nms-modding

[fallow meadow]

It hardly ever is the mods though. Not really a concern modding

[hearty wasp]

only happens when you keep changing up your mods

and you just need to restart your game a few times whenever you do

so just install the ones you want and never remove them

[solid hawk]

Yeah, the caching thing is only sometimes, but nothing modders have any control over

[fallow meadow]

It does sound like Vortex is not recommended for use though

[hearty wasp]

more that it gives users a false sense of it working

when a zip can contain 5 versions of the same mod

[fallow meadow]

Oh well. Do let us know if the issue becomes persistent @tired ether

[hearty wasp]

and lack of AMUMSS/NMSBE integration, of course

[solid hawk]

I've reenabled Vortex usage for my mods a few months ago, but don't use myself or recommend

[plucky steeple]

twitch drops can also be save edited or not this time?

[hearty wasp]

assuming you can edit your save

[tired ether]

Ok I did a few tests to reproduce the bug and it gets weirder and weirder 😅

Here is the mods I use which have been tested by Lo2k and he reported they work on the new fractal update

I got rid of all the other mods which may need update

When I run the game in English (not default), everything is in english but :

1. The exosuit voice is still in French
2. Most of those voices are silent, like if the mod Silent Annoying Sounds was still in effect

If I disable all the mods and reload the save, everything is in english (voice included) and the missing voices are back

Those mods have nothing to do with english/french translations nor making anything silent

[fallow meadow]

That was why I asked which mod that was ... lol

Could be something is cached in memory somehow as discussed above. It should eventually fix itself after a few reloads or restarts of the system anyway. If not, I suggest to report the issue, describing what you did to reproduce. Of course this includes the mention of mod use, but removal as well, with the issue then still being present

[fresh arch]

Have you manually checked the contents of the MODS folder?

From what I member from my Fallout 4 modding days, Vortex likes to put all files into the dedicated folder, but doesn't really know what to do with other files in there

Maybe there are some left-over mod files in that folder and Vortex doesn't recognize them

Navigate to No Man's Sky\GAMEDATA\PCBANKS\MODS and make sure all the PAK files in there are from these 5 mods

[tired ether]

Yes I always do this to double check. So far I didn't notice any issue with Vortex adding/removing/updating files. It works good

[tired ether]

There is a cache folder inside the savegame directory. Are we talking about this ? Is it safe to remove to clear the cache ?

[hearty wasp]

no

we don't know where the cache is

if you keep having issues you should try reinstalling your game

and then only install mods manually

[fallow meadow]

The 'cache' folder can stay, nothing to do with mods or saves. It has a few other required things inside, next to base images and location images (Discovery Waypoints). It will regenerate some files anyway.

[tired ether]

Ok thx

Talking about Vortex. I noticed it also put the .lua file in the PCBANKS\MODS directory. Could it be a problem ?

So for each mod I have the .pak and the .lua files in the mods folder

[fallow meadow]

Not really an issue, it will only use pak files, but they are not needed there in any way

[tired ether]

Ok this is what I was thinking

[fallow meadow]

Those lua files are only included for ease of use with AMUMSS, in case you have mod conflicts or want to attempt a forced update or something

[tough lava]

All the mods I use broke with the newest update :/ but I guess that's to be expected. Just curious but how quickly do NMS modders seem to fix mods after updates?

Or is there a way to roll back to the previous update easily?

[lime mesa]

Where do I put the expd rewards in the code? using HxD and Save Wizard for PS4

[lime mesa]

When I put it in redeemedseasonrewards I can't claim but it says I did... so where else would I put them

[hearty wasp]

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[hearty wasp]

Ask there

They have a save editing channel there

[hearty wasp]

Days to weeks to months

Most within 2 weeks after the tool that makes the mods gets updated

Which is not yet

[tough lava]

Oh so they have to wait on a tool to be updated to be able to update their mods? I'm new to this and have never made mods myself.

[hearty wasp]

Yes

[tough lava]

What's the name of the program?

[hearty wasp]

MBINCompiler

Should be first thing on google

[tough lava]

Is it basically like a cheatengine table?

[hearty wasp]

I'm not familiar with CE but that reads RAM

MBINCompiler reads a file type called MBIN

More of a seriealizer

[tough lava]

Okie doke, I'll do some research on it. Thanks for the help. I figure at the very least if I check in on this page instead of Nexus I'll be more in the know.

[hearty wasp]

If you use AMUMSS/NMSMB, sure

Otherwise if guy don't update mod, mod don't get updated

[tough lava]

AMUMSS/NMSMB I don't know what this is

I have just been downloading the mods and putting the .pak in the MODS folder in PCBANKS

[hearty wasp]

Tools that take scripts and translate em into mods with the latest MBIMCompiler and game files

You need it for mod merging and helps with update proofing

Just search em up on Nexus if you wanna see em

[tough lava]

Gotcha, will add them to the research queue.

Thanks again for the help

[hearty wasp]

👍

[solid hawk]

Call it informed speculation, but we MAY see a release update to MBINCompiler tomorrow. Some issues need to be addressed in the code for the build script still , but very good progress was made today. The big limiter in this case being availability of the MBINCompiler dev team, as they have work and family which takes priority. 🙂

[cloud mirage]

Is there a mod that more accurately represents sound in space?

I shouldn’t be able to hear anything except my ship

[hearty wasp]

no way to differentiate sound behaviour in space so best you can do is mute all flying related sounds

[cloud mirage]

Such a shame tbh

It would add so much to the experience

[hearty wasp]

just start putting on earmuffs in space

[cloud mirage]

I don’t have them o.o

[hearty wasp]

ok put on some earphones and blast some eurobeat instead

[cloud mirage]

what's a good mod manager?

[hearty wasp]

there is none

best is to manually install paks and use AMUMSS/NMSMB to merge mods

[cloud mirage]

what are those? never heard of 'em

[hearty wasp]

they use scripts to make mods with the latest tool and game files

for merging mods and update-proofing

both on nexus

both use different scripting languages

[cloud mirage]

says MBINCompiler.exe is missing when its not

[hearty wasp]

AMUMSS?

prolly a perm issue

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[hearty wasp]

^go there, go to amumss-lua channel

[cloud mirage]

is merging mods necessary?

[hearty wasp]

if you have mods that need merging, then yes

by that I mean mods that changes the same files

[cloud mirage]

ahhh

well I tried using the tool and the file It build doesn't do anything so I guess I'll stick with prebuild stuff unless I have to

steam workshop support would be amazing

[real apex]

So, crazy question for all y'all out here in modder haven. Is it possible to make something that would add extra and/or combined filters to the warp map? Like, if say I only wanted to see [yellow systems with water and korvax] or [green systems with trade economy and combat level one]?

[hearty wasp]

no

[tired ether]

After an update, is it safer to recreate a mod .pak with its .lua and AMUMSS so it uses the last game files or it makes no difference with using the original mod .pak made for a previous game version ?

[vale iron]

You need to wait for the compiler to be updated

Otherwise it won't be any different

[tired ether]

Ok thx

[fresh arch]

I see some modding gurus here so quick question

[vale iron]

Faster! 😉

[fresh arch]

What is the extend of what mods can do? Would it be possible to add a button to the portal charge screen

That lets players charge all the glyphs at once?

[vale iron]

probably not

[fresh arch]

So running some kind of script / function?

[vale iron]

Adding to the UI and adding functions are both unlikely

[fresh arch]

I see, thanks for the info

[hearty wasp]

there's a way to bunch up all buttons in a corner tho

by just absolutely fucking up its scene

then you can just spam click

[wanton salmon]

So stupid question. I have not bother modding since way back when MP was introduced. I assume it might flag my save or mp lobby or anything like that. Is there actually anything like that really happens or that just me being too worried? For example I like to use the ui fix for the currency and small fixes not actual "cheaty" type mods.

[fresh arch]

Nothing of such sort

As long as you don't deliberately use mods / save editor to cause harm to community, HG does not care

I was using buncha QoL improvement mods myself, some mods that change visuals of the game (color palettes of planets, skies, etc)

[wanton salmon]

awesome, thank you 🙂

[marsh eagle]

HG actively added the mod folder to the game and deobfuscated some internal stuff intentionally for modders so they support modding at least passively and we have the ok. Also sean tweeted about mods in the past.

[wanton salmon]

Oh yeah I mean they also fix modding like today

Okay another question prob better for here since people seem to be up/down on it... Twitch / Expedition rewards unlocks. yes I know you can edit that account file and such. But is it grabbed from HG Servers or from where? I noticed before wiping my PC with no steam cloud stuff that it had downloaded the file again prob when I launched the game.

But maybe I'm the idiot or insane one here?

The reason I asked is I missed some expeditions overtime and I think 1 Twitch drop time. So I was thinking if there was a way to perma unlock said content.

[marsh eagle]

Yes there is a way. Its stored locally and saveeditors can handle it as well. Also mods exist like the season reward unlocker or winders consumerism mod. So nothing is lost due to a missed expedition etc.

[wanton salmon]

save editor might be better since it's cleaner then editing it directly. But it seems the Save Editor is outdated these days unless there is a new fork.

I rather not depend on a mod since if it's a one time thing I rather just have it done via the account file.

n/m it's updated 20 hours ago maybe was another program I saw that was outdated

Ahh so expedition stuff is just locally, but twitch stuff I guess is syned everytime you launch the game so either offline or mod it I guess.

[round sinew]

i just used goatfungus to open my 4.1 save, nothing seems to be amiss

[green prairie]

no, but you can set it to autocharge when you interact with it completely skipping the charging part

which is how I play because charging is pretty boring

[solid hawk]

FYI, you can get the rewards via one of the two mods, then remove the mod and keep the loot. Just another means to that same end. With season reward unlocker, simply allows the vanilla expedition rewards to be given by the press of buttons added to the emote menu. That is all the mod does, call the vanilla rewards for the expedition items. After that, the functions in the exe take over and give the rewards and add to the save. Do not need to keep the mod installed after you receive the goodies.

[real apex]

Ah well. Thanks for response.

[lean saffron]

If a blueprint is unlearned via save edit, will that put it back into the "pool" of blueprints unlocked naturally in-game? E.g. if I have learned the Economy Scanner and unlearn it in the editor, will it then become posssible to learn it via a crashed ship beacon?

[fallow meadow]

It would be back in the 'pool' so to say, but that does not mean it will always be rewarded again, depending on how the reward structure in question is determining this. In many cases it will actually check against 'known' BPs, in other cases it may have been specifically set to pick the 'next' or be tied to some other identifier like mission progress value. In general I think it would 'mostly' work, but can not be sure. Would have to look for this specific case and see how rewards are determined

[dusk summit]

@vale iron Question: Is gGame Full 406a.pak one of yours?

[fallow meadow]

In your case, it may be rewarding it 'InOrder' by the looks of it, so I am not too sure, other than giving it a try to test this and know for sure. It appears to be the right reward table, but do keep in mind I have no updated source yet.

[fallow meadow]

Yes it is Gumsk's https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/users/38106355?tab=user+files
Note the 'g' prefix, which has a few in the list linked for additional info

[dusk summit]

I wasn't finding that particular one in the list, that's why I asked

[fallow meadow]

It is likely not called gGame Full, but I am not sure which it is either.

[dusk summit]

Not sure...which is why I was trying to gain G's attention

It borks the game since Fractal

I only have 2 Mods installed. One's been updated, the other is this one

(The other one is "Fast Actions" by the way)

lets you not have to hold down on the "Interact" button to do stuff

Like half-a-second instead of 3 seconds

[fallow meadow]

Disable any mods with issues for now, as most mods will need updating, which requires waiting on MBINC to update. I am sure they are working hard on getting there.

@dusk summit It must be this one: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1347?tab=files
FYI, if you check each of the gGame mods, then under files, you check 'Preview file contents', you most often find what you look for.

[dusk summit]

That's a thought, since I know the name of the mod file

[fallow meadow]

10.1 kB and matching name, while the other mods do not match

[dusk summit]

Yep, that's the one right there

[solid hawk]

gOsh gOlly gWhiz

Gumsks next mod: gICan'tBelieveIt'sNotButter

[fallow meadow]

How about just ... gG

[lean saffron]

Thank you! Was asking because I'm toying with the idea of documenting crash beacon rewards. I think now I'll go about it a little differently, and just repeatedly restore a save instead.

[solid hawk]

or a mod that adds political espionage to the game, gGordonLiddy
...Sexy undergarments for all Gek, gString

He'll get me back for these, lol

[fallow meadow]

Keep em coming @solid hawk , we need 10 laughs at least

[solid hawk]

Uh-oh, Gumsk just went green. I'm going to get it now....use his Atlas Emissary powers to smite me down

[fallow meadow]

Hmmm, by the power of Guntie?

gGuntie! (should be a command in all honesty)

[vale iron]

gWhiz, you gGuys sure are having a gGood time

[solid hawk]

gEsundheit

[solid hawk]

I've run out of steam and time, gotta feed kids supper and not a clue what to make

[fallow meadow]

I'd say pancakes should do the trick

[solid hawk]

Went with meatballs, broccoli, and potatos...until the 18 month old ripped his sisters plate to the floor. She (3 yo) then got a hotdog and cucumbers to replace.

But, enough ot. 🙂

[glass gate]

Is there any mod or way to customize your ship? (colors/design)

[vale iron]

You can save edit to change the colors, but it's a pain and isn't shared in multiplayer. Best option is to use Mjstral's tool to find a ship that matches what you want

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[dusk summit]

Tell me there's not actually a mod called that?

[vale iron]

There's not. He's just joking

[dusk summit]

Hey hey hey! There's the man of the hour!
...while I got'cha here, any chance of an update of Gumsk's Gameplay - gGame anytime soon?

[vale iron]

As soon as the compiler gets updated

[dusk summit]

sa-WHEET!

[vale iron]

Just not sure how much longer that is going to take them

[dusk summit]

oh, so it's not down on you? How does that work, I'm not up on how modding works

[solid hawk]

That's right, just joking. Private Gumsk mod!

[vale iron]

The game files are stored in .PAK files, which unpack to .MBIN files. Those need to get translated to something we can play with, .EXML files by MBIN Compiler

MBIN Compiler has to be updated with every NMS update to handle the new and changed files

Once that is updated, I can update my mods

[dusk summit]

Got it

[solid hawk]

Usually HG makes structural or property changes to the game files, which cause the game to crash when using mods that haven't been updated.

This time around, those type of changes were quite light, so many mods aren't causing the game to crash, BUT are missing new Fractals data, so appear to be causing game bugs. Mixed bag.

[dusk summit]

Yeah, the Fast Actions mod was updated fairly quickly and launched quickly

[solid hawk]

Once we get the new MBINCompiler, you'll see a flood of mods being updated within 24 hours

[vale iron]

Lo2k does some of his through hex editing the MBIN directly

So he can get some updated before MBIN Compiler is done

[solid hawk]

Yep, hex editing, but that is ONLY possible if the mod makes one or two simple value changes. Anything more complex and you can't do that.

[dusk summit]

and @vale iron Mod is complex as all hell

[solid hawk]

gGame....thousands of changes across multiple files. 🙂

[dusk summit]

I figured that from all the things it DID

[solid hawk]

We (the mod makers) want to get the mods updated just as much as the players do. 🙂 ASAP

[vale iron]

gGame isn't too bad, just maybe 75 or 100 changes in one file, but definitely not something I'm going to hex edit 🙂

I guess I could start going through my Luas and updating the version to 410

or we're up to 412 now in Experimental aren't we?

[solid hawk]

The trick to hex editing is you have to have your changes mapped out in advanced. Can't do on-the-fly, because to a great extent, you can't really see what you're doing.

[dusk summit]

Wasn't asking you to rush things. I was just curious about the process...cuz I'm a curious guy like that. I've never delved into how the process works

[vale iron]

Oh no worries, it didn't sound like you were rushing me

[solid hawk]

4.11. Public is still 4.1

They've refreshed experimental several times, but hasn't pushed to public yet

[dusk summit]

I wonder how that monstrous mod with 3000 parts for building with is...or is it just a surface mod?

can't remember what it's called right off

[solid hawk]

I just use grep. Dial into my master Lua directory, search for all "4.08", with quotes, then replace with "4.10" (or whatever). GrepWin works very well for that, but could do the same thing with NPP Find in Files. Change them all in one go without having to open then all up.

[dusk summit]

trying to remember what it was called

[solid hawk]

EUCLI

EUCLI-EA to be precise

It's fine. For the most part, just needs a recompile for all the MBIN files and a METADATA refresh. Same with Kibbles N' Bits

[dusk summit]

Yep, that's the one...build a really pretty base...was so proud of it & invited a friend to come see it...and he was like... "What'chu talkin' bout, Willis?"

cuz you can't show mods to others unless they have 'em installed

[solid hawk]

He could also see the base, but he would need to also install the mod

[dusk summit]

yep

[solid hawk]

Yep, exactly.

[dusk summit]

found that out after

Least I got a couple of pictures, so I got that

[solid hawk]

Your local files have the unique part IDs for stuff in the mod, but others don't and that data isn't synced

For the most part, all NMS mods are local....just some others can see the effect.

[dusk summit]

Thanks for taking the time to explain some of this stuff to me

[solid hawk]

Like if you installed a mod to run faster...everyone else can see that because the game syncs player positional data

But, it may look stuttery to others if faster than sync refreshed data

Oh, NP. We enjoy oversharing. haha

If you want to delve deeper or maybe try your hand at it, always welcome to join, https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[dusk summit]

I'm like that, a bit pedantic at times.

others can be like "oversharing, dude"

and I know it's time to reign it in

[solid hawk]

Just not in the middle of an update cycle, lol. We get a bit busy getting/keeping our mods updated

haha

[dusk summit]

Oh, I don't have the patience for it

Nor the attention span
...LOOK! SQUIRREL!

[solid hawk]

Where? Where? 🤪

[dusk summit]

I love that bit from the Up movie

and of course just about anything with Hammy from Over the Hedge (sorry to Derail)

Did I mention an attention span problem?

[solid hawk]

haha

I'm trying desperately not to get too OT for long or the Gleam twins will slap me. 🙂

[slender saddle]

what are some good mods

[hot berry]

colorless inventory

[shy grove]

@slender saddle Here's a helpful list from Gumsk btw: <#nms-modding message>

I'm sure you can get other suggestions from other super helpful modders and players we have here

Also make sure to check the Pins in this channel like this one: <#nms-modding message>

[wanton salmon]

For steamdeck users this might work https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2665

[ionic plinth]

Are any save editors up to date for Fractal? My game bugged and didn't give me the antimatter recipe when it should have

[solid hawk]

Goatfungus pushed an update yesterday

[fresh arch]

Keep in mind we are just after a major update, mods for previous versions of the game might not be compatible

And the compiler used for making mods needs to be updated as well

So be extra careful when picking mods from Nexus, sort by latest / recently updated

[slender saddle]

Ok

[fiery mauve]

if i delete the disable mods file/ add mods to my game can i still play with friends?

[lucid edge]

@kindred thicket

[kindred thicket]

thanks. what directory do i need to install this in, to get it to work?

Browse to No Man's Sky\GAMEDATA\PCBANKS.
Delete or rename the DISABLEMODS. TXT file.
Create a folder named MODS.
Place mod . ...
Start the game and wait for the splash screen to disappear.
If done correctly the game will display a warning just before displaying the selection of saved games.

is this correct?

[lucid edge]

yes

[ashen sapphire]

morning, i'm trying to fix my save using save editor, what's the latest working version, may I ask?

[vale iron]

NMS Save Editor by Goatfungus updated two days ago I believe. NomNom is not updated

[ashen sapphire]

great thanks. gotta try it out. ^^

.....is it possible to save edit away a freighter, or add one?

[vale iron]

You can do it in the JSON, not sure if the interface allows it

[ashen sapphire]

where can i read up on how to do that? 😄

[lofty gate]

Any face mods?

[vale iron]

No

[vale iron]

I haven't done that specifically, so don't want to tell you incorrectly. You're probably best to ask in the save editing channel on the creative and sharing hub

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[fiery mauve]

do you knwo how to use it with xbox game pass on pc

[vale iron]

I don't have any personal experience, no, but as long as you can point the editor at the save file location, it should work

!faq-savefiles

[hardy aurora]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:nmsatlas:972222451801010207> **Save File Locations**

Steam
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...

Game Pass
%LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...

GoG
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...

Linux & Steam Deck
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...

When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Contributors: Devilin Pixy#9298, bkay201#1943

[solid hawk]

What about Sean!

[vale iron]

True

[solid hawk]

More of a whole head than face. 🙂

[dusk summit]

That's a great big...MAAAAYBE!???

If the game launches at all, you're golden.
...if it doesn't, you're probably in trouble

[ashen sapphire]

Can I use save editor to get an exact ship or freighter if I have the seed numbers?

[hearty wasp]

Yes

[ashen sapphire]

So I just need to note down the respective numbers go into editor and change it yeah?

Can json folders/codes be copied wholesale as well?

[hearty wasp]

Don't think so

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[hearty wasp]

Should have more info there if you ask

But seed wise, yes

[ashen sapphire]

My old frwigher seems to be bugginfg my game , changing it didn't help I was hoping to replace the whole code with a working 'new' one to see if it helps 😄

[hearty wasp]

That's more advanced than a seed change but is doable

Again, ask there

[wicked slate]

any must-have mods for NMS?

[hearty wasp]

sean

[fresh arch]

Whatever mods you get recomendations for... read this message: #nms-modding message

[wicked slate]

Thank you for this )

• 🙂

[dusk summit]

And test test test, individually.

don't just load a whole bunch of mods & hope for the best. Load one at a time, make sure it works as the Modder intended...and then go for the next.

...ask me how I know

🤦‍♂️

[fresh arch]

I mean yeah, that works, I put some mods from 4.08 back that way

But for a newbie I would recommend sticking with mods that have been updated by the author

[lime mesa]

Does anyone know how does no mans sky store its time in its memory? (for settlement timer)

[hearty wasp]

do you need to know how it is actually stored in RAM or just how you can get around it

because I don't think anyone knows or cares about the former

[lime mesa]

whatever info you can give please do

[hearty wasp]

search on Nexus for key words like "timer" or "settlement"

there's a mod for that

when it can be updated, that is

it is not currently

[lime mesa]

yeah i searched already

currently digging thru json

[hearty wasp]

I'm fairly certain that it does time calculation based on start time

[ashen sapphire]

hi erm.....how do i change the race of my freighter crew?

as in, the captain and the expedition dude

[lime mesa]

yep it seems to store information when was construction started but its a weird number that i cant decode

guess ill experiment a bit

that didnt go well

[orchid hinge]

I've installed the NMS Save Editor by Goatfungus.

Can't find the location of my save files, can someone point me in the right direction?

I have the Microsoft Store / GamePass version.

[brittle orchid]

Anyone have flying pet eggs ? I’ll trade anything

[fresh arch]

!faq-savefiles

[hardy aurora]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:nmsatlas:972222451801010207> **Save File Locations**

Steam
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...

Game Pass
%LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...

GoG
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...

Linux & Steam Deck
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...

When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Contributors: Devilin Pixy#9298, bkay201#1943

[lime mesa]

what is GCSETTLEMENTGLOBALS.GLOBAL

and where can i find that

[fresh arch]

Why do you need that?

[lime mesa]

i want to disable/shorten settlement building time

[fresh arch]

You prolly won't be able to

We are after a major update, we need the 3rd party compiler to be updated to be compatible

To access game files

That is still in the works

[lime mesa]

ah i see

man that sucks

Is there info somwhere on modifying save files in no mans sky? like a forum or something

It would be nice to know what certain things are without having to test my hypothesis every time

[hearty wasp]

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[hearty wasp]

ask there

[lime mesa]

alright thank you

[hearty wasp]

but don't be surprised if they dunno how things are encrypted either

[lime mesa]

Alright

[orchid hinge]

Thank you! 👍

[wanton salmon]

Any chance anyone be willing recreate this mod in 2023? https://videogamemods.com/nomanssky/mods/no-pause-when-alt-tabbed/

I know some people did stuff with autohot key that kept crashing for me in it's hackish ways. I just want my game to continue to run like it was focused or like others were in my MP Lobby.

n/m that used cheat engine to do it I thought it was a Mod >.>

I rather not do that as well lol

Might not be possible I guess

[hearty wasp]

that is the case

there is an AHK script as well iirc

[wanton salmon]

Yeah sadly that one kept crashing on me when tabbing out and in haha

It sometimes work other times it would freeze and sometimes the sounds would stop meaning it was prob pausing it was very hit and miss

[solid hawk]

This will be updated very quickly once MBINCompiler is updated: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2067

[fallow meadow]

@wanton salmon You can just play in a bordered window, then click the taskbar icon until the game hides in the background. It will then continue to run instead of pause.

[daring lodge]

Stupid question. Am I able to edit my ps4 save?

[fallow meadow]

Only through using a paid tool called Save Wizard, which requires PC. I can't say I'd recommend it, but that would be your choice to make after all.

[hearty wasp]

would this look annoying for a gravity bubble

[daring lodge]

Ehhhh

Yes and no

[junior grove]

So this is more a save editor question, but I managed to lose some of my expedition reward pets and wasn't able to claim them again from the quicksilver merchant. I fired up the raw JSON editor and located "RedeemedSeasonRewards," and then deleted the entries for the eggs I needed. Once I got back in-game, these eggs now appear again at the quicksilver merchant, but when I click on them nothing happens. I can still redeem other items properly, it's just the eggs that aren't responding. Any ideas on what the issue is?

[junior grove]

Okay, I actually managed to fix this myself. I had to delete these eggs from my known products.

They're back to being redeemable.

[dire silo]

Anyone know of a good mod to fix the "arcadey" flight model?

[vale iron]

There are a few I think, but none that are currently updated. Need to wait just a little longer for the compiler to get updated.

[fresh arch]

Quick question, which save editor is the updated one? Goatfungus (Java) or Nomnom?

[vale iron]

Goatfungus

[fresh arch]

Im sorry what

The fuck is that inventory in Bases & Storage tab?

[night adder]

@fresh arch Nutrient Processor allows access to it

[fresh arch]

Oh really

I never used it in my main save, no wonder I didnt know it existed

Thanks

[ashen sapphire]

do the starship figurines show up in the ship?

[shy grove]

Assuming you're referring to the ones you can get at the QS store? Yes, when you install them, you see them inside the cockpit in first person view

[shy grove]

Lol how?

[ashen sapphire]

all of 'em? or some?

[shy grove]

Should be all of them as far as I'm aware. Are you having issues with one?

[hearty wasp]

ash showed me an unused freighter base "gravity lift" and this uses that

[shy grove]

That is way too cool

[hearty wasp]

and janky as shit

I understand why HG didn't implement it fully

[ashen sapphire]

as in..if i put in all of 'em do all of 'em appear, or just the last one? 😄

[hearty wasp]

anyway smooth criminal

[shy grove]

Ooh got ya! Ty for clarifying. Only one, I believe the last one installed but not 100% certain

[ashen sapphire]

i just checked. 1st one installed 😛

[shy grove]

Nice! Ty for letting me know. Will keep that in mind.

[fresh arch]

I love how Nada has the usual expression but you can feel he's all "Im sick of this shit Traveller"

Holy hell Exosolar has been busy

[fresh arch]

For all interesting in modding, MBIN Compiler got updated, mod authors start updating their mods again

Check on Nexus for updates on your favourite mods!

[green prairie]

No idea if people are still using them, but they're all updated.
(Better Pulse Scan is partially updated because mbincompiler isn't fully working yet, but will update the mod again once it is.)

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2589
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2584
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2582
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2587

[fresh arch]

New version of my glowing crystal mod available, now with LUA script! Compile the mod yourself with new parameters for custom light colors! https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2664

[sand swallow]

Is there a mod that makes sandworms slide on the terrain surface instead of „flying“?

[orchid hinge]

NomNom won't start since the last update.
Can anyone confirm, and/or provide a workaround?

[fresh arch]

The other save editor by Goatfungus does work with the latest game version

So maybe give that a try?

[orchid hinge]

Thanks, I installed it yesterday.
It works well, but doesn't give me the option to move Supercharged Slots - unless I just haven't found that function.

[fallow meadow]

With NMSSE you can do this in the Raw JSON editor. I can give you some guidance if you wish

[fresh arch]

Updated mod for improved item use labels - new color and separator style, added variables to LUA script for easier customization! https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2629

[ripe stump]

Is there any sort of mod to turn off the outside noise aboard a freighter?

[orchid hinge]

Hey that would be pretty cool!

[fallow meadow]

For a ship?

[orchid hinge]

There's one ship, and one multi-tool I want to change.
One supercharged slot needs to move for each one.

[fallow meadow]

Ok. First things first though, you have a backup?

[orchid hinge]

No, not yet.

[fallow meadow]

I suggest to make one, just in case

[orchid hinge]

Understood. Let me look into that real quick.

[fallow meadow]

!faq-savefiles

[hardy aurora]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:nmsatlas:972222451801010207> **Save File Locations**

Steam
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...

Game Pass
%LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...

GoG
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...

Linux & Steam Deck
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...

When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Contributors: Devilin Pixy#9298, bkay201#1943

[fallow meadow]

Let me know when ready

[orchid hinge]

ok, I'm ready.

[fallow meadow]

Ok, open up the Save Editor, select save slot, then 'Edit' at the top, to open the Raw JSON Editor

[orchid hinge]

I'm getting an error reading my account data now.

Hold on

[fallow meadow]

Are you on Game Pass?

[orchid hinge]

yeah, I am.

I was using NMSSE 20 minutes ago, no problems.

[fallow meadow]

Did you get to select the save before the error?

[orchid hinge]

yeah, I did.

It works now, if I use the NMSSaveEditor-4G.bat

I'm in the RAW JSON Editor.

[fallow meadow]

Game Pass has an issue with the new Robo Companion, unable to show account data. Saves with the new pet will cause an issue as well when selected.

[orchid hinge]

hm.. OK... by new Robo Companion you mean the one we get from the new Expedition?
Because I never even started the Expedition.

[fallow meadow]

Part reason of making sure you have a backup, as it is unclear if it causes additional issues. On Steam it is easier to work around or so it seems, but we'll see.

[fallow meadow]

Correct

Ok, familiar with JSON editing?

[orchid hinge]

No, not at all.

[fallow meadow]

ok, no problem. Consider the left side to be some file system, with the right side the content

[orchid hinge]

ok

[fallow meadow]

You are looking for your ship, we need to make sure we get the right one. On the left you can expand folders. I want you to expand PlayerStateData, which will open up a whole lot

[orchid hinge]

yep, did that.

[fallow meadow]

Now scroll down quite a ways, over halfway most likely, passed the list of chests, until you spot ShipOwnerShip

[orchid hinge]

Ok, found it

[fallow meadow]

Expand it and you see a list of numbers from [0] to [11]

Each represents a possible ship (we can have 12). On the right you need to verify for each if it is the correct ship you look for by checking the data

If you named your ship, or know the name, it is likely easy and near the top

[solid hawk]

Sort of.....Lua script with the sandworm parameters. https://github.com/MetaIdea/nms-amumss-lua-mod-script-collection/blob/main/Babscoole/Sandworms_Overhaul.lua To download, click the RAW button, right click on the page and choose save as. Save with extension lua. Can open and edit in a text editor. Process through AMUMSS to create the .pak to put into MODS.

[orchid hinge]

I'm trying to make sure. It can only be one of two slots.
Hold on please

[fallow meadow]

@orchid hinge Once you verified which [x] is the ship you wish to make changes to, let me know. If you need more clues on identifying, let me know as well

You can also close the JSON editor, to go back to the main options to check there, as you can likely identify a lot easier that way

[orchid hinge]

OK, I found it.
Slot 4

[fallow meadow]

slot [4] or the 4th slot [3]?

[orchid hinge]

it's slot [4].

[fallow meadow]

[4] it is ;-)

[orchid hinge]

🙂 better make sure, I understand.

[fallow meadow]

Ok, expand [4] and look for Inventory_TechOnly

[orchid hinge]

got it.

[fallow meadow]

Also saying it that way, because those are so called index values, which start at 0

Expand Inv_Tech

Look for SpecialSlots

[orchid hinge]

got it.

[fallow meadow]

SpecialSlots you just select, not expand. Then look on the right

On the right you see data, containing multiple of similar sets of data, right?

[orchid hinge]

yep, and what looks like coordinates that tell the game where each Supercharged slot is located.

[fallow meadow]

Most likely 4 sets (matching amount of max supercharged slots)

[orchid hinge]

correct.

[fallow meadow]

Top left corner in a grid is x, y > 0, 0, then x, y > 1, 0, for the slot to the right of it. X is rows, y is columns

Change those values, making sure you stay within the available grid, to have them the way you want

Keep any present formatting in-tact, only change values

Those commas, brackets, etc. all important

[orchid hinge]

Understood.
So the 10th slot in the top row would be 9,0
Correct?

[fallow meadow]

top right slot, yes

[orchid hinge]

OK.

[fallow meadow]

When done, you can let me know, and we'll move to the Multi-tool

As soon as you click on the left to go elsewhere, it will ask to verify any changes you made.

[green prairie]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2548

[orchid hinge]

Gotcha...

I'll have to go back into the game to identify the slots, and take a screenshot.
Would you mind telling me where to find the Muliti-Tool values, so I can do both in one go?

[green prairie]

I don't know if that mod has a individual file just for the hangar doors, but it does remove it

[fallow meadow]

Sure. GO back to the left side, then scroll pretty much all the way back up, looking for Multitools

Same thing, expand to show the [0]-[5]

verify the one you need

Then within the number, expand Store, then look for SpecialSlots

[orchid hinge]

Found it.

[fallow meadow]

Same thing there as you do with ships. Make the changes you want, get back out, verify. Then last step is to actually save once more on Main tab

Just keep in mind the layout of slots

Now in the default UI, you may see enough to know which slots you wanted, else make note in-game as you said.

I think you can manage, but do not hesitate to ask for help again if you need

[orchid hinge]

Very nice!
Thank you very much for your help and patience. Much appreciated 👍
I'll do that tomorrow, I'll let you know how it went.

[night adder]

If you edit your active MT, you need to edit twice, in both Multitools and ActiveMultitool - the GUI normally handles that, for all platforms except PS4, I learned lol.

[hearty wasp]

Updated:

[fallow meadow]

Ah yes, good point. @orchid hinge you will also have to edit it in WeaponInventory > SpecialSlots right above if you are editing the currently active MT

[fallow meadow]

Messing with the gravity is fun, would be great if we could do something like that combined with logic, for some funky mini-game mechanics or something.

[hearty wasp]

you can do a gravity tunnel with it

just gotta start at the end point and build your way back

[orchid hinge]

Thanks for the heads up, I'll keep that in mind.

For the Multi-Tool, I found more Sub-directories where coordinates are saved.

Am I supposed to change those as well? Or just once, in the SpecialSlots main directory.
I've attached a screenshot.

[fallow meadow]

If you select the root/base (so called folder) on the left, it shows the full data. If you expand, it shows the same data, but separate within the root. It is the same data, just more specific as you go deeper into those 'folders'.

So if you select [0] to change the X from 4 to 5, you can do the same by expanding [0], then selecting Index to edit both X and Y, or you can expand further with Index, then select X or Y to only edit one of them. It is just the same.

Does that make sense?

[orchid hinge]

I think it does.
Let's see...
All I have to do is change them once in the root folder?

[fallow meadow]

The same way, if you open the Raw JSON the first time, it selects the top, and then has ALL the data on the right, but that makes it only rarely useful, unless you wish to copy everything, or do a search through everything

If there is not too much data, it is just easier to edit and easier to still see the data in context

I personally find it easiest to see all slots with all the data, so I select the root > SpecialSlots, which then shows all the data just for all those slots

See of it as levels. the more you go into it, the more detailed the data, but it is all the same data. If you go closer to the root, the data becomes larger.

[orchid hinge]

Thanks for the detailed explanation.
I got it done, let me go verify in-game.

[fallow meadow]

So if MT [3] is your active MT in-game, then you also need to edit the slots to be the same in WeaponInventory above

ActiveMultioolIndex (yes that is spelled wrong) has a value equal to the valve of one of the MT listed above. If it has value 3, it means Multitools > [3] is the active one.

[orchid hinge]

I checked the WeaponInventory folder, it already had made the changes I'd made in the MultiTool folder.

[fallow meadow]

Ok. So you got it working correctly?

[orchid hinge]

I'm starting up the game now, I'll check and let you know

Yep, worked like a charm.

Thank you and @night adder very much!

Cool little trip into the modding world for me, thanks for being my tour guide.

[fallow meadow]

You're welcome and glad Dharhan got my back there. I tend to forget that one, to only realise when it doesn't work. Would not have been useful for someone new to save editing.
Have fun! Don't spoil yourself too much...

[orchid hinge]

Yeah... it's a lot of moving parts, I imagine it's easy to forget about one of them.

What do you mean by "..spoil yourself too much.." ?

[fallow meadow]

Save Editors are really powerful, they can ruin the fun, but they can also ruin your saves if you mess up badly. Take good care of those backups ;-)

[orchid hinge]

Ah ok, understood.
I agree on the ruin the fun part. I'm aware of it, and keep balance in mind.
I look at it more like it gives me a feature I think the game should already have.

[ruby torrent]

Can someone update this mod Glonely the mod works kind of ok, but there is a problem with the sprinting, and the life support. Both of them goes down instant.

[hearty wasp]

wait for another day or two

mods take time to update

[ruby torrent]

Alright, and I love the idea of that mod where every system isn't full of npcs.

[hearty wasp]

Rmember that you can track mods on Nexus and they show up all in one page so you can see when they've been update

[ruby torrent]

Alright.

[vale iron]

I haven't updated it in a while because hardly anyone used it. I'll look into it

@ruby torrent Updated it, though I haven't tested it.

[ruby torrent]

Alright.

[ruby torrent]

Thank you for updating it I will let you know you later if the problem is still there.

[ruby torrent]

Sorry to bother you Gumsk, but your mod isn't working because it would now freezes at the logo, and I removed other mods to see if there were any conflict, and there were none.

[vale iron]

Just basic gLonely, or the dead or uncharted?

[ruby torrent]

The basic.

[vale iron]

Let me check

[ruby torrent]

I wish Hello Games would make the official mod tools for modders since this is the perfect time to do that because the game is reaching 7 years old.

[vale iron]

I was able to load a game with it installed, though I was in space. Are you starting a new game or loading an existing one?

[ruby torrent]

Using an existing save, and I am on the anomaly.

[vale iron]

Hmm, that was what I was going to suggest. Try starting a new save to see if it will load maybe

[ruby torrent]

Alright.

[vale iron]

I could try taking out the part that changes solar system size and clip distance, that might be the problem, but hard to say

[ruby torrent]

Still the same, and it the only mod in the mods folder.

[vale iron]

Freezes at which logo, the ones before or after you select a game? I'm assuming after

[ruby torrent]

Right after the No man sky logo appears after you select a save.

[vale iron]

Try this version

[ruby torrent]

Still the same.

I removed the mod, and I can load the game just fine.

[vale iron]

hmm, not sure what could be causing it and can't reproduce it on my end, so I can't test fixes 😦

[ruby torrent]

Sorry for wasting your time with this mess.

[vale iron]

I can give you the Lua if you know AMUMSS, you can try disabling parts until it works

[ruby torrent]

Alright.

[vale iron]

Sorry I can't help test fixing it

[ruby torrent]

It alright.

[fresh arch]

["MOD_FILENAME"]            = ModName.." "..ModNameSub.." "..GameVersion..ModVersion..".pak",

Oh that is clever 😄

[vale iron]

I like to keep all the changeable stuff up at the top

[ruby torrent]

Weird the 407 one works just fine but there are some bugs with it.

The zoom in view is a weird bug that your mod cause with 407.

[vale iron]

I don't think I actually made any changes between the 4.07 and 4.11 script, so it should just be generating the same changes based off newer files

[ruby torrent]

Weird.

[vale iron]

and no script insertions, so don't have to worry about changed syntax somewhere

I originally thought it might be a positioning thing, but if it happens on a new game, it's not that probably

[ruby torrent]

Yeah.

Too bad my game doesn't play nice with your mod.

[fresh arch]

Maybe try veryfying your game files @ruby torrent

Maybe something is missing / corrupted

Mythos over at the 4.1 bug thread recommends veryfying for Steam users

[vale iron]

The only other thing I can think of is maybe it's the increased abandoned/uncharted messing with both your old save star type and a new save's star type, and the game not liking that happening to a yellow star

[ruby torrent]

It also makes the ship tiny for some reason.

[vale iron]

I wish I knew exactly what that was causing the tiny ship, that could be useful at some point

[ruby torrent]

I don't think that would work and I redownloaded my game a few days ago so the files should be fine.

Your mod is kind of working since the planet is dead.

[vale iron]

Yeah, some of the files didn't change much, so parts would still be working, but others had changes

[ruby torrent]

Crazy.

[vale iron]

oh wait, I think I know

are you on public or experimental?

[ruby torrent]

Public.

[vale iron]

that could be the issue. The mod is built with experimental files and they might have changed something critical in that time

[ruby torrent]

What about the 407 one.

[vale iron]

The compiler is built off experimental files as well, so running it through AMUMSS on your end might not work either

[ruby torrent]

And when I press fire the gun would be drained instant same with life support if I move an inch.

[vale iron]

I would recommend either switching to experimental (get bug fixes faster) or wait for the public branch to update then try it again

[ruby torrent]

Alright I will try that.

If I switch to experimental will it make the others mods I use stop working.

[vale iron]

No, those are all 99.9% likely also built with experimental. They just don't have any issues between public and experimental. I'd have to check what file is the culprit for this problem (and this is assuming I'm right that it's an experimental/public problem, I could be wrong)

[ruby torrent]

Alright.

I usually don't play on experimental, but for this mod I will.

[vale iron]

I recommend it. They don't really use it for beta testing, but more for bug fixes

[ruby torrent]

Alright.

[vale iron]

More frequent downloads though, if that's an issue

Found the file I think. You could comment out the last section and that might fix it for now. That file had an update

I need to do a compare to check what it was

[ruby torrent]

It worked after I switched to experimental.

No more weird camera view bug or the instant drain bug, and the ship isn't tiny.

[vale iron]

That's with the 411 version, right?

I just checked, they added a property to that file sometime in the past week, after 4.11 released, in one of the experimentals, so your game didn't know what to do with it

[ruby torrent]

yeah the 407 now froze at the logo after switching to experimental, but the 411 one didn't.

And no more bugs.

[vale iron]

Yay, problem fixed

[ruby torrent]

Will there be less players on the anomaly if I stay on experimental?

[vale iron]

Until they push experimental to public. Once they do that, they share versions and it will be full again

[ruby torrent]

Alright.

I will stay on experimental for your mod.

[vale iron]

Glad to hear it 🙂

I was thinking of decreasing creature spawns too, let me know what you think on that

[ruby torrent]

I been playing No man sky since launch day, and I don't like the idea how every system there are full of npcs I know that is for gameplay reasons, but I like your mod that removed half of those populated systems.

[vale iron]

Yeah, I agree that there were just far too many populated systems and NPCs in those systems. Downside is a few mission bugs that require unloading the mod to continue, but nothing to be done about that

[ruby torrent]

Yeah, and the fact all of 256 galaxies in the game there are full of npcs when that is impossible in real life.

Well thank you for taking your time with helping me out.

[vale iron]

My pleasure

Let me know if you have issues or suggestions

[ruby torrent]

I wish Hello Games would make a official mod tools.

[fresh arch]

Keep in mind that even if they did, that would not guarantee every player could enjoy the same collection of mods

[ruby torrent]

Yeah, but it would make making mods a lot easier.

[fresh arch]

Sony's consoles do not allow 3rd party assets to be used in mods - that's what happens for Bethesda games

[ruby torrent]

Like Creation kit for Fallout and Skyrim.

[fresh arch]

I disagree, even an official modding support will not guarantee that players will not install a bunch of conflicting mods and ruining their game

[ruby torrent]

That is true.

[fresh arch]

This is just introducing another point of failure, and maybe HG cares more about having a working "out of box experience" with the game

[ruby torrent]

That the best thing about having a pc is you can have the choice of going with out of the box experience or you can mess around with the game files.

[fresh arch]

Don't get me wrong, I would love for HG to implement an easy way to use mods, but

Coming from Fallout 4 modding, where there are some great guides on what to do, dedicated communities to not just modding in general, but modding specific areas / mechanics of the game

[ruby torrent]

Yeah.

[fresh arch]

People still fuck shit up, people still install old, abandoned, bloated mods, people still install heaps of mods without thinking for a moment

[ruby torrent]

That is true.

[fresh arch]

I think HG just doesn't want to introduce in-game modding support just to avoid the headache of having to deal with troubleshooting via Zendesk

[ruby torrent]

And they would have to update the mod tools along with each patch I didn't think about that.

[azure marsh]

I'm curious, how does the sentinel ship mod appear to other players?

is it just a radiant pillar or vector or something

[vale iron]

Not sure, but is it even working? I remember hearing it didn't work anymore

[azure marsh]

last updated yesterday

so i assume yes

[vale iron]

Ahh, it was reports of multiplayer de-sync, not sure if it's resolved or not

Looks like the bug has been around for a while

[azure marsh]

ahh

[ruby torrent]

I am happy that Gloney is finally fixed this mod parried with the Alien terrain mod that makes the terrain behave like pre-Next terrain, and the grass render mod by Lasagna is the best version of No man sky.

[night adder]

@vale iron Pretty sure someone managed to get Interceptors to sync by replacing the Sphere model from Sphere Creator at one point - don't recall whether they were flyable though lol.

[hearty wasp]

it's network entity component

so it goes back to only people with the mod seeing it

[night adder]

Ah, yeah that'd make sense, thankya for clarifying. 🙂

[green jewel]

Hello I have turned NMS backon after my RANT last week decided that I could not live without it.

So decided to debug all my scripts. I got down to three failing. As a last resort I installed the EXPRIMENTAL version and they all Compiled with no Errors. I have never looked at the beta before WHAT A ~~~~ So the question I was going to ask about LUA is now not needed.

Can Somebody jest enlighen why BETA (Expermintal) was ok ?

[fallow meadow]

MBINCompiler is needed to work with AMUMSS, and is been updated following experimental updates. There is a difference between public branch and experimental branch

[green jewel]

I do have over 2000 hours playing it so as far as i am concerened it has earned the praise.

[green jewel]

Well at least I am well happy again. Also Discord is a better source of help I have being tearing hair out since lunchtime 😉

[green jewel]

Any way can someone tell me where to find an index to the core pak files so i can do some of my own mods.

[hearty wasp]

you're better off unpacking all of em

many files are interlinked and we don't track which pak has which

since they're not separated by folder

or you can use NMSMB which doesn't need unpacking if you like C#

[green jewel]

No problem I take it to unpack them you can use the tools that come with AMUMSS?

[hearty wasp]

aye

[green jewel]

Ta thanks.😀

[serene goblet]

Is there a mod out there that makes squadrons more effective? Right now they might as well throw rocks, that would be more effective. 😄 Not sure if such a mod is even possible.

[green prairie]

yes, if it's updated is another story

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2516

[solid hawk]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2469

Just updated yesterday for Fractals

[hearty wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/367

[green prairie]

the third pic is chef kiss

[open totem]

I was hoping the VR overhaul would include the ability to turn your body in real life to turn rather than using the thumbstick without having to recenter every time you get in your ship, bring up a menu, and other things. Unfortunately that doesn’t seem to be the case. Is there any mod out there that would do this? At this point I might even be willing to commission one if not

[hearty wasp]

no modder currently VRs

not one we know of anyway

can always learn how to do it yourself since you at least have the hardware

tho I doubt the possibility of your concept, may want to look into some external remapping software instead

[open totem]

Wasn't sure how possible it would be and I'm not good with coding to attempt modding anything more than changing values. I'll look into the remapping software though

[green jewel]

hHi, is there a way to search for a particular MBIN file in all the PAK files?

[marsh eagle]

Yes AMUMSS tool comes with a extra tool called pak explorer

Or use the archive https://github.com/NMSCD/nms-archive

[hearty wasp]

we usually recommend anyone trying to make mods to just unpack the entire game tho

but with NMSPE you can also just extract particular folders if you're just data mining

[green jewel]

Thank you i new you could do it but the paperwork is a mine field. I am trying to debug a mod. So this is a step in the right direction Thanks again.😉

[hearty wasp]

you can read an mbin directly with NMSMB too if you're just looking into one single file and want even less mess

[solid hawk]

If NMSMB, may want to use the dropdown to display as exml. By default, uses ebin, it's own formatting standard. Nothing wrong with it, just different than how anything else would display as. If using multiple means of viewing, may be confusing.

[rapid sandal]

NMSMB allows wildcard|regex searching of paths, dds paths (and shows dds thumbnail of matches), and text contents of various formats (including mbins). It also displays consolidated views of all language ID - value pairs for all languages, and other things. It doesn't have an installer, and doesn't require unpacking or decompiling anything to disk (does it all in-memory). As babs mentioned, when you view a matching mbin you view as ebin text, exml text, or hex; since most are used to exml to may want to use that if exchanging snippets with others.

[vale iron]

@frail jolt https://github.com/goatfungus/NMSSaveEditor

[frail jolt]

Thanks

[vale iron]

Scroll to the bottom and you'll see a link to download latest version

[frail jolt]

Ye

Ik how to use github xD

[vale iron]

Some don't 🙂

[frail jolt]

Ye

[vale iron]

@frail jolt Keeping it here since it's a little more related to modding. Yes, edit raw JSON

[frail jolt]

OK

How do i prevent dying

[vale iron]

Go to SpawnStateData\LastKnownPlayerState

Change it to InNexus

[frail jolt]

Ah nice OK

[vale iron]

Exit the raw editor, saving, then save on the main tab again

[frail jolt]

Ye

OK lets see if that worked

[vale iron]

If that doesn't work, we'll try moving you to another system

[frail jolt]

Def need to report this tho

Bc this is an actual game breaking bug

[vale iron]

Yeah, for sure

And consoles can't fix with an edit

[frail jolt]

Yep

Didnt work

I wasnt at the nexus

[vale iron]

The save time was appropriate?

[frail jolt]

?

Oh

I think so let me double check

[vale iron]

And you saved twice, once on raw exit and once on main tab?

[frail jolt]

Yes

That i did do

[vale iron]

Ok, just making sure

[frail jolt]

Im just not sure i edited the correct savefile, since there's two in that slot, save3 and save4

OK now its correct for sure

[vale iron]

Yeah, one is the auto and one manual

[frail jolt]

Now its last edited a minute ago

Lets see

Nope

Still fucked

Im not at the nexus

[vale iron]

That's really really weird. Ok. let's try moving you to a new system

[frail jolt]

Yeah that is weird

Idfk

Yeah i verified now, both of the saves have InNexus as last known player state

I also already verified all of my game files, and theyre all fine

@vale iron So how do i go about moving myself to another system?

[vale iron]

Edit raw JSON, PlayerStateData

[frail jolt]

Also this is a space station i literally just arrived at, and my player position is the one where im getting out of my starship

Does that matter?

[vale iron]

That might be why the innexus doesn't work, might be overlapping with the station. Next thing should fix that

[frail jolt]

OK

[vale iron]

Change RealityIndex to anything 0 to 255

[frail jolt]

Is that the galaxy im in?

[vale iron]

Or wait, I'll give you mine so I know it's safe

That's a safe nexus position

[frail jolt]

OK

[vale iron]

RealityIndex is the galaxy, yes. The Voxels are for the region, system index is system obviously, planet index similarly obvious

[frail jolt]

Yeah

Thats neat

OK let me see if i edited the correct savefile... xD

I did

Great

Lets see

Well it wasnt safe, i wasnt in the nexus

I was outside of a space station

[vale iron]

Ok, we can fix that at least

[frail jolt]

But i managed to get into my starship

And didnt crash

[vale iron]

Oh, great

[frail jolt]

So im fine

[vale iron]

Safe travels

[frail jolt]

Uhhhh ig ill just warp back to the area i was at using the space station teleporter lol

Bc this is like

Over a million lightyears away from where i was at

Its literally on the other side of the galaxy

xD

KEK theres an atlas interface here

[vale iron]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that

[frail jolt]

Oh a reason why it wasnt safe might be because im in survival

[vale iron]

Mine was a survival save as well, was just thinking that could be why, but I guess not

[frail jolt]

Lol

[vale iron]

Probably have to move the nexus location in the save file too

[frail jolt]

Thanks a lot

[vale iron]

No problem

[tired ether]

Does the mod "Remove lag when leaving planets" have any downside ?

I mean if it only get rids of the lag it would have been included in the base game no ?

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2217

[fresh arch]

I was using it before, did not see any downside

As for whether it should be included, maybe it has to do on how it works

Each asset of the game is compiled in those PAK archives, and what this mod does is the opposite - unpacking the files so game can grab them faster

[tired ether]

Interesting. I wonder why HG doesn't include it. If unpacking is the solution then why not ?

[green prairie]

the downside is your hardware, it just decompress the assets, so depending of your hardware instead of removing it can increase the lag

[marsh eagle]

Because I assume they use some premium test systems with NVMe SSD and so they never notice. Lots of systems do not use NVMe.

[green prairie]

that happens with jason's

so it end up on "test and see what happens", if nothing lags when you leave the planet, it's fine

although that mod isn't updated yet, but you can either update it yourself or do the manual thing on the description

[marsh eagle]

The optimization for asset caching is there. I looked into it. A reoccuring asset with the same seed that was used earlier is still cached. But it gets cleaned if you don't encounter the same seed asset for a minute or so. And if you open the main menu and discovery tab it for some reasons cleans the whole asset cache

[hybrid coral]

Just follow the written guide in the description, works perfectly fine without a .pak mod, no need to be concerned about updates :)

1. Navigate to <no man's sky installation directory>/GAMEDATA/PCBANKS.
2. Make a backup of the file : NMSARC.451C674F.pak.
3. Delete (! important) NMSARC.451C674F.pak from the PCBANKS directory.
4. Extract the backup of NMSARC.451C674F.pak elsewhere (using PSArcTool.exe -https://github.com/periander/PSArcTool/raw/master/PSArcTool.zip - You drag the NMSARC.451C674F.pak over the PSArcTool.exe file).
5. You will now have a folder called MODELS, move this MODELS folder to <no man's sky installation directory>/GAMEDATA folder(! not PCBANKS).
6. Voilà ;). Launch the game and enjoy a seamless planet to space transition again. (*The game will read from those loose files instead of uncompressing each time the NMSARC.451C674F.pak - Thus removing the lag. It is important to delete the .pak file from the PCBANK folder else it'll be looking for it before using the loose files)```

[green prairie]

until it happens like what happened right here

an update changes the pak

so you need to concern about updates

[marsh eagle]

What if we pack that file as mod but set the pak to be uncompressed (only store option).

We would have a regular mod, nexus mod manager can handle

[tired ether]

Someone already posted an update for Fractal

[green prairie]

stole

[hybrid coral]

Then you simply drag the updated NMS file over the tool and copy the folders over - still better than waiting for someone else to upload something to Nexus :)

[green prairie]

or you can use lenni script that you just double click and it creates the "mod" for you

automaticaly

[hybrid coral]

Enlighten me :o

[green prairie]

oh wait isn't lenni, it was monk

#215514674869829633 message

lenni has one too lmao

#215514674869829633 message

[dark knoll]

NMS supports Reshade right

i assume it doesn't break when the game updates?

[hybrid coral]

Yes, works fine.

[hybrid coral]

Yesn't, you can't use the older reshade presets on Nexus :D

[dark knoll]

older?

[hybrid coral]

Some only work with a specific version of reshade - I couldn't get any to work to clamp DoF properly

Ended up using the current up-to-date Reshade and set up my own

[dark knoll]

a specific update broke new vegas presets too i believe

so, will new presets work fine?

[hybrid coral]

I guess so :)

[dark knoll]

are there any other places to get presets?

[hybrid coral]

Not that I'm aware of currently

[dark knoll]

i should pick this executable right

PCGW says it uses Vulkan so i'll pick that

[civic horizon]

How do I know if a mod is compatible with the current game version?

[solid hawk]

If it's been updated since last Wednesday

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/newrecently

Ones that only change TEXTURES or palette mods would be ok too, even if older than that

[kindred nimbus]

https://github.com/goatfungus/NMSSaveEditor trying to download this save editor

can someone who knows how/what to do help me out

[round sinew]

download this file, read requirements further down (java runtime)

[kindred nimbus]

why that one and not "the latest version" btw?

oh, it worked

thanks

[solid hawk]

If you scroll further down the github page, under Installation, you'll find Download the latest version.

[merry wasp]

Btw should we propegate the how to's here too?

[solid hawk]

I do. 🙂 just a matter of someone asking a question about one of the platforms. 🙂

[merry wasp]

We could ask fore a dedicated pin

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2626

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2521

@magic lava could you be so kind to pin these?

[magic lava]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2626
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2521

[merry wasp]

Thx

[magic lava]

Np

[solid hawk]

Thank you sir

[lunar spade]

hey , i heard at one point there was a mod that would allow me to run the old expeditions since i missed them, anyone know how to do this?

[merry wasp]

run them probably not

you can purchase the rewards

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2062

[solid hawk]

Or https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1960

[shy grove]

[devout lynx]

guys i need some help

how i can return utopia speeder

i just lost it bc of save editor i downloaded today

is there any way to get it back?

[shy grove]

save editors usually make backups. maybe check the folders? i'm not super knowledgeable on this topic so hopefully someone else here can offer more tips/options.

[devout lynx]

how about i reclaim starship (turn off and turn on utopia speeder reward)

[green prairie]

did you delete the ship after claiming it?

[stable meteor]

@crimson moat steam keeps several backups in the cloud, maybe one of them is good? https://store.steampowered.com/account/remotestorageapp/?appid=275850

[crimson moat]

Are you sure you wanted to ping me?

[stable meteor]

@devout lynx

[devout lynx]

what

[stable meteor]

look above link

[devout lynx]

what next

[stable meteor]

see if your old save is there before it got corrupted

[devout lynx]

nah i just delete and claim that again

starship

[stable meteor]

oh ok, well hopefully its all fixed

[fresh arch]

@opaque pasture https://github.com/goatfungus/NMSSaveEditor

Load the saves, open the Account tab, look in the left pane

See if you got all rewards checked

(I got a theme that turns checkmarks into these boxes, it will look differently for you)

[fresh arch]

@thorn agate This is the mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2217

Problem is, it is not updated for the current version of the game (Fractal 4.12.1)

If you're willing to put a little bit of work, you can make that mod yourself for the current version

[thorn agate]

just found it, trying to do it atm

[fresh arch]

If you go to the Posts tab on Nexus page, you will see instructions in the top comment

Keep in mind that if you were to verify / repair game files using Steam / Gog / Gamepass whatever

It will download the PAK archive that you need to delete and put it back in

That can cause issues with the mod present

The same can happen when any larger game update drops live

[thorn agate]

got it to work! wasn't too bad. beautifully seamless now

[fresh arch]

👍

[cosmic parcel]

hello i'm looking for a mod for sort by alphabetic name items in my inventory

[fresh arch]

There is a good chance no such mod exists

[cosmic parcel]

Ok thank you for the answer

[deft mesa]

Account tab is greyed out in save editor, how do I fix this?

[stray nymph]

Hello! I was able to use NomNom to move my save from gamepass to steam today. I'm poking around to see if everything has transferred. The first problem I have found is that my settlement doesn't recognize me as overseer. It let me make a policy decision but the option to view the settlement status says terminal reserved for overseer. Is there a place I can edit to make myself the overseer again?

[hearty wasp]

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[hearty wasp]

People specialize in save editing there

[harsh rampart]

Is there any way someone on pc could get a egg from this guy? I'm in the system & my friend code is D673-FHN0-GNJZG

I'd greatly appreciate it.

[harsh rampart]

Here's the glyphs if it helps

[shrewd maple]

Are there any mods for flight stick?

[lucid edge]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2672

[dusk summit]

@vale iron has the compiler been sorted out, or are y'all (as a group of most Modders) still in wait-and-see mode for that?
...Just wondering about Gumsk's Gameplay - gGame

[wild haven]

So, I just recently got Better Planet Generation... is the intense pop-in and pop-out supposed to be happening?

[south orbit]

Somebody Make a mod that fixes ps4 crashes error CE-34-878-0 and send it to HG 😂

[hearty wasp]

See if steam input support it, else need to find an xinput hook yourself

[shrewd maple]

Thank you.. I know you can switch buttons around some… I’m gonna mess with it and see

[subtle marten]

So, re: nexusmods, which mods you all consider, must haves and QOL mods ?

[vale iron]

Compiler was fixed. gGame was updated a few days ago.

[dusk summit]

Thank you, kind Traveler!

[opaque pasture]

Is this something i have to download? Im not seeing it... im not much for using mods lol

[dusk summit]

I hadn't realized just how much I had relied on just the Quality of Life portions of this until it stopped working (Scanning distance for Hot Spots, red scans for unscanned items, and sped up Refining are the big ones for me) I know there are probably a slew of other things buried in this massive Mod I haven't discovered.

[vale iron]

I'm glad you enjoy it. If you come across any issues, let me know.

[odd crater]

What planet quality settings are you playing with?

[wild haven]

High

[odd crater]

Try playing on ultra then.

Also, BPG might have some issues until it is updated for Fractal.

[deft mesa]

Is there a way to edit account data on xbox?

[shy grove]

Not sure which account account data you're referring to. But on Game Pass / Xbox PC, using a save editor, you can edit some game data. If you have Game Pass Ultimate, which gives you access to NMS cross-save between PC and Xbox console, you'd be able to use a save editor on PC to update your save and sync it on the cloud to update your console's NMS save as well.

[deft mesa]

Im playing on xbox pc, tho in save editor account tab is greyed out

nvm when I opened save editor to post ss the issue fixed itself lol

[shy grove]

Oh good! Typical car at the mechanic scenario, "I swear, it was making a noise at home"

[hard niche]

I was trying to install a mod and now I am met with pc_save_space_warning_btn what do I do I cant load into my game anymore and in the menu its all coded subtitles like gamemode_subtitle_normal please help me

[hearty wasp]

Uninstall the mod

Why am I pink

[wheat holly]

What’s wrong with pink?

99% of pink things are delicious

[hearty wasp]

Nothin I just used to be this dark cyan blue

And tbf

I did suggest the modder role to have hot pink back in the day

[wheat holly]

😺

[vague gate]

is the utopia mod worth it?

[hybrid coral]

The Expedition or something from Nexusmods? 👀

[vague gate]

yeah

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2675

[hybrid coral]

I mean that's ultimately for you to decide - it changes alot of things at once and is more of an overhaul than just a simple mod.
If you haven't modded anything else yet that could cause major conflicts, then give it a shot and make a new Expedition Save with this modpack :)
Can always remove it before continuing on your regular main-save after you complete the Expedition

@vague gate

[vague gate]

ah yeah im just looking at like QOL stuff rn

[vague gate]

or anyone know of a mod thatll say what sort of planets are in a system just by looking at it?

[hearty wasp]

Can't

[wild haven]

The hell does any of that have to do with the Utopia expedition

[devout lynx]

guys

where and how i can download mods

[hearty wasp]

One of the pins link to Nexus Mods

Or you can just google that name too

[hearty wasp]

It's just the name of the mod

I can make a mod's name "I shit myself" and the mod can have nothing to do with shitting

I mean it wouldn't attract anyone to download the mod but it is within our ability to name things

[twin willow]

Any working mods to get the HUD to headtrack in VR?
Only ones I found are all outdated 😦

[green prairie]

you know full well if you had a mod named that it would make people download

make an overhaul turning the game more into horror and name it "I shit myself"

[hearty wasp]

When I figure out how I can make shit come out of the player character and not stick to its pants you bet imma call the mod that

And then I'll make a collection called "urine and feces" with that and SPPP

[green prairie]

the mechanic is already there with the pets, just find a way to make the character do it every 20 minutes

[hearty wasp]

That's the easy part

The hard part's separating the feces from the player character scene

Trust me I tried once

I moment I harvested the piece of shit the game crashes

[green prairie]

lmao

[wanton cliff]

Is there (and can there be; is this a thing that can be done with modding?) a mod to make the game stop switching active quests on me? I'm really tired of main quests hijacking my tracker.

[vale iron]

There is not one and I don't think it would be possible.

[wanton cliff]

Bummer. Thanks!

[shy grove]

Cuz you're Legend

[shy grove]

[quasi whale]

Is there a mod which will let you sort inventories?

[vale iron]

No, and don't think it's possible.

[chrome saffron]

any mods to help me get an s class freighter? I dont have endless hours to reload a restore point due to life and have been giving it a go on and off for about 2 weeks irl now

[shy grove]

Save editor. Check the pins for links / info for save editing

[chrome saffron]

thank you sir

[hearty wasp]

will smith ahh ahh role

[night adder]

What isnt easy?

[frail jolt]

OK so i want to make my permadeath save into a custom or survival save

I changed DeathConsequencesDifficulty to DestroyItems, as well as DifficultyPresetType to survival in the Preset and EasiestUsedPreset categories

But it still shows up as permadeath in game

And @night adder The reason i need save editing for this is because from the in game difficulty setting menu, you can't change the consequences for dying to anything else than deleting savefile in permadeath apparently

So now my question is why is the save still showing up as permadeath lol

[night adder]

Cant use the slider for Survival?

[frail jolt]

Nope

Its locked

Difficulty changes arent

I just cant change the preset to survival

Or to anything other than permadeath

[night adder]

Well, in save edit youd likely have to manually edit whatever custom options fields are there, in addition to changing the mode number if thats still a thing

[frail jolt]

I already did that as far as i know

Those were all of the fields that had anything to do with save deletion and permadeath

After that it started going over my inventory

[magic lava]

Mode values are still a thing, but now Normal, Creative, Relaxed and Survival share a mode value

[frail jolt]

Oh

Where is that?

[magic lava]

Pinned here

[night adder]

Right at the top

In json

Literally may be 1st line of savedata lol

[vale iron]

#nms-modding message

[frail jolt]

Oh

Thanks a ton

Ill try to see if that solves it, it should

Yep

Worked

Thank you

[green prairie]

it started working again then, because 4.0 changing that didn't work

[frail jolt]

@vale iron Can i drop a mod request? xD

[frail jolt]

I also changed all the other tags associated with permadeath tho

I changed the easiest difficulty, current difficulty, and death consequences

I just didnt know about the mode value

After i changed that it started working, but i had already changed all the others beforehand

[dusk summit]

smacks the game with the phuck-you stick. QUIT SWITCHING MY QUEST/MISSION DAMMIT!

[frail jolt]

Is there already a mod for removing all of the random fucking NPCs that wander around the freighter base?

They're really annoying when you try to use freighter refiners and they walk in front of you so you accidently talk to them instead of using the refiner or storage container, and then they complain about being interrupted

[hearty wasp]

None came up off the top of my head but I can think of a way of making that

Not that I have the time but it's possible

[wanton cliff]

I think there's one as part of Gumsk's gLonely.

[earnest cypress]

I would actually love to have those in normal bases

It would help make them feel less abandoned

I've built lots of random bases then felt depressed lol

[frail jolt]

They're nice ambiance yeah but like just yeet them from the refiner rooms maybe?

[earnest cypress]

There's worse

[frail jolt]

?

[earnest cypress]

I like to see things positively

Half full and not half empty lmao

[solid hawk]

@night adder Congrats Guy!

[south wyvern]

Say, which mod allows you to customize/color your ship?

[frail jolt]

Is there a mod that allows you to summon your freighter upside down while summoning it from a planet?

Would be really nice to not have to fly around it every time

Also the view from the freighter would be incredible

[south wyvern]

Which mods effect multiplayer?

(My friend is worried we cant play together anymore if he mods and I stay vanilla)

[wanton cliff]

The short form: people with mods can play with people with different mods, and both can play with people with no mods. You will not, however, all be seeing exactly the same things.

#nms-modding message

[candid flume]

Heres an odd one for ya...

So that's fun. Big space game guy, and flight in general. Don't encounter motion sickness much except for last night. The camera movement when accessing a freighters refiners... doing bulk crafting so I kept "woop woop woop" between the different refineries and my brain just flipped a switch. Any way to disable those inventory transitions? Double posted here to modding.

[solid hawk]

No such mod exists. Problem being that the freighter summon button code is a function in the exe, so not moddable. The only way to achieve this would be to rotate the model.....would be like that at all times.

[frank wave]

hey guys

is there a mod that makes nip nip and grah grah edible?

[lime mesa]

Anyone in her able to get me eggs from these guys

[green prairie]

there is a mod that removes the interact camera, but it doesn't remove from normal refiners, don't know about freighter

[steel crypt]

PSA:
All DUD'S SKY mods will be updated ASAP. Thank you for your patience. 🙂

[candid flume]

I'll look into it thank you

[hybrid coral]

@shrewd compass ||https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2062||

[round sinew]

@vital minnow afaik, edit json: search for "RedeemedSeasonRewards", then within that list, find "EXPD_SHIP09", delete its whole line

[vital minnow]

Aha! Was searching for the right ship, I'll do that, thank you c: