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Oh, I never got an Atlas Pass, thats why I didnt see any
Also together they add 3 more health, for a total of 9 (3 base, 3 from 3 S class shield upgrades, and 3 from those two)
I keep em installed
I take it the portals are atlas creations
The great Atlas interfaces in many forms, the great 3 is only one of them. As It is the creator of us all.
Why does it take a humanoid form
The forms in that image are a gek, a vy'keen, and a korvax. The species it created .
I mean
Wanna get real technical
The gek are not original ones
But I get what you mean
Yeah they're second spawn, infected by Korvax nanos. Still lol.
Ok, so does resetting here give you that recipe that lets you see black holes on the map?
wait, is that even an item?
what lets me see the black holes?
You're thinking of star seed, but I heard you get that ability even without the item installed, once you finish the quest. Haven't tested that
hm
when do you unlock the star seed?
also still haven't pressed the button to reset yet
Birth a star at the end of the mission.
sooo... resetting the simulation?
how do you birth a star?
Ask for another way.
Reset. Refusing doesn't reward it. Maybe the wikis not up to date
but I really don't remember getting it
I have it and I've only reset it.
i refused the atlas while doing the atlas seed missions and now i cant continue it :D
It's up to date since the Living Ship update
Unfortunately it says birth a star which apparently isn't an option
So no not up to date on terms.
I have to assume reset, yes.
Refuse is wrong. Asking for another way leads back to the other two choices again.
Has to be reset
I reset and got rememberance
@reef robin same I was stuck on it for close to a year before I just randomly hopped into a system containing a atlas station.
so i can still get the last thing from that mission?
@lavish marsh then I have to assume it was changed as to how you get it with the new update, and the wiki has yet to be corrected .
hm
@lavish marsh ah so it would seem either this last update or the one before made it so the seed is no longer needed as long as you finish the atlas path quest line. You automatically gain the ability to see black holes as white dots on the galaxy map. Supposedly.
Tried to help a Vy'keen with a security breach and got punched in the face because he thought I was questioning his competence.
Forgot how fragile their egos are sometimes.
Yeah it’s funny though
Found the robots again. Apparently, they can show up on glitch planets.
Also, they can appear on multiple planets in the same system.
I reset and got rememberance
@lavish marsh Remembrance you get from the end of the Artemis quest line, the Star Seed is obtained from the end of the Atlas Path by Birthing a New Star but the ability to see black holes on the galaxy map is given for completing the Atlas Path regardless of you birthing the star or not
If tou complete all the quest line.
Did we got ending game and jump to main menu.
Or did we get to freeroam??
@willow stirrup hey now that I did the path of the atlas and birthed the new star and finished the purge what’s left?
@tulip elk endless freeroam
^
@willow stirrup hey now that I did the path of the atlas and birthed the new star and finished the purge what’s left?
@runic kernel Exploration and whatever you want to do.
So the story is done?
It is, yes
Alright time to find a planet
Is there a dataminers group? Or do Updates drop so quick going through the files makes no sense ?
Is there somewhere that shows what they have planned for the future
Like not a list of features they are adding just like a vauge things we are thinking about list
and suffering rebuilding your equipment
I'm glad I finally found a use for all those repair kits I got from freighter farming
@reef robin yes.
I made it to the 2nd Atlas Interface, but all it says is "There is nothing else but the orb. We are alone in the universe. It fills my mind. I am consumed.", and it isn't giving me a blueprint. Did I forget something?
what are repair kits for anyway
Repair damaged tech, like on crashed ships
hey all, got a question - to be clear, I'm in this channel not because I necessarily want spoilers, but because I don't want the conversation to show spoilers for other people.
continue
so, I feel like I missed something somewhere. I don't skip dialog but maybe I went too far on one quest branch and it made me skip the start of another?...
Basically, I got the 'atlas interface' quest and just followed it to the first one, but I never saw anything about this.
nope
didnt skip anything
very normal
the atlas interface quest is the second of the two main quest lines
Comes along about 10 hours into the game id say
well, I'm 60 hours in but I don't usually rush the quests
i've had this quest for a LONG time but avoided it specifically because it never explained why I had it
Maybe there was a sentence or 2 about them.
"milestone pathfinder or above"...I guess this actually refers to one of those achievements?
yep
trust me, its a fun questline
a load of warping
and a load of answers about the game
it's making me check the wiki a bit because some of these answers seem like they could maybe be instant game overs
not likely, but i'm on permadeath...
I guess I should ask directly - are there any dialog options anywhere in the game that directly kill me?
I know some of them can deal 1HP damage.
@stark sorrel no, even the sentences that say crazy end of day stuff, do not necessarily do what they say. You'll never die from a dialouge interaction AFAIK
I think I almost died to one of the 1HP damage interactions, if that's possible...it was before I realized that this game had health in addition to shields.
luckily I was at 2, not 1
Interesting, I have a permadeath save and even when I mess up monolith puzzles I never just die lol.
it was one of the korvax interactions where they discharge excess power
Hmmm. I'll have to watch out.
@warm halo HG prefers not to really confirm or announce things until they're final, and that usually means until they're about to or have shipped
they don't want to make the same mistake again
i thought as much XD
The best you get is data mining
Like pets are definitely coming, base turrets and space bases probably are coming at some point. I think there was something else, but I forget
probably should spoiler that
We're in spoilers
ok fair
we are getting another update this year, i'm guessing its one for multiplayer content
given how they did say new ways to get quicksilver are coming
I'm 90% sure we get at least a medium-sized update on tuesday or thursday
They've had an internal update in testing for 3 days, which is way more than normal before release
So not just bug fixes
it's not gonna be medium sized either
if it is this early
i'd say expect something like the minor updates we've been getting this year
Oh, I consider those medium
Large being Origins
Something with content of some kind
I think maybe just a pets update. That would be enough to put things off for a couple months
Desolation was a bit bigger
i don't think we're JUST getting pets, but they're certainly happening at some point
if i remember, some of the Living Ship space NPC dialogue was in the game since before Beyond
i've been with the game for too long 
I don't like using that term though, more data perusing
honestly, i think a good format for them would be essentially what happened with year 4
i hope this is more akin to a Synthesis 2
agreed
like
Annual Update, Stability Update, then 3 smaller updates
rinse and repeat
that would work
i think we need one update every year just dedicated to community requested QOL updates and fixes
That would be very nice
even cooler if the 3 smaller updates are connected or are brought together in the following annual
I think it's going to be tied to lore some for sure
oh that'd be even better
im a lore nut
honestly going back to that format,i think that could do wonders for the story
Reading the text from all the Archives, seems to relate some to the recent missions and existing Abyss lore. I think they are trying to tie them together and hopefully advance the story a little bit past 16 minutes
kinda like how Magic used to handle their story
Yeah those were good
3 themed sets, then a core set
also i haven't read much of the archive lore, mainly because i haven't found too many even in my playtime
I cheated and read through the Languages file
i read ahead for the weekend missions
oh fuck you'll have to add me
i don't have my DM's open to randos, had some bad incidencts
Understandable. Feel free to remove me after. I won't be offended 🙂
You want the ones with LIBRARY in the middle of the name
There are a couple new interesting names in there, like Atlantid
And Dryn'dargh
Can you get all the portal glyphs from the story before it makes you leave euclid?
@granite coyote Yes. During the Artemis path you start getting a glyph each time you warp to a mew system once you get so far into the questline.
Alternatively you can find travelers on space stations that tell you where grave sites are on a planet in the system. Go to the grave and interact with it to recieve a glyph.
Awesome
@granite coyote It doesn’t make you leave Euclid, you can stay by choosing the imperfect galaxy, but it’s recommended to go somewhere else as being able to freely warp to other galaxies is useful
Lore question:
"It came to pass that the Great Monolith awoke, It heard the challenge of Hirk. Five times Hirk called upon it and was met by silence. On the sixth cry it awoke." --Memories of Nosurifro (Vy'keen Plaque)
I'm at the end of The Purge and it just made me do that exact same thing - cry out several times before getting it's response. Is that theme ever explored anywhere else, further connected somehow?
@granite coyote It doesn’t make you leave Euclid, you can stay by choosing the imperfect galaxy, but it’s recommended to go somewhere else as being able to freely warp to other galaxies is useful
@uncut harness you'd have to refuse to reset in order to stay in euclid. if the purge is completed in euclid, accept to reset, picking the white orb, would take the player to Hilbert dimension, the next norm (imperfect, improved, etc) galaxy in the list
i always refused to reset
how do you get heart of the sun?
From the files, looks like apart from the new tainted metal, ||4 base decorations, the helmet that has already been mentioned, 4 new decals, new banner, new title||.
@shy prairie the creator story with the exosuit ai from thise anomalies has a repeating theme of 6 cries. I think the atlas's maker cried out in his last moments .
@violet narwhal 2 new titles, The Doomed (Braved a derelict freighter) and Pillar of Light (Explored a derelict freigther)
My guess is Doomed is for checking all rooms, Pillar for checking all logs
I got only Doomed
Anyone got any ideas how these titles are unlocked? What are these "darkest of derelicts", precisely?
Ah
@violet narwhal do u have the patch noes?
not out yet
Nope, no idea why they haven't posted them yet.
well its in experimental soo
do we have the new base decoration ? or they are just in the files
@hard stirrup I think Doomed is for checking all the rooms
They don't post experimental changelogs for public releases, just the notes on the site... And no, just saw mentions of them, they may not be accessible yet.
I ran a derelict quickly and got that title
I checked all the loot containers, all the big terminals, few logs, attacked few sentries
But nothing out of the ordinary
Oh, and I collected most of the Living Slime
i wonder if we find everything
Im still convinced Tainted Metal and Basalt are connected
Gonna check some refining ideas
1x Tainted Metal == 2x Nanite Cluster in refiner
Derelicts became even better source of Nanites XD
Operation: DOOM CYCLING
BFG plays in the distance
soo that was the internal before the weekend hmmm
Does tainted metal come from derelicts now?
Yup
u ,remember?
what sean said
there u go
remember what sean said
we will introduce new ways to get quicksilver
the funny thing is, still far faster to get it from ice
they added it to the suitcase loot pool at about 15 QS a pop, the one I just ran for giggles netted me 45 total
I did a derelict freighter last night. The time and units spent wasn't really worth the payoff honestly
Cool experience though. Felt a bit like a horror game
oh dang, the scrap vendors sell decorations now though
well i guess they are worth now than using glitch
I wonder if that's a bug
but hey after people will say they have a shit ton of money
it's the same price in tainted metal as it is in QS from the anomaly
yes
has some minor stuff, like a tiny spooky patch for halloween
new head and new material (tainted metal) that refines 1:2 to nanites and I think can be used to buy stuff from the scrap vendor?
also QS can be found on derelicts now
Ok ok ok I got it
The Doomed title - give derelict items to scrap dealer
The Pillar of Light - give derelict items to envoy
That's it
Aaand game crashed
Before I saved
FUCK
Also, you have to give both items to the same entity
Meaning you can't give 1 to scrap dealer and 1 to envoy to get both titles
soo we gave found everything that the update have i guess
we shouldnt even call it an update
its a patch
yeah i didn't expect much tbh, i like the new helmet thing
i didnt even expected a patch
like ok its haloween but who cares u can focus on next futures update
I doubt it was too much effort, probably had it ready for a bit
they've shown they can work in parallel on multiple things at once and still produce really nice stuff so doesn't make me feel like it's taking away development time or something
well it was in internal since friday
Yah probably some testing.
Doesn't have to be on internal for them to test lol
id assume it's just steam integration testing or something
TBH i expected november for new stuff
The Doomed title - give derelict items to scrap dealer
The Pillar of Light - give derelict items to envoy
lol cool it's impossible for me to get either then
my quest is still bugged, I can't turn either of those in
i expect nov for like, smaller update with new content, but i did kind of expect a tiny thing before then
@raw pecan How come?
@hybrid pendant @timid mist Well, we got new stories in derelicts, that's for sure
Personally I've found 2 new ones: about || The Garden where defeated sentinels rise back to life || and about || a Gek captain that got convinced by a Korvax to ditch the flesh and embrace metallic form ||
ah didn't know that, that's pretty nice.
those are both old ones
Really?
yeah
ok nvm then haha
were you farming the same stuff repeatedly?
I've def. seen both of those multiple times
Nope, however I farmed a cluster of systems pretty close to each other
Not like totally random millions of LY apart
yeah if you were farming in the same system it will be the same i think
Not the same 1 system
distance shouldn't matter
maybe just weird odds or some are rarer
I think a development update before the end of the day
been a month since the last one
i think they might tell us the next update
They might hint at "more is coming" at the end like usual lol
i remember a the end of the year they always say there an update calling
we call it "something"
and its coming soon
i love that they added those things to derelict freighter its exactly the way i wanted them to update certain parts of the game
they arent really adding anymore
I don't see them announcing that soon, maybe next month
yah but like maybe end of nov or early december
not really any reason to believe otherwise lol, all just speculation
nah i say november we had update every two months
okay
Whats that 400mb update
and yeah it looks like they are not adding anymore but improving
what should we call it?
Desolation 1.5?
Idk
it add new stuff for derelict freighters
Is there any patch note
nope
yeah
but it sound like desolation 1.5
because the patch centers on derelict freighters
very small amounts on derelicts now
seems like it's only for a limited time though based on the patch notes
maybe a stand in while they work on other methods to add in

would be cool if they added a 'big daddy' bio horror to derelicts for halloween
I do like that they made them harder at least
Especially since they have been bugged to fall thru the floor for a bit lol
More to come this year, even
Wriggling Companion ❤️
Sounds like my ex
Oh, we can color them? Nice
That's...hideous...
I kinda love it 😛
spogger gang
🇸 🇵 🇴 🇬 🇬 🇪 🇷
wait stronger? I did some runs but they didn't feel any harder lol
about the only thing they changed was "everything in the nests don't bug out and clip through walls when they pop"
and the ice storms seem to be fixed
oh
Low temperatures are more extreme
I didn't notice because I use the S-class modules with a static timer, oops
eh
you can colorize most of it with the primary, the eye itself and the pink area around it stay the same
I can't tell what the "secondary color" option even affects
yeah it's pretty
unless you happen to have something color-wise that's matching it already
I'm 90% sure we get at least a medium-sized update on tuesday or thursday
@wind panther called it
soooooo where is the new alien head skin in the customizer menu?
You have to buy it first
You have to buy it, harder
Depends how many you've unlocked, I'm guessing
where the heck do i unlock more heads lmao.
Will probably be the last one
Quicksilver merchant
Most of the NPCs in the Anomaly have an unlockable head, as well as Gek, Korvax, and Vy'keen helmets
Most are for the Anomaly race, I believe, though I could be confusing it with Traveller
Unrelated to that: Apparently Tainted Metal refines to Nanites at a 1:2 ratio.
I tend to get them confused. I don't change my looks that often
it's unnecessarily confusing since they're both nearly identical in every respect, it's just that all the helmets go to anomaly and all the "masks" go to traveller
Yeah I was a little off. It was more small than medium and it was Monday London time.
@uncut harness you can colour the eye
random screenshot i took in a freighter hence the shit angle
@uncut harness it also glows, albeit very dimly
it's strange they buffed the tiny enemies on derelicts, but didn't add any bigger 'boss' type enemies
i woulda thought they'd do that if they did another update for derelicts.
missed opportunity, HG
I assume it was a matter of development time and energy
They just realised a massive update, after all
I know it's a Halloween update, and there's only 5 days left in the month, but it's no excuse when it could be better if it were in the oven a little longer.
almost feels like something's missing from them
and that is something larger and more dangerous.
they don't need "excuses" lol they develop at a certain pace and it not matching your expectations or desires doesn't mean it's suddenly something they need to explain
so i picked reset simulation on a baby blue galaxy ? did i fuck up?
is the halloween stuff a permanent thing? Or do we just have a limited time to get it?
I'll probably get on this weekend to get some of the stuff, then
lol the "creatures shooting stuff at you" is absolutely what they were supposed to be doing in the first place
So what do you do to get quicksilver on the derelicts, or is it just a random drop from the last console or something?
the previous derelict freighter update coulda used more time in the oven
was decent, but undercooked
and yeah, finding procedural dungeons on planets would be great and will probably happen, but hopefully they flesh out current dungeons before adding more.
interesting that the collection of quicksilver will only last a few weeks. wonder what they have planned after
oof, I'll def have to get on and buy the limited available stuff
@solid fulcrum it's a currency, you randomly get it from suitcases
The new metal stuff too?
yeah
How much quicksilver you earn for completing?
It's random. I only got like 15-20 QS per freighter
it's 15 per box that you find but yeah, I never found more than 3 of them a run
Oof, so much for getting a living ship from that
yeah if you're in a super hurry then stellar ice farming is still faster
anomaly missions are fine, until you run out of missions for the day
they're a possible random anomaly, if you find a system where they're the first thing to show up you can save/reset to get them consistently
have like a 10% chance of dropping 100 QS
effective in a pinch, boring as heck though
The pulse drive random encounters? I seem to only ever get the trader ones
Bruh. After doing starbirth, how do I get a different living ship?
get another void egg, pulse drive until you encounter another living ship, get coords to a crashed living ship
note: this time the ship doesn't seem to change on reloads (unless i was doing it wrong) and it requires 10k nanites to repair
Yeah that's what I was thinking but I was pulsing for like.. legit 30 minutes with nothing.
But I just got one
I like how I can only see it's appearance from behind, though.
i think you need to go to a different system to get a different model
I like how I can only see it's appearance from behind, though.
i don't think it's the same ship you see in the encounter, i believe the encounter just gives you coords to the fallen ship
^
i don't think it's the same ship you see in the encounter, i believe the encounter just gives you coords to the fallen ship
@sick cave oh! That might make things better
Where do I pickup the warp hypercore blueprint?
@prime inlet I'm thinking prime planets dropped the surface 1000u to give more space below the clouds for tall mountains. Maybe water worlds will put the surface up high and then give us oceans that are 1500u deep?
1500u deep oceans, now that id love to see
yeah, that would go in line with that we've seen, some have really tall mountains that are probably a few hundred u from the cloud layer, i think.
it would be pretty cool to have 1500u deep oceans
but there aren’t any?
200-250 most ive seen
Deepest I've seen was 102u. I'd even be happy with 200-250 if I could find one.
I'd actually relocate my 93 bio-dome farm which currently sits at a depth of 70u
sad tbh, we get massive mountains but shallow oceans remain
*big ponds
many possibilities for massive underwater fauna open up if they increased the depth limit
Saltwater ponds
is there a way to find , or just keep exploring ?
find ocean planets?
but didnt they add deeper oceans
I thought it said so in the patch notes
haven’t heard anyone say they’ve found one
where?
i mean, where does it say they increased maximum depth?
in 3.0 patch notes?
- A depth readout has been added to the player HUD when underwater.
i believe so
this is the only line that refers depth, there's a few others with water... that i could find at least
Fixed an issue that caused underwater props to appear overly bright.
yeah i guess not then
i mean, where does it say they increased maximum depth?
just says "deeper oceans"
not in the main patch notes but in the overview
not on my browser
yeah i tried keyword searching too, nothing
there was an ign interview I believe where he brought it up
hm so I mixed up the two then
said something like "4x higher mountains and deeper oceans"
but if that's true then we can take it with a grain of salt
its not in the patch notes then most likely its not in the game
i think they're deeper i just don't think they get as deep as mountains do tall
honestly without props that aren't tied directly to the sea floor it would be cool once and maybe annoying any other time lol, floating props would be cool (aside from fauna)
friggin journalists making us think something that isn’t true
ill see if i can find the interview at least
it wasn't the journalist though it was sean saying higher mountains and deeper oceans
ah
and yeah, i’d like floating stuff
up until Next, there was really nothing of interest on the water surface
No Man's Sky: Origins adds new worlds, new terrain, new weather, new creatures and more. We got the creator of the game, Sean Murray to explain it all.
then they added those underwater crystals and other assets that stick out of the water
here is where he mentions, at that timestamp
"multiple km tall mountains, chasms, deeper oceans"
oh cool. so i suppose they are possible
i've seen some deep ish ones but i don't dive too often so not much of a sample size
i think the deepest one i saw (out of maybe like 10 i checked) was around 100u deep
about right
underwater fauna is considerably less interesting and diverse than above water fauna anyway
perhaps travellers haven't seen <#nms-questions message> ? there's a new "waterworld" biome (?) type
having some of the new creatures underwater would work well i think, would be cool if they added some to that
is this new or is this something that someone just noticed now lol
cause we do have "waterworlds", not truly 100% water because you need a place to land
was it here before? i had never seen this in the biome probabilities table
the idea of it existed before, might have just been a recategorization of the existing waterworlds into a separate biome type? no idea
its a new folder under biomes
i don't do a diff of those between every update so unless someone has a record showing exactly when/if it was added idk
notice the weather type?
it's not implemented atm tho
yeah, that's what it seems
sure hope so!
if that’s true, It’s safe to assume they will add new underwater Fauna
I could see them implementing a new way to land, maybe a special type of landing post trading station that has poles that go into the water or floats above water or something
ejecto seato into nautilion obv
lol just lemme have my freighter poop out my sub
your ship carries the nautilon, but you get in and your friend flies your ship and just drops you into the ocean
You dataminers use Xedit to view your files?
notepad++
Works too.
for certain values of works lol
Do they give us storefront images on any new items?
i havent seen any mention of such
I mine other games, trying to learn nms. Hmm interesting
xaine usually has a vid up with all the mined stuff within a few days
nms is mostly just waiting for extraction tools to be updated each released
and then just run a diff against the previous extracted version
only big find in past year was the mech model quite a few months before that got released
Anyone have the master file after update they'd like to share lol
and living ship reveal was supposed to take place over 12 days but that got mined real fast lol
Yeah im sure. Seemed a large update
https://wiki.step-project.com/NMS:Tutorials/Getting_Started if u want to start poking at files
I'm pretty confident after some thought and looking at the files more, that waterworld biome is going to be super deep oceans
Thanks! I'll start downloading .
And I think it will be related to the Abyss in lore
imagine...underwater derelict freighters
Id actually be pretty ok with that or similar
abandoned full scale dungeon-likes underwater would be cool.
I kind of want dead space but in the ocean now.
Already have Subnautica but not quite scratching the itch
Underwater dungeons give me Water Temple flashbacks 😂
i'd love them to use all glass parts so you get bioshock vibes similar to the current underwater base parts
with HG focused on planetary diversity and variation now, other space games are going to have a much tougher time keeping up with them
Kinda spoilerish question
For those who looked into game files - is the new helmet thingy also a limited time thing?
I also think the next update might be underwater, proc-gen structure related. Even said it some time ago after I did some datamining myself #nms-spoilers message
For those who looked into game files - is the new helmet thingy also a limited time thing?
@uncut harness I think the only temporary thing is the quicksilver from derelicts, but I could be wrong
i think that's the case yeah, it's the only thing they specifically called out in the patch notes as being temporary
very deep water with really odd animals the deeper you go would be nice
There is now hope.
I feel like a lot of the next mini updates will be exploration based
Since Sean said origins was the beginning of something
So it's definitely a new focus on exploration
Are Boundary Failures guaranteed to be found on exotic planets?
What happens with that
Hexagonal counts as glitch, right?
ye
HELP
Do I upload Artemis to the sub simulation or end suffering?
I want him to live on
but I don't want him to be in pain
WHAT DO I DOOOOO
@nocturne zephyr what did you do and what happened because of it?
everyone has to make their own choice
i put them in the simulation
did they discover what happened to them or no?
i figured a limited existence was better than no existence
as far as I remember no, I never told them. it's been a while though
Honestly, it only affects a few bits of dialogue in the final stretch of the Artemis line.
You're not missing anything major either way.
do what feels right to you. that's more important than what quest dialogue you receive
I feel like the Traveler encounter wherein they don a mask that looks like you and make your character feel like they're about to die really has no "good" option.
Ha
So we had yet another Picard gif from Sean...
Is he doing is his update teasing thing again do you think?
Maybe something about captaining freighters properly?
Hm
Also saw an interesting suggestion.
The gifs are of Picard from Star Trek. Specifically: The Next Generation. Maybe it’s something about next gen consoles.
yeah almost everyone is speculating next gen update to support the consoles with better graphic fidelity or whatever
What do you guys think is about to happen?
If it's a content thing it will just be an announcement if anything, I can't see them dropping another update within like 2 days of another like that
Maybe it's an announcement for something to get hype built for next gen
Or just next gen
Yo next gen update
Yo
Finally 
YAY THE WATER HORIZON IS FIXED
water horizon?
The ocean floor was rendering in the distance, looking like little ugly islands. It's been fixed, so all islands you see should now be real.
ah damn, that bug was kind of useful for me when navigating in a storm
im so excited for whats next and also, YES ITS FIXED LETS GO
So with the new hardware it should eleminate popin right? Or reduce it heavily?
Doesn't it pulse
is that something that keeps happening? it getting bigger?
That picture hurts to look at
Hmm, so where does this put PC version anyway? Will it receive some of the graphical improvements at around the same time as the new consoles or are they already operating with some of these improvements, supposing their hardware is good enough?
the latter, I believe
this is bringing consoles on next gen up to PC levels it sounded like
Like I already know the multiplayer & flora density stuff since Origins may count here, but leaves one wondering
For instance, it sounds like the water horizon issue appears to be fixed in the trailer, but that's still a general issue atm across platforms so far as I'm aware
You're dense
Imagine if ship class affected the visible condition your ship was in.
Like C class, you have all chipped paint and rusted metal.
And S class is just a nickel plated McLaren with wings or somthng.
That would be dope
I would probably fly a C class wayyyyy more often for that aesthetic
I wouldn't tbh
Ok, so we make that B class then, and then C class can be the 240sx with 3 different colored body panels
C class is just 10 pixels
maybe next they'll improve actual water
Damn bois did it again
Hmm, so where does this put PC version anyway? Will it receive some of the graphical improvements at around the same time as the new consoles or are they already operating with some of these improvements, supposing their hardware is good enough?
@crisp fern it sounded to me that PC is getting the same additional improvements that next gen is getting. Detail levels and such that don’t currently exist on PC
@Gothalion All graphical enhancements are available for high end PC players 👍
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But it looks like you'd have to play on Ultra settings to see any difference
This is someone from IGN: https://twitter.com/Mark_Medina/status/1321455659297042432
@WavyBastard @NoMansSky Well, you’re playing in a prettier version of the old graphics. The PC will upgrade to the newer engine as well when this releases.
To be honest, I highly doubt this is a "new engine". They've already replaced the whole rendering pipeline with Vulkan when Beyond came out
Well they rewrote the pipeline when Pathfinder came out too. I imagine “new engine” is inaccurate as well, but the changes will encompass more than just higher resolution or more mushrooms
For sure, according to the patch notes everyone should benefit from various optimizations. That alone is a pretty significant thing
When does the patch release for PC?
november 10th, according to a news post on steam
Nice, thanks
Every time I think "huh, I could do with playing NMS again" there's a large patch coming in about 2 weeks, decided I wanted to play it again yesterday XD
And when the new patch comes out, then you might as well wait for the next one that will fix the bugs introduced by the previous one 😄
The No Man's Sky: Next Generation update will launch day-and-date with new consoles (that's November 10 for Xbox Series X/S and November 12 for PS5),
"Secondly, Next Generation marks a moment in time where No Man’s Sky can start to build towards a future which is less restricted and full of possibilities. This is just another stepping stone."
Aww yeah
They going to dump last gen consoles at some point
denser biomes, but still same ol' gameplay 
damn
i love that. 'less restricted' makes me excited.
i really hope actual forests will be possible
where are you seeing the less restricted comment?
i mean where is the quote from
not sure, might've been in the dev update?
hm, didn't see that in the patch notes or the news release..maybe an interview?
@rough copper where did you get that quote from?
I wonder if this is the end for previous gen consoles updates...will I need to switch to a new console to get new content now...🤔
Hope so...not quite ready to drop the cash on a new console but might to get the new NMS updates 😂
at some point they will probably cut current gen off from updates
my guess is if there's a big update next year, it will be next gen and PC only
might be optimized for current gen though depending on the content
really strange
i think it's the last update of the year though
an update after an update after an update
Hopefully this year has been a mix of things you wanted to see in the game and a few surprises along the way. But we are not done yet. There is one more surprise
one more = this update
probably going to take a long holiday
they deserve it really after all the work they put in this year with Origins + this
and last campfire
They'll be working pretty hard through November and part of December on bug fixes probably, with a medium update like this
hmm, hwo do we get the new head appearance?
Collect the new currency on derelicts
Buy it at the little shop on space stations
I think a few weeks?
swoosh
I know I'm late to the party, but WHY is this traveller ghost walking around in a base? 
is that a base
or is that
A CITY
are we getting cities?
cities confirmed

i think that's probably a QS thing we haven't unlocked yet maybe
@glass flare Steam news post
found it, thanks
Ikr!
In the trailer, is that flash at 00:48 a derelict freighter landing area? I don't think it is. If not, that's a space base.
This one? I think it's a derelict yeah
I'm about to go to a derelict now to check
looks like a derelict to me
better than spacebases: freighters with visible base decks. Portable base and you can make it look cool
having a holographic effect on ourselves seems weird but interesting
but makes sense
Or it might have just been an NPC they added for depth
Don't judge the poor NPC! Maybe not; we'll see I guess
My guess is that the Prime planets dropped the surface of the planet about 1000u to get increased room for high mountains and deep valleys. The waterworld will probably put land up really high and have super deep oceans, like 1000-2000u deep. That's my guess.
So like should I continue with atlas or the space anomaly
But like mole platypus be sick tho
That is so disturbing
It looks low rendered but I promise it's just smooth lol
Better for burrowing I guess 😛
So would I not get the atlas pass if I continue with the anomaly
Atlas pass is separate
do atlas path before Artemis story
Oof
Atlas Pass comes from the secure facilities
no biggie
You should be ok. I don't know if that bug is still around
Ok thank you lol
It looks low rendered but I promise it's just smooth lol
switch to a low texture setting, then switch back to high/ultra
it fixes the unloaded textures, temporarily
till it starts to give up again
So this is what i make of the Atlas:
The Atlas is basically an ultra-powerful machine that simulates the entire universe as well as other universes
However, for some reason the Atlas is starting to fail
What will happen if it does fail?
everyone disappears in a puff of corrupted memory and bluescreen
So are the sentinels made by the Atlas or something?
Were there other races besides the Vy'keen, Gek or Korvax?
Yes and at least one, theoretically, but all simulations seem to hew back to the same species and the same events
(which is, I suspect, the in-universe explanation for all of the galaxies having the same species and close enough to the same "history" as to result in the same major characters like nada/polo showing up again)
what does the FTR stand for
@valid magnet

|| Atlas is a powerful AI that simulates universes infinitely, as well as the life within it. While we can't be certain, evidence leads to believe it was created by 'us' (humans/anomalies). It started to suffer technical issues as all machines do, but being as powerful as it was, the issues suffered were reality bending in ( and possibly out of the simulation too as our suits AI is the atlas's creator forcibly brought into it) . Each reset seems to make more cross universal errors to increase (or possibly is fixing it?) || love what lore we have lol
@odd garden I agree with all of that except Telamon was the suit AI of the creator scientist while he was in avatar form, not the other way around, and not necessarily our own suit AI, though that's possible.
Seems Telamon has a bit more of the personality of the creator, which leads me to think Atlas had the ability to download him into the sim. This is all speculation of course haha. @wind panther
There's another section where it's said that he did indeed clone or imitate the creator in the Atlas with each of the Travellers, never quite getting it right, that it's trying to observe us and understand why it was abandoned, I believe? Going off memory
Then you have all the small issues mentioned like the Sentinels going crazy, the Hirk/Nal thing, Null (I think maybe the original creator), and the looming story of the Abyss as yet unresolved
Hey! I think Null is also what is left of one of the creators! Lol. The Abyss has to be the data corruption taking form in the universe.
I think it's water seeping into the real-world server facility, causing the corruption. That's why it's always associated with water
Thats actually a really cool thought. Also makes me want some out of sim lore info lol.
Telamon is a system protocol checking the integrity of Atlas system
And subsequently tethered to a suit AI
They have said as much, just another small step on their development path
Very likely at least a few more medium updates next year and one large update, maybe more than that
Pets, space bases (if they aren't in 3.1), a lore update to tie into the weekend missions, not sure beyond that
Nah, they are too small
why would you think they would add space bases? that's what freighters are
the only thing i would want is the ability to look out from my freighter into space
Turrets? I installed a few of those...fired them off, they went dead and then I could not get rid of the broken things....so I just logged out not saving so as not to wad my base. Everything was removable but the turrets...
Because they have added a couple of things to suggest spacebases would be a thing
They changed the maxradiusforbases variable to two variables: maxradiusforplanetbases and maxradiusforspacebases , and I already tested and it doesn't affect freighter bases
the only thing i would want is the ability to look out from my freighter into space
@glass flare Do you use JJ's Bridge mod?
i'm on PS4
You can have a friend build for you and use disablelimitations or BBB or GBase to build some windows or glass cuboids on your freighter for you
please no more base building for a while, let the devs focus on gameplay additions...
Base building is gameplay 😛 But I understand what you mean
Speaking of glass, I wonder what ever happened to Exo's glass mod.
It still works
It's still working? Must have been a conflict, I just assumed
Unlikely to be a conflict, considering what it edits, but I guess it's possible
I think it was updated in July maybe?
Well It worked at first origins update
I'll have to retest
I'm sorely missing a bug I used for great enjoyment
JJ's Bridge Mod combined with Exo's glass fix allowed me to fly out the windows of the bridge!
haha, I think I remember hearing that
Of course if you look back at your freighter will see the wire frame of your freighter base
Yeah, that's normal
So out the window and back in the window to restore
I have an outside base area on my freighter
I flew into the wire frame hanger by jet pack and jumped into my ship
flew off
went to planet, came back all good
With all the exocraft garages for jumping to planets from space
But I miss that so now gotta test again. Maybe JJ changed something too last update...it's been a while since I've tried it
Yeah, if that's what you're going off of, I can't say if that still works. I just know the glass transparency works
Sometimes bugs are your friend! 🪳
genuinely don't see much point to space bases personally, but 🤷♀️ their game
at this point it's clear their take on exploration, at least in the context of NMS, is very limited (which is weird to say)
I look at it as something that would be pretty easy to add, but would sound really cool. High cost:benefit ratio. They don't need to add any assets really, just make bases render above the planetary render limit out into space
i think Desolation showed that they are interested in more in-depth exploration encounters. i hope eventually that kind of stuff shows up on planets
@warm cloud nothing bad will happen
most of the story won't negatively affect you directly
I don’t know, I was just exploring and I decided to go to it and I’m not sure what to expect
I look at it as something that would be pretty easy to add, but would sound really cool. High cost:benefit ratio. They don't need to add any assets really, just make bases render above the planetary render limit out into space
@wind panther I doubt I need to tell you this, but uhh, they'd definitely need to add some undersides to a number of base parts for that to work as well as one might want, lol
just pop foundation pieces underneath it'll be fine im sure the legs can take the stress given there is no rotational force.
Well i started helping null now i got to find a gek system to learn there history like the other two races
The story in this game really works well
Story is amazing when you really dig into it. The data hubs on planets are really fun to hear a bit of their history or species knowledge.
I choose to go to the centre accidentally, what happens if I go to the centre of the galaxy. Do I have to go to a new galaxy now ?
@misty mortar If you fly into the center, you emerge in the next numbered galaxy, yes.
But I just want to complete the atlas path
please post a screenshot of your mission Log menu
Wow, hyper black holes are not a joke.
Just travelled 29,000 ly towards center (1.149m -> 1.120m)
I saw somewhere that if you find activate a portal and just enter the sunrise glyph for all of them, it will take you just a few jumps from the core of the galaxy you are in...
yeah, something like that, but that's a fairly boring way to traverse the galaxy
Well, i messed up some portal coordinates earlier and got sent to the outer edge. Figured i might as well traverse it anyway.
I’ve traversed a couple so ready for a quicker way😬
holy shit...i think i just discovered the new hyper blackhole record
241,000 LY from one black hole towards center (2.030 million LY distance travelled)
ok not the new high, but still an absurd distance (record is apparently 339,000 ly)
Yeah you have to be way out for one of those!
Yeah, well...i just went through another one.
306,000 LY toward center this time (1.025 million LY distance travelled)
Im documenting the coordinates at least. I think there was a group out there that was trying to track all the big jumps. Not sure if the wiki is remotely up to date though
U went from the west side of center to the north after a black hole
No idea what it said
I remember been 713000ly west then 701000ly north of center
Does the game record black distance travels
I listed my distances above.
it displays the distance travelled after you get to the new system
but distance travelled is a measurement like an arc around a circle
Yeah i missed that it went off as i saw it
It said milestone would game have that in logs
Or something
I only had one of four shields to repair
this is the furthest distance i travelled out of the 15 i found tonight. Its also the highest distance ive ever seen recorded
Woah
The black holes are loud
Is that the your about to hit warning
I was building some battle droid minis i never knew i hit it
Looked up saw this huge black wall and though well im fucked
wait, you ran into a black hole while fighting...sentinel drones?
No i jumped and didnt know
nice @rancid ether
241,000 LY from one black hole towards center (2.030 million LY distance travelled)
@rancid ether I have my freighter parked in front of a black hole that is on the extreme edge of the galaxy 700K+ LY out. It dumps out at a location just 15 LY from the center. Basically a 2 jumper. 😁
In that same string of stars 15 LY from the center there is one of those rare 2 black hole systems also...
Just got back from testing again...yep black hole still dumping out same location 15LY from core. Regarding the dual black hole system, is that a glitch? I've only ever heard from one other player that they found one. Keeping the location under my hat for now...
Are the galaxies all roughly the same size and shape as each other?
Pretty much
I mean, we're only guessing at what ours looks like 🤣
Just your basic spirals
That's boring, real galaxies vary massively
Well they are huge....you could never visit all the stars in even one galaxy
Even if you played your whole life...theoretically..
So yeah I guess no need for galaxies 150million LY across
It also is part of the lore that every galaxy is a simulation based on the Milky Way
Be funny if we found out the Milky Way looked nothing like they think
They've mapped and moddeled it's shape in quite a bit of detail
Yeah, it's a rhomboid
Sorry, I mean it's flat, like the hollow Earth
With Gek-people living in the center of the Earth/galaxy
A little known fact but the Milky Way is actually just the cheese drippings left over from the BIG PEP!
🤣
And it's turtles all the way down, below the pizza
lol
yo, whats the items for this weekends mission?
There are no weekend missions
oh did they get rid of those? bummer
It's on hold for now. Probably back on November 10th
needed the quick silver but uhh well.. guess ill just grind for the freighter stuff for the halloween event
You can get a little bit of QS from derelict freighter looting
yeah, and i get the stuff for the halloween stuff to, just the weekend mission normally has the best return ya know?
Yeah, for sure
@hollow glade The black holes I was testing were at the very edge of the galaxy, around 1.15 million ly from the center, Ill share the location if interested.
In my experience, the two BHs marked on the system indicates an atypical / hyper BH, not dual black holes.
i've seen 4 black hole markers for just one system
there's a few hyper black holes, all of them in the outer rim/closer to the fade afaik
Yup, was in the fade. Located about 15 so far in top left corner (alpha?)
heh.. I've been at this trading post for so long and not ONE exotic showed up
@open canyon
Normal NMS black holes will move you 6k-8k LY towards center, although "distance traveled" can wildly range from 80k - 1 million LY (because BH's travel in a spiral).
Hypers can travel direct to center at an absurdly high range of 20k - 350k (possibly more), and "distance travelled" that can exceed 2 million LY.
nice ty, do you only find out if its hyper after entry?
"distance travelled" would be the "bh warp tunnel distance from entry to exit system" basically; but the exit system is always 6-8k closer to the core (or in the case of hyper bh, 20-350k) than the entry system was. this "rule" excludes space encounter black holes.
from what i've seen, systems that have a hyper bh will have more 2 or more bh markers on them (like the save beacon marker)
yea, blackholes radial variation seems to be any amount but lateral transfer to core is relatively fixed
youve only found them near the rim?
i have only seen them close to the fade/the outer rim
The vast majority ive found have been on the outer rims as well (ive had a couple 12k "normals"). I have seen 2 star BH's in other places but cant confirm if they were also hypers
?
Ask and ye shall receive an answer, possibly correct
So if I go to the center will I lose everything?
you'll lose nothing whatsoever
It says universe reset in the story and I pressed keep exploring
that's just flavor text
^ No loss at all
Okie dokie
be prepared to repair stuff, like when you started, but other than that, nothing is actually lost.
@wind panther should I do the atlas path before hand or is it not worth it at this point
I'm in a save right before the center mission and when I chose just explore they disappeared
It apparently doesn't matter anymore
Ok I also don't have a atlas pass but I dont think its involved with this?
No, that's a separate thing. you get that from manufacturing facilities and it isn't part of the storyline
Ok thank you
Atlas ask your question no not that one hahahaha
Ok i got to warn everyone just everything damaged
Is this the end mission
Time for the purge i guess
I’m super confused about living ships. If anyone is on atm...
@dreamy dust what aspect
So neither one of the eggs will trigger anything. I’ve pulsed around with each of them in inventory but nothing will trigger so I can get the second ship. Am I doing something wrong or is it being buggy?
have you finished ||starbirth||
Yes I already have my first
then just take an egg and pulse in space
The item that helps find anomalies will help
Hmm does it matter which egg I use since they are different?|| I have the cracking and the active void eggs ||
Oh well that would be why nothing is working lol. Oh to be new. Sorry
this is it boys, i just finished main quest. it took me into the eissentam galaxy
continue
Lucky u
If i do purge will the other main story missions be left for me to finnish
Yes, though I would recommend doing the Atlas Path before you finish that one
That happens
Do i just find another
Speak with that one, then probably yes
Its not there no way to
Go up where it would be. There's a terminal
There isnt
Theres a longer path
And a mist
Gonna reload maybe i got a glitch again
I cant even click atlas stations on galaxy map
Can my milestone rank stop me from doing this mission
Yes, you need to be at galileo to finish the Atlas path
Oh its atlas seeds and heart of the sun i need
Eissentam?
"improved" is another name for norm galaxies, so not eissentam
@prime inlet ever had a "favorite galaxy"?
thinking of heading to a new one and you seem like a good person to ask
that's easy: Calypso is definitely the one i've spent more time on
i tend to stick to harsh galaxies, currently on ogtialabi
that sounds like a rough one
#15 on the list
ive heard that calypso is one of the worst of them all though
i believe im on #7, but i forget the name
i warped there last night and went to bed lol
empty will have a lot of dead and weird biomes, see <#nms-questions message>
speaking of dead biome.. bumped into an abandoned building and a plaque on one yesterday
was under the impression the only building they could have was a portal.
Will the new nms update work on current gen Xbox one and ps4?
Parts of it will, but a lot of the graphics improvements won't.
well you'll get the optimizations but not the lusher planets and better load times
Without giving too much away can anyone explain to me what New Beginnings is?
its nothing, you've done the story
its their complicated way of letting you turn off notification prompts
Oh okay, I saw something about restarting the simulation and choosing different biomes
that's in The Purge
Is that what it sounds like? I picture you restarting the game in your chosen biome type?
was under the impression the only building they could have was a portal.
@prime inlet for dead planets that changed with Origins
not really a restart, you just go to a new galaxy with a different set of biome probabilities
Are these different than the default biomes
So during the second ||portal jump|| during the Artemis storyline, ||I got teleported briefly into space with no ship. If I hadn't had fat stacks of oxygen on my person, I would have died before it teleported me automatically on again to the ATLAS.|| Is that normal? Or was it a glitch? It certainly didn't do that the last time I went thru the story......
yes that is normal
"normal", although I did the same "panic and cram my life support" thing-- I've heard that if you're on permadeath and you don't do that you just plain die lol



