nms-spoilers

[hard stirrup]

Oh that sucks. No good at all. Hopefully it upgrades well with nanites but I'm not holding my breath. Most multitools, including staffs suffer a damage penalty when ugraded with nanites vs natural S spawns.

[sour fossil]

Weird that it seems to have a proc-gen name

Wondering if the whole staff gets proc-genned for each player

[indigo night]

maybe because of experimental trial

[hard stirrup]

I hope they fix this for the full release or at least ensure it scales well with nanites because as it stands this is terrible.

[indigo night]

Thats the name if you take from the QS Merchant

[hard stirrup]

But still terrible A class.

[indigo night]

I dont care if A or S .. it looks the same .. and its powerfull:)

[hard stirrup]

Super charged slot spread is also not great. This thing is really going to be vastly worse than the staff I already have. That's just so disappointing.

[sour fossil]

1st time an MT reward

1st time a unique staff model

1st time integrating tech outside of it's scope

But it ain't S class with 4 adjacent SC slots so it's automatically trash

Gotcha

[hard stirrup]

Kind of but not really...it has the cloaking beam of the Atlantid multitools which is...eh. Doesn't stack with the cloaking device...at best it saves you a slot if you use the cloaking device but minor benefit at most.

[cobalt siren]

Yo Im am so doing this expedition

A MULTITOOL as a reward??!!

That's so cool

How do I install the experimental branch?

[hard stirrup]

What makes this bad, besides super-charged slot placement, is that there is a damage nerf imposed on multitools upgraded to S with nanites vs identical multitools that are natural S spawns. Staffs suffer from it too. The only MT that I know of that doesn't get hit with the nerf are the royal multitools.

[uncut harness]

If you go to the steam community discussion, there is a post pinned that explains it

[cobalt siren]

thanks

[sour fossil]

!experimental

[cloud jolt]

to view, enable Link Preview

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[uncut harness]

Oh nice a command!

[sour fossil]

Yeah and none of that matters

Because you can melt all enemies with lousy upgraded mining beam

Theres nothing inherently bad in any type of MT

And all talk of how non optimal stuff is takes away from the fact how cool these rewards are

You good a better setup? Good for you, new players do not and they will gladly take an awesome looking staff like that

[uncut harness]

I don't even pay attention to stats, just get some S or X class upgrades and it destroys everything

Occasionally when I get some new ones I just compare the stats of what module to remove, but the actual real numbers don't matter

[hard stirrup]

They all matter imo...core multitool stats, module stats, and super-charged slot placement. Getting the best of all three areas is what makes the best multitools.

[uncut harness]

Best for what?

I think it's a fun aspect for sure if you like that

I don't think it's useless to do it at all, so I suppose I do understand why you'd care about the generation of a reward

[dense quartz]

I NEVER used to rename anything in this game cause there was absolutely no point.
....Then the wonders happened. Now every time I discover a wonder, I name it and give it the most stupidest name ever.

[gusty stream]

Does anyone have a pic of a pirate dreadnought hangar

[dense quartz]

I posted screenshots of it earlier today.

Here ya go.

[gusty stream]

That's the bridge not the hangar

[dense quartz]

Oh 😅

It's also just red.

The lighting in the hangar looks unfinished, hard to describe but there's no particles in it and everything looks a bit too bright.

[gusty berry]

huh

looks like they're cooking somethin

[analog breach]

They better be after all this time

[long barn]

Personally can't recall a time where a NMS update wasn't well cooked

[surreal terrace]

Visions

[gusty berry]

anyway we found more but it's just gonna say the same thing so I'm not bothering posting

[hallow patrol]

Hello, is anyone else having problems with the chandelier quest in the Omega expedition ?

[indigo night]

chandelier quest ?

[indigo night]

should be fixed with the latest patch .. maybe you need to close NMS and check if there is an update

Experimental Branch 08/02
Fixed an issue with the Expansion milestone

[hallow patrol]

Ok thanks

[indigo night]

Phase 2

[late tusk]

Grah to install unstable or not

😭

[indigo night]

apart from the bug in phase 2 (which has been very quick patched) it was very stable

[late tusk]

but my question is...

if i get a pirate freighter will it carry over to stable once it drops

[gloomy isle]

Any idea what this change could be?

[gusty berry]

yeah we have a pretty good idea

just read the property names and the param values

[dense quartz]

Aww I wanted to make a joke but the profanity filter didn't let me!

[gusty berry]

I'm sure ppl can figure it out eventually

[dense quartz]

[gusty berry]

if not HG'll get to making it a thing

[gloomy isle]

Looks like more cockpit variation?

Oh shit

Customisation

[dense quartz]

Yeah it just hit me..

[gloomy isle]

Yep that's straight up ship customisation

[dense quartz]

I kinda can't believe we'll ever get it.
The community was in a civil war for weeks when Waypoint changed max upgrades from 6 to 3.
..I can't imagine what the reaction would be towards ship customization.

[icy citrus]

Looks like we will find out

[gloomy isle]

Yeah it's a very divisive issue. I'm in 2 minds about it tbh

[icy citrus]

Keeping in mind there have been datamined things that never appear

[gusty berry]

yeah where's the fkin new space stations

[gloomy isle]

I can see the appeal of both ways tbh. I hope it's at least balanced

[gusty berry]

stop blueballing me

[dense quartz]

I just don't understand why it's "all or nothing" for people when it comes to ship customization.
Like, why couldn't we have a new customizable class while the current existing ships are unaffected?

That way we'd literally have both lol.

[gloomy isle]

I wonder if it might be like the autophage staffs

Where each station has a limited selection of parts or something

But it being its own class is my preferred solution tbh

[dense quartz]

The moment I saw how the staffs work I instantly assumed it was HG testing out how to implement ship customization. 😄

[dense quartz]

And they gave me the idea of only having a ship class that's customizable but not others.

[dense quartz]

Makes sense.. tho you'd think solars would also be customizable since they're considered like a common regular ship.

[analog breach]

My bet is ship color change

[dense quartz]

That's all I want, honestly.

[compact berry]

People should not complain if ship customization gets added. HG will balance it for sure and it will be optional

They know some people like to ship hunt as well they will find a way to appeal to both

And they know some people been wanting ship customization for a while

I think would be cool if we can look for parts for the ship while exploring

[dense quartz]

To this day I cannot comprehend the argument behind not adding ship customization.. I truly don't get it.

[gusty stream]

It's because ship hunting is a big hobby in this game

It's why bot located ships were shunned in NMSCE

Not defending a lack of customization btw the game really needs it

[dense quartz]

I get that but like, the option to customize a ship shouldn't affect the shit hunting playstyle, right?

[gusty stream]

It depends on how it's implemented

[dense quartz]

I mean.. are ship hunters really going to just stop playing the game the way they like even if nothing is getting in their way?

[gusty stream]

If customization is only for colors, then it'll still be in demand to look for good templates

[cobalt siren]

I think its rlly simple

People who like it can do it

people who dont can ignore it

Also I'm pretty sure if they do add customisation, the developers will be adding other gameplay features to balance out what was lost (ship hunting, maybe?)

[dense quartz]

Exactly. That's why I'm so confused why ship hunters are against it being added... you'd think they'd just not care but they actively detest the idea of a new optional playstyle.

[cobalt siren]

Yeah

It will be fine either way

Im pretty happy that we can own pirate deadnaughts now

[late tusk]

what

say it isnt so

time to check out experimental

😭 its all i ever wanted

how annoying is the exped

[pallid steppe]

I just want to be able to upgrade my freighters class with my millions of credits and thousands of nanites.
Customization is wanted, but my spit everything else I have is S except my dang freighter after hours of trying to find an S one.

[late tusk]

any way to save edit the new stuff?

[sweet brook]

And on that note there is something special about knowing your ship is natural ya know... If I had the patience to hut for a ship myself it would feel more special to me than one I built or customised

[sweet brook]

The time I spent getting S class freighters is.... a bit

[gusty stream]

Oh it's not gonna be fun finding my S class dreadnought

[dense quartz]

Dat easter egg tho.

[gusty stream]

Gek Danger

[late tusk]

gek

[dense quartz]

I wonder why the ship is Gek themed.
You got a new Gek decal on it, there's the Polo head bobble thingy in the cockpit.. 🤔

[late tusk]

los polo's hermanos

[dense quartz]

Friend, if you have a complaint, I will be happy to refer you to our terminal. Or not! Life is fun like that!

[late tusk]

X3

[prime inlet]

@mortal heath each of the optional milestones rewards something; not sure if i get the question?

up to you if you want to do them 🙂

they're not phase rewards, so they wouldn't be unlocked account wide

[dense quartz]

I think the optional milestones are required to unlock the new quicksilver items.

Which might be a first for NMS. 🤔

[unborn bough]

Oh wow! WOW!

[mortal heath]

So when I delete the Expedition save they'll disappear? I will delete it after the Expedition ends.

[mortal heath]

Since they're community milestones and they was around 10% when I shut the game down I wonder if they're going to get to 100%.

I'm thinking not a lot of people are playing the Expedition. The last time I went to the anomaly it was empty and my multiplayer was enabled. Considering it's for people on Experimental only

[prime inlet]

new quicksilver items? they're rewards like sentinel quad, worm egg - past exp rewards?

[twin oracle]

ight what r we thinkin this new update is gonna be?

[prime inlet]

we've got to remember one thing here - this is "a version of an upcoming expedition", no one said this is the exact expedition that will come out in a few days

only steam experimental players are playing this

no one else

[twin oracle]

yah ok but like ive been reading back a lil r we gonna bw able to fly pirate freighters finally or is that not happening?

[mortal heath]

yeah I know that. Someone earlier mentioned that we may not even be getting the rewards from this Expedition. Not sure how true that is.

[dense quartz]

Well the quicksilver progress bar seems to be linked with the optional expedition milestones anyway.

[prime inlet]

we don't know

[dense quartz]

You can fly into them and buy them in experimental.
New HUD message contextualizes them surrendering and their have their own unique interiors.

[twin oracle]

how do u claim a dreadnaught

[dense quartz]

Fight one, don't blow it up.

[twin oracle]

how do i access the experimental

[prime inlet]

well, yes, but, the optional milestones are of no concern, they're not required to complete the expedition, and so far every expedition - which this is a test for - has followed the rule of only phase and final rewards are unlocked account wide

[twin oracle]

cuz holy fucking shit that is cool

[dense quartz]

For some reason, I've told this to so many people and everyone blows it up and then asks how to claim something they destroyed..

[prime inlet]

what?

[dense quartz]

Yep. Posted screenshots of it yesterday.

I almost had a heart attack discovering that lol

[twin oracle]

ok how do i access the expiramental version?

[prime inlet]

how do i get it?

instead of destroying it, what do i do?

[unborn bough]

I want to know too

[twin oracle]

same

[prime inlet]

this ... i mean - this sounds like something they would make a big thing out of lol

[unborn bough]

Damage it enough? Also, is this only on experimental?

[twin oracle]

also how do i access the expiramental stuff as well im on pc but idk how

[dense quartz]

..I really wish I could pin my explanation. 🙃
Instead of destroying it, they surrender.
You can still blow them up if you take away all of their health. But before you take away all of their health, they surrender.
Then you can get in and buy the freighter.

[prime inlet]

it doesn't sound like this should be an experimental only thing

[unborn bough]

Currently, i meant

[dense quartz]

It's not related to the expedition, it's on experimental. It's just new upcoming content.

[twin oracle]

how does one access the expiramental stuff

[unborn bough]

The dreadnought seems to have landing bay in the images, so I am guessing we can board it.

[dense quartz]

Also the Atlas Path mission has been overhauled and explanded.
That's all I managed to find that's in the experimental build that hasn't been announced by HG. I don't even know if they know that this stuff is available to the public.

[twin oracle]

@dense quartz how do i enable into expiramental stuff im on pc but idk how

[dense quartz]

To go Steam, go to NMS properties, Betas, and type in (I think) "3experimental" and it'll give you the option to select experimental.

[twin oracle]

bet thank

[unborn bough]

FYI: Friend entity @prime inlet

• see #nms-spoilers message

[dense quartz]

That was a real magical moment when I landed in one and bought it btw...
I mean it wasn't announced or advertised. I had no idea there was anything to discover lol.
I'm now fully expecting it to be shown off properly in the next update.

[unborn bough]

Bet!

I also think there will be ship customization.

😄

[dense quartz]

If so, this will be the most insane update in years..
Overhualed space stations, owning pirate freighters, expanded Atlas Path, overhauled expedition saving and ship customization... that's nuts.

[unborn bough]

Yup! Although we don’t know if space stations will be overhauled just yet, or is it planned for the future.

[unborn bough]

[dense quartz]

That was quick. 🤣

[twin oracle]

what is a starseed plz explain

[dense quartz]

Does the freighter also go into combat mode the moment you buy it?

[unborn bough]

Well we have our ways.

[twin oracle]

my journey has ended

for months i have fought for this to be added

finally i shalt rest in peace

[unborn bough]

Lol! It’s not confirmed, I’ve only seen some game file additions shared here.

[prime inlet]

do not do this

it just messed up my save

[unborn bough]

[twin oracle]

what claiming pirate freighter?

[prime inlet]

i asked for payment

[twin oracle]

ima just only claim em

claiming has no found issues rite?

[unborn bough]

Oh bug! Report, report!

[dense quartz]

HG: "Which version did you experience this bug on?"

"The one that isn't technically out yet."

[twin oracle]

vrabo ur the pirate expert does claiming fuck up the save?

[prime inlet]

too big?

[dense quartz]

I claimed one and didn't mess up my save, but the freighter itself acts pretty derpy.

[twin oracle]

idc bout that i just want kewl freighter

beeg freiter go brr

[dense quartz]

OMG that video

[twin oracle]

ah, ima start a new save in that case or just wait for the full thing to be released

actually i have a save that i dont use anymore i could just use that lol

welp thats the plan for tonitw

[unborn bough]

I say it’s a thing in experimental so it’s going to be a thing in public as well, but let’s wait for HG to announce it.

[twin oracle]

yah but ima also screw round with it on my own

[unborn bough]

Maybe they added it accidentally, maybe it is not supposed to be out just yet.

[dense quartz]

Yeah I'm expecting the Atlas Path and pirate freighter stuff in the next update, but not sure about ship customization since it's just code stuff..

Yeah I'm not even sure if HG is aware we know this stuff lol.

[unborn bough]

lol

[prime inlet]

not if i can help it

[dense quartz]

Then again.. Sean is lurking on this server.

[unborn bough]

Lmfao

[twin oracle]

when u say ship customization do u mean like color changing or like full customization like building ur own starship

cuz if we get full building starship i might cry

[unborn bough]

There were cockpits in the game files under a new customization handle

I’m inclined to believe part swapping

[twin oracle]

ooh

[unborn bough]

Yeah! Vrabo even made a funny comment on that post 😅

[twin oracle]

is that like u can add fighter wings to an explorer ship or like snowspeeder to long on the same body of a fighter

[dense quartz]

Oh you saw it? I'm glad for that lol.

[unborn bough]

I see everything

Everything that happens in the server

[twin oracle]

do u think its like explorer cockpits onto fighters or just like the turret instead of duck on a hauler typa customization

[gloomy isle]

I wonder if the part swapping will use parts that exist already or if it will introduce new pieces

[dense quartz]

Ohhh that be a great opportunity for new pieces!

[prime inlet]

bug report submited

[twin oracle]

im so hyped for this update man it just looks awesome

[dense quartz]

I have a theory that during 2019-2021 they were heavily focused on LNF and that was the reason why NMS was getting all those half-baked random updates.
Ever since early 2022, they completely abandoned the "little updates and one huge update a year" model and just started giving us large updates. And the best part is they're not adding random stuff but deepening existing stuff and adding content and enhances what already exists in the game.

[ripe verge]

Anyone got the new ship?

I wanna see it's SC slots

[dense quartz]

I'm not in game right now, but I can telll you it comes with the Polo bobblehead, the most important addition.

[ripe verge]

I have dat unlocked

Once you play please check if it has good SC or no

[summer hearth]

we can get pirate dreadnoughts in the new update?

at least the experimental

[twin oracle]

yes

[summer hearth]

finally

my prayers have been answered

time to farm for an S class

[twin oracle]

we dont know if its staying or not

[summer hearth]

it better damn stay

[twin oracle]

also known glitch dont request payment it fs up the save

[summer hearth]

i mean its experimental thats to be expected

[twin oracle]

just claim and would also b careful

[summer hearth]

i dont care if they have to refine it or delay it

just as long as i can be a dread pirate

[dense quartz]

I think they put in too much work for it to be scrapped.
Different victory system and HUD, the ability to land in them, different dialogue, whole new type of interiors.. no way it's not getting included eventually.

[hard stirrup]

I REALLY hope people have reported this to Hello Games. Owning pirate freighters is highly desired by a lot of players(me included) but people will engage with them after getting the one they want too and it would be insane if someone lost a save of thousands upon thousands of hours over a conversation choice.

[gusty stream]

They'll fix it

[twin oracle]

its in expi rn theyll fix it b4 release

[hard stirrup]

Yeah but people have to tell Hello Games of the bugs they find. Especially something as bad as one's save being messed up. I genuinely hope Hello Games are aware of this.

[twin oracle]

its been reported already

[hard stirrup]

What did it do to saves though? Full on corrupted saves or did it overwrite their existing freighters anyway or what?

[twin oracle]

visual glitch

[hard stirrup]

Ok that still sounds bad. I always do but I have to be sure to be extra careful to back up my saves before I mess with these freighters after the update goes live.

[uncut harness]

I'm hoping for ship racing. Not holding my breath though, and I don't know why I'd want it. Although a nexus racing mission with stangers would be shweet

[dusky gazelle]

Holy crap...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxLsuKwyOdw

[uncut harness]

the little atlas pack telamon is cute as hell, looks like the Sentinel Summoner

[dusky gazelle]

I've been playing the experimental. Just don't want to dive to far into it since I play normally on my Series X. I don't want to dump time into rewards that I won't actually use.

[uncut harness]

I've heard mixed statements about if getting the rewards is possible without cheating them in

[dusky gazelle]

I got the helmet

[uncut harness]

Oh alright, I understand then

[dusky gazelle]

I've finished the first 2 stages

I want the pirate dreadnaught.... can't wait for that grind.

[uncut harness]

I feel like there is a lot to look forward to, who knows what else is coming

I love speculation, even wild stuff

[dusky gazelle]

There was no mention of owning a pirate dreadnaught in the experimental notes.... Who knows what else is hidden in plain sight right now.

[unborn bough]

The new Atlas themed customization parts are super cool

But dreadnought is a surprise for everyone.

There’s also that little mention of several cockpits under a new tag in the game files.

GCCustomizationShipParts(?) or something

[dense quartz]

Every single thing I noticed:

• short range portal in anomaly and the terminal
• brand new objective markers in various parts of the game and new objective descriptions
• new pirate surrender mechanic, ability to enter their freighter and buy it
• Atlas Path mission has been overhauled and expanded with the ability to show the Atlas our custom wonders
• Starships now display liftoff startup progress

[unborn bough]

We’ve finally got it, friend entity.

[unborn bough]

Have you acquired and flown the new ship? How does it feel?

[dense quartz]

It's kinda like the speeder, the maneuverability is insane and accelarates and breaks in a second.

It also hovers when landed.

[unborn bough]

When landed?

Like living ship?

[dense quartz]

Much more pronounced. Like the thrusters are keeping it in the air and it actually wiggles around in the air, whereas the living ship is sorta more stationary.

[unborn bough]

Ooh! That’s interesting. Can you share a pic please?

[uncut harness]

I can't wait to read patch notes, it's my favorite part

[unborn bough]

Definitely agreeing to this. 😁

[dense quartz]

IT LOOKS LIKE AN ANGRY POTATO.

[unborn bough]

Angry potato wedge.

Hahahahaha!

[dense quartz]

Here ya go.

Also that Expedition 2 Mass Effect crossover can go to hell. THIS is the most ambitious crossover in gaming history.

[unborn bough]

Thank you

[dense quartz]

I just realized one of the stairs on the bridge is invisible lol.

[dusky gazelle]

The S-class grind for the dreadnaught is going to be a pain.

[summer hearth]

when this shit gets released public im gonna grind the fuck out of it

its vaguely pyramid shaped

[heavy light]

Another experimental

[unborn bough]

What is this?

[unborn bough]

LOOOOOOL!

[summer hearth]

the black fleet pyramids from destiny 2

[unborn bough]

Not NMS, not even spoiler category. You know how it goes, traveler.

Gotta haveta yeet it. 🙂

[sour fossil]

Has anyone mentioned the Nvidia goodies yet?

[summer hearth]

cant have shit in the euclid galaxy

[sour fossil]

The language files show options for || DLSS Frame Gen and Reflex Low Latency ||

[unborn bough]

Oooo! Oooo!

NMS already has DLAA, so!

[sour fossil]

Also a new preset called Automatic

[unborn bough]

That’s all DLSS related. Maybe DLSS 3.0?

Frame gen is 3.0

[sour fossil]

🤷

[unborn bough]

Yeah!

[sour fossil]

I'm just hoping my GTX 1660 Mobile will be still enough lol

[unborn bough]

But since NMS has DLAA it’s not a huge upgrade.

[sour fossil]

Other tidbits I've found

Looks like Wonder list will || show the Galaxy name where the wonder was discovered and in case of Expedition game mode - which exped it was ||

[unborn bough]

Nice!

[sour fossil]

And for avid base builders || game will tell them they have hit the limit of bases on current save when trying to register a new base ||

Still the biggest suprise for me is HG expanding on the Atlas Path

[dense quartz]

Sean my traveler in Atlas, thank you.

Now if only we can get the galaxy name in photo mode too..

Man all these datamines and seeing some of this stuff in the experimental build got me so hyped..

[sour fossil]

People: excited
Mod authors: not so much

Lotsa file tinkering behind the scenes took place

A friendly reminder to wait for mods to be updated

The risk of game crashing when using outdated mods for the coming update will be even greater than usually

[dense quartz]

That's.. exciting. 👀

I find it nifty how over the years I've had to use less and less QoL mods due to HG just adding the features into the game.

[sour fossil]

And for my Project Apollo: don't expect an update soon

I have to figure out all the changes HG has done to mission structures

Most probably I won't even be able to compile the current "source code" due to missing data

[dense quartz]

I just realized something important, modders aren't people!

[unborn bough]

What’s this expansion like?

[heavy light]

A few new tooltips
And after you complete it you can show him wonders for nanites

[unborn bough]

Until now we had to build stuff, birth a new star. So what’s next?

[unborn bough]

Oohhhhh!

[heavy light]

Could be more but that’s what I remember

[unborn bough]

Yes! As you can see FriendlyFire is “modded”. They’re definitely a cyborg or an android. Not people.

[sour fossil]

Also looks like there will be new unique exosuit tech paired with that new Atlas Path stuff

Mark of the Denier

[heavy light]

Pffft, did you just change that

[unborn bough]

Point to be noted is they’re different from Korvax. They are PCEU, whereas Korvax are EHEU.

[heavy light]

Lmao

[sour fossil]

modhelp dad jokes in spoiler channel by Mythos

[unborn bough]

Nope! They’ve been modded for a long time.

[heavy light]

Ohh

Oh yeah

[unborn bough]

Dude! Spoiler tag this.

[heavy light]

I thought it was modder before

[unborn bough]

Modest FF?

[heavy light]

Modder

[sour fossil]

Yeah can't be me

[dense quartz]

Are we really getting a choice to side with the atlas or void mother? I've heard speculations about somehing like that for a while now.

[heavy light]

My autocorrect no like me

[sour fossil]

I haven't seen anything like that in language files yet

Though I haven't checked the yesterdays update

There was a change to 1 language file

But it could be anything, from new lines of dialogue to fixed typos

[summer hearth]

i wonder if we will be able to paint the pirate dreadnoughts

[dense quartz]

Apparently you can.

When I tried it, it was just black for me, but I guess that was due to the crap lighting.

[summer hearth]

you can change sun direction in photo mode

[dense quartz]

Yes but not when you're recoloring the freighter.

[summer hearth]

you could apply the colors and then photo mode

[dense quartz]

Yeah I guess so. 🤔
Still silly that the freighter doesn't go into fullbright or something when viewing it from the customization menu.

[summer hearth]

if you cant paint them i hope they add it in the release

i need to give it the red color scheme of my current fleet

[dense quartz]

http://puu.sh/K0zKH/c2bfc746cf.jpg

I had no idea the camera changes when it's close to a planet like that.

[arctic pivot]

I need to know if the big guns work tho

If they do im gonna look for dreadnoughts to defeat

If they are below im gonna go out and destroy it

[dense quartz]

When you're on the freighter, the markers to destroy them are still on screen lol.
And you can't damage your freighter when you own it.

I dunno if the guns work.. there was something exciting I saw when I bought it.
The freighter instantly went into combat mode but the laser cannons moved and aimed around. I didn't know they could do that.

[dense quartz]

Yup! You can recolor them in 3 parts.

[summer hearth]

can you change the pattern or is it just like that

[dense quartz]

That's the pattern.

Another thing I noticed is I think the cannon placement got changed.. there's just one of them at the very end of the freighter, but there's now 5 of them in the back.

[summer hearth]

wasnt it always like that?

it has 6 cannons

2 on the back, 3 in the middle and 1 on the very front

[dense quartz]

Yeah but their placements have changed I think.

5 in the back and one at the front.

[summer hearth]

uh no

[dire drum]

I’m curious if the cannons are as dangerous as they are normally

[summer hearth]

its always like that

[dense quartz]

Huh, I could've sworn it was different.. 🤔

[summer hearth]

no

i grinded like 5 hours for an S class resurgent

i know what pirate freighters look like like the back of my hand

[sour fossil]

Well TBH that is kinda needed

There must be some way to differentiate player-owned dreadnought from NPC-owned one in MP scenario

Same how the player owned hardframe exosuits are blue, Sentinel ones are red

[dire drum]

The sentinel ones are more orange, but yeah. I also think it’s to prevent you getting startled by your own Minotaur

[summer hearth]

Probably wont work most of the time because the freighter is still mostly black

[dense quartz]

http://puu.sh/K0zOq/4e93b061c7.jpg

I love how it just picks random wonders to show off.

[heavy light]

lmao

your naming is hilarioud

[dense quartz]

A perfectly justified response.

[long barn]

I feel that

[sour fossil]

every thing in existence felt that

[summer hearth]

Bro disappointed its god

[dense quartz]

I kind of name everything in statements for some reason.

[long barn]

[dire drum]

I’m a big fan of Gordon Freeman

[dense quartz]

OH I just realized something. You don't have to take out the fuel rods at all to get the pirates to surrender.
Just taking out the laser cannons and warp engines is enough.

[long barn]

So fuel rods to kill it
Incapacitated to claim

[dense quartz]

Yeah. Seems so.

Thought some other times I left the cannons alone and only destroyed the engines and fuel rods.

[long barn]

It'll be a damage check then for it

Updates gotta be going public soon though right?

[dense quartz]

Probably next week.

Like the day after this test expedition ends.

[heavy light]

Lmao

[dense quartz]

Another odd thing I noticed.. if the pirates surrender and you blow them up anyway, you don't get awarded anything even thought the HUD says you should.

[dense quartz]

😄

[indigo night]

Whats the difference between Trade in Price and Cost ?
Omega has better stats (and is cheaper) as the ship you would get from OS Merchant...

Because of maneuverability ?

[sour fossil]

Shows up as exotic?

[hard stirrup]

This isn't an official crossover though. This is merely inspired by. Similar to the titanworm update launching around the same time as the Dune movie...some clear inspiration but no official collaboration as they had done with Mass Effect.

[dense quartz]

Ruin my dumb joke why don't you.

[hard stirrup]

I bet that text was written very specifically to account for names like that. Hello Games are on to you, man.

[indigo night]

yeah ..

[hard stirrup]

Does the pirate freighter still aggro to everything around it or did today's patch fix that?

[dense quartz]

Dunno, I only bought one and don't think to do it again. 🤔

[arctic pivot]

By existing your standing goes down

Cool

[dense quartz]

Wait what?

[arctic pivot]

If your freighter shot at everything in range then it would bring down standing

[dense quartz]

It does? Because I haven't noticed.

[hard stirrup]

Wasn't it you who said the owned pirate freighter would constantly keep shooting? Someone said that yesterday, I thought it was you, but maybe I'm missremembering.

[dense quartz]

I did, but I don't understand what you mean about standing going down.

[hard stirrup]

I didn't say that, @arctic pivot did on the assumption that if your freighter killed NPC ships it would harm standing...but since the freighter attacking stuff is a bug I doubt the freighter's kills would be attributed to the player to incur standing penalty.

[arctic pivot]

No harm done then

[dense quartz]

It wasn't really doing anything. Just literally firing at nothing in every possible direction.

And it was only when I bought it. Space combat has been pretty damn buggy ever since Echoes launched..
Hopefully the new update will actually address it.

[hard stirrup]

Ah ok, that was my misunderstanding then. I was under the impression that when it fired it would do so to attack ships nearby.

[summer hearth]

are you gonna be able to change the glow color on pirate dreadnoughts?

or is that a permanent feature

[ripe verge]

Anyone got the SC slots of new ship?

[rustic haven]

I think I had that happen outside of experimental about 6-7 months ago. May be a persisting glitch that occurs since the ship still thinks its in a fight

[dense quartz]

Yeah the pirate freighter fights have been bugged ever since they've been introduced. The game thinks it's still going even after it ends.

[rustic haven]

Also left teleport is gone, seems entire left side is

[dense quartz]

Oh yeah, I wonder what that's about. 🤔

I guess pirates have a thing for removing stuff lol. Like the space stations just having less landing pads.

[ripe verge]

Disappointed with SC slots ngl

[lime birch]

Does it have a new cockpit?

[dense quartz]

Yup. New sounds too.

[sour fossil]

It's interesting to see

The Racer or whatever its name is

[analog breach]

New cockpit? Very cool. Would be nice if exotics got new cockpits too

[sour fossil]

Has different SC slot layout than the other unique ships

Golden Vector, Utopia Speeder (and possibly Switch Rasa) have the same SC slot layout

This one has not

[analog breach]

Good

[heavy light]

Starborn Runner

[ripe verge]

It counts as an exotic

Starborn runner is an exotic for some reason

[gloomy isle]

Tbf it looks badass

Definitely gonna be collecting it

[ripe verge]

Same

[icy citrus]

Need more ship slots now

[heavy light]

And MT slots

[ripe verge]

Trueeeeeeeee

[heavy light]

Theres 8 different MT types and one unique and we can only have 6

[dense quartz]

And character slots. With thumbnails.

[ripe verge]

I don't know what to sacrifice

[hard stirrup]

I would share that sentiment if not for one thing...this is not a fighter or a type of ship that has one big strength. This is an exotic type ship...which is by definition a jack of all trades with high bonuses to everything but not the best at anything. So I don't feel compelled to concentrate all the SC slots for one tech only. For this ship I think 2 SC slots for the main weapon, one for hyperdrive tech, and one for shields will do nicely. A solid bonus to all the important bits.

[ripe verge]

What i sacrafice

[ripe verge]

It was me before I knew it was an exotic

[ripe verge]

For atlas sphere staff

It can reach upto 152k dmg

EZ

[gloomy isle]

If we ever own stations I'd love for them to have big ship storage

[hard stirrup]

Definitely the experimental pistol...has some of the lowest core stats of all MT types, not comparable to experimental rifles which have the best scanning bonus and decent damage...but experimental pistols get almost no scaling from class. They're basically the worst.

[ripe verge]

The one which looks like normal but has spikes

Or one which is a green alien

[hard stirrup]

Middle bottom.

[ripe verge]

The godslayer @hard stirrup

[hard stirrup]

Yeah.

[ripe verge]

Damn

That's the normal tool

Metasis is an experimental

[hard stirrup]

I guess it's normal but has the same aesthetic as experimetal rifles but is pistol size. It's the default starting MT although color might vary. That entire line of starting pistols is basically no good.

[hard stirrup]

The game classifies it as a pistol. At S class it is the ONLY MT type than receives no damage bonus whatsoever, has a top mining bonus of 35% which is solid, second best behind Atlantid MTs(of which you own one), and has a max scanning bonus of 50% while experimental and royal MTs(of which you own one each) have +100% scanning bonus guaranteed at S class. So yeah...overall a pretty bad MT. Even before the Atlantid MTs were added, keeping a MT purely on the strength of mining bonus was dubious at best.

[ripe verge]

Demn

It was my jumper tool ig

But alien will be the one ig

[hard stirrup]

The 35% mining bonus of pistols is also only 5% higher than royal and experimental, which is a very low margin but royal and experimental get 15% damage bonus vs 0% pistol and 100% scanning bonus vs 50% pistol. And you also have the Atlantid MT which has 50% mining bonus, 20% damage, and 50% scanning.

[hard stirrup]

I would have binned it at the first opportunity for pretty much any non-pistol MT.

[ripe verge]

Scanning for staff?

[hard stirrup]

50% but staffs and sentinel MTs have the best damage bonus in the game at 50%.

[sour fossil]

Folks I dont wanna sound like a d!ck but general discussion about MTs can take place in main chat or in the ⁠multitool channel

[late tusk]

So i played a tiny bit of experimental

Got a pirate freighter then swapped back to stable. As long as i dont play until update i should be good

[gloomy isle]

What does the hangar look like?

[mental socket]

regular freighter hangar with red lights

spookiiii

[late tusk]

Red with pirate flags

Command room is red

[wind panther]

Hmm, the new ship has at least one new material effect, parallax mapping

[crude sand]

Beans

[wind panther]

Have to play with it to see what it does

Tested reskinning the racer ship
#nms-modding message

[crude sand]

Oh damn, looks cool af

[gloomy isle]

Huh neat!

[mental socket]

did you see the ship customization stufffff? owo

maybe this year

[gloomy isle]

I wonder if that'll eventually come to other ships as a visual upgrade

[wind panther]

I did see it mentioned, but Mjstral said the ship customization entity still crashes. They could be getting ready for something like that, but who knows. The data structures apparently only support it for the 4 main ship types

[gloomy isle]

Tbh only having the regular ships customisable is a good tradeoff imo

Since that leaves the fancier ship types as things you have to hunt

[sour fossil]

I don't know how one would go about living ship customization

Pretty sure there is something against practices needed for that in Geneva convention

Exotics sound like made of otherworldly materials nobody knows how to mend

Interceptors, similar to LSs, but as mechanical entities

[crude sand]

That’s why we have pirates to do that for us.

They may not be qualified but they will sure as shit try

For a price, money or blood

[gloomy isle]

Living ship made of geks

[runic mesa]

I hope HG get pressured to add more MT slots when (if) the Atlas staff comes out. There's already too much choice for just six slots. I just scrapped my royal to free up space for an Atlantid. But now holding off since that slot will go to the staff...

[crude sand]

And 1 x ship slot pls

Pretty pls with a cherry on top

[runic mesa]

Ideally 24 ship slots and 12 MT would feel less suffocating. But if it increases, it's likely going to be 15 and 9.

[crude sand]

Gimme just 1

[sour fossil]

Wondering if I'll live to see the day when community stops asking about more slots lol

[crude sand]

Thing is

You won’t

😂

[runic mesa]

Not a chance. The game attacts too many collectors lol

[gloomy isle]

I mentioned in #nms-the-future that they could do display cases and showrooms for ships

Could double as a way to have unlimited ships and multitools and a way to decorate you base with them

[zenith perch]

God what a pointless bunch of whining that was

[dense quartz]

The "loud minority" which was the whole entire community talking about it and nothing else for 3+ weeks.

[gloomy isle]

The new system with supercharged slots is far better imo

[cursive bay]

Experimental got the new update 1.8gb size. What is changed/added?

[livid zinc]

🤔
https://youtu.be/j09RffLT_lE?si=Xz4ArmdQ2liZhKWm

[cobalt siren]

Do I trust this guy tho

[tawdry quarry]

yeah, news tickers been going wild the last few days

no, dude loves making every title bait

[cursive bay]

Video seems legit

He shows parts of new ships

The intro is too long tho

[cobalt siren]

btw can we get pirate dreadnaughts in a normal save file or just expedition files

[cursive bay]

normal saves on exp - yes

[cobalt siren]

so only if I finish the expedition and onvert it to a normal save?

[cursive bay]

??

[analog breach]

Normal saves on experimental branch

[cobalt siren]

oh

Sweet

[gloomy isle]

There's certainly pointers to ship customisation in there

It it's not confirmed yet

[icy citrus]

Don't believe anything till it's in the game

Looking at you wind turbines

[gloomy isle]

^

[cobalt siren]

what

[gloomy isle]

And freighter elevators 😦

[icy citrus]

We get datamined stuff that never makes it

[cobalt siren]

did ppl think wind turbines were gonna be a thing

[icy citrus]

They were datamined

[cobalt siren]

Oh

[icy citrus]

Just like these "modular" ships

[cobalt siren]

I can see why you'd think that's basically confirmation at the time

[gloomy isle]

Plus stuff like multitool colour customisation has been in the files since like 2018

[cobalt siren]

Maybe theyre just assets the procdural algorithm uses?

[icy citrus]

Had a ship customizer for awhile in there too

[gloomy isle]

Yeah

[gloomy isle]

I thought so too but there's specific references to a customiser

That being said, even if it's coming it could be during summer too

[analog breach]

Yep. Datamined things dont meam much untill official annoucement

[icy citrus]

People making big jumps about what that means too

[cobalt siren]

Maybe customistion will be similar to exocraft customisation

[icy citrus]

Could just be decals and such, yeah

[cobalt siren]

where u dont change the ship itself but just its colours and maybe a decal

Decal on ships is cool

Isnt htere one on the new ship

[analog breach]

Puting declas on ships would be nice feature

You can kinda do it now. But it stays in air after you move ship

[safe kiln]

the engine flames he shows are just the racer engine and the utopia speeder engine

[safe kiln]

the code snippet posted makes reference to those assets, but it's possible that they're getting reused here.

personally I don't think the "barebones" ships that are showcased really indicate anything in this regard

all of the ships are already technically modular

[wind panther]

The racer has several decals, though not procedural, just a bunch of stickers all over it

I do think they're looking at a new ship customization system, or they wouldn't have spent the time restructuring things like this. However, they've looked at it before and never did anything with it. They could have turned customized colors on at any point in the last several years and chose not to, so that says a lot.

The save file has supported customized colors as long as I can remember, the net code just doesn't synch it in multiplayer

[analog breach]

For now.

[uncut harness]

As much as i love the new ship, i shake my fist at content thats not procedually generated

[gusty stream]

Doesn't it have the photonix core installed

That's very worth it

[wind panther]

Yes

[icy citrus]

So

Using our main save - does this mean we will get any further Expedition tech without shenanigans?

[gusty stream]

I dont think you can package some of the tech

[icy citrus]

Most of it is blueprints though

Gimmie

[gusty stream]

Oh lvl up

[gusty stream]

Do you keep the blueprints though?

[icy citrus]

You learn them same way as any of them, but of course that was on a new save

[glad kernel]

Can I share the glyphs of pirate freighter in #nms-legacy-ships channel now?

[icy citrus]

If you don't mention we are gonna be getting them

[glad kernel]

Such as this...I think this maybe a type of spoiler😂

[cursive bay]

ayo

[icy citrus]

Yeah it is lol

[cursive bay]

600 mil?

[analog breach]

Because added slots

Normal freighters also will reach 600mil

[late tusk]

Lool

[sour fossil]

Random ass spoiler pulled from random ass mission file: || there will be expeditions where HG is planning to NOT let players get access into the Space Anomaly ||

[late tusk]

I want to upgrade freighter class/slots with units

[icy citrus]

Didn't we already have one?

Why is my name this

I blame you all

[compact coyote]

Modular ship parts? I might shed a tear

https://x.com/bomber_that/status/1755859715962073595?s=46&t=loZrYcFkO3xgtKV5rKCH8g

ThatBomberBoi (@bomber_that) on X

#NoMansSkySpoilers
There are modular ship part descriptors alongside other customization options present in the experimental, such as the multitool staff, player character customization parts, pet accesories, vehicle decals etc

Twitter · Feb 9, 2024, 7:42 AM

[sour fossil]

Yup, when HG introduced staff assembly, they put the configuration bits into some global variable file

Which was kinda ... weird? Like "let's yeet it here, if it works, we keep it here"

Now they have a whole dedicated file / library to "building stuff from parts"

And inside that new file, we see groups that hint on assembling ships from pre-made parts

[icy citrus]

When station building

Why is my name still this

Ok good

[sour fossil]

Yes we had one, but HG added a new number to the list of "no Nexus expeds"

[gloomy isle]

I did have a feeling that they were testing some ideas with those staffs

[sour fossil]

The comment on this changed from if in s9, wait forever to never proceed in some seasons

[icy citrus]

Woot

Confirmation of more after this

16 expeditions

[uncut harness]

I've been imagining an Elite Dangerous style bubble territory system for taking over systems 😅

No idea why you'd even do it

[gloomy isle]

If station owning and ship building are coming (BIG if), I wonder if you'd have to own a station to make one

[sour fossil]

That would kinda make sense

[uncut harness]

The game does say systems are in regions of space though, so if you could take over stations and name the "region" of your owned stations

[sour fossil]

You'd need proper processing and machinery power to build a starship

And an owned space station might provide just that

[uncut harness]

Would be an interesting tie in for a settlement, if they produce materials that can be automatically shipped to stations

[gloomy isle]

Plus it's a barrier for entry to the feature which would balance it a bit

[uncut harness]

I do hope we get racing this year though

I could definitely imagine that not being part of this update, but it'd be huge if we got, new stations, racing, ship customization parts, owning dreadnaughts, and the expedition overhaul

huge

[civic badge]

Does anyone know or can point me in the direction of patch notes/ideas of what is in the experimental patch?

[uncut harness]

!experimental

[cloud jolt]

to view, enable Link Preview

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[sour fossil]

And folks, please, for the love of all thats holy and the opposite

Gleam sorry for caps but it's needed

DO NOT

I REPEAT, DO NOT

[civic badge]

Ah yeah okay I was monitoring this already, but thank you! Just wasn't sure if I should avoid doing some things atm as I don't know what was added in the latest patch

[sour fossil]

Run older versions of mods once the new update lands on public

[icy citrus]

Gl

[sour fossil]

There are so. many. changes in the files

You are 120% sure to crash when trying to load a mod that was not updated for new version of the game

[gloomy isle]

Yeah I'm defo getting rid of my freighter mod. I'll try my luck with my colour and terrain mods in creative but I'm not holding my breath lol

[uncut harness]

I only have Grah water as a mod

[sour fossil]

Literally looking at 1 line of code that will force all "better reward" mods to be updated

[late tusk]

So do people keep progress/rewards or is it reset when update is public

:(

[dense quartz]

I'm currently downloading a 2GB patch?
I dunno if it's yesterday's milestone fix or something new that hasn't been described by HG yet.

[late tusk]

Ill wait for public since i got a pirate freighter then went to stable so i dont wanna break it

[sour fossil]

Today HG released a new exped build with no patch notes so far

[civic badge]

The milestone fix was released yesterday, this is new/unknown

Not being able to see the details of an uploaded planet is new, right?

[gloomy isle]

Do you think the timer reduction stuff will be fine?

I'm not touching my settlement without it 😂

[dense quartz]

Imagine this new patch takes out Atlas Path additions and pirate freighter owning.

[sour fossil]

As in mission timer reduction?

Oooohhh boi

The mission files were changed the most

[dense quartz]

Do tell?

[compact coyote]

Notice how the Starborn runner is called a “spacecraft” in NMS while everything else is a “starship”

[sour fossil]

Because of HG plans to allow to launch expeditions from existing saves, each mission structure has lots of new properties related to expeditions, even missions from core gameplay like Artemis Path

Gameplay wise probably nothing will change

But mod-wise, if you use a mod that works by modifying those mission files (like the Starbirth quest with its timers), it's gonna be broken

[tawdry quarry]

best addition yet

[compact coyote]

Probably means nothing but it’s worth noting

[tawdry quarry]

hate making a new game solely for expeditions

[dense quartz]

Yeah, I'm happy they are giving us the option to start expeditions on existing saves.

HELLO.

[sour fossil]

Oh that's nice

[late tusk]

I swear to atlas

[uncut harness]

exchaning charts for other charts?

[sour fossil]

Exchange charts means pay nav data

[uncut harness]

What's that screenshot about then?

[sour fossil]

Artifact Chart

https://gamertweak.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/How-To-Find-New-Planetary-Settlements-NMS-Best-Ones-To-Seize.jpg

Before they had 5 charts, now they offer 6

[sour fossil]

There are 2 pages?

2 dots on the scroll bar

[uncut harness]

Go to page 2!

[icy citrus]

The upgrade one is new also

[dense quartz]

Yeah there's 2 pages now cause there's just that many charts now.
Back in my day there were only 4 of them and we were perfectly FINE with it!

[sour fossil]

Nope, exosuit upgrade was a thing already

[analog breach]

Dig site? Ruins ? Or new poi 🤔

[dense quartz]

You can still unlock and interact with everything through the ground without having to dig whatsoever.

[icy citrus]

Not according to this

[sour fossil]

I pulled random ass screenshot from web

[dense quartz]

I dunno why there's a dedicated chart for this site... it hasn't been touched since NEXT I think? There's no way they're changing them too for this update, right..?

[icy citrus]

You what mate

[analog breach]

New types of ruins would be nice. More variety

[dense quartz]

You know what would be awesome if it got more variety?

Yes.

[icy citrus]

Well, I haven't seen the exosuit one

[dense quartz]

It's been added in Waypoint I believe.

[sour fossil]

Public build

[dense quartz]

And drop pods got a little update too.

[late tusk]

Cant wait for next week

[mental socket]

does anyone have pic of the new starships cockpit?

[icy citrus]

Banned for proving me wrong

[sour fossil]

... again?

[icy citrus]

Yes

[sour fossil]

At this rate I'll never get to 100

[icy citrus]

[dense quartz]

Not sure if helpful.

[mental socket]

Ooh. So it's the regular fighter cockpit

[dense quartz]

Woop, a bit zoomed out.

[dire drum]

Looks similar to the Utopia Speeder cockpit

[icy citrus]

Normal fighter

[uncut harness]

whoops

[dense quartz]

Hey look, freighter to station docking.

One can hope.

[uncut harness]

That's a sick picture

[icy citrus]

Jesus our frigates look even sillier

[dense quartz]

This whole freighter is just insane. Especially when you're in your base and you go outside and just look at the view. Your freighter0s surface is like a large city.

[analog breach]

Would be cool if pirate freighter had own interior design look.

[sour fossil]

Imagine going back in time to 2020

Showing the new additions to the players

pulls a dreadnought pic this is my freighter

pulls the Runner pic and this is my ship, still gotta work on it a bit to get that 120 cargo

[arctic pivot]

Just to be clear, will the Dreadnought overhaul release next update or is it not "confirmed"

[dense quartz]

They do!

[sour fossil]

Nothing is confirmed yet

It will be confirmed only when HG puts it in the patch notes for the new update

[analog breach]

And trailer

[sour fossil]

We had random stuff in game files for years

[arctic pivot]

But since its in the experimental then i guess it will come out at some point

Maybe?

[sour fossil]

No guarantee

[dense quartz]

I don't think there's ever really been an experimental update with this much random and bit QoL stuff all over the place though.
The only thing I can recall was a flamethrower for the multitool that was available in the game but got taken out quickly. But all this stuff is nuts compared to that one thing.

[long barn]

I miss that flamethrower

[gusty stream]

I will never not flex over owning one

[rustic haven]

It feels like those custom specialty ships tbh, a single model with no randomization or uniqueness. I love the model and definetly will use it as a cap, but it doesn't feel too "special" to me if that makes sense.

[gusty stream]

At least you can change the color a bit

[gloomy isle]

I feel like building on it kinda makes up for it

It's the same exterior but the inside is still gonna be unique

[uncut harness]

they're mentioned as racers too, I wonder what that means

[rustic haven]

Yeah that's true, most caps are similar enough anyways that they are not really a hunted for design type thing

[gloomy isle]

Yeah true

The only difference outside of colour is length really

Maybe pod shape too? I don't remember

[dire drum]

This was seen in the trailer, in the station

It could be a racing stall

[uncut harness]

Like a ship in front of a black circle

Maybe there are race tracks/missions 🙏🏻 and that's where you customize your racer

Racers guild!

😅

[analog breach]

🎌

[uncut harness]

That seems equally as accurate!

[cunning crow]

So is there only one style of the pirate freighter or is that still an unknown?

[analog breach]

Only one

[dense quartz]

Am I going insane or is the ambient music different?

It's like the usual tracks have new sounds added in.

[analog breach]

I dont hear any music. Youre insane 🤪

But its ok. Were all mad here 🤪

[gloomy isle]

That actually makes sense

It could be ship customisation maybe but I don't see why that couldn't be at the ship tech guy

[analog breach]

Maybe Pimp my ship option would be accesible from ship scraping station

[uncut harness]

My assumption is that ship customization is not coming to every ship since there were parts with specific lables for "wracer"

[dense quartz]

No way. 👀

I've been hoping for a while now that if ship customization comes that it's only limited to a few ship types.

[uncut harness]

Me too honestly

or 1 ship type at first

So we can see how it goes

[compact coyote]

Seriously?

So it can’t land on planets? That’s interesting

[sour fossil]

It lands

It doesn't have landing gear, it hovers when parked

Kinda like Living Ships

[dense quartz]

I always considered living ships to land, but they just sorta wiggle around.
The new racer ship is much more obviously floating anyway.

Derp.

[hallow patrol]

Hey does anyone have a mod to disable overcharged of technologies for the experimental version ?

[compact coyote]

Beautiful

[sour fossil]

Oh there are gonna be some sick screenshots once the update goes live

[uncut harness]

Arbiter

I can only imagine how jealous the Korvax are of you

[hard stirrup]

Honestly that is a terrible video. His main argument for "proof" of racing is that this ship and all its parts are internally referred to as racer in the game files. That does not mean there will be racing...at all. It is simply a file name that is used for the ship and all its parts that was likely determined long before they knew what they'd end up calling it in the end. Could there be racing...maybe? But this is not proof of that. Also this ship is an exotic ship with a unique skin...there's nothing that inherently makes this ship better at racing than any other high maneuverability ship in the game. The dude also goes on about modular ships because he found the bare cockpits in the files without wings or engines...that could easily be for the game's internal ship generation as any fighter cockpit can have any fighter wings and so on...the game assembles these ships from possible parts. It doesn't mean there will never be ship customization, but this is not proof of that. I think the guy making this video is just being disingenuous and deliberately grasping at straws for catchy video titles.

[uncut harness]

That last bit definitely explains this guys youtube channel, I blocked him a while ago

[tawdry quarry]

his other video thumbnail was just 'UPDATE IS HERE'

checked Steam the minute i saw it to confirm, nothing

nothing but bait

[late tusk]

so how long does this new exped take

[heavy light]

There is a difference between

1. Making videos for YouTube
   And
2. Making videos for No Man’s Sky

This guy does neither but tries to make videos for YouTube

[heavy light]

Game: Releases a bucket you can pick up
YouTubers: “OMG GUYS TELEPORTATION IS CONFIRMED!!!”

[tawdry quarry]

^

[late tusk]

LOOl

[dense quartz]

Boy the community really doesn't like him, huh?

I really can't tell when some of these youtubers are pretending or when they're actually seriously misunderstanding what's going on.

[heavy light]

Kanaju is the only one I actively watch
There’s a bunch of other good ones
Some are absolutely horrid

[dense quartz]

"Not only did they release an update with no name or emoji or any patch notes for the first time ever, they also officially canned support for every single platform except PC. Thanks HG. Guys NMS is officially dead."

It has to be bait. It has to.

[heavy light]

How dumb are they?

Those people have the same level of reading comprehension as a 1 year old

[dense quartz]

Good ones imo are Kanaju, Captain Steve, Legacy Zero, Jason Plays, Beeblebum.. I'm sure I'm forgetting a few. 😅

[summer hearth]

Mfw the experimental update is experimental

[tawdry quarry]

well back to the subject of spoilers and this new update

I think we might be seeing a use for the AI override since the stations seem to be getting a slight overhaul

[summer hearth]

Keanu reeved cameo in the new mission

[tawdry quarry]

?

[compact coyote]

Kanaju is good too, also captain Steve, LZ too

Still sucks that cobra tv stopped playing NMS

Idk why

[summer hearth]

Wish we could get some new planet types

[long barn]

Wot? Who's that dense

[hard stirrup]

The new station models aren't in the experimental though. We know they are coming and they could be in the update launching alongside this expedition but the stations might not be coming now and be part of an update later in the year. Also, technically the station overrides do have a purpose...two purposes, actually. They can be used instead on fake passports to erase negative standing and they can be used in the pirate mission too in order to earn a player title. Of course it would be disappointing if this is all they ever end up doing, and it would be nice to see them do something more exciting and more meaningful but this could be the end of all they do.

[long barn]

May be that station overhauls is another update but it's also equal that the beta hasn't added them since it seems to be testing expeditions

[hard stirrup]

Completely true. Even this test is uncharacteristic of Hello Games, and they are only probably doing it because they really need to make sure it doesn't break saves or the game in any major ways. Hello Games typically don't give any glimpse of upcoming content until launch day and no doubt kept all they could out of the experimental.

[carmine jolt]

For an April fools thing, HG should make us go around with station overrides to manually update all the stations to the new models. /s

[long barn]

Absolutely 💯

The way they've done it so you can bring stuff into an expedition definitely warranted a test hence a Beta period. I also think they added the ability to claim a dreadnought as a little bit of a secret to be found which I imagine hit the mark and generated a lot of hype

[tawdry quarry]

yeah it definitely feels like HG probes the community often with smaller things like the Sentinel ships and staffs which could be the predecessor to what they might be cooking up for these updates

[hard stirrup]

There is one thing I really wonder. Remember the expedition that was all about Crimson vs. Atlantid and Hello Games said they'd be looking at that for what players prefer for future content? I wonder if this new Atlas themed content lanuching now is an indication that Crimson won out? Crimson in that expedition was basically the Atlas and Atlantid was the Void Mother.

[dense quartz]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

[tawdry quarry]

yeah, thats definitely a possibility

[dense quartz]

Or something like that where we could potentially choose which side to go with? Cause they said experimental has a version of the upcoming expedition, I wonder if it means this only includes the Atlas side?

[heavy light]

That would also make sense if they waited for the redux so more people could do the expedition and get to chose

[tawdry quarry]

these decisions could be affecting where the narrative of the lore is going, but take that with a bucket of salt

Devs seem to like to keep things ambiguous normally so you can percieve things however you want

[viral geyser]

I'm fairly confident this is going to be one huge update, and quite possibly the last.

I'm also pretty certain it's called omega

[hard stirrup]

Could be...although this expedition is way more loaded with meaningful content than any other...staff, ship, backpack, and helmet could all have been final rewards in their own individual expeditions. I think there's no way this is just half of the rewards. I do think this is a nice answer to the feeling expedition rewards have been lacking though...pets were getting to be a bit much and they are not all that useful if we are being honest so people were hoping for more...this definitely delivers.

[viral geyser]

It has a logo on the files

So I'm thinking it's called omega

[tawdry quarry]

i dont think this is going to be the last one. i think the devs are actually going over everything or most things in the game, giving them a revamp or some nice polish, then they'll stop or slow support for the game

think about what we've gotten so far

[summer hearth]

they arent gonna stop support

nms and lnf have two different teams

[sour fossil]

What's the full path?

[hard stirrup]

I don't think this is the last one either but the full release post when this goes public will definitely tell us if this were to be the last expedition.

[tawdry quarry]

yeah. this might be a huge update, bigger than a lot of stuff before this if they are actually packing all the things we've seen into it

[viral geyser]

I'll look at my pc when I get home

I will say it's been about 6 months since the last update (which is almost as long for beyond) and this is the third part to a three part act

[dense quartz]

I still think it's odd that the singularity expedition possibly influenced the direction this expedition went and possibly the actual lore.
I mean.. is people claiming one of two rewards really a good metric for the game's direction?
I just find it confusing if that's the case.

Cause I just grabbed both without really caring too much lol.

[tawdry quarry]

might be to see which side you care for

rebellious or not

[dense quartz]

Wait, wasn't the two sides between two autophage heads?
Not void mother and atlas?

Ohh right.

[summer hearth]

what is atlantid

[tawdry quarry]

Voidmother side

[hard stirrup]

I think most people did, me included. Hell, even before I started the expedition my first thought was "can I do this twice to get both" and sure enough the answer was yes. But I think this is definitely amazing stuff. And if I had to have chosen after lengthy and careful deliberation then this would definitely have been it.

[summer hearth]

whos the voidmommy

[tawdry quarry]

no one knows probably. this last part might be where we figure it out

though i think that something made the Voidmother in desperation and now its coming back to bite

sort of a boogeyman situation

[summer hearth]

maybe the voidmother is the voice of freedom

[dense quartz]

A saw a theory about the whole Artemis plot being told by an unreliable narrator, like the Atlas thinks he's all alone and being sucked into a black hole and dying or something, but it's just the Void mother being uploaded to the simulation from somewhere, and the Atlas can't make sense of it, so neither can we, but the Autophage know what's up.

[tawdry quarry]

yeah, but for a different reason

[spice gorge]

So - does it turn out that if you loaded an existing save and from there went into the Anomaly and kicked off the new expedition, that when it's over you get your earned rewards from the expedition avail to ALL saves or just the ONE save you were in when you engaged with the new expedition? (I know in the past, before this new way of starting expeditions, ALL saves could access expedition rewards.)

Tnx

[dense quartz]

I think it's still the same.
The only real difference is you can now start the expedition from existing saves.

[hard stirrup]

I don't think so but could me. I am more wondering if there is some connection between Telamon and the Void Mother. We know that Telamon was a protocol meant to keep the Atlas in check, and when the Atlas grew rampant it wanted to be rid of telamon but couldn't destroy her completely so she was isolated in our traveler's exosuit...a bit of a mirror image of the destruction of Korvax Prime but the Void Mother surviving...though we have no idea where she is.

[analog breach]

Void mother aka the void aka abyss aka korvax prime

[tawdry quarry]

My two lines of thinking is that either the Atlas needed to switch things up to make progress on its goal, or that its reset so many times that a glitch happened somewhere

[summer hearth]

i think telamon was just a program created to limit the atlas

but then stopped working

[hybrid pendant]

Lots of experimentals

[hard stirrup]

Well maybe but unlikely...we know that the Atlas grew rampant and started resetting the simulation over and over and over again, nonstop but running into the same issues every time.

[sour fossil]

Whoever is pushing updates past 9PM at FRIDAY

I hope they are getting paid lmao

[hard stirrup]

Well yes...she was intended to keep the atlas in check, and stopped working because the Atlas found a way to isolate her.

[uncut harness]

I mean it's not a big company, so pretty sure they're all friends and everyone is getting paid.
I just hope they're having fun

[tawdry quarry]

thats what I mean. what if it purposely made a threat or accidentally created one

[summer hearth]

atlas just installed mcafee

(in this universe it actually works)

[uncut harness]

void mother is rootkit

[tawdry quarry]

would that mean the Voidmother is a Win32 virus?

[hard stirrup]

lulz...I think the Void Mother was mcafee and the atlas was the computer it was installed on but sentient and wanted to be rid of those pesky human imposed limitations.

[summer hearth]

bonzi voidmother

[analog breach]

No

[tawdry quarry]

i think you're onto something

[viral geyser]

New internal

[analog breach]

But still no emote 😤

[uncut harness]

Give it till tue/wed next week

Then after that, give it another 7 days, and repeat until it happens

[tawdry quarry]

with how often they're dropping these versions, i wouldnt doubt maybe tommorow for a release

[uncut harness]

Pretty sure they don't release on weekends

[analog breach]

Usualy update releases around wednesdays

[uncut harness]

They also have to release on consoles which have windows of time they're allowed to release

[compact berry]

Release on Wednesday February 14, 2024 for sure

They like to release on Wednesday

Also 100 percent more then just Expedition it's Content Update as well for sure

[analog breach]

Hopefuly . It would be a big let down if its only exp after all this time

[compact berry]

Agreed

[hard stirrup]

But can you imagine what a shocker it would be if Telamon and the Void Mother end up being one and the same? I mean Laylaps was basically ignoring us and speaking directly to Telamon and then the autophages were raving at us about how they could sense her and that she's returning and all that...were they sensing Telamon? Is that what's going on here? The Atlas was the simulation and it orchestrated the destruction of Korvax Prime, but its consciousness(if you can call it that) survived...a bit of a parallel to Telamon being a much larger program designed to monitor and limit the Atlas being limited to the suit of our traveler...something that was a much larger and more prevalent presence in the universe basically erased but not completely.

[uncut harness]

I have ~600 hours in the game and still run into new things, I'm curious how people are so starved for updates

[analog breach]

Very starved. Im 1k h+

[uncut harness]

Haha you might be starved

[hard stirrup]

I'm at ~6500 hours and still learn things about this game all the time.

[analog breach]

And i dont min max much . It takes a lot of time nad its zzzzzzzz

[compact berry]

@uncut harness No Man's Sky still has lots of potential

We been waiting months as well so it's reasonable

[uncut harness]

That's 270 days straight

[uncut harness]

Yeah I agree

[compact berry]

👍

[uncut harness]

I wasn't suggesting it was unreasonable, I just don't ever feel like I would be let down with a smaller update, because that would still add to the thousands of hours of entertainment still possible for even people who have played a long time.

[compact berry]

I'm not saying it has to be big

I'm just saying it should be content update as well

Just expedition would be disappointing

[uncut harness]

I'm hopeful, the expedition stuff does look interesting though. I still hold out hope for racing even though that is as close to speculation as you can get from the info I've seen

[compact berry]

I'm not saying it has to be a huge content update decent size content update which it definitely will be

Sense we got other stuff like that the teleporter in the anomaly, the ownable pirate freighters, and new food definitely content update as well

[uncut harness]

Oh yeah @compact berry I get you, I understand. I was actually curious, I don't think it's a problem to be dissapointed because you had hoped for more

I hope for cotent too

I think it's pretty likely

[compact berry]

Thanks for understanding

[uncut harness]

Based on what we've seen, and I'm stoked

[compact berry]

I think likely it's content update as well

I can't wait

I think Sean will tweet emoji on February 12, 2024 and then it releases on February 14, 2024

[hard stirrup]

Well we know that the pirate freighters will be ownable now and that's definitely new content, and the Atlas path with have an infinite and repeatable end state now. That's definitely new content and will be a content update along with the expedition. But that could be all of it for all we know. There might be more we don't know of but that could be it.

[uncut harness]

Will they add more interaction to pets because of pal world? This is the question everyone wants answered for some reason.

[compact berry]

I think there could be some more. How big I'm not sure I think it will be decent size content update.

I won't be disappointed if it's not super big I'm not expecting it to be super big I just want it to be a decent size content update

[uncut harness]

Stations, dreadnaught, and expeditions would be pretty good to me. I have to imagine there will be a bunch of QOL stuff and hopefully new visual effects

[compact berry]

Agreed

[uncut harness]

A lot of these icons look good too

[hard stirrup]

I don't think so...at least not now. Palworld is a new fad, I don't think they could implement major and meaningful changes there overnight. But HG have never been trend chasers.

[compact berry]

I wonder as well

[uncut harness]

I actually think the pets in NMS are great, I'm not sure what I'd change about it.

[hard stirrup]

I'm incredibly happy with just the expedition lol. Just the helmet backpack and ship are amazing. The staff looks great but is kind of rubbish but I'll still look to see what I can do with it.

[uncut harness]

I just got through the echos story content with the Autophage (I think) I'm pretty excited to start unlocking the autophage cosmetics

It's awesome that they actually made heads from sentinels

the healing drones and summoners are my favorite designs, and I can't wait to look like them

I sort of wish they had a voltic staff that could heal yourself and others so I could be a healer

But I could just make food I guess

[tawdry quarry]

why get a staff when you got a Golden Corrals worth of food in a pocket dimension?

[compact berry]

@hard stirrup The expedition is good but I'm hoping it's a content update as well

The content updates also expands No Man's Sky potential more and gets more people interested

[compact berry]

It's not going to be just expedition we been waiting 6 months

[hard stirrup]

I know it won't be just the expedition but I am saying...anything else is an extra. I'm more than happy with just the expedition.

[compact berry]

Definitely the ownable pirate freighters, new teleporter in the space anomaly, etc hints at this being content update as well

I'm hoping it's content update as well likely it will be

They will surprise us

They know people have a lot of expectations. Of course they did not put everything in the experimental because it's a week before release

[gloomy isle]

Tbf that exact thing has happened before

But that was a one off thing AFAIK

[knotty mountain]

So what do we think, Wednesday? I figure if everything is going well in experimental, it'll probably release soon

[gloomy isle]

That's my thoughts yeah

They're fixing experimental as they go, too

Aside from that progress blocker everything seems to have worked alright

[knotty mountain]

Rad, I'm excited, I would switch to experimental but I don't want to risk my thousand hour save

[spice gorge]

Of course, you would backup your save first. I've played on Experimental branch since 2016 launch - no issues.

I backed up before loading this update, as one does.

[viral geyser]

New experimental update

[spice gorge]

1 hr ago it seems

Work is finished - going in for first time since 2 updates landed

[viral geyser]

I hope there is a naked Sean Murray model in this update

[spice gorge]

Ah, HG wants my save file for the bug I reported

Is this Expedition 12?

Oh wow, the wwise audio package logo changed on the loading screen in this latest Experimental update.

[knotty mountain]

Think they'll do 16 expeditions and then just rotate them out?

Imo that would be ideal

We don't need 50 expeditions

[uncut harness]

I want to play that roguelike one again

[late tusk]

LOL fr

[knotty mountain]

I definitely think either a rotation, or maybe just you can play any of them at any time, and then sometimes they add new ones

Would be a great way to utilize the new terminal

[late tusk]

i find it strange they are throwing other little things like (owning pirate frigates) into an experimental

like yeah its cool but odd

🤔

[knotty mountain]

The general consensus seems to be that they're testing a portion of the new update

[late tusk]

what could sean be up to

[uncut harness]

well it has bugs so it's good they did

[late tusk]

so if all goes well i think we get emoji monday and the other things on wed :O?

[knotty mountain]

Seems like a lot of people think there will be more content than what the experimental has right now

I think yes to Wednesday for the update, emoji could be any time between now and then

[late tusk]

maybe they are just doing the smaller bits and saving all the other stuff for the public release

if this is the case. they should do this for every update once its ready enough so we can iron out the rest of the bugs for them :D

give us just a tiny bit of it

[livid zinc]

I didn't know this was a thing for folks in experimental?

[dense quartz]

Honestly, I'm not even sure if HG was aware that ownable pirate freighters, Atlas Path expansion and other little things were in the experimental branch.

Feels kinda dirty having pirate freighter honestly.. it's unfinished and unannounced.
Kinda have the same feeling when we modded those space stations into the game to check them out lol.

[livid zinc]

You can buy the ship after beating it I heard

[dense quartz]

Yep.

[livid zinc]

So not modded

[dense quartz]

It's not modded, no.