Intel is handing out Bless Unleashed closed beta keys btw
#other-games
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coarse swift
Since when do gifs play sound
keen dome
If you open original it should go to imgur I think
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Since when do gifs play sound
Since someone repackaged mp4 as gifv
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https://imgur.com/gallery/83ep50N
Point of order. That's a bathroom, not a locker room.
I like how the comments figured out what state they're in by their casual wear
heavy zenith
isn't repacking mp4 as gifv "rename .mp4 to .gifv"?
stiff dust
i cant hear sound on my end
austere lance
Lol, I got another server into a big H.R Giger discussion
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Lol, I got another server into a big H.R Giger discussion
full pivot
cinder vessel
dry copper
A little annoying that Stranded Deep is still in early access so long
That company would've flat out died if it didn't sell EA copies
dry copper
A part of me wants to get Valhalla because reasons...and then there's another part would rather take my money and save it for Vive Cosmos....torn af
Jahnri almost convinced me I don't like VR as much as I do, but I do.
VR is fun.
keen dome
I want one so bad x.x
dry copper
That tobii idea seemed compelling, but I'll be honest...The HMD isn't the selling feature that gets me with VR
It's the hands.
The VR hands.
Tobii + Valve Index controllers would be my ideal situation, if it worked together
winter yew
Development hell is a place where good ideas go to die.
keen dome
Yep
winter yew
There’s a small team of Russian game devs that were working on a car combat game in the vein of Vigilante 8 / Twisted Metal that’s basically gone silent. The game seemed like a great modern take on car combat but it’s basically dead at this point.
full pivot
I mean Stranded Deep also went up against Subnautica
winter yew
I just wish Subnautica was a little better in the optimization
Otherwise it’s a great game
keen dome
To many scary fricken underwater monsters x.x
bold crag
3/10 too much water
dry copper
I sent an email to the developers of the Tobii eye tracker, hoping to discuss the prospect of a tobii variant that can track hand controller inputs and positioning in the same vein in which they track eye movements.
Probably not something possible with the tracker alone.
Perhaps some integration with an independent positioning tracker exclusively for the controllers and positioned relative to track them
Though I wonder how disorienting it would be to see your real hands moving while the hands of your character move ingame
It would present a problem
lavish obsidian
yeah external depth sensing cameras would work well - thinking of the constellation tracking that oculus gave up in favor of built in cameras
dry copper
Your hands would get in the way of your view of things ingame
lavish obsidian
mmm, so two different overlays? what advantage would that have over simply getting position and applying it to a model ingame
because quest games with handtracking simply track your hands and make it available through the sdk without options for irl overlay
dry copper
Coding wise they could make it so when you look at your hands irl, the camera offsets a bit to view the character hands without lining it directly with your irl hands. That way the game would know that youre looking at your characters hands and not obstruct the gameplay , while still allowing you to look at your irl hands. I mean, technically it's possible to do but not sure it would feel good
lavish obsidian
yeah i'm sure a passthrough+ adjacent could do that, but not sure what benefits that would bring
dry copper
Imagine looking at your irl hands and your char looks at theirs, but then you raise your hand up to block your irl view of the game screen and it moves the orientation of the hand to face view so that in order to properly see your hand, now you have to move it out of obstructing your view
meh, the more I think about it, the less enjoyable it sound
lavish obsidian
yeah the largest issue we have with vr handtracking is.. mostly with haptics. there isn't any feedback for gripping objects or anything like that, so the universal interact action is just denoted to pinching
dry copper
Though I suppose you could have more sensitive hand controls that respond more exagerated to hand movements.
Then you could look at your irl hands and never necessarily obstruct your char view
crisp sparrow
I did it I got to lv 100 of skull cavern without cheats!
dry copper
@crisp sparrow Never heard of skull cavern
crisp sparrow
its unlocked after reaching floor 120 of the local mines
then you just go there once you unlock the bus system that can take you to the desert
balmy plaza
In surprised at how fast I forgot cyberpunk even existed tbh
dry copper
What a hot steaming pile of bullshit. After all the complaints Ubisoft got for language barriers playing the Division, The Division 2 has the EXACT same issues, with foreigners flooding the game on every region and the game being full of Russians and Chinese
Welcome to the MP aspect of Division 2
winter yew
Lol
dry copper
I am SO glad I never purchased the DLC.
I got this game for free.
Sad part is, the game could be easily made SP offline and avoid all the bs, but they want to create a microtransaction market
Oh well. This is what you get from me Ubisoft
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What a hot steaming pile of bullshit. After all the complaints Ubisoft got for l...
sounds like they removed language barriers
You can see all the languages
dry copper
and it would be one thing if it was isolated, but that chat is flooooooded with russian and chinese. Everything from outrage for being horrible at the game due to lag, to Chinese selling leveling services and gear
It's like each country agreed to corner a market
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Heh
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where's the texan representing america
dry copper
The one guy from Texas with the racist epithets screaming about liberals
tiny otter
Damn liberals puttin Chinese people in my vidyagames
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where any character that's american will be texan or californian
cats are assholes sometimes
dry copper
I can't believe someone spent time and/or money making a Flashback remake, but somehow it looks worse.
It looks like a mobile game.
I remember when Flashback first came out. That game was awesome.
Now it looks like someone fond of the original had mental diarrhea.
bronze wind
tried Monster Sanctuary on gamepass, actually very fun
winter yew
I thought about checking that one out
bronze wind
would definitely recommend
it's basically pokemon with a bit more strategy and metroidvania-ish aspects
every monster has a "field move" that does something outside of battle, letting you do stuff like make small platforms, glide for a bit, burn things, break things, push things, etc
winter yew
Oooh
bronze wind
you have three battle slots and the monsters always act in order of position, so positioning plays a big role in how the battle plays out. Putting buffers up front to add damage/build up combos and leaving heavy hitters in the back to deal more damage as a result
also every monster has a skill tree with mutliple branching paths
so you can have two of the same monster with different focuses potentially
dry copper
Damn it Ryan. You're so great!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67gE94Fyx7I
dry copper
I literally spent all night when I was sleeping downloading and installing that pos game (Division 2). Fricken waste OF TIME
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every monster has a "field move" that does something outside of battle, letting ...
pokemon ranger anyone?
bronze wind
pretty similar to that yeah
austere lance
Rising is a batshit game, lol. Fun af
dry copper
Imagine The Witcher 3 with that slice mechanic
I'd turn into a total psychopath
"You're not very nice."
slicesliceslicesliceslice
"There. Now at least you're amusing"
"Potatoman"
silver sparrow
ring ring ring ring ring ring ring
potatoman
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imma say something i just found out in ED that makes me happy
all the cosmetics that used to be real money have a currency now and I get it just for exploring
glossy kestrel
Aparently Odyssey could have been a standalone game... but they didnt do that cash grab, they made it a season update instead! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgwhlgzvI5M
glossy kestrel
and for the people that dont know... you can actually "land" into those rings
if you drop into the dark side of it.. and turn on night vision... its really good looking 😄
full pivot
land like this? xD
winter yew
I once got caught up in a battle in one of those rings and ended up smacking into an asteroid and bounced off another one and exploded.
I was laughing so hard I nearly pee’d myself
full pivot
sure i mean im just in the middle of nowhere but im also just MsAethena on there too xD
sleek cloud
Ok
silver sparrow
tlou2....gd ||seraphites||
austere lance
I apparently have the attention span of a gnat and now I started a third game, lol. The remaster of Arkham City 😆
silver sparrow
lol
viral token
loud slate
like this ring view?
sleek cloud
Amazing
loud slate
I forget where that is but there's a station basically in the ring there
glass plinth
I cant remember where it was, but I ran into a ringed world once who had such immense rings that they covered your visible horizon
loud slate
I can find the date on that shot and look back through my logs if you want to figure it out
glass plinth
I always loved the bizzare worlds of ed
The two I love the most are on the far rim in a region you really have to travel awhile to get two. Two naturally life sustaining worlds in the same system, with two moons, one moon sustains life.
If the game had alien races like the original ED did, I imagine that would be some home world lol
loud slate
like this ring view?
ah right I found it, that's right near the station Titan's Daughter in the Taygeta system
another IMO pretty shot I took of that game (Kepler Orbital after the NMLA attack)
sleek cloud
Found a system with 2 elws orbiting each other the other day
loud slate
Found a system with 2 elws orbiting each other the other day
I swear profitable worlds come in pairs
sleek cloud
Found a couple of waters orbiting each other but never Earth likes
silver sparrow
Found a system with 2 elws orbiting each other the other day
glass plinth
Yeah the earth likes I found are still listed as some first, I forget what
I know it was probably just a first for the region
Definitely would make a ideal home for humans
one worlds basically earth level biological with near earth atmosphere and temps
I say near earth, because its a tad warmer
the others more polar-temperate
sleek cloud
Feels good being the first to discover it and can't wait to hand in the exploration data
New ship time hopefully
dry copper
I hope that ED's odyssey is so much better than I expect it to be. What are the odds? Do we have any early releases of beta tests or something
Maybe some gameplay?
sleek cloud
I think there is will be to a select few
austere lance
They've shown some gameplay already
glass plinth
Honestly, with anything done by frontier for ED, its always take the bare minimum expectations
and your pretty close to how it will be
dry copper
I wonder if Odyssey will be forced pvp
glass plinth
Yes
In theory you could say start out at the started space station
fly to any world you can walk on
and engage in solo merc work
dry copper
You can't walk on all worlds?
glass plinth
Not all
Atmospherics clearly not
Anything thin or no yes
So what does ed offer, go to planet, kill people in bases
Scavenge crashed ships
find plants and sell the data scans
Thats about the core
Essentially it just adds stuff to do on the planets you can walk on, not to to much
dry copper
Eventually it will be just another glory hole for microtransactions
glass plinth
Well in function its just like mining in space, scanning in space
Just a new area to do it
Its not bad
Also you could in theory just work on planets
since you dont need ships to fly between planets now
Space taxis
It is nice though since I live in one system most of the time
Mine there
work there
Now I can go to planets and explore them for a profit in a new way, it makes the planets feel a bit less barren
glass plinth
Considering the condition of development
Everythings slow
From financial issues to covid
lol
arctic sparrow
holy shit he really went into that raid shadow legends proper
dry copper
....
arctic sparrow
not just memeing around
dry copper
Talking about Dyling Light 2, Raid Shadow Legends banana pole dynamic spaghetti mixer. ...I always skip that part of their video. It screws with their youtube statistics
and if I can get what i want in under 5 minutes, their whole 10+ minute video is almost useless
In his case it looks like he contracted to stuff that add into his own video so utube doesn't get any of the revenue for it...
probably has a raid shadow turdgreement
arctic sparrow
well, here's hoping they won't just have announcements for more announcements
dry copper
I can't wait to see what happens with game development integration between AI and story
I'd love to see a game that writes a dynamic story in 3D using an AI that impacts content
Then you can literally type to a NPC and they can respond and change the game fundamentally
A conversation with AI I had today....
Have you played the game Cyberpunk 2077?
No I haven't, I have just seen footage of it.
Do you have any opinions about it?
Id rather be a walrus.
Me too. Me too.
glass plinth
Meanwhile, Im playing way to much Cyberpunk
winter yew
Same
glass plinth
Call me the Pacifier
Lol
Im doing a mostly non-lethal run
Stun batons all the way
winter yew
I got a mod that turns my guns non lethal, so I can just brrrrrrr them and they won't die.
Stupid really but hey it works.
glass plinth
Pax
They have a cybernetic eye for that as well
Non lethal rounds are a thing of course.
I like the insanity of running into a room of enemies and just getting so close they have difficulty reacting
winter yew
I passed 100 hours playtime today.
On my 2nd playthrough cause I feel I missed a lot of stuff my first run.
dry copper
AI: Do you mind if I try an experiment?
ME: I do not mind if you try an experiment.
AI: You are not funny.
ME: This is true.
AI: What are you thinking about?
ME: Being unfunny.
AI: You succeeded.
ME: Thank you.
AI: No problem.
winter yew
First run took me 81 hours though, I didn't rush it.
dry copper
I'm just thinking of all the situations that could arise in a game with an AI you speak to with inputs rather than pre-designed messages
Just random text....
and the AI can act out based on responses
winter yew
I imagine eventually we'll see something similar.
dry copper
I want a game where the tech manifests in a 3D world and not in the manifestations of a limitless imagined one
Hell. The replayability of a game with such an open ended concept...
Feels almost endless
I imagine there would be limits at least in terms of end-result
There's only so many ways an AI can kill off a character....
Though, it's possible the AI could bug out and share the results between different NPC meaning a single hive mind might turn into a psychopath with a full on agenda
Turns out Agent Smith wasn't a virus...You were. You didn't tip the taxi driver. You were mean to the pizza delivery guy...that shit built up over time...and the AI governing the entire universe started to hate you.
ahem Sorry. Fantasizing about game design
sleek cloud
i don't know what would be my perfect game
dry copper
Star Citizen?
winter yew
Honestly, for me, yes.
sleek cloud
potentially
dry copper
Remember when that was on the shop floor and just fresh and there was so much hope?
I wonder if there's still hope after all this time.
I mean...Technically it's got a better track record than Cyberpunk
So it's got that going for it
lol
winter yew
The technology in game will definitely lead to new games and scopes of games being born.
dry copper
A tech demo
winter yew
The render engine is so ridiculously easy in concept that I imagine others will work out their own methods, leading to LoD being a non issue.
sleek cloud
that could be interesting game where you create a city, Cities Skylines like then have the ability to go ground level and walk around with procedural type missions or even missions you could create
something like that anyway
glass plinth
Frankly no game trumps kerbals for me
Since, I can do... well anything
Star citizen frankly s so buggy, so hard to use and generally so unfleshed out, its not fun
Its like trying out a bunch of tech demos taped together.
sleek cloud
i was watching a SC stream last night for the first time in years and 10 mins in there were bugs
his ship starting bouncing as he got out so he thought closing the hatch door would stop it, nope, it carried on bouncing then the hatch door wouldn't reopen
raven frost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nIPYn9DDWQ
still hyped as fuck for this tbh
sleek cloud
raven frost
I've been waiting for so longgggg
bold crag
i am just gonna put this right here, dont mind me
https://i.imgur.com/Wd7etSL.gifv
sleek cloud
holy shit 😄
my son has a hot wheels garage and it flings the cars around that so fast
moves it away from oled
raven frost
is that a hole where the car was or is that the car stuck in the cieling?
sleek cloud
looks like car stuck halfway
bold crag
its stuck
raven frost
ok because god damn
raven frost
imagine what that would've done to a human
willow crypt
does whatever a spider car does
fleet moat
i am just gonna put this right here, dont mind me
https://i.imgur.com/Wd7etSL.gi...
I wish it had sound. Hilarious 
heavy zenith
i saw those hot wheels in a store last year Before and they had blast shields up at either end
silver sparrow
does whatever a spider car does
car-pig next
willow crypt
yeah
austere lance
Imagine putting worse-than-PS1 audio in your game but also spending lots of money putting stuff like this into it
https://twitter.com/tobiigaming/status/1349431022765670404?s=19
bold crag
why would you play with eye tracking
is that like for people that cant use their hands?
austere lance
"Immersion"
willow crypt
New open world Star Wars Game has been announced apparently
austere lance
Ubisoft: Puts fucking awful audio quality in their game that gives me a headache if I try playing it
Also Ubisoft in the latest title update:
willow crypt
I guess that’s a good and a bad thing
The open world could end up being huge and empty and pointless
austere lance
Inb4 they record the entire game's audio with a Kinect 
cinder vessel
dev priorities are weird
austere lance
dev priorities are weird
To be fair, they can't fix the audio issue. They actually thought it was a good idea to record shit in that quality 🤢
austere lance
They'd have to re-record the sounds for the entire game
thorn dawn
v1.1 within 10 days
cinder vessel
To be fair, they can't fix the audio issue. They actually thought it was a good ...
it saved 8-9gb in an 80-90gb game, very worth it 
thorn dawn
"As it turned out, our testing did not show many of the issues you experienced while playing the game."
they need a better qa team tbh
austere lance
LMFAOOOOOO
cinder vessel
"our testing conveniently excluded PS4/Xbox One"
can't believe they're throwing QA under the bus
glass plinth
For the eye tracking by the way @bold crag I love it, I use tobii on Elite dangerous all the time. Allows me to look around my environment without mouse input. That way Im able to say check a spaceship behind me, middle of a dogfight.
Frankly its a ton better then VR for me.
cinder vessel
For the eye tracking by the way <@!300182323549175809> I love it, I use tobii on...
you have an owl head?
glass plinth
hehe, you dont have to turn your head that much silly goof
bold crag
oh boy what an image
glass plinth
Your head becomes a input
So imagine you turn your head a little, the game screen turns, its very natural
Its pretty damned good in Star citizen as well
Well frankly most space games
flight sims and such
bold crag
just jahnri sitting infront of his monitor, suddenly the head twists 180 degrees and looks at a screen directly behind him
glass plinth
Hahaha
In truth you can set the input levels to wherever your want
I find it really liberating to be able to look around my cockpit naturally with my head
Makes mining pretty damned awesome
Hrmm, curious how it would work on foot
Like in AC
it mite rock
As for Cyberpunk, man what a clusterfuck
I love the game, but the company is just ... not doing so hot. At least I can give them credit for fixing stuff though.
austere lance
Where have I heard this before 
arctic sparrow
future projects, not current projects
austere lance
OOF
silver sparrow
imagine calm game dev deadlines
glass plinth
that wont happen
That would require realistically telling people when delays happen
LOl
Well, that or pulling a HG and just shutting up
Im not even against crunch. Its prolonged crunch that is a issue.
I cant tell you how many times unexpected events pushed my company into really difficult corners where i worked 2 or 3 18 hour days in a row
It happens. Its when you work that way for months and your disposable to the company where issues arise
fleet moat
My bf just called my character in GTA "financially obese" 
How rude. Smh.
willow crypt
as long as it’s not crunch forced upon creatives by team leads
heavy zenith
that's a stellar phrase
willow crypt
if it’s their desire to crunch then that’s fine
A lot of creatives are obsessive and like to work unhealthy hours
fleet moat
Well, that's a tricky area in all honesty.
willow crypt
yeah
up to the person, if it isn’t, they’re slaves
does financially obese mean rich
fleet moat
Not everyone agreeing to crunch hours are necessarily doing so because they fully understand the consequences. And when they do, sometimes, it's very late. Health-wise. Mental-health wise. Source: My old self.
deep idol
My bf just called my character in GTA "financially obese" <a:PikaOMG:75061654390...
😇
🤑
willow crypt
really no point in working when you’re mentally exhausted. you’ll get so much more done after being well rested
daring spear
Hey it's Erik
Hi Erik
willow crypt
and be happier
fleet moat
Corporations are top 1% with very well trained management teams experienced in manipulating their workforce. A lot of times making it sound like it's a "choice" when it really isn't.
willow crypt
which sucks
deep idol
Hey it's Erik
Hi Erik
Hi!!! I was informed I was being called out, so I had to defend myself if necessary haha
daring spear
Lmao!
heavy zenith
Hi!!! I was informed I was being called out, so I had to defend myself if necess...
couldn't 'afford' to let it pass
deep idol
really no point in working when you’re mentally exhausted. you’ll get so much mo...
Yep. Plus more mistakes happen and that ultimately creates even more work.
deep idol
couldn't 'afford' to let it pass
Haha indeed
fleet moat
which sucks
Exactly. We can make a lot of assumptions as outsiders. But I've also been on the inside. And have also seen colleagues suffer consequences. So at times, it's hard to gauge how much was "choice" and how much was deliberate manipulation.
deep idol
@daring spear I went to emoji your post to appreciate you recognizing me and realized I still don’t have enough XP to add emojis😩 lol. I still think I should get some secondhand XP for reading over Red’s shoulder so much😁
daring spear
Lmao, that would be interesting
heavy zenith
i've never played pokemon but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKSWywJO2w8 is nice
the tone of voice is perfectly matched with the content
bold crag
hey Erik can have some of my xp, i don't need them anymore
willow crypt
Returnal lookin' good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB5HCcKcLNQ
cinder vessel
but pls, somebody, get them to change the name, lol
willow crypt
Come backal
keen dome
Recturnal
willow crypt
😳
silver sparrow
Enteral
austere lance
dry copper
Odyssey delayed
austere lance
Wot
silver sparrow
smoking is bad mmmkay 🪵 🦶 🪵
dry copper
willow crypt
delayed, then it'll launch, then everyone will be underwhelmed, then they'll have to wait until it gets better with another update in another year
silver sparrow
ED:Odyssey2077
willow crypt
OI
cinder vessel
space legs are hard, that's why you start as a floating camera that appears to be holding a gun and then add third-person and then add legs in first-person (at least for VR)
sleek cloud
At least we have em now plus the atmospheric worlds, the views and screenshots that will come from this will be breathtaking
jagged kayak
dry copper
dry copper
Ugh. While I like they're using Snowdrop, I hope this new star wars game doesn't turn into The Division: Star Wars edition
winter yew
Fucking juicehead... Is all I'm going to said about that.
fleet moat
Shrek Yoda 🧐
balmy plaza
His neck is so wide lol
static trellis
Thicc yoda = shrek?
Watching a Star Wars themed Junkyard Joust: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKVNX0nu3u0&ab_channel=JunkyardJoust
Similar to stuff like Jelle's Marble Runs, except for toy cars instead of marbles, lol.
fleet moat
Ooh I missed this news earlier: https://www.engadget.com/cyberpunk-2077-apology-video-roadmap-updates-2021-220043550.html
I didn't realize there'd been an official apology from the co-founder. I still feel bad for the devs. I'm glad this video helps clarify who's normally at fault, even if it doesn't fix the issues.
Btw, started watching History of Swear Words on Netflix. Funnnny. Highly recommend. So far. 
https://www.netflix.com/title/81305757?s=i&trkid=13747225
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I assume that's not the movie character yoda
balmy plaza
I assume that's not the movie character yoda
It is. It's a few hundred years before the prequels though
charred badge
oh, later than the old republic? Huh
austere lance
It's between the Old Republic and the prequels
Like, 300 years before the prequels
So Yoda will be in his prime
OK maybe not prime (he's pretty old, lol) but definitely able to beat more ass 😆
keen dome
Ang grogu doesn't exsist yet iircv
austere lance
Nope, he was born and started being raised during the Clone Wars
deep idol
hey Erik can have some of my xp, i don't need them anymore
Yes please!!!😁
glass plinth
So I feel bad, I fell on a pedestrian in cyberpunk and squished him
Literally missed a jump between buildings and landed on a guy sleeping on a sidewalk
I look down.. just goo everywhere
keen dome
Odd, I know we been talking about EDO, I actually have ED ignored for some reason, idk why
crisp sparrow
Twitter
winter yew
Imagine having to drive from inside that. 😄
Got reminded of the talk how some of the cars have insane interiors, and that you can't see shit from inside em. Dunno if it was here or not even, but this feels relevant. 😄
winter yew
In other news, what the fuck goes into these slots fkn hell.
there's 15 more slots, filled 3, got all this iconic shit inside, nope, none of those.
K one's panams rifle, but I'm using that so na ah.
but rest's empty and I'm lost.
I think I have an idea for one.
ah fuck I bet I know of 2 pistols that go on display... the one from yorinobus apartment, and Dying Light. No clue why I don't have em anymore.
cinder vessel
Just barely got away from that last dogfight apparently 😬
heavy zenith
ah fuck I bet I know of 2 pistols that go on display... the one from yorinobus a...
huh, so that's what those are for, thanks!
winter yew
Ooo new Orbit Culture song https://youtu.be/1TX4YS_l1-Q
prisma geyser
damnit I normally don't check videos here
but I see Acey has posted it
so off I go
excuse me is this djent because it sounds like it
and I approve
...wait what genre is this
full pivot
EA lost exclusivity for Star Wars?
crisp sparrow
yee
full pivot
You mean now after they started making good games for it? 
crisp sparrow
hmmm
full pivot
Ubisoft open world Star Wars game; I hope people have realistic expectations because Ubisoft open worlds are usually the same formula every time
While I enjoy it ik a lot of other ppl don't
bold crag
oh god far cry star wars
full pivot
I mean I really enjoy Starlink
Starlink space combat in NMS would be great, cuz its still pretty casual its just got a bit better presentation
winter yew
...wait what genre *is* this
Metallica meets Whitechapel
This was the first song I ever heard by them
Thanks YouTube algorithm
prisma geyser
holy shit Metallica meets Whitechapel is fucking SPOT ON
sleek cloud
Metalica meets The Hu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpxA_ZxGX_M&ab_channel=TheHU
winter yew
keen dome
prisma geyser
@winter yew fuckin' A this slaps as well
prisma geyser
I have to be in a mood for The Hu
I can respect the musicianship but it's not an every-day jam for me 😛
crisp sparrow
Star
crisp sparrow
me neither
prisma geyser
song slaps pretty hard imo
found this band pretty recently and I'm loving this whole album
meager panther
Why do they keep delaying everything
Movies, games everything keeps getting pushed
prisma geyser
yeeeeep
willing to bet UK Techfest 2021 gets canceled this year as well
which sucks because I want the goddamn video of Slice the Cake playing the entire Odyssey to the West album live, damnit
because I can't afford to fly there and UK will probably be in lockdown when it happens x.x
meager panther
delaying it last year was fine, there is going to be a slew of delays in 2 months from now
everything scheduled for may and surrounding periods is going to be delayed
winter yew
... Yes.
spare flame
full pivot
I'm fine if Odyssey gets delayed I bought the alpha build one
Plus youd think people would be ok with game delays this soon after 2077
But ppl never learn I guess 
winter yew
2077 is weird to me. I went in expecting to have issues and had none and it turned in to the literal best game I ever played.
I can't stop playing it. 😭
winter yew
I'm excited for ED:O though.
meager panther
i just want star field, ED:O and sq42. i will probably sink a lot of time in those 3
full pivot
I was having fun in space yesterday
meager panther
sq42 probably will never release tho
winter yew
👌
full pivot
ED had a better approach tbh
They've finished an aspect of the game (space) and now are adding in the walky bits
No atmosphere planet first, now atmosphere; I'm sure later on Earthlike and water worlds n stuff
People don't really see the game being in dev either because the part they released was finished mostly; but walking and stuff was always supposed to be in ED
viral token
Views are lovely 😉
full pivot
I wonder if my ship has a place to sleep on it and also... Could I theoretically take a cat with me
Id like to imagine I just float around in deep space with my cats lmao
Trying to get back to the cave nebula so I can sell a bunch of cartographics its just gonna take a year 😔
viral token
no FCs you can land on with the UC service active?
full pivot
FC?
heavy zenith
There’s a DSSA program that permanently anchors carriers strategically, for explorers
full pivot
I would have no idea how to do any of that its all new shit since I was playing
heavy zenith
If you look up your region in the table here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vTevQUcLThqo4emXE4nowJeasI07gFio4fETwevAXKIA18NhlDzbnZzRMVUOAT26OROfHG7fCXvTLgY/pubhtml?gid=0&single=true
full pivot
I doubt theres one in 50 jumps of me
heavy zenith
Only 50? Maybe not yeah
Anyways, they’re just mobile starports, though best not to log out while docked at one. Some have cartographics.
viral token
you don't need to own one, just find one with the UC service active and you can sell your data, although you lose 25% (12.5% to FC and 12.5% to UC service provider) but you can sell data for systems within 20 Ly
heavy zenith
I haven’t visited any yet but I haven’t gone very far either
full pivot
Well the cave nebula is 50 jumps away too tho
Its just I don't have a lot of time so I only got through like 6 yesterday
heavy zenith
Ah, yeah.
full pivot
Between scanning and photos and stuff
viral token
I am on a mates FC and I just loaded up the game, launched went to SC FSSd the system and then landed and sold the data
full pivot
I was heading out to heart and soul but it's obnoxiously far
Well selling one system ain't that much
Id just like to sell the stuff I acquired 6 months ago or so
viral token
my point is, you normally have to travel >20 Ly in order to sell system data ... not with a FC you don't 😉
full pivot
I get the point
viral token
does the cave nebula have a station you can sell at?
full pivot
That's why I'm backtracking there.
viral token
well the Heart n Soul ones do
full pivot
That's like 200 jumps or something
viral token
even on fastest route?
full pivot
No but that's anathema to what I'm doing
I'm taking the slow route to accrue cartographic data
viral token
well more systems visit = more data to sell and also the chance to find undiscovered systems
full pivot
And more things to see
viral token
just don't die 😉
full pivot
Well I'm avoiding neutron stars and i learned the easy way to land so I should be safe
Hard to die
I imagine atmospheres will make it harder in the future
Prolly can't just stop and drop down
viral token
I hope more interesting, technically challenging
full pivot
But not like supercharging which works 99/100 times and once in a while kills you
viral token
I was on my way back from Colonia and using the NH and got stuck in a cone and ended up back in Colonia ... when I started the trip home again I didn't use Neutrons at all ... visited more systems though
full pivot
Its why I avoided the most recent one
It might have let me get to cave faster but no thanks
Back when I had my Asp I had 3 months worth of data and got fucked on a supercharge and quit the game for quite a while
The problem is I had no intention of going back till I had reached the center, and I had no reason to think id die
crisp sparrow
stardew 1.5 big spoiler ||yeess finally the island farm||
viral token
should have contacted support, a mate of mine had a similar problem been using neutrons for ages then suddenly gets destroyed by one so contacted support and had his rebuy cost refunded and all his data restored, only thing they didn't restore was the system data so if you view the system from the galaxy map it'll say discovered/mapped by you but it'll still show unexplored on all the bodies
full pivot
Yeah this was before FSS I think?
It was a while ago
At least now I know I can hop back to the bubble and stuff
As I understand what y'all were saying I could jump back to civilization and then back out to where I left off?
viral token
no
full pivot
Then its kinda useless
viral token
if you die you get the choice of the ship you were in at the last station you were docked at ... or a sidewinder in a system in the bubble (not sure if this is still a thing with the starter systems as you'd require the permit for them, which you lose when you leave them)
full pivot
I know how death works
I guess I misunderstood the point of FCs then
As I said before there's travel distance regardless
viral token
A FC is just a mobile station, I took mine and a few people to Colonia to unlock the engineers up there a little while ago ... does 3 jumps per hour so it takes a while to get there
does 500 Ly per jump though
viral token
I have everything on mine apart from the black market and the outfitting, so people can store ships on it if they want ... refuel/repair and rearm and then sell exploration data or bounties
full pivot
I just have my humble Krait
viral token
I have 2 of those I know one's outfitted for Goids not sure what the other one's used for ... main ship I fly is the Anaconda and today is only the 2nd time I've played since last year. Waiting for my mate in California to decide what he's doing with the FC heading to Colonia or returning to the bubble?
full pivot
I'm never buying an anaconda xD
sleek cloud
i'm tempted with one
full pivot
Its like a living ship to me
sleek cloud
or something like a clipper becuase they look cool af
viral token
I have 8 on the Xbox and 7 on the PC 😉
full pivot
Everyone has one so I don't want one
fervent fog
Stardew seems fun
viral token
my main gripe with the Clipper is it should have been a medium ship and the internals are just horrible ... I have some I use for module storage
full pivot
I might get a hauler or a transport ship someday just for something different to do
viral token
Python
sleek cloud
i do when i get back want to look into doing some mining
crisp sparrow
hmmmm
static trellis
You mentioned VSauce @crisp sparrow, most of their key songs are done by Jake Chudnow, I particularly like Shona, Prelude to Shona, and Olive. But here's the main one, Shona: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBAIyY9y3HM&ab_channel=JakeChudnow
sleek cloud
Lets see your setups
silver sparrow
here's mine:
sleek cloud
a bit bright
crisp sparrow
mine
silver sparrow
purple haze
viral token
and old pic of mine, changed a bit since the picture was taken ... printer has gone, its under the pile of papers on the left, to be replaced by a Raspberry Pi + Arduino. Still as tidy though 😛
sleek cloud
that PC in the white case looks old
silver sparrow
sleek cloud
nice, i quite like them smaller keyboards
viral token
that PC in the white case looks old
it's a classic ... its a P4
silver sparrow
87 is the sweet spot for me
sleek cloud
good ol' P4
sleek cloud
last intel CPU i had was a Celeron D and it was slow as shit
viral token
I have a 486 DX 33 Vesa Local Bus motherboard + VLB Video Card + VLB I/O Card in a box somewhere
even got a 5.25" hard drive + floppy drive
silver sparrow
wewlad
viral token
not as cool as the Compaq Proliant 1600 I have though 😉 which I cannot even give away ... wouldn't care it still works just no need for it now
fervent fog
Meep
thorn dawn
dammit why do amazon insist on this week by week format for the expanse
dry copper
They're using it to promote site visits
winter yew
:/
dry copper
Visit site more, more sales.
Maybe not for you specifically, but they really only care about scraping 1% of the fans
....and since nobody really complains.
austere lance
dammit why do amazon insist on this week by week format for the expanse
Same reason Disney+ does it with Mando
And Amazon does it with The Boys too
crisp sparrow
Expanse S5 Ep 7 ||holy shit man Naomi took a fucking huge gamble||
glossy kestrel
fervent fog
upcoming game...
austere lance
God damn that's a good deal
Battlefront II has a fun campaign and decent Battlefield-style multiplayer
I started Injustice 2 cuz it's on Game Pass, not sure how to feel about the campaign's story so far. Supergirl is.....older than Superman in this???
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Battlefield-style
I mean, the series is a battlefront subseries...
austere lance
Yeah but it feels more like Battlefield
echo hill
@quaint escarp 😏
echo hill
Yeah but it feels more like Battlefield
BF4 best battlefield don't @ me
echo hill
waiting
quaint escarp
o.O
echo hill
Feb 4th new map
quaint escarp
new map is Vietnam
echo hill
P sure Richthofen is in it
echo hill
Agreed. Hopefully a bit harder this time
full pivot
almost there
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...why is ubi streaming scott pilgrim?
austere lance
Cuz it's their game, lol. And just got re-released
dry copper
I just finished watching Bladerunner (the original one) last night. I'd seen the second one with Ryan Gosling, but not the Ford one...
I did not like the Ford one.
I barely enjoyed the Gosling one.
I love the theme...the world it's in, but holy shit they do not put much work into justifying the universe.
Welcome to the future...Ignore everything.
It's dirty.
The End
I can't hate on it tho...I think that's intentional.
They want to inspire thoughts and opinions and ideas.
Like a prophecy trying to convince you it's worth making come true.
sleek cloud
Altered Carbon has a good Cyberpunk theme, 2nd season was shit though
winter yew
Altered Carbon has a good Cyberpunk theme, 2nd season was shit though
AGREED
I miss the dude who played the main character in the first one
he had an awesome voice
dry copper
He's technically still alive in the second, no?
austere lance
Second season bored me so much that I didn't finish it
winter yew
well the sleeve he wore anyway
dry copper
They just never got the actor to agree to return
austere lance
First season was top tier
bold crag
i had to finish the second season
sleek cloud
Same, got to the 4th episode n that was it
bold crag
eventhough i did not want to
austere lance
They just never got the actor to agree to return
They did it on purpose, Kovac was more or less on the run
austere lance
I need to see what else he's in
Suicide Squad 😬
winter yew
oh shit
bold crag
well, oof
austere lance
Yep
bold crag
oh no
austere lance
And he's the dad in Hanna
dry copper
I would've loved to see an Altered Carbon with the original Kovac played by Will Yun Lee as the only main protagonist.
austere lance
Amazon Prime show @bold crag
winter yew
that would defeat most of the point of the plot
bold crag
oh, thats why i dont know it
austere lance
He's a good actor, he had physical issues before Altered Carbon so he was stuck not doing action roles til he got fixed through a big surgery
bold crag
but oof robocop and suicide squad
dry copper
I didn't mind Robocop, but they could've done a lot better. The story was played out. I don't need what amounts to a movie resume.
I'd rather had seen a new story.
austere lance
winter yew
wow
bold crag
oh, that medical condition
sleek cloud
Wow
austere lance
Mad respect for him filming a badass action series like Altered Carbon while having that done to him
raven frost
that sounds extremely painful
bold crag
its so forgetable
dry copper
Don't they have to break every one of your ribs in sections so that they heal in the proper alignment later?
Well, all the points connected to the bone
My favorite character in Altered Carbon is Poe...but I may be biased in favor of alcoholics who die in the gutter.
austere lance
Better explanation
sleek cloud
I liked the hotel AI, forgot his name
dry copper
Poe
fleet moat
Loved Poe
austere lance
Torchlight 3 is on Game Pass now, goofy lil Diablo-like game
One of the characters you can choose is a......train summoner???
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is it fully released now?
austere lance
I picked the barrel robot, lol
dry copper
Yeah altered carbon's futuristic hellscape feels soooooo much more lived in than bladerunners or even cyberpunks
Everything has some fucked up history of corrupt abuse tied to it
I think I know why I can't get into Watchdogs Legion...and it might be something psychological.
I fucking hate driving on the wrong side of the road.
Hate it.
...Tried driving on the right side and crashed into cars every time.
Like...learn to fucking drive, Britain.
😛
I had GTA London 1969...I couldn't get into that, either.
I just can't get used to driving on the left side of the road.
Which is weird, since I've never driven a car.
cinder vessel
It may sound stupid, but that phrasing has always thrown me off, "Driving on the [x] side of the road"
Like, you drive on both sides, and either side, you're going forward...
silver sparrow
heavy zenith
Torchlight 3 is on Game Pass now, goofy lil Diablo-like game
thanks!
dry copper
@cinder vessel I drive with the traffic.
cinder vessel
but the traffic goes either way!
dry copper
Try driving on the right side of the road in britain. Traffic will be driving into your face.
Two lanes. Relative to your position. Left and Right.
Britain drives on the left side, North America drives on the right side.
It feels like I'm on the wrong side of the road which sends me careening into traffic
cinder vessel
Yeah, I get what you're saying, and I'm saying the phrasing is as confusing to me as that driving situation is to you
dry copper
I just don't prefer to drive backwards.
cinder vessel
Because regardless of which side is the "driving" side, you drive on both sides
dry copper
Semantics.
cinder vessel
Unless when you're in the "non-driving" side you think you're not driving
It may be semantics but imagine trying to explain to someone who speaks English as a second or third language, lol
dry copper
When I worked nights, we had a guy on staff who spoke english third language. I couldn't.
Half the shit I learned about writing and speaking english, I couldn't explain
Upon reflection, it felt like I'd been programmed and forgot what I was programmed for.
cinder vessel
And that's been me since like forever
I have a hard time with English because I don't know what the fuck it's doing, I just try to emulate recognizable communicable patterns
dry copper
Kind of makes you wonder if education is the problem or the reason for it.
Imagine if you only had to learn the things that helped make you better at what you wanted to do.
and the price of admission for doing something different, of course....learn the new things.
Instead of learning all of this information as fundamental and only retaining 30% that will almost never be used.
cinder vessel
and the price of admission for doing something different, of course....learn the...
that's not how it all is already? 
novel prawn
Upon reflection, it felt like I'd been programmed and forgot what I was programm...
that's how language acquisition works, its much better to submerge yourself in the language than to study it if you just want to learn how to speak
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charred badge
It may sound stupid, but that phrasing has always thrown me off, "Driving on the...
would you prefer "starboard"?
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Half the shit I learned about writing and speaking english, I couldn't explain
oh oh, like this https://twitter.com/MattAndersonNYT/status/772002757222002688
coarse swift
And in this image you'll see a rare sight. Truly, remarkable. A 'The Colony' grenade launcher outside of its natural habitat, braving the wilds of pve. This type of behavior is unprecedented in Crucible natives.
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I use what I have, lol
cinder vessel
would you prefer "starboard"?
maybe, if I could ever remember ship terminology 😅
heavy zenith
port and left both end in t
dry copper
So does butt
bold crag
backbord & steuerbord
dry copper
NMS needs some truly horrifying space monsters. All these giant galactic skulls are teases
I want to see the one that didn't somehow rot in a void
cinder vessel
for what you wish from NMS, the lovely #nms-the-future awaits
wut
in NMS?
is that some unofficial name for the thing?
lol
meteor child made me think of some Risk of Rain or Starbound thing
dry copper
I wonder who ever thought of referring to something as bullshit. I mean, in what context....did bullshit, become bad
cinder vessel
do you realize how many things that could apply to in NMS, lmao
dry copper
We need some metroid powers for your NMS character. I wanna turn into a ball and roll around.
jetpacks suck
bold crag
i want a sword
bold crag
you mean the launchable arm blades
austere lance
My arm is a sword!
Prototype, lol
cinder vessel
crossfade, in good music players since forever 😎
dry copper
I really enjoyed Prototype 1, but 2 felt contrived. Like, they made it just because they could. The story barely expanded...the technology for the game was not new...and didn't do anything to expand on the map. Prototype 2 felt like a total cash grab. I want a Prototype 3 that's NOT a cash grab.
cinder vessel
I can't stand using spotify for any length of time due to the ads 💀
dry copper
I've never used Spotify on purpose.
cinder vessel
whaddya talkin' about, desktop app also has ads
well, ya lucked out i guess, lol
every time i use it i may get through like 2 songs and then ad
at its worst it's between every damn song
dry copper
I wonder why Metal Gear Revengence's slice and dice mechanic didn't make it into any future Kojima projects. I absolutely loved it.
cinder vessel
MGR is just a ripoff of Musashi Samurai Legend don't @ me
dry copper
Musashi Samurai Legend....never heard of it.
bold crag
maybe
cinder vessel
It was a pseudo-sequel to Brave Fencer Musashi, terrible voice acting, but solid gameplay
dry copper
Observing the Musashi Samurai Legend gameplay video...Yeah no. Same mechanic, which is fantastic, but really....
That's like calling Batman Arkham Asylum a rip off of Final Fantasy because it is in color.
cinder vessel
Oh I know the comparison is silly, that's why i made it, lol
dry copper
lol...but the game looks cool so, that's a plus. Always enjoy seeing a new game
Well...new to me
....Because it is
It doesn't
cinder vessel
But yeah, the slice & dice mechanic existed earlier than MGR which is always something cool to find out in games, like which game had this or that feature first/earlier
dry copper
Your PC does not speak
cinder vessel
I love how Mega Man Zero games animate the destruction of enemy bots with the z-saber, nice slice & dice visuals
dry copper
I wish you could dodge in Starbound like you dodge in "Blackthorne"
and go passed stairs without being forced to go up them
Blackthorne had a fucked up narrative. You could kill people who weren't even bad...they were cuffed to walls. They referred to you as their messiah...and you could blow their heads off.
bold crag
"finally"
dry copper
quaint escarp
dry copper
cinder vessel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlm1aajH6gY
i don't get some of these maths problems like this. What does solving them accomplish?
I at least somewhat understand solving scientific problems, how they can help solve other problems and/or devise new tech and/or improvements to tech, however general maths problems? Just end up going, so...What?
dry copper
I'm really digging this channel
@cinder vessel To quote Simons Foundation in summarizing the significance of this discovery
A solution to the Riemann hypothesis — and to newer, related hypotheses that fall under the umbrella of the ‘generalized Riemann hypothesis’ — would prove hundreds of other theorems. In one fell swoop, it would establish that certain algorithms will run in a relatively short amount of time (known as polynomial time) and would explain the distribution of small gaps between prime numbers. In short, a solution would solidify humanity’s understanding of some of the most fundamental objects and relationships in mathematics.
The practical application of solving this problem has yet to be found because we have no technology that needs this mathematics to function. The practical application of these problems won't be discovered for hundreds if not thousands of years.
That of course depends on how fast our technologies develop.
Maybe we'll find a practical use for using this math in formulating technology to unify relativity and quantum mechanics.
That's the beauty of mathematics.
It's a light switch into nothing but possibility
cinder vessel
yeah see that still told me next to nothing
mathematics, especially on that level, is a lot like philosophy, just instead of concepts & ideas expressed in language it's a bunch of concepts & ideas expressed in numbers
which i suppose for some folks is beautiful, but for me it's just like, what the fuck even is a number really
dry copper
Of course....because there are no proofs yet. Once a proof exists it goes from philosophy to psychology.
The whole objective is to find a way of applying the math in such a way that it can be used to predict other things without needing to necessarily calculate infinity, which clearly we can't do
Lets say for instance you have an algorithm that dictates how your game renders buildings. It would be even nicer if your algorithm could also dictate how the game renders avatars, and light, shadows, etc....The fewer independent mathematics necessary, the less overhead in calculations.
I'm using coding as a poor substitute for pure math
Application wise, understanding a simplified foundational basis for mathematics just makes everything that uses them more efficient....
And I don't myself understand how the math works. I can appreciate your frustration.
As I listen to the complex explanations, my brain picks up on bits and pieces that fit together, but I don't see the whole picture.
cinder vessel
Sounds a bunch like sorting out solutions searching for problems to apply to, lol
dry copper
Math is way ahead of practicality. Always has been.
Because it's not limited to simple utility
cinder vessel
ahead of but also sometimes just flatly impractical, lol
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i don't get some of these maths problems like this. What does solving them accom...
Solving math problems leads to more math problems leads to more math problems leads to useful things
Look how far figuring out pi brought us
keen dome
my poorly edited gif
sleek cloud
Even when the og xbox/ps4 came out they could barely hit 1080p, they were never that fast to begin with
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Knowing how to calculate circle dimensions and density is huge, and iirc led to trigonometry
dry copper
@sariety#3710 Yes, figuring out pi. Pi can be calculated. The fact that it can be calculated, even if it can not as yet be calculated to a common fraction does not diminish the fact that it's figured.
and...for the record, it will never be figured to a common fraction. Welcome to the universe of three dimensions.
coarse swift
What in the hell is this thumb
heavy zenith
tapered
winter yew
Its beautiful.
heavy zenith
i like the end of nail art that makes it look like it's disrupted
heavy zenith
What in the hell is this thumb
what is that cloak sleeve from? that's a really neat angle-shape
winter yew
Phantasy Star Online 2
heavy zenith
oh neat
dry copper
What in the hell is this thumb
That thumb is a finger drawn by someone who can't do hands.
I used to do thumbs just as poorly
coarse swift
At least they're finally doing hands right here soon
This 8ish year old game is getting moving fingers when New Genesis hits
dry copper
heavy zenith
one of the doctors i've been seeing does a certain procedure so continuously, so often, that the side of her thumb has given up and is now flat
heavy zenith
"no one will ever zoom in on these hands"
dry copper
"No one will ever check to see if these sailors are real" - said no Spiderman game developer ever
winter yew
Phantasy Star 2 New Genesis will hopefully have better hands 
that actually move....
heavy zenith
these .. sailors?
dry copper
heavy zenith
...
heavy zenith
i want to ask "is this faked" but i .. no, i won't
well i tried to figure out what was in the original game and instead there's https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/626675
discord image damage aside, i'm content with what i've learned today
coarse swift
I still think those boat people look like polygon'd Jonah Hill
cinder vessel
so, i'm kind of enjoying Rebel Galaxy Outlaw? At least when I can get into dogfights that don't murder me right away.
But to get better stuff, you have to do a lot of side stuff, and the side stuff just...Isn't great.
Part of it's that the side missions that might be more interesting seem to inevitably get you ambushed. The others are working with cops, or pirates, both of which screw your rep up one way or the other.
So you end up with bland fetch quests or clearing minefields which are inexplicably strewn about the place.
So far, none of these side missions have had any meaningful story associated with them. It's just some filler text that soandso wants whatever done, here's the objective, here's the reward, go at it.
I blame Ubisoft for this /s
fleet moat
I did not know you felt so strongly about Jonah Hill.
Speaking of that guy. According to Netflix's Swear Words series, he's the actor who's officially cursed the most in film or television. 😆
Highly recommend the series for the record.
First episode alone is focused on the word Fuck.
Nicolas Cage is the host. But they have a lot of fun celebrities doing their fair share of cursing. 😆
austere lance
@fleet moat Spirit and I finished watching it today, it's great 🤣
winter yew
His skits are always cute
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messing with the Bless closed beta. It's pretty fun.
Kinda slower BDO
It's an mmo, not a gacha
cinder vessel
lol
wait.
isn't BDO notoriously slow/grindy as-is? the hell?
i forgot the roguelite side of everspace was bad, help
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isn't BDO notoriously slow/grindy as-is? the hell?
the combat is fast and flashy
the progression is slow
cinder vessel
hey just like everspace
and a bunch of other games
i hate progression systems
"to pick this lock, do whatever else a stupid amount of times and then put points in the lockpicking tree/skill/perk"
austere lance
You would HATE Far Cry 5 🤣
cinder vessel
I keep trying to get back into games that I apparently suppressed the memory of having really bland & annoying progression systems
At what point is the satisfaction of "earning" the unlocks not just like some weird sunk cost fallacy thing
glass plinth
I like slow progressing games
probably why I liked bdo
Mind you I was running a business making ships
I loved the social side of it
Not to mention managing my business was rather fun
cinder vessel
I like games where I'm not actively put in a screwed position to justify a progression system
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fresh feeeesh
cinder vessel
did...did they just slap high-res photos down for the wall textures? lol
cinder vessel
The last couple games I've been playing have me feeling that way. Everspace tries to cover it up with being a roguelite, and I dunno what Rebel Galaxy Outlaw's excuse is.
Classic game challenge? 🤷♀️ Thing is, I know when I'm facing an enemy on even footing, it's fun. But left & right it tosses up tougher ones or too many and it's blagh
Everspace does a similar thing, mainly with enemy count tho
lol the squid almost looks like it has a smiley face
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yeah, it's cute
glass plinth
Hrmm
As far as natural progression I loved Ancestors Humankind. The entire world was always brutal no matter what.
Realistically you only survived being more clever then your enemies. Using the terrain and tools available.
Overall, I dont have to suspend much belief in areas with inherently more risk though, how games approach it isnt to far from reality, just to artificially used.
I suppose I would prefer natural progression, but either way I enjoy most kinds of games
I think what irritates me is when people call people out for a design and dont offer any logical means to maintain current game qualities people want, while introducing them to new ones
Its very difficult
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I think my frustration point with games & progression systems, at least recent ones, is when they're transplanted in different genres that don't benefit from them and may in fact hurt them
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Such as?
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Everspace is a good example, I think
It tosses in this perk system atop classic ship upgrading and sorta bundles them together in a clunky way
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I imagine that may be why 2 is a permanent progression game
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I guess ED does it well
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Oops, I forgot that was up
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but also CoD is rife with that crap, lol
Lots of Ubisoft games tack on weird progression systems
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I mean you start out as a noone
Personally I like progression, I like .. ooh shiney
Its why I played mario
or any game for the last 30 years
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There's a difference between repeat boring shit to get thing and hey collect stars tho
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Everspace 2 being permanent rather than roguelite makes some sense. Work on the game controls while players run with minimal content creation
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Not really
cinder vessel
Yes really
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Since said stars opened up stuff and artifactds and such do as well
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Then make a full game sequel
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Imagine if instead of overcoming the obstacles you just sat there farming bowser's minions
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Yeah, there's just a difference between progressing through a platformer and RPG character progression
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Square snuck a FF optional boss into a mario rpg
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Not to me
I mean for me, progression is progression. Which is why I like genshin or say ancestors
I dont differentiate
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There is to me. In a platformer I'm actively enjoying the moment to moment play. In a RPG I'm tolerating the moment to moment play to get to the interesting places/story progressing moments
So then when you say, blend the two, I'm just like whhhyy
Legend of Zelda games have sorta strayed into that territory and it kills me
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Its like say , Im finding treasures because I know there is a known grind to find them all
Or defeat all the bosses of a said kind
That type of stuff gives me center points to operate around
Usually with smaller goals to keep me going which I achieve the big ones
Like Zelda as you put it
Black Desert was like that to a extent, thogh I found it less restricting
Generally if I played well, I could approach most areas with intelligence over brute force
Ill admit though, one reason I loved kerbals was, there was no strict goal
Just... grow , learn, build
No limits except what I could concieve
Elite dangerous was a bit like that
It honestly thinks your just wired differently Leon. To enjoy your games differently.
Which isnt bad. Your just part of a much smaller subtype
😄
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It honestly thinks your just wired differently Leon. To enjoy your games differe...
The AI running this simulation?
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shrugs
Whatever you want to explain it as
I think youd probably like some of my more esoteric games though
Im huge into organic simulations
How do you feel about games like Cities Skylines?
Ha, some of my favorite games growing up were Simcity, Simfarm, Simant
Basically game toys as wright called them
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My main fun with SimCity for awhile was just loading up premade cities and tossing down disasters, lol
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Hehe
Mine was designing cities with really interesting styles
Mind you I took a lot of classes for such designs
Cities Skylines really took it a step further.
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At first I was sorta into them for the citybuilding/design stuff, but I've then lost some interest as it's just tossing down prefabs, and I'd like to design some of the structures to make up the city
Spore almost had that, but it was literally just for that one stage.