nms-spoilers

[wind panther]

Maybe just convergent naming?

[cobalt siren]

PC is almost always #1

[hard stirrup]

exo mech trailer got leaked early by the Xbox youtube channel lol.

[wind panther]

Yeah, I think one other did more recently

[sour fossil]

Material leaks happened often

Desolation title leaked on Xbox

Origins video leaked on MS Store

[wind panther]

Xbox seems somewhat porous 🙂

[cobalt siren]

Microsoft aren't good at handling private stuff

[sour fossil]

Utopia leaked on Xbox as well

[cobalt siren]

Apparently

[hard stirrup]

No, it's about 50/50 with playstation.

[analog breach]

HG posts update trailer on hgtube first imo

[wind panther]

Do we have any reliable player numbers across platforms at any point in time?

[somber rampart]

is there any image leaks for the update

[cobalt siren]

Ps5 I'd hope becsuse I pray that they drop ps4 at some point to keep the game moving into the future

[wind panther]

Yeah, tons, because most of the update is on experimental 😛

[hard stirrup]

Ehh..their trailer drops are almost always after at least one platform has the update...most of the time both Steam and PlayStation have the update before trailer drop unless someone else leaks it first.

[somber rampart]

[dense quartz]

There's apparently a logo in the game files "No Man's Sky O M E G A"

[wind panther]

Yeah, I can get you the file if you want, but FF already posted it

[somber rampart]

interesting

[wind panther]

The expedition was named Omega, and the image file supports it

[cobalt siren]

Has there ever been an expedition with the same name as the update

[wind panther]

Likely a reference to the end of the Atlantid mother storyline, but that's just my opinion

[sour fossil]

Credits ofc to @wind panther

[dense quartz]

I heard that the update is gonna be called that while the actual expedition name will be "Starseeds" or something.

[somber rampart]

thanks gumsk

[sour fossil]

Starseeds shows up in all non-English translations

[hard stirrup]

I think a couple of times we had updates that were just a new expedition so that was the case but I don't remember which right now.

[sour fossil]

(at least the ones I can read directly)

[cobalt siren]

Honestly I really hope it releases today because I want to play it. But I understand why theyd choose to delay it

[wind panther]

I agree, happened before, but can't give citations

Yeah, very likely not today

don't stay up late for it 🙂

[cobalt siren]

I won't, I live in the UK so

[somber rampart]

[cobalt siren]

I'm on their tinesoneb

Timezone

[somber rampart]

im keeping tabs on the microsoft store

[cobalt siren]

12:19 pm for me rn

[jade abyss]

i found the system on the pic with the black hole in it but my map does not show it

[wind panther]

I keep London timezone on my windows clocks for them. I used to keep it for forex trading, but I keep it for them 🙂

[jade abyss]

as symbol for the black hole

[flat jetty]

I need this rn Sean

[cobalt siren]

Has the experimental expedition ended yet

[somber rampart]

in a few hours

[dense quartz]

Does this text refer to the total game size and the size of the update?
Cause I don't think we've ever had an update that was bigger than 8 GB.

[wind panther]

No

[hard stirrup]

Man, can you imagine Sean lurking around here? How awesome would that be. But probably not.

[wind panther]

Those are steam build ids

[cobalt siren]

Maybe it serves as a countdown for the update?
Some meta stuff would be cool

[somber rampart]

it would be cool is he in the server

[wind panther]

Steam increments those across ALL games on steam

[dense quartz]

He does actually lurk around. At least he tweeted a screenshot of this server once.

[wind panther]

so they don't even relate to NMS

[jade abyss]

@prime inlet thank you for the pic i found it in that system but no symbol on the map

[somber rampart]

wow

[wind panther]

Yeah, some of the staff watch some of the servers sometimes. There have been hints they even see the modding discord server sometimes, but I doubt it's consistent or reliable, and definitely not a standard protocol

[cobalt siren]

I think they're talking about the hilighted part

The 13 gb

[somber rampart]

[hard stirrup]

He might have got the screenshot posted by someone else on twitter or something...he usually does that.

[dense quartz]

Yeah, the highlighted text.

[wind panther]

That's the buildid, not the size

oh, the higher highlighted part

[cobalt siren]

Total size on disk is 14.22 gb?

[wind panther]

both are highlighted and start with 13 🙂

[cobalt siren]

Ohhhh

[wind panther]

Updates have been far less than that for experimental, if that helps

[dense quartz]

I'm asking if the 14.22 GB is the total game size and the 13.51 the size of the update. 😅

[wind panther]

Standard update size is around 6 to 8 gb I think, compressed

[cobalt siren]

I'm almost certain nms is larger than 13 gb

[somber rampart]

no mine is massive i dont have the number but my nms is MASSIVE

[cobalt siren]

Nms gotta be at least 30 gb

[analog breach]

Size changes with platform

[wind panther]

Do you want the compressed or uncompressed size?

[dense quartz]

Yeah that's why the 13 GB thing confuses me, I don't think we've had to download an update that was bigger than 8 GB before.

[cobalt siren]

The map itself is procedural but the assets the generator uses probably combine to at least 30 gigs

Oh damn

[analog breach]

Hg can take all my drive space for updates

[cobalt siren]

Guess I'm wrong

[somber rampart]

yeah fr

[dense quartz]

The total game is around 12-14 GB. I think it was around 10 GB on launch.
Quite insane how small the game is compared to what you can do in it heh.

[cobalt siren]

How tf did they squeeze nms into less than 15 gb

That's a miracle

[somber rampart]

what do you think the main themem of the update is gonna b e

[prime inlet]

nice 🙂 have fun

[wind panther]

procgen

[cobalt siren]

Lore

[somber rampart]

fair

[sour fossil]

Magic and lots of math

[wind panther]

Yes, math

[somber rampart]

ooh

i hate me some math

[cobalt siren]

I think it will tie up the Atlantid arc and introduce a few new game mechanics

[wind panther]

What they lack in programming consistency and standards they make up for in math knowledge, or maths for the Brits

[cobalt siren]

Maths yeah

I always wondered why ppl drop the S. It's mathematics not mathematic

[wind panther]

I haven't really come down on math or maths as an objectively correct form, but I think color is better and aluminium is better

[somber rampart]

||||

[cobalt siren]

I always spell aluminium as aluminium but colour stays as colour for me

[dense quartz]

It's mostly Korvax themed so... I'm hoping we get another multi-part theme for Gek.
Imagine remnants of the First Spawn hiding around like the Autophage, except they're just hostile towards you.

[wind panther]

aluminium matches naming standards. Colour doesn't really accomplish anything

I think any other races will be future story arcs. This will wrap up the Korvax related story

[somber rampart]

yeah i would love to beat up some gek

[cobalt siren]

Americans changed up the English language a bit. It's spelled colour here just because its always been that way

[wind panther]

Congrats

[dense quartz]

I'd love to beat up the First Spawn, not the current poor Gek.

[somber rampart]

is this related to the topic

[cobalt siren]

I don't think it's better or worse it's jus kinda like that

[somber rampart]

yeah i feel bad for the gek

[wind panther]

Poor current gek

and protogek

[cobalt siren]

The current gek are far from poor

[wind panther]

touche

[somber rampart]

yeah my protogek said "imagine having own planet"

[cobalt siren]

Also I think they deserve what happened to them

Because they were murderous and territorial in a way the others weren't and didn't ask for

[somber rampart]

yeah and what they did to the korvax

[cobalt siren]

Yup. I think it's just simple vengeance

[dense quartz]

The Gek deserve what happened to them, but I don't think the current Gek deserve to be punished for something their iteration hasn't done.
It's even touched on in the main story, a Gek doesn't want to think about their history and just wants to keep his head down and trade.

[past shuttle]

I wish I could shut off the hype center of my brain

[cobalt siren]

The only reason they didn't do what their ancestors did is because of the Nanites

[somber rampart]

where did Harry come from

[past shuttle]

Anyone else get an extremely unpleasant feeling from not knowing aha

[past shuttle]

Some large explosion about 13.8 billion years ago

[somber rampart]

buy making the atlas buy geknip

same

[cobalt siren]

Not possible because we're built to anticipate good things

[wind panther]

I don't think anything inside the simulation can prevent the 16 minutes outside the simulation

[dense quartz]

Only thing I'm bothered over is not 100% knowing if overhauled space stations are coming in this update or not.
Literally don't care about anything else lol.

[somber rampart]

they will

[wind panther]

Just assume they won't. I think that's most likely

[somber rampart]

nuh uh

[cobalt siren]

I highly doubt HG PR department would let them not release stations this update

[past shuttle]

I'm just telling myself it's only the expedition

[somber rampart]

i think its probable they will

[wind panther]

And I'm 80% right 75% of the time

[somber rampart]

oh

[past shuttle]

Anything else is a bonus I guess

[somber rampart]

nah they have to come

[wind panther]

Stations will come, but not this week

[cobalt siren]

Wait do ppl actually think we're not getting stations

[somber rampart]

we are

[wind panther]

I think we aren't

Want to make a pact?

[cobalt siren]

Why would we get the ship shown in the teaser but not the stations

[dense quartz]

Expedition and pirate freighter owning is basically 100% coming tomorrow.
And a random ass new chart that points to buried ruins for.. some reason?

[wind panther]

Because it's a trailer for the year, not for one update?

[dense quartz]

Oh and Atlas Path extra content.

[cobalt siren]

Maybe they plan to do more with treasure or smthn

[somber rampart]

if in the teaser the expedition reward was there in the stations its probable that they are

[civic badge]

the trailer didn't specify it was for the next patch, pretty sure it was for the next year

[somber rampart]

meh

just my opinion

[wind panther]

Yeah, trailer wasn't "Omega patch, Coming Valentine's Day, with EVERYTHING IN THIS VIDEO"

[ripe verge]

found

weird

crystal

[dense quartz]

Hopefully they fixed being able to interact with EVERYTHING through the ground. You can literally unlock and collect everything through the ground without digging lol.

[cobalt siren]

It wasn't no, but it showed the pirate freighter and new ship, which are both confirmed to be coming

[somber rampart]

yeah

[cobalt siren]

So it makes sense to conclude that the stations will probably also come

[somber rampart]

yep

[wind panther]

Not really 🙂

[cobalt siren]

Besides I'm pretty sure HG want to release them as much as we want them anyway

[somber rampart]

yeah

[civic badge]

I think it's only fair to say the expedition is coming, we don't actually know the pirate freighter is (though i would be shocked if it didnn't)

[somber rampart]

and if they come racing will

[cobalt siren]

The old stations are starting to look dated compared to the new content

[dire drum]

No, we know they’ll come

[wind panther]

Racing has been in the files for several years

[somber rampart]

yeah

[cobalt siren]

I had a dream abt nms ship racing

[wind panther]

They might add it, but don't expect it

[somber rampart]

but it was a terminal in the new stations

[dense quartz]

Use the scanner to see where treasure is, walk up to it... and get it.
No need to dig at all.
Works for bones, buried ruins, crashed freighter loot.. everything. You just walk up to it as close as you can and you can interact with it.

[somber rampart]

and there is a gek racer on the starborn runner

[wind panther]

Yeah, that's the only reason I have to suspect they might actually do something with it finally,

[somber rampart]

so im heavily leaning on this being implemented

[wind panther]

You shouldn't

This is like the LNF reddit channel

don't expect anything

[somber rampart]

fair

[dense quartz]

The one on the right in the teaser? I just assume it's for exocrafts. Since you use those less often than exosuit or starships, which is why those two are at the center of the station.

[wind panther]

Eh, but racing flags? That's not really exocraft related

Seems to hint to races

[somber rampart]

yeah

[wind panther]

But until I see some implementation in the files, I won't expect it...yet

[civic badge]

isn't exocraft the only racing related live content atm?

as it has checkpoint tech

[wind panther]

Yes

But space racing stuff has been in the files for a long time

[civic badge]

Sorry I think I'm having a hard time following chat, a lot being said and not a lot of context between next patch, future patch and speculation

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wind panther]

hah, that would fit NMS and LNF, yes

Assume it's all speculation until it releases to public

Any specific questions?

We can give what we think and you can pick who you believe

[civic badge]

Why people are speaking factually about future content when only HG have these kind of facts

[wind panther]

hehe

I think you understand perfectly well

[civic badge]

I respect there has been some level of pattern in the past, but it can lead to let down when people state as a fact instead of making it clear it's speculation

[wind panther]

You are hereby christened a member of the Gumsk School of HG Skepticism

[late tusk]

Factions that actually mean something when

[ripe verge]

would like

to

[sour fossil]

We mod authors go through a phase of "I got this cool idea, why hasn't anyone implemented it yet?" to "really, I can't do X or Y?"

[ripe verge]

report a bug

[wind panther]

Socrates was the wisest (man) in Athens because he knew he knew nothing

man in () because sexist

[late tusk]

One day sean will say hi to us on discord

[dense quartz]

"Hello main character. What's that? You blew up most of my people and now you want me to join your fleet? Sure, why not. What's that, you also want to sell me 999999 items worth of dirt? Sure! How could I possibly refuse! I even somehow have the units to pay for it!"

[somber rampart]

i mean your talking ab the same guy that ran down the road screaming naked

[late tusk]

:)

[wind panther]

We know nothing about future releases. We can guess, but we're only guessing

[sour fossil]

Just because we can find the breadcrumbs, doesn't mean we get the sandwiches for the lunch

There, now where is my badge of philisophy?

[wind panther]

I think that wwas Archimedes?

[somber rampart]

right here 🏅

[dense quartz]

More type of toppings and tastes are good when adding to a pizza.
But I want the dough of the pizza to be cooked more.

[dire drum]

Badge? I think you’re ready for a degree

[wind panther]

I wish my doctorate were in philosophy so I could argue that I could confer degrees on others, but it's not

In some martial arts, at least, once you reach a certain degree, you are allowed to promote others to a certain degree

Like, if I have a PhD in NMS, I should be able to grant a Bachelor's degree in NMS to others

[ripe verge]

NICE

[wind panther]

Beautiful multiool you got there

Shame if something...happened to it

Have you paid your monthly dues yet?

[ripe verge]

lol

i

dont

[civic badge]

Is this one of those Korvax staffs in the making?

[dense quartz]

Now that got me wondering, is that atlantideum in those multitools?

[ripe verge]

its

this

[civic badge]

they don't look the same

[dense quartz]

Oh I thought it was an alien multitool, or whatever those things are called.

[ripe verge]

PIRATE V PIRATE

[dense quartz]

WH

[past shuttle]

Been almost a few hours since the internal branch update now, and nothing on experimental

This has to be it

[flat jetty]

[dense quartz]

[flat jetty]

They just waiting to press the button

[ripe verge]

comes in green colour

[dense quartz]

I still thing it's coming tomorrow tho.

[flat jetty]

I have hope

[dense quartz]

In like.. 24-26 hours from now.

[flat jetty]

It's gotta be today

[uncut harness]

It's definitely tomorrow

[flat jetty]

bunch of Debbie downers

it's today

[somber rampart]

i hope

[dense quartz]

I'll take pictures of these places again after the update hits so I can compare them.

[sour fossil]

I find it a bit weird that HG crammed the new terminal in there

They have this nice empty balcony on the right side

Im afraid it's gonna be a pain in the ass to interact with

Once you get a group of people in front of it checking it out

[dense quartz]

I think it's fine since it's close to the entrance.
That balcony would make more sense for the egg sequences and multitool scrapping unit.

I actually really don't like how Tethys, the construct and the multitool terminal are crammed together so tightly.. Like, why

There's so much room in the anomaly to place each of them in lol.

[sour fossil]

IMO the MT decomission terminal has no place on Space Anomaly

There is nothing special about it to let people scrap their MTs there

Each regulated station has an MT upgrade terminal

And enough processing power to scrap a fully functional starship down to the screws

But not our portable pew-pew machines?

[dense quartz]

I just assumed it was a placeholder because they were overhauling space stations.. but then I saw the new teleporter to Tethys and started thinking it's there to stay.

[flat jetty]

Expedition 12 has 1 hour left

[dense quartz]

I really don't think it's happening today. It'll be tomorrow. 😔

[flat jetty]

The expedition is still ongoing it won't release until that's over with

[hard stirrup]

Maybe not, but we'll find out in the next couple of hours.

[flat jetty]

It's over in just under an hour

[hard stirrup]

Yeah, in 36 minutes, but the new update may not go public the minute the test ends and even if it does the public start of the expedition is probably still around 2 and a half hours away.

[dense quartz]

I think Sean usually start tweeting an hour or two before the update drops.

[late tusk]

:)

[dense quartz]

He does that cursed stick figure guy.

[snow stream]

I can’t wait for omegaman

[dense quartz]

I am nuts for the omega.

[late tusk]

No usually its some long paragraphs

Then he drops the cursed stick man

[dense quartz]

Really? I remember the stick duder being the very first thing, then he posts a few other tweets for an hour and then finishes with the patch notes and trailer. 🤔

Funny thing is usually Steam gets the update before Sean is done with his thing lol.

[quasi oyster]

I believe the theory behind that is “It’s Alive!”

[past shuttle]

Guess it's probably tomorrow huh

[uncut harness]

That's my prediction too

I don't think any game company celebrates their updates as much as HG, it's always an event with them

[zenith perch]

https://vxtwitter.com/Miangoco/status/1757188341810766207 its taller wtf

I don't think anything is coming today imma br

Updates usually drop around 2pm uk time

Plus sean woulda done the paragraphs thing

[past shuttle]

Yeaah it's getting a bit late for it to be today, plus wednesday is usually just the day they launch stuff

My bet is they just have it ready and waiting on internal, ready to just send out tomorrow whenever they have the PR stuff planned

[zenith perch]

HG don't really do PR unless its articles though

[past shuttle]

Sorry I meant like the Twitter stuff describing the update and the news article on their site

[zenith perch]

I wish they'd do what they did with beyond and NEXT more often and tease updates properly and earlier

[cobalt siren]

I've seen an update release at 7 pm English time before

[zenith perch]

"NMS: Update Name, coming next week"

Which update was that

[cobalt siren]

They literally do it whenever

[zenith perch]

I hope HGs communication improves with LNF at least

[icy citrus]

Lmao

[dire drum]

You and I both know that’s never gonna happen

[zenith perch]

that's why I said hope

[zenith perch]

Which update

Cause that sounds more like a time where steam got it later

[cobalt siren]

I'll find out when I get home

[uncut harness]

Origins

[civic badge]

The trial expedition has ended. I was given a familiar dialog akin to old expeditions endind (like it stating it will revert). I was able to go back to my primary save and was still given access to the expedition save for the purpose of transferring items back through the terminal. I have logged out on the expedition save and it still has the expedition icon (unlike when old ones would revert to a standard file). I don't know how long the grace period is, but it seems like you can still access it for a period after.

[rustic haven]

I mean it's not so bad, they communicate a update is coming without setting a hard deadline for developera

[cobalt siren]

It was interceptor iirc

Released at like 8:11 pm UK time

[rustic haven]

I assume until the next expedition starts

[dense quartz]

I remember the patch notes releasing for Interceptor even an hour before it was available on Steam.
And I just kept seeing the internal branch updated every half an hour lol.

[cobalt siren]

Rlly the update could release at any point

HG have the capability to set a times release so they don't even need to be in the office

[dense quartz]

It would've already happened if it was today.
It's definitely releasing tomorrow.

[gentle saffron]

or later 😉

[timid mist]

the actual update sometimes comes out on PS5 or steam a couple hours early, but Sean typically starts tweeting between 8AM and 9AM EST, with the announcement at 9AM, on the day of the update, which has almost always been Wednesdays

given that it went on sale yesterday and he posted the emoji last week tomorrow's a pretty safe bet, but who knows lol

[past shuttle]

On the bright side, it's pretty much 99% going to be either today or tomorrow, which is crazy exciting

[dense quartz]

Less than 24 hours from now.. even less considering I'll travel into the future by 8 hours by pretending to be dead. 👀

[timid mist]

as long as you're only pretending

[dense quartz]

Eventually I'll have to get around to doing the real thing, but I'm putting it off for as long as I can.

But yeah, pretending is a good way to make time pass faster.

[timid mist]

hopefully you got another 60-70 years in you

im sure the update will be out before then, on the bright side

[dense quartz]

Yee, I'm so hyped for the space stations.

[timid mist]

same, really curious what sort of new features they'll bring in with them

[somber rampart]

What did i miss

[icy citrus]

Wild speculation and hopes

The usual

[somber rampart]

oh well

that makes me feel overjoyed!

[timid mist]

yeah basically the typical "update inbound" behavior lol

[somber rampart]

oh scallop

[dense quartz]

The realization that the update is coming tomorrow and not today.

[somber rampart]

oh any news or

[timid mist]

nah nothing new

[somber rampart]

fiddlesticks

[timid mist]

other than a sale starting but that's not really news, just more indication that it'll be 🔜

wow that emote is not visible in dark mode lol

[somber rampart]

so when will it come out tmrw

[icy citrus]

Look for Sean to start monologuing about past updates

[timid mist]

yee

also I think tomorrow but not set in stone or anything, just a hunch based on past stuff

[icy citrus]

Aye, I think tomorrow or Thursday

[somber rampart]

chances are tomorrow

[timid mist]

if you don't wanna get spoiled prob avoid this channel especially tomorrow (aka like 20 hours from now + a couple) since it may drop earlier than the announcement

and ppl will post findings and stuff in here

[somber rampart]

there was an announcement!

[timid mist]

nah not yet

[somber rampart]

oh

[icy citrus]

If you get the NMS Announcement role ( #roles ) you will get pinged when it starts happening officially

Usually the update doesn't release on all platforms at the same time, but there have been a few that did

[flat jetty]

Sean please

[timid mist]

agreed

[long barn]

Usually Wednesdays isn't it for updates?

[dense quartz]

Yep. It's almost always a Wednesday.

[long barn]

Should be tomorrow then if routine is followed

[dense quartz]

Yep, 22-23 hours from now. 👀

[zenith perch]

By sending an emoji on twitter.

This is why I liked Beyond, they GIGAHYPED that update.

[dense quartz]

I wasn't around for Beyond but I heard the reception was mixed because of the long hype.

[viral geyser]

Beyond was also not a very content rich update for explorers

[zenith perch]

Very few updates are a content rich update for explorers

Personally I do not care for an update dedicated purely to that, I like the overhaul era we're in rn

[zenith perch]

Reception was mixed because the game was so broken that they dropped about 14 bugfix patches within a week and fixed basically every issue the game had introduced from that update

[dense quartz]

Not to mention each update adds stuff to explore that has depth.
I much more prefer something like an echo camp with autophage and sentinel pillars to... an animal that's just there.

[zenith perch]

The issue with exploration atm is honestly not terrain gen but instead colours and flora imo

[dense quartz]

I still think the wonders feature is probably the greatest thing they've done for exploration. Like actually gave exploration some meaning.

[zenith perch]

They could use guild envoys to make in game guilds yknow

[dense quartz]

It feels so integral to exploration, you'd think it would've been in the game since launch.

[zenith perch]

With leaderboards, a chosen home system, etc etc

I think it'd be amazing for more of a sense of community

[rustic haven]

Well I mean under promise and overdeliver. Also no time frame allows them to be flexible incase something goes wrong

[zenith perch]

I don't remember any recent largescale update underpromising

Basic communication is my only request

[dense quartz]

I find it silly how they actually release development updates and all it ever says is basically "We're working on stuff, you'll see."

[icy citrus]

If they say what they are working on, people take it as a solemn oath and freak out when it doesn't materialize

[dense quartz]

I get that.

[timid mist]

the dev updates are more for community content spotlighting + a hot/cold sort of statement about state of development for next update

no mention = a ways off
soon = sorta close
very soon = within a month or something lol

at least that's how I treat it

[dense quartz]

Imagine getting the new space stations but the station override item still has no use.

[uncut harness]

Yeah communities are bad at setting expectations. And the fact that we still see a ton of suggestions to basically redesign core aspects of the game after 7 years just shows it's best to have as little communication as necessary. I appreciate the way HG does things, especially because they are just a group of people who love making games for a living, and want to enjoy it, and there are a lot people who love what their doing and their vision.

[flat jetty]

I hope it tomorrow

[uncut harness]

I imagine it's going to be super early in the morning for me, can't wait to wake up and jump in the discord talking about patch notes

[dense quartz]

It tomorrow.

[flat jetty]

[dense quartz]

My own timer.

[flat jetty]

[dense quartz]

TΩmΩrrΩw

[late tusk]

i hope

[honest hamlet]

When does the next expedition start?

[heady wyvern]

We don't know, probably shortly after the next content update.

Which, if you'll trust the judgment of the people here, is tomorrow.

[honest hamlet]

Okay

[eternal radish]

@glass flare I heard from peoole that Omega is an Expedition, so I think it's when the update drops, which, from experience is on Wednesdays (tomorrow), BUT this is just speculation. Don't take this for fact.

[cobalt siren]

here me out
if this update is themed around the atlas. WOuldn't it make sense to be released on friday... the 16th?

[sour fossil]

Communities on their own aren't that bad. The problem lies in armchair gaming development professors who make clickbaity videos for a living, sitting in their own little discords of adoration

[dense quartz]

Don't they always release updates on Wednesday because they don't have complete control over how consoles handle content updates or something like that?

[glass flare]

mm did you mean to ping me

[eternal radish]

And then people coming to whine in this server

[eternal radish]

Huh? No. I meant to reply to someone else but I already thought the tag didn't make any sense. Oops. Sorry 😅

[sour fossil]

It could be possible, but even the world of game development / releases is full of deadlines and unexpected issues

If HG finds some major bugs last minute, they might opt to postpone the update alltogether

[glass flare]

no worries 😆

[late tusk]

lmao

[sour fossil]

what

Dunno how to interpret this, you agree or not?

[cobalt siren]

HG probably have PTSD from launch

[glass flare]

was the ship that was teased in the video last year the award ship for the upcoming expedition?

[dense quartz]

Yep.

[glass flare]

cool! is it another one-off, non-procedural ship like the snowspeeder, or is it a new ship type with variable designs?

[dense quartz]

Looks like it's just another one-off. Sadness.

Though it has a nifty feature when landed that you can't really make out in the teaser.

[glass flare]

that's a real disappointment. that aesthetic should be a whole new class

[dense quartz]

Yeah agreed.

[hard stirrup]

They wouldn't put a whole new type of ship as only a reward from an expedition. No way.

[glass flare]

I mean they kind of did that for Echoes

that should have been the blueprint they followed for this. maybe they'll add a procedural version separately into the game

[hard stirrup]

And also, they're kind of out of possibilities on creating new ship types...Interceptors are just fighters with some extra perks like a great hyperdrive tech, a small hyperdrive bonus, and can have 20 more max slots than fighters, Beyond that they have a ship type for every strength and weakness.

[sour fossil]

Lol wut

Interceptors are the most distinct ship type yet

[hard stirrup]

No they didn't...what are you talking about?

[analog breach]

Its not new type. Its uniqe ship like utopia speedster

[hard stirrup]

No they aren't...their stat bonuses are fighter ship stat bonuses...identical ranges. They are just fighters with a different skin and some extra perks.

[glass flare]

I meant that you basically get one of the procedural ships as part of the expedition. I understand what you're saying, but if you can do expeditions on your main save now then there's no reason not to

[sour fossil]

Lmao try flying one and report back that these two types have the same manueverability

[hard stirrup]

I know. I am just saying that putting a whole new ship type as an expedition reward only.

[sour fossil]

which is suprising to noone and a bumme that HG continues this stupid trend

And no, using different seed for once doesn't make it interesting

[hard stirrup]

They do. The interceptor has a different handling beacuse it can hover so if you don't accelerate it stops completely but their maneuverability is the same.

But really, Interceptors are literally just Fighters+.

[sour fossil]

Im sorry but I simply can't agree with you and further convo would be just me shitting on you

[icy citrus]

They don't maneuver the same and their bonuses aren't the same either

[sour fossil]

You are plain wrong but you do you I guess

[icy citrus]

Different cockpit, different looks - the only thing they really share is some weapons - and all the ships but living do that

[hard stirrup]

If you can't keep a conversation civil and to the point then sure. But I am just talking about the facts of the stats and differences between these ships.

[icy citrus]

The facts of the stats is that they don't have the same range

[real merlin]

Sentinel maneuverability is only when they are boosting for 1, they are like haulers when they aint

[hard stirrup]

Hyperdrive range yeah, but that's why I said they are Fighters+. Their hyperdrive bonus is small...around 5% to 10%, but the unique hyperdrive tech is far better...so they get some extra warp range but they are just objectively better fighters.

[icy citrus]

Fighters don't get any hyperdrive bonus at all, and fighters have higher bonus potential in shields and damage

They also have less potential agility- but as mentioned that's at boost

So no

Their stats aren't the same

[hard stirrup]

Shields and damage bonuses are the same as fighers. They are just fighters that can warp furhter and have more storage slots.

[timid mist]

I do sorta wish that rather than a specific ship you just got a "key" or something that lets you collect a procgen ship of a certain class. the idea of a reward being identical for everyone in NMS makes me less interested in them usually

[icy citrus]

No, they aren't

[timid mist]

just sometimes redeem reward ships in new games so I can skip a small amount of grind lol

[icy citrus]

I'm not sure where your source is, mine is from game files

[glass flare]

it especially feels weird when you roll into the Anomaly and there's five of the same ship lined up. just feels "wrong" in such a highly procedural game like this

[sour fossil]

Problem is, you can't really advertise a new adventure if the reward is not clear for all players

[hard stirrup]

Take another look...shields and damage of the two are the same ranges.

[sour fossil]

When you see a poster with a shiny new ship, you know you are getting that shiny new ship

Not playing a friggin gacha

[icy citrus]

I just took another look

They aren't

[timid mist]

I think showing a subset of possible ships is cool. I get the point that it's unique to the expedition and therefore it should be enticing, just feels lame given the nature of the rest of the game (for me).

[sour fossil]

Though the idea itself is possible

Since one Game Master (?) made a mod just like that

[timid mist]

I still think they look cool i just stay offline so I don't have to see how non-unique the unique reward is lol

[clear prism]

What a nice place for an autophage camp 😹

[sour fossil]

That allows you to purchase "ship tokens" from galactic terminal

[timid mist]

That's neat

[sour fossil]

And game generates ships from these tokens, like "S class hauler"

So yeah, technically it is possible

[timid mist]

to be clear as well I think it's still very cool, it's more of an issue when it combines wiht multiplayer lol

[sour fossil]

But I still wouldn't call it a good idea for a reward

[runic mesa]

I mean, tons of metal scrap around. Makes sense.

[uncut harness]

Interceptors generally have less protection and a greater focus on speed and range

But you're not really wrong

[real merlin]

Nuff said

[timid mist]

I guess that's partially why people were hoping they'd be new classes of ships rather than unique ships that are identical. Obviously that has its own issues, since that new class would need to then be introduced into the game and it'd be the same as the "token" idea lol. but a fair amount of people just aren't interested in static models vs procgen "discovery" of cool stuff

[uncut harness]

Thank you for proving my point 🙏

[hard stirrup]

There is also some funkiness between what the files say a ship's damage bonus range should be and what it actually is. Living ships should have a shield stat range but in reality they all spawn with a fixed 180.3 without added modules. For Fighters and Interceptors natural S spawns both actually cap at ~320 core damage with just their photon canon/equivalent without added modules.

[sour fossil]

Whelp, you've been here for longer than I and you know what most people are interested in - starship customization

And there is only so much ship types and slots you can add before you bloat the save data to the point of loading in 10s of minutes lol

[hard stirrup]

Note my reply to Singular Gleam just above.

[glass flare]

Highly specific sub-types don't make a lot of sense to me unless they add fleet battles where things like anti-cruiser missile ships, electronics jamming, etc. could make sense. Which is why right now the difference between a fighter and interceptor doesn't feel that impactful, even though the differences are there.

[timid mist]

eh I mean I agree with you that what I described isn't a great idea either. No way to satisfy everyone, so I just complain sometimes lol. but yeah ship customization is a top want

I'd love customization in any form, but I imagine it'll be like tech upgrades, i.e. a vendor who sells proc gen parts that you install rather than something you could scavenge/earn. But who knows.

[sour fossil]

We know HG is lying some groundwork for ship customization

They added a new file acting as a kind of library that hosts all modular customization data

When HG introduced staves in Echoes, they put the "staff assembly" data into some random global variables file

Now they are moving it and adding entries for ship types into a dedicated file

IMO this is not something you do on a whim

[timid mist]

yeah the changes they make are always intentional whether it means something happens soon or much later

[icy citrus]

Ok

[timid mist]

my "will never happen" want for the game is for them to just make one update where all they do is add a bunch of new parts for creatures/tools/ships/etc. which theyve done, but not on the level of unrealistic workload that I'd like lol

[sour fossil]

Hopefully we will see tomorrow the fruits of this work

[timid mist]

which is to say I'd never actually ask for it but it'd be sick

true true

[sour fossil]

Yeah adding more parts to existing algorithm would be nice

My pet peeve would be updating MT models

The old rifles and pistols look kinda like shit

When you put them against Sentinel / staves / Atlas MTs

Or even royals

[timid mist]

ikr

[sour fossil]

Like something from Borderlands 1

[timid mist]

I like them cause they're sorta "clean" but the new stuff is so nice looking

they might just go the path of adding more details to the models like they did with the ships at one point

[sour fossil]

So just like they refreshed fighters or explorers, I wish they would refresh those parts on MTs as well

[real merlin]

Tbh, same could be said of the ships, fighters, haulers etc

[timid mist]

every idea I have for how to change stuff boils down into making it more RPG-like lol which I don'tthink is the aim they're taking, so I don't bother sharing

[sour fossil]

Ehhh, NMS is closer to Skyrim in space than to MC in space

So why not lol

[timid mist]

but one I'll share is I think it'd be neat to have ships work sorta like jobs in fire emblem, where once it gets to a certain "level" (in a ships case, maybe class?) it opens up a specialization path - i.e. a fighter could become a speeder or something else. changes stats and maybe updates the look a little

doesn't mesh super well with how things work right now but just something I like to think about

[late tusk]

golden vector/speeder/and now the new one

[hard stirrup]

Golden Vector and Utopia Speeder are Fighters, and the new ship is an Exotic. They are uniqe skins, not unique ship types.

[glass flare]

i just want the new space stations 😭

[timid mist]

same same

hopefully tomorrow 🙏

[analog breach]

S N

[civic badge]

Well, wel, well, they didn't update experimental so looks good for tomorrow

[summer hearth]

do you go to the cloud district very often?

oh what am i saying

of course you dont

[dense quartz]

TΩmΩrrΩw

[late tusk]

still counts

[dense quartz]

Wait the starborn snooter is an exotic? I thought it'd be a fighter type.

[hard stirrup]

You entirely missed my point entirely. I said they would not make unique ship types exclusive to an expedition. I did not say unique ship skins. Those are two entirely different things and no, it does not "count".

[sour fossil]

Its coded as an exotic

[hard stirrup]

Only looks like a fighter but no, it's an exotic.

[molten karma]

Honestly the only problem I have with current terrain is how all of it is mostly overly smooth and round looking. I kind of miss some of the sharper and sometimes more rugged terrain the older versions had. I don't want them to remove current terrain I just wish both could exist equally and possibly mix together in some rare cases for some real exotic terrains.

[zenith perch]

And a reason to explore for planets that contain the resource needed to refuel them yes

They're good money if you sell em afaik

[zenith perch]

Mine is straight up owning a station

[hard stirrup]

They are very easy to refuel, yes. Very easy to mine a bunch of the crystals needed to refuel them to keep them going. As for selling, not so good for selling anymore...their value was drastically nerfed with the Echoes update. Hello Games did not like people making easy units off of them.

[timid mist]

Doesn't seem too unlikely tbh

But no way to know

[zenith perch]

Units are pretty much useless past a certain point tbh tbh

[hard stirrup]

I wouldn't say useless but not hard to get, there are still a lot of ways to get a lot of units to buy pretty much whatever you might want.

[runic mesa]

A few more added staff sets would be neat. But I can live if we don't get it.

Reeeeeally want more MT slots, more than ship. I'm already making tentative plans for a secondary save to keep ships/MT/etc I don't have room for on my main...

[hard stirrup]

Staffs have the widest variety so far, 7 sets that you can mix and match and the color of each pieces varies depending on the location where it is assembled.

[honest hamlet]

Any sneak peeks at patch notes?

[dense quartz]

Give it another 16 hours.

Hah. 16.

[rancid flax]

heh i see what you did there

[dense quartz]

That was unintentional lol.

[honest hamlet]

Lmao

[dense quartz]

I actually think the update will drop in about 16 hours. 😄

[rotund perch]

You guys think it's gonna be a full content update or mostly the expedition?

[dense quartz]

Content + expedition. 👀

[honest hamlet]

I hope it’s full content

[dense quartz]

Are you guys gonna dive right in blindly or first go through the patch notes?

[honest hamlet]

First read notes otherwise you go in blindly not knowing anything

[elfin arrow]

@dense quartz

get some sleep man

best way to skip time

[dense quartz]

Good call. It's past midnight.. but I have insomnia.

[elfin arrow]

how bout go to sleep watching all previous NMS trailers

[dense quartz]

I actually regularly read the flashy patch notes on the main NMS website.
Dunno why.

They're more exciting to me than videos I guess.

[late tusk]

i always do patch notes tbh

[dense quartz]

I like jumping in blindly because you can only do that one time and get surprised by stuff.
But you can always read the patch notes any time.

[honest hamlet]

They certainly know how to wow us in the patch notes with all of their flashy pictures

[dense quartz]

Yeah, they're much better than the trailers imo.

[honest hamlet]

Yup

???……. Isn’t it a coincidence that the omega update is coming out and half the people on this server has an omega symbol on their name tag?? lol

[late tusk]

🤔

this happens every emoji lmao

[hard stirrup]

It's always worth reading all the patch notes because there are balance details and information about additions you won't see anywhere else and won't be in the highlight videos either. Always great info in there.

[cloud jolt]

@dense quartz

No stickers in this channel please

[honest hamlet]

Lmao

[dense quartz]

Yeah I read everything. 😄

Thanks, mobile discord.

[errant socket]

Update def soon

[dense quartz]

15 hours from now.

[quasi oyster]

Reading the patch notes is like the glass of wine I drink after watching the meaty trailers

I take my time, and be like “oh heck yeah, that little XYZ thing got changed!”

[uncut harness]

The performance is really bad on my ps4pro..

[hard stirrup]

Performance isn't great on anything other than next gen consoles and solid PCs...but hey, at least you're not playing on Switch. But yeah, if you are able to you should consider upgrading to PS5, the game runs like a dream on PS5.

[uncut harness]

My gawd.. it ran well on my old ps4 back then.. what happened lol

[hard stirrup]

With the new generation of consoles Hello Games optimized the game to run well on them and added more content to the game but it's a balancing act...how much can the new hardware be pushed vs. the cost to performance on older hardware. So that left the last gen biting off a bit more than it could chew.

[uncut harness]

Oops im on the wrong server lol

I wasnt talkin bout nms. My bad 🤣

[viral geyser]

only 14 mor hours or so

[runic mesa]

Friend, I am literally standing right here. 😛

Kidding lol. Switch NMS ain't for the weak, that's for sure...

[full meadow]

"the game runs like a dream on ps5" not always

[glass flare]

maybe Omega means the last of the last-gen updates 🫣

[hard stirrup]

99.999% of the time. Pretty much always...I've had one crash since the echoes update, that's it.

No real frame drops or rendering issues either.

[full meadow]

ive had alot of frame drops, multiple crashes and sometimes my ps5 straight up glitches and shuts off but that last one is probably an issue with my ps5 not the game

[hard stirrup]

Doubtful...they just launched the game on Switch less than a year and a half ago. They won't stop support for the lower end consoles.

[hard stirrup]

Powering off in my experience is caused by overloading a power outlet...when too many things are plugged into an extension cord from one outlet it can cause the PS5 to turn off randomly. I had the issue once...easily fixed by moving some things to other power outlets or making sure that multiple power hungry electronics don't run on the same outlet as the same time as the PS5.

[glass flare]

yeah it was mostly a joke. I'd love to see NMS not weighed down by old hardware though

[full meadow]

Oh yeah that would probably explain it, thanks!

[runic mesa]

I'd be genuinely surprised if HG doesn't at least entertain the idea of porting it to the Switch 2 (whenever that comes out).

[hard stirrup]

I have no doubt they will, probably for day one when that thing launches. But I doubt they'll stop support for the Switch or any other previous gen consoles.

[runic mesa]

Re: Switch performance. You'd be surprised how many keep their Switch in sleep mode perpetually and never actually shut down the system properly.

[civic badge]

I think my switch has been on for weeks 🤔

I only use it for YouTube atm though, and would probably reset it if I played NMS on it

[shy lava]

I'm on PS5 and the game does become a bit troublesome at my 12K parts large base 😂
Didn't have any problems around 10-11K parts on my base, though.
But in normal circumstances, yes, the game runs like a dream on PS5.

Lets hope Omega drops tomorrow.

[full meadow]

12k parts base?!

[shy lava]

Yep, lol

All furnished

[full meadow]

wow, I want to visit that lol

[dusky gazelle]

Has anyone converted the experimental branch back to regular branch after this test of the expedition? If sho what happens to the game and rewards? Just curious.

[shy lava]

Can't upload it, though. 3K parts max upload.

[wind panther]

Can't, save file changed format

Need to wait about 10 hours or so until the update (maybe then)

[dusky gazelle]

Cool haven't tried. Played around on the test but never finished the expedition since my main save is on my xbox. Got the first 2 phases completed. But didn't want to really pursue it due to it not being my main game.

[dense quartz]

My expedition save is grayed out and unavailable.
I'm looking forward to updating to see if it'll become usable again.

Less than 10 hours. 👀

[viral geyser]

Where are you getting 10 hours from

[dense quartz]

That's usually when updates drop. On a Wednesday around that time. 10 hours from now. 👀

Or less!

[summer hearth]

By the time i wake up tomorrow it should be out

Gonna have a hard time sleeping tonight

[dense quartz]

As did I. Apparently I slept for 5 hours.

And I don't think I can do anything with my life until the update drops.. can't focus on anything. 😅

[viral geyser]

It drops usually at 8/9am est

That's in 7~ hours

[summer hearth]

T- 7 hours till omega

[dense quartz]

Yeah, around 15:00 HG's time.
I like to give it some more time so I can be pleasantly surprised when it's earlier than my prediction.

[summer hearth]

What

[dense quartz]

wh

I saw that lol.

[viral geyser]

Saw what

[summer hearth]

Mods

Kill him

[viral geyser]

🦕

[dense quartz]

Send him to the principle's office and have him expelled!

[viral geyser]

MR ELECTRIC

[summer hearth]

Send him to HELL

[viral geyser]

Would you guys hit this

[summer hearth]

Thats off topic brother

[dense quartz]

I have no idea what tastes like, am not Murican, never seen that product irl.

Nah I'm sure it's NMS related.

[summer hearth]

Die

[dense quartz]

I'm so excited for the new Atlas Path content..
There's something magical about naming your custom wonders the most unhinged things possible, presenting it to the Atlas and seeing your own text displayed in the game's descriptive box.

[molten karma]

Sean has been suspiciously quiet. I wonder if we're even gonna get the update today.

[heavy light]

He's always quiet tjo

we got emoji and then triple emoji

[dense quartz]

Sean being quiet after the emoji drops is part of the pattern.

His next tweet today is gonna be the cursed howdy-howdy stick figure. Calling it now.

[crude sand]

lol I hope so.

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[dense quartz]

Dude you freaked me out for a second lol.
Thought "We're ahead of schedule!"

[crude sand]

Hehehe 🤪

[heavy light]

funky cowboy stick figure

The highlight of everyones day

[wind panther]

He's only been doing the cowboy a year or two right?

[dense quartz]

I think so.

I think for Endurance was the first time he did it?

[crude sand]

Yeh since endurance 💪

[dense quartz]

I remember a reddit post that screenshotted the first stick figure and the title was "What even is Sean Murray." 🤣

[crude sand]

lol, dudes a memer

But it is funny

[dense quartz]

The best tweet Sean ever sent out was a reply to a comment completely downplaying a new big update at the time while asking for being able to make love with some hot aliens (paraphrasing, can't quote it without getting banned here )
And Sean actually responded to the guy with just this..

[wind panther]

Day 7 was good too

[dense quartz]

I remember those. xD

Sean and community: exchanging fun banter
News outlets: "Upset butthurt gamer loser is threatening HG and is actively DESTROYING the game! This has to stop!"

[wind panther]

Haha yeah

[uncut harness]

I see steam and PlayStation have sales, but no sale on Xbox?

[hard stirrup]

I think Steam and Xbox have sales but not PlayStation. But I would expect PlayStation to have some kind of Valentine's day sales going up at some point so we'll probably see NMS on sale then.

Wait...PlayStation has put NMS on sale at some point when I wasn't looking since yesterday.

[uncut harness]

It's on sale for PS

Did you see an Xbox sale?

[wind panther]

Gog it's on sale too I believe

[hard stirrup]

Not me but I have seen someone else say it was on sale yesterday.

[molten karma]

🤔

[uncut harness]

I don't when I go to the website

[molten karma]

DLC No Man's Sky Entitlement

[uncut harness]

👀 interesting

[sour fossil]

Entitlements are stuff like pre-order bonuses

[dense quartz]

I guess the Omega ship was a preorder.. before it was even teased at TGA? wh.

[hard stirrup]

No idea what that is supposed to be about...I'd say maybe some kind of purchasable DLC coming in the future but no idea. Maybe just a way to handle making all expeditions permanently playable but still free would be to treat them like DLC...or maybe plan to charge money to have permanent access to DLC after their limited free runs? Not sure.

[crude sand]

Not the same ship, the horizon omega was a pre order bonus for PC

[hard stirrup]

Yeah...name coincidence but that is the preorder ship for people who preordered the game before its original 2016 launch.

[dense quartz]

It says it was last updated 4 months ago tho. 🤔

Does it "get updated" every time there's an update?

[hard stirrup]

They do have to update the preorder ships sometimes as the ships in the game change so they can still be functional.

[uncut harness]

How are you seeing this? I don't see this on steam db

Oh I see, related apos

[hard stirrup]

I have seen someone say yesterday the game was on sale on Xbox and it was supposed to stay on sale until the 19th...granted I didn't look myself as I don't play on Xbox but I don't think the guy was lying. However it doesn't appear to be on sale on Xbox now. No idea what might have happened there.

[gentle saffron]

Is on sale with 50% if you own a gamepass (in EU at least)

[sour fossil]

Not for me, just checked the MS Store app and Im in EU

[gentle saffron]

Ha. So replace EU with Germany in this case

[uncut harness]

That dlc thing looks related to review copies, maybe relates to that demo stuff people found in the files

[hard stirrup]

Hmm...that's interesting...as that game is not on sale for non Game-Pass subscribers...and I don't think Hello Games are the ones who would go out of their way to make game pass a requirement for the sale. Seems rather scummy of Microsoft if they are forcing Game Pass subscription to have access to certain sales.

[gentle saffron]

Well. As it is part of gamepass anyway.... 😄

[sour fossil]

Would it be possible that this DLC record in Steam DB is just the soundtrack?

[hard stirrup]

That doesn't justify it. Not even a little bit.

[sour fossil]

If memory serves right, some games provide soundtracks as separate purchases on Steam

would that count as DLC?

[gentle saffron]

@hard stirrup the justification is as simple as: Preium Members getting special deals. Nothing uncommon. Amazon Prime also offers dedicated deals for their members.
I am more wondering why some regions (even within EU) do get a discount and some don't 🙂

[uncut harness]

So, not on sale on Xbox yet despite rumors

[hard stirrup]

But why would Xbox lock the sale behind an expensive subscription against the will of the developer? Hello Games are not restricting the sale on any other platform.

[hard stirrup]

Nope...not for most people anyway.

[molten karma]

The first entry of the DLC was created 16th of January 2024

[hard stirrup]

The Entitlements thing you mean? It will be interesting to see what that will do.

Hello Games might tell us more about it when the official Omega patch notes and announcement release.

[molten karma]

See its seperate from the ship DLC

[hard stirrup]

Yeah.

No price indicates it will be free. Whatever this is will probably launch with Omega so I imagine if it had a cost surely it would be put in the store by now.

I suspect this will have to do with making the previous expeditions permanently playable.

[molten karma]

Hopefully we see Sean tweeting in a couple of hours. Honestly I think so to but tin foil hat mode is what if a procgen update is DLC and this is a measure to take so community bases don't get destroyed since it'll be optional? One can dream lol.

[sour fossil]

And would that play with the multiplayer aspect of the game?

Im on PC, I buy the DLC alterring terrain, I join a session hosted by Xbox player with vanilla terrain

[uncut harness]

I like the idea of previous expeditions being dlc you can enable and disable haha

[molten karma]

It'd act like any generation mod would. Players wouldn't be able to see it and you or other people will be under ground or floating and it'll be jank.

[hard stirrup]

Presumably you'd only be able to play with other people who own whatever this DLC is. But I'm guessing this will be a means to making all expeditions permanently playable.

[gentle saffron]

Who said it is against the will of HG? Do you have details about the contract between MS and HG about adding the Game to the pass?
What if MS has the right to discount it on Pass whenever they want? For HG does it not really matter: Getting money from Pass usage or getting (more) money from Pass users who will purchase while on GamePass Sale?

The only "against the will" sale would be: Normal Sale 50% discount and GamePass 75% discount.

[uncut harness]

Anyway, I should go back to sleep, I have to be up in 4 hours

Looking forward to some patch notes to read at work

[hard stirrup]

That's incorrect. There are only two possibilities here: 1) Hello Games decided to make the sale only for Game Pass subscribers or 2) Microsoft denied them the ability to put the game on sale for all. But given Hello Games did not do this on PlayStation(which can have PS+ member only sales) it's probably Microsoft who forced the matter. A scummy move to try to force Game Pass on people.

[molten karma]

We even sure the update is out today?

[ripe verge]

bug

another

trasnfering

base

from

[hard stirrup]

Not 100% but it most likely will be.

[ripe verge]

old pirate to new pirate

[uncut harness]

OR sales prices haven't gone live yet on the Xbox store because it's 1am in Washington

[molten karma]

I don't think Sean tweeted yesterday right?

[ripe verge]

transfers the bridge colour as well

[ripe verge]

old bridge transfered

[hard stirrup]

Not yesterday but he teased the update plenty last weekend...next tweets will be around the time of launch...give or take a couple hours.

[ripe verge]

orange freighter but old was blue

so yeah

[uncut harness]

That section of freighters has always been weird, not surprised it's weird for these new ones

[ripe verge]

where

to

report bug

[ripe verge]

the reason i swapped my freigther cuz it was fullwhite

now it got that ugly blue

[sour fossil]

!hg

[cloud jolt]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[hard stirrup]

Full white sounds better than the lame baby blue. Have you got a save backup or a restore point from before making the trade?

[dense quartz]

I wonder if pirate freighter bridges really will have just one teleporter and stairs like in the experimental build instead of two.

[hard stirrup]

I would assume so. Seems a bit late to make fundamental changes to their layout.

[ripe verge]

unfrotunatley

no

[dense quartz]

That's such an odd change.. like, why.

[ripe verge]

its after reload

it turned ugly blue

before reload it was white

DONE!

sent the photos too

[hard stirrup]

I have also seen some people speculate that the Entitlement DLC thing might be related to NMS potentially getting a free demo version for people who don't own the game to check it out.

[ripe verge]

this is my new one

[ripe verge]

its sc

[uncut harness]

I assume pirates fix broken stolen ships

[ripe verge]

i was genuinely happy for full white

and i hate it now

[uncut harness]

Also 2 teleport pads didn't really matter, they always put me close to my ship

[ripe verge]

@hard stirrup

UGLY AHHHHH

[hard stirrup]

Yep, that is ugly. No arguments from me. Hopefully HG can patch this.

[ripe verge]

i just dont have the photo of it where it was full white

[rustic haven]

Now what about sentinel freighter 👀

[ripe verge]

They seem to be fine

every is fine

even the system one

pirate is having issue

maybe cuz of the unique bridge they get

[rustic haven]

I ment what about claiming a sentinel freighter lol, I know sentinels would die before surrender but a man can dream

[ripe verge]

i mean

capital exists

and they look like sentinel

[hard stirrup]

There are civilian freighters that look exactly like the sentinel one. You can have those.

[dense quartz]

Yeah the color patterns for pirate freighters are all over the place lol.

[rustic haven]

I'm aware, was just trying to make some conversation

[ripe verge]

i the one i bought was half orange and half grey ish

but the full bridge was full light greyish

[ripe verge]

@dense quartz

[dense quartz]

Oh lol.

5 hours until update. Probably. 👀

[molten karma]

Yeah no tweet from Sean yet is making it seem less likely

[dense quartz]

He's always silent after he drops the emoji.

If it's dropping today, it's still a bit early.

[molten karma]

I hope you're right

[clear orbit]

that freighter looks sick!

would be neat if we could fly around with one and not just warp etc.

[ripe verge]

also

it shoots at the sentinel one

[clear orbit]

maybe we even will be able to recruit crew members, gunners etc.

i mean the last freighter update already let us recruit AI on our ships although they cant do anything

[uncut harness]

What would entering atmosphere look like, or hitting a space station? Flying into the anomaly?

[dense quartz]

I'm actually not expecting any unique functionality for pirate freighters other than looks. Like any other freighter.
Keeping my expectations to a minimum. 😅

[clear orbit]

that would be quite interesting xD

[uncut harness]

Definitely not going to happen haha, just wouldn't add much

[clear orbit]

yea but i'm kinda confused why the pirate freighter attacks the sentinel freighter i mean there will probably be at least some "freighter fight" event where you can choose a side to help

[clear orbit]

yea imagine just shredding a entire space station with your freighter lol

[uncut harness]

Pirates don't like sentinels, they're feds

[dense quartz]

Well maybe the feature isn't finished.
When I bought one, it just started firing at nothing. It's turrets were also attacking me.

[clear orbit]

yea maybe thats something for a future update

[uncut harness]

Probably a patch

Or it's fixed already if someone filed it

[little star]

I'm ready to get my own pirate freighter on my main save and permadeath save, I farmed hella pirate frigates to fill my fleet up 😅😅

[clear orbit]

tf do you even get one lol

[dense quartz]

Fight it, disable it, don't blow it up.

[clear orbit]

ahhhh that's interesting, does this work with sentinel freighters too?

[little star]

Are they guaranteed to surrender after a point

[uncut harness]

You need to destroy their engines

[dense quartz]

When experimental dropped and I was (probably) the first one to discover the feature, soooo many people had no idea how to do it.

"Hey I blew it up. So uhh, how do I claim it after DESTROYING it? I don't get it."

You either destroy their engines and cannons, or damage them enough where they almost die.

[glad kernel]

well, it's me😂

[dense quartz]

"I blew up 5 freighters but I couldn't enter any of them after that. What am I doing wrong?"

[glad kernel]

I didn't destroy the engines

[dense quartz]

[rustic haven]

Did you also notice a frequency increase in encounters? Or is that only after not interacting with the previous then jumping

[dense quartz]

I wasn't paying attention to that. 🤔

[little star]

I wonder how cross play is performing with just pc having certain features

[dense quartz]

Wait you mean increased freighter battles?
They just happen very often for me when I go to pirate systems.

[rustic haven]

I jumped after fleeing and got 2 encounters in a row, fled again and didn't get another for a while, killed one and got another encounter Like 30 minutes later

[rustic haven]

Yeah

[little star]

Or does cross play just stop while they're doing this

[sour fossil]

All platforms that feature MP have the same features

Only Switch is left behind

[little star]

Ah

Well switch bad

[rustic haven]

It just felt like encounters where turned up to me

[dense quartz]

it's like a 50/50 chance for me to get one when I visit a pirate system.

[rustic haven]

Honestly might of changed when they came out and I didn't notice

[little star]

If you go to a pirate system and there is a battle, you can warp out of the system then warp back and the battle will happen again

At least that's how I farmed my frigates

[rustic haven]

Also, one station piece I really hope they made is a capital construction yard/dock, though that may be a bit to much to make

[little star]

What do you mean by capital construction yard

[dense quartz]

Maaaaan, I really need this update already so I can fly to a space stations and see they haven't been changed at all so I can get super disappointed. 😩

[little star]

I feel like if they changed space stations they would have shown it in the experimental

[sour fossil]

Assuming nothing was changed in experimental regarding this, this happens only in selected outlaw and T3 systems

[rustic haven]

True

[sour fossil]

Only a certain % of these systems have guaranteed dreadnought battle on each warp in

[rustic haven]

I wouldn't be so sure, that's not something you really need bug tested as much as stuff you interact with more

[dense quartz]

Why?
I feel like the stuff we have in experimental already wasn't really intentionally shown. Like HG didn't know what was included.

[little star]

Well it was an outlaw system I was using but I'm on PlayStation

[dense quartz]

The main point of the experimental was to test the new expedition saving system.

[rustic haven]

As well as the whole expedition name debacle

[little star]

Oh I didn't even think about thag

Is the new ship from the expedition good?

It seems aesthetically pleasing to me so that's the only reason I want one

[dense quartz]

Yeah the patch notes for it didn't say anything about the pirate freighters, new chart map, atlas path expansion etc..

Yeah the ship is pretty nifty. It hovers when landed. 👀

[rustic haven]

I actually didn't see the new chart map

[hearty current]

Do we have any idea what's coming in the omega update other than the expedition? Or is it just the expedition?

[little star]

Bro the sounds it makes too bring the dopamine

[rustic haven]

Read above, been discussed in depth

[dense quartz]

It's a new item a cartographer sells that takes you to buried ruins, which is a really weird thing to add.. unless they're changing the ruins?

[little star]

How far above

[rustic haven]

Or in summery, pirate freighters, expeditions improvements, and some smaller changes

[wind panther]

Regarding the new steamdb entry: Nothing notable in the save mappings that I could see on a quick look.

[rustic haven]

That is strange, maybe it's going to become a quest reward or something

[dense quartz]

You'll be able to showcase your cursed custom wonders to the Atlas and make him hate life.

[hearty current]

W A N T

[dense quartz]

There's something absolutely magical about being able to name your custom wonders without a profanity filter.. and then having that text displayed in this text format.
It's like you're doing something illegal lol.

[rustic haven]

Would profanity filter even hit that?

[little star]

It's like the atlas is a dad to like 5 million children and each one is trying to get him to look at something

[dense quartz]

Custom wonders don't have a profanity filter.
Trust me, I'd know.

[rustic haven]

I was referring to the deep wet hole, I'm well aware of some... discoveries

[little star]

I didn't even know sentinel boundary maps were a thing

[rustic haven]

Why is the exocraft scanner so powerful, it can find like every structure easily, wonder if they will fix that

[dense quartz]

Ohh, I guess not actually.
Actually, I think that's a planet I renamed. I only rename stuff when it's a new wonder, otherwise I don't care.

I just like seeing my wonder catalogue full of the most cursed stuff possible.

[rustic haven]

Nevermind, ignore what I'm saying. It's 4am and I can't speak lmao

[uncut harness]

It's intentional

[dense quartz]

Go sleep. You'll time travel to a timeline where the update will be available. Hopefully.

[rustic haven]

I'm aware it's intentional, most things are, I'm just wondering if it's going to be more balanced as it existed before the cartographer

[analog breach]

If exocrafts had weak scanner i would not use them at all

[little star]

Sadly I won't be able to sleep since I have school in 4 ish hours

[rustic haven]

I'm not even staying up for the update, just can't sleep haha. I'm not overly hyped about it tbh, if new stuff comes that's great, but if it's just expedition that's fine too.

[rustic haven]

I got my classes off, my college celebrates Mardi gra as a 3 day break

[ripe verge]

I hope these SC slots make you feel better now

(my old one was what hell what was that you said)

[rustic haven]

Hopefully you get to keep it after the update

[little star]

Do the pirate freighters just not have a main inventory

[ripe verge]

I mean they are fixing it so 110% you will

Unless you mean like we have to get a new oje

[little star]

🤦🤦🤦

[ripe verge]

No the progress from experimental carries over

[dense quartz]

Well I switched back to regular build and my experimental saves are unavailable. I'm curious to see if they'll work again after the update goes live. 👀

[molten karma]

If it goes live I just noticed I don't think Xbox is on sale yet.

[dense quartz]

Yeah people have said that already. Weird.

[molten karma]

PC and PS exclusive update lol. I mean Xbox does seem to be on fire.

[wind panther]

Yeah, experimental saves won't work on current public. The save file format changed

[ripe verge]

So we are 110% getting this freighter update

Who knows this might peak endurance

[rustic haven]

Oh dang, I'm gonna need to change it back

[ripe verge]

It won't

If you already played on experimental

[rustic haven]

I will force it

[wind panther]

Once the update comes out to public, it will work fine

Just wait

[dense quartz]

I dunno if it'll top Endurance. That update had an impossible amount of QoL stuff along with new content. It's still my favorite update.

[rustic haven]

Ita no big deal, it's a copy of my PD from after I got to the core, wanted to turn it survival because I put so much in I didn't want to lose

[rustic haven]

Been in the works for well over a year at this point, who knows, may be bigger than we expect

Station overhaul is no small feat, got to consider pirate and abandoned, if they don't stay the same

If that is this update

[dense quartz]

We know the space stations have been in the work for a long time. Like even a year ago their procedural externals were basically finished.

Imagine the override still not work after this update.

[wind panther]

Yeah, and interiors were in the trailer, so mostly working at least. I don't think they'll be in this update, but maybe

[rustic haven]

What we saw of the available set was finished, who knows, maybe more was made more specific to race, or random interiors, or nothing new and they just worked on other stuff lol

Won't know till we get there

[dense quartz]

Dude I would love it if each interior had a theme based off of the dominant race in that system.

[ripe verge]

True but they be working mid night as well

So who knows

[rustic haven]

Or dominant economy having an effect

[dense quartz]

Or all the things having an effect!

[rustic haven]

Now whose dreaming lol

[dense quartz]

I just hope the layouts change a bit and not just.. chairs and lamps or some crap. 😔

[rustic haven]

I'm just happy they look cooler

[rustic haven]

Agreed, needs like 2 house plants

[dense quartz]

I'm really curious what's that boxy elevator thing on the far right in the footage going from floor 1 to 2 which only I noticed and no one else on this Earth.

[rustic haven]

I mean, changing the core changes alot already, because the sentinel camps (or whatever their race is called) uses station cores in their old form

May imply more forms of cores

Also interior color might change, that would eb enough for me

[dense quartz]

Yeah I'm curious about the echo camps..

I also can't tell if that's a window back there.. spatially it wouldn't make sense for them to be there.

[uncut harness]

Looks like plants and boxes to me

[rustic haven]

Was about to say

[uncut harness]

I wonder if autophage camps will be updated

That's a good point that they use old cores, so probably they won't

[dense quartz]

I wanna know what's in the backrooms now, I doubt they'll still use the planetary outposts for the rooms. 👀
Also what that lift thing is next to the starship salvage.
Also what's on the 3rd floor on the left.

[rustic haven]

Old cores may still exist on abandoned stations/pirate stations

They can persist in the game without being updated

Though imagine, updated pirate system station

Or abandoned stations with dungeons like freighters

[dense quartz]

I hope the pirate stations are updated too but not abandoned ones.

[rustic haven]

That you override to get in

[ripe verge]

Who knows we maybe get our own space station

[rustic haven]

Wouldn't take it that far

[ripe verge]

Ikr

[rustic haven]

Maybe "claiming" but doubt you could do much

[dense quartz]

I've heard people talk endlessly about wanting to own space stations.
But like... settlements killed my hype for something like that.

[ripe verge]

I just want a garage

[rustic haven]

Like a freighter, have storage and modify color scheme if they give us ownership

[ripe verge]

More than 12 ships

All i need

[rustic haven]

I liked settlements, but to each their own

[dense quartz]

If we get to own space stations, I'm hoping they add a whole new gameplay mechanic to justify having them.
Dunno what that would be.. but I can't see myself being too excited over having a space station so I can have it..

[uncut harness]

A lot of NMS is about atmosphere, I think settlements deliver on that

I'd just want to see the stations I own in the galaxy map, like a bubble

[gloomy isle]

I could see owned space stations having similar benefits to freighters but better. Storage, passive income, build area/ room size and population being the main things I can think of

Also garages but idk lol

[rustic haven]

I don't see them letting us build in stations

[gloomy isle]

Imagine buying a station to turn it into a massive car park

[rustic haven]

Overrides are not particularly hard to get

[gloomy isle]

Me neither tbh. The only reason I think it would be the case is because of some datamined parts from endurance that never made it in

Like big elevators

[rustic haven]

I figured elevators where removed more for the aspect of having a moving component causing issues, so for example they went with teleports to the helm

[gloomy isle]

Maybe idk

[sand karma]

Building our own would be more feasible than owning the existing ones at least. 😄

[rustic haven]

That's even more farfetched, that's a whole new system to implement vs just allowing a building area

[gloomy isle]

I'm looking forward to the new stations and all but idk what gameplay they could possibly attach to them

[sand karma]

Haha yeah, from a technical perspective the game really can't currently have us own the existing ones. A building area isn't technically impossible, though I guess it would create even more lag where jumping to atmosphere. The game already struggles a bit with the anomaly.

[gloomy isle]

Also we don't really know they're coming with this update

[uncut harness]

It'll be great to read some patch notes

[gloomy isle]

For sure

[sour fossil]

Im afraid it will be settlements all over again

[ripe verge]

Sale started on PS

Update should be coming soon

[gloomy isle]

I'm assuming it'll be today, tomorrow at the latest

[wind panther]

Sometimes even the patch notes miss some things

[ripe verge]

Very soon

[sour fossil]

People will start complaining they have to work to make something out of stations

[fluid valley]

Base on surface already struggle to load sometimes for other players so in space...

[rustic haven]

Once again, don't see an issue with that because I like settlements 🤷

[sour fossil]

Instead being given S class +3509872498572498529458674 unit production per second on a silver plate

[sand karma]

Also not wrong 😄

[gloomy isle]

Sometimes the patch notes come way after the update too 😁

[dense quartz]

Did sales start for Xbox?
I think that's the only platform that still doesn't have sales going on.

[uncut harness]

No Xbox sale still

[dense quartz]

Uh oh.

[sand karma]

Like, I'd theoretically love to have them, but in the current state probably not. Best case scenario would be a hidden loading screen with 'instances' I guess. 😛

[rustic haven]

No xbox update for you rip

[gloomy isle]

Tbh I think if we have station bases they'll be like freighters in that they'll load up behind a door when you board

[uncut harness]

I'm on PC 😄

[fluid valley]

I had heard that the problem came from the fact that the data and bases were not loaded on all the instances at the same time

[gloomy isle]

Which would eliminate the loading issues they could pose when entering the system

[sand karma]

Freighters aren't permanent though. That trick wouldn't work as well with permanent bases. The anomaly for example is always partly loaded in once you hit atmosphere. Same with the space station, I believe. ^_^

[sand karma]

Ah, that makes sense

[uncut harness]

I would rather it be like settlements, I don't need another base

[gloomy isle]

Hmm maybe then idk. I assumed that since it was an interior you could load it up upon boarding

[dense quartz]

4 more hours...

[rustic haven]

It's likely they would conflict though 2 bases or more on one station would likely cause issues

[gloomy isle]

Ik the exterior stays loaded though