other-games

[high grotto]

It's kinda bad no matter which way you go and that's intentional

[fleet moat]

You're not liking playing V as a woman cuz of the interaction with men?

[dry copper]

Yes.

I'll be walking along and assholes honk at me

It's fucked up

and maybe i'm paranoid

[fleet moat]

Hah welcome to women's reality in many parts of the IRL world

[dry copper]

But it's weeeeeeird.

I didn't get that as a male.

[fleet moat]

Yes. It's definitely weird and annoying and frustrating IRL.

I kind of appreciate that CP kinda highlights it. So ppl can see what it's like. I'm finding this detail pretty fascinating.

@crimson kelp

[dry copper]

I only wanted to play V as a woman so I could see if I had more hair styles...

I didn't have more hair styles, but there was definitely a greater variety.

That is to say, they were more visibly different

[high grotto]

Honestly I think CP77 is one of the most inclusive games I've ever played, because regardless of orientation, race, or gender, everyone gets exploited and treated like garbage

[dry copper]

Even the rich are reminded they are cogs.

When the machine starts turning

[fleet moat]

Very interesting. I like it.

[dry copper]

One thing I really am enjoying is the shit they don't even tell you until you've done something else, incidental to it...

I won't go into detail but to say, DO THE SIDE MISSIONS

Some people I didn't even know existed until I explored and did side gigs.

Some side missions don't appear until you discover something...a scene...some evidence, etc

I found a dead cop and found a recording about a drug deal...

He had information that lead to me to a drug den where kids were playing...it was a wild adventure

So much to fiiind

I got legendary pants now...So that's nice.

[full pivot]

||i was surprised when Johnny showed up during a seemingly random side mission; and I thought it was just his voice and i turned and saw him and was like "oh hello" xD||

[high grotto]

This

Speedrunning the main questline gives you the worst ending possible

[dry copper]

I didn't like him when I first met him. I still don't. He's annoying. A cab hit me and he was all friendly and shit...I was like...who the hell are you...we're not friends. Go eat a dick at the guy

[full pivot]

im nice lol

[dry copper]

I'm nice. I just don't like someone that tells me to commit suicide.

[full pivot]

the context mattered to me

[dry copper]

I wonder if he's the same way if you're a chick

I haven't done that whole thing with a female

I'm surprised they gave players a glans penis slider but no colp/o slider

[bronze wind]

I like when you jump from a high height and it's treated as an act of aggression and you get police sent to kill you

[dry copper]

I hate that you can't climb down from a roof. It's jump or fall.

I climbed up....Come ooooon

[fiery fog]

when you cure waist-down paralysis by poking a guy in a wheelchair

[bronze wind]

You can't fall either because civilians will report it as a crime lol

[dry copper]

The first bug I experienced in the game was when I crouched to sneak and someone walked into me, flipped tf out and ducked like I was going to murder their entire family

The entire apartment block went on high alert

[fiery fog]

when the cyberpunk protaconist is sus!

[fiery fog]

oh, pretty

honestly if there's anything i'll give cdpr from what ive seen is that the world is so damn beautiful

[dry copper]

I wish they had baked the shadows and gave you an option to use dynamic shadows or baked shadows for things like ambient occlusion.

[fiery fog]

baking is cheeeaaaap! much better to render eveerything in realtime

i'm joking of course

[dry copper]

For giant projects, baking just saves a lot of processing overhead. I honestly hate how many coders will code things that are more complex than they need to be to save time writing code that ultimately makes the software even larger and more taxing. It was weird, back in the 90s how coding went from making stuff more efficient with better code, to making things more complex and letting the code prolapse into virtual bloatware.

[fleet moat]

There's a penis slider? I thought it was just two options. Penis 1 and 2

[dry copper]

Penis 1 penis 2, circumsized or uncircumsized.

[fleet moat]

That's hilarious. Love it.

[dry copper]

The female get a boob slider, which I don't know if that's a fair equivalent, since I'm not sure how women view their own boobs.

[full pivot]

does it? i thought it was just normal, large, and small

i didn't see a slider

[dry copper]

Slider is the wrong word to use. It is a toggle, big small and circumsized or uncircumsized.

[full pivot]

i was honest with myself and went small 😔

at least im taller

now im all decked out in neon clothes xD

[dry copper]

I don't like the customization options, myself. Even fallout 76 had more customization...

You can't change your hair, can you?

I haven't found any plastic surgeons or hair stylists in the game

[full pivot]

i haven't either

[dry copper]

A character customization tool will likely be a mod in the future

Editing appearance with a console command

[full pivot]

i would be surprised if there were; its less of a GTA type game for sure

everything is in side quests main quests

wonder what the next game to have fitness will be 😛

i can't believe the last one was GTA San Andreas

[dry copper]

Speaking of fitness...You can level your fitness by jogging around in cyberpunk

That was neat

[full pivot]

and i don't mean a stat i mean able to gain weight, gain muscle, etc

[dry copper]

I was doing the dying light vaulting roofs and saw my body go up

was nifty

[full pivot]

right but i mean visually changing with how fit you are

[dry copper]

oh ha

Fat V

[full pivot]

Sims 2 also had that

[dry copper]

That would be funny

[full pivot]

but I don't think 3 and 4 do

[dry copper]

Friend of mine tried to get me into sims 3. I told him I only had sims 4 and he was like....eww. Apparently (I haven't even played 4), 3 has all of the best features.

I got 4 free on epic.

I think it was epic.

[full pivot]

it has the most "stuff" i would say

the collections alone are ridiculous

apparently you can get tiberium xD

[fleet moat]

The way GTA San Andreas was. I wish more games did that 😆

[dry copper]

I did enjoy San Andreas gym system

I didn't enjoy button mashing, but the concept was nice

[fleet moat]

Exactly.

[dry copper]

Also, the ability to train in martial arts

Change your combat style

That was fun

[fleet moat]

Btw:

...we’ll release two large patches starting with Patch #1 in January. This will be followed by Patch #2 in February. Together these should fix the most prominent problems gamers are facing on last-gen consoles.
So it'll be a bit for me, as I expected. February can be end of Feb, so realistically more like March for me.
https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/news/37076/important-update

[dry copper]

One thing I really like about CP...You feel like a complete loser to start. You're weak af...You need to seriously commit to a play style early, because point distribution is very...unforgiving. I don't even know if there's such a thing as respec

But I do know early points really matter

esp with strategy

Want to sneak into some facility without triggering alarms...you may need technical skill of a certain number or higher to go the only obvious route that doesn't involve violence

[fleet moat]

Very interesting. It'd be nice to have a respec option. But it's good to know you should be careful choosing skills.

[dry copper]

Had to laugh. The builds I see online are like..."be a hacker"....and then shows a dude with hacking abilities mowing things down with machine guns lol

"I hack you with bullets!!"

[raven frost]

honestly I've been going about trying to balance out my character

jack of all trades, master of none in a way

[dry copper]

I want to get cyber psychosis

Hack baddies and turn them into goodies.

Makes baddies turn on each other

[raven frost]

I'm trying to figure out how to get more street cred

like I'm doing side missions to get it up but I can't really figure out if its like a saint's row style thing where wearing certain clothing makes you gain more or

[dry copper]

I think it has to be a mission for something like assault or you're called on to help with

The blue markers on the map

cops, assaults, kill gangs, destroy drug facilities, etc

Just exploring, you can trigger them showing up on the map

They're events

[raven frost]

ye

I'm just wanting to get to the cool tech mods man

I wanna see what it's all about

[fleet moat]

like I'm doing side missions to get it up

[raven frost]

oh please...

[fiery fog]

hey, to each their own...

if that's what cybers your punk

[sleek cloud]

Not too difficult in this game

[fleet moat]

I ruv you guys. I always appreciate the entertainment.

Well, and the insight, on how to play CP, ofc.

[sleek cloud]

You'll have mastered it before even playing it

[broken prairie]

I personnaly dont like watching or talking about story games when I intend to play them

[raven frost]

cars crash my game so I've managed to max out my agility skill @fleet moat

[fleet moat]

I actually enjoy it tbh.

[broken prairie]

Im not gonna lie chief, that does not require a ping

[sleek cloud]

Yeah I've stopped watching streams now they're so far ahead

[raven frost]

I just run everywhere and abuse fast travel

[sleek cloud]

I will be streaming it myself again tomorrow night though

[fleet moat]

Excuse my ping. Point taken. Message received.

[fleet moat]

Yeah, that, I'd understand. Whole playing the game. It's make it impossible.

[fiery fog]

cars crash your game... damn

i mean, i suppose there are like, qualities to going everywhere on foot, right? you get to take in the world

[fleet moat]

Does that mean the game actually crashes though?

[fiery fog]

or you can crouch and get mobbed by 20,000 cyberpolice

[sleek cloud]

I do enjoy just wondering around on foot, so much to take in

[fleet moat]

I'm definitely looking forward to this particular aspect. Exploring.

[sleek cloud]

There's definitely plenty of it to do

[broken prairie]

One thing I saw is that cops spawn out of nowhere instead of driving in from a distance in like GTA

which is really dumb

and lazy really

[raven frost]

the only thing it does is make me wish the parkour elements were left in the game tbh, my runner brain kicks in and makes me want to try wallrunning when I see a surface that looks like I can wallrun on it

[fleet moat]

Uh oh. Back to GTA comparisons.

[raven frost]

then I remember no wallrunning and get sad

[fiery fog]

oh yah i dig that. bionic legs with hooks in the shoes/feet

just everywhere you go youre like a spider but big and cumbersome

[fleet moat]

Was parkour ever mentioned as part of this game?

[raven frost]

at least wallrunning was shown in one of the early gameplay demos

[fiery fog]

plus parkour just makes sense in 2077, like the sheer convenience of being able to roof run through a city of skyscrapers

there's a certain power and control that's given to the player when they can do cool parkour tricks

[full pivot]

traffic is certainly as annoying as other games like this xD

[raven frost]

it bothers me because it feels like the map was almost designed for it given how vertical the map can be

[fleet moat]

Interesting...

Ah, the wall running! That is something that we removed due to design reasons, but there’s still going to be a lot of flexibility in how you move, that’s for sure.
https://www.eteknix.com/cyberpunk-2077-removed-parkour-mechanics-issues/

[broken prairie]

The comparison isnt that its not like GTA, is that cops appear out of nowhere, which doesnt make sense

If an old game could make npcs actually drive up, instead of just dropping them on you, it means theres no reason to take such a lazy approach

[fleet moat]

Devs are so lazy.

Working crazy hours to meet unrealistic timelines created by poor management, but super lazy ofc. /s

Shucks about the parkour mechanics having been removed cuz of technical issues.

[full pivot]

I don't really ever agree with the "no reason" approach to critique because there likely is a reason and it doesn't need to be a nefarious one all the time.

[fleet moat]

Exactly.

[full pivot]

In terms of 2077 the only one that has very little ability to be justified is what they did with the PS4 Xbone; it was just a mistake and a bad decision and they'll likely pay for it later but it may also depend on how they respond to it.

[charred badge]

Distinctions need to be made between leadership and developers in a dev company

[austere lance]

This game took 8 years to make and had an ungodly amount of crunch and multiple delays and they still released it in this state, do they really think they can fix the entire game by February? 😬

@charred badge Leadership fucked the devs on this one, if you couldn't tell by the crunch 😔

[fleet moat]

Not entire game tbh. And prob end of February. Realistically, I'm waiting till March.

[charred badge]

Yeah. I'm referring specifically to "dev laziness"

[fleet moat]

It's usually how it plays out. Not just in the video game dev industry.

[charred badge]

Understaffing and overpromising

[fleet moat]

To them it's usually about making investors "happy". Meaning making a very high return of investment. Not just an acceptable ROI. But a high one.

Been there as a dev.

Been to the quarterly meetings discussing profit. And how a goal of 300% profit met, must continue to happen in the next year, etc.

[austere lance]

Everything important in the game needs fixed. All forms of AI, spawning for vehicles and cops, the ungodly amount of game-breaking bugs there are, etc. All that in two months? Nah, even if they continue crunching their devs. Realistically I'd say June

[full pivot]

Progress and not abandonment has its own meaning too

[fleet moat]

Tbf, the Feb date has to do with bringing old gen consoles to a closer experience to what was advertised. Not having consoles crashing, or barely making it to 30 fps and randomly changing even to 10 fps. Similarly with graphics / textures rendering. Just the basics. But the discussion of overall game bugs, that'll take longer.

[austere lance]

If they couldn't do that in 8 years I doubt it's happening in two months

[fleet moat]

They weren't actively developing for 8 years though. That is not how game dev works.

[balmy plaza]

Hopefully the push to optimise the previous gen will benefit optimisation in general too

[austere lance]

I hate that studios have to announce games before they've started working on them to keep shareholders happy 😤

[winter yew]

coughAnthemcough

[balmy plaza]

Bethesda :(

[full pivot]

i honestly don't mind if a studio announces "hey we wanna make this" but they should just leave it abstract like that

people also need to be able to let it stay nebulous

[balmy plaza]

The starfield trailer really did more harm than good

So did the elder scrolls six trailer

[austere lance]

What if that whole "breathtaking" reveal had waited to happen til last year and not given a release date? People wouldn't have freaked out about waiting and they coulda actually taken their time with developing the game

[full pivot]

its why I ignore most information about any game that's coming out even ones im interested in

i do also get that sometimes they get excited and wanna be like "look at this cool shit we're making!"

but too often it just makes people think "omg revolutionary game incoming!"

[austere lance]

If CDPR had waited they wouldn't have had to rush development and had half of it be crunch 😤

[fleet moat]

Part of the reason why they (executives) do this is to gain revenue to cover costs in advance (pre-orders). Sadly, uninformed / gullible consumers continue to fall for it, not learning from past mistakes. So the cycle continues.

Wasn't CDPR sorta bragging that they'd made full profit at time of release?

But now they must give refunds. So the formula's kinda broken.

Cuz there's the PR aspect, having to backtrack and apologize.

[full pivot]

I've been pleasantly surprised and enjoying the game having fun with it or w/e and that doesn't mean I don't care about all the bad decisions about release or whatever; it doesn't have to be black or white

[austere lance]

The entire shit development process of the game and CDPR's many transgressions over the last two years or so (plus the horrid state the game released in after all of that) is why I ain't buying it. I know one person not buying it does diddly squat but I don't care, I'd rather spend my money elsewhere

[bronze wind]

I'd argue a lot of the time consumers aren't gullible or misinformed, they just don't care lol

I think it's not fair to put the blame on consumers for existing under a system they have zero actual control over

[fleet moat]

Similar happens with big budget films too. Hollywood and its consumers have a f'ed up cycle going on as well.

[charred badge]

Basically star citizen

[fleet moat]

People complain (esp in the US) about a lot of issues in the film industry. But consumers / pockets end up being part of the problem, continuing the cycle.

[charred badge]

TBH I'd be happy were SC ever actually pushed to a state where it wasn't a meme

Anthem too

[fleet moat]

True.

[ripe frost]

@austere lance Hasnt 2077 been in development for something like 8 years?

[fleet moat]

Huh? That was the whole point being discussed about game development not working that way. Most development does not start at the time a game is announced. A prototype does not equate development to actual development of a final product.

[austere lance]

Elon Musk replied to CDPR's apology, lol

[bold crag]

hmm

[glass plinth]

Ha, not surprised to see the refunds being the topic of the day.

Yeah the people who head the studio fucked up and frankly, they still seem to have their heads in the sand a bit.

[winter yew]

isnt that a parody account

[bold crag]

hmm how many people are actually taking the refund oportunity

[glass plinth]

Oh Id almost guess most of the ps4 players

Its that bad.

[bold crag]

probably a lot of people playing on ps4 but apart from that

[austere lance]

@winter yew It's Elon, lol

[fleet moat]

The man is a parody in flesh.

[austere lance]

Everyone on a last gen console

[glass plinth]

LOL

Its a good paradoy account

But yeah, I mean on pc, I have no issues. Even then, Im a minority

The lead directors of the studio are so afraid of the greater investor community, I dont think they have the ability to speak their minds.

Even if they wanted to.

[bold crag]

the question is, on how much money is CDPR missing out on

[glass plinth]

The whole situation will be resolved, but you know who has them by the balls as they say in their own game

lol

Its actually sorta beautiful how prophetic the game setting with corps and how they do things is playing out in reality now

Man, I am more then satisfied with the game though. Besides some tweaks to the AI pathing and various issues like that, the writing is damned good.

The character acting is superb.

Great narrative.

[bold crag]

yeah i watched one of my friends play it a bit, the ai seems like it could use an upgrade

[winter yew]

lmao

GearsForBreakfast just dropped this

https://store.steampowered.com/app/925950/Here_Comes_Niko/

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[glass plinth]

I mean its one of those dont look to close or you see the puppet master occasions

I personally havent got much issue with that

OK, time to go to work, man today is going to be a long one

[bold crag]

well i have seen 3 guards stuck in one door way

[glass plinth]

gota work, then come home and unpack boxes to the new apartment

GOing to be veeeery tired tonight

then day after properly move all the furniture hehe

ANywho! Talk at work, later

[bold crag]

later

[willow crypt]

finished God of War's story. good ending. fun game. a little long and repetitive, but a solid game. i give it a 5.8/7

[charred badge]

They added adverse weather with a death timer, lol

Effected by suit stats

[glass plinth]

Plsanetary terrain sure rocks

I went exploring one of the ice worlds in my cutlass, it was a ball.

Kind curious how Elite handles more light atmosphere worlds down the line withcomplex life

Mores trees and such

I could see it in another 2 years

[charred badge]

Yeah, and I was able to do a multistage courier mission with several jumps without a fatal bug!

Improvement

Got my 8k creds

[glass plinth]

I dont plan on playing star citizen for another 3 years

Im not really impatient either

What happens happens

The improvements from what I first came in are pretty solid

[bronze wind]

ugh i got a mission in CP2077 and || it was a woman asking me to do recon on her bf because she suspected he was cheating. I catch him on camera saying he wants to store her in a relic in case she dies, so he wasn't cheating but also he was going behind her back making a copy of her. I download the footage to show her, then the mission tip says to call her to tell her. I call her and she asks "what did you find" and V just goes "he got champagne with someone, idk anything else" and she goes "oh ok, that's enough" and the mission completed. Very cool ||

[glass plinth]

I guess for me, Ive been part of games which tool 13 years to release

even longer in some cases

So im patient

[raven frost]

I give SC this - the avenger is one my favorite ship designs in any media in recent years

[glass plinth]

Hrmm

Cutlass black for me, always will be.

[raven frost]

there's just something about it that I really like the design of

[glass plinth]

Flying brick of death

Nothing like taking out enemies, just one engine and thrusters and still kicking their asses

The thing just wont die

Obvious why the pirates fly cutlass blacks.

However, Avenger is a great ship

good solid design

Not much use for my playstyle of course

[raven frost]

I just like it from an aesthetic standpoint, both interior and exterior

[glass plinth]

Having a interior is do damned nice

[raven frost]

I also really like that it sorta has living quarters yet still manages to have a decent size cargo area

[glass plinth]

Thats why I swing a black

HUGE cargo space

plentiful living space

Space RV really

I went mining with my friends, used my black to ferry the goods out

Mind you this is on foot mining

[raven frost]

my bro has a cutlass, it was a fun ship to dink around in

I really like the side doors on it, I was doing some dumb shit with my bro and I opened the doors mid flight and shot some people on the ground

good times

but then player persistence became a thing, and now we can't really have fun anymore so :/

[glass plinth]

Player persistence?

Sorry, I probably understand what your saying

Only half alive here

lol

[austere lance]

Werewolf game set in the same universe as Vampire: the Masquerade
https://youtu.be/abRj-BRKlv4

[raven frost]

[x]: the [y]

[fervent fog]

TFW you get over the damage cap

[raven frost]

basically your actions have consequences more or less now - no more starting back from the beginning when the world gets wiped after a new update

[fervent fog]

@bold crag have a feeling you might like this picture

[raven frost]

no more blowing your money on stupid shit for fun

[bold crag]

i mean as long as it isnt anubis

or scylla

[fervent fog]

Cabra

kek

[bold crag]

i mean, that ult damage

[fervent fog]

Oh, no. Cabrakan only deals 800 with ult, probably 1k with pot, while your examples did a lot more

[glass plinth]

Ah, cost consequence, the great equalizer

[fervent fog]

the main feature of cabrakan is polynomicon on his first ability 😂

[bold crag]

hmm hold on cabracan was the earth shield guy right?

[fervent fog]

The double shielded green angry guy, yes

[bold crag]

i confused him with kukulkan for a second

[fervent fog]

He is a guardian but I love playing him as full damage. Just full of memes and 1 hit potential.

[bold crag]

but cabracan is a pain in the ass

[fervent fog]

Yeah 😂

[bold crag]

i played ares and he still annoyed me

[fervent fog]

reeee ares.

[bold crag]

well he is one of the starter heroes

[fervent fog]

gods, but yeah, he is one of those you meet early on

[bold crag]

so i was like, i am gonna play that guy if we need a guardian

[fervent fog]

Ares can be very fun... And mastering him usually leads to yourself suffering from your damage output with a full defense build...

yourself more than your enemies 😂

[bold crag]

the worst is ares vs ares

because whoever procks the ult first loses

so no one uses it ever

[fervent fog]

Actually never had two ares ult each other in my 2k steam hours of playing, that's interesting

[bold crag]

ares gets cc immune while in it so the ares who uses it secod blocks the pull of the first one

talk about an akward situation

[fervent fog]

mhm

[bold crag]

and if you cast exactly at the same time you both block each other

and just look at each other questioning your life decisions

[glass plinth]

Lol

Reminds me of two storm clerics hitting each other in Rift

You set off your ults, destroying everyone except you two

[bold crag]

and then the punching begins

[glass plinth]

Well in the case of two clerics, you just laugh

[bold crag]

whats he gonna do heal the enemy?

[glass plinth]

Hes a fricking tank

Clerics in Rift are a bit unique

The more dmg you take, the stronger the ult you can set off, the more enemies that hit you, the more health you regen

So essentially you want to be in the midst of a big battle, not facing a single assasin

In the case of two clerics hitting each other in a big battle, they are gods. Once they both set off the ult, everyone except them dies and they sit swatting at each other, since they dont have enough incoming dmg to die, or ability to build ult

Its really amusing

Usually you hold back a assasin in the case that happens, and have them try and kill the clerics

best assasin wins the match

lol

[charred badge]

I just have my stuck Titan.
Looks nice though, and is agile enough to land anywhere

[glass plinth]

Aye

Titan isnt bad at all

My cutlass is parked at station

Last I played we did caving expeditions

Had my friends drag his trucks out

The guys a whale, has enough ships for a fleet

at least 10k intothe game

Like he did that on genshin

About 9k

Not a big deal, business tax deduction for being a business cost

hes a streamer

lol

He is so psyched, just landed kingston and corsair as sponsors, working on another big one now

Im not sure, I think Logitech

[charred badge]

The freebie lancer really felt like a cargo plane.
It's impressive

[glass plinth]

Aye

great sound too

A bit like how I love the Diamondback Explorer in Elite

that engine is so distinct

[cinder vessel]

fffuu, semi-tempted by Immortals: Fenyx Rising The Worst Named Game of 2020?

[daring spear]

I wamt it. The name is a little bad but I wamt the gaaaame

[winter yew]

It looks so much fun. Like, good time fun.

[austere lance]

It's apparently surprisingly good

[willow crypt]

i do wanna play it

eventually

the name's okay, a bit cheesy

just 'Pheonix Rising' woulda been better

[austere lance]

Shoulda just stuck with Gods and Monsters

[willow crypt]

they couldn't though right

[cinder vessel]

yeah, think so

[austere lance]

Why?

[cinder vessel]

some trademark/copyright thing i think

[willow crypt]

Monsters, Gods and Men

[cinder vessel]

tho tbh it's not even the name that has me going fffuu it's more that it's Ubisoft and I know you can't trust them not to botch something

[willow crypt]

as long as the game's good, then all is fine

according to SkillUP it is

while he also played Valhalla

and disliked it mostly

i'd agree. 70 hours of boring, repetitive open world

[austere lance]

Why did it get copyrighted but not this

[cinder vessel]

until they start shoving in microtransactions or loads of DLC

[austere lance]

It'll have three expansions

Actual expansions, mind you. Two of them are basically spin-off games

[willow crypt]

i think I'd rather studios make a game, call it quits, then start working on the next. rather than continue with DLCs.

especially if the DLC content is cut content to extend the life and sales of the game

[austere lance]

I'm impressed with the expansions for Immortals, ngl. Like I said, they're different enough to qualify as spin-off games

[charred badge]

The diamondback is a ripoff of Hardwar/G-Poluce, lol

Love it

[austere lance]

One of them has you playing a new character in a completely new Chinese mythology themed world and one has you playing as another new character from a top-down perspective

@willow crypt

[glass plinth]

The Diamondback is just a badass spaceship

Its perfectly useable even in late game

Though Asp Explorer is really better. I mean no one would deny that

Once I play again, I think Ill go for the Krait

[cinder vessel]

better to wait and see how they really turn out than take ubi's word for it though

[austere lance]

I have an Asp X, I'm dumb and use it for passengers tho 😆

[willow crypt]

Merry Christmas @austere lance

[austere lance]

@cinder vessel They have a trailer showing the gameplay and story for each one, lol

[cinder vessel]

it's ubisoft

[sleek cloud]

I love my asp explorer, it's taken me to colonia, sagA now back to bubble

[austere lance]

Yes? Say what you want about Ubi but their last few games have been what the trailers showed 😆

[sleek cloud]

Definitely learning their lesson

[willow crypt]

they're smaller projects tend be be stronger overall

their big games just become bloated messes

and apparently this one is smaller and more compact. more well thought out, fleshed out open world with minimal side quests

[austere lance]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/14/technology/cyberpunk-2077-refund.html

Dude ain't lookin good

[sleek cloud]

Hopefully they ease of the crunch and not rush these patches out

[austere lance]

LOL

[cinder vessel]

i think there are images floating around of him through the course of the Witcher games' development like, "effects of game dev"

[bronze wind]

he's the CEO so

[willow crypt]

that's good of them to offer refunds

[austere lance]

-CDPR
-Ease off the crunch
Pick one

[cinder vessel]

now sony lookin' bad too, since they still have the shitty no refund policy going on

[bronze wind]

i don't really give them much credit for offering refunds honestly

it's like the bare minimum lol. I'm just hoping they will eventually get the game to a stable place. Unfortunately that probably means more crunch.

[austere lance]

They haven't eased off for a year, why would they start now when they're on fire from a game being a disaster? They probably gonna double the crunch to fix it faster

Oop, Zoid beat me to it 😆

[glass plinth]

Id expect so

[bronze wind]

I think one of the most annoying things so far is the UI for the inventory

[cinder vessel]

triple the stress!
fire up all the anxieties!

...for a fuckin' video game

[bronze wind]

like it's ok but sometimes interactions just don't work at all or things do nothing when you'd expect them to do something

[glass plinth]

Really?

[bronze wind]

like selecting a muzzle slot doesn't open up my muzzle attachments, I have to select the tab for muzzle attachments manually

[glass plinth]

Ahhh

Poor flow

[bronze wind]

but if I remove a muzzle attachment it opens the muzzle tab

[glass plinth]

See, that I can respect.

[bronze wind]

well it's clearly a fault cause other slots will open the tabs

[austere lance]

*I think one of the most annoying things so far is the UI
Fixed it for you, lol. The amount of people I've seen ripping on the UI is :grimacing:

The skill trees look like hell

[glass plinth]

I like the skill tree

[bronze wind]

Skill trees are ok but some skills are redundant or just useless

[cinder vessel]

skill bushes

[glass plinth]

I like radial trees

[bronze wind]

also the auto-deconstruct doesn't warn you that there is some "Junk" that sells for almost $1k

[glass plinth]

hehe

I didnt pick auto sell just for that reason

[austere lance]

We all know the horrifying Path of Exile skill......planet is top tier 😆

[cinder vessel]

sphere grid

[daring spear]

Skill amoeba

[glass plinth]

The good thing is, its just a iteration.

[bronze wind]

at the end of the day i don't really care about losing a little money in exchange for some components I'd likely have to buy anyways, it's just the lack of info about the trade off. Seems to be present everywhere, hard to tell what things really do and what they affect

[glass plinth]

I mean look at NMS on launch. Some of the design choices they made were geniunely something sean and his buds loved

However, we didnt

[daring spear]

Skill snowflake

[austere lance]

LOL

[glass plinth]

Absolutely amazing skill tree

[finite hazel]

this cyberpunk 2077 launch isn't going so well huh

[glass plinth]

One of the biggest Id ever seen and it works

[bronze wind]

I bought the projectile launch system which I assume is affected by grenade upgrades. But I bought the perk to not be killed by my own grenade explosions yet it still killed me

[finite hazel]

was reading a bit of news on it

[austere lance]

Buy the throwing knife skill 🤣 @bronze wind

I'm joking, pls don't

[sleek cloud]

It's gone very well for most, just not for those on previous gen

[finite hazel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kccabx/hey_cd_projekt_red_i_think_you_shipped_the_wrong/ lol

[bronze wind]

Projectile launch is cool cause it's literally just a free permanent grenade

with no ammo

[glass plinth]

Aye

I mean my skills are more basic

[bronze wind]

but like, i have no idea how to buff it

[austere lance]

Probably can't, lol

[glass plinth]

Im a boxer, I use blunt weapons, Pistols and Light machine guns

Im a thug

[bronze wind]

reflexes state that it scales the mantis blades which i used for a little

[glass plinth]

It feels right

[bronze wind]

cool says it buffs monowire

i think body says it buffs gorilla arms

[cinder vessel]

some of you didn't

[glass plinth]

Excepted leon

[austere lance]

I've been told you can't sneak up on people and do a takedown with the Mantis Blades, which seems......odd

[bronze wind]

but nothing says it buffs the projectile launcher. I thought it was powered up by grenade damage but based on basic experimentation it seems like no

[green burrow]

Monowire all the way baby

[bronze wind]

mantis blades are more for agile combat, monowire is sneak

but yeah i agree it's weird

[glass plinth]

Baseball is for , well KONK!

[green burrow]

Body also buffs monowire, mantis blades, and gorilla arms

If you upgrade melee damage

[cinder vessel]

do arms actually bulk up with gorilla arms? if not i am super disappointed

[bronze wind]

im just talking the stat points alone, not perks

[glass plinth]

No no, they are a large cybernetic arm

think heavy arms

[austere lance]

Who looked at the blades and thought "These are cool, let's not let players use em for stealth takedowns" 😆

[glass plinth]

They just rip doors open with pure machine power

[bronze wind]

like three of the stats say explicitly that they buff specific mods, the only one not mentioned is the projectile launcher

[cinder vessel]

big giant arms?

[glass plinth]

yup, mech arms

pretty stunningly powerful

[bronze wind]

they're arms that charge with light attacks and then heavy attacks release the charge

[glass plinth]

Like pick up a guy, throw them and bash there skull into jelly

[cinder vessel]

but visually big ol' mech arms?

[green burrow]

Zoid check under assualt

[bronze wind]

honestly the arm modifications are the best mechanics in the game

[glass plinth]

Basically, depends on the model though leon

[bronze wind]

i wish more of the cyberware was like that

[green burrow]

Ye ever since I got monowire that's basically all I use

And quickhacking

[glass plinth]

Legs are damned good, HYPER JUUUUMP!

[bronze wind]

are there projectile launch buffs under assault?

[austere lance]

Like, why can't you use the Mantis Blades or swords or knives to do stealth takedowns. This seems like it's a basic concept

[bronze wind]

lol yeah I have the charge legs

[cinder vessel]

can you get spider legs

[green burrow]

I don't think so specifically zoid, but there's probably explosive damage buffs

[bronze wind]

i agree having a one-button approach to takedowns instead of grab->break neck would be nice

[glass plinth]

You mean like climb walls leon?

[bronze wind]

could be yeah. though engineering has grenade damage buffs that I thought would work

[cinder vessel]

i mean more than two legs

[bronze wind]

would be weird to tie two arm mods to the same stat like that in terms of buffs

[glass plinth]

No definitely not leon

[bronze wind]

there are two leg mods that are essentially the same

[cinder vessel]

rip

[bronze wind]

one is double jump, the other is charge jump

[glass plinth]

Thats not even part of Cyberpunk lore

So it wouldnt fit

[austere lance]

Here I was worried that the game would pull an Assasins Creed Odyssey and not let you assassinate people at a higher level than you, little did I know that the devs worked around that by just not letting you assassinate people 🤣

[cinder vessel]

pfft

[bronze wind]

you can assassinate people, it's just not a single button

you have to grab them and then you choose lethal or non lethal

but lethal is always just break neck

so not very flashy

[glass plinth]

Not that youd want to be

[cinder vessel]

big genitals but no spider legs, smh lack of imagination

[glass plinth]

hehe, dork

[bronze wind]

also one time i lethaled a guy but he kept yelling and gave away my position while his body was motionless on the ground so that was cool

[glass plinth]

As far as weapons go, Im immensely pleased with pistols

The sheer variety of uses

[bronze wind]

precision tech rifles are broken

[glass plinth]

Plus the effects they can apply

HA< tech rifle with Bio radius

SOOO much fun

[austere lance]

But why can't you just Dishonored people and do a one-button takedown and grab the body before it falls, lol? It's basically a standard for first-person stealth games now

[bronze wind]

tech charge weapons shoot through walls and highlight things behind walls when you charge them

[glass plinth]

Fire a round into a group, everyone dies

[bronze wind]

literally just chaining headshots thru walls and from behind cover

[glass plinth]

Yup, that was always one of the scariest fears people had in cyberpunk world

[bronze wind]

the stealth mechanics in general are pretty horrible

[glass plinth]

tech rifles made it necessary to have cams everywhere. Just to keep track of people.

[bronze wind]

silencers are useless on anything other than something like a sniper

[glass plinth]

What?

[bronze wind]

or maybe a revolver

[glass plinth]

yea

I was going to say, I use them on pistols

[austere lance]

Tfw Deus Ex had better stealth mechanics (besides the weird mini-cutscene for every takedown)

[glass plinth]

heavily

[bronze wind]

but it has to be powerful enough to be a OHKO which can be hard if you aren't playing on Normal or playing against higher difficulty enemies, even with a headshot

again, unless it's on a sniper/revolver

[cinder vessel]

the cutscene was a delight every time for me, lmao

[bronze wind]

and the silencers reduce the damage by like 10%+ depending on rarity

[glass plinth]

Have any of you used the slow mo cybernetics?

Fun as heck

[bronze wind]

I have one that slows time for three seconds when I get in sight

[cinder vessel]

the worst mini-cutscenes in a game in my experience are the jarring critical hit/kill ones in Skyrim

[bronze wind]

helps me to not get discovered when I can't see anyone

[glass plinth]

I use mine for close combat with a baseball bat

[austere lance]

Also, why has all the gameplay I've seen had enemies be bullet sponges but I keep seeing people say you can play it like MGS and crouch around with a silenced pistol one-tapping people

Which one is true???

[glass plinth]

Both

[bronze wind]

I think if you dump ashitload of points into stealth damage and pistol damage it's possible

my points are all in tech and intelligence, my cool stat is 3 lol

[glass plinth]

In a scenario where you get in close to enemies, enemies are hard to head shot, so they become bullet sponges

any scenario you can headshot, its single kill

[bronze wind]

that's not true at all lol

[glass plinth]

Just remember, bodies are resilient in 2077, a head is still a head

Really, I headshot everything with a single shot, well barring maybe a beefy boss

[bronze wind]

i have been revealed to enemies multiple times after a silenced headshot that didn't kill

[glass plinth]

I havent had that issue.

[austere lance]

I watched a dude unload an entire SMG mag into a cop's head without even staggering him, LMAO

[glass plinth]

Sounds more like a hit box issue then anything

[bronze wind]

also missions that "care" about you being stealthy don't often really have consequences for actually staying stealthy aside from having to fight guys

[austere lance]

I see a lot of people saying that the game seriously railroads you into combat

[glass plinth]

Almost like we are playing different games

lol

[bronze wind]

like one large mission has an absolutely crucial plot point that means you should absolutely not be discovered.
"need to be silent V"
I get noticed by one guy so I kill everyone because they stay hostile for the rest of the mission
"nice job V"

[austere lance]

LMFAOOOOOO

[sleek cloud]

Usually how my stealth attempts go

[glass plinth]

My stealth, say...

Any of you done the snuff porn studio quest?

Maybe 30 enemies?

[bronze wind]

I do like being able to hack turrets to be friendly and then just wait a minute

and i don't think so, not yet

[glass plinth]

My typical mission is, find the vertical enterance, almost all missions have one

then go through the path to the enemy your tracking, knock anyone out you find

then take the guy down

thats how all my missions go, unless its mission specific I cant

I very rarely kill people

Unless its specified

[bronze wind]

I thought about starting a new run and just dumping literally every possible point into Cool just to see how it played

[glass plinth]

It plays fun

[sleek cloud]

Sounds cool

[glass plinth]

I have cool 7, int 4, Reflex 8, body 8

[bronze wind]

I imagine it's fun until forced combat against bosses for the story lol

[glass plinth]

Im not much a hacker

[bronze wind]

Yeah I'm talking like, all intro points into Cool, then all level up points into Cool

I have 13 int, 14 tech, 8 reflexes, 10 body, and 3 Cool

[glass plinth]

Cool is very handy

No perks in it yet

Just useful for talking foes down if possible

Lol we are so opposite

Thats great

[bronze wind]

Dialogue is kinda lame in terms of options though

[glass plinth]

Really not as lame as you think. I managed to get people to turn on the gangs they worked for and siding with me

[bronze wind]

It's just
[] Yes
[] Disgruntled Yes
[] No
[] Corpo/Street/Nomad Yes

[glass plinth]

hehe

Ive had more dialogue options

like up to 7

at once

[bronze wind]

Well yeah there are always side things

I do like that taking the non-progressing options will sometimes open up new stuff, but other than that it doesn't feel like I really have much choice in anything

[glass plinth]

You also have street cred options, cool options, corpo in my case, karma options

Hrmm bunch of others too

I like to be intimidating corpo most of the time

Though, I am compassionate at times too

[bronze wind]

Like, a yes or no to continuing a quest isn't a choice that is impactful aside from maybe losing access to an ending or something. It's just me deciding to not do anything at that time.

[glass plinth]

Corpo .. man, corpo rocks

its opened so many doors

Some of them were entirely unexpected

[bronze wind]

My point is you'd likely be able to open the same doors with any other origin

that's what I've heard at least

[glass plinth]

Mostly

I say mostly because my friends nomad seems.. more limited

In odd ways

Definitely going to be fun being nomad

[bronze wind]

I think I'll do Cool Street Kid next

then maybe full melee Nomad

[glass plinth]

Hrmm, Im a engineer corpo

[sleek cloud]

Currently on nomad

[glass plinth]

I think with nomad, Ill be a hacker, sniper type

[sleek cloud]

Nearly chose street kids

[glass plinth]

Street kid Im going full melee

[bronze wind]

I did corpo cause I thought it would get me access to high tech earlier but it doesn't seem to have really done anything lol

[raven frost]

I think one of my next playthroughs is gonna be melee-only until I get enough street cred to get more advanced mods then I'll become a walking weapon

[glass plinth]

Man, charged pistols are badass

[charred badge]

Unlimited projectile weapon? Rockit launcher lol

[glass plinth]

One of the perks of going slow in the first main quest and knocking the entire tower out was, I had all the time in the world to loot

[charred badge]

Ahh, the Fanz run

[glass plinth]

I still cant believe I did that without reloading

that was one LOOOOONG mission

[cinder vessel]

all this talk of next runs but uhh, game is dummy thicc

[glass plinth]

I think in general some of the game choices lead down one of 5 main different outcomes

a lot of impact on which quests show up too

Whos your friends and enemies and such

of course there are 2 secret endings as well

The 3 main arcs are definitely very different from what i saw

[charred badge]

What's the Neutral path, I wonder

[glass plinth]

I wonder..

I dont know

[charred badge]

SMT Neutral is generally "Kill everything powerful and let the normies decide how to live"

[glass plinth]

I cant be sure what the paths are.

I just know they exist

Im just following my gut

No meta this first playthrough

I do know out of the romances, only one remotely intrigues me

[austere lance]

Is it Judy

AKA the only romance anyone cares about, lol

[glass plinth]

Panam

Im more into Surly girls

Now imagine putting someone with this accent in a game, just to fuck with people: https://www.yahoo.com/news/cornish-grandpa-stuns-tiktok-thick-204005807.html

Cornish is geniunely a wonderful accent

I only understand it, because I have a uncle with that accent lol

WOOT!

I managed to snag a 3070 for 500 bucks!

Ill be reselling it of course

[austere lance]

https://twitter.com/mgs2master2/status/1338533404615135235?s=19

Mgs2master2 (@mgs2master2)

So today’s update, Sony support refused another refund for #Cyberpunk2077. They said even if the devs say refund it, they won’t do it. Lied about the game not being broken and lied about what CDPR stated. Tl:dr you are stuck with a broken game, wait til patched. Some support.

Twitter · Dec 14, 2020, 5:16 PM

[glass plinth]

The sheer lunacy of the current price trend is nuts.

[cinder vessel]

it's always been nuts 👀

[glass plinth]

Ohfuck you sony

Well, nuttier then usual

Price gouging is normal

However, what we are seeing now.. Yeah never

Even this summer wasnt this bad

[cinder vessel]

yeah I don't get how Sony is able to maintain this no refunds stance when even Valve of all companies has had to loosen up and permit refunds

[glass plinth]

Sony ..

They are dicks

[cinder vessel]

Then again, does Nintendo allow for refunds?

I suspect Microsoft might, but not sure

[glass plinth]

No clue

I cant imagine CDPR is going to be able to do much.

[austere lance]

Microsoft does if it's broken

[cinder vessel]

lol

[glass plinth]

I mean at this point, once a product is sold by someone else, its not like they can do anything

Distributed that is

[cinder vessel]

Right, CDPR at most might be able to be hit for something regarding how they mishandled providing information about the console versions, but that would probably be the extent of it

Whereas Sony would be hit for not allowing refunds...Again, which I'm surprised they haven't been already tbh

[glass plinth]

On the bright side, my friends version on ps5 runs well enough

He definitely wont be trying to refund.

Eh, not surprising really

ps5 is a pc basically

[cinder vessel]

well, so is a ps4, just older

[fiery fog]

a thought for you: have you ever stepped into an elevator in a video game and watched people filter in and out of it? have you ever been in a video game elevator with another person who wasn't strictly related to the game's plot or subplots?

video games provide an interesting example of liminal spaces, or "places that are but shouldn't be", with the various implementations of, well... people-less elevators

[cinder vessel]

you mean the ideal elevator ride?

[fiery fog]

the pathfinding for elevators is expensive and messy and often requires a significant amount of thought on the programmers' part that could take up hundreds of hours, so it just isn't something that's done

pretty much. video games present the ideal elevator ride with no people, no interruptions, and it's a lot stranger for it

meanwhile we've perfected the pathfinding for stairs, trains, procedurally-generated terrain... but seemingly not elevators

[cinder vessel]

I've had a lot of strange elevator rides, i guess, lol

[fiery fog]

i've been thinking a lot about jacob geller's exploration of video games and it's kinda just something i noticed

[glass plinth]

Lol Im addicted to vertical routes

A LOT

[keen dome]

https://i.redd.it/45d5x4o587561.jpg 3090 comparison

[glass plinth]

Overall, Id say they took the simplest route to develop ai, art, environments and such, due to the density of it all. Otherwise, the game wouldnt have been out until much later, another 2 years

Good old gigabyte

They really do seem to make cards with lower energy consumption. Just like my old 970.

Its a fantastic card really.

Id still go for a 6900 though over a 3090

[keen dome]

https://i.redd.it/m6fdidqqxuz51.jpg 3070

https://i.redd.it/azi7u20l2o461.jpg 3060ti

https://i.redd.it/ty15s5vg9qz51.jpg 3080

[glass plinth]

So by going by these charts

If you were doing 1080, 3060ti would be amazing

for cost to frames

[keen dome]

yep

which I game at 1080, I don't see a point in going higher

[glass plinth]

Even good at 2k

Hell, really good

I mite trade inmy 5700xt for one then

I could easily do that

Im fortunate I bought a Sapphire pulse

These 5700xt had almost no issues. So they resell like hotcakes.

[keen dome]

I would get one if I had the cash lol

[glass plinth]

hehe

[keen dome]

I doubt my titan would resell tbh

[glass plinth]

At least I have my 5700xt for now. Its really beefy. I am getting stellar frames on cyberpunk

well over 100 fps

I have it at 100hz screen locked

No issues

[keen dome]

I'm barely getting 40 😦

[glass plinth]

Huh

whats your gpu?

[keen dome]

gtx titan x

[glass plinth]

Wtf

Id expect that to do better then a 5700xt

Bizzare

[keen dome]

Mine is like the first gen, came out with the 980 I think

[glass plinth]

Ahh

Yeah, to much generational divide I guess

rdna really did bring amd up to par with nvidia

and rdna2 is just straight badass

Super lucky I got mine as cheap as I did

[keen dome]

hey someone posted a fix to use more cores, anyone remember that?

for cp2077

[glass plinth]

Be careful!

[keen dome]

I cant find it

[glass plinth]

The game is very cpu hungry, if you have a older cpu, DONT DO it

youll flat out melt it

Now if your on a 6 or 8 core

[keen dome]

I have a ryzen 5 3600

[glass plinth]

YES please

See

your in the perfect place

Just be aware, the game is having some issues with AMD cpus

I assume theyll fix that soon enough

Threading issues I assume

[keen dome]

uh one sec, lip bleeding pretty good

ouch, busted a cold sore open x.x

[glass plinth]

Ooph

I split my fingernail

It hurts

[keen dome]

ouchie 😦

but ya I cant find that post at all

[glass plinth]

Bleh, if i wasnt at work id dig it up

[keen dome]

hmm back scrolling I didn't find it, other than the ram allocation issue

this was soemthing else about editing a hex address from 0f to 02

tol make it so AMD cpu cores are used

https://github.com/yamashi/PerformanceOverhaulCyberpunk/wiki found an easier way then hex editing myself. And fps is about 44 now

[glass plinth]

Im sorta happy i use a old cpu

4690k

Old, but reliable as hell

I havent ran into a game in so long I cant just power through

Eh, eventually Id like to upgrade, but not much reason as of yet

Even Cyberpunk wasnt a issue lol

[keen dome]

WHAT IN TARNATION IS THIS

[wide kestrel]

what the fuck

who fucking ruined a perfectly good car

burning money would be a better use

[fleet moat]

I dunno. But I'm a fan

[keen dome]

I know! Those tires are horrible

It would be better if it was some dancing furries, ngl 😛

[wide kestrel]

Can you imagine driving that down the street???

[silver sparrow]

in abu dhabi

[fleet moat]

I just dig the dancing egirl

[austere lance]

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/12/14/ark-2-coming-to-xbox-series-xs-console-launch-exclusive/

Ark II is Xbox exclusive at launch apparently

[keen dome]

fucking kidding me?

[coarse swift]

Phil Spencer at it again

Keeping the console wars alive.

Imagine making games exclusive.

[austere lance]

People were making fun of Xbox for not having exclusives like PS, this is the result 😬

[keen dome]

I don't see why they chose this game when the first is not exclusive

[austere lance]

Apparently the first was Xbox exclusive (for consoles, obviously the pc version had been out for a while by then) for like two years

I did not know this, interesting

[keen dome]

Either did I but this article suggests its only going to be xbox series x

[austere lance]

Yep

S|X

The Ark franchise has a long-storied history with the Xbox community. Ark: Survival Evolved was a console launch exclusive in the Xbox Game Preview program in December 2015, gaining valuable feedback from Xbox One players along the way before launching in August 2017.

Apparently history repeats itself

[fleet moat]

History always repeats itself.

[coarse swift]

History always repeats itself.

[winter yew]

too bad I've had to put Doom Eternal on the easiest setting to get any enjoyment out of it's gameplay mechanics

maybe after a run through the campaign I can try upping the difficulty later

[fleet moat]

You been finding all the figurines?

Forget the proper term.

Little Doom dudes. So cute.

Collectibles.

[winter yew]

yea i found a couple

I just killed the second Hell Priest

i'm still amused that Microsoft's store tried to tell me the game was incompatible with my system

i'm like bruh, I'm using higher spec than the RECOMMENDED on the Steam page for the game, it runs fantastic.

i7-8700 / GTX 1070

if that's not good enough then idk what to tell ya Microsoft lmao

[fleet moat]

Microsoft's store on PC? Weird. I didn't know it does that.

[glass plinth]

Ugh

I will not be taking part of ark 2

SImply because fuck you jeremy.

Sigh

I love ark, but the way they develop the games at that studio, the odds of it going well arent good.

By some magic it did develop well, I mite check it out after a few yearsd

[dry copper]

Isn't that the studio that made and didn't finish the newest iteration of "Dark and Light"?

Same publisher. I see.

Chinese video game company and a Virtual Network Operator headquartered in Suzhou, China

I need a good strong lemon tea

This lipton crap is just that.

[raven frost]

hmmm

cybwrpunk or vr tonight

what am I feeling

[dry copper]

aaaahahahahahahahaha\

https://www.pcgamer.com/vin-diesel-isnt-just-starring-in-ark-2-hes-also-working-on-the-game/

Vin Diesel: How can I help!?
Ark 2 people: Do you know how to make coffee?

[keen dome]

Wat!!

Not only is it xbox only but one of the hottest actors is in charge of it

And in it

This some bullshit!

[dry copper]

Hottest?

You consider Vin Diesel hot?

He's charismatic and he has a nice brooding voice, but...hot?

[weak thunder]

AI Dungeon is wild at times.

"I Bet"

[fleet moat]

He groot

[dry copper]

I mean...I guess, if you like dad bods.

I like Vin.

[daring spear]

People do have different tastes
And sometimes people become more attractive to you if you already like other aspects about them

[fleet moat]

Yeah, I def do not find Vin Groot attractive. But physical attraction is very relative and subjective.

[dry copper]

Damn it spirit coming out with the psychology

[keen dome]

Yes yes I do like him, he is hit to me xD

[daring spear]

I do that sometimes

[dry copper]

It is called the halo effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

[daring spear]

Oh! Now that, I didn't know. Makes sense for it to have a name though

[dry copper]

One of the reasons people like Trump is in part due to a psychological trope he abuses to get them to.

[fleet moat]

😇

[dry copper]

Reciprocal liking

"We tend to like people who like us—or who we believe like us"

[daring spear]

[fleet moat]

Trump. Having a halo effect. Imagine that.

[daring spear]

I wish the Xbox would update faster

[fleet moat]

[dry copper]

new xbox?

[daring spear]

No

Same One S we've had

[dry copper]

I saw that new playstation whatchamagadget. Looks nifty. Solid looking dvd player.

Does it even have a drive?

[daring spear]

One S?

[austere lance]

The only Halo effect I care about is the one that Master Chief stomps on

[dry copper]

Nah, the playstation

[daring spear]

Oh

Idk

[dry copper]

The big one that looks like a mini jaguar transformer fetus

[austere lance]

PS5 has a disc drive, PS5 Digital does not

[dry copper]

Or how I'd imagine it to

There's a digital console?

That's wild. I didn't think sony would be so....arrogant. Is it at least discounted?

[austere lance]

Both platforms have a digital-only console. PS5 Digital and Xbox Series S

[wide kestrel]

tbh I think the drive is worth it

cuz there’s less stuff to store

plus you don’t have to download anything when you first get a game

[fleet moat]

"Digital console." That makes me think of a non-hardware console. Like the concept of Stadia I guess?

[austere lance]

PS5 Digital is $100 cheaper than PS5 and Series S is $200 cheaper than Series X. Series S is also weaker tho

[dry copper]

Can't you just buy a drive and format it for the console separately?

[austere lance]

No

[dry copper]

laaaaaaame

[fleet moat]

Nowadays it makes sense to me. Like with laptops, when they stopped selling with DVD drives. For consumers who mostly consume digitally downloadable media.

[dry copper]

Plus you can buy portable disk drives that plug into USB

[wide kestrel]

There’s most likely no way to connect it without modifying some PCBs, software, firmware, and a whole sleuth of stuff.

[dry copper]

When I got my first predator helios, it came with a portable disk drive.

[charred badge]

Halo effect
Ok now I'm imagining an epic crossover

[dry copper]

Halo Mass Effect....The more you like it, the more you like other things about it.

That would be a hilarious commercial, though a little on the nose.

[austere lance]

Me and Spirit are playing Phogs, let's see how long it takes for us to kill each other irl 🤣

[fleet moat]

Has anyone player Morekredd? 👀

[coarse swift]

Oi keep that back in #archived-old-serious Same argument goes with Biden.

[fleet moat]

Omg why is controlling two separate characters at the very same time, one with each thumbstick, so f'n difficult sometimes

[winter yew]

That sounds awful

[fleet moat]

Omg it's soooo hard

The brain has a hard time handling it lmao

[winter yew]

What game are you playing?

[fleet moat]

MORKREDD is the name

It's a puzzle game. You can play co-op, 2 players.

My friend wanted us to play. I figured I should try it out while I wait for him to get on. And holy cow, managing 2 characters at the same time with the thumbstick is making my brain feel very inadequate lmao

Thumbs sometimes work well together, other times, not so much

[austere lance]

In Haven you control both characters in combat with the two thumbsticks, it works surprisingly well

[fleet moat]

In this one, you have a light focused on both characters, leading the direction you should move towards. If at any point, either character is in the dark for too long, you die.

[austere lance]

Ew

[winter yew]

Interesting I'll have to look it up

[austere lance]

Haven my favorite indie game this year, ngl

[fleet moat]

When you start to realize you're controlling the wrong character, brain goes into panic and sometimes the thumb needing adjustment does the proper action, other times, not so much 😆

This one's part of GamePass.

And it's got RED in the name. It's prob gonna be more entertaining playing it co-op with my buddy.

I've never played Haven. This one's a puzzle game. So it's super chill.

[winter yew]

The art style is nice, looks cute, hope you guys have fun

Haven't looked into Haven either

[fleet moat]

Ty! And yeah, art style's def nice

[winter yew]

Oh I remember seeing a bit of Haven

I like the games color palette

[austere lance]

Haven is on Game Pass and has my favorite relationship I've ever seen in a game, ngl. You play as a couple who escaped from an intergalactic society that's basically the space version of The Giver book

[winter yew]

Don't got Game pass but the game looks fun, probably be a long while before I can check it out

[austere lance]

The soundtrack is

https://youtu.be/3Cg6XuvQlV0

[winter yew]

Oh ~ good

How excessive are their conversations during the music? Sometimes I turn voices off in games just so I can enjoy the soundtrack more

[austere lance]

They talk a lot (understandably, they're a couple stuck alone on an alien planet and exploring it 😆)

Doesn't interfere with the soundtrack tho, they usually just say funny stuff while out exploring

[fleet moat]

Wow. It's insane what a crazy broad selection we have with GamePass and their EA Pass promotion. Geez! So many games to play I just realized Fallen Order's there too.

[austere lance]

Yee

Fallen Order, you mean my personal 2019 GOTY that got snuffed by the awards cuz it came out too late? 😤

[fleet moat]

Pretty f'n sweet. Now I just gotta make room in my hard drive

[austere lance]

Haven good, play Haven

[fleet moat]

Yeah, added that too It's what got me down the rabbit hole lol

[austere lance]

And it's smol

File size

I'm like 12 hours into it, lol

Here's the blurb thing about it

[winter yew]

All Sony gave me is Just Cause 4 nty

But I always love me some good indie games 😊

[austere lance]

Plus the art style is

Combat

[fleet moat]

Downloading...slowly, as usz

I'm so excited for Fallen Order too

[austere lance]

OK, no more pics 😆

[fleet moat]

So pretty.

Hold up.

Whaaaa? Haven has co-op too!

Did you and Spirit play it together?

[austere lance]

"A RPG adventure about love and freedom, to play solo or with a special someone"
No, lol. Requires too much coordination in combat, she'd probably toss me off the balcony 🤣

[fleet moat]

Now I wanna play it with Erik

[glass plinth]

My poor dads realizing how much work he has ahead of him moving

[coarse swift]

Artstyle reminding me of Temtem a bit

[willow crypt]

Worms Rumble is fun

and it's free with PS plus right now

[keen dome]

Ya moving is hard, it's why I don't want to again. May pay someone to do it loo

[charred badge]

No wait, the better one

[cinder vessel]

sitting, 10/10

[willow crypt]

standing is healthier

[cinder vessel]

wait till i stand on u

[sleek cloud]

seats were too cold to sit on

[austere lance]

Tfw he isn't joking
https://youtu.be/VZzZKuQUguk

😔

[cinder vessel]

this is why you just say screw it and don't even try to make money through youtube but through stuff like patreon or ko.fi or whatever, or just treat youtube as a side thing rather than a main thing

[keen dome]

YouTube needs to fall

[full pivot]

my only criticism is that there are plenty more constant upload types to pick on than Markiplier haha

[keen dome]

I didn't watch the video because ohone but what was the jist of it?

[full pivot]

also unfortunately some massive channels with mass views aren't even really people necessarily

well it was just talking about how creating complex videos wasn't frugal anymore because people just hire editors and slap together compilations of twitch streams and post them constantly for huge views

[austere lance]

Yep

Or just play friggin Among Us

[full pivot]

i would say thats more applicable to the YT house people though

[cinder vessel]

or whatever the game of the month is

fuckin' deep space nine ep just hit me in the feels

went into it thinking it was gonna be a cameo of some aliens from the next generation and NOPE

[ripe frost]

You know that feeling when you ||go to avenge some child killers so you burn half the gang alive and dismember the rest with a katana, and when the sellers admit that they have more than one recording of these child murders so you have to be more specific and so you just decapitate them both on the spot?||
Cyberpunk knows.

I actually had to change my gear for that mission. I was running nonlethals

@full pivot You might enjoy this "spoiler" (maybe not tho idk)

It was probably the most satisfying massacre of the game so far

[full pivot]

Ok Rorschach 😌

[cinder vessel]

okay what the fuck is this fourth season of DS9

first ep is extended klingon bullshit, second is an emotional punch, third is a fuckin' tease

The third ep is like ||the episode in Star Wars Clone Wars where they inexplicably have Anakin find out his shitty future only to pull some shit so he'll go through with it regardless & become Vader because canon bullshit||

[fleet moat]

If anyone here has not played Human Fall Flat, especially co-op with one or more friends, I highly recommend it. Silly hilarity for me nonstop. Stomach actually hurts from laughter, a lot. Oh and it's part of GamePass.

It's also nice how they keep updating it, adding more levels, over time.

[full pivot]

Ive always wanted to play it coop

[fleet moat]

Omg it is soooo much more fun, and funny co-op. Especially when players like me screw stuff up. The characters get in all sorts of hilarious positions. 😆 Love it. I wish we were on same platform so we can play 😭

[full pivot]

We just have to cause them to cross-platform all games; just like with destiny haha

[raven frost]

hff is great

I'd be willing to play it with others at some point

[fleet moat]

I wish I was also on PC

[full pivot]

I mean technically you are they just need to stop lying to themselves now 😜

Ive always though Xbox not working in tandem with Windows was pretty silly anyway