Maybe the glitches of the Atlas lead to it losing the original scan, making it ask for ours.
#nms-spoilers
grizzled apex
But then again the Atlas knows its dying. Maybe it wants to be close to the traveller in its last moments.
wanton sinew
WHAT!? I got a writhing globe... Says something about a curse... Do I keep it?
heady wyvern
It exists only to sell.
wanton sinew
It says it will stalk the bearer across the Galaxy and the next, unless it is sold before the curse can take effect.
heady wyvern
Flavor text. You can't do anything else with it anyway.
wanton sinew
Well yeah. But I was thinking that maybe if I keep it more will show up. Cause a sub frequency appeared when I got it.
wanton sinew
Like how it says I got a com channel to talk to a freighter but the text was purple and said it was "sub optimal" or something like that.
wanton sinew
o.o I'll hold onto it for science.
I also just got a very compact and sleek exotic that I like alot.
crisp fern
yes do the science
daring bronze
@uncut harness || -null- is the first traveller. Just in response to a previous post||
@inland totem There are a lot of races of aliens that arent talked about that probably exist. There is dialogue that suggests this, in the form of talking to a traveller who has never heard or seen any of the three main races in the game, yet there they are in the space station
inland totem
oh
daring bronze
I think the anomaly race is what the travellers started out as. Like -null-, but the copies of hin created by the atlas are travellers
Just ny opinion
My
inland totem
makes sense tho
and since atlas is a sim
it could be like
the image of an astronaut
because his maker could be in space?
idk
daring bronze
I think the anomalies represent free thought
It breaks the fourth wall, and i think it is supposed to be us gamers that are the anomalies
Independent of what the atlas or anything has in store
uncut harness
Dreamers
uncut harness
#wrongserver if anyone saw that
loud mist
what happens when you go to the final interface
jovial stag
what happens when you go to the final interface
@loud mist you land and get out of your ship 😉
verbal jackal
Ugh going to the 16 atlas interfaces is such a pain in the ass
It's not like this game needed this padding to make it artificially longer
prime inlet
16 interfaces?
verbal jackal
16 atlas stations for the seeds
prime inlet
there are 10 seeds, not 16
verbal jackal
I have to go to 16 stations tho for the quest
prime inlet
?
iirc, there's 10 seeds, which are given after the player reaches a certain minimum Milestone title
i don't remember the game telling me to visit 16 atlas stations.
verbal jackal
It says I've been to 8/16 stations so far
verbal jackal
Sure
before it said stations or interfaces but that was before I got to the part of the quest where I found out the universe is a simulation
prime inlet
The Purge isn't a mission from the Atlas path, it's from the Artemis path
verbal jackal
Oh so I don't have to do it for the center thingy?
Because it ended up saying I needed to go to all the stations instead of the center on my main quest when I went in one
prime inlet
your goal here is to get all portal glyphs, basically, and do 16 warp jumps to get to the final interface
verbal jackal
Oh I already have all 16
verbal jackal
I figured they brought me closer to the center
prime inlet
they do.
6000 LY each time
on your galactic map, on the top left corner
you'll see a distance to the core
if you select as your mission the Galactic core, you will see that distances don't match
that is because ships cannot travel in a straight line, as they can't warp outside of the "hyperlane" lines
black holes are sorta like a highway
verbal jackal
Ah, so do i need to do that last atlas station for the 10th seed?
Not last but next I mean
prime inlet
aye, to get the bp of and craft the last seed
but you need to be at Magellan journey milestone title at least
loud mist
as if i havent already done the atlas path
earnest tartan
So I "finished" the main story last night
So is there nothing else? || Is the traveler just stuck in an infinite loop of galactic resets or something?||
||Or is the galaxy after Euclid considered a "stable" simulation?||
crisp fern
@earnest tartan For the moment, roughly speaking yes to the first question. Although, ||the story doesn't let you continually reset things last I was aware, so you don't find yourself doing that over & over, but narratively it's implied that it keeps resetting, for reasons you can uncover elsewhere||
crisp fern
Uhh, no. That one covers a different topic
earnest tartan
Oh okay
verbal jackal
Uh I did the simulation reset and all my stuff is broken?
What do I do
I can't even mine
Luckily I had an extra ship I called in since the one I used was damaged
Ok nvm I had another multi tool
gusty cobalt
verbal jackal
Am I supposed to be able to go back to Euclid?
I looked it up and it said no but I'm still able to teleport to my old bases
hidden fox
@verbal jackal I just did this. Went to the green galaxy. I'm able to go back to my Euclid. I think they changed that in the Beyind update (not too sure, I'm new)
verbal jackal
Ah
hidden fox
I made a teleporter in the new galaxy just in case too
verbal jackal
Kinda wish I chose the serene galaxy then because the one I chose is basically the same as euclid
hidden fox
The teal one? Yeah, I looked it up before I made the choice. Didnt want to screw up hours of play time. Not too sure, but I think you can still travel to other galaxies via blackholes
heady wyvern
Not via black holes. The two options are to convince another player to ferry you to a galaxy or go down the galaxy listings through the Galactic Core.
jovial stag
@hidden fox @verbal jackal Yes the ability to return to previous galaxies was added in the Beyond update, just make sure you build a base in the new galaxy before return to the old one or you won't be able to get back to the new one without a Huber.
crisp fern
or a very long journey
hidden fox
Gotcha, I havent even attempted a trip to the galactic core yet
frosty fossil
What ending should I do? I don’t want to reset my progress or disappoint any npc’s
heady wyvern
Either.
Your tech, ship, freighter and fleet, and even Euclid bases remain no matter which choice you make here.
frosty fossil
Center of the galaxy transports you to another galaxy right
I’m on that path right now
heady wyvern
Yes.
frosty fossil
Cool
heady wyvern
Also, please wait 16 warps.
frosty fossil
What’s that mean
heady wyvern
Please perform 16 warps.
frosty fossil
Ok
wanton sinew
About to get my first living ship. Anything I should do to prepare? I have the star system where I need to go.
I collected the 3 souls and went back through the portal and got the communication on my ship. Waiting for my thrusters to recharge so I can take off.
prime inlet
i remember reading something about manually saving before actually gettgin to the spot the ship is
so that you could reload, and go to another system to get a different one
prime inlet
i think star system wise yeah
wanton sinew
Welp. Too late now.
wanton sinew
I'm already here. XD
My ship is "The Twitching Zuvenn"
Now I have glitched eggs. Do i just trash them?
prime inlet
i saved mine
stored it on my freighter
@wanton sinew see https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Void_Egg_(Space_Encounter)
wanton sinew
That's not what I mean. The eggs you buy with Quicksilver that change during the quests. They duplicated at 2 of the stages and I still have them.
@prime inlet
prime inlet
if you had read that, you'd know now that "They will not appear if you have a Void Egg on board or any parts needed to create a Living Ship."
so, if you want to get upgrades, lose them
wanton sinew
I read that before. It's why I'm wondering if I scrap these.
prime inlet
discard them, store them elsewhere
wanton sinew
Or do I sell them?
prime inlet
i don't think they serve any further purpose
wanton sinew
I scrapped them.
tender pumice
I found a 3 glygh portal in primary mission: A Leap in the Dark, should I built base computer and portal next to it? For next time convience?
tender pumice
Or just base computer?
heady wyvern
You can teleport to any of your bases, even those without teleport termini, through a station terminus.
tender pumice
Umm I cant use build mode
heady wyvern
Pardon?
tender pumice
Z build mode for making base computer
heady wyvern
I know what you're talking about, I just don't know how that's possible.
tender pumice
Ima reload the gam
heady wyvern
Always a good idea in these situations.
zinc birch
Anytime, once you get the egg from the anomaly the quest triggers .
toxic gate
is it worth investing in the undersea exo/base tech or do you get that from the main questline anyway?
frosty fossil
Can I go to the galaxy core any time or just for that ending
earnest tartan
I accidentally soft-locked myself afterr the simulation reset lol
I had got a living ship before then and once it was busted the materials to repair it were not obtainable on the planet
Had already salvaged my previous ship
So ended up having to cheat repair it in order to continue
flint kindle
This my favorite game
hot pivot
U right friend
cloud epoch
weekend mission item?
crisp fern
@cloud epoch sounds like albumen pearls
cloud epoch
thx
fringe turtle
@cloud epoch sounds like albumen pearls
@crisp fern Is 20 enough?
fringe turtle
It isn't enough. Need 24.
idle jay
Oh your doing the weekly mission? Nice. Just did that earlier today
fringe turtle
Awww. The sentinels don't like me anymore. 😢
heady wyvern
"You wouldn't steal am albumen pearl..."
uncut harness
Not sure if spoiler, boundary terminal material
|| One of the terminal entries reads about Convergence being caputred by Gek First Spawn, and after that Gek start worshipping Atlas. The summary states it's about [-----] dreaming of breaking free from capture and becoming the ruler over organic life forms ||
|| Is this referencing Atlas and people who created it?||
tender pumice
From First Traveler, So.. sentinel are cross dimensional bug remover
grizzled apex
@uncut harness
Yes, Telamon, the voice in our suit, used to be a sister entity to the Atlas, before it attached telamon to our suit. Telamon has written the entries, and for some reason, cant take the Atlas's name, and instead calls it [-----].
hollow sluice
hmmm, what to do with artemis
grizzled apex
Can someone help me find a list of the weekend event descriptions and the storyline? HG have said that this is a story arc with continually evolving chapters arriving in the form of new missions. I want to look and the complete list or at least help in compiling this story.
crisp fern
Best bet might be to see if you can find someone on YouTube that doesn't just skip over the mission descriptions/dialogues, I think.
Alternatively may be able to dig up the mission tables & reference those with language files & get the info that way. That would likely be the easier/faster way all things considering.
A very abbreviated version of events however would simply be weekly reality destabilizations occurring that are somehow mended by our activities of gathering this or that or doing this or that.
grizzled apex
@crisp fern thanks for your reply! I'm actually on ps4 so lang files aren't an option. I know the main idea of these missions but I know that each one has a separate iteration to talk to, and I want to get every detail written down as a story arc. I wonder if anyone else is doing soemthing similar. It's the old statement from HG that it's a continually evolving stroy that gets me excited.
tepid iris
so according to Twitter we're expecting the summer update reveal soon ™️ ?
nocturne zephyr
You referring to the Geoff keighley summer games stuff ?
idle jay
Update reveal soon? Nice
heady wyvern
@spice gorge If I recall, Albumen Pearls.
nocturne zephyr
Why do you guys think there will be an update reveal?
crisp fern
i think it's the usual anticipation getting them antsy
nocturne zephyr
That's more likely
idle jay
That's probably it
With the way update releases have been going it makes sense that we would think that
proud gale
What twitter stuff? Could someone give a link?
grizzled apex
I seriously doubt its gonna be big. Most summer updates at this point have been teased or announced WAAY before now. I'd guess its either a small summer update, or the big update is gonna launch later.
On the other hand, does anyone know who the "Beings claiming to be from the future " are in the boundary failure logs?
Mentioned in the 13th encounter :
Multiple contacts have occurred between the Traveller [HOST] and individuals claiming to have arrived from a future location in time.
The phenomena is typically preceded by electromagnetic distortion consistent with a white hole anomaly. No lasting effects seem to occur.
Is this supposed to be referencing Nada and Polo?
peak prairie
grizzled apex
Hmmm... No, cant be. Telamon was only attached to the last travellers exosuit. I initially thought that this was referencing something to come, but there has been a mention of time travel in the lore
The abandoned buildings have logs from a traveller who visited a planet from pre release, and came across a warning that he left for himself in the future.
crisp fern
Last or first Traveler?
hollow sluice
With everything I've found out about the Gek's history, I can't help feel a little sorry for them.
tall flint
That was extremely anticlimactic
I did the Atlas Path, and well
system discovered by: [person]
kinda sucked for all the hype
coral granite
[PC] Ok, so "flesh on metal bones" part of starbirth (step 5 i think) sends me through a portal and to a set of coordinates - but players have built base parts around the abandoned building, and i am physically unable to access the mission terminal to continue the quest
surely there is a workaround?
crisp fern
report the base @coral granite, should disappear it
coral granite
thank you @crisp fern , that worked
didn't know that reporting a base made it disappear instantly
devout cloud
which mission is flesh on metal bones again?
heady wyvern
@devout cloud Part of Starbirth.
devout cloud
welll....yeah
grizzled apex
@crisp fern
The abandoned buildings mention another traveller, or travellers. Some of their lore makes me believe they are written by a traveller from pre release, or structured so. So perhaps the first.
past thorn
So I was doing the mission 16/16, and I went to the atlas and I chose the green orb thing, so it warped me to a random toxic planet, and all of my tech in my general slots broke. It now says to explore, and that the universe is to be discovered or something like that. What do I do now?
crisp fern
You repair your stuff and keep exploring
empty cedar
When you pick Lush and leave Euclid for the first time, is it always Eissentam where you end up?
past thorn
@crisp fern so the story is over?
zinc birch
Nope, I ended up in Hilbert Dimension
empty cedar
Is it random?
zinc birch
The "story" is more or less over . Now it's up to you and your motivations. What do you want to do in the universe(s)?
past thorn
Also, another question, what is the significance of the colored orbs?
fringe turtle
@past thorn Yeah, I know, it's a pain. You can do anything you want. First thing is to repair all the damaged tech and that may take a while.
empty cedar
Oh wait I know. I was in Kikolgallr when I completed that quest. That's probably why.
past thorn
@fringe turtle ok. Thanks for answering
fringe turtle
The color orb you choose will determine what type of galaxy you'll go to when you go to the center of the galaxy.
Red = Galaxy with more extreme planets.
Green = Galaxy with a higher chance of lush planets in yellow systems.
Blue = Galaxy with more dead planets.
White = Default galaxy (same as Euclid)
crisp fern
@past thorn the Artemis Path is done, but you may have some other story missions to complete, e.g. Atlas Path/Dreams of the Deep/Starbirth
stoic beacon
Blue also tends to have more exotic types.
empty cedar
Is there a reliable way to shorten the time it takes to get to Eissentam from Euclid, other than joining a friend's game?
jovial stag
@empty cedar ```css
Galaxy Types ~ The Choice at the end of the Artemis Questline.
> Harsh - This type is referred to in-game as Burning, Raging, Relentless or Ruthless galaxy, and displayed with a red hologram.
> Takes you to galaxy #3 - Calypso [Red Ord]
> Lush - This type is referred to in-game as Halcyon, Inspiring, Serene or Tranquil galaxy, and displayed with a green hologram.
> Takes you to galaxy #10 - Eissentam [Green Orb]
> Empty - This type is referred to in-game as Ancestral, Frozen, Exhausted or Silent galaxy, and displayed with a blue hologram.
> Takes you to galaxy #7 - Budullangr [Blue Orb]
> Norm - This type is referred to in-game as Imperfect, Improved, Parallel or Rebuilt galaxy, and displayed with a teal hologram.
> Takes you to galaxy #2 - Hilbert Dimension [Teal Orb]
knotty briar
So what do I need to do to be prepared for the journey through the core
outer cobalt
The jump to the center requires a fully charged warp drive. You'll end up in the next galaxy with all your equipment and ship being broken, so a lot of repairs are required. You can avoid some of this by taking a 'junk ship' which has nothing much to actually lose. Make sure you have plenty resources to do repairs.
outer cobalt
Not sure, as I have not used it myself to jump center. Others will likely know. I assume something similar will happen though, requiring to do repairs, just using different resources. So basically check your tech for the ship you use and ensure you have the resources for repair. It may help to have tech in technology slots, instead of main inventory
knotty briar
I think I'ma use a junky ship
outer cobalt
You can actually use your freighter too, but also requires full warp fuel
outer cobalt
On a side note, make sure you have a base in the galaxy you leave, or at least an existing teleport back in case you ever wish to return without relying on joining other players (MP) to get back. Once you arrive it is also wise to get a new teleport/base so you are sure to have a fixed teleport to the new system you are 'now' in
outer cobalt
I also believe your multitool will receive damage, so include resources for repair as well. Might want to switch to another if you have to reduce damage done
knotty briar
Ok
outer cobalt
It is basically like a fresh start, but now with a lot more to fix. Not usually that big a deal if you can at least fix the most important parts. The rest can follow later
outer cobalt
@knotty briar I also noticed 2 pins in #nms-questions, one explaining how to make the jump, the other some general advise
knotty briar
Ok I'll check it out
real sapphire
@manic moat you can go back to the previous galaxy you from, provided you have a base there.
Base will not be deleted even when you went to another galaxy
manic moat
I guess it was updated then, as it seems people somewhere mid 2019 were having trouble saying they could not go back
real sapphire
Yea, that was when beyond came out
manic moat
oh alright then, seems a lot better this way
real sapphire
👍
real sapphire
Hmm serene
manic moat
What's there?
manic moat
What's in Eissentam lol?
real sapphire
Uh... more lush planets around yellow stars basically
manic moat
I tought that was Lush galaxy
real sapphire
Dead worlds ar less frequent around yello star there
Well layman term, yes its lush galaxy
manic moat
"If the player chooses to reset the simulation, they will be given a choice of what kind of galaxy will be created next. The four options are Lush galaxy (green), Harsh galaxy (red), Empty galaxy (blue) and Normal galaxy (teal)."
Basically we said the same xD Lush is green orb
real sapphire
Nope. Only once
If you choose lush from euclid
You will be transported to Eissentam galaxy
Aka lush galaxy
manic moat
Ok soo everything else is just hm going to galaxy centres?
😦
U only get free pass one time
real sapphire
Yea... unfortunately 😩
real sapphire
Yep
uncut harness
ive been to centre and outer fade
and it is amazing
euclid centre is an awesome system
manic moat
@real sapphire sorry to bother but I pick green and now want to go back
Im scared if I use a portal i might lose acess to essentiam
teleporter**
real sapphire
nah you won't lose access back to eissentam
past thorn
After you chose one of the colored orbs, what effect does it have on post story gameplay?
Also what do glyphs do
manic moat
Glyphs allow u to use portals
To go to places that other people found f.e: ships, multi tools, cool looking planets, freighters
The orbs u choose affect what galaxy u will be put in
The four options are Lush galaxy (green), Harsh galaxy (red), Empty galaxy (blue) and Normal galaxy (teal).
uncut harness
the star seeds are overpowered
past thorn
@manic moat is there a way to know what galaxy you went to? And also does that mean you can never go to the other galaxies?
manic moat
Yeah when u enter it says
also on galaxy map top left corner
From what I know, u can only choose the galaxy one time, then u need to go to the center of each galaxy until you reach the galaxy you want
there are 256 galaxies
Euclid is number 1, and essentiam is 10 I think
past thorn
What do you mean by “u can only choose the galaxy one time, then u need to go to the center of each galaxy until you reach the galaxy you want”
manic moat
Well you can choose one of 5 galaxies I think, it's the little orbs at the atlas station
past thorn
And can I go to other galaxies?
manic moat
If u ever want to reach a new galaxy after that you will have to go the center of the current galaxy you are in
past thorn
Then what do I do when I reach the center
manic moat
Nothing
When you warp to the center it teleports you to the next galaxy
But it takes a very looooong time to warp to the center
past thorn
So if I will take me to the next, does that mean I would have to go through a ton to get back to Euclid
manic moat
yeah
But actually no
Because you can use a teleporter to go back
Rn im at Essentiam, just got there, so im making a quick base and a teleporter
Then if I go to Euclid, I'm sure I can go back to Essentiam whenver I want
manic moat
Yeah I'm not sure about that so I won't be trying it lmao
heady wyvern
You do have bases in both galaxies, yes? Then it must work.
manic moat
I don't
heady wyvern
You at least had one in Euclid, no?
manic moat
Yeah, anyways in the meantime I made a new base
daring bronze
@past thorn the space station teleporter tells you which galaxy the other locations are in, but only after you get to a galaxy other than euclid does it do that.
@manic moat read above
past thorn
ok
daring bronze
You can always go back to yiur base no natter which galaxy
empty cedar
Uh oh. I just completed the Artemis quest under my new save and got to the galaxy I want to settle in, but just realized I should have completed the Atlas quest first in order to get the star seed blueprint. If I still want the blueprint and to stay in Eissentam, would I have to complete Atlas, birth a new star, and then teleport back to Eissentam?
Or maybe teleport back to Euclid, then finish Atlas, and it'll send me back to Eissentam again.
Sorry to ping ya, @fringe turtle, but I think it might be ok because you're on the clock. :)
fringe turtle
Yeah, that shouldn't be a problem. Setup a base and then go back to Euclid and finish Atlas.
empty cedar
Cool, thanks!
fringe turtle
np
empty cedar
How does it pick which specific lush galaxy one gets sent to, is it in sequence? Do you always go to Eissentam if you choose lush and you're currently in one of the first 9?
Or is it a random selection from all lush galaxies.
empty cedar
Gah, he isn't there and a thing that looks like a crafting interface is non-interactable.
zinc birch
*indiana jones voice *
Take a look around , what do you see?
But in all seriousness it's just a "devious " puzzle . I'm confident you can solve it .
empty cedar
Heh, yeah, I found it before I came back here. I guess I wasn't expecting a puzzle.
And I was put off by his absence, noting the mission says to talk to him.
Oh, and there was no travel to a new galaxy this time. I guess that's because I already did so via the other mission?
Anyway, all sorted!
crisp fern
@empty cedar in the past galaxy type would go to the first in sequence, and well, since you used to not be able to revisit the choice, it never really came up whether it would take you to the next in sequence...
empty cedar
Ah, gotcha. Also, the wiki says, "If the player interacts with the final interface close to the Galaxy Centre and passes through the indicated black hole, then subsequently travels to the Galaxy Centre, a starting system in a new galaxy will also be close to the centre."
crisp fern
Yeaah...I still can't decide if that's a weird pseudo-reward for making the journey or if that's just Yet Another Bug™
real sapphire
grizzled apex
What's up with the datamining wiki page?
Its older than beyond. Is there any other place where recent updates have been datamined?
zinc birch
I can't help but feel like that new systems are actually being made still to this day. I hang out on the edge of hilbert Dimension. I thought I explored everything nearby my "home " system. But there were 3 systems remarkably close (under 30 light years ) that I hadn't visited or seen yet.
grizzled apex
Hmm, that would be kinda useless considering how most of NMS already will never be explored.
past thorn
How does one get a heart of the sun
heady wyvern
Atlas path.
jovial stag
@halcyon lagoon do the Artemis questline, finish it make a choice of which of 4 galaxies to go to, as you want lush that'll be the green orb you choose as that goes to Eissentam, build a base when you get there and as long as you have a base in Euclid you can go back and forth now, since the Beyond update to the game
halcyon lagoon
@jovial stag I know but that changes my home world which I specified I do not want to do. If your home-galaxy is Euclid, you can't access the Space Station network of another galaxy you've explored. I just don't want to change home-galaxies 🙂
grizzled apex
You can
daring bronze
@halcyon lagoon you can go to any space station in any galaxy
You used to not be able to from what i have been told
But you can go to a new galaxy and it won't break anything. Just be sure to make a base there
limber swallow
Any new / spoiler about next patches?
grizzled apex
Nope
There is some speculation about Sean revealing something after the new qs item unlocks, cuse people think it's taking too long.
dusky gale
guys what happens if i dont save Artemis ?
heady wyvern
That choice is ultimately up to personal morals.
dusky gale
i want end his misery but dunno if i miss some good reward
dusky gale
i see, thanks man
heady wyvern
Whatever you think is the right thing to do.
dusky gale
hehe i made it so both sides thinks i did the right think
grizzled apex
So I have a theory.
Brace for craziness
So since the Storyline has dialogue saying that "The Atlas is screaming,being ripped apart by black holes." I thought of something. What if these are really black holes and not a metaphor? If so, then the Rogue black hole space encounter is really unnerving as it shows that the black holes are multiplying. The Atlas us being ripped apart faster. I mean take a look at the interfaces. The stations appear to be torn, some panels broken.
idle jay
Maybe that can explain why all of the anomalous events from the weekend missions are occurring. The Atlas is slowly losing the ability to keep itself together and we are essentially repairing it to prevent it from dying
But then it would eventually get to a point where it can hardly keep itself together and us repairing it would no longer help. This could end up leading to a major update
grizzled apex
The end of sixteen is said to be unseen even by the atlas. It cannot see who arrives by it. Either HG put this in to make it so that the creator or one of their race fixes the atlas in its last minutes or it's a mirage of the dying Atlas.
cloud epoch
weekend item?
craggy sluice
Or us Travellers becoming the Atlas itself? Look at the cover photo of Atlas Rises, NEXT and Beyond....
grizzled apex
The travelers are a simulated entity created by the Atlas using a corrupted scan of its creators mind. In an attempt to summon its creator by its side the Atlas brought forth the last travelers, us players
Or us Travellers becoming the Atlas itself? Look at the cover photo of Atlas Rises, NEXT and Beyond....
I personally believe that the covers symbolize the death of the Atlas. It stands tall on release but its light grows weaker and it come closer to the planet. At the Beyond cover, its screaming, broadcasting a hurt red message, and appears to glitch.
tulip tangle
[ADVICE WIPED]
dusky gale
whaat
lol
i just want the atlas pass so dunno if i should hit yes
@tulip tangle ? 😮
jovial stag
you don't get the Atlas Pass from there...
dusky gale
sad -,-, so it dont matter what i choose i guess
proud lava
You craft the atlas pass
has nothing to do with Atlas Path quest
P.S.: You only need to craft V3, it unlocks V2 and V1 stuff aswell
dusky gale
i see, the recipe is from quest i guess
proud lava
I got mine raiding Manufacturing Facilities
crisp fern
@grizzled apex @idle jay if every jump to a star might be considered influencing its actual formation (it only fully exists upon our warping there, not true of reality but technically true of simulation, or at least NMS' simulation), then every galaxy jump might be considered influencing galactic formations, which in some (many?) models involves black holes.
If this is the case and the presumption is that travelers seek to explore not only their galaxy but other galaxies, and influence the actualization of their formation (including their black holes), then the very act of exploration may be threatening the longevity of the Atlas (and the universe itself)
idle jay
Ahh. No wonder why variation is garbage. The Atlas wants us to be bored with exploring so we don't go killing it
daring bronze
@dusky gale crafting blueprints are learned at manufacturing facilities, aside from microprocessors, which are quest locked to be taught by the scientist
grizzled apex
@crisp fern yes,didnt think about that. Then it might be true that the Atlas requested us to follow its path rather than freely explore. However, I fail to understand how one travellers completion of the path may lead to it realizing its goal and extending its lifetime
And another thing I noticed. We have presumed that the atlas began to die since AR. What if it had begun dying since Launch? Telamon was attached to the last travellers exosuit when the Atlas feared it was dying and attempted to summon its creator by creating us, the player, the last traveller. So that might indicate the atlas already being corrupted or dying since LAUNCH.
grizzled apex
So something that the first traveller did.
Check the boundary failure lore written by telamon.
It shows telamon realizing about something being wrong with the Atlas even BEFORE the creation of the main universe we play in. Even before the rise if the travelers.
sharp fox
what happens if i let artemis die?
tall flint
Is this before or after talking to -null-?
sharp fox
after
tall flint
If you let her go, you do not leave her in a simulation and you do not get specific dialogue prompts from her later on in the storyline. Leaving her in the simulation gets you a few prompts specific to her, followed by a revelation about the death of ATLAS.
crisp fern
them
grizzled apex
@daring bronze check the wiki for boundary failiure
slender idol
damnit the quest progression in this game is confusing.
The Atlas Path mission either wants me to: Look for the next interface, speak to the atlas, or give it another Heart of the Sun depending on what/where I am looking.
Meanwhile New Beginnigns says I have all the time in the world...
Rememberance says I must "Find Heart of the Sun" which I gave to the Atlas. Do I get it back if I figure out the logical puzzle of speaking to it? or do I just make another one?
Do I actually need to speak to the Atlas at this point? By seeking out an interface? Does it matter which interface I use or are they all going to demand I craft a set of star seeds to activate the final pilinth?
tall flint
Them is probably a better call, @crisp fern I just swore there was a feminine pronoun used for them at one point and my (probable) misunderstanding has cemented it in my head. 😅
For the Atlas Path @slender idol , it repeated once for me and I just found another interface. I don't know if there's any benefit to seeking out further Interfaces, once you've done that however.
grizzled apex
@daring bronze
grizzled apex
Todays weekend mission text from mercury is... strange. If you can call it text.
crisp fern
@slender idol I think you've hit a bug tbh. Typically the Atlas Path is supposed to be a once & done thing, but occasionally it's been known to bug out and "forget" what you've done, allowing you to redo it and/or provide guidance to redo things
grizzled apex
Yea I had this too. Just decided to leave it at that.
slender idol
As for crafting rememberance - do I have to craft a 2nd Heart of the Sun? The recipe text ambiguously states "Find Heart of the Sun"
Joining a multiplayer game was possibly a mistake. I spent the first 30 minutes lagged out with a "A navigation point has been added" as it, idk what exactly, but basically it seemed to be walking my quest log forwards and adding every quest based POI, and trying to trigger every associated event. Then noticing I had the event and not doing it. But my fps would drop to 0 every 4 seconds each time the navigation wayppoint message refreshed. it took 30 minutes for this nonsense to stop before I could play like a sane person.
prime inlet
As for crafting rememberance - do I have to craft a 2nd Heart of the Sun? The recipe text ambiguously states "Find Heart of the Sun"
@slender idol yes, it's needed to craft Remembrance
jovial stag
or repair it 😉
hollow sluice
I've been to Atlas once, and chose not to reset the simulation. I've now changed my mind lol.
crisp fern
uhh, in that case yeah, you may actually have to go to the centre then, unless they've changed that interaction up. Think @jovial stag would know better than I about that
jovial stag
@hollow sluice have you finished the Artemis quest line? if so and you didn't make a choice there then you will need to get to the Core to move galaxies, and even though the game informs you that you can return later if you change you mind... you actually cannot as it's a one time choice.
mortal mirage
Can someone explain how anomolies work, do they populate from the current galaxy only or can you run into people who have moved past the euclid
unreal bobcat
they're trans-universal
mortal mirage
ty @unreal bobcat
hollow sluice
Yeah, I finished that. I have some bugs in my terminus list that are really eating at me, so I thought i'd have a go at a fresh start with all my ships and stuff 🙂
jovial stag
well all you need to do is get to the Core...
mortal mirage
Is there anything significant about being closer to the galaxy center other than people being there
jovial stag
not really just means you don't have far to go if you want to change galaxies as to do that you have to jump to the core
mortal mirage
can you jump back from center tho? I couldn't find any information about hopping galaxies, it seems like its a one way trip unless you use MP
jovial stag
yes, since Beyond you can now move to a new galaxy and as long as you make a base in the new one you can then go back n forth at will, don't make a base in the new one and when you return to Euclid you won't be going back...
mortal mirage
That is great to hear. So I didn't reset, does that mean I have to travel to center also do I lose the option to pick a universe color or whatever was originally offered
you know what, don't tell me, I'll find out later tonight... 🙂 happy exploring
cloud epoch
weekend item is hetaploid wheat btw
prime inlet
^ 60, iirc
dusky gale
whats better reach the galactic core first or do the atlas path ?
devout cloud
I was able to make and enclosed landing pad and it works
sour grove
So I reset, everything is broken, and the starship in on another planet. I cannot summon any of my starships for some unknown reason but i can summon exocrafts from the freighter
is this not supposed to happen?
grizzled apex
Apart from everything being broken and the exocraft summoning, I don't think so
Best bet would be using exos to roam around finding a trading post and buy a new ship.
slender idol
god. every time i travel to a new system my "Atlas path" wakes up again and re-adds itself to my mission logs. I thought I was done with it and could explore the galaxy in peace
and I can't abandone the @#$% egg mission either.
that I want no part of until there are more ship slots.
uncut harness
These are another Travellers, or rather their holograms
Speak to them and you'll be able to locate their grave, which will allow you to learn a portal glyph
modern lance
Also another question, what do the different orbs in the center of the universe do
What are the different choices
uncut harness
You mean the 4 orbs at the end of Atlas path?
modern lance
Yes
prime inlet
@modern lance do you know about the 4 different types of galaxy that exist in the NMS universe? Norm, Harsh, Lush, Empty?
modern lance
Yes
prime inlet
Norm = Teal orb; Harsh = Red orb; Lush = Green orb; Empty = Blue orb
the exact galaxy you will be teleported to depends on where you are at the time of the choice
always to the galaxy that's next first in the galaxy list of that type
Euclid is the first galaxy, Hilbert Dimension is the second
modern lance
So if I choose lush, what happens?
prime inlet
if i choose the Teal orb, i'll end up in Hilbert
if i'm in Euclid and choose the Green orb, i'll end up in the first Lush galaxy on the list, which is galaxy nr 10, Eissentam
modern lance
What’s the point of choosing them tho?
prime inlet
this choice was far more important before Beyond, that introduced the ability to maintain access to existing bases in previous galaxies, and the ability to Intergalactic teleport on the Nexus
if you refused the Atlas, your only way to go to Eissentam for example, was that you had to jump through all previous 9 galaxies, through their cores, to reach it
so it was a very quick way to get to Calypso, for example
the 3rd galaxy
first Harsh type
modern lance
So which is the best one to choose?
prime inlet
and like i said
modern lance
Or is it all preference
prime inlet
it's your game
like i said
at this point
it's not that big of a deal anymore
as long as you have bases in Euclid, you can come back even if you choose to reset into a galaxy type you dont like
modern lance
So if I choose green, I’ll be in a lush planet?
prime inlet
any one of those options will spawn you in a new galaxy, not planet
modern lance
So the green will make it easier to locate lush planets?
Sorry I’m a bit slow at this
prime inlet
that's right
the community gravitates towards Euclid and Eissentam
some prefer to avoid other travellers and stick to less populated galaxies
modern lance
So choosing the lush orb every time just makes finding lush planets easier and easier?
Because I’d like that
prime inlet
you only get this choice once per save
which is akin to the quest, it's not replayable
if you chose the lush orb, you WILL spawn in another galaxy, called Eissentam, which is a lush galaxy, which has a higher probability of spawning lush planets
prime inlet
i doubt that
modern lance
Why’s that?
prime inlet
Euclid is most likely the most populated galaxy
every new player that starts a new game, starts in Euclid
not every player will accept the Atlas, and not every player will even get that far
modern lance
Ah I see
prime inlet
if you plan on meeting others, i'm sure you won't have a problem with that if you reset into Eissentam
prime inlet
then i'm sure you will like lush galaxies
modern lance
So one last time just to be sure, I pick the green orb to go to a galaxy that has more lush planets correct?
prime inlet
Lush = Green orb, yep
prime inlet
@modern lance no; you should probably go read https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Traveling_to_Another_Galaxy#Cautions_for_galactic_transfer
pseudo swift
Has anyone changed galaxies before? Isn't it supposed to start you 700k+ ly from center in the other ones? It starts me 3.5k ly every time so far.. Hilbert and Calypso so far..
jovial stag
not far now only 251 to go 😉
prime inlet
i'd be so annoyed if that happened to me, i'd submit a bug report and start a new game.
desert tide
So if I choose to just go to the core I don’t get to choose what type of galaxy it is?
But if I do the artimus path I can choose but only that one time
modern lance
When you reset atlas, does your character canonically forget everything when they awaken again?
Like you yourself know everything that happens but does your character as well?
lyric oxide
after the reset you are tasked to go to the nexus and tell nada about it
so the character does remember
modern lance
But does nada?
Also did you guys finish the atlas path to get the seeds or is it better to refuse?
modern lance
So is it worth complying with atlas?
modern lance
Sorry I just finished the main quest and got to the center, now I’m working on the atlas path
Should I refuse or give it the seeds
modern lance
Or rather, what happens if I birth a new star
heady wyvern
Give it. The "make a star" thing is just flavor.
modern lance
So nothing will rlly happen?
heady wyvern
You'll receive a blueprint.
modern lance
And that’s all?
heady wyvern
Ya. Let's you see black holes on the map.
alpine blaze
So i finally got around to resetting a galaxy. I idiotically opted not to reset in my main save in euclid.
did a fresh save in survival and reset
TIL of all the repairs haha
pretty cool
the way the story ties back around is awesome
dusky gale
wow Reading all that im confused. i got now just two mission too. get to core and atlas path now 9/16
so i finish atlas path then i can change galaxy i want i use spare multi tool and ship. my base in freighter remains and i can teleport to all my bases in previous galaxy? or im wrong
idle jay
@dusky gale Yeah you would be able to do that
dusky gale
ok thanks m i just didnt wanted to loose all my cool bases
idle jay
Np
daring bronze
@dusky gale finishing the Artemis path puts you in a new galaxy, finishing the Atlas path gives you || seed of a star and Remembrance, both which add to your health, in addition to being able to see black holes once you do the end mission ||
@modern lance birth a new star actually makes a new star system. Once you do that, you get coords to a black hole which takes you to the new system
dusky gale
@daring bronze i see i have two quests now. atlast path 13/16 and The Core. so i finish atlas then. also when i open atlas v3 Doors on stations it wants that Remembrance
slender idol
Which has planets with thousand year old runs on it?
prime inlet
you gotta craft and install Remembrance, it's a exosuit tech
you need Remembrance to interact with those terminals, @dusky gale
and uh, it's not Atlas path that rewards the player with Remembrance bp
Atlas path rewards Star seed
dusky gale
dunno i do some quests talking with atlas and always craft new color Ball and the next one i need makes me able to craft it says
prime inlet
that's the Atlas seeds.
that's also part of the Atlas path
Remembrance is given as a reward for completing The Purge, a mission in the Artemis path
dusky gale
interesting because to craft it. it needs the next seed from visiting atlas. i do one more and see im on phone now xD
prime inlet
yeah, until you reach the last seed, Heart of the sun
daring bronze
@prime inlet I got remembrance for completing the atlas path a second time
I could be mistaken though
Or bug
prime inlet
i'm almost 100% positive, just double checked the wiki as well
btw, thanks for the tips on module placement @daring bronze , posted a screenshot in #nms-questions , wasn't a big improvement, but all the other systems got resorted and saw improvements as well
daring bronze
Oh shit noice
prime inlet
i would advise that yeah
dusky gale
ok thanks you
i got also glyph 15/16 trying find last one. last time i gaved 100 nanites to travelers and he showed me grave
prime inlet
lol when i did that again on pc, when i got to 16/16 i already had all the glyphs
yes you do
artemis path doesn't end with your choice about his fate
The Purge is part of the Artemis path
dusky gale
OKm i wanted be good for both so i let him die and told others lies that i tryd to save him 
i see cool then
heady wyvern
Perhaps we should devise some alternative name for the Artemis Path specifically to avoid this?
Because I see a lot of people stopping at the decision about Artemis's fate.
And Artemis has no canonical gender.
Just sayin.
dusky gale
uhh i must choose some new galaxie, now witch one 😄
@prime inlet you still here ?
so now refuse atlas or resset simulation ? what happens if i refuse
dusky gale
green red blue normal ? whats the deal
i read blue have more chance of abnormal planets like big moutains and caves ? but are also empty?
echo whale
Most are pretty empty... Heck.. Euclid is pretty empty
dusky gale
or you just travel beetwen the galaxies
echo whale
you can travel between galaxies
dusky gale
yeah lol
echo whale
i have bases in 11 different galaxies now
dusky gale
euclid i by luck find some planet Discovered by someone
oh wait
i tought you can only onec
👀
choose galaxy?
echo whale
if you take the teleporter in the nexus to other person's bases you will sometimes wind up in other galaxies.
dusky gale
ahh thats cool
so. it dont matter much what i pick then
as you can stay in euclid anyway
@echo whale thanks
echo whale
once you have gone to other galaxies, the list you see when at a portal will show the destination galaxy if different from your own.
dusky gale
thats nice, wish i discovered this game sooner lol
or maybe not, its not prolly better with all the patches 😄
Budullangr my new galaxy 🍾
heady fossil
what's exactly the point of traveling between galaxies, other than more exploration?
prime inlet
will probably start using @tulip tangle 's dead planets mod Dead Wreckoning when i do
that's it
exploration
heady fossil
i see
prime inlet
🙂
uncut harness
🙂
heady fossil
so once youve reached the center, the game becomes a grind
prime inlet
only if you look at it like that
dusky gale
what is a dead planets mod ?
prime inlet
@dusky gale playing on PC?
heady fossil
i mean, no more story except for procedurally generated quests sounds like grinding to me
prime inlet
@dusky gale game has mods, the one i was refering to adds alien structures, ruins and wrecks to Dead planets.
dusky gale
yeah this game is about fun .. fly rng, discover rng, build rng bases
or fisnish story and uninstall xD your choise
@prime inlet ahh make use of useless planets
heady fossil
id like dead planets to have more ruins, that mod sounds interesting
prime inlet
after a certain point, after you have everything you want, etc, all that remains is the game's true purpose, exploration. here's hoping galaxies become more unique in a near future.
dusky gale
good i read the guide link and used diff multitool / ship lol, tricky game
tulip tangle
@heady fossil The game was designed as an exploration experience above all else. That fact that its hard to see that in modern NMS is a huge problem imo
And the fact that it provides so little of its potential variety in that regard, a big old double whammy problem
heady fossil
i know that, i just think that after exploring so many systems in the 1st galaxy, from what ive seen from the variety in things so far does not bode well for the other galaxies
heady fossil
i'll probably start a permadeath run after i reach the core and get max rank with all the guilds/factions
tulip tangle
There's no excuse for it either like "performance". The variety aspects can all be modded in with zero impact assuming you dont place 40 million trees at once or something dumb like that
heady fossil
yeah, im assuming the algorithm to regenerate the universe is ran server side and then distributed? not run locally?
tulip tangle
After modding so much variety stuff myself I can only call its absence "laziness". I say that with confidence and a straight face
heady fossil
i think it's the overwhelming lack of mechanics present in the initial release of the game that made HG anxious to work on mechanics alone
and leave everything else by the wayside
tulip tangle
Yes, the backlash was all about crippling lack of an actual game underlying the generation, and it was so severe that HG lost sight of anything but appeasing the angry mob
heady fossil
combined with a lack of staff, im assuming itll take a long time before we get truly diverse planets, with unique ecosystems and climates
if ever
dusky gale
id prefer the game to have only 1 galaxy tho to have more luck meet someone by random xD
tulip tangle
Honestly, My logical but un-proven hope is that the attention is being mostly diverted to a new game with similar design to NMS
heady fossil
i doubt that
dusky gale
but im newbie not sure how it works meeting someone. like is the systém you in on the servers so others players in same systém are visible to you?
tulip tangle
Because NOW, we have 20 people working on something, and I cannot bring myself to believe that they are all responsible for the shoddy gimmick updates we get these days
heady fossil
try doing a community quest @dusky gale, you'll see soooo many random people
tulip tangle
@dusky gale YES but if you actually want encounters, make freinds and join them directly or go to well established hubs
dusky gale
yeah i mean without quest just exploring
heady fossil
Because NOW, we have 20 people working on something, and I cannot bring myself to believe that they are all responsible for the shoddy gimmick updates we get these days
maybe they're dividing it up in two teams, one for major one for minor updates
prime inlet
no no, i don't agree with the game only having one galaxy
dusky gale
okey i just wasnt sure how the online play works about seeing someone without a party or quest
prime inlet
but i also want more diverse and unique galaxies
and you might be right on the new game idea, Exo
i don't know what their numbers are right now, if they're still making money from the VR update or not
dusky gale
i tell you i skipped this game and played it first time 14days ago, its awesome , i was waiting for star citizen, i just tryd this from boredom and the game is so cool i didnt believe it , the exploring posibilities
btw why i got the atlas path mission again, it resets ?
dusky gale
prime inlet
hmm, but you finished already? you got the Star seed bp?
(also, able to see black holes marked on the galactic map)
dusky gale
i finished im in new galaxy, and i must install the remembrance, but the heart of sun dissapeared i must make it again lol ?
prime inlet
so you finished The purge and reset the simulation, which took you to Budullangr
but did you travel to the final Atlas interface yet? where you put in Heart of the sun? interact with the 9 seed chambers?
dusky gale
and i dont see black holes
yeah
i did that
and then it send me to some planet with portal
prime inlet
and?
dusky gale
and i reseted galaxy
prime inlet
what? no no
dusky gale
am i bugged ?
dusky gale
new star
and then i warped few times ended on planet with portal.. then it counted 16 to zero
after i entered
prime inlet
so you had to get both the Star seed bp, and the ability to see black holes when you selected birth a new star
dusky gale
i cant make it and i dont see black holes, and still got the atlas path quest lol
in a new galaxy -,-
i try restart game
prime inlet
craft a new heart of the sun
which means you need to craft all seeds again
same process
until you have a heart of the sun again
the one you had was consumed when you finished the atlas path aka birthed a new star
systems that have black holes are marked with a star-like marker on the galactic map, same as a save beacon
prime inlet
np
the atlas quest entry will probably go away once you install remembrance, but sometimes it will show up again, especially when near black holes, you can safely ignore it
dusky gale
alright, gotta get more indum 😄
@prime inlet ok i got it 😄
@prime inlet i talked with the computer on station behind the atlas v3 doors and the quest is gone now
prime inlet
not a problem at all, quest is technically complete
dusky gale
yeah i figured out, just wanted report i was sucesfull, thanks for helping 🙂
indigo smelt
@uncut harness The question is why? The Atlas has the whole sentinels going on, something to do with a scheme to get all races to obey?
Or just a pre-traveler or pre-sentinel prototype?
uncut harness
Atlas thinks it's dying and creates entities to help it survive it's inevitable death. Every race is created by Atlas.
Gek went a little rogue and wiped out entire species and destroyed home planet of Korvax. Sentinels were created to ensure that it would never happen again.
indigo smelt
Sentinels were created to ensure that it would never happen again.
What?
uncut harness
We are virus, Sentinels are anti virus.
Sentinels ensure that a species won't commit mass genocide as Gek did, it's why their procedures are so strict.
indigo smelt
What does that have to do with protecting some random Albinopearl or random factory?
uncut harness
Cause they have more value than you do.
You can be replaced (and have been previously if you follow game lore), planets and elements appear to not be so easily replaced.
indigo smelt
Sentinels also have access to an infinite number of resources.
So in the grand scheme of things, do the elements matter?
uncut harness
Yep, blame the Gek.
Sentinels can travel freely wherever they like too which in turn asks the question if the Sentinels you see are the same ones rather than a huge army scattered across the Universe, they just can't travel between like Nada and Polo can on the Anomaly.
Elements matter when you consider that the Atlas has been reset a hundred million times over and is working out a way to stop itself dying.
unreal grail
Turns out, the "final boss" of the game, is you're stranded in space, with your entire fleet against you. Anyone else get that far yet?
uncut harness
@unreal grail what quest is that in
uneven nebula
sorry what
vivid bridge
uneven nebula
what quest is this in, if this is real
daring bronze
@uneven nebula it's not real
daring bronze
I mean lore-wise, the end is pretty interesting
unreal grail
^_^;;;;;;;
elder sequoia
how many atlas stations do i need to go to? already went to 5
elder sequoia
jesus ive only done 5 and it feels like forever
slender idol
depends on how much of a rush you are
indigo smelt
I am confused, what does 16 16 16 16 mean?
indigo smelt
Ooh, I saw this on the planet during one of the artemis missions.
Next time, View -> Screenshots.
indigo smelt
@zinc birch Is it possible It's because I can reach places I shouldn't, or otherwise cause further glitches in the system?
So in some way, we are the cause of boundary failures?
zinc birch
I honestly don't know the true lore behind the boundary failures and gates .
My only guess is that they're remnants from previous worlds because the logs are always during Atlas's "purge " type protocols .
I'm sure someone has done the digging to find the true lore though
indigo smelt
Those gates remind me of the gate terminus system, but that is probably the shape of it all.
zinc birch
They do look uncannily like warp gates. It doesn't help that the places we find them are referred to as "boundary failures."
Maybe it was an attempt to warp to another universe like how we do, but instead brought the "essence " of another universe onto that planet . Creating "otherworldly " celestial bodies .
indigo smelt
Someone created a pastebin of all boundary failure logs: https://pastebin.com/rmkYyz7D
Not sure what "[-------]" means, but [Artemis] Fits.
zinc birch
Those dashes are just used to imply that the data was removed.
This is pretty cool regardless, if not a bit concerning at a couple . "I will wear them in time " comes to mind .
I think it's the logs of who would become your exo suit AI. With us sharing their perspective .
But in the end we, the player, are inevitably in control.
"Or are we?...." as it goes on to tease.
indigo smelt
That would be the case if the amount of dashes is random, or if the term is used in a different way each time.
If you want to just imply that data is removed, you mash the "-" button a random amount of times, but each time the same number of dashes is used.
supple inlet
@indigo smelt That's interesting - i've seen some of those messages,but for me the [---] are replaced by various names
heady wyvern
Hmm... just reading the logs, the "[-------]" seems to end precisely as ||Telamon becomes the player's suit AI.||
And from what I can see, the [-------] is because ||Telamon could not say the Atlas's name.||
indigo smelt
The atlas being enslaved or destroyed doesn't make sense as long as Telamon exists, or as long as anything in NMS exists(From Fifth Encounter):
ANALYSIS: Disturbing fable. Destruction of world, artificial intelligence partially modelled after earlier forms of [-------] destroyed/enslaved, until this intelligence triumphs and [-------] is worshipped by organic users of this technology. Hypothesis: [-------] experiencing breakdown.
heady wyvern
artificial intelligence partially modeled after earlier forms of [-------]
I feel like that entry refers to the Korvax and the First Spawn.
The Korvax were enslaved by ancient Gek, and the Korvax - I vaguely recall - used nanite blood to mollify the next generation(s) of Gek - the modern Gek.
indigo smelt
Modify how?
heady wyvern
Mollify.
The Gek were softened into traders, rather than slavers.
A side-effect was the Gek being introduced to Atlas-worship
indigo smelt
Did the Korvax use nanite blood to turn the Vy' Keen as well? I remember the daggers have nanites in them.
heady wyvern
The Vy'keen weren't really involved in that incident.
heady wyvern
But remember that pugneum refines into nanites, and that Vy'keen have waged war against sentinels.
The daggers are sacrificial.
indigo smelt
True, but I think that the Vy Keen are sort of turned now?
heady wyvern
Yes, but I think that was more because Hirk took things over in the past.
indigo smelt
Hirk slew Nal, remember. Well, Unreliable Narrator doesn't make it easy to figure that one out.
indigo smelt
Although the boundary failure log elaborates on this:
SCENARIO: Lifeform designates ‘Vy’keen’ (2) approach the INSTANTIATION [‘Great Monolith’].
Silence / Acceptance of [-------] / Schism [Quasi-====] / Korvax [Eradication/Enslavement]. Vy’keen war emerges where individuals ‘Hirk’ and ‘Nal’ believe the other to have heard nothing. Repeated imagery of ‘six cries’.
ANALYSIS: Scenario involves murder of ally and culture becoming obsessed with destruction of artificial intelligence [Cautionary].
Semi-survival/retrieval of entity ‘Nal’ shows further instance of self-doubt by [-------]. Troubling factor: repeated pattern of [-------] silence and self-mythicization.
indigo smelt
Does Atlas have another name?
indigo smelt
Because the amount of dashes is consistent, like you would expect the same word to be there. Or maybe it's the word for Atlas in the language of Atlas?
heady wyvern
Perhaps.
But there's a passage that makes me very certain about this.
I stand next to a broken ship on a strange new world, and I can finally say its name. ‘Atlas’, I croak. ‘Connecting Atlas...’
(Ninth Encounter)
heady wyvern
I don't believe the Atlas has ever really referred to itself by name.
Sometimes I dream of the Traveller. I will wear them, in time.
But this... I wanna talk about this.
indigo smelt
Is it possible that Talamon refers to the traveller as atlas since we are a part of the atlas?
heady wyvern
Maybe.
Maybe we're just another thing to be simulated.
But recall that Telamon is kinda helpless as-is.
indigo smelt
True.
heady wyvern
They can't do anything, they can only speak and witness.
Perhaps...
Perhaps they dream of actually being able to come fully into the simulated reality of the Atlas.
To be able to act as we do.
indigo smelt
Being an AI attached to the suit of the traveler must suck.
heady wyvern
I mean, exotic-hunting is tedious as-is...
indigo smelt
Yeah, but Talamon gets stripped of modules and stripped of knowledge with each iteration.
And doesn't have any agency whatsoever.
heady wyvern
I feel it, each time you save... I smell it, each time you seal us within that awful darkness.
This is just another cherry on top, innit?
This seems to imply that Telamon is still cognizant when the game is off...
grizzled apex
Yep. NMS just went full undertale
But honestly theres something in those logs that intrigues me.
What does telamon mean in one of entries when it says that "beings claiming to be from the future talked to the traveller."
heady wyvern
That... I took interest in that as well.
indigo smelt
Have you ever talked to a traveler on a space station and heard them tell you they are in pain and are saying the world is ending?
heady wyvern
Yeah. Two possibilities:
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The aforementioned travelers, whose relationship with time seems tenuous at best
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Nada, Polo, and the Anomaly, who seem to exist beyond spacetime.
grizzled apex
Telamon knows of the existence of other universes.
Yeah. Two possibilities:
The aforementioned travelers, whose relationship with time seems tenuous at best
Nada, Polo, and the Anomaly, who seem to exist beyond spacetime.
@heady wyvern
I believe its nada and Polo, though Telamon calls them liars, saying that time travel is impossible
And Nada and Polo never say that they are from the future.
The travellers are glitches from another universe.
The no mans sky world is made up of several universes. Each with a lone traveller at first
heady wyvern
Older universes might contain elder beings...
indigo smelt
I thought them from the past, since Nada said he knew Artemis personally.
grizzled apex
Yep
heady wyvern
It's implied that Artemis, Apollo, and -null- don't really exist on the same plane that you do.
indigo smelt
Perhaps Nada has seen the same glitch we have?
grizzled apex
I thought them from the past, since Nada said he knew Artemis personally.
@indigo smelt
But it appears that nada and Polo can travel between the universes. Nada even says that artemis might have travelled to a PLACE where they had not met them, implying that they had seen another universe where they had met.
heady wyvern
That there was some error in the Atlas that allowed them to communicate with you at all.
grizzled apex
That there was some error in the Atlas that allowed them to communicate with you at all.
@heady wyvern
Honestly I disagree that the atlas began dying in 1.3. I believe its death began since 1.0
indigo smelt
1.0, what does that mean?
heady wyvern
Yes, but its death must've progressed to that point at around 1.3.
grizzled apex
Telamon was attached to the last travellers exosuit. The PLAYER exosuit. The last traveller was deployed when the atlas thought it was dying
heady wyvern
It's gradual.
grizzled apex
That means that the atlas was never fully functional
heady wyvern
And the expanded multiplayer that came with 2.0? Another step towards the inevitable.
grizzled apex
The Atlas had began dying. The only time we might have seen a perfect atlas could be the pre release gameplay
In a sense, HG have tied up the launch and pre release drama and explained it with lore.
indigo smelt
Nice.
grizzled apex
Damn.... this games lore always gets me. Why haven't there been more theories?
I wish we had a theories channel
indigo smelt
This is the theories channel?
heady wyvern
This is the spoiler questions channel.
grizzled apex
Yep
heady wyvern
About late-game quests.
grizzled apex
This
heady wyvern
And datamines
grizzled apex
I feel like there ARE players who want to discuss the deeper lore and implications of it.
I wish we had a theories channel
I suggested this a while ago.
heady wyvern
But, in regards to the Atlas, I feel that the implication is that it was in worse shape in 1.3 than in 1.0 - that's why the Atlas Rising quest line could work.
indigo smelt
So what does 16 16 16 16 mean?
grizzled apex
Yes, it's a gradual tale of the fall of the Atlas told through different updates.
heady wyvern
Basically, the Atlas is apparently due to die within sixteen of its world's minutes.
grizzled apex
@indigo smelt
Many things
The atlas currently has 16 minutes of operational time left.
The NMS ARG had an AI called Loop16.
That was The Atlas
The void egg has a price if 1616 units?
heady wyvern
But the Atlas runs impossibly fast.
grizzled apex
Many LS components have 1616 as their price
heady wyvern
So, within the simulation, it may as well be centuries before that happens.
Perhaps longer. Perhaps shorter.
indigo smelt
Well, depending on how slow or fast it is, 16 minutes of operational time can be an eternity inside the simulation. Did HG just canonize quests not having a time limit?
grizzled apex
Well.... additions like MP are an indication if the Atlas's death
heady wyvern
Certain quests do have a limit. Not many of them. But it does kinda posit on the meaning of time between the two nested realities.
indigo smelt
Only the ones with an actual timer right?
heady wyvern
Yes. I recall there's one with the Exocraft Specialist.
indigo smelt
Yeah, but there is no instance of a quest having a time limit without an explicit timer right?
indigo smelt
It does leave me wondering, who built the atlas?
heady wyvern
In the Atlas's physical reality, no time would have passed at all.
But time still passes within the simulation.
You catch?
heady wyvern
And most of these quests deal with entities inside the simulation. Not many of them deal with the Atlas itself.
So, the time differences don't really matter for many of these quests.
indigo smelt
Yeah, thus my rhetorical question.
heady wyvern
Thus, there's no real explanation for most of these quests having no deadline other than "game mechanics."
indigo smelt
So HG canonized quests having no time limit. HG is pulling an undertale. Especially with characters capable of breaking the 4th wall without actually breaking the 4th wall.
heady wyvern
Not necessarily.
Because simulated entities would, theoretically, experience time at the same rate you do.
heady wyvern
The Atlas simply runs so fast that the entire backstory of the Triad Races could've reasonably taken a fraction of a fraction of a second in the Atlas's physical reality.
grizzled apex
It's a simulation designed by creatures capable of Space travel, so it must be pretty advanced
indigo smelt
Simulations of universes of sentient beings are pretty advanced.
heady wyvern
And we don't know what the tech level of the Atlas's creators is.
And we don't actually know how big the "physical" Atlas is, anyway.
Or how it works.
indigo smelt
Yeah, could be a matryoshka brain for that matter.
Maybe the atlas symbol reflects its physical form in Atlas’s reality?
grizzled apex
I doubt it. Some Telamon logs say that the Atlas has a growing sense of self greatness and portrays itself as something grander I think.
And if memory serves right, loop16 was the eventual Atlas, right?
grizzled apex
I participated in the Arg and season 2 as well. Where is the role again? 😁
Kinda wish I had gotten a steam key cuse i realized my pc can run the game now.
grizzled apex
Yea it was for Atlas Rises
limpid locust
Yeah I wasn't interested in NMS until Next was announced
Was still salty from the drama at launch
I was hyped asf tho when Next was announced, so much so I even started my save on Atlas Rises
(But thats because the Next launch was delayed by a couple of hours)
spice gorge
What is the mission this weekend?
lyric oxide
very tough to find
true thicket
how many hexaberries?
Or is it hexplate bushes? Because six of those would be kind of a dick move.
fickle mulch
bushes
muted basin
indigo smelt
Go to a boundary failure planet, you will find them there.
grizzled apex
Damn this has to be the most interesting dialogue if these missions.
I mean tethys has a friend who went missing, HG is teasing a pre release trailer and the boundary failiure is TEMPORARILY stabilized by 1 traveller, and needs many more to fully fix it.
indigo smelt
What are you talking about?
crisp fern
The flavor text everyone skips, probably, lol
grizzled apex
What tethys says to you before you leave the anomaly
The flavor text everyone skips, probably, lol
It's supposed to be a storyline so I keep it documented 😁
crisp fern
Oh I know, and I dig that you're doing it, but I know the vast majority of people skip it because it has no real impact on what you're doing in the mission (hence it being accurate to call it flavor text)
grizzled apex
Yea that's true to be honest. I want to compile the descriptions and stuff so that we can perhaps get a continuous story
lucid berry
what's needed for this weekend's mission?
lucid berry
oof rarer resource than usual, guess I gotta find a hexagon planet
lucid berry
oh thanks!
prime inlet
np
indigo smelt
Are there any factors contributing to what kind of crashed ship you find? I want to upgrade to a B-class fighter.
I find nothing but substandard c-class or haulers.
upbeat trench
indigo smelt
How exactly?
supple inlet
System economy affects likelihood of class (1* is mainly C/B, while 3* has much higher chance of A/S)
System race affects distribution of ship types (Gek = hauler, Vy'keen = fighter, Korvax = explorer)
So for a B-class fighter (or better) you're looking for a Vy'keen system with at least 2* economy
indigo smelt
That's weird, considering I am in a vykeen system.
prime inlet
doesn't mean that only fighters will spawn
indigo smelt
Are living ships worth it?
prime inlet
also, any class can spawn on any economy tier, you can be extremely lucky and get an S class spawn in a t1 system - had that happen.
i like them, but there's nothing they can do and others can't
indigo smelt
Oh, they do look ugly but I wanted to know why everyone and their brother has a living ship.
prime inlet
well, hyperdrive can be charged with chromatic metal and not warp hypercores or cells; other ships can't do that
they look ugly in your opinion, i'd put it like that
plus, it's a quest
people either get them because they like how the ship looks, or because they want to have all quests done
stats are OK
many disregard them due to low storage cap
(i remember when many disregarded exotics for the exact same reason, low storage)
everyone likes to have the new shinies
indigo smelt
Interesting I guess, but I can produce more than enough anti-matter as it is. I even have a source of oxygen. If I had an automated source of ferrite, not pure or magnetized, I can produce virtually unlimited warp cells.
prime inlet
pure ferrite + oxygen = rusted metal
not automated but
rusted metal -> ferrite is slow though, so slow
indigo smelt
I could find a planet with rusted metal hotspots perhaps.
The other option is megnatized ferrite hotspots.
zinc birch
I use a rusted metal "factory " and have rooms for refining into ferrite dust, 1:2 as mentioned by someone earlier .
Then having refining rooms for pure ferrite and magnetized ferrite .
That way you don't have to set up for the other 2 and come to 1 location for all 3 resources (or more if you got other stuff going on.)
indigo smelt
Wish we could get some automation going.
old wraith
God was anyone else's hexplate bush farming mission at the nexus glitched?
They weren't showing up at all in the scan visor. Only because some really good guys had the idea to leave comm stations where they were that we even had a chance to do the mission.
It took 4 of us (2, if you count who actually helped) ten minutes to get all 6. Actual cancer
prime inlet
i didn't collect them on the community planet, i got them in another planet, but they were showing up in my scanner
old wraith
Shit. Well lucky you then
Just a heads up for anyone who might run that quest. Bring lots of thruster fuel and look for comms stations. People put them where the hexplate bushes are.
spice sail
I need help finding these hexplates
I been traveling for over 30 minutes still only 1/6
prime inlet
they're rare, i'd say
spice sail
Prob just gonna abandon thi sone
old wraith
Look for communication stations. People put them where the hexplate bushes are. That's literally what I typed before your comment.