nms-spoilers

[native carbon]

🤑

[safe quarry]

a mix of 2 and 3 for me

[analog breach]

I dont like commnetary content much. Everyone has own opinion. It really has to be a vid on some burning topic that im really intrested what that specific person that i already liked earlier has to say about it. And even then i not always watch it.

[native carbon]

for me its 4 and 6

[safe quarry]

I just cannot see HG dropping the update now, so that when we reach the anniversary date we all look at them expectantly with our hands outstretched as we usually do and they go: "..what are you looking at... yeah happy anniversary, go away, we already fed you."

[native carbon]

number 1: the update is the juiciest one this year
number 2: the update adds nothing but a expedition
number 3: The update isnt anything huge buts its a decent size.
number 4: bees
number 5: Sean strikes back

[safe quarry]

Plus if this was the BIG update, would Sean not be doing his usual and stirring the pot more :p

Usually when its a big one, he engages with the speculation a lot more and retweets a lot of active people

[native carbon]

true

true

[viral geyser]

No he doesn’t

That’s not true at all

[safe quarry]

you mean he didn't tweet back at the satisfactory devs over voyagers? :p

[cosmic anvil]

exactly

[viral geyser]

The only thing Sean does on twitter is shit post, emoji spam for updates, and retweeting NMs screenshots and news

[native carbon]

he usually does but doesnt jave to

[cosmic anvil]

the yapping drowns over game audio as well

but I digress

[grizzled apex]

Not necessarily. WP1 hit like a truck partially because no one expected it. The theorising / Sean activity was fairly normal

[viral geyser]

Evelin is just rage baiting

[safe quarry]

didn't he still do his usual tweeting back at people and winding people up?

like waving at the satisfactory devs

[native carbon]

sometimes when he feels like it

[cosmic anvil]

you new here? they don't do that at all

[grizzled apex]

Hell, even I thought it was just the cloudsave update lol

[safe quarry]

or posting the 'sean please stop' tweets?

[safe quarry]

thank you laptop ❤️

[near forge]

I feel like at this point it‘s kinda desperately looking for patterns tho

[native carbon]

@safe quarry is one of the nicest people out here i doubt they would cause ragebait

[grizzled apex]

I'm pretty sure he does that every update, but when Playstation already has it and we're waiting on the patch notes

[viral geyser]

Glazing someone trying to dictate what other people say as big

[safe quarry]

I'm not sure how that even constitutes ragebaiting that i am just trying to moderate expectation ^.^

[icy citrus]

lol

[safe quarry]

too kind ❤️

[native carbon]

Hey Sean

[viral geyser]

Your not your actively arguing with people about scemantics

[icy citrus]

The standard "leak"

[cosmic anvil]

BEEAM

[native carbon]

its totally real (trust)

[cosmic anvil]

Mr BEEAM

[near forge]

That would be

[icy citrus]

Has one of these ever been right?

[safe quarry]

hehe right?

[native carbon]

source: ChatGPT

[safe quarry]

only when we all already guessed it!

[native carbon]

at first i thought it was real but the more i read the more i realised how dumb it is

[icy citrus]

The name is about the only thing I think could be accurate there, as far as content goes

[grizzled apex]

Only if you 🐝lieve 😛

[icy citrus]

[viral geyser]

The post litteraly says it’s not a leak

[native carbon]

im still curious about the full title card the "leaker" said will publish, that can easily tell us if its fake

[safe quarry]

omg

[native carbon]

IQ below zero

[cosmic anvil]

Sean Beean always dies in movies

[viral geyser]

I think yall are getting trolled

[hard stirrup]

A couple of actual trailers have leaked in the past. I remember seeing the Exo Mech trailer before the update released.

[safe quarry]

yes that will for sure out it!

they probably won't because that would be too much photoshopping :p

[native carbon]

haha. we will see lmao. or AI,slop

[cosmic anvil]

Adobe AI cleanup

[grizzled apex]

I need Sean to see this abomination lmao

[icy citrus]

That was just because it got published early, not really a leak

[viral geyser]

Thanks for insulting me

[cosmic anvil]

imagine his kids (if he has any) see this

[native carbon]

nah im just joking sorry bout that

but typically wjen people type "totally not a leak" or smth like that im 99% sure they are sarcastic

[grizzled apex]

He does but they're fairly young from what I remember?
And I just realized they're gonna be able to see all the memes we make about their dad one day

[icy citrus]

Anyways, what if it is real? I would laugh my ass off at a new bug race

[safe quarry]

I think that leak can be safely discredited the second it said ships are increasing in size by 2 to 3 times

which would mean throwing out the station update they just did and doing it again

[viral geyser]

That’s your opinion

[icy citrus]

I mean, he retweets you - send it out with my regards

[cosmic anvil]

Sean be like Homelander watching memes scene

[safe quarry]

I did not say it wasn't?

[native carbon]

if its real, Please turn us into a circuss

[safe quarry]

Besides rn the old ships fill the old niche of people who don't want to bother with interior spaces

[cosmic anvil]

also ask Sean Beean to remember BlueSky

I get all my info from Gunter

[safe quarry]

plus i am not sure what interior spaces would work for, for example, the fighters

there is no room back there save the cockpit

[cosmic anvil]

my life in 2026 is already one

how much more worsec can it get

[safe quarry]

least of all since they are supposed to be the jet fighters of space, u wouldn't even have an interior space back there?

[native carbon]

how about we make it double?

[grizzled apex]

I don't think I've ever been retweeted by the big man himself, I'd have a heart attack!

I don't think my content (covering HG "screwing up" leaving things in) is something they're interesting in giving traction 😅

[near forge]

Yeah I actually really wouldn’t want them to touch the og starships again

Their simplicity is a nice contrast to the corvettes

[hard stirrup]

I think what is fueling the fire for people to look at this one as more likely is apparently HG are preparing for a significant promotion with this new update. So we gotta wonder what they are pushing. If the leak is fake then what is it? Can't be just an expedition...wouldn't make sense to promote big. Maybe the freighter update?

[cosmic anvil]

"Radiant Pillar BC1 will be changed" /s

[safe quarry]

Exactly, it might be a bit too controversial to shake up a part of the game people are cosy with.

[native carbon]

or maybe its a new ship type

[cosmic anvil]

like what? I can't think of any ngl

[safe quarry]

for sure think its an update and expedition. @grizzled apex could confirm?

anything in the back end?

[native carbon]

or maybe its corvettes for NPCs

[grizzled apex]

I agree. The current system is really nice from a player choice perspective. Id kinda hate losing that variety of choice.

[safe quarry]

I think boardable enemy corvettes would be nice ^.^

[native carbon]

Bomber mentioned that the expedition will drop some days after the update (Please correct me if im wrong)

[icy citrus]

Ok I'll message it to him then

[cosmic anvil]

we already were hinted at in the remnant expedition right with the broken and destroyed NPC corvettes

[native carbon]

that screams big update to me

[safe quarry]

I kind of feel that was content pulled from something coming down the pipeline for sure

[cosmic anvil]

yeahh HG tends to do a lot of that

[safe quarry]

mhm!

[cosmic anvil]

it always does right? only in small updates we get the expedition on day 1

[safe quarry]

tho i was convinced that meant something more around them imminently after and i was wrong

[grizzled apex]

Yep, expedition's loaded.

Weirdly enough, one of the version numbers it expects for this one was incremented. The last time that happened was right before Voyagers.

[safe quarry]

i mean of all the hints that this might be more significant, that's one of the most credible!

[native carbon]

is the expedition loaded in for tomorrow? or later?

[grizzled apex]

The start date isn't set either yet. might indicate the exp starting a bit after the update like titan. Will keep checking though

[native carbon]

ah, please update us though!

[safe quarry]

that's interesting. means the content isn't predicated on the expedition hmmm

[grizzled apex]

Definitely intend too.

[safe quarry]

but also means that the content is 'expeditionable' for want of a better word hehe

[hard stirrup]

And if that is the case it's even more clear HG aren't just promoting an expedition.

[safe quarry]

makes me lean more into planetary dungeons

infested POIS getting replaced with full hives

or mebbe POIs lead to the hive?

[native carbon]

plot twist: the leaker is actually Gleam and he just wanted to make us go insane for funnies

[dense quartz]

To think we'll be playing the new update in just a little over 24 hours... I can hardly wait!

[native carbon]

i will be very busy tomorrow :C

(i think so at least)

[safe quarry]

Dun worry, just means u get to look forward to it even more!

[grizzled apex]

Oo you're right. PS will probably have the update in a lil over an hour from now tmrw

[native carbon]

so update in less then 26 hours

[hard stirrup]

Nothing of the sort was ever datamined...it could happen but we have no clues pointing at it. But we do know they've been working on something freighter related since before Voyagers. If not the leak then I think it has to be the freighter update.

[native carbon]

fun

bruh

[dense quartz]

I can't wait for a PS player to take a pic of the in-game patch notes and we see if the leak was real or not lol.

[safe quarry]

I would have thought freighter too, but not sure how bee could relate?

[grizzled apex]

I'm hoping the_architect doesn't post anything tonight haha, or else I'm gonna go into the update period severely sleep deprived lol

[safe quarry]

the more updates we don't get the freighters for, the more likely that makes me think it'll be part of the big summer one

and the more i hope that they will finally be mobile and have capital to capital battles

[native carbon]

ARG guy?

[hard stirrup]

I wouldn't worry about the emoji...emojis have often been nonsense that just rhymes with the update name or whatever.

[dense quartz]

What's been uncovered from that ARG? I'm guessing not much if we're still unsure if it's official or not.

[safe quarry]

mhm tho i can't possibly think what it could be this time other than hive.

[icy citrus]

Swarms could be stretched to having far more freighters and frigates

[safe quarry]

Hmm that sounds plausible?

[native carbon]

no mans sky buzzy bee update

[icy citrus]

I don't think it means that, but if we are making leaps

[safe quarry]

What if its a queen bee? like the void mother would be?

[native carbon]

broodmotjer

[dense quartz]

It already feels like there's 500 of them whenever they warp in. Those things never ever stop warping, the event lasts like almost a full minute and keeps shaking my camera lol.

[grizzled apex]

Still assumed fan-made. Nothing directly revealed about the game itself and it won't be if it isn't official.

[hard stirrup]

If not that then the question persists, what could be so significant that HG are doing a major promotional push for?

[safe quarry]

Honey. It's a cronus update. that's it. that's the whole update.

[icy citrus]

They did a Twitch campaign for Remnant, not exactly the biggest update

[native carbon]

imagine thats the case and the paid streamers are forced to feed cronus

[grizzled apex]

Ah no wonder they're paying streamers then. Cronus seems to have pretty big pockets. It's all part of his plan!!

[safe quarry]

apparently its sponsored streams to. But I cannot find any reliable info on what updates have had sponsored streams in the past.

[dense quartz]

I still have no idea what the Cronus standing thing does when it gets to 100% lol.

[safe quarry]

wait there's standing with him??? Shows u how much i talk with him ^.^

[cosmic anvil]

what is Cronus?

[hard stirrup]

That was just Twitch drops...which they largely left to the usual streamers. But this time HG are supposedly aggressively reaching out to content creators...don't think they'd do that if this was just another set of Twitch drops.

[safe quarry]

I bet it just increases the nanites he gives u

[grizzled apex]

Sponsored streams is tricky. I honestly can't remember HG ever sponsoring creators to play an update, but I wasn't looking too deeply into that for the earlier years of the game. As of late, it's always been paid advertising sponsorships before the actual update.

[native carbon]

Popular twitch streamer

/jk

[grizzled apex]

The food judge guy in the anomaly

[safe quarry]

@cosmic anvil he's teasing u :p its the guy you can give ur food to

[native carbon]

its the fat frog guy

[dense quartz]

Yeah he wants you to give him different recipes every day and if you donate them in bulk, you'll raise your standing with him.
And you raise it so you can... umm.. I'm still figuring that part out.

[icy citrus]

Reaching out and paying them, or just letting them know there is a Twitch drop coming?

[cosmic anvil]

ohhhh right that guy...

@native carbon may you get eaten by a Leviathan in Subnautica 2 for this :P

[native carbon]

"FEEDING CRONUS 10 BILLION POUNDS OF HONEY! NEW PLANET UNLOCKED?"

[near forge]

Apparently it‘s the former

[safe quarry]

I haven't found the part in the vid but as @grizzled apex pointed out they're getting sponsored to stream this one

[hard stirrup]

No mentions of twitch drops and was mention of aggressively reaching out. I think paid promotion.

[grizzled apex]

According to Gothalion, they're getting paid to play the update on release date, and getting a brief today

[grizzled apex]

Oh? I thought the link had a timestamp

[safe quarry]

Oh sorry i don't click links so i refound it myself ^.^

my bad!

[cosmic anvil]

hmm, could be just an anniversary post?

[grizzled apex]

There's chapters in the VOD too, which include one for this discussion

[icy citrus]

No idea then

[grizzled apex]

All good, it's an understandable precaution

[icy citrus]

I have my doubts about the veracity of this though

[safe quarry]

The leak is definitely wrong. Aztecross and Asmongold streaming it?

nooo thank u, their audiences are not compatible with NMS

[native carbon]

Gleam be honest its YOU who posted the fake leak 😠
you made us look insane so you can laugh behind our back

[icy citrus]

I never fake leak, against my morals

[native carbon]

meh, imo possible

[safe quarry]

Asmongold mebbe

[native carbon]

wait, NDA? wdym?

[grizzled apex]

He brings it up and I believe 2 other people on the stream corroborated it, but they don't go in detail about the brief or such iirc.

[safe quarry]

but that other one, he is not the right vibe imo

[native carbon]

non disclosure agreedment for what

[icy citrus]

I suppose we will know more in 24h (ish)

[safe quarry]

interesting that the youtubers i actually know about are rarely approached

[dense quartz]

I imagine a brief is like HG devs get on a call with the content creators lol.

[safe quarry]

it's probably a 'sell sheet' for the update

will tell them what the new content is and how to access it

so they aren't wasting stream time chasing their own tail

[hard stirrup]

I wouldn't think Gothalion would lie or grossly misread a situation like this. I don't know if just saying that broke NDA...technically he didn't disclose anything about the update and content creators are obligated by law to disclose when they are paid to promote.

[grizzled apex]

He talked about it like it was an email tbf.

"I'm not even gonna open it, I'm diving straight into the update"

[native carbon]

bomber hack into their email

[icy citrus]

Fair point

[native carbon]

/jk dont do it

[safe quarry]

I don't know this Gothalion one at all?

is his stuff good?

[icy citrus]

Old school

[cosmic anvil]

UNLIMITED POWER

[grizzled apex]

He's often in Sean's replies and is one of the few people Sean replies back to. Been playing NMS for a long time now apparently

[zenith perch]

Chill streamer, was big on destiny and Borderlands for a while iirc

[cosmic anvil]

You have an NDA??? why? for this server with HG?

[near forge]

He has two twitch accounts

[icy citrus]

No idea what you mean

[safe quarry]

he was joking pretending he's under NDA

[dense quartz]

We know Sean is in here. He posted a screenshot of us on twitter years back. He could be any one of us.

[safe quarry]

like he had insider knowledge :p so would be under NDA not to disclose it

[cosmic anvil]

ahhhhh

[near forge]

We all know who it really is

[cosmic anvil]

why am i getting played by everyone today 😭

[icy citrus]

It's in the water

[safe quarry]

omg did he actually?

[dense quartz]

Attention focused on tomorrow's update!

[native carbon]

its obviously Gleam

[icy citrus]

Multiple times he's tweeted screenshots of chat here

[safe quarry]

It's @grizzled apex He secretly holds his own colleagues accountable by digging into their own files and calling them out. It's clear.

[icy citrus]

Some of the screenshots he posts come from here as well

[grizzled apex]

There are definitely HG employees lurking in here. Not sure about Sean directly, someone could pass screenshots along to em too

[grizzled apex]

Dammit, my cover's blown!

[near forge]

I was Sean in a previous life so I can tell he would do this

[safe quarry]

One day he will post at Sean, go to his other phone and be like 'omg bomber boi, big fan, you're the best'

[native carbon]

its either gleam, bomber, or

me!!!!! muhahahaha

[cosmic anvil]

so german Sean?

[near forge]

[cosmic anvil]

Schon

[native carbon]

BK is Sean?

[dense quartz]

I always imagine that a high-profile peep hiding in plain sight would be called Snyorkable_poptart86629 or something dumb like that. No one would ever assume that guy is Sean.

[near forge]

Inserting „always has been“ meme

[native carbon]

thats something a real Sean would say....

hmmm....

[safe quarry]

Can be fairly certain that whoever it is, it'll be someone who has never posted a single message

They'll have joined just to lurk and get the inside scoop

[cosmic anvil]

reminds me of that time when La Checklituide or whoever that was — they were the leader of the French Discord and had a white nametag (meaning they have never talked here)

[dense quartz]

Also the guy who posted that reddit thing has a funny name... hmm...

[safe quarry]

so focus on all the old timey white name peeps >.>

[grizzled apex]

"YOU'RE Sean. YOU'RE Sean. I'M Sean. Are there any other Sean's I should know about?"

[near forge]

Sean wouldn‘t post a leak on reddit lul

[native carbon]

meow

[cosmic anvil]

Sean Beean

terrific actor

always dies in movies

[near forge]

We‘re all Sean, actually!

[native carbon]

together, we are Sean

[cosmic anvil]

me at U.K. Customs

[native carbon]

Shaw murray

[near forge]

Shaun Murrraaayyy

[cosmic anvil]

so I can add recipient of two The Game Awards on my LinkedIn?

since we are all Sean

[near forge]

Yes, I as Sean give you (Sean) permission

[native carbon]

fun fact: youre 1% Sean

[near forge]

Hmm

Well chat has finally calmed down, now I can concentrate on being productive hopefully

[icy citrus]

Overrated

[safe quarry]

Yes I had to tab out as today so far has been a very unproductive work day

if you discount NMS speculation, otherwise very productive

but i dun think my work will see it the same way

[cosmic anvil]

I'm yet to cook lunch and I'm terribly hungry cause of this chat

#BlameGleam

[safe quarry]

As admin, everything is his fault.

[native carbon]

nah

im coming back

it will be a big update for sure im right Evellin? /jk

[icy citrus]

[native carbon]

Blame Gleam

[safe quarry]

explodes!

[native carbon]

maaaaan i really want to know if the leak's true or false

[safe quarry]

If its sponsored streams, the one thing we can know for certain is HG are proud of this and we should be excited :3

[gloomy isle]

If the ARG turns out to be legit, part 1 makes a lot of sense

[safe quarry]

What's all this talk of another ARG?

[gloomy isle]

#project-skyscraper

[native carbon]

imagine of the uh leak is uh leaky

[safe quarry]

I'm guessing nothing confirmed? ah i wondered what that channel was.

[native carbon]

[gloomy isle]

Yeah nothing confirmed yet but there's some eyebrow raising stuff

Seems well planned too

[dense quartz]

I'll always find reddit leaks funny

"I have exclusive information about NMS... I must tell reddit!!! ...and I'll provide proof but also censor/crop it so it's hard for people to believe me."

[native carbon]

Dear fake leaker, if you can hear me, please post the full title card so we can laug- i mean analyse it!

[gloomy isle]

I might have to make one, one day 😂

[cosmic anvil]

spelling of analyse 💀

[native carbon]

oh i hate my fat fingers

[dense quartz]

If we're really getting a whole new race, then we're getting new player customizations and I'm betting the player is standing in the center of that leaked art with the new skin option, holding the staff that we can see.

[safe quarry]

if an ARG is indeed starting now, surely that adds credibility to the theory that this is update is also the start of a lead up to the summer update?

2 months for the ARG to run its course

[native carbon]

the thing is we dont know if its official

[safe quarry]

ah oki

i remember waking titan took a while to be confirmed as NMS arg

She just kept saying 'oh NMS, never heard of it, looks neat.' Yeah yeah >.> sneaky sneaky ARG narrators

[gloomy isle]

Tomorrow will probably be our confirmation, or at least it'll increase confidence in one conclusion

[safe quarry]

a say a while, a while to be confirmed. I think people sussed it out pretty quick

[grizzled apex]

Assumed Fan made, though it's very well executed and planned out.

[dense quartz]

I wasn't around for Waking Titan, but I remember people talking about the last ARG for Autophages which... to this day I'm not convinced it ever existed and everyone was just mass-halucinating an ARG somehow.

[native carbon]

can confirm, looks very VEERY well made

[safe quarry]

Sean called it part of an in-game ARG, but i get the feeling they just didn't continue on with it

lost steam or thought better on doing it that way. He called it an ARG, but what he was talking about ended up not really constituting what u'd call an ARG.

[dense quartz]

Yeah, Interceptor was part 1 of 4. And they never elaborated on which were next parts.
And I still don't get what the ARG even was lol.

[sour fossil]

Meanwhile actual data miners: heres a full screenshot of data structure for multiple player owned freighters, here's a 3d model of unused corvette toilet in Blender, here's a brand new ship we gonna let everyone unlock with mods before official release

[grizzled apex]

That's a bit of a misattribution. The post says "ARG Like clues", not that an actual ARG is taking place

[sour fossil]

People with established presence in the community Vs literal nobodies

[safe quarry]

ah well there we go.

[safe quarry]

Yesh i always wonder if they consider these 'parts' done yet or if they're still rolling with that

[dense quartz]

Yeah it didn't feel like an ARG at all, just hints and clues for the community for what they were planning to add next.
But everyone was calling it an ARG.

[safe quarry]

there's some updates that could qualify but they never called them it.

With hive being a fairly solid guess, i am hoping for void mother and realm of glass related content now

yesh i saw those, top of a helmet?

since u can also see the tip of a staff

still think its fake

[native carbon]

i guess so?

[safe quarry]

but trying to guess what they used

[dense quartz]

I figured Worlds Part 2 kinda ended that thread since Sean said it (paraphrasing) wrapped up a story they've been building for years.
But there's still more that they'll add it feels like.

[safe quarry]

mhm even part 2 felt a bit cliffhangery.

[native carbon]

even if it is fake u must say its pretty well made

[safe quarry]

mhm they're really trying to convince people its real if it is faked!

[dense quartz]

Yeah it's 100% handmade.
Someone commented saying the framing is identical to Worlds Part 2... it isn't.
And said that the Hivemind text backdrop is inconsistent from the rest of the letters... it also isn't.

[sour fossil]

It's cheap ass font with no modficiations

[sullen topaz]

i place my kidney on number 2

[sour fossil]

HG likes to play around with fonts used for logotype

[native carbon]

and you lost your kidney

[safe quarry]

plus the paper edging 'wear' isn't consistent as someone pointed out

[dense quartz]

Yeah that was me lol.

[native carbon]

worlds part 1 and 2 crying in the corner

[safe quarry]

that's been pretty templated for a while.

[safe quarry]

oh hehe, well caught. guarantees its fake to me

I'd have to double check, but i think that's been templated for a while

[native carbon]

its not a photoshopped worlds part 2 title card though. planets different and theres a weird purple staff at the bottom

[dense quartz]

I think there's been cases where they used a different cover wear? But I know the majority always use the same exact template.
I keep going back and forth on this lol. Tomorrow can't come any sooner!

[sullen topaz]

nope

[native carbon]

yes

[dense quartz]

Wait.. yes it can. I can literally travel into the future by sleeping.

[sour fossil]

Fair enough

[safe quarry]

went back to foundation and same style

[sullen topaz]

our brains are gone

[safe quarry]

so they've literally used the same wear since day 1

[sour fossil]

I just go with my experience of recreating logotypes for splash screen mods

[native carbon]

top 1 weakest ragebaits

[sour fossil]

Even if you identify the font online, there are changes to individual glyphs to make it stand out

[sullen topaz]

sean went to a bee farm and thought HMMM I SHOULD POST IT

[sour fossil]

And this just feels cheap

[native carbon]

true

[sullen topaz]

tbh yall know how tasty is bee venom

[native carbon]

for me the title looks real but i wouldn't be surprised if its fake

[near forge]

Not as tasty as sac venom I bet

[sour fossil]

Guess we'll see tomorrow

[safe quarry]

Plus isn't it convenient that the person wanted to leak the cover art, but not the art itself... the part that would actually involve modelling new 3D assets, oppose to the easy part: a font and some text?

[native carbon]

yeah but why would they add little thinnies at the bottom

[safe quarry]

take aningame screenshot and crop it to maybe look like a genuine new piece of content

[near forge]

Whoa!

[safe quarry]

But that staff is old, and i think the two pointies are that helmet i recognise too

[native carbon]

?

whoah

[gloomy isle]

?

[safe quarry]

Regarding the fake leak

there's like a, fairly clearly faked, title card for the update going around.

[near forge]

Interesting that the leak is still up on reddit

[safe quarry]

Probably more likely proof its fake

I dun know their policy for pulling down fake leaks, but i bet u HG would have words with the mod to pull down a real one pretty fast!

[icy citrus]

They pulled down the first one, probably just asleep

[grizzled apex]

I think the sub just takes down any potential "leak" discussion regardless of likelihood of being true

[gloomy isle]

Oh! Didn't realise. Is there a link?

[safe quarry]

i think that's sensible

[grizzled apex]

So it's not an indicator of anything other than not noticing the new post

[safe quarry]

the wear and tear around the image being inconsistent with... how many updates now? is pretty damning in my eyes

[hard stirrup]

I don't see why Reddit would remove an real leak. If it were proven false then it would likely be removed but if it's ambiguous it should be left up...it was all spoiler tagged too.

[grizzled apex]

Definitely. That tear overlay looks in house imo bcz I've tried to make my own covers in the past and could never find that exact overlay.

[hard stirrup]

Or if HG asked them to remove it I guess...not sure if HG are hunting leaks though.

[safe quarry]

I just mean to say they might get a bit more pressure from HG if it was legitimate, especially if HG are investing money in this update and trying to control the audience rollout with sponsored streams

[grizzled apex]

Breaks rule 1 apparently. It also wasn't flaired as a a spoiler, but rather information

[safe quarry]

true. the wear is the 'concrete' evidence to me

[safe quarry]

hehe that's why you inspect the source file and nab that :p

[grizzled apex]

Im pretty sure it's not rendered on top of the cover image, but just a part of the ones they publish

[safe quarry]

yeah you're right

https://www.nomanssky.com/media/53pajsgz/bookcoveroptimised.png

they've baked it into the png

lassoo tool it is!

[grizzled apex]

Would love to get my hands on it someday though, I'd like to make some reimaginings of older posters like Foundations or Pathfinder in the modern game.

[safe quarry]

That would be fun to do ^.^

I'm actually really hopeful for planetary dungeons, but i'd be as excited for the next part of the narrative tbh.

I had expected each update this year, at least to start, to bring some content alongside exocraft customisations and updates, but so far the colossus is the only one

[near forge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/s/sJRrUnCbub

the 2nd post

Up since 6 hours

[safe quarry]

That bit about the 10th anniversary set aside for LNF also makes me fairly certain its fake

[near forge]

Granted, HG people would have been sleeping then

[safe quarry]

only someone close to the NMS community would see that as a good optics

but to a casual gamers, to celebrate a games anniversary by talking about an unrelated game.. not a good look! hehe

[icy citrus]

Like one of your kids having a birthday, but you have a party for the other one

[safe quarry]

and even to us it might give the wrong impression: we're bored of NMS now

[safe quarry]

hehe exactly this!

Could they do LNF content around the anniversary? sure while eyes are on them! But you don't sideline the thing you're supposed to be celebrating

[near forge]

Yah this would be a bit weird.

[safe quarry]

and tbh, the game awards worked well as a platform for them announcing it

[icy citrus]

Not just weird, pretty disrespectful to fans/long time players

[safe quarry]

i'd see them doing it there again when they're ready

[icy citrus]

I'm not saying they won't mention LNF at all, but I'd bet the focus is NMS for the 10th, not another game

[safe quarry]

oh for sure

and also the 10th anniversary is really only a milestone for existing NMS players

LNF's audience is yet to exist. sure we want to see LNF, but LNF will be marketed to a broader audience than just us.

And to me all signs point to them gearing up for something to land on/around the anniversary.

an update now gives them the typical 2 month runway for the next update to come in august.

[icy citrus]

Expedition ending a little before, aye

[gloomy isle]

The spacing on the lettering of hivemind is also odd

[grizzled apex]

Oop, fake leak's taken down

[gloomy isle]

Doesn't look legit and it's just an ugly colour scheme

They usually have something appealing to look at lol

[native carbon]

not sure if fake yet hehehehe/jk

[gloomy isle]

Not poop green and purple

[safe quarry]

very good point actually

that the expedition is timed probably to start later could be them guaging how long they need and releasing the expedition staggered to fill in the gap

[near forge]

Is true but it would have fit the vibe of the content leaked

[safe quarry]

buy yourself more time, update tomorrow, expedition a week later or a few days later depending on the runway they need?

[near forge]

So many updates

[gloomy isle]

It would but they'd find a more appealing way to show it, based on the apparent content

[near forge]

As much as I appreciate them, I hope one day I can just start NMS and not fear my discoveries being wiped again etc

[gloomy isle]

The new storms with cool lighting etc

[safe quarry]

what?! not my super accurate, definitely not wish fulfillment leak?!

[near forge]

Imagine the leak turns out to be true 😆

Even if that were the case, it‘d probably differ a lot in what was actually leaked

[safe quarry]

But i wanted interiors for my fighter space ships so i could crawl into the engine and exhaust ;-;

I think there's some measured predictions in the 'leak' that could be true

[gloomy isle]

I would enjoy seeing a proc gen type of large ship

[near forge]

Sentinel capitals being boardable would be cool

[safe quarry]

I hope the freighters become a bit more procedural in their makeup, and the frigates become procedural full stop

[grizzled apex]

Id like, at the very least, for the auroras part of the post to be true

[safe quarry]

i didn't read that part, probably gave up. but auroras would be amazing ❤️

On that note thinking about it, there's so much they could do with planetary skyboxes other than just color schemes

I suppose they're hesitant to add too much procedural as the more in the mix the greater the ratio of 'ugly' combinations

But it could have some textural overlays to mess with the gradients, like a fractal sky? or an aurora sky?

[gloomy isle]

Purple system variety allows for some ugly results already so more variety might start to do harm if done wrong

[safe quarry]

Yes exactly.

[gloomy isle]

Exotic cloud patterns would be cool

And more procedural cloud elevation

[safe quarry]

I mean i'm not fully against it imo, just makes finding the truly perfect planet more of a journey. But could also mess with the feel of the game if most of the planets become hideous

[native carbon]

plot twist: uhhh idk anymore im just excited

[safe quarry]

that would be neat. now they've updated the clouds a few times, having some different makeups of cloud would be neat

[distant bronze]

and the potential for cave biomes, far fetched as it is

[safe quarry]

I would actually love this, and if they lowered the bedrock for true spelunking

[gloomy isle]

My number one thing they could add is the void as an explorable space. Dangerous as hell and with generation rules turned on their head

[native carbon]

very farfetched

[safe quarry]

They could even do this just by having it mirror the existing galaxy, only with some of the terrain numbers turned wild.

[ornate condor]

I would like proper underground biomes

[near forge]

I don‘t see cave update happening

Would probably mess with the planets too signifcantly

[ornate condor]

new star system type

[safe quarry]

Imagine if they were like a roguelike thing where u have to leave everything behind to cross the barrier, but then you get to take out some special alien tech or multitools etc u find when you are ripped out?

[near forge]

Unless the leak would be true in that it would only apply to a new set of systems yeah

Caves were glowed up with Worlds too no? At least visually

[safe quarry]

Could be a neat way to recapture that early game feel for veteran players, without having to start a new save

[near forge]

Aahhh

That would be nice yeh

[safe quarry]

I'd love that ❤️

and could be infinitely replayable

[near forge]

I still like watching old nms playthroughs from time to time, though most are rather short lol

[safe quarry]

like starting a new game within your save

having to appreciate surviving the elements again

[grizzled apex]

I'd love persistent space structures, especially now that we have space walking, but I think thats more of an #nms-the-future discussion

[near forge]

Shipyards and stuff like that yup

[safe quarry]

you're right. i am digressing!

[safe quarry]

Pirate strongholds hidden/built into asteroids that can be attacked to neutralise pirate interceptions for an hour, sentinel pillar style.

[distant bronze]

Asteroid mine random encounters in space would be amazing

[near forge]

Would actually make settling in t3 systems viable

[safe quarry]

true!

And generally persistent space structures would actually make space exploration a thing in the game

[native carbon]

no man sky: bee

🐝

[near forge]

Especially on ground the pirate spam is so annoying with max difficulty settings in a max conflict system

[native carbon]

🍻

[near forge]

But turning space combat to „hostile“ has a hidden shield buff for enemy ships.

Like 20% I think

Which is why I don‘t wanna reduce it

[safe quarry]

oh i didn't know that

[near forge]

Yeah I only found that out recently myself

[native carbon]

bee

[safe quarry]

I still can't shake it meaning hive

[near forge]

Depending on the combat difficulty setting it‘s a -20%, 0% or +20% stat difference in synergy with the hostility setting, iirc

[safe quarry]

I try to think what else, but i keep coming back to hive

[safe quarry]

its a shame they don't separate those options into their own things

[native carbon]

bee

[near forge]

Fully agreed, and the shield modifier is something they don‘t even tell you about.

The way it‘s worded, the hostility setting would make you think that it‘s only about the frequency of attacks

[native carbon]

nooo my favourite chat died 😦

[near forge]

Yah and I‘m almost lvl25 too^^

[safe quarry]

i was trying to find evidence of sponsored streams through youtube and i saw professor cynical's thumbnail for this update speculation... I'm going to have nightmares.

[near forge]

Ooo I still need to watch kanajus most recent vid

[safe quarry]

its like a zombee sean

leaking honey out of its eyes

[near forge]

All in all this has reminded me of my quest to find my perfect honey desert

I already had one but it was on a save I deleted 😆

Though a ruined dissonant desert is almost more appealing..but oh well this isn‘t rly spoilerz anymore!

[native carbon]

best no mans sky youtuber

pokemon evolution

[near forge]

For sure yeah he also has a pretty nice voice, though GhostLight is undoubtedly Nr.1 for me in that regard.

He hasn‘t done any NMS content in a while tho.

[grizzled apex]

oh what the hell

[native carbon]

SeanBeean evolution line

[grizzled apex]

I really didn't need that image in my mind

[near forge]

Yikes

[icy citrus]

Mines cuter

[distant bronze]

Ah my daily dose of horror from the void

[safe quarry]

Infinitely

[safe quarry]

Right? told u it was nightmarish

[native carbon]

these thumbnails are getting more insane

[safe quarry]

captain steve loves his ai slop. i guess he has to with how much he posts

[icy citrus]

Meh

He's in game, could take some pics

Not that hard

[safe quarry]

I'm not condoning it for sure. But he is all about quantity first.

[zenith perch]

Looks like ai bullshit ew

[native carbon]

cuz it is

[gusty stream]

It is NOT that hard to get a screenshot from this game lmao

[mental socket]

Then there's that other dude cynical professor who even covered a "leak" which was just AI-generated image xD

Nmstubers have went downhill

[near forge]

I feel like prof cyn is a bit of a bad influence on Steve lol

[native carbon]

what was it?

[safe quarry]

hehe they're as bad as each other. and I feel they are the only two NMS youtubers i run into. Kanaju and the rest of the quality ones don't flood the discourse as much as those two do

[gusty stream]

How sad to hear

[mental socket]

Nothing noteworthy. Some space station with ai-slop portal to somewhere

[native carbon]

loool

[zenith perch]

Kanaju's content is great, not ai shit at all thankfully

[native carbon]

whats your opinion on dirt the gamer

[safe quarry]

Yes kanaju is very good. He posts when there's something worth talking about

and because of that, his content is even in the game

he did the posters in the space stations didn't he?

[zenith perch]

Ig we'll see whatever this supposed press review thing is today

[near forge]

Not sure if it‘s always been this way and I was just oblivious to it, but I always felt like Steve‘s content was more grounded a few years back

[native carbon]

hes pretty chill ngl

[safe quarry]

I remember watching steve and enjoying it well enough once upon a time

[near forge]

Yah Kanaju is my fav general NMSTuber, for lore GhostLight is Nr1. though.

Both have really nice voices too.

[safe quarry]

but i think he started to chase clicks and quantity too much, and the problem with youtubers like that is they get unduly frustrated at the game for not giving them content to cover faster, and that sentiment can get contagious if its all you listen to

[native carbon]

my faves is kenaju and dirt the gamer

[safe quarry]

me too, those two are fun ^.^

[gloomy isle]

Kanaju is GOAT

[safe quarry]

Kanaju's always feels meaningful and dirt is funny ^.^

[gloomy isle]

Also his work on the space station posters is really cool

[near forge]

Oh I never heard about dirt

Gotta look into him

I liked Jason and Xaine too but not rly my type of content

[native carbon]

Dirt makes entertaining no mans sky videos ngl, sometimes other games but its mostly NMS

we getting a little bit out of topic though.. right?

[safe quarry]

The fact that NMS has never reached out to Steve to do a sponsored stream says a lot, despite him having a reasonable NMS following.

[near forge]

Mhm

[near forge]

I thought him and Sean have some sort of contact even

Or at least I remember hearing that somewhere

[safe quarry]

(going to eat my words when he does a sponsored stream tomorrow)

i'm not sure

he does an annual event in guilford where they work

[gloomy isle]

Steve trying to figure out the flatbed truck still lives rent free in my head

[safe quarry]

and they've sent things to the meetup before

could be that

[safe quarry]

hehe i did not see this. would explain why he said the expedition took him 8 hours

and that anyone who could do it in under 3 must be a speedrunner

i did it in under 3 hours and I don't think i am like super good at the game or anything. just competent :p

[near forge]

Jason also struggled a lot I think lol

[safe quarry]

I didn't find it too bad, especially when i realised i could do two 'rendesvouz' in one go before heading back

much less back and forth then

especially as some of mine spawned about 1 min apart from each other

[near forge]

Yah I think if you went slow & steady it was pretty easy, I only had one moment where I almost fell into a hole

Lost some cargo here and there but it was no biggie

[zenith perch]

Not really since the ai thumbnail stuff was brought up?

[safe quarry]

A lot of the speculation should probably go in #nms-the-future

i'm always guilty of doing that!

I've never had any spoilers to spoil the community with ;-;

only wild hypothetics

The fact there's sponsored streams has me slightly more excited for something more substantial than I originally thought. But I maintain that sponsored streams doesn't necessarily mean substantially large drop of content, just that whatever they are dropping is something they think will resonate with a larger audience.

[native carbon]

@safe quarry smart thinking, my brain really wants it to be big for no reason.

[safe quarry]

It's why i thought mebbe an update that sets up the runway for the bigger summer update, but i suppose it could just as easily be planetary dungeons if they're neat and interesting enough that streamers latch onto them.

[native carbon]

@safe quarry whatever it will be, i will enjoy it

[safe quarry]

Yes me too ^.^ And I think we can be reasonably excited for this one, clearly HG is if they want eyes on it.

[gloomy isle]

Part of me wonders if instead of an actual update it's a reveal like with Beyond

We've had emojis for reveals before too iirc

With frontiers and origins

[grizzled apex]

We do have a sale though, which I don't think happened during reveal leadups

Feel free to correct me on that though I don't have hard data for that

[safe quarry]

plus i hope for something i can actually sit down and play tomorrow ^.^

[grizzled apex]

Oo, looks like some potential internal activity?

[gloomy isle]

Oh in that case then yeah it's not that

May just seems SUPER early for the big one so I just wonder if it's part of a big leadup

[gusty stream]

I agree

[gloomy isle]

Then again, the updates this year so far have been pretty small, if cool

Smaller than say Orbital etc. So they could be locked in on one big one

[gusty stream]

Or maybe it is a multi part update

[gloomy isle]

That too

[gusty stream]

Wouldn't be suprised if that were the case

[safe quarry]

This is what i have been theorising

Feels like it would be well timed for it, since the next one is almost certainly the big summer one

and putting streamers eyes on this one could be about building up that momentum

[gloomy isle]

Another thought I'm having is that they have been starting to stray away from the August window more and more 🤔

And given worlds and voyagers I wonder if they might be putting more focus on a massive yearly one again

So a two parter would land well if they're doing that, idk

[safe quarry]

Well considering august is the 10th year anniversary, I bet there's a lot of community expectation for that one to hit big

I know the last two parter was purely because not all the content made the cut in time, so they had to separate it into two (which is why worlds part 2 broke the trend of the big summer update being the only big one.) but i think it worked well for them from a marketing perspective

doing that again, and this being part 1 with the second being part 2, gives them a lot of time to drum up anticipation for the anniversary

[gloomy isle]

True, though they might also want to do something like a celebration event/ expedition

And just put out the big one when they want to

Idk

I mean we'll find out tomorrow 😂

[safe quarry]

mhm ^.^

Fun to speculate either way, but thats where i'm landing on my predictions ^.^

[next lagoon]

I have a feeling this might be big

[grizzled apex]

Oh yea, PS will probably have the update on their hands around this time tomorrow

Probably earlier

[safe quarry]

And then we'll all be here screaming at them to download faster

and whip their playstations to do it quicker

then scream at them when they are too busy going 'woah' and 'oooh' to post a screenshot of the splash page

then get someone's blurry handheld photo of the page from across the room

so we can all squint to try and make out the content notes

and eventually an hour later someone will post a proper screenshot :p

then cue a few more hours of people saying they can't find the new content and everything looks the same

It's like a tradition.

[carmine pollen]

Don’t forget the obligatory “the game is as big as an ocean but as shallow as a puddle!” comments

[safe quarry]

True!

[grizzled apex]

Ya nailed it to the T!

[next lagoon]

Nailed it to the "bee"

[mental socket]

Was there an expedition scheduled on servers?

[safe quarry]

You can never predict the update, but you can always predict the community. and I'd have it not other way ❤️

[hard stirrup]

Yes but doesn't have a start time yet...might not start tomorrow when the update drops, we'll have to see.

[cosmic anvil]

funny but the last few updates after Voyagers again felt like that (to me personally, I know a lot of people like Xeno)

[safe quarry]

I'm sure i've asked this before for other updates, but is it abnormal to not have a start date for the expedition by this point? @grizzled apex

[safe quarry]

I feel there's some missed opportunities in there. Like remnants mechanics could have been applied much more broadly. tangible trade goods we have to haul and that sort've thing. More universal uses for the gravity weapon

[cosmic anvil]

yeah, it is like they just dropped that one

[gusty stream]

True

[grizzled apex]

Not exactly. Titan, for example, was pushed serverside before the update, but didn't get a start date until the next month.

Though other times (like with voyagers) they've been set a day or two before the update itself

That's why I'm still keeping my server scripts running pinging the server till the update drops

[safe quarry]

I remember Titan felt quite a bit after too. But also wasn't that the time they dropped it in the middle of an ongoing expedition too?

[gusty stream]

Yes I believe?

[safe quarry]

I feel the reduxes were still rounding out when wp2 dropped.

because it messed with the expedition with the jellies

so they had to extend that one out to compensate

I was just curious if there was anything to read into the fact there isn't anything set yet?

[grizzled apex]

Titan started on 12th Feb and was uploaded on the 29th of January. I think the issue was switch players having the cursed rerun expedition extended for a week or two because they didn't get a progress blocking bugfix in time

[safe quarry]

that sounds right.

well with no active expedition atm, interesting there's no start date set.

[grizzled apex]

I don't think so, but going off what happened with voyagers we might get a start date set in a few hours. If not, it's possible that the expedition may launch after the update itself.

[safe quarry]

wonder if they're expecting to do a lot of bug fixing for the update proper again, and will drop the expedition when they're happy they've ironed out the kinks?

[gusty stream]

That would imply a decently complex update

[safe quarry]

That's true. I thought the same for that one but then the expedition did turn up quite quickly afterall.

[safe quarry]

Only a theory, but could be their reasoning? especially if the expedition is dependent on the content and they want to make sure its stable before people get their hands on it. But as BomberBoi says, sounds like its also too soon to tell if they're not going to drop it simultaneously too.

especially if they've dropped an internal branch recently, probably doing some last minute playtesting themselves.

[grizzled apex]

Before Voyagers I would've said that the exped would launch at a later date. That one kinda broke the "pattern" so I'm always vary of what to expect.

But generally, Id expect the date to be set before the update releases if they plan to drop it alongside the update. A reasonable window for that is anyone's guess though

[safe quarry]

hmmm in summary: hive planetary dungeons confirmed. :3

Desolation 2

[grizzled apex]

Schrödinger's update, just hope it collapses into that one when ya observe it tmrw 😛

[viral geyser]

Sean’s shit posting about the update

Another sign that’s it might be a big deal

[cosmic anvil]

tomorrow if the Architect posts, then your sleep is the one which is going to collapse 😂

[carmine pollen]

I’m talking more about people who have been saying that since the game first came out and expect every update to be the one that Fixes Everything for them and then are disappointed when it doesn’t

[cosmic anvil]

ahh those... yeah those I believe are a vocal minority. A lot of the general audience thought this game would die in 6-7 months given the launch state. The fact we got through 10 years is nothing short of a miracle I'd say. A miracle bought by hardwork and perseverance.

No sign of it stopping too. Few months back we couldn't even dream of building our own ships. Who knows where this game will be in a year or two ahaha

[charred nebula]

Hopefully we get more trash hauling, thats what the game needs.

[carmine pollen]

I’ve been wanting and hoping for planetary dungeons for a while now. Derelict ships are still my favorite part of the game.

[cosmic anvil]

more space truck simulator?? I'm all for it 😂

[gusty stream]

even if these last two updates havent really motivated me out of my burnout with the game I can just wait for the next big thing

[safe quarry]

They're such a good part with potential for more. ❤️ they could have so many other procedural elements to spice them up too ^.^

like imagine if they had different hazard modifiers. like some with toxic/radiation/fires.

[gusty stream]

every sentinel drone procedural

[grizzled apex]

Proc planetary sentinels might be pretty neat. We already have proc interceptors in game.

[safe quarry]

Toxic leaks u have to avoid, radiation pockets u have to navigate, fires that give the atmosphere a thick dense choking smog.

[carmine pollen]

Also a good testing ground for dungeons in Light No Fire

[grizzled apex]

Toxic Leaks? Like ones on Reddit? 😛

[safe quarry]

Yes, which is why i think its plausible too!

[charred nebula]

I feel like the ones that could really use procedural generation would be bio horrors.
They're meant to be apex predators that adapt to the environment, and yet are the same on every planet in the multiverse.

[zenith perch]

I don't get why people want dungeons so badly

We're so overpowered that no combat will be a challenge to us

[safe quarry]

active content. and it doesn't necessarily have to pose combat challenges :3

[zenith perch]

and they can't nerf us without people getting pissy again acting like the game is dead like they did in waypoint before the supercharged slots were added

[safe quarry]

puzzles, all sorts.

[carmine pollen]

Because its not always about combat

[distant bronze]

agreed, mix and match of heads, limbs, and attack styled would be great

[zenith perch]

I'd like multiplayer stability long term as I will always say

[gusty stream]

i mean
we literally do have dungeons (derelict freighters)

they just have not been touched on since added many years ago

[safe quarry]

I still think they could hand off the dungeon building to the community too. Have a dungeon tileset we can build with, have to run it to completion before u can upload it to be seeded to other player's worlds. Then have some HG curated stand ins for offline mode.

rating and report system so the dungeon system pushes popular ones and downplays griefy ones

[zenith perch]

derelicts are designed around the limitation of slow movement however

[cosmic anvil]

Genshin had something like that as an event - domain building. Now it is its own separate game mode

[safe quarry]

then just a generic big pyramid for planets that can house any number of player created dungeons. so each time u visit one, its truly a unique experience.

[safe quarry]

neat! i didn't know about this. I've seen a few games lean on players for their dungeon content. The game i always go on about, enshrouded, is working towards it now

[carmine pollen]

I’d love player based dungeon building

[charred nebula]

That would be pretty neat, an outlet for both exploration and creativity

[safe quarry]

exactly! Keep both camps happy ❤️

[cosmic anvil]

the only downside is NMS MP is utter dogwater rn

needs a lot of backporting from LNF

[safe quarry]

people who love to create content for other players, and those who just want to run unique dungeons

[charred nebula]

And with gravity coil, you could make some fun puzzles.

[cosmic anvil]

but NMS was designed as an SP experience so there is that

[gloomy isle]

For planetary dungeons I'd prefer a focus on puzzles and environmental hazards

[safe quarry]

love this idea!

[safe quarry]

Yush, just to distinguish them from the derelicts, and mebbe give them an almost indiana jones feel

three tilesets for the different races too (4 if u want autophage ones as well.)

korvax all mechanical parts, gek more traditional egyptian looking aesthetic from the period of the first spawn, then vykjeen all tribal and brutalist.

[flint hollow]

wait what was the emoji? possible update this week?

[safe quarry]

I feel an update like that wouldn't just go down well, but would have good longevity for player retention

[safe quarry]

bee emoji 99% update tomorrow

[flint hollow]

bee

what could be bee

new mobs?

[safe quarry]

my guess is hive

[charred nebula]

Trash hauling

Bee>pollen>pollution
Its more trash hauling 100%
-# I'm not doing a pact for it though

[raw girder]

The game needs Proc gen planetary pois with much variation like puzzle dungeons, environmental story pois, dungeon pois, monster dungeons , multiple layers sentinel dungeons,mega fauna nests, landmark pois etc

[charred nebula]

Honestly, rather than planetary pois I'd love space pois instead

[raw girder]

I love both

[safe quarry]

This is why i am surprised they don't lean on the community for this. They have this issue with the repetition of POIs, and then they regularly post about incredible NMS builds... guys... put your hands together!

[gloomy isle]

Destiny crossover (RIP)

[safe quarry]

Just need a system where you build a POI within the designated round 'plateau' of an empty POI, then that becomes a seed for other player's POIs on planets

only issue is curation

[charred nebula]

It wouldnt even need to technically be in the world

It could be a simulation you enter from a generic poi.

[safe quarry]

or that, certainly how i'd do it for the dungeons

[gloomy isle]

To be honest I think they have the system for generating POIs on point, with the settlement buildings and the derelicts

[safe quarry]

just have a big pyramid that can house a player made internal space

[gloomy isle]

It needs refining though I guess

[safe quarry]

You're right tho, i'd want space POIs, permanent ones, before anything else

just because space is purely an interstitial space you go through between planets rn

Its as good as a glorified loading screen that doesn't even need to be there. Needs some content to flesh it out that you actively have to go to, rather than it spawn in front of u

[carmine pollen]

Alternatively. NMS farming sim update. Set up alien bee hives and pursue your farming dreams

[safe quarry]

Don't tempt fate! I bet people would meme about a trash hauling update until we got one!

or a fishing update

[native carbon]

ngl i would absolutely adore this update

[sour bramble]

any news today ?

[safe quarry]

not likely until tomorrow. just a lot of fake leaks

[native carbon]

not really, some "fake leaks" popping up, maybe real, maybe not

[charred nebula]

Likely tomorrow afternoon euro time

[safe quarry]

oh the fact that streamers are doing sponsored streams tomorrow

i guess that's news.

[native carbon]

@sour bramble streamers doing sponsored streams to promote the update may suggest something big is coming tomorrow.

[sour bramble]

damn, so they will drop everything on us in one straight go tmr

[safe quarry]

that's how it usually goes!

expect playstation to get it first...usually

[sour bramble]

AI can be annoying lol

[native carbon]

i remember that one time nintendo switch got it first

[gusty stream]

There is a natural rhythm to these updates

[native carbon]

im 100% sure this isnt AI

[safe quarry]

mhm not ai but certainly photoshopped

[sour bramble]

oooh

[native carbon]

this

photoshopped, or real. no in between

[charred nebula]

Ok, that ones fake.
But now that I think about it, making multipart update like Worlds would kind of make sense.

With anniversary update being the next one

[safe quarry]

see this is what i keep saying! hehe

this being the slightly smaller leadup to the significant summer update

but no one trusts me ;-; and I'm always right >.>

[native carbon]

according to the "leaker" 2nd part will come out next year lol

[gusty stream]

yeah this is fake lol

[sour bramble]

no cowboy emoji means no expedition right ?

[safe quarry]

there's always theories about the cowboy emoji and what it means but none of them have been proven right

[native carbon]

no cowboy is a "update drops very soon!" sign

[safe quarry]

but we do know there is an expedition coming

[native carbon]

expedition confirmed but no set up date which is weird

imo it suggests the expedition will release next week.

[next lagoon]

Sponsored streams ehh

[charred nebula]

I do not believe that hg plans updates further than one month ahead.
I am convinced that their update planning is basically just:
"ok guys, but what if... pokemon in space"
"Hell yeah, we got an update"

[native carbon]

and i love em for it

"flip it we add fishing!"

"flip it we add pokemon!"

[safe quarry]

We know there's multiple teams and they have staggered updates so each one bakes for months at a time.

some do smaller updates, some get like a 6+ month lead time.

I've still yet to re-find the interview where sean confirms this but i am certain i've heard him talk about it

cause he jokes that the team with the most time tends to go off the rails with their ideas

[charred nebula]

How the hell did they split into even smaller teams, isnt half of their already small studio working on lnf.

[safe quarry]

they're about 25ish now

and at launch they were about 15

[gloomy isle]

Most expeditions can be made by one or two people too

[safe quarry]

mhm it was designed that way

designers mostly do that end, the devs made them the tools for it

so its mostly hands off from the programmers

That first one terrifies me

[native carbon]

sleep paralysis demon

[gloomy isle]

I guess the artists will work on cosmetic sets for updates etc, then a dev will come along and make an expedition to make an expedition to suit them

Or something idk

[native carbon]

[charred nebula]

Also, I get that they did it for xeno arena as a meme, but if the nice update lady doesnt return for next update trailer Im rioting.

[safe quarry]

She's already changed once apparently

[native carbon]

if the lady doesnt return ima be sad

[charred nebula]

:[ my life has been a lie

[native carbon]

our journey continues

[charred nebula]

Now I gotta check every update and see if you're right

[safe quarry]

i couldn't hear the difference, so don't take my word for it, but apparently she changed a few updates ago

and i thiiiink i can hear a subtle difference

you'd be better comparing like a super recent one to say foundations

that way you're for certain hearing the two separate ladies.

because i don't know when the shift happened

[charred nebula]

Couldn't it just be different recording tech

[native carbon]

imagine one day its a dude saying our journey continues

Sean himself lol

[safe quarry]

i would have to find out who said it first, but i had a quick listen and i think they are different. but could also be recording gear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUMBSeBqnQ8

vs

[native carbon]

me

[safe quarry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI9PvjJJijY

[raw girder]

I mean they could create a whole long loop like farm sim, factory sim with settlemens system.like configure a settlement as specific type like farming settlement type so that new buildings will be like farming related like farm plots,animal sheds,silos and farm produce buildings. Create a whole new trade goods namely farming trade goods which are produced by the farming settlement as we expand which we can then load in our frigates to sell in the high profit star systems part of frigate expeditions completing a trade loop right from production.

[gloomy isle]

Yeah they're defo different. I think they even have slightly different accents

[safe quarry]

mhm i think the accent changes

[carmine pollen]

I remember everyone losing their minds when the first big NMS update came out after launch. The devs had gone radio silent, bug fixes had mostly stopped, and no one knew until them if the game was even going to continue.

[safe quarry]

I remember seeing a little footnote in the release notes saying base building was on the way so i had faith, but i was still more than excited when it did drop

As i worried after the launch drama they would just run away

and here we are 10 years later ^.^

[carmine pollen]

I was so excited when I woke up and saw the news spreading everywhere. Lots of fans had hope but now it was confirmed. NMS wasn’t dead! And now here we are with the updates still coming

[gloomy isle]

Atlas rises was when I think I realised how special the game was going to become

I'd stuck with it on and off until then

[carmine pollen]

Also man the game looks different now. There are some parts of the launch version that I miss (I’ve played 1.0 a few times in the past years) but for the most part I like it far better now.

[safe quarry]

Hehe i was literally just thinking how NEXT muddied all the graphics for the longest time

and it was a long road to us getting to where we are now which is a happy compromise of the more vibrant launch aesthetic and the more grounded later direction.

I missed the launch terrain, but eventually we got something close to it again with WP2

[carmine pollen]

Also it’s so easy to get stuck in 1.0 and just have no choice but to restart. And the inventory? Don’t get me started on how bad it was back then

[gloomy isle]

It's kind of crazy how little discourse there is over e3/ launch art styles now vs in the past

I think it shows how well worlds did tbh

[carmine pollen]

But I still remember the time I landed on a lush planet and it was silent. No animals, no ambient animal sounds. Just a few buildings and the sound of the wind through the grass and the rain when a storm came up. I’ll never forget how eerie and beautiful that moment was

[safe quarry]

1.0 vibes do hit different! The sense of attrition from a hostile galaxy and the isolation was a lot more acute back then. It really felt like uncharted worlds.

[carmine pollen]

Yes! The sense of isolation was so different back then

[safe quarry]

This is why i kind of hope LNF is the reverse of NMS

rather than spread us all out at spawn, have a starting region most of us begin in

and allow us to sprawl out to uncharted frontiers

people who want community can stay in the populated hubs then, but go beyond the frontiers that players have reached and find a quiet and isolated frontier land.

[carmine pollen]

And then I played 1.0 again, got stuck in a mountain after exiting my ship and couldn’t escape and I was like… you know maybe some things are better left as nostalgia

[safe quarry]

hehe that's true. Might avoid playing 1.0 and have the rose tinted glasses lifted!

[gloomy isle]

The one thing I miss about old NMS is the brief window where RayRod's full overhaul was available for atlas rises

[carmine pollen]

Why not? Grab a console and physical disc and come join the fun! Just wait until you get an hour away on foot and then remember that summoning your ship wasn’t a thing back then

[safe quarry]

hehe i sti... oh wait nuh it was digital. i don't have a physical copy ;-;

sure i could hunt one out

one day, i want the atlas pass v4 code to actually do something

fairly sure its just a code of authenticity. but still

[carmine pollen]

Yeah the launch version and the Beyond update are both still available as physical copies

The only thing I genuinely miss from 1.0 is mining nodes being above ground in different shapes depending on the mineral. I do miss that

Watching the Foundation update trailer and one of the big features is item stacking. I legit blocked that out of my mind. It was so bad before that

Collecting all the Atlas seeds and each one took up an inventory slot

[gloomy isle]

I forget it took until next for us to even have refining

[carmine pollen]

Right???

[gloomy isle]

Saw this on reddit. It's got me thinking a bit

If they followed through with this it could be cool

Defected sentinels as a 6th race could be awesome

[charred nebula]

The sentinels we see around are the ones that defected from atlas though

[gloomy isle]

I mean defected from the rest of the hive

Like Laylaps

[charred nebula]

Would that need to be a new race though?

[gloomy isle]

I mean, mechanically it would end being that

If they were friendly

[charred nebula]

Well, "friendly" more like suppressing their ptsd when they see you tear into a planet.

[gloomy isle]

That's not the sentinels discussed in the image I shared

There's a schism in that hive, and some are learning to express themselves through art etc

[zenith perch]

Took till visions to have better swimming iirc

NEXT was 1.5, Visions was like, 1.75 i think?

[charred nebula]

Aren't they just talking about their current state? Where they're basically just saying that they became more individual and independent of atlas?

They aren't really making distinction between being creative, etc. And fighting back.

[gloomy isle]

No, this is more recent observations on the give iirc

[native carbon]

🐝

[zenith perch]

the give?

[lyric coral]

I wanna say the new update could be space station management because it’s like bees to a hive?

[gilded girder]

Hive autocorrect

[lyric coral]

Colony update?

[molten karma]

Who knows at this point I do wonder if we'll ever have a purpose for station overrides lol.

[gusty stream]

Maybe
Or maybe not

[hard stirrup]

I always keep 2 readily available in my freighter's general inventory. If or when they become relevant I have them handy. It's a fairly simple and fast bit of preparation for potential updates you can do fairly fast.

[humble kayak]

spirit I've gotta ask

What do you do with the boat load of resources you farm

Do you just sell them or is there always something you're working on

[hard stirrup]

Depends on the stuff. I like to have enough ready of most resources that I am ready for anything. All my various resource farms for like Stasis Devices and such, I just leave those alone, sitting full until I need them. Usually when I take stuff out of silos it's to craft stasis devices or I only take like a stack of something need and leave the rest in. But I do keep a lot of different stuff in my storage containers too.

[molten karma]

I wish it'd be easier to move on from it if it was.

[hard stirrup]

Looks legit.

[molten karma]

We'll see if he post again the time difference between the two post was 12 hours its been about 12 hours since the last post. We may not hear nothing. This could all be fake. Half true half fake but regardless we'll know 100% sure in 24 hours.

[native carbon]

see? its real

okay ima delete cuz its a meme technically

[hard stirrup]

He won't...I doubt he can. Both his previous posts were removed so he's likely banned from the subreddit.

[molten karma]

I'm keeping an eye on his account to make sure he doesn't post it on another subreddit or post on a different account.

[grizzled apex]

isnt his account private?

[gloomy isle]

It is, yeah

You'd be able to find their posts if you searched by name iirc, but I'm not sure how reliable that is

[molten karma]

You can use this site to look up private accounts. Private accounts really aren't private on reddit. https://www.rosint.dev/?u=Friendly_Sorbet_8341

[gloomy isle]

I can't lie the post history makes me doubt this even more 😭

[molten karma]

It keeps track of deleted content by mods and from user to so everything gets archieved.

It's strange I mentioned this earlier but according to him though he got it from a third party.

A lot of his post are about plastic surgery.

[native carbon]

What?

lol

yyyyeaaahh its fake

[molten karma]

I mean from the looks of it he doesn't really have much game post and never posted in any NMS subreddit outside of this not sure why someone would waste their time for a game they hardly interact with.

His comments are mostly on crimson desert.

[grizzled apex]

oh yikes one of the posts has his face on it. could get their "source" in trouble if it was real by association.

[gloomy isle]

To rile people up, ngl. That's usually the main reason

He's also into other survival games

So it makes sense

[molten karma]

True it could be that to but let's keep in mind we have at least sponsored streamers officially confirmed which implies something big. Also for the source trouble he might have thought setting the account to private really meant private.

[gloomy isle]

I do think it could be big but nothing about this guy screams that he's a credible source of NMS info

[molten karma]

I mean if he's in California or Washington he may have a friend that did give him the source. They do love their plastic surgery lmao.

[native carbon]

never forget

[molten karma]

See that's before and after plastic surgery

[hard stirrup]

If it is real I wonder how far HG would go over this. I don't see them suing someone but maybe they could have it investigates to identify the source of the leak and then reach out to the media company or platform about it. Also worth noting that the source may not even know or intend to leak anything...probably just someone excited talking to someone they think they can trust and then that person runs to reddit behind their backs.

[gloomy isle]

I have a leak

[grizzled apex]

Issue is that's precisely what happened with Origins when someone posted a video about features from that update revealed by a friend in the press. In that case the original source was reprimanded iirc.

[native carbon]

is this the hiveborn species?

[molten karma]

Dude probably thought his account was truly private. I mean a lot of people don't know you can look up deleted post/comment history and see private accounts. Also not to mention dude probably thought he could've got easy upvotes and clout.

[grizzled apex]

So it's less about HG pursuing em, and more about the outlet figuring out who it is and going after the source of the leak within them

[molten karma]

If not a troll.

Even if he deactivates his account out of fear this stuff will still be there.

I'm kind of surprised Jason Plays hasn't made a video on the emoji yet.

[hard stirrup]

Weird. A bit late now too as update will be out in like 20 hours.

[native carbon]

NEW UPDATE LEAKED?!!
ai thumbnail
NEW HIVEMINDS? insane ai generated stuff in the background

[molten karma]

I still don't think the banner is AI it's either legit or Photoshopped.

[gloomy isle]

Maybe he's been briefed on what's happening

Better to stay quiet than to fake speculate potentially

[molten karma]

Maybe especially if he plans on streaming

[gloomy isle]

We know Gothalion's been sent stuff about it, and Jason is probably the biggest one who mains NMS outside of update season

[molten karma]

I mean there is Captain Steve but to be fair HG probably think he cant keep quiet I feel like that's probably the case with a lot of these speculation type channels. Also in Kanajus video it sounded like he knew something tbh.

[native carbon]

WHAT IF the banner is real but the description is fake?

[molten karma]

That could be a big possiblity tbh.

[grizzled apex]

Honestly, with early briefs being confirmed, I'm really surprised with how well contained the info has been so far. 0 credible slip ups by media or streamers anywhere so far.

[molten karma]

A lot of leaks usually half false info and half true.

[gloomy isle]

I'm guessing it's only the most trusted streamers

Gothalion, Jason, some others probably idk

[hard stirrup]

Jason is the biggest active NMS content creator on youtube I think at 255k subs. Beeblebum is like 75k or something but he doesn't seem to be playing much NMS outside of updates. Not sure about the twitch side if there is anyone bigger there covering NMS.

[molten karma]

Most news outlets usually slip like 5 hours before update. I cant recall when there has been a big gap between update and a news leak.

[grizzled apex]

Ah I thought Echoes was a bit earlier for some reason.

[gloomy isle]

I also don't think asmongold would be sponsored by HG like the leak suggests. He's not the type of person nor does he have the type of audience

[molten karma]

He has a massive audience and has been praising NMS with each new update lately. I can see HG taking the chance to reach out tbh. He even says he really wants to try out NMS. What better way then a official sponsor and money? He has to feed his pet cockroaches somehow.

[gloomy isle]

Eh true I guess

It's just that I see him having a stroke when he sees how the game handles pronouns and body types 😂😂

[left iron]

Now this update really seems to be hype

Not talking about the leak

[molten karma]

Yeah I just wouldn't believe the leak to much but something big is going on though.

[deep mountain]

Any leaks this time?

[hard stirrup]

He does often play games at least twice a week, covers the game industry a lot too. He's not friendly to many but has been positive about NMS, often pointing to it as one of the industry's great redemption stories. And he has an enormous audience....his videos get at least hundreds of thousands of views in one day, very often over half a million views in the first day...and that's youtube alone, not even counting Twitch views at all. If he did a 2 hour video of him playing NMS it would be seen probably more than anywhere else.

[midnight saffron]

So do we know which streamers are doing the sponsored nms stream?

[molten karma]

I think one part of the leak is true is combat if they are getting big streamers. I think more combat will easily sell to new players/casuals.

Gothalian so far haven't tried looking into it much further.

[hard stirrup]

I think Gothalion and one other guy who confirmed in the same stream he was reached out to...I think that's all we have confirmed but there's likely plenty more, we'll see tomorrow.

[molten karma]

Bigger streamers generally don't say anything until the day they're streaming. I noticed vtubers usually have an announcement funnily enough.

[midnight saffron]

I know gothalion is doing one was in his stream this morning.

[distant bronze]

honestly the leak might have come from one of the streamer packages someone managed to get a hold of

[molten karma]

Journalist or streamer if true.

[grizzled apex]

Didn't a vtuber get sponsored to do an ad before voyagers?

[molten karma]

Yeah cant remember who though.

[gloomy isle]

I think so yeah

[midnight saffron]

Also I see you guys talking about a leak. This isn't the hive born stuff is it.

[deep mountain]

Whats a vtuber

[molten karma]

I noticed Sean has been trying to win over us weebs we love to spend money but also steal.

Yeah it is.

[gloomy isle]

It is, seems photoshopped

Has different wear and tear on the art and stuff when it's the same in every other banner

[molten karma]

The Japanese community for NMS is surprisingly big.

[grizzled apex]

Lmao, of course cpt steve makes a video on the "leak" and sponsored streamers

[molten karma]

Eh I was looking at update art they all seem to be different and from the looks of it the banner is cropped from the top slightly.

Slightly different.

[gloomy isle]

He's never been sponsored by HG before right?

[grizzled apex]

Oh definitely, and HG is aware. Martin fast tracked that one Japanese person's lost save issue

[midnight saffron]

The hiveborn is what makes me think its fake. Sound too much like the starborn.

[molten karma]

I like captain steve he's pretty down to earth tbh.

[grizzled apex]

He did for voyagers at least

[molten karma]

He just goes overboard.

[gloomy isle]

Oh wow, didn't realise

[distant bronze]

wouldnt be the first time, voyagers was on the nose with the Skyborn space suit

[gloomy isle]

I don't think he's a bad guy but I find the amount of AI he uses irritating and he's very slow to understand mechanics, refuses to read the tutorials then gets angry at the game lol

Again not a reflection on him as a person I just don't enjoy watching his stuff

[left iron]

We'll see tomorrow guys the wait isn't that big

[molten karma]

HG has taken several jabs at Starfield and if its more combat focused it makes sense since that's really the biggest thing Starfield has over NMS at the moment. Also with captain he is older so I write it off. Also to be honest I'm not really a AI hater either since I run it locally for work.

Tons of games use it behind the scenes for a lot of small things without disclosing it.

[left iron]

NMS pet ability names might be AI

[gloomy isle]

Yeah starfield's biggest upsides are the combat and the loot imo

I don't see HG being able to reach similar gunplay (which was surprisingly good for Bethesda imo) but it could do with some love at some point

[molten karma]

I think as long as it's good enough of an improvement HG's other gameplay aspects will outweigh the differences.

[hard stirrup]

If the leak turns out to be true the biggest jab at Starfield would be disabling enemy ships in space and being able to board and claim them.

[deep mountain]

Needs to be a poi update, do you like the same tower same crashed freighter same house

[runic mesa]

Wait, is there a leak actually? Or are YT streamers just being themselves?

[molten karma]

Well that's a part of combat.

[gloomy isle]

They do need to do something at some point, what with LNF having melee combat and likely ranged magic etc

[left iron]

Yes

[gloomy isle]

Very likely fake leak w/ photoshopped banner

[molten karma]

Also funny enough before that second Hivemind post he did post a similar post an hour earlier but quickly deleted it himself to include the image and add more context..

[gloomy isle]

Also I think the cosmetics in the banner already exist?

[hard stirrup]

We don't know if it's real so take it with a pinch of salt.

[molten karma]

The only thing confirmed is sponsored streamers which is reservered for large updates.

[left iron]

We don't know if the leak is real, we don't know if the ARG is real, we don't know if the update is real, we don't know if we are real

[mental socket]

Interesting stuff indeed

[molten karma]

So much what if's

[gloomy isle]

One thing I could absolutely see being technically true is some sort of endgame oriented zone with new, more twisted generation. But I think that's been knocked around by the community for years

[molten karma]

I think that and the combat I'm sold on.

[gloomy isle]

And it's probably how they'd have to handle more intense generation changes if they wanted to do that again anyway

[molten karma]

The biggest what ifs are new race and ships being bigger.

[hard stirrup]

According to Gothalion HG haven't been sponsoring streamers since 4 years ago...which is a crazy thing if true...it must be something important if they want to sponsor streamers to promote this...whatever this ends up being.

[gloomy isle]

Since purple+ stars wouldn't particularly work

[runic mesa]

I think the title having something to do with "hive" is a sound guess. Lord knows about the rest of that...

[gloomy isle]

Hive is probably dead on tbh yeah

[left iron]

Or swarm

[gloomy isle]

True yeah

[left iron]

Like in Halo

[runic mesa]

Still waiting for The Cursed hazard system to come back in some form...

[gloomy isle]

Or brood

Colony maybe but that's kinda redundant

[molten karma]

I think HG perfected adding new prcogen without affecting bases for the most part I doubt they'd only utilize that technology investment only once twice if you include Origins.

[gloomy isle]

If they did it, I think it would have to be something other than yet another new star type. Something like accessing the void through portals or something instead

[molten karma]

I think they wouldn't do that because I feel they want players to be able to access the same planet with ease and be able to build bases on them.

[gloomy isle]

Like, if you had corrupted glyphs or something idk

[molten karma]

Not saying its not a cool idea but I feel they implemented it this way for a reason.

[gloomy isle]

It depends on the intention I guess

If it's supposed to be high level and inhospitable it would make sense imo

Less so if it were just another generation type

[molten karma]

The biggest concern for new star systems is them running out of colors.

[gloomy isle]

That too, and just crowding the map

[molten karma]

I feel they'll have a way to filter out the map more later if they keeping going this way.