#nms-spoilers
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Has Sean ever given the story of why 16 was picked as the countdown?
He probably just pulled the number 16 out of the ether. Devs often do that. Maybe it's his birthday or something. Or some other contrived thing.
Like, Douglas Adams picked 42 as the answer to life, the universe and everything simply because he thought the number "sounded funny".
But fans have always wondered about some deep spiritual meaning.
@tight siren Also, 16 is a binary-based number and:
"The number of planets in a galaxy (18,446,744,073,709,551,616) is equal to 16^16."
Probably where he got it from. (2x2x2x2)
I was expecting something much more along the Douglas Adams line.
16 is my birthday so we have to assume Sean Murray did it for me.
Of course, that makes perfect sense
He and I understand eachother
You should sue for royalties though. This is clearly an infringement on your sovereignty as a person.
No I would never do that to Sean.
There is a secret endgame mission where it reveals that all along I was in charge of the universe.
i understand the lore to a certain extent but is there any explanation offered for the lack of capital worlds?
Wish we could get this big knowledge stone
@tight siren Because Atlas has 16 minutes to die. But idk if Sean picked it randomly or not. š¤
I crave to get more buildings variation
get vyken, gek or korvax outpost
not only sentinels type
Problem is that NPCs don“t attack you.
You even can“t attack them with multitool
And even if you do, they aren“t hit.
they could add later dungeons on foot, which could be a big nest for biological horror of the size of the new buildings
That“s one thing which I am missing.
Also consenquences for having bad relations with factions.
Like them randomly attacking you on foot/in space, refusing to offer you their services, etc.
@strong bluff Not even for attacking, the outpost where there is already an NPC
Yep.
And it“s BS especially with Vykeen.
In lore they are at war with Sentinels.
Yet they have buildings guarded by them. š¤¦āāļø
Or maybe they are corrupt š¤
I doubt about it- you can encounter corrupt sentinels when you are breaking salvages on planets which have them.
They are drones which start shooting at you, you can destroy them and it doesn“t increase your wanted level.
could be fun to have a korvax outpost in a Gek system, saying they can't get away from the planet and try to hide from the geks
Faction battles.
oh yea
One promised feature (in space though) which wasn“t yet implemented.
That would be nice though.
Factions dont mean a lot
Or expand mission system - by doing missions for one faction, other faction might not like that.
Or I like how in another game, The Elder SCrolls 2 Daggerfall it worked - you might start one quest for an faction.
Later another faction would contact you and ask you to do something for them instead.
Recently we got the mission to discover an entire system for the exploration guild
And by your choice you could influence result of the quest.
could be fun to get more missions like this that would affect your grade on the guild
In fact, you can attack space station and when it sends sentinel fleet on you, you can still land in it.
Interesting is that you can“t land on freighter if you attack it.
Like for the Mercenary guild, you have to destroy specific sentinel outpost on each system, ...
I hope they revamp all that
Maybe add the possibility to create our own guild, managing roles and permission for each member, claim a planet as the property of the guild, ...
There were already player factions on official website, forgot its name.
And we already can sort of do it with Freighter fleets.
But it would be nice.
Also conquering uncharted Star systems.
It's not something added in the game, it's just done by players
Either for us or for an faction.
we'll see if they do it, either way can't wait for next update
Same. Though it will probably take some time.
Before they will release something bigger.
Hey all, Iām at 2/16 for Artemis, if I reset and go to Eissentam will it prevent me from doing the Atlas quest?
I think nope, but some people said that it might break the questline. š¤
Funny is I got opposite - I finished Atlas path before ending Artemis storyline and in next Galaxy I got Atlas path quests again.
Does anything think that the part where ||you try to meet Apollo and you can't see each other despite being in the same place|| is HG poking fun at themselves about when the game first tested and it wasn't actually multiplayer and people were trying to find one another?
Could be
that was wild back then though
Sean never expected two people to find each other
but yeah HG dug their own graves on that promise there
but im happy that they continued to improve so its all good
Question: If I ||choose to reset at the end of the questline|| do I get the "Center" achievements?
is there any in game explanation about why the sentinels are so butthurt about the gravitino balls?
so the atlas is indeed dying from some water splashing into its mainframe? :V
Someone spited the cofee on the atlas terminal table 
Another reference to water being the antagonist of Atlas?
@uncut harness not water rather abyss
oh, Travelers can show up in random buildings on the surface too.. for some reason I thought they were just in stations??
So, how the heck do I get warp cores for my freighter hyperjump tech?
you get the blueprint from manufacture facilities
use the green chart from the cartographer to locate them. sometimes you get resource depot but it's free resources anyway
Thanks! i'll look around
oka y so itried theportal glyph thing and i cant put all of them in it stosp at the bird so
what am i suppose to do
or no i meant fish teh fish
@limpid charm reloads save
Tbh though I wish we had a unstuck command really annoying when stuck happens
yea i did lost 10 min worth of reconfiguring base tho
I had the exact same issue as well lol
Try not to remove a piece of the same room you are standing in , I got stuck that way too
is there anything to find underwater? The submarine is really cool but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of use for it.
Also how deep do the oceans go? I've been down to roughly 60 units, but haven't explored many worlds oceans
sunken ship, structures, just like in surface
Finding crashed ships and such underwater is a huge plus when exploring underwater
i found 2 exotic back to back once. wish i had saved the coords.
when i jumped to the 2nd galaxy, i ended up just 3000 LJ from the center, is that normal ?
is it possible to go back to euclid and back to eissentam cuz i wanna know before i go back to euclid
you can always use the teleporter to previous stations or homes
oh bet
does it go the other way too?
like can i use a teleporter on euclid to go to eissentam
sunken ship, structures, just like in surface
@rancid lance Cool, I just look around and never seem to see anything
Finding crashed ships and such underwater is a huge plus when exploring underwater
@empty kiln Also pretty cool, forgot about those
you can use nautilon scanner to locate them
@severe chasm Yes you can. As long as you have a permanent teleporter location in either galaxy (eg. a base), you can travel between galaxies
@severe chasm Yes you can. As long as you have a permanent teleporter location in either galaxy (eg. a base), you can travel between galaxies
@uncut harness I still haven't got that, thanks for letting me know
I'm at the end of the purge. And im not sure what to do. Reset or refuse
basically, none of the choices are game defining. if you choose to reset, you will be given 4 choices, 1 for each galaxy type (norm, empty, lush and harsh), and you will reset the sim into one of those. no progress is lost, at all (this used to be the fastest way to reach, for example, Eissentam). if you refuse, it doesn't really matter either, it's very easy to switch galaxies these days, so even if you did want to do so later, you could still do it.
OK thank you very much
"no progress is lost, at all"
does the space anomaly mission ever complete? or will this be stuck forever?
two primary quests will have a permanent entry
space anomaly, and artemis path (new beginnings)
like can i use a teleporter on euclid to go to eissentam
@severe chasm ye
you can
but only if you have unlocked eissentam
and been there and like went to a space station/made a base
otherwise you cant
I should finish the Atlas Path before Artemis, right?
Also, I feel like a moron for only recently realizing that ||those little orbs in the Atlas stations teach you its language||.
@pallid stump the perfect timing to complete the atlas path is right after you've started The Purge mssion from the Artemis path.
The purge requires 16 warps to any system
and there's 10 atlas stations
the purge can be progressed even when it's not the active mission
Eh, I finished the Atlas questline, crafted the star seed, am now in Eissentam, but the quest from Atlas is still there, found a new Atlas station and now I have to interact with those 9 Atlas stations again to birth a new star?
ok
these quests can only be completed once per save
not sure why it's still in my log then
hints for more updates :0
How much of the nms universe h been explored to date?
Thereās a joke to be made here.
But I wonāt make it lol. As probably understood this character wrong xD
Well, out of over 18 quintillion planets, iād say a extremely tiny amount has been explored so far.
You can really mostly see the explored planets at a galaxy core since most players hang there
And also in euclid
plus theres hundreds of galaxies
@drowsy current essentially, 0%
@pallid stump I made the same mistake on one playthrough. I stepped through to orbs on the main platform and learnt words, stepped through a few on the floor and didn't. As it turned out the default planet is the system was a dead world so running around was burning oxygen, so Igave up touching more orbs as a futile endevor and never bothered again, thinking like yourself that they were just decorative
@tired vale Im pretty sure that the true address space isn't a full 64bit
Guys, I've already finished the game once,|| I didn't reset the universe , but then Polo, Nada, everyone got sad knowing that one day the universe will die.|| And now that I've made a new save I want to know: ||What's better? Restarting the Universe or not? And which are the differences?||
I donāt think it matters tbh
I mean
gameplay wise, it doesn't really matter.
the only difference is that if you chose to reset, you'd get a chance at taking 1 shortcut, out of 4 possible ones, to travel to other galaxies (and in the lore, to reset the simulation into one of the 4 existing galaxy types)
that hasn't been a disadvantage for a while now
So it would just teleport me into a new Galaxy?
Could I visit the last one I was?
Like
I finished the game in Euclid
I choose to reset
ever since you can simply join someone in another galaxy, make a base there, go back to your game, and teleport to the new base, and being able to come back to any galaxy you have a base on.
I go to Eissetam
but yes
Can I go back to Euclid?
Whoo boy. Questions:
I just heard I have to be in Euclid to get a living ship. Is it still possible to do this after The Purge by using portal in anomaly to get back to a base I have in Euclid?
all you needed to make sure was that you still had a base in euclid, reset to whatever galaxy, make a base there, save, and use a teleporter to go back to euclid base.
Ohhh ok
So this time I will reset
Because everyone got depressed when I didn't reset
And I already got the Title for not reseting
Ok, what bk just said confirms I can get back to Euclid simply enough. The question that remains then is, are things that have to be done in Euclid (like living ship) locked out by completing the Purge reset?
Which is ||Timeless|| if I remember corretly
big difference between reseting or core warping, and joining someone's game/teleporting: resetting/core warping will damage anything installed in the general/main inventories of your gear, except your freighter.
ok
Just need to repair though, right? Like at the very beginning with your damaged ship?
@uncut harness no, you can finish the purge before even starting starbirth; there's a single part in starbirth that requires the player to be in euclid (the portal phase), everything else can be done in any galaxy, and then you'd just teleport back to euclid to portal to the right euclid system.
and yes, only thing required would be to repair your mods and techs that were damaged
there's a few ways to mitigate that
like equipping both a trash multitool, and a (perhaps) trash ship
after spawning in the new galaxy, simply switch to your good MT, and summon your good ship, and fly away.
you can also ofc fix your things without having to rush, in the safety of your ship.
exosuit is harder to mitigate
because tech slots aren't enough for everything
what i do is i move my critical systems to the exosuit tech tab
like life support
@prime inlet tyvm!
@uncut harness do you wish me to clarify on the trash mt, trash ship part?
they must be playing the game on release. HA! zing http://puu.sh/GzpuL/9b341e32df.jpg
lol
My game just got weirdly broken. Graphics totally broke
So, what kind of relics do we actually hand into the big secure archive buildings? I still havenāt figured that out.
The seem to accept the usual things you dig out the ground :- bones, ancient manuscripts. the artifacts you find in ancient ruins
Ahh I see. I wondered that bud just kept selling them š¬
https://imgur.com/a/yMOJT7X bugs like these are making the water quest really difficult
@prime inlet yup
ps4, right
It's happened three times now. Yea ps4
is your ps4 physically ok, i mean, that looks terrible, nasty graphics corruption, not even sure if there's any software troubleshooting we could do, like rebuilding ps4 database from recovery menu, or reinstalling the game; is that on a recent save? i've heard of at least one report for an older save in which the game didn't even fully load
Seems fine for other games
And it's a new save, but I do have save data from 2016 as well so /shrug
The install is new though
Also, it manifests itself as a stutter, I take some damage out in open water, and then my face turns inside out or whatever texturing nonsense happens
I had that glitch on pc too
@hybrid pendant see above, that was what I was seeing when we played together
The nest is a weird planet
Uh, can planets be basically grey scale?
Google says yes. I call shenanigans on a paradise planet being black & white only, even if it is 'infested paradise'
@tepid iris i had that before
I just made it to the purge
So I found this in the NMS App and I didn't see it in the Anomaly. Is this an old reward?
https://www.nmsdepot.com/Chromatic-Starship-Trail/
Nah it'll come after the flora thing @vocal flame
Doing a derelict freighter. The little swarm dudes... Are they supposed to attack me? Because right now they scuttle about and then phase out =\
They've done the same for me like 10 times
I think that's what they do but I'd like to know what happens if you get close to the nest and then destroy it
I'm starting to think I'm the only one who's actually gotten attacked by them lol.
If you use a black hole, do you always land in the middle of a fight or is it just me?
I know this is sort of reviving an old conversation but regarding the black box texture glitches from https://discordapp.com/channels/146101654981312513/345378190568587275/762358374078742529
I (PC Steam) have been getting flashes of stuff like that since orgins. Mostly its been triggered by opening the quick menu, and looking away or closing the menu seems to fix it. I've gotten it underwater, on foot, and in space.
i don't know if these were already in the game and I never saw them, but at first I thought they were plants so it was quite a shock to see it fly
Are there big tentacle monsters that look like sarlaacs?
whoa those are pretty!!
If you warp too fast doing the purge, how do you get the glyph you missed? Does it just make you do an extra warp? Figured it out (answer is yes).
not bad looking! so glad its done
i just got the shit scared out of me, decided to do the submarine quests in vr because all the underwater stuff is pretty chill. I found a strange plant id never seen before with glowing globes hanging off stalks and I started pulling at em.
So I reached this ending.. But is this really the ending ? And why do I have a feeling I need to reach this 'ending' a total of 16 times for something else to happen ?
i've never seen that atlas. is that what it looks like.
@slender idol This is not the Atlas
its always the atlas. its all about us, and the atlas. and the boundary failures.
Its.. -kzzzkt- ..16
i found a gek archive tonight and chose "Gek"... some weirdass lore about a singing lake that the Korvax called "Atlas-End" and refused to go near it, and the Gek ignored them and said it saved them and they were going to send the sound to other planets
i chose ||syntheti-gek|| and got denied lol
@drowsy current @prime inlet Had the same issue yesterday during a storm on Harsh Blue Globe planet
The screen went black, all I could see was the UI
Inventory and pause menu, HUD elements were all visible
But anything rendered in game was black
Do portal codes work cross galaxy?
@worn cape Portal codes do not work between galaxies
You can't use a portal code for <galaxy A> to get to <galaxy A> from <galaxy B>
To use a portal code leading to a system in <galaxy A> you need to be in <galaxy A> in the first place
So what are planetary archives exactly
Okay.. Is finishing the first galaxy the true ending or no ? I have the feeling its not..
Okay, I got myself up to 120k with cobalt and will go on. Is there any other material I could deal with in that "price region"?
Ok so I want to reset the simulation but I already said no, how do I get back?
you don't
if you already refused
unless you have a save you can reload to, that's it
no more chances
that storyline can only be completed once (per save, ofc)
just get yourself a uber to the galaxy you want
make a base there, go back to your game
and the new base in the new galaxy will show up in the teleporter
I dont understand how the game can like, tell you that its open if you change your mind and still doesnt let you use it then
post a screenshot of your mission Log menu
I dont have access rn
if New Beginnings is one of your primary missions, that's it
Oh wait
It says
I need to go to the centre
Then charge to 100 %
I read that wrong oops
I was confused at the wikis wordings
I cant figure out planetary archives to save my life lol
Whats that?
Im intrigued but ive probably heard about it and brushed it off or dont know the name
@fathom vessel Planetary Archives are the new big structures introduced with the Origins update
Structure with some features of a space station but planetside
Multiple landing pads for ships for trading with aliens, guild envoy, trade terminal
The new features are lore bits and artifact vaults, which you can donate artifacts and bones for... I dont even know what exactly
https://imgur.com/a/yMOJT7X bugs like these are making the water quest really difficult
@drowsy current I had exactly this issue on PC the other day. I was able to make it back to my ship using the Visor to view outlines, and then auto-save. When I reloaded from auto-save it was fine. So, I don't think it's a hardware issue, it's a rendering bug in-game.
Or should I say; it's a bug in the simulation. Deteriorating as it begins to shut down....
kzzzt... 16..
@drowsy current I had exactly this issue on PC the other day. I was able to make it back to my ship using the Visor to view outlines, and then auto-save. When I reloaded from auto-save it was fine. So, I don't think it's a hardware issue, it's a rendering bug in-game.
@bitter remnant At least it's not my graphics card dying hahahah
It would be kinda cool (but probably create tonnes of bug reports) if they did actually implement visual glitches into the game as part of the lore.
If you free roam in the Galactic Map... Can you actually go to the center ?
If you free roam in the Galactic Map... Can you actually go to the center ?
@scenic pulsar no
@scenic pulsar please see https://discordapp.com/channels/146101654981312513/471868642204712971/674236737098219526
I already reached it
I was just wondering if I can see it with the free roam camera
That same bug happens to me too except reloading doesnt fix it
Been like that for months now so no underwater bases for me
What happens to the ||initial planet you end up on after stepping through the portal|| during Artemis Path?
It ||changes to a totally different biome when you return from encountering the Atlas interface. Same exact planet name, totally different biome||.
i'll check it out on my next PT
Yeah. I can share some screens i took the other day wheen i get home
So it seems that now with the Origins update, there's no point traveling to the centre with your ship. Since the portal restrictions are lifted all you need is an address to a planet close to the center of the galaxy and that address will work for every galaxy (ie spawning you at an equivalent distance to the center for the current galaxy) š¤
well.. yes.
there's no point unless the player makes it their point
even with portal interference, the player could simply join someone's game that had a base near a galactic core, in any galaxy, and make a base there, being able to teleport to it once back in "single player".
or use the anomaly warp calibration exit method.
the journey is more important than the destination :V
and fwiw, core to core jumping is still faster than portaling to an address near a core+warping a core
@bitter remnant Ive seen that glitch happen alot with the visor while scanning
Its not common but not rare either :/
Where do I file bugs again?
i chose to reset the atlas (idk if it was a choice but i did anyway) and when it came to choosing a galaxy to reset i didnāt think about and went to the red one bc i like red š is that gonna affect me in any negative ways ?
just make a base there
i have two bases, both of which idk the galaxy to
and teleport at will back to wherever you came from - hopefully you left at least one base behind, or the space station teleporter still has locations in the previous galaxy
to know which galaxy you're in, simply open the galaxy map, top left
@bitter remnant oh hey, i had this visual issue too. Be sure to report it to HG if you haven't already: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
Have boundary failures been expanded too?
@indigo smelt how do you mean? I've read some new entries were added (according to Procedural Traveler over on Twitter), but haven't verified yet
More boundary failure worlds, or variety of each type?
Oh, mm, not that I'm aware of, but I've been busy lately so others may have found some.
At most I've seen like swamp worlds, volcanic worlds, frozen dead, hybrid~infested worlds reported by others, each of which I've encountered at least one version of, but haven't noticed Boundary Failures appearing on any of them (and I don't imagine they're meant to, as they're more an expansion of existing world types or new world types altogether).
The archive megastructures I think are found via the commercial charts you can pick up in stations. Personally I've just flown about and found them that way, but that's been a mix of luck, & patience on my part
Can't I use the exocraft finder thingy?
Signal booster, and...Maybe? I forget if any of'em have an option that might pick up on that type of structure
Typically their scan options are more hyperspecific tho
E.g. depots, abandoned buildings, etc.
I got tau on the Nomad, should help significantly.
I can search for: Depots, Drop Pods, Abandoned Structures, Ruins and alien buildings, now it's the matter of which category it is.
none of those, i'm pretty sure, unless ruins & alien buildings are separate
Ruins and aliens are seperate.
Interesting. I found an archive building. Is lore Procgen?
If not, one log just confirmed a theory I had.
its not
Yes!
I just realized what these buildings are. These buildings house our tech experts, our overseer, our researcher, our warrior.
Found my first binary!
whats the point of binaries and triple stars if the galactic map just shows singles? and is that a emril or cadmium system you are in right now then?
Nope. Completely normal star system.
Did have an Atlas station in it though, if that's anything.
If anything I've seen those systems have more interesting skybox colours
it would be nice if there was a vague association between skybox colors, the star's in game color, and the assigned spectral class.
I mean, im not expecting some kind of ED level galaxy sim. But it would be nice to go to red star systems, and actually feel like you are in the presence of a red supergiant. Otherwise wtf is the point of assigning stars spectral class classifications at all
how can I unlock remebrance
Finish the purge quest from finding artemis storyline
is there any point to blackholes now that portal interference is gone?
How many galaxys are currently existing?
256, although 256th has to be reached either joining someone that has a base there, or via save editing
I mean gameplay wise, or its just for fun now?
@little otter "there's no point unless the player makes it their point"
gameplay wise, if saving time is all that matters, then yes, "it's just for fun now"
It would be interesting if there was intergalactic wars
Id rather not have random pieces of my ship destroyed lol
or I guess can use a junk ship?
simply don't use a ship that has techs or upgrade mods installed in the general inventory
yea
is the next update cities in nms?
I was hoping more updates on freighter/space battles
If we could use the freighter to fight another freighter
personally, i could care less about combat in this game
Yeah its shit
it's not what i'm here for; but we have no clue (yet) on what's next
piloting freighters wouldn't be as much fun, imo
Its also a base refinery med bay and warp ship
they should be really slow
but dont people have bases for that
and warp is better with explorer ship iirc?
so no point warping with freighter lol
I use my freighter just for storage, its ok
It saves me time and warp juice if i am using fighter
Also dont forget the expedions it gives
freighters can warp almost double the distance than a fully maxed out hyperdrive build explorer can, atm
6.7k LY afaik
how do I get my freighter to do that?
Upgrades
good base hyperdrive range, hyperdrive techs and freighter hyperdrive upgrade mods
How do i find salvaged freighter modules?
derelict freighters is one of the drop locations, the others are nexus missions, crashed freighters, and freighter cargo pods
sounds long to upgrade :/
How much will it hurt my friendship if i destroy one cargo pot with SFM
want big warp range, got to put in the time
@steady osprey black holes take you further than any warp, typically towards center, but the fastest way now is to plug in some glyphs from the internet.
Story is going to center
attacking big freighters does not inflict standing loss, @still siren
What about small and medium ones?
all of these questions can be asked in #nms-questions btw
don't attack frigates, or floating cargo pods
everything else you can attack without loosing faction standing
@steady osprey black holes take you further than any warp
not by much now
dam
But wont every ship turn hostile?
how do u get glyphs quickly btw
but bh require no investment at all.
Freighter maxes at 6kish, ships at 3kish and black holes take me +10kly
I quickly found 6 glyphs by finding settlements with travellers inside the most i found was 3 in a system
Twice the max is pretty damn quick, especially since repairs are (typically) so easy
They also spawn on station @steady osprey
never went through a bh warp in which the exit point was more than 8k closer to the core than the entry point, but
they don't go in a straight line to the core
uh.. yes, i know.
like 25k in a mostly coreward direction š¤£
I'm... losing you there
Why does a chair cost 1 star silk to build its annoying
a bh warp tunnel is in fact a straight line across the galaxy, from its entry point to its exit point
only advantage to ships and freighters is you can pick the (closer) destination and direction yourself
same page, different languages?
not you, bk
You are talking about multi language dictionary right?
oh, i wasn't trying to make any real point, just saying, that even if black holes don't send you to a direction you can choose, but send you in straight lines; ships on the other hand, can't travel in a straight line, because they follow the "hyperlanes", but allow you to choose where you go, at the expense of fuel.
that's kinda interesting to me
uhoh
Literal plant life in dead planet
Must be nice
To fill the soul canister
is that a dead planet or an exotic?
i just finished the base scientist questline, jesus that was sad
poor guy is stuck in an endless loop of isolation and misery
Total speculation, but what are the chances the next NMS update will be called "Abyss Rises" and focus on underwater improvements? š¤
There was already a major update dedicated to underwater improvements 2 years ago.
I know but it doesn't rule out more updates of similar theme
Don't know if I should post here or in help but what Galaxy should I choose at the end of the purge if I want to mainly explore to see crazy planets
honestly a cave update isn't out of the question
Cave update would be kind of cool
I think there's a good chance they will be introducing some form of proc gen settlements given they hired that guy who specializes in procedurally generated cities
Maybe procedurally generated underwater cities? š¤
Why underwater?
Because of all this talk about Abyss and water in the Community Missions
Don't know if I should post here or in help but what Galaxy should I choose at the end of the purge if I want to mainly explore to see crazy planets
@charred palm red orb, harsh galaxy
@prime inlet gotcha
I just returned to the Scientist with his core, replaced the core but nothing happens. How do I finish that quest?
@tough thistle afaik, there's a cooldown before the quest continues, after reinserting the core back in
So, I've done the artemis quest at least four times that I recall, and no matter whether I choose to tell him about the sim or not, at some point the storyline treats me as if I've told him about the simulation. Is this a known bug?
@prime inlet there was, thanks. The cooldown doesn't show up in log. Just noticed it bottom right on screen. Not the clearest part of the quest journey š
@wind bramble you can only do the main storylines once per save
there's no point doing it again, either of them
Of course once per save
You can't do it again on a save
I have restarted a lot, when updates launch
š¹
You can't do it again on a save
sometimes it bugs out hard
and player is able to do it again, without any real result
fwiw
I haven't run into that with artemis quest, though I have with Atlas quest
@lean quiver i just found the artifact. Where does that place me in the tutorial?
Found something new. Anyone encountered this before? There are new boundary failures after all.
Yeah encountered those a bunch
An amazing sight.
Yep
probably meaning that they're very similar
Found something new. Anyone encountered this before? There are new boundary failures after all.
@indigo smelt btw these are not new to Origins, since no one mentioned that
Huh.
Yea, the increase in variance I've only really seen a wild change in Lush planets so far. Almost all my Arctics are flatlands with minimal water. Only bioluminscent planet I've found so far has super frequent storms, so I can't enjoy the planet too much between A. Indium cycles. 
i've seen a lot of variety in radioactive, toxic, and badlands biomes
basically everything except snow planets
(which arguably needed an update the most)
What happens when you reach max standing?
A random guy gave me a cake at the nexus lol
I got a snow planet with Rattle Spine plants, but yeah otherwise most of the variety in snow planets is in the minerals, which is disappointing
yeah they basically set snow planets back to Atlas Rises era, which is better than nothing, but snow planets were worn out even then
I wish snow planets could have bioluminescent plants
Frozen planets can occasionally have the giant rock pillars from some of the weird planets, but that's the only drastic change I've observed on them thus far...Beyond maybe occasionally appearing with the new terrain
could snow textures always appear sort of as procedural splotches on rocks/cliffs? i don't visit them much so wasn't sure if that was new
Snow planets just don't look that different.
Interesting archive log:
I see shell upon shell collapse across the universe, the flow of a river of souls filling each dormant vessel, red orbs ever blinking in their wake.
I see a trillion Korvax bowing before a spherical mass, living, biological ships orbiting the sentient world. I see it go to sleep, encased in metal as the long centuries pass.
I see it all wiped out, in a war of light and greed.```
A lot of this is a retelling of the Korvax story.
But something stood out, something is encased in metal.
Ehm which galaxy type is the best to find lush worlds now?
Idk, i read gamepedia and seems like the chance of finding certain planet on each galaxy has changed
The seed may have changed a little bit?
So what is encased in metal? Korvax Prime? Living ships? Atlas?
well it read to me that the "it" is the Atlas, and it sounds like it is telling the death of Atlas, "encased in metal" aka the actual hardware the simulation runs on. just a guess
Well, this story takes place in the past.
And we have been resetting the atlas canonically many many times.
@gusty mountain sorry, only just now noticed your ping. You actually find lots of artefacts during the tutorials, so not sure.
well it could be a sub-Atlas, like the box on the Anomaly that runs the simulation where Artemis is. but yeah it could also be the Korvax homeworld, who knows
the way the Korvax were all bowing towards it made me think it was something to do with Atlas though
It doesn't say it's a simulation.
But other logs do, like a certain Gek Fantasy one.
There is a log saying exactly how Atlas will supposedly die, well up to a certain point. Not even Atlas can look beyond it's death.
Rogue Data:
It witnesses its own self, the black hole ripping apart its world, its core systems almost destroyed.```
Interesting, one archive log mentions using water of the abyss on Gek spawning pools. What could possibly go wrong?
i'm going to just find the archive logs naturally, a lot more fun than reading a datamine
Not a datamine in the usual sense. I just copied from the game.
gotcha
Just throwing this out there but wasn't it also mentioned in the lore that the Korvax used their blood on Gek spawning pools as well? Turning them from the feared warriors to traders like they are now
It's even more grim than that. I remember a log saying how some Korvax jumped into the pools, sacrificing themselves.
i like the no tree snow planets, found a few no tree lush as well
Do forest snow planets still exist?
for sure
I thought Origins removed the trees from snow planets?
Could this mean that the blood of the Korvax is the very same as 'the water'?
trees
The water is in relation to the Abyss
No, that doesn't make sense.
"The water" corrupts Korvax to the point where Korvax entities willingly choose to disconnect from the convergence.
It corrupts everything it touches, to the point these entities go against the atlas.
There is a universe where the sentinels wiped out all life and even went to war with each other.
This universe had even other Korvax corrupted.
The Korvax say that "The Water" is "Atlas-End", that's a recent archive log.
yeah i saw that log recently, i don't know if it was meant to be the same water though
There is a song coming from that water. Songs are connected to the Abyss.
It's been a while since I've read up on the lore š¤·āāļø
Also haven't read the new logs yet lol
Songs and the abyss aren't new. You were there when we uncovered it.
eventually we find out the true nature of the Abyss, we open a data log, and a video of Sean singing Fleetwood Mac's Dreams starts playing. it was something the Atlas's simulation didn't predict. unfathomable. absurd. and it drove the Atlas insane
Lame.
i barely played the living ship update do these mean anything
@hard stirrup there are shroom creatures like the crystalline creatures, the might give what ur looking for
thats a portal address in hex xolerate
@cloud epoch Shroom creatures? Got a screenshot of what one of them looks like?
one on the left
Ah ok, I'll have to look out for one of them then.
thats from the origins update page, but ive seen posts of people finding them in the wild, try fungal/toxic planets i think
crystal ones seem to be volcano and hot plaents
I'll go around looking in those biomes for those creatures the, thanks for the tips, hopefully it works.
@indigo smelt the other logs tell you where the singularity comes from. I hit one simulation the other day.
Archive logs? And what race?
just the regular back room atlas sim
No such log exists.
Korvax log for āechoesā
The archive has been changed, distorted from its original purpose as a place of peace. The entries here hum with a distant corruption. Prior empire had the logic. Remove Korvax identity through alteration of metallic appearance to anonymous flesh. Flesh generated by appearance modification device. Machine, just like Korvax. Xnt-Echo first to override system. Initiated change to First Spawn appearance. Mimicked their ways. Slew, devoured fellow Korvax in the waves of Halacan. Even now, we learn the new logic. Even a cruel world could be understood. Even hate can be manipulated. We will not lose ourselves again.
Where's the greatest likelihood of big ass dinosaurs? Biggest I've found yet has been a stegosaurus with a triceratops head and no spikes on the club at the end of the tail. I wanna see diplos and stuff
Any better chance based on star color or planet types?
Korvax log for āechoesā
stuff
@glass flare That's pretty brutal. Was brutal how they defeated the Gek with nanites in the spawn pools, too. Korvax legit the most ruthless race in the game
16/16 is quite clear that the infinite recursion in the simulation is the cause of the collapse
I've just unlocked the purge mission to travel to the galaxy center, now do atlas path until the end? when do I unlock 16 glyphs?
when u finish artemis shit afaik
i did it both ways.
even when i got them via travellers, when I got to the purge, it made me do 16 warps again.
oh wow, found a desert planet that is equivalent to scorched planet in day time
š®
VARIATION
non-extreme btw
what is the difference between birthing a new star or do nothing?
screenshots?
does this dump me in the next galaxy?
just birth a new star smh
Im a bit confused Im on the last purge step at the same time as atlas step?
do those both last steps coincide with each other?
atlas path requires you visit 10 (iirc) atlas stations. thats a bit of warping.
16 warps are needed for The Purge
if you do them together you save 10-16 warps you would otherwise have to do again.
if you dont go through it/one the mission glitches.
atlas path requires you visit 10 (iirc) atlas stations. thats a bit of warping.
@slender idol just a reminder, Atlas path requires the milestones to be achieved, so it can be a pita to speed through that part. Happened to me yesterday
another reason to do it when you get to The Purge. You probably have the milestones by then
I didnt lol
Am on the purge too lol
Had to go find a bunch of knowledge stones to boost it haha
So, does the atlas path just loop with black hole objectives after you get all the BPs?
the objective of the atlas path is to gather seeds, and then go to the 11th atlas station, and do things (no need to go into details), and maybe get another blueprint.
the atlas path "go through black hole" mission isn't actually an objective of the atlas path, so if you've completed the atlas path, there's no need at all to do missions from it. this particular one triggers usually when there's a black hole system very close by, but for example a atlas path mission objective like "gather atlas seeds" can pop up again after atlas path completion, simply by warping into a system with an atlas station. again, these can be safely ignored.
@valid sphinx ^
in fact
"going through a black hole" isn't a requirement for any of the quests
you can run every quest to completion and not need a single black hole warp
Black holes are a crapshoot anyways
Are apollo, artemis, and -null- dead?
When you reset the universe?
I felt bad for -null- right at the end when he started crying i want to communicate with him again
@sonic blaze I did ||the Don't Reset the universe ending, and still, I can't contact Apollo, artemis and null||
:( I miss -null- and apollo
And ||Artemis should be on Nada's machine right?||
No heās not there..
Idk the alien artemis dude/dudette
lol
But i miss apollo and really miss -null-...guess Iāll buy their bobbleheads to remember them..
@jagged python also what do i use remembrance for?
uhh so apparently the universe ends in 16 minutes does that mean my game is reset
and can i make it not reset?
@keen river it won't reset
16 minutes outside of the simulation
May as well be years ingame
oh ok good
What are the carbon crystals used for now you can't refine them down to condensed carbon?
@sonic blaze https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Remembrance
@jovial stag thanks
What are the carbon crystals used for now you can't refine them down to condensed carbon?
@rapid crane Nothing, but as its still in game that may change or it may be removed š¤·āāļø
So condensed carbon is just farming or buying?
you can still refine o2 to carbon -> condensed carbon but you now cannot make a carbon crystal

Its ok. hes just a simulation.
well they definitely have a dev kit or two i'm sure
I hate the fact that I accidentally left my signal booster by a trading post with a traveler who, according to him, is destined by the Atlas to kill and eat me.

lol
Ooh nms is coming to ps5?
Can we expect better crossplatform integration, compared to the buggy mess rn? xD
Is it? Sean retweeted the PS5 event we had, despite no NMS news being shown
I know because I watched it myself hoping for NMS news before Desolation update dropped
Where the hell do you land on the derelict freighters(in space)? Cannot figure it out
it should be at the top of it
if you can't see the 4 (iirc) landing pads, you can't land on them
this isn't a desolation derelict freighter: no landing pads
OK, thanks for the info
@uncut harness here's a desolation derelict freighter example, see the landing pads on it?
@uncut harness you can only find DFs via emergency broadcast receivers that you can buy from the scrap dealer (or get one from helios for free every week, but you do need to complete a DF incursion before he will give one for free)
I appreciate it, much clearer now :D
Good news, everyone. The Minotaur is tornado-proof.
I read that in Fansworth's voice.
finally found the synthetic fauna!
the Minotaur is so bad at turning around even a tornado can't help it :V
speaking of the non-desolation derelicts, do the two cargo pods drop anything other than chromatic metal?
@uncut harness There are no effects on the game no matter what you pick
Nada will agree with your choice
well Artemis will call you up a couple times after you send them in to the simulation
Okay
Btw, is there any comprehensive walkthrough around, which tells you exactly what was said by every character?
Cant find one for nms
ur best bet would be finding a cleaned up string dump
im not aware if one has been posted for origins yet
After finding the anomaly is there any notable benefit of continuing the main story?
Alright cool. Just checking or if I should jump immediately into the grind for the currencies
why not both? š¤·
True, true. I only started playing a couple days ago.
no need to rush, just take your time
If it just me or do the group missions seem very soloable? I haven't solo'd any, but have had no issues doing them with by brother
they are pretty solo-able, make sure to get a couple exosuit shield upgrades to be safe
Oh yeah. I've been so focused on upgrading my ship, lol. I need to do more with my tool and suit.
@prime inlet psst, you can randomly find them while pulsing too
This moth just died from a tornado in front of me. ā¹ļø
@heady fable does hosting missions ever work
Ive literally never seen option to join a hosted game
In the anomaly*
sometimes the mission board says a mission has 1/4 or something. that means you can join a group
I've been playing solo, so can't help you out there. sorry š¦
and they will kick you as the mission starts
Oh :/
idk if it was a bug, or intentional, or im just lucky now, but I havnt been in the anomoly while someone with a hot mic speaks russian while children cry in the background for a while now
I just disable voip no need to lol
I have noticed alot of people with ??? Characters or crossed out symbols
Can the game not translate?
As in character names
how else are you meant to tell the man from Pakistan to bring the remaining 3 glitches to the mission location to give to you so you can actually complete the weekly?
Good point lol
probably asian. most us/eu consoles dont have fonts with the unicode symbols for Korean etc
Use sign language and ingame gestures xD
I must admit tho, on the few times ive ended up with them, my asian and far eastern group members contributed exactly 0 to finishing the quest.
so i improved international relations by teaching them some english. how to talk about their mothers loose behaviour.
i should get a nobel prize or something.
||What happens if I wipe out ATLAS's code?||
Hmmmm
I think I'll do it
I just hope nothing bad happens
lol
||Oh shit||
He knows that I want to ||kill him||
||F for Artemis||
So how do I get to the center of the universe for the quest? Does it kick you there by following anomalies?
jump as far as you can, and get lucky with blackholes
I jumped literally 30 times and never got closer
You on the atlas path still @median lichen ?
Isnt there markers in the quest that show you where to go
The galaxy warp cinimatic is pretty good
the game charts a path to the center of the universe you know
you get glyphs everytime you warp as well
apparently you can use these glyphs to speed up the process but i don't know if that works in origins anymore
also #nms-questions is a more appropriate channel
You can tele closest to the core using the portal coords
No portal interference so its quite easy now
You shouldn't need to use player shared coords at all to finish atlas and artemis quest though, I didn't
portal interference got removed?
i didn't know that
Makes life alot easier lol
before it got removed you could still claim bases regardless of interference
making it possible to still skip most warping in the quest
overall it made portal interference redundant
easily bypassed by doing that
i have no idea if that ever got fixed though never really used it
Wasnt there an issue with bases set up like that if alot of ppl were doing it
Forgot
Think it increased alot of load or something
not sure
Did crashed freighters always show up on dead planets or is that new?
Not going to lie - the coolest thing on NMS was watching a friend take off his ship from my planet as I ran to my own ship
i always accept Artemis passed on.
New release log: https://www.nomanssky.com/2020/10/origins-patch-3-03/
Wait. I refused the atlas and was then given the seed quest. What would have happened if i had accepted?
Is the new galaxy choosing after the seed quest?
I have two quests telling me just to "enjoy" but also atlas path and the seeds

So seed seems to be the non-reset end quest. Glad there's no achievement for resetting on normal mode š“
Umm, I think I might have died xD
I followed Artemis-Apollo quest and reached the Atlas... I submitted and now I'm in the middle of nowhere
what's this about? Could that have been another way?
Intentional
Are you floating in space or on an empty planet
just "reborn"
I mean
I have all my stuff
but it looks like I've started all over again but in a very different planet
I did that a few hours ago but im so fucking confused about my choices in the last quest
but i got kicked out into nowhere twice i recall
Fly off into space and youll get a message probably
I mean, I have quests and all, everything is working
I'm just thinking about what I left behind
I shouldn't have lost anything, right?
my base and all?
how would I know
I found Artemis grave F
any new datamines?
Don't think so :(
new flamethrower soon
Flamethrower got removed I thought
i would assume from before the update
Likely during Desolation before it got patched out
When it was in the game people noticed it looked unfinished. They're likely still working on it and will include it in a later update
They just happened to accidently include it with Desolations
any new datamines?
@nocturne zephyr gumsk found some stuff about space bases/space walking and some sort of pet preview screen iirc
||Alright for people who wants to know the difference on the Atlas on your friends between reseting or not the galaxy, I have done both endings.||
||when you DON'T reset the galaxy, Nada, Polo, everyone you know becomes depressed, because they know onw day the galaxy will die.||
||When you DO reset the galaxy, Nada and Polo normal (happy actually), but I don't know if they know that the galaxy has been reseted or not. If they don't know, there are happy without knowing the full story||
||I gotta say that imo the best ending is when you reset, because you don't only get a new galaxy, but also Nada and Polo are happy||
||But both endings are sad.||
tbh i could see pets being a smaller update before the end of the year, especially with the attention to fauna in Origins
kinda hope we can tame any creature type though by going to explore and finding it
Someone found something in files that had a pet UI tab.
Gumsk:
One of the recently added pet elements in the files, for those that want context. Found in the UI file describing the tabs of inventory like exocraft, ship, freighter, multitool: PetThumbnailModelView
Pet living ship
Oh no
Wait actual pets?
Pet rocks, all of them procedural
Every dog treat procedural
i would not mind a pet rock
also, imagine if our pet could be that pop up mole thing
Just when you think you've seen everything, flocks of flying ravioli arrive.
meat saucers :V
Name them Boyardees
organic catalyst, is that you?
What is the lore about the robo creatures?
They're actually fish
Sentient fish that made themselves robot suits to walk around in
what happens if i birth a new star after getting the atlas seeds
Oh, easy, a star randomly apears in the system you're in, that's how people get the systems with 3 stars
The max is 3, which is why it's a flex
just finished both main quest lines for the first time, i'm a bit disappointed with how short the game is
but ah well there's plenty else to do
@keen river What? No. It is actually for moving to a new galaxy. You don't actually create anything new
The color of star you 'create' determines what galaxy you go to. Green goes to eissentam for example
And for data mining, I also saw something with a player turret in the damage table. I need to make sure that's new though and not referring to something like freighter turrets
||goddamn just hearing polo tell me that im their friends and that to know they'll cry with me and stay with me forever i just, my heart, it hurts so good||
What? My first trader totally did this and I didn't think it was a bug 
some bugs should be left alone
or made into easter eggs that have an occasional chance to occur
Guys im curious, what did ya people do at the end with artemis, and why
He/she still does that.
i helped him be alive, and i didn't tell him. i couldn't bring myself too, however i do regret it, considering the story events after
in the interest of the roleplay, saving him was an action done without the knowledge of what the truth of the universe is
so i mean, i regret it in a natural progression of things
I let him die it was just one solar system. He'd find his way to the border rather fast...
Travelers weren't made for single solar systems
I saved Artemis. Where there is life there is hope.
Any simulation can be improved... or he could be integrated into a shell like Null.
good old ||zork|| i laughed at that archive
If I do the purge task will my game be over
no
Ok thanks lol
np lol
Apollo just asked me if money and obedience were the key to happiness.
I told him that I don't know and he something "hopeful" in an alien language.
Did I make the right choice?
so, when changing galaxy through the questline, do ALL of your ships/multitools get broken? Or only the ones you have currently set as primary?
IIRC the ones you have currently equipped
So before changing swap to least favourite ship and MT
thanks again!
Or better yet get some throwaways if you have free slots
Also, tech upgrades installed in exosuit outside of dedicated tech tab might get damaged
gotcha, no more upgrades till I change galaxy š
all tech/mods in general inventories (on equipped gear/ship) will get damaged from The Purge/core warping
all tech/mods in general inventories will get damaged from The Purge/core warping
@prime inlet I'm confused now
black hole warps damage 1 random tech/upgrade mod in ships general inventory tab per warp
so, ships that are inactive will also get damaged?
I have 12 repair kits laying around from my derelict runs. Hope it's enough for when I finally have to switch galaxies/realities.
i only use them to repair some of the tech/mods
the ones that need less common mats or craftables
sorry, didn't understand the question, would you please clarify @rotund grotto ?
Wait repair kits work on damaged tech?
players used to see each other in a multiplayer session represented by light orbs, but.. are you refering to story npcs?
TIL
that's their purpose, @little otter
life on the planets
@rotund grotto do you have a screenshot? perhaps anomalous fauna is what you're refering to?
could be one of the new fauna added with 3.0 as well
yes
how long has exotic energy based life been on nms
visions (1.7) added a particular one that look like spores that you see on calcishroom planets, and another one that look like weird electric balls in the metallic planets, and also floating bags of blood in bubbling planets
then Origins (3.0) added some more exotic looking fauna that you can find on any planet
not bound to any specific ones
yeah this was added in 1.7
and clear
yeah, this was added back ^
sweet
found a video on how some of this life might be possible
and i wanted to share
but not spoil nms
but orange
also you can spoiler images when uploading but I think its PC exclusive
mobile has some workaround that I dont remember right now
if you cant post here, try #nms-photomode-gallery
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What if there was a museum that contained every type of life form in the universe? This experience takes you on a tour through the possible forms alien life might take, from the eerily ...
got to 21:00
its amazing stuff
but i would watch the whole video
its good stuff
ill post in general too
mobile has some workaround that I dont remember right now
@mighty rampart rename the file you want to upload to "SPOILER_filename.filetype"
interesting
@mighty rampart @rotund grotto rename your file on mobile with the prefix "SPOILER_" without the quotations
That will cause the image to be automatically spoilered hidden on mobile when uploading
Idk why you cant do it via discord upload is weird for mobile
Oh no they used the word beyond
HG will have to file a lawsuit now 
So to get the 16 glyphs.. u just roam around the station looking for the traveler who give u coorinate to a new glyph..? And when u got all 16.. what will that take you?
simply complete the storyline
you will have learned all glyphs after completing a mission called the purge
ye I think it gives you 1 per system jump
way faster and less time consuming - finding traveller graves isn't guaranteed
correct, 16 warps in any direction, 16 glyphs
People always be saying which character be going through the worst pain but theyāre always forgetting about
they are literally living in a game, how bad can it be :V
the comms is still working if they feel like to chat
Artemis :PepeHands:
they have a whole solar system, that's much more than most people could ask for :V
Well think about this:
Artemis, like us is a Traveler, whole purpose is to travel across vast distances in the galaxy
There's only so much to explore in one NMS Solar System
well between dead and that one solar system, there isn't much choice anyway :V
most dead people don't get a solar system to explore
So
The Gek enslaved the Korvax for money or something, then the Korvas bled their nanites into the soon to be born Gek making them docile
interesting, what did the Vy'keen do during that time? I forgot. THey were just talking about Hisk or something
I assume the vykeen's been at war with them
they are literally living in a game, how bad can it be :V
depends on the ending
On my save file I let Artemis die
It's better to free their soul than living or a world of lies
At least they can trully rest like that
I figured this would be the better place to ask... I've done the atlas path, and before I quit playing for a while I had finished the whole reset the universe quest but had chickened out and stayed in Elucid. I hate having quests in my log, if I make the centre journey and plunge thru, will it freakin clear it out š
Also I read you can come back to Elucid after, T/F?
And is there any more 'core story' to do now? I've done all the base guys quests & the nautilon stuff.
@left dome One method is to do Atlas Path first, then Artemis Path. Atlas Path ends with giving you an item. Then you do Artemis Path and follow it until the final part called The Purge.
^ For @turbid frost too, somewhat
I just finished Atlas Path couple days ago, now that I've returned
The core story is over after you've completed both Atlas and Artemis paths
I've got the 'new beginnings' quest sitting there now
Not sure about entering new galaxies though, But I imagine that you might be able to enter an Atlas interface and pick a galaxy.
Wait so u cant do artemis then atlas?
I heard that some players have travel throughout all the galaxies and ended up back in Euclid.
Just by core plunging I'd guess?
(lol here I am spelling the main galaxy wrong too š )
@left dome No, you can. But just saying that Atlas first makes sense cause it's just an item anyways, if you pick "Birth a Star" (which you should). Then you just do the rest.
I did read that the atlas interfaces don't talk to you anymore after refusing to reset & finishing seeds
Hmm, weird. I only speak from what I've been told though, so idk.
So what "is" atlas
but there's so much conflicting info between reddit, wiki, and all the patch changes/fixes along the way
i aint touched quests in my 40 plus hours lmfao
Atlas 'is' š
Never been to The Anomaly Before now lmao
Atlas is The Architect from The Matrix lol
same concept, not literally
The whole multiverse is a simulation and it's the CPU/RAM/AI
InB4 they name Matrix 4 with subtitle "Architect Rises"
I guess multiverse is a stretch, it's only multiple galaxies
The funny thing about the Simulation Hypothesis (which this game is obviously based on) is that, even if everything is a Simulation, it doesn't matter. Cause whatever is, is.
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