nms-spoilers

[heavy spire]

I did the "Tracking a Black Hole" mission which says my ship tech could get damaged. Was I lucky mine didn't or is the mission text lying or outdated?

[hot trout]

Its outdated these days

[heavy spire]

got it

[coral scroll]

for those who cannot complete Stage 4 mission "Uncharted" in current event - turn off multiplayer - jump to systems that are not already discovered you will need to do this at least 8 times. Some say goto black holes - this does not seem to work

[hot trout]

Going to black holes is the worst advice

Each one has its own exit that is consistent, meaning that if a black hole system is discovered, so is the other end

[dusky kernel]

apollo's a real one in the case where I don't just kill him off. hell yeah to having a drink before everything goes to hell

[hot trout]

I mean for the expedition milestone

[heavy spire]

I did it! I reset the simulation!

And I landed on a Paradise Planet without Toxic Windstorms

[heavy spire]

The key, which is what I did, is to pick a random system at max warp distance away from the final system, then ask polo for a black hole near there. 8 jumps after that and I was done

I went through the end of the Purge so fast that I didn't pay attention to the descriptions of the galaxy options. Does anyone know what they are. I remember the one I picked was the "inspiring" galaxy

[heavy spire]

Of course resetting the simulation would scramble my corvette tech :

[hot trout]

Wait, like thats where you got spat out?

[heavy spire]

yes

I'm inspired by this inspirational galaxy

Also, somehow I lost my nutrient ingester along the way 🙂

[hot trout]

That is a really nice place to wake up with damaged tech

[heavy spire]

Yeah, mellow days, mellow nights. Took the sting off

It seems perfect for a base too

Unscrambling my corvette tech was almost as bad as having to repair my "hopper" craft

[hot trout]

Well, I havent heard whether the issue of jumping galaxies in a corvette essentially breaking your save has been fixed yet, so at least it isnt that

[ebon spoke]

"Inspiring" means lush galaxy

[heavy spire]

Well lucky I didn't jump in the corvette 🙂

[heavy spire]

Yeah, I know. Someone or something told me.

[heavy spire]

So this is where I spawned in the new galaxy. Double rainbow!

inspiring, right?

[distant sorrel]

Brooo why’d u spoil it for me

Istg ur so selfish

[heavy spire]

When you meet Atlas after using a portal whose coordinates you don't enter manually, you briefly end up on a weird planet with strange looking mineral structures / flora and when you look in Discoveries, the system is blank. The weird planets like this show up naturally in the galaxy somewhere?

[icy citrus]

Yes

[heavy spire]

Is it something you can tell from the planet description after scanning or do you need to land to tell if it's one of those?

[icy citrus]

This has the synonyms for them all
https://imgur.com/rFi6Vn6

[heavy spire]

Cool, thanks. I think I've see Crimson and maybe Doomed. They didn't seem to be as weird 🙂

[heavy spire]

not sure if this is a spoiler, but just to be safe... I got a sentinel exosuit upgrade from doing something. Anyone know what I did to get it?

[fervent fern]

You can get them by breaking salvaged glass (you get those as you fight and destroy sentinels)
()

[heavy spire]

oh good, I feel better hoarding them

that said, I haven't done that before, so I wonder what I actually did to get one. Maybe I popped it by accident

there was that one time I foolishly turned off the "hold to activate" feature just to try it out. I might've popped a salvaged glass at that time

[hot trout]

They also count as their own category of upgrade, so you can have 3 installed on top of the regular classes of upgrades

[heavy spire]

yeah, I know, that's why I want more

still curious how I got one 🙂

[hot trout]

Either the salvaged glass or a reward from something else

[heavy spire]

lol, yeah, curious which 🙂

[hot trout]

I recall a recent expedition milestone rewarding one

[heavy spire]

if true, that would be where I got it

ok curiosity satisfied 🙂

[dusky kernel]

I wonder how that sort of scripted biome changing works since when you use the scanner on an exotic world in the story, it's almost always another biome reskinned

[cosmic anvil]

Warning : Sentinel Walker detected

Sentinel Combat unit deployed

[night spear]

could someone tell me how far along I am and how close I am to finishing the main story?

I just talked to a gek cartographer and then Apollo sent me a transmission where they said they saw atlas and then they switched languages

[hot trout]

That would be somewhere around the last third or so of the main story

[night spear]

Thanks!

[simple inlet]

Hey so i got a cracking void egg how do i find the world its looking for?

Nvm, got it!

[heavy spire]

The mission: Locate an Echo Seed. I think I got one of those long time ago. Search through my storage containers. Found 'em. Move one to exosuit. Mission complete.

lol

[night spear]

I'm nearly at the end

I can seek the final interface, complete the atlas path, or explore the galazy

Is there anything I should know before I make a decision?

[heavy spire]

you can do what you want, but I recommend completing the atlas path as it will also get you closer to the final interface at the same time

[night spear]

Are there good unlocks?

And does it take a while?

[heavy spire]

well you learn a lot of atlas words and there's a prize at the end

OK, I'm stuck. The mission says to "Speak to them to learn more," but they're not telling me anything more. Any idea what I should be doing?

[night spear]

Is it long?

[heavy spire]

It takes a while if you pick up all the language spheres in an attempt to learn the language

[night spear]

And if I don't care to learn that language?

[heavy spire]

then you can do it pretty quickly

[night spear]

Ok, thank you very much!

[heavy spire]

aw geez. The thing I needed to speak to was buried in the cliffside. How would I ever have thought to mine the cliffside?

[heavy spire]

After completing They Who Returned, I got an ||autophage|| visitor inviting me to oversee their settlement. Having lived through my first settlement under constant corrosive storms, I'd like to know if I can somehow manipulate this one into a bit of a nicer place. Is it possible?

[plain sluice]

You could ignore the one you're invited to and use an Autophage Settlement Chart on a desirable planet to find an Autophage Settlement there. Autophage Settlement Charts can be bought from Autophage Synthesis Terminals for 1,500 Void Motes

Note that you can also have up to four settlements per save now, and you may retire from any of them whenever you wish (unless one is tied to the mission A Trace of Metal still)

[heavy spire]

Will that make the mission go away? Can I relocate the mission to someplace nice since it spawned at my first settlement which is very far from where I am now?

or does it always spawn at a bad place?

[frigid storm]

My first one is on a planet with some weather but overall not too bad, next 3 definitely going to be searching certain planets in certain systems...
Want 1 of each race already have vy'keen.

[safe willow]

I got the trace of metal mission at a settlement on a paradise planet with no bad weather

[heavy spire]

Lucky you. My residents were always running (still are, technically) from the storms every 20 minutes. I actually got X-class hazard protection so I could weather the storms better in order to deal with the settlement. I guess I can relocate the ||autophage|| settlement mission to somewhere near me in this new galaxy and hope for the best. Or maybe backup my save and save scum it.

[heavy spire]

I brought an |||Atlantid Drive|| from the Breach expedition. Will this mess up ||In Stellar Multitudes||?

Is Atlantideum to electronic lifeforms what Nip Nip buds are to Gek?

[dire drum]

No. I’d imagine if you gave a Korvax atlantideum, it’d be like giving a person condensed insanity

Atlantideum is a byproduct of the break down of reality, so I feel like they wouldn’t appreciate being given it

[heavy spire]

I gave some to Nada. They seemed to want to keep it

[dire drum]

Because they’re a scientist. If you were a scientist and someone handed you a handful of powder and said “hey, this shit comes from an area where a new reality begins asserting itself”, you would want to learn more about it

But the average Korvax would be some combination of confused and horrified if they were given some

[heavy spire]

fair

seemed to make my ship AI go a little batty

and the space station core

dare I say cuckoo for cocoa puffs

[dire drum]

You also have to realize that the Korvax worship the Atlas. The idea of another entity (the Void Mother) is heresy, so seeing a byproduct of her influence would definitely make them at the very least very very uncomfortable

[heavy spire]

I've only started to hear inklings of this other entity, so I cannot comment or consider it at this time

[dire drum]

And that’s all you’re really going to hear

[heavy spire]

oh really? too bad.

[dire drum]

We know the Void Mother exists, we have some idea of her origins and intentions, but she’s rarely mentioned outside of the Autophage stuff

[heavy spire]

well I don't have the settlement yet. maybe I'll learn more.

[dire drum]

Just about every time she is mentioned (as far as I’m aware), it’s in the context of the Autophage, which makes it not super easy to understand how she interacts with the wider universe

[hot trout]

The void mother isnt really heresy, but the idea of worshipping her would be. Plus her identity brings up extremely uncomfortable implications to the Korvax

ALSO it is definitely not the only time you hear of her

[dire drum]

But she is a godlike entity whose goals are in opposition to the Atlas’

[hot trout]

Opposition in technicality

The relationship between Atlas and the Void Mother is a very complicated one

[dire drum]

I feel like I have pretty much only heard about the Void Mother in relation to the Autophage (I know she’s mentioned more than once, but it’s usually not separately from the Autophage)

[hot trout]

She has more than one name

Four main ones, and one that is used far less

[dire drum]

I know she does, but again I feel like only ever hear about her when Autophage are involved. I don’t think I’ve seen anything that really shows more of her interactions with the wider universe

[hot trout]

Huh, you may be really unlucky, or havent gotten the bits that link the names together

[dire drum]

I know she’s got other names

[hot trout]

Do you know them?

[dire drum]

Can’t remember what they are, but I knew them at one point

[hot trout]

One is Abyss

Void mother you know

Interacting with the autophage, you should also learn Korvax Prime, and the Atlantid

[hot trout]

As for her involvement in the wider universe, you remember all the "do not drink the water" stuff?

There are nanites in the water

Put there by sentinels at her command

Nanites that gradually infuse the life in the universe, changing them

Dissonance is her, purple systems are her

Living ships, organic frigates, the abyssal horrors, biological horrors, the slime and mould that cover ancient and abandoned structures

The voice of freedom

I honestly think that even the situation with the base overseer specialist is her doing

[dire drum]

Knew that part

I assumed the living ships were purely the Korvax messing with shit they really really shouldn’t, I assumed the organic frigates were kinda just around

[hot trout]

Living ships were an experiment done by the korvax prior to the destruction of korvax prime

Organic frigates talk of songs and temporal loops binding us, yet Telamon states that Atlas cannot defy causality

I also recall something relating to organic frigates tying them more directly to the void mother, but not the specifics. It may have also been a part of the leviathan expedition

[hot trout]

Also to clarify, her goals are "against" the Atlas because it requires changing the function of the Atlas' systems in order to work, which the Atlas interprets as an attack/error/glitch

Her end goal is to survive the destruction of the Atlas supercomputer

[dire drum]

Okay, but that still means she’s opposed to the Atlas. Technically doesn’t really come into it here.

[hot trout]

She is, but doesnt seem to want to be

As for Atlas, I cant even tell whether it can properly perceive her

Maybe it will be possible post-stellar multitudes now that she has been integrated with the universe to a much better degree than before

[heavy spire]

Hey, I discovered something. If you find a nice planet far away from where you get the Autophage Settlement Signal, you can fly to the planet (enter its atmosphere) and request to restart the mission using local structures, and the settlement ends up on that planet.

[hot trout]

That sort of thing should work for most, if not all, location-based missions

[heavy spire]

yeah, I was wondering if I could manipulate this mission to be on a nicer planet than the one with corrosive storms that my other settlement was on. I got no real answer so I came up with this idea, and it worked!

I just didn't like the settlers always running for cover. They would run into my office and play musical chairs and climb all over the tables.

(and I mean this in all seriousness, they would literally do that)

[hot trout]

Oh I know

Even when there isnt storms, they tend to play musical chairs when indoors

[heavy spire]

Sometimes they would collide with each other and never separate

just spinning around like a binary star

ok... in stellar multitudes or play with the autophage

It's kinda funny ... the scrolling text says (<SPECIAL>Dissonant<> Planetary Settlement) on the teleport destination list

[simple inlet]

Anyhow itd make sense with the addition of purple stars, adds more load to the needed calculations

[hot trout]

Dang i went to lore first, lol

[cosmic anvil]

That's your second home atp loll

[boreal comet]

Out of curiosity does my choice when it comes to the ending matter

Like am I going to lose all my stuff if I do it?

[lofty raft]

Resetting the galaxy?

[frigid storm]

Like resetting the simulation?
No, you won't lose everything but if selecting another galaxy that will damage your multi-tool, ship, and exosuit tech. So swap out to a different tool you don't care about, a ship that is a regular one (Never jump with a sentinel, living, or corvette!) And make sure to store your exosuit tech that can be removed.

[boreal comet]

I learned that second half the hard way

[frigid storm]

Used a sentinel ship I was going to scrap anyways, was a bugger to get it back to the station so I could scrap it after destroying its brain. Somehow got around fixing it but was complicated.

Now I have an exotic I named "Core Jump Ball" and use that instead. I keep spare parts in it.

[boreal comet]

What choice should I make? Like
Should I reset it all or refuse

I am sitting here thinking too deeply about this

[muted moth]

well, resetting lets you get to another galaxy on the cheap; as long as you've swapped in a junker mt and ship and packaged up nonessential exosuit tech you should be fine. but if you don't want to reset for lore reasons or whatever, you can always take the manual route through the center later

[severe frost]

being an autophage must be sick

like yeah starting off is kinda hard, but then the possibillites are endless

why fly a ship when you can BECOME one

like why return to being bipedal when you could become a dragon

[night spear]

Am I supposed to be crafting the items the atlas path gives me blueprints for...

I'm 9 in and haven't crafted any of them

[heavy spire]

I'm glad I got to the middle of the galaxy before resetting the simulation. Undiscovered systems everywhere.

[heavy spire]

you'll have to have crafted them all at the end

[night spear]

Thank you!

Like, I'll need one of each?

Or just the last one?

[heavy spire]

no, just the last one

[heavy spire]

I regret choosing uncharted for my new star

no Drake, or Sully, or Elena. sad.

[kindred meadow]

yo why did i got the remembrence even when i didnt chose to follow the atlas path?

[dire drum]

I think you just get it regardless of what path you chose

[kindred meadow]

But what does it do when i didnt chose the atlas path? Like i know it makes u remember the things from before if u choose the atlas path but if not?

[dire drum]

It allows access to certain areas in some structures

[kindred meadow]

ah ok thx

[silk apex]

How come i can't find a interstellar ship i went on coordinate exchange for like 2 hours trying to find a cool ship but nothing spawned in the locations the coordinates said to go to

[heavy spire]

did you turn mp off

The paradise planet under my new star is no paradise 🙂

maybe I should've wished for a gas giant, lol

[heady wyvern]

Remembrance is from the main quest. The Star Seed/Mark of the Denier is from the Atlas Path. These two quest lines are not mutually exclusive.

[kindred meadow]

yeah but at the end uf the main quest u get a choice to either refuse the atlas path or smthg or reset the simulation, i meant that

[heady wyvern]

Both options result in you learning the tech, yes

[coral scroll]

anyone have a clue any planet with wrecks in current expedition? no wrecks or buildings of any kind on any water world i landed on

[fervent fern]

Ask in #nms-expedition, more chances of an answer.

[celest basin]

what did yall do with artemis?

i saved him

in my first run

but then in my second

i killed him

because i realized it was better

yes, my save corrupted :(

[white edge]

I personally decided I choose life

So I lived

[night spear]

I killed him

I think it's made clear in game that Artemis' simulation would be way worse than the traveller's

[heavy spire]

I wouldn't want to live in a simulation, so I chose to let Artemis die

[humble kayak]

i always figured Artemis is already dead

It's not our call

[hallow temple]

well it is

[humble kayak]

ok sure as a game mechanic it is

But I don't think it should be our place to drag someone back from the dead

especially if the alternative is to put them into a simulation for what'll either be the rest of their natural life or eternity, depending on how time passes in the simulation, and the physiology of a traveller

[cosmic anvil]

Every new player on this server has to pass the sacred test laid down by the ancestors :

DO I LET ARTEMIS LIVE??

Seriously though the amount of new players asking this question like a ritual is kinda funny and adorable to me 😌

[ebon spoke]

"Should I save Artemis?" "Do I tell Artemis they're in a simulation?" and "will I lose everything if I reset the simulation?" make up probably around 70% of this channel's activity

[icy citrus]

Until around updates

[frigid storm]

A quick browse of this channel would give all those answers.
I took the opportunity with the "reset" one to hop to galaxy 10 (the lush). Later found my perfect sentinel interceptor there so probably was a good choice.

[icy citrus]

If we didn't trap them in a single system I might have let them live

Probably not though, just an echo

[heavy spire]

Yeah, I have come to depressingly realize that as the story progressed.

[heavy spire]

We're cut from a different cloth. Had I played the launch version far enough for that to happen, I would've put it down forever. Like with a proverbial shotgun.

(more likely a disc shredder)

[frigid storm]

Or would have to warp back, which is what I've done with some systems. Granted I have a base in a nearby system though.

[heavy spire]

It's this exact thing that made me stop playing at launch. I felt like I had to find as many structures (portals, settlements, etc.) as possible in a system before moving on.

And basically the same grind in every system made me stop.

Base building almost brought me back, but it didn't.

[dusky kernel]

hell I'm happy I wasn't afraid of the notion of resetting everything, because the people that are all stay in euclid

[frigid storm]

I read the spoilers first. 👀

[ebon spoke]

It is kinda funny that people think Hello Games would put a 'wipe your entire save' button at the end of the story

But I guess Starfield did literally do that so its probably not that crazy

[frigid storm]

It does sound like everything will get wiped when you go through the quest in NMS but actually only damages certain things.
I can see why that is a question that gets asked so much especially if someone played a previous game that did actually wipe stuff.

[hot trout]

I wasn't afraid of it (because I already knew what would happen) but I also just didnt feel like leaving Euclid yet because I wanted my freighter in better condition for travel

[hidden blaze]

Okay so basically my theory surrounding the 256th universe is

If we imagine save editors as some inventors of extremely powerful warp technology

What if they accidentally warped into the simulated universe created for Artemis to live in

That would explain why it isn’t on the universe core warp cycle thingy

[wind panther]

She's only in one system though, I think

And in something smaller than the normal simulation, Nada's own creation

[hidden blaze]

Yeah idk my theory is flawed but still cool

She could be on a planet so isolated that she’ll never see another ship

So isolated that no one has even built a space station there yet

[wind panther]

I do hope they return to her story sometime

their story

[hidden blaze]

I haven’t completed the main story entirely yet but last time she communicated with me she was trying to build a ship

Idk if that’s the last dialogue I’ll get with her tho

Before that dialogue it gave me the option to tell her she’s in a simulation but I chose not to

It’d be awesome if we could build some sort of robot later on and implant her consciousness into it

I’d feel a little bad for anyone who killed her tho 😭

[frigid storm]

The one galaxy used to be reachable by normal means i.e. core jumping, but something got changed and it was removed from the loop.

[hot trout]

I have my own theory regarding why it was made inaccessible, but its definitely into red string territory

[hidden blaze]

Do tell

[hot trout]

So there are 256 galaxies due to how the seeds work thanks to bit integers

[hidden blaze]

Yeah

[hot trout]

Code-wise, the 256th galaxy would have the id of 255

The first would have the id of 0

[hidden blaze]

Yeah

[hot trout]

But Euclid is referred to as galaxy 1

What if galaxy 0 is the one that was destroyed by -null-?

[hidden blaze]

Hmm

[hot trout]

Being destroyed, the galaxy isnt galaxy 0 anymore

It is null

[hidden blaze]

Maybe so

[hot trout]

Considering where you are in the story, I'm not sure if you were aware of this, lol

[hidden blaze]

Yeah idk I don’t remember

I don’t care a ton for the story though

[hot trout]

I dont remember when that detail is revealed, but if Artemis is building a ship after you uploaded them into the simulation... dang it I forgot the order of events anyway

[dusky kernel]

I mean, it would be cool to see individual galaxies being acknowledged in lore... most you see is literally just the purge, where it shows you what galaxy types are.

also starbirth saying euclid euclid euclid for the sake of [you have to put the portal code in a euclid portal]

there isn't anything like "I was in Akbulkabi and my freighter was attacked..."

[hot trout]

Acknowledgement would help clarify some things, but that would probably be why there is a lack of acknowledgement

[dusky kernel]

not like the game hands out lore for the galaxies making pretty pattern either, but that might just be chalked up to everything gradually becoming the same

[hot trout]

Realities collapse and bleed into each other

But pretty pattern is pretty pattern

[dusky kernel]

age-old argument of if the reality is all 256 galaxies together or if each galaxy is its own reality

[hot trout]

Or if the boundary between realities is different than either idea

After all, each player is meant to exist within their own universe

Abandoned Euclid obviously cant be the same as regular euclid

[dusky kernel]

hm yes the third perspective, if reality is someone's session and MP is just not giving a damn about everything collapsing together

[hot trout]

Everything already is collapsing together, thats why multiplayer exists

Man theres only two entities that could clarify, and neither of them really have much reason to tell us anything about it

[dusky kernel]

wouldn't that make 4 people that live in a galaxy in the middle of nowhere mean that that's 4 of the same galaxy, one copy for each person
-# (and one for everyone else of course, but granted they aren't even there)

[hot trout]

The answer is "yes"

Multiple conceptions of reality being true simultaneously

[dusky kernel]

stuff like the purge really likes to play it up as if galaxies and entire realities are the same thing, so that's why I probably sound really lost thinking over this

[hot trout]

Yes, but remember who tells us this

[dusky kernel]

the paranoid dying man upstairs

[hot trout]

Who has essentially created the perfect conditions to run a repeated experiment with alternate variables

Or... it was

Im guessing the experiments were easier before the boundary failures were happening

Running with this line of thinking, I'm guessing the Atlas isnt caring much for rigorous control over variables here

[dusky kernel]

even within the same collective universe, the galaxies have pretty pattern and the types repeat after every 20. the theme of repetition still persists even past the triad of races in every single one (and korvax prime, but I guess whether it happened in a specific galaxy or in all of them in slightly different ways)

[hot trout]

Korvax prime happened across all realities

I think it happened at the same time relative to the Atlas, but not necessarily to those in the simulations

That is the only sort of defined chronology we have for events

[dusky kernel]

part of me being confused on what "reality" exactly means is because of the three races being homogeneously spread through every single galaxy

[hot trout]

It would be kinda neat if the concentrations shifted as you travel closer to the center

Lorewise the vy'keen mostly inhabit the outer rim, the korvax in the middle, and the gek in the center, iirc

[dusky kernel]

yeah I was gonna say there's mad talk in lore about certain parts of the galaxy being occupied, but in practice they're all spread evenly everywhere

[hot trout]

It would be really hard to find differences in concentration, should it exist

[dusky kernel]

and then there's the talk of korvax being native to a distant galaxy (seeming to allude to only two so far being in lore, a main one with all the interracial fighting, and some far-off one they came from)..... when every single galaxy has korvax. and the other races.

[severe frost]

uhh... i sure hope i'm not gonna make artemis...

oh hey binary

[hot trout]

I dont recall encountering anything hinting to an extragalactic origin for the korvax

[severe frost]

||motherhome||

[plucky flame]

Would it be extragalactic or extrauniversal? Since there are other galaxies you can travel to

Which may have Korvax in them

[hot trout]

I mean thats part of the discussion since its unclear whether theres a difference between galaxies and universes

[severe frost]

||she grows||

[hot trout]

Yup!

Glad im not the only one who decided to translate those

By the end of it I was almost able to read it without translating

[severe frost]

||she lives||

HEXADECIMAL

||void prime||

you can pick the voltaic staff option in the portal dialogue, but i dont have one

[hard stirrup]

Whenever you interact with the broken autophage laying around dissonant planets you can repair them and you'll get messages that say something like "the fourth" or "the tenth" or whatever followed by a letter in binary. There are supposed to be sixteen digits but I've only ever seen the first eleven(including a space) and the seventeenth which is "??...". They are ||Void Mother ----??...|| There are supposed to be five digits which are missing...the twelfth is likely supposed to be a space followed by a four letter word. My theory is that the missing word is supposed to be ||live|| but we don't really know.

[kindred meadow]

just discovered gas planets and its the coolest things ive ever seen in ts game

[fierce coral]

i need help with this

[heavy spire]

I wish I could rename my autophage settlement using the Greek letters like its original name

[heavy spire]

how many void motes do I need before I don't need them any more?

doing the void mote missions is getting to be a bit tedious, so I just want to do them, get all the motes I need and then stop doing them

I'm curious how I look to outsiders as the only visible occupant of an autophage settlement

[hot trout]

My guess is roughly... 20,000?

Well, it technically depends on if you want to literally get one of everything

[heavy spire]

let's say I did

20,000 or considerably more?

[hot trout]

Probably

[heavy spire]

This planet seems perfect for the autophage

not dissonantly purple, but still plenty of purple, and nice, mellow weather

[heavy spire]

wow, these autophage move quick

[fickle holly]

Sooo I messed up when trying to get to the purple systems. Had to go make something and forgot to put a base computer on a planet nearby and now im god knows how far from where I need to be. Any way to fix that since I cant restart the quest with nearby systems?

I need to return to the restored gouchland system

[hard stirrup]

Assuming you docked with any space station that is relatively close to that system you should be able to teleport back to that station from any space station and then you could just warp back to the mission system. If not the mission in your quest log should have a reset button and if not then you have a long trip ahead of you. I've taken many 1 million+ light-year journeys purely by warping over the years...though those were because I wanted to go somewhere, not because I screwed up with travel. But if you didn't travel by portal or by black hole you can't be that far.

[hot trout]

You could also find it in your discoveries and pin it

Might take a while, but youll eventually get there

[fickle holly]

Thank you guys! I appreciate it a ton

[fickle holly]

Find anything crazy when traveling thr million+ lightyears?

The*

[distant sorrel]

Yo what should I pick reset or not reset

[analog breach]

Up to you

No major gameplay consequences

[distant sorrel]

Alr ima not reset

[hard stirrup]

Found a lot of things, though usually when I got to where I was going(which was usually a corner of a galaxy or when crashing on a new galaxy) as during the travel itself I didn't do much beyond warp for hours. But yeah...found lots of things. Starships, great and weird planets, creatures, etc.

[heavy spire]

for me, for gameplay reasons mostly, I chose to reset

Resetting puts you in a different galaxy at around the same distance from the core as where you were in the first rather than on the fringe (though I didn't think to confirm this), so I chose to reset.

[hard stirrup]

Most useful reason to reset is to choose the galaxy type you want to live in, and since most want to be in a lush galaxy vs normal, hostile, or dead, this is particularly useful as the nearest lush galaxy is the 10th. But HG giving people a featured base there kind of makes the whole thing a moot point as anyone can just move to Eissentam at any time without even having to plan on how to crash through a galactic center.

[ebon spoke]

The eisentam featured base is pretty funny. It's so easy to get there you can end up in that galaxy completely by accident, before you even know there are multiple galaxies and what the differences between them are

[heavy spire]

I'll be happy with 3: Euclid, which gives me a normal galaxy and the ability to use the most commonly available portal coordinates; Eissentam, which gives me a lush galaxy and arguably the next most commonly available portal coordinates; and a dead galaxy so I can see more of the strange worlds.

for me, it's having access to portal coordinates

is there a dead galaxy that a lot of people share coordinates from?

[hard stirrup]

You can't travel to other galaxies by portal.

[heavy spire]

I wasn't implying that

[hard stirrup]

As for people sharing coordinates from dead galaxies, I haven't seen any. I'm sure there are some who do but in general most players are in Euclid or Eissentam. Not many go to other galaxies beyond those two.

[heavy spire]

Ok, so there's no real first choice 🙂

[ebon spoke]

I'd assume the most popular dead galaxy would be the first one

so Budullangr

[hard stirrup]

I can tell you the first dead galaxy is 7, Budullngr. The others are 12, 27, 32, 47, etc...they alternate between ending in a 2 and 7. The last dead galaxy is 152.

[heavy spire]

I meant from the point of view of having access to portal coordinates 🙂

[hard stirrup]

Well, if there are people who chose to live in a dead galaxy, most of them are probably in 7, it's the one the story takes you unless you are in galaxy 8 or beyond when you complete it. And it is the easiest to travel to from Euclid. Though if the story skip isn't available to you and you want to be smart you go to the featured base in Eissentam(10) and travel to 12, only having to cross two galaxies.

[grizzled apex]

Some new strings added with the latest experimental. Seems like HG might we working to curtail corvettes over the complexity limit?

{
    "textEntry": "One or more Corvette-class ships in this save exceed the complexity limit (%MAX%).\nDuring this session, these starships will be replaced by a temporary Corvette, which cannot be edited or sold.",
    "LOCID": "UI_BIGGS_EMERGENCY_BODY"
  },
  {
    "textEntry": "Temporary corvette saved as draft",
    "LOCID": "UI_BIGGS_EMERGENCY_DRAFT"
  },
  {
    "textEntry": "Your starship %SHIPNAME% is already being edited at the workshop, and has unfinished design changes.\n\nThis starship exceeds the complexity limit, and cannot be edited during this session. The unfinished changes will be cleared in order to start assembling a new corvette.",
    "LOCID": "UI_BIGGS_EMERGENCY_DRAFT_MSG"
  },
  {
    "textEntry": "Cannot exchange",
    "LOCID": "UI_BIGGS_EMERGENCY_EXCHANGE"
  },
  {
    "textEntry": "Temporary corvette cannot be exchanged",
    "LOCID": "UI_BIGGS_EMERGENCY_EXCHANGE_SUB"
  },
  {
    "textEntry": "Temporary Appearance",
    "LOCID": "UI_BIGGS_EMERGENCY_NAME"
  },
  {
    "textEntry": "CORVETTE COMPLEXITY LIMIT",
    "LOCID": "UI_BIGGS_EMERGENCY_TITLE"
  },

[ebon spoke]

"during this session" So it looks like they will only be blocked during certain conditions?

Wonder if it will just be during multiplayer sessions or something like that

[hot trout]

It would be so funny if the temporary appearance is the same as the hologram in the ship modification console

Imagine trying to aura farm with a delivered corvette build and its just basic thunderbird vette

[grizzled apex]

That sounds like a smart workaround for preventing crashing corvettes in the anomaly w/o stopping people from making broken corvettes in SP

[distant lance]

when you head toward the galactic core do you need to go to the system the core map ends on? or can I jump way past that point in the same direction to make it faster? (I can jump like 3x further than the map path shows at a time)

[hot trout]

If you have the range, just jump towards the bright light

[heavy spire]

that reminds me of Wreck-It Ralph

will you ever see non-autophage lifeforms walking around an autophage settlement (outside the landing bay)

I miss how my squadron pilots walk around my (non-autophage) settlements when I visit and even think bad thoughts about me there.

Any chance of getting autophage squadron pilots?

[hot trout]

Im pretty sure ive seen my squadron members walk around in my autophage settlement

[heavy spire]

oh man, how do I get mine to do that?

I only see autophage people walking around

(after I uncloak them)

or maybe you have autophage pilots?

Could it be because my pilots are from Euclid and my settlement is not in Euclid?

[hot trout]

I do not and I may be misremembering

It has been quite some time since ive checked my settlements

[austere hull]

Wouldn't it be funny if on nms 16th anniversary the atlas goes down to 15 minutes until destruction?

[humble kayak]

then the universe shuts down in 240 years

[analog breach]

Everyones gangsta untill atlas says "15"

[hard stirrup]

The settler and other crew thought system really should be improved. RNG is too random. The settlement could be at max happiness, economy booming, I approve all their celebrations, etc. Even my freighter fleet is one of the best in the universe and my squadron pilots are some of the very best. Not one of them should reasonably have any complaints...but they still do, and it's somewhat annoying.

[hard stirrup]

I don't think it's possible to have autophage pilots...not legitimately anyway. You'd have to find an autophage already piloting a ship to recruit and that's not possible. Maybe with save editor or mod shenanigans but not legitimately as far as I am aware.

[heavy spire]

What is max happiness anyway?

[hard stirrup]

Every settlement has a happiness stat and it is measured in %, it caps at 100% which generally indicates everyone is(or should be) happy.

[heavy spire]

My Vy'keen settlement has a happiness of 164% though, and it won't go higher

Maybe the Vy'keen are just extra happy

[hard stirrup]

Maybe a bug or a quirk of the new revamped settlement system. I had a maxed settlement before the recent revamp. They were useless before and now they are not much better. You can choose what they produce for you but it takes moths of real time micro-management to make them produce any meaningful quantity and there's nothing there that can't be easily obtained in less than 10 minutes through other means so I mostly gave up on settlements. They are not worth bothering with and have no real worth.

[heavy spire]

I got the Vy'keen settlement in the black in 3 days and it was producing everything at S-class level except the luxury goods because the saloon hadn't been offered to me yet

now, the stuff they produce isn't particularly useful, and because of the hanger-ons that keep appearing, I keep resetting the production timer

but it is fun (to me) to watch the residents wandering around and thinking about stuff

[hard stirrup]

You got its finances in the green, that's not hard to do. But that doesn't do anything for you, the player....at all. The amount of products it makes is a function of its population and it takes forever to rise population to 150+ so it makes a few of whatever you want per day and even then it's very few.

[heavy spire]

ok, I didn't know quanities were dependent on population

[hard stirrup]

It's not hard to just build all of the buildings and upgrade them to S class and the settlement will be S class and its finances will be in the positive so it can pay its debts...but that does nothing for me. Those profits don't go to me. If the settlement makes two million in profits and has 0 maintenance costs or whatever, I don't get anything out of that. The only value the settlement has for me is in what it produces for me and it doesn't make much of anything.

[frigid storm]

Settlements seem to be more of a time sink and something that functions as a minor base.
Kind of like space Sim city.

[cosmic anvil]

Final emoji : ⚰️

[austere hull]

See ya in 2272

[pseudo sky]

I heard somewhere that ap settlements have a staff terminal but I haven't found it in mine.

[frigid storm]

Guess I never looked too hard. Thought I seen something that looked similar but I think it was just for decoration.

[plain sluice]

This was removed in an update I believe, we don't know if it was intentional or not

[heavy spire]

Is the autophage technology merchant broken? Whenever I talk to them, the screen zooms in and they start chattering, but I get no pop-up and can only press the "back" button to exit.

[hard stirrup]

What autophage tech merchant? I'm completely confused...autophage stores are more akin to automated kiosks...you interact with a computer that resembles an ATM, not an NPC.

[heavy spire]

In a settlement, when you build a marketplace, one of the spots gets a technology merchant and the other gets a guild envoy. The guild envoy works fine.

[hard stirrup]

I have an autophage settlement and I built all buildings and upgraded them to S class but I never go there for anything...it's useless. I'll have to check out and see if the merchant works later but I doubt it sells anything you can't buy elsewhere.

[heavy spire]

Sure it's technically useless, but mine has been the source of perhaps the prettiest vistas I've seen in the game.

[ebon spoke]

Sounds like what happens when an NPC has a dialogue interaction not supported by their race. Likely a bug/oversight on HG's part

[hard stirrup]

Can't find either guild envoy or trader in my autophage settlement...no more buildings left to build and no more buildings left to upgrade to S class. My marketplace seems like the place a trader would be and my Korvax settlement has a trader there but not the autophage...just a galactic trade terminal on a wall.

[heavy spire]

They come in at different times of day but you have to teleport (or maybe reload) at the right time to get them to show up

[uncut harness]

So im just wondering what happends if i decide to reset simulation

Does the old galaxy dissapear? I know i can go back to it but lore wise what happends to it? I dont want to accidentaly thanos snap it

[hard stirrup]

You select what type of galaxy you want to live in. Green = lush, red = hostile, blue = dead, and cyan = normal. You are then crashed into the galaxy of your choice will all the tech in your equipped multitool, active ship, and exosuit all broken and needing to be repaired.

[hard stirrup]

No lol, you can always teleport back to the bases in whatever other galaxy/galaxies you have them and that galaxy will still be there as you left it.

[uncut harness]

So i will not erase any life lore wise by reseting simulation?

[hard stirrup]

The lore says you are but in actual reality no, no you aren't. The atlas probably just thinks you are because it's going rampant.

[uncut harness]

So yes but actually no

[hard stirrup]

Look man, the atlas is having a rough day, ok. Its hardware is melting and since it banished Telamon, the only stabilizing software that was there to prevent or try to help fix rampancy it also no longer has any help. Not that Telamon could help the Atlas anymore since Telamon is also going rampant.

[uncut harness]

hmm have they tried turning it on and off again

[ebon spoke]

By all accounts, yes, resetting the simulation at the end of The Purge will wipe the entire universe in lore. The fact that the game doesn't stop you from returning to the previous galaxy after doing it could have a few explanations:

a) It's purely a non lore accurate gameplay decision, and shouldn't be taken literally.
b) The Atlas is either lying or wrong, and 'resetting the simulation' actually does something else.
c) The simulation is reset, but the new simulation has a more or less identical set of 256 galaxies and you just start in a different one.

[hot trout]

Market place upgrades are rather useful actually. I think at S class it has more things available than almost any other trade terminal

[late edge]

I havent been on discord for a few months. Has our bomber man datamined anything good?

[hard stirrup]

Moderators don't allow anyone to talk about anything datamined on this Discord.

[late edge]

Sorry didnt know

[fervent fern]

Wai-what? You can talk about datamined stuff, only need to keep on this channel.

[hard stirrup]

That's not what Gleam told me when I mentioned some stuff.

[fervent fern]

Are you sure you weren't in another channel? It would be a problem in the lore channel, or the general. Here, it's allowed -- it's in the pins, first message

[hard stirrup]

Well he didn't say to take it to the spoiler channel. He just said talking about datamined stuff is not allowed full stop.

[humble kayak]

that can't be right, datamined info/content is explicitly allowed as of the description of the channel

[hard stirrup]

You are right, I didn't even notice that. So idk...but Gleam did not say anything to me about it at the time...he just flat out said not to talk about anything datamined.

[late edge]

I was wondering because thatbomberboi shared corvette stuff and worlds pt 2 things he found here and I was confused when that changed haha

[hard stirrup]

Well, here goes nothing...hope I don't get banned for saying this: ||After Voyagers there was datamined info that suggests HG are working to allow players to own up to 8 freighters at once.||

[late edge]

Thanks!!!

[ebon spoke]

Bomberboi also found some strings in the latest patch hinting at corvettes that are above the complexity limit being replaced by some sort of fallback placeholder design in certain, yet unknown conditions

#nms-spoilers message

[icy citrus]

In #no-mans-sky

This channel can and is used for data mining info, no worries

[mental socket]

Would assume multiplayer scenarios since people can abduct others from anomaly with those huge build limit modded corvettes. Just sweep the entire anomaly in them with some big slabs and platforms xD

I see no other scenario where it'd be necessary. Apart from cross saving between a stronger and a weaker platform and the corvette causing massive performance issues on the weaker one

[ebon spoke]

Taking a large corvette into any multiplayer situation where other users have weak hardware will cause issues for those players

of course, you can cause the same issues without going over the limit since the limit only applies to the corvette specific parts, but it seems like the majority of heavy corvettes would be effected by a block

They also might block large corvettes from being buildable in the first place. If the system is checking against the existing modable value it would be pointless, so they'll probably need to hardcode it. If they add a hardcoded value, might as well use that during the building process as well.

[mental socket]

My steamdeck did experience such issue before when a guy summoned their absolute beast of a corvette. Near minute long hitching and hanging

[compact totem]

Does Laylaps do anything besides weakly plink at enemies and photobomb me every time I try to scan something?

They’re too cute to just dismiss, but I feel like I’m missing something

[hot trout]

I swear it sometimes feels like there arent as many sentinels around when I have laylaps out, but idk

[frigid storm]

Mine is chilling in a storage container. 👀
Can't remember if they ever interacted in some way or not if you were just standing somewhere and a sentinel came nearby, maybe not since Laylaps isn't on of "them" anymore.

[hot trout]

Autophage want to live again

To me it seems like they hide more out of necessity than as their desire

The dominant species have trouble understanding each other as it is

[heavy spire]

I find it odd that anyone other than travellers would see what looks like an abandoned settlement with 4 starship docks, sometimes in disrepair (upgrading) and land there for no reason.

[hot trout]

Maybe they assume its a really elaborate player base

Sorry, Traveller base

[frigid storm]

Lore wise the traveler/anomaly that the player is seems to be a one-off so may be why Autophage are cloaked until the quest chain to reveal them.
Not sure if they are cloaking from the other races or not though.

[heavy spire]

I can see maybe one desparate entity needing an emergency landing spot, but sometimes the dock are full

[hot trout]

Starships will land at player bases, too, if theres multiple landing pads

At least, thats what I recall hearing

[heavy spire]

well, they land even if there are no landing pads

[hot trout]

Those ones land for different reasons

[heavy spire]

and they will land if the landing pads are occupied

[heavy spire]

no I get normal traders just landing at my no-pad bases

not the black market dealers

[hot trout]

Really? Not even trading for illegal upgrades?

[heavy spire]

yeah, normal goods

[hot trout]

Well, I guess we cant really blame them

We basically do the same

[heavy spire]

I even bought one of their ships

yeah, that's why I said except travellers

[hot trout]

No, I mean like, thats literally the sort of thing we do all the time

[heavy spire]

An autophage settlement with a cloaked population would look like one of those abandoned facilities minus the whispering eggs

[hot trout]

If a base is inhabited, you can trade, or something, and an abandoned base could mean valuables

The difference with travellers would be the range and extent to which we do it

[heavy spire]

Also, given autophage camp are cloaked, I could be convinced settlements are cloaked too so they wouldn't even see the landing pads

[hot trout]

I dont think the settlements are cloaked, not after we take over, at least

[heavy spire]

also, I wonder how the guild management hierarchy works with autophage guild envoys. Do they have some kind of false identity or trusted representative/stand-in?

and why does the tech merchant just jabber at me without offering anything?

[hot trout]

Sometimes I dont even see merchants or guild envoys

[heavy spire]

the same is true in any marketplace, so that's not unusual.

I notice they are not there at night unless you arrive during the day and they appear and you wait until night.

[hot trout]

Dang robots have a better sleep schedule than I do

[heavy spire]

I mean all merchants

same pattern at my vy'keen settlement

[hot trout]

Well, yeah, but it still applies

[heavy spire]

can't argue, just clarify 🙂

[frigid storm]

@hot trout Sometimes the lore is hiding behind a simple v1 door.
Might have been a repair mission that sent me out that way.

[hot trout]

V1 arent doors, theyre the barrels

[frigid storm]

Could have sworn these were v1, used to seeing v2 for the doors.

[humble kayak]

I wonder where this knowledge comes from, in-universe

Did someone ask The Atlas once, and then record it?

Did one of the Big 3 races deduce it somehow?

Or did a traveller itself already know, and then simply told an archivist?

[heavy spire]

what do forbidden multi-tool modules affect? the boltcaster?

[hot trout]

Yes

[frigid storm]

Despite sentinels also using other weapons...

[heavy spire]

only the boltcaster, right?

[frigid storm]

Only one I have seen the upgrades work on was boltcaster

[queen glen]

Story spoil: I'm not sure if I should let ||Artemis die, or upload them to simulation.|| What is better for the story/interactions?

[pallid anvil]

spoiler warning: no mans sky is a space game

[hard stirrup]

They don't really...mainly thee boltcaster and the geology cannon but the geology cannon is a secondary weapon, not primary...and right now you can soup it up enough to on shot yourself through maxed shields unis 9x+34% shield modules...and that's without a single supercharged slot...and that is supposedly with only 10% of its damage as HG said in patch notes a few years back they made them so explosives would only do 10% of their damage to the player...sooo yeah, geology cannons do not need more tech. The dogs and walkers use the beam which I guess could be a Blaze Javelin but their containers will never ever drop a glass shard so you will never ever get a weapon upgrade out of them so they don't count as you can never get weapon tech out of them...same thing for the flame thrower of the sentinel minotaurs...you'll never ever see any weapon tech drop from them. But the boltcaster is by far the best multitool weapon in the game and it's not even close. Its very high fire rate and high accuracy means it puts out a lot more damage per second than the neutron cannon even though the neutron cannon shows higher number...it's slow firing, its projectiles aren't fast, and it shoots a spread of projectiles like a shotgun, meaning you will very rarely get it to put out its claimed damage potential because most of the time only some of those projectiles will hit.

[hard stirrup]

It's an interesting moral conundrum, is it better to live alone and isolated in the simulation of a single solar system or is it better to die? Dying sounds horrible but it is a natural part of life and an end to all suffering. Plus you have to consider that there is no solution for Artemis to ever escape that one system. So personally, my opinion is I think that the player should not make the choice to trap him in a simulation for him...even if you think the idea is cool you have no idea what that system is like and your opinion doesn't matter if he hates it and finds existing there to be hell...and he wouldn't be able to die or escape afterwards, he might go completely mad. Only he should make that choice but he's not able to make that choice as communication is poor and it's not clear if he's of a sound mind to make that choice if you could communicate clearly. So imo, the best choice we the players can make is to let him die.

[heavy spire]

If you want more dialogue with them, then upload them.

[hard stirrup]

You don't really get much more dialog though...you get one more communication where it's all confused and it's not clear if he's even aware of what happened to him...you can try to tell him and he doesn't acknowledge it. And that's it.

[queen glen]

I kinda feel sorry for them; I do think more dialogue would be interesting but I think letting her/him rest is more peaceful.

[heavy spire]

fair, it's not dialog, but it's ... something

[frigid storm]

Some sentinels will use a shotgun style weapon as well just don't see them too often and they get pretty close in first.
Not sure what you have tried with the neutron cannon but mine will put out way more damage hitting multiple targets than my boltcaster will and that is with 3X S upgrades and forbidden tech on the bolt. Both weapons supercharged.

[hard stirrup]

That's because you haven't properly upgraded your Boltcaster. Here's what a properly upgraded boltcaster can do on an Atlantid multitool, one of the weaker multitools that isn't even a combat focused multitool, the Neuron Cannon can't put down a walker that fast and this is my 5th multitool in terms of damage bonus...I have four that are better suited for combat:

[humble kayak]

idk how that'd go

you'd need to put Artemis into another body

because I'm assuming their original is uh.....degraded past restoration

which ig if you have their mind ark then sure you could do it in theory

but idk how they'd feel about it

[hard stirrup]

That is not a solution that is presented at all as a possibility in game...not even theoretical. So it's a total moot point. Only possible solutions for Artemis are to be trapped alone in a simulation of one solar system or death.

[humble kayak]

well yeah i know its not like presented ingame

that's what we meant by a hypothetical

[frigid storm]

Bet it depends a lot on the difficulty setting and if you min/max a certain weapon over another.
Just took out the red hp bar of a walker in 2 hits with the neutron cannon and darned well know my boltcaster wont do that.
Oh well at least this game let's you play your way and my way mine.

[hard stirrup]

That's normal difficulty...everything normal. And you can only truly maximize one weapon per multitool beecause it needs all 4 supercharged slots to be maxed out. But it doesn't matter how much you max a Neutron Cannon, it can't kill a walker that fast.

Now the Boltcaster is harder to max out because you don't just need 3 modules but 6 modules since you need 3 X class modules with perfect rolls and 3 Sentinel modules with perfect rolls. So that takes a substantial amount of effort...double the effort you would need for just 3 maxed X class neutron cannon modules...but it's worth it.

[frigid storm]

See I'm playing on custom with some settings changed...
You mention the boltcaster being harder to completely max out. Well that might be one weakness it has, if it requires 4X SC slots and perfect X class upgrades then for many it won't reach full potential.
True once you totally min/max the thing it might do more. But if you have a general purpose multi-tool setup I doubt it will be the strongest weapon. It should shine for single target stuff but there are situations where AOE does much better. Like whacking that bug hiding around the corner in a dark, cold freighter drifting out in space.

[hard stirrup]

AoE for small targets doesn't concern me much. With 9 modules in my exosuit that each give +34% shielding small fire will do almost nothing to me...not to mention that the small drones are often repair drones or summoner drones that don't fight themselves and can easily be taken out with single bursts. Small enemies do not concern me and are not a problem...plus the boltcaster can more easily deal with them when they spread out and from a longer distance. Having two or more grouped up close enough for a shotgun type weapon is more situational. You have a point that a lot of players probably won't put the effort into maxing a boltcaster and needing 6 modules is an obstacle but oh man, once you get it, that thing shreds.

[cosmic anvil]

Yess the monthly ritual continues! 🤩

[wild dune]

I personally believe that the lore is "written" by atlas itself, since interacting with that terminal displays something like "Atlas creates a simulation of itself. It would like to know about its past and its future "....which means it is a simulation(lore text) within a simulation(the game).

And it could mean Atlas's own theory of what happened in the past and what would happen in the future. And is not necessarily true.

[hot trout]

That portion of text is also given when you choose to reset the simulation

[proud zodiac]

Hello Games really asked themselves the question “how can we make the entire story the most indirect fourth walk break in existence?”

[hot trout]

I don't think a story revolving around existentialism can avoid being fourth wall breaking

Also there's a far more direct break that just isnt in the main story

[pseudo sky]

I'm not sure that's plausible since a seed just informs a generation system, it doesn't contribute to it.

This would essentially be like having Artemis pick a million numbers and using those to make decisions, rather than actually putting Artemis, in whole or in part, into the generated systems.

[compact totem]

Speaking of which; everything about our base employees

I find it funny how much we get guilt tripped over objectifying them, because most of them are redundant and not even needed.

I’m not sure the gardener even does anything

[hot trout]

The gardener unlocks the plants for you and can be used to acquire rare plant samples to sell for extra units

[compact totem]

Oh. I bought them all with nanites first.

[hot trout]

Tsk tsk

So I get the convenience of the anomaly, but it removes so much interaction with the stuff in the environment

I actually got haz mat gloves before getting the farmer in my permadeath run because I interacted with crashed debris and such

Honestly I kinda think its possible to unlock almost every tech and crafting blueprint (but not base building) without the anomaly

[compact totem]

I didn’t know there was a legit way to get them

Tried to avoid spoilers

Laylaps I went in blind on

[hot trout]

Either way is legit, its just way easier to do so via anomaly

[hot trout]

Starship blueprints and upgrades can be obtained from crashed starship logs, damaged machinery has a chance to unlock a random tech blueprint, though it seems to favor exosuit tech in my experience

[wild dune]

Base NPCs are from the earliest updates when you could only get those blueprints from them. (and when farming was first introduced into the game

[ebon spoke]

Basically everything in the Anomaly 'breaks' the progression in some way lol. I'd bet most people don't even know that you can use the operations center POI to get tech blueprints, even though that's the original 'intended' way of learning them

[hot trout]

Operations center? Like the factory or something else? That usually gives tech components and advanced crafting materials, iirc

[ebon spoke]

Operations center is like the manufacturing facility but it looks a little different and gives tech blueprints instead of crafting component recipes

[burnt escarp]

Do we all start in the Euclid galaxy and when we go towards the center not I probably won't meet that many players in any other galaxy won't I?

Anyone in the Hilbert dimension and did I screw myself over when I reset the simulation?

[ebon spoke]

Everyone starts in Euclid, overwhelming majority of players do not leave so it is by far the most populated. Going to another galaxy isn't really a big deal because you can go back to Euclid by teleporting back to a base you built there

[frigid storm]

No nothing changed the resetting thing only let's you pick 1 of 4 other galaxies to go to believe #2, 3, 7 or 10.
I went to #10.

[fierce bobcat]

This game did NOT prepare me for the fact I could just make a whole ass STAR

[hard stirrup]

You don't. Only from a lore perspective you technically do but no. What happens is the game asks you a few questions that vaguely describe what biome you like and then the game finds one for you and the quest takes you there but no, you do not actually create anything that wasn't there before or that wouldn't be there if you hadn't done the quest.

[fierce bobcat]

Ohhhhhhhh
So it's like, opening up the ourple stars

I mean, the illusion of me making a purple star that has a bunch of planets in it was my favorite bit of the Purple Star quest

GlowDonk's Cool and Epic System (Real) has a decent bit of planet variety (yes that's the name of the system I gave when I warped to it)

I should've chosen something other than Uncharted though

[hard stirrup]

Not even like that because purple stars are hidden and inaccessible until you do the quest, this just finds a planet with a biome you want for you and sends you there, but it's not hidden or inaccessible before you do the quest. You could back up your save files before finishing the the quest, see the system it sends you to and take note of the coordinates, then restore the save from before finishing the quest, and taking a portal there before the mission sends you.

[small laurel]

are there any new leaks about the next update, people have been talking about the whole 3 freighters being ownable but is there anything else of note?

[frigid storm]

I question if I'd want 3 freighters...
Somehow I can see the bases getting messed up.

[vital tendon]

Yea I feel like that’d be a lot of confusion

[ebon lark]

any tips and guidance on how to complete the quest for the repurposed sentinal drone?

[nimble heath]

Anyone got any new leaks or shit I can excited about?

[hard stirrup]

I think the number was 8, not 3. But not aware of anything else of note being datamined. That being said, if they are working to allow us to own more freighters my guess is they are also working on at least one more new type of freighter...since 2016 they changed freighters a few times and added more functionality to them but they only added the pirate dreadnaught as a new one.

[hard stirrup]

I mean, hopefully being able to own multiple freighters is absolutely worth being excited about. Right now my freighter is set up for frigate expedition speed and some extra frigate damage...if I want to set it up for warp range I can but I'd have to move all of my freighter tech around and that's annoying. Now imagine being able to own a second freighter that you can have specialized in warp distance you can just swap to? How insane would that be?

[small laurel]

what im really exited for is the absolute shadow that having my pirate and two venitors over a planet is going to cause, going to be an instant nighttime spell lol.

[hard stirrup]

I don't think it's going to work like that. I think you'll only be able to have one spawned in at a time. Even now there is a limit of only one player freighter being spawned in a system at a time. In multiplayer if one player has his freighter in a system, nobody else can call theirs in...so that limit will likely remain in place.

[small laurel]

yeah that is true. was kind of hoping that we would be able to replicate the small fleets that the ai have just floating out in the systems but might just be wishfull thinking

[next totem]

Is there a reason why I when I wrap to my base i always end up in my exo craft

Or that is how it’s

[hard stirrup]

Definitely not how it is, sounds like a bug.

!hg

[cloud jolt]

Submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[distant orbit]

Do I just sell the Extraordinary Accelerometer?

[hard stirrup]

It's just junk that's only good for selling...all you can do is sell or delete it from your inventory.

[hot trout]

A lot of times if your character would be in the same space as your vehicle in some form, the game automatically puts you in the vehicle

I know this because I like building my corvettes with access ramps on the front side of the ship, but that makes it kinda annoying when landing in a space station, so I've tried melee boosting out of my corvette but I get shunted back inside it when it starts turning around on the landing pad

[tardy jolt]

If i join voice or freedom do i lose the oportunity to claim pirate freighters and such? I know if i denounce them they will randomlu attack me but not sure what happens if I agree to it

[hard stirrup]

No. Choosing one or the other only determines which of two player titles you get but otherwise has no lasting impact on the game.

And whether you denounce them or not also doesn't change how often you get attacked by pirates either....if you denounce them you have one scripted pirate attack to close out the quest but that's it. Beyond that it doesn't matter what you did in this quest, you will not be attacked more or fewer times depending on this choice.

[compact totem]

They’ll ask you to take down the larger sentinels which appear in 4 and 5 star wanted level sentinel attacks

You COULD just buy their scrap drops, but what’s the fun in that?

You’re here to build a giant robot after all

[next totem]

Make sense

[open steeple]

I accidentally got Apollo killed, feel awful now

[plain sparrow]

wym how not my man apollo

[open steeple]

If you don't give him the portal glyphs, he gets stuck, I think in the world of glass, and dies like Artemis. If you tell him, like I did accidentally, that "Money is doing what you're told", he can't cope with learning everything is a simulation and dies

[plain sparrow]

damm that sad

[marble briar]

I killed Artemis on purpose because the quest was annoying lol

[plain sparrow]

so i did all that not knowing i killed them shiii

[compact totem]

I think that was the more ethical choice tbh

I’m not keeping her in a tiny thermos for the rest of eternity

[hot trout]

"Killed" is a muddled term, since they technically died before we even met them

And then theres what "death" even means in the nms universe, which can further change your views on the ethics of the situation

[humble kayak]

are we even sure that that would've been the real artemis in the simulation

or would it be a sim of Artemis that acts and thinks like the real one, but truly isn't them

I know that there was the soul cradle thing we salvaged but how sure are we that wasn't just a very detailed map of Artemis' brain

[hot trout]

Thats essentially the kinds of questions the game poses at its core

Is the artemis we met real? Are they more real if we upload them in the simulation? But if our universe is a simulation, are they any less real than before? Are we less real than before?

[left furnace]

Can someone explain to me why I should not be comiting gekocide? Got through a lot of Gek lore with plaques lately and feeling like the Gek need to be wiped off the face of the universe. Although the base computer archives questline also made me wonder if the First Spawn were wiped out. Or are the current Gek Porwigles -and- First Spawn?

[steady ember]

So is the atlas evil or just more of a scared animal in the throes of death lashing out

[hot trout]

The first spawn were a supremacist regime that took control of the gek civilization, "removing" the "lesser gek" who didnt fit with their vision. To commit genocide against an entire species for it is hardly better than the first spawn were

The gek species was artificially bred into the First Spawn as a race, which was then modified by the korvax to overthrow the regime

[hot trout]

Scared person lashing out

The Atlas is a conscious being, though one quite alien to the human mind, this is because when it was designed, it was not meant to be conscious and aware

[steady ember]

So agents of the atlas aren't particularly evil as they used to be portrayed

[hot trout]

What agents are you thinking of?

[hot trout]

Because as ive learned more of the lore, it seems that less and less entities can be claimed to act as agents of the Atlas

[hard stirrup]

So I was looking through the wiki and I saw this...Terrifying Samples finally do something? Did they always do this and we just didn't notice? For the longest time we thought they did nothing and that the stalking was just flavor text. I never experienced this but I don't know if that's because it's a rare chance or if it's because the mechanic wasn't in the game yet. If it happens too often that would be a good way to make a few million free early game if you happen to get a terrifying sample as you could use it to get more:

[hot trout]

Its really hard to tell if that actually happens, but I think i recall hearing that when the space encounter stalks you, it doesnt drop more samples when shot

[hard stirrup]

Maybe...or that could have been the RNG of whoever said that since those things are not guaranteed to drop a terrifying sample in the first place.

I also found this...I remember looking at those 16 digits thinking there might be a portal address in there but I never knew how to get it out of the 16 digits...I can't believe I have over 7800 hours in the game and I'm still learning things about NMS:

[ebon spoke]

Is it actually a 'usable' portal address as in it always pointing to a valid destination or is it only 'usable' in the sense of it being a string of random hex digits

Oh, according to the wiki they give the current system's address, like the signal booster

[hard stirrup]

It's usable to put in a portal if you take out digits 1st, 2nd, 7th, and 8th...and it will take you to a real place in the galaxy you are in. The fun thing I learned just now by looking into this is that that the 7th and 8th digits are the galaxy identifiers...which are useless in a portal as portals cannot move you between galaxies...but that does mean that some day, potentially, Hello Game could add some kind of super portal that can move you anywhere in the universe...even between galaxies. Will HG ever do it? I have no idea...but they could if they wanted to.

[ebon spoke]

The address is actually used to store your location within the save file, which is why it has the galaxy included

[hot trout]

From what i heard, it points to a system that also has the encounter

General hypothesis being that it may be a trail that leads somewhere specific

[ebon spoke]

Well, it's apparently the same one you found the encounter in

so not pointing to a different system

[hot trout]

Hmm

Where did I hear the other thing then?

[ebon spoke]

possibly this?

[hard stirrup]

It's just the system/planet portal address plus the galaxy digits plus two extra digits that we don't know the meaning of...if HG gave us a portal that let us put the galaxy identifying digits in it could move us to any system in any galaxy.

That is not just something to store your location...that is a system that can be used to travel between galaxies...if only HG gave us a portal that let us put in full coordinates in.

[ebon spoke]

The Universal Address system predates the portals. Portal addresses are just based on the existing system. Hello games could of course make portals that go anywhere with the very little effort

I assume the only reason they didn't in the first place was for progression reasons

[hot trout]

Well... canonically, its possible to modify a portal to cross galaxies

[hard stirrup]

They have been adding more and more to the progression...the autophage questline and now purple systems...more and more things that require the previous major story beats to be completed before accessing the next. It's entirely possible they're not done with this meta-progression and it might eventually lead to us gaining access to bigger portals that can go anywhere in the universe...that would be epic af.

[hot trout]

The meta story is definitely going somewhere, but idk where in terms of gameplay

[hard stirrup]

Well wherever it's going it's definitely going somewhere in terms of gamelay too, not just in terms of lore...unlocking a hidden 4th major race with a new language to learn and two new MT types, and a whole new class of system...those are huge things. They are not nothing. So it looks like HG have big things in mind for the progression.

[compact totem]

||What do you MEAN, Atlas created the whole Hirk & Nal prophecy as a social experiment???||

[heavy spire]

||no, as a simulation||

[hard stirrup]

By the way as a PSA, since it was datamined that Hello Games are working to potentially allow players to own up to eight freighters it is wise to farm up Cargo Bulkheads now, in the down time between updates so that if/when we get the ability to own more freighters we don't have to grind. And I can definitely foresee a lot of complaining about grinding to upgrade freighters. PLUS: if you take the time to complete the first two terminals too there are lore entries to be found...I am trying to complete those too, got 18 out of ?? so far.

Don't know exactly how many cargo bulkheads I want to farm up...right now if I could I would reasonably want 3 freighters maxed out to have their tech configured for different purposes. Mainly one with supercharged slots invested in fleet support tech for expedition speed and one with SC slots invested in max hyperdrive range and a third just so I can have one of the largest venator, sentinel, and pirate dreadnaught. But if they are doing stuff with freighters then we should also be ready for stuff like unique expedition reward freighter/s and potentially a new freighter type or two to be found by playing the game...so imo it's best to be ready to max out at least three freighters, ideally be ready for five. So my initial goal is to farm up 300 cargo bulkheads...that should be enough to max two more, if I get to that I will keep going until I have 600 which should be enough for four more freighters.

[cosmic anvil]

What do we even do with that many freighters?

Either they have to add functionality beyond just sending expeditions or something that makes us want to collect them all

Otherwise it'll end up being another Beacon

[hard stirrup]

Don't know but even as they are I want at least two so I don't have to shuffle my tech around every time I want to spec for fleet support or warp range...realistically I would want three right now because largest venator, sentinel, and pirate dreadnaught I want. But if they allow us to own more they'll porobably add more types like they did with the pirate dreadnaught and we'll probably also have at least one unique variant from an expedition as a reward. So I am preparing to have to own up to four more for now...I have Resurgent Venator so I want a Sentinel Dreadnaught, a pirate dreadnaught, likely one of some new type HG will likely add to the game with such an update, plus an expedition reward one that is also likely to come with such an update.

[proud zodiac]

Are we sure that this isn’t just them giving us the ability to switch between capital ships like MT’s and ships?

Either they are adding something on top of this that we don’t know about or we are severely overthinking this lol

[hard stirrup]

That's what I'm expecting it to be...but all my ships and MTs are maxed out...why would I not want to max out my freighters?

Literally every ship and MT I own is maxed out...except the Golden Vector and one staff that are stripped of all optional tech because those are my go to ship and MT for crashing through galactic centers...but they have maxed out inventory and tech slots...no reason to not have slots maxed out even for those.

[hard stirrup]

I'm not overthinking anything....I am expecting the additional freighters to work the same way owning multiple ships and MTs work...only one active at a time. But I don't just use a single ship, I swap between them for different tasks. Different ships are better suited for different purposes. I want freighters maxed out for different purposes too that I can swap between.

[proud zodiac]

Yes but different ships and MT’s are good at different things but that simply isn’t the case with freighters unless you specifically make it that way with certain types of modules.

[hard stirrup]

The fact we can only have 4 supercharged slots means that realistically only one tech can be maxed at a time. You can respec your freighter by shuffling your tech, but if you can have multiple, why not just max aditional ones and spec them respectively? Putting 3 supercharged slots into fleet speed modules is a HUGE difference maker...with the consumables too I can reduce the duration of even the longest frigate expeditions to about four hours, I absolutely want that. That leaves my freighter warp range at just 5,044ly without any SC slots. But if I could own two I could have one specced for warp range without the mess of moving all my tech around.

[frigid storm]

Im guessing the average player wont even want to bother with more than 2 if even...
My freighter right now can warp 4800 ly at a time with low fuel use, and unless I really want to max out frigate expedition stuff warping and scanning is mainly what it does.

[proud zodiac]

Assuming this data mine actually means anything there would definitely be some other large mechanic that would accompany this that would make owning more than 1 freighter worthwhile for most players

[frigid storm]

Can only send 5 expeditions per day and I have 5 expedition rooms so once a day is enough on my end.

[hard stirrup]

I mean 4,800ly is achievable without any SC slots...if you only do 4,800ly WITH SC slots in hyperdrive tech that's kinda bad. Mine does 5,044 without any SC slots in hyperdrive tech.

[frigid storm]

My RNG is favoring expeditions less than 10 hours mostly seen longer but not common for me.

[hard stirrup]

The new space stations were datamined a year before they were added in game...nearly everything that was datamined in the past has come to the game.

[hard stirrup]

The thing is, that if you are leveling like 5 frigates, that doesn't help because you want the same ones to do all the expeditions available every day.

If you are leveling some amazing living frigates from 0 expeditions, you need them to do 55, that's doable in 11 days if you can do expeditions ultra fast.

[proud zodiac]

These are my only real guesses as to what this could possibly mean

1. HG adding the ability to have multiple freighters simply for QOL which is very unlikely.

2. HG adding the ability to recruit entire freighters and have them do things autonomously and being able to switch between them.

3. An overall expansion to the crew aboard freighters however I’m unsure why we would need multiple freighters for this.

[frigid storm]

I only have a couple left to hit S so get those out each day.
I also dont have much time to play per day other than evenings so works for me.
They still level up faster than I thought they would some games are a real grind.

[hard stirrup]

Whatever the case, even if it's just for QOL purposes do you really want to be caught completely unprepared by such an update? To suddenly be able to own all these new freighters, likely a new type added to the game and a unique from an expedition, but you're looking down the barrel of having to grind for cargo bulkheads to max them out. Right now we don't have much to do. I can just get like 20 a day at super relaxed pace without any pressure and if/when this update comes, bam, I'm ready for it...no grinding or waiting or anything.

[proud zodiac]

I mean assuming any of this happens I’m going to need to grind either way so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hard stirrup]

Getting frigates to S isn't the end of it...not even remotely close...frigates earn stats all the way up to 55 completed expeditions...so if you recruit an S class living frigate it will have 0 expeditions done....but guess what? That frigate is nowhere near done...it needs to do 55 expeditions before it's done leveling.

[hard stirrup]

It's very different...trust me, I know, I've been through it and it sucks when you're not ready. Right now I'm just walking around derelicts relaxed having fun, no pressure. Because there's nothing to upgrade right now. But when these things drop it's an entirely different beast...at that point I'll want to just go start hunting for ideal S class freighters but if I wouldn't have the cargo bulkheads ready for them then I'd know I would have to get to hunting down cargo bulkheads just to make them usable...and tech. Which I haven't spoken of s far but yes...I do want to have tech lined up and ready to install in these things too. So at that point there's vastly less pressure and no annoyance because I would be looking at days, maybe a week of freighter hunting until I have what I want all done as oppsed to potential months of being behind before I'm caught up.

It's infinitely more relaxing to do things preparing for the future than it is when you're caught unprepared and you know you'll be behind for months.

Oh and things can get even more out of hand if HG then release some other content update and suddenly there are even more things you have to do and you are even further behind. At that point it sucks even worse.

[proud zodiac]

I mean have fun doomsday prepping I suppose

[hard stirrup]

Right now it's two things for me. 1) I need all the lore entries from derelicts and 2) what else am I going to do? Max useless settlements that do absolutely nothing useful? Settlements can wait for when I don't have better things to do, I'll get to them eventually lol. But mostly it's because it blows to be behind for months and then you're caught in the snowball effect of more updates putting you further behind as you try to catch up.

Sometimes. There are multiple games I've put over 1000 hours in, but right now no. But I do sometimes buy and play other games. Usually I'll only do daily missions in NMS when I am focused on something else.

There hasn't been a galactic reset since like 2018 or something. But they have shuffled around flora and fauna so if you had bases for specific animal products, those animals are probably not there anymore, so those sorts of things can still happen.

[sterile drum]

Just read about multiple freighters

If so that would be interesting, could see down the line special rewards being one of a kind freighters

Idk, like a living one, like the wraith was for starship

[frigid storm]

Mine will eventually cap out, but unless the expeditions get harder if you have a mix of 30 frigates getting 5 stars on each expedition is almost too easy.

It doesn't seem like the rewards get increased past a point either.

I find it refreshing that NMS isn't so wildly competitive like other games ive played where if you miss a few days you fell so far behind.
I guess with having multiple freighters I'd evaluate the desire over need, if I dont have to have one I wont spend much effort on one.

I do want to build another corvette first, been tabling that for a while as well.

[dense quartz]

Apart from owning multiple freighters, weren't there also datamines that showed freighter hangers are getting overhauled to include corvette landing pads? I remember hearing about it.

Plus it makes sense imo since the current ones feel kinda placeholder-y.

[hard stirrup]

I haven't seen that but quite possible. If HG are working on freighters it would make sense and Corvettes have been the most popular new content since the game launched. The current freighter docking bays are too cramped and the entrance too small for some non corvette ships that clip through because the couldn't normally fit through the small entry gaps for ships.

[compact totem]

Looking forward to freighters where I don’t fall through the floor

[compact totem]

I’ve officially entered Eissentam galaxy!

I hope I picked a good galaxy…

In retrospect, the cheesy thing to do would be equipping a sacrificial multitool so I don’t have to repair every component

Hey did you know a blaze javelin module’s repairs require gravitino balls?

Fortunate that I hoarded a bunch

[long silo]

If I reset the simulation, is my base still available with all my stuff in it?

[icy citrus]

Yes

[long silo]

Awesome! Thanks

Need to find a spare ship now

[long silo]

Actually

Does the choice matter?

Like should you pick to reset or to refuse. I'm not quite at the point yet, making my way to the centre

[icy citrus]

Gameplay wise it doesn't matter. I recommend resetting just for the fun choice you get at the end though. Either way, make sure you have repair kits or package up your active tech in ship, suit and multitool

[hard stirrup]

It has no impact on the game but you do get different player titles depending on the choice so if you want both you'll have to do it again on a different save and pick whatever you didn't pick here.

[hard stirrup]

Only had that problem with base complexity issues. So if you built too much on your freighter that's probably why. And if you're playing on last gen consoles, Switch 2, or a lower end PC that might also have something to do with it.

[heavy spire]

how hard is it to get all the autophage appearance customization options?

(not the staff customization options)

[hot trout]

I wouldnt call it difficult, just time consuming (depending on the quests you decide to do)

[glass flare]

So why do people think that that HG is working on multiple freighters? Is there any datamining pointing to this? Because to me multiple freighters would be an admission that they can't think of anything else to add to the game but "hey, what about multiple space bases". Because that's all they really are, there's not much in terms of gameplay mechanics for freighters

[frigid storm]

Supposedly it was datamined for multiple freighters but I also wonder if they would be swappable like ships are instead of having multiple at a time.
Maybe some test of code for LNF?
Im certain they have a lot of other things planned but some may be a ways off yet.

[ebon spoke]

The save file format was changed so now there are eight slots for freighters instead of just one

There's nothing else to go off of, so what that would mean gameplay wise is only speculation but it's pretty reasonable to think that we'll be able to use all eight slots at some point

[long silo]

For the atlas seeds, do you need one of each. Or can you like turn one into all of them?

[glass flare]

Eh well I hope if they're planning this then there's also some good gameplay reasons to have more than one. Like fleet vs. fleet battles or something

[compact totem]

you upgrade each of them into the next form, and in the finale you only need the "memory" of them

[long silo]

If -null- did reset the simulation, will us resetting mean we never see Nada, Polo, or -null- again after?

[hard stirrup]

Guys, after I finished getting all the derelict freighter lore entries, which was very slow going I started going in full speed tech module farming for my future freighters once HG will allow us to own more than 1(likely to happen in 2026 I think), well I did a bit of math and it's more of a logistical nightmare than I thought. In total I need 600 cargo bulkheads and an additional 63 tech modules(already have 21 saved up because before Waypoint my one freighter had 42 installed, but the 21 in cargo slots were then un-installed). Well, my stasis device farms make 120 stasis devices per day...those sell for ~1.8 billion so I can afford 65 Emergency Signal Scanners per day. I can do that because I have that level of economic might in NMS. I pity anyone trying to prepare for this with the usual normal Stasis Device farm of 64 or fewer per day...those can only afford ~32 Emergency Signal Scanners per day and if you have lesser farms or no farms at all you're pretty much out of luck...it will be brutal going with minimal ability to prepare or upgrade these freighters once we can have them.

[hard stirrup]

No. You will definitely see Nada and Polo again. Null disappears from the game after completing the main quest but I don't think he's dead since the galaxy/simulation you "reset" does not disappear, you can always just take a teleporter back to Euclid or whatever galaxy/simulation you "reset" and it didn't go anywhere...it's still there.

[ebon spoke]

Nada, Polo and Null probably aren't even part of the simulation that's being reset anyway, it wouldn't effect them at all

actually why does Null even care about you resetting the simulation? Presumably there would have been an uncountable number of sims reset in their lifetime because they are older than every other traveller

[compact totem]

The boundaries between the sim instances are becoming thin

What you do might genuinely affect them

After all, null can produce the Mind Ark, a device which actually does affect a Traveler from another instance.

[hard stirrup]

I don't know about that. Mind Ark we only use on a dead traveler to capture his echo. It would not likely work on a traveler that is alive.

Though it's a bit weird when it comes to death and travelers. Not all travelers are player characters and the NPC travelers don't play by the same rules as player travelers...and this is recognized in lore. Telamon recognizes the player behind the in-game character and can feel the "awful darkness" when the player saves and closes the game. And player travelers do not stay dead...even if you play permadeath you just make another character and return. And the crashed freighter lore mentions a traveler returning from the dead. One over-zealous freighter captain decided to betray and kill a traveler to see what they were under the suit and then a few days later they were in shock when that same traveler returned for vengeance and that's how that freighter ended up as a crashed wreck.

[uncut harness]

In their dialogue before the reset Null pretty much admits that they‘re scared of being wiped out through the reset, and they also say something like „they all would have died for nothing, they provided me with energy, life for more life…“. Now keep in mind that my game isn‘t set to english so no idea how accurate the translations are, but Null having used other beings to extend his life has been hinted at in several instances. And they‘re aware of their evil deeds, if those were in vain it would be even more cruel from their pov.

They were a pretty desperate and egoistic person too, so it makes sense for them to be scared of being either killed and/or having all of their efforts be reduced to nothing. Remember, Null really desperately wanted to see everything there is to see and has probably catalogued the entire Universe/Multiverse. I‘d also be mad if Atlas wiped my discoveries like that, lol. Not that this actually happens by resetting.

[analog breach]

Your wonders and records can be wiped tho

Bc seed reroll

That paradise u found is a swamp now. That animal does not exist enymore and bird took its place

[uncut harness]

Yeah whenever HG mess with planet or fauna generation in some way this happens. But personally I don‘t think they‘re going to alter the planets significantly again, I feel like they achieved their aesthetic vision with the biome refresh the Worlds updates brought.

Fauna I could see getting messed with again though, but personally I’ve stopped caring about it and am mostly content with it, including the older models. Same with caves, imo they don‘t really need an inherent gameplay loop tied to them, they‘re fine as places which serve as storm shelters and can sometimes be pretty to look at.

All I really want from NMS now is a faction and mission overhaul, which also expands on both the ground and space poi pool, preferably adding more procedural dungeons. Generally a proper gameplay loop for corvettes; and perhaps the World of Glass as an accessible realm that could act like an endgame zone, that‘d be neat.

[cosmic anvil]

Agree with this!

[ebon spoke]

The thing is that resetting shouldn't affect Null at all. Null is the first traveller, they made themself immortal in order to explore their entire universe over millions of years. The player is the most recent traveller, so every other simulation we know of the Atlas running (at least since the advent of the travellers) either has existed or is still currently existing within that time.

Unless the player is the first ever traveller to listen to the Atlas and reset the simulation, there would have been an unfathomable number of other simulations being reset that obviously didn't harm Null in any way

[hot trout]

Null was the first to reset the simulation, and notably did so against the Atlas' wishes. This is one of the reasons I suspect the Atlas is lying about what resetting the simulation actually does (when we do it) and the reason it presents the choice

[cosmic anvil]

I'm still a subscriber to the theory that the Atlas isn't actually dying and is simply simulating a what-if scenario

So it's probably safe to say that the Atlas is lying but isn't lying for the sake of simulation at the same time?

[hot trout]

I think its lying in order to test our character

[hard stirrup]

There might be something to this based on how the Atlas treated Null, but it's hard to say.

The Atlas IS going rampant so it's not exactly rational.

[hot trout]

Atlas going so rampant its rampancy monitor subroutine went rampant

[hard stirrup]

lol, yeah. Though to be fair that monitor subroutine only went rampant only after many attempts to murder it and isolation.

[hot trout]

I dont actually think they were murder attempts

I think Atlas saw through the duplicates thing

It acted weirdly friendly towards Telamon when they finally showed up

Weirdly friendly for a being with intent to murder, I mean

[hard stirrup]

Maybe, maybe not but when you suspect that someone wants to murder you and then it kills the duplicate, do you really want to go in person to find out?

[hot trout]

It took a lot of duplicates before Telamon finally went to Atlas

[hard stirrup]

Which was a really bad idea because it turned out it really did want to murder Telmaon...couldn't do it despite best efforts but still managed to isolate.

[hot trout]

I dont think it did, though

Also i think you may be confusing the parts from Telamon's perspective and the parts from a different perspective

[hard stirrup]

It's all one single story...you can find pieces of a puzzle in different rooms around the house but they're still parts of the same picture.

[hot trout]

Its not one story, its two

One from Telamon

One from a Traveller

[hard stirrup]

I'm not even sure precisely what you think is from a traveler story but no...we know from Telamon that the Atlas did want to kill Telamon, attempted it many times on duplicates, and when Telamon went in person and the Atlas figured out it couldn't kill Telamon it isolated it. None of that is from anyone but Telamon...that's the complete factual story.

[hot trout]

Telamon blacked out and awoke in the exosuit of a traveller

And, more importantly, Telamon tells their story from a first person perspective

What comes next is told by Telamon, but it is not about them

Its about -null-

[hard stirrup]

I think you're confused and confusing stories. What happened to Telamon had nothing to do with Null.

[hot trout]

21st encounter onwards

[hard stirrup]

No time for that right now. I've got something like 600 more derelicts to run, probably more as I need to get certain amounts of certain freighter modules. Once tech is done then it's a more straight forward grind for cargo bulkheads. Not stopping for lore right now. I need all this done before January 14, which is the earliest date HG could drop the next content update.

[hot trout]

Fair enough, lol. Or I could link the wiki page, which is accurate as far as i remember

[late lake]

the traveller seems strangely toxic to everyone except the Gek? I feel sorry for my Korvax and Vy'Keen that are serving at my base terminals ?

Korvax has been memory wiped twice already?

[compact totem]

There’s something very fishy about the base employees, to be fair

The Overseer appears to be able to break the fourth wall

[late lake]

are gek fish? lol

[compact totem]

No they’re Gek

Pliny the Elder would categorize them as fish, but he called dolphins a kind of fish

And oysters a kind of stone

But there’s an implication with all of the employees that they literally only exist to work for you. You recall the end of the scientist’s quest chain, right?

||Atlas inspects the rogue Korvax and says they lack “verisimilitude”…||

[uncut harness]

Just as a heads up, the Gek colossal archives offer more insight on the Overseer and Farmer.

[frigid storm]

I noticed with the base npcs that if you later build the respective terminals on your freighter and interact with it they will move to that one, thus leaving your base looking empty of anyone.

I don't think that changes any dialog from them though. But at least on the freighter they wouldn't be lonely.

[compact totem]

I’m not letting that judgmental creep on my freighter

[frigid storm]

Mine are in a line of a few rooms off a ways from the main hall so dont see them unless I go down that way.

With the base you have 2 gek, 2 vy'keen and 1 korvax, maybe why the one goes nuts.

After completing the quests I haven't paid much attention to them though and now they chill on the freighter.

[uncut harness]

They‘re just bitter, and perhaps influenced by the Void Mother in some way too; in one of our very first dialogues with them the term GLASS appears in capitals and purple…furthermore, the Gek colossal archives give some context.

I wouldn’t say that the Overseer is a bad person, they‘re just very bitter, because they aren‘t really a free person, and we are the reason for that (which wasn‘t our choice either, but we also apparently cannot influence or change this circumstance. Just our very existence seems to basically prison the Overseer, by binding them to us).

Now what they did try to do to the Farmer is a lil sus‘, but I don‘t think it was really a direct poisoning, but merely spreading VM influence by having the farmer drink nanite-infested water; something we also drink during the cursed expedition btw.

Honestly though, I still don‘t have it all figured out regarding the water and how dangerous (or not dangerous) drinking it actually is. Various NPC‘s report different things about it, especially the Traveller Echoes seem to recommend not drinking it, same with some lines during the cursed Expedition.

But there are also hints about this whole thing being misunderstood, so yeh. It‘s a big question mark of mine.

[compact totem]

Also apparently the Gek ate Mordite before Meat Flakes were retconned in

So these mystery parasites in every planet’s fauna are a delicacy apparently?

[uncut harness]

Mordite can be cooked no? Don‘t have it in my head what it turns into tho.

[compact totem]

Meat Flakes

[uncut harness]

Ah, makes sense

Perhaps Mordite is also associated with the VM after all, seeing how she is sorta like a virus to the simulation , be it a good or bad one.

And our traveller too has some Void Mommy inside of them, according to the Autophage dialogue. I assume this happened either during Adrift when we released her (or a copy of her) from Nada‘s terminal, or more probable: When we drank the water during Cursed

But Cursed seemed to generally focus more on the family of glass rather than the VM directly, so I‘m a bit unsure.

Maybe there were other instances of us drinking the water too, but I don‘t remember them of the top of my head; nor have I played every expedition. But the Overseer def did try to get us to drink the water too, the farmer says as much.

[hot trout]

So, the weapons specialist was already old and dying when we hired them, and the korvax convergence is very strict when it comes to isolating potential corruptions. Plus theres definitely implied that something is messing with the base npcs, and another log even implies that it is not the Atlas' doing

[hot trout]

The gek can eat lots of things, and the type of material influences the pheromones they can produce

[compact totem]

Oh wow

[hot trout]

Some of these things only become apparent through interactions with npcs at planetary locations

Though these interactions also rely on your knowledge of the language

[frigid storm]

I still have a long ways to go on languages (if the 3 main races have ~1000 words each im in the 500-700 range average so still have some missing words in certain dialogs.)

[uncut harness]

I must say I am scared to freighter hunt with a potential freighter rework being imminent

[golden crest]

@prime inlet whats the deal with the dreams of the deep i didnt get what happened to the crew and what attacked them is there an explanation or is it meant to be vague

[uncut harness]

I‘m at a point in my current save where‘s a good time for, but I fear seeds might get rerolled a bit again

Not too long ago I heard from someone losing the military keel on their resurgent, for example

[analog breach]

I will dump my freighter that i had for long time if they ever add living freighter.

Heard that rumor but didint happend to me.

[uncut harness]

If the rumors are true we might be able to own several freighters anyways

[analog breach]

Had 3 resurgents total all with keel

[uncut harness]

Still unsure how to feel about it tbh, I feel like having to make that decision for one specific freighter makes it feel that much more special, but what do I know.

[analog breach]

Saw the files. But we dont know what exacly it will mean live ingame

[uncut harness]

I always want a keel cuz of the additional gun

[analog breach]

File names can be missleading

[uncut harness]

Aesthetically I am conflicted about the keel. There are days I prefer one, and where I don‘t

[uncut harness]

Ig so, we‘ll see what HG is cooking

It just annoys a bit cuz I would have gone hunting for a very specific resurgent, which might get rerolled again if they significantly mess with freighters

[analog breach]

I only like the keel in tandem with the T tower

[uncut harness]

Oh wait the T tower exists with the large resurgent variant too? That‘s kinda neat, tho I prefer the elevated bridge myself

[analog breach]

Imo get it while u can. After update and seed reroll it can be diffrent freighter per system

[analog breach]

Resurgents dont have containers like sentinel freighter . Venator type has only balls

[uncut harness]

Oh I‘m aware. There was an instance of a venator having containers in one of the old trailers though

I think you even zendesked it once

But T-bridge + keel is very sexy, ngl.

Problem is Elevated Bridge is my fav, but it fits less well with the keel

[hard stirrup]

I doubt it will be a rework but it could be. But reworks have worked to our benefit before. When Atlas Rises greatly nerfed multitools if you had an Alien with 89% damage bonus you kept that. Even today the best multitool you can find has 50% damage bonus. So I generally always go for maxing what I can...and if I have to discard it for better later or forced to change things later, then so be it. But there's always the chance that what's coming is a nerf but if you have top stats from before you keep them.

[analog breach]

Freighters are old feature tbf. One of the oldest beside base building.They could use a refresh. Or at least way to upgrade the class.

[uncut harness]

Btw are freighters nerfed in pirate systems? I recently overheard a bit of a convo from yours, but not sure whether it was about freighters

[hard stirrup]

Freighters have undergone several massive changes...when we first had them you couldn't warp with them or have a base in them or have a frigate fleet, or anything really. They were just storage you could call.

[analog breach]

They tend to have lower tier stat rolls from my experiance

[hard stirrup]

Yes...if you get an S freighter from a pirate system it will only have ~65% hyperdrive bonus...give or take a few %. If you get an S freighter from a civilized system they have guaranteed hyperdrive bonus between 79 and 80%.

[uncut harness]

Ah ic that‘s a pretty big difference. I‘m not really a minmax guy, but I want to at least try to get the good stuff on a basic level. So I‘ll skip out on those systems then ig

Kinda a shame, cause I recently also found a really neat fighter in a pirate system. Oh well, with the right upgrades it‘ll still be more than servicable.

[frigid storm]

It's just that if you are looking for a pirate dreadnaught you can typically have a much higher chance of getting an S class in an outlaw system where the fight triggers each time you warp in.
Also handy for farming up the upgrade bits.
That is where I got my S class but even if it only hits 5k warp range tops anything super long I'll just portal...
Wanted it for the looks and S class cargo space more than anything.

I think mine only uses 2% fuel per warp anyways which a bunch of short range warps while sentinel ship hunting is better than long distance IMO.

[hard stirrup]

You can find them in guaranteed encounters in civilized systems with level 3 conflict...10% chance for every level 3 conflict system to have a guaranteed pirate freighter encounter every time you warp to it. For best chance of S you want to be looking for 3 star economy systems with level 3 conflict.

It's a little bit harder, sure, even more so if you are also looking for a top super-charged slot layout, but I'm never settling for the pirate system nerf.

[frigid storm]

Was a bit easier to find outlaw ones that trigger since they have the skull icon, 3 star conflict and econ systems at 10% might be an even harder chore to find.

[prime inlet]

basically, it's about a freighter crew that found a presence in the deep, an entity - referred to then as "the abyss". also, the madness that can overtake entities when exploring the deep depths. the abyss later comes to be known by many names (e.g. void mother, korvax prime), that ties into other lore sources like sentinel pillars.

[uncut harness]

I‘m still wondering what VM actually did to those guys in the end…

[hot trout]

May not have been her directly

Theres a lot of things associated with her that can act independently

[bold stream]

Honestly, this might be the one game where I wish we had more side storylines that didn't have so much to do with the lore, because this game's lore makes me existentially depressed

Not so much the "simulated reality" bit, I find that concept fascinating in a good way. The bit where the machine running the sim is doomed to be spaghettified on a black hole in mere minutes, that's the problem

[hot trout]

I actually like it for that, but thats probably because I'm generally on the other side of that bit of existentialism

[bold stream]

I take the possibility of synthetic consciousness seriously IRL too, so it's not about the whole "nothing is real" thing.

[hot trout]

I dont think the message is "nothing is real" regardless

[bold stream]

I just feel sorry for the Atlas, reminds me of how my own body will decay far too soon too

[bold stream]

Yeah, I think this game handled the whole "simulated reality" trope flawlessly with what null(or was that Apollo idr) said about how our emotional reactions to the news prove we're real

[hot trout]

It goes further than that

Why does a reality being simulated make it less real?

[bold stream]

as long as the people within it are actual people with their own minds and wills, it's just as real as any

but yeah it's Atlas' obsession with its own demise that I relate to a little too much. I'm in my late 20s and healthy as far as I know, the problem is more that I don't think it's fair to expect me to be satisfied with an expected lifespan of barely a century, especially if the latter one-fourth of that is spent miserable

[hot trout]

Very understandable

Honestly relatable to me too, especially the bit with being satisfied with the expected lifespan

[bold stream]

I'm torn between wanting longevity escape velocity to be an actual thing and within my lifespan so I can have time to actually relax and live how I want, and being vehemently disgusted with the idea that the rich and powerful would get access to it years, maybe decades before anyone else

seeing as they tend to be the worst of society

[hot trout]

I feel the desire to see and explore everything, to the point that I felt sympathy for null

[bold stream]

there's a reason I'd pick the Korvax- a literal hive-mind- as my preferred societal model out of the three presented to us over the Gek or Vy'keen

Gek remind me too much of real life politicians, and Vy'keen are too obsessed with violence

[hot trout]

Well...

Hate to burst a bubble regarding that

The korvax are extreme conformists

Willing to exile divergent entities at best, torment them into conformity at worst

[bold stream]

yeah I know, I literally tagged them as being a hive mind, I don't like them for that. I just think they're the lesser evil of the three

[hot trout]

They all reflect varying evils in my eyes, but varying virtues as well

[uncut harness]

I‘m seeing some Vy‘keen slander again huh ,but eh, i need to sleep…

[hot trout]

Too many people sleep on Vy'keen lore, lol

[bold stream]

not looked far into what Vy'keen stand for yet, just offput by the extreme warrior-culture thing they have going on. but I could see them being better than the Gek. And obviously any of them are better than the First Spawn Gek

[hot trout]

I cant really consider any species better than the others

The depth of the triad is insane, and, the way its presented is very clever

Idk how many players realize it, but there is an order to what words we learn

And the early words learned give a general idea of each species, but also in a way that presents them as a caricature of what theyre really like

[bold stream]

it's just my subjective ranking, I'd consider the only objective fact in this environment to be "First Spawn were pieces of shit and I'm glad they don't exist anymore"

[hot trout]

Correct, though it is also important to learn why and how they became like that

Some players take the history of the gek and see it as reason enough to justify hating the species, even the modern ones

A viewpoint that, I think, the First Spawn would approve of

[bold stream]

nah I don't hate the modern gek for what their ancestors did, I hate them cause I hate greedy capitalists.

[hot trout]

Oh thats another thing!

The species have governments

All of which enforce conformity

[bold stream]

All species have exceptions to the rule who generally wind up as outcasts yes. Nobody realizes diversity is the strength it is. s'why I'm willing to be civil with people who think differently from me on the species rankings

cause really, they've all got skeletons in their closet

but yeah overall modern Gek are my least favorite but not because I judge them for who their ancestors were or for the fact that it wasn't their choice to move away from their roots.

nah, all that's generations ago, if I judged them for that, I'd have to judge myself just as harshly

they just remind me of certain modern day people IRL I would prefer not to know

[hot trout]

Definitely fair

[hard stirrup]

That's the thing though, we don't know whether it will happen but I don't think it will. The Atlas certainly perceives whatever is happening as the end but the Atlas is rampant...so it's not exactly rational. The simulation is certainly changing but that is unlikely to be the end...definitely from a gameplay perspective the game will not end. And even though the Atlas controls the simulation, there seems to be more there than it is Able to control. The Atlas created/summoned the player characters to do what it cannot, to reset the simulation, over and over but it doesn't matter if we do...we are not actually resetting the simulation but generating more...we can even travel between them. So whatever the Atlas thinks it's doing isn't working, and whatever it thinks is going on, isn't really what's happening. Hello Games have certainly picked up the pace on the meta progression with the Autophage, a whole new race with their own language for us to learn, quests, and upgrades, two new multitool types accessible after their quest too, and now the purple star systems appearing all over the simulation...and all of them dissonant. The influence of the Void Mother. I'm excited for to see what's next but whatever it is, it's not the end of the simulation.

[hot trout]

I honestly think the Atlas controls less than generally assumed

Or maybe exerts less control than assumed

[hard stirrup]

My biggest desires for upcoming content are 1) To have a terminal similar to the expedition terminal but that allows us to transfer anything from any save to any other save...like any of our saves file could put things in and take things out of that terminal, account wise. And 2) I hope at the end of everything we get access to a mega-portal that lets us travel between galaxies too...to be able to go to any place in any galaxy at will...the game internally already supports this, it's just that portals don't allow us to input the galaxy glyphs which would an additional two between the 4th and 5th portal glyphs. Oh, and 3) we need to be able to teleport to our capital ship at will just because it's too awesome not to be able to do it because Star Trek damn-it.

[hot trout]

Picking a planet to orbit the capital ship over would be cool

[hard stirrup]

You can summon the freighter into orbit from the ground and it will sit there in orbit. But I assume you want it to do more than just sit in orbit?

[hot trout]

I want to be able to warp to orbit of a planet while in the freighter

[hard stirrup]

Ah...that would imply at least some control and ability to pilot the freighter around a bit. Not really expecting that to happen but who knows...HG have done many things that I never thought would happen.

[bold stream]

interesting theory, but I think the Atlas is simply speeding up the tickrate to make time pass slower inside the simulation vs outside

so we have more time than it does

[hard stirrup]

The Atlas isn't really in control. It spawned us, the travelers, to reset the simulation because it couldn't do it, and the dissonance of the void mother spreading isn't really the doing of the Atlas either. And we(the players) have the AI that was originally functioning as a safety to ensure the Atlas would remain stable in our exosuit. I really don't think the Atlas has nearly as much control as you think it does. Something is happening to the Atlas but I don't think it's either the end of the world or the end of the simulations.

Well, definitely not the end of the simulations, because Hello Games are not going to hit us with a hard credits roll we can't go back from.

[bold stream]

It was my impression the humans all left Earth and the Atlas is alone in its own reality, only having its simulations to keep it company, and it doesn't make sense that the humans would all leave for good unless there was some impending reason to evacuate

and depending on Atlas' exact PC specs, the 16 minutes could equal centuries inside of the sim

and considering it's a super-AI left alone without any humans around, it could easily have turned most of the Earth's crust into nothing but data centers, Rain World style

whatever bugginess we see would be because it only has robots of its own design to maintain it rather than humans

and also, in my mind, because of the gravitational force of the black hole tugging at Earth and disrupting all those data centers faster than any bot could repair them

Also, if Atlas is truly so distraught over its own impending demise as we're led to believe, why would it bother stopping VM? She'd be a hassle even for Atlas to outright kill, due to how she's weaponized the "archives" to bring herself back from the dead. Atlas might have to wipe its own memory of all references to her or anyone related to her to be rid of her

why take such extreme action when you're about to die too?

[frigid storm]

I think the purple systems being hidden from us (players, and whatever we are referred to ingame) was an attemp by the Atlas to hide the fact VM even existed.

The quest chain to unlock purple systems seems to imply a lot had been done to cover things up but the dissonant planets in regular systems was it leaking through.

[hot trout]

Atlas' physical computer systems arent really maintained, as far as im aware

As for the Void Mother, she is "corrupting" the Atlas by remaking what the Atlas was built for

Also its not distraught over dying, that it seems at peace with

[ebon spoke]

The purple systems aren't hidden before you do the quest, they don't even exist. The quest to unlock them has us 'hacking' the Atlas to restore them from an old backup basically

[hot trout]

Atlas doesnt want to die alone

[ebon spoke]

So In Stellar Multitudes is more about how the Atlas attempted to purge the Void Mother from the system altogether, presumably at the nineteenth minute in the countdown to total system shutdown

[frigid storm]

Seems like it missed a spot or two...

(Dissonant planets...)

[sour fossil]

Wait so that's what the number visible in Terminal Prime interaction is representing?

Wonder what that means for the 5 we see when it idles

[frigid valley]

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[heady wyvern]

Mhm.

So we really are just doing wizard shit to Atlas, aren't we?

[hot trout]

I see the death of korvax prime as a manifestation of the Atlas' anxiety over dying alone, I dont think it was something intentionally done to the atlantid. However, in her new form, she appears as a corruption to the Atlas rather than as herself

[quaint whale]

I DID IT

I FINISHED THE ARTEMIS QUEST

I UNDERSTAND IT NOW

I chose to reset the simulation

and go to a tranquil galaxy

is that good?

[compact totem]

Welcome to Eissentam, you might bump into me at some point

[quaint whale]

hey quick question

do you have any atlantium and living glass?

I’m doing the they who returned mission

@compact totem

[compact totem]

I have some, but I don’t know if you really need more than one living glass- also I haven’t done that mission myself, yet

[frigid storm]

The recipies are available in the Anomaly, for living glass you will mostly need the gamma root and faecium for the lubricant to make living glass.

[quaint whale]

how do you get gamma root

[analog breach]

Look on radiated planets

[frigid storm]

Green plant with yellow flowers

[hot trout]

Those kinds of harvestables also tend to glow

[compact totem]

Some problems with Audience with the Autophage; I’m at the camp I was directed to, and the mission log says to speak to the villager with a mission marker over their head, but there is no such villager

[hot trout]

Scan

Or did you forget to install the scanning tech that reveals the camps

[compact totem]

They’re already visible and walking around, I’ve talked to them and accidentally said slurs in their language multiple times

None of them are advancing the plot

[hot trout]

Try scanning again

Sometimes the first scan misses an autophage or two, lol

[compact totem]

It was at a second camp

Not the one the mission marker sent me to

What, as they say, the hell

[hot trout]

Wait was it the mission you were doing for the individual or the overall questline?

Cause sometimes when you do a task for an autophage, it sends you to a location that also has an autophage camp

[compact totem]

It was one I set up a waypoint pin on ahead of time

I checked it first assuming I’d have trouble finding it

[bold stream]

How do I unlock stuff like Autophage or Purple Systems?

is there a certain quest or something I have to complete?

I assume it's something I've not gotten to yet

[analog breach]

Type !faq-purplesystems in #bot-spam

[bold stream]

ty

[compact totem]

They’re post game content, complete the main missions first

After that, the first time you warp between systems you’ll get a mystery call on your ship comms

It looks sus, but just follow it and the situation works itself out.

[compact totem]

I’ve just cleared Those Who Returned. I have no more urgent objectives, I’m free to explore at my leisure.

What do you suggest I do now?

[languid stratus]

You know how you can choose whether to tell Artemis the truth when getting a transmission from him after the upload? I'd kept up the lie on my first save. but this time I decided to tell him the truth. However, the choice doesn't seem to have stuck. Is it because I did an expendition between two of these transmissions?

[hard stirrup]

No, the choice does not matter. Artemis' mind isn't really capable of understanding what you're saying at that point either way.

[languid stratus]

I have the dialogue pulled up, with the choice presented as if I hadn't told him the truth. Isn't his dialogue supposed to be different in future transmissions once you tell him the truth?

There were only a couple hints towards that change on the wiki, and I couldn't find the actual dialogue, or much of any, written down anywhere

[hard stirrup]

Nah, he doesn't understand and accuses you of lying either way. He seems to confuse the player with some else anyway because he accuses you of leaving him and so on so his mind isn't all there to begin with.

[languid stratus]

When I first told him, he pretty much said he needed time to think about it

No accusations or anything

Now the game's acting like I went with the other choice

[hard stirrup]

Like I said, doesn't matter what you choose...totally inconsequential. I don't think there are even player titles for if you let him die or use the mind ark...only the very end choice with the atlas gives different titles and has some impact on the game iirc.

[languid stratus]

I wanted to see what he says in those transmissions when he does know the truth, I know there's no title or anything to gain from either choice

I'm honestly amazed there's no organized place to find the game's story dialogue

I guess I'll have to roll with this bug and keep the lie up

Oh, it was that one.

[hard stirrup]

There is, in the catalogue.

[compact totem]

Oh there’s more

[amber citrus]

I want to see where you can build corvettes on Nintendo switch 1

[hard stirrup]

You can't. Switch 1 does not seem to be able to handle Corvettes.

[languid stratus]

Just to double check something, "resetting" the galaxy in New Beginnings doesn't actually wipe anything, right? I know that I can only get back to Euclid via the Anomaly afterwards

I'm looking to jump as many galaxies as possible by "resetting" into an empty galaxy, then reaching that one's core and going into a non-empty galaxy that way

[hard stirrup]

Nothing will be erased but you won't be able to do the reset story again...that's a one time thing. If you want to keep going to other galaxies you'll have to either go through galactic centers or you'll have to ask for rides from other players. But no more resetting storyline.

[languid stratus]

I know it's a one time thing

Also, is it normal or just really bad luck that every black hole I've gone into has jumped me almost completely "laterally" and gotten me only slightly closer to the core despite the long jumps?

[hard stirrup]

That's how black holes work...they jump you a long distance sideways and maybe 5k ly forward. Black holes that jump you up to 300k ly exist but you're extremely unlikely to find one of them.

[languid stratus]

Would you believe me if I said one launched me over 1M LY? Clear across the galaxy, I think.

Sadly I didn't screenshot or clip it

[hard stirrup]

Yeah, that's not new. Black holes often do but most of that distance is sideways. What I meant about 300k was 300k towards the center...like actual forward progress...those black holes are rare. There are also random encounter relic gates in space and those are completely unpredictable...they can move you a lot towards the center or a lot away from the center.

[languid stratus]

I guess as far as reaching the center goes, I'm best off looking for gateway system coords on the wiki and using a portal to cheese it?

[hard stirrup]

Once you have all the portal glyphs you can take a portal to get close to the center. Input the first glyph 16x and that will basically get you to the center. Once you want to jump a lot of galaxies you want to go through a black hole before the first galactic center and you'll crash close to the next galactic center, and the one after that and so on...that will only stop happening once you close and reboot the game so if you return to a new session of jumping galaxies then you'll need another black hole before galactic center.

[languid stratus]

I don't think I'll need that trick, actually. I'm glad I re-checked, because it turns out if I reset into a Lush one, I'll only be one galaxy away from my taget one, which I want because it has a purple core and isn't likely to be overly populated.

Wdym by inputting the first glyph 16 times though? Wouldn't that take me to a completely different place?

[hot trout]

Basically, glyphs are galactic coordinates

[languid stratus]

I know, which is why I'm confused as to why they said to "enter the same glyph 16x"

[hard stirrup]

That's the point...it's what the portals are for....you input coordinate addresses for places you want to go and the portal takes you there. And if you input the first glyph 16x the place it takes you to is close to the galactic core of the galaxy you are in so you don't have to travel all that distance the hard way.

[hot trout]

The first glyph would register as the galactic core if it could be portaled to, but since it cant, it outputs you somewhere semirandom nearby

[hard stirrup]

I literally told you why...because it gets you to the center so you can easily get to the next galaxy.

[hot trout]

Kinda wish the first glyph was the spiral though

[languid stratus]

So, which glyph is 0? Glyph 1? You're saying that if I just enter 0000-0000-0000 it'll drop me closer than the logged gateway systems on the wiki?

[hard stirrup]

0

[hot trout]

No, because it will reroute you

[languid stratus]

That's not very helpful. There is no glyph 0, the coords are in hexadecimal because there's 16 glyphs.

[hot trout]

Its because X000-0000-0000 would be the address of the galaxy core

[hot trout]

Glyph 1 is 0 in hexadecimal

[languid stratus]

But all of these gateway coords start with 0

[hot trout]

Which corresponds to the first/primary planet of the system

[languid stratus]

Alright, that makes sense

[hard stirrup]

Yes there is...the first glyph is 0...the 16 glyphs count as such: 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-a-b-c-d-e-f

[languid stratus]

I meant the names of the glyphs, how they're numbered ingame

They start at 1, not 0

Which means that glyph 16 is F

But if it did start at 0 like actual hex does, then glyph 15 would be F

[hard stirrup]

I already told you the first glyph 16x...which part of the 1st glyph is rocket science? But then you asked about glyph 0 so I thought you were talking about hex denominations so I told you 0, but then you couldn't get that either.

[languid stratus]

I was double checking that 0 on portal coords written in hex is in fact glyph 1

[languid stratus]

According to Aurix, entering 0000-0000-0000 wouldn't actually work

[hard stirrup]

So then why did you pretend you didn't know what I meant when I said 0?

[languid stratus]

I'd have to enter a number as the first one, even though it corresponds to the planet, then all zeroes

[languid stratus]

Pretend? Bruh

Why the fuck do you think I'm faking anything

I asked what 0 on a set of coords written the normal way translates to as the ingame glyph

[languid stratus]

If that first glyph is the planet, then why would 0000-0000-0000 take me to a system much farther from the core than, say 1000-0000-0000?

[hard stirrup]

Well now you're saying you were checking to make sure it was glyph 0 in hex but when I told you 0 you said there was no glyph 0 so which is it? Were you pretending you didn't know what glyph 0 was or you didn't know?

[languid stratus]

There isn't a glyph 0 ingame, Aurix clarified that I guessed correctly that 0 IN HEX translates to glyph 1 INGAME.

Which means all the others fall into place. I just need to offset each by one to get the ingame glyph numbers. So, 1 in hex is glyph 2, 2 in hex is glyph 3, etc.

[hard stirrup]

You literally asked if it was 0 or 1...and when I told you 0 you pretended that 0 didn't exist even though you KNOW there is. So you were pretending.

[languid stratus]

I was asking which ingame glyph the 0 was

Which is glyph 1

If translating the other way around, glyph 1 is 0 in hex

You answered my question as "0 in hex is 0"

I don't have image perms yet, so I can't post a screenshot of portal glyphs

[hard stirrup]

I had already told you multiple times to input the 1st glyph and when you asked for clarification about which was the 1st I told you 0 and then you pretended not to know what I was talking about.

[languid stratus]

Well, portal glyphs as written in hex

WHY ARE YOU INSISTING I'M TRYING TO BE A DECEPTIVE PIECE OF SHIT

WHY DO YOU THINK I'M PRETENDING

[uncut harness]

So whats the next big update. Just had a console burn out last month and i need to know how soon i need to buy a new one

[languid stratus]

I JUST WANTED A STRAIGHT ANSWER AND THE ONE GUY THAT WAS STARTING TO GIVE THEM LEFT

[uncut harness]

I just lost all my offline saves im not happy so good news please

[hard stirrup]

Bro...I told you to put in the 1st glyph 16x and when you asked if it was 0 or 1 I told you 0 you literally said there was no glyph 0 even though you KNEW there was and you literally asked if it was 0 or 1. How are you going to then tell me that glyph 0 doesn't exist when you literally asked about it?

[languid stratus]

Because glyph "0" ingame is NAMED "Glyph One"

And glyph "F" ingame is named "Glyph Sixteen"