#other-games

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dry copper
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No free games.

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PRESS ENTER ALREADY

quiet hamlet
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i was looking at factorio, they released a paid DLC when they said they never would do that. and i recently discovered on top of never having a sale price for their game, they have now increased the price twice for the game, from 25$ originally, to $45. and their reason stated was inflation lol. Imagine if all game developers increased the price of their game based on inflation or simply because they added content to the game? No mans sky would be $600 right now if they upped the price every update. 😅 Also one of the reason they said they never do a sale price, is because they think it would be unfair that people buy the game at full price, while others buy it at a reduced price. Never mind the fact that some people wait 7 years to buy a game on sale, and therefore they kind of earned the reduced price by not jumping on the hype train, and waiting so many years to enjoy the game. But also their whole logic contradicts with their current game price increase... like now some people bought the game at 25$ while others will be buying it at 45$ isn't this exactly what they said they wanted to avoid with sales? LOL. But I guess they want to reward early buyers maybe. It just seems kind of disingenuous to me.

shadow tartan
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Usual course of action should be account ban, otherwise it's dumb

dry copper
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They can earn a lot more money selling for less

inland oasis
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Not to mention pushing volume over value spreads a good reputation thus buffing any future projects rapport with players

dry copper
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I saw some pretty cool competitors to factorio recently

inland oasis
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Satisfactory is a good game

quiet hamlet
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i saw foundry, think i like them best for now because they have snapping and satisfactory doesnt

shadow tartan
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@dry copper after playing Tiny Glade a bit I don't think I want to play other builders

dry copper
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Think they'll add more functions to tiny glade?

shadow tartan
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Sim City stressed me out because I wanted to be a good mayor

dry copper
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Are there tiny people in tiny glade doing tiny things?

shadow tartan
shadow tartan
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It's fine the way it is though

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You can build cute stuff and walk around

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Wouldn't mind a mix of Dystopika and Tiny Glade

dry copper
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I like the way the game handles manipulating the ground

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It reminds me of Unreal Engine world building

shadow tartan
dry copper
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Paths and topography.

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I think they will add human characters eventually

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They already have animals

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Watching the workflow

shadow tartan
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It's very cozy

dry copper
shadow tartan
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@dry copper are you gonna get Tiny Glade?

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It's therapeutic

shadow tartan
primal loom
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The Talos Principle 2

obtuse reef
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fishie

tranquil glen
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i see on steam its $35

quiet hamlet
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originally it was on sale for 25$ us though, so they already raised it to 30, and now 35 i guess

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but their DLC is worth the same as the base game too

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and they left early access in 2020

tranquil glen
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yea google converter says 25 usd is 48 cad so

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i mean 35*

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complain about a $10 price increase though? for dlc meh, look at astroneer they buffed theirs $10 for basically addng a RPG part to their lil factory building game yet wasnt a dlc was base game

quiet hamlet
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but by raising the price, they basically did what they said they are against

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$25 was the sale price 🤣

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and now the game is $35

tranquil glen
tranquil glen
quiet hamlet
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plus lets say someone does wait 5 years for a game to go on sale, i dont see why the devs feel they don't deserve the game at a sale price, the waiting was already a sacrifice really.

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people pay right away the full price because they don't want to wait for sales

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for some reason factorio devs are very against sales, but then increase the price of their game. and also said they wont have a paid dlc, then have one that is the cost of their base game. i've read that when games have paid DLC it often should drive the cost of the base game a bit lower.

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but instead factorio devs raised base game cost to match DLC price 😄

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it just seems like weird marketing to me

silver sparrow
shadow temple
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they made it into a music video

coarse swift
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didnt expect to see HSR here

orchid fox
inland oasis
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goddamnit. im at the point in rdr2. everyone knows it... its THAT point. this playthrough has gone on for nearly a year or two as i intentionally just played when i wanted instead of doing the story, and now, ||Arthurs diagnosed with TB, and on his way to callout dutch n micah|| all the memories of all my screenshots and the gang, clips, etc, all flooded back to me and im tempted to start a new game again already xD i dont want this one to end 🥲 lmao

inland oasis
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😭 😢

silver sparrow
inland oasis
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fuggin ||dirt nap|| 💀

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"Ah shit, here we go again" Type moment

dry copper
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It certainly was no Aerith

inland oasis
dry copper
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That's what you get for robbing a bank in broad daylight

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You can save lenny, but it's bugged

inland oasis
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I’ve always wondered, was the whole getting sent to guarma and the shitty conditions there the lead up/cause of him ||contracting tuberculosis||? Idk much about it. Or was it just a thing that happened at random for the sake of story and character development? Not like they had the best living conditions either exactly so..

dry copper
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If you throw a stick of dynamite ahead of lenny far enough it doesn't kill him but knocks him over, you can kill the two dudes before they ever get him

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He gets up while you're saying he's dead lol

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This scene made me want to watch the entire show...and also lead to my hatred of Crave for stealing HBO from me

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tranquil glen
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Skyrim child? Ayo?

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“Can’t kill him”

mental rose
inland oasis
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im the most annoying person to fish with. he was all by his lonesome so i decided, im gonna fish right next to em. :3

dry copper
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Cool concept for a game

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In a world abounding with monsters, His Majesty The King tasks you with warding off the threats that surround the land. For this, you are given the role of the proprietor of a fantasy town where you will recruit Heroes, manage your resources and supply your shops with the wares that your Heroes need for their adventures.A Hero's Rest will put yo...

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You're not the hero. You're the town

dry copper
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dry copper
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Bank mortgage rates finally starting to fall

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Down from 6.5% to 4.74%

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I expect the rates to drop below 4% by next year.

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I'm not even trying to get a better rate than I have. Just break even.

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According to ratehub there's a lender offering 3.9% today

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5 year fixed

wind grail
coarse swift
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I wanna be home for Factorio

dry copper
coarse swift
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Diabolical to release Space Age at the start of a work week

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Wube laughing at us

wind grail
mental rose
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I don't understand why the DLC is the same price as the base game...

dry copper
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The only way it changes is if the sales start failing

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They use metrics to determine if the price change was worth it

wind grail
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People still buying = worth it

dry copper
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Not really

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The metric is more nuanced

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They measure sales over a period of time.

wind grail
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True. Volume over time is a key metric

dry copper
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Profit don't mean shit if it still falls below a threshold earned the previous quarter that had more individual sales at a lower price.

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I think they are playing with fire if they feel their fans don't see what they are doing.

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It's much harder to earn trust back once it's lost

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They could be ruining their entire studio

wind grail
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NMS hit 10mil in sales 2 years ago. I wonder where they're at now

dry copper
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Depends on which platform you mean

mental rose
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Well if the game's never gonna go on sale, then there's no reason for me to hurry to buy it, even if Factorio does look interesting.

wind grail
dry copper
mental rose
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However, that price increase after game had already released and blaming it on "inflation" was a bit sus...

wind grail
dry copper
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In 2022, HG posted an operating profit of 102%, with earnings of over 40mil

wind grail
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Nice

dry copper
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The profit almost doubled year over year.

dry copper
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It won't matter if it doesn't hurt their direct sales because they aren't going to remain a studio for long

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Someone in that company is gunna sell them

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That is the conduct of a company trying to raise its profit margins for a profile to sell

coarse swift
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Wow that's a lotta negativity for a game that's doing exceptionally well, why are y'all yapping like this?

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No sale thing doesn't matter, the game is still under $40 and you get a shitload of time out of it. It's well worth the price.
The DLC is effectively a whole new game on top of that. Also well worth the price

dry copper
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Has their price ever changed?

coarse swift
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$30 to $35

dry copper
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I'm looking at their steamdb...

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That's it?

coarse swift
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That's all

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It's only $5 too

mental rose
coarse swift
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Early access price makes sense, wasn't aware of that

dry copper
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EA is always cheaper tho

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If this high price isn't an actual increase...maybe they're not trying to raise their profile. They feel they are worth it.

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Not sure about the DLC.

mental rose
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Ah, sorry. I might be misremembering these numbers.
Anyway bottom line, one price during EA. Increased for 1.0, then increased again later

dry copper
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A DLC that's priced a full game would have to be incredible

coarse swift
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Great game with a ton of care, lots of communication and mod support

coarse swift
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That's times 3, not doing some emoji face hollow

dry copper
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Wonder why they did a DLC instead of a new game.

coarse swift
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Base game was also updated to 2.0

coarse swift
mental rose
dry copper
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Three more planets and space.

coarse swift
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4 more

inland oasis
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i been gettin cravings to play rimworld again i think

dry copper
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Factorio isn't my jam, but I can see how this increase in variety might interest some people

coarse swift
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On top of that, a big hand in the development of Space Age was a modder that did Space Exploration for Factorio: Earendel

mental rose
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Earendel? Sounds Elvish. 😄

dry copper
silver sparrow
inland oasis
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nope last dlc i did was the mechanator one

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biotech? i cant remember the name of that one

dry copper
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Speaking of, Alien dawn was added to the septembers choice bundle

silver sparrow
shadow tartan
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Aww yeah. 2nd gauntlet of ||sharr|| trial done. Party hit level 9!
Starting to unlock the crazy toys

dry copper
dry copper
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Elon Musk is dumb. He thinks his AI is conscious.

pure zinc
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Golden deathwatch

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And funny

obtuse reef
orchid fox
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yoo my boi charon looks fucking rad tbh lol

oak geyser
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Anyone play Phoenix Point?

winter yew
orchid fox
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Somehow

dry copper
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That original image is so old. It was true when the image was first made.

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Exclusivity is the bane of gaming

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Dangerous combo of able to solicit crazy amounts of investments, being very gullible, and having a very good eye for the types of projects that excite people

winter yew
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Exclusivity good for gaming if done properly unique experiences as incentive to buy your console

Only Nintendo can handle this task though

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Only Nintendo can, because only Nintendo makes whatever the hell they feel like making for devices

dry copper
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Even more dangerous as he's wading into technology he understands nothing about, such that he can confidently argue the basis of using philosophy rather than actual science, while in the same breath claim to believe in the scientific method.

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Input scheme conventions be damned

winter yew
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If we get into devices themselves Nintendo tries something new every gen lol

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Switch was genius

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3ds did a lot more than 3d, too

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Gyro input, full featured Street pass, digital retro games

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Street pass is a super fun feature

dry copper
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I watched Musks interview with Lex Fridman...It was like watching a child spitting the lyrics to their favorite song about ghost busters.

obtuse reef
dry copper
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No offense Ghostcart 😛

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Goddamn government contractor that can't shut up

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Hah

obtuse reef
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Elon is showing himself to be increasingly more unstable and incapable of actual complex thought

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If musk played an online military game, he'd totally leak classified info in arguments

dry copper
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Then he'd rip off their technology to profit commercially off other peoples ideas

shadow tartan
dry copper
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I just don't think it's fair to shit on Sony doing what they should've done to begin with

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dry copper
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Exclusivity is garbage

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Sony is slowly learning.

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That's a credit to them

shadow tartan
winter yew
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Sounds like you should be reporting me to moderation if you feel like I'm doing that instead of flame baiting my friend

shadow tartan
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Nah I can just laugh at you

shadow tartan
winter yew
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That's fine but it's clear flame baiting lol
I've been misinformed one time and accepted I was wrong lol

dry copper
shadow tartan
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Get out of my backend

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Gemini is infecting more of my device as we speak

dry copper
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The way their engine seems to be generating search results, sometimes I swear it is so much smarter than a simple boolean engine

shadow tartan
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It's pretty good at times

dry copper
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I don't even have to search what I want. All I have to do is describe it

shadow tartan
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I'm trying to live it with it and see how useful it is

dry copper
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Which is what the current ChatGPT 3.5 can do

shadow tartan
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I have a Google device so might as well

obtuse reef
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winter yew
shadow tartan
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It's a fact and you've been called out on it previously

dry copper
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Correction: Chaptgpt 4.0. Chatgpt corrected me.

shadow tartan
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No point in asking a moderator with no experience on the matter, there are numerous people with actual experience here and you've been caught lying

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Straight up

winter yew
shadow tartan
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Flame baiting?

dry copper
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You're interacting with ChatGPT, specifically the version known as GPT-4 Turbo. This version is designed for more interactive and dynamic conversations, with improved memory and reasoning capabilities compared to previous iterations like GPT-3 or GPT-4. It's part of the broader GPT-4 family, which has advanced natural language processing abilities to assist with a wide range of tasks.

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So, when will the LLM bubble burst?

shadow tartan
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I asked somebody why they bother answering someone trying to bait

shadow tartan
dry copper
winter yew
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You're intentionally baiting toxic responses by being toxic yourself
Then when I respond in kind I'm being toxic it's flame baiting

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Language learning model

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Lol

obtuse reef
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This conversation appears to have degraded greatly

shadow tartan
dry copper
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Steal your robots pants quick!

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FREE PANTS

shadow tartan
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I'll take free pants

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I'll send you my address

coarse swift
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Best to block n move on like I did

shadow tartan
shadow tartan
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It's cathartic to express frustrations

dry copper
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I don't even like the idea of eating a horse.

shadow tartan
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Just to keep people informed, I think being informed is important

shadow tartan
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Quite a bit too

dry copper
shadow tartan
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LOL

winter yew
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Both times mods got involved they sided with what I said actually three if you count the guy that tagged mods on himself
I haven't done anything wrong

coarse swift
coarse swift
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Just not worth the effort with someone like that tbh

winter yew
coarse swift
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@idle saffron what are we thinkin

shadow tartan
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I'm talking about misinformation

winter yew
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No misinformation was said

dry copper
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Don't accuse Gleam of thinking.

obtuse reef
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What the hell is happening

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I look away for three minutes and then this happens

dry copper
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I'm drinking coffee and listening to news podcasts

coarse swift
winter yew
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I think it's time to re read the rules of the server and if you have a issue make a mod report

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Idk. I'm griping about tech influencers and annoying false results from google

dry copper
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Or was that the microsoft one?

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That one was admittedly funny, but it also gives health results

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dry copper
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Musk is such a stinky name

shadow tartan
coarse swift
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It's a musky name

shadow tartan
dry copper
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"What were you named after?"
"I was named after stink"

coarse swift
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Take a big whiff of Elon's musk

shadow tartan
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Guy got lucky with PayPal before getting kicked off, and was admittedly very very good at selling companies from there

dry copper
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"Elon Musk. Meet Carao Burp"

coarse swift
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A lot of those around, like google and amazon

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shadow tartan
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😂

dry copper
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That's....too much

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Speaking off, I used that to make my spaghetti sauce perfect.

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I watched more Flash second season...

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It's getting very "same hat"

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Yep

shadow tartan
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I watched S3 of Lincoln Lawyer and I can't believe all the shit that happens in that guy's life

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And while we're on the subject of TV shows

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Tulsa King

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It's all "How can we challenge the guy that casually moves faster than thought"

dry copper
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Wasn't Matthew McConnaHEY HEY HEY, in Lincoln Lawyer?

shadow tartan
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More flash villains should operate blimps

dry copper
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He can throw himself like a rag doll tho

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He'd just throw himself at the blimp

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Sure, but it would be more interesting than "oops they run faster, gotta go faster"

dry copper
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I'd like to see the guy that can see alternate dimensions be able to see the future and then get into a fight with the flash and basically beat him by predicting everywhere he goes

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At super speed

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Batman does that

winter yew
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I liked the flash series but it was a constant whiplash of downgrade and upgrade of his powers

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Because the batplotarmor

winter yew
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Season 3 was my favorite

dry copper
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I wish the flash would stop waving his arms at fire. There's so many more cool things they could've done to illustrate fanning flames at super speed.

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Or, an in canon explanation:

dry copper
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Waving your hands like it's a black and white sitcom....

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Not entertaining

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Billion claps per second sonic clap

dry copper
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Feels like the three stooges

winter yew
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His ||lightsaber power|| was my favorite
Minior spoiler avoid a power he has

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At least they did something new, yeah

dry copper
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Farts that vibrate the very fabric of reality

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An air horn level fart

winter yew
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I think you're joking but they could probably make a decent comic off of super flash farts

Maybe he'd troll the justice league with his gas

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Like hmm what was that smell ect

dry copper
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They don't even use the bathroom on that show

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They say they are, but they never do

winter yew
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What season are you on?

dry copper
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Not that I want to see them use the bathroom. I just want a proof of concept that they even have intestines.

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Awesome that's a good one

dry copper
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So far it's ass

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It's like they are playing house with all the trash characters they ever conceptualized in the comic series and throwing them into the season for shits and giggles.

winter yew
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Aw man

dry copper
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They bastardized Grodd. I don't even know why they bothered having the character at all but maybe to pay tribute to the character existing

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Better than foil vest cyborg

dry copper
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like...wtf @firestorm

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That comic was awesome.

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That show did the character nasty

winter yew
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My main early season issue is my favorite character||leaves|| and goes to the ||DC heros show||

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Its a cool little tv multiverse tho you're supposed to watch a couple seasons of this then that, then one episode of this show then another of that

dry copper
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Thor does not like Tiktok lol

shadow tartan
dry copper
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story of the intent?

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no idea what that means

shadow tartan
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Corrected it

dry copper
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tiktok fired an intern or thor did?

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TikTok/ByteDance

dry copper
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no didn't see that

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Of AI!!!!

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They don't want Skynet to become real

dry copper
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winter yew
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CULT - Hymns of the Unholy

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Algorithm wars

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Like hacking with more stupidity

shadow tartan
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Geometry Wars but with algorithms

winter yew
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Canadian Amazon has the new Mario for cheap

dry copper
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It even says "Canadian Version"

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Assuming that is Canadian and not just....like...a can of soup

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Who knows with scammers on Amazon

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Can version...You get a can of soup

winter yew
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Lol Amazon has really good customer service I've gotten partial refunds just for plastic seals being broken so you'd be able to get refunded if you got a soup

dry copper
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I'm getting Diapers. I don't need soup.

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Super Mario Brothers Wonder Diapers

dry copper
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I love the title of this game. It's offensively long

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Planetenverteidigungskanonenkommandant

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average German word

barren sparrow
winter yew
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Bjørn just that quick to a rule break lol

dry copper
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More crypto shits

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Coffeezilla is the hero

orchid fox
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oh god its nopt

dry copper
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This looks like the gumbiest version of GTA5 I've ever seen

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It's Only Money is a 3rd person open world simulation game where you take the role of an Undercity resident – someone forced to live amongst the sewers and subways by the newly elected evil Mayor. Along with other Undercity residents, you will venture to the surface to steal, fight and destroy. Take down corporations owned by the Mayor’s corrup...

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I love the presentation

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The game looks like Goat Simulator took over Saints Row

winter yew
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Damn where's the sale 😂

orchid fox
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if anyone have played bdo and are aware of what these are i can just buy both from market lol

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FALLOUT 3 IS TWO DOLLARS TODAAAAY

winter yew
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Hell yeah

finite hazel
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finite hazel
balmy plaza
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Alan wake 2 dlc day 🎉🎉

inland oasis
oak geyser
finite hazel
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finite hazel
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very pretty game

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shadow tartan
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bkTown is somewhere everyone should visit

finite hazel
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😄

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shadow tartan
tame cairn
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got a new job at a gas station

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pretty chill

coarse swift
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I'm gettin pretty tired of games following a trope with names

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"Project: _____"
"_____fall"
"_____born(e)"

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Just gives me a lack of creativity vibe

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Maybe it's shareholder influence or something

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"This type of name resonates with players and makes them remember Titanfall and Bloodborne, use it somehow"

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Greedfall did decently
Titanfall is the only major hit
Godfall flopped
Matterfall flopped
Redfall flopped
Firefall was shut down

shadow tartan
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Just not a high amount of players

mental rose
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The heck is Matterfall?

shadow tartan
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I didn't go back for the last big update

coarse swift
mental rose
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Ah. Explains why I've never heard of it

shadow tartan
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Positive and negative sides to it

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It's marketing mumbo jumbo

coarse swift
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Then we've got Borne

shadow tartan
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Battleborn

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A Star is Born

coarse swift
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Bloodborne being the start of it all and the only major hit
Battleborn had so much potential but released at a bad time
Dustborn isn't worth mentioning
Towerborne flew under the radar a bit

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I'm sure there's others in the same name fashion

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coarse swift
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And the project thing I only knew of at first from Project: Warlock. I thought it was a neat at first since it seemed like a name for an fps attempt someone was making, and it turned out to be a great game

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Then we got into Project Triangle Strategy n whatnot

shadow tartan
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Depends what people think sound or look cool and maybe appear good to focus groups

coarse swift
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Might work better if more than one game actually becomes a hit

shadow tartan
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If you're not an amateur then you go find some metric or analytics to measure it

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Best example to look at is mobile games

coarse swift
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When everyone starts following the same trope in naming it just comes off as trying too hard to grab the same audience

shadow tartan
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Trends mate

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One issue with doing that on console/PC is because of release windows and longer development time, sometimes you can't be quick enough to get on a trend at the right time

coarse swift
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HZD shoulda been Horizonborne

shadow tartan
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Mobile though

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It's mad watching it

coarse swift
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I really can't speak for trends as I'm in the niche category
I avoid mobile games and veer towards factory games n boomer shooters

coarse swift
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Well that too

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I enjoy a good jrpg

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Or rpg

austere lance
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The last mobile game I paid attention to was Marvel Snap, lol

shadow tartan
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Look at all the trends around Genshin and also when they release updates

austere lance
coarse swift
shadow tartan
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Ridiculous income

coarse swift
#

I just hope the writing is still good

shadow tartan
#

I think new Dragon Age might still be worth a play

coarse swift
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Those darkspawn look uncanny as hell tho

shadow tartan
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I'm gonna check it out later

austere lance
#

Inquisition combat was just glorified Mass Effect 3 combat but Fantasy

shadow tartan
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Dragons Dogma 2 and a few other things like that on the back burner

coarse swift
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Those two are so incredibly different in combat

austere lance
#

I tried to like Inquisition, I really did. But it was just lots of walking around and comboing statuses for funny magic explosions, which Bioware has done for every game since ME3

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ME3 had it, Andromeda had it, Inquisition had it, Anthem had it

coarse swift
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There's more than one type of playstyle

austere lance
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The new one has it too but it's at least faster paced, thank god

austere lance
# coarse swift There's more than one type of playstyle

Not really? Comboing statuses (Bioware has a name for it, but I can't remember it right now) is the most efficient way to fight in any of those games. Especially Dragon Age, where the combat is slow af if you don't do it

coarse swift
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But semi open world RPG following traditional RPG elements: surprise surprise, you're gonna walk a lot
I didn't get many magic explosions off of my rogue build ngl, more a lot of slowed down time

coarse swift
shadow tartan
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Worth to look at what they've been focusing on though

austere lance
shadow tartan
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If they've tried something new and it pays off then it's something positive

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Otherwise things are boring and you're just making the same thing again and again until people start quitting

coarse swift
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So long as people aren't walking in expecting the next Baldurs Gate I'm sure it'll do alright

shadow tartan
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Baldurs Gate 2

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I still remember playing the first Dragon Age when it came out

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Was so cool

austere lance
mental rose
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Played Dragon Age Origins and 2. Had a blast with both.
Never tried Inquisition tho.

coarse swift
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Inquisition got me to try Origins since it was my introduction to the series, enjoyed both thoroughly
Never got to play 2

shadow tartan
mental rose
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Origins with the unique prologues for each character type blew my mind the first time. ❤️

shadow tartan
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But I also have to embrace and analyse things

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Because ya never know

dry copper
#

YA NEVER KNOW

shadow tartan
#

Always a gem in there @dry copper

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You know it too

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A diamond in the rough

dry copper
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Free pants

shadow tartan
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No

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Pay for your goddamn pants

dry copper
#

fuck you robots!!

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Robots do not need pants.

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wtf game is "The Lake House"?

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Is that a romance game?

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It's listed as one of the games this new geforce ready driver is for

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Finally Keanu gets the game he always wanted

coarse swift
shadow tartan
dry copper
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Oh. Weird twist in a horror game...veering sharply into Sandra Bullock

shadow tartan
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That kinda slipped my mind till Lazarou reminded me

austere lance
mental rose
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Ok, that makes sense.

shadow tartan
mental rose
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Spend a year at Stowford!In Lakehouse, you spend a year studying at the remote Stowford College in rural England, circa 2004.What follows a bumpy train ride across the southwest is a year of slice-of-life adventures amongst the new friends you'll make at the college, and the chance at a meaningful relationship with one of them.LAKEHOUSE Features...

Release Date

To be announced

dry copper
austere lance
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Peak gaming kekw

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I'm gonna attempt to play DA Origins again, let's see how this goes

winter yew
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That didn't last long

shadow tartan
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I have it on PS now too

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And Inquisition

coarse swift
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I gotta replay Inquisition again sometime, never did play Trespasser

shadow tartan
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Same, I didn't get to finish Inquisition

coarse swift
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Oh and then I gotta play 2

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That way I can hate the Veilguard qunari

shadow tartan
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I need to check if I have 2 on something

dry copper
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Isn't veil whatever available now?

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That nvidia update said it was for that, too

coarse swift
dry copper
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well thats dumb. All the kids will be out trick or treating

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The adults will have to give out candy

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The only ones playing it will be degenerate basement dwellers 😛

coarse swift
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Or people with no kids and adults with no kids in the neighborhood. Weird thing to say

dry copper
#

Almost apocalyptic

austere lance
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Bold of you to assume kids trick or treat anymore. Now they trunk or treat with their crunchy granola parents AhsokaEyeRoll

shadow tartan
dry copper
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trunk or treat? Is that like...Get in the trunk or you don't get a treat?

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The white van is really devolving

shadow tartan
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MumblesKidnapy

austere lance
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No, it's everyone bringing their cars together in one big Karen group and having kids just...take candy from the trunks

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Very popular in the suburbs

shadow tartan
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Circle the wagons

austere lance
#

I blame the existence of HOAs

shadow tartan
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I would hate that shit

dry copper
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Ya mean ghettos don't do it?

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It sounds weird and culty

coarse swift
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Yea that's what HOAs are

dry copper
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How are HOA legal?

shadow tartan
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@finite hazel @primal loom do either do you play Assetto Corsa?

dry copper
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Steam sometimes I don't know if it's broken or corrupt...."So, you like Dragon Age The Veilguard? I saw you looked at it once....ever. MORE LIKE THIS!!!: Starfield!!!"

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I already own starfield.
"...WHY NOT SECOND STARFIELD!?"

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Stupid algorithm is smart enough to compare games across markets but not smart enough to remove the ones displayed that I already own.

primal loom
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I've played Automobilista 2 though

finite hazel
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😄

dry copper
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A part of me hopes Squadron 42 is shit and drives RSI to downsize the SC project entirely

finite hazel
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the other part of you wishes them to succeed ofc

dry copper
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They released a gameplay reveal today

finite hazel
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oh really

dry copper
finite hazel
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i was reading an article that supposedly 2026 is now the release date

dry copper
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I wouldn't be surprised if the release date was 2954

shadow tartan
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So we will be alive for it

primal loom
dry copper
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I think they might be late

finite hazel
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10y late

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hey, better late than never

dry copper
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Not sure I'd agree.

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At some point late might as well be never.

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Ask any child abandoned by a parent that wanted to come back onto the scene

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You put your hopes and trust into a bottle....late doesn't cut it

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Late is just delayed betrayal

finite hazel
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idk - i'd prefer to get something done right, than filled with bugs

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they probably could have called it a day already with "1.0" i guess

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release it as is

dry copper
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If it took ten years to do it right, I'd prefer they gave the task to more capable hands

finite hazel
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then fix it

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i mean, they had to be doing something lol

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what they have rn, i mean, i haven't really seen anything in terms of trailers and such, but i've seen lots of buggy games

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if this is going to be the space sim, then i'm not super surprised it took 10y

shadow tartan
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In the grand scheme of things 10 years for building on an engine and developing game content in tandem with it at that scope isn't actually that bad

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I just joke about it

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They have people investing and playing so it's whatever it is

finite hazel
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from what i've seen, it looks gorgeous, straight up

shadow tartan
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Yeah

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It's just not in line with what people's expectations are

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I think it looks cool af

finite hazel
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i think i'll keep my current stance on it - release it to the masses, then we'll see

dry copper
finite hazel
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is that from the game yeah?

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dangg

finite hazel
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yeaah

shadow tartan
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@sleek cloud you still playing it?

finite hazel
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i'm more of an explorer/cataloger myself

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but asteroid mining is cool too

shadow tartan
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Same and a hoarder

dry copper
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I like building

primal loom
sleek cloud
shadow tartan
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The ships look so sick

dry copper
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esp the 40k dollar ones

finite hazel
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so yeah, release the game, then we'll see: the pricing, the min/rec pc specs, and we'll see

dry copper
primal loom
primal loom
shadow tartan
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It's not that big size wise, hopefully console gets it at some point too

dry copper
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The word is shameful.

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Game has enough money to give that shit away for free and they are charging a fortune literally for it

coarse swift
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Worse is that people will still buy it

primal loom
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Indeed

dry copper
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Because the devs know who their whalers are

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These whales aren't subtle about having more money than brains.

shadow tartan
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Rich people shit

coarse swift
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Thats usually the case with most rich people

primal loom
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@finite hazel Outpost

shadow tartan
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Oh wow

primal loom
shadow tartan
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Have they made those procedural cities? @primal loom

finite hazel
primal loom
coarse swift
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This lamp doesn't cast a shadow for itself

shadow tartan
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Ah

primal loom
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Real talk though, the tech debt with Star Citizen is a big problem since it's taking so long to create

dry copper
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They are taking so long that it's going to be obsolete on launch

shadow tartan
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Well, won't it just be a game on mainstream stores for people to purchase?

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It's a space sim, people that like space sims will see it and buy it

coarse swift
dry copper
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I hope their networking technology is highly adaptable and capable of dynamically merging servers as the population jumps and plummets

shadow tartan
primal loom
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That's been one of the major snags for the past decade

shadow tartan
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And if others are playing it

coarse swift
primal loom
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Their server tech isn't there for what they want to do, and it has a cascading effect on everything else

dry copper
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Once the population hits a low, that low population will turn the game into a ghost town

orchid fox
# primal loom

Is it bad i genuinly cant tell if this is wf or sone other stuff as i frequent operator a lot

Editors note: im on phone atm

primal loom
dry copper
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Not a lot of people enjoy playing a single player mmo

coarse swift
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Also not sure what exactly you can do in Star Citizen

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I've only seen that it's apparently a pretty game

orchid fox
dry copper
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In Star Citizen you can mine and walk around and mine and walk around and kill people and walk around and fly a pew pew

orchid fox
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Pretty literally no substance what so evee

coarse swift
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So you're telling me Starfield has more content...?

shadow tartan
dry copper
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I like building.

orchid fox
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But anyway wanna buy digital fomo ownership for a 10y beta for several million for a product that literally fucking dont work anyhow?

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For a grand each 💀

dry copper
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I don't believe Star Citizen will ever properly be able to handle the networking necessary to avoid the cascade effect of population change

primal loom
# coarse swift Also not sure what exactly you can do in Star Citizen

It actually has a decently wide variety of activities (mining in space/land vehicles/on-foot, bounties, zero-g EVA combat, dogfighting, cargo hauling, etc.)

The problem is the constant barrage of game-breaking issues, mostly due to server architecture being a placeholder that is unlikely to be properly overhauled anytime soon

primal loom
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Pretty but wildly unfinished

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Oh. it looked like a nms hallway

primal loom
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High praise for NMS's graphical improvements over the years, ha HeartExo

coarse swift
orchid fox
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primal loom
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supposedly the single player story campaign is WIP

primal loom
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Squadron 42 will allegedly be a singleplayer story campaign set in the same universe, whenever and if ever it releases

orchid fox
primal loom
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Current release date for Squadron 42 is 2026, but the first one was 2014, lmao

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If you ask me, they should get it working in single player before trying to perfect networking

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Like, maybe make it so we don't die in the subway on the way to our ships

coarse swift
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Sorry risbeak if im too pecimistic but the shit they have pulled wity their funding does not fucking pleasevme with the tine they are given and not even a consumer of theirs @primal loom

inland oasis
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thats how i played it lol

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I've given them $60, and been content to wait

inland oasis
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they can be terrible AND have a product thats really well done.

primal loom
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Space GTA is a good way to describe it honestly

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Just more tedious in most interactions than most games are

inland oasis
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i paid 48$ and its impressive how much detail and shit to do there is, all be it really hard for me to get into since its so overwhelming.

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it does not hold your hand

coarse swift
coarse swift
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The big goal also allowing me to see my work do its thing, so factory games

coarse swift
orchid fox
# charred badge I've given them $60, and been content to wait

Im not speaking of the individual but everyone that ever consumedvthe game thats not even developed forbpretty much s decade bar graphics. Ive seen footage its not even a product that feasibly can be consumed in current state in the traditional sense so im just fucking lost tbh

coarse swift
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I haven't touched Roblox since 2006

inland oasis
primal loom
orchid fox
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Am i making sense?

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It doesnt have substance in most footage i see

primal loom
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It depends, the parts that are actually finished are truly impressive

coarse swift
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I feel like you could piss off so many SC fans if you told them Starfield had more substance

inland oasis
primal loom
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Yeah, very sim-like

inland oasis
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it was awesome the first few times

primal loom
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And sims are a niche genre for a reason

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Most people don't want to deal with all the tedium after going about their day

orchid fox
primal loom
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I 100% get what you're sayin GekHappy

orchid fox
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But ill shut it i feel im geniounly pissing myself off just speaking on subject

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Ttyl

primal loom
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Take care friend

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I'll take this moment to plug Lightyear Frontier

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Mech-based farming simulator set on another planet (There is no flying though), handcrafted but sizeable world

coarse swift
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Been meaning to play that again

primal loom
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Very cute and relaxing, they just had an update that adds animals and some NPC neighbor friends

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There's somethin' about being a farmer in space that just hits right for me

inland oasis
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thats why idk why slime rancher hit for me. i had fun with that for surprisingly alot longer than i expected

shadow tartan
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Beak Skywalker

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You played HD2 recently? @primal loom

primal loom
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I haven't played Slime Rancher but I've been meaning to! Looks fun

coarse swift
primal loom
primal loom
shadow tartan
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That's what I want to hear, for democracy

fleet moat
primal loom
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So many good rebalancing changes

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Now I'm just waiting for them to add even higher difficulties GekSus

inland oasis
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above lethal? :3

coarse swift
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Need to fix the gas drone tho

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By the time it goes after an enemy, if at all, it fires too late to make it worthwhile

inland oasis
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@shadow tartan oh yea i tried the auto scorcher mode now, love it, but fallen in love with the explosive crossbow now xD

shadow tartan
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Loads of weapons are viable now

inland oasis
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saving for the one weapon thats a flamethrower, but not the stratagem

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and the pistol

primal loom
shadow tartan
coarse swift
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Can't wait to be an illuminate diver

primal loom
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I'm so hyped for them

coarse swift
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I'm gonna get so good at killing those

shadow tartan
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They're fuckers

primal loom
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My beloved Protoss-adjacent squidbois

shadow tartan
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But it's the coolest shit you fight in the first game

inland oasis
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unstratagizes your stratagem

primal loom
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I fear the ||energy walls that can rip you in half instantly||

coarse swift
shadow tartan
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Fucking terrifying

inland oasis
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i wanna pet the hive lord when they drop it.

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can i pet dat dawg

primal loom
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you can pet dat dawg

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For anyone curious of the Helldivers 1 galactic map view

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Note that there is a massive empty space in the south of the Helldivers 2 map 😏

inland oasis
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theres so many times i tell myself i wish i could just land on ANY planet, just to see them. feels like so much wasted development

primal loom
#

Shore leave

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With fishing minigame

inland oasis
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heres 40 planets. u fight on 10 of them....

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like uhhh welp

primal loom
#

You can leave the Creek, but the Creek doesn't leave you

shadow tartan
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Just some biomes innit

primal loom
#

innit is

inland oasis
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i would get marked AWOL for my inability to stop fishing

primal loom
shadow tartan
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Maybe at the one year mark we'll see a boss

primal loom
#

Origins of SEAF's Singularity WMD used on Meridia

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Lightyear Frontier is so pretty n' chill

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Already a very well polished and complete feeling game despite being in early access

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Essentially all that is left is to add some more story content and areas to explore + progression tiers to go along with those areas

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Function and aesthetics of the rest of the game are in a mostly finalized state

dry copper
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I wanna go into a house and decorate it.

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I don't wanna click a house and automatically sleep

primal loom
#

True, I want house interiors too

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Devs expressed an interest in doing it if they manage to find the time to do it properly

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That and some sort of irrigation system are the last things on my pie in the sky wishlist for it

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Now that they've added critters and all

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Lumblooms

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Lumblooms in bloom

inland oasis
primal loom
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Yep, seeds are planted with a mostly even spacing

inland oasis
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sheesh XD tedious

primal loom
#

There's an upgrade on the mech to auto-aim and plant in bulk which is helpful

dry copper
inland oasis
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ahhh vry nice

primal loom
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Very tedious at first though, lol

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But fun

inland oasis
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thats how farming in valheim is

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1 by one

primal loom
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You shoot the seeds into the ground with a gun on your mech tractor

inland oasis
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no snapping

primal loom
primal loom
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Lightyear Frontier has a grid to snap to though, even when manually aiming

dry copper
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There's definitely snapping

inland oasis
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i gotta reinstall farming sim 2022 sometime. thats another game that has so much freedom and not enough "tell me" what to do to it that i just end up overwhelmed or bored cuz im not creative enough to think of what i need or wanna do

primal loom
# inland oasis no snapping

I have planted many a carrot and onion in Valheim, it is second only to Life is Feudal to tedious peasant farming simulator 😅

inland oasis
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turnips ftw

primal loom
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Ah that's right, it was turnips lol

dry copper
primal loom
#

It can be both

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Like Star Citizen 🤭

dry copper
#

If it wasn't a buggy mess, it wouldn't be tedious

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I liked the grind. I hated the bugs ruining my progress.

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I hated the bugs so much I quit

primal loom
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It's been a long time since I've tried it but I recall the UX being clunky

dry copper
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hahaha, IGN firing shots at GamePass

orchid fox
primal loom
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But this, is Lightyear Frontier. Ain't no place like home

kind mica
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hi, is there any shooter mmorpg game like planetside 2 but with way better graphics?

dry copper
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planetside is not a mmorpg

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Planetside 2 is a mmofps

coarse swift
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They were asking for other games, not to get a pedantic correction

dry copper
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It matters if you want other games that fit a specific narrative

coarse swift
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Planetside has kinda been a one of a kind type of game for a long time

dry copper
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plus...does it have to be free, too?

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Because PS2 I think is free no?

coarse swift
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Yea looks like FOXHOLE is the same open war MMO type but it's isometric

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Also has some factory building elements

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But lol, to put it into perspective, the reason there's still so many PS2 players is because there's no alternative

dry copper
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Foxhole is very logistics heavy. It def doesn't hold your hand. I think it's cool conceptually, but I also see it having a big problem

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The game is full of gun suckers who bitch about their being no bullets but treat the players who make the bullets like shit

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Then act surprised when they say fuck you

dry copper
#

A literal strike in a video game

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Battlefield 2042 looks like it might be okay

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I haven't played it but the setting looks fun

austere lance
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Fuck that, play Battlefield One. It just got anti-cheat (it was desperately needed, that game was full of hackers) and the servers are starting to pop off again

dry copper
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The newer bf1 or the original bf1?

austere lance
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The WW1 game

mental rose
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I miss BF2142 and it's sci-fi setting

coarse swift
#

Same

dry copper
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It's an active warzone and they're bitching about work conditions.

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Contracted factories/etc.

dry copper
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Yeah. Too bad they don't have that in foxhole.

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Everyone's basically on or close to the front lines.

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Nature of the game scope

dry copper
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Logistics is basically a role people play rather than actual shipping from out of the war into it

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Anvil looks equally ambitious

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It's like people playing Freelancer Disco and needing to RP meetings and such with everyone in a personal ship "docked" around stations

dry copper
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Anvil Empires is the same engine and concept as Foxhole but set pre-guns

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You're set in a massive world map with medieval technology

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Longbow supremacy or more game balanced?

dry copper
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I'd say good luck getting supremacy with a long bow with how limited range you can see away

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It's isometric

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Knights walking like tanks, or slightly encumbered guys?

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Ahh

dry copper
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The developers seem to have built a strategic advantage for actual wars. You have a stability stat that increases when you're beside a comrad.

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It was funny to learn than modern soldiers haul more gear weight than knights in full plate

dry copper
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So a wall of soldiers has a lot more stability and is harder to break through than one person

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I saw one fight where the soldiers were using phalanx strategies in battle

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Nice

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Individual players, all?

dry copper
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yes

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It was like 30 dudes

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Alright, that's cool

dry copper
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Shields up 300 style

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As long as the population holds

wind grail
tranquil glen
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hi

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Yeah. Dudes in plate with zweihanders can still dance around.

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Too much media playing up their mass to encourage other playstyles, I think

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Or make it believable that the single plucky farmboy with a magic sword can go toe to toe?

wind grail
#

At least that suit prob has some movement assistance tech in it

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Yeah. Powered by a nuclear battery that lasts about an hour

dry copper
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That's because dude never specced the perks

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I understand the entire supporting economy of "There is literally no oil", but nuclear batteries?

dry copper
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I hated needing to spec into power armor.

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It drove me away from playing fo76

austere lance
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Yep

dry copper
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Power Armor was supposed to be fun. Not a chore you needed to build around.

austere lance
#

That and the fusion core economy being dogshit

dry copper
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I don't know about any fusion core economy. I had a fusion core recharging station.

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I just recharged my shit

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They need to make a swap out hotkey for fusion cores in weapons though...manually swapping fusion cores before your ammo blows the whole core is fucking stupid

austere lance
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So I didn't bother

dry copper
junior elk
dry copper
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I don't know if this is hyperbole. I don't trust bellular to not be hyperbolic...but I can't find this story anywhere else.

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Good news apparently

tranquil glen
#

Ive never heard of bellular

dry copper
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He always says things with a negative slant

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So very pessimistic

tranquil glen
#

Least i wont get emails from HG anymore

orchid fox
orchid fox
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let me not even start on the fact he was gonna experience other games and mmos and that channel has been dead since endwalker ffxiv as he crawled back to wow where 90% of his vids is mianly positive almost no citisicm is layered so avoid^2

dry copper
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@rapid viper I've been keeping an eye out for ya....FO4 GOTY edition on Gog, $9 right now, on sale

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So you can play the london thing and not have to deal with steam

rapid viper
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Damn, I almost forgot that whole conversation. It’s been a hot minute.

dry copper
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Wouldn't want you to miss a huge discount on GOG

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I know I'm getting it.

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My luck the next free distro on prime gaming will include FO4 GOTY edition

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After I already bought it

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Skyrim is on sale too

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I hear the public opinion wave is trending upward again on fo4?

cloud jay
#

Anyone here?

dry copper
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shadow tartan
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inland oasis
#

Monster Hunter Wilds Beta dates

orchid fox
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wilds beta in a week good fucking luck avoiding media for ones that decide to do so

mental rose
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Oh. First time I'm seeing them do an open beta for MH

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Neat.

cloud jay
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Hey I need a robust jrpg-like game to play in the vein of the FF-series, CT, DQ..."traditional" I guess, but with substance. I'm plodding through Octopath 1/2, but the combat system just seems a little forced. I get it's a huge part of the game, but not my favorite feature ever. Preferably a game available on PC, but I can fire up "old systems."

dry copper
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It's funny how you name these giant games and pretend they have no substance

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Like saying to a bar of people, "I want a hot girl like your gf but with more substance"

coarse swift
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it was so much of a specific ask that I ignored it

dry copper
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I don't play JRPG myself...I'd be a bad suggestion. Maybe Persona 5

coarse swift
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What I'm taking from "needs substance" and "combat feels forced" is they dont like turn-based rpgs but still want it to feel like a classic rpg

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jrpg specifically

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Which the classics were always turn based

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Too much of a conditional thing as whether or not a game has substance is dependent on the player

shadow tartan
dry copper
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What about second breakfast?

shadow tartan
austere lance
shadow tartan
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What the fuck am I saying

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I still might buy this

mental rose
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If I was a hardcore Doom fan (I only dabble with the games) I'd buy it instantly for that BFG model.

shadow tartan
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I wasn't hardcore enough to buy this

austere lance
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I got it free with Amazon Prime when the game released, lol

tranquil glen
mental rose
shadow tartan
cloud jay
shadow tartan
austere lance
balmy plaza
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Damn, star citizen 1.0 sounds rough

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Basically a survival game take on eve with 100% player generated content

cloud jay
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The industry has evolved and moved on.

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I like OT 1&2, but I'm just not crazy about their specific combat mechanics.

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A fool's hope, I guess, that I may have missed some games out there. I'm looking for games like those that I haven't played yet. They just don't really exist.

mental rose
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cloud jay
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Yeah, I listed CT. But it's a perfect suggestion. I have the original SNES cartridge next to me, actually.

mental rose
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@cloud jay I can also recommend this, if you don't mind the fact it's basically a jrpg parody game. 😄 https://store.steampowered.com/app/1020470/Evoland_Legendary_Edition/

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You start at GBC-era, then throughout the game you go through the evolution of the genre

cloud jay
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Ha! That sounds interesting.

shadow tartan
shadow tartan
cloud jay
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I have not. I emulate the SNES version whenever I feel like a playthrough.

mental rose
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Nothing against the OG, but I think the PS1 version is superior simply because you get those cool anime cutscenes by Akira Toriyama (God rest his soul)

shadow tartan
cloud jay
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I picked up the Steam version on sale a while ago. I couldn't get past the tweaks to the script. They changed bits of conversations for reasons that are beyond me aside from maybe trying to remain PC.

shadow tartan
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Yeah that's the same as the newer DS version

cloud jay
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Like, they changed calling johnny "the Man" to boss or something. Things like that. It stuck out to me because of the shear number of playthroughs I've amassed. I "get" it, but it felt overly done and forced. You wouldn't go in and paint over the Mona Lisa...

shadow tartan
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I think they still sell the OG version because of that

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Ah, not on the store anymore

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Boooo

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I love Chrono Trigger

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Ayla is the ideal woman imo

cloud jay
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Like, what projects like 7th Heaven have done for games like FF7 with fixing translations and stuff. I can accept that more than trying to pigeon-hole a 1995 game in 2020.

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CT and FF6/7 are my top 3 from the genre.

shadow tartan
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Have you played Remake and Rebirth?

shadow tartan
cloud jay
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I remain on the fence. FF7 blew my mind when it came out. I was 13 and swimming in titles like the early legend of zeldas, FF, Secret of Mana...

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I haven't tried them...I look at them periodically.

shadow tartan
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We're around the same age then

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I still have all those carts

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We'd be kicking ourselves now if we sold them

cloud jay
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The black-backed discs from FF7... 🤤