nms-spoilers

[errant socket]

That would be sick as well

[long barn]

I wouldn't mind seeing more armours/jetpacks as well

Expand character creation a bit more

[errant socket]

Nooooooo

[long barn]

Maybe one day we get mech statues

[analog breach]

Or korvax /vykeen/autophage statues

[long barn]

First spawn statues

[analog breach]

They are in space somewhere

[long barn]

I wanna have in a base as well

[errant socket]

They aren't really right

Imagine if the devs put a statue on a random planet and that's the only statue in the game

[pliant grove]

Imagine the community panic if suddenly atlas said

15//15//15

[long barn]

Countdown to light no fire that is

[jolly vault]

My therory: Light no fire is the simulation that gets created by the new star when the Atlas resets the simulation.

[long barn]

Start counting down from 16 every month until release?

[tiny isle]

i want more in every game that i play

OMG i just found out that you can essentially play on super easy mode, so i set everything to the hardest it gets

[long barn]

Indeed

[tiny isle]

im a lone space person. I dont even have a bace in this save yet

i had to restart because my living ship quest was bugged

[dense quartz]

I feel like the only person alive who doesnt want LNF to be connected with NMS

[analog breach]

Well i doubt there will be any real canon/lore connection other than references

[long barn]

[low escarp]

so what happens at the beginning of no man sky? im totally new xD

[ionic meteor]

if I wipe the atleast does it destroy my save file????

it says it will destroy the universe

so idk

[long barn]

No it doesn't do anything

There's a lot of implied choices but got to remember this isn't baldurs gate so a lot of the choices lead to the same/similar result

[mental socket]

I share this opinion

[dense quartz]

I no longer feel like the only person alive who doesn't want LNF to be connected with NMS!

[long barn]

It may have a subtle hint at the atlas or something akin to it but I reckon it'll be its own unique ip

[south holly]

Y'all just interloped.

[scenic apex]

hey there whats your guys take on the artemis quest? she seems evil....

[brazen cedar]

Keep following it.. you'll solve the riddle eventually. Your choices determine some slight variation in the dialogue, but nothing changes your ultimate path. Just how you see it.

||Artemis is no more evil than you||

[scenic apex]

kk

[long barn]

Evil? Nah

An absolute tool maybe

[weary grove]

I still never figured out what exactly happened

[cobalt siren]

I think the only connection will be in the fact they're both atlas creations

[unreal onyx]

Artemis is baby, how dare.
They die just wanting to meet people.

Apollo is a money hungry uncaring mean word, impo....

And -null- is just... loser.

[storm latch]

Or what if it's a Korvax Prime creation

Or the less "bulky" atlas

[cobalt siren]

from the trailer it definitely looks like the atlas

like it shed it s upper armour due to failure or something

or maybe its a new and improved design

which would make sesne considering this is a next generation game

[uncut harness]

[low escarp]

||what is the friend or traveler question.||

[heady wyvern]

I don't know what you're talking about

That's quite a vague question honestly

[hasty current]

||If this is to do with Artemis, it doesn't really matter, so answer whichever one you'd rather based on how you're playing. I guess if you're roleplaying as a rescuer for Artemis, then saying friend would make more sense.||

[low escarp]

oh im not sure what the whole stobe means tbh xD

@hasty current@heady wyvern

[uncut harness]

||i just killed Artemis and I feel terrible||

[long barn]

Why? They gave themselves a Darwin award anyway with improper use of portals

[unreal onyx]

||Better that than let him live in the ainulation, figure it out, and then go mentally insane...|| Imo

[long barn]

Holy shit

Those models look stunning 😍

[uncut harness]

Maybe coming soon

New Space Stations!

[analog breach]

They are coming 100%. We just dont know when

[hardy ether]

i kinda like the beautiful simplicity of the ones we have rn

so i hope the internal layout doesnt get too complex

[dire drum]

I’m guessing you didn’t see the screenshots

From the trailer

[hardy ether]

nope

are they gonna be big and complex

[dire drum]

You’re in for a shock, that’s all I’ll say. You’ll have to see when the update comes out

[hardy ether]

where can i find the trailer

[dire drum]

Mmmm, it’s better if it’s a surprise

[hardy ether]

i found it

i dont like these new space stations :(

[dire drum]

Goddammit

I told you it’d be better as a surprise

[hardy ether]

:3

i like the layout and vibe of the ones we have rn :/

[dire drum]

It’s just small

[hardy ether]

beauty in simplicity

[dire drum]

Not really

You see the same thing a thousand times it gets bored

Or in my case, 500

[hardy ether]

well i like them

they could perhaps be bigger but i like the aesthetics

[analog breach]

https://youtu.be/HPgdHZn3hs0?feature=shared

[jolly vault]

The new space station does not look small! That's just a big ship!

[jolly vault]

These are either going to be really big, or we'll get pulled in from a further distance. Either way I'm excited to see these in game.

[crude sand]

So it’s 2024, gib HG

[analog breach]

They didint precise the date . It can be november 2024 😜

[long barn]

I think the new ones will looks and function better

Also been almost a week since the last tweet ... soon???

[pallid steppe]

I hope it isn't just a grapical update. It'd be nice to have some stuff to spend my millions of credits on. Like, for example, a space station.

[long barn]

As long as only the person that discovered that system can buy the station it'd be fine, and like a freighter only own one

[analog breach]

No tweets could mean that sean and the team is back from winter holidays.

[long barn]

I'd be surprised if that was recently, most if not all places went back a fortnight ago or so

[crude sand]

Needs to be now

[amber plank]

Yo so i read a bit of the games lore on the wiki but not the full thing - am i right in thinking that the player’s universe is just a simulation in some sort of atlas device?

[quaint remnant]

@amber plank yes

atlas is a dying machine making simulation on its death bed

[amber plank]

Ok fair enough

Is there any part of the storyline where anything inside the atlas has some desire to enter the real universe?

[dire drum]

No, because up until the atlas revealed the truth, nothing realized that there was another universe

And when it did, it only revealed it to like four travelers in that single instance

[amber plank]

Okay wow thanks guys rlly appreciate the explanation 🫶

[dire drum]

The atlas is dying because the backup generators it’s been running on are failing, iirc, so it keeps trying to reset because it believes that will fix the problem.

But at any rate, resetting or refusing won’t do anything to save the atlas

[coarse anvil]

the most popular theory is that the atlas is 16 minutes away from being torn apart by a black hole, as time dilation kind of explains how instead of just 16 minutes left there is an undefined amount of time left

[long reef]

Do you get this parking there by random luck, or is it when you're pirate legend?

[uncut harness]

RNG

[twin oracle]

gib us the n e w r e c t a n g l e

[soft sonnet]

@haughty wasp the atlas in reality: the all powerful computer running the simulation with a lot of complex lore behind it

how I view it: skrunkly red orb that just needs a hug cause its scared

[haughty wasp]

that does seem to be part of the lore. the atlas is demonized, but protecting the integrity of the sim is best for everyone in it

[soft sonnet]

I always choose the comfort option when it comes up while interacting with it

[haughty wasp]

the alternative to the work of the atlas is non existence. so.....

oh for sure.

i don't think the atlas evil

i think the interpretation of it being evil is the ignorance of what it is

the same as the interpretation it is to be worshipped

[soft sonnet]

it probably doesnt want to do the bad things it does, but its a little too occupied to do much about that

[haughty wasp]

well it's also in system failure

[soft sonnet]

its a computer thats riddled with bugs and it keeps making mistakes, the atlas may not be capable yet of understanding that, but it means its closer than most computers to being human

though it is a little too busy fearing for its life so

[gentle thunder]

I just encountered my first rogue black hole in-system, and it took me to another quadrant - is this black hole going to be there again, back in the system I found it in, or is it just a random one-time event?

[long barn]

So it's the Vex?

[uncut harness]

i dont wanna spoil myself to much but should i reject or accept the atlas when prompted too?

idk if that considers me good or bad or what path thatll start me on, or if i choose to or not its an irreversable decision

[pallid steppe]

There's zero effect. It's an illusion of choice.
Pretty much everything that happens means nothing.

[uncut harness]

okay cool\

[pulsar glade]

It's an illusion of choice.
As all things in No Man's Sky are....

[icy citrus]

And 99% of all videogames ever

[analog breach]

All the part of the same cycle.

[mental socket]

facts

[heady wyvern]

Same as it ever was...

[tepid iris]

Imo that's gonna be a Next/Beyond sized update

and it's likely it'll be months before we hear something just like Beyond

[errant socket]

I think the ship from the recent teaser is just an Exped reward

It looks custom made like the utopia one

[long reef]

Both quiest are at "enjoy galaxy" , do they ever complete?

[zealous trench]

||will I be able to come back to my old bases once I move to different galaxy? ||

[sour fossil]

Yes, using a teleporter

Just make sure to make one in the new galaxy as well

So you have a point to come back to

[uncut harness]

So in the main story, you end up floating in space, and it actually lets you swim around. I sort of wish that was possible, but I get that there is really no reason to do that haha

[small geode]

It is possible normally, need to find a low gravity planet and can jet pack boost into space, you’ll need to constantly spam life support but will eventually get so high up the swimming animation kicks in

[real sapphire]

ok just asking, the quest when you get a staff, i read that its random? I've already done artemis, trace of metal, have located a harmonic camp and have a sentinel ship

[runic jay]

It'll show up

[sour fossil]

The staff you construct during Echoes quest line has fixed parts

After that you can construct any staff from available parts at any Autophage terminal, found in Autophage Camps and Harmonic Camps (the same terminal that lifts the seal from MT cabinet)

When assembling a staff, the head piece and the location of the assembly terminal determine the seed for the complete staff, which affects stats, class and colour scheme of the staff

So head piece A can result in lets say blue S class staff while head piece B will be a red C class stick

[sturdy lance]

i second @long reef on his question

[long reef]

I third this guy on seconding my question.

[long reef]

Answer is NO

[summer hearth]

Do we know what happens to null after completing the purge

Or is he just wiped off the face of the galaxy

Never to be spoken of again

[icy citrus]

They made it this long, I think they are still out there - but nothing is mentioned

[gloomy isle]

They're probably out there somewhere in some sort of existential depression

or they're Ariadne

Or both

[peak locust]

||Apollo is on me?! ||

[wild dune]

if you reset then they die. Probably

[summer hearth]

Nah, atlas defiance to the end

The euclid is my home and it will not die until i say it can die

[ripe verge]

He is in you

[ripe verge]

Next expansion we see the evil null

Trying to destroy atlas or something

[summer hearth]

Evil null is just full

Because null means 0

Full could mean infinite

Because who are we to define how full the universe is

[ripe verge]

NEW VILLAIN

INFINITY

(no infinite cuz of copyright reasons)

(FACK YOU SEGA)

[summer hearth]

Evil null be like valid

[wild dune]

null is evil enough by themselves

literally consuming others' souls for longevity

[analog breach]

Or artemis comes back from world of glass pissed af To kill atlas

[summer hearth]

Atlas already dead though

[analog breach]

Dying=/= dead

[summer hearth]

Time to make another soul engine

[dire drum]

NMS story summary: IT professional goes to unfamiliar office and car breaks down, finds a ghost, talks to a robot, meets and befriends a homicidal maniac, finds a group of fellow IT professionals in a hidden bar run by a robot and a lizard, reboots a very very large computer

[summer hearth]

Then starts serving the computer

Becomes a machine themselves

Gets a magic staff

Transcends galaxies

The machine spirit must be pleased

[storm latch]

transcends office buildings

[fleet nacelle]

I finished the autophage missions ||was that it ? i was expecting some reveals or items or something lol ||

[dire drum]

You get the staffs and the realization that this entire robotic species was hiding underneath everyone’s noses

[native carbon]

can someone explain to me the atlas and overall NMS ||simulation thinny in a short version||

and whats the point with the number 16

[pallid steppe]

The ATLAS was made to simulate universes and developed a sort of sentiance. As time progressed better and smaller versions of it were made and it's creators needed to leave wherever ATLAS was built and took the better ATLAS with them. ATLAS was abandoned and sat there alone generating universes.
During NMS, ATLAS is experiencing a problem (maybe a generator malfunction) that will result in it's shutdown (or rather death) in 16 minutes. ATLAS panics, makes the travelers in his creators image, and keeps resetting itself and it's simulations as it tries to prevent it's death.
Because you're in a simulation, time in your simulation is different from actual time, with a real second potentially equaling 100,000,000 years. The ATLAS is cramming 16 into parts of the simulation as a cry for help.

TL;DR: Universe is a simulation and it's computer is dying in 16 minutes.

[summer hearth]

we should get more on the atlas in a future update

seems like we finish the purge and thats it

we dont know what will happen to the atlas

[heady wyvern]

Largely because it doesn't quite know either.

And I feel like a concrete answer would kinda go against the point of that grand venture, honestly.

[summer hearth]

i mean its really not that hard to understand if you think about it

in 16 minutes the simulation ends

lights out

and the atlas will remain dormant until either repaired by its creators or left to rot

[wicked wraith]

idk I really don't like the idea of nms being a simulator

*simulation

Even thought it clearly is, I just feel as if it's a lazy story telling narative

[analog breach]

So the progress bar above QS store disapeared. Does that mean anything ?

[dire drum]

There’s just not a community project atm

[late tusk]

😭

[analog breach]

Odd. There should be. Game files show 3 decals, 3 ice statues, 3 decals. But there is empty 1/5 progress bar in the qs menu...

HG keeps their cards close it seems. they dont want to spoil anything via game files leak like last time with station B models.

[eternal radish]

I noticed that too 🙁

[sour fossil]

The worst case scenario is: HG is planning a community research milestone for the next expedition

And we all know how fucking well it went on Singularity

[eternal radish]

Not me being paranoid that HG will stop supporting NMS because there are no community milestones 💀

[gloomy isle]

I mean they could be moving those rewards into expeditions maybe

Or they're just hiding it since it's been completed for a while now

[glad palm]

Didnt you find it emotional enough that atlas is dying and it was abandoned?

[ember heart]

that is true

but I need to look at aesthetics and music and stuff

[glad palm]

Sec

[ember heart]

it is for my game dev class so it needs to be detailed

ig i could use that tho

[glad palm]

@ember heart Try this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1buoexkVyA

[ember heart]

sure

[glad palm]

What about Telamon?

Also emotional

[ember heart]

I didnt read about telamon yet

who is that?

oh

interesting

[glad palm]

@ember heart - 29TH Encounter

Nothing happened.

'Open the gate,' they commanded, stepping forward to the terminal.

Silence.

'Telamon,' they whispered, 'Telamon - help me activate his terminal. I need to get out - '

Silence.

A thousand years passed.

[ember heart]

where's that from?

I found this

[glad palm]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Boundary_Failure

• 19TH Encounter

SCENARIO: A Traveller falls from the sky. They are discovered on a distant planet, a signal sending you to find their ship...

ANALYSIS: You don't belong in this world, do you? What are you, reader? From where do you watch us? From where do you judge their works?

I feel it, each time you save... I smell it, each time you seal us within that awful darkness. You might think you are real. You might think your plane is a higher level of reality.

But don't you understand? Don't you see the secret, yet?

[ember heart]

oh gtg

bye

[glad palm]

😄

Gl mate enjoy

[ember heart]

Thanks for the help

[glad palm]

I love lore in games so anything i can help, yw!

[runic mesa]

This is so unsettling tho. 10/10 best fourth wall break played for horror.

[uncut harness]

In the quest "The First Traveller" where Polo and Nada meet, it doesn't say why Polo was punished, just for his behavior. I wonder why he was punished.

Maybe he was looking into things he shouldn't have, so they were trying to isolate him

[minor crescent]

should I upload artemis or end suffering?

[ember heart]

@minor crescent I ||uploaded them to the sim||

cause that way they have their own system :)

[minor crescent]

yea but theyre all alone

thats sad

[ember heart]

ig

[minor crescent]

im 50/50 rn

[ember heart]

do whatever you want

[minor crescent]

I dont wanna let them die

[ember heart]

flip a coin

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[minor crescent]

haha

thanks

[dire drum]

They’re already dead. You can choose to let them think they’re alive, but at the end of the day they’re dead as disco

They FAFO about why you don’t mess with portals or the atlas

[wild dune]

I particularly love the existentialism ideas through the game like the world is dying but we would just enjoy life happily whatever.

[compact coyote]

Still sad for Artemis

[dire drum]

It is possible

[compact coyote]

That would be something

[dire drum]

Although they’d have to retcon the choice of keeping them “alive” in the simulation or letting them stay dead

It is possible, but I’m more curious about how Nada dragged that machine into the Anomaly

Because the Korvax are not the strongest, and Polo couldn’t have designed it because it’s a Korvax made device

Yes

[shell lance]

[p

[runic mesa]

Nada is Korvax, so I do wonder if they're going to have bigger connections to the story later...

[summer hearth]

man, if we kept artemis alive we couldve put them in an autophage body

[icy citrus]

Artemis was already dead when we started hearing their recordings

Don't worry though, just the one iteration

[wooden anvil]

@icy citrus

how did the sentinels begin existing?

is the plot good enough i shouldnt want spoilers?

[icy citrus]

The sentinels are a mystery in a lot of ways - while they work for the Atlas and act as a sort of police force - their origins aren't known for sure. All we know is they supposedly have been around longer than the races and one day showed up in the Outer Rim and started enforcing their policies

[wooden anvil]

oh okay

makes sense

i was thinking they were built by the races

[icy citrus]

Not to our knowledge, but the Atlas apparently doesn't build them either

Maybe an external monitoring program?

[wooden anvil]

shit

that would be a good plot

[summer hearth]

What if the sentinels are a malware that infected the atlas system and are forcing themselves into simulations to exert control over the atlas

[gloomy isle]

Anyone seen anything of the new expedition?

[wind panther]

Uhhh, new expedition is called Omega? That doesn't seem good

[dire drum]

Oh boy

Either they can’t be assed to come up with a name yet

Or it’s one of those expeditions

[gloomy isle]

Nooooo it's an expedition ship 😦

[runic mesa]

Atlas themed expedition? Hmm.

[dire drum]

All that shit looks so cool

Holy hell

[runic mesa]

That staff looks fire.

[wind panther]

And named Omega, as in...16?

[gloomy isle]

I wonder if this will go along with the station update

[sour fossil]

OH FOR FUCKS SAKE

[dire drum]

That staff? The helmet looks so fucking cool words cannot describe it

[sour fossil]

STOP WITH EXPEDITION UNIQUE SHIPS HG

[heavy light]

ITS LITERALLY MY EXPEDITION!!!

[gloomy isle]

The staff and the helmet do make up for it slightly

They're really cool

Backpack too

[dire drum]

Yeah, that makes it worth it

[gloomy isle]

I love the little floating pyramid instead of the camera buddy

[wind panther]

This is where you start new expeditions from the Nexus

[gloomy isle]

Huh that's pretty cool

[runic mesa]

Glad I scrapped my royal to free up space, but haven't claimed an Atlantid yet. Watch them not increase MT slots lol

[gloomy isle]

This feature makes me feel like the expedition is designed to be played alongside and update maybe?

[sour fossil]

Is this what I think it is

[zenith perch]

Flightpack looks like a penguin lmao

[heavy light]

Is this the first expedition multi-tool?

[sour fossil]

That would be correct

[zenith perch]

that sounds like a spacecraft to me

[gloomy isle]

Ownable pirate freighters??

[zenith perch]

Agility during atmospheric flight?

[gloomy isle]

Pls be true

[zenith perch]

Its probably ownable pirate frigates or freighters yes

[dire drum]

Oh, so you have a limited amount of items you can bring

Interesting

[gloomy isle]

Update on Tuesday then?

[sour fossil]

And looks like the new ship is internally called Wracer

[gloomy isle]

Or Wednesday

[zenith perch]

Wait so what's unique about the ship?

I don't get it

[gloomy isle]

The model is entirely unique

[wind panther]

Typically updates are Wednesday or Thursday, so that makes sense

[zenith perch]

Does it just fly fast when not close to ground or

[wind panther]

1 week to test

[gloomy isle]

Plus probably some different stats

[zenith perch]

I'd assume this isn't just an expedition given that "evolution" trailer

[wind panther]

Most unique ships are just fighters with crappy stats, nothing special other than appearance

[zenith perch]

Does it keep your current inventory or just your character or what

[dire drum]

I see you in the anomaly

[wind panther]

Not sure yet, I'm still poking around

[dire drum]

You have a limited amount of items you can take

[wind panther]

Until I alt+f4 😛

About to unpack files and see whta I can decompile

[zenith perch]

Define "those"

[wind panther]

God I wish I were at home on my new PC

[dire drum]

Starting the new expedition

[zenith perch]

Its named omega because

Atlas and Omega

[wind panther]

?

[gloomy isle]

Omega can mean the end of something right? Alpha and omega

[zenith perch]

Does NMS use religious imagery at all cause the only atlas and omega i know is revelations 21:6 because of fallout 3

[sour fossil]

HMmmm

Exocrafts have recharging modules or not?

[zenith perch]

He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life.

[wind panther]

Yes

[zenith perch]

Finally, drinkable water

[gloomy isle]

This definitely looks like a full update is in the files somehere

[sour fossil]

It's named Omega till it won't be

[wind panther]

Yeah, Atlas isn't in the bible, AFAIK

[zenith perch]

Omega is a good name

[sour fossil]

Just like Singularity was named Crucible

[zenith perch]

It contrasts atlas very well so I personally would not change it

crucible sounds like a cool update name

[wind panther]

It doesn't contrast with omega at all. They have competely disparate meanings

[sour fossil]

Oh cool new tutorial tooltips

[runic mesa]

"Memories gleaned from within the Atlas"....

[wind panther]

Yay, more popups I don't want!

[sour fossil]

More like Gleamed

[sour fossil]

Jokes on you I made 2 😜

[zenith perch]

Atlas is the beginning and Omega is the end, its imo fitting

[wind panther]

No

Alpha

You're mixing up A words

[zenith perch]

Nah its atlas now I'm rewriting it

[wind panther]

Ok, can't argue with that really

[sour fossil]

Also new file:
METADATA/REALITY/TABLES/ITEMFILTERDATATABLE.MBIN

So possible item filter rules?

[wind panther]

I'm still unpacking on my slow-ass laptop

[gloomy isle]

Is there anything about stations?

[zenith perch]

I mean most likely

The ship shown was in a very much remodelled station

[sour fossil]

Some parts were updated, I dont see new files

[zenith perch]

I'm sticking with the name evolution for now till its otherwise proven different

[sour fossil]

It's possible HG doesn't want to overhaul the stations at once

So first they can do internal parts (vendors, guides)

[zenith perch]

Knowing HG they'll add more than anyone expected

[sour fossil]

Players learn those during this update phase

[zenith perch]

Please please please please please let me toggle ship boosting I BEG

[sour fossil]

And the next one the rest of changes could follow

[runic mesa]

Wait, guild shop?

[zenith perch]

We're in the Overhaul Era of NMS to be fair so

[sour fossil]

Yeah the 3 guilds

Like mercenaries, explorers

[zenith perch]

Here's hoping the guild envoy does something eventually

[analog breach]

Just Guild vendors* probably

[zenith perch]

Imagine update was feb 14th

[wind panther]

It's also possible this is only part of the update, just enough for the trial to work

[zenith perch]

My theory is correct then

[sour fossil]

Yeah just because it says SHOP doesn't mean it functions like one

[runic mesa]

Yes, but it's designated as shops. Envoys don't exactly do much now.

[wind panther]

OR, this could be everything

[zenith perch]

I don't think its going to be just an expedition

[gloomy isle]

Yeah this could be an expedition with some other changes, with the station update coming a bit later

Or it's not all in there yet

[wind panther]

'shop' in NMS code terms is really just an interactable NPC usually

[runic mesa]

Gotcha

[zenith perch]

I doubt its just an expedition

I certainly hope its not just the expedition stuff, i don't ever play them

[gloomy isle]

I mean I don't think it'll just be an expedition

[sour fossil]

There are over 2700 new files in this build of the game

[gloomy isle]

It looks like there's maybe ownable pirate freighters too

[sour fossil]

Granted even a single new texture counts towards that

[zenith perch]

Its been about 5 months or so since echoes so they're cooking something big i hope

[sour fossil]

But there is a lot of changes, large portion mentions what looks to be player owned pirate dreadnoughts

[zenith perch]

Perhaps gleam will finally get the cheeseburger update

[runic mesa]

I mean, Voyagers came alongside Echos, which added a bunch of stuff.

[zenith perch]

I saw that coming from a mile off tbf

[gloomy isle]

I just don't want to get hyped for another fractals 😭

I wanna keep my expectations low

[sour fossil]

Looks like Solars and Interceptors are getting some new visual effects

[zenith perch]

I reckon station overhaul with procedurally generated stations on the outside, ownable dreadnoughts OR frigates or perhaps even both, redo of the internals of stations

[sour fossil]

All ship types interiors seem to get changed as well

[gloomy isle]

As in the cockpits?

[wind panther]

New biome specific plants

[zenith perch]

I don't see it happening but i would love some frontiers changes

[zenith perch]

W

[gloomy isle]

Ayyy

[zenith perch]

Flora is a big complaint i've had for a while

[wind panther]

New biome - rainforest? Need to look into that further

[gloomy isle]

As in harvestable or regular flora?

[sour fossil]

Rainforest is already in game files

[wind panther]

interactiveflora

[sour fossil]

The changes are just for materials there

[zenith perch]

The big flora like the boomplants as i call them

[gloomy isle]

Aah maybe new recipes too then

[zenith perch]

Those exploding green sac things

[wind panther]

Thanks FF, didn't remember rainforest in the biome list

But what I'm seeing is for fauna, large creatures

[zenith perch]

rainforest sounds like those smallish forests you get on swampy planets

[sour fossil]

Nah it is in public

[zenith perch]

hqlush and hqlushultra is related to the nextgen update im guessing?

Is livingship a planet?

[wind panther]

A ton of shader updates, but that's pretty common

[sour fossil]

Living Ship is whatever HG decided to put there

[wind panther]

another Twitch campaign

[zenith perch]

Yeah that sounds like a big update coming then

I don't ever remember a twitch drops thing being added with just an expedition

If its possible with their workflow i'd like expedition + major update at the same time

[sour fossil]

Looks like Atlas staff will come in 2 variants, light and dark

[wind panther]

Otherwise, not a ton that I see. I'm also hesitant about the pirate dreadnought ownership. There are some new files pointing to that possibility, but I don't know if there's enough

[zenith perch]

dreadnoughts seem way bigger than normal freighters to such a degree that their interiors would be absurdly large

[sour fossil]

Pirate outposts on planets?

[wind panther]

Yeah, just saw those too

[zenith perch]

If they could get npcs walking around and shooting you that'd peak my interest

[icy citrus]

Speculate away, this isn't taken as promises

[wind panther]

Meh, freighter interiors have no association to external size

[zenith perch]

Praying something about frontiers is found

[wind panther]

frontiers?

[zenith perch]

The settlement stuff

I have wanted massive reworks to it for a long time

[wind panther]

Nothing stood out to me about settlements

[mighty rampart]

anyone tried out the expedition through their save file yet?

[zenith perch]

Upgrade paths and being able to manually pay off debts, stuff like that

[runic mesa]

Any clue to the rewards?

[sour fossil]

Rewards were posted earlier on by Gumsk

[gloomy isle]

Pirate camps would be so awesome

[sour fossil]

Oh sorry Twitch rewards you mean

[zenith perch]

I'd love if the dreads that escaped could be tracked down later so you can kill their captain or w/e

[heavy light]

This could be hype

[zenith perch]

Could procedurally generate captain names and go nms style nemesis system

[runic mesa]

Hmm, an egg at least.

[heavy light]

3 weapon
1 egg
5 ship

[sour fossil]

Note this is only listing the new files

So there will be more rewards but from existing items

[wind panther]

tech table decompiled, doing a compare now

[runic mesa]

Was kinda hoping the older Cartographers stuff replaced in the remix would show up as Twitch drops.

[sour fossil]

fingers crossed on HG nerfing the NC upgrades to normal values

[zenith perch]

I wish the expeditions were not fomo honestly

I really do not see the value in doing fomo

[icy citrus]

Eh, none of the rewards have been so amazing you can't live without them - all cosmetics

[wind panther]

Nothing significant in the tech table

[icy citrus]

Even the ships are just cosmetically unique to others you can find

Not better, just different

[wind panther]

Nothing significant in proc tech table

[dire drum]

I think the Utopia Speeder has a really high maneuverability

[wind panther]

No, just the tech installed on it

[dire drum]

That’s the only bonus though

[sour fossil]

Golden Vector, Utopia Speeder and Switch Rasa have the same base, just different skin put on top of it

And Speeder has some trickery to make it zoomy

[icy citrus]

From the description of this new ship, it's gonna be the same as the speeder

[mighty rampart]

Slight sound tweak when I started interacting in the start menu

Different sound when selecting stuff like the game mode and save file

[icy citrus]

Good, bad?

[sour fossil]

Yup there is a bunch of new audio banks

Wonder if it has anything to do with tech like Apple Vision Pro

To have immersive experience for this kind of VR headsets

[mighty rampart]

its one the other sound effects you get when selecting stuff, no new sound

[wind panther]

Yeah, new ship is even nested in the fighter folder still

[sour fossil]

There should be also new posters for game modes

[mighty rampart]

explorers finally fixed lol, the top right exhaust used to be blank

[wind panther]

Guess I can use this to make reskins earlyl

[sour fossil]

So let's see who's artwork got featured this time

Yay, hooray for HG fixing an issue that modders fixed long time ago

[wind panther]

hah, I can retire that mod now

[sour fossil]

The update isn't out yet but you can already profit of it, noice

[wind panther]

I wonder if they fixed the other misaligned or other stuff

[zenith perch]

I really do not like FOMO

[sour fossil]

Capitalism FTW

[zenith perch]

Utopia Speeder but fast high up, not fast when near the ground is my theory

[subtle gorge]

HG is really funny because they do all the predatory shit AAA studios do but without the option to pay money like that was the only problem with them (/lighthearted)

[icy citrus]

FOMO is a societally made mental construct - you are always missing out on things - impossible to see or do everything

Don't buy into it

[analog breach]

One way for HG to cancel FOMO is is unlocking all for all at the end of game support

[sour fossil]

True dat, where are my day 1 goodies after I started playing on 2020

[wind panther]

ok, I think I'm good for the night. Have fun looking around, everyone

[icy citrus]

Layers

Laters

[sour fossil]

GN and thanks for all the info

[icy citrus]

Frigging autocorrect

[sour fossil]

Layers of comfy blanket you mean

[subtle gorge]

This doesn't come from a place of malice, please don't interpret it as such. I honestly find it adorable dkdhjd

[wind panther]

layers of blankets on the hard floor to make a semi-decent pallet to sleep on the floor at my mother-in-law's 😛

[mighty rampart]

not sure what I'm meant to put in the tech tab, I guess packaged tech?

[sour fossil]

But I agreed with the point of not putting new ships behind expeditions

Most probably

Since this kind of UI only allows for item transfer

So I guess packaged tech only

[analog breach]

Omega. Intresting name

[mighty rampart]

yes

[heavy light]

Agreed

[sour fossil]

Keep in mind, all we see now is a placeholder, names included

[zenith perch]

FOMO means I cannot go get the golden vector unless i do the redux expeditions which means I'm on artificial timers for no real reason

[sour fossil]

Just like Singularity was originally named Crucible

[mighty rampart]

so I am still making a new save, just that I can get a jumpstart by transferring some mats

[zenith perch]

I hope this doesn't break saves in any way

[icy citrus]

You could get it delivered

Think you can still trade that one also

[heavy light]

Oh it will

[analog breach]

From the other hand . You have to reward players that supported you somehow.

[mighty rampart]

Woah what a sight

the sight when I loaded up on the planet, still spoilering it to give people one last chance

[heavy light]

Wow

[subtle gorge]

Wait

Huh

Wild

I've had that happen a few times ndkdnd

[analog breach]

You can spawn derelict near the planet and see it from surface. Just not that close

I wonder how switch will handle it

[heavy light]

We’ll survive

[mighty rampart]

I kept all my visual customization from the main save I interacted

but its a new save

[late tusk]

this is why i save edit it

[mighty rampart]

also interesting you start with some broken slots in your multitool and ship

[heavy light]

Goals?

[late tusk]

WHY IS THE NEW SHIP Expedition >:C

[heavy light]

Thats the HG way

[sour fossil]

Yeah a really bad way

[heavy light]

It wasn’t really unexpected

[late tusk]

and this is why

i save edit all of them.

[icy citrus]

Damn pirates

[late tusk]

hell make them cost billions of units

SOMETHING

other than expedition locked

[sour fossil]

I do expeditions for the new content, to learn about the game

I dont care about 95% of the rewards

[late tusk]

wait so do we know if this is just a new expedition only or

will it have the space stations too

[sour fossil]

There's lots of stuff

Scroll up the convo and read

[late tusk]

🤔

[crude sand]

So my cool peeps what’s the general gist of the experimental changes so far?

[sour fossil]

Gumsk and I provided some of the most eye-catching ingo

[late tusk]

what the hell?

so this update is in experimental?

[sour fossil]

Yes

[late tusk]

thats...

Different

[heavy light]

Expedition can be started from main save with items from main

Possibly flyable pirate freighters in the future

[sour fossil]

HG is testing new way of starting expeditions

From the confines of Space Anomaly on your existing saves

[heavy light]

And an expedition currently named “Omega”

[crude sand]

Interesting do we know what coverts over or what happens when we start it within a save?

[late tusk]

i just hope its the space station one.

[analog breach]

Good old formula was geting old

[sour fossil]

Judging from the files available now - it's not

[heavy light]

@sweet gust

Wrong chippy

Fuck

[crude sand]

I’m no dingus

[heavy light]

Sorry chippy dingus

[crude sand]

Oh I actually kinda like that lol

[late tusk]

GUH

[mighty rampart]

they all seem very generic, nothing stood out to me
mine stuff, build base, farm stuff, feed animals
but each phase has you visiting the atlas station

[late tusk]

i really hope we dont have to wait 8 weeks for this exped to be over before we get it

[analog breach]

^

[crude sand]

So the freighters how do we know this?

[mighty rampart]

lol I wonder if we're getting new foods or its just some artwork fun

[heavy light]

Files

[crude sand]

Oh gimme

[late tusk]

it was a dead giveaway in the trailer

you could see it in the end

[mighty rampart]

It does feel this version of the exped is a placeholder for testing

[crude sand]

You could see one there not that it was flyable

[mighty rampart]

otherwise this is just the same vibes as pioneers exped, nothing interesting

[late tusk]

yeah but ussualy when sean puts things in those

it means something

[mental socket]

Interesting stuff

[sour fossil]

There was a mention of some food in new texture files

[heavy light]

You call this “not interesting”

[late tusk]

grah i am not sure if i will come back to this

[heavy light]

A sick jetpack and staff

[mental socket]

no new stations yet?

[late tusk]

wait for big update or do this one .-.

[heavy light]

Doesn’t look like it

[mental socket]

those are heccen fancy

[knotty mountain]

WANT

[sour fossil]

Nothing points out to new stations being in the game for now

[late tusk]

:C

[crude sand]

Sure but now we have more information, that is not something we could have gathered from the teaser

[late tusk]

i also read up a bit. are we getting pirate camps :O

[knotty mountain]

New expedition in experimental ye?

[dire drum]

You forgot the helmet

[sour fossil]

1st time we get a Multi-Tool as exped reward

[heavy light]

Here’s all the rewards

[dire drum]

Yes

[fleet nacelle]

people been saying it gonna be last update for nms lol

[crude sand]

These are pretty fucking cool

[analog breach]

It Looks like new monolith mt tech

[heavy light]

Staff and jetpack are coolest imo

[dire drum]

Well, they’re wrong

[late tusk]

atlas armor when

[dire drum]

Nah, the helmet is sick as fuck

[sour fossil]

I would love to see Atlas inspired body pieces

Not just armor

[fleet nacelle]

hopefully, people been saying because they slowing down and working on light no fire :b

[uncut harness]

This is probably gonna be what outlaws was to echoes

[heavy light]

They’re different teams

[late tusk]

outlaws still is the best hands down :)

[dire drum]

They’ll likely slow down updates, but not stop them altogether

[late tusk]

but echoes added even more to it

[heavy light]

Yeah I guess

[dire drum]

The expedition looks easy enough

[fleet nacelle]

🥹

[mighty rampart]

wonder if we all will start with a black and red solar ship

[heavy light]

And they’ve already been working on LNF for years

[dire drum]

Wonder if there’ll be any interesting story content

[dire drum]

I can already tell you you don’t

[heavy light]

Without slowing down

[mighty rampart]

I'm pretty sure most of the missions are placeholders and we'll get a different rendition in the final version

[heavy light]

So experimental just gets the rewards easier lol

[dire drum]

So what I’m hearing is finish this ASAP so I can get the rewards without putting in any effort

Gotcha

[crude sand]

lol rip me on Xbox

[sour fossil]

Just because someone plays now on experimental, doesn't mean the rewards obtained now will persists on public releaase

[crude sand]

Actually keen tho this stuff looks way cool

[sour fossil]

Because the unlocked rewards are saved only as a text entry

[heavy light]

I’m on switch, it’s probably gonna be an extra 4 weeks before we get the expedition

[crude sand]

lol I hope not, I will give hug if need be

🫂

[heavy light]

Ooh

[mighty rampart]

missions seem multi-steps? like I thought my only objective was to lift off but the mission is continuing and right now its tracking my distance travelled with no goal mentioned

[analog breach]

I hope not

[sour fossil]

So: if HG for this "beta" has reward Atlas Sceptre coded as _S12_TOOL_ATLAS

[late tusk]

HG should beta the space stations :D

[sour fossil]

All they need to do is change the reward name to _S12_TOOL_ATLAS1

[dire drum]

The goal is to reach another planet

[mighty rampart]

new interaction button

[sour fossil]

And you will have to play it again to get it back

Because in your save data, there will be the old name

[mighty rampart]

more info

[sour fossil]

return to primary

Oh that is neat

Oh that is super neat actually

No need to create multitude of saves and you get extra bonuses on your main save

With all the shitty design decisions they make on certain aspects of the game

The technical framework behind it is something Im super impressed by

[latent heath]

sooooooooo the new expedition feature on experimental does that mean we can do it outside of standard expedition times?

[sour fossil]

Considering the new UI shows "time remaining: X days" I would say no

It's probably just a measure to invite more people into expeds by 1) having them launch from existing save with some starting goodies

And 2) having them see the new expedition is running, I've seen people complaining that the 1 line of text in save select screen is not enough

[late tusk]

i know people would get angry cus "ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT i put into it?" but the very last update for NMS they should unlock all exped rewards for everyone

[sour fossil]

Not me lol

[latent heath]

@sour fossil do we keep material stockpile when we use the new feature or is inventory goin poof?

[sour fossil]

I did expeds in original run and I still point people to using save editor / mods / service bot to get these rewards if they want them

I dont care what other people do and how they play

[sour fossil]

No idea since I dont play the experimental update

[latent heath]

i might hop on experimental tbh

[sour fossil]

I'm still on public, I just have the list of changed and new files from the latest build

[mighty rampart]

you can stockpile only once, afterwards you cant put in more items you can only pull out

[sour fossil]

Courtesy of people from the modding server who do use experimental and prepare such comparison of files between game builds

[mighty rampart]

once I took out all the items from there I couldnt put in anything

couldnt add items from my exped save to here either

[heavy light]

The starship and Multitool copy thing, is that for the expedition ones or main save ones?

[analog breach]

Imo Copy of your ship and mt on expedition save from main save

Too OP imo

[mighty rampart]

no

the opposite

[heavy light]

Copy exped ship onto main save?

[mighty rampart]

yes

I guess its to address those users who would find something cool during an exped and want to keep it for their main save

nice feature

[analog breach]

" when expedition is complete use this terminus to return items to primary save"

[mighty rampart]

I guess I can only use the transfer machine once I finish the exped but cant use it to cheat by transferring items in between

[heavy light]

I wish I could do that for my funny module exotic

[quasi oyster]

Ok, this is potentially huge as this could allow us to transfer expedition unique items and tech (the freighter experimental warp drive comes to mind!) to our main saves

[sour fossil]

I do not think that is the case

Since these modules are flagged as Core modules and therefore can't be packed / dismantled

And trying to install those expedition-specific core modules alongside standard ones (ex. Waveform Engine + Pulse Engine) on a single ship causes the game to bug out

[heavy light]

You could potentially send copies of ships with unique modules to main save

[quasi oyster]

Isn’t the one tech in the image a repacked? Core X are purple

[heavy light]

It’s not a core module

[sour fossil]

It is a packed jetpack upgrade

[heavy light]

Core modules are modules that can’t be repackaged

[analog breach]

Imo its just specific for exp 12.

[sour fossil]

Only procedurally generated upgrades can be packed

[heavy light]

“In my opinion it’s just specific for exp 12.”
Uhhhh sure

[mighty rampart]

its a jetpack upgrade, not a core module (its not literally the jetpack tech)

[analog breach]

The shared inventory window.

[heavy light]

I doubt they would code all that for a one time thing

[quasi oyster]

But that’s the point, things like the experimental warp drive were craft able, if memory servers me right. Thus theoretically transferable

[analog breach]

Its Sean . You never know for sure

[sour fossil]

Just because something has a crafting recipe, does not mean it can be crafted

Crafting recipes exist in case this tech module were damaged, so that player could repair it

Vesper Sail has crafing recipe, all the unique technologies of Living Ships have crafting recipies, yet we don't craft them ourselves

[mighty rampart]

so many Starlord mentions made me almost think this is gonna be a GOTG crossover

[hybrid pendant]

@sour fossil u can do me a resume quickly?

or if u cant its ok

[sour fossil]

Honestly I dont feel like it

[hybrid pendant]

no problem

[sour fossil]

Just scrol up the convo

Gumsk also provided lots of info

[hybrid pendant]

soo u can make ur own multi tool

from what i see

[hybrid pendant]

this looks like it

[mighty rampart]

you dont make your own multitool, you can get a copy of your expedition-owned multitool to your main save

[late tusk]

😭

[mighty rampart]

that and ship

[hybrid pendant]

from what i saw i kinda wanna pass on that expedition

feels like i can gain them in future twitch campaign soo

but this remind me of living ships

living ships update was released in experimental

[late tusk]

so im guessing we dont get space stations yet 🥱

[dire drum]

Nope

Patience is a virtue

[late tusk]

*Sigh

why is the side channels text so huge again ;c

[rustic haven]

Dang, expeditions are usually a month or two long. then likely 3-5 week break before even a possible update. I suspect space stations wont be out till june or even longer

[rustic haven]

I suspect the space station rework is bigger than we expect, they may possibly have new pirate stations or abandoned stations that act like dungeons. but thats all speculation. Or they could add claiming stations with the override chips and allow building in them too. There is no telling how big/small it is till it drops

Because last year when it leaked, alot of it seemed done for the exterior stuff

They could just be adding in new models though for more randomization

[late tusk]

:(

guess i wont be playing till then

[rustic haven]

yeah, really hoped it was finished up. Who knows though, they may release the stations and stuff alongside the expedition

[safe kiln]

does the experimental expedition have a set of rewards, or are those on hold for full release too?

[late tusk]

it makes the most sence why show that ship with the space stations if it wasnt ready

[snow stream]

We really don't know what they're planning right now
this is something completely new, they've never done anything like this
it makes sense they wouldn't give us everything just to test if this expedition system works

[safe kiln]

"omega" being the name of it tells me a good deal, though

[dire drum]

It actually does, but I’m unsure if it’ll transfer between exp and public

[rustic haven]

But I would expect the expedition to be more station focused in that case instead of planetary rendevou's

[safe kiln]

that, in combination with this new method of running expeditions, implies that HG might be done with expeditions going forward

[late tusk]

🥳

[rustic haven]

I feel expeditions are going to be meshed into normal gameplay, such as the weekly challanges, instead now its like weekly expeditions

with randomized challenges and rewards

[safe kiln]

hmm, if anything i'd expect they might cycle through which of the 12 expeditions is available on a weekly to monthly basis, if only one is available at a time

i'm just hopeful for the prospect of having the chance to do expeditions 1-4, really

[gusty stream]

That would be excellent

[livid zinc]

I like how the ship hovers instead of landing

https://youtu.be/HonKYAba8PI?si=6y20AMGRpHe-gm3W

[sour fossil]

Yeah its a nice touch

[analog breach]

I wonder if it has unique cockpit design..

[spice gorge]

That's becuase it's clearly, 100% a nod to the anti-gravity racing ships in the game Wipeout. It looks almost exactly like one of the ships in that game - and the hovering seals the certainty. Well done, HG. That game (series) is awesome. I've got every copy made.

[heavy light]

@wooden anvil new ship as an expedition reward to be released soon

[spice gorge]

Some ships pictured on the covers - similar, eh?

[heavy light]

As well as new MT

[wooden anvil]

eeeeeeew

[storm latch]

Ooh wow

[analog breach]

Its just atlas skin for staff

[wooden anvil]

looks so bad

[heavy light]

It hovers

[storm latch]

SENTINEL SHIP BUT NOT SENTINEL OOOH

[wooden anvil]

you mean like a helicopter?

[heavy light]

Jetpack and helmet too btw

[wooden anvil]

i thought it was an exocraft when i saw it

[heavy light]

When you land, instead of landing gears it hovers with thrusters

[spice gorge]

It is an anti-gravity racing ship, after all... 🙂

[heavy light]

Yeah

[analog breach]

A bit disapointed that it is unique model not new ship type.

Ship still looks cool tho

[livid zinc]

I hope this ship doesn't go the same way as previous expedition ships as no extra use

[analog breach]

All ships dont have any extra use tho

Other than storage mules

[wooden anvil]

oh

thats kinda cool ig

[wooden anvil]

you guys think it will be significantly faster tho?

[native carbon]

is there a list of all new rewards

[compact coyote]

Can someone tell me what’s happening

[wooden anvil]

update

expedition

on trial for pc

coming soon for everyone

[safe kiln]

i'm 50/50

[uncut harness]

The speeder came shortly before the interceptors and it had a few similarities. Makes me wonder if we'll end up getting a racer ship type at some point

[safe kiln]

on the one hand, yeah it would have definitely been cool to have another new ship class

[native carbon]

guys

[zenith perch]

expedition update on pc but also a bunch of datamined stuff was found implying station update potentially

[safe kiln]

on the other, i'm glad I only have to update AddMissingTrails with one ship (and that's a maybe) 😅

[native carbon]

those rewards are sick!

[heavy light]

Player owned pirate freighters soon it seems too

[livid zinc]

Apparently one of the files mentions 'racer'

[spice gorge]

Yea, pictured above.

Based on the Wipeout anti-gravity racer ships clearly

[heavy light]

Here you got it

[analog breach]

Omega= Atlas? The last? 🤔
Alpha = void mother? The first ? 🤔

[mighty rampart]

that would be pretty disappointing lol, when they clearly showed off both in the trailer
even the expedition itself seems pretty scuffed, which is clearly intentional when they're properly outlined that this is a version of the expedition only meant for testing this possibly game breaking feature before it ships to everyone

[compact coyote]

Wen atlas falls

[livid zinc]

Sounds just like the Utopia Speeder....

[safe kiln]

nah, there's a good possibility that the update ships with the expedition

they do that for like, every other expedition

[heavy light]

It probably will be but reskinned

Just like almost all other exclusive ships

[analog breach]

And slightly changed stats

Maybe

[mighty rampart]

I was already expecting the ship to be from an expedition lol

[safe kiln]

interesting that the player title is "starborn". don't we already have a title like that?

[spice gorge]

( Below, ships from the Wipeout game series )

[livid zinc]

I read they fixed the explorers broken engine missing too

[spice gorge]

I'll stop posting Wipeout stuff now.

[mighty rampart]

yes can confirm

as I main an explorer

[safe kiln]

that's a blast from the past, I used to play one of these games on a PSP when I was like six

[mighty rampart]

the exhaust trails are still misaligned though

[livid zinc]

Wish they would fix the shuttles that have either the little fan or winglets one sided and pushing through

[spice gorge]

I remember the experience of playing Wipeout on the orig PSX for the first time. Friend's console. I went and bought a Playstation later that night...

[safe kiln]

me, not having that problem because I fixed them myself:

[analog breach]

Thats why i was hoping for whole new ship type

[wooden anvil]

oh MY

that jetpack

[mighty rampart]

also realised this new system might give them a nice way to let people do older expeditions easier

[heavy light]

Yep

The staff is pretty sick too

[livid zinc]

Call me Cynical but I was hoping this ship would have a new custom building aspect to it

[heavy light]

And so is the helmet

[wooden anvil]

FRRRR

love it

how do i get these

[errant socket]

Knew it

[wooden anvil]

pls tell me i dont need to get a twitch account

[errant socket]

Exped reward

[heavy light]

Play on PC and be an experimental player

Or wait

[mighty rampart]

no it will be one of the expedition rewards once the update is fully out

[livid zinc]

Bring in an autophage scrap style ship that we build from crashed ships

[mighty rampart]

highly recommend not actually playing this expedition

[wooden anvil]

i mean, when that thing is released on consoles

how am i supposed to get it?

[heavy light]

A few weeks probably

We’re gonna have to wait until public update

[mighty rampart]

and wait for the proper one to come out to public branch

[livid zinc]

Just make a separate save

[heavy light]

The milestones are so easy they’re likely to change with the public release

These are probably just placeholders

[livid zinc]

They also warn not to just switch between experimental and normal

[mighty rampart]

I am 90% sure the expedition missions will change in the final release

so you're not gonna get the true experience if you do it now, this is purely to test the saves

[wooden anvil]

once its released what will i have to do in order to get these things? do we not know that yet?

[lapis tiger]

i was told here are info abt new update

[heavy light]

Theyll probably also make the experimental versions unusable with public release

[livid zinc]

Will all be in release notes

[mighty rampart]

though I wish the goals were much shorter so I could actually test it in a couple hours or something

[heavy light]

Start an expedition
Either from save menu or space anomaly

Then beat it

[mighty rampart]

or dev commands

[lapis tiger]

in what amout of this is update expected to drop?

[wooden anvil]

oh great

[analog breach]

Probably you will need to do new expedition when it becomes active

[heavy light]

A few weeks

[wooden anvil]

i hope i have enough time for that when it comes

[heavy light]

We don’t know

[livid zinc]

There are a few streaming the expedition on yt

[heavy light]

Experimental players

[livid zinc]

Yes

[heavy light]

And like I said the milestone requirements are likely to change

[wooden anvil]

i have never done an expedition before

[safe kiln]

anyway, anyone who's on experimental and ends up getting that ship, please mention/message me with images of it's trails

[livid zinc]

Fingers crossed we eventually can pick any expedition from the new computer terminal

[heavy light]

@safe kiln

Latter half has ship flying in space

[analog breach]

My bet is. If not now, all will be available after last one to rerun.

[heavy light]

I highly doubt it
My guess is that this is just their answer to “How do I play expedition?”

[safe kiln]

ey, thanks

looks like all of it's engines are covered

[livid zinc]

The same folks though wouldn't know about calling in anomaly lol

[heavy light]

Trust me

I’ve seen people with between 50 and 100 hours not knowing how to play expedition

[analog breach]

We already know how to start expedition. Terminal to activate old ones is more legit imo. And there is already a mod to play all old redux expeditions. But time will tell what hg have in mind how to use new terminal 🙂

[heavy light]

Just wait for the terminal to not exist on switch because “too hard” lol

[analog breach]

😂

[livid zinc]

I wish on consoles they gave the option to:
(A) chose between a quick save & auto save when loading to avoid crash loops.
(B) an option to copy a save slot in the load menu like most games do

[analog breach]

Switch 2 will be able to handle it. Maybe even settlements

[heavy light]

Hopefully

[ember heart]

so what about this experimental expedition?

[heavy light]

Basically

You’re now able to start expeditions from the anomaly

[ember heart]

oh neat

like old ones?

[heavy light]

And send a few items over to the new expedition

[heavy light]

Maybe

We don’t know about that yet

[ember heart]

what??

send items over?

[livid zinc]

As I only joined nms on switch launch day (now on series x), have they first run a whole expedition in experimental before? I understand running updates there first...

[heavy light]

When you start an exped from an old save you can send 30 items and 10 tech items over

And redeem them in the anomaly

Here are the rewards btw @ember heart

[safe kiln]

ah, you have to go to the anomaly to redeem the items within the expedition?

[heavy light]

Yep

[ember heart]

so you can send items from your main save to the exp one and then back?

[heavy light]

Yep

[ember heart]

that backpack

so can you actually play the expedition rn?

[heavy light]

And you can create copies of your expedition ship and mt and send to your main save too

[heavy light]

Only if you’re on experimental branch

[ember heart]

oh :(

[safe kiln]

good way to limit expeditions like Cartographers, I suppose

[livid zinc]

Tbh I always preferred the restrictions of expeditions forcing you into survival mode from the start with nothing.

[compact coyote]

So the expedition is fully out? Or no

[heavy light]

No

[ember heart]

it is gonna be released to all consoles later right?

[heavy light]

It will probably go public in a few weeks

[analog breach]

Its Too OP imo. Or the exp wil be hard enough so you need your end/main game stuff (doubt)

[ember heart]

I love how it's all atlas themed

the style is amazing

[safe kiln]

wonder if this means I can send stuff from my expedition saves to my main save file now

i've got like one or two 10-10-10-10 suspicious hazard modules in them that i'd be interested in moving over

[livid zinc]

That's actually a good point about transferring extra items back after instead of just rewards

[heavy light]

You’d probably need new saves

I doubt it’s a universal thing

[safe kiln]

damn

[heavy light]

Because I believe as it seems now (granted I haven’t played yet) you send items from one save into the expedition

Then at the end you send items back into the save you sent items from

[ember heart]

ah that makes sense

but the idea is really cool

WAIT i have a question that the devs should probably think of

[compact coyote]

Loop 16 is the void mother

[ember heart]

what is my main save is already and expedition save

how would that work

[compact coyote]

Imagine

[heavy light]

It’s just like a normal save after it’s over

[ember heart]

ah ok

[sour fossil]

👀

[heavy light]

CUSTOMIZATION!??

Probably just color change like the other freighters

[gusty stream]

[compact coyote]

Wiahhhhhhhh

[sour fossil]

Yeah prolly just the colours

[compact coyote]

This update might be huge

[sour fossil]

Keep in mind just because the properties exist in the code now, does not mean HG has to use them now

Maybe they are just planting them for the future

Looks like there will be some changes to the Construct an Outpost mission type from Nexus

New properties for new logic

Probably also game warning player in advance "you will need to buy these parts"

[mental socket]

curious about new lore in the expedition

and what it will tease for the future

[gusty stream]

Atlas themed expedition = mucho lore

[heavy light]

I hope we get more atlas themed customization in the future

Like they did with autophage

You get a head in one exped then next update the race is released or something

[sour fossil]

HG planning out in advance lol

[runic mesa]

Lol, there goes the "HG is about to end NMS updates" speculation.

[gusty stream]

16

[icy citrus]

Till after it comes out

[gusty stream]

16161616161616161616161616161616th expedition

[sour fossil]

There is lots of properties that reference something called a Trial

It's a part of the mission structure

Game has condition checks: check if trial is active (or maybe completed?)

And there are different stages of trials

[runic mesa]

Interesting...

[sour fossil]

Another hint for player owned pirate freighters - new NPC interaction data type

[gusty stream]

Oho!

[runic mesa]

That doesn't surprise me. I bet they planned to have them eventually recuitabled even before Echos came out and everyone went bananas over them.

[sour fossil]

Looks like game will be able to detect and tell players the exact reason for not being able to place a base part

Kinda cool actually, big fan of QoL improvements like this

[dire drum]

I think it did that before

[heavy light]

It’s gonna keep going for every new update saying “this is the last”

And having the expedition named Omega (last letter of the Greek alphabet) is suspicious ngl

[analog breach]

And the expedition seems atlas related

[heavy light]

But no I don’t believe HG is dropping the updates

[analog breach]

Omega =atlas???

[dire drum]

“Seems” is the understatement of the century my friend

[sour fossil]

It might be, Im not really a dedicated base builder

Those are just new data structures that HG is using for the experimental build

Meaning probably those were not present in game before

[analog breach]

Nothing sure untill oficial release

[dire drum]

This thing couldn’t be more obviously related to the atlas if it had a sign saying “this is related to the atlas”

[runic mesa]

Could mean something else, like just a conclusion to the Atlas storyline.