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austere lance
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I can't even imagine how expensive the damn HZD movie is gonna be to make 💀

shadow tartan
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Imagine people getting paid and being bored or not motivated

dry copper
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That's hardly an excuse for wasting money.

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With all these layoffs

shadow tartan
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@dry copper you should come do my job

dry copper
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Do I get the dogs?

shadow tartan
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No that's side hustle

dry copper
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rip off

shadow tartan
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Nobody gets my dog

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Bruv I told you

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Get a fucking dog

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You need to train it and go be happy again

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I've had a dog during majority of my projects

dry copper
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I wonder how much Guerrila Games has to eat Sony's shit with HZD being so popular

shadow tartan
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Plus the dog will take out them racoons

dry copper
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I bet HZD changed how the entire studio can even operate

shadow tartan
shadow tartan
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They moved from shooters to open world

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And were given the time and resources

dry copper
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Success with a heavy weight over your shoulder makes it hard to move around once that heavy weight starts pushing you in a direction

shadow tartan
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When you have history, clout and consistency you don't have to eat shit

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That's just your hot take

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They managed their transition effectively over time because it's something they wanted to do

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Go read about it

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Or don't, because ignorance is bliss

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Either way that's an old story

grand mica
dry copper
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Hot

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Hot dog

grand mica
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Could be corn too.

shadow tartan
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Most people I know that worked there had very positive things to say

grand mica
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Corn dog.

silver sparrow
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Real corn

shadow tartan
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@grand mica This gas filled sack of excitement

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Tried to gas me like it was 1939

grand mica
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Hahahaha

silver sparrow
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They’re eating the pets

grand mica
shadow tartan
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They're eading

grand mica
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Eading.

shadow tartan
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The dawgs

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They're eading

obtuse reef
# dry copper rip off

I’ve got the living embodiment of the word “excited” that you could take off my hands.

shadow tartan
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The cats

shadow tartan
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They're coming in

grand mica
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Why did he say such things. Smh my head.

shadow tartan
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He's a comedy genius

grand mica
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He is, truly.

obtuse reef
shadow tartan
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Ill informed comedy genius

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Ill informed like.....

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Dare I say it

grand mica
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All of his speeches and debates are comedy, teagedy but comedy.

grand mica
shadow tartan
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Same thing

grand mica
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How far?

silver sparrow
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Teagedy Teagedy Teagedy

grand mica
dry copper
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Eading teagedy

grand mica
shadow tartan
obtuse reef
grand mica
dry copper
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Ouch. Why did Angie Smets leave the studio to go work for big-brother?

shadow tartan
grand mica
silver sparrow
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#serious

shadow tartan
obtuse reef
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At this point I’m not sure if this is some elaborate trolling attempt, and frankly, I’m too scared to ask

shadow tartan
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Bring that channel back but with no politics

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Let me go ham

dry copper
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Eh. I didn't know Death Stranding used their game engine.

shadow tartan
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Seriously

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Bruv

hollow perch
shadow tartan
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Here you go

dry copper
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I don't think they're doing this remaster as just spending time.

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Or money

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They're deliberately raising the profile of HZD ahead of what looks like an Online Project of some sort, if this wiki is accurate

shadow tartan
dry copper
shadow tartan
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Highlighted a bunch of failures during a project so they asked me to come help sort it out

inland oasis
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Shush emperor! Im hunting Xenos! :3

dry copper
shadow tartan
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@idle saffron those breadcrumbs eh

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Never go stale, always age well

dry copper
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Horizon MMO with Guild Wars developers? Woooo

obtuse reef
inland oasis
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eating a tyranid would be the last thing youd wanna do

obtuse reef
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I wonder what they taste like

dry copper
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inland oasis
dry copper
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NCSoft developing a MMO using HZD franchise

mental rose
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Space Marines can draw sustenance from almost anything (including motor oil apparently)
However Tyranid meat will kill even them. 😄

obtuse reef
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Tyranids are just annoying in general

grand mica
obtuse reef
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Damn bugs

dry copper
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I fucking hate when videos play and use the discord audio queue sound used to indicate you have a message waiting to be read, in the video

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I'm already listening to the video. Don't piss me off to scrub the recording to make sure I didn't get a msg I missed, too

shadow tartan
obtuse reef
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Yeah, it’s annoying, but usually I realize it pretty quick once I notice I don’t have any notifications

austere lance
# obtuse reef I wonder what they taste like

Tyranids have organic "guns" built into them that shoot worms, and said worms burrow through you til they find a vital organ then explode. That's what they're shooting us with in SM2. I ain't eating any of them mfers, LMAO

obtuse reef
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You just have no sense of adventure

inland oasis
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just make sure to cook it "well beyond done"

austere lance
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That's what the Melta is for 😌

grand mica
shadow tartan
inland oasis
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im only doing it on the easiest difficulty for fun

shadow tartan
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Just one example of many

restive tusk
inland oasis
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but i did my first 3rd tier difficulty a few mins ago with sniper

shadow tartan
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Tera was alright

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Went Templar

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Absolutely dirty in PvP

shadow tartan
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It was alright

grand mica
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I played the game until it wasn’t worth playing.

restive tusk
grand mica
restive tusk
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i'm never getting that time back

shadow tartan
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Around that time I tried a bunch of MMOs but couldn't put the time in because of work

restive tusk
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i went on and tried too many F2P mmo's. all had the same problems

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I'm fine with grind, not so fine that grind being artificially put in place to sell shortcuts

shadow tartan
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2008-2018 was intense

restive tusk
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Nobody wants this, but i wish there were still more mmo's in subscription model

shadow tartan
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I didn't mind paying a sub

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But then Battlefield 3 came out

restive tusk
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😂

shadow tartan
coarse swift
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Id play FFXIV if it didn't require sub for most of the content

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And buying the latest new expansion

shadow tartan
mental rose
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The latter I even played competitively for a bit. 😄

shadow tartan
shadow tartan
quaint escarp
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that was like 30 years ago

shadow tartan
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That was Medal of Honour

shadow tartan
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Your Japanese veeeeery gooooood
My Inguris veeeeery gooooood

dry copper
shadow tartan
dry copper
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I do pluck myself, regularly. It's now I keep this shape.

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He rages about MC so much

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lol

shadow tartan
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MumblesMonobrow

dry copper
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Imagine being paid to be angry about Minecraft.

shadow tartan
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Why do you even watch this shit

dry copper
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I have a hole in my universe

shadow tartan
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Want me to plug it?

coarse swift
dry copper
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Nothing escapes the hole!!

shadow tartan
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Parking a bicycle in an airplane hangar

dry copper
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I don't like the idea of drinking tea and getting tapioca balls in my mouth. Why do people do it?

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I almost bought Chef RPG

dry copper
marble idol
inland oasis
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I’m sort of shocked that a type of axe or chain axe didn’t find its way yet into SM2.

jagged hearth
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Hi I'm Alessandro
any friends joining for a space adventure?

restive tusk
inland oasis
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Space!

jagged hearth
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I'm new to no man sky and it looks like I'm alone in space

inland oasis
marble idol
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Are any of these worth picking up?

tame cairn
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homelander is pretty strong in his universe

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outside of it hes really weak

marble idol
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Their games are overpriced AF though and never go on sale.

marble idol
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God...

winter yew
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Make a email sign up for free 30 day trial

marble idol
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Anyway I don't know about exploits, but Prime is intended to be a paid service, so anything that is locked behind it isn't free, by definition.

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If we're talking about unintended ways of getting stuff for free, this is the least practical one.

shadow tartan
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I use Prime to order pet food

winter yew
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You can cancel right away and keep the 30 days of prime if you're worried you'll forget too

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grand mica
swift gust
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oh r u using like reshades or anything

grand mica
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I did use some env and lighting mods.

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No ReShade

swift gust
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it just looks washed of it's colour ik cyberpunk for like yea it looks realistic but no bright neon colours yk

dry copper
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My subscription is for free shipping 😛

winter yew
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Hell yeah

dry copper
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So I get free shipping, free games, streaming service, a free sub for twitch prime with any one streamer I want, drops on subscription games and access to luna a cloud gaming computing platform that I will never use.

silver sparrow
dry copper
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Amazon Games are PC

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Though that would be a good idea for them to consider

shadow tartan
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But Amazon so evil

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They're not even a real rainforest

dry copper
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I'm the most evil.

shadow tartan
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No you're a softy

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GoodyTwoMalarkys

dry copper
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I'm an entitled cis white male with all of the advantages of the white man but money

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If I had money I'd be the poster boy for ...who am I kidding. I'd never be on the internet if I had money

dry copper
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Do you reuse facemasks too?

shadow tartan
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I don't even use a facemask, that's how bad I am

winter yew
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Idc what crimes Amazon does lol
Keep running me free stuff and easy returns with fast shipping

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I'll keep looking the other way

dry copper
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In Canada, Amazon factories are starting unions

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I wonder how long before Amazon pulls out of the country

winter yew
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Infact as per this very discord when my no man's sky came with a damaged case they just sent me a new copy of no man's sky for free & told me just to keep the old one
You can't beat Amazon

dry copper
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I beat Amazon all the time. I beat them so much they stopped answering the phone.

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Now I just get automated messages

winter yew
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Lol wtf

dry copper
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It's a robot answering the phone now.

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Their customer service has really declined

winter yew
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Ah I never called always just emailed I'm a big physical collector and report any damage

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Even if the plastic is torn or its unofficially resealed
I ordered a sealed copy not a used one

dry copper
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"I ordered a fresh brand new copy of no mans sky and you sent me a bootleg copy of "Seananners Guy", a collection of youtube videos...wtf amazon"

shadow tartan
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@dry copper stop harassing Jeff

winter yew
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😅
With no man's sky specifically the plastic case was actually broken

Like someone in a boot stepped on it

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I couldn't find the pic but here's my Marvel ultimate Alliance 3 that came with teeth marks

Warning: hard to see

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Amazon always been good for returns lol

orchid fox
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Its worth it even if u dont like the sub

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Lol

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Imho

orchid fox
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Also wdym "most" it only gates u off when ur done with post stormblood msq

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And thats 70s

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?_?

quaint escarp
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Nintendo w/ The Pokemon Company have filed a patent infringement lawsuit in the Tokyo District Court against Pocketpair Inc.

This lawsuit seeks an injunction against infringement and compensation for damages on the grounds that Palworld, a game developed and released by the

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they finally filed a lawsuit against palworld

obtuse reef
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I'm surprised it took this long

fallen notch
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But for... patents

quaint escarp
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it takes time to gather evidence

obtuse reef
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wait, what has nintendo patented?

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well, that could be violated by the Palworld devs

quaint escarp
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creatures in balls im guessing

winter yew
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Oh I got beat to it lol

winter yew
quaint escarp
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its a patent dispute

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not design issue

winter yew
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Should be a design issue
It was discovered long ago how close some models were but hey atleast somthing finally happened

quaint escarp
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and pokemon copied similar designs from digimon

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this is most likely a lawsuit on game mechanics bc u dont patent character designs in a game

winter yew
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You too-isms aside Digimon can't afford to take on nintendo in court

quaint escarp
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thats copyright

coarse swift
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Gamefreak did more harm to Nintendo than Palworld ever did

quaint escarp
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? im talking back in the day when nintendo wasnt high and mighty

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character design is moot when it literally says patent infringements

winter yew
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I might have to actually buy palworld now incase it gets removed lol

quaint escarp
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itll be something stupid like catching the pals with a sphere could infringe on pokemon

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"throwing and catching creatures with spherical object"

winter yew
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Now that you mention it I don't know of one other monster catcher that uses balls
In world of final fantasy it's cubes for example

quaint escarp
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so basically they are going after them on dumb mechanics

winter yew
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It is their gimmick and design iduno it'll probably settle out kf court

quaint escarp
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i always found that dumb, i think either konami or capcom patented minigames during loading screens

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which is so shitty to patent

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oh it was bandai

winter yew
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I never actually played palworld but don't catching monsters even function exactly like legends arceus

quaint escarp
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didnt play arceus no idea

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think pocketpair might just end up changing whatever it is that nintendo thinks is infringed

obtuse reef
quaint escarp
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its not copyright

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its patent

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so its a game mechanic palworld inplemented that nintendo has patented that they are taking them on

coarse swift
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which could be just capturing creatures in ball-shaped objects

winter yew
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I'm just surprised it took this long for somthing to happen
Palworld is a bigger rip off then immortals Fenix rising

obtuse reef
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I'm a bit surprised that it took so long to gather evidence, it was pretty apparent

quaint escarp
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it took long bc palworld also had lawyers take a look during development so they had to take longer to build a case

obtuse reef
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If the patented thing is the goddamn catching critters in balls, that's stupid

quaint escarp
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patents for game mechanics is stupid

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like i get it its ur ip but like stuff like nemesis system or even the minigame during loading screen thing is such a basic thing to keep others from using

obtuse reef
quaint escarp
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Monster the energy company has gone after video game titles

obtuse reef
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some rat bastards tried to copyright the term "reaction content (something like that)". Naturally, they got mocked by the entire internet

quaint escarp
coarse swift
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yet another company Monster is attempting to sue for the use of the word Monster

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they can fuck right off

quaint escarp
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this is old

coarse swift
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they did this with Pokemon and Monster Hunter as well

coarse swift
coarse swift
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buncha arbitrary shit such as sleeping and resetting the day with active nearby Pals

quaint escarp
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theres a patent for storing creatures in a box

obtuse reef
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some of those patents are fucking disgusting. some of that stuff is extremely basic

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I can understand the hardware stuff, but all of the game mechanics?

coarse swift
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cant be creature capture

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Dragon Quest and Shin Megami Tensei did that first from what I can tell, and the patent would only have lasted around 20 years

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it'd be something real stupid

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Patents are shit

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It helps protect irl products and inventions, but you shouldnt be able to patent a gamemode

quaint escarp
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how do you even go about making new games

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if stupid stuff is patented

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do u have to go thru every game patent

coarse swift
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probably why legal teams exist

quaint escarp
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can i save at a bonfire or does fromsoftware own that

coarse swift
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I wonder if No More Heroes patented saving the game by taking a shit

obtuse reef
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I am not a copyright lawyer, but I have enough braincells to comprehend the issues with copyrighting a mechanic

austere lance
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Monolith patenting the Nemesis system from Shadow of Mordor still pisses me off

quaint escarp
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yes its like claiming a patent on an exercise routine

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its stupid

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imagine if someone patented respawning

coarse swift
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Respawn would be toast

prime pivot
quaint escarp
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it might be dumber than ball catching

obtuse reef
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That's gross. Nintendo is gross

quaint escarp
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pocketpair would have a better case in the us

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but sadly both companies are japanese

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and knowing how big nintendo is there

coarse swift
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this reminds me of what, Wizard of Oz? Didnt the lead get put into a contract where she couldn't do literally anything else?

charred badge
quaint escarp
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was bandai namco i checked

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its expired now tho

charred badge
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Ah

quaint escarp
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but games dont take long to load anymore

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so no one uses that feature

charred badge
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I mean, the open world busywork games have really brought back the loading screen on a major way

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Speaking of which, HZD is on a good sale right now. Hmm

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Jedi survivor isn't doing it for me for scifi open world

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Mainly due to the Ubisoft checkin every startup

quaint escarp
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they arent that long tho

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and now games are requiring ssds

winter yew
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Requiring ssds is cooked imo
But I'd guess unpopular opinion

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Ssds are better and faster yeah, but requiring em come on

reef mountain
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lol

winter yew
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It's the equivalent of New 3ds exclusive games but on your computer lol

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obtuse reef
dry copper
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PREPARE TO CRY

dry copper
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When you got it together but you don't got it together

obtuse reef
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When you’re a mean word away from a mental break and you’re not good at hiding it

dry copper
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I don't know. If my daughter threw my cat away because I couldn't take care if it in her opinion, I'd throw away my daughter.

obtuse reef
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Throw away the daughter? Man, I’d make sure that the police would never find the body

dry copper
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That's why you keep a supply of hydrochloric acid and peroxide

obtuse reef
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If someone even touched my pets in a negative way I’d beat them so hard that their knees will twinge when it gets cloudy

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If someone seriously hurt, killed, or even just stole my pets, I would make sure they’d be eating through a straw for the rest of their lives

dry copper
inland oasis
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Well, SM2, first mission, on ruthless difficulty… we did it… but holy fuck.. 😂 that was wild

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I hate not starting with any stims

austere lance
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I still haven't done Ruthless, furthest I've done is Substantial

inland oasis
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It’s a massive jump every difficulty

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I feel like I got mostly carried too but I didn’t die so 😂

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Had a bulwark and heavy person with me I was sniper

dry copper
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I just realized something

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oh. nm I misinterpreted a language

inland oasis
dry copper
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I was listening to Captain America fighting some dude...he said what I thought was french. It was Russian

dry copper
inland oasis
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A very very pissed off angry heretic hating iron man 💀

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Lore of those suits are it’s encased a mortally wounded space marine, indefinitely to serve till the end of time or its demise. “Even in death do I serve the emperor!” They full of so much pent up rage, as when they hibernate all they do is dream of purging heresy 😂

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That dude was literally on vacation during all this

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I’m pretty sure tbh that dreadnought is ACTUALLY the main character 💀

austere lance
tranquil glen
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We gotta cook Jesse!

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starfield system

upper glade
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I give Star Wars: The Old Republic a fair amount of shit, and a lot of it's deserved. But this is a cutscene from eight years ago.

They do an amazing action scene that holds up well over time.

pure zinc
coarse swift
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@quaint escarp

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that could probably be the one they're going after

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with how vague this is Nintendo probably wont win it

winter yew
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Nintendo has only lost once verse game genie and they still half ass won it

inland oasis
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So they’re saying from how i understand it: because you throw something and it catches them, being too similar to how it happens in pokemon”? that’s a reach

restive tusk
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it don't even mention catching on that paragraph.
Anything that "affects a field character".
Nintendo should be going after any game where you can throw stuff at mobs

inland oasis
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Well throwing is what the “input” would be I assume

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It’s worded in such legal jargon that it hardly makes sense anymore

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Like, the final part seems to mention when you throw the ball to have the creature appear is too similar to pokemon. But “summoning” isn’t a new game mechanic, and throwing a ball to do it being the defense

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The other thing I keep thinking about is people at Nintendo may realize it doesn’t really matter how many times there cases fail, if in the long run, they can keep putting pocketpair in court with case after case after case, regardless of if they win or not. It’s a waste of money but corporations bully like that to deny competition.

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And Nintendo clearly has deeper pockets ontop of that

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“Burn them dry in court”

winter yew
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I don't think it'll make it to court, they'll settle to keep the loss minimum

inland oasis
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Settlements are usually how things go. But, this is gonna leave Nintendo with a reputation of trying to “patent game mechanics” which is scary as a gamer. That stifles innovation when someone wants to own the way to do something

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Imagine COD patenting throwing grenades. And subsequently after, no games then can have throwable grenades in them due to the patent. this is the most laymen’s terms example lol

marble idol
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jazz jackrabbit 2

winter yew
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I see what your saying but all you gotta do is not do it exactly like pokemon does, look up world of final fantasy gameplay only difference is its cubes

inland oasis
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Which is why I can’t fully not blame pocketpair, it was made lazily. But, aside that there’s no real legal ground imo. And if so, then gaming is going downhill fast

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Chivalry, mordhau, and those first person medieval hack n slash games practically all feel identical but yet they ain’t at each others throats screaming for blood cuz it’s “similar”

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Nintendo hops and and would argue “well, they all swing swords so”

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All Nintendo gotta do is just drop it at the same time too 🤷🏻🤷🏻

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It’s Not gonna ruin them

winter yew
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They probably do has some kinda case past it's similar otherwise they wouldn't of waited a year too though

inland oasis
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Yea, there’s no good side to me. Pocketpair shouldn’t have been lazy and come up with more original ideas, but Nintendo using game mechanic patents as its defense just is a bad omen as well. I couldn’t care less if palworld faces repurcussions or loses, however, Nintendo winning opens a sketchy door for big corps to start claiming things as there own to where no games can do it

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The good side is this just not happening lol

shadow tartan
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Sugar Rush!

inland oasis
shadow tartan
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This pleases the Emperor

inland oasis
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Whole WHEAT for the emperor!

shadow tartan
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They're eading

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The bread

marble idol
shadow tartan
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And they've done so much with it since

inland oasis
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It’s a gross practice imo. I’m all for owning your property but imagine the dude who invented the wheel didn’t share his patent with the car manufacturers. We’d be using blocks for tires 💀

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Or when they invented running.

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All those walkers are just left in the dust

shadow tartan
inland oasis
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Yes

shadow tartan
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Thought so

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Overlord Meths

inland oasis
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Imagine if the emperor patented his geneseed

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We wouldn’t have primarchs

restive tusk
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It could have been a mod. i remember the "legally distinct pocket creatures" thing

winter yew
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I heard of the pokemon mod but I never seen it, the nintendo ninjas were too fast for me

inland oasis
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I know for a fact I’ve seen people stating “Nintendo already lost this before why try again”

Yet I can’t confirm nor deny, haven’t they already tried a copyright case and failed? ( for palworld) Now they’re trying a game mechanic patent tactic instead?

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This is partly why I genuinely believe they might lose

winter yew
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The only court case I know of nintendo losing is game genie and even then they got what they wanted for awhile

restive tusk
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Yea it was already hinted at all the way back on release.
They just only now actually filed something

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We have received many inquiries regarding another company’s game released in January 2024. We have not granted any permission for the use of Pokémon intellectual property or assets in that game. We intend to investigate and take appropriate measures to address any acts that infringe on intellectual property rights related to the Pokémon. We will continue to cherish and nurture each and every Pokémon and its world, and work to bring the world together through Pokémon in the future.

The Pokémon Company```  translated
<https://corporate.pokemon.co.jp/media/news/detail/335.html>
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The funny part is, they're just putting Palworld back on the radar again, it was slowly starting to be forgotten 😂

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Gj Nintendo

inner copper
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I mean that image above in the thumbnail does look a bit like Wooloo

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But…

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It also looks a lot like a cartoon sheep so

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🤷🏻‍♂️

restive tusk
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well let's not kid ourselves, the devs knew very well where they were getting inspiration from 😆
but like don't we have a million other less known things similar to pokemon?

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Or even like the digimon stuff

inner copper
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Of course

inland oasis
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But is “looks alike” legally covered by fair use in terms of IP when in my opinion they are changed, but to me personally NOT ENOUGH

inner copper
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Courts end up determining just how “similar” something is generally

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It’s a bit subjective

inland oasis
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It’s like you gave someone homework to copy off of but he intentionally changed a few to make it look not copied

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It’s the most minimal creativity

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Enough to be “legal” by chance

inner copper
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You let people copy your homework… shame on you, Jenks. Shame. On. You.

Detention for a week and straight to the principal’s office with you.

inland oasis
inner copper
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Detention for a month!!!

abstract turret
inland oasis
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Little late 💀

inland oasis
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Or precisely on time depends how ya look at it

abstract turret
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That's the official post in English (not translated)

inland oasis
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Hearing words like “wish to seek an injunction” sounds so smart and lawyery lol.

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Doesn’t even sound real

restive tusk
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makes it sound like wishful plans

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"Babe i wish to seek getting my shit together, i swear"

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"oh so you gonna get your shit together now"
"no i just wish to seek doing it"

inland oasis
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The thing about a settlement is, from pocketpairs perspective, how can you offer for me to SETTLE with you when YOU ruffled all the feathers. YOURE unsettled, meanwhile palworlds just doing its thing and is now forced into a “deal with us or settle” type of situation

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Nintendos so mad palworld actually has a following, and not even one that harms Nintendo, but its existence is a scourge they must burn to them

restive tusk
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it's like that thing of patent farming.
There's a whole industry around it, just making outlandish claims on patents since most smaller companies will just settle to avoid long costly proceeedings

inland oasis
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Court bullying

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The system of someone having higher pockets being able to drag things out as long as they want cuz someone doesn’t have the money to fight back is something that needs fixed

restive tusk
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I remember John Oliver's long piece on the whole copyright / patent fishing thing 😆

inland oasis
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Funds shouldn’t be used until the case is over but of course that can’t work, people need paid to do there jobs

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I just think money shouldn’t be used as ammunition in court. Only cold hard facts and research and info/proof

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But of course to procure all that, takes said funds

abstract turret
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Bet Pokémon will still learn nothing & continue to release sub standard buggy games....

mental rose
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Or wait... wrong topic... I think

mental rose
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Otherwise this game would also be on their chopping block. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1218210/Coromon/

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inland oasis
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and the more that door is cracked open, the more these corps will try and stick there foot in

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im pretty sure capcom? (correct me if im wrong) had patented loading screen minigames. which is why you never saw it until i believe recently that patent may of expired...? again idk 100% only that that is a less aggressive form of it.

mental rose
inland oasis
orchid fox
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Wrong chat

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Do we have a separrate media channel now?

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Lol

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Noticed the "&media" is gone

silver sparrow
obtuse reef
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Nintendo is a shitty company

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They can help themselves

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I was simply making a joke about my username

reef mountain
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Japanese laws are different and Nintendo may not win in a US or European court

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If Palworld was developed by an American studio, I don't think Nintendo would go after them. Nintendo is taking advantage of Japan's stricter patent and copyright laws

mental rose
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I see

obtuse reef
inland oasis
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Nintendo did it too, only pocketpair took it a step further and let AI do it for them. Lmao

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Only, that’s not what this case is about this time

austere lance
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Pocket Pair never used AI

inland oasis
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tbh idek whats confirmed or not anymore these days. to no ones fault. i keep seeing both sides about the whole thing lmao

austere lance
quaint escarp
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if u dont know dont throw around baseless accusations then?

coarse swift
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Mumbles said the same thing until I brought up an article that all the AI accusations were made up shit

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People will believe everything they hear nowadays

quiet hamlet
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starbound and starfield - discuss

coarse swift
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What's there to discuss

quiet hamlet
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do you like them?

quaint escarp
coarse swift
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They're equally both untapped potential

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But Starbound is dead in a ditch and fuck Chucklefish

quaint escarp
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game wouldve been listed with ai assets

quiet hamlet
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yeah starbound could have been good if they kept updating

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didnt chucklefish make stardew?

coarse swift
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No

quiet hamlet
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also i think i remember controversy with starbound devs?

coarse swift
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ConcernedApe made Stardew and separated from Chucklefish

quiet hamlet
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ahh i see, chucklefish was the publisher then?

coarse swift
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At one point I think

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Not anymore

quaint escarp
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ps5 pro 30th anniversary edition looks nice

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that retro gray is cool

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reef mountain
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Lol

coarse swift
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Nice, can't wait to not buy it

quaint escarp
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dont worry even if u wanted to get one the scalpers wouldnt let u

coarse swift
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Even if I had the money, scalpers would be right on top of it

balmy plaza
coarse swift
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Can't wait for some legislation to happen that deals with scalpers

quaint escarp
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there wont

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how long has ticketmaster been allowed to be around

coarse swift
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Difference between an established resale business versus consumers reselling for massive profit

quaint escarp
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until some company throws money at a politician to complain about scalpers it wont be an issue

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at the end of the day the company that has their items scalped still make the money

tame cairn
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it happens with everything

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shoes, clothing

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tech

coarse swift
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Here's a tactic: encourage scalpers to sell even higher
Once it becomes apparent that they're making more money than the original seller, someone's gonna get jealous

quaint escarp
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nvidia didnt care

coarse swift
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That's nvidia

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Then you can make legislation that's about as vague as a Nintendo patent

obtuse reef
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Yes, we need more vague, impossible to accurately interpret legislation

reef mountain
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: this lawsuit would fail in the US. Nintendo is taking advantage of Japan's stricter licensing rules

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And Palworld has a Japanese studio behind it

silver sparrow
coarse swift
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And they think they're completely in the right

shadow tartan
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Has anyone played Astro Bot?

austere lance
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Only 12,300 made each individually numbered on one of the blades.... scalpers going to love that especially ones with specific build number

shadow tartan
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I'm kinda on it

balmy plaza
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I need to apologise in advance to the pc lol

shadow tartan
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Might have to cop myself a GreyStation

sleek cloud
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good luck getting one

shadow tartan
austere lance
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Much scalping is gonna happen

shadow tartan
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Yeah ofc

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Always gonna happen

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People want to make a quick buck

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It's only a few hundred, drop in the ocean when you think about it

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Not like I don't already have the things to play on

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I just want the grey one 🤣

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Same as the Million and Anniversary edition PS4
It's for enthusiasts

shadow tartan
winter yew
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Response is in

shadow tartan
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I remember when people scalped the 360 Core and Premium pack, if I adjust that for inflation it was far more expensive

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800 for Core and 1200 for Premium back in 2007

abstract turret
inland oasis
abstract turret
inland oasis
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Few doesn’t stop at a numerical value

abstract turret
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In some countries ps5 is 4 figures 😲

inland oasis
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You can have a few thousand of something

abstract turret
shadow tartan
inland oasis
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That’s like saying a couple of things, is always and Only ever 2

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A couple of things could still be as many as I like it to be

shadow tartan
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Same as 360, people make a few hundred quid

shadow tartan
abstract turret
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Because 360 is inbetween 2-5 hundred

shadow tartan
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People were selling it for 1200, I know this because I worked for the company that was selling them at the time

shadow tartan
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And that's far more extortionate

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When I bought my SNES it was kinda reasonable

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Games were expensive though

abstract turret
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Agreed just thought it's not in the just a few hundred bracket

shadow tartan
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60 quid back in the 90s was a lot of money

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The difference

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They're still buying it

inland oasis
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A few bucks

shadow tartan
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They make a few hundred

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And that difference starts to drop

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Same as PS5

abstract turret
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My mistake I thought you meant buying the whole thing not the profit

shadow tartan
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They just have to be able to shift units quickly enough

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That's the hustle

abstract turret
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Yes

shadow tartan
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When PS5 came out I know of someone that had quite a few

abstract turret
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And that old saying "a fool and his money is easily parted" 😆

shadow tartan
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Considered it and then waited

shadow tartan
abstract turret
#

Still fools in a lot of folks eyes

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Just invest it in a pc

shadow tartan
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Yeah but I see a lot of that and only call it out now and again

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Ok convo done

abstract turret
winter yew
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I'd buy a console over a pc 300 bucks every game will play, games will be dirt cheap after a few months so just wait
Until now when consoles cost so much just get a pc lol

austere lance
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One console costs that much, lol. And it's not necessary at all

abstract turret
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Another that looks interesting
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shadow tartan
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This is all down to earning and it becomes an unfair argument

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It's like owning Vs renting too

abstract turret
austere lance
winter yew
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I won't support buying anything that sont have physical games lol

I was just saying buying consoles use to make sense

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Don't *

abstract turret
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I read the last quarter Sony game sales were 80% digital

austere lance
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It still does make sense, lol. The Pro isn't the only console in existence

abstract turret
coarse swift
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It's still all just licenses tho

winter yew
abstract turret
stuck geyser
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Anyone able to answer a Subnautica question? 🙂

shadow tartan
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Ok I'm gonna say it
If you earn enough money it doesn't matter.
If you have a shit job/don't get paid a lot then obviously it's just out of your range.
When you earn enough money and gaming is your hobby then you have all platforms.
Some people spend way more money on things that subjectively don't hold as much value.

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Should we start talking about the reality?

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How many of you own a home?

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Unfair right

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Not cool

abstract turret
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Folks argument is more about the shop price of the pro vs standard vs performance vs value

shadow tartan
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I can work for 3 days and afford a PS5 Pro it doesn't mean shit

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For some people that isn't a reality and so it's unfair

abstract turret
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I don't have to work but that's not what folks are on about.

shadow tartan
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Does anyone here buy expensive whiskey apart from @inner copper and @idle saffron

shadow tartan
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I don't need to work so I'm gonna tell others where to spend their money

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If I decided to I wouldn't need to either

abstract turret
shadow tartan
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I could sell a property

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And live off it

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Till I die

shadow tartan
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But others need to work so they can't see it from your perspective

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There are people in their 20s here

abstract turret
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I am not sure what all this has to do with what value does the pro have over the standard model vs price though

shadow tartan
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And you're from a different generation where you had more opportunities to save

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Same as I am

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Same as Gleam

balmy plaza
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Honestly, what I see with the ps5 pro is that they're trying to undermine one of the key selling points of a console. People like them because they can get one and know that they don't have to pay out the ass for marginal increases in performance

shadow tartan
#

Saying just invest in a PC isn't a solution either

balmy plaza
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Tbh I can't see myself recommending gaming as a hobby to anyone that's not into it, at least rn

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I can't imagine how getting into it must be nowadays

shadow tartan
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Get a job and save

abstract turret
shadow tartan
#

Same as we had to in our youth

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It was the same

shadow tartan
#

And I have a Switch for guess what, Nintendo games

abstract turret
#

Tbh I found a switch at times more enjoyable than a console

shadow tartan
#

Switch is a console

abstract turret
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Handheld hybrid

shadow tartan
#

It's a console

abstract turret
#

It's literally mobile tablet technology

shadow tartan
#

When you handle releases on it, it's the same as a console

#

Everyone knows that

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It's a console

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Doesn't matter if it gets docked or not

balmy plaza
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Switch is 100% a console

inland oasis
#

What would you consider steam deck?

abstract turret
#

A console pc 😆

balmy plaza
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Probably a console tbh

inland oasis
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Mobile pc, but not a laptop

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😂💀

abstract turret
#

Waiting on Switch 2

shadow tartan
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The only one that blurs the line is ROG Ally

inland oasis
#

No idea, I was genuinely curious which bracket it fell under

shadow tartan
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And Ayaneos

balmy plaza
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PS3 had Linux support for a while, and you could do all sorts of pc ish stuff with it. US govt strung them together to make a supercomputer

shadow tartan
#

That's outside of the use case

inland oasis
#

I thought the ROG ally basically was just a wanna be steam deck tho

balmy plaza
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So if a PS3 was a console I'd probably lump steam deck with that too

winter yew
shadow tartan
abstract turret
#

Microsoft need to release a handheld 'xbox' with gamepass that allows steam etc to be installed

quaint escarp
#

pc

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its a linux

shadow tartan
#

Ah

quaint escarp
#

its open

shadow tartan
#

I only had mine for a week, you know more

quaint escarp
#

theres just a gaming mode

shadow tartan
#

Cool

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Switch is a console though

winter yew
#

Deck used pirating or somtning in a trailer for steam deck I remember nintendo got after em

inland oasis
#

Shocking lol

abstract turret
#

I think switch is listed as a hybrid console 👍 it's in nomans land

quaint escarp
#

they had an emulator on a trailer

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emulation itself is not illegal

abstract turret
#

Tell Nintendo

shadow tartan
#

Well, we consider it a console, just from my experience releasing games on it

winter yew
#

Emulator not illegal itself but we all know what 99% of people using a emulator are doing

shadow tartan
#

Same as WiiU

abstract turret
#

Wii U was a marketing disaster

shadow tartan
#

You can argue with industry standards and common knowledge though Mike

abstract turret
#

I think that's why the next switch will be switch 2

shadow tartan
#

WiiU sucked because only a handful of people developed correctly for it

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Had good features if utilised

abstract turret
#

Badly promoted though

shadow tartan
#

Meh

quaint escarp
#

it was before its time

#

but also bulky

abstract turret
#

Joe public didn't understand it

shadow tartan
#

They had enough money from Wii and DS

quaint escarp
#

wiiu was a bad gimmick

shadow tartan
#

Besides the point, Switch is a console, it uses cartridges, you have the same submission criteria as consoles

abstract turret
#

Wii was good

winter yew
#

The fact all wii u games ended up in switch bestsellers like 5 or so still are makes me think wii u was fine lol

shadow tartan
inland oasis
#

GameCube was peak

abstract turret
#

Surprised they never put windwaker hd on switch

shadow tartan
#

SNES

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SNES and GBA

quaint escarp
#

i wonder if the handheld resurgence will make sony revisit the vita or psp

abstract turret
#

Snes was amazing time

inland oasis
#

N64

shadow tartan
#

Mario World is objectively the best game ever made

abstract turret
#

Link to the past imo

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Didn't the wii u give us breath of the wild?

quaint escarp
#

gamecube was peak nintendo

abstract turret
#

Nintendo had many peaks

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Wii U was only bad one for sales

shadow tartan
#

Telling people to buy a PC is asking them to accept lower standards and bad optimisation sometimes.
Having a PC has it's own issues too, not even seeing them is either being in denial or being detached.

winter yew
#

Can't do this on PC

shadow tartan
#

I carried a bunch of PC nerds yesterday eh @unborn trellis

charred badge
shadow tartan
abstract turret
#

Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 very good

shadow tartan
#

Point is console Vs PC argument is fucking stupid

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Even if I was a PC gamer before half these people were born

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It's just a platform

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You buy your games and play them

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Or you wait for exclusive contracts to expire

inland oasis
#

Besides we all know the pinnacle master race is mobile games

abstract turret
#

You can run switch games on pc pretty good I here

shadow tartan
#

And then buy them on another platform

barren sparrow
#

All machines and their spirits are blessed by the Pmnissiah 🙏

shadow tartan
abstract turret
#

Of course

shadow tartan
#

I have to have that stance considering

inland oasis
#

Emulating*

abstract turret
#

Unless you own that game yourself

shadow tartan
#

If you own the originals

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Majority of time is not the case

#

But it's fair to let people see history and learn from it

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I'd rather people got to play the games I did when I was young than not see them at all

abstract turret
#

I spent a fortune on switch games over the years for my Son that's why I got him a series x to share gamepass

winter yew
#

I'm sure Nintendo would love to consider all emulating stealing but it's what most emulating is anyway lol

shadow tartan
#

I gave my nephew the XBOX because he's obsessed with football

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Now I need to replace my XBOX

#

He's keeping it

abstract turret
#

Some football games are spoilt by the gatcha spending

shadow tartan
#

They can piss and moan about the emulators all they want

abstract turret
#

Fifa is a scam

shadow tartan
#

We've used R4 carts in development for official Nintendo games

shadow tartan
#

When he was little he called my Uncle Batman

abstract turret
#

Is that what modern vintage gamer used for development on switch?

shadow tartan
#

Little shit

winter yew
#

Outside of highly specific cases like game devs I know what most people are doing though

Emulating being distanced from piracy has always been silly to me

shadow tartan
#

Official Licensed Nintendo game

abstract turret
#

I prefer a lot of indie games vs AAA

shadow tartan
shadow tartan
#

I like meat, I have vegan friends

#

We don't argue about that in our 40s

#

I still make vegetable curry or dishes for them and eat it too

abstract turret
#

Is Hello Games still classed as indie?

winter yew
shadow tartan
#

They have no publisher iirc, they just had a deal with Sony at release but I may be wrong

winter yew
#

Indie devs make a sequel challenge
Failed often

abstract turret
#

I wonder how much they get from Microsoft as it's still on gamepass

shadow tartan
#

Plenty studios have a deal for release, brings in some needed bank sometimes

#

People consider some companies evil but fail to see the support they give to developers

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Nintendo included

winter yew
#

Gamepass deals are often a one time buyout I've heard

abstract turret
#

Why do some folks say gamepass isn't good for developers?

winter yew
shadow tartan
#

Nintendo has been good for Indies too

winter yew
#

Yeah Microsoft famous for shutting shit down

winter yew
green pebble
shadow tartan
abstract turret
#

I heard everyone left Anna Purna recently over some rich owner

green pebble
#

All good lol

winter yew
#

Imo I don't think gamepass is good long term for the same reason Disney plus and Netflix have constant issues getting new subscribers

shadow tartan
#

Fixed it

shadow tartan
coarse swift
shadow tartan
#

@coarse swift get in my DMs

coarse swift
#

Negative

shadow tartan
#

All the other news about Annapurna since then has been how the games won't be affected badly because the people that left weren't actually handling them, just proves how replaceable they are

abstract turret
#

Will you be developing for switch 2?

shadow tartan
#

Depends on next contract

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Can't say if I do either

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Plus I won't be on Discord when they start

abstract turret
#

Nintendo ninjas

shadow tartan
#

2025 will probably go dark if that's the case

winter yew
#

If you are developing for switch post a fish wearing a cowboy hat one day

coarse swift
#

I'll take a couple free Switch 2's Nate, thanks in advance

shadow tartan
#

All I'd ever post is marketing stuff

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Politics

abstract turret
#

I am guessing they announce switch 2 next March just before fiscal year end and share holders meeting

winter yew
#

I'm sure switch 2 will be a success it's Nintendo

abstract turret
#

Hope so

shadow tartan
#

When you're under NDA you get told what is ok to post to avoid a load of shit

winter yew
#

My wife's been under NDA a few times we have a system where she leaves what she's working on on the top shelf where she don't normally keep games lol

shadow tartan
#

Reviews aren't development

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Sorry mate, just sayin

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That's after things are done

winter yew
#

The blood fued is real but NDA is NDA lol

shadow tartan
#

Not the same NDA

abstract turret
#

What about game testing

shadow tartan
#

Internal QA, outsource or community testing?

abstract turret
#

Not sure sorry your the expert

#

Just interesting

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I haven't a clue myself

shadow tartan
#

Internal had the same as Devs
Outsource has stricter ones usually
Community ones are basic af because it's already announced before hand

#

Depends on what the game is and who is in charge

green pebble
#

testing is done at different stages usually, like there is iterative testing to test specific systems as they are designed and developed, QA testing towards the end of a project, focus testing on how well it will be recieved. and others i'm probably forgettting

abstract turret
#

I cannot imagine what it's like when you release a game and it fails badly though like concord

shadow tartan
#

NDA wise though
Internal/embedded are considered Dev team because they're seeing a lot more and unreleased stuff too

#

Builds that go externally are curated usually

winter yew
green pebble
#

Concord was missmanaged top down at every level, even the core designers of it didn't understand good design and why things are designed the way they are in other games. it was a monkey see monkey do design without understanding

shadow tartan
#

And review copies are closer to release candidate

coarse swift
#

Never forget the professor

winter yew
#

And devs and reviewers have a decades old blood fued lol

shadow tartan
#

So you're playing something to review it not to give bugs and feedback because at that point it's usually too late, it's passed submission, might end up in patches but that's part of backlog

abstract turret
#

Amazes me when folk make games like stardew valley even if it took years of stress

shadow tartan
#

It's just that you don't understand how release management works

#

You're consumers

restive tusk
#

feud* ?

#

fuel?

shadow tartan
#

Feijoada

restive tusk
#

yums

#

i aint even here, just popped in to disrupt

shadow tartan
#

But consumers aren't expected to understand that

restive tusk
#

gib benas

shadow tartan
green pebble
#

casually sweeps work on google wallet and apple passbook under the rug Yep, I know nothing of production!

shadow tartan
#

Not you

#

Lamb

#

I'm talking specifically about games

#

Not apps

winter yew
#

🦙

restive tusk
#

i thought it was about beans

coarse swift
#

Nate I'm gonna infect your dms with the worst thing you've seen today, you're welcome in advance

winter yew
#

If it helps I'm not the reviewer just married to one lol

green pebble
#

not any more

shadow tartan
green pebble
#

I live a simpler life

abstract turret
#

Did you see the nms app

green pebble
#

nope and I probably have no reason to ever see it

abstract turret
#

Ah ok

shadow tartan
#

I love Google Wallet btw @green pebble

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All my reward cards go in there

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Bank cards

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It's amazing

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You made my life easier

inner copper
shadow tartan
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So yes

green pebble
inner copper
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Ah fair though, without testing it would be annoying and have more bugs, I started in QA

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Lot of respect for testing

idle saffron
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You test me all the time

shadow tartan
idle saffron
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Same as usual

coarse swift
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Fail the test probably

idle saffron
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Laugh

shadow tartan
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I'll be gone next year anyway, most likely

inner copper
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Mark you down on the QA score

green pebble
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though I did prototype a merchant portal for Apple Passbook so merchants could manage the passes and stuff related to their business

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that was fun

idle saffron
shadow tartan
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I always go dark when I'm doing that shit

coarse swift
shadow tartan
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Drinking and smoking time

inner copper
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You’re dark all the time

abstract turret
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Hope it all goes well

shadow tartan
green pebble
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Then you walk into work one day and you badge doesn't work and security is escorting you to your desk to gather your things

shadow tartan
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It's worth the time and effort to make sure people have a good game

abstract turret
inner copper
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Imagine having a permanent NDA

shadow tartan
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And my track record shows that, I'm a mouthy fucker at work too

shadow tartan
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But also doesn't suck

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Shut up

shadow tartan
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I'm Bungle and you know it

inner copper
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You’re Geoffrey mate.

shadow tartan
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Oi

inner copper
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Haha

shadow tartan
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Knob

green pebble
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I'm happy to just be a casual for-fun code monkey now

abstract turret
coarse swift
green pebble
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lol

inner copper
shadow tartan
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But it always calls you back

inner copper
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@idle saffron, is it true?

idle saffron
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Yes

green pebble
# shadow tartan But it always calls you back

though I did recently run into someone from an indie online game community I was a part of, they are now making this sweet 2D pixel art souls-like MMO and it looks amazing he invited me to check out the dev team

inner copper
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Interesting

shadow tartan
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Opportunity doesn't always come along

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Plus if you get to help improve things or make changes you're helping a lot of people

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I just want to know why indie devs often abandon what made the first game unique and make a more casual style sequel

Batman voice WHHHYYT

shadow tartan
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Maybe the scope of the first one gave them hell

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All dependant, you have to ask them

inner copper
shadow tartan
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Sometimes you lose a person and you can't do the same stuff anymore

inner copper
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I’m still here dude

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I’m not lost

shadow tartan
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Never lose you

winter yew
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My go to example is the darkest dungeon series
Such a drastic departure

inner copper
shadow tartan
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Part of the reason why it's tough and you need to retain your core team

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I've said that before

inner copper
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Tis familiar

shadow tartan
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It's noticeable when you lose people

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@inner copper bruv someone brought up MFG last night

inner copper
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Ohhh really? In here?

shadow tartan
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No

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Elsewhere on VC

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Was answering some stuff for a student that wants work after their course finishes

inner copper
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I see, well, could be a decent place to get some experience if there’s nothing else

coarse swift
inner copper
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I can’t recall if THQ ever opened shop here actually, it was meant to have been in the last couple years if they did

inner copper
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Ashborne

shadow tartan
inner copper
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Seems they did do it then in the end

coarse swift
inner copper
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Alternative to MFG

shadow tartan
coarse swift
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Do people from Czech write checks

inner copper
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But the same applies

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Babyborne

inner copper
inner copper
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@inner copper they mentioned Grey Zone because there was a studio tour video and they said it looked like someone's apartment 🤣

inner copper
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Lmfao

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To be fair it wouldn’t surprise me if it was haha