nms-modding

[silent pivot]

we agree if it was made before it s the first , right ?

some people have issue with that

https://youtu.be/7VOoThrqElw

[silent pivot]

i found the date i officially started modding :
11 april. 2017
i released a mods pack with selection of the mods of the date and an icon mod from me.
was one day before "Community Overhaul" release 😉 , for the archive

https://youtu.be/3SR0S2XZ6YE

if someone copy all your ideas , send you dm to stop updating your mods, never say" leave me alone", thats the lesson i ve learned

when i say copy ALL , it s at a point that it looks pathologic, to give you an idea. Like the guy wants to steal your identity and push your dead body in the water

( but i have good survivor instinct )

some people see kindness as weakness. But kindness is like a muscle, the more you make it having hardtime, the stronger it gets. I am at super-hero kindness level right now. And the super vilain is finally exposed. ok i go to bed, i am totally out of subject

funny video of the worst day of my life in NMS ( unmodded Fondation footage )
https://youtu.be/od2u2BmnwGs

( thats a good analogy of my time modding the game )

((btw i am not saying it s representative of all modders experience, i think i just was very unlucky to be the target of someone wanting to steal my life ))

• just to give the context why i only show up now . -

i would be glad to say dont worry this guy is in jail, but it s not the case - at all

my only defence is to wait that things becomes more and more obvious.

but my mental health depends on my capacity of not caring about everything that happened

i had to educate my mind to dont consider anyone can do it again to me - or that it is not him again in disguise when i talk to someone.
which made me look like a savage for a long time 😅

my ideas stollen , anything i declared, copyied ( that's the most creepy part tbh ) humiliated with false rumors, etc.

i never thought someone could be so cruel before.

now i know 🫂

[vale iron]

The one benefit of the ball ships with the messed up trail is that they are done by save editing, so they sync in multiplayer. Of course the messed up trail does, too, but that's the price

[fresh arch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2461?tab=images

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1928?tab=images

@vale iron those mods are what I meant with Better colors

[vale iron]

Yeah, gGame has that too

The better scan colors part

[fresh arch]

I will take a look, thanks for letting me know

[vale iron]

No problem. I recently updated it to speed up scanning on all difficulties, but haven't uploaded that yet

[vast gyro]

Any suggestions for any QOL mods? Never knew there was any, so this is all new to me.

[vale iron]

Lo2k is good for QoL mods. I have a few, but tend to focus on other stuff. I'll get you links

[vale iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/880
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1541

There are many other QoL mods, though, of course. Just sort by last updated and check the update dates. QoL mods tend to need to be updated for every release.

Redmas has been posting a lot of mods lately and I'm sure those have QoL stuff in them, but I think they tend to be more complete overhaul, but I could be wrong. Redmas can correct me and link to QoL stuff if so

[fresh arch]

I confirm Lok2 has some really nice QoL mods

[vast gyro]

Thank you! 🙂

[fresh arch]

Other than that, there is a mod to get rid of initial splash screens (with HG and Havoc logos)

And a mod that adds the Waypoint title to the initial loading screen, very nice eye candy

#nms-modding message

[magic lava]

Get rid of splash screens?! I'll sue

[fresh arch]

Here be my modlist

[vale iron]

The skip logos mod is old, but it still works

[fresh arch]

Skip Intro Logos (Updated for Waypoint)

Oh yes and No Notifications

Cause fuck them diamond icons on tabs names

[vale iron]

It didn't need an update, not sure why they 'updated for waypoint' 🙂

[fresh arch]

Who tf needs that

[silent pivot]

ah ok , was wondering what was the story behind them, cause i ve seen them on vanilla chanels

[silent pivot]

if you mange to keep the engine part, it will fix the trail

you can only keep the short engine, for example

"Engine A" ones

[silent pivot]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2414

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdcmTggEk48

Redmas Interactive objects:

• Farm more easily from your bases and spacestations :
  o Plants pot decorations Generates Sodium, Salt, Carbone, or Oxygen.
  o Fan Ventilation generates oxygene .
  o Collect All ferrite substances in Large Flat Crates.
  o Collect Silver, Copper, Platine & more in Cubic Crates.
  o Collect Chromatic Metal, Ionised Cobalt,Nanites and more in Freighters Hangars & Space stations Crates.
  o Collect Chlore on sea plants Decorations

• Quality of life:
  o Talking to Freighters crew will help you develop language learning and race standing levels.
  o You can acces the Piligrim geobay from the freighter hangar
  o You have access to system market from the freighter hangar
  o You have access to a Nexus type portal from the freighter hangar
  o You have access to spaceships customisation from the freighter hangar
  o Scan environement from anywhere ( freighters or bases ). Large Computer Desks are signal scanners.
  o Customise character skin from anywhere ( freighters or bases ). Lockers & Draws open character customization.
  o Save from anywhere. Beds & Light Tables are save points. ( /!\ dont save while freighters derelic missions, you are not meant to do it /!\ )
  o Upgrade your suit from your base. Roof Monitors open upgrade suit interface. (same costs that on space stations - this is only to avoid the travel).
  o Weaponrack allows to buy infinitly new multitools (the seed depends on the weaponrack ‘s location).
  o Tradingposts have savepoints, char customisations stations, portals, & depending on system race : Spaceship customisation, suit upgrades or weapon shops.

• Missions overhaul ( this will change the context of the mission - not the mission itself ):
  o Start or end missions from your Settlement. Talking to settlements people will give you missions prompt
  o Start or end missions from your Base. Screen monitors decorations open NPC's missions' interface.
  o Start or end missions from Freighters Base. Freighters'screens in corridors will give you missions prompt
  o Start or end missions from Freighters hangars. You have a missions terminal inside the freighter hangar ( small monitordesk )
  o Start or end missions from Trading posts. You have a missions terminals inside trading posts ( small monitordesk )
  o Start or end NEXUS missions from Freighters hangars. You have a Nexus missions terminal inside the freighter hangar ( small monitordesk )
  o Start or end NEXUS missions from Player Bases. Terminal monitors decoration open NEXUS MISSIONS interface.
  o Start or end NEXUS missions from TRADINGPOSTS. You have a Nexus missions terminal inside tradingposts ( small monitordesk )

• Dragonfly, Redmas New Customisable Exocraft:
• Trading post have another exocraft that you can borrow and customise.
• Cockpit is dynamicly customisable with the geobay ( shapes and colors )
• Dragon fly is un unused exocraft similar to the nomad ( the model is custom made by me. I recommand Redmas Super vehicles with aside this mod )

Redmas More bodyshapes options :

• Customize stations have more inbetween body shapes options ( visible by multiplayer encounters, and persistent in your saves. ( 4 in vanilla / 20 in the mod )

Redmas Building overhaul :

This will give advanced building possibilities ( all the changes where made case by case ( which prevents you from doing things that are messy for the game ))
Note that those built changes will persist in your save when you remove the mod or are visible by vanilla players.
o can build underwater structures, above water
o Can add more decoration and wood, concrete, metal walls, doors, floors and windows to freighters bases ( I've filtered the ones that will bug your base if u place them ))
o Can place decorations on settlements ( interiors and exteriors ) ( once u learned them ) ( you can also place them anywhere on worlds without a base ( as a side effect )
o [OPTIONAL] Free power : Electromagnetic generators gives power wherever you place them
o Exteriors standing lights are auto powered ( this change was made for decorating your settlement )
o You can put Exocrafts geobays in your inventories
o You can put power generators, batteries, and health stations in your inventories
o You can resize more things ( i ve filters the ones that will made you bug your game )

@vast gyro

[silent pivot]

you can customise what they are changing ( they are all in lua script and categorized under optional features that you can disable )

["GAMEPLAY_FEATURES"] =
{
["GAMEPLAY_OVERHAUL"] = "ON",
["QOL_FEATURES"] =
{
["ADVANCED_BODY_SHAPES_FEATURE"] = "ON",
["MINING_SPEED"] = "2", -- 2 to 10 (10 = REDMAS INSTANT MINING mod)
["NEW_INTERACTIONS_FEATURE"] = "ON",
["ADVANCED_BUILDS_FEATURE"] = "ON",
["FREE_POWER_ON_EM_GENERATORS"] = "ON",
},

( temporary interface btw )

but i am not gonna lie, i am in resting phase during this christmas time

actually, i just realised thoses ones are QOL too :

• https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2431
• https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2382
• https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2381

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzzuItGZGQg

yeah,i know, i feel you... i annoyingly always have a 10 minutes minimum length new video that illustrate anything i say

i am sure i am annoying, but i have like years late ^^

[vale iron]

Those look like good QoL options

[silent pivot]

#nms-modding message @vale iron

[lime mesa]

Hey does anyone know how to import freigter bases? I downloaded a freighter base and cant find out how to import that into my own freighter with save editor. I have a json file by the way

[silent pivot]

personnally i cant help with that , i am never using save editor ( to me it s too much risk to corupt your save )

[round sinew]

i only how to do with with goatfungus but

you basically open your save file, Edit > Edit Raw JSON; on the tree on the left, select PlayerStateData, then scroll down till you find PersistentPlayerBases, and then you either want to search (ctrl+f) for FreighterBase or find the base by number on the tree.

once you figure this out, it's literally just copy pasting

starting from the top,

scrolling down, ending at where the next base begins

select all, paste new downloaded base

[lime mesa]

Thank you

it was almost the same with save editor

[silent pivot]

with RGOG you can do any menus and title that you want.

[silent pivot]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2578/

https://youtu.be/QmEoXS7f9uw

[vast gyro]

do all of these mods work on XB gamepass version on PC, or just steam?

[silent pivot]

as long as you can create the mods folder i think. i am only using steam though, so i might be wrong

@vast gyro
How do you install mods on no man's sky Xbox game pass?
Installing Mods
Browse to No Man's Sky\GAMEDATA\PCBANKS.
Delete or rename the DISABLEMODS. TXT file.
Create a folder named MODS.
Place mod . ... ( .pak files )
Start the game and wait for the splash screen to disappear.
If done correctly the game will display a warning just before displaying the selection of saved games.

https://youtu.be/D3WfZC0ona4

https://youtu.be/LdaTHhoIoAE

https://youtu.be/4B0kX07QAtA

https://youtu.be/gPvFB9fP3pw

https://youtu.be/pVD1ySn3lAE

https://youtu.be/E9NMDdpTRII

https://youtu.be/zLIW1FAZEEE

https://youtu.be/0xeDyJsIhBE

https://youtu.be/tsLmEiW1AJU

[untold current]

What kind of mods does PC have???

[silent pivot]

every type 😉

[untold current]

👀

Example??

I’m new to this so I want to know ALL

[silent pivot]

i am doing full game revision mods

but you have very specific ones touching every aspects

[untold current]

Like what would a specific mod be

Ship mods?

[silent pivot]

you have ( but i might be non exhaustive ) :

• visuals mods
• generation mods
• gameplay mods
• bonus unlockers mods
• Colors mods
• base buildings mods

[untold current]

Ooooooo ok ok

So like what type of visual mods would there be?

[silent pivot]

for example for ship mods u have :

• mods changing their colors, or textures
• mods changing how you control them
• mods adding new variations to them
• mods importing spaceships from other franchises

https://youtu.be/w64D__hv8WY

thats a visual overhaul i am doing, but you can have ones changing more particular things

[untold current]

You can import ships from other games???

[silent pivot]

like water effects or clouds

[untold current]

That’s sick!

[silent pivot]

yeah, well they are pre-imported for you

[untold current]

So anyone can mod?

[silent pivot]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1891

[silent pivot]

yes, you only have to create a mods folder

[untold current]

I’m assuming there are YouTube tutorials for that?

[silent pivot]

Installing Mods:
Browse to No Man's Sky\GAMEDATA\PCBANKS.
Delete or rename the DISABLEMODS. TXT file.
Create a folder named MODS.
Place mod . ... ( .pak files )
Start the game and wait for the splash screen to disappear.
If done correctly the game will display a warning just before displaying the selection of saved games.

[untold current]

Oh okay

Thanks

[silent pivot]

since i do lot of diferent mods i show you my work, you will get a better idea

[untold current]

Okay cool!

[silent pivot]

https://www.nexusmods.com/users/44146502?tab=user+files

[untold current]

You’ve done all those??

The dark space one is sick

[silent pivot]

i have a lot , but i am modding since 5 years lol

[untold current]

Oh nice

[silent pivot]

you can tweak it as well

[untold current]

👍🏼

So if I import a ship

Will other people be able to see it too? Like in multiplayer?

[silent pivot]

nah, only few mods can be visible without the others players having the mods. Basicaly, only mods unlocking vanilla content, or base building mods

[untold current]

Gotcha

So mods are visuals for me only

[silent pivot]

https://youtu.be/D3WfZC0ona4 you have in this video several variations that you can do with my Mod editor

[silent pivot]

yes ^^

[silent pivot]

gameplay mods too

like if you have infinite jetpack they will notice it

[untold current]

Oh I can have infinite jet pack?

[silent pivot]

you have camera tweaks mods too, which i am not sure which category it is

[untold current]

Are mods like cheats lol like if I want the best multi tool and ship I can just mod it??

[silent pivot]

be careful anyone playing with this tweak cant return to vanilla lol https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2381

• people often says they cant return to vanilla - i can't too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzzuItGZGQg

[silent pivot]

i think so

i am not much into cheats mods, i do some but i try to balance it

but theres a lot that exists

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/categories/11/

[untold current]

Gotcha

[silent pivot]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2564

that one should be the kind of what you where thinking of

[untold current]

🙏🏼

[silent pivot]

@untold current i know which video i should you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpzhp60AtJ0

[untold current]

[untold current]

So I downloaded the ship mod but it won’t let me summon any ships

[vale iron]

What do you mean it won't let you? You installed both the custom ships mod and the ship summoner mod?

@untold current

[untold current]

Yea and I went to summon and there weren’t ANY ships I could summon

[vale iron]

Nothing in the emote menu?

[untold current]

Nothing

[vale iron]

Do you get a warning when you launch the game about mods?

[untold current]

Yup

[vale iron]

Could you post a screenshot of the PCBANKS\MODS folder, please?

[vale iron]

My best guess is a mod conflict. First, pick either the C or the S summoner. Both won't load. Second, move the ship maker and s-class mania mods to a subfolder for now to see if it works

[untold current]

subfolder how

[vale iron]

Just make a folder inside MODS called DISABLED or something like that and move the PAK files there

So you have only the custom ships and one of the summoner paks in the MODS folder

[untold current]

well so actually the ship summoner and s-class mania wouldnt work either

ive tried both seperately and nothing has worked

i tried the ship summoner and when it didnt work i deleted it and got the s class mania and then that one didnt work as well

[vale iron]

With the god tier ship maker installed? I have no idea what that modifies, so it might be conflicting. It would be odd for it to block the emotes from appearing, though

[untold current]

i tried it without the god tier mod

[vale iron]

Try moving everything but one of the summoners to a sub-folder and see if you get emotes

The emotes will all summon a golden vector, but I'm curious if it works

I'll post a screenshot how it should look

[untold current]

👍🏼

[vale iron]

Then I'll show you what it should look like in game

[silent pivot]

jsut saw that one, was funny but also very good / clever choice

[vale iron]

Thanks! Doesn't fit NMS feel, but it's fun

[silent pivot]

totally

thats the idea of the mod anyway

[untold current]

so im on xbox game pass im not sure if that makes a difference

[vale iron]

It should work on that as well

[silent pivot]

if its because of that, i am depressed

[vale iron]

Should get a bunch of star icons under the gestures submenu in game, like this

[untold current]

The subfolder thing worked!

[vale iron]

Ok, so now you can put the custom ships mod back in and those two should work, then we have to figure out what the conflict is

I'm looking up those other two mods to see what they are modifying

[untold current]

👍🏼

Yea I have no clue what they do

[vale iron]

Be aware, when you first summon a ship, it will look all chrome. That's a recent bug I don't know how to fix. If you accept the ship, save, and reload, it goes away

[untold current]

👌🏼

[silent pivot]

all chrome - a bug ? that sounds how they should look like

[vale iron]

Heh, it does look kind of neat, but definitely not intended

[silent pivot]

https://youtu.be/FYPj_BpzL-I

omg at a moment when you watch the video u can lose an eye

[vale iron]

Yeah, ships should be more metallic looking

hah, yeah, I see the flash you were talking about

[silent pivot]

you can also notice some ships designs that i didnt kept

and the reason why.

Hi, i am the jukebox of that channel

[silent pivot]

joke aside it makes me happy to share the videos that i did / rediscovering old ones that i ve forgot

[storm edge]

Anyone know if it's possible to install mods on the steam deck in desktop mode

[silent pivot]

as long as u can create a mods folder you are good i think

@magic lava is there a command for a "installing mods" reminder ? and if not, can we do one with that :
Installing Mods:
Browse to No Man's Sky\GAMEDATA\PCBANKS.
Delete or rename the DISABLEMODS. TXT file.
Create a folder named MODS.
Place mod . ... ( .pak files )
Start the game and wait for the splash screen to disappear.
If done correctly the game will display a warning just before displaying the selection of saved games.

[storm edge]

So it's basically like installing them on PC

[silent pivot]

yes, it should work

[storm edge]

Sweeeeet

Thankya

[silent pivot]

thx 🙂

!modsinstall

worthed the try ...

[fresh arch]

Yeah it's the same as on PC

[magic lava]

Installing Mods:
Browse to No Man's Sky\GAMEDATA\PCBANKS. (run !faq-settingsfiles to locate if needed)
Delete or rename the DISABLEMODS.TXT file. (Recreating it will disable all mods)
Create a folder named MODS.
Place mod . ... ( .pak files )
Do not place anything in GAMEDATA\MODS - the path should be GAMEDATA\PCBANKS\MODS
Start the game and wait for the splash screen to disappear.
If done correctly the game will display a warning just before displaying the main menu.

[silent pivot]

👀 why ?

[magic lava]

People kept installing there

[silent pivot]

i understand, what i dont understand is why that fake folder exists ( i always though i keep creating it by accident )

[magic lava]

Nope

No clue why it's there

[silent pivot]

ok ok 😄

https://youtu.be/h_xFEqF9ITc

[vale iron]

HG added it maybe a year ago with no obvious purpose other than to confuse new mod users

[silent pivot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQL_3pIQlk

dam that video reminds me i have tons of things to debug with current version

( i dont think current version is as good as that video - i had to disable some features later on for debug - and some tweaks that i did later arent as good . - It goes so fast to ruin a generation mod - that's the most stressful job ( when you are happy with the generation ) :D)

like the floating rocks used to look better, cant manage to find the exact same effect again

they looked better there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf4pbBRyCFY

was not on the same version of NMS which can have a role in the balance ( but i dont think it s the case for that example )

[silent pivot]

thats the current version ( i am still happy with it )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbZtzs5PzQI

[silent pivot]

https://twitter.com/hellogames/status/892792238421532672

Hello Games (@hellogames)

Mod level 1000000000 - courtesy of @_redmas https://t.co/aCIe8EdGZh

Likes

214

Twitter · Aug 2, 2017, 5:00 PM

https://youtu.be/Lk1qsnDk3pQ

[silent pivot]

https://youtu.be/6EZMMlu8zQI

[silent pivot]

https://youtu.be/1IpvhYn02Q0

[hearty wasp]

@sacred frigate sorry for the random ping but I'm interested in knowing how things like powerlines are save in the json in terms of their coordinates. I'm currently assuming that Position is the starting position and At is the other end, am I guessing correctly or am I way off

[sacred frigate]

@hearty wasp The power cables follow the same rules as other base parts but you need to take special attention to the transform scale values.

In regular base parts, Position is their location in the world. At is the vector in which they are facing forwards, Up is the vector in which they are facing upwards. All these values can be plugged into a transform matrix which represents the complete position, rotation and scale of an object. To scale these parts reliably the magnitude of the Up and At vectors need to be the same. e.g default scale the magnitudes = 1. If you double the scale, the magnitudes = 2. etc... If the magnitudes don't match across both vectors then you get some weird skewy results.

For cable parts - Position is the same (you're correct there). But HG have set up some kind of rules for the scale values for cables to work properly. What I've figured is that if you think of the scale of their transform in their component X, Y and Z values... the X needs to equal the distance between the start and end points, the Y needs to equal HALF of this distance, and the Z is just 1.0. If you extract the Up and At values from this matrix then you get the correct values.

To represent this in my app I'm actually not representing cables in their mathematical representation, otherwise you would get some weird non-uniform scale appearance appearing along the Y axis of the cable.

Hope that makes sense... the more I wrote it out the more I confused myself lol

[hearty wasp]

aight so if I'm understanding correctly, it's a combination of Up and At and they basically represent the direction and distance from Position, they are then calculated in a matrix to get the end point

I'm asking this because there exist a glitch that I think is abusing this mechanic and applying the end point as an ordinary base object after Position is set as the powerline @sacred frigate

and the Up and At values differ from what you've described for powerlines

and also they are not scaled in any way

[sacred frigate]

A glitch in the game you mean? Or the app I made?

start points and end points don't physically exist in the game. Cables are base parts at the end of the day, and their length is determined by those vectors yes

[hearty wasp]

in the game, I'll link a vid

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/760610306488795196/1055135136926150656/18535295b1334-master_playlist_1.mp4

anyway thanks for the explanation! gonna try to translate all this visually on a 16-year old level

[sacred frigate]

ah a glitch building thing

well I suspect what you're building after all that are standard base parts, so the vectors would just be the typical ones for normal base parts, not cables

those flat panel objects aren't scaled I assume? So their vectors would be normalized to 1

[hearty wasp]

they are not scaled, but I've found that the object in question would always face away from the cable's starting point

here's one of the objects

and you can see here that the objects always face away from where the first powerline plug is placed (the red thing in the middle)

[sacred frigate]

interesting

I'm wondering if the maths actually adds up so that in game it results in a non-scaled item

[hearty wasp]

I'm not gonna pretend I know how to calculate that but it'd be interesting to know

but the thing is the powerline plugs never are scaled

I'm guessing that it's the same for these objects because they are essentially behaving like the plug

[sacred frigate]

Yea I see what you mean

it must be placing those objects thinking that they are still plugs

[hearty wasp]

ye

this happens with all stretchable objects btw

this is an unused object with the center pillar coloured the same way

plugs get coloured like this as well

[sacred frigate]

Ah cool, so parts can be flagged as stretchable or not. For cables it make sense, and will use the vector to appropriately scale it, for non-stretchable parts it probably normalizes the values at runtime or something

[hearty wasp]

nice to know

thanks for the help, it helped streamline my explanation of the glitch a lot lol

[sacred frigate]

well the strechable thing was an assumption based on your pic there lol. What I suspect might be happening is that the maths some how lines up aslong as those vectors align properly no matter what base part, but I would need to do some experiments to properly validate that. But yea the fact that the data is coming out the same a cable plug is amusing lol

[hearty wasp]

well the wall itself is a scene that repeats itself

it scales to a point and then basically splits

I'd wager the cables do the same thing

[sacred frigate]

what part ID is that wall? Is that in vanilla game?

[hearty wasp]

prolly most observable in the cargo lines

it only has a part name

gimme sec to dig it up

[sacred frigate]

I've not seen it before, so would like to try it, and also see what happens if I swap the ID with one of the more common walls like timber or whatever

[hearty wasp]

MODELS\PLANETS\BIOMES\COMMON\BUILDINGS\PARTS\BUILDABLEPARTS\BASICPARTS\STRETCH_WALL_PLACEMENT.SCENE.MBIN
MODELS\PLANETS\BIOMES\COMMON\BUILDINGS\PARTS\BUILDABLEPARTS\BASICPARTS\MESHES\STONE\STRETCH_WALLB.SCENE.MBIN

again, it only has a BASEBUILDINGPARTSTABLE entry so you'd need to mod it in to be able to build it

[sacred frigate]

ahh okay cool

thats interesting though

[hearty wasp]

I can whip one up for you real quick if you have a min

I still have the snippet for it

[sacred frigate]

Nah it's cool, I don't actually have the time and I should be packing for holidays tomorrow lol

[hearty wasp]

lol aight

[sacred frigate]

Cool to see these stretchable parts though beyond the cables - I can imagine HG might have tried this out with curve placement things so you could make bendy walls and such

[hearty wasp]

that'd be cool ngl

[silent pivot]

@uneven basin ❤️

https://youtu.be/Iq4SSqwKZ7w ( thats an old mod )

you can use it as background, by using RGOG ( my mod editor ) , if you are interrested

but the most interresting part is that you can easily use any images you want

by adding your images there

and call it here

[silent pivot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8epylKJKTi4

[shadow pivot]

has any work been done on creating planet maps?

[silent pivot]

they are more or less a feature in game, at least there s not much more than can be done

oh, you mean like the gta-radar on the bottom corner ?

[ember spire]

@vale iron does your gbase mod that eliminates collision for building stuff make it so I will never get the message "cant build, too close to starship":

[vale iron]

No, unfortunately. That's some weird bug with cables. I don't know how to get around that

[ember spire]

uggghh

yeah it's like 50+ u

[vale iron]

I think it scales with the length of the cable. I've had it give me that at huge distances from my ship on long cables

[ember spire]

oh wow hmm

so if you stop it and make a connection maybe it goes back down some

cant do that with a teleporter cable unfortunately

[vale iron]

I'll look around and see if I can find anything related to that behavior

[ember spire]

possible to increase the max distance for short range teleporters?

i think they're only like 100u

[vale iron]

Yeah, it's just the cable distance limit. gBase boundary should up it to 1k I think? Let me look

4000

So you can go from one end of a base to the other in a 2k radius base

Default is 200u

[ember spire]

yeah i can never seems to make em 200 but that's great

[ember spire]

@vale iron I notice that when I return via teleporter terminus dunno about flying there through warp/pulse etc, that the base distance often is constricted back down to 50 w/your mod and I've gotta save and reload to open it back up

any known way around that

[vale iron]

That's a vanilla bug and no known way around it, unfortunately.

[ember spire]

fix it

😛

[plush wigeon]

no devs around here (or if there are, they do not identify themselves as such). we're just players like you

[ember spire]

its a joke

[plush wigeon]

yep, just making sure the volunteer nature of the server is clear, some folks think the devs monitor all the goings on or take requests, etc

[ember spire]

become a dev

and fix it

[plush wigeon]

lol

[silent pivot]

No one busted me yet , pheeeeew

[ember spire]

you're busted, ive busted you

fix all the bugs

hiding in a freaking cave I made underwater while using the build camera to set up some mineral extractors above the water because the freaking sentinels are shoot on sight and also I disabled them already and they just come back in a couple minutes

[silent pivot]

You havent played on pathfinder, they could attack uou while you were reading the monolith

[ember spire]

oh a super heated rainstorm and suddenly the sentinels don't want to be around to play anymore

wusses

[silent pivot]

@ember spire https://youtu.be/1nTy7u2iaiE

( stay till the end )

( or skip to the end )

( that was heavily modded - but that was a vanilla issue that got fixed later )

oh , now that i ve seen back the video, it was the combo: " you cant cancel the monolith menu + sentinels can attack you meanwhile"

[silent pivot]

joke aside contact !hellogames

!hellogames

[hardy aurora]

to view, enable Link Preview

**Hello Games Helpdesk**

📥 NMS Reports
• How to report a bug »
• Submit a bug or suggestion »
• List all your requests » (requires login)
• Run !Faq-SaveFiles for game file info.

Other Links
• Technical NMS Inquiries
• General NMS Inquiries
• Contact Hello Games »

[silent pivot]

https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000520485-I-have-an-issue-to-report

[merry wasp]

!hg

[hardy aurora]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[merry wasp]

@silent pivot that what you were looking for ^

[wild matrix]

Does anyone know a good reshade mod or textures

[merry wasp]

you want 4k texture or something?

don't think anyone is doing that

for now

[wild matrix]

I know

Any good reshades though

?

[merry wasp]

check nexusmods

!nexuslink

[wild matrix]

Alr

[hardy aurora]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky
https://discord.gg/nexusmods

[merry wasp]

but don't get your hopes up

[wild matrix]

Ima look it up

[wild matrix]

Alr

Thanks

[ember spire]

For..
What?

The sentinels are just aggressive on that planet is all...thought I said that in the other channel oops

[silent pivot]

Gumsk — Aujourd’hui à 11:50
That's a vanilla bug and no known way around it, unfortunately.

[ember spire]

The sentinels not reappearing?

I mean not stopping?

I wasn't worried or complaining about it actually had meant to put it in regular channel, was just laughing about it the lengths I was going to

[silent pivot]

anyway, if you dont have a bug it s better

[ember spire]

Afaik I didn't but 😂🤷

[silent pivot]

i am not gonna lie i am lost

in the meaning of this convo

[ember spire]

You replied to me! 😂

It's ok just mine some rocks

And everything gonna be okay

[silent pivot]

u r drunk, right?

[ember spire]

No

[silent pivot]

you party a bit early lol

[ember spire]

You pinged me fr

Said I should contact hellogames cuz you thought I was saying something about a bug

😂

[silent pivot]

that s what we are all supossed to do, cause complaining in a random discord channel will never fix it.

trying to show the good example here

[ember spire]

Ok

It seems a bit pushy ngl

If it's like that

Sometimes people are just enjoying the game, and forget which channel they're typing into

[merry wasp]

wish me luck XD

[muted hollow]

does anyone know if the gship custom ships mod is updated to the latest version? because i downloaded it and there's not even one custom ship

[merry wasp]

did you read the description ?

[muted hollow]

nope, i'll read it now

oh

i'm stupid

[muted hollow]

thanks lol

[merry wasp]

rtfm 🙂

[muted hollow]

anyone knows why every custom ship look like this? no texture at all

[hearty wasp]

close the game and start it up again a few times

[muted hollow]

k

[muted hollow]

still white, it's the 10th time i restarted the game, is it normal?

[hearty wasp]

nop

try another seed and see if that one's good

[muted hollow]

another ship?

[hearty wasp]

ye

[muted hollow]

nothing, i checked one by one

all white

i'll try to reinstall the mod

[hearty wasp]

yeah do that

and by reinstall you should remove it, run the game, and then install it again

[muted hollow]

just did like you wrote...nothing

the game doesn't want me to get custom ships lol

[hearty wasp]

everything gShip uses are either vanilla or packed in so it should just load

usually white means the material can't find the texture

[muted hollow]

i read the forum on the page mod, and actually it's a known bug, and the mod author doesn't know how to fix it, but fortunately if you select the ship and reload, it load the texture of that specific ship

messed up but ok since i only want the tardis lol

[hearty wasp]

gumsk "doesn't know" how to fix it because it's not up to him to fix

the game not loading a texture is not really his fault

[muted hollow]

i simply read "i don't know how to fix this" and i wrote his answer to the problem here

[hearty wasp]

and I'm simply explaining it in deeper terms lol

[silent pivot]

@ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEBDVUnPR88

https://youtu.be/xx1RHtfbsRw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKYGZZBlm8o

[wild matrix]

Does this work with better planet generator

?

[silent pivot]

it s not meant to, it s just another generation mod

though if you are familiar with aMUMSS you can try to merge them

all my mods are entirely generated from a single lua script

then place the mod you want to merge here :

and generate the mod again ( you can update my mods for any vanilla updates by yourself ( thought i might update the RGOG engine sometimes ))

your generated mods are in that location

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2578

https://youtu.be/Xf4pbBRyCFY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmEoXS7f9uw

( @wild matrix )

[wild matrix]

Alright

Thanks man

[silent pivot]

👍

[wild matrix]

I think I merged

Also good job man I downloaded most of your mods and they are amazing

[silent pivot]

👌

[merry wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2625

[marsh eagle]

Lovely mod, well done ! Brings ship hunting to a new level without being too cheaty or breaking something

[silent pivot]

the kind of mods i like 🙂

i dont like when it s too cheaty, you lose interrest in playing too quickly

https://youtu.be/ltrHlQD6Obc

[merry wasp]

Most of my mods have some sort of balance, some are 'make my life easier mods'

[polar pebble]

So I'm reading the AMUMSS instructions, and it seems that I can just put .pak-only mods into the ModScript folder too, and it will merge the scripts into the paks if necessary? With conflicting .paks of course overwriting each other because it doesn't try to diff them or anything.

[hearty wasp]

it will apply lua scripts onto the mod pak's contents if there are conflicting files inside that pak, instead of vanilla game files

[polar pebble]

Cool

I'm honestly kinda wondering why there's no tool to automatically extract diffs between mod pak MBINs and vanilla files, and try to merge them that way. You could get merge conflicts, sure, but would that pop up often?

[hearty wasp]

because the complexity of the files makes it nigh impossible

and when they get changed every update it is pointless

AMUMSS makes mods update proof on top of mergeable

[polar pebble]

So sounds like a ton of potential for merge conflicts

AMUMSS and LUA is nice, for sure. It's just disappointing that it's not the standard, that people still just publish paks

[hearty wasp]

people who makes luas are potentially learning 2 new languages

it can be a substantially high enough bar for some

[polar pebble]

Fair enough, can't ask too much for free effort 😅

Would be nice if every game supported changes at the property level like Skyrim or Fallout

[hearty wasp]

that we agree

[merry wasp]

@round sinew you use AMUMSS?

[round sinew]

sorta migrating over into nms mod builder, but i've not used it a whole lot to actually write mods yet

[merry wasp]

ah ok

i just wanted to hear some feedback on my how to AMUMSS

but if you don't use then i'll leave you alone 😄

been sitting on that pdf for weeks

if not months

[merry wasp]

Updated with V2
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2625

[flat moth]

Guys

What does these numbers mean in save editor? (Ship)

Are those seeds or smh

What will happen if i will just max it out

[fallow meadow]

@flat moth Those are base stats, and you may wish to be somewhat careful adjusting those, as we have noticed the health and shield being able to bug out MultiPlayer when set too high a value for the Player

But yes, just the base multiplier values for the 'tech', before any modifiers (upgrades/modules) are applied

[flat moth]

Understood

But can i increase damage or hyperdrive range by this?

Well, obviously i can, if there is a such option, but should i just write 100 in those, or i need specific number?

[fallow meadow]

I am not sure on the 'valid' data range for those values, but yes, it would alter those stats and can be improved this way. You may have to just change it and see the result. I do believe damage might actually need to be a lower value to improve the result. Just be aware this changes your ship in this case to no longer be 'vanilla' and could ruin some of the fun you may have hunting for cool ships. As always, best advise I can give before using the editor, is making BACKUPS! That way you can mess up without issue.

!faq-savefiles

[hardy aurora]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:nmsatlas:972222451801010207> **Save File Locations**

Steam
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...

Game Pass
%LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...

GoG
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...

Linux & Steam Deck
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...

When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Contributors: Devilin Pixy#9298, bkay201#1943

[flat moth]

Ok, thank you

[silent pivot]

i dont recommand to edit your save, It can cause errors, that Hello Games can't retrace if you report them

@flat moth

i dont recommand using mods in general

[fallow meadow]

lol yes, mods are bad!

[merry wasp]

_>

[fallow meadow]

(that's why I still prefer to call it ... magic 🪄 )

[merry wasp]

<_<

[silent pivot]

https://youtu.be/8TTu5U--kBM

[fallow meadow]

Nooo, more magic!

[odd flame]

I am tinkering with my save file with the save editor and using it to try and tinker with my ship inventory to make all the slots supercharged slots for fun but when I go too ship inventory in the json editor part it doesn't show my current ship?

[steel crypt]

I don't know save stuff, but you might try this link if no one answers here first.

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[steel crypt]

They do a lot of save edit stuff

[odd flame]

Oooh okay thank you

[silent pivot]

https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/2585?tab=posts&BH=0

@civic wigeon

[civic wigeon]

Hey, does anyone know if this is a legit site? Or are they hosting others mods without permission? I noticed a number of mods by Lo2k on here so just thought I’d check with you all. https://www.gamepressure.com/download.asp?ID=74530

[silent pivot]

idk but i dont see lo2k doing multiple hosting for his mods

Now that my mods are autogenerated i dont mind the multiple hosting though

[hearty wasp]

It is not

There are a lot of sites that just copy and paste mod pages from bigger sites

I've seen another one while googling my own in the past

Just stick to Nexus if you value your computer

[silent pivot]

Yes i ve seen mine too. The only thing that is annoying me is that they are all deprecated mods without any maintenance or assistance

[silent pivot]

That s a good point , i havent thought

[gaunt elm]

I'm curious is it possible to edit exosuit technology stats?

[fallow meadow]

Sure, but be careful editing some of the main stats for exosuit, as changing values for Health or Shield is known to be able to bug multiplayer to stop functioning correctly. Make a backup of your saves before trying

[gaunt elm]

Do you know how can I do it?

[fallow meadow]

What editor are you using to begin with?

[gaunt elm]

This one, https://github.com/goatfungus/NMSSaveEditor .

I mostly want to edit jetpack/movement tech module stats, since getting the stat combo I want and as high as I want are like winning a lottery.

[fallow meadow]

Ok, so you can just alter the values on the left side when on the Exosuit tab. Then give it a try. usually a value increase would improve things, but in some cases it actually needs a lower value.

To further make changes, you can switch to the Technology slots of your Exosuit and give yourself various blueprints, modules. When you right-click on those you can check the details. For procedural ones you can change the ID value, which is basically altering the seed, giving different results. You will have to check those in-game. Useful for when you find a really good one with max values.

You can check the NMS Creative & Sharing Discord for posts about those.

[fallow meadow]

Ah yes, that will require editing those ID values. You can not alter stats for it otherwise, unless you start using mods.

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[gaunt elm]

So: When you are saying this:
Ok, so you can just alter the values on the left side when on the Exosuit tab. Then give it a try. usually a value increase would improve things, but in some cases it actually needs a lower value.

You mean this part:

So if I want to change a tech's stat I actually need to click item details of it and change its ID.

[fallow meadow]

Correct, but as said, be careful with those, to not break MP

[gaunt elm]

Which I can find ID in Creative Sharing Hub community.

[fallow meadow]

And this is what I mean you can change to alter the stats for modules

I am sure some of those values have been shared in the Discord above. Check the appropriate channels there

[gaunt elm]

Yep I'm checking and will ask there which ones are actually movement module seed numbers.

However I assume if I make small change ( like adding few carbons ), editor will create a backup save.
And in case something goes wrong, I can just use that save file to restore stuffs and change my corrupted save with previous one?

[fallow meadow]

The save editors do make backups as well, but I personally prefer and recommend to at least make your own regular backup once.

!faq-savefiles

[hardy aurora]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:nmsatlas:972222451801010207> **Save File Locations**

Steam
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\st_<Steam64ID>\...

Game Pass
%LocalAppData%\Packages\HelloGames.NoMansSky_bs190hzg1sesy\SystemAppData\wgs\...

GoG
%appdata%\HelloGames\NMS\DefaultUser\...

Linux & Steam Deck
$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/275850/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Application Data/HelloGames/NMS/st_<Steam64ID>/...

When sharing saves in a report to Hello Games, it is best to create a package/archive of the full folder shown for your platform above (.zip/.rar).

Contributors: Devilin Pixy#9298, bkay201#1943

[gaunt elm]

In Editor my main game's save file looks like Save and Save 2.

However in folderthose are 1 kb. There is no way those are my save

[hearty wasp]

the ones that are not 1kb are your saves

[gaunt elm]

I mean it can't be. There is no way

[hearty wasp]

they are

saves are in pairs

save and save 2 are slot 1, 3 and 4 are slot 2 etc

[gaunt elm]

Ah now I see.

[fresh arch]

Found another nice QoL mod - https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1784

[fallow meadow]

I recommend to copy the full folder NMS or HelloGames, so it includes all files

[gaunt elm]

I'll probably just do it to avoid whole drama.

[fresh arch]

Is Lo2k someone from here? If so, thank you for making these mods, I really appreciate small fixes like that

[hearty wasp]

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[hearty wasp]

they're in there for sure

[gaunt elm]

It actually looks nice tbh. When I first noticed wallet animation it was a bit annoying.

[gaunt elm]

Tried it, it is wonderful mod. Without being cheaty or breaking anything ( for now ). Let me choose different ships! Even Living Ships!
Which is kinda awesome to be honest. And you turn off units spending in store, you also don't pay anything so price tag doesn't matter.

[merry wasp]

Thank you, don't forget to endorse 🙂

[gaunt elm]

Wait, did you create that mod?

Endorsed also. 👍

[merry wasp]

Yes

[gaunt elm]

I see so V1 is more like choose to ship you want and v2 is a bit random. Hmm I'll try V1 version, let's see if my game can handle it.

[merry wasp]

Yes

[rough bay]

I was wondering, why aren't mods available on the steam workshop?

[gaunt elm]

Because they're available at nexusmods.
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/

[rough bay]

it is just weird, like on platform sounds more reasonable but sure

I will eventually try them

[gaunt elm]

I mean not really, most of "Steam" games mods are on Nexusmods.

Plus No Man's Sky doesn't support Workshop.

[gaunt elm]

May I ask something, I installed V1 but when I'm in a system I can only buy 1 of type ship ( there is literally only 1 available ).
Also Its class is random. And even tho I buy multiple of same thing, I see same ship.

Is this how V1 mod supposed to work?

[merry wasp]

Yes

[hearty wasp]

steam workshop requires devs to turn it on

[gaunt elm]

Yep V2 is definitely superior.

[gaunt elm]

Well actually that's me (Vernass13) who you answered there.
I thought it has multiple tokens available in store.

[merry wasp]

I did that in testing

220k tokens is a lot

100's of pages

[gaunt elm]

I mean probably it would crash my pc.
I was just trying anyways. I backed up my save anyways.

But V2s version is more reliable than trying to list 100 pages of tokens.

[merry wasp]

Its the same effect as V1

In v1 i just moved them to optional products

[rough bay]

I have a corrupted save file, is there any way I can fix it? I've been continuously referred to this channel

If I try to load it the game immediately freezes, I don't even get in the galaxy

[marsh eagle]

What plattform ? Are you able to load the save with a saveeditor tool ?

[rough bay]

I am on steam, I do not know what that is

there is actually a tool for this?

what can it do?

[hearty wasp]

there are links to the commonly used save editors in pinned messages

or go to

!creativehublink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/AEXcap6

[rough bay]

I am scared of messing something up

[hearty wasp]

cool

then make copies of your save before editing em

[rough bay]

love how you are just talking about editing

sounds like saving a corrupted file is just

"ah let's boot up the editor and edit it" like it is a recipe or something

🌈

is it actually that easy?

Not even the save editor can open it

[night adder]

@rough bay Depends what you wanna do - the major editing programs have GUI set up for most things beginners want to edit, with failsafe code to prevent you from breaking stuff, so it's pretty easy to get started.

[rough bay]

like I said I have a corrupted save file and I want to save it

[night adder]

Have you tried both the Auto and Restore save files?

[rough bay]

yep, redownloaded entire game, verified files, tried both of those, prayed to any god with the server

(legit)

[hearty wasp]

eh, it works 90% of the time so it's sorta the first thing that we tell people to do

[rough bay]

it just sounds very unspecific and specific at the same time

[hearty wasp]

that's kinda just save editing in general

you can do lotta shit with it

[hearty wasp]

which one you using btw

the editor I mean

[rough bay]

so there are more

[civic wigeon]

Hey guys, this is kind of a long shot but wanted to check regardless. Does anyone know if there is a mod still available for the the Atlas Rises 1.38 version that allows you to call your ship after traveling by portal?

[rough bay]

you can call your ship by default

if that's what you mean

[hearty wasp]

aye #nms-modding message

the links at the bottom

[civic wigeon]

Not in 1.38

[rich bolt]

Hi, first time being here in the nms official server. I'm a modder/save editor and I heard this would be a good place to share my knowledge and help out where I can

[rough bay]

oh you are not actually playing in this version

[hearty wasp]

you can edit yourself to turn the portal check parameter off

[rough bay]

GOOD THAT YOU ARRIVED

[hearty wasp]

then you can call the ship

side effects may apply

[civic wigeon]

Ohh, good call. I have an older version of a save editor made for Atlas Rises. I'll give that a try. Thanks!

[hearty wasp]

anyway what name does the save editor have at the top left of the window @rough bay

[hearty wasp]

think it's called onothersideofportal or someshit, search for "portal" or somesuch and you'll prolly find it

[rough bay]

i just closed it but it is this one

literally called save editor

let me try that nom nom one since you told me to use that

[rich bolt]

goatfungus has always been my preferred save editor, very easy to use

[hearty wasp]

hmm, NMSSE usually is more versatile

[civic wigeon]

I think I can change the voxel address in the json. I'll take a look. Thanks again. Sorry for interrupting!

[hearty wasp]

oh yeah you can do that

[rough bay]

then why did the other person tell me to do that

[hearty wasp]

prolly easier to go back thru the portal to your original location before that tho

[rough bay]

WAIT NO IT WAS YOU

IAM SO SORRY

[hearty wasp]

I asked "which one you using btw"

I was just making sure we're on the same page lol

but you should try NomNom just in case that can load your save

[rough bay]

I am trying to get nomnom but I have to download another software for it and that software does not let me choose which drive to download on

why do I need that .NET software anyway

and why can I not choose a drive to download in 2022

[hearty wasp]

.net is a framwork that a lotta software uses

[rough bay]

sorry I am very annoyed by these

[rough bay]

well I am surprised I don't have it then

[hearty wasp]

.net 6 is relatively new

you prolly have 4 or 5

[rough bay]

makes sense

wow

nomnom crashed IMMEDIATELY

[rich bolt]

If anyone would like to learn about any of these, please let me know and I'll share them around

[hearty wasp]

do you have these featured in the creative and sharing hub?

[rough bay]

okay I got here

so what now

[rich bolt]

I think I've shared a few of them there, but not all of them

[hearty wasp]

I see

we often refer people to that server anyway

[hearty wasp]

looks like the manual save is marked as compatible, can you load that one?

[rough bay]

nope

already tried

you know what

I am trying it again because this seems suspicious

when I tried loading that one up, I deleted the newer one, the autosave

and it still crashed

[rich bolt]

sorry I'm late to the party on this one, but what's gone wrong for you exactly? just game crashing continuously?

[rough bay]

but I was also trying in offline mode because otherwise I couldn't choose it because steam cloud was interrupting

[hearty wasp]

save's fucked

[rough bay]

my game crashing on a specific save file

[rich bolt]

ah I see, what did you edit before it crashed?

[rough bay]

nothing

I never edited before

[hearty wasp]

if the corrupted save was uploaded to the cloud turning it on wouldn't've helped lol

[rough bay]

it was originally turned on

but can you navigate me through a method to load the manual save

I am really confused now from the information overload

[rich bolt]

interesting.. do you think someone else could run some tests on your save files?

[rough bay]

um

sure

can you try it?

[hearty wasp]

can you load the manual save in NomNom?

[rich bolt]

I'd be happy to

[hearty wasp]

if you can, you should be able to just load it up and save it

[hearty wasp]

that will update the last modified time and the game should recognize it

[rough bay]

is this what it should look like?

[hearty wasp]

well it loaded

[rough bay]

I am not 100% sure which version that is

[hearty wasp]

I think that is your account data

[rough bay]

I am sorry if I say something dumb but I have been trying to fix this since morning and I am really confused I am just not remembering what I did then

[hearty wasp]

not the same as the specific save

[rough bay]

oh

oopsie

but the save edit button is grayed out

[rich bolt]

could I get
accountdata.hg
mf_accountdata.hg
mf_save.hg as well please

[rough bay]

wait let me send you the autosave version, the manual save version and the others too

[rich bolt]

kk

[rough bay]

feel free to hack me with my steam ID

is this everything?

[rich bolt]

lol

[rough bay]

the manual save is not marked as compatible, I can choose whether it is marked

[rich bolt]

that should be fine, I'll take a look

[rough bay]

but both have the exclamation mark showing that they are not?

[hearty wasp]

ah I see

[rough bay]

thank you

[rich bolt]

run your backup4

[rough bay]

software crashed

[rough bay]

also what

[rich bolt]

sorry spoke too soon, hold on

[hearty wasp]

I'm getting a Error parsing JSON: unexpected end of file here

[rich bolt]

try that

save over the other save4

we've got a copy here anyway

[rough bay]

the others unchanged?

[rich bolt]

yeah just give it a go, load up save4 on the save editor

[rough bay]

what did you do

I thought you'd load the game up, sorry

but whatever you did I am trying

also I know it is just twenty hours but restarting now after I had so much progress and fun would really ruin the game for me, at least for a while

[hearty wasp]

yeah I feel that

[rough bay]

I am loading it up and it is gray screen currently

WAIT

[hearty wasp]

there're ways to fast track a lotta early game shit but you'd still need to do things again if the save is beyond repair lol

[rough bay]

I AM IN THE SPACE LOADING SCREEN

[hearty wasp]

cool

[rich bolt]

hmm, hold on don't get too excited

[rough bay]

That is still mote because just loading immediately froze the screen

This is progress

[rich bolt]

seems this was an expedition save 🙄

[rough bay]

What

So this is the wrong one

Are you sure?

[rich bolt]

either that or it's mixed yours and my saves lol

[rough bay]

😕

[rich bolt]

just see what happens when you load in

[rough bay]

Let’s wait a minute

that definitely does not look like my save

[rich bolt]

lol my bad, you can get rid of that if you like while I go back to working on yours

out of curiosity, what ship did it have

[rough bay]

um forgot the name but it was some ball

sorry

[rich bolt]

lol yep that's mine

[rough bay]

it was S tier with full inventory but I don't remember the nameee

[rich bolt]

in your save editor, when you go to select a save file, what options do you have

[rough bay]

in nomnom?

lemme try again

[rich bolt]

yeah

[rough bay]

ah I haev to reenter it again just a moment

[rich bolt]

did you send me all the files in that folder?

[rough bay]

I didn't send you the ones that are of different saves

[rough bay]

I think I sent everything else

this is what it originally lookes like

also I cannot enter this

it is originally ticked so it should be compatible but it does not let me edit

[rough bay]

anything new?

[rich bolt]

still working on it

[merry wasp]

Pro tip windows + shift + s lets you take snippets

[hearty wasp]

I just use alt prtscn

[rough bay]

wow

I know a lot of surface level stuff but not this

[merry wasp]

it is in windows since 7

or 8.1

[rich bolt]

@rough bay what's in your cache

it's 4am here so whenever you're ready 😅

Who's online on nms right now?

[rough bay]

sorry i was having a meal

this is my cache

honestly if this is too much work I don't mind, you don't have to pain yourself for a stranger

[rich bolt]

Ok I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to get some sleep, it's 4:30am here now 🥱

Some things for you to test:
Try joining a friends session with the corrupted save

Try making a copy of everything in your cache and then deleting the ones in there.

If when I wake up things still aren't fixed, I'll go back to trying. Sorry I haven't been able to do anything for you so far

[rough bay]

honestly I am so glad you are even trying with all your knowledge

have a good rest

[rich bolt]

Thanks mate, good luck

[merry wasp]

To anyone having problems or questions using AMUMSS i made a pdf with a step by step

If you have any feedback feel free to give me a ping

[scarlet quail]

does modding get you banned?

[hearty wasp]

no

[civic wigeon]

Dude, thats super helpful, thanks. Is it okay to share with others who may need help elsewhere (with credit given?)

[rough bay]

there is an official modding channel on the official nms server, of course not

[merry wasp]

it on nexus mods

so yeah

its why i made it

[hearty wasp]

someone wanted this enough to request it

[merry wasp]

Space Balls?

[hearty wasp]

nop

[fallow meadow]

@rough bay I have decompressed your saves to have a proper look, but I am sorry to say it appears your save data is incomplete (lz4 block compression). Because it is incomplete, it comes out as malformed for proper JSON to be loaded by a Save Editor. Basically all the data that is present, is from the start of the save data, all the way to the 'TerrainEdits', which appears to be complete. However, there is no more data after, while there should be plenty more. This is the case for both the auto save and manual save. If there is anything to salvage, it would only be the present data up to and including TerrainEdits. Anything from NPCWorkers and beyond is gone. If you wish I can provide you the raw decompressed data to check for yourself.

[ember spire]

does anyone know of a mod that makes it so refiners max single output is increased?

As in, for instance, say you have enough to refine 50,000 or so of a mineral, lets say platinum in this case, you've got about 50k gold and silver, but a single run of the refiner will only do 4095 and then you've gotta take it out and start it again

(or use multiple refiners)

i know there's mods to make it faster

[hearty wasp]

sounds like you're trying to increase the max stack of the output slot of the refiner which I think is not possible

[ember spire]

too bad

[hearty wasp]

I could be wrong but that's what I remember about it

it's more a slot issue

[ember spire]

well that would explain why there arent any mods for it lol

[hearty wasp]

there really ain't a way to fuck with the refiner too much

outside of recipes

[hollow bramble]

that looks like the rust bucket ngl

[rich bolt]

What did you use to read the file clearly enough to understand where it cut off? I was trying so hard this morning to make it work.

[fallow meadow]

A Python script that uses Lz4 to decompress the save files.

[fallow meadow]

The save basically consists of compressed blocks of set size, with a specific structure and a touch of 'magic'

If you're interested, do a search. You'll come across various similar implementations like Python, TypeScript, C#

[rich bolt]

Hmm ok, sorry to be nosey, I'm super green when it comes to coding, but I'm really interested to find out how it all works so I can better help those in need

[fallow meadow]

No need to be sorry at all, I appreciate anyone eager to learn

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyMods/comments/phyird/not_an_actual_editor_new_save_format_simple_specs/

[rich bolt]

Awesome thank you for that link, I've bookmarked it 🙏

[fallow meadow]

There are a few on GitHub that can do the job. I can see if I can find them again. It's what the save editors use as well, likely their own custom bit of code within the application

Here's the TypeScript one: https://gist.github.com/bdew/69252923b4abdffd5b825b70756a5800

[rich bolt]

Ah yeah that's the one listed at the bottom of that reddit, that'll definitely help, thank you

[fallow meadow]

ah yes, missed it in the replies

[rich bolt]

All good 😊

[fallow meadow]

Ah, and there's the Python one: https://gist.github.com/Chase-san/704284e4acd841471d9836e6bc296f2f

[rich bolt]

All of this makes me wish I took more interest in my dad's work growing up (he worked in IT). It's a tad more difficult learning and understanding all of this for the first time in my 30s 😵‍💫

[rich bolt]

Another bookmark 🙏

[fallow meadow]

Unless you really want to know the details, there is no real need to understand. It just allows you to just do the decompression and nothing else, so it can actually show you the pure data it contains without trying to do anything with it. Once you do that, it becomes obvious it does not contain all the data, but just stops where more is to be expected compared to any other save

And that is why it fails when actually trying to do something with it, like showing us in the editor, or ... loading it in the game.

It would have been great if it was just a mistake somewhere, like a comma or parenthesis missing

[rich bolt]

Makes sense, I was trying to do a comparison between evergreens broken 20hr save and my working 800hr save early this morning, but couldn't get a clear understanding of where it was going wrong.

My theory was that either he created a dodgy ship that needed deleting
Or
His character was somewhere the game didn't like
Or
He had an item on his account that shouldn't have been there (badly edited item)

But obviously I was wrong on all accounts, so I appreciate having that closure after working on it until nearly 5am lol

There are so many lines of code after npcworkers that if you were to paste in everything from a working save, his save would basically just be pets, freighter and multitools and the rest someone else's work. (Assuming that would even work in the first place)

[fallow meadow]

I think your approach was correct to start with. The attempts in both save editors to load them at least, gave some info on what could be wrong. NMSSE requires the mf_ counterparts, while NomNom doesn't, so you could also conclude that to not be the issue. So after those tests and still failing to be able to load, you could conclude it to be corruption of some sort. Checking the compressed data raw in a text editor is a pain and doesn't necessarily show much to go by. This was to me basically just a logical next step, being aware of the tools out there and capable of using those.

Also keep in mind, the raw data uses name mappings too, while the editor will show actual meaningful names instead if it were to load. Those mappings are made available with MBINCompiler, you likely heard of.

Oh and the cache folder is not relevant, just in case you were not aware

The cache folder mostly contains DDS images of waypoints you reached, base images, and alike. Also a JSON file with all the star names you see flying by when loading the game. And one or two more files, of no use when it comes to the saves themselves

[rich bolt]

Ah ok I see what you mean. I guess it was a bit silly to think I could have done anything at all without actually understanding the inner workings of true save editing. Nmsse has always done all the work for me, I've just done everything there is to do on it so I assumed I could get it working by finding any missing or corrupt components.. But alas, I couldn't even use the json editor to begin with, so I was clutching at straws to find any solution I could 😅

I appreciate all the info you've provided, looks like I've got a lot of research to do!

[fallow meadow]

Enjoy the journey 🤪

Oh and you may wish to check out the NMS Modding Discord as well some time. A lot of great knowledge and smart peeps over there, making many of the wonderful tools we use

!moddinglink

[hardy aurora]

https://discord.gg/22ZAU9H

[steel crypt]

What is that? The A-Team van....but in space?

[rough bay]

I don't understand what could have caused that

I don't know what is in-between terrain edits and npc workers, because I did not have a base that had npc workes in the first place, but if that means it is not recoverable I will just deal with it

@fallow meadow though I could not prove this with my tests, what you said seems to be on par with my theory that the save is incomplete because at the time of both saves, my pc did not have enough storage on C: drive, so perhaps it bugged out?
the only problem with this is that the game was unwilling to save even after freeing space

yesterday I tried testing this but I could not because my pc always found some space to free up

[night adder]

What you could potentially do is start a new save, and simply graft the missing JSON from it to fill in the missing pieces - unfortunately, bases, ships, and storage inventories are among the things missing, as well as a couple of other major sections. If it were me, I'd take it as an excuse to spend some time learning save editing so I could fill in the blanks with what I remembered having plus some things I simple wanted, to make up for the hassle lol.

However, if you only looked into editing as a possible way to recover your save and prefer to play vanilla, choosing to start fresh is the tougher route, and I can always respect people who choose the more difficult path. 🙂

[rich bolt]

@rough bay wulf is right mate, I know losing 20hrs of gameplay would really suck, but restarting might be the best option for you. Myself and many other modders will always be here to help you learn how to save edit to get everything you lost back, and much more.

I'm sitting on around 800hrs on pc and 1500 or so hrs on ps4 and ps5. This game has so much to offer for countless hours of gameplay, so maybe bite the bullet and kill off the dead save to save yourself any future issues that might arise from it.

[rough bay]

you are right, but I am a person who burns out quickly

you saw I had a 40 hour save, but there were a lot of things I overdid in that save and a lot of things I didn't do at all so I burned out from it

I restarted the game last week and I had so much fun, I got an S class freighter first try, got really strong upgrades and so on

you are right though, and I am soon going to restart since you gave me the motivation again

thank you for helping me

I will make sure to always backup my game

Also, I am going to return to save editing once I am at a stage of the game where I have been enough

until then, so long

[fallow meadow]

@rough bay Thanks for getting back at me. A lack of storage space could certainly cause all sorts of issues. Keep an eye on the saving when you try again, just to make sure it goes fine again after having that sorted. Do let us know if you run into issues again, or need further assistance.

[rough bay]

Thank you, I will make sure to!

[fresh arch]

Question for mod makers:

Would there be a way to alter some elements of the item card text?

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/nomanssky_gamepedia/images/0/04/NmsStarship_AIValves.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20200813214240

This item card for example

Specifically the "Used for" section

[hearty wasp]

not sure about how proc product text is structured but just search the language files verbatim

[merry wasp]

you can pretty much create custom lang strings

looking at it through NMSMB

All the other stuff might be related to the type of the product

maybe

[fresh arch]

Actually I had this idea

Of using the color tags to highlight different use cases with different colors

Lets say Trading with yellow, Crafting with blue, etc

Using the tags from guide pinned here

Thought that would help the players note the different uses better

[merry wasp]

hmm

might be possible

[fresh arch]

Yeah was wondering about that

Since there must be a way to highlight a piece of text

[merry wasp]

there are some ways

[fresh arch]

Like the Space Station bit in the image I send

So I thought, why not these important bits as well

[merry wasp]

gimme sec

HG has some pre defined tags

i can give an example

I used these custom langauge strings

the whole highlighting of certain text parts is done by a few of those tag or whatever is should call them

[fresh arch]

So there is a chance that it is doable

And that I should start diggin in NMSMB

[merry wasp]

AMUMSS or NMSMB

try to fidn such highlighted texts might be easier with NMSMB tho

example

how those tags translate in colour is beyond me

[rapid sandal]

1. NMSMB, path search tab, search for STYLE
2. View result METADATA/UI/SPECIALSTYLESDATA.MBIN
3. Search in language tab for TRANS_TRA to verify this mbin controls color
4. Add new styles, or use existing, test in a mod script.

There is also METADATA/UI/SPECIALSTYLESIMAGESDATA.MBIN that contains embedded images

So STELLAR is:

        [39] GcNGuiSpecialTextStyleData
            Name = "STELLAR"
            StyleProperties List<NMSTemplate>[1]
                [0] GcStyleProp_Colour
                    Colour = (1.000, 1.000, 0.718, 1.000)
            Animation GcNGuiStyleAnimationData
                Length = 1
                Loop = False
                AnimateByDefault = False
                KeyFrames List<GcNGuiStyleAnimationKeyframeData>[0]

and TECHNOLOGY is:

        [18] GcNGuiSpecialTextStyleData
            Name = "TECHNOLOGY"
            StyleProperties List<NMSTemplate>[1]
                [0] GcStyleProp_Colour
                    Colour = (0.677, 0.804, 0.961, 1.000)
            Animation GcNGuiStyleAnimationData
                Length = 1
                Loop = False
                AnimateByDefault = False
                KeyFrames List<GcNGuiStyleAnimationKeyframeData>[0]

[merry wasp]

@fresh arch ^

[fresh arch]

I know these tags correspond to colors, now I wanna add them to the item use strings

Which I just did in NMSMS, will load up the game to see if I did it right

If my PC happens to explode, it was nice knowing ya

FUCK YEAH

Ok can somebody tell me what items are there to utilise the FUEL item use?

[merry wasp]

wdym?

[merry wasp]

any item that is fuel?

cause there are quite a few

[fresh arch]

I checked my inventory and I dont see anything that would have the FUEL tag

[merry wasp]

euh

[fresh arch]

Even Carbon shows as CHARGE

[merry wasp]

launcher fuel

come to mind

[fresh arch]

Nope

[merry wasp]

hmm

[fresh arch]

Neither does Tritium or Frigate Fuel

[merry wasp]

aha

Warp Cell

[fresh arch]

Still no

[fresh arch]

I meant the ITEMUSE_FUEL tag

[merry wasp]

OxygenCapsule?

ie Life Support Gel

[fresh arch]

Just Charging

[merry wasp]

Carbon Crystal

[fresh arch]

LSG is Building, Charging and Upgrading

That an item?

[merry wasp]

i guess

Unstable Plasma

that all i could find

@rapid sandal might know a smarter way to find it

[fresh arch]

When I pack the mod in NMSMS, do I need to include the .EXML file or is just the .MBIN enough?

[merry wasp]

wdym?

if you build your script it will be turned into a pak

so

unless i'm not following you here

[fresh arch]

From the wiki

Says packing will include all files in the project folder, but are all files necessary?

[hearty wasp]

if you're using modding station then it'll handle it for you

unless you copied over shit you didn't modify

[rapid sandal]

If you are modifying a game pak mbin, then you put the modified mbin in the mod pak. Some also include the exml as a reference but it's not needed|used.

[rapid sandal]

There is no mbin that contains "ITEMUSE_", other than the language mbin's. There is no enum that seems to contain all the ITEMUSE_ types.
The used for tags may come from something else e.g. METADATA/REALITY/CATALOGUEMATERIALS.MBIN and the other catalogue mbins e.g. UI_PORTAL_CAT_MAT_COOK category items may all get the Cooking tag.

[shadow pivot]

Any way to take snapshot of the final terrain render around the Player ?

[hearty wasp]

wym snapshot

a topographic map?

[shadow pivot]

Just a normal picture

[hearty wasp]

you can just use photomode

[shadow pivot]

What gpu produces but only terrain

[hearty wasp]

then no

[shadow pivot]

No good

I'd want it moving along with player

[hearty wasp]

nothing can make it so it'd capture what isn't your screen

[shadow pivot]

Ideally I'd want to just get the whole render of planets terrain projected on a flat surface

[shadow pivot]

Well you can intercept stuff from GPU, can't you?

[hearty wasp]

technicality can be very far from practicality

[shadow pivot]

What has been done for mapping planets so far?

[hearty wasp]

don't think there's anything about cracking the positioning system of planetary objects

[shadow pivot]

I'm asking about just terrain for now

[hearty wasp]

same for terrain since they're not option-based

[shadow pivot]

I know objects is a separate concern

I know some people were able to tweak the results of profedural terrain generation to get different landscapes on their machines

[hearty wasp]

by seeing the results one by one, yes

that's different than accessing the topographic data

[shadow pivot]

What do you mean one by one?

Voxel.by voxel?

[hearty wasp]

changing the params which the game uses to generate the terrain and seeing the result

we can't access anything in between

and we don't mostly

[shadow pivot]

Which params?

[hearty wasp]

I'm not the most knowledgeable but I think it's somethings related to like the sharpness, and the frequency of the waves

[shadow pivot]

Are they using FFT?

[hearty wasp]

that's grossly simplifying it, of course

[hearty wasp]

you'd have to ask HG