If the food actually gets implemented you think we are looking at a potential new survival game-mode?
#nms-spoilers
iron idol
iron idol
I would understand if people want the survival part of the weather conditions and suit energy, but not want food/water upkeep
Like Subnautica has
rough copper
I actually hope they overhaul how weather/hazards work
remote charm
Or maybe they will just add food items to life support so it doesn’t change a lot but gives more diversity for refilling the tank
cobalt sundial
i hate using the jet pack to do small jumps
@remote charm i think that'd work best but probably be too much cause creatures are so abundant
rough copper
I would honestly prefer just a hunger bar over that lol
remote charm
Lol that might be what they do
cobalt sundial
but why add another bar for us to manage
remote charm
As long as they make survival a tad bit easier to start
rough copper
Well they can change how the other bars work to balance the game lol
remote charm
Else we go hungry on top of dying on a 8.1 rad toxic world feet from our ship
rough copper
Food would probably only be critical early on, then later maybe you can craft super energy bars or something
Upgrade your body to have better metabolism :p
remote charm
Lol
cobalt sundial
this is why we need a trailer
remote charm
The only thing they won’t be able to explain how this works for a korvax
iron idol
You want to see a spaceman jam a steak through his helmet? 😛
remote charm
Likely through an ingestion tube after liquefying the food
I would love to see a timer for getting stuff back in survival instead of the permadeathequse lose everything
rough copper
We aren't actually Korvax..
remote charm
Minecraft gives you 5 real time minutes to get your stuff
rough copper
The appearance modifier says in game that it's just a projection/hologram/whatever
remote charm
Oh I missed that
iron idol
@remote charm In minecraft you don't have to travel through 7 galaxy's to get your items back though 😛
remote charm
But ya a 5-10 minute timer on planet would be nice for when you die so it gives you enough time to find the death marker from the last ship or waypoint you visited. And for space (if the ship crashes) you get a marker you have to find the crashed debris and if you respawn on a station or something you have to pay an impound fee for your stuff
It just makes survival more like survival without feeling like it’s permadeath when you accidentally do something that kills you
And it gives a reasonable way to get your stuff back intact
And if you fail to do so then it disappears for good
surreal dagger
Quick question people
I am currently in the last mission, I think, of the main story
Where I have to choose to find the last Atlas station, keep following the Atlas path, or exploring the galaxy freely
I assume that, if I "finish" the game going to the center of the galaxy, I lose everything I did, right?
Because the universe restarts itself
mighty rampart
@surreal dagger you basically go to a new galaxy and have the option of what kind
and yes, once you go there its essentially new game +, you lose a lot of stuff and you cant go back to the old galaxy so you lose access to all your planets, stations and bases
I can't remember if you can take your freighter or not, though
crisp fern
you do
crisp fern
yeah
really about the only things you lose are your bases but that makes sense considering you're going to another galaxy or whathaveyou
jovial stag
@surreal dagger Have you completed the Atlas Path?
and have you also completed the Purge?
or are one or both still on going?
uncut harness
@crisp fern is it better to just stay in euclid?
Since it haves the most players
And are planets on another galaxies different?
Or same old shit :/
nice profile picture
Thanks
violet narwhal
The ratios of different types of planets are slightly different in different galaxy types, but yeah, nothing new, just more or less common.
crisp fern
@uncut harness imo it's better to leave
but i don't play NMS for other people
and even if i did, base performance is such a drag it would put me off
uncut harness
That's true...
silver cedar
soooo I just got to the core.
and all I get, is everything fucking broken?
no reward other than a new galaxy?
silver cedar
well if I knew everything was gonna break I would have stayed near the core in the one I was in.
crisp fern
well for what it's worth you've an entire new galaxy less explored to explore
silver cedar
usually the other quests give you more health or the ability to see black holes or some shit.
I'd rather explore the other billions of planets I was around in the first place.
silver cedar
110 hours
crisp fern
you can get there faster if you focus on it
silver cedar
^^^
bold pike
yeah prob
crisp fern
i'm guessing Bolt Action just gradually made their way over
silver cedar
I focused on the other storylines first.
bold pike
i am aswell
crisp fern
Btw do you still have a manual save before you made the dive Bolt?
bold pike
ive just been kinda using black holes tho
silver cedar
I autosaved but not manual.
crisp fern
Hmm, what platform?
silver cedar
PC
crisp fern
Okay, so maybe back up your existing save and load up the manual save to see if you're still in the previous galaxy
I recommend backing it up just so you don't somehow mix something up
silver cedar
Right.
I think I might just quit the game now.
because even after I fix absolutely everything I bet I am far as fuck away from the centre of this one too.
which will take another long ass time to get to so I can join communities
which is what I wanted to do immediately after.
crisp fern
=/ Wish ya had asked before, we coulda warned ya, but same time, game should be clearer about what that decision entails
uncut harness
Yeah, kind of like in Dark Souls how it makes sure you are prepared for NG+ instead of just throwing you in their if you beat the final boss
mighty rampart
@bold pike btw you dont have to go to the centre manually, if you do the main storyline it also sends you to the centre in a way, but with a choice of what type of galaxy you want to go to
peak prairie
@silver cedar manual saves are made when you interact with planetary map beacons and craftable save points/beacons.
If you haven't done either of those since moving, you might be able to reload from the manual save back in euclid
bold pike
o ok thx @mighty rampart
crisp fern
@muted flame the trick is you've been creating every star all along the way anyway
uncut harness
@coarse dune - Both options will send you to a new galaxy. If you are choosing to go to a new Galaxy I would purge first and have the Atlas Stone as a backup option.
violet narwhal
If you're on PC, make a save backup before going to a new galaxy, in case you regret it.
coarse dune
@uncut harness never thought atlas as a back up
uncut harness
Solid and fair advice.
coarse dune
@violet narwhal i know i will regret, but i need to do it any ways. 90h still on first galactic i have to do it
violet narwhal
Yeah, so back up saves and make a manual save (available on console too), do the switch to see what happens, get achievements, etc, then load old save.
coarse dune
i have been working to make a productive base and it is quite done, but using the manual save wont give me remembrance
should portal coordinats could work to get back as well?
violet narwhal
No, no legitimate way to get back once you've gone to a new galaxy.
Portal coordinates are within the galaxy you're currently in.
coarse dune
i see, that what i thought. i never used it befor
violet narwhal
You may be able to visit your bases in the old galaxy by joining the game of someone else who's still there, but you won't be able to stay.
coarse dune
the base it self is the less problem.. more i thing about what galaxy would more interesting
i am on surv mode
violet narwhal
The differences between the galaxies themselves are only minor differences in the probabilities of different biomes.
coarse dune
it would be smart to share coords to my old base, so the others can use it harvest plants etc?
violet narwhal
Make sure you upload the current state before you set off for wherever... And yeah, if you like.
coarse dune
cool
@violet narwhal okey, one last Q. do i loose matterials and upgrades from exocraft after i change galaxy?
violet narwhal
Nah, you keep everything like that as far as I know, just stuff in your current ship that gets damaged, as far as I know, so switching to another ship with no upgrades or that you don't care about first may be a good idea.
uncut harness
whoops
shy copper
Are there any Beyond spoilers?👀
peak prairie
The best use for shuttles tbh
uncut harness
So I'm at what I think is the end of the Artemis questline and I'm wondering, does it have a similar result to the Atlas questline?
I've got this choice to 'seek the final interface' or 'explore the galaxy' - will the first option result in my getting trapped in Hilbert Dimension when I get to the center?
I don't want to leave Euclid
dark arrow
Explore the galaxy will allow you to leave Euclid.
jovial stag
@uncut harness seeking the final interface will give you the option of either resetting things or not and if you choose to reset then you get the choice of a galaxy type to move to, selecting explore the galaxy will allow you to do just that... if you get to the galactic core then you can jump to a new galaxy.
uncut harness
GLASS protocol is probably just about a million things tbh. simulations designed with the side-effect of other simulations arising from them, 2311T transported across multiple versions of its soul, perhaps somehow the atlas is using this facet of its engine to empower some of these systems, and the Sentinels are abusing it to reflect disconnected code in an alternative cosmos
lofty bough
Okay. I started playing this game as a resource grinder and creative building game. I did NOT expect it to give me decisions that wrack me with guilt no matter which way I chose.
This Artemis decision is awful.
lofty bough
I killed him and feel dreadful.
uncut harness
But consciously is the "better" option, I chose to put him in the machine because I couldn't bring myself to kill him.
lofty bough
I could barely do it. I got emotional when I did and I rarely get emotional with games.
Stupid game.
Fuck you, NMS.
lofty bough
That's how I came to the decision I did ultimately.
uncut harness
If it's any comfort, he looks sad if you save him.
uncut harness
Absolutely.
violet narwhal
I think I "saved" him, but never got anything after that.
vague bone
artemis has the big gay
lofty bough
Yeah, that part of the story got me good. I'm gonna go back to building out my base.
Where the stupid Korvax can go back to making me feel pathetically sad too.
vague bone
🤷🏻♂️relatable
uncut harness
putting artemis in a simulation is no different to how he lived before. he would've been just as lonely when he realized we couldn't actually see each other in the world he used to reside in
the only drawback is that he's stuck in a one-star system and there isn't anything beyond that, apparently
jovial stag
But... the Anomaly can go anywhere, to any galaxy so therefore not limited to a single galaxy?
uncut harness
any universe
any universe throughout the universe
the only one that exists
I think you misread what I said
the actual simulation terminal simulates only one star system
Oh
he did
OH NO
so artemis, a part of this simulation that nada beckons, sees one solar system. but yeah, the anomaly cuts through the one-galaxy universes across simulated cosmos
He was talking to another person
someone asked about the anomaly
wait they were
somewhere
oh
yeah
WAJT
The person that asked the anomaly question asked it in #nms-questions
AAAaa
FUCK me
either way they were informed of what I had meant or what the anomaly does so we're fine
Yes
wraith nimbus
I thought Artemis was a woman this whole time
uncut harness
I should've said they were female, because they are if you consider gender in the first place
but you aren't expected to because they are alien anyway
wraith nimbus
I actually thought I was mistaken about it when I saw everyone calling them a guy. I wasn't trying to be an SJW
uncut harness
no it's all good
I was just saying you're right if you throw gender in the equation
mighty rampart
hey I've not done this yet: if you select 'explore the galaxy' in the beginning, does it let you pick up the story mode later on or you're permanently locked out?
uncut harness
It puts a cooldown on the trigger if I remember rightly.
So it will ping again after a while but a decent while.
mighty rampart
ah ok
peak prairie
What if corrupt sentinels are laylaps copies
merry sky
what is a spoiler?
peak prairie
Laylapts
wraith nimbus
@merry sky something that can potentially ruin another persons experience of a story
Like "Dumbledore dies in Half-Blood Prince"
violet narwhal
Very little in the game has male and female as such, only very few animals. I think most if not all named characters in the story are never specified as being anything.
uncut harness
I thought Artemis was female too
...no x) Artemis is a male
Well you never know with the Altas collapsing in 16 minutes and being converted into a mind arc, things can happen
uncut harness
The writer for the Artemis path and some extra lore confirmed she was female if you consider gender on Twitter
Artemis is the name for a female goddess, which was their reasoning, like pryslyn stated
Random message.
peak prairie
So I suppose that means Apollo is male
uncut harness
yeah
uncut harness
@uncut harness each simulation has what is nicknamed a multiversal hierarchy where each traveller is individualized into one galaxy that composes all of the universe they reside in until they go into the center and reset the one they are currently at
which just replaces it with another galaxy, with new life and new planets
the reason why the 1.3 storyline happened was a malfunction in the ATLAS' code to contain each traveller separately as its death encroached upon its homeworld, in the final 16 minutes (specifically the ten min mark, really)
so theoretically you were never meant to realize you weren't alone
so... basically they're just glitches of real travellers bleeding into your reality. so... I guess sort of like a hologram of a different universe?
yeah there are two collision events spawning from one central source. the fall of the walls of the multiverse, and the falls of each simulation layer as everything basically molds into a singularity, in a sense
all because of a black hole swallowing the atlas whole. this is just my interpretation tho
yeah, an alien timeline as the game says it
the atlas can simulate all facets of reality so in a sense it can sort of delay time
that's what I've always pictured
np, but remember this is all as I picture it personally
"Why should I be? We all have to die some time. And what time will be more interesting than this? We'll die like no-one's ever died before!"
apollo is very optimistic about the way they're dying, we should all be more like them
peak prairie
Obviously the atlas is pulling a Dr. Zoom flashpoint thing
Speeding itself waaaaay up
To accomplish its goal before it dies
errant frigate
question: if i choose to reset the simulation, and then join my friend in the starter galaxy, save and disconnect, can i now use teleporters to travel back and forth the two galaxies?
peak prairie
No
uncut harness
DO YOU NOT LIKE GEK TIDDY?
covert ibex
I am gek
mystic igloo
pinching the nipnip
covert ibex
Oh my god
mystic igloo
/troll?
covert ibex
I hate you
crisp fern
fuck food
nocturne zephyr
food is good
covert ibex
Delicious
peak prairie
@601787093630582796 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c8/American_Pie1.jpg/220px-American_Pie1.jpg
...did Leon get booted?
Or is discord being dumb
Latter
@crisp fern
uncut harness
So I'm finally getting through the Atlas Path and I've noticed each new interface seems...more ragged.
uncut harness
people stating--if anyone does now, at this point--that 2311T is some sort of facet for Loop16 may actually be standing on some ground that could imply more likely than not
- 2311's heart-rate was in the 200-range for a very long time, which... I think... is very deadly for a human
- loop16 ignored 2311 during the disconnection event and ambiguously told us she was "unable" to interface with the dreamer
- 2311 (likely) started to exist around the time Loop16 was created.
- the game's statement regarding "Vessel [16] emptied," could relate to Loop16 emptying her form and disconnecting from NMS.
- the TRAVELLER protocol allotting the induction of the CREATOR which led to the Travellers being created could be loop-hole'd by Loop16 where she portrayed herself as a test taker to get into her own dream. This could be done in two ways: intruding upon an existing human, or taking control of a remote headset, or... something
- if all else is likely, it is also likely the initial corruption that nearly totaled the Myriad Low Orbit Satellite whose disruption trapped all the dreamers in the first place could've been Loop16 going into her own dream and befuddling the simulation's core systems. after all, none of the issues revolving around W/ARE truly occurred until we loaded mercury.XXXX (No Man's Sky.NEXT).
but the only issue I foresee with this... if this were Loop16, 2311 was deleted before you got into 1.3. she was still alive, so this disconnection could not be related to her death
additionally, there was a time during season 2 in which loop16 started stating logs from Travellers from inside of the game. could it be this connects? if she was inside of the game-world, she would be able to hear... see... and potentially say these things.
also... last entry, I promise... 'Please listen to me carefully: W/ARE technology is groundbreaking and must be protected at all costs. It is a major step in simulated environment and will have tremendous implications on our future.
Don't get me wrong, I don't condemn Atlas' action to contain the situation, but you must help me resolve this peacefully. A lot is at stake."
It seems she was--even now--unnaturally optimistic about W/ARE's future. I remember thinking this, but it wasn't clear why. perhaps she wanted it kept online so she could continue to plunge into No Man's Sky, and delve deeper into the dream? Not certain if I believe in any of this, but it’s still a possibility, I guess
wispy vortex
what is the purpose of the traveller in the game and who is the atlas?
uncut harness
wiki gives a lot of info but does skip over some things like WT
the atlas is a supercomputer/engine created to determine the nature of reality by simulating it, sitting placidly upon a planet. after the creator of the machine informs it that it has been replaced and their species will be leaving this homeworld, the ATLAS is left on, by some sort of guilt the creator has if they were to shut it off, as they were supposed to from the rest of their kind. but after it realizes it will feel remorse, it leaves it there. the one thing they do before they disembark to the skies and leave the ATLAS behind is a scan initiated upon them that places them within the system, and this creates the TRAVELLER protocol (and subsequently the Travellers). the atlas does this to always remember who made it
for a millennia it imagines a world, which leads to another world, and another, which lead a cascade of nested simulations that go on practically forever. every atlas gives birth to another atlas, as every simulated reality the atlas does to discover its own always includes a species within creating their own simulation, beginning a near-infinite loop of realities. our reality is one of these, and we do the same, which creates No Man's Sky
when the core atlas begins to die because of a black-hole, it spawns in the Travellers so it does not have to be alone in fear, creating their species we see in the game (which is a duplicated essence of the creator's soul). the player is the latest one of these beings. in Waking Titan, where it focuses on our world, there were twelve test-subjects that had been trapped to a post-VR entertainment and work device called W/ARE, which ended up encasing their consciousness within a broken satellite. during this time, No Man's Sky was a game available on it, and so the dreamers more than likely bled into the simulation. one of these dreamers was left behind, named 2311T, and you probably play as them.
this is all just how I read it in the game, so it's not 100%
uncut harness
@uncut harness
Things are happening?
ohsheeet
Hmmmm, it seems to be just that. Still mostly secret what we're getting.
uncut harness
So i finished the atlas path and want to go to Eissentam but don't know which one to choose
jovial stag
its the end of the purge that gives you the option to go there... the 4 choices 😉
the Atlas path just goes to the next galaxy in sequence and gives you the ability to see black holes on the galaxy map, once you install the thing it gives you to your suit
and when you do get to the end of the Purge its the Green one that takes you to Eissentam
mighty rampart
ship's screen on the shielding stats doesnt display the ship hologram, right?
dense plaza
I would pay 1billion Quicksilver to look like null. or get Artemis' Armor
late tusk
They need new armors
latent pebble
What if atlas is an allegory for hello games devs and all the people playing ed
thonk
soft delta
Harry Potter teams up with Batman to save the atlas from Red Skull.
peak prairie
@latent pebble there's an actual Hello Games in the game reality
They used the Atlas/NMS code to make a game for people to play...
latent pebble
So when you get that message saying "you left me. Don't lie" etc
I interpreted that as being from atlas
uncut harness
is the Nal being the actually-good leader still in the game in the exocraft quest?
kind narwhal
uncut harness
2311 must've been in the sim for quite a while
1.3 was summer 2017. Emily produced 1.3 at the tail-end and then left. 2311 was in 1.3's storyline from the beginning line, meaning it must've been put inside somewhere after 1.3's induction or perhaps before. then, a year later, we discover they're a dreamer. So... that's like a year with the W/ARE headset if taken literal
mighty rampart
does that mean you killed yourself 🤔
tardy orchid
Moved to Eissentam
mighty rampart
congrats!
mighty rampart
huhhh
quiet dagger
Do the other races (non travellers) have free will or are they just puppets for the Atlas?
uncut harness
they seem to exhibit free-will. the only true limitation I've noticed is that particular subjects (like portals or 16) mess with their brains since only the Travellers can conceive specific material. in any case, they are still influenced by the ATLAS' systems, like all else. the very notion of their violence towards each other and mystification of the ATLAS itself by species like the Vy'keen are said to relate to what the ATLAS feels, to add to the subject
peak prairie
I believe it's usually either a subtle effect or the ATLAS/subsystems pushing a full override, indicated by red dots
uncut harness
yeah, probably.
also, if they didn't have free-will, nada and polo wouldn't be ducking in an anomalous station not meant to exist, I would feel. both aren't travellers and made a personal choice to seek refuge in a glitch
and I think specific parts of the lore mention other species realizing they're in a sim, who may not be travellers
peak prairie
Wouldn't be a very good reality Sim if it constantly ordered things
Just annoyed that the code 16 quest killed a bunch of NPCs in my home station
uncut harness
all that being said, the travellers are scanned--not simulated--for a near-perfect replica of the creator's soul, I would presume. so that's probably why it can handle conceiving the specific concepts that other species cannot. it's not really 'more real,' I would say. maybe... more existential? lol
and then under the same protocol arrived the dreamers, who also became amnesiacs lost in an endless cycle. kind of the same backstory of the travellers--of a differing origin, put into the sim. only that they're human (or our humans, at least).
violet narwhal
What about your overseer?
uncut harness
yeah they specifically mention the repetition of reality, right?
violet narwhal
Yeah... There was something someone said that was seemingly atlas-related, but I can't find it now
You may leave, but do not be deceived. We are all prisoners, even you. If you abandon me, you'll find another Gek with a different face but the same soul, the same words... We are paired to you throughout time and memory, your servants, your teachers!
Leave me. You'll never understand. That day I stared into the world of glass and saw the space between things, the dark heart of reality. I will wait out my days here, until I am reborn again. Until we repeat all this, in a world beyond these worlds... As I repeat myself, even now!
uncut harness
yeah definitely free-will
it seems more and more to me that as the sim breaks it will probably lead to more simulation 'accidents' like this when reality slowly reveals itself as nothing but lined code
maybe more lore? maybe not. abyss was the last update with lore, I think. I'm not thinking visions added anything textually
violet narwhal
Nada, I think Physics simplistic. Chemistry arbitrary. Hypothesis: simulation. Galaxy not base existence. Explore but beware red orb. Find flaws in model, exploit, find truth. Yes/no?
uncut harness
yeah, 1.0 nada... I believe?
violet narwhal
It's still in the files, if so... May not be used though.
I'm pretty sure there was one line from the overseer or one of the base NPCs at least talking about being controlled by a red orb, or something.
And then there are the things the farmer says, suggesting the overseer isn't really a gek...
And stuff suggested they have been provided for you by some outside power...
uncut harness
a scene with the overseer (at least in the files) states you feel a dull crimson ache while conversating with them, so that may be at least around what you are picturing here
violet narwhal
Ah, that may be it.
uncut harness
but a lot of the files still have leftovers, yeah. like an entire mission from pathfinder-era, I believe, where you work with a vy'keen to eventually prove NAL heard the cries of the monolith and not hirk, hence hirk's haste to fight the uncontrollable (for the most part) Sentinels
violet narwhal
As they discuss their leaving plans, they watch the ceiling carefully. It is unclear what they are looking at. Suddenly, %NAME% grabs me, telling me not to trust the Overseer, that their fellow Gek may not even be a Gek at all. They seem to suggest that their food was somehow drugged...
But this can't be true. I've shared meals with the Overseer, and I am fine. They would never do anything to harm any of us. The Overseer only wants what is best.
A moment later the Farmer stops speaking. They assure me they were just joking, and beg me not to speak of this matter again.```Yeah, this is stuff I remember from in game though, not from the files.
uncut harness
yeah I think I also remember that part
was the Nal stuff in 1.3 and above?
I think they ended up taking it out
uncut harness
"The Monolith I discovered proves that this history is a lie. Nal was honoured with a vision whilst Hirk had been met with only silence, and in its jealousy Hirk murdered Nal."
violet narwhal
But this was pre-1.3...
Looks like the exocraft technician stuff is all about that, at least according to the lines... I don't really remember it well enough, and don't seem to have screenshots of it, so not sure if it's still the same.
crisp fern
the downsides of updates & having people repeat stuff because starting anew feels safer, ya just kinda gloss over the stuff you've done before...
uncut harness
no no I know nal existed since 1.0
but the specific part in which he was outlined as the true hearer of the monolith didn't come to fruition until pathfinder, I believe. but then they took that version of the questline when they redid them all to fit artemis' path--I think?--so 1.3 area. it's been a while, so I may have a skewed perception in that department
tender spindle
Who would win? ATLAS or Skynet?
mighty rampart
lol I just did the exocraft technician quests yesterday
His script hasnt been updated for Next and above
He still says "Detritium" when you're supposed to acquire Magnetized Ferrite
idle jay
E
uncut harness
ah, so hirk being a liar still exists?
tender spindle
Yes
mighty rampart
yeah that still exists
uncut harness
@violet narwhal Hey! I saw that text, it’s still canon
violet narwhal
Yeah, that is, but I think another part I don't have screenshots of is the one in question.
severe spoke
I’m at the step of space anomaly where I need to do extreme survival
How do I know if a planet is extreme
severe spoke
How do I check that when it’s not showing on my hud
last moon
unless it might list storm crystals
severe spoke
I’m in the middle of a game cyclone on an irradiated planet
last moon
I don't understand. It will say "Extreme" on the HUD the whole time you are on an extreme weather planet, not just during a storm.
severe spoke
So I’m probably not on one
last moon
This is from memory...LOL, but it says that on the ....bottom right corner, near the life support and hazard bars. If you are on an extreme weather planet, you will know. You will see that on the HUD, and hazard protection will deplete rapidly even when not in a storm. With a storm, you can't last 20 seconds.
More like maybe 5 seconds.
severe spoke
I’ve been to one of those
But I can’t remember the planet or the system
I found one
It’s got the big red warning the corner
Can I just dig myself a hole and sit inside it for the quest
mighty rampart
yep
if you dont mind, then dig in and afk the game overnight to get not only the quest limit but also the achievements too
uncut harness
0
last moon
That's where this pic and many others when I first started playing come from. Sitting in a hole is one of my fondest NMS memories.
crisp fern
"you have an entire universe to explore, what's your favorite moment across the stars?"
"sitting in a hole"
violet parrot
LOL
nocturne zephyr
dig a hole dig a hole
crisp fern
So i just realized that these aren't stained glass...
nocturne zephyr
They're monitors
crisp fern
mmhmm
Every shot I've seen of them has been from more of a distance with them looking more like static scenery
nocturne zephyr
An angry CoD player who was disappointed at launch must've been on that planet
And another for each of the planets
mighty rampart
from what I interpret, all the anomaly planets are actually electronic items but broken
save for the bubble planet
and that they were all par of 1 thing that basically dictated planet flora and fauna generation but because of the Atlas dying those planets are essentially corrupted
so now we have broken machinery and bubbles of blood over there and also the boundary failure structures that were a part of it
lethal dragon
Not sure if this belongs in this chat because it’s not exactly spoilers but it’s lore but I haven’t seen anything about the lore of the biological horrors, I means these things look like artificially made creatures because of their appearance and the same look in every system and and they cause some systems to be abandoned due to being overrun
proud gale
Lmao can't wait for leaks coming in and this channel getting hyperactive like the couple days before NEXT release
l e a k
bleak talon
leakspin
slate cove
Should I let Artemis die or live in a sim?
uncut harness
That's on you, you don't gain or lose anything. Saving Artemis will make him a permanent structure within the anomaly where Nada and Polo are. More of a statue, minimal interaction.
uncut harness
Artemis already died
You just make an echo of him that's not really alive
But just an echo that responds
Him her
Whatever
uncut harness
Should I ask about the atlas, the sentinels or the travelers
mighty rampart
doesnt matter either way, choose whatever you are most curious about
mighty rampart
The awakenings and base archives mission quest is actually you, the player in an older atlas generation, right?
Especially when you start doing the Atlas seeds quest
steady rose
the quest the purge, where you have to make your way to the center of the galaxy, last quest?
jovial stag
Yes, you also get the choice of staying in Euclid or the choice of 1 of 4 galaxy types to move to
jovial stag
Oh! Dear.
steady rose
i assume theres no way to make a different choice, or hitch a ride to the center to finish this story up?
crisp fern
@uncut harness ||what if this is the new center of the galaxy?||
uncut harness
hmmm that could be interesting. like a replacement of the final atlas station in 1.3? a place people connect at the end of each galaxy together?
definitely seems like a center of some sort. also very mechanical
crisp fern
didn't -null- suggest that the center itself held the real Atlas or somesuch?
given that the Interfaces themselves are not that as much
uncut harness
yeah. the version of the station you visit holding each possible galaxy to choose at the very end is the final station I think, the real one at the center
crisp fern
Well currently that's just another Interface, so far as I'm aware
Yeah, that one used in the Artemis Path is just whichever one happens to be close, if I'm not mistaken?
I don't think you end up portaling to it, but it's been a bit since I did the Artemis Path
uncut harness
you have to use a portal to access the one in the story and there are a few lines just before you approach the very end that suggest you have to plunge yourself through the atlas at the center. I just figured the very last interface-which isn't really a station--is the one they keep mentioning in the story. plus that's the only one you interact with the ATLAS and get engine-esque responses
'The Atlas is dying. It wants me to reset it, to plunge myself through its interface at the center of the galaxy. But to do may reset this world, my life, all that I know. I do not know if I can do it."
crisp fern
Hrrm. I definitely never got the sense of it being terribly different from other Interfaces, but that sounds more in line with what I recall about the leadup to it, where it seems like it's weirdly sort of encouraging you to last minute bounce through the Atlas Path
I think that's where I got it confused
uncut harness
for a while I didn't realize it either, not sure why
crisp fern
I never read that interaction as doing that, I read it as pushing me to go to the center following the Atlas Path, because otherwise up to that point you can entirely ignore it
I guess in a sense I read the reset option as not being a true reset without having first gone through the Atlas Path
crisp fern
Despite the fact that obviously you can "reset" it and end up in whichever galaxy
uncut harness
yeah it would be a lot clearer if every time you 'warp' to the center it took you to the choice between galaxies again.. and honestly a lot more sense
that final interface*
crisp fern
But like, as it's written now, yeah, I dunno, I just never really parsed that as having taken me anywhere near the center since before then I could so clearly see myself not at all near the center
violet narwhal
Maybe make a special real system in the centre, with an Atlas station to give you the choice or whatever.
uncut harness
I would appreciate Gmr's idea. some sort of community hub at the center in which all players who make it to a certain point can converse, see other players, and do many things before getting to the other side. and then... with it being more mechanical... could be a lot more 'emphasized' that this is what really embodies the ATLAS or something
and it would empower players to meet perhaps by allowing them to make groups before venturing into a new galaxy
also I could've/should've used this quote, "I know what I must do. All paths have led me there, each portal has brought me closer and closer... I must go to the center of this galaxy. It is the epicenter of the glitch.
I will say goodbye to my friends if I can, and then I will confront our creator. I will find out what happens next."
then you go to the final atlas interface
crisp fern
Expand, checking this, while it does refer to it as Atlas, it also refers to it as yet another Interface...Warning: Artemis Path ending spoilers: https://youtu.be/-dIqFK0crt0?t=1193
uncut harness
"They could not face death. They did not want to leave their life, so they took the lives of others, retreating to the heart of the ATLAS at the end of each simulation."
"I stand before the interface of the Atlas, before the center of all things. I stand before the death of existence. "
I dunno, I'm going back and forth between myself but I'm pretty sure that's what all of these logs keep implying
"The center – the center of each galaxy – it's the ATLAS. It's – kzzkkt – all else just interfaces – kzzkkt – all else a shadow of its might –"
"Please, if you go through the center, if you do what I did – it will reset everything." then you get the choice to reset to whatever galaxy in the final atlas interface that rests directly in the center
idle jay
I think this would be much cooler than the new structure being a new space station
But if that is the case then what would happen if a ton of people go there?
Then again I guess it depends on how the multiplayer is handled
uncut harness
16 player lobbies maybe? similar to the orb situation
just hopefully with playermodels
and hopefully 16. could be 8, or 4 still
crisp fern
The phrasing there really throws me though.
idle jay
Im certain that they would all show up as character models instead of just you and three others
crisp fern
"The center – the center of each galaxy – it's the ATLAS. It's – kzzkkt – all else just interfaces – kzzkkt – all else a shadow of its might –"
idle jay
Dont forget that we see is likely not the entire structure so there could be alot more
crisp fern
It may simply be a little technicality of the interaction, but even this: "I stand before the interface of the Atlas, before the center of all things. I stand before the death of existence. "
That goes around the interaction technicality and explicitly just calls it an interface, maybe a poor choice of words? But having so clearly emphasized that word, interface, in a prior line, I can't help but think the choice was deliberate
uncut harness
yeah I think cutting through the portals though make it seem like they were trying to make it apparent that this is a different type of atlas, not one you get through normalized stations. so the real 'heart,' per se
crisp fern
It's such a weird thing though.
Like all in all it literally is just the same old Atlas Interface interior but with the reset options in the chamber
The line itself calls attention to it being the interface of the Atlas, yet immediately goes on to be like the center of all things
Yet -null- claims the interfaces are just shadows
uncut harness
"It wants you to go to the center. It wants you to be with it. Go there, Traveler-Friend. You... you can try to stop it resetting itself."
crisp fern
I mean I get it I guess, maybe it is really meant to be just that...But that makes it all the more anticlimactic
At least the Atlas Path doesn't pretend to be the center through its Interfaces, supposing that's what's happening here, lol
idle jay
If this structure were to be the true atlas and it was at the center then I guess what they could do is turn the center into a system and when you go to it the only thing there would be the true atlas and it would be much bigger than the previous ones
They might change some of the stuff so it would make more sense
crisp fern
Honestly the more I think about this the more my own stupid headcanon made refusing the Atlas make more sense, because it really didn't read as being the center at all to me...Especially since it's not actually even going through a portal that brings you to it, but a bizarre teleport
uncut harness
yeah I love the concept of gmr's "new center." I would really enjoy that. gives more of a reason to go beyond understanding story if by atlas path or 1.3
idle jay
This gets me excited
uncut harness
yeah you go through a portal, then it counts down, and then you teleport to the atlas
kind of weird
crisp fern
It being a teleport that takes you to it + having to jump through several star systems before reaching that point, + I'm pretty sure being encouraged to pop by the Atlas Interfaces, really helps unscramble how I even came to my thinking on it, lmao
uncut harness
yeah i was not a fan of being told to warp 16 times
idle jay
You'd think the atlas where you decide on a new galaxy would look much different but it's not. That's why I like the idea of the new structure being the true atlas
uncut harness
i get it. but it was kind of annoying
I didn't explore while I did that, I just kept warping over and over. then recharged. and then warped
crisp fern
Like maybe they meant for you to take up the Atlas Path during the Purge, so they'd better align so you wouldn't get this sense that you weren't really being taken to the center?
crisp fern
Or maybe I'm just a dumbass for maintaining a conceptual distinction between the "Center" and the True Center
Although, @violet narwhal I think you've mentioned it before, maybe, doesn't resetting net you the achievement for going to the center?
idle jay
It does. I think
violet narwhal
You must be thinking of someone else, I think.
crisp fern
Mm, might be. Probably @versed jackal if anyone else. (Regarding resetting getting one the achievement for reaching the center)
violet narwhal
Possibly just another oversight on their part, rather than signifying anything...
uncut harness
you get an achievement at the end of 1.3 for using the terminals to choose a galaxy? seems pretty conclusive then, to me, with that
as in the sense that it was intentional, given the situation of the story at that point (getting to the 'true center'). not an oversight, I think
crisp fern
well atm we're trying to suss out whether you do
uncut harness
I have a way to check
never made it to the center except by 1.3's story. I'll see if I have the achievement
violet narwhal
If you get an achievement, that is supposedly for reaching the centre, by actually doing the reset thing instead... It could be that it was originally intended to be when you reached the centre, but actually awarded when you got to a new galaxy, and when the reset stuff was added, it wasn't changed... That's the kind of thing I meant.
crisp fern
and survival, now that i review them
uncut harness
lol that is so peculiar
crisp fern
I mean it's more of an achievement in those modes
uncut harness
why is there one for them but not normal
crisp fern
'cause it's more of a pain in the neck, lol
uncut harness
yeah but when the game came out the center was such a huge part of the game. surprised before the extra modes came in that they didn't at least put one in then, with how long they thought players were going to take to get to it
also, side-note, if the structure in the trailer is a new center, maybe this will give new players incentive to go instead of sitting it out. this would be by allowing players who make it to a center of each galaxy the option to roll back to a previous one, perhaps?
because when people get to the center, they need to reset at least by atlas path, and most will probably choose reset if they make it by artemis. so there isn't a point
violet narwhal
I doubt the thing in the screenshots is that hard to get to... It'll be something easily accessible... Maybe one per region or something.
crisp fern
well this has definitely been something some of us have been pushing for, an intergalactic travel option
idle jay
What annoys me is that they still haven't improved the center. There's been such a big focus on it yet it's not so rewarding besides going to a new galaxy with less players. You'd have to give up your bases in the previous one and the only benefit is keeping some things. I would like for them to make the center more interesting and meaningful
crisp fern
If this were led to via the story @violet narwhal it would be something everyone eventually got to, and if the place one ends up at the end of the Artemis Path was meant to be the Center anyway...
But yeah, this was more of a goofy thought on my part since no one else was even seeming to consider it
violet narwhal
I'm guessing it's multiplayer related, and possibly a big part of the "Online"...
crisp fern
or maybe that's what they want us to think 👀
but ultimately if anything were to be really beyond about this Beyond update, I can't help thinking general space improvements, of which intergalactic travel would be a big one, and is something I have to imagine they've been seeing at least some part of the community engaging in, with the only two major complaints being the inability to jump back to previous galaxies to help out friends and that the generation between galaxies isn't varied enough
violet narwhal
If they really are going to go for a "wipe", they could get rid of the galaxy concept altogether.
crisp fern
And at the heart of all that intergalactic travel, is the Center...
That would honestly kind of kill me if they did that tbh
idle jay
When I see the update name I think of them going Beyond what people are expecting and they add tons and tons of new stuff
crisp fern
And would be kinda weird given they only just got around to adding galaxy variants, unless those existed prior to Atlas Rises and we didn't realize it
idle jay
I would be fine if they removed galaxies with the wipe. But if they make the galaxies more worth while going to then they should keep them
It seems so pointless going to a new galaxy. There is nothing special about them besides those variants that only change the frequency of certain things
uncut harness
yeah more variation between them would be great
it still seems weird to me the atlas path and artemis path exist simultaneously. only one really gives you clarity. the other is significantly more vague
but I'm not saying that to imply I want one to be removed
you seek atlas interfaces to see more of the atlas, but yet only actually understand what it is through the artemis path
idle jay
Yeah
But like I said. If they make the center and galaxies more meaningful then I would be good with that
slow yacht
That one moment when you enter a portal and you exit into space
idle jay
💀
uncut harness
is that the final teleport, the one right before you get to the final interface?
or is that just packed in with the rest of the times it takes you to places like the exotics
crisp fern
a leap into the dark i think
in terms of the mission
but anyway yeah i'd rather see them keep & improve galaxies than ditch them. That would be even weirder for a space exploration game to suddenly remove other galaxies to explore
idle jay
True
crisp fern
I can never seem to remember, Atlas Interfaces in Creative Mode, yes/no?
idle jay
I don't think there were any in creative mode
idle jay
Just saw this reddit post and this is another interesting possibility
/r/NoMansSkyTheGame: <NekoKun67> [Discussion] What if....... ● https://redd.it/cmkyvf
visual mirage
hmm
idle jay
Hold on
/r/NoMansSkyTheGame: <NekoKun67> [Discussion] What if....... ● https://redd.it/cmkyvf
What the heck
It won't show the entire thing
But still you would be able to see it in #nms-reddit-feed
Not a bad idea
idle jay
Yeah I see the similarities
visual mirage
I do wonder if those boundary failure rings lead to a hub. They are large enough to fly through.....
and that opening at the end is confrmed large enough because landing pads
idle jay
visual mirage
holy crap
idle jay
This is similar
visual mirage
That's more than similar....
idle jay
Yep
visual mirage
Opening at the teaser shows the exit spinning, and it looks like it has those pieces on it
idle jay
As far as I know the boundary failures don't really do anything right now besides look cool
idle jay
Well the new structure either being a pocket dimension that you go into via a boundary failure or the structure being the true atlas it would be cool either way
But if it's just a new space station then that's fine
I just didn't think of these two until now
sharp pasture
so what even are those rings? do they do anything in the game rn?
oh.......i just read up.....nevermind
visual mirage
The rings on the exotic planets
https://nomanssky.gamepedia.com/Boundary_Failure @tepid iris
coral nova
They aren't very scarse at the moment tho
tepid iris
this is definitely similar to the portals
coral nova
Seems weird to have a portal every 100m on a planet
visual mirage
Doesn't that look like the opening to the structure though?
tepid iris
well don't have to be scarce, you can add waypoints on the galaxy map & POIs in the system if you need them
coral nova
and what about the 2 lines going through
visual mirage
And maybe they'll make them scarce in the update
coral nova
yeah they surely look similar
tepid iris
plenty of options 😛
visual mirage
For sure
visual mirage
lol
tepid iris
and if I mention that feature, I see in my mind the potential code that was used to make hide muted channels 🙃
coral nova
Seek help
tepid iris
nah I'm just a super pro dev 😛
I wrote something like that at work, took aprox 5 - 10 minutes 😛
thanks to React & Vue
(and Discord is in React!)
mighty rampart
I was hoping flying in those rings would do something cool
tepid iris
warning extreme collision damage detected
mighty rampart
ok so I've seen abandoned space stations before
I didnt know it had a locked door each side
and uh what the fuck did I witness
urban star
Who called my name?
rough copper
Click the @ symbol near the search bar to see your recent mentions
uncut harness
I wish I could hire you so I could immediately fire you.
jovial stag
interesting... being able to sack the sackless 😉
tepid iris
wait who? me? @uncut harness
silent dune
Regarding the game pre Beyond, should I do Artemis Path once before I get too invested since presumably I will lose access to any bases I have built following the conclusion?
icy citrus
You will have a choice- don't have to lose access to your bases at all
silent dune
If the Atlas is refused, can the simulation still be reset later on by visiting the center?
icy citrus
No - you get one shot at the choice
Going to the center will do something, but it isn't story based
silent dune
Cool thanks!
icy citrus
No problem
silent dune
I’m assuming Atlas Path can still be completed if the Atlas is refused?
icy citrus
Yep
blissful fox
Okay so basically the RED SQUARE and the GREEN SQUARE are authentication things for the player. The door is locked, like a retina scanner. It is also placed on the machine when exiting the cave entry in the new trailer
onyx prairie
Looks like
velvet egret
|| for the purge mission, do i lose all my player data? what really happens?||
icy citrus
||You reset the universe and either change galaxies or stay in the same one. You will damage all tech in your suit, multitool and active ship - but won't lose anything as far as assets go. If you change galaxies, you will lose access to any current bases.inventory is protected, anything in your vaults, ships etc. will still be there||
velvet egret
|| but if i stay, i would just need to repair things and nothing changes||
icy citrus
Correct
velvet egret
okay, thanks
icy citrus
😃
onyx prairie
Oh wont you stay, just a little bit longer
icy citrus
Now your daddy don't mind
jovial stag
@velvet egret if you stay... ||there is nothing to repair as nothing gets broke, stuff is only broken if you change galaxies. And with either choice you will also get some tech for your suit||
icy citrus
Oh nice - I always leave - didn't know that
uncut harness
guys i just rewatched the trailer, do you hear something like "moving water" between 22-25sec ? There is no water on screen and i don't remember if there were water sound before when you were next to water source
icy citrus
It did sound like water there
copper wharf
||what happens if I go into an another galaxy and my friend who has not done the story before tries to do so? Will he end up in a new galaxy with all his quests messed up? Also what happens if I join him? Will my progress just get wiped because I moved a galaxy back or something? 
||
mighty rampart
the rest of the quest can be completed there too, the game prompts you in the mission log to reset it by pressing the middle mouse button on the mission
||unless you specifically mean the atlas seeds mission||
mighty rampart
what's up with the traveller race btw? some of them look normal, some look like hologrames
mighty rampart
yeah
so basically those travellers are suffering the same fate, right? but artemis was in a different universe altogether while these travellers I can find the graves of
unless I misunderstood the story
uncut harness
Basically yes, they've existed before but not presently. They are the echo of themselves.
mighty rampart
ohhh ok
and I can see them thanks to Atlas
icy citrus
Thanks to the boundaries breaking down
uncut harness
Exactly right. Atlas is broken/corrupted so data is not working as it should be.
icy citrus
Poor thing is crying
uncut harness
😭
icy citrus
Abyss will fix it
mighty rampart
ahh got it thanks
icy citrus
They will merge into a better Atlas
mighty rampart
Abyss in the lore is like, the other side of Atlas?
uncut harness
Yeah, something as powerful as Atlas.
icy citrus
described as a power similar in nature
mighty rampart
hmmm
icy citrus
Able to subvert even the most dedicated
mighty rampart
honestly the abyss quest line was freakier for me
maybe because I was getting the subnautica vibes
like yeah I'm reading the logs of drowned people
uncut harness
I hated how abruptly it ended.
icy citrus
Maybe there will be an expansion of it
icy citrus
Community events are a terrific way to open up more lore - even if it's just bite -sized pieces
mighty rampart
yeah considering the abyss is deep this time
I went to a full water planet and I was really disappointed it was barely deep
uncut harness
@quiet dagger god of whatever simulation the atlas was made in. We know the atlas’ official origin is that specific universe. And we know the creator mentions that their own universe is probably a sim. So it’s probably lapetus, atlas’ father, a computer above the world the atlas is officially made.
The Atlas isn’t alone because the figure is a lot like itself and creates realities the same way. Someone mentioned this a long time ago but never elaborated and thought it was just the one and only god, I think, without mentioning the simulation texts. When I reread parts of the lore I started to see Greek roots and thought about lapetus
quiet dagger
Oh nice
crisp fern
Tbh I would hate lore/narrative tied into community events, especially if those events aren't looping & disallow one to play through at their own leisure
uncut harness
Yeah I can see that being a qualm. Maybe the missions could be replayed or begun at any point
crisp fern
2 things that kill me in games: a story that doesn't allow me to go at my own pace with sudden, arbitrary roadblocks (timegates/level gates), and a story I can miss because I was busy with life (time-limited events)
slow yacht
Which simulation should i reset. Red blue green or light green?
slow yacht
I want to go to a new galaxy tho
outer pilot
Is the race Traveller the same as the Traveller the player is referred to as?
violet narwhal
Travellers may also be classed as anomalies?
sinful saddle
yes
dense needle
Question about reaching the core: ||the closest system I find is just about 3k LY. If i free run toward the core I can kind of see a star near it but I can’t tag that star. Do I have to find a blackhole? Can it be any blackhole or a specific one? Spoiler||?
icy citrus
Just make that the filter in the map and follow it to the end
violet narwhal
Make sure your warp fuel is full too.
violet narwhal
And no, once you're ~3k away, black holes won't help any more.
icy citrus
Closest system will be right around that
Your warp distance doesn't matter there though
dense needle
Ok I could t seem to tag anything to jump to. I’ll try again
icy citrus
You don't tag anything, the line is what you want to follow - you can't manually select the center
But you can follow the line and then interact
jovial stag
@dense needle this is what @icy citrus means... from this system you can go to the centre (2990'ish Ly) in one jump just move along the line
icy citrus
Thanks @jovial stag that's it exactly
jovial stag
I wish finding the image was as easy....
icy citrus
Lol
gentle nova
Heyo, I have some questions about the Abyss questline, I'm not sure I understood perfectly
The crew just got hit by something and then the water began to raise so they lost their freighter underwater and all that stuff but why do they begin to hallucinate and have the same dreams ?
icy citrus
There is an entity mentioned in game lore that is similar in nature to the Atlas, called the Abyss
It's noted for being able to subvert even the most dedicated to its will
My theory is that is what's happening in those logs
gentle nova
Oh okay, didn't quite catch that, thanks !
icy citrus
Just a theory, but I think it makes sense
dense needle
@jovial stag @icy citrus got it. Thanks !!
icy citrus
👍
tacit dirge
Does it reset if I go to core?
icy citrus
You go to the next galaxy
Breaks all your tech
But you only lose your bases - any ships, inventory freighters etc come with
Storage units are protected as well, their inventory will be there when you build them again
dense needle
Going to the core means leaving?
stoic mango
eissentam represent
icy citrus
Yo!
outer pilot
I had taken an interest in the story of NMS in the past because I had never planned to play it. || From what I remember the universe is a simulation and it is breaking down and will stop in 16 minutes but those minutes are on a different timescale so from how I see it the two choices either mean that the simulation will end in an unknown amount of time or you escape that by going deeper into more simulations.|| Is that about right?
uncut harness
In the most simple terms, yes.
outer pilot
What's incorrect about that?
uncut harness
Nothing at all really. The jump to another galaxy is assumed to be after the simulation has reset rather than diving deeper.
Like, a new OS being installed.
spark rose
Ok i have question what galaxy is better to chose?
icy citrus
Depends what you are after, the 4 types have different spawn chances for planets
Imperfect is like the starter galaxy, pretty balanced
Abandoned and you will see more dead worlds
Extreme or Harsh will be more dangerous planets
Lush for, well Lush
spark rose
there is 5 galaxy if i am correct
spark rose
sry i mean 5 types or maybe i am wrong but there was like some on the right side with white collor or some
but maybe i am wrong i was not play for longer time
but there is some galaxy type that have more people on it?
spark rose
you can stay there as long as you want or you need to chose?
icy citrus
You can stay as long as you like
spark rose
nice:) then i will stay i like it more but lots will change with Beyond;)
icy citrus
spark rose
i cant wait to play with VR
bronze saffron
guysss, i need help for choose galaxy, is the first time sooo i dont know what to pick, btw i want to ask if the update "beyond" said something about put all galaxys together or not
icy citrus
Not all the galaxies, but they are adding a multiplayer hub to make meeting easier
rapid crane
I am surprised that nobody has a leaked disc this time around
icy citrus
No physical release until September
bronze saffron
but if i choose a galaxy, if i connect with my friends, i cant go back to my base until i go play alone again
?
icy citrus
Correct, if you are in different galaxies
Right now anyways, Beyond may change all that
bronze saffron
so better i wait in the main universe
icy citrus
I would for now - just a day away
bronze saffron
👍 perfecttt, tyy
icy citrus
😃
spark rose
Tomorow every think will change:)
slate fulcrum
Anyone knows at what time the update will be released?
icy citrus
Nope
slate fulcrum
Damn it. This wait is killing me.
icy citrus
You could always farm a bit for the units, but hold off on the purchase
outer cedar
are any leaks out yet? (is there a chance for leaks at all?)
icy citrus
Nah, no physical release until September, leaks are extremely unlikely
Unless some journalist flips out
Even then, they haven't played the whole update
slate fulcrum
Wait, physical release for what, the beyond update? There's gonna be a physical release for that?
icy citrus
Yeah, ps4 exclusive
slate fulcrum
Ohh. Alright. Thought there was just gonna be a download for the update across everything.
icy citrus
Yep
slate fulcrum
And they're still gonna make a physical release? Odd.
icy citrus
Same as next kinda - everyone can get the update no purchase needed, but there was physical also, not just for Xbox
slate fulcrum
Welp, it's just like skyrim being re-released over 1000 times. If people are just gonna keep buying it..
icy citrus
Yep
winter radish
Skyrim doesn't have that many editions
slate fulcrum
I didn't think i needed to specify the glaring obvious that that was an overestimation just for the fuck of it.
winter radish
There's the base version, the Legendary Edition (includes DLC) then the Special Edition (aka remastered) and VR version
slate fulcrum
But this ain't the place for any more skyrim discussion; it was just an example of how NMS also "re-releases" physical copies with each update and people are gonna keep buying 'em.
outer cedar
@icy citrus Oh! didn't know the physical release doesn't release until september! Leaks will be highly unlikely then, indeed. Thanks!
icy citrus
👍
tribal minnow
Beyond comes out tomorrow
winged meadow
What happens during the atlas quest if i choose to die?
dus my game just wipe itself?
violet narwhal
Is that even a choice?
winged meadow
i cant post scrreenshots here and i dont want to spoil the screenshots tab
icy citrus
Dm it
Answer how ever you like
It's one of the questions it asks you @violet narwhal
jovial stag
@winged meadow nothing happens if you choose to die
no matter what options you choose you end up at the same place
winged meadow
yeah figured, the story guides you with 'false' choices 😮 you go through the same story
icy citrus
It's to show you who is boss
violet narwhal
Ah, yup, I see.
icy citrus
They all have, go for it
manic imp
does Reset wipe my game?
icy citrus
Refuse and stay in Euclid
No, but you will lose access to your base
Takes you to another galaxy
Your choice of type
It will also damage all tech in suit, tool, and active ship
Ooof
manic imp
does my base building quest progress remain? and all my other missions?
icy citrus
Progress is fine, assets are fine
uncut harness
What’s the advantage of going to another Galaxy?
icy citrus
Storage units are protected, when you build them they will have the inventory
Same for ship and freighter and your inventory
Planet spawn chances are diffferent in the 4 types @uncut harness
Lush
Harsh
Balanced
Abandoned
You will still see all types, just depending on the galaxy as to how high the chance is
uncut harness
Oh I see. Thanks m’dude!
manic imp
excellent info, thanks!
manic imp
so i imagine its good to stock up on resources before doing the jump. is it easy to find atlas to do the galaxy switch later? im guessing the new one is closer to the center?
and im guessing you dont get to pick the type of galaxy you go into next, its random?
icy citrus
Actually you can pick that one time the type you want
manic imp
lastly do we lose all the stations to teleport to as well?
icy citrus
The atlas will be like normal, if you need to jumpstart it, just ask nada for directions
Yep, can't go back
You can visit by joining people there, but not stay
Of course, this may all change tomorrow
violet narwhal
I wouldn't recommend changing galaxies normally... But with an update tomorrow that could change everything, even more of a reason to not do it (yet)....
manic imp
perfect thanks guys!
dusky peak
any leak?
icy citrus
No
oak tartan
Hello Interlopers, what can you do with the rememberance/star seed?
uncut harness
plug it into a remembrance terminal in space stations, which are locked behind doors
oak tartan
Do they gib extra blueprints in the locked rooms?
uncut harness
also, correction - it's not just stations, but also on planets. they're behind atlaspass v3 doors
oak tartan
How about star seed?
oak tartan
Can you remove and build the rememberance again to move the slot?
icy citrus
Yep
oak tartan
Woop, thx so much lads
blissful steeple
So is no mans sky like a matrix scenario with space exploration?
icy citrus
I remembered - but they never linked the arg with in game lore like I expected in next
Maybe in beyond 🤞
We got the suits, and that's cool- but I wanted more
uncut harness
and a bizarre log that has existed since 1.3. still very vague. I partially like the disconnection, because it leads to interesting topics. but... it's an interesting topic only since nobody really knows or speaks on the backstory of the dreamers anymore
so I'm half and half. good with additions to exemplify them, good with ambiguity that requires an ARG conversation (plus, it does fit the narrative of WT to have them sort of just appear in the game world, since they were sort of shoehorned when we loaded NMS on W/ARE, I guess).
uncut harness
So, quick question. Will this recovered base archives quest fuck off at some point?
I got all the blueprints, now I'm just mostly visiting random bases and whatnot. Does it ever end?
onyx prairie
Yes, the base part eventually ends
drowsy python
what happens when there is more then 32 ppl in one area?
onyx prairie
how would we know? Beyond isn't out yet :}
slate fulcrum
Update when? 
onyx prairie
probably within the next 12 hours
idle jay
Any beyond 32 people might show up as orbs
uncut harness
@remote charm So, we're an anomaly therefore we can't have genders?
better to take this here, cause they really do take a hard stance on spoiler territory there.
You get what an anomaly is, right?
what WE are in this universe?
remote charm
Ya @uncut harness Sean originally didn’t want to have the characters have substance, letting us have the ability to imagine what our characters could look like
Aka we could be squishy octopods
So the anomaly was also representative of you can be who you wish to be. If you want to be a female spacer go for it. But since the character models got added in it seems other genders got pushed to the wayside
uncut harness
But now things changed. Now we have substance, there's no imagination. Plus we're neatly tied into the lore. Yet people for some unholy reason really don't want more customization options added.
remote charm
I don’t see why not actually
uncut harness
Hiding behind some genderless bullshit, which is not even true technically.
remote charm
If they couldn’t use their imaginations they need endless customization
Sean was probably thinking of these since you can’t tell gender in these suits
uncut harness
Imagination worked when everyone was an floating orb, you know? Now when they introduced character creator, imagination got replaced by creativity. Plus if you have actual substance to work with, imagination often gets put aside.
remote charm
Lol that’s true
uncut harness
As for the suit, it could work, if it wasn't so, you know. Shaped.
Tight, so to speak too.
remote charm
Ya.
uncut harness
and if we couldn't just become whatever. 😄
remote charm
I saw it more as lost traveler, hungry traveler
uncut harness
aka all the major races, pus a buncha freaks too.
remote charm
Lol ya. I can see why Sean added the major races. He did say he wanted the game to play out where you couldn’t actually tell if a person you see is an NPC or another player
uncut harness
Maybe in beyond, with all the walking npc's. 😄
remote charm
But generally players are kind of predictable. They either jump up and down a ton or try to kill you
remote charm
If Sean can get that sort of predictable pattern in then for sure we won’t know if it’s a person or not
uncut harness
Trying to imagine nms players trying to do that in a space station or something. 😄
remote charm
Lol
Wait for the VR hugging
If he can program in NPCs doing hugs and milking we’d totally think it’s a player
uncut harness
I still wonder how weird it's going to look.
You know, having your npc's, then players using mouse and keyboard, and then dudes just you know, spazzing out, hand gesturing and whatnot.
remote charm
Lol
Oddly if that was NPCs we’d all get mad at sean for making glitchy characters when in reality real people act like that
remote charm
Are they the same ones who drop the glyphs?
uncut harness
If i recall correctly, they're us, right? The same scan as we, just npc's, from different timelines.
yeah, glyph ones.
uncut harness
Like Polo has, for example?
remote charm
They look almost as if they’re a recording stuffed unto a robot and their real body is in the grave you find the glyphs in
uncut harness
not polo... the other dude.
remote charm
Lol
uncut harness
fuck me It was a while since I did the questline.
remote charm
Lol
uncut harness
Apollo. I was close. 😄
But yeah, what's with the travelers. animal heads, aliens like Artemis, just shapes or just glow, like Apollo or Null.
uncut harness
yeah, null apollo, and the quicksilver bot.
all options presented to us, and given to random travelers across the space and time.
remote charm
I’d like to see lore explaining why these exist
Not just the process part of the lore that says meet them but lore about how or why they came to being in the universe
uncut harness
Maybe in beyond. They're introducing new races, maybe we'll get those as races too, same with animals, the groot from the trailer.
Stuff like that.
remote charm
Oddly sentient animals make more sense than the A frame guy
uncut harness
With gek being birb likes, etc, yeah.
remote charm
Maybe it’s cause he’s so exotic and unexpected that he sticks out so much you think he’s really not meant to be here
uncut harness
On the other hand we have korvax, screen bois.
uncut harness
consomething, yeah.
remote charm
Consortium I believe
uncut harness
and our scientist dude was cut out at some point, created a child to not feel so lonely, and then killed it, once he's been "reset". Shit me these stories are depressing.
remote charm
Lol I felt that sequence happened way too quick for me
uncut harness
Always wondered what's with the Overseer too. Farm guy's pretty insisting that he's NOT a gek.
And he's pretty hostile, even our pretty much clueless character is feeling that.
Huh. Maybe we'll get more on that, since we can safely bet that we'll be hiring more people now. 😄
mighty rampart
Redstone Engineer Furby
sullen pulsar
Apollo remains my favorite lore character
when character customization first was added I briefly considered making a gang of all people with Apollo heads
hushed heron
I had null's head for the longest time
sleek dragon
analog kite
gimme da patchnote boss
faint edge
Gib pachnowts
blazing river
limber stump
calm owl
"being able to move installed technology" I'M GOING TO CRY, THIS IS SMALL BUT THANK GOD
sinful moss
ENCOUNTER MULTIPLAYER BOIS
naive ingot
links or it didnt happen
tranquil karma
"Chairs may now be sat upon."
celest dew
Changed the reward sequence for factory interactions to allow players to choose which product recipe they would like to learn. 🙏🏽
sinful moss
vulkan out of beta bois!
quick fossil
I can’t enable VR :/
pastel forge
should i make a new game to experience the new questine and stuff, or just stick with my current save?
slim lantern
MAtty the update is not out yet
quick fossil
Ah is that why?
worn hinge
@tepid iris omg the cutest gek-friend ;;
sinful moss
chairs may now be sit upon LMAOOOOOOOOOO
slim lantern
@quick fossil yeah wait for it i think in an hour or 2
mighty rampart
hahahaha no new races
I called it
slim lantern
OOOH WTF
timid mist
There's no bar for materials in the inventory now
slim lantern
my steam is precatching
royal scarab
from the changelog: Added the Launch System Recharger, a starship upgrade that automatically recharges the Launch Thrusters over time.
timid mist
It's just the number
quick fossil
Frig I was like what the heck is going on I can’t get VR to work
quick fossil
But the discovery screen is different in mine after the update
velvet steeple
You can sit on chairs
sinful moss
WE DON IT STEAM GANG
timid mist
holy shit
uncut harness
God damn
timid mist
you can build things without needing the subcomponents built
uncut harness
Yeah this has changed the whole game.
Inventory limitations have been relaxed, allowing explorers to carry near-unlimited quantities of mined substances. The inventory UI has been revised and improved.
timid mist
It just leaves it empty and allows you to biuld individaul sub componenets one a time
quick fossil
Like subnautica
uncut harness
Awesome
zenith perch
@royal scarab that's a fucking great change
royal scarab
added a chance to collect geodes when mining rocks or asteroids. Geodes can be analysed to extract large quantities of substances.
zenith perch
No more being stuck on shitty toxic planets in survival
royal scarab
who needs to horde stacks of launch fuel anyway /s
pastel forge
In normal mode, increased the slot storage limit for substances from 250 to 10,000. @uncut harness
uncut harness
😩
quick fossil
So even though I’ve got the update I have to wait for them to “switch it on” is that how it is??
chrome loom
damnnn thats good
pastel forge
holy shit, living glass farming is gonna be littttt
timid mist
Found a new plant "Pulpy Roots"
royal scarab
i think it's worth keeping in mind that the game is for sure rebalanced somewhat for the inventory changes
timid mist
"Process in a nutrient processor to generate edible products"
onyx crow
The only thing tht matters
timid mist
Also, guys
mighty rampart
hahaha the last one (cooker) looks hilarious I love it
onyx crow
Nooooooo
pastel forge
the mining glitch?
mighty rampart
I need to start a new game now they changed too much
tepid iris
this ui 😮
royal scarab
what's happening to cargo storage on your exosuit i wonder, is it just gone? 🤔
pastel forge
@mighty rampart same
velvet steeple
Which mining glitch
timid mist
It no longer instantly cools down
timid mist
oh weird
mighty rampart
best thing for me is that they optimized the game for lower end PCs
timid mist
you have to hold another button to actually scan things now