nms-spoilers

[proud zodiac]

MOVE OUT

[remote palm]

now its a doorboy, whats going on

[hollow frost]

decapitated cowboy

[sleek wraith]

So did we get doors?

[proud zodiac]

Sean killed door boy :(

[wintry berry]

we got a BREACH

[proud zodiac]

He didn’t deserve that

[sleek wraith]

Gone too soon 😔

[hollow frost]

so this means its an expedition then?

[wintry berry]

straight out the door :(

[violet cosmos]

I done breached my pants.

[thick falcon]

Why do we have cowboy this isnt a major update

[wintry berry]

expedition and plenty of fixes/finetuning

[gloomy isle]

Honestly glad they're making new parts so soon

They look cool too

[wintry berry]

named update

[thick falcon]

Ah

[wispy kernel]

If THIS wasn't the door update.... Must be Light No Fire news. Must be.

[gloomy isle]

Would be even better if we got interiors but no matter

[wintry berry]

it is

[sleek wraith]

Turns out the door emoji didn’t represent hello games closing the door on NMS. It was actually Shaun closing the door on this realm

[wintry berry]

as in, nms upgrade, not lnf news

[gloomy isle]

It's the door update (it's called breach)

[hollow frost]

there better be a door in the new corvette parts

[thick falcon]

Well gang its been fun, ill report back in a month when I have expedition access

[sleek wraith]

Fr I need one for my corvette bedroom

[icy citrus]

It is the Door, LNF hopers are going to have a very long wait if you keep jumping on NMS emojis

[dense quartz]

First he couldn't make an circle, now he can't put the cowboy's head on properly. What next? The gib will be missing his hands? We need to do something about this.

[native carbon]

Every update gets a YEEEE-HAWWW

[native carbon]

Theres no doors added

[wintry berry]

#nms-spoilers message

[tulip ledge]

Sean if you are seeing this (which you probably are) are you ok?

[wintry berry]

he's fine

[humble kayak]

He's too busy working on LNF

[hollow frost]

we riot 🤬

[hollow frost]

thank you!

[wintry berry]

but i'm absolutely 1000% positive Sean is as hyped on updates as we are 😆

[tulip ledge]

I didn't understand what people meant by LNF up until now, Light No FIre

[tulip ledge]

Oh thats for sure, if not for the game then for the money

[brazen holly]

Outrageous 😠

[wintry berry]

LNF is the almost-1-year-old hype on a fantasy game that has a lot of similarities with NMS

technical, that is

[tulip ledge]

Indeed

[brazen holly]

The real scale earth thing is so cool

[hollow frost]

can you do expeditions anytime or do you need to progress pretty far?

[icy citrus]

Told him to stop using the phone for it

[humble kayak]

Almost 2 years old*

[hushed fossil]

Legend for mentioning that, I was looking online how to access the expedition.

I was looking for an in-game option to branch the save. At least now I know where to look for, it's midnight for me tho, you all have fun

[meager temple]

An update around a door emojii and automatic doors with proximity switch still bugged. That would be fun

[distant bronze]

Okay, a Gib? Whats Hidden in this Update, seems like theres something we haven't yet seen with it

[tulip ledge]

What?????? You have talked with Sean or is this a joke????

[humble kayak]

Found the HG lurker

[native carbon]

Gib means nothing

[humble kayak]

"we don't have any HG in our staff" my ass

/S

[wintry berry]

that's what the patchnotes/trailer are for, any minute now

[brazen holly]

No it's very serious

[tulip ledge]

Language

[wintry berry]

we still think @icy citrus is secretly Sean

[tulip ledge]

Imagine if it is

[wintry berry]

notice how Gleam is always afk for a few minutes when Sean is posting?

[icy citrus]

We had some toast and beans and I said, phone formatting don't work bruvva

[native carbon]

If gleam is sean then im besties with sean

[dreamy quartz]

Do we have early patch notes?

[humble kayak]

well that doesn't bode well since he just implied LNF's wait is going to be a long one

[violet cosmos]

Language your ass (I don't language about my ass)

[distant bronze]

I hope the Vette wrecks are something we can spawn in like with the Derelicts, add their summoners to the scrap dealer

[humble kayak]

Lol

[tulip ledge]

I just got a stroke

[cloud jolt]

@proud zodiac

No gifs in this channel please

[wintry berry]

you kiss yo momma with that mouth? 🫏

[proud zodiac]

GRRRR

[brazen holly]

I live you gunter

Love

Mwa

[tulip ledge]

Gunter got muted!!!!!!!

[proud zodiac]

That was a good meme too

And you ate it

:(

[dreamy quartz]

Come on guys help me out

What's the update about so far?

[wintry berry]

BREACH

#nms-spoilers message

[dreamy quartz]

I'm on vacation lmao

[fallow beacon]

corvette parts

[lavish void]

beach update

[dreamy quartz]

That it?

[proud zodiac]

I wish

[fallow beacon]

pretty much, but with GREAT variety!

[wintry berry]

breach*

[dreamy quartz]

Looks like a new expedition?

[wintry berry]

yup

[past cloak]

they fixed the first person vette weapons firing misalignment issue

[fallow beacon]

it is!

[wintry berry]

corvette parts as rewards

[dreamy quartz]

Alright, thanks

[wintry berry]

and oriented on space debris

[native carbon]

breach? more like voyagers part 2

[dreamy quartz]

I go home today but I won't get home until 11pm lol

[fallow beacon]

not all parts are expedition only btw

[dense quartz]

We can use our fishing rods in spacewalks now.
Next update: Overhauled asteroids with water on them.

[narrow sierra]

NMS Beach Episode?

[wintry berry]

Sean is always watching

[tired mantle]

Anyone checked if a Corvette landing pad is in the base researcher thing

?

[proud zodiac]

Gives the term meteor hammer a whole new meaning

[rotund perch]

No man's sky Xtreme beach volleyball

[keen cloud]

banner by any chance?

[wintry berry]

gender-unknown bikini-vy'keen let's goooo

[rotund perch]

I can't believe that game actually exists and made doa into a joke lol

Rip itagaki

[late tusk]

Lame corvette parts locked behind exped

[rotund perch]

No man's sky update 6.7

[dense quartz]

There's a bunch of parts that aren't locked.

[late tusk]

Ill just use goatfungus

[lavish void]

exped too tough for u?

[late tusk]

Wait can i even use goatfungus on linux

[rotund perch]

Anybody have splash screen yet?

[brazen holly]

What's that

[lyric coral]

Is the expedition just behind the real update?

[late tusk]

No i dont like doing them

[tulip ledge]

Guys we just got an update that changed the entire game, not too surprising that this isn’t as large as voyagers

[wintry berry]

tbh, i also said this for endgame gas giant environments, don't whine about late-game content, can't have all the rewards and not play the game, gotta earn your stripes 🤷‍♂️

[proud zodiac]

I mean if Linux can run Java then I think it could

[idle escarp]

New cockpit?

[late tusk]

Oh i unlocked that stuff legit.

On another save

[narrow sierra]

I mean, a Beach Episode expedition would be funny, especially if it had some references to base game story. (We could finally have the drink with Apollo that was mentioned near the end of the main story...)

[lyric coral]

are the Aeron parts animated?

[grizzled apex]

I've been waiting to take up that offer for years haha

[wintry berry]

there was a reddit post/meme about that one, good emotions

i'd love some more artemis/null story

[proud zodiac]

We could even see how Artemis is doing being the play tester for LNF in the simulation :)

[wintry berry]

would be insane if there's a similar-looking artemis character in LNF

especially as baddy/villain, just for the provoking plot

[proud zodiac]

“I was forsaken by one universe so might as well forsake this one”

[tired mantle]

We'll see when the expedition releases

[native carbon]

10 minutes till a trailer and patch notes

[lyric coral]

It’s not out?

[heavy light]

-# (you think)

[native carbon]

im always right

[heavy light]

Okay Mr toilet surprise

[wintry berry]

"you ABANDONED ME! You left me here to rot! I had to fight for my survival, and I earned my right!"

[proud zodiac]

Ngl

[native carbon]

u so funny hahaha

[wintry berry]

Sean, please take notes

[proud zodiac]

Would be kinda cool lol

[heavy light]

I mean you weren’t right that time

[wintry berry]

even if it's only a silent reference

[robust ruin]

No Door for coverettes in the new update...

[hollow frost]

shame!

[wintry berry]

Sean is going to keep hearing that forever lol

imagine a whole expedition, with intricate plot, just to discover the door blueprint for corvettes 🤣

[hollow frost]

no doors in the door update ;w;

[robust ruin]

its the only thing holding the entire universe together, so if someone was to take it everything would collapse in on itself.

[grand pollen]

Bruh GoG release before xbox

[wintry berry]

... and breaches the multiverse

[vague tiger]

Expedition 20: Portcullis

Step 1: build five doors

Step 2: walk through five player doors

Reward: door helmet

Nms players "best update ever"

[hollow frost]

door! >:3

[robust ruin]

I paid like 30-60$ for this I'm getting my money's worth then

[sand karma]

I'd pay for this tbh

[lyric coral]

I can think of a few doors, imagine one that acts like the classic UFO where it abducts you to enter, or a teleportation door

[sick flame]

where is sean??

[vague tiger]

Reading over this chat and giggling

We see you dude 👀

[wintry berry]

tweeting

[humble kayak]

No doors for old travellers

[rotund perch]

TRAILERRRR

[wintry berry]

plot twist: you need to use the proximity sensor and power node mechanic to make them work

[hard stirrup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNaY10DQkJw

[violet cosmos]

I'M BREACHING

[proud zodiac]

BRO

[quasi oyster]

https://youtu.be/eNaY10DQkJw?si=Y3F4VAFA438x1Ls8

[vague tiger]

Mining in zero g.....let's fkn go!

[wintry berry]

!hype

[cloud jolt]

@wintry berry Please use this command in #bot-spam.

[wintry berry]

:(

[safe kiln]

oh hell yeah

[proud zodiac]

||ATLAS CORVETTES?!||

Those look awesome

[icy citrus]

Trailer up, notes are coming right now

Spoiler embargo lifted

[proud zodiac]

Ahhhhhjhhhhhhhjjj

[wintry berry]

"Prime System Exploration"?

[severe tree]

[late tusk]

Cool more stuff i have to save edit

[wintry berry]

Aeron parts

[native carbon]

@grizzled apex the trailer suggests the corvette wrecks are not expedition exclusive

[dense quartz]

👀

[dull grotto]

Hopefully interior decor also gets more, and maybe an upgrade to be a bit more open floorplan.

[grizzled apex]

oh awesome, looks like they've added the corvette wreck spawn item somewhere then

Maybe as an alternative to the anomaly detector

[gloomy isle]

Looks cool! Though I hope the wrecks aren't just tied to the expedition

[runic mesa]

Patch notes up yet?

[wintry berry]

1 second ago lol

[runic mesa]

Oh, there they are lol

[wintry berry]

throwback to this btw

[wintry berry]

anyone want to acknowledge that he (we) called it?

[distant bronze]

oooooh

[gloomy isle]

Huh so it looks like they're not expedition exclusive!

Seems that there's a decent few new parts and the wrecks are the source for them

[wintry berry]

is the expedition up already?

[gloomy isle]

Nice little feature

Was hoping for that

[runic mesa]

Well. Switch is in the patch notes this time. Optimization improvements

[native carbon]

nah these are most likely expedition exclusive

[severe tree]

I guess expedition starts when all versions are updated. So maybe tomorrow?

[wintry berry]

and a number of highly-requested wedge-shaped modules

[wintry berry]

tonight, probably

[livid zinc]

One poster is of an Event Horizon....

[swift turret]

ok, what does ghost starship or prime system exploration mean

[safe quarry]

Right???

[native carbon]

it will start next hour

[gloomy isle]

Nope

The patch notes say they're a source of new Corvette modules (the non expedition ones)

[safe quarry]

where are these patch notes?

I don't see them on the website

[native carbon]

Bomber said to spawn them we need a special item

but WHAT ITEM

[gloomy isle]

They're linked in the trailer

[swift turret]

WHAT IS A GHOST STARSHIP!?

[gloomy isle]

"A significant number of new corvette modules are now salvageable from deep-space corvette wrecks and planetary scrapheaps. These include new landing gear, shields, weapons, connectors, and a number of highly-requested wedge-shaped modules that enable a huge variety of creative and complicated corvette builds."

[severe tree]

Oh shit... how do i tell my wifey i don't have time tonight to watch yt with her 🤣 💀

[native carbon]

@gloomy isle

[safe quarry]

ah ty ty ^.^

[azure scroll]

so in the patchnotes it says...' nd the Corvette Workshop now offers the option to apply a colour palette to an entire corvette.'
that was already an option anyway...

[grand pollen]

Patch notes are out yet STILL NO UPDATE ON XBOX

[distant bronze]

If i had to guess, probably something like the derelict beacon, maybe at the scrap dealer? Would add some extra utility to them

[native carbon]

scrap dealer has nothing new

[safe willow]

Did they add corvette landing pads to build?

[distant bronze]

Also seems to be a lot of focus on the purple star systems for this stuff, maybe they spawn in mostly in those?

[grand pollen]

No

[finite frost]

Quick Exped 20 Rewards video if anyone is curious

[native carbon]

@grizzled apex im legit confused. trailer and patch notes suggests corvette wrecks are not expedition exclusive, but it needs a special item that i cannot find anywhere

[meager temple]

So... Expedition Update but expedition is not enabled yet 😕

[grizzled apex]

I'm guessing the Space debris POI is the non-exped version, and that the item summon POI might be exped only? Couldn't check the SpaceDebris one out yet

[distant bronze]

Also whats this thing associated with the gas giants?

[grizzled apex]

Haven't seen any patch note features about them, probably HG inflating the trailer notes since the expedition rendezvous points will probably be in purple systems with a few milestones thrown in for gas giants id assume

[pliant aurora]

sweet they are making use of space walking

[azure scroll]

i think it's specifically purple system, not giants per se

[pliant aurora]

Honestly thought we would have to wait until next year

[grizzled apex]

Seems to reuse a lot of older exped features like Titan and Adrift

[sour fossil]

Prolly due to influx of players

Give them a chance to experience purple systems

[distant bronze]

I mean i hope they start adding purple system specific spawn points into them, would add a lot of function

[sour fossil]

And abandoned mode in expedition

[violet cosmos]

#nms-expedition when? tapping foot

[distant bronze]

Also a reason to keep exploring them

[violet cosmos]

Oh, nobody mentioned the expedition is out?

Well it's out.

[safe willow]

It is?

Nicee

Will start playing when I get home

[violet cosmos]

Just in time for me to go to bed, lol.

[rapid reef]

how do we find derelict ships to salvage parts from?

[native carbon]

😭

[distant bronze]

That seems to be what has people confused, there might be an expedition exclusive version of them, but also a normal in game version?

[pliant aurora]

Wonder what the infestations are about

[runic mesa]

At least Switch is actually mentioned this time. Comforted by at least that. But we'll have to wait to see what "optimizations and improvements" means...

[grizzled apex]

So if switch 1 doesn't get this update either, they're missing out on 2 expeditions worth of rewards

[distant bronze]

Me too, would be nice to have a bit of hazard to space walk salvage work

[runic mesa]

Surprise corvette Switch 1 drop in the redux update lololol

[hushed fossil]

Join the team, 0:30AM 😅

[violet cosmos]

6:30AM here. My sleep schedule is breached

[gloomy isle]

In that case I wonder if we just use the anomaly detector to search for them?

[runic mesa]

Anyway, I have to go to work. Someone ping me if hell freezes over and Switch 1 updates today

[hushed fossil]

But anomaly detector is already so noisy, normal anomaly, organic whale frigate which is a pain and sort of your need to ignore the first message to trigger the organic frigate, adding more to it will become a carnage 😅

[distant bronze]

Well if the Space Debris is a POI and not an item summon, than you might just come across it while you're pulsing through the system

[dense quartz]

I hope so.

It'd be neat if they're just another space encounter.

[timber crescent]

I wonder what prime system exploration, infestations and ghost starship mean

[hushed fossil]

Yeah coz anomaly detector isn't that easy to get anyway, let's hope

[timber crescent]

Also survive gas giants, have they added additional hazards?

[hard summit]

Me neither

[distant bronze]

I'm hoping that prime system exploration applies to purple systems, because in that case i want to revisit them now

[violet cosmos]

huh

  "ForceBlackHolesAtPartyUAs": [
    4
  ],

[hushed fossil]

Right now, only folks who finished the main history can access purple system.
This could be an incentive for players to finish the main storyline by granting them a temp access to those system.

[violet cosmos]

"ForceAllSystemsAbandoned": true,

[brisk palm]

Now that atlas corvette parts are out, do I hear living corvettes?

[distant bronze]

Also i think captain steve on his stream found that theres an option on the freighters to activate singularity engine with the captain, was that an existing thing?

[timber crescent]

That makes sense

Does anybody know if you can explore the insides of the abandoned corvettes? Or just salvage

That's probably where the infestations are

[hard summit]

Found em
https://www.nomanssky.com/2025/10/expedition-twenty-breach/

[hushed fossil]

The release note shows it broken like the derelict in half and that you must use the laser to grab the parts

[deep parrot]

I found a derelict Corvette.

Got some Anomaly Detectors from asteroid mining.

[icy citrus]

Clear something up for me

Is the expedition live on Pc?

[deep parrot]

One of them led me to a derelict Corvette.
Was able to break the 2 Medusa Reactors it had on it for parts.

[grand pollen]

Yes

[gloomy isle]

Ayy nice! Outside of the expedition?

[deep parrot]

Yes. I wasn;t aware that was live already, so I was trying to find all the new things raw. xD

[dense quartz]

Yep, but I had to start a new save, it's not available in the space anomaly terminal

[native carbon]

YESSSS tysm @deep parrot

[gloomy isle]

Ayyyy that's great news

Was hoping we'd get EVA stuff to do so I'm very happy

Even if it's just small rn

[native carbon]

@grizzled apex turns out the mysterious item was just an anomaly detector, also question, when is the expedition planned to release?

[deep parrot]

I'm not seeing an option to launch a new expedition from theh Terminus.

[hard summit]

Is the expedition universe abandoned as in no one sees each other?

[grizzled apex]

There's another item, but I suppose thats only used in the expedition then

[deep parrot]

It's letting me start a New Save for the Expedition, but not use my existing save.

[gloomy isle]

I'd guess that's just to force them to spawn vs them being a regular POI like in normal

[native carbon]

Same

[late tusk]

The new parts look cool

[hushed fossil]

But new save is raw with nothing and no access to Anomaly, no??

[deep parrot]

I just started it. So idk

[distant bronze]

Okay so the new wrecks are pulse encounters, makes it worth it to explore more

Depends also on how much the new parts can be traded for too. If they add a lot to the chances of bartering they're worth hunting down

[solar turret]

What exactly does this mean

[safe willow]

I read something lmalong the lines of "vertical corvette parts" in the Changelog, do we already know how they look like?

[charred nebula]

So its expedition plus some minor additions to normal gameplay if I understand it well?

[distant bronze]

Theres a few in there, like are space wrecks and ghost starships the same thing?

[dense quartz]

Also odd that the patch notes at the bottom don't mention anything about abandoned corvettes in space.

[charred nebula]

Yeah the wrecked corvettes in space sound great, but it makes it all the more weird that npcs dont use corvettes, like how did they get there.

[pliant aurora]

I think its just talking about exploring purple systems . I could be wrong though.

[gloomy isle]

It makes me hopeful they're gonna be adding more EVA stuff in future now

[dense quartz]

I'm sure they'll keep expanding on it.
Like right now at least we're not the only one in the universe who used corvettes lol.

-# Unlike exocraft..

[charred nebula]

Im just happy they're adding more corvette parts

Please 10 more updates that do that

[distant bronze]

Because of how there seems to be some element of Procedural generation to these wrecks, maybe they're the foundation of NPC Corvettes?

[pliant aurora]

i really hope so

[dense quartz]

WOAH I just exited out of a startship in first person using the original 1.0 animation!!!
I tried it again but it defaulted to the regular boring one. I got so excited for a second there.

[distant bronze]

I feel like we're going to have to look into Purple star systems and see if anything has changed exploring the system. I'm wondering if the Gas giant thing is Additional hazards going through the upper atmosphere?

[dense quartz]

So uhh, there's very clear voice lines in abandoned space stations now. Not a muffle, actual clear voices.

Never heard that before.

[distant bronze]

Yeah what are they saying?

[dense quartz]

It's just gibberish.. or sounded french lol

[distant bronze]

Seems like they've added things to abandoned regions, in that case the purple system mention makes sense, considering they almost always spawn abandoned stations

[charred nebula]

Also, balance has been restored

Things are finally as they are meant to be

[dense quartz]

They do, red ones almost never do.

[distant bronze]

Maybe? Smart move if thats the case, adds a lot of incentive to explore abandoned systems and reach the end game.

[dense quartz]

I think so, yeah.

[charred nebula]

Red ones are usually uncharted

Abandoned systems are the ones that have abandoned stations

[dense quartz]

Oh yeah, abandoned space stations definitely have new sound scapes. There's random alien voices talking to me lol.

[charred nebula]

Yes, usually its purple systems I think

[native carbon]

@grizzled apex

[grizzled apex]

there we go

looks like there's a new building part category for internal corvette parts

Im pretty sure the model / icons etc for these existed already, but i believe they added the building product for them this update

[sour fossil]

The toilet module died for this fr

[dusky gazelle]

Nope those are just the voices in your head. Not the game.

[grizzled apex]

Those have been there since the start since the space version is just a reuse of the planetary crashed freighters. You could even shoot down their doors in your ship. Makes sense that they'd be interactive

The interactions have been there too iirc, but you couldn't really try them out without your life support running out

[dense quartz]

The voices in my head usually speak in my language and shout.
These are in-game because they have a filter on and are speaking some alien language.

[gloomy isle]

So they're accessible using EVA now?

[dense quartz]

Also I dunno when they improved the crafting tree but this is awesome.

[azure scroll]

anyone else having major graphical issues since the update?

[cosmic anvil]

Expedition is out?

[zenith perch]

They will

[azure scroll]

just me then?

[distant bronze]

Im looking forward to seeing what kind of builds people are going to do with the new parts

[pliant aurora]

🤣

[humble kayak]

RIP the toilet module

that would've been nice to have even just for looks

[cosmic anvil]

Considering #nms-expedition is active, I'm going to assume yes

[finite frost]

IT"S UP!!!!!

[humble kayak]

I'd assume they just didn't see much point in adding it

Or maybe they considered lore implications or smth idk lmao

HG works in mysterious ways

[cosmic anvil]

Irl, spacesuits can do that temporarily

They'd have to be emptied at certain points anyway

[lyric coral]

Give us duke nukem poop physics

[cosmic anvil]

The wildlife has them

[prime urchin]

For those who've started the expedition, how's the atmosphere? If it's spooky, would it benefit from the whole VR thing from the start?

[spiral patrol]

the expedition will only last 3 weeks?

half the amount of corvette

[humble kayak]

Is the update not out on Xbox Series yet?

[spiral patrol]

yeah why is my question

[wintry berry]

i asked this 2.5h ago and we don't know yet afaik

tbh i cannot genuinely say whether it's a joke or not, or that there was an actual module for it

i expect the ambassador class to be this clean, hypermodern seat, the thunderbird class your average stainless steel, and the titan class some dirty, messed up stink-hole

1x1 module size

oh, and since we don't have doors yet.... 🤷‍♂️ 😆

[humble kayak]

IIRC there was a model for it but it was never implemented obv

I don't remember it being textured and I don't think it had collision

I'm pretty sure it was just a stall, the door of which you couldn't open

I don't know if it had the three theme variants or not yet

[wintry berry]

now i want it

Seaaaaaaan!

[humble kayak]

they've got a zendesk so you could always politely ask. Though, if it were me, I'd compile it into a list of other suggestions instead of just asking them for one thing

[late edge]

Just saw the update.its small but deep space salvage is an awesome feature gg hello games

[runic mesa]

Wait, PS4 and Xbox still haven't dropped?

[humble kayak]

not when I last looked

I'll check for Xbox since Im on mine rn

[humble kayak]

Nothin yet

[dusky gazelle]

Xbox screwed again

[late edge]

Switch 1 players meanwhile

[runic mesa]

Right? Like, I get the frustration, but as Switch 1 player it's hard to feel empathy about a 1-2 delay. I wish all I had to deal with is a few day delay. The luxury.

Right now, it's putting a tinfoil hat on and wondering was "optimizations" means. 😛

[fervent fern]

Anything new in the game files with this update? I guess it's early to ask lol.

[tulip ledge]

So question yall, are the wrecks only in the expedition or can you find them and excavate corvette parts from them in the normal save?

[late edge]

Normal save

[fleet crest]

There a list of expedition quests and rewards yet?

[tulip ledge]

Got ya

[fervent fern]

#nms-expedition message
This?

[fleet crest]

Just saw it go up after I asked lol

Debating if it is worth doing or not

[fervent fern]

Nah, go for it.

[fleet crest]

Not interested in the corvettes tbh so its kind of a dull one for me

[fervent fern]

Having parts locked because you didn't do it does suck. Perhaps not now, but in a few months -- or even years -- when you start playing with corvettes.

[fleet crest]

As said I dont care for corvettes so no interest lol

[distant bronze]

question, are the parts like the cannons in the last expedition where we can build them? is it possible to trade them?

like how we can trade iron vulture parts?

[deep mountain]

im still waiting to hear what the final verdict is for switch too, if I didn't get my copy refunded I'd be much more annoyed

[gloomy isle]

Are the wrecks at all common?

In normal

[obsidian stump]

So, no corvette landing pads for base eh

[hybrid pendant]

told you it was gonna be a blog post not a update page

[icy citrus]

https://www.nomanssky.com/2025/10/expedition-twenty-breach/

[obsidian stump]

Power doors seem more responsive

[glass flare]

Yeah I'm not a fan of locking the first group of parts behind a time-limited event, but I kind of expected it. I just wish we had gotten an update that had more than just a Corvette focus. this is two updates now with nothing but one feature

but hey at least we finally got Steam Input on Mac

[livid zinc]

So with Sean using the gib emoji today I guess the gib/big isn't fact any more?

[icy citrus]

Never was

The only constant is there is no constant

[glass flare]

or Sean is starting to forget things in his old age

I'm interested to see what this looks like

Improved lighting transitions when changing environments - notably when warping between solar systems, when entering or exiting planetary atmosphere, or when moving between interior and exterior locations.

[livid zinc]

Only sad thing for me is update broke the settlement corvette workaround folks were using for a guaranteed corvette spawn position for glitch building.

[versed meadow]

Also fixed the deleting from a corvette ship when at the workshop. The trick to not having a reactor and stuff.

[gloomy isle]

I don't think we'll get another entirely corvette focused update again, but I would be surprised if corvette parts weren't a staple of expedition rewards/ extra additions in large updates in the future

Similar to base parts I guess

[glass flare]

Yeah, not to sound overly cynical but they're an "easy" way of padding update content

[obsidian stump]

ok i lied about the power doors

they still buggy

[gloomy isle]

I mean, that's why they've always done base parts in the past too

They're a great category for rewards and they can provide themed stuff to add onto feature updates

Cosmetics, pets, and expedition starships too

Personally I'd rather have new Corvette pieces than pets or base parts

[obsidian stump]

so wait, are the parts themselves locked behind the questwall or is it like a blueprint for a part?

[humble kayak]

No update on Xbox yet?

[river garden]

I can't belive I been playing since 2017. I remember the day that the first update came and it looked like a completely different game. And now, so many new things consistently is like, how?

[obsidian stump]

does this mean you can only get a few parts during the expo and that's it?

[gloomy isle]

The Atlas parts are behind the expedition, but the regular parts aren't

I'd assume you can get as many as you like but I'm not sure

[obsidian stump]

Save edit to the rescue I guess

[livid zinc]

Or get them once & change difficulty so free

[obsidian stump]

That doesnt work on permadeath save

[livid zinc]

Ahhhhh

[obsidian stump]

or if you lock settings

[livid zinc]

Never played permadeath

Or abandoned

[gloomy isle]

Just asked in the main chat and they're likely craftable

[livid zinc]

The annoying one that was locked behind expedition was the singularity engine

[distant bronze]

I think the parts are like the cannon from the last one, where they're craftable corvette parts?

[late tusk]

the Aeron ones are locked behind exped

[runic mesa]

Annnd still nay on PS4, Xbox (and Switch, but we were expecting that)

[humble kayak]

yeah I'm surprised it's not out on Xbox yet

I don't think there was a very long wait at all for Voyagers so this is a little unexpected

[glass flare]

Fixed an issue that could prevent some varieties of hazardous flora appearing on planets.

HG....guys. No. There's too much hazardous flora on planets already now. Every 50 feet there's another one. Please stop.

I know. I'm just saying...they should all be sent to the World of Glass. more annoying than Sentinels

[bronze hollow]

Where do I get the new sensor if I don't do the expedition?

or homing beacon, whatever it is

[cosmic anvil]

It kinda serves as an emergency oxygen supply

[glass flare]

there was an old prelaunch interview where Sean said he was watching plants attack birds out of the sky. I guess they took that out. yeah it's a shame, they've always felt very videogamey because they only attack the player.
I just can't stand that rubber sound the gas plants make, it is nails on chalkboard for me

[final narwhal]

getting constantly yteeted 10k from arcadia is not fun at all. what the devil guys?

Not only that, its happened after I landed on a planet too, getting yeeted into orbit

[hushed fossil]

It's only good for Nexus mission, the easiest way to get quicksilver, 100% annoying otherwise and they are often hidden so you are minding your own business and they "gotcha ya bit..." 😑

[mossy sandal]

turn off the multiplayer

i had the same issue and it worked

[austere tide]

Kinda like Corvette 2 yeah?

[mystic sequoia]

Still no xbox update

[late edge]

How do i find the space wrecks?

[broken owl]

via space ship boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
...
lol IDK homie im just being a troll. I am nowhere near readdy to start hunting down space wrecks, im NMS baby.

[azure scroll]

did you find this out? i also wanna know

does anyone know?

[ebon spoke]

So the Fireship Arcadia requires the beacon thing to find, you can't get that blueprint outside of the expedition afaik. That seems fine, since the Arcadia is a specific ship created for expedition 20's story and doesn't server much purpose aside from giving lore.

What I want to know more about though, is the other new space POI added in the update. From what I can tell from the files, it should be a regular pulse encounter that you should find if you're flying a corvette and shouldn't be exlusive to the expedition. Has anyone seen one yet?

[mortal fog]

With the latest expo we get some cool corvette cosmetics. Will we only get 1 like we only got 1 of the cannons last time???

[azure scroll]

please let me know if u find out somehow, i want to know the same

[hot trout]

The issue would be that it doesnt have a unique indicator for what it is, so we cant do the "pulse until specific thing shows up" method

[ebon spoke]

Looked at it a bit closer and its supposed to just load the same model as the expedition specific one. There's proc gen for some textures/colours and for the location of the black box but that's all the variety it has.

Looks like it's also blocked from spawning during the expedition, but they may have made a mistake with that? It's seemingly blocked during season 39 which doesn't look right

[charred nebula]

Ugh, I kinda hoped the corvette wrecks would be a space poi

[azure scroll]

argh they're not then? How do you know?

[charred nebula]

They're pulse drive events

[azure scroll]

can you explain? you mean like er... anomalies?

ah yeah... so they can be found outside the expedition?

[charred nebula]

Yes

[azure scroll]

any restrictions? i've yet to find one. Purple only or?

[charred nebula]

Im more so lamenting that they're another pulse drive event instead of actually point of interest

[charred nebula]

Nope

[azure scroll]

sorry if i sound dumb, so i could technically find one in any system, perhaps using an anomaly scanner for example...

[hot trout]

But... all derelicts are pulse events

[charred nebula]

Yeah, its a shame

I wish they added actual points of interest into space

Things you bump into without pulse drive event

[hot trout]

Ok but literally how would you achieve that? Lol

[charred nebula]

Kinda like asteroids and space stations

[hot trout]

It would be so easy to miss them

[charred nebula]

I dont think so, no

If they were like a semi rare thing that could spawn instead of asteroid in asteroid field

Or maybe they could spawn above certain types of planets, or in clusters like asteroid fields, except it would be ship graveyards

Maybe with maps that could point you in the right direction like they do for planet pois

[sour fossil]

It's easier to reuse existing framework of rare space encounters activated with pulse drive than to prepare a whole new one

Then again, broken Corvettes are a new thing and HG might iterate on them in future

[merry helm]

What to bring for the expeditions? Do you know?

[charred nebula]

It is easier, Im not going to dispute that, but its lame

Random event that pops up while using fast travel isnt the same as stumbling upon something in real time

[ebon spoke]

I hope that one day we do get persistent space POIs but they really don't have any of the framework down for them yet.

Even black holes and Atlas stations have to be set to spawn right next to the space station to ensure they don't intersect with any planets

[safe quarry]

I thought there was some code to avoid planets when spawning things? But yes I 100% agree. If its a rendering issue, all they have to do is have bubbled coordinates in space which are designated by an icon that when we are inside it spawns (then despawns) the relevant POI. that would at least give the illusion of these being permanent fixtures.

So a using a derelict scanner wouldn't just be a case of pulsing in any given direction, but towards an icon that would get blipped when you use it.

Same for anomaly detectors.

And if the bubble is large enough and there's some degree of offset for the icon, that would avoid two people in multiplayer spawning a POI on top of one another, so still getting their own separate instances of it.

Planets have had so much TLC over the years and yet other than the introduction of the pulse POIs, it feels all space gets are constant dogfighting updates and new freighter battles. Especially with spacewalking now, some TLC for space is sorely needed.

I mean space POIs aren't even shared for passengers on your corvette

What I think they should start doing is announcing at the start of each update year what the theme is going to be. Like: Space focused updates. That would solve the issue of people feeling like they keep dropping every idea after implementing it, it would allow some cohesion between content updates so they can actually tie into one another over time, and it means they don't have to cram everything they want to do on a particular component of the game in one update or risk having to move onto the next.
Each update can still be exciting in exactly what its going to bring, but we'd know the general throughline for the year.

[grizzled apex]

This is season 39. The season number is the absolute number of expeditions they've run including reduxes. The display number is the actual unique exped number

[ebon spoke]

ah, that clears that up then

so yeah, it seems that corvette wrecks have to be manually triggered in the expedition, but are randomly encountered by pulse jumping with a corvette in other modes.

[sour fossil]

So I guess there's a property that controls it

In the experience spawn table data?

[bronze hollow]

Thanks for all the info about the wrecked corvettes. Seems odd to me that they wouldn’t just add it as a sensor like the one that finds derelicts. Seems easy to me but I’m no coder

It really is annoying when they add something really cool and useful - like the elixirs - only to make them a one shot thing we never see again. I would love to use elixirs regularly

Seems the sensor for the scavanged corvettes is also a one shot

[bronze hollow]

I have tried pulsing around and using anomaly detectors. Nothing so far. I ran out of detectors 🙁

[cunning flower]

did anyone datamine potential future corvette updates

iirc some of these parts were already in the files at 6.0

[tulip ledge]

So everyone, a day after the update, anyone who can summarise what you can do now that is new that isn't only in the expedition?

[hasty nova]

New corvette parts and you can leave your corvette and mine space rocks with your multitool

If that's a thing you've ever wanted to do

[tulip ledge]

But can you find the space wrecks outside of the expedition?

Or is it exclusive

[hasty nova]

I haven't seen anything definitive that says they exist outside the expedition, and I aint about to waste a billion anomaly detectors looking lol

[tulip ledge]

Ill try to do it today, duplicate as many as i can and find them

Anything in the datamining prespective

Oh and if i find anything I'll write it here

Will take a while but I'll be sure to write here if i find anything

Although something that is interesting is that on the page on nomanssky.com it doesnt state that space wrecks are only part of the expedition. It states it as a new feature added. Same thing when you look at the twitter post summarising the update. It states the space wrecks and breach expedition as separate points not linked to each other.

[rich frigate]

They do exist outside of the expedition (I was lucky and found one on the first try), but without a dedicated item to search for them, it's very tedious to do so with anomaly detectors.

[tulip ledge]

It seems like it is a feature that is available even outside of the update just very rare

[tulip ledge]

Cool! Ill still check out if you can find them using anomaly detectors, also take a photo of what it would look like

[deep mountain]

so why is switch mentioned in the notes is that just generically mentioning switch 2

[runic mesa]

They usually specify Switch 2 in the patch notes if it's for 2 only. They did that with Voyagers fixes.

As for what exactly "optimizations amd improvements" means, and if it's for both consoles or just Switch 1... no idea. We'll have to wait and see.

[azure scroll]

Someone on reddit earlier did confirm that the corvette wrecks can be found in space.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/1oe1hj4/psa_corvette_wrecks_are_in_the_base_game/

@tulip ledge ^

but it seems (judging from the comments) that it's easier to just search for corvette parts the standard way on planets, rather than wasting anomaly detectors.... I assume besides the unique content found in the expedition, the other 'new' parts are in the loot pool?

[woeful flare]

How do i get floating anomalous creature

It justsay in a purple system i cant seem to figure it out

Also i found a "cargo box" corvette part but looks like i cant use it, it nowhere in the build menus

[mossy sandal]

i just threw creature pellets on the ground and birds came to eat and opened their menu asap

[hot trout]

I notice I tend to get more of certain parts from the encounter wrecks than I get from scrap, so I think the wrecks are more likely to give rarer stuff

[azure scroll]

interesting, might be a different loot chance/pool?

wish there was a way to find them without relying on RNG

[tulip ledge]

Thanks man, I appreciate the tag! Cool that they have it normally too!

[azure scroll]

Yeh no worries man, thought you were as curious as I was, i was itching to find out for sure myself 🙂

happy hunting

also tag me if you find any easier ways 😛

[humble kayak]

Anything new in the data mines? Or is it too early to tell

[analog breach]

Too early

[distant bronze]

Honestly they should just add the detectors for the wrecks to the Scrap traders for 2-500K credits or so, about how much parts cost at the corvette terminals

[ebon spoke]

There might be some unused corvette parts, but it was a very small update so don't expect much

[humble kayak]

Ofc, I wouldn't expect a boatload or anything

[dense quartz]

That's actually a cool idea.

[analog breach]

Money is not hard to get. Imo it could be more expensive like 2 mil per pop

[distant bronze]

Might as well add some extra function to the scrap trader

[analog breach]

Idk why he is not selling corvette parts

He should have option to exchange salvaged scrap for goodies

[distant bronze]

He's kind of the perfect trader to have them all at, like a random rotation

[pure talon]

Just finished main storyline, reached atlas, decided to reset the galaxy ||(these two lines are why I went to #nms-spoilers, saying that just in case)||, and... all of my equipment was damaged so hard that it's easier to consider it all beyond repair than actually attempting to repair it

so, the grand question: how do I get off the ground now? And can I summon my freighter to another galaxy?

[lethal moth]

yes you can summon your freighter to another galaxy, your freighter will be unharmed

you need to collect resources on the planet to repair your stuff now

just like in the beginning

or you can set it to custom and free repair it all if its too much

[pure talon]

Shouldn't be too expensive on multitool and exosuit, that's why I was curious about freighter

Starship, on the other hand...

[analog breach]

Its a "soft reset" or "ng+ " of sorts.

[pure talon]

Alright, thanks for answers. Time to explore again, I guess.

[analog breach]

Time for late game content

[hot trout]

Oooohhh this is a really good idea. Especially since the things youd most want scrap metal to buy are one-time purchases or easier to acquire in pirate systems

[brisk palm]

Anyone know what planet the relic is in the final system? It says there’s a relic planet in the system but I can’t find it

[distant bronze]

i mean it would breathe a lot of life into the derelicts and grinding for tainted metal

[hot trout]

It would be cool to exchange tainted metal for corvette parts

[distant bronze]

As well as the Corvette wreckage sensors, would be fine if they charged 100-140 Tainted metal a pop for them, i would buy them

[hot trout]

They don't stack tho

[distant bronze]

Well even than, you'd have a guaranteed spawn and can get them at every populated station

[hot trout]

True

[distant bronze]

IMO this is kind of a no brainer for HG they should follow through with

[tired mantle]

The derelict corvettes can be found with an anomaly detector btw

[verbal cove]

So what's new with the breach update, I have to many games with events right now

[hot trout]

I guess I'll put this here as well, since it might indicate even more corvette parts coming in the future. Do any data miners recognize the part here?

[ebon spoke]

That's just the ambassador heavy booster with some other parts clipped into it

[hot trout]

Ohhh, ok

[solar wolf]

just a few bugs like getting thrown 2000+ units in a random direction when exploring corvette wrecks or battling horrors on planet surfaces, and flying through old stations when there's already 4 people landed there, but so far fun!

[gloomy isle]

Turning multiplayer off will fix all of that

[solar wolf]

thanks Lazarou, but I'm already lonely as it is in the expedition 🙂

(I'll give it a shot though)

[cosmic anvil]

Yepp, a lesson I learnt in Expedition 19 in a hard way

Never do expeditions in MP

Which honestly does make me a little concerned for LNF

But, building a new game from the start with multi-player as its focus shouldn't result in many bugs

[gloomy isle]

Yeah, I'd be surprised if the netcode and MP implementation isn't different from the ground up for LNF

[solar wolf]

most do though - thankfully they usually have stress tests and shakedown runs to test netcode - I'm sure LNF will as well.

[kind solar]

Hello, I found a robot named Autophage K-Z68/V58 after triggering a mission. I spoke to it and repaired it with crystals found on site, but then it started repeating the same thing over and over and my mission disappeared. Does this mean anything to anyone?
Should I just note down the binary code + the number for now, or is there something else I need to do?

[analog breach]

Binary code is lore puzzle. Gather all binary codes and decode for hiden message

[distant bronze]

im personally hoping the corvette wrecks are the foundation for procedurally generated npc corvettes

[cosmic anvil]

then a space station re-design cause imagine competing with NPCs for a parking space 😭 😭

[distant bronze]

I mean, depends on how much of the systems traffic they make up, if there's one corvette for every 8-10 normal ships, than the four landing pads in station should be good

[cosmic anvil]

true that, but then players going full creative mode will probably stay for hours on end occupying a landing pad

in MP, that could be a problem

[distant bronze]

I can see that for civ hubs maybe, but thats something they need to address already. The stations should have an "all landing pads full" announcement, maybe aome parking spaces like freighters on the outside as a "holding pattern" option

because landing when theyre all taken already causes the issue of flying through the station

[gloomy isle]

I'd be surprised if it wasn't them practicing with space POIs in general tbh

The fact they were so quick to add something related to EVA (even if it's small) shows they definitely want to take it further imo

[distant bronze]

I wouldn't be surprised if the next major update isn't a hard rework of the anomalies we encounter in pulse space

like the pirats listening stations, the refugee colony ships, the containment structures, but reworked with more interactivity in space walking

[hybrid pendant]

ok phew i was scared its expedition only fuck

[plain spire]

I want a deep ocean overhaul

Need more life down there

And some predators

[hot trout]

Most of the life is in the deep oceans tbh

[ebon spoke]

After having gone through pretty much everything added, it looks like Breach only included 2 unused things:

This Aeron corvette gun

and this slice piece, would match with the Arcadia Stabiliser

It appears that the gun was repurposed into the engine part? They have the same basic shape but the engine is much more detailed, and the barrel part is changed

[hot trout]

Pieces often share similarities or even reused assets with others

[hot trout]

For this im not entirely convinced, but thats because I'd need to literally see it, lol

Like the stabilizer on top of the rim

[hot trout]

Idk why I remembered the stabilizer being wider than it is

[ebon spoke]

The rim part looks pretty unfinished. Like they just took the bottom half of the stabiliser, mirrored it and then filled in the gaps

[grizzled apex]

Oh that's unused? It looked so similar to the engine I thought i had it on my corvette already when I checked the model

[fervent fern]

Would be nice to have this one...

[timber crescent]

You know what's crazy that I just realised. LNF will potentially be the first VR, multiplayer, high quality sandbox rpg.

I know I'm normally doom & gloom but that's an exciting thought, if it launches with the same amount of content that nms has now it could be the vr killer app

[runic mesa]

FYI, on the ongoing Switch 1 issue. I booted up Faux 6.10 and having a poke. Something kinda interesting:

This is my QS merchant. No community research tier, but the ODS is functioning normally. And everything from ya'lls tiers was already unlocked for me to purchase.

HG had to have deliberately unlocked these on the Switch 1 side themselves, right? Can any dataminers possibly shed more light on this?

[uncut harness]

Did you all see that mining asteroids has a chance to spawn space jelly fish? Has that always been a thing?

[analog breach]

They added that some time ago

[ebon spoke]

about three years back, yeah. The expedition makes them much more common though, don't know how long it'd been since I saw one before it

[uncut harness]

Jeez, I've never seen it and I've been playing for a long time haha

[cosmic anvil]

I am seeing them only now as well

then again I have been playing only since Relics

[uncut harness]

It's really cool, I hope they up the chance a bit more after this

I only really have like 900 hours in the game which might not be enough

[hot trout]

I definitely remember space jellyfish spawning occasionally when mining asteroids

It was definitely uncommon, and I thought i remembered them dealing damage

I'd bet they were more common this expedition due to the connection with the water, since mining underwater minerals also has a chance to spawn such creatures

[grizzled apex]

Huh, strange. Either HG changed the shop number for Switch for all of these to be a community mission that was already completed, or (for switch specifically), they're returning a current community mission number greater than the one for these decals

There's ~ 4 more community missions after the decals though (although one of them is for an expedition rerun), and since the reruns start on the 19th, we'll probably get another update till then, which might get the switch CM shop back on track with the others?

[fervent fern]

Oh, we have a date for the reruns already?

[grizzled apex]

yea it went up serverside at the same time breach was released

Currently starting a week after this expedition ends

[fervent fern]

Interesting, thank you!

I guess no surprises... should be the four expeditions we had this year

[analog breach]

It will be the earliest reruns we had

[runic mesa]

It's really interesting. I mean, why though? Some kind of bizarre quiet, "Yeah, we know, sit tight"?

[grizzled apex]

Oh what the hell, so I wasn't hallucinating on the start screen, HG really did shorten Breach by a week...

Server currently shows the end date as <t:1762470000> . Reduxes still on for the 19th though

[runic mesa]

Huh...

So they shortened it to two weeks? The Cursed length?

[grizzled apex]

so far, yes. could change again later though, so i'll try to keep an eye

[runic mesa]

Any theories why Switch 1 has the current reward set unlocked...?

[runic mesa]

So almost a two week downtime...

[grizzled apex]

Its kinda strange because the rollover date for these is supposed to be <t:1764154800>, so another week after the reduxes start so far. Guessing the dates'll change again later and we might be done with the CM earlier ? HG might've come to those dates after the NS release I suppose

[runic mesa]

Trying not get hopes up, but it does looks like something's going on behind the scenes. If stuff is getting oddly shuffled around.

[distant bronze]

Honestly im of the opinion breach was supposed to be a full sized Update and not just an expedition. But because of the switch update issues they decided to trim it back because they didnt want there to be two delayed updates in a row on one of the platforms

[analog breach]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk. I hope sony will release the update in mon-wed window on ps4.

[runic mesa]

Oh crud, I forgot PS4 is still waiting!

[analog breach]

Yep

[grizzled apex]

So Switch 1 doesnt have the exped and neither does PS4 (on a shortened time) ?

Weird rollout for this exped

[fervent fern]

Quite interesting. They wrote in the release page "three weeks", so I'd be surprised if they actually changed that

[analog breach]

Atm Yes

[grizzled apex]

Yep, I was kinda taken aback seeing the exped page switch to 2 weeks yesterday but chalked it up to the text setting function messing up. Its really strange

[analog breach]

Trying to fit mixtape rerun ?

[grizzled apex]

Who knows though, maybe they'll push it back again later once PS4 gets the update 🤷

[fervent fern]

Some odd moves from HG nevertheless 😆

[grizzled apex]

It was already pretty well on time with the expeds tbf

[runic mesa]

Still the end time change + the Switch 1 community rewards suddenly unlocking are making this kinda weird.

[distant bronze]

I mean, this had to have been the worse update lag thats ever happened, the community missed an entire expedition

[runic mesa]

It's pretty obvious that Switch 1 failing Nintendo certification threw stuff into turmoil.

[grizzled apex]

Something strange is that I can request info from the HG servers directly, but Auth requests sent from my game seem to be failing. Usually when we have down time, the servers just don't respond to any sort of request iirc

[distant bronze]

Something more dynamic function wise in the works?

[runic mesa]

They're working on something...?

[analog breach]

INHALES COPIUM ** ....... LNF

[grizzled apex]

Dunno, the request format is the same from the game and my direct requests so it honestly shouldnt be failing. Unless they messed up the internal handling of the authResponse in the last experimental patch and the game just thinks that the server is down

[analog breach]

Tga is on 11.12.

I wonder how reruns will fit in that time frame

[grizzled apex]

ah looks like they changed something about the function I was hooking to get the game's requests. Doesn't seem to be filtering requests at least

More work to fix that now though 😅

[runic mesa]

HG: Bomber, we're busy, cut it out.

Lol

[grizzled apex]

getting (patiently) scolded by HG once was enough I think haha

[distant bronze]

Wonder if we might get a more in depth surprise update around the time of the redux in a few weeks. Would be strange but the lapse was unprecedented

[kind solar]

Hi, from where can I summon a ship in critical state to repair it?

[stark lake]

Hello

[hard summit]

Not sure if you can summon to space station with either launch thruster or pulse engine broken but I'm sure it'll spawn in your freighter

[tall current]

I just got teleported to nowhere when i visited the metallic world in the expedition

Is it a bug or feature?

[ebon spoke]

probably the black hole bug

[kind solar]

Thx for your response. It was a bug in my game. After a restart all was fixed and I was to be able to summon the ship

[safe quarry]

I am surprised that the new parts from the expedition are locked in black. Means we have to accomodate to the parts rather than the other way around. I get that it looks neat, but I'd like to be able to change both the hull color as well as the red highlights. I mean we can on the armor parts of the same style?

Its like the old saying with the model T ford. "You can have any color, so long as it's black."

Made worse by the fact we don't actually have a pure black option for the other pieces! Just slightly off colors.

[charred nebula]

Yeah, more color options for all parts would be great

[safe quarry]

I've seen a glitch to make a corvette use one of the other color palettes in the game, so the crazy thing is that it does already work in the back end!

I was also hoping we'd see them do something with the hab parts so we had more control over interior room shape/size, but I guess now we will have to wait for next year to get that.

[charred nebula]

Hopefully they will drop a corvette parts package with every upcoming update

[safe quarry]

I hope so too. This one feels like it's shoring up the kinds of parts requested by the community, but I hope they don't stop there. Plenty more the community is asking for with corvettes.

[charred nebula]

I expect smaller updates with corvette parts, followed by 10th anniversary update

For which I imagine they would add something more substantial

-# like living freighters

[fossil sentinel]

how can me and apollo are in same coordinates, but cant see each other?

[sour fossil]

It's a reference to the original game release

When 2 players managed to make their way to the same spot

And could not see each other

[fossil sentinel]

oh okay

[gloomy isle]

I feel like they'll be a staple reward category going forward

On a similar level to base parts if not more hopefully

[humble kayak]

Now that I think about it, and correct me if I might be wrong, but I wonder if the reason we're seeing fewer things left in the files (to datamine) is because Sean found out about the corvettes being leaked and wants to clamp down on surprises being spoiled

Though thats working off the idea that the datamined info isn't there intentionally and HG isn't just throwing us a bone every few updates

[ebon spoke]

No, this is pretty normal. We've just been lucky in getting stuff to datamine recently, the game having corvettes and all that Worlds Part II stuff early were outliers compared to the average update

[haughty glade]

Am I the only one disappointed that we didn't like

Get a ship at the end of our search for the Fireship Arcadia

Like I thought it was building up to getting a new starship/corvette

but it just kind of
ended?

[hot trout]

Fireship Arcadia probably looks like the corvette wrecks, and i dont think it would be easy to reward a premade corvette

[humble kayak]

Ok, thanks for clearing things up

[hot trout]

Also there was a story to it, but I dont think most players caught on to the full thing

[charred nebula]

A premade corvette also doesn't sound like a great expedition reward

That's like getting a generic ship, what would be the point of that if its not unique

[arctic bough]

I reconstructed it and it looks mid af

[cosmic anvil]

In the Expedition?? That's interesting, I'd like to hear it

Since I most likely wouldn't be able to complete it, given my university examinations this week

[hoary hound]

I want to travel to the center of the galaxy, will I go there if I follow the Artemis story path ? Yes / No ?

[fervent fern]

You won't exactly reach the center region, but you will go through the core -- it will count as a jump to the center. That's the gist of it

So... yes.

[hoary hound]

Thanks 🙏

[knotty basalt]

Gonna post this here just in case there's something spoilery, but WTF, Atlas.

[pale sapphire]

Atlas boutta start the death stranding

[hollow terrace]

I'm off

I'm lfg

I'm bad at nms I need help

[hot trout]

And @cosmic anvil so the thing I noticed was the logs are given to us out of order, and if you put them in order of the date, the story kinda changes because the order of events is different. Another thing is the jellyfish, which has a song that continues on and on, drawing you in, implying it is what lured the fireship Arcadia to the abandoned region we find it in.

Then theres stuff thats more implied due to previous storyline connections. Lots of people noticed the similarities to the cursed expedition as well as adrift, which can indicate some sort of connection. Breach being the title can also indicate that things from cursed are crossing over.

Admittedly, the second paragraph is more speculative, and I'm not entirely sure what greater lore implications this may have, but the presence of song, water, aquatic creatures, and a crew being lured to their doom suggests a connection to the abyss

I'd be more specific, but I keep forgetting to take screenshots of the log entries, lol

[cosmic anvil]

So the jellyfish are abyssal creatures??

[hot trout]

I was referring more to the spawn of arcadia

[cosmic anvil]

I see... @uncut harness let us know when you are okay with discussing spoiler content cause this seems interesting

[runic mesa]

PS4 is live now. Is the end date the same...?

[analog breach]

9 days left for me

[quick sundial]

I’m going to leave this here for y’all make up your own opinions of the Legitimacy of this post

[analog breach]

Is it expedition or rerun?

[quick sundial]

It says Exp 21 but who knows

[fervent fern]

A new one in november? The 5th in the year? I'd be very surprised.
Still think it's the redux, but well.

[quick sundial]

🤔 let’s say there is a new expedition coming and it runs for about 3 weeks. So Nov. 7 - 21. Then they do the reruns each for about 3 weeks.
so titan Nov. 22 - Dec. 12
Then Voyager Dec. 13 - Jan. 2
And Breach Jan. 3 - 23
Last the “New” expedition Jan.24 - Fed. 13 (lol)

[quick sundial]

Fifth? Didn’t they only do three this year?

I’m just talking about this year

Strictly

Yeah, I don’t think it’s a New expedition

Wouldn’t really fit the timeline or whatever

It’s probably just the reruns

Expeditions not updates

[fervent fern]

Titan, Relics, Corvette, and now Breach. There were four.
I didn't even think Breach would happen to be honest.

[quick sundial]

Oh yeah, I forgot about relics

Yeah, no it’s probably just reruns

[glass flare]

I could be misremembering but I don't think they've ever started reruns anywhere near early November

[analog breach]

Yes . We usualy got reruns in late November.

If exp 21 is a rerun it will be earlyest reruns that we got. There is some pot stiring going on from HG but we dont now the reason behind it.

[quick sundial]

See after I’m done with all the expeditions I don’t pay attention to the reruns. So I don’t know when they actually start and all that

You guys know more, yall think they can squeeze one more expedition in?

[fervent fern]

I'll be happy if it is a new expedition, by all means: I'm just finding it hard to believe 😅
I'd bet on a poutpourri of older expeditions before that, with some of the most popular rewards. But hey, I'll be glad to be wrong lol.

I have in mind that while HG has set some patterns, they have no problems in breaking them too. 😆

[grizzled apex]

Yep, Breach ends on the 6th of November, and the reduxes seem to be scheduled to start the next day now

[fervent fern]

Wa-wait, really? On the 7th?

[grizzled apex]

Can corroborate (as in the tweet). Cyberpunk's the guy who got the team together to RE HG's servers haha, so you can definitely trust em with serverside info too

[fervent fern]

So no exp. 21 as it was said, I guess

[runic mesa]

Adding a remix before the redux proper maybe?

[grizzled apex]

Yea I think it might've been mixed up in the tweet, but the only thing we can glean is that theres another expedition queued up ready to start on the 7th. Whether that's a new expedition or the start of the redux season isnt possible to know yet, but given the information in the files and community mission data it seems very likely to be the reruns

[fervent fern]

Hmm, I see, thank you!
...it would be wild if we saw an emoji next weekend though... lol.

[runic mesa]

The question is, if it's the redux, why shorten Breach and run it earlier?

[grizzled apex]

We know they changed their mind post release. Whether that's indicative if something else though, I'm not sure

[runic mesa]

Think we'll get an update for the redux, like usual?

[grizzled apex]

Probably a small patch or adjustments added alongside the next set of 6.1x patches. I don't think they did much pre-prep with Breach iirc

[fervent fern]

Well... if we can speculate a bit: the reruns were always crossing the New Year well into january... perhaps they want to change that.
Or something LNF-related.

[humble kayak]

excuse my vulgarity but if we got another expedition (and possibly a small update with it?) i'd shit bricks

I was never expecting an update past Voyagers until early 2026

let alone Breach

so it's gotta be a Redux

[grizzled apex]

Also, as mentioned in the replies to this tweet, HG changed the actual structure of the expedition slightly midway too. The new version includes some overrides for items sold at the space stations, so likely an attempt to make it easier to balance out the shortening?

[runic mesa]

((Copium)) Or give them extra time to sort out Switch 1. 😛

[humble kayak]

something LNF related

[grizzled apex]

If they're showing up at TGA this year, we might get another Starborn Phoenix style surprise?

[humble kayak]

wait. November seventh. I'll be in the woods hunting. If i'm away for LNF news I'm going to recreate the pedro pascal crying gif

chat let's hope it's only a redux

[grizzled apex]

Nintendo tweeted out that the update was out today for both NS1 and 2, but it probably doesn't mean much given how Worlds 1 was "out" according to Xbox way earlier than it released

[fervent fern]

I so wish they sorted that out before the reruns. 😕
At least make it clear what S1 will have moving forward.

[runic mesa]

I just want this false update crap to be over with. Forget corvettes, just update something.

[fervent fern]

Imagine that...
Dang it, it would make sense. I'm kinda expecting news from them there.

[humble kayak]

many people are

[quick sundial]

Oh, I can see that. Just like with the recent update they did

[humble kayak]

oh it's occuring to me we may not have bomberboi's wise insights when LNF is about to update

bomberboi you should start looking for an apprentice lmao

[grizzled apex]

I wonder if they'd do another NMS teaser leading up to a (potential) LNF trailer again?

[humble kayak]

another

there was a NMS teaser the first time?

[runic mesa]

Still 6.10. Literally just checked.

[fervent fern]

Wasn't LNF initially scheduled for this year? Or am I misremembering?

[grizzled apex]

Oh, I'm very interested in keeping this up for LNF haha

[humble kayak]

Sure but, and correct me if I'm wrong, will you still be able to access everything?

they're two seperate games, afterall

[grizzled apex]

Serverside it might be difficult based on what HG changed for NMS, but if they have a similar server structure it might not be too hard to access

[humble kayak]

K neo you're our man on the inside

[grizzled apex]

Both seem to use the Skyscraper engine, so datamining should function the same, unless they change the filesystem for LNF again.

And even if it isn't, I'm sure MonkeyMan can figure that part out 😛

[humble kayak]

oh now that i remember, on a side note

thank you for showing off the things you find in datamines on your twitter. I saw your tweet back in January(?) about the corvettes and that's what sent me down the rabbit hole

i learnt a lot

[runic mesa]

Bomber, can HG still activate the Titan and Relics reruns for Switch 1 through the ODS? Despite the Switch 1 still being in a frozen 5.75 state?

[grizzled apex]

Yep, I don't think they meant that a new update was out, but rather that they'd acknowledged that both their consoles have the update, which if viewed a certain way might be considered false marketing since NS1 got absolutely nothing from Breach

[grizzled apex]

Yep, the existing expedition files are still sitting on the servers so they could just swap the "active" expeditions to those. If we get a patch for the reruns, chances are HG will update NS1 with those changes to allow for a changed redux expedition file to be used by the console too

[runic mesa]

crosses fingers 😛

[grizzled apex]

They've done a fair bit of work to make reruns as patch-independent as possible, but some milestones for more "unique" expeds might still needs tweaks

[quick sundial]

Homie is a secret insider

[grizzled apex]

I just put out posts on my (frankly excessive) obsession with this game haha. I'm glad people enjoy the dives at least 😅

[runic mesa]

Was hoping for a remix this year, alas. Like Pioneers or Emergence. But they probably have a lot of their plate right now. With LNF, corvette bug fixing and the NS1 meltdown...

[runic mesa]

Wait, Nintendo tweeted about an NMS update? Since when do they do that?

[grizzled apex]

Here's the post for the breach:

https://x.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1983232295973552335?s=19

Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica)

The Breach update has landed in No Man's Sky. Explore spooky new systems, salvage the wreck of the Fireship Arcadia, and earn exclusive ship parts. Free for existing players on #NintendoSwitch2 and #NintendoSwitch.

👀 Watch the full trailer: https://t.co/yeVQaEBaPk

X · Oct 28, 2025, 6:00 PM

Seems like they did one for Beacons too

[runic mesa]

Pity I don't have Twitter/X anymore. Bet that comment section is fun right now. 😛

[deep mountain]

Ur joking me

First hello games advertises it on both consoles on the update page now Nintendo does it and switch still don't have nothing

[sick lotus]

which one of the atlas balls brings me to a harsh galaxy

found it

now to get onto repairing EVERYTHING

[native carbon]

This is a straight up lie

[safe quarry]

The fact that these communications don't exempt Switch 1, and these things are usually put in the pipeline well ahead of time, tells me at one point or another they were confident corvettes would be on switch 1 by now.

[runic mesa]

It failed Nintendo certification. They haven't confirmed it (because they never do), but it's pretty obvious that's what happened.

[wind panther]

So no real data, just "it's obvious that what I think is right because that's what is true"?

Anyway, what's this about confirmation that another expedition is starting after this one?

[analog breach]

#nms-spoilers message

This

Its numbered like its another expedition but we dont know if its new exp or just a rerun.

[runic mesa]

And you're bizarrely baiting me on this, why...?

There are multiple indications that point to Switch 1 being initially included in the corvette rollout, but something happened. For one, if corvettes were never in cards, we would likely have had another Beacons. I.e. The update including everything but the removed content.

But instead, we have NS1 frozen on 5.75 still with the version number just changed to the current one (this has been verified, btw). That is a strong indicator that there's something up.

Are we sure a failed Nintendo certification is the reason? Well, no. And yes, my use of the word obviously is an error on my part. We don't know.

But. It's a strong speculation based on what's happening. In the end, we'll see.

[wind panther]

Like anything with HG and NMS, we know nothing. To pretend to know something is folly. We can guess, but it should be couched in the language of guessing, not certainty

[wind panther]

Interesting, yeah, redux don't use the same numbering as normal expeditions

[thorny flower]

so i should just accept the fact that XB is not going to update to 6.12 anytime soon

[wind panther]

No, you should be patient

[thorny flower]

"good things come to those who wait" well time is about to run out aint it?

[wind panther]

No, no it's not

[thorny flower]

if it updated today i would apologize profusely

[wind panther]

My guess is within 26 hours, but it's just a guess

[grizzled apex]

Reduxes do technically increment the total number of expeditions (which is why expedition 20 is called season 39 internally in some places but not others), but they also usually include a remix number to see which expedition it's a remix of iirc

[wind panther]

Right, I meant that they wouldn't call a remix "21", but would use something like "40"

[runic mesa]

I mean, we had five expeditions last year. Whatever the next one is, a fifth new one does have a precedent.

But everything about the Voyagers/Breach rollout so far has been funky. So who knows.

[fervent fern]

Well, I guess we shall check for emojis this weekend lol.

[runic mesa]

2 shortened new expeditions in a row would be unprecedented though.

[wind panther]

A fifth does have precedent, but four is the norm

[runic mesa]

True

[wind panther]

But it's a very small sample size

[runic mesa]

It is interesting, tho.

[wind panther]

Yeah, even more interesting that it apparently wasn't the original plan

So why did they decide to shorten it and squeeze in another?

The original timing fit very well with 4/year plus redux

[runic mesa]

Right, that's what's getting me too.

[grizzled apex]

Oh yep, the tweet got a lil mixed up actually. Serverside, it shows the next expedition as 40, not 21. So it's in a limbo of knowing that there is an expedition queued up, but not being sure if it's new or a redux

[runic mesa]

(Hopium mode) A non corvette based expedition that the Switch 1 base can play would ease tensions there.

That's pure conjecture though. And not all at what I expect.

[grizzled apex]

Personally I feel like it is a redux just going off timing and the fact that one of the community missions (after the one that starts with season 40) has an ID of COMM_EXPED, which might be for the expedition 19 rerun?

[grizzled apex]

Yea update notes mentioned Breach running for 3 weeks, and the original start time of this new exped was ~ a week after breach ended too. Strange lil change

[wind panther]

Ah yeah, redux makes the most sense

If it says "40" and no other data, I would guess a redux

[fervent fern]

The shortening of Breach still intrigues me though

[runic mesa]

Paired with NS1 mysteriously getting all the community tier rewards unlocked for just them, yup.

[wind panther]

Switch 1 is a mystery. I don't think they "deserve" anything, but it's still odd

[grizzled apex]

I think it's an extreme case of HG's communication methods causing issues. With older delays there wasn't much reason to expect support to have been dropped for the delayed platform before. But NS1's nature just seems to make it more prone to that kind of speculation?

[runic mesa]

The fake update is really what's making this worse, from a Switch 1 player perspective. If Voyagers rolled out on NS1 with everything but the corvette content, this wouldn't be so bad. Disappointing, but understandable given the NS1's age and limitations.

But freezing nearly everything post 5.75 and not stating why? Yeah, that's going to cause ending support speculation and doomsaying.

Beacons was different. We didn't get the settlement updates, no. And NS1 veteran players weren't expecting them anyway. But we got everything else non-settlements. Like the Autophage building parts, etc.

(Doesn't help that people here keep claiming "Well, Switch 1 didn't get Beacons either", which is objectively false...)

[grizzled apex]

With the redux season coming up, I wonder if HG will drop 6.0/6.1 for NS1, make alternate expeditions for NS1 to still get the rewards, or just shut them off from the rewards entirely?

[analog breach]

It Depends from what they can push inside switch 1. If corvettes will be out of reach, maybe they will just unlock the rewards as recompensation

At least we know they are trying

[fervent fern]

First option would make a shorter Breach / earlier rerun season more understandable...

I mean, if they had something ready to go for S1 (finally), they'd want to roll out as soon as possible I guess.

Quite a stretch, I'm not counting on it, but well. 😅

[grizzled apex]

Sean reposted the Nintendo announcement. Could be something, could be (likely) nothing

[analog breach]

He is also suprised about the annoucement xd

[ebon spoke]

still interesting if reduxes are starting early this year. I doubt it's to make them longer, if that's the case there'd be pretty good chance that the Breach redux would end up longer than the original's shortened run lol

[safe quarry]

This adds credibility to the fact that one day they will have all expeditions open to re-run at any time, if they are trying to make them future proof. Probably some work still on certain expeditions, but on the whole sounds like it would be mostly feasible today, would just also mean way too much QA testing for every unrelated update.

Game awards is December the 11th. No way they would fit the entire redux start to finish before then, that was my only theory for why they might be rushing the reduxes early.

Could point to something after the game awards tho? if we do get a LNF update there, maybe a tie in event? Or something they want us to keep our calendars empty for?

[fervent fern]

Yesterday I was checking their presentation at TGA 2023 (LNF announcement), and indeed -- I didn't remember -- they teased the Orbital update there...

[safe quarry]

They did, and it would be neat if they did something in NMS as a teaser/lead in to LNF, even if its just some furry style head cosmetics or medieval cosmetics.

Whatever the reasoning, the fact they changed things around makes it fairly certain they're adjusting the timelines to line up with something so I don't think we've heard the last from HG for this year.

((Imagine if they did an early Beta of LNF for NMS owners to stress test the new server infrastructure >_>))

[grizzled apex]

Hm, 4 expeds running for 2 weeks each starting on the 7th would end 6 days before TGA

[safe quarry]

Oh did I get my timing wrong for when breach ends? In which case that makes TGA even more likely.

Now I imagine the reduxes were still running during the original 2023 LNF announcement, so there'd be no reason in truncating breach, Unless they wanted the NMS community with an empty calendar come TGA.

[grizzled apex]

They updated it to end on the 6th, with another expedition (likely reduxes) slated to start the next day

[safe quarry]

I'd say that this makes TGA news very likely, whether for NMS or LNF.

[grizzled apex]

if they do show up at TGA, I wonder if we'll get another Starborn Phoenix-esque gift?

[analog breach]

Im starting to think that exp 21 on nov 7 has connections to N7 day

Normandy and all that stuff ( mixtape rerun )

[safe quarry]

as a PC player i was not slighted, but I imagine maybe next time they shouldn't make their 'community support award' gift, exclude most of the community :p

[fervent fern]

...please Sean. (But also open more ship slots if you do that)

[grizzled apex]

For the second year in a row (iirc)?

[analog breach]

Why not?

[grizzled apex]

They've got a lot of previous expeditions people would love to replay again now (singularity, leviathan etc), so using up an extra slot on beachhead again feels kinda wasted imo

[analog breach]

Mixtape exp can have rewards from any expedition tho . It does not have to be specificaly beachhead exp .

[safe quarry]

I was quasi joking. but i now feel if they were going to do a beta run of LNF, they wouldn't tie it to preorders like most would as that wouldn't be in line with the reputation they've cultivated with NMS. They're more likely to do it for existing NMS players so they can maintain that 'we don't ask for money' attitude. (Plus then it also boosts NMS sales and preorders on LNF.)

The optics on it is much better as a 'for our dedicated fans' than as a 'for our fans who are willing to fork out the price of the game, sight unseen.'

[grizzled apex]

I wasnt thinking in terms of the rewards necessarily, but moreso the gameplay.

[safe quarry]

And for a game where multiplayer is at the heart of it, you want a dry run to make sure the actual launch day is as smooth as possible.

[fervent fern]

A quick side note on that, but if major NMS updates taught us anything... LNF initial version will be bugged. I hope players properly aligned their expectations, or we will see a bunch of "oh, this is NMS release all over again"

[analog breach]

I didint think about gameplay bc its always overall the same. Go to points A-B-C-D-E and do tasks along the way. Cursed was intresting enough imo to get a rerun with mixtape reawards.

[ebon spoke]

maybe, but they also have a lot more time to polish it

[safe quarry]

True! and more reason for a beta. Genuine testing, but also a way to kind of iron out as many of those bugs in a release that people will be more forgiving of, especially if it's 'free' for NMS players.

[analog breach]

Ooh i bet It will be bugged hard af 😂

[safe quarry]

Not every game needs a beta, but i think it would be a net positive for them to in LNF's case.

The community has been their advertising angle for ages, let the community promote your game through livestreams, youtube videos on the beta, and word of mouth.

[analog breach]

LNF is nominated for most wanted game at golden joysticks. That is all in terms of "aligning expectations" 😂 lnf is most viewd HG vid on yt. The hype train is rolling

[safe quarry]

The downside to this actually that makes it less likely, is who it would exclude. LNF is next gen, so everyone who owns NMS on Switch 2, ps4, xbox one etc would be excluded despite owning the game.

Ofc we don't actually now the specs for LNF either yet.

[fervent fern]

Oh boy. 😆
I mean, happy for them. And at least they got this habit of being quick on hotfixes

[analog breach]

State of the game does not mater imo as long as they will be honest, communicative with community and dont try to show something that is not in the game.

( Underwater bones gathering lol or bs in patchnotes " several km deep oceans" )

[ebon spoke]

still not sure if Sean's "gas giants are more than ten times the size of our largest planets" is actually true

[cosmic anvil]

no way they are going to do this rug-pull after everything that has happened. I think yeah players should temper expectations but going so far as to expect bugs on day 1 LNF release is unacceptable imo. People pay for a product and they should receive it as advertised.

[analog breach]

Its not. I think he said something more like " gas giants are 10x the size of biggest normal nms planet"

[grizzled apex]

They aren't I believe. One of the functions which sets the size of each terrain "chunk" per planet size only has the chunk size increase by ~ 2x for giants compared to the previous maximum for large planets, and 8x bigger than the smallest planets

There could be more factors for planet size of course, but the one that's the one I've toyed around with most and which seems to have the biggest impact on planet size, so that not being 10x any previous planet size feels like an exaggeration imo

[native carbon]

theres no way these are this small

[analog breach]

Gas giants are bit smaller than the moon

[ebon spoke]

well yeah, he obviously meant "our planets" as in the ones in the game

[analog breach]

Pepole often dont realise how big the earth is

[cosmic anvil]

if every NMS planet was the size of Earth, then there is no need for LNF

[native carbon]

true, but ngl i expected em to be tad bigger. have u seen how massive the amazon rainforest is?! and thats just like a.... 5% of the planet's surface if im not wrong

[analog breach]

U have nms planet radius in records. Compare with r of earth or moon.

Simple math

[cosmic anvil]

reminds me of a post where one person from Europe said, "can we hop on a short drive to Los Angeles before I leave?" (They were on the East coast)..

[ebon spoke]

The actual size of any given planet should be visible in memory. They are hardcoded too, there are set sizes for giant, large, medium, small and moon. Though I'm pretty sure gas giant moons are actually created by scaling one of the other planet sizes down instead of referencing those values directly

[analog breach]

Smallest planet is 14.2ku r biggest 142ku r
Gas giant is 570k? Ish ? Something around that.

[grizzled apex]

Yep, that's what the function returns. The hardcoded values for giants returned by that is ~2x bigger than the previous largest planet size

[ebon spoke]

ah makes sense.

[grizzled apex]

I'm not sure where the radius shown by the wonder catalogue is generated or if it's used for the actual planet gen. I'll take a look once I'm back in town

[ebon spoke]

There are these values here in environment globals that set the sky height to over 10x the large planet type:

but that feels like cheating, pretty sure the gas giant 'texture' is applied at the surface height, not the atmosphere height

[grizzled apex]

Gas giants atmospheres begin much higher than normal planets, don't they? I wonder if that's why it's set that high

[grizzled apex]

I think it's a good indication to not take HG patch notes / trailer notes / deep dive info at face value tbh, unless the gameplay matches their statements

[runic mesa]

I take any repost from Sean with a huge grain of salt. 😛 People read way too much into those.

[analog breach]

Yeah. Like 797F minimg truck size grain 😂

[humble kayak]

@grizzled apex I hate to ping you, but I've gotta ask.

I've heard of people not being able to access the LNF website recently and I'm just wondering if you have any way of knowing/checking if work's being done on it, or if these "outages" are just isolated issues

[grizzled apex]

Seems like part of Azure's down, wonder if that's the cause:

https://azure.status.microsoft/en-gb/status

[humble kayak]

I see. Thank you!

[hot trout]

This is why im so excited for lnf. I finally managed to find some lush giants and exploring them kinda gives something like a preview into what lnf will kinda look like

[analog breach]

I only fear that pepole will start racing to discover things to the lvl of exploits and cheating and after a month everything will be explored and found

[hot trout]

What? Nah

There's no way the entire planet would actually be explored

[grizzled apex]

Another interesting point about this is, if HG ever decide to add new biomes, generation or assets like they do with NMS, how would they do so? Regenerating unfrequented regions? Adding new dimensions? Portals to other worlds?

[humble kayak]

I mean,

you'd never be able to discover it all on your own

not manually

but IF hacking becomes an issue, HG could just make it so modified clients' discoveries aren't updated to the global registry

so the player will still see what they discovered, but we wouldn't

[analog breach]

Only thing that come to mind are world shifting events. Like in WOW with expansions

[humble kayak]

the only problem is how would you distinguish between a regular modder who wants to go about their day with a few tweaks, and someone maliciously exploiting

[grizzled apex]

Given how awful their existing server setup is for preventing bad actors spamming discoveries (which is why Iain Brown asked us nott o open source our server insights), I'm not very confident about LNF's serverside security

Their go to method for preventing abuse seems to be through obscurity

[humble kayak]

I'd hope they're wise enough to realize they should change their methods for LNF

[grizzled apex]

LNF has base building though, and given how much they've talked up "persistent buildings" and community building, I don't think they'd change the world quite drastically

[analog breach]

Can add new areas on map like continents.

[humble kayak]

sure, if you have room

but once you run out of room you can't add more continents without making the planet bigger

who knows how easy or hard that could be

[analog breach]

New realms maybe . Underworld , valhalla etc

[hot trout]

Theres ways to add new content without reshuffling worldgen

But I still feel like the entire map won't be discovered for a long time. The size is too large and even a huge player count would still be too few to discover everything

[analog breach]

Would be cool if LNF world had tectonic plates that slowly move and reshape the world gen

[humble kayak]

Sean, transformed into a tech priest of the Adeptus Mechanicus, proudly announcing the new continent introduced via tectonic plate movements 10^25 years from now:

i'm not a desert kind of guy, but i agree, combat needs to see a big improvement

you can skate past it with No Man's Sky because of the setting, but LNF being a high fantasy game pretty much has to have combat

[hot trout]

Actually nms has it if you use any weapon aside from neutron cannon, lol

[safe quarry]

I've always wondered about this one (and we've discussed it in the past!) The one thing we haven't considered (which is unlikely but not completely so) is they have said its one earth sized planet. Nowhere have they said we will be able to explore it all from launch.

They could hold back continents, some shroud or fog we push back, or relegate us to one continent of countries to start. This might actually even be better for the community to be more dense otherwise this idea of persistent communities would just get lost in the sheer scale of the map.

And also, at the risk of sounding like a flat earther! We are assuming because NMS has spherical planets, that LNF will have a spherical planet. It's a fantasy setting, they could very well have a literal edge of the earth that falls away into a void, and then expand out into that space with updates?

In fact there's no reason for LNF to need to simulate a spherical earth really, because we'll probably never have the elevated perspective to perceive it. The same way that Minecraft's world isn't spherical, but rather just loops you round to the other side of the map once you hit the edge?

((and yes because anyone who reads this will probably go mentally to the same place, i'm going to beat you to it:))

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/1920/cpsprodpb/7442/live/3b969700-2115-11f0-8c58-0f3e2186d95e.jpg

[ebon spoke]

It feels very unlikely to me that it wouldn't be spherical, just based on them reusing the NMS engine

[safe quarry]

True, and you know way more of the way NMS is coded than I ever will! I imagine tho the question will be whether committing to the spherical generation of NMS' is worth more than the futureproofing of having a world that can be expanded outwards?

I am sure its a question HG have probably asked and discussed, whether the gimmick of a genuinely spherical world outweighs reconsidering how the world is generated to make it scalable in the future.

NMS is easy, like with purple systems they can just add 'more', but without leaving some space open, the world we get at launch will always be. They could do different dimensions and all that kind of thing a la minecraft, but too much of that and you're undermining the 'one world' gimmick of LNF.

Plus, and this is purely a subjective thing! It kind of makes a reverse incentive to reaching the centre of the galaxy.

reaching the literal edge of the world and seeing waterfalls of entire oceans cascading over into a void, staring out at a literal end of the world. That's kind of a fantasy realised.

And its a very big fantasy trope. Even middle earth started out flat before a cataclysm made it a sphere!

Plus, just taking the fact that it's the NMS engine, they will still have to throw out a lot of the foundation that handles the spheres. No solar system, no space station, no point of origin in the system, no multiple celestial bodies to consider. All that would be superfluous code, and a spherical world might be thrown out with it?

[ebon spoke]

I don't think they ever planned to have new biomes added to NMS to the extent that they have, and I'm sure it's taught them a lot about the limitations of adding content post release. Maybe they'll do something like update the existing biomes to be more detailed? It is possible that they'll go a similar to route to NMS too, adding new biomes in a way that just replaces the set dressing without changing the underlying terrain or general type of environment (keeping deserts as deserts, forests as forests etc)

[safe quarry]

Yes that's also very possible!

[ebon spoke]

On the topic of the shape of the 'planet', I think it would be somewhat counter intuitive to not be a sphere, if it's flat then the center of the map becomes a really important place, the edges are remote and much harder to travel too. With a sphere, that isn't the case

[safe quarry]

I started thinking about it because before i was just like 'oh okay they could just add the new biomes to alternate dimensions.' but then i realised that no they couldn't. Because right now they usually add maybe 2-3 new biomes, or 4-6 new variations of an existing biome at a time. But if they wanted to add a new dimension, they'd have to add essentially a game's worth of biomes to make it feel like a worthwhile place. Otherwise it would be a monotonous alternate dimension of 1-2 biomes that would get boring minutes into visiting it.

[ebon spoke]

Yeah and they could easily end up with way too many alternate dimensions

sort of a similar issue to if NMS kept adding new stars like the purple ones

[safe quarry]

hehe ah but then you could ask yourself if that's an issue or a feature? It's almost the same way that the galaxy was supposed to get weirder the closer to the centre you got? I don't think its necessarily bad if the edges get progressively more difficult to reach. Plus then we can all start out at a centralised spot and spread out?

[safe quarry]

Exactly, I feel even if they don't intend to add any new biomes for a very very very very long time, they'll have learnt how to keep the door open from NMS to make it easier to implement them when they do.

[ebon spoke]

It would be pretty funny if 'go to the center of the map' became the marketing tagline like the galactic center was for NMS lol

[safe quarry]

And having a near infinite void around the world to expand out into feels like a good way to save yourself some headache later on.