing regular Ranger difficulty once, counting bullets is a pain in the ass 🤣
willow crypt
doesn't sound fun
glass plinth
Frankly survival games are among my favorite games.
glass plinth
I actually prefer spears. Good range, throwable.
austere lance
Yeah, Ranger difficulty is meant to be played with silenced weapons and stealth takedowns
cinder vessel
first-person melee tho is...Oof
glass plinth
You get used to it of course.
cinder vessel
Very few first-person games handle melee well
glass plinth
I sorta love it, IF the ai is good
If the ai is bad, its sorta... depressing
I like ai that can properly dodge, take up a good positon, trick you
austere lance
I liked Dishonored's melee combat
cinder vessel
Zeno Clash is another decent example
glass plinth
Of course!
Dishonored was badadss
Seriously one of the best melee systems Ive ever experienced
Add that to Cyberpunk and frick Id be happy
ha, I have been having a fun time with tripping people in Cyberpunk
willow crypt
how u do dat
glass plinth
Knock someone out, set the body down just right, run into a room and grab everyones attention, run around the corner, watch them all trip over the body.
Its downright funny
winter yew
Sup
glass plinth
They all died...
willow crypt
lol
glass plinth
Like lemmings.
Frankly, now that I think about it, a tripline item would be a blast
winter yew
Also guys, if y’all could help me decide which pfp is better, I posted some I made in #nms-photomode-gallery
willow crypt
yeah first
winter yew
Aight thanks for letting me know
willow crypt
though the mods will probably take those down
willow crypt
nms screenshot
winter yew
Ohhh
glass plinth
haha
winter yew
Lol
glass plinth
Oopsie
glass plinth
Colorful one
winter yew
Oh ok
glass plinth
Raaagh, Im testing a game, seeing the minecraft guy made me think of it
I want to talk about it, but i cant
Fuck nda's
Well, except, I sorta get nda
shrug
austere lance
I wonder if the ||young Dark One|| has a good Russian voice actor in this 
willow crypt
does it even talk
austere lance
Yes? Quite a bit
willow crypt
can't remember
austere lance
He talks a ton in the last few levels of Last Light
austere lance
Dark Ones, the unhappy spirits, etc are all cool
glass plinth
I thought they were more or less psychic mutatns
Not bad guys even
From what little i remember
Gah, I want to get home so bad and continue off where I ended up in Cyberpunk.
austere lance
I love the atmosphere of these games 💕
willow crypt
yes
glass plinth
Hrmm, I really should get red dead 2
I watched my friend playing it and absolutely adored the gameplay
The long distance horse rides, fishing, hunting and whatnot
willow crypt
gotta get back into that one too
austere lance
I hope the first Red Dead Redemption gets ported to PC someday so y'all can experience it, I loved it way more than the sequel
glass plinth
I own that one actually
Apparently RDR3 is deep into development
Actually, that reminds me. I need to check in on friends over in the UK. See what they are working on. Last time I talked to them was back before the big diversity dlc for NMS
dry copper
So. I hear that Star Citizen deleted a planet.
raven frost
what?
raven frost
who fuckin knows
all I know is that this possibly means they're getting ready to put out a new system
... finally
dry copper
How big is the universe in SC? Is it too unstable to finish the game?
I wonder if they just don't have the server architecture even with everything they've done to build this thing to scale.
I'm guessing they don't
raven frost
I remember the number being like 100 systems, but that was a long time ago
glass plinth
Well thats what they had been working on the last year and a half
The way the server ran early on, it was a nightmare having multiple systems
They are borderline close to being able to now.
A lot of the server Architecture was tacked together, at first, just to get a decent game test going.
austere lance
How big is the universe in SC? Is it too unstable to finish the game?
The game is supposed to be Elite Dangerous size, but the alphas are like one star system 😆
glass plinth
Pretty much
I mean it does work a hell of a lot better then early release
Since the product is in constant flux, your always going to have crashes and bugs, for some time to come.
Its just not worth squashing bugs relating to engine design, when the design is changing rapidly
I would say, once they iron out cross system architecture, you can just scale up
raven frost
it's a shame seeing levski disappear for a while though, easily one of my favorite places to explore
dry copper
Elite Dangerous is looking better and better
austere lance
I wonder what the Star Citizen devs are gonna do when ED Odyssey drops and basically steals their game out from under them, lol
dry copper
Star Citizen has enough investment to hold it floating for years without ever making a cent.
glass plinth
ED is more or less a product which is released, whereas SC isnt
austere lance
It's just gonna be embarrassing, they're the same thing but one is actually playable 😆
glass plinth
Well, HAD
raven frost
I don't think it'll steal SC from underneath them lol, I imagine odyssey's gonna be somewhat disappointing
glass plinth
I never expect anything but bare minimum from ED.
Itll be another very basic set of additions
progress though on a functional system
austere lance
From the gameplay I've watched of both they're basically the same thing, lol
dry copper
I expect Odyssey to come out like a wet fart. A smell nobody wanted. A feeling nobody asked for - but a fart none the less. It'll be shit to start and they'll drop a deuce a few months after once they've had time to add fiber to their diet.
austere lance
I do like how you can get your friends together and attack a ground base from on foot, in the air, and in a rover
raven frost
if I learned anything from Horizons, Odyssey will be very barebones
dry copper
Once Odyssey is done though, will they add to the game to add content or just continue dicking around with concepts? Ooooh, you played on foot...NOW PLAY AS A BUG in ....Elite Dangerous: Grounded
austere lance
I also like how you can turn a ground base attack into a big elaborate thing where someone sneaks in on foot, hacks the defenses, then calls in their friends in ships and/or rovers
glass plinth
Well, they already have other content slated and in development for whats never
I mean ED is slow and steady
What really irked me was what happened at frontier with money.
I wont get to much into details, but, I dont like the devs for reasons besides game development.
dry copper
I don't like the idea of buying space ships with real money
glass plinth
No reason to like it.
dry copper
If I buy a game, I expect to get the game...Not get dicked with for buying it.
austere lance
Oof, $27k for the most expensive ship pack in SC
dry copper
You know why, right?
austere lance
And by ship pack I mean concept art that you pray is actually gonna be in the game
dry copper
They ran early test models for financial backing to see how "hungry" their investors were for the game.
All prices are based on the whales that invested early and stuck it out.
austere lance
None of this should surprise anyone, I've posted about Roberts' scummy past before
Dude suspiciously avoided jail for some scheme but his business partner got arrested. I wonder how that happened 😉
dry copper
Don't be surprised to find this development team completely implode and the entire project turn into vaporware.
glass plinth
I would imagine it would go the way of freelancer
dry copper
Am I supposed to know that way?
glass plinth
Which was his game as well, until I believe it was microsoft canned him.
Basically game got sold off, finished
Freelancer was a game he wanted to be like SC, and he would have sucked infinite money to make it
But they wouldnt let him
Then he crowdfunded, because he figured the public was easier to achieve what he wanted
cinder vessel
Mainly 'cause it was their money he woulda been taking
glass plinth
Yup
cinder vessel
Whereas yeah, the public is an easier mark
glass plinth
Frankly, he wanted to prove without limits he can make what he wanted, however, he never really said, within reason
He is a lousy developer in that sense
dry copper
In every sense
glass plinth
Its not like the product doesnt have meritable elements.
austere lance
Imma post it again, lol. His history with Microsoft is in here too. Be warned, it's a phat article
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2019/05/01/exclusive-the-saga-of-star-citizen-a-video-game-that-raised-300-millionbut-may-never-be-ready-to-play/
glass plinth
Well it is a service based game
So it has no obligation to finish
LOl
that is always funny to me when people say finish, in a service based product
its not how it works
Never has been, never will be
Not many service based games are able to net that much though
dry copper
Service based....It's about as service based as a poorly cooked dinner on kitchen nightmares.
glass plinth
Pretty much
willow crypt
at the end of the day, there's really no wrong way to do something. it depends on how the game devs work
glass plinth
But under the law, it offers him a lot of protections
legally
Its stupid
shrugs
dry copper
How does it protect him from antitrust lawsuits?
cinder vessel
There's a bunch of wrong ways to do something when it involves other ppl tho. This isn't some hobbyist project, after all
austere lance
I forgot Roberts has a producer credit in Lord of War 🤣
glass plinth
Yup
I mean, roberts isnt completely inept. He can get ideas into a state of prouction, he just is a egotist as well and never finishes much
austere lance
glass plinth
His work on Wing Commander was actually pretty damned good
But he was on a tight leash
austere lance
He married some insane stalker who tried to kill him in his own home 🤣
glass plinth
Bu yeah, I fully expect the game to be passed on to some pour soul someday and die a slow death.
I dont really find that relavent Sound.
austere lance
@cinder vessel Read the article, it's gold 😆
This dude shouldn't be allowed to manage a damn tea party, much less a huge game
glass plinth
welp, he is, and he can
Until he cant
Lol
Such is the life of game development
Thats one reason I loved Will Wright.
Absolutely accountable, creative, stable, kind and brilliant.
Achievers among devs with all those traits are rare.
austere lance
dry copper
Another crazy developer: Richard Garriott
glass plinth
Oh man!
met him 3 times!
Garriot is so funny, a bit of a pompous asshole compared to Will, but still a good dev in some rights.
dry copper
When I was testing for Tabula Rasa, he used to log in on his character and kill everyone like an asshole
glass plinth
lol
dry copper
Fuck Lord British
glass plinth
Fucking hate that game ran intot he issues it did
Wasnt really his fault at the end.
Investor issue killed it and .. well it was what it was.
Im just glad Will Wright jumped ship after spore
He runs a amazing education program on games now.
dry copper
The only thing I liked about Tabula Rasa when all was said and done...The language system.
cinder vessel
leadership roles seem to be the best way to catch assholes, lmao
dry copper
The concept of learning a language in furtherance of the story
cinder vessel
so Roberts is delusional. great.
dry copper
Sociopaths being successful? No wai
austere lance
Lol
dry copper
Star Citizen is playable. At least it's not Cyberpunk
- Chris Roberts probably
austere lance
You don't even know, he's batshit. Read the article, he's been spouting shit for over a decade
glass plinth
LOl
cinder vessel
someone should start a fake leadership conference/convention to draw out the assholes so we can just exile them somewhere and let them sort out their delusions of grandeur or something
glass plinth
Then you have devs who make games like star dew valley
So many good devs, out there.
dry copper
someone should start a fake leadership conference/convention to draw out the ass...
That was already tried. It was called the Fyre Festival.
glass plinth
Thats why I love doing QA work for game studios.
A lot , most of the games I test, never release.
It would make people cry to see what hasnt made it
cinder vessel
That was already tried. It was called the Fyre Festival.
nah that was the celebrity con
dry copper
minus celebrities
cinder vessel
celebrity/"influencer" con or wannabe rich or whatever
dry copper
My favorite dev so far is very little known.
cinder vessel
Klei & Supergiant come to mind as known names being decent
glass plinth
KLEI!
Fuck yeah!
Ok, Ill sign up for that, they rock
Subnautica's devs
VERY transparent
Always good
cinder vessel
If you think of the studio before any specific devs, there's a decent chance they might be alright, excluding AAA studios
Excluding AAA only 'cause they're so stupidly big it's hard to keep track of individuals working at them, so doesn't apply
glass plinth
hehe
Yeah, its true
A bit like cyberpunk for me. The game itself is fucking fun, clearly some of the elements were made by passionate good devs, while other elements were fucked up
Even ark was like that
Then you got kerbals
Probably my favorite game of all time, bad devs there, good ones too
ED, same
No Mans sky
Phew
I could totally go off on NMS as far as what they fail miserably at, yet, its not all bad.
dry copper
https://www.orthogonalgames.com/
I spoke with the developer Kent Hudson very briefly shortly after he released "The Novelist"...and the man is a fucking genius.
This was the game they released last.
austere lance
That just makes me want a game adaptation of The Thing, lol
glass plinth
Of all the devs, for me, the lovliest were Will Wright and a fellow by the name of Chen who did the UI for half the games in the 90s
Chen was BRILLIANT at UI and a completely lovely man, didnt make a ton of money until he quite game design
Now he runs a UIX firm with billions
Man, youd laugh if you saw him rip into bad game UI now.
dry copper
If you ever get a nice hour to sit down and listen to the ramblings of a programmer talking about game development....
glass plinth
Ive seen that!
😄
Speaking of semi crazy random stories
Been watching my friend play that and the stories are fucking hilarious
He has this hero called Maldrag. The Chicken Knight.
Seriously, it is absolutely beyond words how funny and absolutely absurd and yet believable the story is, about a fellow who.. is a chicken, who became a knight.
Instead of a prince turned to a frog, its a chicken, who got turned to a human, and somehow became a knight.
dry copper
Because reasons
austere lance
They...Tried that
Yeah but I want a new one, lol. Survival game with a story where you're trying to kill the damned thing and save everyone while working with other survivors who may or may not be it in disguise
glass plinth
Id like to be... alone
I want a survival game, with very little for constrast
Stark survival
Yet to find a survival game besides one set on mars to scratchthat itch
cinder vessel
Isn't that another game that's perpetually in-dev
austere lance
Kinda
glass plinth
Sorta, its done enough to call it done
Its chapter based though, so itll keep growing.
dry copper
Survival in The Long Dark is unmatched.
cinder vessel
-checks, story is still unfinished-
dry copper
Story in The Long Dark is unfinished.
cinder vessel
So it's Kentucky Route Zero-paced
glass plinth
Not a bad thing in a episodic game.
austere lance
I think most people play it for the survival mode
cinder vessel
-stares in HL2-
dry copper
cinder vessel
i mean isn't the survival still another meter-management thing?
dry copper
I like staxel for chill.
No survival. Hell....You can rig the profit system so you don't even need to farm to profit
glass plinth
Yup
dry copper
Being killed by animals
dry copper
The only thing The Long Dark is missing is a sanity meter.
glass plinth
ha
dry copper
Where you start hearing and seeing things
glass plinth
Although, our own sanity may wear thing at times.
Hrmm, this game Im testing is working on ecosystems
You start on a bare place, and slowly introduce ecological elements, so the landscape varies in each playthrough
Rather interesting.
cinder vessel
the problem with meters is when it's just the meters and there's not much they really influence besides your health or whatever going down when they deplete
cinder vessel
The only thing The Long Dark is missing is a sanity meter.
and for that, you have Don't Starve
glass plinth
You dont eat, you move slower and dont heal
Dont stay warm, you experience different issues
Actually yeah, Long dark nails it i guess
it feels like real life.
dry copper
In the long dark the shit you put in your backpack makes noise meaning you can't sneak around with a backpack full of cans.
glass plinth
Frost bite impedes motion
well, ok, cold affects everything in some way
That attention to detail is pretty neat
cinder vessel
can you put your backpack in water and let it freeze to reduce noise
dry copper
Sure but you're not coming up after you jump in.
cinder vessel
no i mean you dip the backpack in
glass plinth
LOl, not quite that detailed.
cinder vessel
lol game logic, "how do you put item in volume?" "DIVE IN WITH IT ON"
dry copper
No. I don't think they anticipated people carrying ice boxes
cinder vessel
the icebox would contribute to frostbite
glass plinth
Plus cracking ice makes noice
cinder vessel
or frozen bag
dry copper
Hell. Footprints in the snow make noise...animals can track you.
cinder vessel
the more realistic alternative might be to gather up leaves to muffle the noise
glass plinth
The best way is take the fucking bag off
cinder vessel
pack it between the backpack objects
But then you have to be sure you can find it again
cinder vessel
Or that an animal doesn't take it
glass plinth
Truthfully, that kind of detail is refreshing.
cinder vessel
Although I'm guessing that may be another not that kind of detail thing
glass plinth
Of course IRL if im hiking and I put my bad down
Say in montana, with bears, I use rope
cinder vessel
Unless the animals can take your bags 👀
dry copper
I can't remember if you can throw knives in TLD
glass plinth
I usually lash the bag with rope, about 12 feet up
Easy enough to do
Though a bear did try to knock the tree over once
Damned grizzlies are tough bastards
Three items Id never drop
My pepper spray, my rifle and my food pack
Thats in real life of course
dry copper
In fake life you're all about dropping rifles.
cinder vessel
lol
i don't know where all these rifles keep coming from so i just keep dropping them, RIFLE WORLD
dry copper
I can just see Jahnri's cyberpunk playthrough
"Rifle sucks." toss
big pile of rifles
cinder vessel
games with guns as loot are like a gun nut's dream world
just endless guns
wait
in Enter the Gungeon was the dungeon in fact a giant gun?
glass plinth
My weapon of choice is a assault rigle in Cyberpunk
Slow loader
9 shots.
High impact rounds.
I LOVE they have different kinds of assault rifles, not just bullet spewers
Like coming down the tower in the mission with jacking, 3 shots took out any solider
Mind you the mech... I ran
That was outside my leaugh
Sorry for typos, hands are so damned cold
dry copper
I hate that enemies can take multiple headshots without dying
If I fire what is comparable to the games version of a 50 cal at your head.....die thanks
glass plinth
Actually some enemies will say, fucking try to shoot my head? I have a titanium cranium thank you.
I laughed my ass off.
Its like... Ok fine, god damned armored skulls
makes sense for the troys, the maelstrom and such
dry copper
To get a bulletproof titanium skull, you'd need a skull thicker than an inch of titanium
cinder vessel
adamantium skull
glass plinth
Actually you wouldnt use titanium anyways.
Though there definitely would be shock absorbing materials you could use which are self repairing.
Frankly, you can get rifles with the right properties to kill most anyone with one shot.
Although its more under the umbrella or raw dmg statstics
rather then being explained through mechanics
Leave that up to a player to imagine the reasons.
dry copper
Player is like, "I can twitch forward so fast that my hand movement acts as a multiplier for bullets"
cinder vessel
totally different subject, but hear me out:
pop with positive vibes but the aggressive energy of metal
I'm sure it's out there but I'm not sure how to search for it
winter yew
totally different subject, but hear me out:
pop with positive vibes but the aggr...
Soo Amaranthe
dry copper
Does it matter if the pop metal is Christian music?
I hear they've been trying to break into the industry for a while
winter yew
whodat
cinder vessel
Nono, just has that punchiness of metal but not sounding like metal
dry copper
Shitty pop metal bands like POD
static trellis
Bah, I want to play Everspace
Everspace is great, though I do wish it relied less on the consumables you can craft. Otherwise? Top notch.
winter yew
POD
cinder vessel
So it would sound like pop music, but hit a bit harder
winter yew
you're kidding that they didnt get big
when their songs BOOM and YOUTH OF THE NATION were overplayed to the point where I got sick of them
cinder vessel
I don't know how to describe what I'm thinking of 'cause I don't know that I've heard anything like it, lol
dry copper
dry copper
I'm a mirror you see. Look at me looking at you looking at me. Now go pee because I can't rhyme anything with pee.
fking hate cheap rhyming schemes in this machined music.
winter yew
no, thats just what pops up on youtube
because the music video itself is pixelated as fuck
dry copper
Ah
That's interesting.
I thought youtube kept saying there was some sort of band called Topic
cinder vessel
i avoid music videos for the most part anyway tbh
visual brook
totally different subject, but hear me out:
pop with positive vibes but the aggr...
Try Voyager. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reFRCJzHN8I
For bands that aren't metal, but still have that same "energy", you could also try Thank You Scientist.
Or, if you're willing to be a little adventurous, Ron Thal or Freak Kitchen.
Freak Kitchen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2vzBdIejVY
winter yew
Or, if you're willing to be a little adventurous, Ron Thal or Freak Kitchen.
Fr...
FREAK KITCHEN
❤️
heavy zenith
what a gorgeous car that voyager video has
they're having so much fun playing music, too
visual brook
Wouldn't guess that I'd meet a FK fan on an on NMS discord xD
heavy zenith
i have a playlist full of music that i never tell another living soul i enjoy
winter yew
Wouldn't guess that I'd meet a FK fan on an on NMS discord xD
I love all kinds of music (except hardcore rap and country) :p
visual brook
I was also going to suggest recent Leprous, but then you want upbeat stuff (which they aren't)
heavy zenith
this FK video is gorgeous, too. who even is this?
austere lance
i have a playlist full of music that i never tell another living soul i enjoy
Is that Hello Kitty song Avril Lavigne did on there
austere lance
Oh god
heavy zenith
also the circus song from Paprika
tonight the stars collide, etc
uncool things that either used to be cool or didn't, but i so do not care because i like them
heavy zenith
oh great now i have two songs playing
thanks computer
OH THIS SONG
omg thank you
austere lance
🤣
visual brook
I love all kinds of music (except hardcore rap and country) :p
I like to believe there's something worthwhile in every genre, but one thing I just can't enjoy is hardcore (or its variants, like metalcore).
heavy zenith
i have a terrible time with hiphop, since i can't follow words in any music very well at all and that makes it a really hard disconnect
if we all liked all music it'd be as boring as toast
loud slate
https://youtu.be/LiaYDPRedWQ
at first glance at that name, I thought of either Arissa Lavigny-Duval or Aisling Lavigny-Duval from Elite Dangerous
austere lance
Lol
heavy zenith
https://youtu.be/LiaYDPRedWQ
and anyways also on that playlist is the entire album "Turn off the Lights" by Kim Petras
it's definitely the weird pile
sing like an onion! enjoy 🙂
visual brook
this FK video is gorgeous, too. who even is this?
It's from a guy named Juanjo Guarnido
https://twitter.com/jjguarnido/status/542374509785776129
Twitter
cinder vessel
Checking some of this stuff. Was digging through my existing music to see if I could find anything sorta close to what I'm thinking of
visual brook
Ah, yeah.. forgot to include links to Thank you Scientist. The guitarist in this band (Tom Monda) used to take lessons from Ron Thal (insane guitar virtuoso who also played for GNR).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKKWQEpS8hI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxrz6RPSww0
dry copper
I still hope Anthem comes back strong
I don't like games as a service, but the game looked fun
cinder vessel
lmao to that video thumbnail
silver sparrow
My poor console
coarse swift
austere lance
Play Ashen 👀
cinder vessel
Or Nioh 1 or 2
glass plinth
When your drunk and kill everyone as torb in ow
GLORIOUSSSSS!
I kept jumping like a madman, from high spots to low, just being squirrely as fuck, other team screams, SLOW THE HELL DOWN TORB!
I feel awesome right now
austere lance
Or Nioh 1 or 2
But Ashen is pretty to look at, lol
cinder vessel
I'm just adding to the list 😛
austere lance
Ashen wins cuz it's not medieval 😆
willow crypt
medieval period games kinda bore me
austere lance
Ashen is fun cuz it was made by a New Zealand studio and has a funky Kiwi Fantasy vibe. And it was written by a Fantasy author who gave it more lore than a game its size needs 🤣
dry copper
Speaking of Ashes...I wonder how that MMORPG is doing now a days.
Ashes of Creation has been in development for a while
austere lance
When's that Remnant prequel coming out
Nvm it did
I wanna play it cuz you age a year every time you die, lol
austere lance
dry copper
So if you never die you never get those benefits?
austere lance
Yee
dry copper
I suppose they assume you don't need them
willow crypt
not sure i realized there was a Remnant prequel in development
the trailer looks a bit rough in terms of graphics and gameplay compared to Remnant
oh i see
it’s a remastered non VR version
willow crypt
cool, the enemy designs look fun
austere lance
The "aging a year when you die" thing is interesting
willow crypt
for sure
austere lance
Apparently you gotta rely on Arcane abilities to help you as you get too old to invest in the other skills
heavy zenith
when i get older / losing my hair / many years from now / will you still be sending me a remnant? fine, / arcane casting, holding the line / if i'd been out till seventy-three / would you unlock some more? / will you arcane me, passively gained tree / when i'm sixty-four
not my kind of game but at least i can hum a tune to it
willow crypt
i made my fallout 76 character about the age i’d be in that many years
actually no
id be long gone
cinder vessel
lol
austere lance
Playing Metro in Russian is fuckin hysterical cuz only main dialogue gets subtitled, so 75% of the stuff you hear is just nonsense 🤣
cinder vessel
for a split second I read Metro as Mario
austere lance
LOL
heavy zenith
willow crypt
mario in russian
austere lance
Seriously, if you aren't directly talking to someone it doesn't get subtitled. So the towns in the game are full of people saying shit you don't understand 😆
willow crypt
that’s kinda cool
heavy zenith
yeah it sounds relaxing
austere lance
More like lazy on the devs part
willow crypt
too many subtitles overlapping is stressful
heavy zenith
too many subtitles overlapping is stressful
nah, it's not that INCOMING CALL FROM DELAMAIN
austere lance
I mean, true?
heavy zenith
agreed!
i play destiny and have had the voices turned off since the first day they gave us a volume slider for it
austere lance
The entire theater session in Last Light has no subtitles. I feel like this was an oversight, lol
heavy zenith
it's so much more relaxing without having to hear them
next best thing would be a language i don't understand
willow crypt
delemain from cyberpunk?
heavy zenith
yes
willow crypt
had to look that up, haven’t played
heavy zenith
oh sorry no worries
willow crypt
np
heavy zenith
just a random stupid joke about phone calls during boss fights
willow crypt
gotcha
austere lance
Lack of subtitles aside, the voice acting is soooooo much better in Russian
willow crypt
i would assume so
austere lance
English voices were garbage in these
willow crypt
the kids
willow crypt
the grownups were fine but the children... bad
austere lance
You don't even know how bad the fake Russian accents are in the English version til you switch to actual Russian, lol
willow crypt
ha. maybe i’ll play the exodus dlc in russian if i can
austere lance
I might get Exodus and give it another try tbh
willow crypt
i think the storyline is worth it, even if the gameplay can be difficult at times
austere lance
I love the first two games, Exodus was just meh to me tho and I quit after the cult with the giant fish
willow crypt
ah yeah. the whole train journey concept really drew me in personally
very diverse environments
that fish zone is most like the original games
austere lance
The forest environment I saw in the trailers looked damn good, I just didn't get that far cuz the first areas were meh 😔
heavy zenith
maybe they took the whole Adam Driver as Young Snape meme seriously
austere lance
Lol
heavy zenith
i mean, it's not a bad idea
willow crypt
oh jeeze
heavy zenith
there was already a thriving market for snape content
willow crypt
he’s got the voice and look for it tbh
austere lance
@willow crypt Are Dark Ones and freaky spirit shit in Exodus?
heavy zenith
that would be so great
willow crypt
briefly Soul
austere lance
Hmm
But I like wandering around getting spooked, lol
There's some freaky side areas in Last Light
willow crypt
yeah. the parts in Exodus, however brief they were, were handled well. pretty cool stuff
in regards to the harry potter series, i hope it’s after the HP books
hopefully with some of the original cast
austere lance
They could finally do something with what happens after the books
willow crypt
one day i’ll read those
willow crypt
bro spoilers
dry copper
Hard to believe the guy was 70
willow crypt
he was?
dry copper
Alan Rickman was 70 when he died.
willow crypt
he looked... 40s
austere lance
I love the ambient dialogue (well, the subtitled stuff) in this when you're playing stealthy. I'm listening to two guys talk about the bridge full of Nazis and Communists you killed in the first game 😆
dry copper
Is that the new Mario game?
willow crypt
no it’s a spielberg movie
dry copper
Spielberg movies where you play stealthy?
willow crypt
yeah no maybe
dry copper
dry copper
I've prepared my body for the pain of losing John Cleese
austere lance
I'm save-scumming like a bitch trying to stealth this, lol
winter yew
Any one still play gta 5
heavy zenith
i've seen a few folks organizing a game night around it occasionally
dry copper
Lots of trolls play GTA5. If you enjoy getting touched by strangers for their own gratification through mods, hacks, and douchebaggery, lots to do in GTA online.
Nothing says fun like getting turned into a pigeon, shot into the sky and thrown into a jet liner 30k ft up
cinder vessel
Mega Man 1 out here reminding me these games seem to want you to have preternatural response times for some stuff
Thank fuck for the rewind option in the Legacy Collections. I tried way too many times trying to pull off the platforming in Guts Man's stage normally before I just said fuck it and used that.
Was always like just a second too fast or too slow for the damn things
daring spear
https://youtu.be/3ptGYk2Tyew there's just about no reason I should like this as much as I do lmao
cinder vessel
Man, this was weightier than expected.
https://haraiva.itch.io/under-a-star-called-sun
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Remember the time when Hitler was resurrected in Persona?
I kinda miss the hilariously edgy parts of 90s gaming
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..I think I need to revisit some older SMT games
I found a group podcast trying to get through the whole series
silver sparrow
yeah pretty sure my ps4 is trying to roll over and stick its legs in the air
i re-initialized it and the OS screens are sluggish
and still crashing the games i reinstalled
and i cannot put my hands on a ps5 to save my life
(not that my life is in danger)
crisp sparrow
the gang's all here
heavy zenith
fishes!
patent idol
Are any of you guys thinking of playing the open world star wars game when it comes out
heavy zenith
i was with you until you said 'open world'
patent idol
Yeah i think so
heavy zenith
'side quest boredom factory', declined, even though the idea sounds cool
patent idol
i may be wrong tho
crisp sparrow
forgot to add a couple things
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'side quest boredom factory', declined, even though the idea sounds cool
It all depends on how interesting the side quest stories are
cinder vessel
Given many AAA open world games have reduced side quests to tasks you just queue up to knock out at once...
heavy zenith
i miss mass effect, with it's not-open-world
"this area is small because it's a short side quest"
"this area is large but there's only one sensible route through it"
silver sparrow
limited effect
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"this area is small because it's a short side quest"
That worked pretty well, yeah.
A whole universe of focused story experiences
Very Open, but without the tedium of finding objectives and all that
And retracing the same zone 5000 times for different reasons
heavy zenith
yessss
balmy plaza
Anyone else looking forward to the medium?
balmy plaza
I love how the word "small" is taboo in american menus
Is it?
That's really odd haha
heavy zenith
yeah a 'small' coffee here is a 12oz
a 'cup' of tea is assumed to be a full 12oz mug, usually with only one teabag
it varies considerably once you switch from public eating to private residences, but our default for 'small' is diner mug, essentially
i think i have perhaps the only automatic coffee maker in the country that can make a single 4oz cup of coffee correctly
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You will almost never see the word "small* on a menu here
Medium usually fills the role, with some synonym for "value" for actual smalls
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i think i have perhaps the only automatic coffee maker in the country that can m...
That's a whole different linguistic quirk, that annoyed me the first time I brought a coffee maker 🙄
Bought a 4 cup coffee maker.
16oz. ???
heavy zenith
Heh.
heavy zenith
Medium usually fills the role, with some synonym for "value" for actual smalls
“Personal size”
fervent fog
"third member size"
heavy zenith
?
fervent fog
c'mon you can figure it out
heavy zenith
What!
No I seriously don’t get it
If you’re making some sort of lewd joke, just don’t explain it, but otherwise I have NFC what you mean
“Personal size fries” are what they’re called at the burger place near me
Because their regular is the size of a paper bag
I made the mistake of ordering a lot of tater tots the first time and they came on their own tray
willow crypt
glass plinth
And retracing the same zone 5000 times for different reasons
Man, the part where you mentioned retracing a large open area for different reasons, is DUE opposite of what I like in a open world.
I personally enjoy living in a world, having a daily routine. Not ever just following one path. Any rails at all, annoy the shit out of me.
Then again, I can travel a area for 4 years real life time, and never get bored. Thats not how my brain functions.