nms-modding

[merry wasp]

oh well worries for 2morrow

[lime mesa]

It updated when I was in the owner’s server

[waxen cedar]

what are "UpgradedUsers"

there's an empty array for that in save data

[vale iron]

BSG Pegasus custom freighter mod uploaded:
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2151

[lime mesa]

Hey gumsk, I saw ur the only one on the nexus with egg mods, was wondering if you knew how to remove the condition requirements for egg laying. Like, have the game not check for anything, just always spit out an egg

bc I messed with the lua of the companion mod and got this result

[waxen cedar]

I guess tou can just use save editor to set the creatures home biome to "All"

[lime mesa]

How would I go about doing that?

It's not on my roster

If anything I want all eggs/companions to be "all" biome

[waxen cedar]

it's right there in save editor

[lime mesa]

I need the companion in a companion slot for that to work

[waxen cedar]

well all you can do is make the companion do so

that would most likely make their egg to have a "all biome" child too

[lime mesa]

I sadly dont have it as a companion on my roster

[waxen cedar]

Well you can hatch it and then use the save editor to make the pet "all biome"

then every egg that pet lays will be all biome and so on

[lime mesa]

I need an egg for it

its hard to explain

[merry wasp]

@leaden coyote https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2123

[lime mesa]

Could you get me one of those worms for an egg?

[lethal dagger]

Is there a save editor for 3.75

[fallow meadow]

Both NMSSE and NomNom work with 3.75. Any specific reason you are asking?

[lime mesa]

Ya

[lethal dagger]

Nvm the creator of the save editor lmk i couldnt use it cause he hadnt updated for ps4 but now he can

[fallow meadow]

And which save editor was that?

[lethal dagger]

Nomnom

The nms save editor give me a metadata error

So probably same issue

But i dont see why i cant convert a modded pc save

[fallow meadow]

Ok. And the error you get is that about Name Mapping?

[lethal dagger]

Metadata?

No i dont belive so

[fallow meadow]

So hang on ... you are trying to convert a modded PC save to PS4?

[lethal dagger]

No no just mod my ps4 save

But im sure i can convert a modded pc save they use the same file type

And ive added pc mods to skyrim and minecraft so i dont see why it wouldnt work here

I just need a pc save to test xd

[fallow meadow]

I am sort of lost on what you are actually trying to do here

[lethal dagger]

Mod my psr save for quick silver since i have to play offline

[fallow meadow]

But when you say 'modding', you actually mean editing, right?

[lethal dagger]

For save yes but i did infact see that theres nms mods so i guess eventually ill be doing both

If ps4 allows

Wich it should (hopefully)

[fallow meadow]

PS4 and actual modding, nope, not yet done by anyone and likely won't happen any time soon. Editing save, sure, with use of either Save Editor, together with Save Wizard

[lethal dagger]

Im jailbroken though im tat person

[fallow meadow]

Ah, that makes quite a diff

[lethal dagger]

I can open and edit any game files and create my own flcs ^^

But type i cannot

[fallow meadow]

Now when we stick to Save Editing, this should work fine with either Save Editor

[lethal dagger]

It needs to be updated so i can

[fallow meadow]

I can't verify that, but I honestly don;t see why it needs updating, unless this is about the Account Data instead of the Save Data. Unless new mapping is required for NomNom to do the job. NMSSE will work regardless of requiring update Name Mapping

For something as simple as QuickSilver, hex editing (with help of Save Wizard) should be easy too

[lethal dagger]

Save wizard works for ps4

But im jailbroken and broke so i use save mounter

Nom nom wil be soon patching it to use save mounter

Idk how to hex edit sadly but if i can get the qs name in the json file i can learn rq but scanning over my save i didnt see quick silver only rewards

[lethal dagger]

Where is quick silver in the .hg file

Also would you like to help me see if modding is possible for ps4 were gonna have to manually place the mod files

I guess i should say besides my personal goal id like to see for the ps community if we can use pc saves and if we can add mods

[fallow meadow]

PC saves can be used, as they can be converted to work without issue. Not letting myself in with modding PS4 as it involves jailbreaking. Nothing against that in itself, but I would not recommend anyone doing so

[lethal dagger]

No no i just need your pc knowledge ill take care of the jailbreak part and making a tut for other jaiobroken users

I dont have the pc game cause my pc cant run it lol

[fallow meadow]

Quicksilver is called 'Specials' and if not mapped, it would be called kn;

[lethal dagger]

Ty

Whats the path(s) for mods in nms

And could you toss me a fresh standard save

Thats all i need help on

Please

[round sinew]

game install dir/GAMEDATA/PCBANKS/MODS

[round sinew]

i don't have one, but i guess i could start one

[lethal dagger]

Awesome

[round sinew]

going for dinner now but

[lethal dagger]

I tried googling for one and came up with ps4 saves not pc lol

[shy grove]

@lethal dagger

Since jailbreaking can be used for legal and illegal reasons it is frowned upon by all device makers and all of them will void your warranty if you jailbreak your device and in the case of Playstation they will also ban you from using their online services.

[lethal dagger]

Cant use online services jailbroken

And everything im doing is legal no worries

Also my ps4 lost its warrenty 3 years ago

[shy grove]

mostly giving you the heads up since you mentioned this:

No no i just need your pc knowledge ill take care of the jailbreak part

[lethal dagger]

Im jailbroken im not asking anyone else to do it

I just need a pc save at this point

[gentle prism]

Is there a mod that speeds up surveying? Right now it takes forever to scan every item...

[merry wasp]

got on for faster text too

[waxen cedar]

https://youtu.be/bFkYyordkRo

is this long gone now? I was wondering if we could somehow bring it back?

Well the item for it did exists last year at least but I remember that I couldn't find a way to place it so I assumed it was just leftovers from a planned feature.

Just recently found out about it actually having had a function.

[lethal dagger]

Do mods just appear or is there another way to tepl you have em

[lethal dagger]

Youd need a jailbroken xbox

But technically yes you can bring it back i dont see why not

[lime mesa]

Awesome I’m ready whenever

[lime mesa]

I got two eggs do you prefer a type or just any one?

[lime mesa]

any

[lime mesa]

Okay what’s ur friend code?

[lime mesa]

Also can I pick a specific worm or do you only have one?

Theoretically speaking, if I wanted to make a mod, and it involved logging stats that the game already displays in Milestones - but I wanted to generate more on top, and compile it all into one place - would this be possible??

I was thinking a career summary, which could be saved as an additional file, simple size say XML? I have no clue on modding. To be honest I am not even sure I am capable.

The idea I had in mind was to have a comprehensive stat screen, everything in one place. I would possibly need to have a new menu to show it? Or redo the Milestones menu perhaps. I would like this idea to work for PD saves, so even if you get a game over, you could still view the saves accomplishments.

Hope that makes sense

Also something else important to note, when the game creates either save type, an update to the file would be required. So if you do a save reload, you don't keep ghosted stats. For the things I would need to calculate that the game doesn't store I mean. Sorry for the long text!!

[lime mesa]

I dm you

[hearty wasp]

if the functionality is yote there's nothing we can do

if it's just up to the objects then they prolly are still in the files and only need to be configured in the basebuilding objects table properly to be placed down

[hearty wasp]

sounds undoable in game

shit that can fetch data from memory like Cheat Engine may help with that, if they are not already saved in your saves

milestones should be in saves tho

either way, you're gonna prolly need an external tool to export any data

as for in-game milestone UI, I'm not familiar with, but there is a slim chance you can put more shit into it

it'll just be very difficult

[shut plover]

How do mods work?

[hearty wasp]

in what level

[shut plover]

Wdym

Im survival

In*

[hearty wasp]

if you mean on a code level they work the same as vanilla files

if you mean on a user level you put the mod files into a folder and they work

[shut plover]

Is there anyone someone could mod me?

Or is it self nodding

Modding

(Im also on ps4)

[hearty wasp]

you can't mod on consoles lul

get the game on Steam

[shut plover]

So only pc?

[hearty wasp]

unless you're content with editing saves

[shut plover]

Nah lol

[hearty wasp]

then get the game on Steam

[shut plover]

Can you get steam in ps4?

[hearty wasp]

no

[shut plover]

Ok

[lime mesa]

anyone here familiar with amumss?

I made a folder with content in it and Im trying to figure out how to get the game to use it

[hearty wasp]

you put the stuff in the extrafilestoinclude folder with proper fodler structure

and AMUMSS asks you if you wanna include em

[lime mesa]

Can I mod if im using the xbox gamepass on pc?

[fallow meadow]

Yes, see pin:
<#nms-modding message>

[hushed bronze]

Me sitting here learning about the starship racing feature for the first time like "nah instead of that we got protogek milking"

[lime mesa]

Well, that pleases me to know thanks! I thought I was gonna have to start learning mod haha

[hearty wasp]

never hurts to try

[lime mesa]

Na, if I cant implement my ideas, that would just frustrate me

Actually I dont even run mods

[waxen cedar]

I don't see any reason why not to have that. People could create pretty interesting races on planetary surface

[merry wasp]

well both player would need tho have the exact ship/mods otherwise races would be useless

[waxen cedar]

Not so sure about that one. People race with different exocrafts too and even if they have the same exo they probably have different manouverability and speed upgrades on them anyways

[bright oriole]

Any suggestions for popular mods that dont change gameplay? Essentially gfx mods

[hearty wasp]

Sean

[bright oriole]

What lol

[magic lava]

Lmao

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2054

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/968

[bright oriole]

Sick! So basically increases colour palette of skies?

Plus grass, plant, sand etc

[magic lava]

Yep

Check out his other mods also

And here is a bad ass ship mod

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1891

And a building mod to allow a lot more construction opportunities

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/367

Oh

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2036

[bright oriole]

Amazing ty, i was looking for exactly these kind of mods

These will work on gamepass version right?

[magic lava]

#nms-modding message

I know you can mod on gamepass, I'm steam though so no clue about details

But this should work https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1751

[bright oriole]

Ah perfect

[lime mesa]

how do i copy bases

[waxen cedar]

save editor has a back up button on the base section. You can use that to copy and the restore button to paste your base to another computer

[hearty wasp]

^

NMSC also does save backups now https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1879

[waxen cedar]

anyone know creature ID or descriptors for these things?

or their original form of blue jellyfish

[vale iron]

I can get you one of their IDs in a couple of hours, but those don't always match up with pet IDs, if that's what you're trying to do. It probably won't have any descriptors, since there's no variety in them.

[waxen cedar]

I would really appreciate that

also the security drones in derelicts too if you can

[lethal dagger]

Anyone interested in helping me see if pc mods can be converted to ps4 i have a jailbroken ps4 and what not just no knowledge of how to make mods nor a pc capable of running nms

[vale iron]

There shouldn't be any conversion needed. You just need access to the file system and put the mods in a PCBANKS\MODS folder

I haven't seen the PS file structure though, so I don't know for sure

[lethal dagger]

Is it ok to show you in pm that way i dont spam chat, its different and so far where ive placed them m9ds have given me a black screen but usually your right its a drag n drop

Atleast start screen was black with audio

@vale iron

[vale iron]

Yeah you can send me a message, but I doubt I'll be able to help really unfortunately

[lethal dagger]

No worries i just sent what i wanted here

Do you think making a folder named MODs in /data itd work better?

[vale iron]

Hmm that's much different. Interesting

I was guessing it would be the same structure, just packed up

[lethal dagger]

It usually is semi the same

Can we extract pak files

[vale iron]

Psarc does that

[lethal dagger]

Idk what that is

[vale iron]

It's a program for packing and unpacking PS format . PAK files

[lethal dagger]

Maybe thats all that needs to be done

[fallow meadow]

That nms-arc looks like the PCBANKS folder we are familiar with. Not sure if creating a MODS folder inside to put the mods in would work. Not even sure if there is a DISABLEMODS file present

[waxen cedar]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1673?tab=description

updated infinicam for latest version

have fun

[fallow meadow]

@lethal dagger Being homebrew, it may even require editing the existing pak files to contain the modifications

[vale iron]

With the PAK files being named differently, I don't think mods will work on their own, as I think they have references to the vanilla PAK files

[lethal dagger]

That shouldnt be an issue sense i make my own gp4 files

[vale iron]

It's getting too much into stuff I don't know much about, unfortunately

[lethal dagger]

Gp4 tells what the pkg file must read

How do i extract the pcs pak files

[fallow meadow]

PSARC

[lethal dagger]

Ok so it does but i misunderstood

Both*

[fallow meadow]

Other than the file structure being different, the pak files also have normal naming instead of hex values in them

So I guess if you look for the source pak it is supposed to edit for the mod, you can then un-pak that source pak instead to edit it and then re-pak. In theory that should work. In our case, those mods are in their own folder and overwrite the data from the original source because they are loaded last.

[lethal dagger]

Thats what makes me think bringing in another folder would solve cause shouldnt it apply one folder at a time and not all at once

[fallow meadow]

Only thing I am unsure about is how the re-pak is being done in case of references, but I think PSARC will work fine for that

[lethal dagger]

Im checking rn

[fallow meadow]

Yes, having a separate MODS folder would normally be best solution, but the mod you have there is likely created as a pak including references to a different structure.

[lethal dagger]

Ooooh i see what you mean

[fallow meadow]

Either way, the game can also be played fully unpacked :)

[lethal dagger]

No cap?

[fallow meadow]

So once all is unpacked, you can make an edit to any of the files and it should work as well.

Just make a backup ...

[lethal dagger]

So i can just unpack the files and drope em in the game and that might work?

I have 2 backups xd

[fallow meadow]

Not sure what you mean by 'dropping them in the game'. What you showed is from the game, right?

[lethal dagger]

Yeah drop the unpacked pak files and drop them in the arc folder

Extract*

[fallow meadow]

Ahuh, exactly

[lethal dagger]

Ok cool thanks for the many ideas ill lyk how my adventure goes

[fallow meadow]

Just for giggles though, have you tried making a MODS folder in the 'nms-arc' folder and put a mod in there?

[lethal dagger]

Not just yet i just started the process hit that black screen asked around all while being interupted constantly xd

[fallow meadow]

Also make sure the mod is supposed to work for your version. That date from 2021, not so sure

[lethal dagger]

I didnt even think about that and thats modding 101🤦 where do you get your mods from

[fallow meadow]

Nexus Mods

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky

I think Gumsk made a pretty recent mod with some cool freighter

Although not sure how easy to test in your save

[lethal dagger]

Should be pretty easy

Extracted file types look the same gonna extract a bigger one and see the folders

Ok i lied

The ps4s pak files are not extracting

[waxen cedar]

illegal activity

space station =/= base

[fallow meadow]

Ahuh and I am not sure you modified the BC to allow building anywhere

(although that may not work regardless, can;t recall, been a while)

[waxen cedar]

just made cam range very big

character is still standing on planet

[fallow meadow]

Ah, but what about base/build range?

[waxen cedar]

increased that as well, tho it shouldn't matter because I'm not currently building in any base

[fallow meadow]

Ah ok

[lethal dagger]

Is there any recent mods for random planets and the ability to have more than 1 frighter

Ok just the more than 1 frighter

[fallow meadow]

I don't think owning more than 1 is possible, not even with mods.

[lethal dagger]

Sadness

[lethal dagger]

Mods are in building fpkg meow

@vale iron your pegasus will lmk if it worked or not, if i dont run into black screeb

[vale iron]

You have a capital freighter, right?

[lethal dagger]

Yeah

My computer is being stupid so its taking time the thing randomly shuts off

[vale iron]

For the derelict freighter, I see FLOATER, FASTFLOATER, FREIGHTERDRONE. None have descriptors. They're in kind of unconventional places, so they might not do what you want. In the normal planet creatures folder is a FLOATERCREATURE that also has IDs of STRANGE, STRANGE_FLOAT, and FLOAT that has the following descriptors:
FLOAT_RADIALWAVE
FLOAT_TRAILORB
FLOAT_METALORB
FLOAT_EYEFISH
FLOAT_ROSEFISH
FLOAT_FLATCREATURE
FLOAT_RIDGEEEL
FLOAT_ELEPHLOATER

[waxen cedar]

Thank you. I'll check out how they are

[waxen cedar]

Seems like all the derelict creatures will outright vanish. The pet slot will just be empty

[vale iron]

That's too bad. I'll keep an eye out for other possible IDs

[lethal dagger]

Installing game rn

Sooner or later ill figure out how to make it an update

Still didnt work

Sadness

@vale iron goodnews ps4 reads the mods folder badnews still black screen

[fair crown]

Doesnt it also allow making teleport cables between planets?

[waxen cedar]

It does

[lime mesa]

Anyone know what slugs are? They’re in the creature code but I can’t figure it out

They’re listed as slugs and their only info is slug

[magic lava]

I have a guess

I'll post a screen in main

[leaden coyote]

a friend had an idea let me see

try SPACEJELLYFISH

[waxen cedar]

for id? No descriptors? what about type?

[leaden coyote]

As uhh just spevies and yhats it

[waxen cedar]

that just disappeared as well

[woeful wharf]

Hello can anyone help me with fixing conflicting mods it keeps crashing my game on start up and I know nothing of modding so any help is greatly appreciated

[waxen cedar]

1. Check if the mods are up to date with the latest version of the game

2. If two mods modify the same file it can cause a conflict

[woeful wharf]

How do you know which file they modify?

I want to add faster mining and faster scanning of the environment these 2 mods always conflict with a file

[waxen cedar]

Usually mod authors include that info in their mod descriptions but you can also unpak them to see which files they modify

[woeful wharf]

The mining one was updated September last year

Modifies the Optical Drill and Advanced Mining Laser Tech to mine faster and get more resources.

Modifies GCTECHNOLOGYTABLES

Optical Mining Drill
Changes Weapon_Laser_MiningBonus to 16 from 1.5
Modifier also affects how many plants you harvest while the multi-tool active.

Advanced Mining Laser
Changes Weapon_Laser_Mining_Speed to 0.25 from 0.85
Most mining takes about a second or less.

That's the description do I need to remove a file out for this to work or?

I have no idea what to do or what to look for

:/

[vale iron]

Those are two different mods? If so, they modify the same file and only one will work. That, however, wouldn't cause the game to crash. One of your mods is out of date must likely. September might be ok. I think early October was the last update but I can't remember if the tech table was affected

[woeful wharf]

Okay I found a fast scanner last updated last year April time this again is causing confliction where is the file that conflicts with it?

[vale iron]

We have no way of knowing what conflicts because we don't know what you have installed. Last April would be too old for that file anyway

[woeful wharf]

Then there is no mod for fast scanning that would be up to date

There all 1+ year old mods

[vale iron]

There are multiple updated ones, including one I make, gGame

[hushed bronze]

There's always my scanner mod that's regularly updated by Babscoole

@woeful wharf

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1198

But yeah there are two very old ones that are constantly and inexplicably upvoted all the time despite being useless lol

A lot of mods do that, actually. I can't explain it

[waxen cedar]

Some mods are even from like 4-5 years ago and still get upvoted

nexusmods is a potato

[woeful wharf]

Hmmm i’ll be sure to try it but if it conflicts with something I need help I’m stupid with modding or changing files to make something work

[woeful wharf]

@hushed bronze tytytytytytytytytytyty it works I have been looking for days for a working scanner mod since you and everyone here knows all about mods do you know the best mining mod that works that I could use?

[woeful wharf]

Does anyone know a working no tech overload mod?

[vale iron]

That will conflict with scanner mods

You need one that does both in one mod or a custom mod

gGame does both, but it has other things in it too that you might not want

@woeful wharf

[woeful wharf]

what other things

do you have the link to the file?

I found it no I'll get this tbh

it looks good the one you made @vale iron

it still is giving me the overload issue?

What am i doing wrong I removed the other mods that would conflict with this one

nvm I got it to work thank you again for this mod yano ty to all of you who create awesome mods 🙂

[fair crown]

cable length limit....

[waxen cedar]

oh heck

forgot that

one sec

[fair crown]

f

[waxen cedar]

updated

[fair crown]

How long will it take till its live

[waxen cedar]

now

[waxen cedar]

hmm

[fair crown]

can you send it to me over dms perhaps?

[waxen cedar]

sure

[fair crown]

thank

[hallow flame]

How this room work?

[vale iron]

You talk about mods

[hallow flame]

K so no asking FOR mods?

[vale iron]

You can, but chances are slim. You're more likely to get help making that mod

[hallow flame]

On a scale of 1 to 4 how hard is it for xbox s

[vale iron]

4, if possible at all

[hallow flame]

K ty

[waxen cedar]

so umm

I really do wonder if it's possible to backwards engineer the UID somehow into a friend code

@vale iron doesn't the friend list store peoples UID's as well?

also where the heck do I find my friend list

😅

okay UID was definitely user id

same code can be found in a string referring to "AuthorOnlineID" in bytebeats

added myself to blocked users

how does this turn into that

or do they even have any relation to one another

[vale iron]

My guess is that they aren't related, but it's purely a guess. It wouldn't be a hex conversion

[waxen cedar]

id for your personal friend code is MY_FRIEND_CODE at least

54AD-2423-08BE-24AF"

this was alternative friend code

hmm

time to add that and see what happens

friend failed to add

hmm

I set HG's UID as the preset ID to PLAYER01 in the multiplayer join list

umm

would anyone care to provide their UID for testing purposes?

I'm attempting to turn my base into someone elses base

"UserData":4278190087,

this is separate user data

that ID seems to be tied to placed base objects

so everything placed by me will have that UD

everything placed by other people will have UD of 0 or 45 it seems

ok I turned my base into HG's base

[fallow meadow]

@waxen cedar The "UserData" part of base objects is used to identify various things for that specific object. Can be colour, material, logic state, etc.

[waxen cedar]

because HG's UID is the only one I know

this i sthe base owner UID

I changed it to external base and made HG's user ID the owner

other players bases are shown as External

[fallow meadow]

That is not going to do much though, only to how you perceive it

[waxen cedar]

I can report my own base now

don't have build perms

hmm

I have claimed my PS5 accounts base on my PC

I can edit it

my PS5 account can see the edits

despite all permissions being off

this is hecking illegal

this is a base of my PS5 account and I can literally upload it on PC

the heck

welp, on a positive note you can basically have shared bases now

idk I'm drunk

sorry for spam

[fallow meadow]

Did you change the UID/LID for the base data on your PC save?

[waxen cedar]

ye

idk but now my PC and PS5 acc has the exact same base and both accs can see the edits and such

[fallow meadow]

Then you created a copy that now belongs to you on PC, so sure you can upload it. The PS5 base is still there as well though, owned by the PS5 account

[waxen cedar]

what if I would change the platform PTK of my PC copy to PS?

as well as the TS

[fallow meadow]

You can likely check now you have it uploaded. Restart and force bases to reload from the server, then check your save data and you likely see both bases (one PC, other PS5)

TS = TimeStamp. PTK is the platform code for the UID/LID

[waxen cedar]

welp

[fallow meadow]

All you are doing is making local edits.

[waxen cedar]

at least I've reached my goal of getting my PS bases to PC

I've wanted to do that for a while now

[fallow meadow]

Oh yes, this is exactly how that is done when transferring between platforms

[waxen cedar]

don't really care for the shared thing. Just thought it was now possible in my drunken state xD

sry for misunderstanding

😅

[fair crown]

Is it possible to move settlements?

Aka from a place that's literally hell to somewhere less....hot

[fallow meadow]

@waxen cedar However, bases have always remained a bit of an issue, because if you truly wish to do it right, you would have to remove the initial base on the original platform, after you have done the transfer. If not, there will remain a duplicate base.

[waxen cedar]

yes but the move won't be seen by others unless you moev to settlements that are generated by the vanilla algorithm

[fair crown]

.-.

[waxen cedar]

I don't mind the duplicate. If my PC breaks for some reason I still have the OG

[fair crown]

I wish someone would release a mod that throws up a large shield around an area to protect against environmental hazards and stuff

[fallow meadow]

I guess you could copy the settlement data, then find a new settlement elsewhere and claim that instead. Then copy over pretty much all the settlement data for it.

[fair crown]

especially settlements, I know that emergency heaters can make you immune to the cold planetside

[fair crown]

but other people wont see the one I copied over

[fallow meadow]

Well, it can at times be annoying and cause weirdness. If it is not loaded at the same time, you won't notice.

[hybrid ivy]

Hello, I was wondering if there were any face/race adding mods (or iterations as I think they are called). Also, I tried to install the mod manager on nexus mods, but the download said it may be unsafe, so I wanted to check if that was the case or not.

Finally, the pins say that while most stuff is identical if two people have the same mods except base mods. What exactly does this entail, just nothing in a base being visible? My friend and I have been sharing settlements, so that'd be inconvenient.

[fair crown]

is there no mod that negates hazardous conditions around a general proximity?

[fallow meadow]

I think others will still see your progress if you copied the settlement data over to another existing one

[fair crown]

both need base mods

[fair crown]

x.x I need to find the data for it

[fallow meadow]

Save Editor, either NomNom or NMSSE

[waxen cedar]

still need to figure out how to get UID into friend code

my ultimate goal is to add Hello Games to my friend list

I have their UID

where the heck is friend list located in

[fair crown]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-trolling-meme-pc-boys-we-do-a-little-trolling-gif-20726100

[fair crown]

goatfungus?

[fallow meadow]

Do make sure the mod manager does things correctly. With NMS hardly even needed to be honest.

As for modding and multiplayer, everyone will see changes made to 'vanilla' things. But as soon as it does things that are not present or possible in vanilla, it will only be visible if another player uses the same mod(s).

[waxen cedar]

couldn't get HG to appear by adding them to FRIENDSINVITESPAGE as presetID for player1

[fallow meadow]

Not sure you want to

[vale iron]

I had one, gFloor, but 3.75 broke it

[waxen cedar]

I wanna stalk when HGs account is online

[fair crown]

how did it break? Is it fixable?

[waxen cedar]

[vale iron]

The protection bubble is registering as a collision box. I tried some things but couldn't figure out what is causing it

[fair crown]

would be nice if I could slap a few to cover a settlement. Does it also prevent brush fires?

[fallow meadow]

Sorry, missed it. goatfungus is NMSSE

[fair crown]

wdym collision box? Like you can't walk past it?

is there a mod that can also extend the range of emergency heaters?

[vale iron]

I can extend the heater range. That shouldn't break

[fallow meadow]

@fair crown Here is the settlement data (SettlementStatesv2), near the bottom of PlayerStateData
Make sure you have the right index (number on the left) that belongs to you, which can be seen in the data on the right for the owner.
Basically the highlighted data is unique to the settlement and should not be altered. All the other data can be pretty much copied from a previous settlement, and then has your progress, buildings built, stats, everything.

[fair crown]

because if I move the settlement to a icy location I dont feel like spamming 20 bajillion emergency heaters

probs wouldnt even let me I bet

[waxen cedar]

@fallow meadow do you know where the friend list is located at?

[fair crown]

so I guess if the settlement gets uploaded to the cloud it will also overwrite the original spot?

[fallow meadow]

@waxen cedar I don't think it is located locally, but more likely all done server side

[waxen cedar]

I will never get to add HG to my friends list :c

[fallow meadow]

In that case, I doubt it

[fair crown]

How exactly does the heater prevent cold in the code? Can a duplicate of it be made so that it can be set to different hazards?

[vale iron]

It already protects against everything

[fair crown]

...it does?

[fallow meadow]

Not sure how settlements are kept in sync and what can be changed for others to see, but I do believe any progress is being synced at least

[waxen cedar]

isn't the heater radius basically equivalent of the state when you're in a building

or in a cave

[vale iron]

It's a similar state, yes

[fair crown]

I can place em outside near the base

...would be nice if the same can be done at settlements

[waxen cedar]

base part version of the heater is a separate object and doesn't have the properties of a heater on derelicts

[fair crown]

damn

[vale iron]

I'm pretty sure it does

I'm not at my computer to look

[fair crown]

I can take a quick attempt...?

[waxen cedar]

well at least it's not preventing you from getting hazard damage and such

the base part version is purely visual

[fair crown]

protects against cold hazard damage

I use em on some of my bases

[waxen cedar]

oh heck

[vale iron]

I'll look in a little bit

[waxen cedar]

that's changed then

I remember trying that on the pie4 console when we first got those items

and they didn't protect from cold

[fallow meadow]

I actually believe it negates all planetary environmental effects (not sure about extreme storms, lightning, meteors etc.)

[fair crown]

ofc not lightning and meteors smh

[fallow meadow]

If scaled to max size, radius of protection is max as well

[fair crown]

x.x gigantic heater

[vale iron]

I'm pretty sure I can slap together an extension for it shortly

It's just going to be an integer in the entity file

[fair crown]

would it be possible too to have it get rid of the hud filters when a storm happened with it on?

[vale iron]

I have that mod already

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2115

[fair crown]

naw I mean, have it prevent it when the heaters on? Or would that be too hard?

[vale iron]

I'd have to play with the area effects

Some of them maintain the overlays and some hide them

[fair crown]

I see

[fallow meadow]

If you are giving it a range Gumsk, large planets are 130ku radius 😉

[fair crown]

nothing that extreme

[fair crown]

isn't scalable by much

range isn't very appreciable but the smol heater is cute ngl

[fair crown]

area seems to be one panel wide, one panel long...

[waxen cedar]

umm

@vale iron what

help

[fair crown]

IT DOES WORK

[waxen cedar]

help what

[fair crown]

dew it

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-dewit-gif-11426456

[vale iron]

You're gonna get in trouble :p

[waxen cedar]

oh no oh no

why did I click it

help

am drunk

a

sorry

@vale iron please check featured base list

help

[vale iron]

I'm not online

[vale iron]

Maybe should submit a bug report and tell them what you did, how you did it, and that you hope you didn't cause a problem

[fair crown]

Eyup heaters make you immune to being in flames as well

this should be a meme

[waxen cedar]

issue is

Idk what I did

[fallow meadow]

So it protects against everything? Hmmm, maybe you should try lightning as well?

[fair crown]

that would be very hard to pull off

[waxen cedar]

umm

this is a completely random base

like

literally

I didn't even edit anything in anywhere

why can I rename the base

[fair crown]

kek

[waxen cedar]

why can I feature it

help

I'm hecking stressed

[vale iron]

I think I've seen that before, maybe in the save file. It's possible you're just changing a flag in the save file and not doing anything bad. I have no idea

[waxen cedar]

well let's hope so

[fallow meadow]

*hacking 🙄

[waxen cedar]

not trying to...

I'm just trying to add HG to my NMS friend list. Issue is I've drank and stumblin upon other stuff while trying to find the relation of UID to friend code

Idk where am going. I just wanna see HG in my friends list

[fallow meadow]

I don't think there is a direct relation between UID and friend code.

Only relation they have is being a unique identifier

[waxen cedar]

alright

okay it was just UI thing. It wasn't actually doing anything

you need to be a dev and have some account and server override stuff active for that to actually work

thank god

[vale iron]

@fair crown Still around? I have an extender you can test

[hybrid ivy]

What's one of the better reshade mods that doesn't add distance blur?

(Also, will Better Planet Generation only function if we make a fresh world, or will it start to work once we visit a new planet?)

[vale iron]

BPG will work as soon as you load any save.

It transforms old planets, too

[hybrid ivy]

Got it, additionally, are there any good increased walk speed mods besides Vanilla plus? That and increased refined speed are conflicting with my other mods

[vale iron]

Refining speed is Gameplay Globals, which many mods hit, so it's going to be hard to not conflict there. Walk speed is Player Globals, which is also pretty common. What are the mods that are conflicting?

[hybrid ivy]

I have Better Planet Generation and Reduced Launch Fuel installed, and the conflicting ones are Vanilla Plus and 100x refining speed

[vale iron]

I just looked at vanilla plus and that would conflict with almost anything and it's way out of date. You need to pull that one

[hybrid ivy]

Already did fortunately

[vale iron]

The others shouldn't conflict with each other

gEpic has increased walk speed but it also has a ton of other stuff you may not want

[fair crown]

Yeah im here boss

[hybrid ivy]

Sadly the fast refining still conflicts somehow. I did find a walk speed mod but its from like 2017 so not gonna try there

[lime mesa]

what a odd coincidence, my irl name is griffon

@gusty totem you got the stuffs?

[waxen cedar]

pain

I somehow managed to wipe my freighter base out of existence last night

time to see steam cloud backups

[hearty wasp]

Base exports are always your friends

[waxen cedar]

btw

can I safely just delete all the stuff in the st_ folder

with saves and such

if I've made a cloud save

[hearty wasp]

You can try by just moving the files first

[waxen cedar]

lets see

[hearty wasp]

But theoretically yeah

Except the preview images I think

[waxen cedar]

welp

everything is fince now except for a freighter base

anyone mind sharing their freighter base?

[haughty bay]

about 12 hours late but i just exported my freighter base is this right?

or it as a txt file idk

seems like a lot of garbage though

and not right

[fallow meadow]

What did you use to export the freighter base?

[haughty bay]

the no man's sky save editor by goatfungus

which is the only save editor i know of, the top search for nms save editor

[fallow meadow]

Ah yes, should be good, but is the compressed data which makes it unreadable and possibly only useful to NMSSE itself

So NMSSE can 'Restore' this file fine from this freighter backup, but NomNom likely doesn't know what to do with it.

I personally prefer to make JSON backups, but although readable, requires understanding of the JSON and where it needs to go inside the full Save Data JSON

[lime mesa]

@slate veldt probably should take chat here so what about base building mods would that be client sided I dont know what's safe to install for client side just in case if I play with friends

[slate veldt]

The folks in this channel can answer that better than I can tbh

[lime mesa]

Also that mod you suggested I think I'm definitely getting

[slate veldt]

Yeah, it sounded pretty neat!

[lime mesa]

Also I can't find any mods by gumsk can you suggest one

@slate veldt

[vale iron]

Here's almost all of them. I think I need to update the list:
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1541

@lime mesa what was the question you had?

[waxen cedar]

too bad these don't work anymore

[vale iron]

Yeah :(

[lime mesa]

Wait what defense turrets?

[lime mesa]

Oh thanks

[waxen cedar]

Ye. HG patched them to not work on bases sometime around Origins I think...

weird that it was still kept as a base building part tho

[lime mesa]

Hmm weird

[vale iron]

Weird they ever put it in there. I don't know what they were planning

[waxen cedar]

also whatever happened to these?

[vale iron]

I think they kind of worked on some sort of base defense system at some point

[waxen cedar]

in the present state of the game it wouldn't really be that fancy tho

looking at you, settlement defense events

[lime mesa]

So the guy who makes no man's sky forgot his name has he mentioned anything about modding that he doesn't like it or like it because I would feel bad If I modded and he frowned upon it

[fallow meadow]

@lime mesa To answer your question about building mods and client side or not, this depends on what is being added and done by the mod. Some build mods will allow vanilla objects to be placed in situations or ways otherwise impossible, but still visible this way by any other player. Other build mods will introduce new objects or existing objects that are not supposed to be possible, which will then be just client side only, unless another player has the same mod. With the latter there may also be some issues involved where it might be possible for other players to crash when getting your 'modded' base parts loaded (same session or uploaded base)

[lime mesa]

I see thanks

[fallow meadow]

There is also a pinned post with lots of info for that matter when it comes to MP

[vale iron]

They are fine with modding. They may never actively support it, but they don't have a problem with it existing

[lime mesa]

Oh ok yeah it's rare for a company to support modding its usually frowned upon

Unless it's Bethesda lol that's a different story

[lime mesa]

@vale iron make lego ninjago shhip mod

[vale iron]

I don't think there's a model available for that. Haven't seen one at least

[lime mesa]

The destinys bounty

Freighhte

[vale iron]

I'll look later

[lime mesa]

That’s bc Bethesda never finishes their games

[digital blade]

Bethesda has turned into straight trash; the way they handle Fallout 76 is disgusting

There's blatant bugs that would easily be fixable with a mission as SOON as you leave the vault

They refuse to fix anything

There's plenty of quest breaking bugs; I had an issue where a main quest completed way ahead of time without any of the pre-requisite stuff all because I was exploring and opened a terminal.

It just randomly completed a quest and locked me out of a lot of quests and content

I quit the game over that shit

[lime mesa]

Fixing it won’t make them more money, they got a lot of ppl on initial release and are still getting a good number of them via that subscription system. I forget what the ‘premium’ sorta thing gets u but yeah. It def sucks

[digital blade]

It would make more money indirectly

The game would have a lot more players if they consistently fixed their game

[lime mesa]

when it comes to fallout 76 yes however they have made some masterpiece games like skyrim

[digital blade]

I don't mind the occasional silly bug, but leaving quest breaking bugs in the game is unacceptable

Skyrim isn't some wonderful masterpiece lol; it's a good game, don't get me wrong, but it took a LOT of updates over the years to get "good"

It relies heavily on it's mod community to fix a ton of issues as well

That option doesn't exist for Fallout 76

Not to mention, the mod scene is STILL a mess for Skyrim after their insane anniversary update breaking mods

They lost money from me, because I enjoyed 76 until I started running into quest and progression breaking bugs that ruined my save

[lime mesa]

it takes alot of modding to make it good lol

personally I still play it and enjoy it

[digital blade]

I had a subscription to Fallout 1st, I promptly canceled it when I started encountering unacceptable bugs

76 is littered with bugs you'd expect from that type of game while it's still in development, pre-release type bugs

[lime mesa]

I think we should take modding chat back to nms related

[mental marsh]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h_dR6FHt3z1UaMdhn6AEQSJa_Ww9adojTR9vk1nybBc/edit?usp=sharing

Just again, putting these up to sharing

all clean and updated to date.

o7 have fun.

[vale iron]

Finally found a way to fix gFloor Heated Floors. Renamed to gWeather Safe Buildings. Gives a hazard protection bubble to basic floor pieces.
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1657

Extends the range of emergency heaters (from derelict freighters), makes them always on, and optionally hides weather effects inside the heater area. Thanks to JasonDude for help finding ways to make it always on.
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2154/

[lament mountain]

Is there any way to tell what ships line up with those generated codes when using the save editor?

Nvm think I found it. They are apparently called seeds. Here's the link if anyone else needs it
https://www.nmseeds.club/

[magic lava]

Use this one instead https://nomansseeds.com

@lament mountain

They also have a discord

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[hearty wasp]

just use the ship builder bot on their discord lmao

[twilit smelt]

@sudden wasp Mission skipping:
#nms-modding message

[lean saffron]

I forget, is there a mod for hiding mission guidance text completely?

[twilit smelt]

sort of?
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/914

[lean saffron]

If it does what it says it does, that looks perfect for this use case

Depending on how faded they mean

[sudden wasp]

@twilit smelt @lean saffron Thanks! That’s what I needed!

[twilit smelt]

i've done this before (albeit from poking around on my own instead of reading a nice guide from devilin) and it helped get through a broken mission. it's pretty straightforward once you get comfy with the hierarchical structure.

[woeful wharf]

Is there a mod that allows a starship to have 48 tech slots?

[hearty wasp]

can't you just edit your save

[woeful wharf]

huh?

What do you mean edit?

With like notepad or something?

[hearty wasp]

with a save editor

[lean saffron]

Just in case you didn't already know, any S class non-living ship can be upgraded to 48+21 slots using in-game methods.

[woeful wharf]

Yeah I know that but I can edit the save file to give my ship 48 slots instead of 21 tech slots

[hearty wasp]

yes

[fallow meadow]

@lime mesa No guide, but really easy to do and most mods will explain how to install and possible requirements needed.

In short, download the mod, put all the .paks into a folder called 'MODS' (all caps and created if it doesn't exist) inside the PCBANKS folder, NOT in the already existing 'imposter' MODS folder. Then remove or rename the DISABLEMODS.txt in PCBANKS.

Make sure your mods are not outdated, and be aware of possible conflicts if mods change the same game files

Thanks for posting the link to the online guide @vale iron

[lime mesa]

how do i access the pcbanks mod

idek how to access the nms mod folder in general

[vale iron]

@lime mesa This is the mod enabler for Microsoft. It also tells you the path.
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1751

[lime mesa]

what do i do with that file?

i extracted the folder then ran the application now i have a screen that popped up

[vale iron]

It just does its job, then when it's done you can use mods

[lime mesa]

so now that it says press any key to exit i can just load NMS and the mods will be in the game?

[vale iron]

No, you have to browse nexusmods to find the mods you want. Then you install them with the guide I showed earlier

[lime mesa]

ohh ok

i have the mods just havent implimented them

one question how do i access the actual folder for nms the guide doesnt say how to

[vale iron]

The path is listed on the Microsoft enabler page above

[lime mesa]

if i click the HelloGames folder then click NMS am i supposed to have defaultuser file?

[vale iron]

"The PCBANKS folder where you can put your MODS folder after running this can be found by entering the following into the Windows file Explorer:
%localappdata%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\LocalCache\Local\Microsoft\WritablePackageRoot\GAMEDATA\PCBANKS
Note, the _bs190hzg1sesy part may be different. In that case navigate to %localappdata%\Packages and navigate to the folder from there."

[lime mesa]

yea if i input that into my file explorer it sends me to my internet browser

[vale iron]

Try browsing there manually

[lime mesa]

im on my %appdata% folders

and i found the HelloGames folder

[vale iron]

I don't remember if there's a difference between appdata and localappdata and not at my computer to check

[lime mesa]

there is i never noticed that

do i just put the mods in the mods folder because in the mods folder theres another folder

[vale iron]

You're in PCBANKS\MODS?

[lime mesa]

yes

i put all the mods in the mods folder in pcbanks?

[vale iron]

Yes, the . PAKs

[lime mesa]

am i unzipping the folders?

theyre all zipped folders

[vale iron]

You need. PAK files

[fallow meadow]

LocalAppData is the Local folder within AppData

[lime mesa]

the mods i got from nexusmods all downloaded into zipped folders

[fallow meadow]

Game Pass makes use of localappdata, Steam mostly Roaming within AppData

[lime mesa]

wait theres .pak files inside the mod files

some of the mods have multiple .pak files do i just put them all inside the mods folder?

[fallow meadow]

The mod usually mentions the use of multiple pak files, so I'd check the mod page to see what it says

[lime mesa]

the page doesnt say anything about multiple pak files

[fallow meadow]

Which mod is it?

[lime mesa]

shaidaks generation

[fallow meadow]

Forget about that mod, it's no longer updated nor maintained

[lime mesa]

no worries then

[fallow meadow]

Someone did create an update at some point, but that one is hidden currently. I would suggest to check the 'last updated' date and if not recent, to check the posts. Often it is quickly figured out if still working or not

[lime mesa]

so for these other mods do i just put the pak file in the mods folder and then the mods installed after that?

[fallow meadow]

Yes, installing means putting those .pak files in that folder, that's it

[lime mesa]

if i did this right the mods are installed

will the game tell me the mods are installed or do i just load the game and hope for the best?

[fallow meadow]

There should be a warning when you start the game, just prior to the intro screens

If the game for some reason fails to start, it is likely a mod causing an issue

[lime mesa]

Mod warning is that what I’m supposed to see?

Oop the game failed

[fallow meadow]

Yes, the mod warning shows when you have removed the DISABLEMODS file (or possibly removed by ANMSMEMSPC)

[lime mesa]

Kinda sucks I have to remove a mod then enter the game just to see if it works

[fallow meadow]

You'll grow more familiar with the mods and will learn when a mod may fail.

[lime mesa]

Tbh I’m just looking for graphical mods that’s it

I don’t want anything game changing just graphical changes

[fallow meadow]

But yes, only way to tell is by trial and error. Remove one at a time, or if you have many, remove half at a time to speed up this process

[lime mesa]

Do you know any updated graphics mod for NMS

[fallow meadow]

Oh and yes, Shaidak appeared to have multiple .pak files, depending on the quality or density you wanted, I think. Either way, you only had to pick one of them.

[fallow meadow]

I don't use mods, so I am not all that familiar with them

[lime mesa]

Lemme redownload shaideks and see if it works

Oop it loaded shaideks

[fallow meadow]

Argh Water Mod, Duds Sky, not too many graphics mods though

[lime mesa]

Nvm no it didn’t

[fallow meadow]

I could recommend ReShade, but that's not really a mod to begin with, but sure can improve your graphical experience

[lime mesa]

What’s does reshade do?

[fallow meadow]

ReShade is post-processing graphics

[lime mesa]

I might just not use mods and run vanilla I’m getting pretty tired of loading the game and then it not loading getting kinda annoying

[fallow meadow]

@lime mesa Try one mod at a time perhaps?

Or start with a mod known to work? Hard for me to tell not knowing what mods you selected for a first install

[slate veldt]

Ok, dead topic, i know, but i scanned around the chat and didnt see anything shared. Did you post this fix on Nexus?

[vale iron]

I think it's in dud's sky ship headlights plus

[restive wolf]

Any interstellar music mod guys?

[thorn scarab]

make a playlist in Spotify or something ?

[restive wolf]

Nah

[leaden coyote]

does anyone know how to derive any useful info about the coordinates of base parts relative to the base computer using the forward value?

since what i do know is that controls what the plane of the base computer is

-0.22818604111671448,
0.972118616104126,
0.05400592461228371

do not set the forward values to 0

doesnt work

[fallow meadow]

The Base Computer is no longer involved when it comes to other base parts. Base parts indeed used to be relative to the BC, but now we can move it in-game, this is no longer the case. Base parts are relative to general base position.

As for the Forward and At values, those are normalised vectors for the rotation, but also control size.

[leaden coyote]

so wat is goin wring then

[fallow meadow]

So yes, setting those to 0 is not a good idea. They are usually close to 0,1,0, or 1, 0,0, or 0,0,1 or something alike

[leaden coyote]

thats how much we missed

[leaden coyote]

my base parts do seem to be relative to the base computer

how do i change that

[fallow meadow]

Well, this change was pretty recent, so the save editor and Blender plugin, likely still handle it that way. So as long as you do not move your base computer, it should make no diff

[leaden coyote]

it does tho

quite a big one

[fallow meadow]

The BC was always made the 0,0,0 on the planet for other base parts relative to it. Now the planet position for the base is made the 0,0,0. By default the BC is placed at 0,0,0 anyway, so no diff there

The diff you are getting is a miscalculation

[leaden coyote]

im

not sure it is

i cant see any other possible way

someone else i gave the values of did the calculation

i checked the values with player and ship location so i dont think they are wrong either

[fallow meadow]

Base 1 is relative to Planet 1 core, Base 2 is relative to Planet B core. Each have their own orientation as well. Then you have the planets themselves which are relative to the system space.

The mistake most often made is the diff between being relative to planet and relative to system space

[leaden coyote]

i have both coords relative to the system

[fallow meadow]

Also the rotation, because getting that wrong, you may have the correct distance, but going the wrong way

[leaden coyote]

which i checked with player and ship position which also seems to be relative to the system

[leaden coyote]

yes thats what im asking how do i figure out the rotation

[fallow meadow]

Those are the vectors you showed

the normalised ones

[leaden coyote]

the forward vectors?

[leaden coyote]

these ones?

[fallow meadow]

The forward for the planet is important, yes

[leaden coyote]

so do i multiply my values by the forward ones then divide them by the magnitude of the forward vector

[fallow meadow]

but you also have the base parts, which use an Up and At

[leaden coyote]

yes

[fallow meadow]

To calculate a position in 3d space, you need multiple vectors unless you already know the base axis

[leaden coyote]

so i do need to calculate the plane the base computer sets and then recalculate the position vectors?

[fallow meadow]

Think of it this way, you have a base at planet 1, of which we are ignoring where it's at for now. Now you have a base on surface relative to this planet. You need to know the forward and up to know its orientation. The position is relative to the planet core. You now need rotation (forward and up) together with the position vector relative to this planet position to know where to move each base part to.

Now move into space, you can check the planet positions, and then calculate the distance between each core. But now taking the bases with it, you have relative stuff going on towards 2 planets, and then towards each other

[steel crypt]

Gumsk is correct. Sorry for late reply. All fixes I have made to ship models are in ShipHeadlightsPlus mod in DUD'S SKY on Nexus.

[fallow meadow]

@leaden coyote The easiest way would be to first calculate the distance between both planets and the vectors to know direction of this distance from one planet to the other (lets call it Space Move). Then you get the base part position relative to planet 1 and the direction, move it there, then move it along the Space Move, then you need to once more move it from the core of planet 2 to the end position on planet 2 surface, which also has a position and direction.

I am really not sure how to describe it any better

Not sure it helps in any way, but there are 4 planet sizes (radius):
15k Moon, 65k Small, 98k Medium, 130k Large
You can easily figure those out to then simplify base part relative to planet core, other than direction to core.
planet base position is given, then:
base distance from core = sqrt(x^2+y^2+z^2) <- will more or less equal one of the radii mentioned above

Of course all base parts are relative to this position and you have yet to determine any direction

Some prefer to eyeball it or do some sort of triangulation or other manual way and less precise tricks to get it right. I prefer calculation myself, as adjusting is going to be a pain due to relative orientations. Certainly possible though and I I know someone who does it that way. Check out Peter Laan on YouTube

[fallow meadow]

Could also just install a mod like InfiniCam ...

[leaden coyote]

iyeah the issue is the direction i can figure out the distance relatively easily

[leaden coyote]

done this its too slow trying to edit speed the unpacker refuses to unpack camera speed

[hearty wasp]

Just get a camera mod with lua

The fuck we're trying to achieve again?

[leaden coyote]

getting vamera mod faster

[hearty wasp]

Yeah gCam

Should have a lua

[leaden coyote]

doesnt

[hearty wasp]

Unpack the paks?

I can be wrong but I'm p sure Gumsk don't really make stuff without luas

[leaden coyote]

the issue is i cant unpack the camera paks

for whatever reason

the one thing i wanted couldnt be unpacked

[vale iron]

Then look on either the gmods page that has all my LUAs, or the modding LUA GitHub repository

[steel crypt]

@vale iron Hey, I don't know if you saw that final "fix" for the heater thing. Just giving you a heads up in case you didn't. Anyway, the solution or idea is in there which you might be able to use for other things.

[vale iron]

I did, thank you! I'll definitely keep it in mind for future uses

[slate veldt]

Is there a mod that totally disables the photo mode vignette?
Or just a way to always default it to 0%
I have the most annoying banding issue with it that often ruins shots when I forget to remove it

[vale iron]

There's a recent mod for it, but you have to hit a key first. Completely removing it requires editing a LUT, which I might do sometime if I feel like learning that

[slate veldt]

Also, I have an oddball question that maybe someone here can answer.
I'm trying to save edit my position in an old Path Finder save.
I'm using a save editor from the 1.2 days but it doesnt have the convenient coordinate viewer option that the modern save editors have.
Would anyone know hte specific areas I'd need to save edit my position to a station in a system in a different galaxy?

[slate veldt]

Dang it, was hoping for something that at least defaults it to 0%.
I did find a file once that seemed to store photo mode vignette settings but I didn't mess with it

[vale iron]

Yeah that's what the mod does. I messed with it before and had the same results.

[slate veldt]

oh ok, i misunderstood

[fallow meadow]

No way to edit the raw JSON?

[vale iron]

Huh, I can't find that mod now

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2148

[slate veldt]

There is, but i am scared as hell to fuck it up 😆

[slate veldt]

thanks for the link!

oh, removes controls banner too, neat

[vale iron]

For the save edit, change your location first digit to 0, then the state to inship

[fallow meadow]

What do you want your position to be?

Any system in a diff galaxy?

[slate veldt]

specific system near core in galaxy 255

then 256, 257
you get the idea

[fallow meadow]

Does not have to be Space Station?

[slate veldt]

I'm looking to put this debate about 257 to bed lol

[slate veldt]

I figured space station is safer but I remembered i have a creative save

[fallow meadow]

What is the debate again?

[slate veldt]

Whether 257 ever existed

[vale iron]

Though I think you're going to run into the wall you mentioned earlier: unverifiable myth

No matter what you actually prove

[fallow meadow]

Keep in mind that internal galaxy values are 1 less than what the wiki shows, even though it makes sense to do it like that

[vale iron]

"it's in the wiki" and "but I heard some people still have access"

[slate veldt]

yeah, im concerned with that as well

It's basically trying to prove existence of god at this point

[slate veldt]

yep, aware

I'm firmly in the camp that Odyulatai is the actual last galaxy

since its index 255

[vale iron]

Me too, and that Odyalutai is the fallback for anything outside the 0 to 255 range

[slate veldt]

yep, that what my testing resulted in

[fallow meadow]

@slate veldt I would just visit a space station with your ship in the current save. Then jump out of ship to have it saved there.

After that, go into the raw JSON and edit the 'RealityIndex' to 255 for Odyalutai, or 256 for Yilsrussimil

Can always use a portal to jump to a core region

[slate veldt]

for current game at least

[slate veldt]

no portals yet?

1.2

Path Finder

[vale iron]

I tested just before they fixed the Galaxy map and found the same thing

[fallow meadow]

Ah ok, so it would require to get a match region or system from current

[slate veldt]

Not necessarily, I want to test it locally.
Not concerned about galaxy reset

Just want to see if the game version back then ever supported a galaxy beyond Odyulatai

[fallow meadow]

Could at least test the galaxy. Let me know if you really need a system near core

[slate veldt]

I also have 1.03 on another hard drive, but I have to find that HDD

[slate veldt]

The reason I want a system near the core is to show core warping results in the same thing

[fallow meadow]

Ok, I will have to find one and get the data from it

[slate veldt]

afaik, core warping would take you to 256 back then

[vale iron]

I think it puts '256' in the save file and generates a name to match, maybe some other things, but planets are all in the same place and bases from Odyalutai are still there

[fallow meadow]

Just a system with SSI 1 would be safe bet, just need a region close to core

[slate veldt]

Yeah, there was some weird shit happening with the galaxy map but I think that's just because I was in Euclid before the save edit.

It still said i had bases everywhere nearby

[fallow meadow]

!coords 0804:0083:0804:0001

[hardy aurora]

@fallow meadow

0804:0083:0804:0001 // planet 0

000104005005
Distance from center: 3250 ly

[fallow meadow]

let me convert that to proper decimal values

[waxen cedar]

question

if this is a thumbnail for player base

and this is a thumbnail for a space station

then what the heck is this

what are those doors and paths in there

[slate veldt]

That's part of my confusion. Sometimes the system coordinate is in decimal, sometimes in hex.
Not sure which is the correct one to change

[slate veldt]

Cropped out the majority of it but it looks like the Artemis chamber in the Anomaly

[viral badger]

[waxen cedar]

Hmm, could be. Weird how it was under the teleport location thumbnails tho

[slate veldt]

which thumbnail?

[waxen cedar]

lemme see

THUMB.BASEBLUEPRINT.DDS

but for bases they use THUMB.BASE.DDS

[fallow meadow]

@slate veldt So you want the below values for respective fields in your save. I don't think it will be any diff. You will find this pretty much at the top of the JSON. Just make sure you saved in a Space Station, although still no guarantee you will actually end up in there, as sometimes you still spawn near or inside the mesh.

        "UniverseAddress":{
            "RealityIndex":255,
            "GalacticAddress":{
                "VoxelX":5,
                "VoxelY":4,
                "VoxelZ":5,
                "SolarSystemIndex":1,
                "PlanetIndex":0
            }
        },

[slate veldt]

Perfect thanks, will try in a few minutes.
This is probably going to be a slow test though, since the game is stored on a HDD

Takes bloody forever to load the save

[fallow meadow]

Let me know if the JSON is quite diff, as I have never played such an early version (started just prior to Atlas Rises)

[lime mesa]

can someone link the message with the mod website links

[vale iron]

I always set SpawnStateData\LastKnownPlayerState to InShip so I'm safe if I spawn in space

[lime mesa]

i cant seem to find it

[slate veldt]

It's similar at least but the save editor just shows the lines, no directory

so i have to search manually

[vale iron]

?
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/

[fallow meadow]

Could do that, but with being in Space Station something similar will happen when you actually spawn near instead

[lime mesa]

thank you gumsk

[slate veldt]

good to know, i will see if I can do that as well if the space station thing doesnt work out

[vale iron]

No problem

[slate veldt]

oh ok, nvm then

[fallow meadow]

Only time you spawn out of ship (when previously saved in SS), is when it is an uncharted system

[lime mesa]

is deep space v2 known to work?

[fallow meadow]

@vale iron At least that is what happens in current versions

[vale iron]

Definitely not. Hasn't in years

[lime mesa]

aww man

do you know any mods that improve graphics that are known to work?

[slate veldt]

idk, Prisms kind of surpassed some of those old mods imo

[vale iron]

Sort by Last Updated or restrict your searches to recent

[slate veldt]

FineLOD helps with pop-in though, if thats what youre after

[vale iron]

ArghWater makes the water look really good. I don't know of any others that are still active, but I don't follow that closely

[slate veldt]

oh right, ArghWater

Unpopular opinion, but I really think the old water was pretty terrible.
I just don't see the appeal in it personally.

[lime mesa]

i really want a mod that makes space look better

[vale iron]

Like what do you want it to look like? Better is really subjective

[lime mesa]

more like you can see nebulas in the background type stuff

i saw a mod that had that but it doesnt work

[fallow meadow]

@slate veldt Another thing to keep in mind is the fact that values as edited in the JSON, will stay that way in some cases. When you change RealityIndex to 256 for example, it will still show 256 after having loaded in and having saved again, even though you are now in Euclid. Not sure the same happens in the old version, but be aware of this, as this may be part reason of the convoluted debate.

[slate veldt]

uh

vanilla game has nebulas and stuff

super visible now since Prisms

[lime mesa]

ive never seen nebulas in vanilla before

[slate veldt]

seriously??

[lime mesa]

yea

[slate veldt]

not sure what to tell you, they are definitely in the vanilla game

[lime mesa]

never seen something like that before

[slate veldt]

gotta get out there and explore

[lime mesa]

usually my sky is really blank

[slate veldt]

Hmm, i dont think its related to settings

[vale iron]

Maybe black space with nebulae?
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1471/

[slate veldt]

Not every system will have visible nebula/gas clouds

[lime mesa]

i really like that mod

does it work?

[slate veldt]

march 2020...probably not 🤷‍♂️

[vale iron]

It does

According to l02k. I haven't tested it recently

[slate veldt]

lol, i never know with old mods

[vale iron]

I did test it late last year though

[lime mesa]

2.0 or 2.1

[slate veldt]

l02k is usually on it, so maybe
I think they also post a list of their currently working mods

that or im thinking of other well known modders

[vale iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/880

Plenty of useful stuff there

[slate veldt]

Alright, just to recap, if I save in the space station, then I should only have to change this bit in the save, right?

[fallow meadow]

Works for me at least, yes

[slate veldt]

ok, if I fuck it up, I can just overwrite a previous save and it should load back in fine

[fallow meadow]

Make sure you have a proper backup

Then overwriting the edited save should revert it

[slate veldt]

The old game had 3 saves

So saving over one of the 3 for that playthrough updates it as teh most recent to load

kind of like using a manual save to overwrite the autosave nowadays

that was a shit description, ignore it lmao

[fallow meadow]

Why does the wiki say you can reach Yilsrussimil with a Save Editor?

Was this still possible in Visions?

[vale iron]

Because there's bad info on the wiki 😛

[slate veldt]

Because you can put in 256 in the save editor. Also, the save editor decided to keep Yilsrussmisl in the list of galaxies

Idk why tho

[vale iron]

You definitely can't anymore

[fallow meadow]

At least it doesn't say it is a different galaxy, other than name/colour

[slate veldt]

Wiki being the wiki lol

[fallow meadow]

Well, I just put 256 in the save and it spawned me in Euclid

[vale iron]

Yeah, they fixed that around Origins

[slate veldt]

Right, but its not

The galaxy map just says euclid

And the system names in the map are incorrect

[fallow meadow]

Oh well, live research in progress, way more fun than discussing wiki data

[slate veldt]

Yeah, this is the same results i had

Ah fuck, the game isnt loading my saves at all currently

[vale iron]

You used to be able to put any value you wanted for the galaxy and it would generate a procgen name, but actual experience as above

[slate veldt]

Havent even save edited yet

[vale iron]

I still have a list of some of the names and values

[lime mesa]

All the mods from that list work

Well all the ones I picked

[vale iron]

Ah, I only have some of the negative values and names saved

[lime mesa]

Btw @vale iron that space mod for the nebulas is what I was looking for

[vale iron]

Great!

[lime mesa]

I also got a realistic icons mod

And ngl it’s so cool

[slate veldt]

Oh wow @fallow meadow i think my install is actually broken 😅

No galaxy during load

[fallow meadow]

Awwww

[vale iron]

With just that save edit?

[slate veldt]

I didnt even save edit yet

[vale iron]

Oh, that sucks

[slate veldt]

I recently update nvidia drivers though, so maybe i need to revert

[lime mesa]

I used an anomaly detector and it spawned a black hole

[slate veldt]

I hear myself running, jetpacking, etc

White screen with system name on it

Menu opens at least

Gonna try it in bordered window

Also a no lol

[lime mesa]

Is there a mod that gives units or increases the units you receive from doing/selling things

[slate veldt]

@vale iron or @fallow meadow, any idea as to how to fix?
Any files I could delete and allow to be rebuilt?

Actually, let me try reverting the driver for now and i'll get back to you

[slate veldt]

Argh
Reverting the driver didnt help

At this point, either the install is screwed or my VR headset is causing issues

[fallow meadow]

Hmmm, so 258 would be Gukarbolez?

[vale iron]

Not sure, only have some negative names

[fallow meadow]

From what I am seeing currently, Yilsrussimil is the same as Odyalutai

Both have the same Station name, same 5 planets, same everything

[vale iron]

You're testing current version?

[fallow meadow]

Yes, this is with current version