other-games

[restive current]

How true.

[dry dirge]

I live in a suburban area so I don't have that problem

[restive current]

'Littering...is a birth-right.'

[dry dirge]

I would just die if I lived in a city

well I do technically

[dry copper]

New Yorker be all like...Ya'll don't know Eau de toilet

[restive current]

Only takes a few decades to turn 'sub-' into 'full'.

We used to be a 'village' for administrative purposes.

Now...we're practically part of the city.

Quite literally.

[dry dirge]

If that happens, I'll leave

[restive current]

I, unfortunately, have not that option.

[weak tiger]

Cities can be hellish sometimes. I love the access to things I need but I need trees and clear skies and some illusion of privacy in my life

[orchid fox]

detroit become french

[restive current]

I'd rather live away from the sewer of civilization, but...I'm stuck.

[dry dirge]

Don't you live in washington? What clear skies?

[restive current]

There are not-hellish cities?

[dry copper]

Shits getting nuts here. In Ontario the premier is expanding City Mayoral powers to give them more power to expand city outskirts. I can just see the regions around Toronto now bitching at not wanting to join the GTA...which has the worst tax bracket in Canada

[restive current]

Skies? What're those?

[weak tiger]

Washington’s a big state lmao. There are clear skies, just like there are smoggy shitholes

[dry dirge]

Not smog

clouds

[dry copper]

Smoggy Shithole is my new garage band

[dry dirge]

so many clouds

[weak tiger]

Clouds yeah. But we have clear days too… sometimes… every blue moon or so

[orchid fox]

@weak tiger

[dry copper]

There are a lot of blue moons, incidentally.

[weak tiger]

If you want really clear skies, eastern WA is where you go. But I shrivel up and die every time I go there

[restive current]

WA?

[weak tiger]

Washington

That’s our abbreviation for it

[dry dirge]

Why do you shrivel up and die 😔

[restive current]

Ah...and why 👆?

[dry copper]

I think they're a worm

[weak tiger]

it is hella dry and hot out there

yeah not good for my skin

[restive current]

How hot?

[weak tiger]

Maybe not hot hot but way hotter than here. Hit over 100 last summer iirc? More drastic seasons too. It’s mostly the dryness that kicks my ass

Prone to headaches and migraines and they happen a lot more frequently there. Something something pressure changes

[dry dirge]

Around here it's either super cold or super hot

sometimes switching between both in the same day

[dry copper]

Think I might fry up some liver for dinner.

[weak tiger]

pass I like the constant cold and rainy

[restive current]

Fair enough, I can see why that'd be a problem.

[dry dirge]

Oh, that's only during spring

during fall and winter it's always cold

[restive current]

We, on the other hand, live in constant 30+ Celsius (86+ Fahrenheit).

[dry dirge]

and in summer it's always hot

I hate summer

[restive current]

30-33 is perennial (35 now, due to global warming), now reaching 40 Celsius.

Close to, uh...104?

[weak tiger]

Summer is the freakin worst

But the seasons are changing anyway and becoming super staggered, and it’s screwing over our farmers big time. Try and tell me climate change isn’t real when our local farmer folks can barely feed themselves

[restive current]

Ours have been suiciding for years.

Never thought I'd see rain in November...and April.

But the former last year, latter this year...

[dry dirge]

My current fallout character revolves around bonking people to death with a golf club

very efficient

[restive current]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-tom-hit-golf-gif-13759434

[visual scarab]

Ouch, I hope you got something else more fun

[weak tiger]

Yeah! Even here a lot of states are getting record breaking temperatures, rainfall, etc the past few years

[weak tiger]

Tire iron my beloved

[visual scarab]

You trying to do “a slave obeys” challenge in NV?

[dry dirge]

I love the special melee mechanic in NV

[orchid fox]

wait wha

context?

[dry dirge]

No, just regular ol melee

[visual scarab]

The learnable special moves are cool

[visual scarab]

Oh you know, the GRA dlc for FNV give you a challenge to whack Mr. House with a golf club

[orchid fox]

lol

[orchid fox]

i havent played new vegas

period

[visual scarab]

Oh

Yeah I’d recommend it

Though vanilla NV do be crashing a lot

[dry dirge]

Oh dear

deptuy beagle's dead

[visual scarab]

I thought he was essential ngl

[dry dirge]

There's a piece of dialogue with robert nash if he dies

Obsidian thought of everything

[orchid fox]

allright imma go to bed peace

@weak tiger sleep well o/

[restive current]

Same. Temperatures have never fallen, and now, rain-fall's gone off the rails.

[winter yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu-6G5g3TFY this is how missiles work on ace combat

[restive current]

Deus Ex is way too in-depth than any game that old is supposed to be...and it's fun!

[restive current]

I almost thought that was a Space Shuttle...

[dry copper]

Weird. Interesting Missile Facts is like Rick Rolling for tech junkies.

Is there an "Aliens want to say" version of "Interesting Missile Facts"?

[orchid fox]

Ive only watched a video speaking about it with the mumy dude with a glock preaching god

Forgot what creator i watched dou

Think it was badger

[visual scarab]

Oh that’s the Honest Hearts dlc, great characters, shit execution

[weak tiger]

@dry dirge @primal loom sorry for the ping buuut are either of you down for Human Fall Flat with me and Red? say perchance the weekend after this next weekend?

no vc required if you’re not comfortable with it 🫶

[dry dirge]

Sure!

[snow zenith]

I'm inviting myself also

[weak tiger]

[primal loom]

On Steam right?

[weak tiger]

Yes!

[austere lance]

Why must I hate myself and decide to grind Equinox in Warframe 💀

[willow crypt]

you don’t have to do either of those

[austere lance]

False

I require Equinox

[willow crypt]

🆗

[weak tiger]

I live vicariously through you. I’d be farming if I could 😭

[austere lance]

Why can't you

[weak tiger]

IRL dumb stuff gettin in the way can’t really play until Thursday ish at the earliest

[austere lance]

Happens 😔

At least you're not grinding an eight part frame 💀

[weak tiger]

Oh lawd. Hell nah. I’m halfway through Citrine, just need to bully my friends into farming the mission with me

[coarse swift]

Could be worse

You could have to grind that eight part frame twice because you got rid of your regular Equinox in favor of Prime before Helminth wall was a thing

[dry copper]

pssst. Ceryn. Wanna know a secret?

[coarse swift]

No

Keep your secrets

[weak tiger]

noooo thank you

[dry copper]

Buuuut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMUEFZXkmDA

[coarse swift]

Betting you haven't played Yume Nikki

[dry copper]

You win

[weak tiger]

I’m only MR 7

[coarse swift]

Same except I'm LR2

[snow zenith]

[dry copper]

Yume nikki scares me

[coarse swift]

Your account is finally old enough to use Discord

[weak tiger]

Your frame is pretty

[dry copper]

DE did a good job with their tenno customization.

[balmy plaza]

Kinda want to try warframe

Love destiny but it's in a dry patch rn

[dry copper]

What I like the most about Warframe is that it's a Canadian developer.

[balmy plaza]

I want to move to Canada ngl

[dry dirge]

weird thing to like most but ok

[weak tiger]

There’s stuff I really want to be doing in D2

[dry copper]

I had a bit of a crush on Megan Everett from Digital Extremes when I first saw Warframe

[weak tiger]

Sent before I finished my thought :/ * kept hearing about a lot of bugs this weekend so didn’t log in.

[balmy plaza]

Yeah lightfall has a lot of content, I just played so much of it 😭 maybe it's more accurate to say I've dried the game out for myself lol

But yeah the update is kinda janky

[dry dirge]

Untitled

[weak tiger]

Lolll, I feel that. I have a habit of leaving everything and then speedrunning content at the end of the expansion 😂 got the Reaper title as last minute as it gets.

I really want the season pass armor though so I gotta jump in now and then

[balmy plaza]

Yeah it's really fantastic. Even the normal seasonal armour too, especially for titans

[dry dirge]

I want a skin for Limbo

[balmy plaza]

Did you do the raid?

[dry dirge]

word cannot express how in love I am with Limbo

[dry copper]

Is that Larry+Rambo?

[balmy plaza]

Isn't that the one which can kinda switch dimensions?

[dry dirge]

yes

[balmy plaza]

I think limbo was new the last time I played

I gotta give it another go

[austere lance]

I'm only MR6, and my prettiest frame is Titania Prime 😆

[dry dirge]

I'm also MR6

[weak tiger]

me?

[balmy plaza]

Yeah

[weak tiger]

I have not. Only done a handful of raids but apparently Root of Nightmares isn’t too bad?

I really wanna do it

[snow zenith]

[austere lance]

Ghostwire is kinda mid but this fight in a pitch black parking garage against a 7 foot tall demonic lady was cool, lol
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/3924RJLQAJ

[balmy plaza]

Yeah it's pretty easy! I don't usually raid because of the pressure but this one is pretty accessible

If you've done spire of the watcher you'll have a good foundation for the main mechanics

Visually it's pretty incredible too

[weak tiger]

I hear ya, people stress me out a bit much would love to do that raid sometime this season. I still need to farm spire but have done it before

[balmy plaza]

Yeah it's kinda weird, especially in orbit before you start the raid

The saving grace is that there's a lot of roles that don't require much communication

[weak tiger]

That’d be nice! People get wild in vc I always prefer ad clear/no callouts but got pretty good at reading the map in Scourge if I do say so myself

[balmy plaza]

There's definitely a lot of room for ad clear! The only encounter that requires a lot of communication is the 3rd, and that's basically just calling out a position

And if you're running ad clear in the final boss, it's really satisfying to see the runner doing the mechanics easily because you've killed the enemies for them

[sick heart]

is it okay to drop an mp3 file here?

[fleet moat]

Sure

[balmy plaza]

@fleet moat can I just say you're an absolute pillar of the community? Thanks for always seeing the best in stuff, even if an update ends up being controversial etc

The NMS community really thrives because of of its kindness, even as it becomes bigger

[fleet moat]

Aww thank you for your kind words, Papa Our team and community feels like a pillar to me! I'm really grateful for you guys

[sick heart]

made this

[austere lance]

Fuck yeah, I have Frost crafted

[dry copper]

So glad I never wasted my money on Forest Ranger Sim

I almost bought it earlier today when I got a notice it had come out.

Reviews...and there are only 17...Almost all negative.

The publisher has a history of backing garbage titles that never get finished

The broadcasts are all pre-recorded.

There's literally ONE twitch streamer playing it

It's early access, but history does not favor this title.

[dry copper]

It's so nice to be able to follow up on previous reports and see videos you've reported on Youtube are removed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zftMwf2yoJU

Straight faiyar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZivIAhxzFyk

Listen to this russian girl killing it on a balalaika.

https://youtu.be/UAfuMol1e-0

I didn't know this but Tim Henson of Polyphia has his own youtube channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBuFeKobtT8

[daring spear]

Oooooo that looks really cool

[sonic sonnet]

Maybe kick this stupid idiot girl out.... GRAH.... SUCH A GLOOM HEAD .... 😠

Sorry i had to vent ... Couldn't take it... She keeps on this depression contagious

THANK YOU DAFNY...one more slap from me too....knock that idiot girl back to her senses...GRAH

[dry copper]

...

Violence is never the answer.

[sonic sonnet]

Well i think it is..... Especially when an intense fight is going on and this girl ruins the mood with ... Prophecy this ... Prophecy that... 🪛 It

GRAH MY WIFI WENT OFF...

🤬

💀

[coarse swift]

Yummy Crucible

Did my competitive matches for the seasonal challenge, went smooth and finished in 6 rounds. Decided to do the 7th round for the hell of it and get a Rose since I was right there

It put me in a 1v3

I got farmed, cringed at, and teabagged by the other team.

And didn't even get a Rose.

[weak tiger]

I’m not touchin crucible until last minute for shader no mcfuckin thanks, my ego doesn’t need any more damage

[coarse swift]

I didn't expect wins or try for them

But that was just a bitch slap

Shame that the other team had to be such poor sports

I sleep very well at night knowing I'm not a teabagger

[weak tiger]

Seriously though. Such a waste of time being a sore winner :/

[coarse swift]

Eh

Those kinda people really aren't worth my time tbh

I just don't think about them

[weak tiger]

I try not to but it does get to me sometimes

[coarse swift]

Like honestly if you're the kind of person who feels the need to boost their own ego at the expense of others... in any capacity, you're immediately worth less in my eyes.

[willow crypt]

i hope it was good tea at least

i’m not one to know good tea from bad, but ditto and nate would know, so i hope on their behalf

[deft iron]

i am so sorry to whoever that was

[tame cairn]

lmao

[neon tusk]

Do you guys know if transformers reactivate will be on ps4?

As it says ps consoles plural and there's only 2 they could put it on

[sonic sonnet]

No Mans Sky ..

Not anymore 🤣

[neon tusk]

What are you talking about you launched him forward

[deft iron]

Wasnt my fault. Going 250 MPH is no excuse to being unable to dodge my very unpredictably spinning car

[neon tusk]

It's possible he landed in first with a very broken car and won

[deft iron]

its a nice thought but we wereee on lap 6/23

[sonic sonnet]

Going at 3 RPM... Hitting redline 🤣

[deft iron]

pink car was hitting pulse speed

[sonic sonnet]

And imagine others also coming from behind

[sonic sonnet]

WARP SPEED after leaving atmos

[deft iron]

dude wouldve landed at 40 mph in fi9rst place with 35 cars at 190 mph right on his ass

gonna turn into a game of pong

i was very sad cause i crashed but seeing that dude ramp off of me like that cheered me up

[sonic sonnet]

https://media.tenor.com/bsHvtuN49VwAAAAM/daytona500-2021.gif

[deft iron]

accurate representation of what occured after the clip

[sonic sonnet]

This is more accurate
https://media.tenor.com/6KsxOgv8AWUAAAAM/ryan-newman.gif

🤣

Thats what we call SCARP YARD

[deft iron]

honestly tho, poor pink car

dude was already nearing last place now he has to deal with being fucking dead

not even the safety of nascar cars could save him from that

[mint field]

Messing around with rockstar creator and popular tiktok audios (spoiler because its GTA5)

[restive current]

https://www.eurogamer.net/nintendo-hacker-gary-bowser-will-be-in-debt-to-the-company-for-the-rest-of-his-life

I still don't understand why people believe intellectual property actually means something.

[winter yew]

I meant to post about this but forgot, I have very strong views on this subject I think Nintendo is a scummy company, I refuse to buy any of their newer products and there’s not really any games of theirs I enjoy because when you try to tailor a game for all ages you tend to have to dumb it down, aka make it boring in order to do so.

No way in hell this dude caused them 65 million dollars in damages they just wanted to make an example of this dude, which is extremely pathetic coming from a company for whom 10 million is a drop in the water. I don’t care what your views are on modding consoles, it takes skill and no one deserves to have their entire life ripped away because they decided to make a little money on the side selling modded consoles. Go after the websites distributing pirated roms don’t go after the people just trying to get more out of their device, and further to that point the problems stem from the fact that they create these devices that are essentially embedded computers then restrict what they can do so that they can sell you a new one every few years

in fact ill even take it a step further, i see no problem in modding games to add additional community related content, and i see no problem in downloading roms for old games you'd be extremely hard pressed to find anymore

cause your alternative in that situation is buying it from some scummy video game "collector" who sells you a hard copy of it for a ridiculous mark up

i hope laws get passed someday that state if a game publisher like nintendo can no longer provide the game to consumers at the original price point then it becomes ok do have a rom of it

[restive current]

What about the 'fair use' laws?

'Make a ROM for backup but nothing more and definitely no distribution'?

[orchid fox]

Ie killing of old game stores on their platforms but imma lurk

Also u can make legal ros if u own copies just dont be a dumb and download/distribute emdou proving u did it the legal way is near impossible

[restive current]

Or at least don't get caught distributing them. 😉

[orchid fox]

Also that

Also yall heard wotc raided a house cuz someone got a card release early

[winter yew]

not good enough, if someone is selling a copy of an old game for hundreds of dollars cause its not made anymore and they know they can get away with it, downloading a rom for that game is not a legal issue imo, certainly not one worth a 10 million dollar fine and time in jail

[orchid fox]

Cuz a vendor broke street day

I mean it is a legal issue cuz downloading roms from distributors IS illegal

[restive current]

Only because people are willing to follow the laws.

If everyone, together, stopped following the laws, it'd be useful.

[winter yew]

anything thats not manufactured and sold in stores, especially if its a cash cow for video game collector scammers should be free to distribute and download imo

[winter yew]

yes i know, im saying i dont agree with the fact thats a thing

[orchid fox]

Ah

[restive current]

I agree. This reminds me of that video by Louis Rossman where Honda blocked someone from 3D printing a broken part for their car.

[winter yew]

nintendo shouldnt be able to ruin someones life over modding their consoles or people distributing old game roms that dont exist for sale anymore

[restive current]

Though I don't remember that one exactly.

[orchid fox]

But then again laws care more for corpos than end user

[winter yew]

exactly, and if companies insist on such harsh punishments for people who pirate old roms or mod consoles

[orchid fox]

Rip 3ds u will forever be missed

[restive current]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-job-job-work-angela-bassett-mission-impossible-fallout-gif-10993296

[winter yew]

then they should face similar legal repercussions for deliberately limiting what the hardware they produce can do

[orchid fox]

I know but still

[winter yew]

so that they can sell a new one every few years

that sounds pretty scammy to me

people like to say that nintendo was a pioneer in the field of gaming but nah, not in the slightest, gaming began with ms DOS games

ironically an operating system you could probably emulate on a modded switch

[orchid fox]

Dou i know nintendo makes an example out of em but owing 30% for the rest of his life is extremely cruel even for nintendo. In that cause theres no ”good guy/good ending”

[winter yew]

i know i can emulate DOS on my modded psp, and my modded vita

[restive current]

I'm being sarcastic there, but I'm very anti-social, so laws don't even make sense to me...and personally, I'd love see the world of intellectual property dismantled.

[winter yew]

not completely dismantled imo, people need to be able to protect their inventions

Microsoft allows all Xbox consoles to be put in a "developer mode" and side load emulators and roms.

[winter yew]

and microsoft also has windows universal programs

Just for an opposite view on things.

[restive current]

I mean...technically, peoples' sympathy for that person may enable them to send gifts...not taxable...so people can send him money and he can still make a living.

[restive current]

On that...we disagree.

[winter yew]

meaning that anything that runs on windows runs on every single microsoft device and operating system

windows universal apps or something

[orchid fox]

Kinda yes and no they prevent it on normal branch dev mode is some harder stuff to get

[restive current]

'Universal Windows Programs'.

UWP.

[winter yew]

which is why i can play most of my xbox games on pc, which is great

[restive current]

Though that's only on Windows 10 and later.

[winter yew]

They dropped UWP. Not a thing anymore.

ah, damn, thats rough

l for microsoft

[restive current]

Wait, really?

[orchid fox]

Isnt xbox os basically glorified windows?

Y

Recently

[restive current]

Because the MS Store would be the same between all?

And have the same applications?

Like, Surface, Phone, XBone, PC...

[winter yew]

i mean, if someone spent their whole life working on an invention, they should see some credit and payout if it gets copied, we just need to draw a line somewhere so big corporations cant screw a random guy over for tampering with a console they own

Yeah, apparently it was stupidly ridiculous to work with so they binned it completely.
Great idea in theory but execution was poor.

thats a shame, i hope they revive the idea sometime cause i think it was awesome

[restive current]

Well, like I said, I disagree. If I invent something just to get something in return, I'm doing it wrong. If I'm unwilling to invent without a payout and locked controls as to who and how can access it, then my invention isn't helping anyone and might as well not exist.

Inventions...belong to everyone. Freely. No one owns anything.

[orchid fox]

I find it funny that according to media the device allowing piracy… had… drm copy protection… lol

[winter yew]

if you invent something revolutionary, or come up with an original idea for a game, then you deserve to profit off it without someone copying it, making more money off it, and then leaving you destitute, unfortunately the reality of the world is that money is everything, so if you come up with something amazing then dont see any success from it, then you cant continue to live or enjoy life

[restive current]

Wait, really?

[orchid fox]

Y

[winter yew]

my problems with enforcing intellectual property so religiously begin with corporations who have already seen billions of dollars in profit, but if the average joe makes something they deserve to reap the benefits of doing so, otherwise what's the point? no money? no life.

[restive current]

No, 'profit' is unsustainable and not something to strive for. If I invent something, the only thing I deserve...is credit. As in, the recognition that I made it. I don't deserve anything else and if someone else makes money off it, that's their prerogative, not a right. Reality is simply what we make of it, and we invented money, we can uninvent it. We can uninvent modern economics, we can learn to not be idiots and actually share with each other, living simply by our needs and eliminating all transactional nonsense.

Though that's a discussion I've been in so many times...on the wrong end, so I'll digress.

[restive current]

Well, we allow corporations to get that large and leverage their power. They'll do all sorts of crap and people will still buy their products.

[winter yew]

well i mean thats a whole other can of worms though, unfortunately everyone is beholden to the economy and the idea of currency, so there needs to be laws in place to make sure people cant get screwed over income wise still, otherwise normal people suffer, as weve seen with this incident with nintendo

[restive current]

Personally, I hate the 'app' model on PC, but having a universal platform is a good thing...shame it went out of commission.

[restive current]

I agree...but that's why, as I said...if everyone together boycotted them...or did any action, then laws wouldn't mean anything and neither would corporations.

Unfortunately, people are all too happy to indulge them, so this will just be lost news in a few days.

[winter yew]

thats never gonna happen, thats why i said there needs to be some protections in place, not so strict that corporations can abuse it, but strict enough to make sure that if someone creates something they can still live a comfortable life should it see success.

[restive current]

But...abusing things = the job of corporations... 😆

This is why I feel companies should be limited in size and beyond a certain size, they should be split up with no common people and no communication between them.

Like...Google should be broken up into a million different companies and their net worth divided among all of them equally.

Balance the playing field.

[winter yew]

well i mean its up to the discretion of a person, a judge should look at a case where nintendo is trying to entirely ruin a dudes life because they went a little heavy on the zelda modding, and throw that shit out right away, simple as that.

[restive current]

'Should'...but...real world.

And let's not forget paid-off judges and judiciary...

However, Nintendo's lawyers stated Team Xecutor had caused the company "damages greater than $65m" due to spending time updating hardware to deter piracy.```

Make $320,000. Get charged for $65 million.

And yet, the deal to pay off Nintendo is legal, so apparently...the judge thinks it's pretty fine.

Hah...

"I always tell the jurors, 'Your role is not to send a message. Your role is to decide guilt or innocence on the facts'," Judge Lasnik said. "But my role sometimes does entail sending a message."```

The judge themselves...would rather let the person die...than actually follow the law.

So much for your 'should', Flanker.

[orchid fox]

Just wow

[restive current]

From this article, BTW.

At the end.

The guy got let out for 'good behaviour' while having failing health.

Wonder what their standards are.

[orchid fox]

@weak tiger @coarse swift one of the things i despise about d2 comp yes im a very blueberry levels of skill but i loose 1 round of comp and most matches theres that one teammate committing suicide in survival making us loose entire match by forcibly removing all our lives at start of match

happened thice in my placement rounds

then he tells me to get out of comp

[restive current]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/971797817813266442/1094691557069815949/NFS11_2023-04-09_23-59-09-646.png

[orchid fox]

which game?

[restive current]

NFS Hot Pursuit.

[dry copper]

Sounds like Storm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SRjDcyadiU

[snow zenith]

Almost there

[orchid fox]

ive finished entire main star chart i need to finish fucking steel path which i am not equipped to do yet

[sonic sonnet]

Whats this?🤔

[orchid fox]

warframe stat tracker for star chart

completion

[winter yew]

nothing I've read here changes my opinion, copyright law sucks right now, it heavily tilts in the favor of massive corporations, doesn't mean its not needed entirely, people whom have their work plagiarized by others can attest to that pretty well, in the real world normal people also have to make money too, if we can just steal each others shit as we please then that fucks the creators over just as much as Nintendo did this guy. which is what I was saying, that copyright law is shit the way it is right now, but its still absolutely needed in some capacity.

[restive current]

I was saying more in relation to your 'a judge should look at it'.

[dry copper]

Ya know. It's the galactic widget nexus relay for progression in the vogon bureaucracy.

[restive current]

Keeping him in prison was signed by a judge, at the expense of his failing health.

[dry copper]

Bit of a stretch. He has a leg condition. his life is not in jeopardy.

[winter yew]

yea, a judge should be legally forced to look at a stupid case such as this, and throw it out right away, this judge was able to do that cause he doesn't have to have any personal accountability in regards to the decisions he makes, however if copyright law was changed to say, for example, that if a product is no longer manufactured, or the entity which owns the intellectual property is clearly making enough money that tampering with their product wouldn't hurt their business in any way, then people should be able to use it how they want, then none of this would have happened in the first place because what he did would have been completely legal

i read the full article, known about this story for a few days, it was a dick move of him to say that sometimes his role ends up being sending a message, but i dont see how it implies he was paid off

i think hes just a shitty judge, but even a shitty judge cant convict you of following the law

[dry copper]

A judge has discretion at a sentencing hearing. If you break the law where mandatory sentencing exists, the judge has very little discretion to lower your sentence if there's no prior agreement with the prosecution.

[restive current]

That's not the point. How do you prioritize 'sending a message' (that doesn't even matter, but that's another topic) over actually providing medical care?

Are prisoners not supposed to have medical care for them?

[dry copper]

They do have it

He's refusing it

He has refused vaccination three times.

[winter yew]

i dont know what any of this has to do with why copyright law should or shouldnt exist though

[restive current]

It doesn't imply he was paid off, I'm just saying...that he practically doesn't care either. He'd rather watch someone sick than just take care of the people convicted.

[winter yew]

i was just commenting on the situation in regards to the shitty things nintendo does to their customers

[restive current]

That's, uh...pain. 😖

[dry copper]

Beggers don't get to be choosers and then complain that the menu doesn't match their vegan tastes in the gutter.

[restive current]

And yet, people will still buy from Nintendo.

[restive current]

I'll disagree there.

[restive current]

It's all about control, though...

'It might be extinct, but it's our right, and we'll enforce it!'

[dry copper]

Nintendo is a horrible company that's just getting worse every year, even not considering the way they treat their fans.

[winter yew]

yea, they will, doesnt mean they should get away with their shit, copyright law should protect smaller creators more than large businesses, and i suggested 2 ways it could do so without going away completely

[restive current]

Personally, it has to go away, but you and I both know...nothing's going to happen.

[dry copper]

Copyright law protects copyright owners regardless

[restive current]

That news will bite the dust and things will go on no matter what.

Nintendo will keep making money, people will buy from them, shitty copyright laws will keep existing...

[dry copper]

Smaller creators that violate copyright law don't get copyright protection

[restive current]

No changes.

[restive current]

They should be limited to how long they can own something.

That's how Disney became what it is today...by having no limits.

[dry copper]

They do as long as they don't create something new with it.

70 years

[restive current]

Everything should be forced into public domain after 1 or 2 years.

And there should be legal means for people to directly send money to creators if they feel like supporting them.

Copyright is just a band-aid, and a bad one at that.

[winter yew]

just cause nothing will happen doesnt mean im not going to look at logical solutions that benefit the common man either way, cause its important to remember that there is a solution regardless of whether you can do anything about it or not, nintendo is making crappy business decision by doing these things, it will catch up with them eventually

[restive current]

I'm agreeing with you, I'm just saying that in reality...it'll remain the fuck-up it is. Both of us would like things to change, but unfortunately...the more the money, the more the wins.

If you can afford to hire a lawyer for longer than the other party...you win.

[winter yew]

well, again, thats got nothing to do with copyright law, thats a different matter entirely, and it has to do with slapp suits

[dry copper]

Look at it from a different perspective. Nintendo wouldn't be this visceral if it weren't hurt by the numbers. That they are hurt says something about their business...Which suggests, at least to me - These are the death-throes of a dying IP

[restive current]

Yea, but laws or not, everything gets settled in the courts.

Whether you're right or wrong...it's still time wasted.

Changing laws won't change the crappy process.

[restive current]

Are they really hurt, though?

[dry copper]

Yes.

[restive current]

They're a corporation with a few billion in their pockets.

$300,000 isn't hurting them.

[dry copper]

Corporations don't look at profit on a cost/benefit spreadsheet. They base their entire business model on projected earnings over (in some cases) years, even decades

[winter yew]

but it will prevent the crappy process from beginning in the first place, these lawsuits work because nintendo has a case, if it was deemed that they made more than enough money that protecting their old IP was of no real value to them, then they wouldnt have a case

[restive current]

I guess that's true.

[dry copper]

If the guy had a decent lawyer they would've been able to use the case law on copyright infringement lawsuits to show demonstrable evidence that companies do not lose their projected earnings from piracy and are using piracy as a scape goat to suggest their profit losses are theft and not bad business

[winter yew]

it would be an entirely different story for someone whos entire livelihood depended on their IP

[dry copper]

Especially since copyright theft losses are theoretical and not actual...and this has already been established in case law

Nintendo however, like many corporations stake their futures on theoretical earnings and not actual

That's why they are on the stock exchange

It's aaaaall funny money

They don't get taxed for earnings on non existing profits

It's a huge scam

[restive current]

OK, he's the thing. The numbers from the article say they made $300,000 by 'pirating' (whatever that nonsense means). Nintendo claims damages in the range of $65 million.

So explain to me the mathematics.

Because even for a corporation...$64,700,000 is the same as $65,000,000.

[winter yew]

there is no 65 million, thats what hes saying, nintendo was full of shit when they said that

[dry copper]

First. The company pulled those numbers out of their asses. They are assessing the damages based on potential losses, due to projected earnings in a window of time against downloads/installations in the same time

[winter yew]

they are basing their entire lawsuit on theoretical copyright losses

[dry copper]

Their theories are all lies.

[restive current]

Exactly my point. It's not hurting the company, that's the whole thing I'm saying.

[dry copper]

Back in the early 2000s sony tried to do the same thing with music

[winter yew]

his lawyer didnt call them out for it, which was what got him into so much shit

[dry copper]

Sony got their shit pounded in because their numbers were all speculation

That's what happens when you take on Kim Dotcom

[restive current]

Sounds like either a shitty lawyer or an ignorant one.

[winter yew]

shitty lawyer, but my point in the end is that it shouldnt be legal that a company can make up some bullshit projected losses as an excuse to sue somebody into the ground when their livelihood was in no way affecting nintendos business

and the only thing affecting nintendo's business is nintendo themselves

they shouldnt even be allowed in court in the first place and if they try they should get fined

[restive current]

Shouldn't that be noticed by the judge and the jury, though?

[dry copper]

On the plus side, because it was not brought up as a point of contention, it is a grounds for appeal

[restive current]

If $65 million is an obviously ridiculous number, why did no one notice an question it? Forget the guy's lawyer.

[dry copper]

No. Don't forget the guys lawyer.

That's his job.

That's his only job

[restive current]

It's also the job of the jury and the judge.

[dry copper]

No it's not

[restive current]

They're not observers.

[winter yew]

no one questioned it because it was technically legal, and yea, agreed there, dont forget the guys lawyer

[dry copper]

A jury is literally your peers

[restive current]

I said that as a figure of speech.

[dry copper]

A jury judges based on what it's given and is not entitled to judge on more

Doing so is grounds for mistrial

[restive current]

From Merriam-Webster:

a body of individuals sworn to give a decision on some matter submitted to them. especially : a body of individuals selected and sworn to inquire into a question of fact and to give their verdict according to the evidence.
So...the verdict that $65 million is nonsensical a number.

Is that illegal?

[winter yew]

and im telling you, the reason it happened is because nintendo had a case, because they can sue someone based on the fact they might have lost 65 million in profits, which is wrong, that shouldnt be a thing they can bring up in court in the first place, along with a business as big as nintendo not being allowed to sue someone based on copyright grounds for doing something that couldnt have reasonably affected their business in any way

changing the law would kill the problem, period, doesnt matter what did happen in court, what happened in court sucks, changing the law would fix it

[restive current]

Can't disagree with that.

[dry copper]

The verdict is not up to the jury. They determine guilt, not sentencing...The only time a jury in most jurisdictions gets to address sentencing is if they find in their deliberation reason to increase a sentence

It's not like they got to change the charges

At the end of the day, he can appeal

[restive current]

I meant the jury's verdict...the jury calling Nintendo out on an obviously improbably figure of $65 million.

[restive current]

Hopefully.

[dry copper]

The jury doesn't get to call nintendo out

[restive current]

Or maybe...the judge and lawyer were purposefully set up to make him fall.

[restive current]

That's kind of not making sense. Is it not the job of the jury to analyze evidence and provide their own findings?

Like, "I looked at X and came to Y conclusion"?

[dry copper]

Their deliberation is inside of a bubble. In so far as the evidence is concerned, they're given the ingredients and told by someone how to bake the cake.

The experts can convince a jury some crazy shit

[restive current]

'Experts'...

[dry copper]

Yep

[restive current]

Oh, well...

[dry copper]

That's why prosecutors hire them. To convince a jury crazy shit

That's why a defense attorney is supposed to have either their own, or an argument to destroy the experts credibility

I don't know the details of this case though

[restive current]

So it's just a shoot-em-up on both sides where whoever reaches the truth/destroys the other side's truth first wins.

[pale trellis]

Apparently, some people already got their hands on the game jedi survivor

[restive current]

I truly hope the guy appeals and wins against Nintendo.

'Cause after this...I'd love to see them burn.

[dry copper]

I suspect he will appeal and the moment it looks like nintendo will need to save face, you'll hear about him getting released on some ridiculously long house arrest or some insanely lowered sentence and you won't hear about or from him ever again, because one of the conditions of his release will include a gag order.

[pale trellis]

Nintendo are one of the most evil companies that are legal

[dry copper]

But it depends on jurisdiction

Is this case in America?

If the case can't trip news media every year, dude will just disappear into the penal system.

Also, bonus: By his own words alone, this is the longest he has been sober since he was 15 years old.

Small blessings.

[pale trellis]

Who are you guys talkin about?

[winter yew]

Jeff Waddleduck.

Guy who got sued by Nintento and lost and will now be in permanent debt to them.

and also thrown in prison

[pale trellis]

Reminds me of gary bowser

Nintendo is being very agressive these last few years

[winter yew]

Yep, that's who we're talking about. Gary Bowser.

[pale trellis]

Oh alright.

[winter yew]

Which spurred this whole couple hour long discussion about Nintento's aggression and how it can be changed.

[pale trellis]

Didnt he like make profit on their hacked consoles

Doesnt sound exactly legal

[winter yew]

More than likely he did.

[pale trellis]

But yes, the 10 mil dollar debt is just stupid

[winter yew]

i support console modding, i dont think it should be illegal to tamper with your consoles, nor should you be prosecuted for selling modded consoles, you paid for them, at that point you should be allowed to do what you want with em. especially if the creator of the console is deliberately limiting what the hardware can do for you

the problem i have is when people pirate newer games

Problem is that Team Xecuter as a whole claimed that they earned around $20mil.
He was the only 1 of 3 that got charged.

older games i dont care, because they dont make them anymore, and people take heavy advantage of that to scalp old games and sell them for ridiculous prices as collectors items

[dry copper]

Waddleduck? wtf?

[winter yew]

I dunno, first name that came to my head.

i have a few soft modded consoles, and a couple ps2s with mod chips in them

i use em for emulation

and homebrew, cause people make games for modded consoles which is pretty cool

[pale trellis]

Welp yeah, but the law is the law

[dry copper]

I thought the case was against Gary Bowser

[winter yew]

yea, we were just having a long discussion about how ridiculous it is that nintendo can get away with just doing that to a person though, i was saying the law should change

[pale trellis]

Yeah sony is kinda chill about it

[dry copper]

I mean, nintendo claimed 65 million but the court I think found him guilty of 14.5 m

[pale trellis]

True

[pale trellis]

That is stupid indeed

[winter yew]

i dont have a modded switch myself but my dad figured out how to mod it himself without tutorials, which is insane

and i mean the utility it has is amazing

[pale trellis]

But hey, the new zelda game is gonna be awesome

[pale trellis]

You can only do it with v1 switches i think

[dry copper]

Nintendo is going to create a counter culture by shitting on the freedom of their own fans to use the hardware they purchased for personal use.

[pale trellis]

And you have to use jailbreak and stuff like that through the sd card

[winter yew]

playstations handhelds are better anyway, realistically speaking

[dry copper]

The funny thing is...Nintendo could have easily capitalized on this as an opportunity to sell modded systems themselves and if piracy is a concern, address that...Not the machine. Piracy is mostly an accessibility issue.

[pale trellis]

Meanwhile Valve: here have a pricy handheld but put linux on it if you want idc i already got ur money lol

[winter yew]

or just dont require modding to open up what a device can do in the first place, just sell it as an embedded computer

i need a steam deck, i dont know what utility it would have to me though

i dont go on road trips often, dont leave the house

steam deck strikes me as a product for people who are on the move a lot

[pale trellis]

Honestly, its pretty useless for a couch potato like me

[winter yew]

i have my old handhelds hacked for nostalgia purposes and going back to play older games, but thats about it, unless a steam deck is good for that i dont see the point

got a perfectly good full size pc right here

[dry copper]

I can understand the issue of geography where sanctions are a concern, selling software and hardware but the solution isn't consumer level like nintendo treats it...That's retailer level. The failure of a country to police their own tech is their failure...and something that should not be borne on everyone else in the world by companies making their technology harder to integrate with. Not surprising though, given how big the market is for tech theft in Japan

They have entire shopping malls of independent retailers ripping off tech

It's kind of amusing. In Ontario we have those indie tech constores too...walk in on a sunday to these make shift marketplaces where tech wizards are selling knocked off modded stuff and beside them is some guy selling antique coins, and beside him some dude is selling hotdogs...and across from him you can buy old GI-JOE toys, and beside that guy there's a person painting pictures of marvel characters for profit...

You can buy new t-shirts from some third world country, turn around and then buy a home made forged knife

Go down the aisle and get yourself a VHS player and a copy of Cocoon

[winter yew]

Damn I ain't reading all that

[dry copper]

That's okay. It's mostly just lorem ipsum malarky

"Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit..." ("There is no one who loves pain itself, who seeks after it and wants to have it, simply because it is pain...") - Cicero, "De finibus bonorum et malorum"

[orchid fox]

@idle saffron jedi survivor need 150gb open space

lol

[dry copper]

Is that out yet?

3 days

[orchid fox]

no some days left just as per twitter

[dry copper]

Is it a true survival game or is it just called survivor as a cash grab?

[orchid fox]

tldr related to first game

god forbid star wards survival game

[dry copper]

"Jedi power....WATER"

[orchid fox]

jedi power conjures water

[dry copper]

Avatar be all like...DONE THAT

The jedi would need to focus the moisture in one spot, create condensate, then purify it by boiling the condensate that was pulled out of the atmosphere, and finally trickle it into a glass...Jedi would probably feel like a water cow at that point.

No wonder luke loved blue milk

[idle saffron]

Eeeeeee

[orchid fox]

im as caught offguard as u

lol

[winter yew]

working on some mods in empyrion right now, working on a hybrid weapon

in atmosphere its an anti tank guided missile launcher

in space an anti ship missile launcher

[dry copper]

Imagine this....
Cal Kestis, appearance in The Mandalorian

[orchid fox]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/destiny-2/arknights-collab EXCUSE ME WHAT THE SHIT @snow zenith @weak tiger

i cant fucking breathe

lol

[dry copper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ttHZGCa-f8

[coarse swift]

https://www.reddit.com/r/destiny2/comments/12x0dlm/i_want_these_from_the_arknights_collab_not_waifus/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

If D2 is getting anything out of the collab, there's some really good potential

[snow zenith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrWoHmBntTw

[tame cairn]

UnderTheWillowTree

[sleek cloud]

KCD?

[tame cairn]

Yes

[snow zenith]

Yea I recognise that willow

[sleek cloud]

of course it is. One of my favourite games of all time 🙂

[tame cairn]

I only played it a bit, never finished so I’m doing it now

[sleek cloud]

it's well worth the full playthrough. Can't wait for the next

[tame cairn]

I just learned how to read lol

[sleek cloud]

(been a long wait!!)

[tame cairn]

I didn’t even know they were gonna be making another

Is it gonna be the same time?

Place?

well i could just look it up

😅

[sleek cloud]

not sure and dare not say anyting in case i spill a spoiler or something 😄

[tame cairn]

true

yooo

this game is nuts lol

limpy lubosh

[sleek cloud]

remember to wash if you're gonna be stealthy

[tame cairn]

Does washing make me more stealthy? lol

[dry copper]

smell

[sleek cloud]

your smell could give you away

[dry copper]

"I can smell you" - Morgan Freeman

[tame cairn]

lol what

thats weird

[sleek cloud]

also clothing will affect stealth too

[dry copper]

both color and weight

and also having too much gear...doesn't it jingle?

junk I mean

[sleek cloud]

ye material too, lighter the better

[tame cairn]

“we’re outside..” “smells like outdoors, watch out thats a person!”

[sleek cloud]

you can smell an unwashed dirty human from a few metres away in some cases 😄

[tame cairn]

i cant really say

[sleek cloud]

that pungent smell of body oder wafting through the air

[dry copper]

the poopy pants

[tame cairn]

i dont think ive smelled someone who hasnt taken a shower, but i dont go out much anyways

[dry copper]

the peepee pants

[tame cairn]

realistically i dont try to sniff the air around people

someone might think thats a bit weird

i think i would too

[dry copper]

When you smell people you don't forget the smell of people.

[sleek cloud]

we had an agency worker come in for some temporary work and we had send him home the same day because of how badly he smelt

[tame cairn]

the armor thing makes sense ngl

just the smell one is a bit weird

unless its like an animal youre sneaking up on

[dry copper]

Humans are animals

[tame cairn]

youd probably have to sit there for a while before a human could actually smell that

unless the wind is like 30 mph

[dry copper]

In KCD you're in an environment where people do not bathe, for the most part.

Body odour, the smell of poor hygiene...of all sorts...permeates

Infections have smells

[tame cairn]

exactly so smelling something bad isnt out of the ordinary

[tame cairn]

and once again this

[dry copper]

You don't become numb to the smell of people

They all have different chemistry

[tame cairn]

ok sorry

this

again

[dry copper]

I can smell on the air when the flowers are in blossom

Then the lilacs start blossoming

[tame cairn]

Lol

[dry copper]

When the humans start blossoming

That pungent stank

It stings

[sleek cloud]

it is sickly and hard to be ignored

[dry copper]

It is offensive

[sleek cloud]

slight body odor is fine but from some people it's just too overwhelming

[dry copper]

There are some people with such a strong offensive smell that it can make you spontaneously vomit

[sleek cloud]

lol close to it yep, like the agency worker we sent home

[dry copper]

The gag reflex is like...NOPE

[sleek cloud]

thing is he didn't even look grubby or anything but within 2 metres of him you just got this awful smell

[dry copper]

Probably had an oral infection or something

[tame cairn]

jeez, if i ever met someone that smells that bad im literally telling them to take a shower

wtf

[sleek cloud]

possibly, after several complaints as he was working in close proximity he was let off early

[dry copper]

Here's the thing. Some people produce that smell and there's nothing they can do to stop it.

[primal loom]

I've been defiled 😭

[tame cairn]

well if its an infection like you were talking about yea

[sleek cloud]

also feet can get really bad! I worked with an ex proboxer who pretty much lived in trainers all his life and it just destroyed his feet

[tame cairn]

my friend had an infection on his gums or something i forget what it was, puffed up his whole cheek pretty much and it stunk

feet are understandably smelly

[dry copper]

There's a condition you can get in the back of your throat after removing tonsils that create these pockets which fill with food that rots and becomes disgusting balls of gunk...you can't remove yourself or calcified balls in your salivary glands....need surgery to fix the condition

[tame cairn]

its feet

[dry copper]

It's gross and the balls when they burst are gross smelling and tasting

Not that I've tasted them or had the condition. I learned about it on the internet

sialolith

[sleek cloud]

this guys feet was something different altogether. He would have to buy new work boots every 3 months or so due to how much sweat would just end up rotting the boot and no lie, he would take his boots off for a check because we had to go through metal detectors and the smell would linger for a good hour.

security hated it when he arrived 😄

[dry copper]

Dorito feet

I can't eat dorito chips anymore. They smell to me, like stinky feet.

[sleek cloud]

lol

i love Doritos 😄

[tame cairn]

cool ranch only for me

and thats only sometimes

[sleek cloud]

chili heatwave

[dry copper]

Chocolate doritos sound like an interesting combo

Ya know what i like to do to fuck with youtube. Watch a video 2/3 the way through...then just leave that page and never return...or if I do, only watch that video 2/3 the way

It fucks with the analytics for the video

[snow zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/speechless-nathan-fillion-castle-stumped-gif-5469000

[winter yew]

Damn, I'm about to finish Chorus. 😔

[idle saffron]

Big fight sequence!

[winter yew]

I'm just gunna missile myself with rite of the star and then throw ships at other ships.
That's my game plan at the minute.

May change in the next couple minutes.

[dry dirge]

I installed Chorus on game pass

forgot to play it

[idle saffron]

Remember now!

[winter yew]

I played it a while back and couldn't work with the controls but after Gleam threatened me to try it again, I did.
I got used to the controls this time around and I'm converted, I'd like similar control layout in other space games.

[idle saffron]

Don't watch where you drift eh

Watch what you want to shoot

[winter yew]

Watch where I'm shooting.

Definitely that.

It works very well.

[idle saffron]

After playing that for a bit, I went to NMS and was very confused for a minute

WHY ARE MY FINGERS DOING THIS?!

Silly muscle memory takes longer to switch

[winter yew]

[coarse swift]

Digital memory

[idle saffron]

analog here

[coarse swift]

Fingers are digits

[idle saffron]

They are more than just numbers to me

[dry copper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN2dcsx7mJA

[pale trellis]

i found a quite true meme that suits the conversation about nintendo we had earlier, i sent it in memes

[winter yew]

Damn, I completed Chorus. 😕

[dry dirge]

Then play it again???

[winter yew]

GOOD fucking idea.

[dry dirge]

I'm giving it a try rn

[winter yew]

Go play galaxy on fire 2 now

Same developer

[dry copper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDFBTdToRmw

[winter yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk6cDtVk8uY theyre making a sequel for sins of a solar empire, 15 fucking years later

i am so god damn excited for this holy shit

i LOVE sins of a solar empire, its so good

[snow zenith]

that's one game I didn't expect would get a sequel

nive tho

Nice

[worn jacinth]

heh nice

[winter yew]

one game i didnt expect, but a game that absolutely deserves a sequel

it sounds like they even brought back the voice actors, the faction leaders sound exactly the same

literally the greatest thing to ever come out of canada

our crowning achievement as a country

[dry copper]

This is so awesome and weird. I got a new apartment in Shadows and it was in a basement, which I needed to get into via ventilation because the person that gave me the place didn't give me a key...SO, I got in...I stank to high heaven and couldn't afford a tub...YEAH, I gotta buy my own furniture etc...

So I start my second case stank af. I go to the crime scene, can't get in...fine. I figure I'll sneak in through a vent. I bribe a couple to let me into their unit above the crime scene and get into their vents to go down a floor into the crime scene vents...

THE GUARDS AT THE CRIME SCENE THINK THERE ARE RATS IN THE WALL BECAUSE IT STINKS SO MUCH THEY ARE PUKING!

I had to take a break because holy shit, I did not see that curve ball...smell detection.

[primal loom]

WOO

[winter yew]

i have such pride for this game, it was made in my province

ironclad games, theyre canadian, based in a city near me, they made their own engine in house

and just casually dropped the greatest strategy game to ever exist

and they havent made a single game since, until now

drops the greatest strategy game ever made, refuses to elaborate further for 15 years

announces sins 2

[primal loom]

The Return of the King

[winter yew]

forget maple syrup, forget poutine, and forget the lav 3

this is what i want you all to remember my country for

[primal loom]

So exciting

I had a ton of fun with the first one

[dry copper]

Forget free healthcare. Forget the underground railroad. Forget NORAD....VIDEO GAME!!

[winter yew]

sounds bad, but this a damn good game bro

revolutionary even id say

pretty sure 4x RTS didnt exist before sins

[dry copper]

I'm just yanking your chain

[winter yew]

the kol battleship, i main vasari but yea, the kol battleship is like the face of this series

times of war are upon us

and i bet the ships in the background are the new javelis LRM frigates

missile frigate spam is fun

its even more fun if you play as the vasari cause you can get upgrades that make your missiles pass through shields

so if youre playing against a player who loves to corvette spam, or anyone using the advent cause their ships are mostly shield

dead, no chance

[primal loom]

The ol' Cylon battle doctrine

[winter yew]

works every time

[supple arrow]

anyone play DOTA 2 or LOL?

[coarse swift]

I would rather sit in a traffic jam for 5 hours

[austere lance]

Today I craft my magician boi, lol

[dry dirge]

I love him so much

[austere lance]

I'm still slowly working my way through Equinox, I have 3/4 Night Aspect parts done and like two Day Aspect parts

[weak tiger]

ngl i havent done shit to get new frames lol

Citrine will be my first actually new one except for one I just crafted whose name I completely forgot

[austere lance]

I have Loki, Titania Prime, Gauss, Volt, Ember, Frost, Rhino, and Octavia. All of those except Volt Frost and Rhino were from Twitch drops or Prime Gaming 😆

After I finish my Equinox grind I'm gonna go for Wukong, cuz Monkey King go brrrrrrr

[snow zenith]

Leveling my last frame for today

then I'm all set for Duviri tomorrow

[weak tiger]

I think it was Vauban I just built? I have a bunch of scattered parts. I need to check which ones I actually got lol. I want Garuda Prime

I belieeeve I have Wisp, Volt, Protea, Titania Prime, Banshee, and Styanax

[snow zenith]

Wukong is fun

Might get Prime and build him later

[dry dirge]

Oh right, it's tommorow

I haven't done the main quest yet

[snow zenith]

You don't have to

[dry dirge]

o

[weak tiger]

I’ve done fuck all questing but maybe this weekend

[hollow violet]

Sup everyone

update time

The sanctuary at night

and day

Phidias' Workshop and the later housing complex built around it

The workshop is the left most beige structure

[dry dirge]

Nice

[hollow violet]

From above

I know some of the buildings are angled but I chose to ignore those so I could build more detail without the burden of having to slant the walls

[austere lance]

Second Dream?

[dry dirge]

I did that

but

Not the next one yet

[balmy plaza]

I hope there's a chance to start over with it

[tame cairn]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=L6496GgMF6g&feature=share

[primal loom]

Congrats 🥳

[rotund cosmos]

YALL READY FOR JEDI SURVIVOR????

[idle saffron]

YES

[primal loom]

@idle saffron and @finite hazel are hype

[idle saffron]

YESYESYES

[rotund cosmos]

ME TOOOOOO

[primal loom]

Weeeee

[rotund cosmos]

Waiting for my check tomorrow so I can preorder

[idle saffron]

Playing Dead Island 2 in the meantime

[rotund cosmos]

Saw a video with the Cal Actor asking the big question

Where poncho

[rotund cosmos]

Same.

[rotund cosmos]

Who are you playing as?

[idle saffron]

I'm Carla

[rotund cosmos]

Ooooh. The other tank

[idle saffron]

She is a monster

Lol

[tame cairn]

nice

[rotund cosmos]

I'm playing Ryan. And man missile kicking zombies is fun

[idle saffron]

Yesss

[rotund cosmos]

I'm at the Santa Carla motel now

No spoilers from meeeese

Curb stomping my way to victory

[idle saffron]

Saint Carla?!

[rotund cosmos]

Close enough

[idle saffron]

Lol

[rotund cosmos]

Is Santa now

[idle saffron]

So much fun

It's so gruesome

[rotund cosmos]

Duuude the gore alone

Seeing the brain jiggle like jelo

[primal loom]

Too intense for me

[rotund cosmos]

Or the eyeballs popped out from a blunt weapon heavy

[idle saffron]

I took a little slice off a skull earlier - it blows my mind how accurate the wounds are

[rotund cosmos]

Seeing anatomically correct intestines, femurs being broken

[idle saffron]

Nuts

I'm sure loads won't be able to play it, it's crazy

[rotund cosmos]

It is NOT for the faint of heart

That means... All the YouTube demonization

[idle saffron]

Yeah

[rotund cosmos]

Pretty sure Germany also doesn't like it either...

[idle saffron]

I'm sure a few countries won't allow it

Only no gore for @primal loom

[primal loom]

Dang

That could almost be a photograph

[idle saffron]

That's the sword I was going for

[primal loom]

Zappy

[rotund cosmos]

Man, that quest frustrated me so hard

It says only in Beverly Hills buuuuuut

You know

[tame cairn]

making me want to get it

[idle saffron]

I didn't notice the damn key drop, so I was roaming around Bel air looking for a truck or something from the dude

Then I checked inventory

[rotund cosmos]

Nice

I now started hunting the special zombies

[idle saffron]

Weeeee

[rotund cosmos]

I am the bane of Crushers

Absolutely disrespecting them

[idle saffron]

Lol good

[rotund cosmos]

Chem bomb and electric star goes hard

[idle saffron]

I dunno what electric star is but I like hitting things with my acid hammer

[rotund cosmos]

It's a curve ball you'll get later on

[idle saffron]

Sweet

[rotund cosmos]

Favorite weapons so far are brass knuckle types and fast swinging stuff. Can stack the damage then hear the crit sound repeatedly until they stop moving

[primal loom]

@weak tiger This is Garbanzo, my new robo-pupper on Warframe

[idle saffron]

Full size!

[rotund cosmos]

Favorite weapons?

Garbanzo is big!

[primal loom]

Mini size

[rotund cosmos]

Oh nevermind

[idle saffron]

Sledge and Claymore

And drop kick

[primal loom]

They can split into 3 smol pups during missions lol

[rotund cosmos]

I've only found 1 claymore... Was so fun to use

[idle saffron]

Ayyyyy

[rotund cosmos]

String beans???

[primal loom]

Yess

Vicious little guys lmao

[weak tiger]

BABYYYYY

[primal loom]

Finishing up their build before the big update tomorrow

eeee

so excited

[idle saffron]

Horsie Update

[primal loom]

Duviri Paradox has been a long time coming

[rotund cosmos]

Gleam, have you got to the point you started kicking random corpses just in case and or dropkicking the ones on benches?

[idle saffron]

I started there friend

[rotund cosmos]

Just imagine if you witnessed that

[weak tiger]

I can’t wait for new warframe update so I can be even more behind

[rotund cosmos]

Going out scavenging, seeing some person run full speed and drop kick a corpse

[idle saffron]

Lol

I'd try for a team up

[rotund cosmos]

I'll wait until you get a wee bit further in the game.

I'm sitting at lvl 21 right now

[idle saffron]

I just got to Venice Beach

[rotund cosmos]

I'm on the pier

[weak tiger]

@primal loom also! i forget if i tagged you or not but we’re planning on playing Human Fall Flat on steam :). are you able to play it on steam?

[rotund cosmos]

Ooooooo fun game!

[primal loom]

Yes

[rotund cosmos]

Copper update!

[primal loom]

When we playing?

[weak tiger]

Heck yes!! are you open the weekend after this weekend?

[primal loom]

Looking good for now :)

[primal loom]

Yo you went on vacation and didn't take me?

[weak tiger]

awesome! i’m so excited

[idle saffron]

You are welcome, but you might want to have something to hide your eyes

[primal loom]

lol

[rotund cosmos]

Are there blindfolds?

[primal loom]

Gekfold

[idle saffron]

I'm sure I have some

[rotund cosmos]

Oh... Nose plugs too

[idle saffron]

They did say that a bodybuilding competition had just started when the zombies outbreak started

[rotund cosmos]

It cannot be smelling too good right now

[idle saffron]

I'm thinking I'll have a bunch of Crushers to chat with

[idle saffron]

At all

[rotund cosmos]

Basically

[rotund cosmos]

My fingers, are still

[rotund cosmos]

It has itty bitty canines. So adorable

[primal loom]

Them smol teefers

[rotund cosmos]

Like a kitten teeth

[balmy plaza]

Really enjoying dead island 2

Best zombie combat I've played

[rotund cosmos]

Its up there in the best zombie games

[tame cairn]

awesome

now i really want it

[dry copper]

Played Dying Light 2?

That's not me throwing shade. I'm genuinely interested in how you'd see them compared if you'd played both

I've seen a number of comparisons, some shallow, some in depth

[rotund cosmos]

I've seen Dying Light comparisons

[dry copper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DXtPM0r3Jk

NumNumCat

[tame cairn]

seems better than DL2 just from videos of me waitching DI2

I’ve played dying light 2 though

[tame cairn]

also this video is kinda funny

about the dying light 2 update

[rotund cosmos]

Best music video in a long time

The vocals get a bit cliché for me tho

[dry copper]

I like the electric guitar

[dry copper]

Happiness and the fish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU9intXxNPc

[analog harness]

:)

[winter yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbrqOUtnnWI i keep finding really good versions of this

bringing multi locks on that one mission in project wingman where youre surrounded by civilian airships

[jagged ether]

played roblox doors yesterday, didnt have heart attack this time

in door 50 (with figure) i collected all figures for lock code, but i got

that made me very angry

[snow zenith]

mah crew

[austere lance]

I am the angry beetle, lol

[restive current]

https://www.eurogamer.net/metacritic-improving-moderation-after-abusive-disrespectful-horizon-forbidden-west-burning-shores-reviews

[orchid fox]

Ok when we say abuse are we talking death/violence threats? Or worse

Oh implied gay made riot

Tbh im fine with it if the devs made character preference a grey area but lets say they had a preference established and makes a complete uno reverse that i will question (but then again i have played neither horizon one or two)

So cant comment

It may be a hottake but its my opinion

[snow zenith]

Duviri today

Got everything ready to start, just went in and did today's Sortie before it drops

[orchid fox]

Please just dont have some stupid mastery requirement

[restive current]

I haven't played Forbidden West and DLC due to being locked on console...and IDK if I'll ever be able to due to my PC.

[orchid fox]

I mean feel free to call me offensive for the opinion im just not fine with be it cartoons or games spontaneously changing whats already been heavily established for decades

Also ye the specs req will be prob heavy

What even is the specs req for horizon one

[snow zenith]

Why would it

It's literally going to be an option for new players to start at Duviri

[restive current]

It's locked to Playstation right now.

So there's no requirements, currently.

Or, at least I don't have enough knowledge of computer parts to make an equivalent list for PC.

[orchid fox]

Ok heavier than expected

I speak of first horizon

On steam

[restive current]

Oh...

[orchid fox]

Not that heavy but still

[restive current]

Yea, first game is an unoptimized POS.

[orchid fox]

Ye i wont buy it given how fucking broken it is and ive seen digital foundrys vid

[restive current]

TBH, not broken...just unoptimized.

[orchid fox]

Pc is superior control wise but FUCK me can devs do some actual bloody effort with optimizing for pc port

Most pc ports have horrendous performance be it denuevo or other things

[restive current]

PC, unfortunately, is an after-thought because of console users.

[orchid fox]

Yep

[restive current]

People buy consoles instead of a similarly-priced mid-end PC, and hence, those people are the cause of PC getting the shaft.

[orchid fox]

Which is wierd cuz doesnt pc in general have biggest marketshare?

[restive current]

Office, yes.

Then would be higher-end work-stations, like the ones used for 3D rendering and animation and such.

[orchid fox]

Which saddens me

[restive current]

It does, but can't control people to help them make the right choices, eh?

[orchid fox]

But i wont rant

[restive current]

As for this...I don't ever blame anyone. Personally, I don't like LGBT stuff in games, though I don't mind romances.

But, in this case, both GG and fan-base are wrong.

Fan-bases are usually rabid...so many reviews saying, "Aloy is a woman who needs to save the world, she's got no time for romance."...and I'm like 'what kind of moronic logic is that?'...

How can people be so thick-headed? Except they got thicker skulls than one can imagine.

[orchid fox]

Im fine with lgbt just uknow dont force a character change spontaneous for ”todays standard whats good” when stuff have already been established. Am i making sense?

[restive current]

Yea, I got it.

That's where GG's wrong.

There was no natural progression to the romance...just something shoe-horned.

[orchid fox]

Ye seems like

Also if ur gonna make romance at least do good writing with progression to it

Dont just snap a finger and now they kiss

Its story game for god sake

Do actual story

Dou idk how late in story they meet

[restive current]

Especially considering it's a sandbox game.

[orchid fox]

Yep

[restive current]

Not even a 2-hour linear game where you have to compress everything.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-5/horizon-forbidden-west-burning-shores/user-reviews?sort-by=date&num_items=100&dist=negative

All reviews there.

[orchid fox]

Oof

[restive current]

1000+ negative vs. 670 positive.

[orchid fox]

Ok that is overkill even for the gaming community

[restive current]

Let's be real, no one likes it when DLCs force a political agenda down our throats. It can seriously harm the quality of the game and leave players feeling disconnected. I mean, c'mon, when we pay for a DLC, we expect it to improve our gaming experience, not push someone's political viewpoint! W.O.K.E

One of the reviews.

[orchid fox]

Most times i snap at games isnt even cuz the games itself its mostly cuz the devs horrendous choices with stuff or spontaneous changes of whats been established in series

Example ark 1 remake among other things

[restive current]

I totally get that.

[orchid fox]

I reviewed linking archive to his tweet

[restive current]

this game does not deserve normal player who just want to search fun from game to spend money to buy it.```
Another review.

[orchid fox]

The whole ”ye ark 1 port to ue5 will be free upgrade” tweet over haöf a year ago despite devs doubling down and shit HAS STILL not been deleted from@his thread @restive current

Which i say the spine of this man

[restive current]

Damn...

Must've probably forgotten to remove tweet.

[orchid fox]

Hes co founder and he lied out of his ass

Or snailgames publisher said to him back off and charged for it anyway

[restive current]

Might be either.

[orchid fox]

I dont take tge excuse its incapable to be ported to ue 5 with all assets existing in ue4 when ue IS MADE for porting cuz thats some bullshit excuse to charge us a speculated 120 euro and then 70 euro for ark 2 standalone that no longer is in bundle

Which is bullshit cuz the ASSETS already existing and can be ported we are charged for again and dont even get it at launched

Its salted over time til ark 2 release 2024…

Which is complete incompetemce

Mate u already have the assets just port it to ue5 and add tech u promised

[restive current]

Exactly. Everything can be ported.

[orchid fox]

Why charge us and add it over time

[restive current]

And isn't UE supposed to be compatible with previous generations?

[orchid fox]

Yes

Which they are blatantly lying out of their ass

Biggest offense is saves wont carry over

So most official and unofficial players is already terminating their shit