shit idk where my phone is
#other-games
echo hill
cinder vessel
lol
austere lance
Idk why some games have stats tracked and others don't
cinder vessel
just depends on what stats the devs decide to track and which they decide to let you see
winter yew
Yes it is.
winter yew
69 😏
austere lance
Damn son
cinder vessel
@charred badge btw which Gundam Breaker did you play last?
meager panther
Achievement unlocked 69. Well done bee @echo hill
echo hill
thank you gamer 🙂
charred badge
You will give me a eggneck
winter yew
Shut up, I beat you that to joke.
meager panther
I am only opening the chat now
winter yew
smh my head
meager panther
No i came to ask lile does anyone else even find it good to look at
Like the game looks so "bad"
winter yew
WHOA, even that trailer showed a serious drop in FPS.
which trailer?
A part from that, it looks pretty nice.
I'll more than likely pick it up.
Dual Universe.
overview trailer?
Yes Sir.
looks cool!!
Gamer is right though, is a lot of bad being shown but I guess limitations has forced that.
I'm for sure gunna check it out, I'm a sucker for that type of thing.
austere lance
Some games keep track of wacky stats, lol
meager panther
I am talking about the asthetics of the game
They need to hire artists and a new design team
Even the default ms paint 3d app has better lighting and visuals than this game
winter yew
I can't wait to build a city and then fly a spaceship in to all the buildings.
raven frost
hell yeah dude
winter yew
Where is it being sold?? Steam?
cedar ingot
starbase looks cool :)
winter yew
Looks like their own launcher.
Pledge packs similar to Star Citizen it looks like.
Quite off putting if I'm being honest.
oh boy
raven frost
yeah no I'm not putting up with that shit again
winter yew
I'm still sad about how Mechwarrior 5 ended up 😦
raven frost
SC should've abandoned pledge packages a long time ago but no
cinder vessel
@winter yew oh, what's up with Mechwarrior 5?
lmao Dual Universe always looked pretty...rough to me
winter yew
just really poor AI and the story is a bit meh
cinder vessel
oh =/
winter yew
that and its still Epic exclusive so I haven't really bothered to touch it myself
but
I've seen plenty of actual gameplay and reviews to trust that it may not be an ideal game for me
austere lance
Apparently Stadia just did some sort of "big" stream and it was only 16 minutes long, lol
cinder vessel
it's so good
raven frost
cinder vessel
NO
austere lance
LMFAOOOOOO
raven frost
that's literally all that was announced
austere lance
Mmmm, FIFA on Stadia 😩
winter yew
oh holy shit lma0
raven frost
also PUBG
cinder vessel
tbh Acey I need DxM to go on sale too because the only way I'll ever try its multiplayer is on PC, lol
austere lance
Tbh they should just cut their losses, xCloud already won
raven frost
and pubg stadia merch??????????
winter yew
lol
austere lance
I just want Aragami to go on sale so I can scratch my Mark of the Ninja itch 😭
raven frost
from a Verge article:
Google is also planning to launch Crayta exclusively on Stadia this summer, free for Stadia Pro members. Crayta is a collaborative game creation and sharing platform powered by Unreal Editor 4, and players of varying skill levels will be able to build multiplayer games with Crayta. Co-op game Get Packed is also launching on Stadia today, priced at $19.99, with campaign and versus modes for up to four players.```
austere lance
I CALLED IT, THERE'S FIFA 🤣🤣🤣
meager panther
Fifa 
Tbh i see many people playing fifa
Just plug in your internet on tv and play fifa
austere lance
Wtf, it has knockoff Dreams?
raven frost
even stadia fans aren't happy about the stream being so short
meager panther
Lmao
cinder vessel
stadia fans be like google show us ur love pls and google be like sorry we busy
coarse swift
Was probably about the best way for Stadia to succeed, by partnering with the whale-fed company.
Remembering that there was Stadia exclusive FFXV content now... 
austere lance
So we know xCloud is gonna have massive server buildings full of One X consoles (which will be replaced by Series X's later) running games for you to stream, what's gonna be running Stadia games?
@cinder vessel You'll appreciate this, lol
In some examples provided by Microsoft, the new developer tools allow creators to make multiplayer matches in the cloud more seamless by moving all connections to the same server, and enables games to scale font size depending on the screen you're using
Maybe they'll start using that tech with every game
cinder vessel
oh ffs you don't need your shit on servers to scale the fucking fonts
rigid haven
I'm very surprised font scaling isn't an option in most games these days
wet warren
Ikr. I clearly love having a hard time reading text in such a tiny font
rigid haven
There's this one thing, a private server for the game Phantasy Star Online Blue Burst, which let's you change the entire font
Obviously some work better than others but it's cool as shit
cinder vessel
I'm surprised developers don't seem to realize many folks aren't sitting directly in front of their displays
"what, you mean most people don't sit like a centimetre from their screen?"
charred badge
I'm sorry, what?
who the hell thinks a pile of full consoles is the ideal streaming host setup?
the tiny font is because stupid big screen setups
austere lance
Nobody? Was just curious what's gonna be running Stadia games
charred badge
I have nightmares of ps3 borderlands 2 font
I mean, all servers for BB are private now, lol
cinder vessel
wait how does tiny font make sense on stupid big screens
wouldn't that just make it look even smaller
dry copper
I would like red dead redemption 2 to go on sale for 52% off
brisk merlin
pc
austere lance
Ain't it on PC Game Pass too?
charred badge
@cinder vessel bigger screen with same proportions means bigger text
cinder vessel
but you'll also probably be further from the screen to take it all in...so...
charred badge
a lot of people have stupid big desktop setups
cinder vessel
🤷♀️
echo hill
heh... @charred badge have you seen mine?
charred badge
How many dragons will be flying backward in that fight
austere lance
All of them, hopefully 
cinder vessel
@winter yew I finally took the time to practice the move in Daemon x Machina I mentioned, spinning around while firing and figured it out.
Not only that, but I found out it doesn't cost ammo when you manage it! I think I'm gonna call it the Blindfire Twirl. It's wicked!
naive mantle
New song from one of my favorite artists just released about 40 minutes ago and I wanted to share it here for everyone. His voice is beautiful. https://youtu.be/mXhWG4LXxGE
glossy kestrel
dry copper
I HEARD SHOGUN TTL WR IZ FRE!!
winter yew
Ubisoft has chosen to reveal Assassins Creed by hosting a livestream on Youtube of a dude creating, I assume, game art.
rigid haven
Interesting
proper dawn
aaa need a name for my stardew valley farm :))
winter yew
MixGrape and just farm Grapes.
proper dawn
Lol
silver sparrow
call it Animal (Farm) 😮
winter yew
👌
winter yew
What I've taken from this is that digital art is nowhere near as complicated as I thought it was.
I'm not saying it's easy, far from it, but I thought there was a lot more to it.
BUT, I guess anything is like that. It's difficult cause I don't know how to, becomes easy as soon as I do.
charred badge
@cinder vessel not Spin Attack? Hiyaaaaaa
@ripe frost https://youtu.be/pxPkrWe7Q88 mmmm
charred badge
Fan made
ripe frost
This fan needs to make his own game lol he knows what we want
charred badge
Yeah, it's pretty great
He did a cobra first
On the other hand, that's why SC is getting lots of money
The scale is interesting, though. It definitely sets even the smallest Elite ships as more gunboat than fighter
dry copper
You should see the guided tour inside of my NMS ship
I'm like....BLOOP, inside. Turn my head around....There's the back!
charred badge
Lol
Tour of Colossus: "And here's the CB space radio!."
Tour of nautilon: "Ignore the radar panel. It's just cosmetic."
@ripe frost FF at least keeps trying to innovate with each mainline... usually for no good reason and with mediocre results past 9, but hey.
ripe frost
FF? You never played 12?
cinder vessel
@charred badge if it was as simple to execute, 100%, but as it takes a bit of precise timing...Twirl it is
charred badge
@ripe frost 12 was just a souped up version of .hack, and I wasn't a fan of .hack.
@ripe frost
oops dubbaping
ripe frost
I farted
charred badge
MMO tab targeting is fine due to the limitations of thousands of players
MMO tab targeting in a single player game is mehhhhh
at least it makes sense in .hack due to the theming
ripe frost
Indeed
winter yew
Honestly yeah, it does.
austere lance
I'm not bothering with even looking at the trailers unless it has all the fake RPG shit removed
winter yew
AC Odyssey is genuinely the best AC game for a LONG while.
(My opinion entirely)
It's got me excited for this new one so that's something.
meager panther
I played origins after Odyssey it felt so meh
Odyssey at least is good
Minus the grind that is
austere lance
I didn't bother with Odyssey, Origins pissed me off
meager panther
Odyssey is so much better than origins
winter yew
I ignored Odyssey because of Origins and regretted waiting to play.
austere lance
Wannabe RPG=/=Assassins Creed
winter yew
Odyssey is 👌
winter yew
I'm 220 hours playtime in Odyssey.
meager panther
I went to Cleopatra's home and it looked so bland. So i stopped playing after that lol
winter yew
You should give it a chance Soul.
austere lance
They shouldn't even be AC games, shoulda just went with a new franchise
winter yew
Oh I absolutely agree with that.
austere lance
The only thing they have to do with the franchise is like two plot points
cinder vessel
Assassin's Creed is 100% no longer about assassinations or anything, not that it ever did that terribly well to begin with...
rigid haven
The last ac I played was syndicate and I liked the aesthetic of that
austere lance
I grew up playing the Ezio trilogy and got all three games as they released, then I got AC III and liked it. Black Flag was 😍, didn't touch Unity, and I liked Syndicate. Tried Origins and wanted to die within two hours
Grindy bs with shit combat, stealth, and lootboxes
winter yew
Origins is a major downfall.
austere lance
After that disaster I wasn't touching anything else, Ubi obviously doesn't give a damn and is just trying to farm money from diehard fans and RPG players
cinder vessel
tfw even diehard RPG fans don't wanna put up with their beloved grinds, lmao
austere lance
I might consider the next game if it has none of this godawful excuse for an RPG bs
winter yew
The RPG elements are nice, I hope they keep them.
I'd even go as far and say I hope they are implementing something similar in to WD3.
cinder vessel
Personally RPG is more about narrative choice than stat garbage to me
winter yew
The narrative choices in AC Odyssey are pretty fucking deep.
austere lance
Stat garbage in AC 😬
cinder vessel
So like if they kept the narrative choices and scrapped the stat junk I'd probably be cool with it
austere lance
Surprised they didn't make Odyssey online-only with an MMO hub
Oh wait, that'll probably be the new one
winter yew
After the backlash from Breakpoint, I doubt it.
cinder vessel
They're still busy trying to salvage Ghost Recon: whatwasthisonecalled?
There we go
winter yew
Breakpoint genuinely fucked them up.
austere lance
Good
winter yew
Absolutely
cinder vessel
Not good, they'll just salvage it to a mediocre state like they did with The Division 1 and make another later, whether in the same franchise or not
winter yew
They should have just stuck with the Wildlands formula IMO.
Or at least expand upon it.
austere lance
Maybe they realized people don't like stat shit. A ton of people were like 👀 when Ghost mode let you completely remove the looter aspects and turn it into a normal third-person shooter
cinder vessel
whaddya talkin' about i like my bullet sponges, we really get to know each other by filling each other up with bullets, it's v. romantic
austere lance
Hopefully they do that with the new AC. Damage-sponge enemies and gear having levels can fuck right off, grow a pair and make a decent game that doesn't rely on that crap to artificially extend it
cinder vessel
it's kinda funny i rail on the stats stuff but enjoy Daemon x Machina, but y'know, the big difference is the stats in that kinda game are gear-based mostly so you gear up vs. spending ages leveling to allocate points for +5% or whatever
austere lance
I really wanted to like that game but I'd burned out on Dead Island years ago and Dying Light just felt like it with better graphics and parkour
winter yew
Leon, I've seen you mention Daemon x Machina a few times lately. You've peaked my interest, I'm gunna check it out.
cinder vessel
I LOVE TO BLINDFIRE TWIRL
And it has some cool music as you're blasting through bots
winter yew
👌
austere lance
I just want a Mark of the Ninja sequel 😔
winter yew
The art style is REAL nice.
austere lance
Best stealth game made by a small studio in the last decade, no contest
It got ridiculously high reviews from everyone 😩
So why no sequel
cinder vessel
Don't Starve took over /s
winter yew
I'm not a huge fan of stealth games.
Last stealth game I played was maybe Alien Isolation and that's pushing it to be called a stealth game.
cinder vessel
Seriously though, the extended support for Don't Starve has continued to surprise me
meager panther
winter yew
https://youtu.be/oi7IFmtzz90 Razorwire Halo is a kickass band from Kansas City, Missouri that I’ve had the pleasure of seeing live a handful of times over the years.
meager panther
austere lance
cinder vessel
Oh hey, Generation Zero's got a free week up on Steam apparently
Good opportunity to see if it's improved much I suppose
austere lance
Meh, show gameplay
worn jacinth
next week
ripe frost
Someone tell me about a game with internal space ship construction besides space engineers
ripe frost
Why is this feature so rare...
austere lance
I want Shipbreaker to release
ripe frost
indeeed
bronze wind
that's true
raven frost
@ripe frost you might be interested in Starbase https://store.steampowered.com/app/454120/Starbase/
StarMade as well if I got the name right
ripe frost
Starbase looks amazing but is not launched lol
raven frost
austere lance
Tfw Stranded Deep has a loading screen just to load the main menu
daring spear
yeahh
silver sparrow
Deepth Strandeding
hot vale
silver sparrow
I put about ten hours into it
The production is good
I’m just not into the genre
I’m a space freak yo
austere lance
RDR 2 is meh
rigid haven
I really like it a lot
willow crypt
It's great but I keep falling out of it for a long time
cinder vessel
i'm gonna do something stupid
i'm gonna try generation zero
my curiosity can finally be sated for free~
austere lance
crisp sparrow
dry copper
@austere lance Ass heaven has been passed around like a dutch oven in a fart brothel
Ass Odyssey was a one off. They aren't going to repeat that formula by tossing the IP around for experimentation
bronze wind
@cinder vessel lemme know what you think. I've heard mixed things
charred badge
Why is this a thing in the des2ny app
silver sparrow
i will probably do ps5 now, although i'm bummed
sony is a ballsucker
beta video
special music disk
now exclusive releases
austere lance
Fug it, I'm downloading The Long Dark cuz it's on Game Pass
silver sparrow
@austere lance i looooooove tld
not playing it atm but it is fantastic for mid-stress survival
if you can classify survival games by stress level
and also they have (arguably) greatly improved the story mode chapters since version 1.3 or w/ev
dry copper
I wish they'd finish TLD
I was heavy into that for the longest time, but lost interest in the inevitable...and the absence of story felt...
Robbed.
They're only, how many years behind schedule?
silver sparrow
inb4 indie shop standard arguments 😉
dry copper
No idea what that means.
Hinterland Studios is about as independent as a studio gets that is receiving money from the government
Though to be fair they did pay that back - but that does not negate the fact. They didn't start off in a bad position. The product is good. It's just not complete...six years and over $6mil in profits later
As far as independent developers go, turning a million in profits a year for a game that's not been finished for over half a decade is pretty good.
cinder vessel
i have so little interest in another viking setting story
rigid haven
God of war but assassin's creed
cinder vessel
And God of War was God of War but Skyrim
echo hill
imagine if the game actually looked as good as the cinematic trailer
okay ill be honest that looks fucking sick
austere lance
I have a weak spot for games that let you have a home that you can expand and upgrade, which is apparently a thing in the new AC
You get a whole Viking settlement to grow
meager panther
Also that levels crap in Odyssey wont be in this
So at least thats good i guess lol
Here
cinder vessel
every piece of gear is unique...in terms of stats, probably
cinder vessel
reminds me of Destiny going on about its progression...
winter yew
straight up i'm fucking hyped about the game
our ancestry was traced back in Norway to the 9th century AD so this game is legit going to be like irl animus for me lmao
silver sparrow
cross those animals
bronze wind
have fun
austere lance
Spirit started The Long Dark
bronze wind
@cinder vessel what did you think of Generation Zero?
daring spear
Ehhhhh
cinder vessel
@bronze wind so, uh, i played a bit earlier today and thought I may have screwed myself over, but then I figured out the inventory system is just a tad...Different.
It's tough solo, not sure how it handles coop (which is what it was meant more for). The robots hit hard and are accurate, for the most part. Solo, this means you end up playing it a bit stealthy, trying to draw them apart if they're in groups or taking them out from afar once you get better guns.
Despite it being tough it's kinda...Relaxing? You're not constantly fighting, instead just sorta trying to make your way around and scavenge up supplies to fight/heal...There's crafting, but I haven't even begun to dig into that yet.
It uses a pretty standard schematic/blueprint system from what I can tell, so you're also on the hunt for those & the supplies to craft them.
It's a rather pretty game at times~
But also not without some jank...That's a medkit that I can't pick up because it's close to the lightswitch over the oven...
For what it's worth, if you have the time & hard drive space, it's free for the next few days to try
dry copper
For what it's worth, is it worth money?
cinder vessel
So far the narrative is very thin, so it hasn't fully clicked/hooked me
dry copper
So it's a sandbox?
cinder vessel
They describe it as like...A scifi guerrilla open world game, I think, lol
dry copper
Does the sandbox have any building in it?
cinder vessel
No. No building in this game.
dry copper
A walking simulator with guns?
dry copper
Wooo...SOLD
bronze wind
Just realized it's free week so I'll try it
cinder vessel
It's a slow starter, so be ready for that
That's why I haven't been able to just tell you something simple like, "Oh I think it's alright" 'cause I don't think I've entirely figured out what's what yet
There's apparently some leveling system and skills/perks to unlock but game has done zero to go over them so far, so I dunno if I can unlock any yet, lol
bronze wind
I uninstalled lol, it's way too difficult right off the bat. Maybe if I got my brother to play, but even then idk
dry copper
One game I never played: Halo. Any of them.
I've heard good things, but I'm not into competitive shooters.
Co-op is fine.
PVP...meh
cinder vessel
lol, I somehow weather through stuff like the Souls games, so I guess the difficulty just didn't phase me...
You can however adjust the difficulty in the settings if you want
dry copper
I just don't trust PVP online with the number of cheaters in competitive gaming
First, I don't want to be forced into PVP, but if it's a necessary mechanic, I want more security against cheaters than I typically see
cinder vessel
Yeah PvP is all too often riddled with diehards that basically only ever play that specific game
bronze wind
I enjoyed dark souls, felt like there was at least some strategy involved
dry copper
I'm not shitting on Halo. By all metrics, it's a good game. Just not something I've actually played or been interested in.
I also don't play Dark Souls, or Outlast
I played the Penumbra Trilogy and I was DONE with horror gaming
lol
bronze wind
In that game so far, it's basically robots that can spot you from half a mile away and are super accurate, and it takes forever to kill one with the starting pistol. Plus every area near the beginning of the game has like 4 or 5 of them patrolling
dry copper
I'm a pussy
austere lance
@dry copper Halos all have damn good campaigns that you can play solo or co-op. They also have pvp multiplayer and the newer ones also have PvE multiplayer
daring spear
Difficulty settings too iirc
dry copper
Is that game with Jon Snow in it a Halo Game?
austere lance
The first Halo was basically the first 3D FPS that popularized the genre
dry copper
I can't remember the game...It's a shooter
austere lance
Yes, John Snow is absolutely the Master Chief and has been since 2001
dry copper
I thought that was John Cena
austere lance
You're thinking of CoD Infinite Warfare btw, lol
austere lance
CoD games haven't had a good campaign in almost a decade 😬
dry copper
I stopped playing competitive shooters after Battlefield 2142
dry copper
I really enjoyed 2142 air ships
austere lance
Tbh I've always played Halo for the story first and multiplayer second
dry copper
Apex Legends might be fun
austere lance
Hence me having..........8 Halo books?
dry copper
I think it has air ships
austere lance
It does not
dry copper
damn it
dry copper
Play Remnant from the ashes
austere lance
You don't get cool stuff like this in other shooters, lol
https://youtu.be/WiwZY9B6EjM
Remnant bored me tbh
dry copper
The most hardcore co-op fighting game in my library that's installed aside from FO76 is Stardew Valley.
austere lance
It's not really co-op, lol
You can play it co-op but the story just revolves around one character (Master Chief)
cinder vessel
In that game so far, it's basically robots that can spot you from half a mile away and are super accurate, and it takes forever to kill one with the starting pistol. Plus every area near the beginning of the game has like 4 or 5 of them patrolling
@bronze wind yeeaahh, but you can find flares & radios to distract them. Admittedly they don't give nearly enough of either right away.
You can also take them out quickly if you can manage to shoot fuel tanks conveniently on their backs.
But yeah, I was also taken aback at how tough they are when you can't hit those and how accurate they are...There's a good reason I said it was tough right off the bat.
bronze wind
yeah the hard part is usually getting close without getting really destroyed since they will see you way before you're within a reasonable range to hit them lol
Like I don't mind it being hard but I'd like them to either be a bit less accurate or for me to have more health / have them do less damage is all
cinder vessel
Yeah, starting you out with a pistol was mean
bronze wind
Just feels like the devs thought of everything games can do to make a game hard and decided to do it without considering how they work together or where to be more lenient
I tried the easiest difficulty and it was too easy too
cinder vessel
Ah, was gonna say I was considering trying it on a lower difficulty
bronze wind
You can try, it might have just been the limited time I spent on that difficulty
I do really enjoy the vibe of the game, just a shame it isn't my type of gameplay
cinder vessel
I think it's also that the difficulty scaling may just not work very well tbh
I had thought it might be more relaxed solo with that on, but lolno
bronze wind
Yeah I think it really is just built for two people who are communicating
I wanted to point it out to my brother and have him play with me but I could just see him getting mad or deciding not to play out of nowhere
cinder vessel
lol
I'm also not sure how much more I might play of it since there's not really been much of a story to find so far
bronze wind
The story makes less sense in single player too
"You and your friends crash on a beach"
"oh, it's just me"
cinder vessel
So it's just kinda aimlessly going about scavenging, blasting bots which is...Okay? But honestly The Signal From Tölva satisfies that itch for me way better, and it's built for solo play
bronze wind
The sound design in the game is awesome which is why I kept trying even after getting annoyed
Like the sounds the bots make, and the impact of your bullets
silver sparrow
thup
bronze wind
cinder vessel
Right? I love the sound of the binoculars and the thunder
bronze wind
The alert noise they make when they're suspicious is really cool
cinder vessel
Aaahhhh discord stop bugging
silver sparrow
dumbcord
cinder vessel
we good now discord?
there we go
Oh Zoid, did it ever start raining in-game as you were playing?
The rain effects are 👍
silver sparrow
@daring spear how is tld so far
daring spear
I got bored. However, there's a character I found early on whom I love
silver sparrow
it's a very contemplative game
silver sparrow
Yeah
cinder vessel
lol so I think the difficulty scaling in Generation Zero may in fact be broken. I turned it off and enemies seem to hit far less hard...Still stupid accurate though, but at least this way when I was getting hit each shot was only shaving off 1 hp instead of whatever it might have been before
Huh, doing a quick search indicates that apparently they recently buffed the machines in Generation Zero, so that explains a lot...
austere lance
Sweet lord, the Anniversary Throwback playlist in Halo 5 is ridiculous 😂
echo hill
Bruuhhh
austere lance
Halo 2 flights are over and they said the game will be out soon
And there just so happens to be a huge Inside Xbox show next Thursday 👀
They totally wouldn't release it then
daring spear
wide kestrel
holy hell
daring spear
bork. bork. meow. baa. AAAAAAAA
wide kestrel
rainrainrainrainrainrainrainrainrainrainrainrainrainrainrainrainrainrain
daring spear
oh i broke my legs
austere lance
Oh fuck yeah, Overlord II is free with Gold next month 😆
daring spear
I love that song
willow crypt
New Thom Yorke song debuted from his home https://youtu.be/NgyHOfV-i1k
silver sparrow
ok i just had an awesome game concept
wide kestrel
Tell us more.
silver sparrow
post-apocalyptic farming simulator
FARMAGEDDON
except i just googled it and that's the name for an aardvark movie later this year
wide kestrel
Oof.
austere lance
Imma restart Moonlighter cuz I remember absolutely nothing about it, lol
silver sparrow
you are the shopkeeper
i just finished xcom2 for the first time so i am thinking about moonlighter as well...also deep sky derelicts, farming simulator 19 since it is free on ps plus next week, transistor...
austere lance
I got like an hour into Moonlighter months ago then got distracted by other stuff
bronze wind
It's pretty good but obviously a little repetitive, can be slow at times. but if you don't take it too seriously it's a fun game
willow crypt
Moonlighter is a neat little game. Made me like running a store more than I thought I would. Still need to finish it
Almost done with FFVII remake
But yeah it gets repetitive
Which I'm not a fan of
bronze wind
I liked Moonlighter a lot, I wasn't a huge fan of the sort of economy management portion and guessing prices for items in hopes that you get a good price for something, but it was still enjoyable
willow crypt
Wish there was a mechanic to set a bear trap that kills the thieves
bronze wind
Yeah they were easy enough to get rid of but it wasn't very varied
silver sparrow
willow crypt
Also playing Below. My one major critique so far is a lot of the world is dark and it's hard to discern the pathway at times hard to know where the entrances and exits are
Otherwise fun to explore and nice soundscapes
sinful umbra
i found a t-rex in animal crossing
austere lance
I'm cheating and using a price guide in Moonlighter 🤣
Hot damn, just made 7k gold from my fourth dungeon run ever 😆
austere lance
silver sparrow
thanks
i agree about the price setting comments made
it's not like when i am buying a rusty sword i haggle over the cost with the shopkeeper
bronze wind
I guess for me the need to rely on a price guide rather than the game just providing a better way of handling that is what gets me
Over time it doesn't matter cause it auto-sets it to the most appropriate price you've sold an item for, but the trial and erorr when you just got this insanely rare item from a dungeon and have no idea whether it should be sold for 1000 or 10000 can be discouraging
silver sparrow
or simplify the mechanic rather than removing it
silver sparrow
also i think i bought moonlighter before i bough my pro controller for the switch, which actually makes a difference for me
bronze wind
Beyond just lookiing it up online
silver sparrow
like some old dude who you can pay for pricing tips idk
bronze wind
yeah that would be cool
Or like, some visual cues
Maybe certain price tiers sparkle a certain way
Like no sparkles for <1000, over 1000 a dull white, over 5000 gold
worn jacinth
cinder vessel
Tbh it bums me out when it feels like you have to check online for how to play a game without getting frustrated
'cause a lot of times that leads you right to the edge of the rabbit hole where then you just end up spoiling the game for yourself
bronze wind
Yeah I'd rather encounter stuff like that organically
Or at least have it be some kind of cool secret that requires a community to solve
Like unlocking the underwater caverns in ruby/sapphire
daring spear
PSA: Hobo stoves in Stranded Deep are broken
austere lance
bronze wind
I mean all of their games pretty much require UPlay anyway so it's just a question of where you purchase it lol
Even on steam their games don't launch from Steam, they open UPlay
cinder vessel
which is part of why i just don't bother with Ubisoft games on PC until ages afterward when they appear on GOG, lol
bronze wind
I don't get them just cause a lot of their games are like deep into a well established series that I've played 0 games out of lol
cinder vessel
There's also that, yeah
I'm not even looking at this new AC in large part because of that
bronze wind
i'll probably look and get pretty interested but ultimately not buy it like odyssey and origins
daring spear
I've played part of two AC games
worn jacinth
Tbh it bums me out when it feels like you have to check online for how to play a game without getting frustrated
what do you mean?
well Im personally never buying Ubisoft games again since we have Uplay+ now
pay 15/month when you want to play, has ALL Ubisoft games with all DLC
cinder vessel
omg
before i even finished reading that first paragraph I just knew they were gonna mention fucking skill trees, lmao
willow crypt
i love skill trees. when i feel like i'm not good at something, i just walk outside, take a nice little stroll to the skill tree and pluck whatever skill fruit I fancy. and bam
since i've only played Black Flag, i feel i need to eventually give another AC game a chance
austere lance
You're on PS4, right? Grab the Ezio Collection whenever it's on sale
willow crypt
yep
yep
not sure i have the desire to play one of the originals. If I do, will be one of the new ones.
charred badge
Garakata you can't fire forever.
Garakata: haha bullet hose go brrrrt. https://youtu.be/rlktbYnpNjo
austere lance
Ezio Collection are the best, everything after them slowly changed from being Assassins Creed
willow crypt
i can believe it
and warframe
one day i'll jump back into that
for the 20th time
rigid haven
I like syndicate it's the only one I've beaten besides 3
cinder vessel
I tried the very first AC and ran into a glitch and didn't feel like trying to play through it again & complete it
austere lance
I never bothered with the first game, AC II more or less decided to.......not ignore it, but it definitely changed everything. It played nothing like the first game, thankfully
Tbh it's better to think of AC II as the start of the series 😆
The first game is like a glorified demo
cinder vessel
AC1 is like WD1, how they didn't learn from AC1 to not repeat similar mistakes with WD1 is just
austere lance
Lol
Fr tho, I definitely recommend starting with AC II if you ever feel like experiencing the series. The Ezio trilogy is the peak of Assassins Creed, it changed a lot with every installment afterwards and kinda felt like they were just farming the series. The trilogy has the best story and characters
austere lance
The Ezio trilogy, Assassins Creed III, and Black Flag tell a good cohesive story, the ones afterwards are more or less just Ubi making spin-offs
Ubi will never admit it of course
worn jacinth
Assassin's Creed II
Assassin's Creed Brotherhood
Assassin's Creed Revelations
Assassin's Creed III
Assassin's Creed III: The Tyranny of King Wahsington
Assassin's Creed Liberation
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Assassin's Creed Freedom Cry
Assassin's Creed Unity
Assassin's Creed Unity: Dead Kings
Assassin's Creed Chronicles: China
Assassin's Creed Rogue
Assassin's Creed Syndicate
Assassin's Creed Chronicles: India
Assassin's Creed Syndicate: Jack the Ripper
Assassin's Creed Chronicles: Russia
Assassin's Creed Origins
Assassin's Creed Origins: The Hidden Ones
Assassin's Creed Origins: The Curse of the Pharaohs
Assassin's Creed Odyssey
Assassin's Creed Odyssey: Legacy of the First Blade
Assassin's Creed Odyssey: The Fate of Atlantis
Assassin's Creed Valhalla
Assassin's Creed 2021/2022```Kinda wish I'd stopped at Black Flag, everything tanked in quality after that imo
worn jacinth
meh
austere lance
I'm really really happy the new one won't have leveling bs
worn jacinth
Oh the way you wrote that I interpreted is that you hated it being gone 😛
yeah I prefer the new method
austere lance
I despise the RPG leveling crap in the last two games
worn jacinth
the world is massive in Valhalla
sec
What can you tell me about the scope of the world in Valhalla? Is it one big map of England? How does Norway figure in?
It is Norway and the Dark Ages of England – specifically the ninth century. In terms of England, it is quite a large map. We focus on four major kingdoms of England during this time period: Wessex, Northumbria, East Anglia, and Mercia. So for history buffs, they can look for that. It’s a large part of England, and within that you have three major cities: London, Winchester, and Jórvík (now called York in modern days, but Jórvík back then). And then we have a ton of towns, and of course, we have Norway as well.
That’s the core. We have other surprises that I won’t get into in terms of the world and map. But that’s the heart of the journey. We start in Norway, and we see the natural beauty of this world, but we also feel the difficulty of living in this barren land … so we move from there and settle in England. And then it’s about the journeys through the kingdoms of England. Of course, players can go back and forth to Norway as they please. There’s a lot to see and do in Norway.
silver sparrow
Jayzus that is too many assassins
cinder vessel
there are a lot of asses to ass in
austere lance
There's gonna be romances, so yes
charred badge
Romance of the three kingdoms? Sweet
dry copper
My only issue with it is the passage of time. Let me enjoy it without worrying about time limits for store management
I get it for the store only being open X amount of time, but beyond that...bleh
There's gonna be romances, so yes :gandalf:
@austere lance "Romances" yes, because the vikings were known for....romance.
austere lance
Lol
History is written by the victors, aka the English in this case. There's historical records showing that Vikings were surprisingly groomed and treated their women (besides Thralls/slaves) better than most European countries did. They still married them off at 12 like everyone else did but Viking women could get divorced and handle finances. And be warriors
silver sparrow
calls Bungie
you got any more of them thralls? scratch scratch
wide kestrel
empty crag
TF2's Soldier is dead from COVID-19
Operation Soaring Eagle... is finally achieved... Sayonara, you crazy basterd
austere lance
Dammit, I can't find anything to play so I'm back to Skyrim 😆
cinder vessel
don't you have like the whole of game pass or whatever? 
dry copper
@wide kestrel lol that's the anthem now? Because the soviet union collapsed. It's the Russian Federation now.
wide kestrel
No it's just a translation of the USSR national anthem.
dry copper
Ah. Do you have something for the current anthem in english?
austere lance
@cinder vessel But I've played everything I like on Game Pass, lol. Tbh Game Pass games are a good 90% of what I play
wet warren
Game Pass is really great because there are a lot of games that I would have bought but don’t need to with that
Although I don’t currently have Game Pass active
austere lance
Wow, Survival mode in The Long Dark ain't a joke
silver sparrow
yeah @austere lance tld sandbox is definitely a long tail experience, you are best off to start with pilgrim and work your way up to voyageur
balmy peak
@austere lance Black Flag was one of the best Pirate Games out there.
That being said, if I were to have one final AC game... I'd see if something radical could be pulled off.
Set it in WW2.
Make it like a shooter, but see if the AC feel could be maintained with melee combat as fluid as always alongside the WW2 shooting.
So it'd feel sorta like John Wick at parts.
worn jacinth
Assassin's Creed has visited both World Wars 1 and 2
austere lance
worn jacinth
Assassin's Creed Unity has a short sequence in World Wars 2
where the Eiffel Tower is taken
Assassin's Creed Syndicate has a sequence where you play as the grand daughter of Jacob
Lydia Frye, set in World Wars 1
meager panther
austere lance
Welp, gonna play Subnautica cuz I can't think of anything else
Apparently Assassins Creed II is free on Uplay rn
I recommend
Ah yes, the 5 minutes of loading that Subnautica has to do
daring spear
my Cyclops makes my game take ages to load
austere lance
Lol, I started a new save to see if it loads faster than my 12 hour one
So far yes
Oh yeah, that was waaaaaaay faster
cinder vessel
rip
wide kestrel
12 hours??? What a casual.
worn jacinth
Twitter
dry copper
I like women. I like songs. This better be good.
daring spear
the intro is beautiful, that's as far as I've gotten
ohhhhh there we gooo
damn this is great
dry copper
1 minute in: These women do not sound healthy but they can carry a tune
1.5 minutes in: This woman sounds like a woman. She's apparently skin and bones
2 minutes in: The women backup singers are not very convincing, but I do like me some good throat singers.
3 minutes in: This song apparently treats and promotes women as objects.
4 minutes in: Confused. Now women suffer everything that everyone ever has.
Finished song conclusion. Catchy tune, good lead vocalist. Nice throat singing. Horrible lyrics. The message is conflicted and while one section idolizes women as objects, spends the remainder of the song claiming women are the ultimate victims.
daring spear
I also don't know what the Mongolian parts are saying ahaha
dry copper
the fuck...I go to look up the lyrics and it's written in fucking russian
daring spear
not surprised
austere lance
Uh, somebody thought combining Fallout 76 and Destiny was a good idea 😬
https://youtu.be/i_rzWn98QvQ
daring spear
Zero is the name of the virus in the book I'm reading too
cinder vessel
multiplayer 😴
radiant acorn
Gotta admit, Used to be a Star Citizen hater. Not anymore. Boy was I wrong, Game is damn impressive, despite being buggy at times. Also, for a limited time get 5,000 free credits and a Greycat Exovehicle when you use this referral code STAR-JNW2-BKCV or by visiting https://robertsspaceindustries.com/enlist?referral=STAR-JNW2-BKCV Add JohnSlar in game, and we can hang in the verse! If you are already in the verse reach out to me!
dry copper
Crack, the rolling thunder
O'er towering trees
Toppled 'midst the remnants
Burn asunder in the breeze
cinder vessel
That's a weird sorta advert...
radiant acorn
Somewhat advert somewhat genuine post
dry copper
It's like...Hey everyone. What floor ya going to!...Wanna smell like farts? fart
pushes elevator button and leaves
radiant acorn
Lol
dry copper
I was never a star citizen hater until star citizen turned into a blue ball promise of bullshit and mismanagement
I don't care about how good the game may be.
radiant acorn
Ehhhh it really ain’t
dry copper
They've already been sued and lost
radiant acorn
Have you tried it?
dry copper
I'd probably enjoy it. That doesn't make it less scammy
I enjoy FO76 and it's an absolute scam
austere lance
I love reading about how horribly mismanaged and scummy it is, I give it another year before it finally implodes and the dude goes to prison for wasting millions of dollars on smoke and tech demos
dry copper
Listen. You can like shit that's bullshit. That's fine.
Different strokes different folks
Beauty of reality
I don't like the idea of getting LEGOS, but I like the idea of giving it
As an example*
daring spear
@dry copper remember to keep it pg
daring spear
Lmao
radiant acorn
Guys I was completely on your side. Still think they have a lot to answer for, but I honestly have never played something like it before. Even in its alpha state.
dry copper
I like how you say was, but never qualify your answer
daring spear
I don't like the idea of being a youtuber, but I like some youtubers... That's my contribution to the conversation
austere lance
@dry copper Go through that article, it's amazing 😂
dry copper
Reminds me of a Mitch Hedberg joke
daring spear
A bad analogy. Like me
dry copper
"I used to be a pothead. I still am, but I used to be too"
radiant acorn
About my stance on giving LEGO? Nah not a fan. Not a fan of taking it either.
cinder vessel
wtf is going on with Lego here
daring spear
You don't wanna know
radiant acorn
No you don’t
cinder vessel
Gonna stick to the bricks
radiant acorn
Smart
cinder vessel
And mention Lego Worlds is cool
dry copper
The moment Star Citizen started selling virtual content for literally more than most people pay for rent, I signed off on ever wanting to play it
You couldn't pay me to play it now, no matter how good it may be a tech demo
radiant acorn
That was one of my red flags as well
$25,000!
And really ignored the game entirely, besides making jabs at it here and there
dry copper
The thing that bothers me the most about this game. It's set the stage for a whole army of game development studios getting away with similar behavior and tainted the entire indie market
The indie market is more toxic now than it ever was
The Federal Trade Commission has received 129 consumer complaints related to Cloud Imperium, involving requests for refunds as high as $24,000
radiant acorn
I respect your view on it, @dry copper you are missing out though. It is much more than a tech demo. The biggest misconception is the selling of ships. Despite what you believe, they are not selling ships. You are donating to the project. All of the ships that can be bought for real money can be EASILY purchased ingame. I spent $40 for access to the game and a single ship, haven’t spent a dime more.
In regards to your article ^
dry copper
Where did you buy the kracken?
radiant acorn
Concept ships cannot be purchased in game, they will be when they are released.
daring spear
so that Bear Party game I keep talking about? is a steam release of a previously released source mod
cinder vessel
huh
radiant acorn
Lol
daring spear
it's hilarious
radiant acorn
I haven’t seen that mod got a link?
dry copper
"You are donating to the project. All of the ships that can be bought for real money can be EASILY purchased ingame." @radiant acorn
You said that. You lied.
radiant acorn
You caught me on a technicality @dry copper Congrats
I’ll fix it “All Released ships can be bought in game, for in-game currency” Also many ships have been removed from the store, and can only be purchased for in-game currency.
But really don’t need to discuss this anymore. You have your opinion I have mine. That’s all.
@daring spear oh my god
daring spear
the way the bears talk is a little unsettling tho
bronze wind
If it ever really actually releases with a single player campaign and is reviewed well I'll spend as little money as possible to play that. But I'm not interested in buying ships/insurance
cinder vessel
moment a game mentions insurance i'm just going, "where game go"
"game? are u lost?"
radiant acorn
Lol
austere lance
Like Elite Dangerous, lol. Except you don't buy the insurance with irl money
dry copper
@daring spear That shit is magical
daring spear
yes
bronze wind
I know it's not real money, I just am not really interested in having to maintain an in-game policy like that lol
radiant acorn
It’s exactly like elite dangerous
bronze wind
I also don't enjoy that game
daring spear
downloading random free steam games
dry copper
I loved when that game came out. An absolute horror. It's like carebears meets Manhunt
radiant acorn
Then you wouldn’t necessarily enjoy star citizen pu, you would like SQ42. And that’s fine.
To each his/her own
daring spear
aaa a free game that the only goal is destroying cars. yesss
bronze wind
I might like SQ42, will wait until it's actually released to see what it's like. If it's drastically cut down in terms of actual fun features but keeps all the annoying ones I'm all set lol
cinder vessel
cinder vessel
Do you mean that the other way around Zoid?
daring spear
who you mean Acey
winter yew
you
daring spear
oh
bronze wind
Leon by "all set" I mean "no thanks"
daring spear
cinder vessel
Oooh gotcha
daring spear
destroyyyy
dry copper
@daring spear Looks like old school Twisted Metal. NGL, I loved Twisted Metal
I was a Twisted Metal fanboi
daring spear
I like that it was made by "students" but it doesn't say what kind of students
winter yew
this looks neat
dry copper
willow crypt
Twisted metal 2 best
winter yew
@dry copper There's a Twisted Metal-like game on Steam that's called Diesel Guns that is developed in Unreal Engine by some tiny Russian studio. I wish it was more polished and had in-game music but it plays fantastically
cinder vessel
Wow, that's a description I haven't seen in awhile...
winter yew
cinder vessel
I forget the name of it but there was some other car combat MMO several years ago
winter yew
here's some actual gameplay that isn't prettied-up cutscene bs
cinder vessel
Auto Assault, jeez...Only lasted about a year it seems
winter yew
I have not played DG in awhile... looks like they added some stuff since then.. drones that follow your car? lmao. nice.
that desert level has two world hazards you can trigger, a sandworm that comes up underneath your car and kills it, or an asteroid attack that covers random spots of the level
dry copper
@winter yew That guy reaaaally hates Michael
winter yew
what guy
dry copper
The player in that video who won't stop attacking the same guy in a battle royale
Five dudes, he's on one like a fly on shit
winter yew
lmao.
the game does have online BUT I'm 90% sure he was playing against a bot
at one point in the game's development they were talking about making a giant Battle Royale-style map
but I guess they never did
dry copper
shrug The video has names in top left corner, like other players
winter yew
yeah, it does that even with bots
I've got nearly 7 hours of play time in Diesel Guns, i'm pretty sure I know what I'm talkin' about hehe
dry copper
I've got no hours. I only have one russian game.
It's amazing though
Absolutely incredible shit.
My favorite Russian game ever
daring spear
oof
austere lance
@charred badge Ori 2 was so good 😭
charred badge
Yes
austere lance
Where you at in it
charred badge
||Moki housing quest||
austere lance
Ah
austere lance
😢
dry copper
Today is feel day
https://youtu.be/jgTDK34mka8
charred badge
@austere lance made a lot more impactful by never commenting on it
dry copper
What is the game that made you the saddest
?
I was shaken a bit by FF7's aeriths death, but I found "To The Moon" a lot more emotional
dry copper
You can't spoil rotten eggs. That game came out on PS1 😛
willow crypt
also, don't spoil the passion of the christ for me
dry copper
Spoiler: It's passionate 😉
willow crypt
DMANIT
willow crypt
Soma had a very strong ending. great game
austere lance
Ori 2 may or may not have made me sorta cry
dry copper
willow crypt
The one game that comes to mind when i think of other people crying is Journey. Didn't make me cry, but overall most people did it seems
haven't played Frictional game's other games
I think I appreciated Soma so much because it wasn't a complete horror game, almost a horror adventure/walking sim
if Amnesia is pure horror, not sure i want to play
dry copper
What bothers me about FO76 in terms of emotional story telling: They have something that they could actually sell an emotional story on and they completely phone it in, with half written stories and fragmented tales.
austere lance
I almost cried hard af playing Ori 2
willow crypt
i betchu did
dry copper
Ooooh, A Tale of Two Brothers
daring spear
can confirm
dry copper
I cried with that
willow crypt
Loved it
austere lance
Ori will break your fuckin heart twice
willow crypt
i probably got emotional with that one
dry copper
Correction: Brothers:A tale of two sons
willow crypt
yeah
need to play their newer game
i hope they're going to do a more fantasy-based game next
charred badge
I was moved by Soma because it's the only game I know to really, personally, tackle the reality of digital consciousness
cinder vessel
i'm gonna frighten ur concepts
willow crypt
Pls no
dry copper
I've been waiting for....counts the years
23 years for a remake of the game I played back in 97
Sentient
Or a sequel
austere lance
Legend of Dragoon
daring spear
please
dry copper
@charred badge If you like digital consciousness theory gaming
https://youtu.be/ZKD0GNW9cOU
I won't divulge the nature of the experiment but to say there's a lot of layers in it
daring spear
Albert's additions are almost too fast for me to do
austere lance
Fable 4 when
charred badge
So satisfying to pull off, though
Rose's too
Oh ih
Give the bow character some sort of additions
Dear lord using her in a fight was boring
charred badge
A lot more often, too, if you can keep up with her additions
dry copper
ff7 remake combat, anyone a fan?
winter yew
Just made a short edit for fortnite. Enjoy 🙂 https://youtu.be/1Qy26Vx1RbI
willow crypt
I'm enjoying the combat in the remake. With that said, I don't care for turn based JRPG combat
austere lance
Has anyone ever played Dragons Dogma: Dark Arisen? It's on sale this week and it looks wacky
cinder vessel
It's super wild, def. recommend 👀
you get to clamber up on big monsters and jab them while your allies zap them with spells
And things can go...Unexpectedly...Thanks to that degree of flexibility
austere lance
The current gen version is on sale, I got bored and watched a few reviews and it just looks ridiculous 😆
Saw a dude fireball a harpy out of the air, sling it over his shoulder, then yeet it at an ogre
cinder vessel
Sounds about right
austere lance
daring spear
dry copper
@daring spear That's so wrong and so right. I want it to eat and to die at the same time.
"When I was in college, my diet was so bad; my decisions were bad"
Sushi oreo? puke
rigid haven
Sounds alright
rigid haven
Cŕonch
winter yew
cinder vessel
ubisoft is p. good at trailers
austere lance
They're gonna show that and some other games on the Series X
austere lance
I've read a ton of articles on it
That's the best one, it answers damn near every question I had
No more grind 😩 💦 💦
I can play the game like a violent Animal Crossing and grow my settlement
raven frost
rigid haven
FUCK YEAH
rigid haven
https://twitter.com/cyanatar/status/1256743862841888768?s=20
I sure hope this isn't mod abuse
austere lance
Wtf is that, lol
rigid haven
Art
dry copper
really hope I don't regret this...repurchased rdr2. Heard a lot of the stability issues I was experiencing at launch are patched out.
rigid haven
I LOVE rdr2
cinder vessel
compooterman nooo
dusty drift
They made a 1:1 scale map of Earth in Minecraft: https://youtu.be/0eyyuNvKNzw
silver sparrow
bronze wind
yikes
winter yew
lmao
dry copper
austere lance
I'm trying to find the name of a wacky sci fi soccer game I played on Xbox as a kid, so far no luck
I'm finding lots of other games I forgot about, like Mad Dash Racing
Holy shit I found it! Sega Soccer Slam
naive mantle
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1239430/Population_Zero/ looks possibly interesting. Nice landscapes to say the least. Gives me ark vibes tho.
austere lance
The dude on the cover is literally wearing a Hunter helmet and cape from Destiny 2, lol
brisk merlin
yeah
dry copper
The game has day 1 DLC
Which means they pulled content out of the finished product to sell separately
That's scumming as fuck
Description says MMO
but I see nothing to support that description
Maybe they mean MMO in the sense that other players will exist in the same empty battle zone trying to kill you
@raven frost I think youd like this game because you like to fuck shit up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PsbdK-x5wU
raven frost
@dry copper I've been keeping my eye on it but didn't know it was on steam, thanks
ripe frost
It was actually Star Trek the whole time!
dry copper
Tried to watch "The Irishman" today.
Not a fan of cultural appropriation. DeNiro looked about as Irish as a white guy pretending to be a black guy.
Twenty minutes in and the show is crawling along like a constipated bowel movement
The CGI to de-age DeNiro looks like they turned him into a plastic figurine.
Which is not saying much, since he acted like a plastic figurine.
Phoned in the entire role. It wasn't even DeNiro playing a character. it was a character playing DeNiro.
Same ass-hat from Casino, with a new job
I couldn't even bring myself to watch the entire movie for free
My time could be better spent unconscious.
silver sparrow
"thank you for watching Mumbles Reviews"
bronze wind
that game does have "day one" DLC, but no price is listed yet. It might be like some other games where it's free but you have to select it for some reason. At least I hope so cause the actual content in them is pretty minimal and pointless, just like an armor set and some starting gear.
also the destiny hunter hood and cape isn't exactly a unique design lol
dry copper
Not like Destiny is unique
bronze wind
Not anymore really
Had some unique elements when it launched but it's been replicated a lot in other games now
Which is fine, but I was just pointing out the weirdness of saying "dude is wearing a cape from Destiny" lol
Reading up on that game bums me out though cause it looks sort of interesting, but the PvE mode literally gives you less experience for your character than PvP
dry copper
I remember when Destiny was something to look forward to.
That game was run into the ground with it's microtransactions
dry copper
