nms-spoilers

[humble sorrel]

that's great :P I'm abotu to hijack my friend's planet and didn't wanna take his only settlement

thansk]

[celest saddle]

Also side question, are paradise planets considered peculiar?

[fair rivet]

@cursive kernel on PC, while building a basepart, the 'V' is default for snapping mode

[fallen warren]

that actually looks really good, looks like a set of blinds

[humble sorrel]

is the new build menu confusing for anyone else?

esp deleting stuff

[fair rivet]

yep a little bit confusing. takes a while to get used to

[storm shell]

Yes

[sand karma]

I guess, but it also blocks a lot of the view 😄

[storm shell]

It snaps to the bottom walls for fucks sake or the upper ones

[sand karma]

Overall I think the building stuff is still a win though

[vague oriole]

The new free placement negates the use for some glitch building

[storm shell]

I'm fucken getting angry now

[vague oriole]

Snapping is kinda fucked up

[storm shell]

Bruh it's snapping outside

[light reef]

It said i cant have two colonies? Or can i

[fallen warren]

honestly, the free placement is super happy for me since i could never figure out the adjacency glitch xD

[fallen warren]

what are you trying to do?

[storm shell]

Build a ramp

[fallen warren]

switch out of snap view to free placement

its uhhh, V iirc

[rancid lance]

so you can actually build on the settlement if you place a base comp nearby

[sand karma]

Yep! Though it might get glitch-y when the settlement pops a new building

[vague oriole]

I wonder how they'll implement missions related to the monstrosity pet

They can't do kill monstrosities

Because you get it as a pet

[storm shell]

The roofs don't combine

[gusty stream]

How far into expedition 3 do we need to go in order to get the horror pet?

[storm shell]

The wall light doesn't snap to walls

[storm shell]

Did the expedition launch ?

[gusty stream]

No?

I'm just asking cause

[chrome eagle]

anyone know when the initial "settlement message" will appear in the questline? like, does it require X quest being done?

[gusty stream]

Expeditions aren't my thing but I really want it

[winter radish]

There's already an experimental patch

[timid mist]

@gusty stream it says "complete expedition 3" as the unlock criteria for the horror pet, so it's the final reward. aka you have to fully complete exp 3 once it's out

[gusty stream]

Man

Can we at least breed the thing and get eggs?

[timid mist]

no clue, it says they have unique traits but i kinda expect them to just be identical across all instances. would be cool if they had some procedural parts but i doubt it

[sullen hornet]

some of the settlement buildings have inaccessable rooms

[gusty stream]

Inaccessible how

Invisible wall?

[sullen hornet]

no theres no door

[gusty stream]

What

[mighty rampart]

LOL yeah

sometimes npcs just phase through a non door

[gusty stream]

What kind of technology is this

[storm shell]

How do i rotate on the y axis ???

[sullen hornet]

on some of the 3 story buildings, the third floor has no access points

[mighty rampart]

mouse wheel

[storm shell]

Mine is a 3 story building and only has access to the first floor

[sullen hornet]

RIP

[storm shell]

That rotates it on the x axis i think

[sullen hornet]

yup

[mighty rampart]

guess I got my axis confused

then it's A/D?

[storm shell]

That moves the cam lol

[mighty rampart]

or just see the keybinds in front of you

[sullen hornet]

they might have removed that rotation axis

[mighty rampart]

doubt it

[storm shell]

I think we stuck on the x axis lol

[mighty rampart]

oh there's a patch already

[sullen hornet]

yeah theres no discernable way to rotate y axis

[storm shell]

So rotate snapping part is bounded already but rotate part isn't

[spice gorge]

What is the tip prompt bottom right talking about? The construction computer wants this and that after timers but not 140 ferrite. Am I missing something? I see nothing willing to accept that item supply.

[near ferry]

anyone found out how to quit the overseer job ? to go to another

[jovial violet]

find another and claim that one

[storm shell]

Strange the building that you are currently building should accept it

[near ferry]

@jovial violet thank you

[storm shell]

Heeelp

[jovial violet]

like with freighters, you replace your current one with a new one

[storm shell]

I can't rotate on y axis

[spice gorge]

It wanted different things.

[storm shell]

Like what?

[spice gorge]

It wanted 80 ferrite

And some other thing -- not sure what it was

let

see what it wants now

[timid mist]

if its not progressing passed stage 1 of the build make sure you are on latest experimental

i had the same issue and it was fixed by that

[storm shell]

@mighty rampart they removed the y axis

[mighty rampart]

wtf

[sullen hornet]

that sounds like a meme patch note

[storm shell]

Wall lights don't snap to walls

[jovial violet]

maybe guntie had a hand in it

[storm shell]

Wtf

[sullen hornet]

-Removed Y Axis

[vague oriole]

Yes that's a guntie style note

[gusty stream]

Removed Y axis?

Did they actually

[jovial violet]

guntie is sean confirmed?!

[spice gorge]

Wait -- I just noticed, there are two things under construction at the same time, same timers, same readout at both terminals. Is that normal?

[storm shell]

@fallen warren how do i rotate on y axis

[icy citrus]

Yeah, long time ago

[spice gorge]

I just asked it to build the sotrage warehouse

[storm shell]

I don't know , maybe a bug?

[chrome eagle]

i had the same thing happen, second one asked for supplies, but never said what they were after the first one finished

[storm shell]

Do you know how to rotate on the y axis?

[spice gorge]

huh

Maybe I'll save quit and get the exp update

[icy citrus]

in game? No

[storm shell]

I can't rotate on y axis anymore

[icy citrus]

Havent got to play much yet

[sullen hornet]

I love the new base building UI but that it hilarious

[vague oriole]

Wait I don't think you can build 2 things at a time

[storm shell]

Oh my god i think it crashed

[shut flower]

I'm so sad they didn't increase the number of ships / pets you could have.

[storm shell]

I was building my base

[vague oriole]

Prolly the good ol update launch bug

[spice gorge]

Seems a bug, I only asked for one thing to be built.

Experimental Branch 01/09
Fixed a crash related to creature and NPC locomotion.
Fixed an issue that prevented players from starting new fleet expeditions or purchasing new frigates.
Fixed a number of issues that caused visual changes related to power to fail to display.
Fixed an issue that prevented refiners from correctly snapping to large base rooms.
Fixed an issue that prevented some large base parts from correctly snapping to each other.
Fixed an issue that caused NPC animations to display in unnecessarily low detail at a distance.
Fixed a number of visual glitches with dust effects.
Fixed a number of snapping issues with new canopy parts.
Fixed an issue that could cause NPCs to walk through doors.

Fixed a number of cases of missing or incorrect text.
Fixed a rare physics-related crash.
Fixed a rare crash related to settlement NPC behaviours.
Fixed an issue that could cause ships to land on incomplete landing pads in settlements.
Fixed an issue that could caused settlement buildings to fail to complete when their timer had finished.
Fixed a number of collision issues with street lights in settlements.
Fixed a rare rendering-related crash.
Fixed a crash that could occur when re-visiting a planetary settlement while a freighter base was spawned nearby.

[jovial violet]

welcome to the crash zone, rogan

[spice gorge]

Nothing specific to this issue

[vague oriole]

When i saw the more save slots i got hyped they'd add more ship snd companion slots

[spice gorge]

maybe: "Fixed an issue that could caused settlement buildings to fail to complete when their timer had finished."

[storm shell]

I was building my base and it crashed

It fuuuuck crashed , well it froze but no matter

[spice gorge]

Can't decide if I should let this 15 min timer finish or go get the update and come back first...

Hmm

[storm shell]

I'm pissed now

[shut flower]

Me too!

[vague oriole]

Especially with monstosity pet

[shut flower]

Yeah, was thinking the same thing

[storm shell]

Mah base

[sullen hornet]

Idk if NMS is at fault but the game hung after i closed it, steam refused to open again, and my PC isn't restarting

[storm shell]

I wanna disappear

[sullen hornet]

There's a Radiohead song that might help with that

[nocturne zephyr]

usually

[misty nacelle]

anyone else having issues with opening terminals? I cant open my expedition screen in my freighter for example, it opens for 1 frame and then instantly closes itself again

[timid mist]

should be fixed on PC experimental branch

[misty nacelle]

oh so it isnt just me?

[timid mist]

nah it was a common bug 🙂

[misty nacelle]

alright thanks

[timid mist]

are you on PC?

and if so do you know how to access the experimental branch on steam?

[misty nacelle]

yessir

[misty nacelle]

i dont even have a clue what the experimental branch is

[timid mist]

it's basically a branch where they push bug fixes before they go live. obviously going on it is at your own risk but ive never had any issues over the years

if you right-click on the game -> go to properties -> click on Betas, enter 3xperimental in the code field and then check code. you should have experimental in the drop down for betas after that

[storm shell]

Is the y axis rotation not being available a bug?

[timid mist]

no idea tbh, did you try it in free build mode, like snapping turned off?

[storm shell]

Bruh i can rotate in a flat circle

I want to straighten the thing up

[timid mist]

idk what you mean lmao

like the light is perpendicular to the wall instead of flush?

[cyan crane]

Sorry if this is a weird run down but..

I claimed a settlement. C class built office went to b class but I left at that.

Found new settlement, c class. Claimed it, built office.. it's now an S class and I can not build or make decisions.. wtf

[storm shell]

I want the thing to be standin not laying on the ground

[timid mist]

can you take a screenshot joe

sorry if thats a pain

[storm shell]

The game crashed while i was building my base 🥲

[timid mist]

severely unpogged 😠

[storm shell]

Basically i want to thing to be vertical instead of horizontal

[timid mist]

yeah i think i get what you're saying now. are these wall lights or stand up lamps?

[storm shell]

Basically it's a spark plug , it's laying horizontally but i want it to stand vertically

[uncut harness]

So do we have a definite answer on if its possible to find more than one settlement in the same system maybe on a different planet?

[timid mist]

if its one of the new parts it might be that it's a little bugged out or something. cant launch the game now but i will in a bit and see if i can figure it out (not that i think you're missing it, just curious)

[uncut harness]

I have one but I want another in the same system but different planet

[timid mist]

i think someone said it's one per system but yeah no definitive answer that I've seen personally

[storm shell]

The wall light doesn't snap to walls lol

It snaps to the floor

[jovial violet]

gunter demanded i put this here:

f

[timid mist]

why tf would you put a wall light on the wall 😤 loser

[spice gorge]

I submitted a zendesk bug report and mirrored it on the PC Exp thread, quoting your issue, as well.

[storm shell]

I wanted the sparkplugs to be like little bottles on a bar table

[timid mist]

yeah i feel like there's gonna be a lot of hotfixes for the new building mechanics over the next couple days

[icy citrus]

yep

[spice gorge]

Now it wants 3 metal plating, still not the 140 pure ferrite. And both buildings have the computers saying the same thing. Reported a bug. Oy.

[timid mist]

brave of them to overhaul saves and base building all at once lmao

[storm shell]

Huh

[spice gorge]

I backed up my save...

[storm shell]

I can't see the extra save slots lmao

[timid mist]

yeah its good they auto backed saves up too

they only appear if you add them

likeif you have one save it'll show one save slot + the "Create New Save" button instead of one save slot and 14 empty ones

[spice gorge]

Hm

I wasn't intending to "start afresh" -- did you?

[timid mist]

i actually want to but im waiting until i can mod the timers down a bit

[mighty rampart]

Fixed an issue that could cause ships to land on incomplete landing pads in settlements.

so this confirms that we will be able to build landing pads in settlements

[timid mist]

yeah just wait 8 hours

[fallen warren]

Yeah, it was my first building choice

[mighty rampart]

lmao for once I'm fine with these timers

idk why they feel fine compared to like, Starbirth

[timid mist]

I thought it was intended that I could land on it when the platform was built wihtout the roof 😔

[mighty rampart]

this is essentially fleet missions but you're physically involved

[timid mist]

i wish there was more physical involvement

[mighty rampart]

true, I was hoping we could pick the construction site

I still think they should drop the timers on the construction though, only have timers for the NPCs going on expeditions as that feels more in line

[timid mist]

like i get they don't want people to rush thru it but if part of the work is collecting the materials then adding an additional arbitrary timer onto that kinda sucks

would be fine if it was like 5-10 mins, 4 hours tho is like, just in that zone where it's too long to be realistic that I'll wait around for it

[mighty rampart]

the timers are mostly about getting out the feeling of it being a slow process since they are not as technologically advanced as us to just prop base parts and we're just the overseer not the worker

[uncut harness]

how to obtain a station override chip?

[mighty rampart]

still cant

[timid mist]

yeah i had a hacked one and tried to interact with the core, still just says "counterfeit code" and deletes it

[spice gorge]

I guess Settlement Entitu Mimuna didn't get the memo that I already am the Overseer...

[storm shell]

You got some of that sweet salvage data by any chance?

[mighty rampart]

anyone on the current experimental update?

[timid mist]

yeah sohail

[mighty rampart]

are you able to save the game?

[timid mist]

and joe i dont think so lol

[storm shell]

The settlers apparently have expeditions

[timid mist]

let me check now @ both of your questions

[mighty rampart]

there's people in the experimental update thread on steam complaining they're unable to do an autosave

[storm shell]

Added 50,000u to my debt

[timid mist]

sohail do you know the exact sequence of events?

it seems like mine autosaved fine but maybe it doesn't load or something?

@storm shell i have a thicc 3 salvaged data, sorry bud

[storm shell]

Np

[mighty rampart]

I havent personally tested, I thought if its this broken then I will roll back

[dreamy quartz]

@shut tundra (in response to what you posted in screenshots) rising sea level is no joke

[mighty rampart]

ermmm, ok so i can't save my game? lol. getting out of the ship doesn't display the relevant text and there is no save listed under 'options', manual saving at planetary markers also doesn't work. lmfao
also, this was true on survival mode before the experimental branch was opened as well

I am having the exact same issue zeantra, my game just doesn't save at all. So I essentially can't play the game :(

[timid mist]

hm sounds like maybe it was an existing issue that wasn't fixed by experimental, so if you weren't seeing this before it shoudl be ok? I can save at manual save point as well as getting out of my ship

[mighty rampart]

ok that's reassuring, thanks

[crisp fern]

just remember, this is what the community gets for not pushing back against them

and yes i know older games used real-time timers as well, but many of them didn't cross into 2 minute+ territory going into awful hours long timers

[cursive kernel]

!hg

:(

[vague oriole]

Leon i said it before

These are good timers

I like them

[crisp fern]

nope

[chrome eagle]

i don't mind the timers, settlements shouldn't be an instant thing

[vague oriole]

Kind of an incentive to play every day or so instead of "do update content, be bored for a month, do new update content"

[storm shell]

Why don't the roofs combine?

[timid mist]

"timers suck" != "instantly complete content" lol

[crisp fern]

they wouldn't be instant without timers anyway since you still have to gather resources and sort out the disputes and so on

[crisp fern]

they literally already have daily & weekly QS missions if you need that

[vague oriole]

Which are literally recycled content

[timid mist]

like not having the timers doesn't imply that nothing else would change, just advocating for something else that progresses the build process (i.e. playing the game) aside from waiting

waiting is less than recycled content, it's zero content lol

it provides precisely zero gameplay value aside from, do other stuff. what about if I want to do more active things to progress my settlement?

[mighty rampart]

not to mention a mobile game tactic lol

[vague oriole]

I don't think settlements are intended to be constant gameplay

Like frigate missions

[mighty rampart]

all the damn timers in Genshin

ugh

[trim dune]

yeah, you are basically starring at a timer.

[timid mist]

what a shame then

[vague oriole]

You can literally play the game

[icy citrus]

No, they cannot

Timers ruined it

[crisp fern]

this just means you get forced pauses between the recycled content like with QS missions. The settlements are new but it's not like they won't have recurring elements

[timid mist]

oh please lol

[vague oriole]

Or hell, even just go do irl stuff

[trim dune]

ha

Nice game design right there

[mighty rampart]

eh this is a discussion not worth going down anyway especially for this channel

[dreamy quartz]

Darn, it was just getting exciting

[vague oriole]

Other topic: how do you think the monstrosity eggs are gonna work

[mighty rampart]

I hope we can at least recolour our horror babies

[timid mist]

they'll be regular horrors but more likely to attack creatures or something

dont think it'll be much beyond that

[mighty rampart]

doubt they'll be able to mutate

[vague oriole]

I wonder if they can lay eggs

[trim dune]

timers in mobile games have a purpose at least. Is to make you buy time skips. But in NMS there is no logical reason to be here

[mighty rampart]

maybe size reasons

[crisp fern]

yes so your active gameplay largely remains photographing, gathering, & if you like it building stuff, great if you like that, but...Whatever like Sohail said, not the right channel, I was just responding to pings

[spice gorge]

Glad each step of the construction process is not like 36 hours...

[crisp fern]

they might snark at you

[dreamy quartz]

Keep mine as an egg forever to maintain value because eggs can be traded, although I guess it'll depend on if they can be bred

[timid mist]

😤

[mighty rampart]

the egg's value will be quite low

[timid mist]

probably like 16 units or 1616

like other stuff

[mighty rampart]

you will be able to get infinite copies, assuming it works the same way as the Dosimeter

accept, use, accept again

[vague oriole]

I'm gonna hatch the one on my main save, keep the expedition save, and prolly keep it as an egg or try to make it mutate

[dreamy quartz]

I meant value in the community lol

[crisp fern]

"traveler-friend can i have a bite of you"

[mighty rampart]

that's what I mean too

you can trade them for free since you can get endless copies

[vague oriole]

I'm pretty sure that was a bug that they just never patched

[dreamy quartz]

Like giving the golden vector to a new player

Oh yeah I have still have two golden vectors lol

[vague oriole]

If they can lay eggs then what would their native biome be

Airless?

[crisp fern]

btw which base parts besides the old basic set were thrown away? Was it just those?

[vague oriole]

Also i think the patchnotes said they won't act like normal companions

[vague oriole]

I'm pretty sure just those

And they weren't even rlly thrown away

[timid mist]

old basic set?

if you mean the wood/concrete/metal, those exist still

just under legacy parts

[vague oriole]

You just can't get them on a new save

[timid mist]

presumably so it didn't completely mangle existing bases lol

[crisp fern]

yes but they won't be for new players if i read right

[vague oriole]

Yes

[mighty rampart]

just those, and some that were never actually used

[timid mist]

ahhh okay, missed that part

[crisp fern]

so i was wondering what other parts might have been tossed

[mighty rampart]

like the "large power doors"

[vague oriole]

None as far as I've seen

[mighty rampart]

and on the other hand, some decoration that inexplicably disappeared, came back

[timid mist]

kinda glad they dumped the old ones cause they stuck out in a bad way to me compared to the surrounding art style

new stuff blends in so much better

[mighty rampart]

welcome back home, orange wall screen and corner table!

[vague oriole]

The only parts under "legacy" are the old vasic ones

They also finally fixed the bug with cuboid room frames occasionally dissapearing

It seems

But who even cares anymore

Cuboid rooms are out of fashion

[crisp fern]

how about those curved cuboids displaying corners when placed next to each other?

[timid mist]

i believe @rancid ether posted apic, those are fixed

[vague oriole]

I like how the moment they fix the annoying cuboid room corner not connecting thing they just introduced better looking base parts

I wonder if with the new accessible free place (aka no collision) mode ppl will find ways to fuse the different "styles" of buildings

[fallen warren]

Why use cuboid rooms, the new parts are awesome

[vague oriole]

Exactly

Cuboid rooms are sooooooooo origins

[crisp fern]

btw sorry for asking stuff in here, I just imagine the other channels are on hyperspeed

[vague oriole]

Actually they're on slow mode

[icy citrus]

Letting it bubble over for now

[vague oriole]

Also why isn't the new art on the ps cover

Smh

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/263030845940432906/882686667318784061/help-settlements-grow-cutout-2.png

The hub discord is agreeing to call this guy "sam the safety gek"

[timid mist]

nice view from the doorway during a storm

[earnest wharf]

nice

[vague oriole]

Opinions on that name?

[icy citrus]

works

[rancid ether]

I was already intermixing the base part types anyway. They could be connected pretty easily beforehand

[indigo smelt]

Something about the settlement system makes me feel like I'm playing a shitty mobile game.

90min timers, just why?

[crisp fern]

the free placement, moving existing parts, duplication, & edit mode are definitely the highlights of this update from a skim of the notes imo. Lots of long requested changes addressed with that

[vague oriole]

Leon typing

[crisp fern]

let HG know via the feedback option here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[strong bluff]

The timers made me dissapointed though for one reason - when I was playing RTS or just any games where you build some buildings I liked when games had animations or sprites showing how the building was built from nothing to its boundaries and eventually to the final building. Even Subnautica has similar animation.
While NMS just has... 💩 timer.

[indigo smelt]

Figured I would see you Leon.

[crisp fern]

which is weird considering they have an animation for part placement/materialization

[vague oriole]

Guys don't empower leon he'll never stop complaining

[fallen warren]

Out of curiosity, gek, vykeen, or korvax system?

Gek I assume?

[timid mist]

vykeen

[fallen warren]

Ahh good to know

[strong bluff]

In my case it´s Gek.

[gusty stream]

I will bond with the gek

[vague oriole]

Mine is korvax

Cool robots ftw

[earnest wharf]

do i need to go to the frist settlement and decline ownership?

will try that

[supple crater]

Ty Phrog

[crisp fern]

you act like i haven't kept a variant of this nick since Companions

[vague oriole]

True but at least you still take sleep over compaining about timers

Tbh i gotta give it to you

You sleeping singlehandedly let sean release the update

He prolly got too scared of your criticism

[storm shell]

base building is kinda harder lol especially because of the bugs

[indigo smelt]

So I finished the walls, now the roof. Sigh.

Another 90min wait.

[brazen citrus]

Anyone figure out how to clear debts?

[indigo smelt]

Productivity > Maintenance?

[earnest wharf]

aaaaa how do i get rid of this first settlement

[indigo smelt]

Find a new settlement?

[earnest wharf]

i didn't accept overseer role

[indigo smelt]

I would rather have higher resource costs TBH. I have tons of stuff laying around.

[crisp fern]

btw do we know if settlements replaced any old POIs, or just a new addition to the existing set?

[fallen warren]

Just give find another settlement

[earnest wharf]

how do

[mighty rampart]

new addition

[brazen citrus]

go to a station and buy a couple maps

[mighty rampart]

old ones still exist

[earnest wharf]

will try that thx!

[fallen warren]

Jump to another system, either use a star chart, or just explore planets

[crisp fern]

right, was just curious if they may have replaced one of the old small ones

[mighty rampart]

not that I'm aware of

seems more like these popped up in new places on planets

[indigo smelt]

I submitted my feedback, I doubt they listen. 🤷‍♂️

Seriously, the timers are stupid.

[unborn zealot]

Game generated third floor of settlement building without any enter/exit.

[fathom nimbus]

Any thoughts yet on this bespoke ship and planet gisto major?

[shut prairie]

Is there a way to see if there is any settlement in a specific system?

[crisp fern]

was kinda hoping for a unique ship look/type besides different tech

[fathom nimbus]

it does say it will take some work to get it going

"bespoke" is an interesting old term to use

[rugged grail]

any idea if the planet settlement map didn't produce any results, does that mean there's no settlement in that system or they simply fail randomly?

[fathom nimbus]

one of those words people don't really use anymore

and i'm kinda happy that frontiers was in fact about settling down and building a town

like in the old west

someone i know is like "oh like fallout"

[fallen warren]

Not sure

[earnest wharf]

right, my concern at the system level is that it picks something other than the planet i want

[fathom nimbus]

and i went
"yeah, pretty much"

[earnest wharf]

so finding something on the planet is ideal

[rugged grail]

true but it appears there's no guarantee there's 1 per each planet, or even per each system

[fallen warren]

The charts for settlements are unique, they only point to settlements

[earnest wharf]

bleah 😉

[fallen warren]

They cost 5 nav data instead of one though

[earnest wharf]

ok will try

[fringe notch]

Man, so many build features I used in Exosolars build mod are vanilla now, bout time!

[rugged grail]

and they get destroyed even if they find nothing in that system

[hard prairie]

So, we start off with a quest settlement.... if you don't like the settlement your quest leads you to, can you just navigate to a different one and continue the questline there?

[sand karma]

I doubled my settlements debt to send them on an expedition. Nice gamble. Hope it pays off. 😱

[sullen hornet]

It only makes me wonder what the next update will be

I was thinking a desolation part 2 with abandoned settlements

[rugged grail]

most likely the next update will be the one enabling expedition 3 🙂

[sullen hornet]

Well i mean next major update

[storm shell]

One of my buildings has 3 floors and i can't access the top two floors lol

[sullen hornet]

Can you change the style of settlement buildings or is it locked to that one style forever

[naive ingot]

my settlement banned Dancing

[sullen hornet]

@naive ingot that's tragic

[naive ingot]

I know, thats why I called my settlement Lazy Town

[onyx crow]

F

[celest saddle]

I absolutely love it

Only thing I've managed is to further rip the anomaly out of the fabric of reality

[fathom nimbus]

Does the badge with atlas on it just say expedition?

[naive ingot]

[fathom nimbus]

https://nmswp.azureedge.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/new-expedition-season-1-974w.png

[rugged grail]

Let's goo 🙂

[celest saddle]

Meanwhile I'm still trying to find a paradise settlement that won't lead to my dwellers dying from natural causes

[fathom nimbus]

Huh.... the ship is said to have a frameshift catapult... frame shift drive is something in elite dangerous

crossover?

"technologically unique starship"

[sullen hornet]

Yeah I think you could be right

Maybe the reward is a sidewinder or asp

[celest saddle]

So I'm guessing the new expedition is launching soon though?

[earnest wharf]

so i show up in a system
use one chart
and then hope the planet where the settlement is is one i like

[fathom nimbus]

possible, waveform engine and frameshift catapult (wouldn't that just be a new type of warp drive?)

[celest saddle]

Because the rewards are viewable in the quicksilver vendor

[earnest wharf]

i used a second chart in the same system and i think that was the wrong thing to do

[sullen hornet]

@celest saddle what are the rewards?

[fallen warren]

Pretty much

[fathom nimbus]

probably midas

[earnest wharf]

ok i got it thx

[fathom nimbus]

they tend to be a few days after a big update

[celest saddle]

New jetpack contrail and stuff like that

[onyx crow]

Nebulas are soo beautiful

[celest saddle]

Nothing extremely groundbreaking from what I saw

[spice gorge]

OK... So, I t riggered the warehouse storage unit building in the Settlement mention and two buildings started being made, both with terminals saying the same thing. That was a bug. The small one finished and isn't a storage unit, terminal went green. Then the other terminal was still red but would accept no more supplies. Bug. I loaded the PC Exp patch and came back in -- then the unfinished building WOULD accept parts and it wanted the 140 pure ferrite that the initial prompt told me to supply -- so seems they fixed a glitch.

Question is -- should I wipe the new save dir and restore old saves that I backed up myself and reload as if I've never loaded Frontiers before, or proceed with this seemingly now-ok save that is ok because of a fix that HG brought in the patch? I wonder if it's "safer" to restore saves from just before I loaded Frontiers for the first time. Or maybe that's worrying too much about the state of the save and having some issue long down the road that might prompt me to then have to restore save from before Frontiers...? Thoughts?

The two buildings I spoke of being constructed:

[earnest wharf]

mother _______ crashed again

[supple crater]

Think it's a good idea to wait for hotfixes before trying to go crazy on the new stuff.

[covert swift]

damn wish we could kill npc lmao

[timid mist]

😳

[uncut harness]

I bet they think the same about you when they see your ugly ass rolling up in to their village.

[timid mist]

🤤

[covert swift]

exactly my point!

[uncut harness]

😎

[sand karma]

People from my settlement went on expedition. Timer ended and then uh.... nothing happened. :3

[indigo smelt]

Kind of bummed we didn’t get a proper door that fits our exocraft.

Would love to have a big door that fits the big truck

[storm shell]

Anyone got some extra salvage data that they don't need?

[indigo smelt]

I suppose they could have made everything resizeable?

[timid mist]

bruh it's been like an hour just grab it yourself 😤

[storm shell]

Spent 90 mate

[timid mist]

Dam b

[storm shell]

It still ain't enough lol

[timid mist]

expensive walls

[storm shell]

Need like 90 more lol

[timid mist]

Jesus lmao

[lone solar]

how can I leave a settlement?

[timid mist]

Just find another one and become the overseer there

[lone solar]

ok so you don't have to abandon the other one first?

[spice gorge]

So you would restore and (then) not play on main save for a few days? I've never done that so far with an update... I assume some of you here are playing on a main or existing save and planning to continue on doing so, yes?

[timid mist]

From what I've heard it auto abandons it once you claim the other one, not exactly sure on the mechanics tho. I thought someone else said they could claim one per system. Haven't tested

[spice gorge]

You find settlements with maps of some sort it seems?

[storm shell]

It gives you a warning

[lone solar]

interesting, thanks

[indigo smelt]

Shame the update doesn’t include new power options, so you’re not hamstrung over hotspots.

[rugged grail]

yes you buy planet settlement maps from the cartographer in any space station

[indigo smelt]

This update feels mixed to me.

[rugged grail]

you can also apparently find them rarely thru rescue person type missions

or you simply explore planets and hope to stumble across one

[supple crater]

I went to explore some of the features, claimed the settlement from the mission and stopped. Noticed people talking about recurring bugs (which is normal) and decided to wait 'til some hotfixes are out.

[craggy sigil]

Finaly found a settlement on a Bountil planet....took like 20 systems

is there anything i have to do to get permissions for posting images? since its disabled for me here

[sand karma]

Hmm

[craggy sigil]

how much does the settlement rank matter?

[sullen hornet]

Probably not much

I assume you can upgrade eventually

[lone solar]

apparently you're not supposed to reload save files now?

my game always crashes

[craggy sigil]

dont tab out while its loading

thats what crashes it

for me atleast

[lone solar]

also, is there only one settlement per system? I can't find another one in my system, I'd like to get one on my home planet

[lone solar]

that might be it thanks

[rugged grail]

i think the settlements are more rare than 1 / system but not 100% sure

[craggy sigil]

there are some systems without any settlements

its very annoying

wish they were a bit more common

[lone solar]

what? really? I thought at least one per planet

[craggy sigil]

nope

[lone solar]

well that sucks. my plan was to own one on my home planet

[craggy sigil]

in some systems you can use the settlement map and get 0 results

[rugged grail]

same, but unless something changes, we have to live with the settlement elsewhere

[craggy sigil]

i found like 12 planets that were nice, only found one with a settlement

[rugged grail]

did the map work for you? for me it vanished and gave no hud markers

[lone solar]

yeah I thought they fixed that..

[craggy sigil]

thats what happens when you have zero settlements in the system

really, i just safe scum the system

[lone solar]

same

[craggy sigil]

if i use the map and either nothing happens or it doesnt appear on the planet im on, i reload and look for a new planet and system

[rugged grail]

i will do the same, thanks for the idea

[glass flare]

if you ignore the distress signal and go to another system, will you get a new one, or is it locked to that first system?

[rugged grail]

seems it's locked. i went in several systems and the signal didn't update

any idea what's in the experimental branch on steam?

[craggy sigil]

probably just untested hotfixes

[sullen hornet]

It's not locked lol

You might have to enter the anomaly

I changed what planet then quest starts on

[mighty rampart]

roofing has its own tab, this is so good

[vague oriole]

I think if you go far enough you can reset the mission

[rancid lance]

Did you move around while using all 12 map?

[mighty rampart]

and the general parts

[vague oriole]

Extensive roof options

[rancid lance]

Because i used one, didn't find one at first but then i moved to the other side of of the planet and i found one there with the map

[mighty rampart]

there's a half stairs option too oh my god thank you

[vague oriole]

The fact "extruded timber glass door" in in nms is insane

[mighty rampart]

there's also an alternative landing pad that's only 25 carbon to build??

why

[unborn zealot]

#nms-photomode-gallery message
Found nice semi-island settlement on a water planet.

[rugged grail]

interesting. i used mine from the space station. will try from planet surface

[mighty rampart]

settlements show up on your teleporter

[craggy sigil]

not really, good to know that it might make a difference though

[craggy sigil]

neat

[rugged grail]

they didn't on mine is this from anomaly?

[mighty rampart]

Yeah space anomaly

[rugged grail]

yea try from space station or your own bases, i don't think they show on either of those

[rose vapor]

I could have swore on my Freighter I had the ability to go to Red and Green star systems

now with this new patch i can't

It's like my updates disappeared

[rancid lance]

The maps have range

So save, use map, if none found reload

If you're broke on nav data like me that is

[craggy sigil]

weird that they love to detect things on other planets than instead of the one im on, lol

[hollow sluice]

Well, think I'm gonna wait for a new patch, I keep getting a lock up getting out of my ship

[rancid lance]

That is strange

[sullen hornet]

I think eventually the space station is going to be used to manage multiple of your settlements remotely, and act as your official home later down the line but idk

[lone solar]

by the way, Gunther predicted Sep 1st like 2 weeks ago lol

[viscid plover]

can you change the time to speed up the building process?

[storm shell]

Yes

[viscid plover]

thank god

[mighty rampart]

"alternative landing pad"

[unborn zealot]

Okay, just found you can't own two or more settlements. Bruh.

[viscid plover]

how do i do it through my pc clock?

[sullen hornet]

Make sure you're offline

[mighty rampart]

with a ship for scale

[viscid plover]

so do i turn off multiplayer and then im good

[hollow sluice]

nice

[viscid plover]

or do i go offline in steam

[mighty rampart]

offline in steam

[viscid plover]

gg ty

[mental socket]

my settlement isn't doing anything. It had a hour or so ago and then nothing

no buildables, no missions

is it normal to have such a silent period there?

[mighty rampart]

Too early to say

[vestal ledge]

Thatll prolly get added in a future update. I assume theyre testing waters rn

[mental socket]

Many people have been claiming the same settlement in galactic hub

and now they all are just stacked onto each other

[lone solar]

Okay, I have a problem.. I switched settlements but my log tells me to go to my administration terminal

which I haven't built yet on the new settlement

what do I do now?

[mental socket]

build it at the spot that has the yellow hologram

[lone solar]

ah, wasn't marked. thanks!

[mental socket]

Np. Still learning too

[modern parrot]

lol, Sean should have done more testing. It's so obvious this was gonna happen

[ember chasm]

Any save/game breaking bugs on ps4 I should be aware of? Not sure if I should jump straight into my main save...

[pearl cedar]

"citizen A's pet recently died; they allege citizen B poisoned it. Citizen B has recently filed a large loss with accounting". Fine citizen B or not. What do?

[celest saddle]

Meanwhile my town wants to go on an expedition

At the cost of $33k

I really wish I could just use my personal units to pay off debts

I've got 1.5 billion idk what to do with otherwise

[rugged grail]

it's not debt per se, it's production / day deficit

[winter radish]

My first dispute to settle was over a water flask

[celest saddle]

Mine was over a knife

[trim dune]

lol

[celest saddle]

I'd still rather the option to throw in my own personal costs to cover the loss of income for the township if it means continuous production

[stuck hinge]

Mine was who the dad was

YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER

[fallen warren]

so

i did some system jumping

and

[celest saddle]

My current settlement has +
Production -3 happiness and possible chance of casualties

[fallen warren]

compeltely exhuasted my navdata but

[celest saddle]

I hope we can change these later on (IE, upgrades improve them)

[fallen warren]

i can confirm

it seems korvax perfer alloy settlements, gek perfer wood, and vykeen stone

[trim dune]

that's nice

[storm shell]

So you a vykeen?

[stuck hinge]

🙀
Doesn’t a planet have multiple settlements?

[celest saddle]

meanwhile my first settlement was a Korvax stone settlement

[celest saddle]

They can but it seems uncommon

[fallen warren]

i guess im going vykeen, was hoping for a korvax system, but, the alloy is the least interesting building type

[storm shell]

I have a alloy settlement looks pretty cool

Just need salvage data now

[supple crater]

Haven't seen the different types.

[pearl cedar]

Yeesh. My settlement started at 18% happiness, and 78k debt (C class on paradise planet). They want to throw a festival that'll improve happiness by 5%, but double the debt. Or I can deny and lost 2% happiness.

[supple crater]

I'll go snooping around everything once some hotfixes are in.

[modern parrot]

Anybody unable to complete the first construction for the quest?

[hybrid pendant]

https://twitter.com/BoidGaming/status/1433154670889947143?s=19 WTFFF

BoidGaming (@BoidGaming)

#PS4share

Twitter · Sep 1, 2021, 7:47 PM

That a city

[storm shell]

Thought it was a settlement lol

[indigo smelt]

Oh, me too.

[hybrid pendant]

I think it is

[storm shell]

Isn't boid an avid builder?

[hybrid pendant]

Yes but maybe he time skipped ?

[storm shell]

If he got to that size he prolly time skipped for a month lol

[hybrid pendant]

Lol we will see

[storm shell]

Have you got any salvage data that you are willing to trade for ?

[timid mist]

i see the npcs running around in that pic so the bottom has to at least be a settlement. idk how they would manage to build stuff over it tho

[indigo smelt]

You can build bases on settlements if you are the overseer. Standard rules apply.

[celest saddle]

My settlement refuses to allow me to add a BC

Or build anything for that matter

[indigo smelt]

You may need to build the office first?

[celest saddle]

My office is built

I have people off on an expedition rn

I just keep getting warnings that the area is already claimed and I can't register a base

Although the settlement is mine

[timid mist]

oh i thought someone said earlier that you couldn't build a base computer within like 300u

[rugged grail]

try building next to the settlement where it allows, and expand the base towards the settlement

[celest saddle]

I'll try

[jovial violet]

if you can build a base over a settlement, are the npc's pathing and ai dynamic enough to allow them to use any walkways/rooms you construct? or will they stick to their prefabs?

[timid mist]

wonder how much it screws with their pathfinding lol

[jovial violet]

my question exactly

[timid mist]

i almost assume they'll just clip thru anything that isn't an existing structure

[glass flare]

First guy I talk to tells me, "We're glad to have you in the fight against the Sentinels"
Sentinels show up
Everyone just walks around like whatever
Sean pls

[celest saddle]

I mean, these dumbasses love to put tables in front of doors, so who knows

[jovial violet]

i really would like them to be able to use what you make, but yeah, your guess is more realistic

[timid mist]

all the minerals have their collisions removed inside the settlement so im guessing they just have lines between specific points

[jovial violet]

feels like a missed opportunity to not rework pathing and the decisions the ai can make...

[hybrid pendant]

I think its a settlement

[celest saddle]

Also, anyone get random pop-ups while warping that says they got 5 silver with an S class marker on it?

[jovial violet]

they did an entire talk about how they got creatures to path on a planet, would've been nice to see some of that be used to help the npcs out, but alas

[timid mist]

i think they probably built a base computer a bit off and then expanded it @hybrid pendant

[hybrid pendant]

Also i didnt noticed it was u zoid @timid mist

[timid mist]

yeah it me

[hybrid pendant]

Liking frontiers ?

[indigo smelt]

Actually having NPCs walking around was long overdue. And that is only very rudimentary.

[timid mist]

i like most of it aside from the longer timers. but that's easy enough to mod out once the modding tools are updated

it is nice they keep building on NPC depth

I hope they keep that up

[indigo smelt]

I was hoping the NPCs had actual tasks, but they just kind of stand around.

[timid mist]

I want hostiles

[glass flare]

yeah I was hoping NPCs would actually be doing things now, but it seems like they only still walk around and check their iphone

[celest saddle]

I think a way the settlements could be improved is to add a list of things that could be built via the overseer computer without having to wait for the citizens to ask for it. Also timers could be adjusted

[timid mist]

what's disappointing is they have less use than station NPCs

they just kind of exist

[pallid latch]

Yeah, the time gating is kind of annoying 😦

[indigo smelt]

Are turrets/walls an option for settlement defence?

[timid mist]

not sure, will have to see what people uncover

[indigo smelt]

Timers need to go away.

[celest saddle]

I mean, it's a start

I was kinda hoping there would be merchants though

[indigo smelt]

Me too.

[trim dune]

i would like to see more activities, and not only managing/building. More reasons to visit settlements for non builders

[celest saddle]

And the settlements would be more a dime a dozen rather one a planet

[indigo smelt]

Will there ever be a landing pad?

[celest saddle]

Yes

But you gotta wait for the citizens to ask for it

[glass flare]

in terms of NPC actions, that start came with what...NEXT? or Beyond? they haven't really deepened that. when Sentinels attacked I expected the townspeople to mount a defense, but nope

[celest saddle]

Which is annoying

[indigo smelt]

Oh, thats annoyying.

I do think a list of build orders makes more sense.

[celest saddle]

My very first thing they asked for in my first settlement was a landing pad

Then I relocated to a paradise planet

And yeah..

[winter radish]

The very first thing my settlement asked me to build was a starship pad

[celest saddle]

Also as for timers. They should go away for construction. But I think they're reasonable for expeditions

[indigo smelt]

Expeditions? I dunno.

[timid mist]

frigate stuff is fine yeah, that's sorta background tasks that you set and forget

[celest saddle]

No like, your citizens ask to go on an expedition

So you can expand

[timid mist]

still pretty long compared to the return you typically get out of them but they aren't as annoying as farming for mats only to find out there's an additional arbitrary 4 hour wait behind part 1 of consctruction, followed by an identical one

[hexed sluice]

Does anyone know if there is one settlement per system? I was hoping it was on my fav planet, but it took me to another boring planet in the system.

[celest saddle]

One per character

And per system

Idk

I think it can be a few

I heard you can have two on a planet

[indigo smelt]

There is always the middle road: timer that can be reduced by offering materials.

[hexed sluice]

Hmm ok, interesting thank you

[celest saddle]

But not every planet is guaranteed to have a settlement

[glass flare]

if you buy a chart from the station mapmaker, you might be able to go to a particular planet and use it there

[timid mist]

why not just make it require more materials without a timer at all

[celest saddle]

I went though 9 paradise planets

[timid mist]

the timer can be the time you spend gathering mats

[hexed sluice]

worth a try! my base is on an awesome swamp planet and I really want a swamp settlement haha

[celest saddle]

Just note the new charts cost 5 nav data instead of 1

[timid mist]

kinda sucks to design timers based on people who have a surplus of all materials rather than a natural progression of the game

[indigo smelt]

Thats why its the middle road. The other is gathering mats.

[celest saddle]

Or spending units

Again. Billion units with nothing to buy lol

[timid mist]

that could work with mats too, cause you could buy them lol

[indigo smelt]

How do you deal with varying efficiencies and varying efforts?

[timid mist]

what do you mean?

like someone making or finding mats faster than others?

[indigo smelt]

Humans vary by how efficient they are and by how much effort they commit.

[celest saddle]

EA: Microtransactions

[glass flare]

do we know if there's any actual lore for why the races have started to build towns? I could see the Vykeen doing it bc they hate the Sentinels anyway, but not the other two

[indigo smelt]

Lol.

[timid mist]

cause, in the least rude tone possible, who cares? set it to something fairly reasonable rather than just tacking on an arbitrary unskippable (thru legit means) timer that adds nothing

[indigo smelt]

I guess?

[timid mist]

like, there is already a mat requirement to start it

[trim dune]

250 quick silver to skip 30 minutes

[hybrid pendant]

fuck no

[trim dune]

LOL

[celest saddle]

Don't give them ideas

[modest crest]

Im 3 hours in on my first building (not my office) and its taking 4.5 hours... is this a bug? please tell me im not waiting nearly 5 hours for one building to finish with no settlement mission to do.

[timid mist]

not a bug

[hybrid pendant]

yup u are

[modest crest]

Yoo this is not okay Sean...

[indigo smelt]

I have seen developers design systems for the top 10% of players. Its a common problem in MMOs that nobody wants to admit.

[timid mist]

yeah to me the timers in this case are reflecting that

[celest saddle]

I wanna say the settlements were meant to be a passive thing

[glass flare]

the timers are a way to keep engagement numbers up. make you keep returning to the game

[timid mist]

adding arbitrary long timers to gate content because if it was purely mat based people would be done with it in like 10 minutes since htey have stacked inventories

[celest saddle]

But when I have to fly across the galaxy to settle a dispute over a pillow in order to keep people happy, idfk

[wind anchor]

Just I just got a broadcast from another system. Is there a way to get one for a particular planet (and even a particular race?) Like reload when trying to get a S-Class freighter?

[indigo smelt]

I still don't know how much population matters.

What is the cooldown on disputes/requests?

[modest crest]

But this is for the bottom 90%. Im waiting staring at these buildings with nothing else to do. I have the mats. AT LEAST give me the full list of what I need so I can crate is in a queue and log off. Then IT WILL BE DONE WHEN i GET BACK ON

Sorry for caps

[glass flare]

yeah unfortunately even if they fixed the economic system, they can't exactly take people's horded credits and resources away at this point

[timid mist]

that might be true but it doesn't make me want to do it at all lol

[celest saddle]

You can just use maps to find more settlements

As for settlement spawns, I think they're just permenant once they exist

[wind anchor]

Can you "own" multiple settlements?

[celest saddle]

Because you can't save scum their stats

No

[timid mist]

that's what I mean though, who cares about people with horded mats. It should be designed wholistically with the end to end experience in mind

[indigo smelt]

Owning multiple settlements is a simple fix, but each settlement should have something unique then.

[timid mist]

not like "we're releasing this today and don't want people to blow thru it by tomorrow", it just makes it frustrating

[glass flare]

on one hand I want my settlement to be on a tough planet bc if they are struggling on a paradise planet they are beyond help lol. on the other hand, i don't really want my only settlement to be on a hellscape

[modest crest]

No excuse to have us then just stare at the screen. Just makes us want to go play something else...honestly.\

[timid mist]

discourages me from wanting to do another save or even play the game longer than it takes to do a couple tasks

[celest saddle]

Yeah, I'm not looking forward to the settlement stuff via the upcoming expedition

[indigo smelt]

This update is not the most stable, I hope we get a patch soon.

[timid mist]

like, i get it's supposed to be a passive income thing, so they don't want to just make it easy. but they can lock it behind late-game mats and stuff, or add some blueprints that require more research in order to build more parts of the base

[celest saddle]

Because there is no way I'm gonna sit there and constantly adjust the clock on my ps5

[brazen citrus]

is there a way to pay off settlement debt?

[celest saddle]

Just to get stuff done

[icy citrus]

2 have pushed to experimental already, and internal updated a few minutes ago

[celest saddle]

Wait

[modest crest]

Exactly

[lofty vector]

Just out of curiosity how is the void egg unlocks working with quicksilver purchases being across characters? If I’ve bought a void egg on a different char can I now claim one on my new character or?

[brazen citrus]

i changed the time on my computer by 24 hours and the debt went from 80k to 250k

[icy citrus]

Only works for non consumables

[celest saddle]

Guess that's HG cursing you for trying to cheat it

Because debt is supposed to just fix itself over time

Though I still feel I should be able to slap my units to cover the costs

[indigo smelt]

Debt also punishes returning players though. They would be better off starting over.

[brazen citrus]

i was hoping there was a person i could talk to and give them units

[celest saddle]

The debt doesn't even seem to have a negative impact tbh

Just kills production of dirt for me

[timid mist]

the story does this well too, you're given a blueprint or a goal and you realize you just don't have the means or understanding to get something yet. so you have to work for it and unlock blueprints to travel to new systems and get new materials and such, to then progress in the story. obviously it's way harder than "add two 4h timers" but it's more fun

[brazen citrus]

i founded the settlement build the overseer's building and it's not letting me do anything else

[ember grotto]

how the new update work?

[celest saddle]

Build a thing. Wait

[timid mist]

debt doesn't affect anything other than how long it takes for you to see a return from the settlement once you start exceeding your operating costs

[indigo smelt]

What kind of mats can you even get from settlements when production is up and running?

[modest crest]

And fun IS the point. We are a tough bunch. WE STUCK WITH THIS GAME! lol

[celest saddle]

Mine is ground based materials

So dirt

[timid mist]

lol yes exactly, and i do love the new mechanics. just dislike this one aspect of it

[ember grotto]

I mean the the mission

[celest saddle]

The mission is build things and wait

That's the update

[modest crest]

I agree. The timer gates betray us most loyal day oners IMHO

[timid mist]

all the little visual improvements are really nice too, especially (like i said in another channel) the crackle of sparks when you destroy crystal formations. so satisfying now

[indigo smelt]

Dirt is nice if its renewable and in bulk. If you are going to sell me dirt, at least make it dirt-cheap.

[trim dune]

I hope they extended settlement activities for people that don't want to build/manage one. Give more reasons to visit them.

[timid mist]

yeah i hope they add individual interactions with the NPCs in settlements

[celest saddle]

I still want them to make the conflict meter do something

[timid mist]

would be cool if system conflict level affected the frequency of attacks on the settlement

[brazen citrus]

isn't that the Sentinel alert level?

[indigo smelt]

I don't see how it punishes you cheating when you can just time-cheat your way out of it.

[celest saddle]

I'd still love to see some kind of ground war or something on high conflict systems. And you could toggle it on or off before you make a save if you hate it

[timid mist]

yeah the design encourages cheating lol

[celest saddle]

It gave them more debt for trying to time skip

[indigo smelt]

But you time skip to skip the debt.

[ember grotto]

thank

[timid mist]

they'd have that debt anyway

[ember grotto]

you

[trim dune]

Elite does this right. System with high conflicts have combat zones all over the place.

[indigo smelt]

^^

[trim dune]

You can choose a faction and battle for them

[indigo smelt]

I reccomend the elite approach.

[trim dune]

sounds familliar ?

[modest crest]

maybe in 4.0? this update is Just 3.6.

[celest saddle]

I've never played elite

But I feel that's what would make sense

[indigo smelt]

Honestly, I wouldn't mind DLC if its subtantial enough for its price point.

[celest saddle]

And they could add military bases we could raid for space ships or smth

[timid mist]

yeah i mean if anything this update just gets me super excited for what the next couple will be. hate the timers but once they're able to be modded ill enjoy the content a lot more.

[modest crest]

lets just ask sean to change it lol

[trim dune]

give HG your feedback about timers

[modest crest]

this IS all for us, right?

[trim dune]

let them now

how you feel

[modest crest]

FAX

[trim dune]

maybe they will change it

!hg

[timid mist]

I think Leon has done that more than enough for literally everyone lmao, but yeah i think I will put something in

[trim dune]

heh

[modest crest]

Where is Leon's feedback? I would love to add

[indigo smelt]

How much will my settlement expand horizontally? I want to think about that when constructing a base near it.

[trim dune]

i don't think we know how big they can get.. yet

[uncut harness]

I wouldn't even mind if they give us some shitty item to let us time skip in game. Those who are happy to wait can, and those impatient can just skip.

Best of both.

[trim dune]

250 quicksilver to skip 30 minutes

[modest crest]

If I have too much mats and units...charge me that!

Ill craft or quest for WHATEVER item. I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME! Not watch my playstation 5 cosplay as an egg timer.

[trim dune]

⏲️ 👈

[modest crest]

I love the update concept. I HATE the timer cop out

[ember grotto]

so far so good i like it

[timid mist]

yeah like I get the concept of "just go do something else" but its not like frigate expeditions where its out of sight out of mind. I'm there, seeing the settlement, watching people run around, and it just comes to a steep halt the moment i see that 4h timer lol

[celest saddle]

Also the UI seems bugged

I can't debrief frigates

[timid mist]

not discounting the work they've done at all either, it's incredibly cool and I love it. just this one thing is the sticking point for me lol

[modest crest]

And you have to figure out its 4 hours! They tell you 1.5 hours at a time and you have to realize it.

[timid mist]

@celest saddle that should be fixed on PC experimental

[celest saddle]

I'm on ps5

[timid mist]

you should hopefully get it by tomorrow then 🤞

and yeah that's the worst part lol @modest crest

[modest crest]

At least tell me all of what I need and how long it will take AT ONCE!

[raven flame]

These functions are buggy after the FRONTIERS: UPDATE 3.6 update.
Loot of monoliths;
Frigate Missions;
Vehicle stations;
Stuttering sounds and music;
I'm not using MODS in the game!

[timid mist]

like maybe if there was a plan layout for a building and you could see the mats you need, that'd be one thing. But not having that PLUS having the "surprise" be a 4+ hour period of nothing happening, kinda sucks to me

[modest crest]

Better to go straight to Zendesk

[celest saddle]

But I'll take being unable to debrief a frigate rather than the bug that prevented you from landing your ship

In what, expedition 2 I think it was

[timid mist]

I submitted my thoughts on the timers on zendesk too

in a polite way lol

[crisp fern]

btw anything new with the station override?

also i would say more but gotta work

[timid mist]

nop, i had a hacked override code and it still said counterfeit and removed it

[sullen hornet]

Well we finally got a carpets and curtains update

[modest crest]

noted

[celest saddle]

Huh.. my expedition at my settlement returned

Surprised the came back with loot

When it was a charting expedition

[uncut harness]

🤔

[hybrid pendant]

oh boi

[wind anchor]

Has anyone been able to use map data to pick a planet to discover a settlement?

[hybrid pendant]

yup

i found this one ^^

[cloud epoch]

anything neat with settlements we didnt find in the first couple hours?

[wind anchor]

Do I just ignore the broadcast signal I get in space and keep investigating distress maps?

[hybrid pendant]

the interiors are nice

oh and also npc can dance

[timid mist]

i hope they make the interior containers actually contain stuff in the future

[hybrid pendant]

also u can smoke nip nip there

[timid mist]

they look cool but i wanna steal from my underlings 👿

[spice gorge]

I'm not going to worry about the early state (have had no save bugs) -- will keep going with my long-running save I loaded to start Frontiers, despite the building glitch (that got patched).

[celest saddle]

I think you have to do the broadcast signal first

[cloud epoch]

seems to only point to one settlement per system (or none). maps were fairly glitchy in the limited testing i did

[rugged grail]

woo, so my settlement was initially C class. now it upgraded itself to B 🥳

[wind anchor]

Do the broadcast signal and then leave? I don't want to lock myself in on some other random system if I can find a settlement on this planet where my main base is.

[static zenith]

Are there any spoilers in the new update?

[cloud epoch]

u can find new ones after u have claimed one

[glass flare]

i abandoned my first settlement. they couldn't be bothered to fight so i can't be bothered to lead them

[hybrid pendant]

lol

damn

ur a bad mayor

[cloud epoch]

ive sent my red shirts out to explore a crashed freighter, i expect losses like the first red shirt expedition

[unborn zealot]

I hate: timers, owning only one settlement, poor management without actual building.

[chrome eagle]

hm... can't seem to debrief my commanders who were on mission during the update

[trim dune]

bug

fixed in experimental

[chrome eagle]

awesome, thank you

[sullen hornet]

There's some buggles that needa squooshin

[hybrid pendant]

as always

every update has that

[sullen hornet]

Yep

[glass flare]

why are settlements authoritarian, let me form a council of elders with these dimwits so I don't have to do everything myself

[celest saddle]

The biggest change I want for settlements is to have a way to manually choose what I want constructed disregarding the timer things

[trim dune]

would you like some bugs with your update sir?

[celest saddle]

I don't wanna wait a potential month for a landing pad construction request

[sullen hornet]

I like that updates are buggy sometimes

I like experimenting with glitches

Looking for interesting bugs

[hybrid pendant]

can i put it in the bong?

[winter radish]

99 little bugs in the code. Take one down, patch it around.
127 little bugs in the code...

[trim dune]

sure

[hybrid pendant]

nice.

[cloud epoch]

anyone built a full building (other than office?) im on 2nd 4 hr step of generator tower

[spice gorge]

Yea, a bug had me build a tiny building alongside this storage warehouse

[hybrid pendant]

lol

[spice gorge]

1hr intervals on the warehouse, in 2nd timer wait

the timer on the small building was 20 mins

[gusty stream]

These timers are brutal

What the fuck

[spice gorge]

Ever grow a living ship?

[cloud epoch]

i mean we'd have exhausted the update already if they werent lol

[gusty stream]

I have

[chrome eagle]

did you ever successfully build the warehouse? mine's still stuck at wanting "Specialist Supplies"

[trim dune]

Add gameplay instead of timers

[spice gorge]

Small, bugged building in the foreground -- construction termnals said the same thing exactly until it was done.

[hybrid pendant]

😒

u cant even fucking let a day pass

ffs

[sullen hornet]

and why is it multiple timers per building

[spice gorge]

I was able to proceed into the build. The PC Steam Experimental branch patch that landed a few hrs ago seems to have fixed it. Are you on that branch?

[cloud epoch]

cus sean feeds on our tears obv

[sullen hornet]

make it one 6 hour timer instead of 3 2 hour timers

[hybrid pendant]

because buildings take 10 seconds to build

when u took nip nip

[chrome eagle]

i'm not, no, i'm on the main branch

[hybrid pendant]

witch is 90% of the comuntiy it looks like

fuck the logic

[spice gorge]

The main branch will get the update very soon, prob tomorrow.

[glass flare]

i mean... timers are trash. i don't like cheating in games, but i probably hate timers even more

[chrome eagle]

👍

[hybrid pendant]

its ok i dont care about them i do others shit while it goes on

[chrome eagle]

same here

[hybrid pendant]

because it looks like people only plays nms here

[cloud epoch]

i play everything but nms lol

[hybrid pendant]

and have nothing to do else in there life than wait 4 hours

[spice gorge]

I cheated the first time I made a living ship because of the length of time involved in the wait periods.

Second time, I just went with it.

(Two saves)

[glass flare]

hey zin, been a while

[cloud epoch]

oh hai solar

[compact coyote]

Just became an overseer!

[chrome eagle]

congrats, now bring your settlement to its knees!

i still think its hilarious that my settlement is "Built on Cursed Land... and Doesn't allow pets"

its like, yeah, we built our town on a graveyard... but our HOA is strict

[compact coyote]

Gosh these houses are so cool

[glass flare]

did anyone notice additional detail on ships? i've got these glowing lines on my ship I guess I haven't noticed before

[rotund perch]

Anything new with the space station cores?

[sullen hornet]

im 10 mil in debt but theres nothing i can do about it despite having 300mil units

[chrome eagle]

its all the student loans

[severe sun]

interesting, I'm now learning two words from some entities

not all of them

but some

[compact coyote]

I wish you can do things with the new Base parts, like move then or power them

[sullen hornet]

and my settlement magically became s class

[compact coyote]

Like the man lift. I wish I could move that manlift

[wind anchor]

So I'm trying to get to this "planet in distress" broadcast and it keeps saying "Mission target is in another system" and bounces back and forth between two systems

[brazen citrus]

I had to go to a diffrent system and restart the quest to get it to work

[gloomy isle]

Has anyone seen how big the settlements can get?

[cursive kernel]

I just wish I could put a base just inside the settlement

Like bro

Let me build for them

[compact coyote]

Same

[wind anchor]

How did you restart?

[brazen citrus]

on PC you open the quest log and hold the middle mouse button down

[gloomy isle]

My main complaint too!

[timid mist]

i think if you place a computer a ways away you can extend over to it

[compact coyote]

Yeah that bothers me

[timid mist]

@storm shell i forget if you're on PC so im tagging you, but there's a note in the most recent experimental about snapping issues with wall hangings and lights

[cloud epoch]

has anyone managed to find two settlements in the same system? maps just keep pointing me to my existing one in that system

[cursive kernel]

Yeah but thats a work around

It works, yes

But just let us do it normally

[timid mist]

i agree though it probably undermines the idea of building the structures via the overseers office

[cursive kernel]

I mean yeah

But

I want to to build a condo

[trim dune]

they want settlements to be different from normal base building

and i'm fine with that

[timid mist]

yeah its a nice separation minus the issues ive already repeated multiple times lmao

[storm shell]

Nice

[cloud epoch]

anyone seen these parts?

also still missing a ton of other buildables

[timid mist]

those might be old removed ones that are still in the log for some reason

they look like those solid pipe things

[cloud epoch]

i dont recall ever having t and x junctions tho

[icy citrus]

Quicksilver pieces?

[timid mist]

i dont either really

[icy citrus]

from tiers?

swear i saw those datamined

[cursive kernel]

Ah yes my favorite quicksilver item, pipes

[timid mist]

finally i can get pipe in nms 😌

[cloud epoch]

old ones here

[spice gorge]

Wait.

Can you not rotate base parts?

anymore

[cursive kernel]

You can

[spice gorge]

Is that a bug?

[cursive kernel]

I think

[spice gorge]

L1/L2 does not rotate them

tho onscreen menu says they should

All the base parts have a ! next to them, but I seem to be able to use them nonetheless.

[storm shell]

On y axis you can't ,which sucks badly

[cloud epoch]

free placement is nice tho, all builders need a no collisions check mode

[storm shell]

But the y axis

[cloud epoch]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

any way to not have nms not pause when alt-tabbed out?

[bold quail]

Am I missing something? Can you do anything in a settlement when you're not the Overseer? Every NPC I talk to has no choices to make, there's nothing to interact with in the settlement buildings...

[indigo smelt]

Are the building parts considered a spoiler? I need some build advice for a base I'm building.

[timid mist]

ask here to be safe anyways

[cloud epoch]

lol my redshirts didnt die this time

[timid mist]

i consider that a win

[storm shell]

Aren't people already posting them around?

[compact coyote]

Just got my first death threat as an overseer

[cloud epoch]

call ur gek overseer over to set them straight like what happened with the gardener

[indigo smelt]

I think I like the flow of this building, might need some adjustments still.

[cloud epoch]

welp back in 3 hours when my timer finishes i guess

[indigo smelt]

Solar panels on roofs, avoid?

[storm shell]

I haven't unlocked all the alloy ones sadly

[cloud epoch]

seems fine to me

[storm shell]

They kinda fit with the alloy korvax theme

[cloud epoch]

new parts have more pizzaz than their old versions

[storm shell]

I built 3 houses to test the material , gonna rebuild the alloy one later cause i haven't unlocked all the parts

[indigo smelt]

The new parts look way better. Go to a paradise world, get yourself a fast exocraft and hunt some modules. Its not that slow.