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shadow tartan
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Rwanda! @thorn dawn we're staying

quaint escarp
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basically countries no one cares about /s

shadow tartan
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Oh damn

thorn dawn
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Have they tried being rich instead?

shadow tartan
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I'm cackling

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Stop

idle saffron
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I see Georgia is listed, poor Joe Rogan

shadow tartan
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My boy Luka made a PS account there

thorn dawn
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Bit of a piss take though tbh, they should refund everyone if they put in things like mandatory account linking post launch

fleet moat
idle saffron
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No clue

quaint escarp
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u can with vpn

shadow tartan
idle saffron
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Ew, what does that say on the gas

mental rose
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Surprised Monaco is on that list... isn't that a rich and developed country? 🤨

idle saffron
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Hate that gif now

fleet moat
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wait wait, lmao there's a country named Chad??? PI_SataniaLaugh2 I need to move there

mental rose
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They have an F1 track

thorn dawn
shadow tartan
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People won't get banned for VPN either, plus the misinformation is wild

idle saffron
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Lol

shadow tartan
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I never used a VPN and used my UK account in other countries

idle saffron
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They think Sony gets access to your Steam account, as in all details

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Lmao

shadow tartan
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To create an account maybe

idle saffron
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Name/email - that's what they'll get

shadow tartan
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But I had to create a US and Japan account anyway

thorn dawn
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Not the end of the world

shadow tartan
idle saffron
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Which all these crazies give every other website no problem

shadow tartan
shadow tartan
thorn dawn
shadow tartan
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Need to beware

idle saffron
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Wild overreaction, I'd act surprised - but I have been on the internet before

fleet moat
# shadow tartan People won't get banned for VPN either, plus the misinformation is wild

well, i'm not sure if the company Sony is actually encouraging players who aren't in the countries listed here: https://id.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/id/create_account_ca/#/create_account/wizard/account_info_page2?entry=create_account to go out of their way to not only use Vpn, but straight up lie by selecting a country in that drop-down where they do not reside. Especially when that page says:

Your home location is used to verify your identity when you contact us. Other players won't be able to see it.

My assumption is that Sony will have to address this issue either by refunding those players or by creating a different form that will support the countries not listed there.

idle saffron
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Those are literally the only people with a gripe - and they aren't the ones freaking out

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It's PC players that could but don't want to have to

fleet moat
rotund cosmos
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If they aren't from those countries... I don't really see an issue when the loading screen is a Sony screen

idle saffron
fleet moat
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I think adding fuel to the fire isn't worth most people's time. The fire will die out on its own.

idle saffron
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Freaking out on Discord is meaningless

quaint escarp
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steam will refund those ppl

weak tiger
fleet moat
idle saffron
idle saffron
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Lol

shadow tartan
shadow tartan
shadow tartan
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You fuckin joined in

idle saffron
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Oh, I'm not lovely

shadow tartan
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Damn right you ain't

coarse swift
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No but I am

idle saffron
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Yeah

shadow tartan
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Good Guy Ceryncross

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Gave his last kidney to an orphan

coarse swift
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I'm the orphan

shadow tartan
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Nice workaround

coarse swift
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Got my own kidney for free

rotund cosmos
idle saffron
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They have already been doing refunds

rotund cosmos
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Oh that's a nice change of pace

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Ok, disaster averted

shadow tartan
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Overnight success, don't forget the dev motto.
I don't think they care a great deal about refunds in the grand scheme.

idle saffron
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This is a perfect opportunity to demonstrate the actual power of the consumer. Majority demands money back, Sony backpedals

rotund cosmos
idle saffron
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I doubt the gamers will band together enough for that though

shadow tartan
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People are blaming Sony for bad or delayed Dev implementation

idle saffron
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They have devolved to insulting each other and Sony

rotund cosmos
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Ain't no way gamers will be that cohesive

shadow tartan
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I would be having coffee reading the emails

idle saffron
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And the mods, like they had anything to do with it

weak tiger
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Yikessss

shadow tartan
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@idle saffron you joined in hahahahahaha

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We danced in the fire together

rotund cosmos
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Gamers are like Chihuahuas to corporates

weak tiger
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Gleam why doesn’t animal crossing have pvp with Force abilities implement that please

weak tiger
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Word

shadow tartan
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Nobody is actually pointing the blame at the people who didn't implement it properly even after their community manager typed it out for a bunch of morons.

rotund cosmos
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Regardless of when it should be

mental rose
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"Vote with your wallets"
I've heard it so many times in the past month. It's basically my mantra at this point

thorny python
shadow tartan
weak tiger
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Just voted for salt and vinegar kettle chips 🙏

idle saffron
shadow tartan
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Mmmm

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I voted for Chinese as it's a celebration

shadow tartan
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I linked it for the angry people there just to wind them up more

rotund cosmos
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Ok, thanks

shadow tartan
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Because it was the right thing to do 🤣

idle saffron
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I linked how to make a PS account

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Lmao

rotund cosmos
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Y'all brave for even going into general chat

shadow tartan
weak tiger
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Spicy

shadow tartan
weak tiger
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I’ll wait a year to test the community’s waters

shadow tartan
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@rotund cosmos Muzz check the link I posted

rotund cosmos
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I am

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Ya boi clicks fast

shadow tartan
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I feel like I'm eating brains out of skulls

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So tasty

weak tiger
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First thing I see is “I LOVE EXTORSION”

shadow tartan
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Ahahahaha right

weak tiger
rotund cosmos
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I mean... That's pretty decisive. If that's how it is, thats how it is. Its another dev stumble like the miscommunication fiasco

shadow tartan
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After they got a game for £40 and played it for hours whilst commenting on its value

rotund cosmos
shadow tartan
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Some of these people are too busy on TikTok or some other mind rotting shit

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And I'm fine with that

weak tiger
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Nate says no brainrot on company time

shadow tartan
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Only when I smoke a joint

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And even then I'm active

rotund cosmos
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Willing to say "I made a mistake"

Apparently that phrase died

shadow tartan
weak tiger
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I’ve learned so much from the mistakes I’ve made, might as well make a few more ohreally

shadow tartan
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But this is too good

rotund cosmos
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Corporates deserve it. But yeah, at least following the community manager's word, this really is on them

rotund cosmos
mental rose
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Gonna be really dark times ahead if I have to actually start reading through EULAs every time I want to buy a game...

rotund cosmos
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I skim through them now

shadow tartan
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People always imagine that it's corporate bodies behind all mistakes, negative effects on players etc
Even when they're told otherwise and shown things in black and white they will still say the same thing

mental rose
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I want to have fun, not sign on a mortgage!

weak tiger
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I’m not reading and if something happens I’ll just holler on discord at other players

shadow tartan
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I've been betting on this kind of stuff with @idle saffron

idle saffron
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Aye

rotund cosmos
rotund cosmos
weak tiger
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I mean, you see the state of that general chat bceStare2

rotund cosmos
shadow tartan
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You have to abide by laws and legislations, EULAs and TOS are all part of making sure you're covered.
Same when changes had to be made to a lot of them retroactively when GDPR was introduced.

rotund cosmos
shadow tartan
weak tiger
rotund cosmos
shadow tartan
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Nope, even for the average 34 or 44 year old

rotund cosmos
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You right the average person

shadow tartan
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And then the game comes and goes and nobody cares

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It hasn't affected them

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Data leaks are different

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Any data leak is shit

weak tiger
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Bioware can have my hypothetical firstborn anyway

coarse swift
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Oh thank fuck they're not doing that weird ass metal shading in season 3

rotund cosmos
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Data leaks are pretty common nowadays

shadow tartan
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But then that's like me crying about the ISP that accidentally leaked all user data

thorn dawn
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so whys off-topic over here today

rotund cosmos
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Still about Helldiver's

shadow tartan
weak tiger
shadow tartan
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I woke up from my nap and it's still the Great Chicago fire out here

thorn dawn
rotund cosmos
shadow tartan
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@thorn dawn 🫂

weak tiger
coarse swift
rotund cosmos
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Still Data Leaks are common enough to where most people should have steps in place to mitigate the damage

shadow tartan
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@idle saffron

rotund cosmos
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Besides, it just sucks for those who are region locked. Nobody else has a leg to stand on

shadow tartan
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I'm not a thirsty person

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But damn

rotund cosmos
thorny python
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more nutrients in tears than in sweat

coarse swift
rotund cosmos
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Too much salt for my tastes.

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Pretty sure there is more salt in those tears than in the dead sea

weak tiger
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Curious, why is the game region locked?

rotund cosmos
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Sony

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That's just a Sony thing

coarse swift
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PSN isn't available in many countries
If you can't make a PSN account, no Helldivers 2

shadow tartan
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You broke my leg Ceryn

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Flak is the least of my worries

coarse swift
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Nothing a stim cant heal

rotund cosmos
shadow tartan
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Stims rapidly

rotund cosmos
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Nobody would've cared if this was at launch

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Well cared much

coarse swift
shadow tartan
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I was talking about this a week or two ago and I even said it was dumb that you'd have to link PSN to play a PC game

thorn dawn
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If a company doesn't want to do business in your country, piracy/VPN/whatever is a legitimate strategy

weak tiger
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Ohh I see SCWEEE is it like, international laws that cause Sony to region lock? Idk how these things work and I never looked it up chonker

shadow tartan
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I thought originally it was just for cross platform trophy tracking

thorn dawn
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IMNSHO

coarse swift
mental rose
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Having to make a PSN account to play one PC game just sounds inefficient and a waste

shadow tartan
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Funnily enough, piracy is rife in those regions, who woulda known
@thorn dawn

rotund cosmos
shadow tartan
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Who
Woulda
Known

quaint escarp
rotund cosmos
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A few European ones would be like Monaco, North Macedonia

shadow tartan
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Nah it's easy to operate anywhere and set up an office but if you are in the same list as Rwanda, oh boy

rotund cosmos
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Don't know if Monaco is in the EU.

thorn dawn
shadow tartan
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Adam do we need a VPN when we move?

rotund cosmos
shadow tartan
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Need a change of scenery

quaint escarp
thorn dawn
quaint escarp
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theres no real profit to be made

shadow tartan
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Not enough rage here, let me go look over there

quaint escarp
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uae and sa are the only 2 in africa i know that has a gaming market

rotund cosmos
quaint escarp
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well middle east

rotund cosmos
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It shocked me Egypt is on the list

shadow tartan
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@idle saffron you .... Hahahahaha

rotund cosmos
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Yeah they can, I'm talking about the other African countries

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Pretty much... The rest of the continent

shadow tartan
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A lot of middle eastern places used to use the UK store which is why for a while prices were held higher than US/Asia

rotund cosmos
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Wild

shadow tartan
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Is what it is

rotund cosmos
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Anyone knows why Georgia, Moldova, and North Macedonia are on there?

shadow tartan
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My friends from Saudi played PS with me, s'all good

rotund cosmos
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Makes sense

shadow tartan
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Ask Joe Rogan if he's around, I have friends from Georgia and Moldova and they all complain about how corrupt and gangster filled it is

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Ex-KGB etc

rotund cosmos
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Honestly, most countries on that list are unstable/corruption ridden

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Or straight up have no market.

weak tiger
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I too am unstable and corruption ridden GekHappy

rotund cosmos
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I haven't heard of any gamers from Mongolia so

rotund cosmos
thorn dawn
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A lot of western countries have laws on the books that require them to not pay bribes etc. regardless of where the business activity takes place

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UK included

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UK sony senior management could be held liable if sony georgia started making facilitation payments

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for example

weak tiger
rotund cosmos
thorn dawn
rotund cosmos
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Honestly, that makes better sense. Even as to why Bulgaria can and her neighbors cant

thorn dawn
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Airbus got nailed for it recently

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Charged, convicted and fined for bribing people outside the UK

shadow tartan
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@idle saffron as you can see no matter where I go I find other tea drinkers to laugh with

quaint escarp
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on one hand i find it dumb, on the other i get why

rotund cosmos
shadow tartan
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@thorn dawn didn't a second Boeing whistleblower die recently?

shadow tartan
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Nice

rotund cosmos
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Rip

shadow tartan
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Covering shit up, old school

rotund cosmos
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They still think it's the prohibition era apparently

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Or taking a page out of the KGB

weak tiger
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Back in my day we dueled for our honor 😔

rotund cosmos
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Still had honor

weak tiger
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I lost it, might be under a couch cushion or in a drawer somewhere

rotund cosmos
rotund cosmos
thorn dawn
rotund cosmos
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Can't believe youre in a position where that can happen

quaint escarp
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bribing people is illegal if you are caught

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just dont get caught, easy

thorn dawn
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So I have the means

rotund cosmos
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They give the embezzlement PowerPoint too?

quaint escarp
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siphon some of the money into an offshore account who's gonna notice

mental rose
rotund cosmos
edgy viper
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quaint escarp
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and even then, its still legal if you're in a position of power or have means

rotund cosmos
rotund cosmos
quaint escarp
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did you shoot someone?
are you a cop?
tis fine then

edgy viper
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Thx sony

rotund cosmos
edgy viper
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For hating u bit more every year

rotund cosmos
mental rose
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No need to stir the pot any more. It just goes in circles at this point

rotund cosmos
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The pot must simmer now

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Like a fine stew

mental rose
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Oh my god... I accidentally made a pun 😄

rotund cosmos
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gooooood

shadow tartan
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Ahahahahahahaha

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@idle saffron my comment really will always age beautifully, like you

rotund cosmos
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Gleam is pretty???

shadow tartan
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Beautiful inside and out, pretty is too subjective

edgy viper
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I got few questions about helldivers 2. If i jump/buy now the game did i missed any content or events?

rotund cosmos
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Oh ok ok

idle saffron
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Lmao

rotund cosmos
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Every content update will be there

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And progressed on your own time

rotund cosmos
shadow tartan
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You already thanked Sony and posted a video, I thought you had the game

rotund cosmos
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I can't vouch for the others

shadow tartan
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🤣GekHappy

edgy viper
rotund cosmos
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Nah, just really really dedicated people

edgy viper
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Thx. Good to know there is not much fomo

shadow tartan
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400 hours so far for a £40 game
Good value

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If I paid for it

rotund cosmos
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^ Skull Admiral

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I'm still a lvl 26

shadow tartan
weak tiger
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I’m in mass effect’s grip again bcaThumbsUpYes

shadow tartan
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Hit max level a week ago or something

rotund cosmos
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I have more life preservation than lvl 30+ players sometimes

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And now I won't be ganked by chargers

shadow tartan
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@rotund cosmos you're good bruv, need to jump in with you again, just been really busy this week

rotund cosmos
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Same

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Also, your mates are hilarious

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Was in a party call with them.

edgy viper
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Im backing from buying ps5 as much as i can rn. Because of other prorities and because i dont support sony decisions in past years since ps5 release. So imo ps5 is true ps4 pro. But i dont want to miss out much on great games like HD2.

shadow tartan
rotund cosmos
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They were doing that to themselves. Something something caste system?

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As well as one dude who had an accuracy of 4%

shadow tartan
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Fuckin jokers

rotund cosmos
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Gotta jump with them again. And actually use my headset to communicate

winter yew
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Sophomore year is almost up, probably will be getting a PS5 if i do well

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So i’ll be in HD2 too

dreamy zinc
dry copper
idle saffron
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That was a secret?

winter yew
finite hazel
restive tusk
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See also Skywind

shadow tartan
modern panther
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This is for Helldivers 2

shadow tartan
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I want to see who is still playing the game and writing bad reviews. I want them to stream it.

broken prairie
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The bad reviews is for the PSN bullshit

modern panther
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Correct

earnest hatch
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the hate is deserved

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imo

solid lynx
solid lynx
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Sony is such an awful publisher I swear

worldly vector
earnest hatch
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I am not mad at arrowhead whatsoever

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but Sony

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"safety"

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PSN has had more leaks then I have fingers

shadow tartan
solid lynx
shadow tartan
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Nothing you just can't read

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Later

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The day @idle saffron and I got to laugh at the illiterate people in denial

shadow tartan
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Accuracy, if people find it rude then they need to learn to read details.
Like people admitting fault.

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One of the best days on Discord ever.

solid lynx
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Telling me I can’t read and I’m illiterate is rude when you could just say something like “You know the Steam page has said you have to link since launch, right?”

shadow tartan
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Generalising

solid lynx
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Besides, i’m less angry about the sudden enforcement and more angry that it’s a practice at all

shadow tartan
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Anyone that can't read where someone admits to something has to be

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Like me admitting to something but people deciding to blame someone else

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Literally posted it themselves

tame cairn
silver sparrow
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I have fallen in the Balatro hole

inland oasis
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@shadow tartan I’m kicking anyone who’s got a psn account from my helldiver team 💀😂

tranquil glen
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holy shit HD2 chat goin so quick, quicker than usual

inland oasis
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Essentially, shit hit the fan

tranquil glen
inland oasis
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See now I’m confused, I have a past, OLD psn account from ps3, but i don’t remember it. So I essentially have to make another psn account. And I rly don’t see the big deal. lol.

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I also own it on steam btw

tranquil glen
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its because apparently PSN gets "hacked alot" which isnt actually that often

inland oasis
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2014

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Wasn’t that the anonymous thing?

tranquil glen
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2023* suposedly

inland oasis
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That’s all I remember

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I remember psn going down cuz of anonymous once

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100%

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Other than that idk of any

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Not saying there weren’t

tranquil glen
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tbf I think crapbox and windux more than psn bc they are a bit more popular

inland oasis
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I mean it can happen to ANY company at any time

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No matter the prevention

tranquil glen
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and again (your playing with pc players who some portion WILL) find a way to mod, cheat, grief, troll...

inland oasis
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So it’s a self created issue to cry about

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It’s annoying sure. But people are reaching for any reason to complain about it

tranquil glen
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not really, devs were forced to do it bc of crossplay and unless they remove "REINFORCEMENTS IN BOUND" from between the two tis the only way to assist the moderatoin of game

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most of pc community can either stfu about it or just play

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for those that are arguing anyway*

inland oasis
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That’s the side I’m on. Lol

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Just play 😂🤷🏻

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Granted some places literally can’t now

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That’s an issue

tranquil glen
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literally in general on hd2 server its "Dont play, psn was hacked last year the year before that then 2 years then 4 then 6" etc... like bruh GO PLAY and shut up

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true some places cant but not much the devs can do about that cept let the regions its unable to let it be free and let them just suffer with it

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which would affect the rest of us

inland oasis
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Yea it’s a real catch 22

shadow tartan
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@inland oasis we got called lovers

worldly vector
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They will do the same for d2 players

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But only after fs releases cause they don’t want people refunding preorders (again)

restive tusk
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If i really wanted to play linking my psn account is easy af.
but i honestly don't understand why this is being forced now, what exactly do they expect to gain that couldnt be achieved with alternatives

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It's just antagonizing an otherwise satisfied player base, and likely loosing some potential costumers

mental rose
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Imo. they should've delayed the game to sort out whatever those "technical issues" were. Then at launch communicated clearly that "Hey Steam users, you're gonna need a PSN account to play this game"
People might be annoyed, but they would just move on to other games from that, and not set the internet ablaze over it...

worldly vector
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this is such a good run yet im not in dark mirror which means all 225 bones are useless

dry copper
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I assume helldivers is getting review bombed

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They're at Mostly negative right now

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Has HD2 always said it required a playstation account to use it?

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It makes sense, given they are published by Playstation

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I can't even remember my playstation account. If I already have it linked to steam idk

inland oasis
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TLDR: u have to have a PSN account to play. period. people angry bout that. using anything and everything as reasons why its SOOOOO big of an inconvience to them. from dataleaks to there grandma dying.

fleet moat
inland oasis
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yea, its literally just an account you need to play

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plain simple and easy

dry copper
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hell. You don't even need payment info on it

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or a real name

inland oasis
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but its SUCH an inconvience to them

dry copper
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If you have a sony account does it change your username?

rotund cosmos
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I don't think so

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But, from a PS pov, Im pretty sure we can change our nicknames

dry copper
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First time free.

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Second time and on is $10

rotund cosmos
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Guess they really don't want spammed accounts

plucky mesa
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Looks like KSP2 studio is laying off -- seems KSP2 is over.

tame cairn
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ah...

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i forgot about the spiderwick chronicles

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the new show for it anyways

earnest hatch
inland oasis
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doubtful. arrowhead is being forced by sonys hand

silver sparrow
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The Hand of Sony ™️

tame cairn
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lmao

earnest hatch
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which is unfortunate

inland oasis
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yep. arrowheads gets the blame while sony actually caused it. kinda like at a resturaunt, the server takes all the guff cuz the COOK (sony) screwed up

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im more curious of the legal side of it as to if any of these corps are gonna try and sue or step in. like steam allowing sony to sell a game worldwide to places PSN isnt even accessable...HOW can that in any form be legal?

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plus being that it JUST happened those people clearly have over 2 hours in game typically which nullifies any refund. yet, the people who cant make a psn account LITERALLY cant play, AND are out there money.

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its a shitshow

silver sparrow
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Let the man cook

shadow tartan
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And they communicate like shit

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Fucking basic

inland oasis
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theyve a near flawless track record in terms of good will with the player base up until now

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sure the usual patch complainers

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not saying theyre perfect by any means

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if thats how it came across

restive tusk
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I mean they had a stellar launch and a very solid game thats creating a bit of a cult following.
This whole Sony PSN business is a stupid stain in the narrative now 😂

shadow tartan
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Launch wasn't stellar, friends list was broken to shit

inland oasis
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yet we still played together xD

shadow tartan
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It was just a fun game and that has changed a bit because of balancing

shadow tartan
inland oasis
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i mean, it did its job

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idk how it was ass

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i never had issues with the friends list tho ik it was issue for some

restive tusk
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in pratical terms i'd still call it stellar.
considering everything else we have to compare it with when it comes to multiplayer games, it was pretty good

shadow tartan
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Nah I had so many issues and even helped some people on the Discord squad up

inland oasis
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i had horribole matchmaking problems with my experience

shadow tartan
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Legit embarrassing

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People that were rl friends in the same country not able to pay together

inland oasis
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thats still the same ONE problem

shadow tartan
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Had to add me as a friend and then join me

inland oasis
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even as bad as it was

shadow tartan
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They had UI and hosting issues with that though, two separate things

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And still has issues

inland oasis
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just be me

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play solo

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xD

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clearly its helped skew my thoughts on the performance of the game as ive hardly had issues except random disconnects and kicked at extract which im pretty sure was a game bug at the time not actual people kicking

shadow tartan
inland oasis
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u get used to being kicked

shadow tartan
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Hahahahaha

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Game at launch was a mess and it's not a surprise that they didn't implement something like this properly. They even added GameGuard late and got backlash.
It's not the first time we've seen people bandaid something broke.

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Didn't stop it being fun but still

shadow tartan
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Just had to set up some Mordaunt Short speakers @silver sparrow

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Bangin

primal loom
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Same pants

tame cairn
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have to verify my phone number to talk in helldivers discord now

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smh

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my phone number is connected to another account i dont even remember and i have no idea how to get it back

weak tiger
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Gotta scan your drivers license then

tame cairn
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i hope this server doesnt change that any time soon

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many servers have been doing that

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and i just have to leave them all

weak tiger
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That’s tough :(. There’s been a ton of scamming etc so it does seem like most big servers are going for every security thing available. Did discord support help? Not sure if they could like, find and unlink the account or something

tame cairn
shadow tartan
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@idle saffron and I trollin

weak tiger
tame cairn
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but yeah

idle saffron
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Yeah, it's mostly a shit show there right now

shadow tartan
idle saffron
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They should be banned

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And their discord account as well

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Violation of ToS

shadow tartan
shadow tartan
idle saffron
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Nate

weak tiger
idle saffron
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Lol

coarse swift
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Unbelievalbe

shadow tartan
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That's fair

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Nate is an insult

coarse swift
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Nate I'm here for yo- shit, I just did it too

idle saffron
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BANNED

shadow tartan
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I got called a rock throwing spear chucker in Elden Ring

idle saffron
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People are messed up

coarse swift
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nate is such a goobie snoobert

weak tiger
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Slate it is. Rocks >>>

shadow tartan
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Nah, Sony bad

shadow tartan
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This is what happens when you can't manage your racist homophobic player base that doesn't know something is based on satire

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Straight up extremists in there too

austere lance
idle saffron
shadow tartan
austere lance
shadow tartan
fringe finch
shadow tartan
austere lance
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tame cairn
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thats so good lol

mental rose
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Virgin Aspyr vs Chad Nightdive.
We know who won this one 😄

austere lance
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Nightdive always wins when it comes to remasters

mental rose
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I need to get back to System Shock remake some day. They completely reworked the final boss battle

austere lance
edgy viper
primal loom
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Hopefully they will make an exception for those users as well

winter yew
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hey this looks fu— gets destroyed

mental rose
winter yew
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im gonna say it, base rathian is more annoying than base rathalos. I hate that one poison attack

dry copper
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Seasoned fried chicken

dry copper
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I thought so.

inland oasis
winter yew
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im scared

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havent fought it yet

inland oasis
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Have you ever been animation locked yet? Like hit, stunned into another hit, and by the time you get up you get hit and stunned again. Literally like nothing you can do? I swear it’s famous for doing that to me

inland oasis
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The “dazed/dizzy” one I hate the most. And the one where your guy doesn’t stand up straight and crawls around a bit. Idk if I’m placebo effecting myself but I swear walking in the opposite direction of the way your guys is clumsily falling over I think helps regain your footing

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It feels like I stand up faster, but idk if that’s just me lol or a game mechanic

winter yew
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they really should make it so button spamming makes it wear off faster

inland oasis
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That and I miss every hit

winter yew
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my friend says Valstrax WILL oneshot

inland oasis
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Idk what Valstrax even is yet but it wouldn’t surprise me. There was this one challenge to kill these massive mosswine things, they one shot me somehow lol

winter yew
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i need to hunt more Rathalos to get that armor set S

inland oasis
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I still use the defender armor 😅 fully upgraded though

inland oasis
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Defender katana IV atm

winter yew
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yeah, apparently the defender set is BASE endgame armor and weaponry

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what hub rank are you?

inland oasis
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Yep, at iceborn you get your ass kicked again. And I’m already struggling a bit 😅

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I believe I’m HR 16?

inland oasis
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I can’t remember exactly. I’m up to everstream, and nergigante for the second time

winter yew
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fair i did start a week ago

inland oasis
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Roughly about the same

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Litttleee bit longer

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I got the bundle on sale for 67% off so I had to get it

winter yew
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g a m e p a s s

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im saving up for a PS5 so i cant afford to actually buy games..

inland oasis
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I got gamepass too lol. But no storage space 😂

winter yew
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NOO, i hate how simply trying to switch items can use them

inland oasis
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I use controller lol

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So I use left n right on Dpad

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Took me a while to stop thinking X was attack like a lot of games. And instead it’s the trigger lol

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Oh one tip you may already know

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Save up like 75k and buy the power and armor charm from the trade store guy at the hub

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If you keep them on you it’s a flat defense and attack increase

winter yew
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already have

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found them on my own

inland oasis
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Ah nice

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Wait till you fight the legiana

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To me it’s like a rathian with ice instead of poison lol

winter yew
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i’m not a big fan of Rathian

inland oasis
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Lmao wait till you have to fight the pink/azure rathalos/rathian. I forget which it is

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Anything that flies isn’t fun to fight. My personal opinion lol

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But I bully great Jagras at this point 😂

winter yew
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this game either makes you feel like a hero or a soldier fighting a war they cannot win

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There is no in between

inland oasis
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Lmao yea. What class do you use? I main Longsword at the moment. Haven’t gotten to try anything else yet

winter yew
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dual blades

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half of the damage but much higher dps

inland oasis
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Isn’t that highly mobile as well

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That’s why I went LS instead of buster sword lol. I like being able to move too

winter yew
#

uou need to see some of these clips

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this is the only uploaded atm

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hated this guy, screaming every three seconds. No aid ever came

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had to solo it

inland oasis
winter yew
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never seen that before

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different ui?

inland oasis
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Uhhh, default settings lol I never changed nothing

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Maybe it’s diff per class

winter yew
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no, i dont think it is

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im playing rise, you?

inland oasis
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I noticed yours doesn’t look like monster hunter worlds lol

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Ohhhhh

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Lmao

worldly vector
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😂

inland oasis
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I been on MHW the whole time tryna get to iceborn.

winter yew
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thats why

inland oasis
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Lmao

winter yew
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Valtrax is a Rise exclusive ig

inland oasis
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Gotcha, that’d make sense then

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Goes to show you can play 2 different games and they have such good similarities that it doesn’t matter which you play

winter yew
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Which village does world take place in

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Rise is Kamura

inland oasis
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Uhhh. No idea. I just know the hub names 😂

winter yew
inland oasis
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Cutscenes are unskippable so I’ve kinda ignored

winter yew
inland oasis
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It bugs me when I can’t choose to skip em

winter yew
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rise has skippable cutscenes

inland oasis
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Isn’t that also SP too?

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Cuz ik the diff with worlds is it being mostly always online

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But doesn’t have an official SP mode

winter yew
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SP?

inland oasis
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Singleplayer mode

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Like worlds you HAVE to be playing online afaik. But you can solo

winter yew
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ah

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yeah it has SP

inland oasis
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That’s nice tbh

winter yew
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it has its own SP questline

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village quests

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runs up to 6*

inland oasis
#

I admit I like to cheat in games after I’ve beaten them for fun

winter yew
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or 7

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no 6

inland oasis
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So singleplayer has replayability for me

winter yew
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yeah its kinda short

inland oasis
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Everyone’s always told me they’re all good but to go with worlds. So yea I just did. No reason against rise

winter yew
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I want to do sunbreak, but i cant afford it

inland oasis
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What’s the “newest” one lol

winter yew
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Rise

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Sunbreak is the expansion

inland oasis
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Ohhhh wow

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I had it backwards

winter yew
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actually

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idk

inland oasis
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Lmao. 😂

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I always thought iceborn was newest

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Thus making worlds newest since that’s just dlc. But I never knew for certain

winter yew
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i think its rise

inland oasis
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Either way 🤷🏻

winter yew
#

when did iceborn come out

inland oasis
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Also no idea 😂

winter yew
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😆

inland oasis
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2019

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September

winter yew
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Sunbreak 2023 June

inland oasis
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Oh yea way newer then

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Damn iceborn old af

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No wonder it was bundled so cheap

restive tusk
restive tusk
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https://youtu.be/10kBtOnPiTo?si=5TiN1O81vtpuPMAx
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I don't even know why that's te title he barely talks about the actual review bombing

tranquil glen
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Frostpunk is $6 on steam for sale!!!
(steampunk snowpocaplypse city survival)

worldly vector
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this spirit build used to be really good but now its ass

coarse swift
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good ole Skul

orchid fox
#

sony is now on a warpath with entire steam playerbase with this move

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shit goin down from 0 to 100 in 48h

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cant even see account link button on helldivers client lol

mental rose
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Oh shit. I'm assuming that's a list of countries where HD2 is now delisted on Steam?

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So Steam is apparently approving refunds for HD2, even if you've played more than 2 hours.

orchid fox
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blocked from half the earth

orchid fox
#

do i refund hmmmm

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i have already linked my psn and will link it again in few weeks cuz tsushima multiplayer so prob not worth me refunding

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but i expect a heavy amount of steam playerbase will refund

worldly vector
coarse swift
orchid fox
orchid fox
coarse swift
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Ghost of Tsushima has multiplayer?

orchid fox
#

yes

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lol

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squad based ish

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its the actual reason i bought the game

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lol

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was standalone on ps

mental rose
#

The fact they're suddenly delisting HD2 in a lot of countries, tells me all of this was not originally planned.
Or they just realized too late (like dum-dums) that PSN doesn't work in those countries.

orchid fox
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lol

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im not gonna refund as i have a psn and linked it but i hope the ones that got their region blocked on steam refund

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theres so many on helldivers discord that want to play doesnt want to refund but their country is blocked so they cant

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😦

inland oasis
#

Selling something someone can’t use is so scummy even if it says it in the store page. Especially so in this case when you can “bypass” it and play still back then. And now, just not at all, for some. That has to be grounds for a lawsuit somewhere

orchid fox
#

it was stupid sony sold it there in the first place

inland oasis
#

Oh I just get curious as to where the blame falls on mostly. Obviously Sony, but steam STILL sold it too

orchid fox
#

i feel they just did damage control last second

orchid fox
inland oasis
#

Steam openly allowed a product restricted by regions to be sold to those people that are restricted from it. Even IF they CAN, doesn’t mean steam is entitled to take advantage of that. At least to me

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Sony obviously knows where they’re restricted from so either they really screwed up, lied to steam/gave them a wrong info description, or something, or, steam didn’t care

#

Worst case, all of it. No one cares and they did it all wrong 😂

#

They’re honoring the after 2h refunds tho

orchid fox
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@inland oasis oh i agree its stupid of both parties but im pretty sure thats moderated by devs

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im not refunding i already linked my account and all

inland oasis
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I’m not refunding cuz to me it’s not an issue even

orchid fox
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but i recon a fuck ton of players and big names will

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me neither

inland oasis
#

Just a dumb implementation of it

orchid fox
#

its not an issue i have accs on all major platforms still a horrendously stupid move on sony AND steams part, even more stupid to fix it as damage control 3 months after release

inland oasis
#

I just feel really bad for the people who used to play and literally now can’t. They’re being drowned out by the people complaining for non issue reasons

mental rose
inland oasis
#

And this occurred

orchid fox
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wanna know what makes it worse? every cm of helldivers have deleted or protected their twitters. when ur game is in a literal community crisis community managers should not run and hide xd

inland oasis
#

Well they have to

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Being threatened and all

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It takes one person to take it too far

orchid fox
inland oasis
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Radio silence can be bad yea.

orchid fox
#

i still want their mental health and all

inland oasis
#

Think of it this way. They tried to put out the flames and accidentally dumped more gas on

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They HAD to go silent

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Lmao

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Coincidentally after the apologies

orchid fox
#

i still agree that "sony account linking is purely 100% for banning reasons" and "we could yes, but linking sony accounts makes it easier to moderate" is bullshit heard of steam vac bans u have free power to do? its not on steam request basis xD

inland oasis
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It totally is. It’s PR for “Sony daddy is making us.”

orchid fox
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u have the free power to vac ban us from the game under any reasons thats not steams responsibility lol

mental rose
#

Don't quote me on this, but apparently the devs are siding with the players and are asking them to refund to put a squeeze on Sony. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7-R1n9KoPw

inland oasis
#

I’m not saying that there weren’t issues but Everytime I play whether griefed or not, it’s hilarious. I never felt we needed some massive ban wave. But again, I play extremely casually

orchid fox
mental rose
#

Ah

inland oasis
#

Devs want the negative reviews to use as ammo against Sony

mental rose
#

Ay yi yi...

orchid fox
#

like i understand teamkilling for "reclaiming my samples" may be considered griefing but there is so much teamkilling by stray stratagems u will pretty much have to ban entire community if ur gonna ban anyone

inland oasis
#

Agreed determining griefing and actual accidental team killing is sometimes totally undetectable besides human eye

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So we as players have the power to avoid it

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You can have people intentionally grief and laugh about it too like friends

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Goofin off

#

But no ban them right?

orchid fox
#

the game actually thrives in accidental team kills with stratagems and its comedic, i dont think anyone does it for malicious reasons

inland oasis
#

I always smack my fellow helldivers as were extracting at the pelican just to test there loyalty

#

😂😂

orchid fox
#

XD

#

like a true soldier o7

inland oasis
#

See I expect them to shoot me, or just continue to get in. It’s when the little back n forth slap war starts that I thrive for

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Like YES HE HIT ME BACK!

#

We’re friends now

orchid fox
# mental rose Ah

but ye this is sony literally abusing powere NONE of the devs geniounly like the move they are forced upon them. even condoning downvoting the game to oblivion to give arrowhead power back

but its sony's owned ip so shrug

inland oasis
#

Denying my hug?

-kicked

mental rose
#

What I would find funny, is that stratagems can't kill you, but they'll still send you flying.
Now add the wilhelm or Goofy's scream on top and voila 😁

inland oasis
#

I wish they switched the sticky/tracking of stratagems. Like the red ones track and stick to enemies.

orchid fox
inland oasis
#

Tho I love the funny teamkills sticking a buddy with a sentry

#

Oopsie

orchid fox
#

ty @ max0r vid

inland oasis
#

Everyone’s mad about PSN but the real issue is “NERF HUNTERS”

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Lmao 😂

orchid fox
#

them along with stalkers

inland oasis
#

I wouldn’t mind them if they just couldn’t jump so fucking FAR

orchid fox
#

u cant fucking outrun stalkers xD

inland oasis
#

ITS RIDICULOUS

#

half a football field away

#

smack

orchid fox
#

and headshot u with a cleave

inland oasis
#

And that damn ropetongue, slowing every hit

#

Oh you need to reload?? Hunter breathing intensifies

orchid fox
#

the fact the ai actively jumpdodge ur reticle line of sight is kinda infuriating tbh (in fact all ai does lol)

inland oasis
#

That side strafe makes me want to end my controller sometimes

orchid fox
#

like the ai is coded so fucking unfair xD

inland oasis
#

Like how can you predict my infinitely random brain

#

STHAP

orchid fox
#

XD

#

ive been sometimes wanting to throw my mice into the wall tbh

inland oasis
#

“If I’d of shot a millisecond later” type thoughts

#

I’m pissed off now thinking about it 😂

orchid fox
#

lol

orchid fox
#

sidestrafing = win

#

XD

inland oasis
#

The hunter deserves its own Boss room music

orchid fox
#

YES 100% xD

#

queues souls music as the unending horde approaches

#

cuz 20 breaches is approaching rapidly

inland oasis
#

I think what mentally infuriates me about them the most is that they just don’t LOOK like they should be so tough. Like

“You look like the little ugly cousin version of you, the one I wipe thousands off the planet of…BUT YOU …. What depth of hell have you come from?!?”

#

Being all boss like looking like a lvl 1 npc

orchid fox
#

XD

#

i dont have weapons to deal with all the incomming enemies in diffi 7-9 so i just gave up with super samples lol @inland oasis

#

and the one i liked arc thrower is prime ally killer

#

lol

inland oasis
#

I never play above challenging anyways. I goof off to much

#

The higher the difficulty the more toxicity 😂

orchid fox
#

i hate that arc thrower hard arcs to allies lol

inland oasis
#

Yeaaaaa fr

mental rose
#

The higher the difficulty, the greater the sweat.
And last one might as well be a sauna.

orchid fox
#

and its usually a onetap

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lol

inland oasis
#

Or when the flamer clips thru the other side of the enemy

orchid fox
#

oh u stand in arc range
DED

inland oasis
#

“WHY AM I ON FIRE?!”

orchid fox
#

didnt they increase arc thrower arc range? lol

inland oasis
#

I never read the patches cuz I never felt the in game difference anyways

#

I still use the breaker shotgun 😅

orchid fox
#

they murdered my boi 😠

#

i hear slugger is decent now

inland oasis
#

They need to make a shotgun where “the harder you pump it the harder it hits!” 😂

#

Imma be the dude pumping the whole instance just to kill one titan 😂

orchid fox
#

i wish i could play remnant 2 dlc but the memory leak is back with the vengeance for the third launcyh in the games history

inland oasis
#

That reason actually kept me from getting it

#

Normally I say screw it but mem leaks are no joke

orchid fox
#

i cant even get 30 fps in player hub while idle :/Y

inland oasis
#

Constant degradation then too

orchid fox
#

not even having started dlc

#

and THAT IS ON POTATO ULTRA PERFORMANCE NO HIGH DETAIL SHADOWS

#

not even 30

inland oasis
#

Yikes

orchid fox
#

how

#

i have a 3070 and 12th gen intel i7

#

HOW

inland oasis
#

So memory leak, what’s it leaking into, and where’s it go? 😂 /j

orchid fox
#

i am way beyond specs for my native ress and cant even get 60 on lowest settings

#

while idle

inland oasis
#

1080p or 4k?

mental rose
orchid fox
#

for third time in games history memory leak is back and not fixed for some months prob

mental rose
#

Or am I imagining it...

orchid fox
#

1440p neither 1080 nor 4k @inland oasis

inland oasis
#

Ahh middle ground

#

Still then

orchid fox
#

i should still handle it cuz im above recommended for 1440p

inland oasis
#

Yea. I can run some games even at that, on low

#

With a gtx1660 😂

mental rose
#

Doesn't memory leak eventually crash your PC itself, if it gets bad enough during a session?

orchid fox
#

only ever had 2 crashes in games lifespan

inland oasis
#

Should’ve installed flex seal.exe

mental rose
inland oasis
#

Yea I don’t know the technical part of it. Like why or how it happens

#

But I always assume it’s trying to use memory because something in the code won’t run, thus leaking the ram that’s being fed into it

inland oasis
#

Instant 60fps

#

Like is a memory leak a literal hole in the code 😂

#

And that’s why they call them “patches” to fix it

mental rose
inland oasis
#

The only good bug is a dead bug!

#

Hotfixes involve the flamer

The HEAVY Flamer

orchid fox
#

I will check remnant 2 patch but doubt its fixed

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u know the situation helldivers 2 going through it reminds me how lucky we are that hello games isnt acquired by anyone and are free

inland oasis
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Kratos just casually taking a stroll in elden ring ^_^

sleek cloud
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it's a scummy move for them to suddenly announce the required PSN account right at its peak when most have surpassed the 2 hour refund window

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quaint escarp
#

cant wait to see how people defend this

idle saffron
#

Why would they?

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But review bombing kills the developer, not the publisher

quaint escarp
#

i meant the region lock, review bombing usually gets fixed on steam if its blatantly false

#

idc about the reviews

idle saffron
#

They shouldn't have sold in those countries, or have a waiver for them

quaint escarp
#

this really sucks for arrowhead

idle saffron
#

Yeah

quaint escarp
#

sony just completely fucked over their success

#

from goty contender to whatever this is

idle saffron
#

Saw some speculation they were going this route because of their earnings report May 14th... lots of new PSN accounts would go over well - dunno how accurate that is

quaint escarp
#

sucks for anyone thats not online watching the media shitshow, imagine waking up wanting to play and now its disabled

#

ur just automatically going to blame the devs

idle saffron
#

Yep

quaint escarp
#
idle saffron
inland oasis
#

ouch

idle saffron
#

Imagine taking responsibility for your actions - Sony could learn something

quaint escarp
#

this sums it up

idle saffron
#

Oof

sleek cloud
#

VPN maybe?

inland oasis
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iirc devs themselves were encouraging the negative reviews (with actual logical complaints) so they could use that as a conversation peice with sony. as they arent fond of it either obviously lol

quaint escarp
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cant buy it

sleek cloud
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oof

quaint escarp
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Sony didnt region lock the game even tho they knew psn was a requirement

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this is a publisher issue

quaint escarp
inland oasis
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steam also didnt help, but at least it "said" you need a third party account. though it not being at launch gave the wrong idea to people who didnt pay attention to it

quaint escarp
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they dont care about reviews, refunds tho hit their bottom line

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steam has it labeled as required, they had the skip option so people were confused

inland oasis
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yea, and theyre at least attempting to honor refunds

quaint escarp
inland oasis
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regardless of the 2 hrs

quaint escarp
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hopefully they remove the requirement, the longer this takes the more goodwill is lost

sleek cloud
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first Tarkov then Helldivers was like 'hold my beer'

inland oasis
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yea, unless people realize its sony not arrow head, then arrowhead will get a ton of sympathy, but that wont pay bills xD

quaint escarp
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tarkov deserves to crash and burn

inland oasis
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it deserves to be "UNHEARD" of

sleek cloud
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definitely smells of desperation

quaint escarp
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arrowhead has been genuinely good and has communication with their players

sleek cloud
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after Arena was a massive flop

quaint escarp
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it smells like greedy executives

inland oasis
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200+$ for another new edition of the game....for pve access. fucking joke.

quaint escarp
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theres always a few suits that pitch the most idiotic things

inland oasis
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i used to have SPT tarkov before i got banned xD

sleek cloud
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it's the P2W s**t that comes with it too

inland oasis
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was worth it

quaint escarp
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pve coop isnt dlc

inland oasis
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in minimum, its a base game mechanic

sleek cloud
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not when the game is still in its development stages lol

rotund cosmos
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Still in dev stages, but charges $200??

sleek cloud
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should have just released more fancy skins and whatnot for people to buy

quaint escarp
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any company that sells a all future dlc pack then adds something major that isnt included is scummy

inland oasis
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kick in the balls

rotund cosmos
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This reeks of Star Citizen

sleek cloud
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iirc no content is locked behind a paywall in SC right?

inland oasis
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nope. u can buy ships for real money iirc tho

rotund cosmos
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Unless that fits your description of content behind paywalls, which fits mine

inland oasis
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but its not behind a wall

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u can literally get it in game too

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just open the door

rotund cosmos
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Oh, the wall is easily accessible how nice. Just pay $250 for a ship

inland oasis
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or play the game....and earn it...?

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for ....free

rotund cosmos
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How long does that take?

inland oasis
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i mean, people share currency

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i got star citizen

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and now have 2m from a friend like that

quaint escarp
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arent there $10k ships

inland oasis
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yea

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lmao theres aggregious prices

sleek cloud
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point is, it's not like Tarkov where there is no other option BUT to pay for the content to get it

inland oasis
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the 890 jump i think its called was a crazy expensive one

quaint escarp
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they are both scummy practices and i womt support either

inland oasis
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its like a yacht spaceship

rotund cosmos
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It fits my definition

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Also in perpetual development

inland oasis
rotund cosmos
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I loathe it. It's the wrong cymbal sound

mental rose
inland oasis
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yea its a open cymbal rather than closed xD

mental rose
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They only sold DLC during early access period

inland oasis
mental rose
rotund cosmos
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I don't think it's a cymbal at all that made the sound

inland oasis
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cuz thats more of a tambourine

rotund cosmos
mental rose