nms-spoilers

[hot trout]

REGARDLESS, even though travellers arent entirely biological, the bits that are still require water to function

[hard stirrup]

We don't really know what the travelers are...for all we know it's just a mass of tentacles in a humanoid suit lol.

[near forge]

Play with inventory restrictions then those and batteries are „buffed“, for a while at least

[hot trout]

We know theyre a mix of biological and technological stuff, with code and DNA being interchangeable

[near forge]

Sounds like AmongUs, kinda xd

[light cypress]

My suit lets me choose oxygen or “dioxite” to charge it, but the symbol on dioxite is CO2 carbon dioxide

[hot trout]

Correct

[light cypress]

Hydrogen seems to only be used in fuels in the form of H2 in this game

Oh I guess the life support gels too

Weird, should be able to recharge with H2 then

I’m gonna stop talking cause I feel dizzy. I have a cold

[light cypress]

I took a bunch of screens during the dreams of the deep quest

[stuck sapphire]

everything is named weirdly

[cosmic anvil]

that's a Biblical name so perhaps that is why

though I don't recall ever seeing it in game

[hot trout]

There are two or three names in the old weekend missions that dont quite follow the typical theme we see in prominent traveller names

Lazarus is one, Hildebrand is another, and I forgot what the third one would be

Nevermind, the third one i was thinking of was probably Narcissus, which is obviously of greek origin

[near forge]

Hildebrand sounds like something from my country, very german sounding name.

It actually makes me think of old women it‘s not a name really used anymore 🤣

Well, tbf it‘s mostly used as a lastname here but rather uncommon nowadays.

[hot trout]

It is germanic

[near forge]

Yeh, I just researched that bit.

Hilbert is also based on a german mathematician I think.

No wonder I‘m drawn to it, even tho I despise maths.

HG has to have a german person in their team.

Dang Hilbert was born in Königsberg 😭

Ah this isn‘t the place to get into that, but I swear that‘s actually so interesting.

[light cypress]

Here’s the album for Dreams of the Deep. Idk how to do formatting on the wiki. https://imgur.com/a/adAqIA9

Made sure they were in order

[humble kayak]

how long is Sean Murray typically quiet on twitter before an emoji gets dropped

as he hasnt been active in 12 days

[hard stirrup]

I don't think there's a "typical" length to his silence. And updates take what they take to make. He tweets an emoji a few days before an update drops but it's too soon now...we just had a significant update just over a month ago. If there is something smaller like an expedition only then maybe in June. Other than that I don't expect anything significant before the anniversary update in August.

[humble kayak]

nah i agree this next update probs wont be very big

but HG's working timeframe is 6 to 8 weeks

we're approaching week 6

This would be on the early end of that window though, thats true

[hard stirrup]

Not really...we have averaged 3 or 4 content updates per year not counting expedition only stuff...so average gap between updates is 3 to 4 months....it's been a month and a week.

[humble kayak]

I knew about the 3 - 4 month gap thing but the 6 - 8 week figure was on their linkedin

and the timeline has held for both updates so far this year

id go back and look but theres (infuriatingly) no easy to access chart for the update release dates

i'm blind there's the wiki

[hard stirrup]

No idea what linked-in has to do with anything...it's a hiring site. Beyond that I don't really care about the social media stuff unless it's announcing an update and it's too soon. Look, next is likely to be expedition only or very tiny update to fill the gap to anniversary...maybe first seasonal content for the Xeno Arena if we're lucky. But I don't expect that before June...probably sometime in the second half of June we get an expedition that runs until the Anniversary update in August. If Sean posts random screenshots on social media or if they do something or another on linked-in, it's not very relevant to us.

[humble kayak]

linkedin is relevant because it's an official HG account...that's...why I brought it up; it is (or was, since the text afaik isn't there anymore) the closest thing we had to HG saying "You can expect updates at this interval". I'm not debating that the next update will be small, I guessed that pattern back when Remnants came out

You're right though that the average time between updates is roughly 3 months (It's closer to like 2.7 something) but interestingly enough they've been becoming more frequent

The time between Remnants and Xeno Arena was 8 weeks, and the time between Breach and Voyagers was 8 weeks too

I think Voyagers to Beacon was far longer though. I remember that discussion when we were waiting for 6.00 to drop

because it had been behind schedule

[humble kayak]

theres similar timeframes behind older updates, those four are just the first to come to mind

[hard stirrup]

8 weeks is wayyyy too soon for this update. It's been hectic maxing the medals and working on my pet lineup and so on. If HG release an update next Wednesday I'm completely cooked. Soonest I'll be able to complete my pet lineup will be around 25th of May and that doesn't include the time to level all of them up. They need to give us, at an absolute minimum until mid June to complete pet lineups and level them and everything.

[humble kayak]

id offer to help you but i dont know if thats even possible

possible to help, i mean

not to get your goals done

[hard stirrup]

Nah. Just have to wait for some pets to grow up and lay eggs. Transfering the eggs won't be an issue. But I am stuck...have to wait for those pets to mature and lay eggs...once I have those eggs back on my main save I can gene-edit them slot them in, and then I can adopt the past few I need from the wild so for them to lay eggs and everything another couple of days after that.

And there is something else that terrifies me...that Hello Games might nerf the previous expedition reward pets we can re-roll into SSS...it's already only 5 out of 11 you can do this for as it is. Now if I can get them on my main save that will be it...even if they stop us re-rolling them in the future I will STILL have them...but I don't have them on my main save yet. And Hello Games HAVE done this in the past. When the Atlas Scepter was first added to the game you could re-roll it for top damage and and ideal supercharged slot layout...at some point Hello Games caught wind of that and killed it...right now if you claim the Atlas Scepter and upgrade it to S it will always only have 36% damage bonus....they turned it into dead cosmetic garbage. I still have my Atlas Scepter with like 49.4% damage bonus out of max of 50% and ideal supercharge slot layout but that is impossible to get now. If I hadn't done it back then the Atlas Scepter would be just garbage to me now. You have no idea how scared I am that the next update will drop before I manage to move those pets to my main save and HG will do something to nuke their usefulness forever.

IF I can get those 5 on my main save before Hello Games nukes them into oblivion I will have those, then I have the titan worm as AAA(it's fixed, impossible to re-roll, it will always only be AAA), which is decent, and I mostly want it as a mount so that is respectable. And we can get identical transparent/ghostly striders and fossil dogs from the wild that are SSS...all that put together allows us to salvage 8 out of 11 expedition reward pets. Total losses are the monstrosity like the ones you fight when you mine their eggs at abandoned buildings, the blue sentinel dog, and the brood mother small drone insect. Those are lost forever. But salvaging 8 out of 11 is huge IF I can do it.

[lone moon]

@cold pecan the korvax is a convergence which is like a hive mind, so that hivemind is robotic and needs RAM to function.. did NMS build the korvax ram eaters? (This is satire lore)

[cold pecan]

Probably

😂

[indigo brook]

I'm not sure if this goes here but it's about the Autophage, so.
Anyways

:/

I think they're avoiding me at this rate, because every time I take a quest from one they just vanish when I get back lol

[light cypress]

Sometimes I need to scan again to make them show, but other than that you can turn their missions in at the space station mission NPC without having to go back.

I believe it’s the left-most NPC merchant on the bottom floor of the stations.

[indigo brook]

Got it! Thanks!

Okay, tangentially related;
DAMN the Radiant staff set looks good...

It should be available at the synthesis terminals, shouldn't it?

[hard stirrup]

Radiant Staff? I don't remember the names of all the staff parts you can buy. What model is that? Also autophage terminals don't sell all possible staff parts. You might have to go looking for one that sells the parts you want.

[indigo brook]

Radiant Heart, Core, and Bore

Also fuck, that is. Inconvenient

[hard stirrup]

Ah, the crystal parts. Yeah, you'll have to go look at different autophage terminals until you find one that sells them.

[indigo brook]

Bluhhhhh
This is going to blow inconceivably hard for indeterminately long

[indigo brook]

I'VE DONE IT

I wish it was better class but I HAVE IT

[light cypress]

Can upgrade it with nanites at multitool terminals

Gratz ^^

[indigo brook]

Ah. Right. Nanites

I'm sure I'll have it by the time I've fossilized!

Lol

[torpid swift]

How do I know when I’m done with the main story I wanna make a whole bunch of ships and find planets

[hard stirrup]

When all the purple systems appear on your galactic map at the end of the quest In Stellar Multitudes.

[limber mural]

Bro rip Apollo I messed up 💀💀

[compact coyote]

Hey uh. I heard there might be a new NMS arg

[analog breach]

Speculations and rumors

First theybneed to finish old arg arc

[hard stirrup]

I very much doubt it. The ARG back in 2018 was mostly to keep the community engaged and to let us know they were still working on it during thee year long down time with no updates...that's not happening anymore. There will be more expeditions and updates this year. So I don't see an ARG are being particularly likely.

[compact coyote]

https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/project-skyscraper-no-mans-sky-arg/9095/230

[hard stirrup]

Not really sure that proves much...probably fan nonsense...someone on those forums got bored or something.

[gloomy isle]

Followed the thread and it seems like it might actually be legit, I'm not sure

The website itself is curious

[compact coyote]

I’m in the website and it is very detailed. Interesting

[gloomy isle]

Will have to stay tuned. Not convinced yet but you never know

[compact coyote]

There’s hidden areas

[hard stirrup]

Not seeing anything clickable or intractable on the website. A weird structure of lines and dots that respond to mouse movement.

[gloomy isle]

Okay yeah looking at the thread, there's hidden stuff

Not had the time to look at it myself but there's defo stuff there

https://project-skyscraper.com/2026/05/18/sec-log-211927/

This is the actual homepage with logs and stuff in it

If you tap towards the top of the screen, the hexagon which links to the dots has a little glitching animation too

[novel portal]

fair, but tbf the tenth anniversery is coming up, so maybe this could have something to do with that?

i hope this is real and not some vibe coded bs but based on my perusing through the forum, it seems legit?

[hot trout]

It may not be vibecoded, but it could still be fanmade

[novel portal]

true

something to mess with the nms community

[hot trout]

I mean, it doesnt have to be malicious

[novel portal]

im skeptical but i hope its legit

[hot trout]

Previous arg examples make it difficult for me to figure out whether I can rely on lore to determine validity

[gloomy isle]

I'm skeptical but it's worth a look tbh

[compact coyote]

This is very interesting. Yeah, I hope it’s something

[gloomy isle]

Even if it's just to say there's nothing to see, it would be good to know

There's some nice touches tbh

[novel portal]

i reverse image searched one of the corrupted image things that the project skyscraper reddit account posted on the subreddit and its not some stock glitch image or anything, but tbf you could probably recreate that kind of stuff pretty easily

[gloomy isle]

From a marketing perspective, I think Hello Games know how big another ARG would be

Waking Titan was pretty big and NMS wasn't even too popular at the time

[hard stirrup]

Found a scrambled image...this was a very common thing in the last NMS ARG...people would unscramble the image and we'd get a glimpse at something....this is how we got the first glimpse of an exotic ship before they were added in game...no idea how to unscramble this one though: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fconnection-detected-access-denied-v0-8c7atk6y141h1.png%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dc1f17506bd913fb8de67bbb3452379ca0d0c723b

[compact coyote]

This is the 10th anniversary so I wouldn’t be surprised if they planned something big

[hot trout]

Hmm

[gloomy isle]

There's also a bluesky account under the project skyscraper name

[hard stirrup]

Link to that reddit post from here: https://project-skyscraper.com/2026/05/14/sec-log-172832/

[novel portal]

i saw that too

[gloomy isle]

It's not particularly active in the past week or so but it posts access denied messages every now and again

[hot trout]

There are archives it seems

[gloomy isle]

Ye

Yesterday's entry seems cool

[novel portal]

found another weird image

[hot trout]

Im starting from the beginning

[novel portal]

https://project-skyscraper.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/TR4CE.jpg

[novel portal]

same

[hot trout]

First one dates to January 1, 1970, and the second is April 13, 2005

[hard stirrup]

One of the ARG posts ran foul of reddit's filters, that's hilarious.

[novel portal]

lol

[compact coyote]

Let me see if they have an Instagram

[hard stirrup]

Oh wow...I may be completely useless at fixing up corrupted images but Grok fucking nailed it lol:

[compact coyote]

Nope

What the lol

[novel portal]

so i think the latest log may confirm this may be official, it links to here: https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/project-skyscraper-no-mans-sky-arg/9095/180

[gloomy isle]

Nothing on Facebook

[novel portal]

im a bit skeptical of using grok to fix corrupt images tbh, generative ai isnt really made for that

i hope im wrong

[hot trout]

Generative AI does view images differently than we do

[novel portal]

true

ill try it myself and if i get the same result then maybe its legit

[hot trout]

It is possible to insert pixels that cause a massive difference in interpretation

[hard stirrup]

Well I was seeing fuck all...at least Grok saw something, and I think it's accurate.

[hot trout]

Try others

[novel portal]

yeahhhh i got a different result

[gloomy isle]

Might be worth scrambling an image to see if it can unscramble? Just as a test

[novel portal]

dont use generative ai to attempt decoding images

i got a completely different image from it

i used grok as well

[hot trout]

What result?

[gloomy isle]

Aah good to know

[novel portal]

i cant paste images in here but it was some sort of futuristic room with a hologram, very clearly ai generated

im 99% sure grok just hallucinated an image into existence from the corrupted image

espeically considering it was a completely different result from @hard stirrup 's image they got

[gloomy isle]

Maybe for now we keep track of the logs?

Seems as if yesterday's was moving stuff forward a bit

Or maybe those are tied to people interacting with the site

[hot trout]

Definitely wondering what the number means

[gloomy isle]

Which one?

[hot trout]

Live connection attempts

[gloomy isle]

Aaah yeah that

[hot trout]

Currently, I'm reading 10

[gloomy isle]

Oooo

I think that's a user count

It was 3 when I was on it

14 for me now

[hot trout]

Im scrolling through the source inspector and idk whether or not ill even be able to understand what im reading

[hard stirrup]

You can post it in #nms-media

[novel portal]

true true

[gloomy isle]

One cluster of dots has a red haze around it when you select it

[hard stirrup]

I tried some websites that claim to repair corrupted images and they have not been able to produce anything useful at all.

[novel portal]

same

[compact coyote]

im reading 13

[hard stirrup]

Looks interesting though this could just be another AI hallucination of a different sort.

[novel portal]

i personally think its a hallucination

especially considering we got wildly different results

[ebon spoke]

Yeah there's no way it's not

[hot trout]

So far all I can understand is that the network dots on the main site page are procgen

[novel portal]

definitely

they reset on refresh

i wondered if they synced between everyone till i refreshed it lol

[hot trout]

I dont think so

[compact coyote]

Yeah they change \

[hot trout]

But I'd guess the number displayed is somewhat synced

Everybody else seeing 13?

Nevermind, 18

[ebon spoke]

I see 18

[gloomy isle]

Only interesting thing I can see is that one cluster has a red haze after you select it

[hard stirrup]

Yeah alright that's funny at least...forums are highly confused lol.

[hot trout]

You viewing it on mobile?

[gloomy isle]

Yeah

[hot trout]

Pc has the clusters turn red when you mouse over them

[gloomy isle]

Aaah okay makes sense

Are you getting one cluster that's more red than others?

Like, the blue lines get a red glow to them

[hot trout]

Huh

I do

That also changes with refresh

[ebon spoke]

comparison of intensity

[gloomy isle]

Yeah same here

Always one cluster too

[hot trout]

Not one cluster

I think its one dot

[hard stirrup]

This seems like a riddle: https://project-skyscraper.com/2005/04/13/quote/

[hot trout]

Would anyone else mind counting the dots to confirm my own counts? So far on two refreshes I counted 34

[ebon spoke]

looks like it happens when the cursor is within a certain, small area. All the dots within a certain distance light up and the glow is more intense. Which dots/how many isn't consistent because as the dots drift around some of them get close enough to light up or far away to stop being lit up

[hot trout]

Its a particular dot

[novel portal]

i counted about 33-34

[hot trout]

Same

Dang dots keep moving

It is definitely a specific dot

That makes the lines glow red

[hard stirrup]

Oldest entry titled "HELLO WORLD"...that's a familiar phrase....and the line "The sky in not the limit". Dated January 1 1970...I wonder if that date is of any significance.

[hot trout]

For mine here, the dot under "Live" is the one that causes the red glow

[gloomy isle]

Just read back though the thread a bit. Apparently the bot the forum leaders use booted the user but the system reinstated it?

If I'm reading that right

[hard stirrup]

Right...January 1 1970 was when computers started tracking time apparently:

[novel portal]

i think that date is typically the oldest date that computers support

[hot trout]

That modern computers support

[ebon spoke]

It's the Unix Epoch. 0 in unix time

It does appear in No Man's Sky as the discovery date of the space anomaly if you use your visor there

[hot trout]

Well not modern-modern

What

[ebon spoke]

but again, pretty commonly used date

[hot trout]

Atlas runs on Unix time confirmed, lol

I think the memory blocs are counting in Unix time

[compact coyote]

Interesting

[hot trout]

April 13, 2005 was a wednesday... why does it say "Sunday Morning"?

[ebon spoke]

wait I'm wrong, discovery date on the anomaly is 1969-12-31 (16:00)

[near forge]

I was just thinking of that one as well

[hot trout]

I wonder if that's part of how the Anomaly hides

[ebon spoke]

"outside of time" and it's appearing as being at a time the Atlas can't process... that does add up

[gloomy isle]

The fact the account reinstated itself on ETARC after getting blocked is definitely... Something

If I'm reading it right

[hard stirrup]

Well if this is actually connected to Hello Games hopefully it won't be completely forgotten and discarded as soon as it's over like Waking Titan was.

But no useful clues there...this could still be some bored forum member's doing.

[near forge]

Yes

But I want to believe

[novel portal]

i feel like its too elaborate to be just one guy

that could just be my hopium speaking

[hot trout]

Something is up with it

[ebon spoke]

even if it is legit, don't expect a confirmation until near the end

[compact coyote]

Either way I’m excited

[ebon spoke]

I remember months into Waking Titan, people were still sceptical that it might actually be an ARG for Destiny

[near forge]

I really hope we get another shot at an atlas pass v4 if this is another arg

[compact coyote]

Ahhh waking titan. Loved that and I miss it

Which is why I’m so excited for this

[near forge]

I would expect it to take until the middle of August then

[hot trout]

Its already on the forums, but there's another image

[gloomy isle]

Lol at the latest twitter post

Heavy rain 16th anniversary

(press x to sean)

[novel portal]

ohh interesting

[gloomy isle]

https://project-skyscraper.com/about/

Lol

[novel portal]

well at least we know for a fact this one IS for no man's sky considering one of the logs on the skyscraper website directly links to a no mans sky subreddit post from u/Project-skyscraper

[novel portal]

lol

[hot trout]

Apparently the author of this ARG is believed to be french

[analog breach]

22 live connections atempts hmmm

[gloomy isle]

Alice and Smith are French Canadian iirc?

[novel portal]

a guy on the ETARC forums has a sitemap of the skyscraper site, im gonna see if i can get it too

https://project-skyscraper.com/sitemap-1.xml

boom

every single branching thing of this website

kudos to M1Silencer on the skyscraper forum for this idea

[hot trout]

There's a website that is dedicated to collecting all the clues, and it mentions the time the website runs at being "consistent with Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, or a non-DST French speaker."
https://skyscraper.havenmap.online/

[novel portal]

ahhh beat me to it

i was just about to say that here lmao

apparently this has been going on for a few days now and just now has it reached a broader audience

[gloomy isle]

Interesting. The site seems to assert a lot of stuff. Did the forum user vibe code it/ write it using AI? If so I'd be wary about certain details

Especially the whole, it's planned to last a year stuff. As far as I can tell there's nothing to point to that?

[hot trout]

If this is to run for a year, I dont think its a build-up to something related to the 10 year anniversary

[novel portal]

it has that vibe coded look to it unfortunately

[hot trout]

Apparently it was made by Ekimo, who I am trying to learn a bit more about

But ETARC seems to trust them

[novel portal]

cool cool

aight im gonna go for now, ill come back later to check if theres new leads or not, im interested in this

[gloomy isle]

Either way, it's good to have at least some sort of record

Other than forums and chats lol

[hot trout]

Did you see the TR4CE image I sent?

Well idk if it was that or something else

[analog breach]

1,1,2... hmmm 3,5,8?

[hot trout]

Theres mention of memory recovery being 0/365

[analog breach]

Fibonachi sequence

[hot trout]

Dunno how relevant this would even be, but the fibonachi sequence appears as a solution to a puzzle for some of the buildings in nms

[near forge]

Man this sucks, I don't really have the luxury of dedicating a lot of time to this rn

[gloomy isle]

Apparently the timings of the messages form an almost heartbeat type rhythm which is steadily getting faster

[kind rampart]

how do i get up to speed on this channel

[gloomy isle]

According to a random on reddit

[kind rampart]

do the devs often do ARGs for updates or smth?

[analog breach]

0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610...

[hot trout]

No

[near forge]

If this is meant to run for a year, then I would think it might be related to LNF

[hot trout]

Aside from waking titan, the only other instance that resembled an ARG was the build up to In Stellar Multitudes

[near forge]

On the other hand, it's suspicious that it happens 'shortly' before the 10th anniversary of NMS

[analog breach]

There are Others sequences told by autophages

[analog breach]

Yeah. Need to keep eye on it

[hot trout]

Hmm, I wonder if any of those match the number puzzles in the game already

[gloomy isle]

Either way, I think we're in the phase rn where it's ramping up at its own pace whilst people notice it (if it's legit of course). Only thing we can do over the next short while is probably keep an eye on it whilst it does its thing

[near forge]

Maybe it'll be tied to both NMS & LNF, connecting the two.

[analog breach]

I dont think so . Most puzzles where simple math puzzles . None used number sequences

[gloomy isle]

Activity is definitely increasing on it

[analog breach]

Imo I doubt it

[hot trout]

Aside from the fibonachi sequence

Which is both

[gloomy isle]

Project skyscraper was the codename for NMS when it was in development, so I'd imagine just NMS tbh

If it's not fanmade

[near forge]

Yeah that makes sense

[ebon spoke]

Skyscraper is also the name of the NMS engine, which is reused by LNF. I don't think this is unrelated to NMS given the theming, but it could be something linking the two

[analog breach]

Imo its too strongly connected to nms. If i was sean i would want to let lnf be its own thing.

[near forge]

Well, we don't know what's exactly going on in Sean's mind tbf.

But I would hope that this is NMS related regardless, tbh.

[late carbon]

"did you enjoy my worlds?" fah

[near forge]

I'll play LNF for sure, but I'll always care more about NMS.

[analog breach]

23 live connection atempts

[compact coyote]

24 now

[analog breach]

There is Project skyscraper Twitch channel with link to bluesky and X project skyscraper accounts

Where is that wierd skyscraper pic. Cant find it.

[gloomy isle]

Good spot

[analog breach]

Need to find that wierd skyscraper full image. I want to test something.

I found it

[analog breach]

U there?

[gloomy isle]

Ayy nice! Was AFK sorry

[analog breach]

[gloomy isle]

Oh wow

Yeah that's the same

Also, to me this confirms something is absolutely afoot

[gloomy isle]

How did you even find this 😂

[analog breach]

Big brain

Address 145 city road london UK

[gloomy isle]

Ngl I might have to make a reddit thread in the next day or so

There's a lot of interesting circumstantial stuff that make it feel less like something fanmade

[hot trout]

I was doing some chores, lol

[compact coyote]

Hmmm Atlas building

Yeah absolutely a thread would be cool

[gloomy isle]

I'm like, moderately convinced atp

A fan wouldn't be able to reinstate their own account on ETARC/ the system would never restore it by itself after getting blocked

Like it literally unbanned itself?

[compact coyote]

Yeah, that’s crazy

[mental socket]

Wait what. Is something afoot?

Happenings?

[analog breach]

[mental socket]

But like.... isn't that just a random community member posting

[gloomy isle]

We have no idea but it seems very elaborate

The website and stuff

[analog breach]

Idk . I dont have time to dig more. I need to go to sleep soon

Who can , Sniff around that atlas building

look Everywhere

[mental socket]

Ooh I see. Leaning towards fanmade stuff. Staying cautiously hopeful

[wind panther]

Whomever it is can afford domain whois obfuscation and has a decent knowledge of NMS lore.

The animated node screen sometimes changes when you click on nodes, like it will change a set to red, but then some of the edge nodes will slowly switch. Not sure if that's a clue or just aesthetics

Based on the line "they can see the tower but not the one inside", there's something hidden on that site somewhere

The Reddit user that posted that image was banned, which is very odd

[analog breach]

Now i think i got THE pic right

[wind panther]

Is that a decoded image from the site?

[analog breach]

If u could call it that. Just throwed it in image search. It very likely fits

[wind panther]

Ah gotcha

Maybe we need a certain number of active connection attempts?

Or click certain nodes in a pattern

[analog breach]

Pic from nestdevelopers.in
Maybe worth sniff around that site too
(Walking titan had sites made specialy for arg )

[analog breach]

Imo its a step count number in this puzzle and There will be more.

If its a real thing.

But now i sleep. Good hunting.

[gilded girder]

Curious, I wonder why the other image is so disorted - and what's that in the lower right corner?
(the one on https://project-skyscraper.com/2005/04/13/quote/)

Is that one of the NASA rovers?

[wind panther]

AI says it's a distorted screen cap from the movie Midsommer?

I have a hard time working that plot into NMS, but the word itself might point to mid-summer release of something

[hard stirrup]

Looks a bit like the robot upstairs in the Anomaly in the room with the teleporter.

[wind panther]

I'm pretty sure that's a whickerman

[gilded girder]

Yeah, after looking at it a bit longer, it looks a bit like an autophage, possibly

[hot trout]

The construct!?

[gilded girder]

That page has an image of a poet, Wallace Stevens, for whom "there was always yet another perception on one of the most basic of questions: Whether reality is real or imagined."

[hard stirrup]

Yeah.

[hot trout]

Huh

[wind panther]

Those are definitely trees in the background. On the right it says that's a distortion overlay covering one of the buildings constructed for the festival

It looks like the top of the yellow triangular building when they set it on fire

Not this exact frame, but I'm not at a computer to scrub through the movie for the exact frame

Crop it down like so

[hot trout]

Theres no sign

[wind panther]

AI distortion removed

[hot trout]

Its... not quite right

[gilded girder]

Is this multiple images combined? Because the rest of the background doesn't look anything like that forest, but that shape is an extremely good match

[hot trout]

Yeah, this is the full image

[gilded girder]

Would explain why there's so many artifacts

[gloomy isle]

I wanna know why they have this image, A GPT(?) poem, and a picture of Wallace Stevens lol

[gilded girder]

So, Wallace Stevens is relevant because he was a modernist, see the comment above

[wind panther]

I didn't have the full image. Here is that one with AI removing the distortion

[hard stirrup]

Yeah, there are no buildings in the clearing behind the antenna looking thing or whatever it is. Either way I think this is largely pointless. We're not getting any NMS clues out of this.

[wind panther]

Looks like a wider shot, looking a little left to more landscape

[compact coyote]

Hm interesting

[wind panther]

Where did that image come from?

[hot trout]

We'd need to find a shot from the actual set to confirm this trail

[hot trout]

https://project-skyscraper.com/2005/04/13/quote/

[gloomy isle]

Aah this does make sense

[hard stirrup]

What is it with AI and wanting to add buildings that are clearly not there in the actual image?

[gloomy isle]

It is a shame they didn't actually quote him though lol

[hot trout]

Thats the bit that confuses me

[gloomy isle]

Since they have his image anyway

[hot trout]

But that bit of "Whether reality was real or imagined"

I feel like that is very relevant to the themes of nms and the existentialism it presents

[gloomy isle]

Oh absolutely yeah

I feel like up until now, most of this is set dressing and references tbh

To tee it up

[gilded girder]

The last line of that, "They are the unseen that watches the night", could that be a reference to The Night Watchmen by Klimt, which used "a previously unseen" technique?

A combination of X-ray fluorescence and ptychography were used to identify and visualize the sub-microscale chemical compounds along the canvas’ lower layers. The analysis revealed a lead-rich layer below the quartz-clay ground layer.

(I'm probably reaching there)

[hard stirrup]

Maybe it's supposed to imply that an AI is mimicking his behavior and trying to act as though he were still alive...that was a thing in Waking Titan too, iirc. With like an AI using the likeness and voice of deceased people, promoting as a thing to remember them by.

[gilded girder]

Or, it could be saying, there's something beneath the image displayed 🤔

[gloomy isle]

AI aside there's clearly a lot of thought put into this

[summer briar]

Has anyone posted the building image with rgb filters over it yet?

[gloomy isle]

It's cohesive to a point where I struggle to believe it's one person

[summer briar]

It looks like some pieces go missing once you put each filter over.

[hot trout]

Do we know whether the poem is AI-generated?

[hard stirrup]

Don't know but it seems useless...at this point it's like trying to draw meaning by reading shapes in the clouds.

[gloomy isle]

It's not from Stevens, and it does have all the tells

[compact coyote]

Yeah it seems like a lot to manage for one person only. But who knows

[gilded girder]

I don't know if it's AI, but it's not quoted (as in, not from elsewhere). Also, the date given was not a Sunday.

[hot trout]

Its registered under one user, who is apparently french-speaking

But multiple people can be using the same account

[gloomy isle]

This is still the biggest thing for me

[hot trout]

The post basically is them knowing theyd be removed

[compact coyote]

It’s weird

[hard stirrup]

I'm guessing not unless it's a fan thing. But if this is legit tied to Hello Games in some way it's probably crafted by some ARG company like Alice & Smith did waking titan.

[gloomy isle]

It's mainly the fact they tried to ban the account and the system reversed it ngl

Like that doesn't just happen unless it's some sort of weird technical thing I guess

[hot trout]

Did they try to ban the account after the AI moderator already removed it?

[gloomy isle]

I don't think so. But from what they're saying the AI moderator's decision has never been reversed before

[hot trout]

Not without direction from an admin, I assume

[gloomy isle]

Yeah true

Or someone with permissions they shouldn't have

[hot trout]

What's a WoL magic packet? Lol

[gilded girder]

I suspect they might be in on it, blocking and restoration seems to be part of an NMS theme.

[gloomy isle]

At the very least it's a bit of a tip off. One of the moderators seems to think so

[gilded girder]

Especially since the "AI" did it (wouldn't it be more normal to call it a bot?)

[hard stirrup]

Maybe ARG theme but not so much NMS. So far this has very little to do with NMS and the images are unrelated nonsense.

Not even any mentions of the Atlas or anything, only of Atlas-65 which is about the ETARC community forum, not about the game itself.

[gloomy isle]

The only concrete related thing I've seen is what Astaroth saw, the profile picture is of the Atlas tower

Though waking titan barely referenced the game either at first. At least season 1

[compact coyote]

There’s a lot of 16 in there

Yeah

[hot trout]

Wait...

Blue bird?

Btw would this have anything to do with the tower picture?

[summer briar]

Here's the tower image with different color filters over it. Looks like the lady reading who is duplicated in the original image has the duplicate disapper in the green filter.

[hard stirrup]

Nobody knows...but it shouldn't be the actual skycraper image...even scrambled it should look a lot lighter than this....this seems like it would be a dark image...maybe at night or in a dark building or something like that.

[hot trout]

Is it a spectrogram?

[hard stirrup]

Could be.

[wind panther]

What account is registered to one person? The domain is hosted at an obfuscation service

[gloomy isle]

If that info is coming from that ETARC user's website, it's all vibe coded and written by AI so I wouldn't personally trust it to be true

The French thing is interesting though because Alice and Smith are French Canadian

[hot trout]

The account is "The Architect"

It apparently has another domain connected to it that has french words I forgot

This is the website
https://theskyscraperarchitect-ywvhk.wordpress.com/

HOLD UP

I found a website that converts images to audio, so you can use a spectrogram image to get audio

[hot trout]

This image gave some sounds like beeps and other techy noises, which I guess would be expected, but didnt seem quite right

It looked kinda like a spectrogram that was rotated

So I rotated the image

[gloomy isle]

The fact there's a twitch channel says they're planning on going quite far with this I think

[hot trout]

The rotated image has noises that sound vaguely like speach

When I rotated it in the opposite direction, the sounds had a cadence like reversed speech

[gloomy isle]

Will have to give that a go tomorrow

I have to go to bed now, work tomorrow 🙃

[hot trout]

Idk whether I can send this

Oh I can

[gloomy isle]

One other heat thing, the twitter link on the twitch page is named Blue Bird lol

Another reference

[hot trout]

I dont have enough knowledge about audio stuff to figure out if I'm actually on the right track

[gloomy isle]

Yeah it does have a cadence to it ngl

I don't know if it's just pattern recognition but I hear it too

[compact coyote]

Where is that audio from

[hot trout]

I rotated the image the account posted on reddit and put it into an image to audio player

The main reason I noticed a resemblance is because I play voices of the void, lol

I could still be wrong about this, but I definitely wanna let others know of the possibility

[wind panther]

Ah the WordPress french is more convincing to me. Of course a forum account would be tied to one user, because how could you do otherwise?

[compact coyote]

We gotta stay on the look out for that Wordpress page to come out

[gilded girder]

Hmm, if I squint at the original image it kind of looks like text - like those 3d pics you needed red + blue glasses to see

[summer briar]

It almost sounds like the audio is saying numbers

This is one where I rotated the image like someone said above and filtered the spectogram to only one color, in this case green.

[hot trout]

It starts off kinda sounding like numbers

I was also trying to change the image height after rotating to see whether it was altered after being made to a spectrogram

I dont think thats the case

[summer briar]

I'll post the other ones here as well.

And then here's the audios merged again.

[compact coyote]

Huh that sounds very interesting

[summer briar]

Sounds like 1 0 1 5 9 0 0 7 7 5 1 6 to me, but it's not really clear. The 7 7 sounds pretty clear though.

[hot trout]

Can you slow this one to the same speed as the color filtered ones?

[summer briar]

Here ya go

[hot trout]

I almost hear it as 171900778

[compact coyote]

Yeah I think i definitely hear numbers

This could be the real deal

[hot trout]

It sounds close to Unix time numbers

Ok so I'm getting two main things if I am hearing the numbers vaguely correct

[summer briar]

Oooh it could be unix numbers to line up with the memory bloc numbers

[hot trout]

If its Unix time, and correlates to a nearby date, I keep getting June 21, 2024

I cant tell whether theres an additional digit, though, and if so it reads September 24, 2514

[gilded girder]

The memory blocs on the site are unix timestamps

No idea what that tells us, unless we're supposed to notice something in the timings

[hot trout]

Yeah, but try as I might, I dont hear numbers as a recent time

Imma take a break from analyzing this for now and immerse myself into the eldritch to expand my thinking

[gilded girder]

Personally I'm still thinking it's a distorted image of text, but I have no idea how to work with it

[humble kayak]

i leave for five goddamn minutes and come back to a potential ARG

I'm here for it

[wind panther]

I'm pretty convinced, personally

[hard stirrup]

Nothing interesting has come of it so far...no clues that led to anything, none of the scrambled images led to anything good, etc. Waking Titan already had stuff like leading people to youtube channels and locations and so on.

[humble kayak]

pretty sure you're like 40 years my senior so this feels hypocritical to say, but,

patience

I don't think we've known about this for very long at all

This whole thing could be BS, granted, because tmk we havent seen anything that indicates this is official

But it certainly seems real

[hard stirrup]

I'm not that old. But I don't think this will be anything as large as Waking Titan was even if this is connected to Hello Games. We still have expeditions and updates and so on coming this year, they don't need to cover for like year long gap with no updates. If this is actually linked to HG it will probably be something smaller and shorter to hype up the anniversary update coming in August.

[humble kayak]

Yeah it might not be as big as WT, as you said

I'm trying to wrap my mind around something that we have next to 0 data on

which is a fool's errand

But my heart desperately wishes this is LNF related

[wind panther]

If everyone didn't look at waking titan because no one had figured anything out, no one would have ever figured anything out. Same thing here

If you personally don't care, fine, but don't shit on other people that are interested

[humble kayak]

i doubt it is, though

not with our current knowledge base anyhow

What's interesting, though, is ThatBomberBoi brought up on the Atlas forums that Skyscraper wasn't NMS' early codename, it's the engine's name

IE this might not be exclusive to NMS

[wind panther]

I think it was both

But definitely the engine

It's definitely simulation and technology related in some way, but we have no clue what lore approach LNF will have

It could also be a simulation

[humble kayak]

oh as a side thing, gumsk i saw your bio with the philosophy part; someone in your line of work must have a field day with the ideas the NMS storyline puts forward

[wind panther]

Yeah, I enjoy it, but it's not terribly deep into the concepts. It's fun though

It's nice to see people actually think about stuff, too

[hard stirrup]

Seems unlikely...though it's not clear as we see something like the Atlas in the LNF trailer. Not a lot of links to NMS but the first entry is dated Jan 1 1970(when computers started tracking time) with the header "HELLO, WORLD" which is reminiscent of one of the remembrance logs. And it has the line at the bottom that says "The sky is not the limit." so if this is linked to HG it's probably not about LNF as the sky is the limit in LNF since it's a one planet game.

[humble kayak]

i sure as hell hope not tbh but I personally think it's quite likely to be the case

oh hi bomber

[grizzled apex]

its definitely fun to look at and is scratching an old itch I've had since WT S2 ended haha, so im not complaining. Might not end up being official but it's fun to work toward regardless

[humble kayak]

It seems pretty well done even if it's not official

[grizzled apex]

There's a few timestamp shenanigans going on with the community mission (was supposed to end today in ~ 4.5 hours but got pushed to next week). Might get a singularity style expedition to tie the two together potentiallly?

[wind panther]

Sky is not the limit could easily mean "no man's sky" is not the limit; we can do more with the engine. I'm not saying that is the intent, but it wouldn't be a reach to me

[humble kayak]

and I'm trying to kill time until the deep rock galactic: rogue core launch anyhow so i dont really mind if this whole thing turns out to be a bust

[wind panther]

I was thinking a small update with expedition in late March, so that makes sense

I'm killing time waiting on appointments on my phone 🙂

[grizzled apex]

The ties to sleep and "waking up the system" seem to tie in to WT S2's ending pretty directly, so even if it's fanmade it seems like someone who's well versed with the last ARG

[humble kayak]

while you're here I'd actually like your opinion on smth related to this potential ARG

[analog breach]

Any new leads?

[humble kayak]

some prominent investigator on the atlas forums, just a community member who worked hard on deciphering WT, put up a site cataloguing all the progress on this ARG

and they mentioned that this thing is slated to run for a year (or could possibly run for a year, something to that affect)

Is that conjecture?

Or is there something to that

[grizzled apex]

it's based on some of the pages mentioning memory blocs 0-365

so the obvious conclusion is it referring to a full year

[hard stirrup]

Oh crap...I had no idea. If an expedition had lauched tomorrow I would have been totally screwed. I still have a lot to do before finalizing my pet lineup. I won't finish in the next week but I'll be pretty well set up. At least finished collecting, breeding, and gene editing pets. Maybe even finished maxing their trust if not finished leveling them up. A week more right now is a godsend.

[grizzled apex]

But I guess that "countdown" will probably begin once the blocs actually start being unlocked

[humble kayak]

we shouldve placed bets Spirit

[humble kayak]

I see

I wasn't sure because a year is a long time

[grizzled apex]

There isnt an actual expedition lined up so far (I keep checking daily to be sure though), but the next community mission is marked to start 4 hours after the current one ends which kinda piqued my interest since the normal ones usually start up immediately after the last one ends.

[humble kayak]

and IF it's LNF related then a year is....

rough

[wind panther]

I don't think they'd do a full year lead up, but who knows

If they released a good trailer or demo and a fixed date, they could maybe maintain interest for one year

[grizzled apex]

How long did WT run for? In my mind it was a pretty long activity but my memory's probably fuzzy

[humble kayak]

idk i wasn't there for it

from what i've heard it ran reasonably long though

[wind panther]

Some of the timestamps are in the past, aren't they? Maybe it's a year starting from some point before present

[humble kayak]

I think six months??? but

i have no idea what i'm talking about so

[analog breach]

Both atlas tower and landscape pics where distorted.... corelation ?? Tried to put images on top of eachother ?

[wind panther]

What did you do to clean up the tower image? Or did you just find a clean image?

[analog breach]

I found clear on the net

[wind panther]

I assume it is using a fixed pattern for the distortion, and we have to discover the pattern to clean it up

Someone on a computer should give the distorted image and clean image to an AI and ask what distortion pattern was applied

I'm not able right now

[humble kayak]

i'll take one for the team

what image do you want me to ask it about

the tower one or

[hard stirrup]

I have finished the biggest thing I was afraid of losing. I locked in the expedition reward pets that could be re-rolled to SSS in my main save, fully gene edited and everything. So if HG decide to eliminate that like they did when they stopped Atlas Scepters from being re-rollable into something good, well...too late. I already have the good ones locked in.

[wind panther]

Are those the right two?

Doesn't look like an exact match, but it's definitely the same tower

[humble kayak]

Google says that's the Atlas Building

if I'm looking at the right one

[analog breach]

That we know.

[hard stirrup]

There is an "Atlas" building? Where?

[humble kayak]

London

[wind panther]

Apparently Atlas Building is the proper name, just to help finding it

145 City Road, if the address ends up being important

It's near The Eye, if that's of interest

[analog breach]

Post code - EC1V 1AZ

[humble kayak]

yk on that number sequence, this one

I'm no computer nerd so i decided to throw shit at a wall and see what stuck, and swapped the digits for letters

like an alphanumeric cipher

[wind panther]

Ok, after looking at the pictures more, that is an exact match. If you look at it as 5 columns and shift columns 2 and 4 up, it matches

[humble kayak]

it comes out to "AGAI" and then gibberish

Perhaps the numbers are being heard wrong?

and it leads to a message?

I acknowledge it's a stretch but maybe it could lead somewhere

[analog breach]

Site from where pic was in https://nestdevelopers.in/

Blue bird... nest ....hmmmm

[wind panther]

AI says the landscape photo uses horizontal displacement on a channel basis

The Atlas picture is definitely a vertical displacement on channels

Doesn't look like the same width or displacement amount, though, so I doubt we can just figure out the pattern on the Atlas Building and reverse it on the landscape

I think I can clean up that landscape when I get home, but not automatically nor quickly

I'm wondering if the column/row numbers that need to shift and/or the number of pixels shifted matter. I'll try to save the data later just in case

[wind panther]

No tineye matches

That's from chatgtp, fyi. Can't do things manually on my phone. It might be hallucinating some, but it seems pretty good

[humble kayak]

Someone should go get that Geoguesser guy

we'd know within like 20 minutes

[wind panther]

That bottom right looks mangled, but it also looks like a correct removal of distortion. Anyway, I've got no clue

[near forge]

„Hello World“ is also the message that comes up when reaching the end of the abandoned building logs and trying to further interact with the terminal, yes?

And a bit more unrelated, the boundary failure one was even weirder, I keep getting this „Error…Error…They can see you!“ message ever since finishing them.

I had totally forgotten about this but now I‘m wondering who they are

Ah I just checked the abandoned building terminals actually go „Hello World!“ with an exclamation mark, gives them a very different tone from Remembrance.

[indigo estuary]

Hello

[near forge]

And to add to this, „they can see you“ also appeared when interacting with an Observatory terminal as part of the korvax base scientist mission.

[wind panther]

Hello World is a traditional first programming project. It's common to use it as a starting message for things

10 PRINT HELLO WORLD

[near forge]

I‘m aware, but the difference between the way it is depicted in remembrance and the abandoned building terminal is interesting.

The latter one almost seems to be mocking it or something.

[wind panther]

I do think "Overload consequences unpredictable." And the current attempted connections are related

[grizzled apex]

seems to link directly to the ETARC investigation thread, looks like the system's happy attempting connections outwards, but isnt keen on anyone checking it out. I'm guessing us discussing the site itself is being read as interacting with the puzzle?

An overload might be the point where we get actual WT style goals to work towards?

[humble kayak]

soo...we should try and generate, for lack of a better word, clout for it?

If it responds or at least acknowledges people talking about it and discussing it

follow the trail then?

I mean I see it as a little risky bc we still don't know if this whole thing is official

So getting the word out more could be feeding into a wild goose chase

But the odds of that, considering how deep this seems to go, seem low

At least to me

[wind panther]

I mean the interactive animation where you click on nodes and at the bottom it says number of current attempted connections

[humble kayak]

Folks on the atlas forums say that getting 16 attempted connections, as far as they can tell, doesn't do anything

[grizzled apex]

I'm guessing the puppet master's latching on to public forums of discussion to tie progress to. Might be worth checking if there's a subreddit for this / making one since that's the other place they're monitoring.

[humble kayak]

So it'd need more than that number

[humble kayak]

The only reddit presence I've seen for this was the one on the main NMS sub, and the LNF sub

But I'll look

[grizzled apex]

Wonder if they'd check out a dedicated research sub for this?

[wind panther]

The first log entry network information is interesting. The source address is on a LAN, and the destination address of . 255

[compact coyote]

There should definitely be a subreddit

[humble kayak]

No luck

I checked every variation of "project skyscraper" I could think of

[grizzled apex]

Yea it being a local address definitely stands out

[wind panther]

Port 9 is normal for a WoL packet. It's interesting that traditionally WoL repeats the same packet 16 times

[humble kayak]

also I have some friends who are into Geoguessr, they think the nature image is some place in francr

Which isn't much, but it checks out given the dungeon master seems to either be French or wants us to think they're french

[grizzled apex]

whatever's trying to wake up the system's in the same spot physically, which kinda feels reminiscent of VM / Atlas in a way

[compact coyote]

More things should happen today maybe

[wind panther]

But it triggers external security

Did anything happen on may 10? Was that a patch day?

[grizzled apex]

Doesnt seem like any patches dropped that day going off the wiki

on any platform

[humble kayak]

Just checked steamdb and the last change I saw was may 4th

nothing mentioning the 10th

[wind panther]

Is 2005 when they started development?

I think that's before development started

[grizzled apex]

might be unrelated or tied to WP cleanup, but a bunch of pre-releases pages were updated on the nms site going by the sitemap

which is the same date as the last release

[humble kayak]

That's even before Joe Danger

might not be tied to any HG project, not in a literal sense anyway

[hard stirrup]

NMS? Not likely...that was a full 11 years before NMS...I think Sean was still at EA or something back then.

[grizzled apex]

Im pretty sure HG wasnt around in 2005

[humble kayak]

Yeah I think HG was only founded in like 08

Or 09

[wind panther]

If it matters, April 13 2005 was a Wednesday, not a Sunday morning

[grizzled apex]

HG's going back in time to drop NMS updates pre-release 😛

[wind panther]

That poem sounds like clues for how we are supposed to manipulate that image, something with the blue channel, maybe contrast changes, maybe an inversion, then possibly convert to audio

The interactive node web thing, the connecting lines will sometimes change depending on which node you select. Sometimes new connection lines appear

Actually I don't think it's tracking what node you click on. You can click off nodes. The red lights up when the node gets within a certain distance of the spot you clicked

[grizzled apex]

the profile header used by the account on ETARC has the filename C0nnect1ng_d0ts.jpg too, but seems to be another public domain image without much alteration

Oh wow the user's super active on ETARC, last seen there 5 minutes ago

[wind panther]

That looks exactly like the nodes view

[grizzled apex]

it's location being erased on ETARC could be a hint too. Sounds like a one-to-one for the Void Mother honestly.

[wind panther]

I'm wondering if we should be talking there. If they are watching there they might give more relevant hints

God I just started going through the ETARCS thread. I should have done that earlier

[humble kayak]

good luck

That took me the better part of 45 minutes

[grizzled apex]

Having a centralized place to throw information to build on would be useful. It's also pretty in-spirit w/ WT haha

[grizzled apex]

Managed to read about have of it groggy-eyed right out of bed before I tried actually making sense of it all 😅

[rigid monolith]

hello, is this a decent place to talk about the supposed leaks, or is that bad juju for this channel

[humble kayak]

This is the perfect place for it

[humble kayak]

Yeah man I'm at the other end of the spectrum

It's three in the morning here and I want to go to sleep

But I can't, I'm too curious about this mystery

[grizzled apex]

oh believe me, ill be on that end of the spectrum before the day ends haha

[rigid monolith]

what mystery is this, sounds fun

[humble kayak]

there's an ARG going on

We don't know if it's official

But it seems like it might be

[rigid monolith]

oh shi? what's square one?

[humble kayak]

uhhh I don't have the link it's project skyscraper

You can find more on the Atlas forum

All the information is there

Well, all that we know

this could be an extension of waking titan, it could be something new, it could be a really intricate troll by a tech savvy frenchman

nobody knows yet

[rigid monolith]

bruh

[humble kayak]

lol yeah

the older fans here will have more context since I wasn't around for the first two ARGs

So I don't know what's normal and what's not

[rigid monolith]

i found the link a little higher up, tried opening it on phone, this popped up

both ask me to make an account

[humble kayak]

that's presumably part of the ARG that just isn't ready yet

I think

[rigid monolith]

huh

[humble kayak]

Check this forum https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/project-skyscraper-no-mans-sky-arg/9095

[rigid monolith]

what're the connection attempts based on?

[grizzled apex]

the "system" in question seems to be trying to "connect" by posting to different nms related forums

the first attempt was to this forum, where it was first automatically blocked and then reinstated by the forum's system

[rigid monolith]

i saw 2 connections

[grizzled apex]

There was another post on the nms subreddit, which got the entire account banned off reddit

[gloomy isle]

Seems to be a count of people visiting the front page

[rigid monolith]

of what, ETARC? or the project?

[gloomy isle]

The project

[rigid monolith]

anybody done an image to audio of 16 connections? or does the background node inagre remain constant regardless of number of connections?

[analog breach]

Was 23 like 9h ago

[rigid monolith]

oh demn

[rigid monolith]

not gonna lie, sounds a lot like the atlas deleting any and all stuff that could lead to us figuring this out

[analog breach]

Atm need to wait for another post from architect i guess. For another crumb to follow

[rigid monolith]

true

but yeah, whats with the supposed leaks?

[grizzled apex]

what "leaks"?

[analog breach]

?? Can u say more? 👀

[gloomy isle]

Tuning back in this morning, won't be able to participate much since work is busy

Looks like there's quite a bit to this

[analog breach]

Dont wory. Will have oportunity to catch up since speculations suggeat that this could be something with longer time period

[gloomy isle]

Yeah that was the impression I was getting yesterday. Seems like it's ramping up by itself atm

[analog breach]

Or untill pepole will find next crumb hint

[gloomy isle]

Also yeah @rigid monolith what leaks? I don't think any of us have heard of anything

[cursive kernel]

Curious

[icy citrus]

None of this is spoilers though

We'll get a channel or thread up for it

[analog breach]

thx

[icy citrus]

#project-skyscraper

[humble kayak]

Thank you Gleam!

[near forge]

Nice

[native carbon]

what did i miss what is going on

[hard stirrup]

Mine went from 1 when I first visited the site to 16 and now back to 7...I think it's randomized.

[grizzled apex]

it's actually the number of live users

[hard stirrup]

I meant to reply to this earlier and I forgot. If there is a 4 hour unusual delay I am guessing that means HG intend to patch something in there to intercede and change the order. So I very much suspect something is up...small content update or new expedition or something. And the one week delay is also sus, they probably didn't want this one to finish or they'd have to rush and end the next one in a week if they plan to add something to change the order. So I think this is enough to treat next Wednesday as a potential drop date for something. It's also unusual we didn't get an expedition with Xeno Arena...I'm guessing they wanted to make sure Switch 1 and 2 have the update and fixes first so they don't entirely miss another expedition.

[grizzled apex]

Welp, we have a weekend for an emoji to find out for sure, and whether or not HG upload an actual expedition serverside in the meantime.

[native carbon]

this may sound stupid but HG can drop the big 10th anniversary update any time of the year

like it can be this update, or the late one

probably nah, summer 100% but keep that in mind

ngl i just want em to fix the bugs man....

[hard stirrup]

They will likely align it with the actual anniversary, or later but not earlier than the anniversary. Since they like to release updates on Wednesdays probably August 12th...that would align with the PC release even though PS4 got it a few days earlier.

[native carbon]

oh didnt know a wednesday perfectly aligns with a PC release, yeah that date for sure

[grizzled apex]

Oh damn I didn't realize the 12th was a wednesday this time. That sounds like such a perfect opportunity, really hope HG don't miss it.

[hard stirrup]

Yeah, timing would be perfect if they can pull it off.

[molten karma]

People forget that Waking Titan was for Atlas Rises and NEXT. What if they have something similar planned? Atlas Rises was huge foundationally but got expanded next year. Plus the time framing aligns pretty similarly tbh.

Waking Titan season 1 which led to the Atlas Rises update.
Which went from May 28th 2017 to August 07th 2017 then Atlas Rises released August 11th 2017
The phases in more depth dates went like this.

Season 1
Phase 1 Phase 1 of Waking Titan lasted from 2017-05-28 to 2017-07-08.
Phase 2 Phase 2 of Waking Titan lasted from 2017-07-21 to 2017-08-05.
Phase 3 Phase 3 of Waking Titan lasted from 2017-08-05 to 2017-08-07.

So NEXT ARG Waking Titan Season 2 went from December 28th 2017 to July 20th 2018 and NEXT came out July 24th 2018.
The phases looked like

Season 2
Phase 4 Phase 4 of Waking Titan lasted from 2017-12-28 to 2018-06-01.
Phase 5 Phase 5 of Waking Titan lasted from 2018-06-01 to 2018-07-20.
Phase 6 Phase 6 of Waking Titan began and ended on 2018-07-20.

[hard stirrup]

Yeah, no. Waking Titan served a very deliberate purpose of covering a gap of a year without updates, that's not happening now. Even if this one is somehow backed by Hello Games(which I very much doubt) then it will be a very short think leading to the anniversary update...but we'll probably have something smaller before then like an expedition and maybe small content update.

[hot trout]

Ive kinda thought that HG might have a pause on larger updates for nms when lnf comes out due to a likely overlap in the player audience

[molten karma]

Atlas Rises waking titan is literally the same time period. May 28th to August 7th which is roughly the same timeline we're in right now roughly. It then stopped and started back up from December 28th to 08 20th the next year for NEXT. I think you misread my post because I'm saying it can be a two parter like Waking Titan. Waking Titan did not run an entire year straight. It was broken up between two updates that lasted roughly a year between both.

So if this is going based off Waking Titan for Atlas Rises this is the exact same time period.

[hard stirrup]

And I don't think that means anything at all.

[molten karma]

Just off by a couple of days.

[molten karma]

Neither is your baseless NUH UH comment

It's more so we'll see but right now based on previous ARG's this is aligning up more so then it isn't. Right now we just need confirmation if this is actually from HG or not.

[hard stirrup]

And you're assuming this is a year long ARG backed by Hello Games...even the ETARC guys aren't sure about that.

[molten karma]

A year long ARG can literally be for two seperate anniversary updates or two updates in general. You act like literally Worlds Part 1 and Part 2 didn't exist it can easily lead into two different anniversary updates or it could even start with NMS 10th anniversary and link to LNF for the second half of it for next year just like it was with Atlas Rises/NEXT. Your argumenet is more baseless then mine.

[hard stirrup]

Maybe but it's too soon...NMS isn't pausing yet...we have the anniversary update for sure and likely something smaller before then. And we don't even have a release date for LNF yet.

[hot trout]

My guess is a major update or extended event for nms followed by smaller/fewer updates

[molten karma]

You are in the same boat of the people that said we wouldn't get another proc gen update and yet we got Worlds Part 1 and 2 8/9 years after.

[hot trout]

But it is true that we dont know when lnf is coming out

[molten karma]

I get being skeptical but like this isn't out of the oridinairy for HG if anything it aligns pretty well with what they've already done. Very similar time period to.

[hard stirrup]

People have been guessing NMS would slow down for YEARS, at one point I thought so too. But I don't think it will until LNF releases at least...maybe not even then, it's kind of hard to say how HG will proceed. They have more than tripled in size since NMS released so they likely have entirely separate dev teams working both games without one slowing the the other...but I do think once LNF releases they'll alternate updates and not release one too close to another.

[molten karma]

HG went on record for supporting both games together several times. I'm sure both will recieve updates even with LNF's release I only see that not being the case if the player base completely falls off.

[hot trout]

When I say "slow down" I mean in generally new stuff. I think itll still get updates, but maybe not as many things like new expeditions and such. It would be a great time to redux many older expeditions in a row

[molten karma]

I think eventually we'll see NMS slow down to one or two updates a year. I think we will see the same update schedule for maybe a year or two after LNF launch. But they confirmed content updates will come for both. I think expeditions will probably stop and they'll just give us the option to replay them anytime or constantly just reroll them seasonally.

[ebon spoke]

Expeditions are probably among the easiest things for them to make. If anything, I think we'd see feature updates slow down in favor of a focus on expeditions with new rewards rather than shiny new things added to the base game

From what I understand, we've actually been in the 'slowed down' period for a while now, anyway. HG are focused mostly on working on LNF and most of the NMS updates are based around either reusing tech developed for that game, or things that are easy to implement. Not that that means small updates, obviously, but what we're seeing now is the low manpower version of NMS updates, supposedly

[median hatch]

Not sure if I could talk about this in general anyone been to the last galaxy?

[hard stirrup]

You mean 255 or 256? But lots of people have.

[distant bronze]

I'd like that if they'd also cycle in those rewards to the proc gen elements, like new outfits they apply to NPCs and such

[hard stirrup]

This is all absolutely not true...last year Worlds Part 2 and Voyagers were insanely massive updates, and this year Xeno Arena was also a massive overhaul of the entire pet system plus the arena. And if you think things are going "slow" now it's because they are almost certainly holding some mega-update for the 10 year anniversary update. Also Hello Games has more than tripled in size since NMS released...at no point did they diminish the NMS update team to focus on LNF.

To say that NMS is going "slow" or that HG took people off working on NMS to focus more on LNF is blatantly false.

[ebon spoke]

Massive updates from a player's perspective sure, but not that big in terms of what's actually changed under the hood. Purple systems are just another system type, gas giants are just another biome. Gas giants have a special atmosphere type, but that's just reusing the system that's already in place for dead planets. The purple system terrain gen relies on the groundwork already set by the planets added in the Origins update. If the engine even needed any work to support giant planets, that would have already been done for LNF. For Voyagers, they straight up said in the deep dive that the tech "is for both games".

Xeno Arena is probably an NMS unique feature, but the overall point is that I don't think there'll be a huge shift in focus away from NMS, because they already are seemingly pretty LNF focused right now and we're still getting good updates regardless.

[sour fossil]

Or just have the old rewards be available in QS shop or as a reward for in game challenges,.like the fishing helmets are

I don't think having Vykeen with Atlas armor of Gek with autophage body would make much sense

[near forge]

I could honestly see this being similar to the AR - NEXT Waking Titan process, but instead we get one huge NMS update, and the 2nd half would be leading up to LNF‘s release; assuming this is an official ARG that‘s really gonna last a year.

Or it could just be all NMS and they are trying to push out one more game-changing update cycle before LNF releases.

I also believe that they‘ll slow down on the NMS side a bit once that releases, especially since LNF will have much more attention from gamers for a while being a new and hyped release.

But all of this boils down to pure speculation, so we‘ll just have to wait and see.

[distant bronze]

atlas armor and autophage no, but the autophage cloaks armor and skyborn gear on say pirate system NPCs, thats a yes

[keen shuttle]

Spreading dissonance, it is just a layer and the main source of Atlas breaking up. If you notice the dissonance layer is almost the last to load when landing

And all the bits of rhetoric talk you get from harmonic scrap

[signal socket]

Hey. So I'm running into a bit of a problem. I have jumped galaxies four times now and I am in survival and the achievement for jumping galaxies is not popping and I thought maybe it was a fluke because I didn't finish the main quest yet so I went and finished tactically the main quest then jumped Galaxy and it's still not even popping so is this just a glitch that everybody else is kind of dealing with?

[hard stirrup]

Go to the game's difficulty settings, at the very top, what does it say? If you changed something to make it harder or whatever that might have shifted the difficulty to Custom.

[signal socket]

Actually thank you for that because this is an old save that I'm using so I might have accidentally changed the difficulty so if I did I'm going to go and check on that. @hard stirrup thank you

[hot trout]

Dissonance is something different from the Atlas' damage manifesting in the simulation

[glass flare]

wait wtf there's a new NMS arg? is this official or some fan thing

[analog breach]

We dont know

[molten karma]

No one knows but I think official personally it aligns up a lot.

[hard stirrup]

We don't know for sure but it's probably fan made. So far none of the clues added up to anything and whoever's running the site kept a bunch of people waiting for hours for a new log only for the log to be "access denied"...soo...it looks more like a troll job.

[hot trout]

I wouldnt consider that a troll as much as the ARG not fully starting yet

[glass flare]

I guess we didn't really know for a bit if Waking Titan was connected to NMS either

[hard stirrup]

Waking Titan was much bigger...from the very start youtubers were getting tapes and the site entries weren't this junky. There is literally nothing to it beyond the connected dots trick...beyond that it's white text on black background...there's like 4 images there and none of it amounts to anything. This has troll written all over it. Nobody got anything, the entries that were supposed to be clues are all nonsense, none of it leads anywhere. And I doubt it will amount to much either.

[glass flare]

fair, too bad. though with Alice & Smith gone(?), I'm not sure if anyone could have put together something that impressive anyway

[near forge]

My gut tells me it‘s real, but maybe I‘m just hoping that.

[humble kayak]

tbf nobody kept anyone waiting

Those who waited, myself included, did so on our own volitions

you're right that nobody knows for certain, though

[humble kayak]

i encourage you to take a peak through the Atlas forums since there's been quite a bit of discussion there. Also Alice & Smith are closer to MIA, someone did some checking earlier and last we heard they had a lot of trouble during covid; were able to salvage the core of the company, but the owners left for greener pastures shortly after

Apparently they were looking into getting a new CEO to take the wheel but we never heard either way

Spirit27 suspects that plan couldve fallen through since, as i said, nobody heard anything since

[glass flare]

i think what's left of A&S is leaning heavy into GenAI and disappointing stuff like that, I don't know if they even have the writing/puzzle staff left to do a full-blown ARG

[humble kayak]

unfortunate

[glass flare]

yeah COVID really screwed them

would've been cool had HG just bought them out and let them run wild with ARGs, and do more real in-game ARG stuff

[humble kayak]

This is what was forwarded to the project skyscraper channel

[glass flare]

yeah I read his linkedin post

[humble kayak]

it's a shame since from what ive heard they did good work

[cosmic anvil]

who are Alice and Smith?

[analog breach]

Company that made waking titan arg

[cosmic anvil]

wait what?? there are companies for this. Surprising

I assumed HG did that one themselves

[analog breach]

Whole hg is atm 60ish pepole. In 2017 it was probably like half of that. they dont had the manpower to spare

[hard stirrup]

Less than half...when NMS launched they had something like 16 people. They more than tripled in size since then.

And according to their linked-in page they are now at 70 people, not 60.

[analog breach]

Last time i checked was 64

But thanks for the update

[glass flare]

I think really Alice & Smith was probably the only company that could pull off something as big as Waking Titan. now that they're out of the picture it's basically companies trying to run smaller ARGs themselves, like what Bungie did with Marathon. it's possible HG could be running this new thing and that's why it seems more low-budget, but it's still probably just a fan/troll

[near forge]

I‘m waiting for the part where we get video footage, there is a project_skyscraper twitch account so it seems rather likely.

[analog breach]

If there will be a cage with hamster chat will go crazy lol

[near forge]

Haha yeah that would be a crazy throwback

[cosmic anvil]

so... 10 years of NMS. Any speculation on what might be cooking?

[hot trout]

My wild guess is a rerun of every previous expedition

[hard stirrup]

Big update...we know that with Voyagers last year they changed save files so players will at some point be able to own up to 8 freighters...so probably some kind of freighter update. With Xeno Arena some kind of dice game was datamined too...too small to be it but could be included. And previously stuff was datamined about purple star seeds but then those files were removed...still...a new story chapter to follow In Stellar Multitudes is also likely.

[hot trout]

GAMBLING UPDATE

[hard stirrup]

Would be kind of cool if you could gamble for ships and multitools and stuff.

[ebon spoke]

If we do get a freighter update we could also see freighters added to abandoned mode.

[cosmic anvil]

that happens every year tho

[cosmic anvil]

GACHA

[analog breach]

Dice? Maybe thats what the small round b&w table was for but hg scraped the idea.

[ebon spoke]

I don't think it's been mentioned here, but they did add a 'ghost hangar' version of the freighter hangar back in The Cursed update. It's definitely placeholder, because it's just the pirate hangar with an extra part added to the exterior to make it fit on regular freighters

[hard stirrup]

Or they'll be played at the same table.

[cosmic anvil]

maybe proper integration of corvettes with the freighter?

rn it looks tacked on

[glass flare]

I still think it'd be fun to play a card game with aliens in a space bar

[ebon spoke]

The dice game is an alternate game meant to be played at the xeno arena table

somebody did mod it to be playable, but it was pretty unfinished.

[vital flint]

It would look nice to have it at the Settlement's Saloon

[analog breach]

Do you think it will be some known dice game or HG oryginal idea

[ebon spoke]

HG may have scrapped it because it sucked, lol. You just take turns rolling a die and adding the number to your score. Whoever gets to 50 first wins. It's really boring to actually play because you don't really do anything

[native carbon]

game of the year

[analog breach]

Rdr2 vibes

[hard stirrup]

It just kind of hovers along...a bit like the frigates...the corvette landing spot is more of a designated hangout spot than a proper landing spot.

[hard stirrup]

Probably a mixture of both if I had to guess.

[analog breach]

I would expect some math based game from hello games

[vital flint]

Could also come with a couple of events... Especially when citizens loose their hard earned money

Though, adding craps to the game could bring some negative PR, couldn't it?

[hard stirrup]

Maybe but it's still weird those files weren't there before Xeno Arena and I don't feel like the switch to pet battles was a last minute thing. There might still be a plan for a dice game of some kind.

[analog breach]

Thats thin ice teritory . Balatro got shited on by pegi just bc they used classic card design and had nothing to do with gambling.

[ebon spoke]

It is interesting the the table is set up to support both games. If they decided to switch from the dice game to the pet battler, or even just used the dice game as a test for the game table, I feel like the pet battler would have overwritten the dice game to some extent.

The table is also called the 'game table' internally, implying it isn't just meant for a specific game like the xeno arena

[analog breach]

I imagine something like horizonFW machine strike

But with nms touch. Proc gen tables and we find procedural playing pieces for it

[vital flint]

Sounds like a "logical" result nowadays. I mean, they could add Yu-Gi-Oh or Uno or even DnD dice rolling-alikes to the game without much fuss, but ordinary cards/dice...

[analog breach]

But pegi is ok with lootboxes in pegi 3 games... ugh 🤢

[vital flint]

Isn't this part of that legal dispute Valve/Steam is having in the US?

[analog breach]

Im not familiar with it. And we kind got offtopic

[humble kayak]

Bee emoji!!!

[ebon spoke]

Hell of a timing on that ARG, if it's not official

[midnight saffron]

Well bees are technically architects.

[humble kayak]

the puppet master would have no solid way of knowing when an update would drop

So it's either coincidental or

Well

But I'm still hesitant to categorize it as anything other than fanmade

Not because I'm burned by past hoaxes or anything I just don't want to get my hopes up

Also we're supposed to keep an eye out for the 28th according to the arg

[ebon spoke]

could have guessed based on time since the last update, though if I were doing that I would have aimed for the 20th rather than the 27th because that would be six weeks, the usual expedition length

[humble kayak]

True, but the window is 6 to 8 weeks

And so far both previous updates landed on the 8th week

so if it were me I would've waited one more week

that's in june sometime idk what day

It's a crazy guess though since HG really don't have "tells" until sean drops an emoji, as we all know by now lol

[midnight saffron]

Are we absolutely sure the arg isn't from hello games.

[hot trout]

We do not know

[midnight saffron]

well all this is a little too coincidental

[compact coyote]

lol yeah

[glass flare]

ohh beeeeees

was there anything scheduled to drop soon from the arg?

[hidden moth]

im not sure the arg is official

or was that ever confirmed

[molten karma]

ARGS and bees makes me think of the Halo 2 ARG I love bees.

[glass flare]

Summer Games Fest is in 12 days hmm

[hard stirrup]

Literally nothing to do with the ARG. Zero. There was always going to be at least one more thing before August. If there wasn't, then a mini ARG would make sense.

[molten karma]

Bruh we get it you think it's fake.

[hard stirrup]

Called this a few days ago when BomberBoy said the current community quest was supposed to end last wednensday but was extended a week and it received an irregular 4 hour gap before the would be next community mission.

[ebon spoke]

Maybe, but they got it down to the right week. If it's fake then that's pretty lucky

Obviously, there's no way the bee update is the payoff to the arg. But if it is official, the update itself may have some content for it

[hard stirrup]

This could very well be just an expedition and nothing else, but if there is some actual meaning to the honeybee emoji I see it as one of two things:

1. Some sort of animal husbandry...building pens putting creatures in, feeding them for their products, that sort of thing.
2. The first Xeno Arena seasonal content.

[molten karma]

Has HG ever had two similar updates back to back before aside from Worlds? I always feel they try to do something different every other update instead of doing the same thing again.

[distant bronze]

Could also be introducing a type of farmable local creature on planets, hive creatures with structures, similar to bees in minecraft maybe. Thats one option, another is the potential of hostile "Hives" or "Colony" POIs that we could be directed towards?

[hard stirrup]

Even the Worlds updates didn't release back to back. But Xeno Arena seasonal content is supposed to be a regular thing like the expeditions...if this update is primarily just an expedition and first Arena seasonal content then they may not have a huge selection of appropriate emoji. Though animal farming would be huge...I hope it happens, even if not this update. We desperately need it.

[molten karma]

Yeah you're right Aquarius released after I just kind of forgot. I kind of hope for farming similar to Minecraft at least. The only other thing mechanically I'd want is a overhaul to onground combat and factions to mean something especially with bad standing/war. Having bad standing causes NPCs to shoot you on sight, zero g combat, pirate settlements with wild west shoot outs unless you're in good standing with pirate faction. Onground bounty hunts, or space combat leading to onfoot. Some of that is a pipe dream buts its the last feature I'd personally want outside of farming and bug fixes/MP being fixed for coop play.

I think POIs can use some love too especially with Corvettes not having landing pads.

[hard stirrup]

That would be pretty useless. We can already farm creatures where they are and most animal products we need don't come from creatures that are part of hives or colonies. No, we need actual animal pens...probably large encolsures like the bio-domes are for plants. And we need to be able to bring creatures from all over to these enclosures so we can have all the various animal products being made in one or two places...not needing a dozen different bases for all these things.

[grizzled apex]

Funnily enough, this cm was slated to end on the 20th (and the next one slated to start 4 hours later, which kinda looked like an update Indicator), before it was shifted to 27

[humble kayak]

you think it was just a lucky guess then?

[grizzled apex]

I think they pushed whatever 🐝 is by a week personally.

Could be for the ARG (if official, ofc), could be fore entirely different reasons. They've done this a few times before too, so it's not unique

[humble kayak]

i meant the ARG's timing being a lucky guess, assuming it's fanmade

but i do see your points

[grizzled apex]

Honestly, they've had some insane luck so far if it is fanmade.

[humble kayak]

that's what I'm thinking too

[hard stirrup]

Which I mean, holy crap, if this update had launched last Wednesday I would have been screwed pretty hard. But the way things are going right now I should be able to 100% finish leveling up and maxing the trust of my pets my pets on Tuesday night. Literally making it by the skin of my teeth. Would have liked it if my pets all had time to mature but this will be just good enough...barely.

[humble kayak]

lol i told you it'd be in may

dont ask me why HG aren't doing the 3 month gap thing anymore

hell if i know

[hard stirrup]

Couldn't have rushed things more, I was forces waiting for some pets to mature and lay eggs on another save...that left me with about a week where I couldn't make any progress.

[grizzled apex]

If there's one pattern you can discern for HG's behaviour, it's that they love breaking patterns.

[humble kayak]

🗣️ 🔥

very true

[hard stirrup]

Well, they probably still are...this might be an expedition only update...which should have launched with Xeno Arena but was probably delayed so Switch players wouldn't miss out.

[humble kayak]

according to bomberboi there's no exped loaded

at least not yet

[grizzled apex]

no expedition queued serverside yet. They usually leave those up ~ a monthish in advance, so I'd be really surprised if one popped up a few days before release now

I'll keep checking intermittently before the drop though.

[hard stirrup]

They can schedule it in the servers in five minutes the night before. Just because it's not already scheduled in the servers doesn't mean anything.

[grizzled apex]

Between that and Project Skyscraper there's a lotta things to keep track of haha

[hard stirrup]

I wouldn't waste any time and energy on skycraper at all. If it was official HG would have been reaching out to youtubers privately and they'd be all over it...wouldn't be quote tweeting them and getting completely ignored. It's a waste of time that has nothing to do with the actual game or actual updates.

[grizzled apex]

everyone can choose how to use their own time and be happy with it 🙂

i honestly couldn't care less if skyscraper isn't official. It's a fun thing to put my time and energy towards, and I feel like I don't have to validate that choice by looking for an official HG stamp of approval.

I'm rolling with the expectation that it's fan made, but slightly hoping that it might be official. Doesn't affect my enjoyment of the journey anyway.

[hard stirrup]

All I'm saying is if it's not about the actual game just consider how much it sets you back from in game progress.

[grizzled apex]

you should also consider that not everyone's trying to min-max their progress in this game to the point they have to micromanage their time for it.

I'm at a point in game where I can comfortably do nothing. I enjoy existing in the universe and the community it fosters more than getting a higher stat or number.

[analog breach]

We know

[glad kernel]

[river surge]

What do we think the next update will be off of that emoji ?

[hard stirrup]

Probably something really small like expedition only, first seasonal content for the Xeno Arena, maybe a small update...that sort of thing.

[river surge]

That sucks lol

[hard stirrup]

Well not really...we do have a huge update almost certainly lined up for August for the 10 year anniversary of NMS. And maxing out all the Xeno Arena content has been a stressful two months...not even done yet, but I should be done Tuesday night, just hours before whatever this is. I'd be incredibly happy for something short and sweet so I can relax a bit before we are hit with the anniversary update.

[river surge]

Yeah Birthday update should defo be big for sure

[lone laurel]

It could be a play on words like normal, my hunch is that is has to do with hive. as in sentinels

[nimble heath]

What’s the community rumors on what this is about to be?

[hard stirrup]

Zero rumors, all guesses, nobody has the slightest clue. Likely something small, could be expedition only.

[nimble heath]

I love it.

[midnight saffron]

expedition to tie in with the skyscraper ARG

[grizzled apex]

Oh shit

Not only did HG upload an expedition

One of the version number indicators that the server expects went up from 13400 to 13500

I believe the last time that happened was with Voyagers or WP2?

Doesnt mean the update is massive ofc, take any patterns with a grain of salt

No start date set yet but ill keep checking. might mean that the exped will launch after the update if it isnt set soon.

[grizzled apex]

Checked, was with Voyagers last. Not sure when it changed before, but this one doesnt change every update

[cosmic anvil]

B

[native carbon]

B

[midnight saffron]

Well a long time ago Martin Griffiths did say they were looking into to optimize large scall build for both corvettes and base building bees work as a group to make a large bee hives. Maybe this update is that a large scale optimization of the build system so we can make large scale build together as a community.

[cosmic anvil]

that's pretty good actually

@hot trout world of Glass in-game finally?

[grizzled apex]

I think this update might contain the Redactions Martin kinda teased on twt. Probably some good optimisations and engine cleanup on the backend.

[cosmic anvil]

in prep for any potential BIG update in August?

[hard stirrup]

I'd be surprised if this update is more than an expedition. Maybe first seasonal Arena content too if we're lucky. But they have loads of time to set the expedition start time before Wednesday...maybe they're holding off to keep people wondering when update will release, and that might work if updates weren't always on a Wednesday....or at least haven't been on another day of the week for years.

[cosmic anvil]

wait, it could be like bees produce honey -> affectionate term for couples -> romance update 😭

/jk

[grizzled apex]

Dunno, the server's also expecting a pretty big changenumber delta from our current version, but it did the same thing for Xeno Arena. Could be that their "current" working build was just boosted up to that high by whatever this update is though. The changenumber delta for voyagers was also pretty big. Might just mean that theyve been working really hard on background things that we won't see till later though.

[hard stirrup]

Right now I am excited to get to see the expedition rewards...what awesome stuff will expedition bring?

[cosmic anvil]

I really hope it is something for me this time (story wise/expedition)

cause I absolutely did not connect with Xeno

[grizzled apex]

Time will tell! At least till Wednesday

[hard stirrup]

I think this expedition would have released with the Xeno Arena update if not for Switch. HG likely held it back so that the Switch platforms wouldn't miss out. Combine with the bee emoji and I'd give it pretty solid odds that there will be some Arena fighting in the expedition. How much? Hard to say...maybe only a bit or maybe a lot or somewhere inbetween...but probably some.

[cosmic anvil]

oh noo, if they add that to the expedition, I probably will pass it on.

But what you say has precedent — the expeditions usually incorporate features of the update that went before or with it. Like how the garbage expedition locked us to one planet and had us trucking the whole time.

[distant bronze]

oooh, maybe with consistent group set down base builds that group members with permissions can work on even when the person who set it down is offline.

[hot trout]

I doubt it. I still feel like the world of glass is meant to be a mysterious place thats nigh-inescapable

[native carbon]

No mans sky ANNIVERSARY part 1

[analog breach]

Maybe time limited? 16min raid and gather what u can

[cosmic anvil]

Ready to make another pact? 😂

[hot trout]

Hmm... 16 minutes is incidentally important, so idk if it would have to be that, but ifo about the idea overall, lol

[analog breach]

Something like heartman in death stranding. But instead u look for artemis

[hot trout]

If artemis is still in the glass... idk, that might be a bit much for some players

[white edge]

help im stuck in a window

[hot trout]

It would certainly fit with the themes of nms

[ebon spoke]

I could see that. They could even reuse the system from the one point in the story where you go through the portal and it puts you on a random exotic planet for a short bit of time

[cosmic anvil]

I thought she was inside Nada's sim

or dead entirely

[hot trout]

Its somewhat ambiguous, but death means you go to the world of glass, so...

[cosmic anvil]

this is outside the sim right?

[hot trout]

Depends on how you define that

Wait do you mean the sub-simulation?

[cosmic anvil]

from my POV, the sim is what we play as the game, the planets, races, systems etc. So if the WoG is outside this plane of existence, I see it as outside the sim

(just my understanding, doesn't have to be canon)

[analog breach]

World of glass is some sort of archive. Could be just some diffrent SSD from the one sim is running on

[hot trout]

Ok, youre basically right, but its also connected to the simulations, underlying all of them

[cosmic anvil]

so sort of like the baseline for everything, like how the sentinels are said to originate from there?

[hot trout]

Not a baseline as much as a part of the system infrastructure, I think

[cosmic anvil]

hmm, so like an archive like Astabee said. A different sub-system

[hot trout]

Yes, its function is meant to be that of an archive

Im pretty sure its broken

Trying to think of an analogy I can use to explain, lol

[cosmic anvil]

given the state of the rest of the sim, I think you are right

the bugs ARE the feature - Sean /jk

[hot trout]

Best i can think of right now, imagine a massive farm in Minecraft, producing all sorts of resources. Underneath it is a sorting system where items are filtered into their places when their processing is finished

The final storage area would be the archives

Except the world of glass is like if the items in storage continued to act like they were in the world

[cosmic anvil]

yeahh makes sense

[cosmic anvil]

I mean, the sim is like a poked balloon atp right? you have different worlds merging, leaking data here and there which is how we meet other Travellers

so maybe archival stuff is leaking that way too?

[vital flint]

Hey, we've got the three bees tweet already...

Are we going for the cowboy one next? There's enough time till Wednesday...

[analog breach]

Cowboy is on release day.

So probably in wed.

[vital flint]

Definitely in Wednesday....

The speed let's me hope that it will be a bit bigger than remnant...

[hot trout]

The archives arent separated the same way universes are