like now I'll have too many issues with it to enjoy it
#other-games
iron inlet
which is sad
I feel like I'm lucky in that regard with Halo 2. I caught it on the tailend of it looking at the best "fine"
limber harness
@primal inlet actually the code seems mostly harmless
primal inlet
I'm not worried about it doing harmful things, but the spigot reviews report some...eccentric behavior
teal trench
Halo's another weird one for me. I've only actually played one of the games - idk which one - but I read the Halo books, before I ever touched the game.
primal inlet
well, one
teal trench
I loved the books.
iron inlet
it makes me sad only the first 2 are on pc
it's a great series
well, up until 4
Halo 1 through Reach are great, and 4 is okay. 5 is shite
When 343 took over it got ruined
but alas
teal trench
Huh, apparently the book - "Halo: The Fall of Reach" was published in 2001. Was that before the game?
o.O
iron inlet
Probably alongside the first Halo Game
Halo reach was 2010
but it was a prequel to any of the main games
Reach is basically the origin story
it's also the best halo game
teal trench
This is the book I remember reading. The ring world thing really interested me.
iron inlet
funnily enough "Reach" is the only halo game in the main series that doesn't take place on a Halo π
teal trench
I read "Halo: The Flood", too.
iron inlet
(of all the Bungie ones anyway, idk about 4 or 5)
teal trench
That one's from 2003, I guess.
iron inlet
Alongside the release of Halo 2 then I think
halo 2 was either 03 or 05
nevermind
it was '04 haha
also the last one that was on PC sadly, but the 2nd best halo game
teal trench
The next book is "Halo: First Strike". I haven't read any more past The Flood, but this one was 2003 as well.
iron inlet
just had a shitty ending bc Bungie were forced to release the game
before it was "done"
teal trench
Wait... maybe I did. I remember the next book, Ghosts of Onyx.
Oh, that's why I got into the Halo books.
I remember now.
This one was published by Tor fantasy.
iron inlet
Fuck
I know what I want to play
wait
no
nevermind
damnit
I wanted to play it and immediately didnt
teal trench
Could always play a never ending oldie mouldie, like RuneScape.
iron inlet
Never liked RuneScape π
iron inlet
I suddenly got an urge to play the first Destiny and it left immediately when I realised I'd have to reinstall it
ugh fuck LoL
and MOBAs in general
strong hazel
it's actually not a bad game
teal trench
RuneScape is old, clunky, and full of mechanics that would infuriate any of today's gamers. It's an ancient point and click adventure game, developed in Java for browsers in 1998.
Reminiscent of the old Kings Quest games, and Ultima Online.
The tick system alone, causes extreme anger in most new players.
It's a 600ms tick system.
Every action takes 0.6sec
@iron inlet Also, I have to 100% agree with your opinion on moba games.
I feel the same about any game that's dedicated to combat or pvp.
iron inlet
Like I understand the appeal
I understand why people like them
I just think you're fucking masochistic if you like them
teal trench
Lol, yeah... I prefer games that added combat as an afterthought.
Like Minecraft.
And NMS.
The main gameplay is based on something other than combat.
strong hazel
guess pvp isn't for everyone
strong hazel
what about pve combat?
iron inlet
any game where I spend 10 minutes destroying a tower whilst my team are off destroying other towers, then repeating, then repeating, and then after 30 minutes of running away and grinding down towers, attacking a core with too much health whilst enemies respawn all over me to then eventually win/lose after nearly an hour
teal trench
I'm fine with pve, as long as - like I said - the main focus isn't combat.
iron inlet
if a match takes an hour I want no part of it haha
strong hazel
like, would you play ori and the blind forest, which has a great soundtrack, amazing scenery and is mainly a platformer, but also has a lot of necessairy combat?
teal trench
Idk what either of those are, lol.
Sorry.
And no, if it's a platformer, likely not.
I like open worlds.
strong hazel
oh yeah, I do too, generally but I made an exception for ori and it was amazing, especially the music
teal trench
Oh. I didn't realise "Ori and the Blind Forest" was the name of a single game.
I thought you named two games.
teal trench
Um
iron inlet
I just pressed "Stop" on my alarm at least 5 times before it actually stopped and got irrationally angered by that fact
teal trench
Okay, whilst I appreciate that a game might have good music, I don't exactly go out of my way to listen to it outside of the game.
The same with anime, or whatnot. I don't like how people extract the music.
I watch and play stuff for the content.
Not the music.
Sorry lol
strong hazel
well, I wouldn't consider clicking play Γ§going out of ones way* but I get what you mean, I don't listen to soundtracks regularly too, this was just to show that the soundtrack is good
teal trench
Most of the time, I'll mute the music in games I play.
strong hazel
I think music, scenery, setting, gameplay and optimization all play importantparts in wether a game is good
teal trench
I'll agree to disagree. <.<
strong hazel
but yeah if the music isn't as amazing as here I generally mute it too
teal trench
To me, a good game depends on content, the playerbase's behaviour, how active the devs are, and how much "depth" a game has.
strong hazel
I'd consider those important too, sure.
teal trench
I don't like games with superficial scenery with no function.
strong hazel
well, except maybe active playerbase
teal trench
Everything should have a purpose, and be interactable.
strong hazel
oh have you played the dishonored games? probably not, they're not that open world. but those have excellent scenery and setting while still using them as gameplay elements. their level design is amazing, if you see a ledge there's a 80% chance that you'd need that ledge in one playthrough
if you see a bottle you can use it to knock someone out
etc...
teal trench
Hmm... googles
Dishonored is a 2012 stealth action-adventure video game developed by Arkane Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks.
No, I haven't heard of it at all. Looking some stuff up, it doesn't appear to be my cuppa tea. I'm more into medieval/fantasy games. Sci-Fi is usually a nope for me, with only a small handful of exceptions - No Man's Sky, and Starcraft being two of those. Games based in "modern" times (1800s-present, etc) are usually nope to me, too. I think two exceptions, are GTA and Red Dead Redemption.
strong hazel
dishonored is medival/fantasy though
strong hazel
yeah, it's kinda steampunky
strong hazel
Ok maybe not medival, more like industrial time londony
strong hazel
well steampunk might not be the way to put it, dishonored is very unique and I'm bad at defining generes and that
teal trench
Yes, it's fine though.
limber harness
HYPE
teal trench
What I dug up on google is enough to tell me I won't like it.
limber harness
teal trench
@limber harness Bedrock?
limber harness
da
teal trench
Omg
That is bedrock.
o.o
So that thing Deluxer suggested actually worked!
@primal inlet
limber harness
note: it's very broken
teal trench
Aww
strong hazel
define very broken
teal trench
I assume graphical, and some functional issues.
Like using items.
wot
That's a...
limber harness
some interactivity doesnt work
teal trench
Is that a tablet?
limber harness
yes
teal trench
o_o
limber harness
surface 3
teal trench
Anywho, whilst I honestly do think this Bedrock to java connectivity stuff is neat, I feel like we should consider hosting a proper bedrock server, if people are interested in it. I'd be willing to volunteer again, if it came to that. Just want people to again be aware that whilst my hardware might be more than capable, my network is severely lackluster.
rare coral
bedrock server?
limber harness
aww i cant connect on my phone
teal trench
Yeah, it's .... "different".
Not in content.
In the way things behave, and control.
teal trench
I'm also not a fan.
iron inlet
Anyone have access to terraria right at this moment and want to test something for me?
sleek shadow
@limber harness just press f2 to take a screenshot
It's easier than taking pictures of your computer
limber harness
I can do that, but I don't have anything set up on my tablet for uploads.
sleek shadow
And easier to see
limber harness
So, actually not really. I can image+upload from discord mobile but tablet is far more work
sleek shadow
Just use discord on the computer?
limber harness
that means downloading discord canary, signing in, etc.
rare coral
why not normal discord?
primal inlet
plus f2 doesn't show the fact that it's running on Bedrock nearly as well
limber harness
because canary has F E A T U R E S
rare coral
primal inlet
holy crap, DragonProxy really does work
I can't step on half-slabs and chunks load weirdly but it works
...Aaand I think I screwed it up by trying to warp to creative without realizing the possible implications of such an act
limber harness
no i just didnt give it enough memory
my fault cc @primal inlet
but yeah teleporting is very broken
brisk merlin
d r a g o n
agile raven
teal trench
NIce, lol.
Mine's just a simple cabin-like shack thing. I've taken to calling it a "rubbish shack".
agile raven
We're sorta neighbors
I felt like I should at least have a house in town as well
Instead of going full hermit
teal trench
That's the sole reason I built this, lol.
I plan on going out to 13k or so on the coords.
Just wanted something at spawn.
agile raven
Yeah. Are you still building underground?
I wamt to build other modern houses
For those who don't want to build
teal trench
Nope, I finished building underground. I only made a chest room, and an entryway for the minecart system.
agile raven
Oh nice
teal trench
Spectator view of it:
rain flicker
I love how my tree appears on half of the screenshots because of how big it is
Just wait until I'm able to continue my plans
Currently the ring in floating and ugly, don't look at it
teal trench
That's better...
Symbol needs to be a bit more gold.
Yay, it works well on white, as well as black.
I've needed to remake this for some time.
teal trench
Lol
strong hazel
looks really cool too
teal trench
It's ... got a long story behind it. I've used that colour, that symbol, and the phrase "veteran noob" to describe myself in games, for years.
Someone who's played for countless hours, but still plays like a noob lol.
brisk merlin
nice symbol quav
teal trench
It originated on a gaming forum that I used to use, many years ago. That icon, and the green name is the "veteran rank", which is what I had on the site. It's reserved for those who have been around for over 5 years.
tough heron
cool as
teal trench
Found a cached version of the site, but with a lot of stuff borked.
Here's a signature I made for a member of those forums, on their request:
cinder vessel
lol, i'm excellent at playing totally ineptly at games
Back when I played Guild Wars I always made builds that looked/felt cool to me instead of whatever were the in builds at the time
Mostly because GW had some kickass animations and using the other builds just didn't do them justice most of the time imo
teal trench
Yup, that's exactly why I get called the veteran noob. I play to have fun, and goof around. I'd rather enjoy playing the game - not make it a challenge, or career.
cinder vessel
I get why ppl push to play optimally, but it just puts me off a ton
teal trench
Yeah, lol.
cinder vessel
Underlying that though is the design which incentivizes & encourages which is doubly frustrating
Like people wanna play optimally so that they can run the chances quicker to net the loot or whatever they're after more often than not
teal trench
I accept the fact that people "enjoy" challenges, I just don't enjoy them myself. I'll likely never understand why people enjoy them, despite having innumerous people explain their reasoning to me. To me, it isn't fun to make something difficult on purpose. To me, gameplay has to be easy and spoon-fed for it to be fun.
cinder vessel
And just like...Toss that noise, it's digital trash currency; or your build will work sufficiently well without that +5% damage weapon
Ah, see I'm thinking of something rather different. It's not about challenge for these ppl, it's more about breaking the challenge into an easier, faster run to better net results
teal trench
You might be talking about "Efficiency". Making the gameplay more efficient.
cinder vessel
It's like choreographing a perfect heist only you repeat it over and over for cash, loot, or to kill time
None of which appeals to me whatsoever
teal trench
Yup, I agree.
I don't like efficiency in gameplay.
I prefer to blunder about and goof around as I see fit.
cinder vessel
I do and don't, I like some quick smooth plays, but I don't like that to be the primary play method
For instance I totally dig trying to zip through Sonic/Mega Man levels
teal trench
Well, the efficiency I'm referring to is the robotic-like actions that one repeats to "perfection", on a daily basis without any form of entertainment involved. Just a means to an end.
The people who turn a game into a career of who can attain/achieve the most in a set amount of time.
agile raven
Huh
agile raven
I think I recognize that forum
teal trench
Oh, it was an old Invision power board forum, spirit.
Do you recognise the name username "5ive", or "Chance" as one of the admins/web devs?
He was mostly responsible for the backend management of the forums.
Stuff like making sure people's passwords were secure, and stuff displayed properly.
IPBoards are well known for database leaks.
cinder vessel
Yeah, Quav, a lot of GW players were kind of that way. They wanted to rake in the cash to get the expensive sets of armor to look how they'd like, which not knockin' for that, but the methodology ended up compelling other players to get in line and use cookiecutter builds way too much
LF [insert buildname here] was the worst
teal trench
I wish the Dragon Knights game would return.
That was opened for closed Beta testing, and then never came back.
Only have one screenshot of it, from like 2012.
Mind you, that was in lowest settings.
On a really old pc.
I was using a Dell Dimension E510 at the time, which had a Pentium 4 @3.8Ghz, and a Nvidia GT 9600 graphics card.
"DK Online"
Ooh
Apparently, they brought it back and stuck it on Steam Greenlight in 2017.
Oh. It's a Korean game. That makes more sense why it's taking so long.
teal trench
This is kinda random, but here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PGG46jF0AY
I recorded this in May 2016, on my old home server I used to play.
tough heron
hohohoho
hahahaha
just found a massive exploit on the server
not sure whether or not i should say anything about it tho
:D
light cairn
π
tough heron
join and i'll show you (i'm joking about not telling)
limber harness
DM me.
tough heron
hopefully kaz can fix it
teal trench
@tough heron https://i.imgur.com/9saXAEW.png
I was afk. Stuff was happening on the Rs wiki discord.
winter yew
light cairn
you got remastered? Nice!
winter yew
Yea itβs a blast
light cairn
finna pick it up 
teal trench
PcMasterRace
light cairn
cinder vessel
hahaha it's funny because PC doesn't have enough racing games
teal trench
A bit off topic, but Jeb (one of the main Minecraft devs) made a statement saying that the Java edition of Minecraft will be abandoned, and be renamed as the "community edition", in favour of Bedrock's C++. Jeb begins with a disclaimer of something like "looking down the road many years from now". So that sets the stage for everything else he says. https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/6j4bn5/the_end_of_minecraft/djbhur6/
cinder vessel
Mm, that wouldn't shock me
I wonder if they'll gradually open up the Java version more, or if that would even be needed to support further, perhaps more extensive community reworking of it
teal trench
@limber harness, here have a random Linux error from a friend who uses Wine on Linux to run RuneScape:
Oh, wait. Other way around.
teal trench
Idk, lol.
They're a lot like me, but with software. Self-taught, and absolutely nuts about learning and knowing all they can about coding, software, etc.
I'm the polar opposite - it's all hardware for me.
lavish obsidian
π€
limber harness
encrypted communications from the load balancer to the game server
rain flicker
Goddammit spirit
This is the survival world
So please play survival. You can build creative stuff in the creative world
lavish obsidian
^
rain flicker
We made strict rules about this
We wanted the survival world to be more serious and survival only
rain flicker
How did spirit even gain his gamemode 1 back
limber harness
he's an admin
lavish obsidian
Spirit wasn't subject, I presume?
tough heron
no, he's admin
rain flicker
He's been the one abusing stuff the most of everyone wasn't he?
How did he gain admin
tough heron
and as far as ik, no poll was actually made to see whether or not people wanted to be more serious
theres ideas for it, but i don't think its been made into a poll yet
lavish obsidian
I think we mostly agree that spawning items and PVP'ing is generally a bad choice
tough heron
mhm. I'm personally of the mindset of "eh, whatever goes, goes" but thats because i've been playing for many many years and have seen it all pretty much
but thats me, i don't know how to setup a proper poll on atlas division like the ones there already
limber harness
oh yes thank for for reminding me
lavish obsidian
Admins generally keep the peace, so I'm fine with that
Strawpoll is nice but easily malleable
yes, I know
tough heron
could you set that up asap kaz?
if we are all happy with the contents of the poll and don't think anything is missing?
are we?
lavish obsidian
I think we should wait for others to wake up
lavish obsidian
There's a relatively minor amount of players online right now so I think we need to talk this a bit further
Alrighty then
..i've gone cra-aa-zzy~
rain flicker
But I mean. Is building an entire house at spawn in creative, 2 actually, even considered casual survival anymore
If that is then I vote serious, but if that goes too far even now I vote casual
limber harness
note: minecraft mod apps are open! simply tell me, any Atlas Division mod, or any MC server mod to get added to the candidates list. It's really that easy!
rain flicker
Hm, do I need to fill in a whole form?
limber harness
no
literally just tell me "i want to be a mc server mod"
i'll add you to the candidates list and eventually add you to the election once i set it up
rain flicker
Well. When you removed my OP I already told you I was interested
So
I'll be able to come online again as well starting this midday
limber harness
ok
teal trench
Vote, people!
https://www.atlasdivision.net/t/minecraft-server/168/10
@cinder vessel
Your creeper thing is being polled.
cinder vessel
Cheers for the heads up, much appreciated! π
teal trench
Yup. =)
cinder vessel
Btw been meaning to ask, does dynmap primarily work off of just however players have traversed the world it's...Uh...Linked up to or whatever?
teal trench
@cinder vessel Dynmap updates the map based on player movement, player block placement, and block breaking. Every world (nether, end, survival, and creative) follow these rules.
The flat render is usually updated quicker than the 3D one.
However, the 3D one is default.
cinder vessel
Yeah, noticed. I'm used to offline play so the map renderers I've used in the past have largely been a quick scan of wherever I've been
teal trench
We essentially have a ... "fog of war". All the black areas.
cinder vessel
I think they may have tapped the save or something for that, but it would require rescanning anytime you explored some more, so definitely not ideal
But for offline solo play, was pretty nice, especially back before there was an in-game map item to craft
teal trench
Um, yeah. Offline map renders are much quicker; I'd assume it also has something to do with the tool used. Dynmap is well known (notorious, I might add) for being a massive cpu and storage space hog.
With the limited access to the Xeon that Kaz is using, it's kinda eating the poor thing up.
We share cores with other users on the same hardware.
So we don't get the full Xeon to ourselves.
cinder vessel
Haha, yeaah, makes sense then
I've not kept up to date with Minecraft utilities so I'm just guessing it's the best for that task
teal trench
Yup, sadly Dynmap is the only one filling the gap for a web map.
No one else exists.
(To my knowledge.)
@limber harness
Is that true?
teal trench
Oh, okay.
limber harness
i had a custom map engine before that did that but i am not porting it to this server.
amidst is always an option
teal trench
Well, yeah. That means giving players the seed.
limber harness
as are most minimaps, at least if players have the seed
Yeah, because the seed is no longer a secret
everyone already has it
teal trench
Oh, minimaps will, yes. I meant like proper maps. Such as the full screen one on Journeymap and Xaero - neither show builds, but both minimaps do.
At least the ingame maps have decent .. uh, what's the word for it... that flat scale levelling? Makes it look like it has depth, despite being flat. Vanilla maps do a good job at that.
agile raven
cinder vessel
lol, i have no idea wtf to do with granite
knotty osprey
when i'm home i'm gonna do two things
1: continue installing fortnite
2: play minecraft on the server
knotty osprey
yeah, the download took way too long according to my mom so i had to pause it and put my pc in sleep mode
agile raven
fun
limber harness
hit f3
teal trench
^
limber harness
screenshot that
teal trench
I want to see if its using your gpu.
limber harness
$20 says it's not
blazing torrent
riplol
knotty osprey
hah
that happened to me when i tried running custom texture packs on my old af macbook
agile raven
knotty osprey
all the textures just kinda died
teal trench
Omg
limber harness
install graphics drivers
limber harness
use an actual gpu
knotty osprey
blazing torrent
cinder vessel
lol
limber harness
if youre running on windows, go to nvidia settings and set java to run on the dedicated chip
teal trench
^
knotty osprey
blazing torrent
wyis gets flamed for intel hd (colourised)
cinder vessel
what did you even do to break things spirit
blazing torrent
even worse
knotty osprey
meanwhile i have a dedicated GPU worse than an intel hd 4000 in my lappy
limber harness
you're gonna see a massive spike in framerate without shaders lol
agile raven
I'm aware haha
teal trench
@agile raven Right click on your desktop, https://i.imgur.com/5mI0gVP.png and choose minecraft: https://i.imgur.com/uLABL4M.png
blazing torrent
limber harness
pretty much what quav said]
teal trench
Um. Actually, there's an easier way than setting up a custom profile.
limber harness
there is but that works too
teal trench
@agile raven https://i.imgur.com/i0hgqyD.png
Select the gpu as the OpenGL renderer.
In global settings.
Then click apply.
You'll obviously need to restart the game entirely
limber harness
also a good way to use your gpu way more
teal trench
^
limber harness
yoou must have the sword as a cursor, else it doesnt work /s
teal trench
teal trench
cinder vessel
that moment when everything just breaks
agile raven
wtf
cinder vessel
Spirit have you tried restarting Australia?
teal trench
@limber harness, can you poke the routing table?
limber harness
wont help
poking the table only really works when i need to add a new custom route
spirit already has one so
teal trench
So, it wasn't comcast causing your connection issues when I was hosting, Spirit. <.<
.>
limber harness
well comcast didnt help
but no, it wasnt just comcast
sending data over the ocean is hard
cinder vessel
pfft you just stick it in bottles what could go wrong
teal trench
@limber harness I think I had it set at 512.
limber harness
havent touched it, and i doubt it
this is just a latency thing
i can't make data go faster than the speed of light.
i wish i could, because that would be awesome
the only solution for consistent pings to WYIS would be to put the server in Singapore
Which is something I can't really do for a large number of reasons.
agile raven
winter yew
Pretty
knotty osprey
pretteh
limber harness
part of the shader
teal trench
@agile raven, sorry. I was responding to a rather important DM. Yes, there's a way in SEUS v11, but not the Renewed v1 yet.
agile raven
I'm using chocapic
teal trench
Oh
I'm not sure at all, then.
Your 1080 is more than capable of running SEUS.
It's the current top shader out there.
For visual quality.
limber harness
cough continuum2
agile raven
yeah but
teal trench
(Kaz thinks Continuum v2 is better. >.>)
agile raven
It doesn't want to use my GPU
limber harness
Did you make a profile or use global?
teal trench
Which shader - SEUS, or Chocopic?
I know the renewed version of SEUS has some pretty dense atmospheric effects.
Not sure on Chocopic.
I just know the latter is just a low-quality one for low spec machines.
teal trench
You can make it clearer on SEUS v11, but the Renewed v1 right now is pretty limited.
The renewed version is a WIP, so lots of stuff is unfinished.
Um
May I drop two files here, Spirit?
The .txt file is the configuration.
agile raven
sure
teal trench
I have it configured to be a certain way, and I've edited the GLSL files in the pack to have proper clouds.
That should be much clearer than what you were seeing.
And it'll look nicer.
Especially the clouds, lol.
Make sure you disable vanilla clouds, first though.
agile raven
What's the best fps I can get with SEUS and what settings do I have to use without sacrificing the nice things?
teal trench
Your 1080 is more than capable of running it without changing anything lol.
I get 40fps on my 1080 Ti
teal trench
Hmm, seems clouds are borked on my end. I wonder why that is...
Oh, I know why your fps is low, lol. Sorry. I forgot to change the settings back down. I had everything turned up to max, last time I used it.
Specifically, the shadow resolution lol.
strong hazel
is anyone with op currently on the server? cause I have a small favour to ask
the village that I built my ironfarm and breeder next to has no farmers, so I'd have to place about 2000 rails from the closest village that has 2 farmers, cause I need those specifically
it'd be neat if someone could spawn two or three farmers in that village, so I can get them into the farm
agile raven
strong hazel
brown
knotty osprey
π€
i should really continue my efforts to move my nuke/blast-test area to the desert near the spawn
i destroyed the old area, and i have all the stuff in chests
but i havent actually ventured out and placed some shit
im thinking any of the red marked areas would be good.
the x is too close to skips base imo
and the question mark would only be good if nobody occupies/uses that village
knotty osprey
its gonna be in the desert for (made up) ecological reason lol
i dont want to blow up a forest
i could also do it on this little island here π€
teal trench
@agile raven You'll be replacing this file: https://i.imgur.com/ICg4Zrg.png
teal trench
o.O
agile raven
teal trench
Wrong folder lol
Back one.
In shaderpacks
AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\shaderpacks
knotty osprey
if nobody gives a shit about the location of the blast test area ill just do it on an existing structure
agile raven
relogging now
knotty osprey
no wait that would get me beaned
blazing torrent
beaned
blazing torrent
i would like to get beaned from the server
π
random i imagine as long as it isnt near any structures, no-one is too bothered
knotty osprey
i think the island has a lot of advantages, like accessibility.
would require a lot of digging, and i have to see if it isnt too small of an area for my plans, but i can expand if necessary.
blazing torrent
sounds good !
knotty osprey
having water nearby to soften any TNT carts that fly away would be very useful too
aight, that settles it.
im moving the blast test area there
blazing torrent
enjoy :)
knotty osprey
looks large enough and even a few lava deposits i can turn into obsidian for blast-proof areas :)
i should write my plan for this down somehwere π€
teal trench
@strong hazel, sorry. I was trying to help spirit with shader stuff. I can do that for you, if you'd like.
knotty osprey
just putting my plan here i guess
grey: bunker areas
yellow: observation buildings
Red: danger zone/expected max blast radius
Green: main HQ
pink: farming/manufacturing facility
dark red: shooting range (?)
green/blue ish: underwater test zone
i claim the island
its gonna (hopefully) be full blown military base thing lol
this shit might change too lol, im just putting it here so i dont forget
island looks larg
might not even have to expand into the water lol
teal trench
knotty osprey
oof, thats gonna require a lot of digging
i keep trying to set a marker or something there lmao
teal trench
agile raven
knotty osprey
lmao i just noticed this was clickable
knotty osprey
delet
winter yew
π¨
knotty osprey
saving this for future reference
rough location of new military base:
uncut bramble
β PSA: If anyone wants to try Sea of Thieves and doesn't wanna part with Β£50, it's included in XBox Pass and SoT is a "Play Anywhere" game meaning you get to download the Windows version: https://www.xbox.com/en-GB/games/xbox-game-pass
I don't have an Xbox and was able to download it and play it on my PC last night. Given the average reviews on it, a 2 week trial should be good enough time to see what you think! π
You need your paypal account/credit card to join the free trial, but I just cancelled mine immediately. (Otherwise it's Β£7.99 a month if you want to carry on with it)
winter yew
Thank you Matthew π
uncut bramble
Welcome π
agile raven
I'm using FlowsHD for the texturepack
and SEUS Renewal for Shaders
Looks real nice
knotty osprey
now youre making me want to download texture packs
but my gpu cant run those graphics-heavy things
agile raven
what's your GPU?
knotty osprey
GTX 760.
on my pc that is
it makes a lot of noise when i play minecraft without any texture packs/shaders
so...
blazing torrent
wowthattexturepackisnice
knotty osprey
who created this π€
teal trench
I should probably lay down. It's 05:42 in the morning here.
G'morning, I guess? Lol. Can't really say g'night.
primal inlet
Texture pack's a matter of VRAM, isn't it? Doesn't need to be very powerful as long as you can store it in memory
lavish obsidian
^
dusty palm
I have a lot of VRAM.
dusty palm
Roblox.
dusty palm
I guess I'm going to post only NMS, Minecraft, and my future video game that will probably be made in the 2020s screenshots.
knotty osprey
why am i having such a hard time connecting to the mc server
its like
i continously get thrown out
@limber harness could you help me?
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
ugh
π
im getting way different errors every time
but i cant stay in the server for 5 minutes before i get thrown out again
i tried using the other adress and that didnt help at all
this is the most common error^
anyone?
primal inlet
"The external host has a broken binding"?
primal inlet
...that sounds like the Aussie error
knotty osprey
google translates it to "the external host has disconnected"
i have absolutely no issues doing anything else with internet, including going to different minecraft servers
daring badge
Itβs ponging
knotty osprey
daring badge
Fuck u session
primal inlet
could be that the servers they're hosted on are acting up again
light cairn
π€·
dusty palm
Probably.
limber harness
errror message?
strong hazel
@prisma geyser you talked about community lol games the other day, right?
Cause with all those games being suggested I feel like we could use roles for that. Maybe so that people can assign themselves roles for big games, like pubg or Lol or whatever games the community has an interest in
teal trench
._.
light cairn
i feel like that'd get really messy real fast
strong hazel
Probably shouldβve put that in #discord-server-feedback
light cairn
just from a role perspective i mean
strong hazel
Oh yeah
teal trench
Oh. >.<
strong hazel
Probably
strong hazel
Nevermind then, that could actually be a big problem
light cairn
says kaz
strong hazel
Lol
light cairn
wait i misread his comment, still stands π
teal trench
I'm just... really heavily biased against PvP as a whole. Think of it as a knee-jerk reaction to instantly point a finger of blame or whatever at PvP stuff.
light cairn
why?
teal trench
Old, tired debate that I've had too many times to count. It's based on nothing but personal experience and extreme bias on my end.
strong hazel
neat
light cairn
everyone has their own opinions, not hating on yours was just curious as to why
strong hazel
Nah you can hate pvp all you want, some people just donβt like it, that doesnβt make it bad for everyone
Yeah what skip said
prisma geyser
I mean
teal trench
Eh, okay. Sorry. I immediately went into defensive mode.
prisma geyser
PvP in general is a pretty cool game mechanic
light cairn
Is Tic-Tac-Toe PVP? 
prisma geyser
PvP within the context of NMS is...a bit more of a faceted debate
light cairn
i do not want PVP in NMS unless it's very well done and still seperate
teal trench
I'm referring to LoL and Smite type PvP.
prisma geyser
Oh
teal trench
Killing one another.
prisma geyser
Well then
light cairn
killing each other is how i bond with people π€
strong hazel
lol
prisma geyser
Same
strong hazel
Not a fan of teamkilling myself, but I guess itβs nice
teal trench
Competition against other players (such as racing for resources, certain exp in skills, etc) is great, and can be really fun in some situations. It's the killing of one another type of PvP that I have extremely strong opinions against.
Honestly, this isn't a discrepancy I've ever had to explain before. It makes me wonder if others may have misunderstood it, and been the cause of past arguments.
light cairn
could be.
prisma geyser
You should elaborate because I'm intrigued
strong hazel
^^
light cairn
yeah, i'm still really curious as to why you don't like it
teal trench
I'll repeat this, just in case: It's based on nothing but personal experience and extreme bias on my end.
No hard facts, and lots of generalisation.
strong hazel
Thatβs fine
light cairn
we heard you loud and clear π
strong hazel
Everyone is generalising all the time
light cairn
πΏ
teal trench
The PvP communities as a whole (players killing one another) always seems to be full of toxic nutjobs who don't give one whit about game integrity. Verbal abuse, such as spewing profanity and insults is common practise, as is the 'darker' stuff like DoS, DDoS, and Doxxing. Now, whilst this is true based on my own personal experience, I can also say that I've run into a few friendly people who actually enjoy combat against other players simply because it's fun to them. Theses sorts tend to be honourable, and will even be willing to commend you on the fight, afterwards. However, they're extremely rare. The most common PvP'ers will be keyboard mashing lunatics, who only wish to cause you harm - mentally, emotionally, and if possible, physically. They'll go out of their way to harass you, and make your life a living hell, if you let them.
I can say that I somewhat fit into the honourable category I mentioned, and I do enjoy PvP to that extent. Whilst I am prone to anger, and will become easily upset, I don't take it out on others. It's really difficult for me to enjoy PvP at all in the vast majority of games, due to constantly being matched with the toxic types of people. I lose my temper, and either become extremely sloppy and horrible with my gameplay, or I have to quit and take a break. This - obviously - means I don't get to enjoy myself. So as such, I tend to avoid games that focus entirely on PvP combat, like LoL, Smite, CoD, and other games.
light cairn
i see
teal trench
I tried to cut it down a bit, and make reasonable statements/conclusions.
strong hazel
interesting
Iβve seen that point brought up a lot of times, but always as a reason why the community and playerbase is bad, never before as an argument against pvp itsself
light cairn
i guess most of the things i play i either play with friends or there isn't really any method of communication between players
teal trench
That does help.
light cairn
the only game i play that has consistent communication is Siege
strong hazel
yeah I never really play pvp games alone too
strong hazel
whenever I play pvp I play with friends and then I communicate with them instead of with the enemy. appart from the gl hf at the start and the gg wp at the end I barely talk to opponents
light cairn
i mean...most games now you can't even talk to the enemy at all
strong hazel
well if you ever wanna experience them while talking to others, I'm sure there's a lot of people here who would be up for a game or two, but I can understand if you don't wanna play with random people you met on discord either
light cairn
^^^
teal trench
I've no qualms with teaming up with random people, especially if they are ones I've spoken to prior in a friendly manner - like you, and Skip. A lot of the PvP games I've tried, were heavily prone to attracting Pubstompers, which meant having a team beforehand, would really help.
strong hazel
oh yeah I hate having random teammates too
that's mainly why I stopped playing LoL actively
the people I played with still play regularly but our schedules didn't always match up and I didn't wanna play woth more than 1 or two random people in my team
teal trench
One game in particular, called Robocraft, has a matching system and you can easily get stuck in "ELO Hell", due to how common pubstomping is.
It didn't used to be like that, honestly.
They added a new system in 2017, and it was heavily abused.
MMR Hell, if you know that term better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_hell
strong hazel
yeah, that must suck. I only ever tried robocraft once but it's not my game. way too chaotic
light cairn
same
teal trench
There's a specific Japanese "clan" that camps the matchmaker on new accounts, for easy kills.
We call that smurfing.
light cairn
smurfing is for dweebs
strong hazel
especially when they announce it beforehand "hey, I'm smurfing, I^'m actually diamond" and then they stomp you and you know it's coming
limber harness
did someone say smurfs
teal trench
It's kinda nice to be able to talk to people who know what I'm on about. I'm honestly still shocked y'all didn't try to pick apart the opinion I shared earlier.
limber harness
Join the Enlightened. Join the real side.
teal trench
When I play those games, and people ask "Why play them if you don't enjoy them?" It's like... grrr. I enjoy them, when I can actually enjoy them lol...
light cairn
everyone has their own opinions π€·
strong hazel
why would we pick apart your opinion, we're here to talk about games, not try mand disagree with you at all costs
safe umbra
yo pve sux
teal trench
Yeah, like I said... knee-jerk reaction to immediately be defensive. I'm used to people arguing, seemingly just to argue.
safe umbra
quav yu gy
light cairn
LeJet c'mon
teal trench
Don't get people who want to actually talk, without being an arsehat.
light cairn
i find usually most people here are pretty good
limber harness
why did i get an alert for this channel
light cairn
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
strong hazel
no one knows kaz cause we don't know the triggerwords
teal trench
Probably a tag that was instantly deleted. I was looking at another tab in Chrome.
limber harness
no, not a tag
teal trench
Eh. Weirdly, I've had a red [1] symbol in channels that I never use, and when I go to find it, nothing's there.
limber harness
i have a watcher that tracks and looks for certain words, and alerts me to those too
teal trench
Oh
limber harness
used primarily for server moderation
light cairn
was the keyword "argue?" π€
teal trench
light cairn
heh
teal trench
RuneScape reference in Fortnite.
https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/85wgb6/tldw_370_rs_mobile_showcase/
As much as I despise mobile devices, RuneScape being ported to mobile phones and whatnot as an 'app' is going to be groundbreaking. To my knowledge, no other MMO on the PC has ever done this. It's literally just a game client designed, and built specifically for mobile devices with touch screens. Not a seperate game - you'd be playing side-by-side with people in the same gameworld as those on their cellphone.
light cairn
does roblox count?
teal trench
Lol, it's not really an MMO, is it? It's more in the Minecraft category.
light cairn
yeah π
teal trench
Minecraft is on mobile as well, and has this interconnectivity across consoles, phones, and pcs.
Via Bedrock.
A proper, full fledged MMO, though? That's unheard of.
It's like WoW or Guild Wars 2 being ported to Mobile.
Likely on a larger scale, even, if game content is anything to go by.
RS does hold the guinness world record for being the most frequently updated MMO.
light cairn
neat
teal trench
As of July 25, 2017, Runescape has achieved 3 new Guinness world records, them being the following:
-The most users of an MMO video game being 254,994,744
-The most prolifically updated MMORPG video game which had 1,014 updates
-The most original pieces of music in a video game (including expansions) being 1,198
hey that's my birthday
light cairn
not even one year old and already a mod, incredible
teal trench
23rd of April 1991, is mine.
light cairn
teal trench
These awards can now be added to the already plentiful haul of previous Guinness World Records. Jagex has nine records so far which include 'Most bots banned in a week', 'Most complex HTML 5 code in a videogame' and 'Most Fish in a videogame'. For anyone looking to take that last record, 8 billion fish were caught in RuneScape during 2012. So you'd best get to developing that fishing mechanic. And no auto fishing machines like in Minecraft, real fishing, please.
TIL
So long, and thanks for the 8 billion fish?
strong hazel
bye dolphin
teal trench
Ah, ha! Here we go, @light cairn: http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-prolifically-updated-mmorpg
I knew there was a proper page for it.
light cairn
dang that's a lot of updates
teal trench
Every monday, and sometimes more than once in a week, depending on what it is.
Monday is always patch note day, regardless.
strong hazel
do they always add or balance stuff or is it just the same bugfixes
teal trench
What do you mean, same bug fixes? o.O
teal trench
Oh
No, it's always more than bug fixes. Every monday is new game content, with the patch notes consisting of "other news", such as bug fixes, additional QoL stuff, balancing changes, etc.
strong hazel
oh wow
teal trench
Like, here was this week's patch notes: http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?15,16,24,65998748
Sometimes it's less than others.
This week was pretty low.
This was the main update: http://services.runescape.com/m=news/pieces-of-hate--player-gallery
They added a new quest to the game, called Pieces of Hate. It's the finale to the Pirate quest series.
And mind you, Rs does actual quests. Not those disgusting "kill 10 of this" things most MMOs have.
It's a proper quest with story, lore, and everything.
prisma geyser
I liked RS until the point that the game told me I had to pay to access further content
at which point I deleted my account
note this was in like 2009
teal trench
Lol. You don't have to pay for anything.
prisma geyser
nah I went like, as far east as the game would let me, there was a gate, and it told me I had to buy a subscription or something to go further
teal trench
You can play the game entirely f2p, by just playing the game. Earn gold ingame, and buy Bonds on the Grand Exchange. Use those to purchase membership.
prisma geyser
maybe this was earlier than 2009
teal trench
It's like EVE and WoW in that respect. Membership entirely through gameplay.
prisma geyser
see I was about 14 when that happened
prisma geyser
so I hadn't yet grasped that concept
primal inlet
How much does it take to get 3mil anyway?
teal trench
o.o
strong hazel
is the map in runescape big?
teal trench
You're thinking of 07, @primal inlet.
primal inlet
yes
primal inlet
hmm
teal trench
It's not "RuneScape".
It's the re-release of the 2007 version of the game, which was added in 2013.
It's been heavily modified by player votes.
Anywho, 3m gold in 07 only takes a few hours.
Most gold gathering rates are 200k-800k in f2p.
200k-800k an hour*
@strong hazel I guess that depends on your own perception. It's small compared to WoW, but pretty large once you start playing and realise how everything works.
Increasing the size of the gameworld has been a long-debated thing that is constantly brought up, and talked about by the devs and players. They can always add more to it, but making the "scale" of the existing gameworld larger than it currently is, is a daunting task.
They are constantly adding to it, mind you.
There's already a new continent coming.
prisma geyser
Wait I'm just now scrolling through the PvP discussion
strong hazel
yeah I looked at it on google a bit and it seems that the map isn't huge, but a lot of people are saying that lore wise, it should be extended
teal trench
@prisma geyser PvP in RuneScape is akin to combat in NMS. The game itself is not centred around combat at all. In fact, combat is more of a secondary feature to the main content.
Instead, you have "skills" you train, such as woodcutting, mining, smithing, etc.
prisma geyser
you dislike MOBAs because of the ELO/MMR hell? I mean don't get me wrong it sucks that it's there, but it's not that impossible to climb out of it.
And yea smurfs suck but they're only there for one game either stomping or carrying you, then they're on to the next until they hit their actual rank again.
I guess I'm just a little biased (see: my pfp) but I get where you're coming from, they aren't for everyone c:
teal trench
No, that's not at all it lol. You didn't go up far enough.
@prisma geyser This is why I dislike PvP: https://i.imgur.com/CnbVhBf.png
prisma geyser
ah
and I definitely get where you're coming from now, but I like my solution
"/mute all"
π
at least in League
because I play jungle anyway, so I know the second I don't gank at 2 minutes because they tried to level 1 cheese their enemy laner, I'm getting flamed (such is the life of a jungle main)
strong hazel
do you often play solos though, fluffy? or always with others
prisma geyser
I'm usually solo
don't have any friends in my rank that want to climb with me
q.q
prisma geyser
bruh it's pretty easy to do once you get the hang of it
it's mostly watching the minimap to get an idea of where the enemy is and waiting for a lane to overextend
strong hazel
yeah I know, when I played solo it just always felt like my teammates didn't know what wards were
prisma geyser
lmao that's why I always make sure I keep my most frequented jungle entry warded, and drake/baron depending on game time
what's your rank?
iron inlet
I am champ god 69 rank
prisma geyser
strong hazel
oh I never really played competitive, highest I ggot is silver 3 I think
iron inlet
aka "What is this convo I don't understand help"
prisma geyser
that's pretty decent, I'm silver 2 xP
strong hazel
but I never played more than 30 or so ranked games per season
iron inlet
Champion God is always my default response when someone asks me what rank I am in a game. I'm gonna be screwed when a game comes out where Champion God is a rank though
strong hazel
do you play ranked regularly or are you more of a normals player?
prisma geyser
I almost exclusively play ranked π with the intent of getting Gold 5 and then switching to norms until end of season
teal trench
I'm a nobody in LoL: https://lolprofile.net/summoner/euw/Quavelen
Only played for a little.
strong hazel
just look at my match history to know I'm not exactly good
although, ignore those last 2 games I tried a new kha build
teal trench
I guess my activity is too old, for match history.
prisma geyser
ah fuck I forgot to mention I can only host nightly league matches in NA server
strong hazel
oh right, lol has region lock per account
teal trench
I started LoL in ... 2012 or 2013 or so, before things got huge and blew up.
strong hazel
well, I could always make an NA account but that'd be lvl1
prisma geyser
I mean it'd be norms for NMSCord nights π
strong hazel
yeah lol back then was a wildly different game, meta wise
prisma geyser
the ping might suck tho
strong hazel
can you play custom games from lvl 1 on?
strong hazel
yeha the ping will suck, I'll just play veigar :P
prisma geyser
so you'd be at a disadvantage, unless they removed that
strong hazel
imma make an NA account real quick
teal trench
strong hazel
lol the client has to restart even when I only switch region
strong hazel
you're playing on euw?
teal trench
@strong hazel, here's a more accurate map of RuneScape today:
It includes the Arc Islands.
prisma geyser
nah I'm back on NA
strong hazel
that uh.... looks small and big at the same time
prisma geyser
was talking about when I moved a WHILE ago
I've since moved back to the US from Germany xD
teal trench
We currently only have "The Arc", which is the first cluster of islands, just before The Skull: https://i.imgur.com/T3KPTMz.png
The Skull is coming soon.
Then The Hook
Etc
strong hazel
how big are those islands, for comparison?
strong hazel
ok yeah looks pretty bad for the na client so far, but I guess I'll have to try a game to test it
prisma geyser
aight fam I hope it runs okayish
my wife had like ~120 ping average
which was playable
strong hazel
yeah, can't test it today but I'll probs do it tomorrow, I'll tell you if it's playable
I live pretty close to germany so it should work
teal trench
Here's the main island, Waiko: https://i.imgur.com/W2QY1DH.png
limber harness
colors
strong hazel
is that mountain part of the same island?
teal trench
Yup
strong hazel
ok I might check runescape out sometime
teal trench
I'm using the old interface.
The newest interface doesn't fit too well on 1080p.
I gotta use 1440p to really get any use out of it.
strong hazel
runescape is on mobile?
teal trench
Soon(tm)
strong hazel
can I play the same character on mobile and PC?
teal trench
It's the same exact game.
Just a client
Here's the new interface on Rs: https://i.imgur.com/ywyJFx5.jpg
strong hazel
cause I don't really have a laptop so when I go somewhere else I can never bring games with me
strong hazel
does it have a lot of variety in skills and such?
teal trench
Yes, lol.
strong hazel
cause I love games where you have like 50 skills to pick from and you gotta use 10 or so. like divinity:OS 2