Do we really think there is some hidden thing in the static??
#nms-spoilers
chrome ice
teal trail
Yeah
idle jay
For me it either kept refreshing on its own or just disappeared
grizzled apex
@chrome ice it's a fact
idle jay
No it’s still being weird for me 😕
covert wing
news news news
today we got some news
news news news
hope we get more news tomorrow
idle jay
Within the next month maybe
crisp fern
lol
teal trail
Dev update probably within a week is my guess
idle jay
Yeah
haughty bay
So I died on a derelict freighter and now my ships hovering in the air and I can't leave....
covert wing
reload save?
crisp fern
I know they have a bad habit of introducing stuff with low stack limits at first
teal trail
Call ship from terminal?
haughty bay
It doesn't save when your on the freighter hoping I don't need to lose all the stuff I got
I tried calling it - just stayed in the same place
teal trail
Hmmmm
haughty bay
now I'm out of nav data to keep trying
crisp fern
Report the issue to HG
idle jay
Friendly reminder that any bugs should be reported here https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us
crisp fern
could we get the !hg command working in here?
haughty bay
Was just searching for the link, thanks @idle jay
idle jay
👍
For future reference you can find it in the channel description of #discord-server-feedback
covert wing
#news-suggestions
crisp fern
!hg
covert wing
idle jay
#Sean-Just-Give-Us-News-Already-Please
covert wing
SHAAAAAWN
crisp fern
seriously tho, !hg command in here would be good for discussing issues with new spoiler-ish content, including some of the old later story missions
hybrid pendant
finished my first derelect freighter
formal knot
Damn nice!
chrome ice
@grizzled apex I’m not sure it’s a fact that there’s something hidden in the static of the trailer....
hybrid pendant
neon lights lol
hybrid pendant
took me an hour
gloomy isle
@hybrid pendant what did you find?
hybrid pendant
well i found a manifest of the crew did see the story of the crew where they were
the captain did talk about the geks saying they were the best at war he said
we will see that.
idle jay
Feel free to spoil the story since the stories are procedural anyway lol
hybrid pendant
the gek that was on board flew with the escape module
it was the last log of the captain before he died
idle jay
Dark stuff
hybrid pendant
yay dark stuff
and at the end that view lol
u can see the new lens flare reallly good here
last anchor
There is still the weekend missions that last until august 12
So probs something good then as well
hybrid pendant
idle jay
That’s right Keshoo
hybrid pendant
Fancy
idle jay
Those aren’t even done yet
hybrid pendant
looks like rainbow
gloomy isle
With mine, some ice cores thawed out and spread something. At the same time, something a gek took on board made them go mad (the abyss?) and start throwing themselves out of the airlock so they could talk to the void
Fun fun fun
idle jay
Still going by the possible theory that a big update would land or we would hear about a big update at the end of the mission lore
Also Jordan
I think Ariadne is coming back this weekend
uncut harness
Already is back
idle jay
And we’ll be hearing what they have to say about the Abyss
I’m talking lore stuff from her
hybrid pendant
she is back already
chrome ice
But they’ll probably have dialogue this weekend @uncut harness
hybrid pendant
by the way did u noticed that they have gone from doing living ship in febuary
to exomech in april
to crossplay in june
to Desolation in July
chrome ice
yah it was odd to release desolation at this time
idle jay
Yeah
hybrid pendant
we are getting almost monthly update
uncut harness
Stonks meme, but instead of stonks it's updates
wispy aurora
I couldn’t find the installable tech for the freighter from the crashed freighter. Help?
covert wing
reaaaally hoping for news tomorrow
hybrid pendant
that bright as fuck
chrome ice
I mean but they clearly did it for a reason. Why release cross play then immediately Desolation? Why not wait? Almost feels like they wanted to push desolation out to get something else in earlier
gloomy isle
The story hinted at desolation too
chrome ice
And as previously stated the weekend missions with story lore go on still for awhile
hybrid pendant
no its not because they wanted to et something else remember
idle jay
Until some point in August I believe
chrome ice
It would be super cool to see something on the Xbox thing happening this month but I highly highly doubt it.
hybrid pendant
seann said they want to push updates more frequently
idle jay
And that’s the time when big updates normally come out
hybrid pendant
i think desolation was ready and they just released it
idle jay
^
hybrid pendant
i think we will get 2-3 updates this summer
not just a big one
that how they go now
chrome ice
But they also specially said they’re working on more ambitious things long term
idle jay
Just like exomech. It was likely part of a bigger thing. They just decided to release it since it was ready
hybrid pendant
yeah but that doeesent mean they wont give us updates
compared to before
before they were starting updates then mesh them together to create like next atlas rises
and beyond
now they dont really do that
when an update is ready they release it
that why exo mech is so out of place
or desolation
covert wing
smaller but more frequent updates is better for HG. 1. less stuff to focus on in the following patches. 2. keeps the game in the news
hybrid pendant
exactly
they see that more frequent updates makes the game have a bigger player/ average base
soo they are going for that
gloomy isle
That's why im expecting the big update to be mostly the headline feature, since they're releasing the little features as and when
hybrid pendant
doesent mean they arent working on bigger stuff that can take way much time
chrome ice
Which is exactly what I said
idle jay
Small but frequent updates also keep us busy while they work on other things
hybrid pendant
i think the big update as a whole will be multiple updates
idle jay
^
idle jay
That long wait for Beyond was agonizing
covert wing
can't wait for variation overhaul update!!!
hybrid pendant
we had crossplay and had the weekend mission back i know not everyone does them but it keept us thinking about no man's sky
and they are pushing proceduation back into updates
idle jay
can't wait for variation overhaul update!!!
@covert wing Same
hybrid pendant
its not anymoe adding new stuff its adding proceduration back at the center of the game
and that what we kinda asked for years
that the core of this game its procedural generation
idle jay
^
hybrid pendant
soo i bet this new procedural generation interior system will be used elsewhere
idle jay
Hey I mean this update was full of procedural stuff
idle jay
They could use that on structures, quests, etc
hybrid pendant
they really arent running out of ideas
covert wing
if they ever run out of ideas they'll hop on here and read my post history imo. it's a goldmine
hybrid pendant
i mean living ships and Desolation is completly unexpected
that the two most wtf updates of all times
living ships story (Starbirth) was already kinda creepy
but now its on a whole new level
covert wing
variation
covert wing
no
crisp fern
the creepiest part of the Starbirth mission chain is the timers
covert wing
lol
idle jay
It’s funny
I’ve talked about this procedural freighter ideas a couple of times
And then it happened exactly as I hoped
static urchin
sean is big pp
crisp fern
except not planetside...yet
covert wing
this update is definitely exactly what I hoped from for the derelicts
hybrid pendant
yeah
static urchin
ye
hybrid pendant
the good thing about this kind of updates is the tech in it
and how much it could expand the future of the game
static urchin
teleporters in freighters
hybrid pendant
this update really make me hyped for the future of the game
crisp fern
now just make crashed freighters as interesting 👀
static urchin
this is game changing
idle jay
I can easily see them doing this for crashed freighters to
covert wing
hmmm not sure how that'd work though
hybrid pendant
i mean just making the light this better is quite game changing for me
crisp fern
have some not buried in the dirt as much
hybrid pendant
@covert wing same
because crashed freighter have their interior broken and they are quite small in size
static urchin
does improved graphics affect everyone?
crisp fern
we should report photo mode issues now if they still remain, as we're going into bug fix mode again
static urchin
lighting I mean
hybrid pendant
not really i passed an hour in the derelect freighter
at 150% resolution with a GTX 1060 and a FX7300
worked fine
60fps
pissed my pants because i didnt wanted the egg to explode
static urchin
nice
gusty stream
Same
hybrid pendant
its a really weird feeling when u go in those derelect freighters
gusty stream
It feels like a whole different game in there
hybrid pendant
it doesent feel like no man's sky
gusty stream
Shame I have to cough up some big bucks just to go to one
(Wait do they show up randomly?)
hybrid pendant
no
gusty stream
Fuck
hybrid pendant
but i think an interation gives u want for free each week
gusty stream
Ah, typical
sturdy acorn
dw, just give it 16 minutes
hybrid pendant
it looks soo good inside of it
gusty stream
We break it whenever there's a new update LMAO
But bro look at those freighter assets
👀
I want to use em in building
hybrid pendant
still cant get over how flashy the ship engine is now
covert wing
news engine
hybrid pendant
Money trail
hybrid pendant
i kinda want to do derelict freighers all night
@gusty stream want to explore them with me?
gusty stream
I got a freighter thinking it was Red/white, but it was actually red/light blue
Hmm, sounds fun
But lemme finish my story
ahem
hybrid pendant
ok
gusty stream
In this update the freighter changed color to red/white, so even though painting is broken I still got what I wanted
For free
Lmao
hybrid pendant
nice lol
some planets looks better after the update of the lighting
maybe worth to explore them
hybrid pendant
we can together if u want
gusty stream
Ladders were there before
hybrid pendant
beyond
tepid iris
aha
sturdy acorn
weren't ladders only between the top and bottom part, not the bottom and the surface
gusty stream
The bottom ladders were added more recently yes
But they were there before
@hybrid pendant Can I join you now?
hybrid pendant
sure
im in the space station i will wait to pick a new derelict freighter
i really love this update
gusty stream
Lemme sell some crew manifests and stuff
gloomy isle
Helios isn't giving me my free thingy :(
idle jay
The key?
gloomy isle
Yeah
idle jay
That was during a specific weekend mission thing
gloomy isle
Oh not that then
idle jay
Unless your talking about something else?
hybrid pendant
yup
gloomy isle
Maybe you have to have used one before
I've done one so I'll check again
He's the tree guy right?
BTW does anyone know what you get when you hand the logs to the guild envoy?
idle jay
glass flare
are the dungeon creatures procedural at all? or like the horrors, all exactly the same every time you see them?
hybrid pendant
yeah
cloud epoch
solar were u the one wanting space hulks?'
glass flare
bummer
hybrid pendant
soo when u select a system where ur friend is u see his player name
when its not its the name of the system
glass flare
zin well I had been requesting procedural dungeons on crashed freighters for a long time on reddit, so this is pretty much that
cloud epoch
lol nice
mental socket
@hybrid pendant can you see random player names in systems when you're not in a group tho
gloomy isle
@glass flare they're not on every ship, but I think because of lore reasons they're the same
dark sierra
What’s the difference between selling freighter stuff to the two vendors? I think they both just give nanites?
idle jay
Would have made it even more perfect if the horrors had some procedural stuff to it
dark sierra
Or like a boss fight type monster in the engineering core room
cloud epoch
then we would have thicc boi horrors with toothpick legs and pimple heads
idle jay
Imagine having Dead Space styled enemies in the freighters
glass flare
i would rather NMS not go too explicitly towards that vibe. NMS works better when it's abstractly creepy rather than explicitly so
tepid iris
@dusk sorrel Were the leaks you received different than Desolation?
idle jay
Leaning a bit into it for certain aspects would be nice though
Tbh I want it to go into a dreamy vibe for reasons I will not say because I've said it enough tines
hybrid pendant
ok there a bug on PS4
if u do derelict freighter co op on pc
when u come out of ur ship it crash
mighty rampart
fukin gave me a heart attack
uncut harness
So guys
These dudes posting glyphs for freighters at NMS Coordinate exchange
is it for a system near it
Or the system with the freighter
Oh my god its Papa freighter
gloomy isle
Hahaha
uncut harness
Well i wasnt expecting that
gloomy isle
Are you on about derelicts or just normal freighters?
uncut harness
i want a venator
I got a cool looking one on NMS Coordinate Exchange
but im wondering how it works
I dont think portals count as warps
gloomy isle
Basically the coordinates lead to a system it spawns in iirc. Not sure how freighter spawning works though
I'm not sure if they spawn in set waves like ships
tepid iris
could living ships be related to the aliens in derelict freighters?
idle jay
Possibly yeah
uncut harness
So wait
Do i warp 4 times, portal trough and go to space
Or warp 3 times, portal trough
idle jay
I think it might have something to do with the other universe/iteration leaking into ours
gloomy isle
I think it's all abyss related
idle jay
First the Living Ships. Now the aliens on the freighter. More will likely come after
gloomy isle
Starting in the abandoned buildings
unborn gale
Ps if any has any update on the letters or numbers in the trailer just message me or something
mighty rampart
tomorrow? I'm off to sleep now
gusty stream
Oh
gloomy isle
The lighting looks nice
grizzled apex
@tepid iris
LS were designed by the korvax tho. These derelict aliens are horrors
hybrid pendant
especialy in those derelict freighters @gloomy isle
grizzled apex
Any update on the glyphs or greek alphabets?
hybrid pendant
nope
teal trail
Here's what I could outline a bit @grizzled apex
grizzled apex
Oh wow
I'm gonna write these down tomorrow cuse it's late here
They look like a glyphic language
Or greek
@teal trail thanks SO much tho
teal trail
your welcome @grizzled apex
Here's what I got on the other one..... much more faded so I'm going to have to connect the dots a bit more
much less clear
but I think they are the same.... so we should just be able to work with the first one
gloomy isle
The planets of light are looking nice
teal trail
this appears to be the rest of it, taken from the frame before it
gloomy isle
Looks to be like the unrecognised chareacter icon
covert wing
what are those things
gloomy isle
Like when you load a symbol on your pc and it isn't recognised
covert wing
"news soon"
teal trail
It's clear it's meant to be there, as it persists along with all the blur for 2 frames, not one. That may help us locate other tampering/messages.
More?
frames also doubled up here
covert wing
teal trail
This looks to be an even more garbled version of a part of what we got yesterday
glass flare
they look like all those icons on laundry tags to me lol
uncut harness
so are you guys speculating more about the glitchiness at the end of the trailer?
Just wondering 🤔
grizzled apex
Nope
Its a string of glyphic text in parts of the trailer
Specifically the static parts
uncut harness
hmmm
teal trail
all throughout, yeah
grizzled apex
Most bursts of static have a glyphic sequence that we now see
I'm surprised no one else has notice btw
Anoyone on reddit up on this?
uncut harness
oh wow
gloomy isle
I feel like it's definitely something
glass flare
is that the same number of symbols as a portal address?
uncut harness
Nope, it's 10, addresses are 12
teal trail
Not sure if this is anything more (1:00 mark)
uncut harness
Any photo editors here? Can't we use Photoshop or smt to get the threshold maybe?
gloomy isle
So we can't brute force it
uncut harness
Or detect edges?
glass flare
it feels intentional, but also too messy to actually decipher
grizzled apex
Posted on the subreddit hopefully we can get some of the OG WT minds on this too and the Melody Of The Egg detectives.
chrome ice
🙄i can almost guarantee this doesn’t mean anything
grizzled apex
So many glyphs or characters in so many different parts of a video mean nothing?
They are very distinct
They do not seem to match the surroundings much
teal trail
unlikely, considering its kindof watermarked into the all the garbled parts
grizzled apex
Yup
glass flare
well whoever made the trailer could have put them in as flavor
grizzled apex
The glyphs dont move
well whoever made the trailer could have put them in as flavor
@glass flare
The fact that sean posted a clip means that he saw the trailer. And I doubt he'd put in flavour text. Especially after our reaction to the 2 second clip.
They had a whole day to edit any text in the trailer
glass flare
in the WT days we got some stuff like this, but the stuff they wanted us to decode was always clearer than this
i'm not saying no, but i'm skeptical
grizzled apex
This is HG themselves tho. That was Alice and smith
They probs dont have much experience hiding stuff in trailers
But it seems very uncanny to be natural
Can anyone slow down the trailer so that we get 1 frame oer second?
That way we can see if it's part of the rapidly changing static or an added detail
gloomy isle
It'd definitely be odd to put it in there and expect people to not try and decode it
Was also thinking
The derelicts are tied to abyss right?
grizzled apex
Perhaps
gloomy isle
The monitor in the opening area has the same icon on it as the salvageable scrap
grizzled apex
I mean they arrive at a time when the abyss is taking over
@gloomy isle also the scrap dealer
gloomy isle
Yeah
teal trail
@grizzled apex You can use the <> keys on youtube to go slide by slide
grizzled apex
I'm on mobile rn so... plus it's easier to see motion when u dont press a button for me imo
gloomy isle
Maybe the content we see moving on will show the influence of the abyss growing
severe sun
At least 4 of them could be mathmatical symbols: Upper case gamma, inverted delta (namla), join symbol, double struck L
grizzled apex
Interesting thing to note.
Ariadne explored an abandoned derelict freighter between suns. This could be what they saw
@severe sun check the cleaned images by @teal trail
gloomy isle
That's what I was thinking earlier @grizzled apex
gloomy echo
Here's my theory, these freighters were crippled mid warp, they have been lost in the abyss since, and their reappearance is insinuating the warp is opening up now and spitting things back out.
Makes ya wonder what its gonna spit out next.
gloomy isle
It seems that the new story reflects upcoming content somewhat
@gloomy echo maybe but I thought you can learn what happens to each one?
grizzled apex
Yea. Maybe ariadne landed in these things that could be controlled by the abyss. That line up with lore in the weekend missions ||when it is revealed that ariadne died and was replaced||
gloomy isle
Maybe the real ariadne is captured on one
grizzled apex
@gloomy echo quite similar to the LS pulse objects
gloomy echo
@gloomy isle yes I believe we can, as more lore is discovered we should know more
grizzled apex
@gloomy isle you can
gloomy echo
@grizzled apex exactly
hybrid pendant
soo
grizzled apex
My first one was pretty hazy to. Captains log talks about peace treaties with the Gek. Some other record mentions damage during combat. Whilst another talks about nanite foam contamination.
hybrid pendant
what the code about?
cloud epoch
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ ???
grizzled apex
Oh hey someone else on reddit noticed it too!
uncut harness
Yeah I dont know what to do with it either
I just played with some sliders trying to get some clear symbols
gloomy isle
I've not heard the audio of the trailer. Does it sound like it could have anything hidden in its spectrogram?
uncut harness
Doubt
gloomy isle
Fair
grizzled apex
@gloomy isle its already part of a track in game
gloomy isle
Ooh ok Ive not heard the trailer myself
grizzled apex
Someone else on reddit noticed the text too. Hopefully we can get more people investigating
@gloomy isle pretty creepy and sets the mood imo
Apart from ancient greek, any suggestions as to what language this is?
silk bramble
what is the reward for selling derelict data to guild merchants?
severe sun
appreciation
silk bramble
thx
sturdy acorn
nanites
severe sun
+1 to whatever race owned the freighter when I turned it in
sturdy acorn
i got 806 nanites after selling crew manifest and captains log
severe sun
that's from the scrap merchant you get nanites?
silk bramble
yes
sturdy acorn
yes
silk bramble
if you extract nanites from cargo in derelict you also get some, i got 600nanites
severe sun
will do that next time then
sturdy acorn
yeah, loot the whole thing for profit
silk bramble
yes
grizzled apex
Any chance that this text is in Hebrew?
glass flare
her mythological backstory makes more sense with this update Minos put Ariadne in charge of the labyrinth where sacrifices were made as part of reparations
gloomy isle
Not every freighter is infested
cloud epoch
other than the putative G character " Γ " i dont think there is really anything there
maybe an upside down delta Δ
uncut harness
I wouldn’t be surprised if they turned out to be some weird glyphs we’ll use in the future, instead of something we “solve”
uncut harness
Perhaps
sturdy acorn
not L
uncut harness
0 with a tail
sturdy acorn
USB icon
leaden lily
I don’t see the upside down triangle, but maybe it’s supposed to be the V thing?
grizzled apex
It looks like an inverted delta
leaden lily
True
grizzled apex
But tea maybe that's it
From an old sci fi series apparently
Got the idea when an ancient language search turned up Star wars languages
gloomy isle
@grizzled apex I've seen 2 without any slime at all
grizzled apex
Wow.
gloomy isle
The style varies per system
gloomy isle
Yeah I've only done 2 myself
grizzled apex
And this was before the patch notes so I was looking for more stuff
gloomy isle
Aah ok
glass flare
yeah, who knows, it could be a prelude to new WT glyphs or something
gloomy isle
Would be amazing
I've not got my hopes up about it being that scale yet though
It's just made me think
Remember when we didn't even know WT was NMS related?
glass flare
yeah i don't expect it, at least not with a physical component. would be pretty hard to run a full location-based ARG in the middle of a pandemic
gloomy isle
Yeah it'd be hard
But the living ship style stuff was cool
Where we got given glyphs and stuff
severe sun
have any new capital ship styles been added, or still just the two
grizzled apex
@glass flare
Could be an In game ARG
We know due to the melody of the egg that that is possible for HG to do
Another possible candidate for our language
Elder furthark runes
bleak gorge
Are we talking about those glyphs in the trailer?
gloomy isle
Yeah
bleak gorge
Because I noticed that there were also words hidden just before desolation comes on screen and also what appears to be a code that flashes on screen in the static while the word desolation becomes garbled
I’ll find an image hold on
upper void
What are these weird symbols at the top of the screen?
upper void
M A T E
upper void
bIG uPdaTe cOnfIRmEd11!!11
patent shale
exactly
twin plinth
lol
patent shale
in all honesty they could be portal glyphs
then we put it in game
boop
sokmething special on that planet
bleak gorge
@grizzled apex time stamp 1:00
grizzled apex
Tahts obvious
bleak gorge
This appears, got it as clear as possible
grizzled apex
Does that say "No More"?
upper void
no signal
twin plinth
no signal
bleak gorge
Maybe not a clue
grizzled apex
Time stamp?
upper void
I read it as no piano at first lol
grizzled apex
@bleak gorge no it could be. The atlas is fying and maybe this trailer shows that some critical component list connection
bleak gorge
Time stamp 1:02
unborn gale
So we have the letters correct?
bleak gorge
Also this. Can’t make it out but it’s so different to all the static around it
It looks like numbers
unborn gale
For the beginning of the trailer sorry
upper void
Must be NMS own language then?
unborn gale
Combination maybe?
grizzled apex
Perhaps
unborn gale
We can look at the nms language but I don’t think so
grizzled apex
Looks like greek and elder furthark runes
upper void
it’s not glyphs that’s for sure
unborn gale
Hey wait
upper void
Waiting
grizzled apex
@unborn gale tea none of the in game languages that are readable have separate alphabets
glass flare
it looks most similar to ancient greek to me, at least the first half. which makes sense given Ariadne is a greek mythological figure
unborn gale
Weren’t there other symbols before glyphs that waking titan used
grizzled apex
@unborn gale which ones?
unborn gale
Or am I thinking of the glyphs
grizzled apex
@glass flare most NMS Story figures have greek names
@unborn gale I belive you are
upper void
Have you checked any other games for that language?
It’s unlikely but maybe
The language could be from some other game
glass flare
yes and WT characters. just saying that it fits. but doesn't really get us anywhere because some of the symbols seem like random scribbles
grizzled apex
But again, hg knows how wildly we speculate
chrome ice
I feel like this is reading to much into stuff. I mean in all this I really don’t see symbols or letters just vague things that sort of look like stuff and then we’re kinda applying meaning
grizzled apex
Would thay scribble random glyphs obscurely just for fun?
bleak gorge
@chrome ice here
grizzled apex
Sean knows our reaction to the 2 second static clip
bleak gorge
Coloured in a bit more for you
grizzled apex
Imagine them posting full on glyphs just for fun
upper void
They aren’t going to go all ARG and throw random symbols and glyphs into a trailer just because
grizzled apex
@bleak gorge dide that's awesoem! Thx
upper void
It means something
unborn gale
Yo check what about black mirror? Black mirror has pulled from nms before
upper void
What’s black mirror?
grizzled apex
@upper void yea they've never done that before
bleak gorge
Guys, Sean never just posts stuff for fun unless it means something and is understandable
grizzled apex
@unborn gale good ideaz
compact coyote
This has me hyped again
unborn gale
If there is some type of language in black mirror, we should check
bleak gorge
Sean never just goes “augh, let’s whack is some whacky glyphs hehehe”
upper void
Is black mirror a game?
unborn gale
Black mirror is a tv show
upper void
They’ve pulled from NMS before?
sturdy acorn
🥕 🐡 augh
upper void
That could mean something potentially
unborn gale
And has used nms as inspiration for an episode
bleak gorge
These glyphs look 110% intentional because they only appear for a single frame. It takes effort for the team to put them in properly and hide them, so it’s not gonna just be for nothing
sturdy acorn
which episode?
glass flare
the bowtie symbol is a math symbol for a natural join in relational algebra
chrome ice
If you look at the actual image there are like 3 of those you outlined @bleak gorge that actually look somewhat like that
sturdy acorn
so maybe each symbol is from a separate subject and means its own thing
chrome ice
grizzled apex
@glass flare it's also present in elder furthark
upper void
It was only 1 frame?
compact coyote
This is like an I am sophie glitch or ash vlogs kinda thing
upper void
Looked like 3 or 4 frames to me
bleak gorge
Well, enough for us to see it
grizzled apex
I believe it is
compact coyote
Very interesting
grizzled apex
Yup
bleak gorge
Yeah
grizzled apex
But deffinterly there
bleak gorge
My mistake for thinking it was one
upper void
Also notice that the glyphs change a bit over the frames
unborn gale
i believe the images shows up close to 6 to 8 times in the trailer
upper void
Some fade in and out
severe sun
is the second to last glyph repeated?
upper void
Has anything been found in the audio?
bleak gorge
Wait what about that star trek galactic language? The one they use for the enchantment table in minecraft? (Lol)
severe sun
there can't be that many words with letter 1 and 9 the same
uncut harness
I don't know how to quote a picture on here but character 7 is 'd' in Elder Futhark (Old Norse)
grizzled apex
@upper void it's from the soundtrack
chrome ice
Right but you see the symbol in the middle that you drew @bleak gorge with a square and a longer line at the bottom. In that second imagine that longer line at the bottom isn’t a full line it’s more like an A with a line
upper void
Ah
lost flume
See this is what I like to see, frame by frame analyzation
grizzled apex
@bleak gorge I check that's not it
chrome ice
And the triangle at the end that you just missed out on but is seen clearly in the second image
glass flare
@grizzled apex good call. it's quite possible each symbol is from a different language
lost flume
Those sounds that were played could be put through a spectogram to get images out
chrome ice
I really think we are reading to much in to this
grizzled apex
@unborn gale is it the same set if glyphs or several
lost flume
I really think we are reading to much in to this
@chrome ice that's part of the fun
grizzled apex
@chrome ice well atleast we are doing what we do best. And having fun tbh I kiss wt
unborn gale
im gonna look thorugh the black mirror stuff see if i can find something
grizzled apex
Great
spice gorge
I can't see another update coming "soon"...
bleak gorge
@chrome ice it looks like the same glyphs in both images, just different states of distortion. The outline picture matches the first picture because imo it’s the clearest form of the glyphs
grizzled apex
@glass flare maybe they all line up from separate yet related languages
unborn gale
@grizzled apex it's definitly not the same in the game
bleak gorge
grizzled apex
Someone take a screenshot of this chat and tweet it at sean lol
upper void
A couple more glyphs show up in this one
spice gorge
There's so much noise in that frame
sturdy acorn
didn't somebody say earlier that the first character is from a variation of cyrillic?
grizzled apex
Yea
upper void
We need to somehow combine the images
grizzled apex
The inverted delta
upper void
Like overlay one on top of the other
grizzled apex
@upper void good call
upper void
Since it seems like you never see all the glyphs of a sequence on one frame
unborn gale
you guys remeber those cards they sent out long ago that had no use what so ever
sturdy acorn
the atlaspass v4?
grizzled apex
But they stay in generally 1 spot over the course of the trailer
upper void
Does anyone here have one?
grizzled apex
Many people probably do
bleak gorge
Omg @upper void I know what you’re getting at
upper void
But I wonder if those have something?
bleak gorge
They have writing on the sides of the@
sturdy acorn
use a blacklight on the V4?
upper void
A A A A A A
sturdy acorn
wait they do
unborn gale
I have one
bleak gorge
Yeah pretty sure they do
upper void
Fox
grizzled apex
@sturdy acorn I believe that was done back then
lost flume
Oh shit it's all coming together now
unborn gale
it's on me right now
upper void
Examine ever fricking MILLIMETER of it
bleak gorge
Also, I’m sure that I’ve seen glyphs like this in NMS before, and not in the portals
lost flume
EXAMINE EVERY NANOMETER
sturdy acorn
where though?
grizzled apex
Where though?
bleak gorge
There are other glyphs in game for like decals on things
sturdy acorn
ah
unborn gale
compact coyote
CSD REPORTING FOR DURY
grizzled apex
But those are slightly more comolex
sturdy acorn
on what things though?
glass flare
there are some glyphs on boxes in the space stations
grizzled apex
CSD RETURNS
bleak gorge
Awwwwww no writing
sturdy acorn
i wonder if we can find any of those same glyphs ingame
compact coyote
Where is my CSD gang at?
grizzled apex
We need a dataminer
glass flare
but that wouldn't help us, it has to be a language that we can already translate to english letters/numbers
grizzled apex
Yup
bleak gorge
Yeah can anyone datamine?
sturdy acorn
we should probably create a list of possible ideas
grizzled apex
Giving HG time to plan out an execute an ARG?
formal knot
we couldnt find an alphabet with all them characters in it
glass flare
i thought some of the glyphs looked like the writing from the Star Wars language but maybe just stylistically https://omniglot.com/conscripts/aurekbesh.htm
unborn gale
It might be multilple
grizzled apex
Exactly my point @formal knot
upper void
@glass flare some of them do look a bit similar
grizzled apex
Damn @chrome ice you are dead set on killing hype or any fun
formal knot
Also that thing we found about the "CEM" do you think that has any relevence?
sturdy acorn
CEM?
chrome ice
I’m all for hype and fun but this is just unrealistic @grizzled apex even for the nms community
compact coyote
I swear if I get an email from Old Gods....
bleak gorge
I think the little “arg” has already begun. Why show us 2 seconds of static with very clearly different scenes in it that doesn’t show anything to do with the update? Why go to the trouble of hiding glyphs in the static of the actual trailer?
grizzled apex
The most legible part if the static tho
formal knot
CEM/CEN
upper void
It just says CEN
formal knot
CENter?
unborn gale
That could be an R
upper void
Look through some of the frames before and after?
chrome ice
Or CEA
gloomy isle
Done another derelict. It's 100% all to do with abyss
grizzled apex
@chrome ice
We literally sat through penalizing 2 second of static to find nothing
chrome ice
Ok that does actually look like something not gonna lie
unborn gale
I’m leaning toward r or n
compact coyote
Lol all of the sudden tomorrow we get an email from Old Gods
unborn gale
Lmao
grizzled apex
@chrome ice told ye
unborn gale
Actually
bleak gorge
@chrome ice who cares if it doesn’t even end up going anywhere? This is fun! I love decoding stuff that could be meaningless
chrome ice
Well now I feel like there is something because those are certainly letters
grizzled apex
@compact coyote I feel like HG would do this ARG themselves
gloomy isle
@grizzled apex ayy you turned orange
old canopy
I think there are two more symbols at the end
sturdy acorn
do you guys think this has anything to do with the derelict freighters
open canyon
heres the two overlaid, but the last few chars looked shittier so i reduced opacity another 75%
chrome ice
Well it’s either CE/CEI/CEA/CER/CEM/CEN
formal knot
I'd love there to be an in game connection, perhaps something this weekend?
glass flare
Cen is a rune in old english meaning "torch"
formal knot
Thats my bet atleast
chrome ice
Unless those are supposed to be giving us the starting letters to what the glyphs are
grizzled apex
Torch?
chrome ice
As like a starting guide
grizzled apex
Wait
unborn gale
The triangle on the end
glass flare
grizzled apex
@chrome ice you could be onto something
bleak gorge
Like a cipher
upper void
That’d make sense
chrome ice
I mean the first glyph is almost certainly a Greek C right
grizzled apex
Looks like it
severe sun
Gamma is G, not C
upper void
So here’s the entire first sequence we think
grizzled apex
@chrome ice lol the irony of how quickly you changed attitude
upper void
lol
chrome ice
Oh you’re right @severe sun
compact coyote
i love this
formal knot
2nd character looks like the proportionality sign
chrome ice
Well it’s almost certainly gamma
severe sun
It's the third letter of the greek alphabet, but it's G. In Cyrillic it's Ge
grizzled apex
@upper void potentially. @bleak gorge could u overlay your highlighted glyphs too?
chrome ice
Gamma, alpha, delta look like
upper void
Yes we should highlight the full overlayed one
chrome ice
Wait no upside down delta so not delta
formal knot
Didnt someone say that 3rd was like upsidown delta or something
grizzled apex
And see which ones are new too
chrome ice
yah it’s upside down
bleak gorge
Can someone else quickly do it? I’m in Australia and I just woke up and I’m about to head out
upper void
is an Upside down delta seen in any language?
chrome ice
if that is gamma then i wonder what the C-E thing stood for
glass flare
according to Quora upside down delta means "harp" in Greek, not sure of the source for that https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-meaning-of-the-upside-down-delta-symbol
grizzled apex
So if we take the known, what message is unveiled?
severe sun
Might be worth downloading the video and actually stepping it through same by frame, youtube's ., steps are 5-10 frames at a time
glass flare
formal knot
THis is what i see
grizzled apex
One on the right as well
chrome ice
unless they’re like rotating things on purpose
severe sun
glyph 4 looks like a rotated psi, but I've never seen that anywhere before
grizzled apex
A trapezium I belive
glass flare
curious that we have two symbols so far which double as mathematical symbols as well
molten wagon
that derelict exploration was fun <.< but didnt really recover the 5mil I spent to locate it lmao
severe sun
Ψ
bleak gorge
@glass flare MATHS?!? SUPERFORMULA CONFIIIIIRMED!!!!111111🤤😥😪🤫😰😴😪🤔🥴🤢🤮🤒🤬😓🤢😱😪🤭😴😮
Hahahaaha
grizzled apex
@glass flare NMS galaxies like Euclid and Hilbert are named after mathematicians so
upper void
lol
molten wagon
Is there an Einstein galaxy?
sturdy acorn
no
glass flare
Sean is going to squeeze some maths in there whenever he can
chrome ice
Yah I know del is used in terms of finding the gradient of a curve
bleak gorge
Ok, ima leave you detectives to do your work, I’ll come back later. Happy searching!
upper void
Here’s the thing
grizzled apex
Ahh this brings back WT memories
severe sun
glyph 2 looks kind of like a rotated lambda
upper void
Whatever language this is will obviously be very difficult to find
sturdy acorn
and just the other day i heard of WT for the first time
molten wagon
If I wanted to spend 5mil to get a few nanites and some scrap, I'd buy used ships and scrap them up lmao
upper void
And im on the side that it’s a mashup of languages
sturdy acorn
yeah
compact coyote
WT was an amazing experience
grizzled apex
@upper void yup ur right. I think that's intentional
sturdy acorn
each symbol from another language, represents an idea or letter
chrome ice
It’s for finding directional derivatives but I don’t think they’d put out a string of math symbols. And math frequently borrows letters like lambda and del for variables and operators so I don’t think it’s math related
grizzled apex
Possibly
sturdy acorn
though of course that relies on knowing what the symbols even look like
grizzled apex
@sturdy acorn you might be on to the ideas bit
spice gorge
Well someone post the screens to the subreddit to get others looking at them if you're actually thinking theyre a clue.
grizzled apex
@spice gorge I did. Many others noticed too
sturdy acorn
link?
formal knot
Should we make a list of each glyphs possible characters?
sturdy acorn
yeah
grizzled apex
Asked them to help out by spreading the word an theorizing
glass flare
can't find a language so far with the upside down delta. the Nabla symbol is purely a math symbol, but borrows the greek word for harp
chrome ice
Anyone wanna go in analyze pixel by pixel so we can get the best approximation of the actually characters 😂
spice gorge
Is it on the subreddit?
grizzled apex
@formal knot YES
old canopy
Here’s what I see 🤔
grizzled apex
@spice gorge yup
sturdy acorn
what does the nabla symbol represent in math @glass flare
spice gorge
Was this from the trailer proper or the 3 second teaser?
grizzled apex
Proper trailer
formal knot
@old canopy That looks pretty legit
grizzled apex
Yea
formal knot
Im gonna see if it makes it clearer to overlay every frame we got of the glyphs
old canopy
if you paste the youtube URL in here you can get pretty granular with the controls: http://www.watchframebyframe.com/, that's how I got the above
sturdy acorn
i feel like i'ev seen the 5th one somewhere
formal knot
In youtube you can use < and > to scroll between frames
upper void
@old canopy that is VERY useful
grizzled apex
Very
old canopy
@formal knot this lets you go one step further
formal knot
oh cool!
grizzled apex
Maybe we can write the glyph out one by one and image search?
sturdy acorn
maybe
grizzled apex
Because if they are all from different languages then 1 image search wont help
sturdy acorn
write it out in black on a white piece of paper, would make it easier to recognize
severe sun
Use this if you like: https://shapecatcher.com/
spice gorge
Site is down
old canopy
it's been sketchy since the update dropped
severe sun
I put the ones in I could sort of recognise, but nothing struck me beyond a few of them being rotated greek letters
glass flare
@sturdy acorn the Nabla symbol is a "vector differential operator" which is used to find the gradient of a curve. i'm no math person though
formal knot
At the start of the video it got the CE? thing aswell
bleak gorge
When the no man’s sky site is back up look for clues
leaden lily
CE could be initials maybe
sturdy acorn
maybe it's in the HTML
severe sun
Inb4 someone used a pirated after-effects plugin and we've found the watermark
formal knot
Perhaps its just a product of whatever noise function they use to distort the film?
upper void
NMS site is down
formal knot
@severe sun lmao
gloomy isle
So do some derelicts spawn all gooey?
upper void
@sturdy acorn you could be onto something potentially
grizzled apex
@severe sun lol
gloomy isle
I've only seen ones without goo
old canopy
these symbols are familiar
grizzled apex
@sturdy acorn hol up
sturdy acorn
possibly half an hour it'll be back up, then we check the HTML
compact marlin
i have not seen one with goo lol
compact coyote
why is their site down
grizzled apex
Beyond had more page refreshes and the site never went down
compact marlin
only had ones with these jellyfish creatures
grizzled apex
@grizzled apex well not for this long
upper void
Friend said this
grizzled apex
Babylonian.... hmmm
old canopy
hmm, an old WT post: https://twitter.com/WatchingTitan/status/1013096767045464064
upper void
Da frick is Masonic script?
sturdy acorn
isn't the babylonian alphabet just cuneiform?
glass flare
not to be all superformula!! but the nabla symbol (and vector calculus in general) is probably used in those calculations
sturdy acorn
none of that really looks like cuneiform
compact coyote
did anyone use a spectograph?
upper void
We should try anyway
sturdy acorn
yeah
grizzled apex
Yea
upper void
They could’ve hidden something
old canopy
@grizzled apex no, but I've definitely seen some of them before, I just can quite remember where... still diggin
upper void
It’s easy to hide weird shit in Spectrograph audio
grizzled apex
@upper void yup
upper void
Minecraft did it with their music discs
gloomy isle
I'm going to see if system type influences derelicts
upper void
so I wouldn’t be surprised if HG did something to the audio
upper void
Idk how to spectrograph tho
grizzled apex
And with the trailer sounds
gloomy isle
Concert to a. Mp4 and load into audacity
sturdy acorn
audacity's free right?
grizzled apex
Yup
sturdy acorn
alright
gloomy isle
@grizzled apex you're right
sturdy acorn
i'll try to look for something with audacity
grizzled apex
Cool
upper void
Sounds good
I have audacity but I don’t feel like dealing with audio channels right now lol
Ahh the wonders of stereo mix
sturdy acorn
no clue what that is but i'll try anyway
open canyon
there are some interesting shapes in the spectrogram i did with my phone but nothing like that waking titan image
upper void
Basically all my inputs and outputs for my audio are fricked right now and im too lazy to fix them
leaden lily
Didn’t someone do a spectrograph on the original 2-second clip already?
open canyon
pretty vague stuff
sturdy acorn
so it's the desolation trailer right?
upper void
Yes
austere cliff
Is it normal that the quest "The Atlas path" gets restarted once I finish it and pick a new galaxy to go? I think I got the exact same quest again
open canyon
in the obvious wierd matrix sounds is only thing sorta to relook at if i was gonna bother getting an audio rip then analysing that
severe sun
... 'desolation' is 10 letters
open canyon
lethal dagger
"desolation" is 10 letters but it doesn't fit unless they used two separate glyphs to represent o
open canyon
and s
formal knot
unborn gale
@old canopy Those were the ones i was talking about
formal knot
DUnno how helpful this is but this is all the frames where its semi legible
sturdy acorn
spectrogram shows nothing of note, sending ss in a second
unborn gale
yo
sturdy acorn
unborn gale
spectrogram the shit out of the trailer
upper void
Hmm
unborn gale
there were glitch noises in the entirety of the trailer
so maybe something of value every time the symbols show up
unborn gale
zoom and enhance
upper void
I find this part interesting
sturdy acorn
@formal knot went to that part and my ears are now EMP'd, thanks
formal knot
No problamo 👍🏽
upper void
lol
formal knot
lol
upper void
Maybe we should just spectrogram the static parts?
sturdy acorn
let's go on in
unborn gale
is it possible those lines are some sort of vague decoding process
i have no idea just spoating out random ideas
upper void
Can someone look into the sites HTML maybe?
sturdy acorn
doing so right now
upper void
glass flare
do we have timestamps for the symbol frames? i'm trying to get the GameDetectives folks involved
unborn gale
i've looked at it before and nothing seems out of the ordinary
glass flare
thanks
unborn gale
here
glass flare
i feel like i've seen the rectangle with line at the bottom before but can't quite place it
compact coyote
Prospector sean
upper void
There are more glyphs then just the ones at the start
sturdy acorn
wait what
unborn gale
here are timestamps for the other symbols
upper void
They’re scattered through the whole video
sturdy acorn
let's see them
formal knot
The ones at the start are clearest
compact coyote
ayeee more codes
spice gorge
I saw that watching frame by frame a few mins ago but it looks so noisy it seems not to be anything of note
formal knot
spice gorge
no?
formal knot
Here is all of them i could find
spice gorge
I hope someone posts this to the subreddit
sturdy acorn
so it's all the same symbols, with some occasional additions
unborn gale
they did already
sturdy acorn
earlier somebody said they posted it
unborn gale
idk who
upper void
The sequence doesn’t change
formal knot
They are just distorted right?