nms-spoilers

[runic mesa]

6:34pm HG time right now

[cosmic anvil]

I hope you're right honestly you're getting me hyped

I was pretty cynical if you saw my earlier messages

[analog breach]

6.94.20

[humble kayak]

aw man now i'll feel bad if I am wrong

[cosmic anvil]

But you do have a point, why are they sponsoring so much all of a sudden

[humble kayak]

Captain Steve isn't the most credible, but he apparently was told something will happen on the 27th

That does not always mean an update ofc

but why a wednesday

[grizzled apex]

Haven't watched any CS vids,did he say HG told him that?

[grizzled apex]

Probably still have ~4 hours for a viable sat drop

[mint lynx]

So no emoji yet but sponsored videos and Google is advertising steam is having a sale but when you click the page no sale

[uncut harness]

It‘s also in his latest video description

[grizzled apex]

Huh, strange on the steam bit

[uncut harness]

Steam has an NMS Sale listed already?

[grizzled apex]

I read the description. Didn't see anything about the 27th mentioned, unless I missed it?

[humble kayak]

Hearsay, I suppose

[grizzled apex]

Not yet

[humble kayak]

Evellin was going to look into it ((I think))

dunno if they ever did

[grizzled apex]

Ah, good ol' I know a guy who knows a guy

[humble kayak]

yeah

[uncut harness]

If we get the update coming Wednesday I would expect the sale to start monday

[grizzled apex]

Most likely yea

[grizzled apex]

Probably Google caching old results?

[mint lynx]

I don't think so because I've been checking everyday since last week but it's possible I guess

[grizzled apex]

Ah strange

[mint lynx]

All signs once again point to emoji lol

[grizzled apex]

༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕_◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ

[uncut harness]

Hmm

So the Gibs are starting…

Hopefully from Sean‘s side too

[cosmic anvil]

Y'know, one day I imagine going to sleep and waking up to an emoji and 1 billion messages on this channel

[grizzled apex]

Summoning a summoning, in a way

[humble kayak]

i keep thinking "oh itll be next week"

thats happened four times now

[grizzled apex]

I've been up for a few days waiting and I have an odd feeling it'll drop the one day I don't wait haha

[mint lynx]

It's definitely possible googles been giving me old results but I've been checking since gog got a nms sale and thays new lol

[gloomy isle]

I'm not personally seeing anything but I've also never seen it show sales that aren't there

[cosmic anvil]

Anyone heard from Clippy? I guess guy just gave up

[uncut harness]

If the 27th turns out to only be the Emoji and the update the week after I‘d not be satisfied I think

27th needs to be the drop!

Which means…we need an Emoji very soon ༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕_◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ

[grizzled apex]

I've had chrome hallucinate on the link autofill for GOG with a ghost sale often, but not Google with an actual search result before

[gloomy isle]

Could captain steves link just be an analytics thing?

Just do HG can measure the numbers etc from the sponsorships

[mint lynx]

I would assume someone problally knows somthing with the update being lateish
We got echoes tommorow

[gloomy isle]

I might be out of the loop but why does captain steve think something is happening on the 27th?

[grizzled apex]

Most likely is

All the sponsored creators have the same type of link

They did this for the 6th anniversary too, the site didn't change

Which makes him speculating that something will happen even stranger since he had a 6th anniversary sponsored video up to...

[gloomy isle]

Another thing I noticed was Jason Plays liking comments speculating that something big is around the corner

He doesn't usually feed into stuff like some other creators do iirc

[mint lynx]

That don't really have to mean anything though everyone knows it's summer update time

Imagine if switch gets only half the update again

It's over bros

[grizzled apex]

I really don't think HG would tell sponsored creators about that still

[humble kayak]

the creators probably just

pieced together something big is near

because, realistically, there probably is

[mint lynx]

Worlds part 3

[uncut harness]

Maybe

[grizzled apex]

One of us

[uncut harness]

Three parts also kinda feel more cohesive to me than just two, but who knows

[grizzled apex]

Would be funny if they drop another X Part 1 just to mess w/ anyone thinking of WP3

[uncut harness]

If it's a space overhaul the worlds tag wouldn't make any sense I think, only a POI or Fauna revamp would warrant another Worlds update, and I feel like the latter is unlikely to happen at all.

Or a cave update ig

but that is also something im not sure will be touched again. I kinda like caves the way they are tbh even though there arent many reason to visit one

the thing is messing with caves would likely also cause other unwanted changes to planets which is something hg would want to avoid

[queen bolt]

Anyone tryna play? Also how rare are purple solar systems?

[analog breach]

Purple systems are Quest locked

Late game content

[runic mesa]

Ground POI update would be my dream. I love walking around and exploring in NMS and anything to assist that I'm in favor of.

[analog breach]

Try asking in looking for group channel #nms-lfg-or-trades

[queen bolt]

Are u able to trade quartzite and crystallized helium?

[cosmic anvil]

Please ask in #nms-lfg-or-trades or #no-mans-sky

[runic mesa]

Now, if you are asking how to unlock purple systems, here is fine. But trading/mp goes in the designated channel

[cosmic anvil]

After the bacon stunt that Sean pulled, I wouldn't put it past him

Like what is the relationship between beacon and bacon other than a pun🥲

And even then the name Beacon doesn't relate to settlements at all without context

[uncut harness]

I thought Beacon was gonna be the poi revamps cause beacon --> signal beacons, which are at almost every POI

But thats not how Sean thinks, the Orange from Origins also was just a word pun

[grizzled apex]

tbf, most of the emojis recently have been somewhat related to the name rather than the update's contents:

Ω - Omega (Symbol)
💫 - Orbital (Looks like an orbiting star)
🌍 - WP1 (literally a world)
🏺 - Aquarius (the symbol for the astrological sign)
🤬 - The Cursed (literally cursing)
🪐 - WP2 (another world)
🥓 - Beacon (bacon)

Adrift and Relics don't really fit that though, unless i dont get the link

[grizzled apex]

i still dont get why that was the update name tbh. Frontiers made sense for settlements, but there are a lot more features that'd have an update named beacon be a better fit for them

[mint lynx]

Aquarius still pisses me off, they had to know we found out about ruin worlds lol

[grizzled apex]

I still wanna know why they left The Cursed's initial logo in Adrift's files.

Was it meant to take place much earlier?

It made the emoji a lot easier to make sense of atleast

[glass flare]

i'm still pissed about Relics, because they had a chance to give us some cool explorable ruins -- they have the tech to build procedural buildings -- and yet they just used the old Exotic template and stuck random building parts in the ground all over the place. Such a letdown of vision on that one

[runic mesa]

Sean's Saturday emojis are usually dropped around 10pm to 12am HG time, right?

(Yes, I know the actual timezone name, "HG time" is just more amusing)

[uncut harness]

Yeah I really don't care for relic worlds at all, gonna collect the building parts someday...

but

the giant statue thingie

it can only spawn on relic planets right?

[grizzled apex]

Beacons was 9:51 am, Relics was 11:39 pm, Omega was 10:51 am, Fractals was 11:58 pm, all of these on Saturday

Since we overshot two of those, 12 am HG time is the upper limit for today

[runic mesa]

Yup. And it's stupid rare. I spent hours just to find this one.

[uncut harness]

A sunday emoji could also happen right? A monday one i feel like would be too close for a a wednesday drop

[uncut harness]

Are they just a cool sight to see or do they actually offer anything beyond cool screenshots?

[grizzled apex]

fun fact, its a full fledged building POI, like sentinel hives, monoliths etc, even if it looks like another planetary object

[runic mesa]

They just look cool.

[grizzled apex]

its got a memory stone at the centre

[runic mesa]

They are nifty though. This one's on a mountain top and overlooks a valley.

[grizzled apex]

Emojis have happened every day of the week since HG started the whole emoji thing. 2024 onwards have been Sunday, Saturday, Friday and Thursday in order of frequency.

[mint lynx]

Hello games be like
Upload the exp
Sponsor YouTubers
Release stuffed animals
Eat hot chip

They forgot the emoji

[late edge]

When did they start? Living ship i think

[grizzled apex]

yep

back in 2020

[uncut harness]

hmmm in that case...I vouch for tomorrow now

[grizzled apex]

Still crazy how the main pre-update teaser pattern came from Living Ships of all places...

[uncut harness]

Trying to align with the universe rn, and the energy telling me no emoji today

[late edge]

I remember when we only got an update once a year. It was hell waiting for next after atlas rises lol

[grizzled apex]

Although I wish they'd continued the in-game teaser quests for updates too, like living ships had before the update dropped

[mint lynx]

They gotta update living ships it's a terrible system if you multi save lol

[uncut harness]

I love living ships

[sharp hare]

So wait is null just a try hard that min maxed everything to the point of sacrificing their body instead of enjoying the exploration for the joy of it?

[uncut harness]

Kinda, they likely also killed other travellers during this process

[grizzled apex]

The wraith looks beautiful, which made me wish we could make custom LS later down the lane, and scrap the wraith for parts maybe?

Would love more parts in that vein in the LS pool somehow

[uncut harness]

Lowkey was hoping the wraith would be able to dive

[mint lynx]

Why don't living ships fly underwater?!??!?

[uncut harness]

but that would have devalued the nautilon again

[sharp hare]

Yeah like they reset their own universe and why they are upset at us for doing the same

[grizzled apex]

They committed the first sin of defying the Atlas in order to witness all of creation, by consuming traveller souls

[sharp hare]

Oh, I thought they just took the robot race’s body over

[grizzled apex]

with how messed up perspective is in ships already, diving in one would be a nightmare imo

even with the deeper oceans we'd be crashing around way too often

[uncut harness]

the autophage are a fairly new occurence, both gameplay and lorewise

[sharp hare]

I see

Honestly it is pretty cool to see the lore expanding with the updates

[grizzled apex]

I think its implied that their form isnt natural, but its not autophage in nature either.

There's one weekend mission entry which talks about a strange factory which suddenly started producing appearance modifications matching Null's head one day, which consumed the workers there

or at least, its implied that they matched Null's head?

[uncut harness]

Yeah and they also give us the mind arc tech

[sharp hare]

I will say after null’s introduction the lore really got my interest

I love when games are meta

[uncut harness]

Its been a while since we've heard from Null tbh

[grizzled apex]

surely this soul capturing device wasn't used for nefarious purposes!

[sharp hare]

especially as per my pfp I’m a oneshot fan

[grizzled apex]

Although we do something similar in the LS questline

[grizzled apex]

You'll love Telamon's logs on exotic worlds then, if you haven't read them already

Since Telamon is aware of you, the player

[sharp hare]

I think I’ve seen a movie by Christopher Nolan about a clear evil creation shocking someone to be used for something bad lol

[uncut harness]

Null might be working together with the Abyss according to Sentinel Pillar logs, so i wonder if we'll see them again

[sharp hare]

oOo

[grizzled apex]

i think i have a json dump actually, wait

[mint lynx]

I just seen they got a vtuber to advertise no man's sky to the weebs
Wtf going on

😂

[uncut harness]

We already have weebs

but i guess the more the merrier

[mint lynx]

Believe me when I say the kinda weebs who watch vtubers are different

[grizzled apex]

here ya go, the last few lines are just the interaction labels, but I left them in there for my lore project in case they tie those into future lore somewhere

(yes i am aware json is not a typical reading format)

[grizzled apex]

I've seen a theory floated around that they're likely reaching out to people to get more attention on HG themselves, as opposed to NMS specifically, for whenever they announce more about LNF

So reaching a large section of people who wouldn't usually interact with your game would make more sense in that context

[uncut harness]

yeah

but i'll choose to ignore that cuz i want the emoji now!

[grizzled apex]

Im sure HG are banking on a lot of the NMS community to pick up LNF on launch, but they obviously also wanna have as big a reach as possible before it drops

[uncut harness]

Inb4 we get an LNF emoji now before an NMS one

which ironically would be less hype to me

[sharp hare]

I can confirm they are WILD wild

[uncut harness]

i'll try lnf for sure but its not gonna beat NMS for me, Sci-Fi >>> Fantasy for me

[sharp hare]

Thanks! Also cool how current lore can be deciphered in the future

[mint lynx]

That makes sense lnf would fit in more with anime communities it's fantasy and has bunny people

I don't need to explain why they like that stuff aha

[uncut harness]

yeh actual catgirls/boys etc. might be possible in LNF too

I hope the nms races kinda have a presence tho

or something akin to them

[grizzled apex]

It's up to HG to build on it, and they did a great job with the Void Mother and Autophage, since the Abyss / Atlantis / Void Mother's been mentioned in game since at least the Atlas Rises 1.3 days, even though off handedly

[uncut harness]

Going back to old lore threads now is wild

[grizzled apex]

Really wish we get more development on Gek / Vykeen lore though. Nal being "saved" by the Atlas and the whole 6 cries at the monolith imagery feels so important, but we have no payoff for it yet

[uncut harness]

People thought that the Atlas was corrupting us if we chose its guidance, some were sure rejecting the path would lead to a different ending...

[grizzled apex]

If HG weren't allergic to giving player choices consequences maybe...

[uncut harness]

They really hyped this whole thing up in Omega...but welp, it iz what it is.

[mint lynx]

You can make a choice kill Artemis

[uncut harness]

True

This is one of the reasons why I cannot main my legacy save, I apparently killed Artemis back on it or rather I let them die, we ain't murderers!

[grizzled apex]

Doesn't change much except locking you out of sole dialogue in the purge though, at least not yet

And again, if they decide to expand on the Artemis lore, they're probably gonna have to retcon the choice somehow, unless they work in a branching narrative

[uncut harness]

Artemis was mentioned in Cursed I think?

[grizzled apex]

Yep, I believe the voice said "Artemis is dead" or something along those lines

Which is strange unless they're hinting simulation-artemis isn't the real Artemis or something, since not everyone killed em

Which would again triviliaze the one place where player choice had an effect on the story

[glass flare]

as far as I understood Artemis was already "dead" by the time we meet them, which is why we could never actually physically meet them. what we are saving is just an echo that crossed the boundaries

[mint lynx]

It's not like the story is anything more than tutorials of features though

[uncut harness]

Right, I think Nada said something like that about the nature of Artemis

[grizzled apex]

Fairly outdated tutorial then

[uncut harness]

The tutorial is also a soft lore drop, at least for peeps who pay attention to such stuff

[grizzled apex]

Aren't all of the travellers we meet echoes? The ones on stations appear to be apparitions from other universes, but they always point to a grave.

Apollo is probably the only living traveller we know then, no?

[uncut harness]

The ones on the anomaly seem alive while the station/planet ones are echoes most likely

and apollo plus null also likely both living

[grizzled apex]

Oop yea, forgot about the anomaly iterations

[glass flare]

I think that was true originally, I'm not sure now. Some of them you meet in stations seem to be from different timelines, maybe a different simulation seed run in parallel to ours

[grizzled apex]

Yea, but all of them point to a grave when you ask where they came from. The grave model never matches the station traveller, but that's probably just an oversight?

[glass flare]

fwiw the station travellers can give us items (or at least nanites, I can't remember if there's other things), I'm not sure if echoes can do that

ultimately probably doesn't matter

[uncut harness]

yeh, those guys are generally a bit creepy, some of their dialogue is spooky stuff

There is one where its apparently just the suit talking to us, having taken over the traveller/echoe

[grizzled apex]

Yea it's mostly just extrapolations

[humble kayak]

i have a confession

I did not save Artemis

[grizzled apex]

This ties in well with one of the sentinel hive dialogues mentioning how several telamons have already sacrificed their travellers to the Abyss. Maybe the freedom the VM offers in return is control of the traveller host?

[humble kayak]

this is that "I did not care for the godfather" moment but Artemis was already dead

It is not our call to decide between life and death for an individual, less so when their alternative is just a single star system

[humble kayak]

I've always been interested in Telamon

you can see him (It?) looking around on your backpack

Telamon's gotta have some opinions by now

[glass flare]

Artemis was basically a LLM

[grizzled apex]

They're probably one of the best developed characters so far, since we can actually see their perspective

[humble kayak]

we can? I know there's lore on Telamon falling out w/ Atlas and stuff but

I didn't think it went much farther than the sentinel hive stuff you mentioned

[grizzled apex]

They're also a really interesting character type. How do you go from omnipotence to being shattered across parallel universe's?

[uncut harness]

The echoe is what remains of those taken to the world of glass, which is what happened to artemis while we were interacting with them

[grizzled apex]

The boundary failure lore (at least the end), has a few thoughts from Telamon themself. I'd say it's dialogue from their perspective after the Atlas' betrayal

[humble kayak]

ah

[uncut harness]

Interestingly enough Telamon seems to not even know its own role going by that dialogue

they question everything the atlas tells them

[humble kayak]

i wonder if Telamon knew about the space anomaly

before we got the summons

[glass flare]

my lore is rusty but wasn't Telamon originally the kid from Waking Titan who got lost in the simulation

[humble kayak]

If the sentinels cannot see the anomaly, then it calls into question if the other sub-AI know about it

[uncut harness]

Telamon states that the Atlas claims that it (Atlas) is dying, and that telamon is a subprotocol. This suggests Telamon doesnt know about either

[grizzled apex]

There's dialogue about the first traveller Telamon gets attached to meeting beings who claim to be from a different point in time, but I don't think that's necessarily talking about the anomaly?

Telamon calls these individuals liars though

[glass flare]

the Sentinels know about the anomaly, it was in one of the lore files, they just choose to leave it alone because (if memory recalls) they didn't see it as a threat

[humble kayak]

oh cmon man now you've got me imagining telamon as an R2D2-esq sarcastic type

lmao

[humble kayak]

oh

[uncut harness]

Ariadne might be a sentinel spy of sorts, given that their name is used to unlock sentinel pillars

[humble kayak]

well then what exactly is the anomaly hiding from

or is it less the anomaly and moreso its occupants

[mint lynx]

I guess it's fair to expect an emoji tomorrow with all the sponsorships today

Or maybe today idk

[grizzled apex]

The Atlas I believe

[uncut harness]

Good thing the Atlas likes us

[grizzled apex]

Nada doesn't want to be seen by the "Crimson Liar" specifically

[uncut harness]

But some travellers such as Tethys use the Anomaly to in fact hide from the Sentinels

[humble kayak]

That's a bold move by them lol. Effectively hiding from God

but that makes sense

[uncut harness]

Nada has a grudge against the Atlas

[grizzled apex]

That's true, all of the iterations seem to have their own backstories about how they got there

[glass flare]

to be fair, even though the Sentinels are aware of the anomaly, its movement capabilities would probably make it hard to attack

[humble kayak]

Actually, now that the anomaly has been brought up I figured I'd tell you guys

I think I mentioned this before beacons

It appears like the exterior of the anomaly is becoming increasingly more damaged

I don't know if it is actually happening, but I thought I saw something on a wiki about it, and I know there's wear and tear on its exterior rn

So when we do get the update, I'm going to screenshot a before and after pic

[uncut harness]

Yeah which makes Adrift all the more obsecure. Apparently when digging into the files the state Nada was in was designated as dead by HG. Now the name of a file isnt always to be taken literal, but it's still something to consider.

[mint lynx]

I like how half the games story is in exps too
One of the Atlus items is a omega reward lol

[humble kayak]

Do we know how time passes in the anomaly?

perhaps for all intents and purposes the occupants of the anomaly are dead

in reality

seeing as they've essentially left that "plane" and are now in the anomaly, which I've seen described as like a hidden hard drive

[uncut harness]

I am not even sure if the reset affects the anomaly

[mint lynx]

The anomoly is just weird it's more fixed on the inside worse outside every update

Lights added on the inside or various other improvments

[humble kayak]

honestly

i'd like them to expand the anomaly

wanna know what those doors are behind nada and polo

realistically they're probably their rooms

but also that door behind the research stations

the big one

[glass flare]

i wonder if they have plans for the empty rooms on the space station, or they made them "just in case"

[late edge]

The anomaly is outside space and time iirc

[humble kayak]

explains why we never see Cronus

sleep

or any other of the "Houses" in there have furniture in them

[glass flare]

hm, does the exosuit clock stop when inside the anomaly?

[grizzled apex]

Well

That's a strange emoji

What's 👋 supposed to be?

[uncut harness]

Huh?

[grizzled apex]

Oh, waves?

[glass flare]

oh we got one?

[uncut harness]

did he post something?

[grizzled apex]

https://x.com/NoMansSky/status/1959358722276225145?s=19

Sean Murray (@NoMansSky)

👋

X · Aug 23, 2025, 8:54 PM

27th it is

[uncut harness]

He actually did it

[hot niche]

Not on bluesky. Huh

[grizzled apex]

A third water update?

[uncut harness]

Damn

[grizzled apex]

He usually posts a lil late there

[uncut harness]

I was about to bite the bullet and go to sleep

Now I...am awake!

[lime birch]

Waves?

[glass flare]

oh man, people are going to interpret that "goodbye" wave the worst way aren't they

[grizzled apex]

Probably so

[uncut harness]

The final NMS Update it is guys 🫡

[grizzled apex]

Hmm, water update + expedition?

[humble kayak]

IS IT HERE

[lime birch]

Yeah

[grizzled apex]

Yep

[humble kayak]

FUCK YEAH

[lime birch]

But water was already updated

Water ships and waves

[uncut harness]

Maybe it is lore related

[glass flare]

are they porting over sailing ships from LNF? that would be silly

[uncut harness]

or the void mother is waving to us? implying the conclusion of that arc

or the end of the simulation as a whole?

[grizzled apex]

Could be the energy type of wave?

[uncut harness]

Hmm

I have to say, Im glad he posted an emoji but at the same time feel underwhelmed lol

still lots to speculate about, but didnt expect something so...basic ig?

hmm

[grizzled apex]

But again, 🥓 -> Beacon -> Settlements was an odd jump

[humble kayak]

Departures? maybe???

[runic mesa]

Ha, it's go time!

[humble kayak]

but how would you link that to anything

[grizzled apex]

Who who knows what 👋 -> Waves -> ??? Could be

[humble kayak]

que mr incredible "show time" gif

[uncut harness]

theres gonna be some doomer vibes from people interpreting this literally

[glass flare]

absolutely

[lime birch]

It can be related to freighters 😁

[grizzled apex]

Sure wonder who 😛

[glass flare]

incoming "so I heard this is the last update" every day

[late edge]

Maybe hes saying goodbye to something old or hello to something new idk

[native carbon]

hehehe

you know who made a pact on 27th?

[humble kayak]

No mans sky: Frequencies?

as in like

dissonance and VM stuff

[uncut harness]

hmm

did he do lore related emojis before?

[runic mesa]

Lol Omega Era Doomsaying Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

[humble kayak]

maybe we're looking at this by the wrong angle

[grizzled apex]

🧠 for singularity I guess?

[native carbon]

maybe its multitool related?

[humble kayak]

No Mans Sky: Arrival??

but that doesnt work

hmmm

[glass flare]

NMS: Frequencies brings the addition of three radio stations broadcast across the galaxy

[humble kayak]

wait a minute

Autophage are they who returned

[uncut harness]

The VM apparently wants to transcend/save the simulation, so maybe we say goodbye to the old one and transcend into a new one somehow? No idea tbh

[glass flare]

Sean isn't thinking that deeply with these names lol

[runic mesa]

No Man's Sky: Void Mommy Says Hi

[grizzled apex]

Still pretty sure it's tied to the name, but there's not much to glean from "Waves" apart from further ocean upgrades?

[humble kayak]

no mans sky: the handshake update

[runic mesa]

Waves = I GET MY BOAT?? Yes?

[uncut harness]

So how could Waves possibly tie to corvettes?

[native carbon]

my theories:
ocean themed expedition update
multitool update
new NPC's update

[runic mesa]

Hmm, wavelength?

[grizzled apex]

Probably wont

[lime birch]

New submarine?

[humble kayak]

unless we're reading it wrong

if you could even call this

reading

[runic mesa]

manifests a boat

[humble kayak]

i'm not sold on Waves

that seems too on the nose

[grizzled apex]

So was Beacon tbf

[ebon spoke]

waving emoji because they decided to 'leave' the game where it's at and not update it again 😅

[runic mesa]

Shh, don't let the click bait YouTubers hear you

[glass flare]

not Waves, but Weaves.... a NMS update allowing you to weave new clothing, trade patterns

[grizzled apex]

Didn't need an emoji after 80 days now haha

[late edge]

Synonyms for the verb "hand wave" or "wave" include gesture, beckon, signal, motion, salute, and gesticulate

[uncut harness]

space waves?

[humble kayak]

i immediately think like

fabric of space type stuff

gravity

but that doesnt make sense

[uncut harness]

no, theres no such thing as space waves i think

[humble kayak]

well as in solar wind i think

[uncut harness]

hmm

[humble kayak]

thats how solar sailers would hypothetically work

they're nets that use emissions from the local star to propel the craft

[uncut harness]

I was hoping for either a space or poi overhaul, Im struggling to tie this emoji to this. Corvettes seem out of scope here as well

[late edge]

I think it'll be a big update personally. If it was emoji it would come out on a Monday

[humble kayak]

There's still the supposed 27th event

but that's very much a "might be a myth"

[uncut harness]

Could just be another origins/beacon and the real word will just turn out to sound similarly

[humble kayak]

well tbf

the word beacon had jack shit to do with settlements

[lime birch]

Wave = greeting = crew

[uncut harness]

hmmm

[humble kayak]

see i would go

[uncut harness]

seems far fetched but i can see it

[humble kayak]

wave = greeting = arrival

arrival = things from the world of glass?

[ebon spoke]

new gamemode: wave defense mode

[humble kayak]

corvettes?

[uncut harness]

world of glass and vm stuff could all fit here yeah

[ebon spoke]

I like Arrival

[mint lynx]

That's wild I'm sure no one expected a hand wave emoji

[lime birch]

I would like corvettes

[uncut harness]

No Man's Sky: Arrival. Sounds dope, no idea what content that would offer though

[humble kayak]

i'd think in-universe its things being pulled from somewhere else

maybe earlier iterations of the simulation

[ebon spoke]

arrival of the void mother maybe

[humble kayak]

^

[sharp dock]

🖐️

Hi

[grizzled apex]

50/50 on either corvettes or the VM if its Arrival

[humble kayak]

why not both

[sharp dock]

Ok, here we go again, we are in time

[uncut harness]

Yes but...what exactly does this mean for the game then?

[humble kayak]

the VM would bring things with it

[uncut harness]

what content will vm bestow upon us this time?

[mint lynx]

It's probably the void mother finally coming after worlds part 2 was purple systems

[humble kayak]

perhaps Corvettes included

[humble kayak]

I'm starting to think Arrival is in the right ballpark then

but idk

[sharp dock]

imagine having something between a ship and a freighter, something where you can have your own tripulation

[glass flare]

oh wait. the first thing you see when turning on a new iPhone is "Hello"

[uncut harness]

Hmm

[sharp dock]

Iphone update?

[late edge]

From a thesaurus 👋 Gesturing / Greeting / Parting

salute

beckon

signal

nod

gesture

hand motion

send-off

farewell

[mint lynx]

Ah hell nah this the final update lol

[late edge]

Like a... corvette?

[uncut harness]

You dont mean to suggest this is gonna turn out to be another Waypoint 🤨

with just an ios port and some QoL

[sharp dock]

Salute : doesnt fit
Beckon : Sound like beacon
signal : goes hard, i like it

all other options seems off

[humble kayak]

agree

[glass flare]

i mean..possibly? it's what I had guessed earlier. the additions to Metal this year make porting to iOS a lot more feasible. it's earlier than I would expect though, new iphones are usually announced in september

[runic mesa]

No Man's Sky: FINE we'll let you save Artemis. They say hi.

[sharp dock]

Imagine if you could contract or recruit people at space stations

[cosmic anvil]

We already do that for the bases

Scientist, farmer etc

[humble kayak]

i'm thinking its either "Waves" "Arrival" or "Signals"

[runic mesa]

More seriously, about "waves". Isn't the VM also the Abyss and associated with water?

[glass flare]

possibly, or this is just for iOS and then a september update is the big one?

[late edge]

I cant remember. Did Sean hype up way point this way? He said before it was just a QOL update iirc

[sharp dock]

yes but imagine that but with a hypotetical corvette\

[uncut harness]

Good catch there

[mint lynx]

It could be a goodbye wave were going to lnf lol

[cosmic anvil]

Please no

[uncut harness]

that would totally align with my hunch of the vm arc conclusion leading to lnf lol

[cosmic anvil]

You're making me cry

[glass flare]

after Bacon -> Beacon -> hey settlement stuff, it's hard to put any stock in their names

[mint lynx]

How early did we get the echoes trailer same day or day before

[uncut harness]

Signals could be an option for a POI related updated perhaps. But after an update named Beacon, Signals just hits too close imo

[sharp dock]

as far as i remember HG apparently will continue developing updates even if they have to work with LNF at the same time

[sharp dock]

Arrival as name goes hard ngl

[mint lynx]

That means little by itself they could just pump out exps

[ebon spoke]

No reason to expect we wont get the trailer after the update, like usual

[grizzled apex]

update trailers always drop after the update, only the teasers have ever dropped earlier

[mint lynx]

We've gotten trailer early a few times for winter month updates I can't remember if summer has ever had any

[grizzled apex]

they've gone on record to say that they never want to do expedition only updatees though, likely after people started complaining

[grizzled apex]

we haven't

[mint lynx]

The people complain about exps but love the features and outfits they add smh it's ridiculous lol

[uncut harness]

yes HG already said that they wanna keep supporting NMS alongside LNF

so no way its gonna be something like the final update

but i also hope its not a boring Ios port

[humble kayak]

what if its not completely related

like beacons -> settlements

so NMS: Gamma

hand wave being waves

waves being radiation

[uncut harness]

hm

[humble kayak]

kind of sucks for an update name but

so does omega lmao

[uncut harness]

Omega sound a lil better than gamma

[humble kayak]

true

its not as bad because omega was the first (to my knowledge) update to use greek letters

[late edge]

When did Sean say that? I just remembered him saying that he doesn't think expedition only updates are bad because they still add new stuff

[sharp dock]

but we had a update called like that already'

[humble kayak]

I'd almost be set on Arrival

last update was essentially an autophage update even if it wasnt in title

with the autophage settlements, building pieces etc

[grizzled apex]

its in one of the post update release logs i believe, ill have to check in the morning though...

[sharp dock]

Yeah, but if the update is called like that, what could we expect?

[neon sentinel]

Hello. What if it's a pun for Halo?

[humble kayak]

The arrival of the VM, and content it brought with it from wherever it came from

[grizzled apex]

Hello -> Halo?

although that'd give a lotta people the wrong idea

[sharp dock]

no way, imagine if Halo x NMS

i could be possible cuz we had already collabs with other games such as Mass Effect

[humble kayak]

"mind telling me what you're doing chief?"

"sir, finishing this survey"

[uncut harness]

Hello --> Hello Games

[humble kayak]

peak writing btw

[glass flare]

👋 https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_US/iOS/ios-16-iphone-13-pro-setup-hello-steps.png

[uncut harness]

Eeehhh

[ebon spoke]

seems a bit obscure for an IOS port

[sharp dock]

Iphone port?
i mean, as far as i know there is a port of Death Stranding there so

[molten karma]

Its cheeky but what if it is corvette and a Halo cross over. There is an convenient ship called the corvette in Halo lmao.

[sharp dock]

that would be insane

[uncut harness]

nah

[humble kayak]

a corvette is a ship class in of itself so it may not be that

[uncut harness]

that connection is too complex

[glass flare]

obscure in what way? more than Waypoint = Switch port?

[late edge]

Thanks I believe you!

I dont think its expedition only anyways. He usually posts those on a Monday, less wait time

[ebon spoke]

the Halo Corvette doesn't really fit the textures we have, I don't think

[uncut harness]

Alien Nostromo connection here? I dont think

[grizzled apex]

Arrival made me think of the movie for a bit, but those ones clearly aren't corvette adjacent

[uncut harness]

Heh great movie but yeah

[neon sentinel]

According to Oxford dictionary, a halo is also this: a circle of white or coloured light around the sun, moon, or other luminous body caused by refraction through ice crystals in the atmosphere.

[cosmic anvil]

Clue??

[uncut harness]

Maybe its just gonna be a gesture overhaul guys

[humble kayak]

has sean ever given out clues

[late edge]

No

[humble kayak]

didnt think so

[ebon spoke]

The UNSC Corvette is definitely inspired by the design of the USS Sulaco from Aliens, which isn't the Nostromo but is a funny connection

[late edge]

He just posts the emoji again, then we get a cowboy and gib

[grizzled apex]

only completely static shots from the emergence and desolation trailers which had 0 clues

[uncut harness]

No Man's Sky: Gestures. Complete gesture overhaul with 20 new unlockable emotes!

[late edge]

Cult of lamb got a sex update before nms

Korvax

[humble kayak]

i saw that

[glass flare]

say what now

[late edge]

Typo

Autocorrect

[humble kayak]

i dont think gifs are allowed here so just imagine that one doakes gif

Anyway

so what's the consensus?

arrivals? waves?

[mint lynx]

Atleast they waited till Saturday to emoji drop
They could of dropped Thursday lol

[humble kayak]

kinda hope the update isnt more water shit

we had aquarius

worlds 1

and somewhat worlds 2

[ebon spoke]

Not sure what else they could add to the water at this point

A bigger boat?

[uncut harness]

Maybe we gettin a VR Chat

would make sense with the v tuber sponsoring

[humble kayak]

Aquarius part 2

[mint lynx]

I'd like an actual boat why not they got 4 different land cars

[zenith perch]

Mint since you're here

Didn't wanna say anything cause of no spoilers allowed in none spoiler channels but

Corvettes were datamined

[uncut harness]

Right right

[late edge]

I just need an engine to drive the one we have around

[uncut harness]

but

corvettes and waves

crew greeting?

[humble kayak]

thats why imo its gotta be Arrivals

[ebon spoke]

if they went back and made the fishing deeper by having the fish you catch be representative of the actual fauna on the planet instead of generic fish items that would be cool, but I doubt they'd go back to fishing only a year after adding it lol

[humble kayak]

The VM returning, and along with it, artifacts from an earlier iteration of the simulation

corvettes for instance

[zenith perch]

Another datamine that ThatBomberBoi did was find something called ShipBase and FriendShipBase which correlated with some entry that lets you turn your ship into a portable base

[uncut harness]

Hmmm

[humble kayak]

the setup is right there

its clear the autophage are becoming more active

[zenith perch]

Potential trade expansion update at some point

Bartering was not added for no reason

[humble kayak]

it only makes sense their god would too

[grizzled apex]

which was probably meant for the corvettes, since turning normal ships into bases doesnt make much sense tbh

[uncut harness]

Void mother stuff also a good canidate

[zenith perch]

Is there a model of them at all btw?

[runic mesa]

...this is a bad thing?

[zenith perch]

I remember when VM spoke directly to us and thanked us in In Stellar Multitudes

[grizzled apex]

nope, just a few textures, and the aforementioned ShipBase

[zenith perch]

That and the systems appearing are the two coolest things HG has done story wise

[runic mesa]

Ooh, Atlantid boat

[uncut harness]

Yeh it seems like the vm is about to fully manifest

[grizzled apex]

They Who Returned has a line which seems to indicate that WPII's return of the purple systems is the VM incarnate

[uncut harness]

which could work with the emoji

[zenith perch]

You mentioned posting a clip of something and making a testing mod earlier this year

My question

Well, one of many is

Will we get a third quest

They Who Returned, In Stellar Multitudes is a sentence

[grizzled apex]

yep, mod's on nexus and clip's on YT

[zenith perch]

maybe To Remember Her or something

[grizzled apex]

I feel like even if WPII is the functional end of the VM arc (via changes to the universe), there should be a narrative end that ties things up properly too

[zenith perch]

or They Who Returned, In Stellar Multitudes, In Rememberance

[runic mesa]

I'd definitely take a meatier followup to In Stellar Multitudes. I was disappointed it was so short.

[zenith perch]

VM did speak directly to us at the end of ISM to be fair

[uncut harness]

Hmm

I dont think everything is concluded as of yet

the VM corruption is still ongoing in regular systems too

[zenith perch]

It is beyond criminal the two soundtracks added in WP2 are used so little

They're very very good

[late edge]

Ill be honest I dont pay attention to the lore. But, did we ever get part 4 of that ARG?

[grizzled apex]

Yep! I had to rip and post those to be able to listen outside of the game, really loved the emotion they carry

[zenith perch]

Better question

Where are the atlas pass v4 they promised back in WT

[glass flare]

I would like think that "wave" means that this update will show the "wave" of consequences, good and bad, of us helping VM to birth new worlds for her. but the name will probably not mean anything substantial

[grizzled apex]

they havent stated it

[zenith perch]

No Man's Sky Waypoint

Part 2

[grizzled apex]

technically they didnt state when we got part 3 either, but its very obviously echoes

[uncut harness]

hmmm

[late edge]

All our ship stats will be in the negative

[zenith perch]

Started with singularity i believe?

[grizzled apex]

interceptor was part 1, singularity was part 2

[zenith perch]

Singularity into Echoes then WP2

4th part was wp2 then

[uncut harness]

That doesnt seems so cohisive tbh

[zenith perch]

Interceptor, Singularity, Echoes with They Who Returned, WP2 with In Stellar Multitudes

[uncut harness]

each had a...fitting name ig, except for wp2 then

[zenith perch]

Mentioned before but its a sentence, They Who Returned, In Stellar Multitudes

They [Autophage] Who Returned, In Stellar Multitudes [Many Appeared]

[glass flare]

and they have a plan

[uncut harness]

The VM goals go beyond just the autophage

[grizzled apex]

the autophage arent too involved in the plan i believe, the VM is just protective of them and sees em as her children

[humble kayak]

isnt it to reshape the galaxy, metaphorically similar to how the korvax reformed the gek with nanites

[uncut harness]

there was also talk of recreating the original creator, probably by merging all existing travellers

[grizzled apex]

Although the Singularity spectogram did saay "She sees through their eyes", so its probably not just a selfless love

[glass flare]

she wants to leave the simulation

[grizzled apex]

The Void mother declares a means of survival in the form of Null, iirc

And tries to recruit telamons from across the iterations to sacrifice their travellers

[uncut harness]

yes, ,,we are going to recreate the creator'' is also a literal line from the pillar logs iirc

[grizzled apex]

But, in WP2 and Autophage dialogue, you could swear we are the VM's plan, as a backdoor to the Atlas

[zenith perch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/345378190568587275/1334188551209877624/image.png?ex=68ab346a&is=68a9e2ea&hm=47a07254fd813f1f14a8381ca70d044c09d584711ba96ea8d9b0cf9b7cedce65&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1311&height=656

This image that bomber posted a while back is pretty interesting, wondering if this'll ever get used.

[grizzled apex]

Hell, even Null says that the Atlas prefers us over them, so itd make a lot more sense to woo us over to her side

[zenith perch]

It's not a spectrogram or anything is it?

[grizzled apex]

no just unicode spam

[uncut harness]

that is true, i wonder if hg just changed some things up or abandoned some ideas. I was hoping to see Null again tbh

[zenith perch]

Wonder if any of the new decals are hints

The "closest" would be the atomic one maybe

[grizzled apex]

And like @ebon spoke pointed out, a lot of the texture filenames and some of the textures themselves seem to hint at the Corvettes being inspired by the Nostromo from Alien. This sceentest is probably an attempt to make CRT type displays, like onboard the Nostromo

[zenith perch]

This update is one of the longest update breaks in a while

wp1 was july 2024 ish, aquarius was september, october was the cursed expedition but i can't remember if that came with an update or not, wp2 dropped then about january ish, relics was march, beacon was sometime in may (I may have dates wrong here)

So this'll have been about 3 months in the making, but probably much longer

[late edge]

Nvm

Sorry

Got it wrong lol

[uncut harness]

it might be something very chunky, most definitely unless it happens to be an ios port

[zenith perch]

Their Linkedin says that they drop updates every 6-8 weeks so this one is out of the "timeframe"

iOS port was meant to be coming at some point

[late edge]

I atleast think HG would say something. They clarified the mac release with way point was QOL

[glass flare]

well HG themselves never confirmed an iOS port was in the works. it was Apple who did that. but we do know that the company that HG contracted to do the NMS Mac port is also working on an iOS version

[late edge]

Ah okay

[uncut harness]

so yeah, with all of this i think an ios port is very viable as an option for this one, even though i hope it's not gonna be that. Gonna temper my expectations a lil for now

[mint lynx]

Yeah this update is late normally there's something in July if it's late see endurance

Hopefully that means it's big and on switch 1 too

[zenith perch]

They'll probably still have NSW1 update, just it'll be a bit restricted

If its a straight up MP update its going to be unfortunate for them, not quite sure NSW1 could run MP in this game but its not impossible I suppose.

[mint lynx]

Mp finally gets another update years later? Maybe
Doubtful but maybe

[zealous mesa]

It's... not a goodbye wave, right? I just saw it, and I popped in to make sure everyone agrees that it's not a goodbye.

[late edge]

Doubt it

[zealous mesa]

Cool.

[uncut harness]

LNF seems to be more mp focused than NMS

so if they follow the trend of bringing over LNF tech, maybe they might also improve NMS MP that way

and corvettes would add to that as well

[dense quartz]

Could be. I personally don't care for mp but I know a lot of people have been saying how broken it is and have been requesting HG to fix it.

I personally hope it gives us much better interactions with NPCs at least lol.

[mint lynx]

It's possible it's mp I mean but they left it extremely buggy and broken for what 5 years now don't seem like a priority

[runic mesa]

No Man's Sky: Catch These Hands!

...oh, my coat? How kind.

[molten karma]

What if this isn't even the emoji? I remember he did this with a heart emoji and everyone went wild than he did the actual emoji a day or two later. It was a similar setup to but I can remember what update that was for.

I could be misremembering this too

[mint lynx]

It's the emoji, were already late, an exp is loaded & google is advertising steam has a sale which means it's coming

[ebon spoke]

The heart emoji was quote tweet, unless I'm misremembering

[late edge]

I want to find out where the deaf kids are in this update

[molten karma]

Like what if he's waving just to say "yeah we're here don't worry" and than he disappears for another week or two? The patterns are still a bit odd. No sale, unusual tweeting pattern, and odd timing to say the least

[mint lynx]

Sale will be here by tm

[molten karma]

There's no sale on my end?

Man I could've cropped that a lot better lmao

[mint lynx]

I mean sales will be here by Monday i often forget I'm a day ahead lol

[ebon spoke]

steam sale starts Monday, usually yeah

[late edge]

Time travel?

[mint lynx]

Tasmanian

[late edge]

🧐

[mint lynx]

😂

[zenith perch]

Why would he

[uncut harness]

Yeah they left us sitting in silence for much longer periods in the early days lol

Only OG‘s will remember the pain…

[late edge]

The wait between atlas rises and next 😭

The atlas rises hype was nice to see. I think people returned to the game a lot sooner then its given credit for.

[mint lynx]

The game was full of false advertising and they were getting death threats now we have a consistent release Schedule and all promised features + new ones

[late edge]

Now that we look back on it, it wasn't even false advertising. Sean was just young and dumb and thought he could get all that stuff in.

[molten karma]

Everyone seems to forget the flood that destroyed a lot of progress.

[mint lynx]

I sympathize but it's still false advertising
I use Kickstarter alot and get refunded alot aha

[hard summit]

Hi guys I'm really drunk and my world just stopped because someone sent me a print of Sean posting an emoji

Is it true?

[mint lynx]

Give the gamers what you say will be in the game

[late edge]

Yes

[hard summit]

Holy shit.

[late edge]

He did in the end lol

[humble kayak]

guys i figured out what took sean so long

he was playing the BF6 beta

[molten karma]

Man I've been here since day one and honestly its kind of odd that Foundations and Pathfinder came out shortly after each other given Foundations took about 6 months from launch to get. Luckily Atlas Rises was such a good update at least in my opinion or the wait for NEXT would've been awful plus we had Waking Titan which was really fun.

[glass flare]

well he screwed up at launch for sure. but they also ran out of money and he had to take out a second mortgage on his house just to pay everyone's salaries. anyway that's ancient history, no need to rehash that

[mint lynx]

True it's awesome now
I started in 2023 omega ish but I stayed up to date on news

[ebon spoke]

except that the flood happened before they made the vast majority of undelivered promises

[molten karma]

Flood destroying build of the game Sony coming in with harsh deadlines and not letting them cook. No wonder why it launched the way it did. People always forget to blame Sony for this too. HG wanted to delay it. I'm sure they thought they would've had more time.

[humble kayak]

i think they were already in over their head even if they did delay tbh

[ebon spoke]

but yeah, no matter. They obviously care about the game and weren't going for a rug pull. If that was the plan we wouldn't have 9 years of content updates

[molten karma]

Working in the gaming space for a bit its extremely fucking harsh.

Most developers don't want to launch buggy messes but these corpos are stupid as hell.

[mint lynx]

Sony was going to buy and support HG originally they declined so Sony said fine don't miss deadline
This all old news aha

[late edge]

What i sort of still don't understand is why HG never accepted sonys offer to buy them and help on the game.

Hg could be a massive studio rn with 100s of workers.

[uncut harness]

I was enjoying 1.0 a lot, it probably would have went differently had I been on the Internet more. I didn‘t follow the interviews too much, my expectations were the trailers which in terms of vibe the game mostly lived up to.

The Internet simply ruins stuff. Had that experience with Starfield. Enjoyed it, started reading reviews, noticed „flaws“ I never cared about and dropped it. Only to return and enjoy it later on.

[glass flare]

they literally had no more money left, they couldn't delay it unless they took outside funding, which would mean losing control of the game's future. Sean didn't want to do that so he threw the dice instead

[late edge]

Im that way with star wars outlaws, starfield too. Wonderful games. But, internet is loud

[humble kayak]

HG could be a massive studio rn with 100s of workers.

I wonder if sean just

doesn't want a big studio like that

HG has two locations, and only like 50 people in total

they very well have the money to expand exponentially

and they haven't

that tells me there's intent behind it

[molten karma]

If they were bought by Sony they'd probably be making Concord 2. 💩

[uncut harness]

Outlaws has become such a gem now after the performance fixes but people still cluelessly memeing it, oh well this is gettin off-topic

[glass flare]

well, Sean worked at EA (he worked on Burnout 3). I think he's spoken on how that colored his experiences of big game studios

[mint lynx]

Starfield being so bad is why I play NMS at all
I figured might as well try this next aha

[late edge]

Ah, yeah true. He got tired of making the same sequels

[molten karma]

The only true G in gaming platforms is Steam and our lord and savior Gabe Motherfucking Newell. Every console and other publisher is just pure ass. All the games are crap and rushed, uninspired, and just want to milk you for all your money. Don't get me wrong Gabe does too but at least the games are generally good.

[glass flare]

the ship building in Starfield looked kinda neat, wouldn't mind something like that in NMS

[late edge]

What i liked in starfield is that different companies make different ships and weapons. And they each have their own unique feel.

We sorta got that in nms. But it would be cool if the gek manufacturers had this stuff, and others had these etc

[glass flare]

yeah I always wanted more worldbuilding around the societies of the races

[late edge]

They could have grahgrah industries ships or something idk lol

[uncut harness]

Starfield is in many ways a superior game, I dream of creature behavior like it has in NMS. For the record, both are my fav games besides the KOTOR franchise.

[mint lynx]

🤔

[glass flare]

also if the Sentinels smashed the civilizations of these races, how are they able to still build spaceships and such

[mint lynx]

You can't build freighters what's exists is all that's left and that one technology

[uncut harness]

Its also super interesting how different game reception is internationally. In China Starfield is widely considered a masterpiece

[glass flare]

just fyi the mods frown on discussing other games in any channel than #other-games

[late edge]

Oops

Has hello games sponsored creators like this before?

[glass flare]

I think they did last year

[ebon spoke]

They've done it three or four times before now

The same deal every time, giving creators affiliate links to the NMS homepage

[late edge]

Thanks

[ebon spoke]

Also, (though obviously we just got an emoji) the sponsorships thing seems to just be something they like doing around this time of year. It doesn't have anything to do with an upcoming update because previous times it's been weeks after the summer update

[humble kayak]

hyped for corvettes but there's a real chance they may not be in this update

given the wave

[mint lynx]

Space racing got data mined too

[uncut harness]

It did?

In that case…

[humble kayak]

Yeah but it didn't have already made textures

[uncut harness]

Maybe this could turn out to be a wider space update after all

[late edge]

I genuinely hope so. Give us new things to do.

[humble kayak]

i don't think they'd go through the trouble of texturing stuff and making a screentest for analogue monitors if they werent gonna go through with it

[late edge]

Depends on when theyre ready to put it out though. Maybe a bunch of workers were making space related things and HG decided to combine it like they did beyond

[humble kayak]

true

[molten karma]

Already with the doom speculation lol

[mint lynx]

I would say it's valid in this case a wave is a hello & a goodbye

[glass flare]

yeah as soon as I saw the wave I knew people would be doomposting about this

[molten karma]

Nah Hello Games already stated they were gonna support NMS alongside Light No Fire. It came from Sean himself so its not valid.

[late edge]

Was it that omega symbol last time people thought the game was ending?

[humble kayak]

think so

[ebon spoke]

Yeah, people also thought there was going to be only four more updates after Echoes because of this Omega tweet

[gloomy isle]

All I can seem to think of here is maybe something void mother related?

We let her in this year and she's yet to reach out to us or vice versa

Starting to think it might not be corvettes though that's for sure

[humble kayak]

I still dont think void mother stuff and corvettes need to be mutually exclusive

the VM has access to stuff from older iterations of the simulation

that is proven by the gas giants

and the dissonant systems

[gloomy isle]

That's true

[humble kayak]

heres how i think of it, metaphorically

[gloomy isle]

I'm just trying to think of what the title could be from the hint, or if it might be to do with the themes

[humble kayak]

and from my limited lore knowledge

[gloomy isle]

It's a difficult one ngl

[humble kayak]

There is a wall that seperates us from the void mother

But the wall has weak points

so far the VM has communicated with us sometimes by just talking through the wall, or by sending signs

This update may be the void mother breaking a hole in the wall

and coming through

content could come with the VM, like debris from the other side of the wall being pushed through as the VM emerges

hence, corvettes and the like

boundary failures are already an established thing too

[gloomy isle]

That happened at the end of worlds part 2

It ends with her speaking to us directly

Hm what about

Enclave

[dense quartz]

I can't wait for someone to post about the 2017 unlisted video and claim it's the new trailer that's about to go public.
Also someone will say how HG changed their Youtube banner to show the new update even though it's been there since 2016.
Happens. Every. Single. Update.

[humble kayak]

I mean

Arrivals could work as both a multiplayer and/or social update and a lore expansion thing

I'm not particularly confident on that though

[gloomy isle]

Arrivals/ arrival could work yeah

This is a massive reach, but

Waves= hello

Hello Games

HG

Mercury (in reference to the mercury process from waking titan)

[mint lynx]

That's their own fault this image implied omega will be last lol

Then omega came and it sucked lol
Heavily carried by the rewards

[dusty phoenix]

So like

telamon is the voice in your suit yeah

is the male voice someone else

[inner frost]

Yup

[inner frost]

Nah

Telamon is technically your suit

The voice is just a method of communication

It can assume many forms

[glass flare]

it's not the physical suit, it's just the AI in your suit

[dusty phoenix]

I literally never heard the male voice in my life up until 10 minutes ago

didn't even know it exists

[runic mesa]

Because it didn't exist until Beacon

[mint lynx]

Most people I know we're just happy to turn it off finally, lol

[dusty phoenix]

Just feels weird to me like the default voice IS telamon to me

I'm sure I'm lookin too far into this but

I tried out the male voice and "who the hell is this guy??"

low grumbly, almost tactician voice compared to the usual flat robot

[runic mesa]

Me: Hey, Telamon, you ever considered a different voice?
Telamon: ...why not, ok.

[dusty phoenix]

I injected telamon with the gender fluid

I think I'll keep it the male voice for a while for a change of pace. Fem Telamon talks to me like a secretary not quite paying attention. "Energy recharged -_- " yeah thanks

Male telamon speaks to me like they're guiding me through a warzone meanwhile

[runic mesa]

I just wish the male voice would speak just a little slower, is all.

[gloomy isle]

Reminds me a bit of soundwave

[humble kayak]

male telamon cod announcer when

[dusty phoenix]

female voice, male voice

[runic mesa]

Now wrong lol

[sharp dock]

so, the hand means...

[runic mesa]

Knowing Sean? Could mean anything lol

[frigid valley]

It means whatever play on words Sean came up with that in some way relates to the update

[rancid flax]

well yes but thats the boring answer

let the speculation run wild lol

[late edge]

What if you opened the update page and just saw a pic of you. Sean mind blown meme

[humble kayak]

well.

now we wait

[glass flare]

ok hear me out... what if the corvette isn't for space, what if it's a submarine

[humble kayak]

i'll cry

i'd think its the dumbest thing ever because NMS is a space game first and foremost

[glass flare]

yeah i was just trying to think what they could do to justify another water-themed update

[ebon spoke]

Had that thought too, thing is that of the three corvette texture folders, two are in the spacecraft directory and one is in the space directory

[late edge]

Im thinking its a space update. They'll give the space biome that worlds part 2 underwater glow up and corvettes will be how we get to that new content. Maybe deep space is too much on our regular ships life support

[glass flare]

what if it's an NPC update...

[late edge]

Maybe!

In what way?

[glass flare]

I was just vibing on the "hello" aspect, maybe deeper conversations, more sophisticated missions, NPCs in combat, ability to gain personal standing with individual NPCs... things like that. make them feel more like unique characters with their own goals

[late edge]

That would be good.

What id like is for NPC to have combat added. Maybe they have bases on planets and you get into fire fights

Idk if that fits with how chill nms is tho

[glass flare]

yeah I would love that too. ground-based pirate bases, maybe even roaming gangs of them who use vehicles Mad Max style. but yeah I don't know if HG wants to take things that direction

[humble kayak]

That tells me they're committed to it

but if there's one thing I should've learned from the last two and a half weeks

is that you shouldnt make any assumptions with HG

[late edge]

Just assume the update will be a big Ole dud.

Then you wont be disappointed by whatever it is

[humble kayak]

yeah i can't do that

I've tried

i'm the kind of person that'll mentally speculate all the way up to the launch trailer and I really can't help it lol

[dusty phoenix]

The hand is to slap me. thats what it means.

[late edge]

I get it, same 😅

[safe quarry]

Oooh emoji speculation time! As much as I hope it is the corvette update, I think its better to assume not so you're pleasantly surprised if it is. Also I don't think its another water update, i mean 'Wave' could as easily be a sinewave.

I think I'm in the 'no man's sky: arrival' camp, could be the arrival of the void mother now we've given them the backdoor entry in WP2

I'm sure the leap of logic that has already been discussed here is 'hello > halo > ringworlds' but we already discussed those earlier this month.

[mint lynx]

I've been waiting for better ring worlds

[cosmic anvil]

Technology recharged 🥰

Technology recharged 🗿

[safe quarry]

It's a stretch but it could be an immersion update that's going to add first person details like visible hands and new animations to multitools?

[mint lynx]

I reckon it's a NPC update what they do everytime they see you at a poi, wave

[safe quarry]

I mean i've been advocating for a POI update for so long that'll i'll take any excuse for the wave emoji to mean POIs and npcs on planets.

[mint lynx]

The new terrian is almost wasted on old POIs it's a conundrum

It's summer update time which have always been big too

Well

Almost always

Sometimes it's small and the next one's big lol

[safe quarry]

hehe i don't know why i dont get the feeling of fanfare for a big summer update, because whilst Echoes got a name drop and all sorts ahead of time, WP1 was like this with just a small emoji drop, and that was a huge deal.

[humble kayak]

see if its VM coming then it becomes a lot easier for me to believe that stuff like corvettes might be coming with it too

but i'm beating a dead horse on that argument

[safe quarry]

So there's really no reason for this not to be the big summer update.

[humble kayak]

i have no question about it, its got to be the summer update

[safe quarry]

yes I really hope its corvettes too, but i'm trying not to set myself up for disappointment ^.^

[humble kayak]

unless we're in for one in november lol

and thats not summer

[safe quarry]

so I'm going to spend these next 3 days chasing theories that its not

[humble kayak]

nor is it a time where we get updates

[humble kayak]

not much to speculate on tbh

[safe quarry]

exactly. After 'beacons' ended up being settlements part 2, a wave emoji is anyones guess.

[mint lynx]

I feel like beacons was only put out to put something out but I'm a a1 settlement hater

It peak gimmick era lol

[humble kayak]

idk what a wave would be aside from arrivals

[mint lynx]

I think it's a NPC update but I hope for a poi update

[humble kayak]

now this might be a naive comment

being ive only been following NMS for a year

well, actively following anyway

but why couldn't it be an update with several "flagship" features

now I don't mean like four massive "their own update" type things

[safe quarry]

for a big summer update, it can be all sorts

[humble kayak]

but one key feature and several smaller things w/ it

[safe quarry]

beyond was a collection of things. while the flagship was VR and the anomaly, it actually added a lot of unrelated features

the whole electrical wiring and powering systems came with beyond, and most of the functional base parts like the auto feeders too.

[ebon spoke]

Beyond was three separate updates in a trench coat - the VR stuff, the online stuff and then the rest. They actually said in an interview leading up to it's release that they were all planned as separate updates but the teams working on them kept interweaving the features together until there wasn't really a way for them to work without all three coming out at once.

Not to kill the hype, but summer updates can be smaller too, Endurance was a freighter and space update, Frontiers was just settlements

[humble kayak]

true

Though, counterpoint,

we're well past the usual release window for updates

Either this one's going to be chock-full of bug fixes or it'll have a good bit of content

but that extra time was needed for a reason, I'm sure of that

[ebon spoke]

True. Frontiers took longer than expected too, but despite being a relatively niche feature, it was still very technically complex and so took some time to get optimised I'm sure.

[humble kayak]

this is kind of a "no shit" moment, but, we'll find out what it is in a few days

until then speculation is just that

speculation

[mint lynx]

Endurance was awesome to be fair, people make dope space freighter builds even today

It may sound hypocritical that I like a gimmick Era update when trashing another, but who doesn't like a freighter

[humble kayak]

me, while I'm plotting the lore reasons for abandoning my freighter + fleet for a corvette

[mint lynx]

You can get rid of your freighter once you own one ?

[humble kayak]

no

not yet anyway

but i'd like to

[safe quarry]

I would argue when you cut it down to its parts too, Echoes in terms of content was on a par with endurance.

[humble kayak]

if theres no way to do it in the update, which I have no reason to think we will, i'll just

[safe quarry]

The new autophage models, staffs, and a new POI (which i actually think came in the update before.)

[humble kayak]

dismantle my fleet and never summon the freighter

[safe quarry]

is really all it was, with a quest to tie it all together

Endurance actually arguably was more 'work' to develop

[ebon spoke]

Echoes and Singularity are kinda the same update in my mind 😅

[safe quarry]

since it was a whole new tileset, all the space updates with asteroids etc. In terms of man power i would say the two were on a par for effort

[ebon spoke]

TBF rereading the patch notes for Endurance, it was bigger than I remember. The space stuff is something you interact with a lot too

[safe quarry]

so I would expect something in line with those

your point about beyond explains why it felt a bit more wider in scope than other big summer updates

they do usually tend to laser focus on one particular area of attention

but since we know how their development process works, that makes sense

every team has a project to focus on and the only thing that differentiates them is how much runway they're allocated

from a couple of months to I think 6 months being the longest? or a year? would have to dig out the interview with sean

[uncut harness]

I‘m not expecting anything for now cause it could just end up being the iOS port

Did we get new posts btw?

[mint lynx]

You gotta question why they haven't done an ios port yet its only a hop skip and a jump from a Mac port

[late edge]

@mint lynx what is the gimmick era

[mint lynx]

All the gimcky stuff, it's not inherently bad stuff I like the robots

[late edge]

Ah yeah ik what you mean. The updates adding tons of new crap 😅

[mint lynx]

You probally started playing nms after the gimck Era if I remember what you said earlier correctly

[late edge]

Day 1 actually lol

I was so hyped for this game. It was all I could think of in 2016

[mint lynx]

Then how don't you know what I'm talking about lol

[safe quarry]

I don't think its that. Beacons was a rough time for them in terms of player good will, i think two updates back to back that are 'we're doing another port but here's a commiseration prize for the rest of you' would be bad business.

[late edge]

I don't think of the updates in eras lol

[late edge]

The latest update was bad for them? Why

[uncut harness]

So i think the gimmicky era is referring to the time we got updates which added mostly „superficial“ content, resulting in the „wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle“ description for NMS, cuz there‘s lots of small systems/mini games which felt non cohesive.

But not sure myself tbh. I was „only“ active from launch up until Origins and then came back for Omega eventually.

[late edge]

What made you come back?

[uncut harness]

Idk tbh. Could have been caused by Starfield which came out a few months prior and after burning out on it I was looking for a another similar space experience again

In any case I‘m glad that I did come back and NMS has easily reclaimed its place as my „main game“ basically, even if i sometimes appear discontent with some of it

[mint lynx]

I'm glad I finally started playing when I did, alot of good rewards in 2024

[uncut harness]

Yes though I started a normal regular save again cause the sense of progression is the best in early game NMS, and Omega took that away from me I felt like with all the rewards.

Plus I wanted to start out in an undiscovered system like back in the day

[uncut harness]

Beacon kinda niche, apparently many players don‘t engage with Settlements at all/dislike them

And it was buggy as heck tbh

[ebon spoke]

not to mention the platform that doesn't even have settlements

all the Switch 1 players got were some new building parts.

[mint lynx]

It still had settlement related bugs though my bases were bugged forever

[uncut harness]

A updates finally on the way very nice, shame it's on the late side now so we likely won't get another before reruns

[safe quarry]

I floated this idea a bit ago, but with the 'hello' emoji it might have legs. It could be a commerce update? Being able to share holograms of your multi-tools and ships for people to 'buy' a clone of them at your base, letting you turn your bases into a business? And that could obviously be just one idea of many that could make up a commerce update?

Could have a ship vendor at stations that sell that system's pool of ships at an inflated price vs buying it from the pilot direct?

That way ship hunters can still sit at trade outposts for hours waiting for their ship to arrive, but you could cut the queue and buy it from the vendor at the station.

I remember using a mod that added a multitool vendor who would stock a wall of multitools, and it was honestly more fun than you would think. It was like going into a shop and getting to peruse all the things on display ^.^

[safe quarry]

Only thing is that would make an exotic landing a less special event, unless they're excluded from the ship vendor.

A tech that you can place at a base that opens it up for NPCs to spawn as ambience? Pathfinding might be an issue, but if you put together a lot of new idle animations you could have them just teleport in, meander and look 'busy' then teleport out. That would be good for making your base shops feel busy.

Altho i think for a commerce update, he'd have used a different emoji, so perhaps not.

[cosmic anvil]

Good afternoon from a sunny Scandinavia, sooo any update?? 🥺

[grizzled apex]

Emoji: 👋

Nothing else yet, sales will probably start on Monday w/ a Wednesday drop

[cosmic anvil]

Okay at least something lol

[uncut harness]

There‘ll be waves of new content (hopefully) soon

[icy citrus]

50 new emotes

[misty pollen]

I hope they'll do some QoL stuff 🥺

I've been building up a settlement for a couple days now and it just feels like an endless grind with no reward so far

[native carbon]

🪬

[icy citrus]

I like you Fi, but I am hoping for a Tuesday release

[native carbon]

Why

[icy citrus]

I like people losing their pacts

[native carbon]

But ima be sad

[icy citrus]

😦

[dense quartz]

..Here's hoping the new update will fix wanted level not reducing. That really drags down the experience.

[uncut harness]

Yeah that’s super duper annoying

[cosmic anvil]

@humble kayak is still with their Cinder was right username 😂

[runic mesa]

Since the emoji tends to tease the name rather than the content these days. Going to go with Waves or Arrival and a VM themed new storyline or expedition.

[gloomy isle]

I would be so incredibly hyped if it was Arrival

[late tusk]

Arrival: The First spawn returns from a distant system. hidden from everyone until now.
System war overhaul.
First spawn ships.
new appearance items
own a space station

[gloomy isle]

Fleet based content would work pretty well with the void mother arriving maybe

[cosmic anvil]

Wait this is the actual emoji??? 👋

[gloomy isle]

Yeah

[cosmic anvil]

Ohhhh..
I actually expected this channel to explode when it came out but it's awfully quiet in here 🤔

Or did I miss the party?

[grizzled apex]

It did when it dropped last night, comparivitely 😅

[cosmic anvil]

aww so I missed it saddd

so what are the leading theories... I see a lot of Arrival refs which makes sense?

[grizzled apex]

I'm still set on it being a tease of the name and not the content, so Waves, Arrival, Contact, Halo are all pretty good guesses.

After beacon though, the name doesn't need to carry a strong correlation to the content imo

[gloomy isle]

Arrival would make story sense and potentially fit with some sort of fleet stuff, which the corvettes might be a part of (big if on those rn though)

[grizzled apex]

Well if they're not in there, hope they leave more unused bits for em in the update haha

Still hoping for a VM update, just going off Expedition 19 <=> VM link

[cosmic anvil]

sorry but what is VM? 😅 virtual machine?

[grizzled apex]

Void Mother / Atlantid / Abyss

[cosmic anvil]

ohh rightt

yeah we haven't heard from her for a long time right?

[grizzled apex]

WP2 had her talk directly to us, but no grand conclusion yet

Unless that's all they planned...

[gloomy isle]

Oh for sure! Personally I'm torn between them being one part of this update and them being a standalone thing like the new stations

Didn't cursed hint that there's something lurking behind the portal network? Not the void mother but entities living there

I could swear they were supposedly related to the squid head you could unlock

[grizzled apex]

It had a lot of references to the world of glass, and the voices / boundary horrors were said to be crossing over from there

[cosmic anvil]

Imagine the update introduces new emotes and that is it 😭

[uncut harness]

Families of glass

We know of those sind abandoned buildings tbh

Tho not what they are exactly

[grizzled apex]

Hell, I think the patch notes mentioned that it took place in a reality "in between" the world of glass and the main simulation

[grizzled apex]

The mandibles Desc hinted that whatever's inside the world of glass looks like that

[gloomy isle]

Imo this is the most fitting idea for what something called arrival might entail

Especially since we're yet to see much impact from the void mother arriving

[uncut harness]

I like the cursed jetpack, it makes a water sound lol

The trail i mean

[grizzled apex]

A continuation to the world of glass storyline would work perfectly w/ the void mother arriving since she's been gathering herself in there

[gloomy isle]

Could also fit with some fleet based content too, just saying 😂

[uncut harness]

Uh is that an item, from liquidators or what?

Or the chtuhlu thing?

I need to look this up

Ah so its the cursed mask

Damn if the things in the world of glass look like that I can‘t picture them being friendly beings…

I never took a close look at the boundary horrors we fight in the Expedition, anybody can confirm if the model also has teeth on it like the mask?

[gloomy isle]

They're a seperate model iirc

There's hints that there's something else besides the boundary horrors between the world of glass and our plane

[uncut harness]

I‘m hungry for some more Horror content suddenly lol

I wanna go on an uhm

Crusade against horror thingies! But that chance blew with Liquidators…

[dense quartz]

System war overhaul would be awesome.
Especially since Beacon showed us it's possible to influence a system's economy. Imagine being able to make a system either peaceful or hostile.

It'd add depth to existing stuff like space station missions or something influencing the system's war stat. 😄

[uncut harness]

Yeah cuz rn people will just skip high conflict systems

[dense quartz]

I'm still waiting for them to make use of what Omega added where you can either accept or reject that Atlas.
The patch notes made it a big deal where "your choice will permanently change the relationship with the Atlas" but like, all you get is just a different item lol.

[grizzled apex]

The Mark of the Denier Vs Remembrance is a pretty big nothingburger so far, but the choice does result in different dialogue in In Stellar Multitudes 🤷

[dense quartz]

Oh I didn't know that!

Yeah I keep expecting them to eventually add content that'll only be available based on the choice you made.

Though I also think the way you make the choice doesn't really feel significant in the moment, like it might give the impression to a lot of people that if you deny it, you're just quitting the dialogue and can come back to accept it later lol.

[gloomy isle]

A good thing to do would be giving players a chance to maybe change their alignment at the beginning of the quest

Through doing some sort of optional step

Imo at least

[runic mesa]

Maybe we'll see a glimpse of the World of Glass, or at least a return of The Cursed's boundary hazard mechanic.

But yeah, I'm all into the VM storyline continuation hopium.

Expedition 16 was Atlas themed, 19 should be VM themed.

[uncut harness]

I want to finally enter the World of glass myself

[cosmic anvil]

and exactly how would HG accomplish this??