nms-spoilers

[safe quarry]

thank @grizzled apex he saw the community research date.

[uncut harness]

Yeah when the side is actually loading

[native carbon]

Update tomorrow!!!

[uncut harness]

But i heard they updated it apparently

[safe quarry]

i didn't want to believe we had that long of a wait so i think copium made me look at every potential drop like the anniversary.

[uncut harness]

So maybe it can handle high traffic better now…

[safe quarry]

But right back at the start of the month, HG kind of subtly told us to hold tight.

[eternal girder]

new update will add copium as a stellar material found in planets orbiting a 6th star type trust

[uncut harness]

They did?

[safe quarry]

hehe they should do this.

[late edge]

@ebon spoke what do you think of the new desert and frozen planets now?

[safe quarry]

Well by setting the community research to end on the 27th

[eternal girder]

they shd make players drop copium like how sentinels drop pungeum

[safe quarry]

that hard date for the community research has been in the files for about a month.

[grizzled apex]

tbf, they don't expect anyone to see those 😅

[uncut harness]

Ah that, yeh true, you called this one early huh

[grizzled apex]

it is possible to view those in game if you mod one of the CM schedule files though

[safe quarry]

except for us peeps obsessive enough to check daily

to everyone else who waits for the update like a normal person hehe, they get the update when it drops :p

[uncut harness]

This is the last time i‘ll be following an update this closely i think

[safe quarry]

This ^ This was the moment i had the sinking feeling 💔

[uncut harness]

It is exhausting 😮‍💨

[ebon spoke]

I like the frozen ones, not the deserts. Deserts do have a really nice sandy terrain texture that's new, I made a simple mod a while back that removes all the foliage from them and they make really good Dune planets that way.

[uncut harness]

Still sad we didn‘t get massive dunes actually

[safe quarry]

I'm surprised they didn't do this themselves, like how you have paradise planets without trees sometimes.

Doesn't feel like much of a stretch to do the same for deserts.

[uncut harness]

Now I want some rip off of the huge Jawa vehicle in deserts, especially dune ones , if we pretend those exist

[late edge]

Theyre in their.

[safe quarry]

ooh good!

[uncut harness]

Blue sky deserts still the best though

[safe quarry]

It would be kind of neat to have perpetually hostile worlds

we have extreme worlds

[late edge]

Seem to be really rare though. I only found 1 or two of these 😅

[safe quarry]

but they're mostly a threat when a storm rolls in

imagine a world like dune where water and heat is severe all the time

[uncut harness]

And even then only in early game

[ebon spoke]

That's mountain terrain, which doesn't use the sand texture though. Sand planets are soo close to existing in the vanilla game

[safe quarry]

and it just constantly feels like a battle for shade

[uncut harness]

Sand planets kinda existed in 1.0, Kanaju had a screenshot of one that really looked like one

[safe quarry]

yes cue me filling my hazard protection every two seconds like its just a mild nuisance.

[late edge]

I prefer the sand texture now too. The one in atlas rises- now was this cracked rock

[glass flare]

i found one in Atlas Rises that had a real sand dune feel to it

[late edge]

Beautiful

[uncut harness]

Its weird tho, the old sand planets were often had fire flora

Like those which had actual dunes

[safe quarry]

having severe worlds that kind of act like the deep pressure of oceanic planets (meaning even an upgraded suit struggles) might make exocraft more viable?

[uncut harness]

Which i saw at least

[safe quarry]

Make it things your suit protection can't fight against. like on dune planets had sandstorms that would shed your skin!

so being in an exocraft is the only solution.

[uncut harness]

Yeah

[safe quarry]

there is a game i play like that, its the roleplaying one i said where peeps rp, and when u see the sandstorm coming, you RUN, if you're early game.

[native carbon]

Im still confused on what the wave hand means, like we are clueless, makes the update even more exciting

[uncut harness]

Quicksand, sarlacc pit akin monstrosities…all missed opportunities for sand planets

[safe quarry]

With no mask or building, you are basically done.

and it looks so imposing. makes me think it would be fun if storms we could see rolling in

rather than just appearing around us.

[late edge]

Wonder how hard those things are to add with the engine

[safe quarry]

Pfft quicksand is already a feature! think of all the times we fall through the terrain ❤️

[late edge]

Lmao true

[safe quarry]

storms being a blanket wall that comes at us and then the usual effect overlaid would be great.

[ebon spoke]

Worlds Part II deserts but without the flora, don't mind the seams in the terrain was a bug with tessellation that they patched after a couple days

[safe quarry]

altho what we have now is nice, especially seeing the clouds fill up the sky.

[late edge]

Thats a thing I noticed with newer planets. HG like to stuff them with pre-made props

[native carbon]

I need me some dune planets maaan

[safe quarry]

This is neat ❤️ and oddly a few of the early trailers dabbled with the idea of barren sandy planets

[uncut harness]

From Kanajus vid , no cactus flesh back then

[ebon spoke]

ahh yeah, the scorched terrain textures

kinda look like sand if they're the right colour

[safe quarry]

Avoiding them because they'd be 'boring and barren' doesn't make sense when we have vacuum planets already.

I wonder if they haven't done proper sand because without some kind of ground distortion it would feel odd?

[uncut harness]

Yeah this one too, the closes ive ever seen tbh

[safe quarry]

But since we have some wizards pulling off things like the waves and water reacting to things now, I don't see why some snow and sand ground distortion would be too hard on the engine?

Switch 1 might not make the cut, but older games have done this kind of thing reasonably well?

[glass flare]

i'm still just waiting for raindrops sliding down glass and beading up on the cockpit..

[safe quarry]

am i imagining that this used to be a thing? I probably am.

[late edge]

What vid

[safe quarry]

If they do all the first person updates I mentioned earlier, maybe visor stuff would be added too?

[flint hollow]

no like i remember that as well?

[glass flare]

has never been a thing in this game

[uncut harness]

Uhm was about the rarest things he ever found it think

[uncut harness]

Almost : https://youtu.be/PUVyFW5-n58?feature=shared

[safe quarry]

I don't doubt it, i just have it in my head, but i wonder if i just assumed.

If they did do an update that added diagetic stuff and first person animations for arms, it would pair well with them taking the atmospherics on planets even further.

having thick fog that cling in low valleys, causes beads of moisture to appear on your visor, really make the swampy planets feel humid.

[uncut harness]

I really want some proper mist…

[safe quarry]

and on desert planets, up the sunrays and intensity of the glare.

make looking at the sun almost inhibitive to your view.

[glass flare]

the other aspect is why they don't do any weather affects when inside a building. it's so jarring to step inside and see the rain disappear

[safe quarry]

stuff like that would bring back some of the 'survival' feeling of early NMS

[uncut harness]

Yeah, the localized hazards are kinda a failed attempt in my eyes

[safe quarry]

right now the player vocalisations feel like an afterthought, i wonder if there's more coming for them.

[uncut harness]

Even though the electric one is good for screenshots

[safe quarry]

for the longest time the feminine vocalisations didn't even work

and now that they do, they are barely audible. to the point they might as well not be there.

Like atm the panting only starts when you're out of stamina

what if it started off quiet and got louder as you started to run out of stamina

and then heavy breathing when you run out

rather than silent until out of breath like my character has great cardio.

[ebon spoke]

Most storms need a lot of work. Right now all the storm types do the same grey clouds that really only belong with rain. On deserts you should get an intense, sand coloured distance fog, extreme snow planets should have white out conditions when it storms and so on.

[safe quarry]

And this would pair amazingly well with a first person animation update i feel. Could be an 'immersion' focused update.

[safe quarry]

like i said, on the game i play, the sandstorm is a literal wall of sand you see sweeping across the map.

like it is terrifying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwzBB9IK0UQ

If anyone wants to see what the outside of HG's office looks like.

(I think secretly he buzzed hoping they will one day bring him up to the studio proper.)

[late edge]

Captain steve is a good guy, sometimes I think he complains a bit too much tho lol

[safe quarry]

I think he milks NMS a bit too much when it comes to content, but he's definitely a lot more well intentioned than Professor Cynical.

I feel Captain Steve does care about the game, but wants to make money off his passion. Professor Cynical meanwhile is solely about the money, and he would burn down the community if he was paid to do so.

The fact Captain Steve got approached by HG's marketing agency to do ad content and PC wasn't, says what HG think of their contributions to the community.

I'm going to keep convincing myself that the update tomorrow is anything but the corvettes, and be excited for it on its own terms ❤️

And tomorrow Sean will finally confirm my long standing theory that the hand in the LNF trailer is the void mother, and its going to be a thematic tie in to LNF :p

[gloomy isle]

I've always wondered what the void mother could actually be trying to do to save the simulation/ her children. The only plausible answer I've thought up is that she could make another simulation

Since it seems like time works similar to in irl dreams

[safe quarry]

... a fantasy simulation

[late edge]

Question, was the simulation thing in the original vanilla release? Implied or otherwise. Or, was it a post launch disaster retcon?

[safe quarry]

inception, so time dilation would be slower in the simulation within a simulation

[misty pollen]

A final fantasy 😛

[gloomy isle]

Could it be that by adding a new layer and escaping into that, she's essentially outrunning the end? Even if it's not permanent

[safe quarry]

That's a good question @grizzled apex ?

[safe quarry]

Nuh! one lacking fire. :p

because no one wants to light it

[misty pollen]

Interplanetary blitzball though 😂

[safe quarry]

pfft you can already make that with the sphere in NMS hehe

[safe quarry]

it definitely wasn't outright stated, but i don't remember if hints like 'hello world' were in before atlas rises?

[gloomy isle]

I think it gets revealed in the Atlas path iirc

Since we knew about it being a simulation in the lead up to WT

That's how people made the connection iirc

[ebon spoke]

The original release has Nada's study of star charts eventually get replaced with them studying lines of code as you progress through the "story". That may have not been the case before the day one patch, though, since iirc that did overhaul the lore and writing.

[icy citrus]

Simulation has been since day 1

[analog breach]

Joan did full HG guildford street build

[safe quarry]

ooooh

that's quite funny and a bit inceptiony.

No Man's Sky: Convergence?

(if i put enough guesses out there, eventually I will be right.)

No Man's Sky: Unity
No Man's Sky: Unite?

[late edge]

Oh man seeing someone go to their office brings back memories of people in 2016 trying to get photos of their old one to see if it was abandoned

[zenith perch]

They'd probably not let anyone show that off and have them sign NDAs if they were let in.

[zenith perch]

Taking control maybe

[zenith perch]

Arrival/Arrivals, Contact, Signal/Signals

[safe quarry]

Arrival feels like the most common one, so I'm trying to go unique with it ^.^

I like contact as one

[gloomy isle]

Both great films too 😂

[safe quarry]

That feels feasible with the hand wave too

[gloomy isle]

Might be a stretch but spectrum? (EM waves)

[safe quarry]

Don't tell @cosmic anvil , he'll go watch contact too! hehe.

[safe quarry]

oooooh

not too wild. I kept going to sinewave, but spectrum is better.

I definitely feel more than ever that Sean is deliberately trolling with his emoji choice, he would know that the community would jump to a goodbye emoji

[icy citrus]

👋

[safe quarry]

See this would prove my theory from all along

[icy citrus]

That cracks me up tbh

I think it's Sean trolling

[safe quarry]

that the hand was the LNF one! I will die on that hill!!!

Void mother is the reason LNF exists.

[icy citrus]

No thank you

[safe quarry]

its true! I confirmed it, i spoke to Sean's mother at pilates

[icy citrus]

I hope the only ties are the ones we are making in our heads

[safe quarry]

I think they will do very subtle nods in each

[icy citrus]

Easter eggs and such are cool

[safe quarry]

kind of 'its there if you want to make connections.'

mhm

Like maybe the LNF universe's lore is that its all the dream of a sleeping goddess.

[icy citrus]

I just don't want to reach the end and it go, oh thanks for creating the Atlas, or surprise it was another sim by the Atlas

[safe quarry]

Yes I think they should keep the fantasy and sci fi themes separate

but they could use parallels in the storytelling

[icy citrus]

Sure

[safe quarry]

a dream rather than a simulation.

I know bomberboi wants lots of juicy lore, but i do hope they go the echoes and WP2 route with it

the new content be the focus, and the lore be the wrapper.

[gloomy isle]

I have a feeling that the conclusion we're all wanting will be next year's summer update

With it being the 10 year anniversary

[safe quarry]

I think so too, especially as its all clearly a lead up to the LNF release and has been building up the narrative to LNF's release 👀 @icy citrus

I don't think this is the corvette update, but lets suppose it is. I hope they're not gated behind too much busywork to get to.

[grizzled apex]

ooo interesting

[safe quarry]

or at the very least the trailer be quite clear in how they function so we're not disappointed.

[grizzled apex]

Expedition 19 now has a start date <t:1756306800>

[safe quarry]

Well be excited, that probably confirms the expedition's lore is fundamental to the update.

[native carbon]

@icy citrus that basically confirms my win muHahahahaHA

[late edge]

Or it's only an expedition 😅

[icy citrus]

It doesn't

[native carbon]

L doubter

[icy citrus]

It confirms current start time of an expedition

[safe quarry]

Heresy!

[icy citrus]

The confirmation of your win will be the release of the update

That's how it works

[gloomy isle]

I don't envy the mods here if it is only an expedition 😂😂

[grizzled apex]

Things could change (they've pushed the timing around by a few hours before), but yes

[native carbon]

I know bbbut the chances are higher then 90%

[icy citrus]

Much higher

But not a certainty until it is

[native carbon]

Wait, dont expeditions usually start 3 hours sooner then the set up date?

2*

Not 3

[gloomy isle]

With port updates, expeditions have historically started a bit later right? Or am I completely misremembering lol

[grizzled apex]

yea thats what caught my eye

this is quite a late start

[safe quarry]

An accompanying expedition does put down my diagetic update theory. but not completely.

[grizzled apex]

Iirc updatees drop ~12am-1pm UK time, and expeditions usually start an hour after that or immediately. This start is at ~ 3pm UK time

[icy citrus]

No Man's Sky Voyage: Boats, with a boat expedition

[native carbon]

If expedition starts nearly at the same time the update drops makes me think the update is smoll

Idc about the size, i want em to fix de game

[gloomy isle]

That's usually what we see with larger content updates that include an expedition on the side iirc?

[icy citrus]

Well an update won't do that

It will break more things first

[gloomy isle]

^

[native carbon]

Ye but it also fixes, i doubt they just gonna leave the underwater rendering issue like that, makes the game look like vomit

[grizzled apex]

No, larger updates w/ accompanying expeditions (think WP1 / WP2 with Titan and Liquidators) usually have their expeds start a few weeks after the update drop

[native carbon]

Opposite

[icy citrus]

Not seeing it on my end

[safe quarry]

This is why i think the expedition is actually a fundamental part of the content

[native carbon]

Gleam you are such a doubter recently, think positive!

[safe quarry]

Like I don't think it's just a 'tutorial' for content.

[icy citrus]

Wasn't doubting, I was referring to your rendering issue

[native carbon]

They better fix it

If not then

[icy citrus]

Did you report, or just send another toilet suggestion?

[native carbon]

Both

[grizzled apex]

probably thematically tied to the update's content it seems

[icy citrus]

Def not getting fixed then

[native carbon]

[icy citrus]

Boats

[grizzled apex]

Well anywho, the start time just confirms i'll have to download it flying halfway across the world now haha 😅

Hope 40,000ft has good reception

[safe quarry]

This is desperately needed, how are we supposed to travel across these giant planets if not for tug boats?

[icy citrus]

No Man's Sky: Salutations, we get pigs and spiders and a farm

[gloomy isle]

Aah okay. Makes me think it might be more of an endurance sized thing then (still big but focused and not quite the scale of stuff like worlds)

[safe quarry]

Will you be able to play it on the other side?

or will you have to look on wishfully as we all play?

[native carbon]

😭

[grizzled apex]

I'm torn now between a VM update or something I hadn't expected at all. A thematically tied exped would work well w/ a VM update, but I dunno how "big" HG would make something like that

[grizzled apex]

Hopefully! I have a few days free there and my rig is portable, so it shouldn't be an issue

[safe quarry]

I think the lack of 'echoes' style name drop fanfare hints at something smaller.

They had the anniversary sitting right there for something like that.

[misty pollen]

What's all this talk about "corvettes"? Am I playing Eve again? 😭

[gloomy isle]

The simultaneous expedition is making me think it might not be story related, and that it's more of a feature overhaul/ new feature

[grizzled apex]

Thats kinda what makes me think this might be the Singularity for an upcoming Echoes style drop? Like a prelude to something bigger (if it is related to the VM in any way)

[misty egret]

I really want it to be about pirate ships

[icy citrus]

Ship class, common across many space games

[misty egret]

Or underwater sentinels

[icy citrus]

Irl ship class as well

[safe quarry]

😢 don't say that! I need content ;-;

[safe quarry]

And something that's been datamined in the files.

[misty pollen]

blinks slowly, dusts off spreadsheets

[lime birch]

Image Sean add real base building pools instead of building a custom pool only in the water place 😄

[safe quarry]

hehe think more multicrew multiplayer ships.

[gloomy isle]

I do think corvettes would be the perfect feature for a medium sized update like we might be seeing

Though I don't see how the emoji could ever be indicating them 😂😂

[icy citrus]

Baby steps

We can actually build something with water now

[grizzled apex]

Looks like the optional milestone CM thing might be happening, since CM 105's reported to start at <t:1756306800> and end at <t:1759935600>

same 2 month window as an expedition usually has

[icy citrus]

Oh good, FF loves those

[safe quarry]

Maybe the stone golem parts will finally be available for our mechs?

as a community unlocked reward

[gloomy isle]

I do think it's safe to assume worlds part 2 was our yearly huge update

But I'd be surprised if this isn't significant too

[misty pollen]

That sounds absolutely bonkers I love it.

The corvettes in Eve Online are just tiny free ships, basically it's your Scooty Puff Jr for when you want to fly something quick but fairly useless.

[safe quarry]

Nothing confirmed tho, just speculation based off datamining.

Some 'ship base' files, some experiments of base parts tied to ships, and then some texture files labelled as 'corvette'. So leap of logic is they are all tied together.

So fingers crossed that one day we'll have a flyable ship with an interior we can build. and hopefully also let our friends ride in as we fly it.

[gloomy isle]

Okay looking at past expedition start times, I'm definitely leaning towards it being smaller

[sour fossil]

Does that mean I be angry about it already?

[icy citrus]

Probably

[late edge]

How small?

[gloomy isle]

Imo probably something close to outlaws, orbital etc

[runic mesa]

Still hanging to my guess of only 3 expeditions this year + possibly another remix in holiday redux. October is very late for a fourth expedition to debut before the redux.

[late tusk]

Wait what happend

[grizzled apex]

Huh, the expected changelist number also went up from 150227 to 150804. Hopefully that means either a lot of testing happened beforehand, or there's alot of unique assets etc

[safe quarry]

is that quite a big jump?

[grizzled apex]

its the second largest jump I have on record rn, after Beacon

[safe quarry]

I mean I was excited there until you said beacon hehe

[grizzled apex]

Going off Martin's tweet, the changelist correlates to how many changes have happened since the last version, so kinda like how many PRs happened since the last build. He talked about it encompassing anything from bug fixes to art to content so, who knows

It could pretty large because either be massive amounts of new assets for a feature, or just as large because it took them 30 different PRs to fix a bug 🤷

[runic mesa]

Moar bug fixes, plz. 😛

[safe quarry]

I'm leaning towards bug fixes since i suspect the expedition being live since the beginning of the month likely means most of the actual work on content was done.

[gloomy isle]

Starting to think it might actually be corvettes (but mostly just them). The emoji doesn't line up at all but yeah

[safe quarry]

Which is still good, because a lot of bug fixes means they're being thorough, but also potentially what it adds is new and unique enough that it warrants a lot of thorough testing

[gloomy isle]

Not going to be disappointed if it's not them but I'm just feeling it lol

[safe quarry]

as in more than just reskinned content or new decor. Maybe something mechanically unique?

[safe quarry]

This is it. The thorough bug testing says yes, the emoji says no.

[icy citrus]

Boats

[runic mesa]

Emoji could just be the expedition name.

[icy citrus]

Voyage

[runic mesa]

No Man's Sky: Voyager? 😛

[safe quarry]

How about boats that fly into space and can carry multiple people?

[grizzled apex]

This would've fit so perfectly if we didnt have a voyagers expedition already actually 😅

[icy citrus]

Shhhh

[gloomy isle]

Size wise it lines up with the expedition start date too. I guess it would be roughly similar to orbital in that it's not all that many additions but pretty impactful

[safe quarry]

Voyage was one of my theories. But it fell flat. Then again at this point i've probably exhausted every title (except probably the real one.)

[runic mesa]

Voyagers exped was eh though. Let's have a do over. 😛

Arrival is still my guess

[safe quarry]

Thing is i'm guessing a title but we actually have two to guess.

[icy citrus]

It's never going to be Voyage, because of Voyagers, but it fits the boat joke, so I'm rolling with it

[safe quarry]

I mean the living ships could do with being aquatic...

Would it be useful? nope.

Would I still dive underwater? yep!

WP2 patch page teased us with that and it lied to us

[late edge]

?

[safe quarry]

Clearly whoever makes the videos for the patch pages came in a little too hot in the wraith ship and went underwater briefly.

and thought it made for a neat gif

[late edge]

Ohhh

[icy citrus]

No Man's Sky: Arrival
With the return of purple systems Travellers around the galaxy are discovering they aren't as uninhabited as first thought. Travel deep into the depths to find and connect with the Naeda, a long forgotten race of aquatic beings

[gloomy isle]

Maybe it's as simple as waves - > ship - > corvette

It's tenuous though lol

[safe quarry]

I lowkey love this.

[runic mesa]

Me too

[safe quarry]

wave for hello. five fingers up for the fifth race.

[icy citrus]

😏

[gloomy isle]

That could be cool

[safe quarry]

(four fingers and a thumb, but lets not be pedantic.)

[gloomy isle]

I don't want to get my hopes up for something like that though 😂😂

[safe quarry]

Gek can be the thumb.

[runic mesa]

I still want more guilds tho

[safe quarry]

and they will be a really pretty aquatic race, already teased:

[gloomy isle]

Deep sea civilisations that use the settlement generation system and have autophage style quests/ gameplay/ unlocks would be really neat ngl

[safe quarry]

Giant domes we can place underwater to use the traditional ground building parts as an alternative to the unwater base parts.

[icy citrus]

Already have a ship to vibe from also, the Wraith

[safe quarry]

hehe yup! That's why i said that WP2 gif teased us when it submerged for a second

I joke, and i'd written off wave meaning anything to do with oceans...

but there's has been quite an aquatic subtheme going on for a while now...

[gloomy isle]

NMS beneath the waves

[safe quarry]

the wraith, the aquatic vibes of the cursed (though that was supposed to be the space between reality they came from?)

[icy citrus]

Confirmed, we getting mermaids

[safe quarry]

side note: oceanic worlds really could do with some biome variety.

[ebon spoke]

Sort of like how the unused 'npc base' (which uses settlement generation tech) has an underwater version. Did I ever post those here?

[icy citrus]

I've seen them, but I don't think here

[safe quarry]

YOU DID NOT!

[gloomy isle]

I think you did yeah, the assortments of linked up base parts?

[gloomy isle]

POIs too

[safe quarry]

NMS could do with some refreshed POI's full stop

underwater or otherwise

[gloomy isle]

Okay in this context I wouldn't mind yet another water update 😂😂

[safe quarry]

i don't remember the last time i used an observatory

[icy citrus]

I remember mine

AR

[safe quarry]

well there you go!

They either need flushing out of the game and replaced, or given new functionality.

Same for factories

The space anomaly has everything you could get from a factory now

[ebon spoke]

Underwater procedural NPC Bases (I couldn't be bothered to actually put them underwater). These were added back in Frontiers and haven't been touched so probably a shelved feature or an early test for what eventually became settlements. There's a not underwater version too, looks about how you'd expect

[safe quarry]

ah oki. maybe just shows they originally toyed with the buildings being completely procedural

before going with the prefabs.

[ebon spoke]

well, settlement buildings are pretty procedural

probably more complex than these

[icy citrus]

Would love NPC bases to have a procedural type like these

[safe quarry]

really? I always thought they were samey? I guess its hard to tell unless you have them side by side.

[icy citrus]

Shelter class

[safe quarry]

I'd like more settlements that are there to be visited rather than owned, yush.

A lone bar to land and get a drink, a fuelling station for our ships pulse drive...

[gloomy isle]

I do think it'll likely be a very focused update. Imo either mostly some sort of VM related gameplay feature or corvettes

[safe quarry]

I do regret looking at all these starfield videos after mentioning the game before. It makes me pine after corvettes as a ship we can actually land on planets with.

I would absolutely make a little cosy camper van.

I might have to play this starfield game if this update isn't corvettes

[icy citrus]

If we get corvettes and the build space is sufficient, I will achieve my primary goal of true space wanderer

Freighters are awesome, but hardly something for the lone Traveller

[gloomy isle]

Yeah I find them not every immersive or homely

And there's a level of inconvenience going to and from the hangar to use the scanners etc

[safe quarry]

YES! I want this. I want to go back to the nomadic feeling of NMS

But have a base i can take with me. Freighters feel like a halfway point.

But a corvette could be a base we can literally plant down in the pretty scenery of a beautiful planet

[icy citrus]

Space Winnebago

Time to jam someone

[safe quarry]

No need to build a whole new base by the ocean. Just pop your ship down on the coast.

[gloomy isle]

Hopefully they'd use a similar system to ships and shipbuilding for the exteriors

[safe quarry]

The biggest problem still would be how on earth it would land.

[icy citrus]

Just not at pads

[safe quarry]

yush but remember how annoying it can be to find a landing spot sometimes for a small ship

[icy citrus]

I do indeed

[safe quarry]

now multiply that for a big one!

[icy citrus]

Maybe that's what the interior bay is for

[gloomy isle]

I'm torn between them not landing, and the hangars being so you can party up and switch to your ship

[icy citrus]

In atmo hovering, drop out with ship

[safe quarry]

the hovering is what I would do if i was trying work that problem

and either drop ships or like a star trek teleporter to the planet surface

[icy citrus]

Mech drop

Any Exocraft really

[safe quarry]

big tractor beam up to the ship like a ufo that you could walk into to get zapped back up.

[native carbon]

Throwing hands = throwing cheeks update

[icy citrus]

Nice

[gloomy isle]

A mech launcher would be an amazing piece of tech for them 😂😂

[safe quarry]

If they let us build exocraft bays on it! They spoil our fun by making it that we can't do this with out freighters without glitching them on.

[native carbon]

Tomorrow will be a spectacular day

[gloomy isle]

I've always liked the idea of freighters or something similar being able to deploy tactical stuff (kind of like stratagems from helldivers I guess)

Environmental shields, large refiners, stuff like that

[safe quarry]

If corvettes are multi-crew, i'm going to give each of my friends a 1x2 room space, and we will live out our serenity fantasy as a reality.

[icy citrus]

If they are multi crew, I will have lots of room

[safe quarry]

mess hall, captains quarters, all sorts of snuggly spaces.

I have not played that star wards outlaws, but i did see the ship interior in my 'what games have explorable ship interior' wanderings, and it has the cosy vibes i'd go for.

[icy citrus]

It's nice, the drawback with that one is that you can't wander it freely while in space flight

[ebon spoke]

Man, I remember when they first added frigates, the trading one looks vaguely like the Bebop from Cowboy Bebop and I wanted to be able to use one as my main base so bad

[safe quarry]

noooo! ;-;

[gloomy isle]

Hopefully they make them more interactive someday

[safe quarry]

if corvettes are real. i hope we can get up off our seat at any time and just 'park it' in midair.

imagine doing that in an asteroid field

(if it has buildable gangways)

[molten karma]

Whelp I'll probably checkout after catching up on reads this seems small. See you in 2 or 3 months? Maybe 6 months?

[safe quarry]

We have no impressions on how big it is?

At the very least according to @grizzled apex the changelist is big.

[gloomy isle]

This is just all speculation rn

[safe quarry]

or sorry the change... bomberboi help me out 🤣

number go up

means update, many changes, even if patches.

[molten karma]

The fact the expedition is launching on the day of the update indicates it's probably not that significant. Unless they break the pattern. Bomberboi also said the second biggest was Beacons which is not hopeful at all.

[grizzled apex]

The changelist number is the second largest of the year next to beacon. This could mean anything, from massive features that took a lot of code pushes, to some abhorrent bug taking 30 PRs or something to fix.

All that shows is that HG worked on this quite intensely

[safe quarry]

I think there are little updates that would have a big impact. As much as i'd want them to add stuff alongside corvettes. if they just gave us corvettes on their own, that would reinvent the way we engage with the game.

[gloomy isle]

Orbital is probably a good example ngl

It wasn't massive but the features it added were very impactful

[safe quarry]

Means its more than just a few quests and new pretty looking things.

As much as beacons and frontiers were underwhelming (to me) i appreciate that from a programming standpoint they were probably a big job

[molten karma]

Personally I really liked Sentinel/Outlaws. I did like Orbital but I wished they didn't get rid of the old stations entirely. I wish they mixed matched them tbh.

[safe quarry]

Because its basically bringing a whole new mechanic to the game.

[icy citrus]

They haven't gotten rid of any stations yet

Still have launch stations

[molten karma]

They got rid of the ones we've had since NEXT.

[icy citrus]

They didn't, the Outlaws use them

[safe quarry]

I am not sad to see those go though. The two wings always felt a bit tagged on.

[grizzled apex]

Probably, the cursed and adrift, both fairly mechanically unique expeditions, had a smaller changelist number jumps than this (although those were exped-only drops too)

[safe quarry]

he's right, outlaws doesn't use the next stations

the ones with the two wings off the landing pad are fully gone. But i'm okay with that

[icy citrus]

You mean interiors

[icy citrus]

Launch stations have the two wings

[safe quarry]

they always felt like they just threw stuff either side. new ones feel like station interiors

[icy citrus]

The abandoned ones

[safe quarry]

oh they have the doors and the little room/annexes yes

but not the ones where they're open to the landing pads

[gloomy isle]

My two main bets rn are corvettes or underwater POIs w/ VM lore

[safe quarry]

at least not that i've ever seen.

they have the launch ones, only broken down

with the two small rooms and the atlas pass rooms

then you had the ones with the two wings with the balcony overlooking the landing pads

those i think are 'gone' in terms of the live game

[ebon spoke]

Expedition right away, 'wave' emoji... I don't want it to be the case, but I have a sneaking suspicion this might be an expedition focused on underwater stuff. Worlds Part II's Titan expedition didn't cover the ocean worlds that much despite the fact that they were one of the biggest features of the update. There might be content to go with it or they might just be pushing an expedition out the door so they have enough for reduxes.

[safe quarry]

(though i think they're still in the files. just surpressed)

[grizzled apex]

It'd be cool if abandoned stations could spawn as either of the two variants

[icy citrus]

I was just talking the exterior looks, the interiors have a few changes that aren't in

[safe quarry]

it would actually

[safe quarry]

oh yes ❤️ externally we've lost nothing 🙂

[safe quarry]

I think considering the time between updates, this will cause anarchy on the streets! Not saying you're wrong, just... i don't see that going down well hehe

I still think the expedition right away just means the expedition content is intrinsic to the update as a whole

like its a big piece of narrative

[gloomy isle]

Yeah judging by the amount of changes and time, I don't see it being primarily an expedition imo

[grizzled apex]

I do think we'll see some content with the expedition, but I do think both the exped and the update will be very thematically tied, similar to aquarius / relics, but maybe on a much bigger scale

[safe quarry]

or... dare i say professory cynical and his 'source' were right?

[molten karma]

Yeah I'm already disappointed in thinking of a expedition only update or that being the main content tbh...

[gloomy isle]

What was he saying?

[safe quarry]

I think this too

i almost see echoes and singularity boxed into one

[safe quarry]

oh that it would be 'a new game mode, and a new way to play expeditions starting with this next one.'

[icy citrus]

I don't think they are getting content creators to hype NMS to just drop an expedition

[ebon spoke]

Only thing is I don't see why that would take so much development time. An expedition like that could have easily been included with Beacon, which would have padded out the update and given Switch 1 and players who don't care about settlements something to do

[safe quarry]

but he's also changed his tune like 5 times now

so I wouldn't take that as anything other than needy attention seeking.

[safe quarry]

Unless the expedition leans heavily on something from this update to work?

[ebon spoke]

They've done the same paid promotion thing a few times, not even leading up to an update

[molten karma]

I do think before NMS has its last update in the next 10 years I'm sure they'll make expeditions replayable at some point.

[safe quarry]

like its corvettes :p

[icy citrus]

Sure, but this one is tied to an update time

[molten karma]

I think its more so the timing and the fact there's paid promotions like why now when everyone is expecting a big summer update.. Adding fuel to that fire would be nonsense but who knows. HG operate in weird ways.

[grizzled apex]

This, it's not a pattern hinting towards a big drop.

Although, according to CS, this specific campaign had an end time of 27th Aug (mentioned again in his latest video), so it does look like they want all eyes on the update

[safe quarry]

I am surprised with an update imminent they didn't just wait to do the paid promotion and get them to advertise the new update?

But the argument there could be 'there going to make content anyway, why pay them for what they will already do?'

[icy citrus]

We will know soon!

[grizzled apex]

~28 hours left at most!

[gloomy isle]

I don't think there's any way it's mainly an expedition, given the change number and the amount of time that's passed. Unless it's an expedition plus overall health update for the game

[grizzled apex]

It's fun being this much in the dark at times.

[safe quarry]

The business brain in me says, (and this is all speculation!) the language and content around NMS has been a bit middling post beacons, maybe they'd want better optics before a drop?

[late tusk]

faction war update 🙏

[icy citrus]

How do we relate that to the emoji?

Waving goodbye to peace?

[late tusk]

arrival

[icy citrus]

But they are here

[late tusk]

first spawn could come from a separate reality

[icy citrus]

Oh yuck

[late tusk]

man im just speculating

[icy citrus]

Hope we don't do World War 2 space version

[late tusk]

[safe quarry]

just putting it out there again... corvette wave is a thing!!!!

[icy citrus]

Lol

[late tusk]

what ever it is

i hope its not more stuff locked behind exp- wait ill just save edit it anyway!

[gloomy isle]

Arrival of those entities from between the world of glass and the regular simulation maybe? The ones the cursed head customisation is based off

[icy citrus]

What if the emoji is more like Fractal

[safe quarry]

omg there's even an article on how to do the corvette wave correctly. Is this really that big of a deal for corvette owners?

[safe quarry]

how so?

[icy citrus]

Not obvious

[safe quarry]

oh yes, this is why my diagetic theory.

[icy citrus]

That was the fractal emoji

Ish

[gloomy isle]

Oh wow I think you're right! Apparently it's a bit of a tradition for owners lol

[grizzled apex]

The snowflake was connected to fractals since a snowflake is usually a fractal

[safe quarry]

which would actually be something i'd want, and something reasonably that would come off the back of LNF development.

[gloomy isle]

https://texas-corvette-association.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=545376&module_id=291150

"When a new Corvette driver takes his/her car out for a drive, they may be initially perplexed about why all the other Corvette drivers are waving at them. This grand tradition is referred to within the Corvette family as "THE WAVE". Ever since Corvette No. 01 first met Corvette No. 02 on the road, their drivers saluted each other with waves."

Holy shit lmao

I think you might have got it

[icy citrus]

Corvettes stole the wave from motorcyclists

[safe quarry]

hehe, the only thing is I doubt Sean knows anything about it. and also if it was true, i doubt most of the community knows about it.

[icy citrus]

Just saying

[safe quarry]

so people would just be like: what on earth is a wave emoji to do with corvettes?

[gloomy isle]

That's true tbf

[safe quarry]

But also if i was Sean, rn i would absolutely go bonkers with the emoji to encourage some wild speculation.

[gloomy isle]

Maybe the expedition could be based on a corvette owners club lol

[safe quarry]

"a car emoji? no too obvious.... a boat? no singular gleam will think its boats... hey the corvette owners wave to each other.... the community will think we are closing shop on development, i love it!" -Sean 2025.

[gloomy isle]

It's the sort of dad joke type duh moment that's pretty on brand for his picks 😂

[safe quarry]

That's true hehe.

[icy citrus]

Wave = Hand = Holding = Cheeseburgers

FINALLY

[gloomy isle]

This but a spaceship with a Gek

[safe quarry]

pfft what's wrong with the cheese and flesh stew we already have in game, hm?

[icy citrus]

Nothing, but I am advanced enough to slap the bread meat and cheese we have together for a burger

[gloomy isle]

Maybe Sean's a bit of a petrol head who assumes more people will get the reference lol

But atm I'm officially convinced

[icy citrus]

You are such a fair weather update prediction person

[safe quarry]

hehe and i mean... it would explain why he tweeted back at coffee studio peeps with another wave

cause he was waving back.

[safe quarry]

please don't actually base your hype on my absolutely off the wall silly theory. 🤣

[gloomy isle]

I am, especially since I've just drank my morning coffee 😂

[safe quarry]

it will only lead to sadness.

I think there's more credit to my: First person animations. theory. Visible hands and animations.

binoculars we actually put up to our eyes, hands when we sprint, flailing when we fall. gauntlet up to project a hologram of our quick menu

it would actually be pretty neat.

like this but for when we access our quick menu. Not sure it would work for inventories.

in VR it already does this

[grizzled apex]

I had a sudden nostalgia rush to WT S2 with this image, with the dreamers interface 😅

[gloomy isle]

An animations update would be really nice too, a lot of stuff could do with some touches

[safe quarry]

especially reload animations!

[gloomy isle]

I'm still camp corvette rn, just because the only thing making me feel otherwise was a lack of connection to the emoji

But I'd be very happy if stuff like staffs, riding, reloads etc got improved

[safe quarry]

it is a bit actually hehe.

waves = hoverboard.

but i've posted enough screens of treasure planet here for one month.

[native carbon]

Nms waves

Idk

[safe quarry]

fine one more:

[late tusk]

to be fair. first person needs a major rework in NMS

[safe quarry]

mhm and i feel they are already working on this for LNF. so why not bring some of that back.

yes it'll need NMS dependent animations, but the framework for first person limbs can be taken from LNF development.

[gloomy isle]

https://mwcorvettes.com/save-the-wave/

I'm losing my mind

[safe quarry]

hehe you're worse than me! What have i done.

[gloomy isle]

They even have the emoji 😭😭😭

[safe quarry]

I reaaaaally don't think Sean knows about some obscure corvette etiquette

[gloomy isle]

At least I'll be excited again if it isn't corvettes lol

He did work on burnout so idk if he's into cars and stuff

But your probably right

[safe quarry]

and if he has done a deep dive to get there, then he better explain it to the community or else they will be so confused

[safe quarry]

True... the corvette wave theory is back on!

I'm not sure we could ever trust Sean's emojis ever again if it really was a reference to the corvette wave 🤣

[gloomy isle]

This is why I'm thinking, if it really is corvettes, that the expedition might be owner's club themed lol

[safe quarry]

hehe I don't think there's a huge crossover between the corvette and NMS community.

[sour fossil]

Damn, nice find with the corvette wave

[gloomy isle]

I've done a lil digging at it seems it's actually a pretty big thing (within the very niche corvette community lol)

[safe quarry]

I doubt it's that tho. Just my crazy middle of the night deep dive and desperation to find some connection between corvettes and a wave emoji.

[gloomy isle]

It's one of those things where it's definitely tenuous but like

Combined with the datamining and Sean being Sean

Obvs I'm not 100% convinced but it might be the best call so far

[safe quarry]

I'd say No Man's Sky: Arrival is the strongest contender so far. But also a wave emoji could also play double duty for a corvette update if its MP focused. like greeting crew mates.

[gloomy isle]

Especially since apparently there's an optional community milestone thing in the expedition?

[safe quarry]

Sean has also changed the emoji post release sometimes when the first emoji was too tenuous

[late tusk]

i doubt it will be completley MP focused

[safe quarry]

like echoes going from a ? to a megaphone.

[gloomy isle]

We had that with endurance for visiting a friend's freighter

[safe quarry]

I don't think any update has been ❤️ HG are good at looking after their singleplayer community first.

[late tusk]

:)

[grizzled apex]

Huh? Polestar had a community contribution optional milestone?

What was the task?

Or was it a single task milestone?

[late tusk]

what ever HG has been cooking its gonna be good :)

they always cook

[grizzled apex]

Imo this next optional CM milestone looks more like singularity / liquidators than a one off single optional milestone

[gloomy isle]

I think it was a single optional task for visiting a player's freighter iirc

Aaah okay

[sour fossil]

If it's based on communicating with servers, it's automatically shit

We don't need artificial roadblocks we can't jump over in expeditions

[gloomy isle]

It's been a while since I did a pact

[safe quarry]

Imagine, around this time tomorrow we will likely have been leaked the content from the playstation community, and we will all be willing the steam NMS to update.

[grizzled apex]

Feeling confident now are we 😛

[safe quarry]

You better not be talking about the corvettes.

I will not be held accountable for anything that comes from a pact.

[gloomy isle]

Potentially 😂

[safe quarry]

I mean give me enough time and i bet i could make any number of tenuous links between the waving emoji and all sorts of NMS updates.

[icy citrus]

We can make it mean anything

Anything

[safe quarry]

I must admit, i just googled corvette and wave together. I did not expect to end up down a deep rabbit hole.

[safe quarry]

This is why this emoji is the best.

bacon was fun for two minutes

bacon? beacon. done. what's next.

[grizzled apex]

Wonder if it'll drop an hour or so late like the expedition?

[safe quarry]

The time you posted is when i usually see the expedition drop for me?

But i admit i've never watched expedition drops by the hour.

But roughly speaking it seemed when I would've expected an expedition to drop

[grizzled apex]

It's about an hour or two later than usual exped drops.

[safe quarry]

also side note on that point

when its an expedition only, don't they usually drop much earlier?

I feel the expedition only ones go live almost as soon as Sean and co are in the office?

[grizzled apex]

The update usually drops ~ 1pm HG time and the exped starts at 2pm, and this one starts at 3pm, so likely a 2pm drop tomorrow?

[gloomy isle]

Iirc they're basically immediately as the update goes live too right?

[safe quarry]

So that's one argument that its not an expedition only?

[gloomy isle]

If it's just an expedition

[safe quarry]

Oh I see.

[icy citrus]

Lining up for all platforms to have the update before the Exp starts?

[grizzled apex]

I believe that's the case yes, since we do end up with all platforms having the update (mostly, RIP switch) by the time it starts

[safe quarry]

Especially if multiplayer might be encouraged (tho not mandatory) for it?

[icy citrus]

Community goals aye

[safe quarry]

They'll definitely never do a multiplayer only expedition, but it could be a hint for an expedition where multiplayer is encouraged?

imagine multiple corvettes in one system flying up to greet one another. oh the poor poor servers.

[grizzled apex]

Community engagement yes, active MP I'd be on the fence about

[safe quarry]

The community engagement milestones could be MP focused. That way SP players still benefit from them eventually?

'visit another player's corvette'. okay i'm going too far down the corvette rabbit hole again.

'repair hull integrity on another player's corvette' okay i'll stop...

...'destroy 10 pirates while manning turrents on another players....'

[gloomy isle]

If it really is corvettes, maybe a lot of the big change number is down to netcode improvements?

[safe quarry]

this would probably have to come long before corvettes were even feasible.

[gloomy isle]

That's a fair point

[safe quarry]

right now, NMS can barely keep a ball synched across players.

[gloomy isle]

Tbf it could explain the extended testing (?) that might have been taking place

[safe quarry]

crossed my mind too, yush. In the background, an improvement to the netcode would make such a huge difference to NMS across the board.

They could synchronise things the game just doesn't even try to do.

like sentinel capital ships.

[gloomy isle]

Yeah, stuff like that would be absolutely necessary if corvettes were multicrew

[safe quarry]

This is why it seems quite unlikely to get them just yet.

[uncut harness]

What would be the function of multicrew vehicles? I wonder what anyone would do with them besides driving people around

[safe quarry]

I couldn't honestly say. But like Sea of Thieves, i think just the experience of travelling together would make the multiplayer experience more engaging 🙂

its a bit of a faff with someone having to jump systems, while everyone goes to the anomaly and parks to wait and come out again at the new system

or all land on the freighter every time, then all fly out.

So if nothing else, i think one ship you all travel in would take out the friction of multiplayer.

In that Star Citizen game people travel in ships together, and I don't think functionally it really adds that much more to the table than NMS would just by having multicrew ships?

now HG, if you want to add a few functioning mini games like pool tables and things that we can put down in our corvettes...

[analog breach]

I dont really see reason or need for multicrew ships if u just will travel from planet to planet and fight pirates from time to time or raid freighters. Just add folow leader ability like squadrom follows u.

Function would be the same. And no need to ceate seperate ship type for it

[safe quarry]

Because while one person is driving the ship, the other 3 can be up to no good on the ship!

[hard summit]

There's so many little things they could do that would make MP feel more comfortable

[safe quarry]

This is 99% of my experience with Sea of Thieves. one person has to be responsible and steer, and the rest act silly on the ship

[hard summit]

Like more seats on some exocraft

[safe quarry]

even if its just one player manning the turret, that would basically be the same function as most multi-player vehicles in most games.

[analog breach]

No need when every player can summon own exocraft

[safe quarry]

and the funny moment comes when the driver bails two seconds before driving everyone else off the cliff hehe

[hard summit]

Well yeah, but it's more fun

Also cool for new players who don't have them yet

[safe quarry]

I played a game with my friend and she was a terrible driver. there was debris on the road in the game and she just kept hitting it

but everytime she hit one, we burst into louder laughter.

which made her driving worse.

which resulted in more crashing, until it was a game of dodgems.

that's the kind of silly antics more direct player interaction would lead to

[gloomy isle]

If they did add multicrew I feel like it would probably be a secondary aspect to them

[safe quarry]

this too. I feel when they add corvettes, they'll have a primary utility

[gloomy isle]

I think the core appeal would probably just be the different gameplay flow, the fantasy of ship interiors, and probably a different style of combat/ maybe progression

[safe quarry]

and you will also be able to take players with you.

exactly this.

[gloomy isle]

I could see them maybe having passenger seats everyone has to sit in or something

[safe quarry]

I feel the multi-crew aspect would almost be additive.

and nothing stopping one person flying the main corvette and the others being wingmen in their own ships

and HG have added plenty of content who's main rationale is: 'because its fun'.

[gloomy isle]

Yeah for sure, especially since there looks to be hangar space

It would be a good opportunity to buff squadrons too

[safe quarry]

Right now travelling planets with friends feels disjointed, because you kind of all have to separate off to take off, fly to the planet, then meet up on it

so there's big periods of time where in a multiplayer session, you are encouraged to play it as if its singleplayer.

[gloomy isle]

Yeah and you can't really fly together either

[safe quarry]

and a lot of 'oh which planet should we try next? okay well you go first, tell me how it looks, then i'll come in a minute.'

so its much more 'multiplayer adjacent'

than active multiplayer.

Putting people in the same ship makes it more of a share experience.

[gloomy isle]

This is such a nitpicky thing but I hope the exteriors are primarily procedural

And any exterior hull stuff is handled similar to ship building

[uncut harness]

You'd probably need settings for who to allow, or it's only groups. Also do they land on space stations? If someone who owns the corvette goes to a space station and teleports, does that take the ship with them or does it leave it like a freighter?

[gloomy isle]

Imo it's likely that they can't land, but it's all uncertain (if they're even coming in the update is totally unknown too atp)

[uncut harness]

It sounds a lot like a freighter that can move when I see discussion about the corvette idea

You can warp you and your friends around to different systems with you in a freighter, I had some friends come to the center with me that way

[safe quarry]

Oh it's more than an idea, certain elements have been datamined about it

[safe quarry]

mhm! Tho otherwise the freighters are stationary in system.

So you can't fly to planets together.

So what we do know:

1- there were datamined texture files for a corvette, and its hangar, so we know it has one.

[uncut harness]

I did see the moving buildings, we also saw experiments for elevators years ago

[safe quarry]

2- there was a separate experiment of building parts attached to a flying ship. Nothing to suggest the two were linked other than it seemed like a logical leap.

3- there was a 'ship base' and 'friends ship base' added to the files, which suggested a new base type.

add those three together: flyable ships with a buildable interior that other players can at least visit.

[safe quarry]

mhm, absolutely nothing to confirm any of this will even make it into the game.

plenty of things get datamined by people far more competent than me, that never go into the game proper.

But for me, having experienced something like Sea of Thieves, I could absolutely see a ship like this reinvigorating NMS' multiplayer scene, and definitely bring new players. Because people will encourage their friends to get it so they can fill up their 4 man crew.

And if done right, like being able to hire NPC crew, build interiors how you want, upgrade and all that good stuff, not alienate the singlplayer audience either, who get to enjoy corvettes in a whole different way!

[molten karma]

As much as some people hate it NMS needs more combat and combat incentives and tbh I think its inevitable if HG want more sales at some point.

I feel they've been slowly updating combat over the years but I have a hunch it'll lead to a much bigger combat update/overhaul later.

[uncut harness]

I feel like they need to work on the feel of combat, there is plenty of variety. I'd like if they took inspiration from fallout 4 or other games for ground combat as far as animation, and weight. The mech feels good though.

But NMS mostly feels weightless unless you're in the mech fighting

The weapons are good though, sentinels are challenging in higher difficulties, and other enemies are good for variety already.

[misty pollen]

The autophages accidentally built into my base 😭

Half of their building is inside mine

[lime birch]

Call a surveyor

[misty pollen]

There's gotta be a zoning law about this 🧐

[molten karma]

I agree but also disagree. I think there needs to be on ground combat with the other NPCS so say if you're standing is low they could pick a fight like if you favorite the pirates or other factions heavily this could tie into a faction overhaul as well. We have pirate battles in space now give us outlaw settlments and bounty hunting missions for on ground combat as well.

[jaunty turtle]

Yeah combat needs some tweaks but i personally really want some survival features for higher diffs, the cooking system is so cool but it only heals and gives some buffs, i really wanna manage hunger and stuff like that

[gloomy isle]

Unfortunately I think that first point would raise the age rating for the game

And I'm not sure HG would want to do that

[molten karma]

They already raised it during beyond and there are plenty of games that are out with the same age rating that have humanoid violence.

The horrors literally gib in green goop and you can kill fleshy fauna. I don't think it'd affect the age rating as much as you'd think.

[uncut harness]

I do agree ground combat with pirates, and having the squad follow you would be great

Npcs roaming in general would be great

[molten karma]

Overwatch for example is rated T and PEGI-12 and you're shooting at humanoid and fantastical alien looking beings.

Fortnite is another one too. So I doubt NMS would be much different as far as ratings go.

The guns look a lot more in terms with reality in those games than NMS too.

[mint lynx]

Fingers crossed for poi or npc update tommorow not just corvette we already have freighters jeez lol

[safe quarry]

Corvette! corvette! corvette! (I too would be happy with a POI update, i am just not sure how the wave emoji could apply, unless its like welcoming you to different POIs?)

I wouldn't mind an NPC update either.

like an away team we can take with us.

[gloomy isle]

On paper, corvettes are exactly what I've always wanted out of freighters 😂

[safe quarry]

They'd almost be like a do-over, because they can't take back freighters, but those are also too large to reasonably fly or land.

👋 My bet is for either a Void Mother inspired questline (the Void Path?), and it be called No Man's Sky: Arrival. Or an overhaul to the first person experience, and be called... hmm No Man's Sky: Handy update (i have no ideas.)

[winter plover]

I wonder if they fix refiners for corvettes if that'll fix the them/stellar extractors on freighters too

[safe quarry]

Could be rather than a continuation to the story we have now, its an alternate questline.

[gloomy isle]

I love how it's been narrowed down to 3-4 entirely unrelated ideas 😂

With a good chance it's a 5th thing no one considered

[mint lynx]

I'm not anti corvetts but we can already make a space base in freighters and it already summons our cars

[winter plover]

Agreed. However, if they're gonna do it I'm gonna get one and probably enjoy it. Hopefully they use what they learn from it to fix or improve other things in game. Like letting the freighter/frigates/station move in space while we're on them

[gloomy isle]

Personally I just think it's far more homely an idea

Plus there's potential for some different space combat than ships would offer

[mint lynx]

It could be cool but like just as a driveable base pls don't sarffice the big summer update to that lol

It'll be here in like 25 hours who knows, will probally be halfway through Friday for me

If not Saturday

[gloomy isle]

It likely isn't a big summer update tbh

[mint lynx]

Jk about Saturday

[gloomy isle]

Imo there's a good chance that worlds part 2 was our biggest of the year

And this will be something more focused

[winter plover]

I straight up forgot that worlds part 2 was this year 😅 Personally I suspect it'll be like a worlds part 2 part 2, like polishing up and focusing on things that got glossed over the first time around. Like oceans. I felt at the time that they were more excited about the oceans, but WP2 was all about the gas giants. Even the wraith was ocean themed, while the titan expedition had nothing to do with them

[gloomy isle]

Yeah I do think one possibility is something built around undersea POIs and maybe variety. I love the oceans but they might benefit from something a bit more to do down there

I'm still leaning towards corvettes but that's definitely a possibility too

Though I'd prefer something more gameplay oriented at this point, as opposed to generation

[winter plover]

Yeah, we won't know for sure until it drops. I think if they're going to drop corvettes though, they'll drop it alongside something for us to do with the corvettes

[gloomy isle]

I was wondering if maybe they might rework salvageable scrap and have that feed into the corvettes

Another thing that would help them is if they played differently to ships when you're piloting them

Stuff like being weighty with slow turn speeds, but with turrets on the sides etc

[fervent fern]

Any expedition set server-side at this moment?

[winter plover]

Oh you know that made me think. HG isn't a stranger to giving the player one-of-a-kind equipment, but NPC corvettes could be a possibility. A convenient way to add more NPCs the planet surfaces without changing POI generation, or a new type of space battle.

[gloomy isle]

It would be pretty neat yeah. Especially they would fly overhead with other ships, or even land/ park. Maybe they could function similar to ships that land and sell x class stuff or something

[grizzled apex]

Yep, Expedition 19 will start on: <t:1756306800>

[fervent fern]

Oh, nice, can't wait. Thanks!

[charred mason]

Oooooooo

[late tusk]

wait what how

[grizzled apex]

Serverside response got updated today ~10:15 am HG Time with that start time

[mint lynx]

11am what est

[late tusk]

:O

[grizzled apex]

That time's localised to each user's time zone using Discord markdown, so it should be displaying the start time in your timezone

[fervent fern]

24h from now if everything goes smoothly 😅

[mint lynx]

Not bad only 1am for me all nighter it is

Let's get this update

Same day exp
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[midnight stream]

what advertisement

[uncut harness]

It‘s gonna be the biggest update evaaaaarrrrr

Idc what anyone says! I‘ll find ways to make it bigger, if it‘s not actually that big!

[midnight stream]

that's easy

just install the game on a different directory and update that too

[mint lynx]

Few different YouTubers including vtubers for the weebs lol

[midnight stream]

so u get double-sized update

[midnight stream]

i c

[charred mason]

Big is relative 🙂

[spark pecan]

the only honest explanation i got is : the update ic called ''WAVE''
1- water big freaking waves like tsunami and boats also big freaking boats
2- maybe it means waving to someone probably related to multiplayer
3- a last big update to say goodbye containing one of the 2 on top

[midnight stream]

nice name. one of our most popular foods here is called souvlaki 😄 u just made me hungry!

[charred mason]

Are you Greek?

[midnight stream]

yea 😅

[charred mason]

Fun! I got my name from a Slowdive album, but yeah food. 😄

[midnight stream]

dunno slowdive, will check em out

[mint lynx]

What if we get ground dungeons tomorrow that would be cool

Like derelict freighters

[safe quarry]

I would love this

[dusty phoenix]

More dungeons would RULE honestly

I know the game isn't combat FOCUSED but it does have a good amount, especially ground combat, that could be used more

It's really just derelict freighters right now and they're kinda a sweep

[charred mason]

Truth

and I'd think combat will be a big factor of LNF so it makes sense.

[runic mesa]

Ground dungeons would be awesome as that's combat that can be easily avoided by those who don't want it.

And like, something else to do

[mint lynx]

Worlds part 3

[stoic flume]

Sigm me tf up for ground dungeons but i also rlly hope it comes with more interactive npcs in some capacity

[native carbon]

Tommorow orrow orrow orrow

[charred mason]

Indeed tomorrow!

[cosmic anvil]

If it is, I challenge @humble kayak to extend his tag for another 2 weeks

[mint lynx]

🤔

[cosmic anvil]

He still has the "Cinder was right" tag so if you are right again that we are getting a Worlds Part III, I just joked he should extend that tag XD

[zenith perch]

The same day as the update provided we do get one tomorrow?

[zenith perch]

Heavily unlikely to be one of the last updates.

[grizzled apex]

Yep, it can't start without an update, so we'll likely see it start to roll out a few hours before the exped start time

[uncut harness]

I hope we get a trailer drop ontime this time around

I can only play the updates after watching the trailers, it's like a ritual

[glass flare]

I preferred the delayed expedition start, gives us time to explore the new features instead of having to jump straight into the grind

[late edge]

I hope I wake up to excitement and not massive disappointment

[zenith perch]

I only play the game after I've read the patch notes

[sour fossil]

... You know you can start the exped like couple days or even weeks after it launches, right?

[cosmic anvil]

Expect disappointment and you won't be disappointed - Michelle Jones, Spider Man : No Way Home

[zenith perch]

Please let the expedition not be tedious like some of Relics

[sour fossil]

Nobody holds up a gun to your head forcing you to finish it day 1

[zenith perch]

I mean I can but since I actually have started enjoying doing expeditions I wanna knock it out as fast as I can

[sour fossil]

Hell it's even better to wait for the first critical patches

[uncut harness]

All expeditions are tedious to some extent imo, some just less than others

[zenith perch]

This will be the final update of this year minus redux, cannot see anything coming out after

[uncut harness]

but i also only played like 6 of them

[zenith perch]

Idk aquarius was pretty well paced

The storm fish bit was a bit rough but

Relics was really mundane

[uncut harness]

oh true aquarius was very smooth, but it also depended on ur rng

some peeps had very bad one...

[glass flare]

I don't like to be spoiled, and waiting inevitably does that

[zenith perch]

The collect 50 bones was genuinely boring.

[late edge]

I hope the rewards are good. New armor and ship.

[zenith perch]

If they ever get around to trying to fix multiplayer they could make MP related expedition steps maybe

[sour fossil]

Spoiled by what, patch notes? Trailer? Cause those will list the rewards for sure

[uncut harness]

If its VM related plz let there be a VM counterpart to the atlas set

[glass flare]

the expedition narrative?

[uncut harness]

the atlas set looks pretty dope too, so i have high expectations!

[sour fossil]

Corrupted armour set would go hard, with crystals propagating from body

[zenith perch]

It's impossible to avoid expedition spoilers unless you simply legit refuse to look at anything NMS related till you've played it

If it is tomorrow, update will hit playstation first, xbox later, switch might get it day 1

PS pretty much always gets it first so I'll judge what it is off the blurb

[sour fossil]

Yeah I think we got a tad bit different opinions on what a spoiler is

[zenith perch]

I haven't set myself any expectations on purpose.

[uncut harness]

I consider patch notes more spoilery than trailers, but i'll still read them cause the page is kinda pretty

[zenith perch]

I wish they'd optimize the patch notes pages

[sour fossil]

Well tbh both can be misleading lol

[zenith perch]

They seem to not compress images at all

I've seen kanaju vids where the page starts lagging cause of it

[sour fossil]

Trailers are fancy cause they need extra visual appeal

[uncut harness]

yeah but the screenshots are so beautiful...

[glass flare]

anyway if the expedition rewards are primarily just suit cosmetics again I might not even do it

[sour fossil]

Patch notes can be also plain wrong, looking at you Waypoint

[zenith perch]

Will it be v6.0 or v5.8

[glass flare]

I only play in first-person so all those cosmetics are meaningless to me

[uncut harness]

i'm pretty sure you'd do it if it was a VM armor set, even if I dont really know you that well

[zenith perch]

Ah waypoint, a legendarily complained about update.

NOOOOOO I can't stack 56 S class modules NOOOOOOOO!!!!

[glass flare]

no, but if there was a VM spaceship...

[uncut harness]

I want VM Interfaces to be a thing

[sour fossil]

I set myself the expectation of "free shit for my fav game for 9th consecutive year, wonder that will be"

[uncut harness]

Atlas Interfaces are some of the coolest stuff aesthetically, why not give VM the same treatment? She's not as much of a God as Atlas sure, but still...

[sour fossil]

Iiiiiiii don't think VM has much power over the "reality", nor would it require "user input" like Atlas does

[uncut harness]

yeah i agree, but a void interface looks really cool, in my imagination at least^^

[sour fossil]

If anything we kinda interact with VM via monoliths with Atlantideum?

Yeah some VM related structures would be nice to have

[runic mesa]

To be honest, with how buggy some expeditions can be. It's best to wait and not play day 1

[sour fossil]

That and you can wait for community to prepare guides and tips on how to progress it

[uncut harness]

I still avoid doing them with established saves tbh, always start a new save

which kinda sucks cuz i cant keep some unique items that way

[runic mesa]

And give players a chance to upload useful bases

[sour fossil]

(not that its strictly needed but more helpful info is always better)

Yeah also bases good point

[glass flare]

OTOH, not being spammed by 200 message terminals

[uncut harness]

As a soft hoarder who wants at least own one copy of every item in the game im kinda screwed anyways as I dipped after Origins and only came back around Omega

[runic mesa]

I use the terminal. But I'm a legacy/unique item hoarding weirdo.

[uncut harness]

Do you have some Omegon?

[sour fossil]

Pretty sure old resources were converted to current ones

[glass flare]

yeah, I don't think there's a way to keep the old resources

[sour fossil]

There's a table in game files that dictates the conversion rules, like substance A becomes substance B in newer version

[runic mesa]

And I didn't start playing until 2022. 😛

[sour fossil]

Some stuff still exists in game files like Cobalt Mirrors or Destabilised Sodium

[uncut harness]

When i resorted my legacy save i had some old items, but ig ressources are treated differently?

[sour fossil]

There's just no way to obtain it in game

[uncut harness]

I have like..oxyde crystals and some weird sodium item which is not obtainible anymore

Superoxide crystals right

[sour fossil]

Yup that is not converted, just omitted

[runic mesa]

I have 2 Writhing Manuscripts now because I pillaged the one from Adrift.

(Phone, what the hell was that)

[sour fossil]

Those should drop now from worms

[runic mesa]

They do.

That's why I have a second one. 😛

[sour fossil]

Maybe they could find a way to squeeze in non-functional versions of elixirs from Cursed

Aka the lean withdrawal simulator

[uncut harness]

Maybe we'll get planets with the cursed mechanics one day

it could make sense for a ,,world of glass'' planet type thing

[runic mesa]

I was lowkey disappointed that hasn't been brought to the main game yet

[uncut harness]

Given that we got the...stabilizer thing, it ought to be coming sometime I think.

Maybe HG just decided to give it to us a reward cuz it looks kinda cool, but i don't think so

on the other hand...

players who didn't play the expedtion would be, well, not so good then

[grizzled apex]

Uh

Thats not good

I just checked the servers again after a while and the current time for CM 104 (current community mission) is <t:1756897200> to end, the time for CM 105 to start, and expedition 19 to start are currently <t:1756911600>

I don't think I've ever seen it change by an entire week before. Maybe the exped will start after tomorrow's update then?

[uncut harness]

didnt they do something like that once before? an expedition starting like a week after even?

[grizzled apex]

Wonder if something broke last minute?

[grizzled apex]

Thing is, expeditions that start 2 weeks after an update (liquidators, titan) aren't usually even set until after their respective update launches

This is very out of pattern

[runic mesa]

A lot of things about this update have been out of pattern though.

[grizzled apex]

Yea thats fair. Guess we'll find out just why tomorrow

[runic mesa]

I'm really curious. It's just been odd and I wanna know what's up

[uncut harness]

but...is it safe to say now, that the update will start out without the exped, just from this info?

[grizzled apex]

Unless they change the start date again tomorrow back to the original one (which did happen once before, but the shift was a matter of hours, not days), most likely yes

👋 is shaping up to be pretty out of ordinary, at least

[uncut harness]

Hmm interesting, oh welp I don't mind. I dislike how Titan sorta ,,spoiled'' my gas giant experience, which I have still not achieved in the regular game

[grizzled apex]

Or HG heard me complaining about having to download it in the air 😅

[uncut harness]

And before you say I could have skipped the exped: I needed the rewards!

[runic mesa]

I did ISM before I ran Titan

[gloomy isle]

Ngl I might wake up and start work early tomorrow so I can clock our an hour or so early 😂

I'm too excited to see what it is

[runic mesa]

It's times like these it sucks to have a warehouse job lol

[uncut harness]

Welp expeditions give me FOMO so no option for me

worst case i have some accident and am stuck in a hospital for a while!

[dense quartz]

Is that the base part that sorta looks like a knowledge stone?
I imagined that the new hazard mechanic would be on some purple system planets and the only way to recharge our shields would be to find those on the surface of those planets. Would've been a unique way to navigate such planets.

[mint lynx]

The update is delayed see y'all next Wednesday lol

[uncut harness]

nah they dont necessarily need the expedition to align with the update

[runic mesa]

Expeditions have started after an update drop before

[grizzled apex]

I think this is excellent news honestly, it shows that the update has content beyond the expedition, for anyone still in doubt

[dense quartz]

That's not that unusual, expeditions tend to start like a day or two after the update. Sometimes it takes a whole week.

[runic mesa]

Yeah. If they're postponing it by a week...

[uncut harness]

i never thought about this before, if they started on the same day wouldnt we need like two trailers too?

but wait no they did exped. only trailers only for exped only updates no?

[dense quartz]

Nah, the expedition would just be briefly mentioned in the update trailer.

[native carbon]

Ya all are having fun and stuff, while me with a fever struggles to sleep to wake up to an update tomorrow 🤑 🤑

[grizzled apex]

I know, Im talking about HG changing the date by a week. Usually if an exped isnt set to launch with an update, it's start date isnt set until its about to be released

[uncut harness]

at least you got an excuse to do nothing, albeit not having any fun with that ,,leisure''...

[runic mesa]

I wonder if they're anticipating a lot of bug fixes with whatever is coming

[mint lynx]

Expeditions dropp after the update for specific reasons like the cursed being too buggy and getting extended for example not just for no reason

[native carbon]

Expeditions usually start at the same time the trailer and patch notes drop, but this time expedition will drop 2 hours later for some reason

Big updates have expeditions set up to be a week later

[grizzled apex]

and now, a whole week later (going by current server response)

[native carbon]

Or 2

[uncut harness]

trailers drop late often i feel like, i hope its an early one this time

[native carbon]

Wait huh?

[mint lynx]

Maybe the exp got delayed because it's another update updating something switch can't use

[uncut harness]

I want to wake up, get down for breakfast, turn on the tv, open youtube, and see the trailer as the first recommendation! That'd be a dream

[native carbon]

Oh damm

What if the update also got delayed to september 3rd lol

[runic mesa]

I don't think they would have dropped the emoji already if they knew that

[late edge]

Expedition delayed just makes me think there's enough in this update to keep us busy for a week

[uncut harness]

Don't give HG any ideas, who knows if one of them isnt among us rn...

[native carbon]

I really hope the update itself is not delayed, @grizzled apex confront us

[grizzled apex]

Yea I don't think the update itself would be getting delayed. I'm pretty sure HG only do that once they have a "gold" release sent to platforms for certification, so we'll likely get something tomorrow, then the expedition launch a week later when they've fixed whatever critical bug got in that necessitated a delay

[native carbon]

Well according to recent paterns if an expedition is set up a week after the update its gonna be beeeeg

[grizzled apex]

and hell, who knows? They might just reverse the delay if they can fix the issue before it drops

[uncut harness]

night shift incoming!

[native carbon]

Im so stressed rn 😦

I cannot lose the pact

[uncut harness]

then dont start a pact 😄

[mint lynx]

I can't cap patterns kinda mean nothing with this update it broke several of them
Sorta annoying lol

[native carbon]

🙏 pls dont be delayed 🙏

[runic mesa]

My only worry is that they'll update/add something that can't be accessed on Switch 1. As that affects me personally. 😛

[uncut harness]

it wont be, no worries

[native carbon]

Nms multiplayer rework

🤣

[grizzled apex]

its a good reminder to never rely too heavily on em. HG just does whatever they want

[native carbon]

So bomber, u saying the update is not delayed most likely?

[mint lynx]

True I find myself on switch 1 Most often now I hope it gets the update too

It's been pretty good looking and stable since worlds

[grizzled apex]

Either the update releases tomorrow and the expedition launches a week later while HG iron out bugs, or theres a massive fire in HG's office trying to get a last minute critical bug fixed rn that flew under the radar

Given HG's record, im more inclined to believe the first

[uncut harness]

Do you guys play on the couch or in comfy places then? I couldnt imagine myself compromising for 30fps...

[native carbon]

30 fps is good as long as its stable

Im looking at you pokemon scarlet violet

[late edge]

Could this update be 6.0?

Beacons was 5.7

[uncut harness]

yeah that would also align with it potentially being very chunky

[dense quartz]

I actually think this could be what the update is about.
Specifically backported from LNF since that game seems to be made with multiplayer in mind from the beginning and people have been begging HG for years for a better multiplayer.

[uncut harness]

they would have still needed to rewrite a lot of code, but they also took their time with it this time, so who knows...

i'd still rank a space or poi update higher personally

[late edge]

A multiplayer update doesnt excite me at all tbh. I dont bother with it really

[uncut harness]

corvettes might make me seek out mp more

but i'd probably need to find peeps on this or similar servers, cause my rl friends are too unreliable, they wouldnt stick to it for as long as i lol

[late edge]

Depends on what content comes with corvettes

[uncut harness]

yeah that too

Im sure we'll get vm stuff in the expedition at least

[dense quartz]

A planetary POI and space encounter rework would go so hard.

I really don't like how space stuff literally spawns in front of your face and you have to pretend it's been there the whole time, or how most POIs on planets are just the same exact model and layout.

[late edge]

Yeah id imagine they'll get updated eventually

[uncut harness]

i like the different architectures between the races but the usecases of old poi's are...no longer there, once you have extracted all their lore

[late edge]

But its been 9 years of the same buildings so who knows

[uncut harness]

some could be refitted into procedural dungeons of sorts perhaps, like derelicts

factories would be a canidate for that

[gloomy isle]

My guess is that this is 5.8

[late edge]

Im surprised they didn't do this already.

That derelict tech would make some great ruins

[mint lynx]

I hope 6.0 lol

[uncut harness]

6.0 means CHUNKS

So im also hoping, for 6.0

[late edge]

They might save 6.0 for the 10 year too

[uncut harness]

cuz 6 + 10 = 16?

[gloomy isle]

I'd love 6.0 but from what little we know, it seems like it'll be more focused than a .0 update

[analog breach]

If we had higher number than X.7 then u could bet on X.8

And i dont think we did

[uncut harness]

but then you also have to reduce 16, which is 1 + 6 = 7. Yes. I was invested in numerology at some point

[gloomy isle]

Personally I just think worlds part 2 was so massive that we'd be very lucky to get another huge update

Part 1 and 2 were both yearly sized and much closer together than they usually are

[uncut harness]

the worlds updates were already in works for quite a bit of time though iirc

[gloomy isle]

I don't think it'll be small by any means, given how long it's been since beacon

[analog breach]

There where no statements that there will be more than 1 worlds update tho

[gloomy isle]

There were, when it launched it was part one with more to come in the summer

[analog breach]

Nope..more means something. Not worlds part 2 specificaly.

[gloomy isle]

If you read it like that then sure

[uncut harness]

wasnt part 2 even delayed actually?

[gloomy isle]

But I don't think it's the correct interpretation

[dense quartz]

I assume the tech is in space because the terrain would cause problems.
I mean the way buildings are placed on planets are already very game-y with a radius around them being totally flat and there's a very hard cut-off point.

[gloomy isle]

Either way, I'm kinda expecting something ranging from orbital to endurance

Probably closer to orbital imo

[analog breach]

I dont expect nothing. I just want the update to be good

[uncut harness]

Yes, something more substantial than relics and beacon too

[gloomy isle]

(I'm manifesting corvettes)

[grizzled apex]

theres an unused version of the in-game WPI patch notes which mentioned WPII by name

[dense quartz]

I'm expecting it to overhaul an existing part of the game and add depth to it and tie it together with other mechanics..
And have the community complain how they didn't want a brand new pointless shallow disconnected feature and were hoping for an overhaul of an already existing content that also got tied together with other content. That happens a lot for some reason.

[gloomy isle]

I don't really mind what it is so long as it's cool 😂

So basically I'll enjoy it whatever it is