nms-modding

[hasty pelican]

that conflict with it.

[vale iron]

There are definitely some mods that are crashing the game right now

I had to remove half of mine

[hasty pelican]

I'll try to remove the GShips and see if it goes.

yeah, it crashes even without the GShip mods

how do i even know which mods crash the game

[vale iron]

Just start removing half your mods until it stops crashing, then you can add them back in. Start with the ones that edit Globals, if you know which those are

[hearty wasp]

you remove each mod and start the game

game not crash = mod removed crash game

[hasty pelican]

Alright, i'll tell you guys when i found the problem

Ok, the game seems to run now.

With Gumsk mod working too.

Wait, what do you mean by Save edit?

[hearty wasp]

editing your save

usually with a save editor

that's how the save gets edited

anyway you can try NMSSE or NomNom

both are on GitHub and prolly Nexus I think

[hasty pelican]

Which do you recomend more?

[hearty wasp]

both prolly works just as well

flip a coin if you have difficulty choosing

that's my trick

[hasty pelican]

And what about the Golden Vector, how do i change that?

[hearty wasp]

I mean you can get the ship in game

if not I think the Gumsk's mod page has directions in the descriptions too

[hasty pelican]

I'll take a look at it.

I already had installed a grumsk mod and i never noticed, lol.

and, the game crashes again

found the issue

I dont understand what he means by saying, use the appropriate emote to spawn the ship you want

Oh, nevermind i got it.

Yeah, the mod works pretty well and its also really well made.

[vale iron]

Glad it's working. You can thank @hearty wasp , monkeyman, and kibbles for it working well. I just learned from them and did more of it 🙂

[steel crypt]

DUD'S SKY - COLORS updated v3.83.3
(Replaced half of Peach skies with multiple rare blue skies. There was too much Peach!)
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/968

[lime mesa]

Anyone have the seed code for the golden vector ???

[waxen cedar]

in save editor it showed 0x0

but idk

doesn't seem logical to be such an easy seed

[lime mesa]

Do you have a save with it?
(and if so, could you send it to me so I can look at how it is? Ive heard there are some weird things about those, so I was wondering if I could take a look, if not totally fine 😄 )

[waxen cedar]

my main one. Never dared to touch the seed but only wanted to see how it was

[lime mesa]

Its got something to do with a combination of both the seed, questline, and the season rewards I think, not sure tho

I think for it to work all of them have to be set to certain values

[waxen cedar]

Yeah, it's not just the seed I think

[lime mesa]

I know at least the "claimed final reward" has to be true.

At first I thought it was a online-thing

Like it was added directly to your account, but the fact that you can find it in the save file and stuff is weird. There also might be something below the seed, because isnt 0x0 just normal alpha vector?

[waxen cedar]

Oh right, might be. There is definitely some extra fiddling to do

[lime mesa]

Question: Do you use the goatfungus save editor? And could you try "exporting" the ship using the ship export button and sending it to me lol, im really curious

[vale iron]

It's not just a seed

It's effectively a different ship type

A variation on the fighter

[waxen cedar]

weird that you can still "trade" the ship to someone without it

by exchanging the vector to npc ship and then letting the other player claim it

[vale iron]

If you want to save edit it, you have to edit raw JSON, then under ShipOwnership, change the Filename to MODELS/COMMON/SPACECRAFT/FIGHTERS/FIGHTERCLASSICGOLD.SCENE.MBIN

[waxen cedar]

isn't it bound to revert back to normal fighter if the one getting it didn't complete pioneers

[vale iron]

Nope

Unless they changed something in 3.4

[lime mesa]

Oh really?

Tysm

<3

So do you have to get a ship with 0x0 seed, and then replace that?

[vale iron]

You could also just use the GShip Custom summoner and all of them will show as Golden Vectors if you don't have GShip Custom installed

[waxen cedar]

"Official" way to trade ships would be neat. As well as proper trade screen for items rather than letting everyone in anomaly be your personal trash can

[vale iron]

No, any seed works unless you have a mod that takes advantage of it

[lime mesa]

Yeah, I feel like they should make player-made trading outposts, where official trades can be set up.

[lime mesa]

Oh it was literally as easy as that, lmfao Im dumb tysm

[vale iron]

Nah, not dumb. It's a whole new mechanic with 3.3 that would have never worked before

[lime mesa]

Yeah, it used to be super simple

you just edit seed

then bam

[waxen cedar]

Also you can really be a pain to last gen console players with the item dropping. They get lag for several seconds upon receiving items xD

literally freezing their game

[vale iron]

I got it to load a fifth filename, but then it 'corrects' itself to a default explorer :/

[waxen cedar]

So sad that sentinel ships have no seed

[vale iron]

GShip Custom 🙂

[lime mesa]

Is it possible to edit the hyperdrive range using JSON editing to make it stupid?

or is it capped at 1k

[vale iron]

Yes it is

Not sure if there is a cap

But the base range caps at 80 normally, so anything over that starts making adjacency bonuses crazy pretty quickly

[lime mesa]

yeah, i edited a starship without json and got it to over 19k
yeah uhh nvm, i save edited it directly and got 69420

Wait... is it possible to save edit the beachhead in then?

Or is it literally not out yet

[waxen cedar]

the stuff is not finished at all

[vale iron]

What do you mean? I heard there is a ship, but pretty sure it's just a seed value

[lime mesa]

isnt the beachhead just a golden dreadlock freighter?

[waxen cedar]

Nop

it was banner, some cosmetic buildables and a title

and the thing

[lime mesa]

nah ur kidding right?

[vale iron]

Everyone is really hung up on that golden freighter idea. Has there been any confirmation at all about that? I keep telling people it's just an image on a decal

[lime mesa]

Oh yeah, I got a bugged title now, so now I have a title that is like literal code of the game

[waxen cedar]

Nope. No confirmation.

[lime mesa]

Well, I assumed cause the golden alpha vector was the decal for last time

[waxen cedar]

every reward is just IDs, placeholder textures and debug text

[vale iron]

Yeah, I see where people are getting the idea, but there's nothing in the code that anyone has found to indicate anything

[waxen cedar]

This season seems to be a rushed teaser for something bigger

in my opinion

[lime mesa]

Question, would it be possible to edit and get yourself a custom title?
I would really want the "of yilsrumisil" title

but its not real

[vale iron]

You could make a title that only you see

[lime mesa]

Ah

[vale iron]

Just edit the language file

[waxen cedar]

or they purposefully left the stuff out so modders won't spoil the things so easily to everyone

[vale iron]

hah, yeah

Otherwise it would all have been out last night

[lime mesa]

might actually do that

[vale iron]

I would love if they did a custom freighter though. Would make it a lot easier to make my own custom freighters

[waxen cedar]

One speculation is that this might function similarly to void egg

[vale iron]

It doesn't

At least not yet

[lime mesa]

Its not in the game im pretty sure

[waxen cedar]

Yeh, no functionality

[lime mesa]

you cant even save edit it in

I think

[waxen cedar]

doesn't it send out a scan when used?

[vale iron]

I gave it to myself last night and tried it in several situations. Plus it only costs 80qs

Yeah, it does a scan effect, in ship or on ground

Pretty short range one, too

[lime mesa]

#nms-photomode-gallery lmfao

[waxen cedar]

Well it will locate something then

[waxen cedar]

was there values for the scan range?

[lime mesa]

What is the 4th and 5th thing for the phase anyway ?

[vale iron]

I didn't look. I didn't look through the entity file either to see if that gave clues

[lime mesa]

even when I save edited it in, didnt reveal it

[vale iron]

Might have had the wrong ID

I put one of each in last night

[lime mesa]

yeah maybe

[vale iron]

MYSTERY_BEACON and MYSTERY_TRACKER

[waxen cedar]

none of the rewards this season will have any physical objects except maybe the beachhead decal pack?

[lime mesa]

I really hope its a golden freighter tbh

i doubt it will be

but just the golden vector is so s*** and so would that (not sure if swear words work but idk)

[waxen cedar]

Would be silly to have a fancy freigher badge there and then just give a banner and some decals

[lime mesa]

mhm

my biggest flex is I still have my original alpha vector ship lmfao

the non-gold and non-save edited

[vale iron]

Yeah, I always keep that and max it out

[waxen cedar]

That can also be found in wild. I got mine like that

[lime mesa]

no i mean the pre-order alpha vector with the original color scheme

[vale iron]

Different color scheme, though, right?

[lime mesa]

Yeah

[vale iron]

Yeah, I mean the same thing. I always use "Iteration One" as well

[lime mesa]

the pre-order alpha vector https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Alpha_Vector looks exactly like this, no variation.

yeah

it looks pretty cool

and is big flex if u didnt save edit it in

[waxen cedar]

so sad I moved from console to pc so no day one trophies to show

[vale iron]

save edit yourself a horizon omega 🙂

[waxen cedar]

Prefer not to on my main save. I'll rather find it. Btw I prefer alpha vector over horizon

but the nose is somewhat annoying in 1st person

on alpha vector styled ships

[lime mesa]

same

Question: Why do the polo, artemis, and green starship trail get a boost together??? I always thought it was weird but

[waxen cedar]

all the trails and bobbleheads give boost

[lime mesa]

yeah, but they are like the combined things

they have the circle indicating they go together

for those three only

[waxen cedar]

weird stuffs

[lime mesa]

#nms-photomode-gallery

[waxen cedar]

they've always been confusing stat wise

[lime mesa]

yeah

but its just what causes it do that

is it like similar to "coconut.jpg" for TF2, and for some reason its just there? Like coconut.jpg holds the entire TF2, without it, everything fails. But like is it similar to that or just a bug?

[waxen cedar]

Probably they are just repurposes of some existing tech type which causes them to group up

[lime mesa]

Possibly to save edit a custom title into the game (even if for just one person to see). If so, how would you do this?

[lime mesa]

How would you do this? I get the editing the language file, I’m just terrible at doing so, and don’t really know how. ?

[hearty wasp]

you just

decomp the file, find the right section with ID references to the Title table, then edit the English words

[hasty pelican]

im probably gonna install alot of your mods from now on, i already had the GMech mod and it was amazing.

[lime mesa]

Where can I find this section? Is there an easy place I can search with control+f or somthing?

[hearty wasp]

title table

in the metadata folders

the actual text is referenced in that table with an ID

[lime mesa]

tysm

[hasty pelican]

Do you guys know some cool mods that you recomend me to get?

had to delete most of them cause of game-crashing issues.

[hearty wasp]

just browse nexus for last updated

[spring vessel]

Has the purpose of the ||myth beacon|| been datamined?

[lucid bone]

No.

[spring vessel]

Guess I'll just have to wait a week then 🙂

[lucid bone]

From what I know, nothing is known about it, and Phase 5-4 and Phase 5-5 arent even implemeted in the game yet and wont be until incredibly close to finishing community research. From my own code checking, only the rewards are avaliable.

[spring vessel]

oh that's interesting, so HG will have to patch the game before we can finish?

that's one way of keeping the ending secret i guess

[lucid bone]

Yes, Im pretty sure this is correct. Even if it is, its encrypted with their own custom font, meaning if it is possible to determine, we don't know. Even with it being their own font, we dont have enough custom-font to english to determine what they are. I've already deciphered some of the font characters to english, but not enough

[hearty wasp]

I mean even some of the texts of currently existing objectives aren't in the game

[lucid bone]

mhm

[hearty wasp]

it's gonna take a day or two for HG to fix their own oopsies

[fallow meadow]

What font and how is this related to the Myth Beacon?

[hearty wasp]

prolly the ones on the badges

[fallow meadow]

But that's just story, sure we have to decrypt those missions, but nothing to do with any font that I know of

[lucid bone]

there is a custom font that HG made. I figured out some characters to english, but not all.

[fallow meadow]

It is like travellers talk ... kzzzttt

[fallow meadow]

But how is that related to the actual phase 5 missions?

[lucid bone]

It allows us to figure out the rewards and challanges even tho they aent uto

arent out

[hearty wasp]

eh, the only mystery I saw it helped was the words on the egg mahcine

lore stuff doesn't hold any value in how it works for me lol

[lucid bone]

The font used in the Phase 5 is custom, decoding it allows us to figure out Phase 5-4 and Phase 5-5 easier 🙂

[fallow meadow]

To me these are two separate things, the font used in some of the textures and the decryption as a story element in Phase 5

[hearty wasp]

wonder where the decal textures for em are

[fallow meadow]

Figuring out the font is not going to help you solve any missions

[hearty wasp]

hey uhh, got a screenie of said screen?

it's not gonna help getting to know what the mission stages are, I'm just curious

[fallow meadow]

They are in one of the Icons folders ... patches has a few

[lucid bone]

I agree, but currently we dont know what Phase 5-4 and Phase 5-5 rqequire.

[hearty wasp]

oh yeah I should just check the list of new files

[lucid bone]

So if we do know, it might make it easier to solve when they come out

[hearty wasp]

spongebob professional.jpg

it'll be easy to solve when we can read the mission stages themselves

[fallow meadow]

We do know, it requires the Myth Beacon

[hearty wasp]

frankly, lore is irrelevant when compared to mission logic

[lucid bone]

Yeah, but not specifically

[fallow meadow]

For all 3 missions by the way

That one mission is completed but not decrypted

[lucid bone]

I just have been trying to get ahead and prepare.

[hearty wasp]

ahh

[lucid bone]

But like I said, i could be really wrong

[hearty wasp]

TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\ENCRYPTED.PATCH.2.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.BEACON.1.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.BEACON.2.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.CAVEWALKER.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.CRASHFREIGHTER.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.DISCOVERSYSTEM.2.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.DOSIMETER.1.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.DOSIMETER.2.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.EXOCRAFT.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.EXPEDITION.2.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.FIRSTPLANET1.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.FIRSTPLANET2.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.INTERSTELLARFREIGHTER.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.SCRAPPER.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.SHIP1.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.SHIP2.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.SHIPFLYING1.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH.VISITCRASHFREIGHTER.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH2.PARTY.1.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH2.PARTY.2.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH2.PARTY.3.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH2.PARTY.4.DDS
TEXTURES\UI\FRONTEND\ICONS\EXPEDITION\PATCH2.PARTY.5.DDS

[lucid bone]

yeah

[hearty wasp]

just in the expedition folder

[spring vessel]

I think my best guess would be that the myth beacon unlocks some instanced content, kind of like the broadcast receiver

[hearty wasp]

yeah, prolly some forced interaction

[lucid bone]

Well its something to do with summoning right?

[hearty wasp]

there are new mission related structs too

[fallow meadow]

I agree and we have discussed plenty of what is to come in #nms-spoilers

[hearty wasp]

GcMissionConditionNearestBuilding and GcMissionConditionInteractionIndexChanged

[fallow meadow]

Can pretty much tell what the rewards are and what is coming next

[hearty wasp]

if not already used in previous stages, will prolly be used in next stages

[lucid bone]

yeah the reward were easy to find, but what is the specific requirements ????

!tier

[hardy aurora]

@lucid bone

ANOMALOUS RESEARCH

Tier: 1 of 1, Progress: 17%.

[hearty wasp]

...not that anyone can extrapolate from their experience to figure out if they've been used already

[spring vessel]

... you know that's marching on pretty fast now, could be unlocked tomorrow

[fallow meadow]

I think that is best discussed in #nms-spoilers This is modding talk

[lucid bone]

I mean its modding since we are digging in the games code, so wouldnt that be modding?

But ill go there sorry

[hearty wasp]

textures generally don't really influence how the game works

except when you messes up the compression and it causes the game to crash

like I do frequently

[fallow meadow]

It's not for me to decide, just feel it's the best place for it

I agree it can have some overlap

[hearty wasp]

feel free to show us that font in action btw

[fallow meadow]

Either way, if you look through source, you know what is going to happen

[hearty wasp]

cos I can't find the font preview or the font file in the files

[fallow meadow]

That font is only used in textures/images. The font itself is not included

[hearty wasp]

yeah that's what I thought

I was half taking a urination

[fallow meadow]

Same as Zephyr Jubilee which is used for several decals

[hearty wasp]

wonder where the egg machine decals are

nvm found it

huh, thought the cooking shop has a decal as well

[spring vessel]

Is the font applied as a decal or are the textures all flattened?

[hearty wasp]

the egg machine one is a decal

they usually don't bake decals into the texture

since surface textures are usually tiling

[spring vessel]

Interesting, so not too tricky for someone to replace it with the standard alphabet

[hearty wasp]

sure you can

how're these for a translation lel

[jagged crag]

So Um, is there a way to trick the game to speed up the living membrane? 😄

[hearty wasp]

the what

[jagged crag]

Asking for a friend 😄

[hearty wasp]

the living ship shit?

[jagged crag]

Ya

[hearty wasp]

if so yes

search on Nexus

"timer" or something as the keyword

[jagged crag]

Thanks 😄

[hearty wasp]

or living ship

[lucid bone]

yeah

[jagged crag]

Lol, "Downloads for non-premium is limited to 2 MB/s" Psh, that's way faster than 56k, I wasted my young life downloading 500MB games on 56k, I have no need for such exuberant speeds!

[jagged crag]

None of the mods work with this update 😄 No fun!

[lime mesa]

[hearty wasp]

prolly just need a week to have the compiler update

[jagged crag]

Ya

I am at the 3rd one, so I hopefully will be done soon lol

[hearty wasp]

huh

wonder how much the game would choke on a switch

[amber zealot]

have those icons always been there? or are they new?

[hearty wasp]

could be years old, could be months

since no one ever cared about these textures

[jagged crag]

Are they for the camera function? Like, zoom, and reset kinda buttons?

[hearty wasp]

button prompts

[hushed bronze]

probably just for Steam because it can run switch controllers

[hearty wasp]

that too

[hearty wasp]

maybe the channel called #memes🤡 would be suitable for memes

also the meme in question isn't related to modding

[bleak ferry]

I use no charge mod, so..

[hearty wasp]

encountering a vanilla mechanic you don't like simply means you don't mod enough

modding is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural

[bleak ferry]

alright then. off it goes in meme channel

[hasty pelican]

Is there any mod that brings black holes to creative mode?

[hearty wasp]

creative mode don't have blackholes?

[lime mesa]

"Modding is also a pathway to abilities that many players would consider unfair" -Yerin

[waxen cedar]

they do

[hearty wasp]

yeah that got me confused

[waxen cedar]

maybe they meant black hole locating default on

[lime mesa]

Anyone have a mod that allows you to have a custom title? I really want one that allows me to have a title like "The Flames of Yerin" or similar, is so please dm me
yes I know it would only be for me

`I understand how you have to do it, I just cant find the language folder even once unpacked

[hearty wasp]

then it's not unpacked properly

use AMUMSS's unpacker and try again

[lime mesa]

wayyy to complicated for me. ty. I'm really bad at modding so I dont really understand it, im trying to figure it out, but ty

[waxen cedar]

I wouldn't bother trying to make one since it won't show up to others and that's the entire point of titles

[lime mesa]

Yeah, I guess. It would still be nice because I tend to record a lot, and my own custom one would be cool. Plus I rarely play with people since I have cough cough no friends

[half shadow]

Hey, sorry if this sounds like a noob question, I've tried search and on reddit.
Is there ANY way at all to do expeditions 1 again? Reddit mentioned it's server locked. Isn't there anything I can do on my end? I really just want to enjoy it on my own pace after being absent for so long. Feeling sad that I can't have cross save unlockables.

I don't really want to save edit the rewards in. I was really hoping to play through the expedition and unlock achievements/triggers/whatever in a timely pace

[waxen cedar]

No way to play it again. It's essentially a season like this one. Seasons will come and go. Some good, some better, some worse. Every time a new experience so no matter what, there is always a chance for you to try one of them

Only legit way to acquire the golden vector would be to get one from a player

And the second option is to just mod the rewards for yourself

[half shadow]

The rewards I could probably live without. As I'vev seen, you could treat them as early starts and cosmetics right?
Are there missable achievements or something?

I just wanted to "legit-ly" trigger those if possible

[waxen cedar]

None of the 1st seasons rewards were anything that is "must have"

the current one on the other hand seems to have something weird going on

[half shadow]

alright, thanks for the info. I don't suppose there's any way to know that these things could eventually rotate is there

[wanton salmon]

So I've been a bit busy also waiting for some bug fixes to play season 1. Originally I saw it as two buns and I thought I would have some time but apparently I guess season 2 is out now. So is there any possibilities or chances I can play it anymore through modding?

I'm wondering if there's a way to bring back season 1 through modding or maybe downgrading my client back to one version? I'm not even sure if that would work.

It's not to unlock the rewards I missed I know I can add them through a file I believe on the client it's more like I wanted to just go through it and try each of the seasons I really derped up here.

[hearty wasp]

not atm

[hearty wasp]

the mushrooms glow like in vanilla thankfully

[fair crown]

Any idea when that mod that allows you to tame pretty much anything will be updated?

[hearty wasp]

no

we are modders and sadly do not have the ability to telepathy

[hearty wasp]

cursed

[left sentinel]

genuinely

[hearty wasp]

spent like an hour on these triceratops just to discover their vertex groups are fucked

wonder if there are other mid sized pre release creatures I can use

[waxen cedar]

@hearty wasp so your mod literally has nearly every structure from the game, right?

[hearty wasp]

nah

I prolly only got less than 1% of actual possible combinations of trees

I just use the more distinctive ones so it looks enough

not to mention I don't make parts with no exterior e.g. space station interior or Nexus parts

that's more Kibs's territory

[waxen cedar]

so you still got exterior of space stations etc?

[hearty wasp]

nah

too big for my liking

[waxen cedar]

maybe if scaled down they would look nice

[hearty wasp]

ehh, I don't see a use for it personally

[waxen cedar]

now add buildable planets

[hearty wasp]

lmao

[odd crater]

What are you trying, here?

[hearty wasp]

just stationary buildable animatronic animals

don't wanna do the release version ones cos those are heavy on resources

forgot they use ragdoll physics so they just roll around

[odd crater]

lol

cursed indeed

[hearty wasp]

does the vanilla volcano spew out flaming rocks on eruption

cos this one's only spewing normal rocks

[waxen cedar]

Dunno. Think they have some glowing sprite to them

[hearty wasp]

I think the fire is summoned by the planetary storm

which in turn is summoned by the volcano

anyway, I can't be arsed

[waxen cedar]

aren't the rocks just leaving some ugly ass particles behind them?

haven't looked at volcano eruptions in a while

[hearty wasp]

I saw no particles either

[waxen cedar]

okay so it's just rocks

and smoke

[hearty wasp]

yeah no smoke from this one

idk why

only rocks

[steel crypt]

Change rocks to popcorn and you're golden

[hearty wasp]

lmao

[waxen cedar]

HG had donut rocks before

[neat falcon]

Hey all. Would anyone by chance have a game save with all of the expeditions completed? I would like to obtain one for some testing purposes. 🙂

[vale moat]

Quick help needed, i need to mod my save file to add Launch Fuel to two of my six ships that are now 'lost' due to a change "fix" made by HG in recent update, i heard there's a save editor, can anyone help me on this?

[vale moat]

Deed done, ty.

[kind rivet]

What’d you have to do?

[vale iron]

Probably google 'Github Goatfungus', get the NMSSE, and refill the launch thrusters. Or something along those lines

Not meaning to sound snarky there

[lethal needle]

nmsse any% speedrun wr

[merry wasp]

@vale iron They ddi change the Inventorytable i think, as this is the first time i see this tbh

[vale iron]

That sounds familiar to me, as the base inventory size I guess? I would need to check old copies

[vale moat]

Exactly what @vale iron said, though it was only to fix the "fix", i will forever be recharging my Lift Thrusters now, lol.

[kind rivet]

So there are ways to just implant you own wants into the game via save editors?

[vale moat]

Do not go there... the dark side beckons, you... must... resist!... arrgh...

Yes, and it will ruin the fun and the game. (for most ppl.)

[kind rivet]

Not for me. I’ve done everything except for expedition but someone it wasn’t worth it.

[hearty wasp]

Modding is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural

[hearty wasp]

nice glow

[hearty wasp]

turns out I just turned off my particles and that's why I only saw rocks on the volcanic eruptions

[hearty wasp]

this looking finna sick

[hushed bronze]

Lol finna is "fixing to"

[lean saffron]

Anyone know off-hand what blocks the use of signal boosters super early on? I save edited the blueprint in and crafted one, but the Locate button is perpetually grayed out. Currently in the starter ship repair phase, after hermetic seal repair step.

[hushed bronze]

What

You have navigation data?

[lean saffron]

I'm doing a challenge where I ignore the starter ship (Radiant Pillar) and venture off into the wilderness instead.

Nav data shouldn't be required for the Signal Booster iirc, but maybe I goofed and forgot

[hushed bronze]

Well that challenge is only challenging until you find a different ship :)

But year afaik signal booster uses nav data's like a fuel cartridge

[lean saffron]

Hmm I guess I'll be able to confirm that soon enough.

[hushed bronze]

Also why do a challenge and then use save edit? Lol

[lean saffron]

And yes, the challenge doesn't necessarily last very long.

[hearty wasp]

I'll be brutalising more teen slangs in the future in a true boomer fashion

[hushed bronze]

Wonderful

[lean saffron]

I'm testing different variations. Just for fun. I've done it without save edits a few times already.

[hearty wasp]

it hella be very swag

[hushed bronze]

I look forward to your pseudo mockery of ridiculous slang :)

[hearty wasp]

I prolly won't even consciously do it

[hushed bronze]

@lean saffron are you working on a challenge mod?

[hearty wasp]

I think I'm gonna look to diving into mission tables again after this Eucli-ea update

hopefully we can find where the block is

[hushed bronze]

It's not a block, he just forgot about nav data

[hearty wasp]

oh ok

didn't know it takes nav data for even the built stuff now

[lean saffron]

Yeah, the basic Signal Booster locate function doesn't require nav data.

Just confirmed it.

To be clear, I have nav data now and the button is still grayed out. (I was fairly sure before.)

So it's something related to the early missions, I'm guessing. One of the steps prior to acquiring the base computer blueprint (or that step).

I guess I'll return to the ship and complete it's repairs, so I can rule that out.

Ok it's the starship functions test step(s). Right after testing all three functions and landing, and just before answering the first incoming message, the Locate function became available.

[quasi plank]

If I used mods to decorate my house can an unmodded person visit?

[whole pond]

I dnt think they would see any of the mods

us console players have no way of seeing PC mods

hell, we cant even talk to PC players

[hearty wasp]

6th line up from the bottom all caps line

[quasi plank]

How do I get a proper sync with better planet generation?

[hearty wasp]

wym "sync"

this some assassin's creed thing I'm missing out on?

[little sundial]

ill pay someone to make a full render mod. I want to see the grass/mushrooms glow as far as I can see them lol

Im confident my pc can run it(most likely)

[hallow pumice]

Yeah uh okay 😂

[steel crypt]

@hushed bronze No, he's saying "Fine....Hehyyy"

[hushed bronze]

oh that makes sense

[steel crypt]

No, it probably doesn't. I just made that shit up. Who knows what the hell's in Winder's head. Do you want to know? No. You don't.

I'm pretty sure he was using finna like you said.

[steel crypt]

@glass lake What mods?

[hearty wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/771
Added "Welcoming Ships" Emote
Added "Seeing Ships Off" Emote
Added "Falling Forwards" Emote
Added "Falling Backwards" Emote

[glass lake]

Your terrain mod, duds colors, Redmas odyssey mod, better planet gen, and parallel universe atomospherics rework

[hearty wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1956
get your Mako today to go with the Normandy!

[hearty wasp]

now let's see if I can buy a boat

[hearty wasp]

I can

I did

[steel crypt]

@dawn haven Mods that change these files will most likely not work:
K:\Gaming\NMS\Modding\Unpacking\MBIN\GCAISPACESHIPGLOBALS.GLOBAL.MBIN >>> Could not decompile! K:\Gaming\NMS\Modding\Unpacking\MBIN\GCFLEETGLOBALS.GLOBAL.MBIN >>> Could not decompile! K:\Gaming\NMS\Modding\Unpacking\MBIN\GCPLAYERGLOBALS.GLOBAL.MBIN >>> Could not decompile! K:\Gaming\NMS\Modding\Unpacking\MBIN\MODELS\PLANETS\BIOMES\COMMON\BUILDINGS\PARTS\WARRIORPARTS\LAYOUTS\LAYOUT_ABANDONED5.GEOMETRY.MBIN.PC >>> Could not decompile! K:\Gaming\NMS\Modding\Unpacking\MBIN\MODELS\PLANETS\BIOMES\COMMON\BUILDINGS\PARTS\WARRIORPARTS\LAYOUTS\LAYOUT_GENERIC_ABANDONED5.GEOMETRY.MBIN.PC >>> Could not decompile! K:\Gaming\NMS\Modding\Unpacking\MBIN\MODELS\PLANETS\BIOMES\COMMON\BUILDINGS\PARTS\WARRIORPARTS\LAYOUTS\LAYOUT_RIGHTROOMABANDONED.GEOMETRY.MBIN.PC >>> Could not decompile! K:\Gaming\NMS\Modding\Unpacking\MBIN\METADATA\INPUTTEST.MBIN >>> Could not decompile! K:\Gaming\NMS\Modding\Unpacking\MBIN\METADATA\SIMULATION\MISSIONS\COMMUNITYMISSIONTABLE.MBIN >>> Could not decompile! K:\Gaming\NMS\Modding\Unpacking\MBIN\METADATA\SIMULATION\MISSIONS\SEASONALMISSIONTABLE.MBIN >>> Could not decompile! K:\Gaming\NMS\Modding\Unpacking\MBIN\METADATA\REALITY\TABLES\FRIGATEFLYBYTABLE.MBIN >>> Could not decompile! K:\Gaming\NMS\Modding\Unpacking\MBIN\METADATA\REALITY\TABLES\REWARDTABLE.MBIN >>> Could not decompile!

[dawn haven]

thx.. I got it work again.. I removed these..

Don't know which one of those was the problematic one.. but now it works.. and I don't bother to do more investigations now.. happy for now 🙂

[heavy oar]

uhhh

now i wonder if we could make the SR1 a freighter

[hearty wasp]

do you think? https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1018

it's not a matter of "can we", but of "who's gonna be arsed to do it"

[heavy oar]

yeah well take the SR2 or SR1 model and there u go

[hearty wasp]

ye

[heavy oar]

i bet there the model that hg has here that can be used for it

[hearty wasp]

I doubt it

[desert kettle]

Yeah I think this crossover might be a one time thing

so they probably dont have a model and if they do its highly unlikely.

[kindred panther]

Is it possible to import/export freighters?

[hearty wasp]

wym

by seed?

if so sure

[kindred panther]

Not sure what that means per se, but what I would like to do is use my freighter from one save in another save

[hearty wasp]

then yeah by seed

[kindred panther]

similar to how you can import/export multitools

[hearty wasp]

the seed is just for the appearances tho

[kindred panther]

will it still have all the upgrades?

aww

[hearty wasp]

the stats are saved as numbers and you can just copy or jack them up

you can do all that in json if you can and want but try out the save editors

[kindred panther]

kk

bummer, with the multitools it's really easy, basically copy/paste lol

[hearty wasp]

I mean multitools are saved similarly

so it shouldn't be much different

[kindred panther]

pretty big difference IMO

can't seem to use back/restore

[hearty wasp]

well the stats are right above

you can just copy and paste em p easily it looks like

[kindred panther]

Hmm I must be missing something

which part is the stats?

hyperdrive?

[hearty wasp]

ye

the inventory is in a whole different section json wise but you can just change it slot by slot in the gui as well

it's not difficult, just more time consuming

[kindred panther]

Gotcha

Thanks for the info

Guess I have to think about how much I want it lol

[hearty wasp]

you can just change the appearance and change the rest to your hearts content, it's really up to you

[kindred panther]

Appearance doesn't matter much to me. What matters is all the time I put into setting up my freighter in expedition 1 just to have to start over in expedition 2

[hushed bronze]

@steel cryptbru how many drives do you have

[steel crypt]

Lol not my report but yeah

[hearty wasp]

back in the day I had a drive that kept incrementing the drive letter

went from E to like H just by itself

[quasi plank]

Is it possible to make mods profile specific?

[hearty wasp]

no

just force all your family members to play with mods

[hearty wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/367
forgot the last update technically added the frigate product

[quasi plank]

Does everyone in my session need the same terrain generation mod to play?

[hearty wasp]

no

...as per the last line

[quasi plank]

That's not happening on my end. I have better planet generation he doesn't and when my friend approaches he crashes.

[hearty wasp]

then it's a vanilla issue and you should report it to HG's Zendesk

since generation data shouldn't be trasmitted, only player location data and sometimes seeds

generally, I'd recommend any issue happening to vanilla players to be reported to their Zendesk as well

[waxen cedar]

Also with planet generation mods you and your friend will most likely walk through terrain or in the air to each other if both don't have the mod

Since for you there might be a huge mountain or a canyon but for them there might be just a flat field

[hearty wasp]

yep that's the expected behaviour

animals walk on air too

I remember that vividly

as an aside, ship syncing was broken before 3.4 as well and it was fixed a couple updates after, so network issues are something that HG should be informed to possibly fix

[waxen cedar]

Has anyone looked into the S2 end event btw? Like is the moving frigate just a reskinned starship or some deeper level groundwork for possibly moving freighters

[hearty wasp]

you mean the frigate moving slowly in?

[waxen cedar]

or if it's just a model being lerped between two points

and nothing that could be implemented in gameplay

[hearty wasp]

there's a new struct called GcRewardFrigateFlyby if that's what you mean

[waxen cedar]

ah

[hearty wasp]

we haven't gotten into the tables just yet so we dunno its contents

but my guess is that somewhere in or around the struct the type of frigate has to be defined

so we can possibly use it in the reward table and, if anything else, definitely the mission tables

which means someone can possibly put in a reaper and do a big troll

[waxen cedar]

So we could basically define any model to it really

[hearty wasp]

I dunno

could be defined by frigate type

or seed

usually these don't get defined by scene directly

[waxen cedar]

Well I sure hope HG adds more of that type of content this year. Really need some moving action in this static universe

[hearty wasp]

they'd need to get their physics upgraded

[waxen cedar]

Wonder how heavy the entire flyby thing was. It had a real time collision to it

Can't really tell since I have a jebus PC and didn't notice a thing

[hearty wasp]

cars have moving collisions too

I'd say the physics are same as those

or any other animated physics

i.e. 0 context with contact other than it pushes you around jaggedly

[halcyon wave]

Is there a mod that allows you to destroy more things ie. ships?

[fierce dock]

What kind of mods are there? That are client side

[brazen trail]

anybody know how to get to the 3d models for character customization items?

or just how to open the pak files in general

[small valve]

Why do you think they changed the overflight NPC starship engine sound? What else changed with this last 37MB update that landed today?

Other than indicated in patch notes

[lime mesa]

is the sound better? havent played yet today

[small valve]

Just different

[waxen cedar]

sounds dangerous

like a fighter jet fly-by

not quite but similar

[lean saffron]

I have mixed feelings. On the one hand it's more realistic sounding. On the other hand, it didn't take long before I started to hate it. Feels like I'm in/near an airport everywhere I go, while on a planet.

[left sentinel]

I'm in the same camp, it was awesome the first time but quickly became grating just because its so loud

[left sentinel]

landed today? it was added in the 3.41 update not 3.42

[hearty wasp]

can you not shoot ships in space already or do you mean somewhere else

[hearty wasp]

many

check Nexus and sort by last updated

[hearty wasp]

NMSDK for importing models from the game but you need to unpack first anyway, try this and go thru to at least step 2 https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/NoMansSky:0.2.0

[hearty wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1890
Quick update to 3.42, much love to monkeyman and wberto

[left sentinel]

what the FUCK

[hearty wasp]

you piss

and get life support

good mechanic

[left sentinel]

I will not even attempt to argue against that even as a joke

[magic lava]

Awesome

[hearty wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/367?
50 new decorations
Glowing trees
Animatronics that don't kill you at night
A volcano
Spend less, Furnish more

[left sentinel]

big boomers lmao

[brazen trail]

Haven’t tried this quite yet, but it looks like it will work for what I need. Thanks!

[small valve]

Hmm. So is it not just that it "warbles" but it's also rather louder?

[halcyon wave]

ie. A mod that allows you to destroy ships already in space ie. Freighters

[hearty wasp]

then no

p sure it'd break your game if you blow up a freighter

also you can just call freighters freighters lol

[brazen trail]

okay i got the game files unpacked, and i've converted some 3d model files to EXMLs, but then what do i do with EXMLs? can I open them with some program? can I convert them into an STL or OBJ or something?

the MBIN compiler doesn't let me convert MBINs to anything besides EXMLs

or am i looking at the wrong files? i'm in the MODELS folder, and all i've found so far are a whole lot of MBINs

[hearty wasp]

install NMSDK for blender 2.8 first

[brazen trail]

alright, thanks!

[lean saffron]

Imo, it's significantly louder now. I get why they did it, but I'm not sure they took into account the sheer number of ships that happen to pass by overhead somewhere in the vicinity of the player.

Well, maybe it'd be more accurate to say that it's shriller.

[odd crater]

So I didn't go crazy.
They did mess with ships sounds.

[brazen trail]

Sorry to keep bothering y'all, but I'm having trouble setting up NMSDK and Blender to work with MBINCompiler. I've read the info on how to set it up in the GitHub page, but I still can't get it figured out.

[hearty wasp]

what trouble

descript it in detail

[fluid zealot]

OK folks, a dabbler here. I'm trying to update a mod , and GCPLAYERGLOBALS.GLOBAL.MBIN seems to be missing form my game files. WTF?

[hearty wasp]

have you unpacked your game

do you know how mods work in this game

[fluid zealot]

Yes I have and it seems to be missing from the unpacked game files in Modding station.

[hearty wasp]

I see, modding station and psarc tool has been having trouble unpacking everything

try AMUMSS unpacker instead

[fluid zealot]

As far as understanding how they work... not so much.

[hearty wasp]

better yet, with AMUMSS unpacker you can select just that global to be extracted

well, knowing how to unpack your game is a nice first step

[fluid zealot]

OK, back to the bench. Thanks for the help.

[brazen trail]

"For NMSDK to work, it requires MBINCompiler to generate the .mbin files that are read by the game. The easiest way to have MBINCompiler set up is to download the most recent release and register MBINCompiler to the path so that it can be picked up anywhere by Blender. The most recent release of MBINCompiler can be found on the MBINCompiler releases page.

For NMSDK to be able to use MBINCompiler, the program needs to be registered to the path so that it can be called from anywhere on your computer. Open the folder containing the MBINCompiler.exe you just downloaded, open this folder in command line, then enter MBINCompiler.exe register. This will add the folder the .exe is in to the system path, allowing NMSDK to be able to access the program from anywhere."

Here's what it says on the website. My main problem is that I don't know what they mean by the command line.

[hearty wasp]

oh you can ignore that if you can just download the mbincompiler exe

[brazen trail]

oh, cool!

[hearty wasp]

basically this

monkeyman should put this image on his doc

[brazen trail]

okay, got it! everything's working now

thank you for helping!

[hearty wasp]

monkeyman's way too busy on other shit to update anything NMSDK related so I cut some slack on people not knowing what's happening

[fossil temple]

hi, I am traveling internationally and just learned about the mass effect crossover with a stupid end date of may 31. Is there a good mod/cheat around to get the rewards? I have seen some messy solutions on reddit but they are a week or two old.

[hearty wasp]

those solutions still work

and the ID is EXPD_SPEC02

so you can use those methods and that ID

[fossil temple]

thank you for that info

[brazen trail]

i have another problem, i tried to import PLAYERCHARACTER.SCENE.MBIN into Blender and got this error message:

Python: Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Users\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.92\scripts\addons\nmsdk\NMSDK.py", line 802, in execute
importer.render_scene()
File "C:\Users\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.92\scripts\addons\nmsdk\ModelImporter\import_scene.py", line 341, in render_scene
added_obj = self._add_empty_to_scene(obj)
File "C:\Users\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.92\scripts\addons\nmsdk\ModelImporter\import_scene.py", line 593, in _add_empty_to_scene
sub_scene.render_scene()
File "C:\Users\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.92\scripts\addons\nmsdk\ModelImporter\import_scene.py", line 370, in render_scene
self._apply_proc_gen_info()
File "C:\Users\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.92\scripts\addons\nmsdk\ModelImporter\import_scene.py", line 974, in _apply_proc_gen_info
apply_recursively(self.descriptor_data, desc_coll)
AttributeError: 'ImportScene' object has no attribute 'descriptor_data'

location: <unknown location>:-1

I've got a similar message from some other files, does anyone know what this means and how to fix the issue?

[hearty wasp]

use 2.82

NMSDK doesn't officially support 2.9

also make sure the descriptor is in the folder with the scene

if it still doesn't work then try decompiling the descriptor mbin into exml before importing

if that doesn't work then turn off import recursively

[brazen trail]

got it, thanks!

how do i turn off import recursively?

i've decompiled the descriptor into exml, and i'm on blender 2.82 but i'm still getting the error

[hearty wasp]

the check on the import window

[brazen trail]

i don't see anything about that in the import window?

it's just got options for all the file types

there aren't any check boxes or anything

[brazen trail]

oh sorry im dumb

[fallow meadow]

Hmmm, spoiler: ||NORMANDYFRIGATELOD0||

[hearty wasp]

you gonna cut a hole in it?

[fallow meadow]

Maybe ;-)

[waxen cedar]

insert landing pad and interiors

[hearty wasp]

tbh one can probably have bits protruding down the belly and have the wings cover it p well

[fallow meadow]

Even better now ;-)

[waxen cedar]

okay HG broke galactic map music

there isn't any

rip

also some weird humming sound when selecting path to current mission

[jagged crag]

Is there any way to unlock twitch drops with the save editor? Or if you didn't get em you're just boned 😄

[left sentinel]

Not with the editor but by editing a text file

[small valve]

It's clear that this was an intended change tho?

[lean saffron]

Yeah, probably intended. And well intentioned, for sure. There are at least a couple of other sound changes, including a subtle sound effect played when exiting build cam. (I forget if I mentioned that already.)

[waxen cedar]

the same effect plays when exiting galactic map or photo mode cam

[waxen cedar]

umm

WTF

I just had a heart attack

that audio

it almost broke my ears

[shy grove]

ouch! is that the audio stuff ppl are reporting since 3.42?

[waxen cedar]

I guess this is part of it

probably unintentional

[shy grove]

def doesn't sound like it.

[waxen cedar]

well it sounds very ominous at least

kinda like some existing track but with additional spooky techno instruments to it

[shy grove]

yeah, i'm assuming that the changes were intentional, but not the problematic effects.

[waxen cedar]

ye

for example S2 ending music plays twice and overlaps

supermoon

[small valve]

WTF?

It's true that in 4.1 they changed some audio for the first time in a long time

ship noises, etc.

But I've not seen that...

Oh I thought this was the main chan

Hence my explaining it as if it wasn't being discussed already.

Sorry

Yea - that's messed up

[lean saffron]

That gave me the willies just playing the video.

[velvet brook]

hi guys, is nexus mods the only source of mods for the game?

[sinful anvil]

the most reliable one unless im out of the loop

[velvet brook]

i had some visual mods 6 months ago that changed the appearance of the game that are no loner working, i update them through amumss and the game runs with them but they don't work like they used to

any advice for this?

there doesnt seem to be many mods available that work on nexus rn and cba updating them myself to find they dont work anyways

[sinful anvil]

the easiest reason would be that they aren't updated

6 months is a long time for mods with NMS

[velvet brook]

yeah but newer mods arent working either

[sinful anvil]

examples?

[velvet brook]

i just looked into it to get other newer mods only to find them not work either

hold up

[sinful anvil]

ensure you've removed the other ones first ofc

[velvet brook]

ovc, though most mods should still work

if you update them through amumss with the right file

[sinful anvil]

if that's so then installing them one at a time would prove which one is causing an issue

[velvet brook]

they arent conflicting

i don't have a conflict issue

and the game runs

they simply do nothing

[sinful anvil]

ensure that disablemods.txt is removed

[velvet brook]

it is

i am able to run some mods

it's fine, i could trouble shoot simple solutions myself

i just thought you would have a better source of mods than nexus as it's noticeably obsolete and non functional source of mods

[sinful anvil]

well

its not

but you do need to be able to do a bit on your own

i've never had an issue with nexus mods

[velvet brook]

a bit on my own?

[sinful anvil]

since nexus is the main source of mods that i know of its a bit silly that you call it "non-functional"

make sure they're updated and work with the current version of the game

make sure you remove disablemods.txt

[velvet brook]

the list of available mods that work with the game without having to edit the mods myself to make them functional is small

[sinful anvil]

then edit them and fix them

[velvet brook]

thanks @sinful anvil you've been nothing but helpful with this you should offer your advice to more people it's exceptional.

[sinful anvil]

i appreciate it

[waxen cedar]

Yet again HG used the cone light effect with their Mass Effect collab trailer. First time was with the DLSS

Wonder if it's a visual improvement in future build we'll be seeing or just eye candy for trailers

Correct me if I'm wrong but that effect isn't currently in use anywhere except for derelict freighter lights

[pale stream]

Does this mod still work? https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/442

[west needle]

it says on the mod page that it doesn't
there's a link to an updated version though

[pale stream]

Oh im blind then

I'll find

it*

[young nimbus]

Just me, or has anyone else noticed that the frigates tab on goatfungus is unpickable now?

[west needle]

might be something to do with the normandy

[pale stream]

Does anyone know of a mod that adds new freighters and ships?

[west needle]

there isn't anything at the moment for new freighters, but there are a couple of mods that add some different ship designs
there's gship custom, wich allows you to put in some special seeds for the golden vector to change it do different things, and there's also ships of moar, which changes all shuttles into various different ship designs based on ships from other things (e.g. x-wings, flying cars, etc.)
i'm not sure if ships of moar still works though

[lime mesa]

Hi folks, not sure if that's the right place to ask, but could anyone take a look at this expedition game save file and tell me

Why the fuck the game says it's normal mode and has 0 progress on it?

[pale stream]

(I used to have the Mandolorain's ship using that mod it was fun to play around with:) )
I feel there should be mods to add more freighters and ships, not just remodel the current ships and fraighters

[west needle]

i'm not sure if that's possible, but if it is it would be nice to see

[pale stream]

Deffenitly would be nice to see

[lucid sapphire]

is there a mod that makes lush biomes spawn more?

[young nimbus]

If you go to Eissentam galaxy, the whole thing is pretty much one big lush biome

[pale stream]

Do you have the AMUMMS installed?

[lucid sapphire]

what is that?

[pale stream]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/957

This also includes LUA scripted buildable

Useful to grab a folder called DenserForests.lua while also learning how it works

file*

Make sure to read the instructions to not mess anything up

[lucid sapphire]

is it used to make mods?

[hearty wasp]

we're still waiting for kibs to finish up his new ship but he's busy with irl shit

[pale stream]

Yes

[lucid sapphire]

i dont know how to make them

just wanted to know if there is a mod that makes lush planets not as rare

[hearty wasp]

you'll still need it for mod compatibility

so you have to get it anyway 👍

[waxen cedar]

There are galaxies in the game that already do that

[merry wasp]

Before even loading its already marked as normal... also if you're doing expeditions V2, try to disable your mods and see if the issue still persists

[lime mesa]

I don't run any mods

[merry wasp]

weird

[lime mesa]

I dunno why it's marked as normal when I played it yesterday for 3 hours

But I already managed to re-do the whole expedition at once just now

So you don't need to look into it anymore

[merry wasp]

i had an issue before due to mod that marked expeditions as completed

alright

[craggy coral]

Hey guys can anybody share with me their Savegame file for No man skky

Cheers

[fallow meadow]

Might help if you explain your purpose

[craggy coral]

Im trying to get GOATFUNGUS Save editor to work on PS4... I dont have NMS for PC so i cant make my own Save File

So any ones Savegame file would come in handy

[fallow meadow]

Means you would be specifically looking for a Steam save file to use as an example, as NMSSE (Goatfungus) is Steam specific. For PS4 you'd be able to use NomNom which is compatible, but may not be quite up-to-date with Expeditions just yet

[craggy coral]

Yeah i saw NomNom but yeah its out of date.. So i was thinking about extracting the save file as json on both the ps4 and pc

Been looking into the source code of NomNom to see where its supporting the ps4 file and see if goatfungus would implement it as well

Would be nice

[fallow meadow]

You'd need Save Wizard or Save Mounter to even get close to a JSON version. Then you'd have to 'unscramble' all the variable names used in the JSON, or stick with the initial ones (scrambled). There are still several differences between both either way. For example the use of UserIdentification. Lastly you'd need to convert it all back to PS4 format again to actually even work

[craggy coral]

Yeah i already have the PS4 as a json

i have savewizard

did the import and used nomnom

to convert to json

[fallow meadow]

Ok, so yes, that is a start and resembles a Steam save closely, without unscrambling the value names (variables) as NMSSE does, with some minor differences as well

That's as much as I know though. You may wish to ask around here for further specific details, or maybe join the NMS Modding Discord to ask there.

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[craggy coral]

Great thank you

[fluid zealot]

Are PSArc and/or Modding station having trouble unpacking things at the moment? I tried to work on a mod that touches the Player.global file and it doesn't even show in the unpacked files list.

[fallow meadow]

You may need to get the latest MBINC

Then still not all files will decompile. PSARC should work though

[fluid zealot]

I've got 3.42pre1 and no luck

Or is this a wait for MBIN compiler to update?

[hearty wasp]

psarc tool has been having trouble unpacking everything

use AMUMSS unpacker instead

nothing to do with the compiler

[fluid zealot]

Ummmm, looked in there, couldn't find it?

[fallow meadow]

I had no issue unpacking @hearty wasp
Could it be a diff version for PSARC?

[fluid zealot]

Just finished looking at the current download for PSArc, same old same old

[hearty wasp]

if it is then it's what quite a few people are using

cos it's a common occurance by now

[fallow meadow]

I guess I am using a version without issue then

[hearty wasp]

could just be luck

lotta people having problems with NMSDK and descriptors too even tho it's working flawlessly for me

[fluid zealot]

OK, not to sound too dense, but is there an option?

[fallow meadow]

NMSDK might depend on the model attempted as well as import settings used

I use latest Blender without issue (2.92)

[fluid zealot]

OK Thanks guys, TTFN

[hearty wasp]

nah they always get stuck at the player character model

[fallow meadow]

@fluid zealot Yes, PSARC has pretty much not changed in years. I am using Modding Station as well, which has PSARC built in. No issues on my end

Modding Station has not changed in forever either 1.3.0

[fallow meadow]

2.92 requires to disable importing recursively to get it to work. Also users will have to be patient, as it takes a while. Older Blender versions may work well with recursively enabled

[hearty wasp]

nah I've seen people with 2.82 failing too

that's why I said it'as basically luck lol

weird shit for sure

[fallow meadow]

And yes, NMSDK is a work in progress with still a few flaws. I am sure Monkeyman currently has other things on his mind

Also, I do sometimes fix some python code to get things going.

I can share a Blend file for 2.92 if need be, but prefer users to try themselves first

[echo kernel]

Does anyone know what mission in the game files is related to derelict freighters? My game is bugged and it won't let me sell my crew manifests or captain's logs because the mission goes away as soon as I leave the derelict so I'm trying to see if I can edit some value to fix the mission. I looked through them all and wreck_rewards and freighter_dig seem like they're the ones related to the freighters but idk for sure if they're the derelicts or if they're the crashed freighters on a planet's surface

[fallow meadow]

@echo kernel If you need to find a mission name (ID), make sure it is active then save and in the Raw JSON, you look for CurrentMissionID on the left side

[echo kernel]

I can't save while the lost in space mission is active since it disappears once I leave the derelict

[fallow meadow]

hmm

[echo kernel]

I found a mission progress folder though, is that where it might be?

[fallow meadow]

That is where it keeps track of missions

What exactly is the issue with the selling of Crew Manifest and Captain's Log? You are trying to sell them to the scrap dealer for tainted metal, right?

[echo kernel]

Yes but when I go to the station there's no marker indicating that I can sell to either the merchant or the guild rep. When I interact with them there's also no option to sell either item

[fallow meadow]

Not being able to sell, may indicate the derelict freighter was not completed

[echo kernel]

I completed a derelict in an uninhabited system earlier this year and sold one of the items to one of the merchants in an inhabited system. Since then I haven't been able to sell anything in any system and I don't want to load an earlier backup because Ive made alot of progress since then

[fallow meadow]

I understand not wanting to start over, so lets not go there. I am not familiar with the derelict mission progress in the save files, but in general progressing a mission should work as described by me in a pinned post here. Make a backup and see if that is useful to you and possibly attempt increasing the MissionProgress value for the CurrentMission, or possibly check the PreviousMissionID if not able to save as such, but right after only?

Either will likely have an ID that comes close to describing what you are looking for.

You are sort of on your own with this one, unless someone else knows exactly what to change to fix this. I am however curious to know if you solve it and what was required to do so

[echo kernel]

previous mission id only shows "^"

[fallow meadow]

Well, that isn't helpful

[echo kernel]

if i am able to find the mission would i edit it under missionprogress or is there another location? i can use a second character to find the name but i'll have to figure out where it is on my main character

[fallow meadow]

Any useful info in this topic perhaps?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/275850/discussions/0/2798376099452373052/
Likely no save editor solution, but who knows, haven't checked the full topic

[echo kernel]

the last reply helps a bit but none of the solutions works for me

[fallow meadow]

That topic has been around a while, and it seems no one actually ever found a true solution, other than saying it's best to sell right after that the Space Station in same system

[echo kernel]

yep, i sent a ticket to HG in january but no response and no fix

[fallow meadow]

The missions being named the same but changing on getting back to ship, yeah perhaps a small hint to the mission. Not sure how that helps either scrap or other to actually accept the stuff.

[echo kernel]

that lets me know that the second mission will probably stick around on a separate save so i can run through a derelict and get the name that way

[fallow meadow]

Didn't you say it stopped working altogether?

Or just some of the derelicts?

[echo kernel]

the first mission works but the second disappears when i use the pulse drive and when i dock

happens on all derelicts now

[fallow meadow]

I am sorry, I don;t think I am familiar enough with the derelict source structure to know how to fix, if even possible with just save editor. I'd suggest to report it, but you already did. They will hardly ever reply though, but still see the reports. Meanwhile, just give yourself a bunch of tainted or whatever else you should be getting?

[echo kernel]

if i find the mission would changing the missionprogress work?

[fallow meadow]

Not a solution of course, but best I can currently think of

[fallow meadow]

I have no idea. Increasing value for MissionProgress basically forwards it a step. I am however not sure if that can be progressed to mean you have returned the items. Certainly will not result in giving you the exchange resources or reward, as you do not actually exchange items that way

It just keeps track of the state of the mission. If that helps you, I am doubtful

Worth a shot perhaps as said before, but make sure you have a backup in case the result is not as expected

[echo kernel]

ok so the mission is called "^ABAND_HANDIN"

so assuming this works, what value would i want to change the progress to so that the next items i get will let me sell them? -1 or 0?

[echo kernel]

😄 changing the value of "^ABAND_HANDIN" to 0 fixed it. Thanks for the help, I wouldn't have figured it out without the currentmissionid thing

[fallow meadow]

@echo kernel Happy to see you figured out the MissionID and managed to fix it. FYI, a value of -1 is used to reset a mission, so basically where it all starts at. Having changed it to 0 (plus 1, single step) was apparently enough to trigger completion. Good to know the MissionID for future reference.

[echo kernel]

yeah, i noticed the value changed to -1 after i completed the mission. im guessing 0 just updates the marker pointing you to the space station since it didnt update until after i went into pulse drive.

[glass lake]

Ive been working very hard on a modpack

Id love osme help play testing it

dm me if you are intersted

[fallow meadow]

@glass lake You may also wish to join NMS Modding Discord and ask for users willing to test, they even have a role and channel for mod testers there.

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[glass lake]

im alread on there

ty tho

[fallow meadow]

Alright, all good then 👍

[fallow meadow]

@sweet flame Make sure to download NMSSE here:
https://github.com/goatfungus/NMSSaveEditor

[sweet flame]

I'm here

[fallow meadow]

Scroll down and you see 'latest version'

Also make sure you have Java 8 (64-bit) installed

Link for Java is just above it, if you need it

[sweet flame]

I a m ready

1.7.5 version right ,

?

[fallow meadow]

Yes

[sweet flame]

ok

I copied the folder with saving

[fallow meadow]

Ok, so you have a backup?

[sweet flame]

I copied the folder with saving

Or do you need to do it through the Save Editor?

[fallow meadow]

Let me know if you can get the save editor running

Save Editor will also make backups, but always best to make your own first

[sweet flame]

I made a copy of the folder where all my saves are

[fallow meadow]

Great

[sweet flame]

If you can help me, I will send you a letter to your country with great gratitude and my photo with a balalaika and a bear

[fallow meadow]

Can you get Save Editor to work?

[sweet flame]

wait pls

yes

Save Editor works\

[fallow meadow]

Ok

So when you open save editor, at the top left, you see 'file'

[fallow meadow]

Then click it and select 'Open File/Path'

[sweet flame]

Yes

[fallow meadow]

Does it show your save slots?

You have to open the save slot that has the issue

[sweet flame]

Yes

[fallow meadow]

Now we do the editing

At the top left, you see 'Edit'

then select 'Edit Raw JSON'

A new window will open

[sweet flame]

Yes

[fallow meadow]

Should look similar to this?

[fallow meadow]

On the right side, do you see "Version":xxxx, ?

at the top

what version does it show for you?

[sweet flame]

138277

[fallow meadow]

Correct, that is the version for Expeditions.

Now change that number to 4645

Make sure the 'comma' is still after it

"Version":4645,

[sweet flame]

Yes

[fallow meadow]

Ok, now close the window and say yes if it asks to save

[sweet flame]

I did as you said

[fallow meadow]

Then click on 'Save Changes' again

So you saved two times

Then we are sure the file has actually changed

Then close the Save Editor and give the game a try

[sweet flame]

I go into the game to check

[fallow meadow]

Yes 🤞 fingers crossed

It should now show as 'normal' save to start

It will be the one at the top

[sweet flame]

It didn't help, it shows that the usual mode, but it's still the same expedition

[fallow meadow]

I was afraid of that

More changes are needed and I do not know which

der'mo

[sweet flame]

😦

[fallow meadow]

yes

[sweet flame]

We tried...

[fallow meadow]

We tried, but failed !

I am sorry

[sweet flame]

I'll try to wait until the second expedition ends

[fallow meadow]

I really hope Hello Games will fix this soon. We have seen several reports, So I hope they know what is wrong

[sweet flame]

It's okay, you helped me a lot!

[fallow meadow]

Thanks

spasibo

[sweet flame]

May I ask you something?

[fallow meadow]

Of course

[sweet flame]

Can you send a report to support in English for me?

There are too many fields that I do not understand that must be filled in.

[fallow meadow]

I can, but I do not have the save files with the issue

[sweet flame]

aaaa

[fallow meadow]

You made a copy, you can send them to me in private message, so I can include them?

[sweet flame]

Yeas

Da

[fallow meadow]

I sent you a friend request

[round sinew]

you're a star @fallow meadow 👍

[fallow meadow]

Thanks hun, just helping out as best I can

I did by the way notice how Expeditions mode saves now have an unusually high version value of 138277 while other game modes are still as pinned. So no longer does it follow the previously known rules. I will edit the pin to include this

[vale iron]

Did you try editing the end time UTC to something in the past, so maybe it would auto convert?

@fallow meadow @sweet flame

[fallow meadow]

I doubt that will work, because I had already noticed that the server resets those when loading

[vale iron]

Darn ok

Only other thing i can think of right now is deleting those two folders that have the seasonal data

But probably want to keep those

[fallow meadow]

Yeah, they are present in every save now

[vale iron]

Aren't they empty in a normal save though?

[fallow meadow]

Not quite empty, but sort of a default state

Not sure if they turn to default after being changed from Expeditions to Normal, or if this data remains the same

There is a lot involved with these saves, not to mention the server, so I have not messed with it too much. Most important is providing these saves in a report, to hopefully see it fixed soon

[vale iron]

Any idea what that oQl false key is?

[fallow meadow]

No idea, there are several unknowns

I believe we have some of them that did not make it into the last time Save Editor updated. We do have a few new ones as well since

[vale iron]

Yeah definitely. I'd ask monkeyman, but he's busy lately

Maybe wbertro knows

[fallow meadow]

using name mappings: NMS 3.3

J<o
D=h
Whh
i1<
dn2
RqY
5Xr
iMl
6BQ
Y7c
YFE
Ujq
pdE
CT3
Vc6
8eX
VOG
q:;
x3h
x5Z
GcZ
tV6
TG<
ObG
7tH
mTG
aZF
6<9
a4X
C6D
wmu
Hr:
Q6s
U6K
;UQ
OpM
oQl

@vale iron Those are the ones I get from console output (CMD) with current NMSSE

[vale iron]

Those are all the ones without mappings?

[fallow meadow]

yup

[vale iron]

Yeah quite a few

[fallow meadow]

yes, with last NMSSE update there were only a few missing, by now it has become quite a list

[fallow meadow]

From what I could find, these are the currently missing Name Mappings for NMSSE 1.75:

J<o UseLegacyColours
D=h InventorySubIndex
Whh MainMissionTitle
i1< MainMissionMessage
dn2 StartWithFreighter
RqY FreighterRace
5Xr CantRewardMessage
iMl CantClaimRewardDescription
6BQ Encryption
Y7c IsEncrypted
YFE Patch
Ujq HoverPopupIcon
pdE DecryptMissionId
CT3 UseStarType
Vc6 UseWealth
8eX UseTrading
VOG AllowUnsafeMatches
q:; NeverAllowEmpty
x3h NeverAllowAbandoned
x5Z RequireUndiscovered
GcZ NeedsWaterPlanet
tV6 NeedsExtremeSentinelPlanet
TG< NeverAllowExtremeSentinelPlanet
ObG NeedsExtremeWeatherPlanet
7tH NeedsExtremeHazardPlanet
mTG AnyBiomeNotWeirdOrDead
aZF AnyRGBBiome
6<9 NeedsBiome
a4X NeedsEmptySystem
C6D NeedsAbandonedSystem
wmu NeedsHighCreatureLevel
Hr: MissionMarkerHighlightStyleOverride
Q6s ScannerIconHighlightType
U6K ProtectedEvents
;UQ ProtectedLocations
OpM Radius
oQl RestartAllInactiveSeasonalMissions

[waxen cedar]

So anything interesting found in the files yet?

[lime mesa]

Wanted to be that guy and ask if someone has the json file for a quick expedition 2 completion, I am a reward whore, yes.

[hearty wasp]

do this instead https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyMods/comments/nceu6j/expedition_rewards_in_save_editor/

[glass lake]

Would anyone be interested in helping me test my modpack?

[hearty wasp]

you can upload the mod first and let people play with it in their own time

[waxen cedar]

tbh the normandy itself feels quite useless to me. Don't know much about mass effect and I only do fleet management casually whenever feeling like it

It serves me more of as a memento of the largest scripted event in NMS

[halcyon dock]

they should give it a command deck interior

could just teleport right in, instead of what we do with other frigates

[waxen cedar]

Probably going to leave it as that

[left sentinel]

I would have hated if it was useful

imagine all the people asking how to save edit it

and HG setting a horrible precedent

sure its not involving real money but mobile gaming tactics are shit

[waxen cedar]

I just cherish the memory of being there and seeing it happen. Simply save editing it in your rewards takes away all the value

[left sentinel]

I did not quit Genshin Impact just to possibly get No Man's Impact

[waxen cedar]

Normandys value for me comes from the actual mission itself. Had the same excitement as when watching nms update trailers for the first time

[left sentinel]

cant wait for winder to make it into the SSV Thomas

[waxen cedar]

Oh god please

with music too please

[left sentinel]

music would be too hard

I had great fun with the cybertruck

[hearty wasp]

I mean people are already doing it now

[left sentinel]

true but its far less than what would have happened, its mostly people who really care about ME or just wanna flex

[hearty wasp]

also I can just add a thomas into the frigate proc

like just hidden in one random update

[left sentinel]

lmfao

[hearty wasp]

sure it'll change all of your existing frigates

but who ever notices em anyway

[left sentinel]

I try to avoid looking at them as its like a smorgasbord of colours

[waxen cedar]

Who even cares about frigates

[halcyon dock]

i don't really

BUT

the moment when it slowly flew over our heads, we could use more of those moments

[waxen cedar]

Yes please

moment when actual stuff happens instead of just text

[halcyon dock]

yuh

[waxen cedar]

well, they got more surprises in store for this year