nms-spoilers

[frail garden]

The other 2 look really cool too

[spring hawk]

a new race is exciting, just imagine all the customization opportunity

[uncut harness]

Playable Diplo confirmed!?!?!?

[compact coyote]

Look at that wizard robot

With the hood and the staff

Looks so cool

[rustic haven]

I'm excited for pirate stuff

[compact coyote]

That pirate freighter up there looks like it’s blowing an entire fleet to shreds

[frail garden]

Yeah I heard there was going to be some more space combat? Or am I wrong?

[uncut harness]

Thats one hell of a freighter then

Unless its just a giant dreadnought

[spring hawk]

i would love to have a freighter class above captial

even if its another capital ill be stoked, cause it looks amazing

[uncut harness]

Super star destroyer type freighter shows up

[spring hawk]

as long as it doesnt have 2 antennas RIGHT OUTSIDE THE EXIT

[frail garden]

Death Star appears

[uncut harness]

That hooded autophage(?) looks badass

Wait no autophages look different

I already forgot bruh

[frail garden]

If those are all customizable characters

[spring hawk]

no biggie its not like they do anything in the game

[frail garden]

I’d love to use the one on the right

[uncut harness]

That living ship in the back doing its own thing

[frail garden]

Also looks like there will be a new backpack

[compact coyote]

Bread 👍

[spring hawk]

that makes me expect new Korvax lore, since the robots/constructs and living ships are connected to them

Bread 👍

[frail garden]

Bread 👍

[compact coyote]

I desperately need a trailer tomorrow

It’s like crack

Bread 👍

[uncut harness]

Alright lets go to korvax prime, its not like its already been obliterated for eons

[spring hawk]

good source of materials if you know what i mean

[compact coyote]

An /echo/ of korvax prime

[uncut harness]

Cant stop staring at that poster

[rustic haven]

Wonder what lore justification will be used to introduce these new bots

Or will they just exist

[spring hawk]

cant wait for the trailer and patch notes

[uncut harness]

I cant play until September

[spring hawk]

i am addicted

[uncut harness]

Actually its probably for the best because even if the update came right now my playstation would crumble

And i’d wait a few weeks anyways for patches

[spring hawk]

fair

[rustic haven]

I got to move Saturday and pack Friday, so if it releases Thursday I got half a day to play:/

[spring hawk]

cant wait to see how the game looks, havent fired it up since i bought a new PC and ill finally have an excuse to

[rustic haven]

Then starfield launches and I still have to finish baldurs gate ect ect lol

[frail garden]

I just hope it releases before I have to go back to school

🤞

[rustic haven]

Leak was Thursday is release date

[frail garden]

Oh okay

[rustic haven]

So expect a trailer possibly tommorow

[frail garden]

Awesome

[rustic haven]

But noting is positive, so who knows

[frail garden]

Yeah maybe I shouldn’t get as excited then

[compact coyote]

The origins poster and Echoes poster are tied rn for the best

[frail garden]

I haven’t seen the origins poster

[rustic haven]

Nothing wrong being excited

[uncut harness]

No Man’s Sky Oranges

[frail garden]

Oh nvm I have seen that

[sour fossil]

Could be the streamlined jetpack from expedition, it has a square camera

[frail garden]

Oh probably

Oh yeah that’s it

[uncut harness]

The weird staff things have me interested

[frail garden]

Same

I’m gonna be going around and smacking sentinels in the face with a stick 😂

Gonna be fun if it’s a melee weapon

[uncut harness]

Giant walker being one of the trillions of robots being used as overwatch for the universe getting dismantled by a fancy stick

[frail garden]

HELL YEAH!!

[uncut harness]

origins?

[compact coyote]

God I hope it’s a melee weapon

[frail garden]

TAKE THAT! wack

[uncut harness]

Space combat sounds pretty cool aswell

[compact coyote]

I’m hyped

[frail garden]

That was the old update

[uncut harness]

In my spare time I’d usually just shoot sentinel dreadnoughts

[frail garden]

The new one is No Mans Sky: Echoes

[uncut harness]

another one? ohhhh

[frail garden]

Yep

[uncut harness]

Imagine the station override still never gets a purpose

[frail garden]

😭

[compact coyote]

💀

[frail garden]

I’m gonna start making a time travel machine so I can go to the future and then share what the update is

Hold one brb

[uncut harness]

I’m travelling in time right now

Get good

[frail garden]

Damn bro I just checked out the update

[frail garden]

And it still doesn’t have a purpose 💀

[uncut harness]

Its just another expedition

but with 10 phases

[frail garden]

Omg

[compact coyote]

It’s gonna be NMS but it’s gonna have a pay to win system

🤣

[uncut harness]

Want to be a robot? Pay us!

I’m not expecting too much from the update

[frail garden]

POV: EA bought NMS

[compact coyote]

Lolll

[frail garden]

You land on a pad and you get a message that says “Parking fee $9.99”

[uncut harness]

😬😂

[signal tulip]

at this point? Gladly.

[mossy olive]

A straight up nightmare.

[frail garden]

Yup

[blazing river]

https://youtu.be/xUyT9DNXAyg

[tall sphinx]

does anyone know if update is coming today?

[dense quartz]

Apparantly tomorrow.

[tall sphinx]

dang

[late tusk]

:(

[ripe oasis]

How can you tell?

[dense quartz]

There's two articles online saying so.

Insider gaming and gamesradar, though the latter got removed.

[faint remnant]

Maybe we'll get the trailer today :/

[dense quartz]

When you realize the update is releasing in about 24 hours or less. 👀

[next lagoon]

Hopefully the trailer releases today

[late tusk]

i wish it was today instead

[dense quartz]

Same. I thought it would be unti l I read those articles.

[late tusk]

😡

[mental socket]

Well the article said it'd release 24.8. Kinda seems like it's supposed to release at least a day before the update

wouldn't it say "releasing today" otherwise

[dense quartz]

I find it weird how one article talked about Echoes and got taken down almost instantly, and then another one popped up just a few hours after it and it stayed up.

[mental socket]

maybe because that one didn't reveal spoilers whilst the other one did?

[dense quartz]

They say pretty much the same stuff.
New race, freighter battles, staff.

I think the first one mentioned freighter battles include trenches like in Star Wars.. maybe that was inacurate cause I seriously can't believe NMS has collision that good now lol

[compact coyote]

I see the trailer coming out today

[dense quartz]

I'm so used to getting stuck in invisible stuff while enemy ships phase through freighters.

[late tusk]

i hope the battles are more than just trenches

[molten karma]

Not a single tweet for about a day now. Hopefully we don't see a delay lol.

[uncut harness]

Is this legit?

[mental socket]

yup

[uncut harness]

I saw this yesterday, thoughts?

[minor flicker]

Probably means ownable space stations will be in the echoes update hopefully

[knotty mountain]

So I was thinking about it more and everything in that article has actually already happened, if you think about it

[tall sphinx]

i hope so

[knotty mountain]

The new robot race was already introduced with the singularity expedition so we already knew that

[uncut harness]

Not exactly

[knotty mountain]

Like what?

[dense quartz]

A space station is shown in the cover art for the first time so they're definitely getting some attention.
Though I was hoping they'd get overhauled like the leaks showed us.

[uncut harness]

Well, the Construct was related to the Sentinels, this will be a "long-hidden race",

[mighty rampart]

but we never saw the actual race being alive and well, we constructed one

now we're likely going to meet intact ones who are hiding who knows where

and judging from the cover art, we're seeing some variation in their appearances

[knotty mountain]

But the "rituals" they had us perform was expedition 10

[uncut harness]

Echoes cover art?

This one?

[knotty mountain]

Right there will for sure be new NPCs but nothing in the article related to content is new

[dense quartz]

Yeah.

[knotty mountain]

We knew w there would be a new race already because that was the whole point of the expedition

[mighty rampart]

the writer probably paraphrased too liberally

[knotty mountain]

I'm thinking they didn't even have any actual info

[dense quartz]

lol I won't believe the Star Wars trenches thing until I see it.

[minor flicker]

I also wonder if they will do proc gen improvements to the terrain perhaps cause in the origin update which was about 3 years ago there were some big terrain improvements but I don’t know if in the patch notes for echoes there will be any terrain improvements cause I am pretty sure it’s just the new robotic alien race and some quality of life changes cause nothing been leaked about proc gen so unfortunately I don’t think there will be proc gen improvements but oh well still love what hello games are doing

[knotty mountain]

I think that they were talking about sentinel freighter

[mighty rampart]

definitely no trenches, it will probably just be like sentinel freighter battles

[knotty mountain]

Exactly and sentinel freighter battles were already added

[mighty rampart]

and maybe the rituals are for getting the variation of the customizations

[knotty mountain]

What in the article is new that we haven't done already

[knotty mountain]

The rituals were the singularity expedition and the reward for the expedition was the construct customization

Already happened

[mighty rampart]

its now being extended to pirates, people have been asking for it since ages

[proven aurora]

a question mark proboly nothing connected but you never know

[mighty rampart]

but there's more head and body designs just judging from the cover art

[proven aurora]

also ownable station could be troublesome in popular system depending what you can do

[dense quartz]

I disagree that the terrain was improved.
All they did was add new planets that has the same exact terrain but just restretched and resized carelessly. The terrain looks like someone's very first introduction to 3D modeling. It's just gross smooth sinewaves across the whole surface with 0 care for the player's experience or navigation.

[knotty mountain]

Those have been like that for years, not related to this update most likely

[compact coyote]

Some people actually think the echoes cover art is AI generated and fake for some reason

[uncut harness]

Senior couch game dev in chat

Freighters should probably get more attention

[knotty mountain]

Are those customization options or are those just the new NPCs? I think they're just new NPCs

[molten karma]

We really need a proc gen overhaul I'm sick of seeing the same planets every screenshot and people acting like it's amazing new and unique.

[compact coyote]

Yeah that’s a new race for sure

[dense quartz]

❔

[proven aurora]

better npc interation too

[uncut harness]

Agreed, maybe planets with more biomes?

[proven aurora]

progen chats

[knotty mountain]

The cover art is the only thing I believe is real

[proven aurora]

use ai in npcs become really sentient

[compact coyote]

That’s an awesome idea for NMS

[uncut harness]

Maybe animals will become sentient?

[minor flicker]

Yea I suppose that’s right they added in new terrain but again it’s a bit yea all over the place but that’s what happens when they don’t know to do perfect proc gen I guess it’s hard but hay at least ray rod the modder is making infinite variation for everything in no man’s sky it’s not ready yet but he seriously is a genius

[mighty rampart]

new NPCs but its being placed in the same 3 spots as previous cover arts that were for the player customizations, and by past experience we'll definitely get the same customizations as the new NPCs even if its not all of them like how we cant look like certain Traveller NPCs

[proven aurora]

indervidual repuation should be added and affects there relations as well

[uncut harness]

Trenches?

[molten karma]

They need to ditch the biome system like their original pitch said and just incorporate true procedural generation that is akin to the super formula or whatever. Right now the game feels more like random generation tbh.

[knotty mountain]

That's a fair point, I suppose I could see good arguments on either side, we'll just have to see, I'll be happy either way honestly

[proven aurora]

closer to the sun but with differnt atmosuhere hotter colder ect

[mighty rampart]

just waiting to see what else they will add for the update, cuz most gaming journalists only cover just the very biggest stuff

[uncut harness]

Multiple biomes in each planet

[compact coyote]

I feel like HG will complete this “superformula” and implement it to the game, I know lots of people have no more hope for planet variety but it’s coming. I bet you

[proven aurora]

only some planets like irl murcury is basically all one biome

[dense quartz]

Basically the article is implying this is what it'll look like fighting freighters. Scaling their surface with our ships and looking for weak points to take them down.

[compact coyote]

Seems like a really fun thing

[mighty rampart]

there's no way we're getting that lol

[minor flicker]

Well that’s will be awesome if it’s like that, but we will have to wait and see

[uncut harness]

That does seem nice

[molten karma]

It should've been the #1 thing to come to game to compete with Starfield. I feel proc gen was the only way to make the game feel truly fresh. This content will only be good for a month.

[proven aurora]

after discvering the 1000 planets yeah

[mighty rampart]

I am absolutely certain it will just be like fighting sentinel freighters, or just a variation of the freighter rescue random events except in this case you actually shoot the freighter down

[proven aurora]

which will take 6 hours

[compact coyote]

But we don’t know EVERYTHING that’s coming in this update

[uncut harness]

Terrain effects so many other systems. I don't doubt they could do it, but what is the advantage? I imagine it'd have to come with content that makes it worth the change which would be too huge. Or maybe it takes a small team years

[proven aurora]

hire ea

[molten karma]

I feel the article listed the biggest changes everything is medium to small.

[minor flicker]

Yea probably no proc gen improvements rip

[molten karma]

If there is anything else. I want to have hopium but man it's hard.

[zenith perch]

There's no pleasing the overhaul proc gen people genuinely

[proven aurora]

become ea to boost updates and team $20 per save $0.99 to change settings ect

[zenith perch]

Superformula this and superformula that

[mighty rampart]

most update articles follow the same pattern, only highlight the content that's based on the name and almost nothing else, lot of the QoL stuff HG does ends up being pretty significant sometimes

[zenith perch]

was it even proven to have existed in the first place

[knotty mountain]

I feel like the article was written by someone who didn't play the game and they just wrote down what they were told might be in the update, whether they got their guesses from an official hg rep or just from Reddit we don't know lmao

[molten karma]

Not true I think everyone would be happy if we at least got Pathfinder levels of procgen.

[compact coyote]

Exactly!

[mighty rampart]

they probably used the content hg gave them

most other sites are also probably ready with their articles cued on time

[compact coyote]

They won’t reveal every big thing about the update

There’s a whole lot we don’t know about

[dense quartz]

The two articles were writen as if they haven't played the update at all and only wrote what HG told them to write.

[knotty mountain]

They could have written the same article with exactly the same info if they had only seen the trailers for interceptor and singularity, if they didn't know anything about the game previously

[molten karma]

You guys giving me a fresh supply of hopium ❤️

[zenith perch]

What the procgen people still do not understand is terrain variation aint the issue, its planetary colouring of fauna and whatnot

[uncut harness]

Only thing suspicious about the article, is they talk about the game coming out in the future. So it seems like it was meant to come out when it was released. So either they didn't understand the timeline, or it's all speculation

Maybe they'll release thr trailer today?

[zenith perch]

I almost guarantee this would come with a universal reset which if true would destroy multiple communities

[minor flicker]

Cause this is meant to be the anniversary update so it’s got to be good I am sure it will be hopefully unless it’s a let down but I’ll try not be negative

[uncut harness]

Trailer gets released after the update most the time

[uncut harness]

👍

[zenith perch]

NMS doesn't compete with starfield though

[molten karma]

I agree for the most part but my only complaint about terrain is its to smooth and stretched looking at times I want some chances of sharp rugged voxel terrain pre Atlas Rises.

[zenith perch]

My actual issue with procgen still stems from the fact there's just too many POIs EVERYWHERE on planets

[uncut harness]

Love watching the trailer and reading the patch notes. I usually wait to play until those come out

[knotty mountain]

I mean like usually the trailer releases at approximately the same time as the update, but like minutes later

[zenith perch]

Only exception are dead moons

[uncut harness]

Yeah exactly, I just wasn't specific

[zenith perch]

I don't think pre 1.3 terrain gen would ever come back honestly

[knotty mountain]

But I totally agree with you tho, I think it's highly likely that the article was written purely on speculation

[zenith perch]

It'd look very weird in comparison to other planets available now

[uncut harness]

I could also imagine someone writing an article unaware of timelines

[mighty rampart]

yeah I doubt its actually coming tomorrow, probably got the details or something wrong which is likely why it got taken down

[molten karma]

I feel it wouldn't be out of place if they actually had old planets spawn in and just referred to it as a glitched or corrupted system that contains planets with old pre next assets and generation. I mean abandoned systems already have legacy stations why not take it further and have legacy planets as well?

[knotty mountain]

Oh for sure, regardless of whether there's any truth to the content of the article it certainly should not have been released when it was, that's why a lot of us wonder if it was an intentional leak

[molten karma]

They could spawn these glitched or corrupted systems and it'd fit with the story and prevent a reset if they spawn them in like Dissonance systems.

[minor flicker]

Yea that would add so much more variety if they could do that, that would be awesome

[knotty mountain]

I don't think they have any intention on moving backwards with anything

[molten karma]

I don't know they know a portion of the fan base miss the old version of the game. I remember a long time ago around NEXT or Beyond or somewhere in between they released player counts for each version and they were keeping a track of what versions people were playing but I was never able to find the tweet it's like Sean deleted it.

I think they stopped the count at Atlas Rises funnily enough.

I sometimes go crazy trying to find it once in a while but nothing. It's sad because it was a very interesting cryptic post.

[minor flicker]

Well hopefully Sean is listening to us proc gen fans and will improve upon it hopefully soon maybe

[compact coyote]

FIngers crosssed for trailer todayyyyy

[zenith perch]

Not every planet is gonna be completely unique honestly no matter how much they try

I see people claim the modded game looks better and its just overly bright colours that clash with the current artstyle to such a level that it looks garish.

[molten karma]

They just need to be more unique then they are now.

[compact coyote]

Kid named Fingers:

[molten karma]

I will never understand why people shit on and down variety when it's supposed to be a EXPLORATION GAME

The problem is we were sold on exploration and all the updates we got only downgraded and water that aspect down.

[zenith perch]

NMS isn't just for exploration though

[compact coyote]

Ill always want more variety and HG knows we want it, we need to be patient

[minor flicker]

I am sure they can alter the proc gen engine and make it more unique but I must say coming up with advanced algorithms for proc gen especially for totally unique terrain that looks nice and unique will be hard and tiresome so I don’t blame them not doing proc gen improvements

[zenith perch]

It was pretty evident around NEXT or whenever it was that they're using the whole pillars of design thing.

[molten karma]

You're high if you think the original marketing was targeted towards anything else but exploration. Every other pillar was just extra.

[late tusk]

its not lmaoi

[compact coyote]

yeah lol

[zenith perch]

what more can they add to exploration though minus just making things look different

[sour fossil]

Add more assets for the proc gen algorithms to use

[molten karma]

That's the whole point of exploration is having different things to see. They need to add more procgen stuff not handcrafted stuff.

[sour fossil]

Couple more models, textures, sounds mixed with older assets will add lots of variety

[zenith perch]

What's with the hostility btw

I'm not against them doing it but I fail to see what it actually adds to the game other than more things to look at.

[minor flicker]

the proc gen is not easy to make though so I don’t expect them to do it cause the only person who looks like they may achieve it is ray rod the modder but it’s still to be announced

[zenith perch]

It's not like there's no reasons to explore either

[molten karma]

I'm sick of people down playing how important procgen is when it's literally the main selling point of the game for fucks sake they still use that everything is procedural in their videos and it's always kind of annoying tbh.

The game needs to focus more on its original vision.

It's one of those things people will never realize how important it is until it actually happens officially from HG and not modders.

[zenith perch]

Who is downplaying it

And the original vision is probably never gonna happen

See this is why I think more updates like Interceptor are needed

It added new planet types, it gives context as to why they exist, and you have reasons to return if you want to keep your Interceptor ship fueled and whatnot.

That I'd not mind

[molten karma]

Interceptor is a great update because it adds more procgen to the game with the ships and depthins however the new planets aren't really that expanded its just handcrafted assets and a purple gradient applied to Origin style planets.

[zenith perch]

It works within the context of what a dissonant planet is.

[minor flicker]

Yea we need more origin style updates for sure but I don’t know if they could do it

[mental socket]

The thing about exploration is, you can't simply add more assets and noise formulas and call it a day. People will always eventually start seeing the patterns and desire more. There's also a limit to computing.

Meaningful exploration can only be acquired by tying in intriguing gameplay loops around it, as well as other reasons to explore. "More of this" will never satisfy those who desire to explore until infinity.

[zenith perch]

You keep saying handcrafted like its a fact

[molten karma]

I mean if the Atlas ends up dying and needs to reset they could use that as a story excuse to reset the whole simulation with better variety.

[zenith perch]

Procedural generation only goes so far

[compact coyote]

They’re adding more proc gen to different things in NMS right now, not terrain at the moment

Like sentinel ships are amazing for their variety

Derelict freighters

[zenith perch]

They could but they'd piss off multiple communities who play the game and they'd have to rebuild basically EVERYTHING

Thousands of hours work lost

[mental socket]

Exactly! Would call them one of the most varied ship class to date. Easily goes way past solar ships

[zenith perch]

Precisely what I want

[molten karma]

RayRod mentioned most of the variety added with fauna and other stuff doesn't contain procedural parts.

[mental socket]

And the thing about sentinel ships is, there's a little bit of new gameplay tied to them!

[zenith perch]

Then perhaps make fauna procedural with different colours and whatnot which I mentioned before

[molten karma]

Colors are predetermined and limited but the added fauna is all the same model.

No variety and limited color pool

[minor flicker]

Yea it really needs to be procedural rather than just assets but I don’t know if hello games have the capability to do it

[zenith perch]

All procgen has limits and you will see repetition no matter how hard hg try

Unless they just try taking off limits and you get very glitchy things that start trying to mash together textures that do not mesh at all.

[mental socket]

We also need to keep in mind art direction, accessibility and so on. Things about entertainment products that can't be disregarded. Letting the scripts run rampant and add true infinite variety would literally result in unplayable scenarios for some visually impaired

[molten karma]

Not if it's set up a certain way open up any blender file that contains any procedural geo nodes you could literally get infinite variation. HG just don't want to do it.

[zenith perch]

Plus performance constraints are a thing

[zenith perch]

You don't know that for sure though

It's not as simple as just opening a file and changing a number

[minor flicker]

But maybe it’s too demanding for their game engine not sure though

[mental socket]

Things like infinite color palette or model combinations will inevitably result in things that would make the game look like some random asset flippers first unity project rather than a refined piece of gaming art

[molten karma]

It's pretty close to infinite maybe not literally but it can generate quintillions of unique versions though since it could go positive and negative.

[minor flicker]

I wonder why there not using this tech yet

[molten karma]

It's more of allowing the engine to do it real time and the performance.

[mental socket]

Engine is not the limitation in this case. Rather the manpower to ensure that true infinity wouldn't result in an undesired end product.

[molten karma]

The engine could do it but how it will affect performance for real time generation is the problem. Like Blender has good performance but not sure how it would do doing 8 planets at a time lol

[mental socket]

NMS engine is way underutilized in terms of proc gen but nothing HG can do about it unless they hire a plethora of QA testers to ensure the potential infinity wouldn't result in undesired things

[elfin abyss]

you don't have to do 8 planets at a time

[minor flicker]

Maybe more better optimisation code is needed but again it’s easier said then done

[elfin abyss]

Let the players opt into experimental so they can be the QA testers

[molten karma]

The game generates the seeds as you warp in so essentially its doing all the math then.

[mental socket]

Would need to give players some additional debug tools too in that case. Not just a simple public bug hunt like our usual experimental branches

[elfin abyss]

but you aren't rendering anything inside the planet yet

[elfin abyss]

Whatever it takes. It would be the best thing to happen to the game in a long long time.

[molten karma]

Yeah but the it still takes computing power to generate the math. It can crash lower end systems after a certain point.

A disc can only read and write so vast so it would need to be optimized for it.

[elfin abyss]

lower end systems can't play the game properly anyways

[molten karma]

The game is already smart on how it distributes and draws objects it's more so the warping in and actual generating stuff that would cause issues.

However they can optimize it.

[minor flicker]

But that could take thousands of people to optimize to that extent and hello games don’t have that many people so I don’t know if they will do proc gen improvements soon

[zenith perch]

Do you just want another visions style update?

[molten karma]

I mean HG can still do a big chunk of improvements now without needed to push the absolute max.

[minor flicker]

Nah origins style update would be nice

[elfin abyss]

visions wasn't very good

[molten karma]

Like someone above said they're only using a small fraction of what there engine is capable of now. If they could push close to that current limitation we're talking e3 styles of variety.

[nocturne forum]

they have an insane amount of variable pieces, unlike many others

[zenith perch]

I don't think we'll see an origins style update this year

There's that whole story arc thing they're still doing.

[mental socket]

Yeah.

[zenith perch]

I still think e3 planets were pre generated

My stance on that will not ever change

[molten karma]

I'm thinking next year will see a procgen update.

[mental socket]

I'm happy that the story is finally moving forward. Been so long since the Ariadne and Abyss cliffhanger years ago

[molten karma]

Maybe some trade and survival improvements even?

[uncut harness]

#nms-the-future

[mental socket]

Story and lore is one of the most underrated parts of NMS. Heckin sad

[zenith perch]

I don't mind where the current survival stuff is

[mental socket]

There's lotsa in depth stuff to delve into.

[zenith perch]

It'd just get laborious if they added more requirements to survive

Plus, Waypoint added difficulty options if you want to make survival aggravating.

[molten karma]

I personally don't mind either but it'd be nice to have more depth though.

[mental socket]

Probably because it's text based and scattered across various places. Most people would want their story delivered through voice and cinematics between all the gameplay

Sad modern day standards

[molten karma]

It's not so much about harder difficulty it's more about the depth of the survival mechanics.

[uncut harness]

RP and ear

[compact coyote]

All imma say is let HG cook

[errant socket]

Fr

That poster goes hard too

[compact coyote]

It does

[sour fossil]

Hell yeah it does

There is couple of interesting things about that artwork

The debris around the space station in top right corner, what could they be

And the central figure of Atlas Interface, looks like the bits are falling off

Further corruption of Atlas? Could it be linked to the introduction of the new race?

One of the lore bits mentioned that Atlas simulated the reality over and over again, always ending up with the three primary races

And now due to whatever events, a fourth race emerges. How will that affect the simulation?

Could it trigger a BSOD for Atlas?

[mental socket]

A race of Echoes following the Void Mother? Could it be?

[icy citrus]

RSOD

[mental socket]

Means to prevent death.

[sour fossil]

Red is normal operation, blue would be the error

[mental socket]

we don't have to die on the 16th minute

[errant socket]

Skibidi Atlas

[dense quartz]

They just look like asteroids to me.

[late tusk]

Guys ive got it. 16 minuites. 16th anniversary sean shuts the game down

😭

[dense quartz]

🤯

[late tusk]

Or

Sean releases the real atlas in atmosphere and we all get starships irl and begin space age

[vestal ledge]

There were leaks of a space station visual overhaul in the files at one point

It made the stations look very high tech and alien from the outside, I hope they never scrap that idea

Also we never got anything with that space station core code ya know?

[dense quartz]

Yeah the new artwork shows off a space station for the first time, but it's the current ones. Dunno what's that about.

[vestal ledge]

I doubt this update is going to do that. This one might just revolve around the new race and pirate freighters etc

I don’t think Sean is going to create an update the size of beyond or the scale of next for a while.

[knotty mountain]

What really gets my underbits tingling is that this is only going to be part 3 of 4

[dense quartz]

I don't think there will ever be something like Next again simply because that update overhauled the entire game back when the game didn't have as much content as it does now.
I don't think they could overhaul the whole game in it's current state.

[knotty mountain]

WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER ONE AFTER THIS

I'm saying this update is going to add new gameplay mechanics and stories and new NPCs and content, then part 4 could be an update to procgen variation, chefs kiss omfg that would be absolutely beautiful

[late tusk]

Still no steam DB update :(

[knotty mountain]

The last few updates it's been really fast

We'll probably get an internal branch like right before it drops

Maybe like an hour or so

I'd love to be wrong tho

[compact coyote]

Trailer today 🤞🤞

[tepid iris]

there was one last Friday so

[dense quartz]

Tomorrow. 👀

[knotty mountain]

That was a patch

[tepid iris]

ah

[zenith perch]

i doubt it

[compact coyote]

Why

[zenith perch]

Trailers don't usually come out till the release of an update

And we've already had the teaser trailers

[tepid iris]

Yeah I wouldn't count on it

[foggy salmon]

Really excited bout the staff

I want a wizard character piloting a scifi space ship

[crude sand]

But yes i am very excited if it is true

[foggy salmon]

A new robot race too

[crude sand]

Altho i am always excited

[foggy salmon]

[crude sand]

Nms updates bring out my crazy for games

[foggy salmon]

Hope this won't be the last and they'll add more updates

😭

[compact coyote]

Damn it man I just hope Sean says something today at least

Even just a ❔

Or a poster

[strong bluff]

[compact coyote]

Lol

[zenith perch]

alex out here predicting the future

https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/1694374316404584539?

Sean Murray (@NoMansSky)

😍😍😍

via Reddit 🙏

Likes

175

Twitter · Aug 23, 2023, 3:41 PM

[compact coyote]

😂

Cmon Sean tweet again

[vestal ledge]

[dense quartz]

THAT GEK IS SO CUTE.

[spark acorn]

it almost makes me forget about the atrocities that it committed, almost

[late tusk]

Sean come oooonnn :(

[compact coyote]

Pls

[late tusk]

:(

[gusty stream]

That's Polo

[spark acorn]

oh nvm hes cool

[manic spruce]

1 day to go, unless you are on switch

[dense quartz]

Oof.

[manic spruce]

Steam usually comes first and then Xb and ps a few hours later

[dense quartz]

I remember how Steam was last when it came to Interceptor. Even the trailer and patch notes were up and Steam still didn't wanna give us the update.

[mighty rampart]

trailer, notes and even the update but to consoles

[dense quartz]

Then you'd go to steamdb and you'd see they kept plopping a new build every half hour. xD

[manic spruce]

Mm well maybe not always then

I just thought it was usually that way

[dense quartz]

Yeah it usually is. It's just that sometimes stuff breaks and I guess they ran into trouble with the Steam build for Interceptor.

[dense quartz]

So someone pointed out that the image is cropped to 1543x872 and this is what it would look like if it was 1920x1080.

Origins had it's cover art revealed before the update as well and that was also cropped originally.

[spark acorn]

Theres a version of the image thats 2048 x 1140

[compact coyote]

Wonder what the pink smoke is

[dense quartz]

Wasn't that one AI upscaled?

[spark acorn]

i have no idea I just saw the image

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/345378190568587275/1143546880857485422/F4I_pqZaQAAHIds.jpg

[dense quartz]

That one just looks resized. There's artifacting in the pic.

[spark acorn]

oh

[glad kernel]

still no any new info about Echoes, It's already Thursday here. There seems to be no updates today😢

[dense quartz]

Well it's still 5 more hours of Wednesday here in Europe. 😄

[glad kernel]

Sean always posts a new tweet the day before the update.😢

If the update is to be released on Thursday, there should be a new tweet on Wednesday.🤔

[solar cairn]

That's a big if

[zenith perch]

I sincerely doubt we'll see anything more today

[glad kernel]

I doubt that yesterday's leak caused HG to change the release time of the new version.

[spice gorge]

Numa Numan's Sky

[spice gorge]

Update's come early to mid morning for me, eastern U.S., typically.

like 1pm GMT

As I recall

[late tusk]

:(

[late tusk]

so it should be here when i wake up :0

[spice gorge]

That's a 2.4MB png containing what looks like a JPEG compressed down to 150K. Crap quality on that image within.

My guess is Sean will start a reminiscent string of tweets in the next 2-5 hours and then it will land tomorrow around noon GMT.

He'll mention Switch, PSVR2, Mac, etc.

( Mac version is quite nice. )

[late tusk]

what if he reminisces soon

and

releases it a day early :O

[spice gorge]

I wouldn't bet on it. 🙂

[late tusk]

:9

:(

[spice gorge]

That robot on the left looks kind of like a rabbit.

[dense quartz]

It'll be midnight for them by then.
More like 15 hours from now I'd say.

[sour fossil]

More like 18

Past noon, before tea time

[dense quartz]

Let's make it 16.

[spice gorge]

I think it will launch 20 hours from now.

[compact coyote]

Don’t updates release in the morning EST time?

[spice gorge]

That left robot might look more like a rabbit than this explorer (which looked to me like Robbit, the rabbit-looking robot from the superb PSX game, Jumping Flash.)

[zenith perch]

If an update was tomorrow theoretically I'd look at around a 1 to 3pm uk time trailer

[spice gorge]

It's 6:19pm in London now.

Oh, tomorrow.

[zenith perch]

So that'd be like

[spice gorge]

I think a trailer and launch will happen around 1pm UK time.

[zenith perch]

<t:1692882000:F>

ish

[compact coyote]

That usually when trailers drop, around 9 am est

Kinda

Then the update

[late tusk]

😡

i wont be home to play it at that time

[next lagoon]

Hello games actually broke tradition

[compact coyote]

Wdym?

[spark acorn]

no emoji

[next lagoon]

By not releasing it on a wednesday

Maybe there was no emojis to represent the update

[compact coyote]

Yeah it’s interesting

[glad kernel]

a stupid question, how did you send this time text

[dense quartz]

He posted the emoji on Facebook.

Everyone else: "Elon bad amiright, Sean left Twitter."
Me: "....Maybe it's a bit he's doing? Echoes? Annoucement echoed to another platform?"

[raven star]

chance the trailer drops during gamescom indies showcase?

[spark acorn]

probably pretty low

[mighty rampart]

frankly dont even remember when HG ever showed up at a con

[glass flare]

no trailer huh? damn, thought for sure I'd wake up to one

[spark acorn]

we'll probably get one at 9am est tommorrow when the update drops

[dense quartz]

The best part is when the update is available on Steam even before Sean starts his usual speech.

[late tusk]

i hope we get it at 630AM EST

[compact coyote]

Haha really?

[dense quartz]

Yeah, usually I download it before he's finished and reveals the patch notes.

[drowsy dune]

Are we allowed to talk about the article here

[spark acorn]

we have been already

[errant socket]

Was the emoji the question mark

[dense quartz]

Yep.

[sturdy sorrel]

echoes implies to me something a bit more substantial, like long term content. Instead of just one thing, the leaks are implying more of this. Showing what appears to be substantial changes to space stations, and honestly what I thought those unlocks in the expedition were going to be all along, an entirely new race.

atleast going by the cover

[rough depot]

We now have a third machine race in the game so like half of life in the galaxy is robotic at this point

[sturdy sorrel]

what was the second? the sentinels?

does that count?

[gusty stream]

Korvax

[sturdy sorrel]

what was the first?

[gusty stream]

Sentinels ofc

[sturdy sorrel]

ok

also

[rough depot]

Sentinels korvax and now the new guys

[sturdy sorrel]

gonna rub this one in. I was RIGHT.
#no-mans-sky message
#no-mans-sky message

[rough depot]

Some travelers are also robots

[sturdy sorrel]

i called that shit the second I saw it.

[sturdy sorrel]

I wonder if what -null- is counts as a robot

i always thought it was a sentient gravitino ball that had somehow obtained a mechanical apparatus to move around.

[wraith grail]

bro what thats what i thought

[gusty stream]

Apollo is too machine

[dense quartz]

Tell Apollo he's a robot.
Cough.

[late tusk]

sean plz

dont do this to us

gibb

[sturdy sorrel]

someday i'd love to see the game go "fuck it" with story and have some kind of event happen whether the atlas is restored or within the world of glass is an intact backup of everything within it.

Just so we could see all these one off traveller race designs all with a bit more customization, and spread out apon the universe like the current 3 (to be 4) races.

it be a herculean task but it be amazing to see what would be in a way a unified simulation

also either this guy is a major important character, or this is yet again another new multi-tool type.

a wizard staff multitool sounds fucking awesome.

[grand lava]

👁️👄👁️

STAFF?

[compact coyote]

It does sound awesome

Yes

[dense quartz]

I think the latter. There's been datamines of these guys walking around on settlements in robes and holding staffs

[grand lava]

WANT

WANT

[sturdy sorrel]

could also be the former, unique npc variety. not a singular important character just a unique entity

[grand lava]

I WANT ROBE AND STAFF

[normal dagger]

you get augment by using tech scrolls imagine

[compact coyote]

Space WIZARDS

[grand lava]

YES PLEASE

YES

👁️👄👁️

[tawdry quarry]

Space Wizard Money Gang

[sturdy sorrel]

oh god wait. that would literally be a korvax with this staff

[rustic haven]

Who needs a gun with BIG METAL ROD

[timid mist]

Baldurs gate 3 crossover with classes and RPG mechanics

[rustic haven]

I shall smack my enemy's with my staff

I wonder, will the head on the staff talk to us?

[grand lava]

elmo fire meme

[sturdy sorrel]

i hope we get more "weapon" multitools, staff, maybe a laser sword, etc

[grand lava]

😭😭 bro a dream

[timid mist]

as long as different materials require different tools

full farming sim moment

[sturdy sorrel]

heres a better question, i wonder with a new race, will we see npc opponents and not just sentinels

maybe these staff guys are new enemy types as well?

[timid mist]

yes please

[rustic haven]

I mean it makes sense they may be enemies of the atlas, the atlas kinda screwed them over

[sturdy sorrel]

also puts into question whether they are a race we can become?

[mild scarab]

hah, those fools in the hype channel think the update is coming next week

[sturdy sorrel]

maybe they are exclusively meant to be neutral enemies, who become hostile if we attack

[mild scarab]

still find it odd that it's coming on a thursday though

[rustic haven]

Isn't there some nms game meetup today?

I thought they might release the trailer at that then launch tommorow

[sturdy sorrel]

apparently a trailer is happening tomorrow?

[grand lava]

WHEN IS THIS UPDATE

[rustic haven]

Leaked article says tommorow

[sour fossil]

If leak is to be believes - tomorrow

[grand lava]

👁️👄👁️

Ughh

[mild scarab]

imagine that the whole leak was a move by Sean to make the real update hit way harder

[rustic haven]

Who knows

Maybe it's to temper expectations, that's why it included station A and not station B

[mild scarab]

i mean, this being the anniversary update Sean could have very well just asked the journalists to make a fake article

provided them with some fake art, too

could be cool, but very unlikely

[past shuttle]

Oh my god when is this trailer dropping 😂

[runic mesa]

What were the anniversary updates in the past?

[past shuttle]

I can't contain myself

[rustic haven]

It will drop when you stop expecting it

[mild scarab]

I believe Origins, Next, Beyond, Frontiers and Waypoint

all pretty chunky updates

[rustic haven]

I'm still not over how at the start of the summer didn't they say this was supposed to be fairly massive, or did it mean it's implications where massive on the game universe

[past shuttle]

As this is a spoilers channel, is it fair game to talk about the leaks?

[mild scarab]

that's the point of this channel yeah

[past shuttle]

Ok cool

I literally just joined the discord

[drowsy dune]

I think endurance instead of waypoint

[late tusk]

i hope we can get that guys outfit

[past shuttle]

Endurance was my favorite update personally

I love my freighter base

[mild scarab]

Waypoint was still pretty huge QoL wise, so i think that one was the anniversary update

[late tusk]

endurance was the update that changed freighters right?

[mild scarab]

yeah

[sturdy sorrel]

I feel like thats a bit much

[late tusk]

neat

[drowsy dune]

I say endurance because it was released a week after the anniversary

[mild scarab]

wasn't it released a month earlier?

[past shuttle]

I'm wondering how all this content will be presented

[mild scarab]

some time at the end of july i think

[drowsy dune]

Idk

Never mind

[sturdy sorrel]

... in a trailer.

[drowsy dune]

I thought it was late august

[past shuttle]

I meant in the game 😂

[late tusk]

gaaaah give us a trailer sean

[mild scarab]

we've always gotten the trailers on update day

[late tusk]

:(

[mild scarab]

so in about 14 or so hours we should be getting the trailer and patch notes at the very least

[late tusk]

i hope it drops like

an hour or so before i have to go

[timid mist]

I think every trailer the past like 10 updates has dropped 9am EST on a Wednesday before the update comes out. So if it's tomorrow maybe 9am trailer

[runic mesa]

I'm hoping the leak about the staff is true. A new type of MT to play around with would be cool.

EST as in Eastern Time? I'm in EST and it's 3:30pm here.

[timid mist]

Yeah same

[sturdy sorrel]

wonder if it will have its own hardware?

[timid mist]

It's just usually been on Wednesday, if it's tomorrow then could be 9am

[runic mesa]

...just realized I misread your post. I gotta stop scrolling Discord in the heat.

[timid mist]

it's all good I'm at work for a job that I'm leaving in 2 days so I'm screwing around on discord

[runic mesa]

Nice.

[dense quartz]

I think he did something like that for Origins, describing it as a very small update or something lol

[late tusk]

this is litteraly what im thinking

[sturdy sorrel]

while i do think its very likely they do intentionally leak stuff to build hype in a way that absolves them of responsibility.
I don't think anything leaked is fake

[dreamy quartz]

What? https://insider-gaming.com/details-next-no-mans-sky-echoes-update/

[snow stream]

it's not like this is the first time some publisher or website or whatever has accidentally shown something a little early

[dreamy quartz]

Aren't the Korvax robots?????

[rustic haven]

Looks like insider-gaming just used the leaked article as reference "Insider Gaming will have more on the update when it’s fully revealed by Hello Games."

[dreamy quartz]

Assuming the leak is true, what's the difference between a robot race and the korvax?

[rustic haven]

Time, different stages of evolution I guess

[snow stream]

i see korvax as more like... synthetic creatures, akin to something living with synthetic "organs" and parts
whereas these are just full on machines, with no real attempt to look or feel organic

[rustic haven]

Aka, they don't have nanites within them

[snow stream]

that too

[dreamy quartz]

Still confusing

[rustic haven]

Robots with produced organic components more akin to androids, vs just straight up robots

[late tusk]

[rustic haven]

I wonder if these new bots will appear on station type B In uninhabited systems like red star systems

[dense quartz]

The Insider Gaming article doesn't mention star wars like trenches for freighter battles.
I won't believe that until I actually see it in the game, I just assume that the first article didn't have their facts right.

[compact coyote]

I really hope that space station type Bs will show up in this update

[rustic haven]

Also it's assumable that the new robots are either not a hivemind or a different hivemind than the korvak

[dreamy quartz]

Im gonna laugh so hard if none of this is true

[rustic haven]

Need to look more into that lore from the last expedition

[rustic haven]

If it's fake that is going to be funny

But the art asset seems to be most believable

[dreamy quartz]

The staff part is what is making me suspicious

Just doesn't really fit

[rustic haven]

Could the origional leak just got the art and made assumptions based on that xD

I mean everything mentioned was in the pic except general improvements

[dreamy quartz]

We're gullible, all of us

[rustic haven]

Which could be assumed

They legit just got the leaked piece of art and ran with it

The poster doesn't even have text on it

Though if it's real, flat landscape into mountains 👀

[dreamy quartz]

That's for next?

[gusty stream]

Remember that a lot of the specifics of artwork isn't accurate to the game

[normal orchid]

It will 100% be tomorrow because I am busy.

[rustic haven]

I know lol

[dense quartz]

I hope so too, but the artwork shows the current space stations.
..But then I wonder why is a space station shown.

[compact coyote]

Exactly. Why would they feel the need to add that space station illustration.

[sour fossil]

Maybe the new race is taking some of the abandoned systems

And renovates the abandoned space stations?

Fresh coat of paint, new plumbing, fixing the lights, etc

[dense quartz]

But it'll be so weird to have both station types. Like the artstyle would clash.

[noble geyser]

Anything official for Echoes yet?

[late tusk]

:(

[noble geyser]

Huh that's surprising, guess they'll release stuff tomorrow same time as it comes out

[dense quartz]

In about 16 hours from now. Calling it. 👀

[tall crown]

Finally, cant wait for the update

This one is looking interesting
New lore, new mechanics, a staff?, new robot races, its so good.

[rustic haven]

Assuming it's real

Which at this point I'm not so sure about

[molten karma]

It's weird though since the article was written as if the update was coming at a later date instead of it being same day.

[noble geyser]

Why wouldn't it be real?

Its been reported on by two gaming websites now

[tall crown]

Very true

[rustic haven]

The second gaming website could have easily gotten it from the leaked article even saying something along the lines of "will talk more when hello games reveals it"

[noble geyser]

That's true i guess

[rustic haven]

The image itself doesn't have the normal text you would see for an update I believe with the update title and game name

[noble geyser]

I assume the author of that second article has a twitter, someone should ask him

[rustic haven]

And everything the first article describes is assumed from the image they have, no direct part of update from what it seems

[noble geyser]

Both articles read to me as if they were pushed too early

[rustic haven]

It could just be including the main features showcase from the image but I'm not holding my breath

[rustic haven]

I really think the second article was just written because of the first one

Not because hello games actually gave them info

[noble geyser]

I'd say if you have Twitter DM the guy and find out

I unfortunately do not

[rustic haven]

I don't use twitter

"Insider Gaming will have more on the update when it’s fully revealed by Hello Games." That's what makes me think it

So it is all based on the first article in my eyes

Just wait and see, but my assumption is it could be fake

[tall crown]

maybe thats true, dunno

[snow stream]

The first article was either pushed early on accident or intentionally, at this point I don't think it matters which it was
but the second one is definitely them trying to get early on the info and get clicks because we're all eager for more info, so more of us go clicking looking for something

[tall crown]

That is very true to me, my friend.

[snow stream]

and as for whether it's true or not, i know HG likes to keep quiet, but I feel like if a completely false leak that appeared 100% genuine got out, they would say something

[late tusk]

i hate how time is moving so freaking slow

[gusty stream]

Why do people think it's fake

[snow stream]

I think it's reasonable to be skeptical
it appeared suddenly, had just a little bit of info, and then vanished
better to be a little wary of something you don't know 100% for sure is true, accurate, and real, than to blindly assume it's all completely correct and feel lied to or cheated if it turns out to be false somehow

I will say though that if it was fake, the art is an incredible feat of forgery

[glass flare]

yes, I said this last night. the only source for the second article is a link to the webcache of the first article. I 100% believe the second people have no first-hand info about the update

so anything they say in that second article shouldn't be trusted as true

[late tusk]

well if it drops tommorow we will know

[snow stream]

I'm almost certain it will
why have a sale going if you're going to release halfway through the sale instead of right near the start, wouldn't you want to maximize the sale time with the update time to draw in more people?

[late tusk]

yeaaah i mean

the sale is kinda a giveaway lol

[glass flare]

pretty certain it will since the 1st article said the 24th. they wouldn't have reason to lie about it, unless HG changes the release date at the last second

[tall crown]

gotta agree with ya

[zenith perch]

Epoch time

<t:(numbers):F>

You have to use an Epoch converter

[molten karma]

What if the article got taken down because it was wrong and HG took action?

[snow stream]

It's theoretically possible, but I feel they still would have made a statement about it somewhere

[late tusk]

<t:7:F>

:O

[spice gorge]

Unlikely

[molten karma]

HG are silent af I doubt they'd say anything does anyone remember the "say hello" thing back at launch/Foundations I think it even happened again around Atlas Rises/NEXT era to.

[compact coyote]

Some people even think the new poster is fake and ai generated

Which is false, I’d be very surprised

[icy citrus]

Hand on the staff is too good

Actual circles also

[compact coyote]

Yeah that’s true

[spark acorn]

Internal branch just updated!!!!

[dense quartz]

IT'S PAST MIDNIGHT, UPDATE RELEASING TODAY HYPE.

[compact coyote]

WHAAATTTTTTTR

[dense quartz]

Tomorrow for some people, today for me.

[spice gorge]

Did that article say PSVR2 and Switch optimizations? Or did I dream that or something? Re: Echoes.

[compact coyote]

Sean just retweeted his original tweet

The one todays

[spice gorge]

Not that I'm personally waiting in suspense for that -- I play on PC and Mac but do have VR on PC and would not mind some PSVR2 optimizations come across to PC.

[icy citrus]

It did

[spice gorge]

The drawing of the launch CD hoorah?

[compact coyote]

Yes

[icy citrus]

Well, it said there were performance improvements, and that those two platforms see it the most

[spice gorge]

They did Innes well there. I quite like that sketch.

Yea, PC is still the dev platform - PC will prob see most of the tweaks for VR. VR got way cleaner on PC when the PSVR2 update came in Jan or Feb. Was nice to see.

[late tusk]

DONT SAY THIS

DONT

HOLY SHIT you arent kidding

[molten karma]

Let's goooo!!!

[late tusk]

:(

i cant send the Woo yeah baby gif :(

[spice gorge]

Yea, I still think it will be ~15 hrs from now for Public/Exp.

Big releases like this almost never go PC Experimental first - Public and Experimental update same time.

[molten karma]

They already broke the mold by releasing on a Thursday lol

[spice gorge]

I think they only did that - or part of that - for the switch to Vulkan ahead of VR.

[late tusk]

tommorow morning im guessing

[spice gorge]

back in 2019

[late tusk]

thats when it usually happens

at like 6 AM

[spice gorge]

Depends on where you are. I'm guessing you're U.S. west coast, from that.

[late tusk]

Est

[spice gorge]

If only Swatch had succeeded 20 years ago in getting the world to adopt Swatchtime.

/Alas

[late tusk]

what is swatch time

is that where

[spice gorge]

Exactly.

[late tusk]

everyone uses the same time

[uncut harness]

They probably trying to just get announced before the world is swamped in that other game's release.

[late tusk]

what

oh

i was waiting all day for internal lmao

[spice gorge]

Oh it's called Swatch Internet Time or ".beat" time - huh. You can google it.

Wow from 1998. Anyway, end of divergent commentary.

[errant socket]

Does the internal branch update mean something

[spark acorn]

the update is coming soon

[errant socket]

Ok

[grand lava]

WOO

[errant socket]

Tmrw as expected

[grand lava]

[molten karma]

Looking at Seans twitter I wonder why the mac article has such a old screenshot especially when the game just came out on mac.

[lunar surge]

So who is digging into the internal update code to see what clue may be in it?

[compact coyote]

Hmmm yeah

[late tusk]

how do you even do that

[uncut harness]

You can't

Probably thinking of experimental

[late tusk]

aww

[errant socket]

Not me

[lunar surge]

Oh yeah.

So a new race of buildable robots and now staff thing and FREIGHTER BATTLES?

Can't wait to see what the frieghter battles might be.

Until then, back to Spacebourne 2.

[sick zinc]

Ok heads up

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/15z3hfa/insider_gaming_also_published_details_for_no_mans/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

[late tusk]

man

im not gonna be able to sleep at all tonight

[tall crown]

me too

and its 8pm here in Brazil
I need to sleep but my brain refuses to do it

[sick zinc]

So usually what time zone does it release?

[spark acorn]

generally 9am est

[dense quartz]

It's past midnight in the UK now.

I'd say the update will release in 10-15 hours from now.

[manic spruce]

And remember consoles usually take a lil longer than steam

[spark acorn]

Im going to say that the update will release in 13hours and 30 minutes

[manic spruce]

I’m gonna use this ship in the ‘freighter battles’, interested to see how hard it is

[spark acorn]

Its going to be impossible

for the other ships

[unique flint]

in my opinion, this is definely the largest summer update, the atlas is on the leak image, as always they do whit the biggest summmer update

[tall crown]

TRUE

yeah

[manic spruce]

I better find a better ship for the combat

Hehe

[tall crown]

nah thats good
I know its pretty weak, but it will work

[compact coyote]

Imagine that space station interiors are gigantic and procedural in this update

[spark acorn]

thatd be so sick

[tall crown]

that will be good

[late tusk]

AAAAA IM SO EXCITED

i wont beable to sleep

[manic spruce]

125k dps not enough for the update

[spark acorn]

imagine that you could buy plots in the big ole space station

[compact coyote]

Oooh

[spark acorn]

also it looks like the size of the internal branch update is 12.61GB

[tough nimbus]

How you even get that number?? Mine have 15k dps 😕

[unique flint]

would be good, on the game, the dataminer have finded, new exterior model of space station, and have loaded it, is so amazing

[manic spruce]

@tough nimbus well, I have perfect x class infra knife upgrades and then a perfect square sc layout on the interceptor ship

You just need to find a interceptor or fighter with a square supercharged layout

[tough nimbus]

And how much of sc layout is max? I got 3

[manic spruce]

@tough nimbus an s class ship with enough tech slots unlocked will unveil 4 supercharged slots

Every ship has a different layout, you need to find one with a square one

[tough nimbus]

👍

[manic spruce]

I can send you portal glyphs to a ship like that if you want, or maybe you’d rather look for yourself

They are really rare

[tough nimbus]

I do like to explore more, its so much fun for me

[manic spruce]

Also if you couldn’t tell I was joking earlier, you definitely don’t need 125k dps. That’s about as crazy as it gets

[tough nimbus]

( sry if my english is bad, Im actually from poland )

[manic spruce]

No prob 👌

[tough nimbus]

But idk it was possible

Its just soo much

[sick zinc]

Poland reminds me of Cyberpunk man

[tough nimbus]

One of my fav games

[tall crown]

Youre actually a good speaker, cant lie.

[sick zinc]

This happened .

[sullen hornet]

I thinks it's comin tomorrow mayhaps

[molten karma]

I really hope theres more to the update then the article tbh.

[snow stream]

there almost certainly is
to what extent, and what specifically, is up in the air
but certainly there will be a long list of changes, fixes, and smaller additions

[dense quartz]

A few months ago I heard about some rumors that they were upgrading their engine from a 2012 build to a 2022 version. And Steamdb does show a 2022 depot, so maybe performance improvements?

[late tusk]

:o

[novel summit]

How big is that compared to other updates?

[tropic mirage]

Guys I just spoke to a huge thing and respawned in a random planet with a new ship

[quaint mason]

That sounds like you met the atlas, but new ship? Uhh

[knotty mountain]

That's the whole game, they reupload the entire game with the new stuff added, so there's no way to tell how much of that is new data just by the internal branch

[compact coyote]

Brooooo I can’t wait for tomorrow

[spark acorn]

Probably just 12 hours left

[errant socket]

Hopefully

[novel summit]

Echoes sounds like such a good update honestly

[rustic haven]

if the leak is to be believed

Im sure it will be good, I just dont trust the leak

[tall sphinx]

https://insider-gaming.com/details-next-no-mans-sky-echoes-update/ If you look at the dude on the right-hand side of that image, his head is just one of the Sentinel pilots without any decoration. Also, if you look at his backpack thing off his left shoulder, that’s a new backpack that we haven’t seen before. I’m sure this is obvious, and someone else has probably already pointed it out, but I thought I should mention it just in case no one has.

[quaint mason]

Sentinel pilot?

[sick zinc]

Honestly I was looking for a robot kind of armor and such and this new race sounds so good

[tall sphinx]

I really hope with those massive pirate freighters that we will be able to get them to use

[late tusk]

^

[errant socket]

I do

There's art for it

[tall crown]

yeah

[compact coyote]

Holy shit. I think that one robot in the poster with the staff is an Autophage!

The heads are the same

[tall crown]

i also believe that

[dense quartz]

You know what that means? Once the update hits, we'll officially be able to say there's actual dead corpses in NMS.
Cause autophages are basically a dead version of the new race.

[tall crown]

true

[knotty mountain]

The new race is Korvax from the before times

Before the gek ruined them

[gaunt oracle]

What is an autophage

Huh

[knotty mountain]

Dead robit

[dense quartz]

I thought they were sentinels before they became sentinels

[sullen hornet]

I was interpreting the autophages as some sort of beings trapped in another dimension, and through the corruption are beginning to break out and manifest in the normal universe

Perhaps the creators of the sentinels?

[glass flare]

I don't think that's really proven in the lore yet. They may be primitive versions of the sentinels, or maybe they had a different philosophy and were pushed out by a different faction. I would think that the autophage in the art has a "mind" that either came from some stored consciousness, or has been stuck in the Abyss without a physical body

[drifting magnet]

SPACE WIZORDS!!!!!!

[molten karma]

I really do wonder if anything said in the article actually will be in the update its set up as if they talked to Sean though and it was written in a way like the article was released possibly a few days to a week before the actual update.

[drifting magnet]

I don't even care if it comes true. I just like saying it... SPOYCE WAZUUURDZ!!

Space Mage = "Spage"

Watch out for my space magic = "spagic"

[compact coyote]

Update day!!

[dense quartz]

Update in about 7-10 hours

It's 6am and I cant sleep.. Too excited.

[twilit gull]

its 11pm amd i cant sleep

[molten karma]

The anticipation is literally killing me tbh.

[dense quartz]

Well start killing the anticipation back!
See how it likes it.

[compact coyote]

Me too lol

[twilit gull]

what going to be miss up is if the update dont come tomorrow as hello games was not the one that said the date. Many as going to be much upset

[molten karma]

I'm worried about a delay as well however the internal being updated kind of eases that worry.

[dense quartz]

Echoes teaser said soon
2 articles said it's releasing today
Branch got updated
Sean.. Facebooked the emoji
Game is 50% off

All the signs are pointing for today. 👀

[knotty mountain]

Updates have never been delayed

Never

[dense quartz]

Honestly. I think Echoes has been delayed but we don't know it because they didn't announce it until after they dealt with whatever issues they ran into.
So they'd avoid another Frontiers situation again.

[knotty mountain]

Fair enough, I mean they said it was the 7 year anniversary update but the anniversary was on the 9th

[compact coyote]

I remember frontiers was a mixed bag

In terms of reviews

Also waypoint was controversial

[dense quartz]

Waypoint was a good update imo, but the backlash was absolutely insane

Frontiers was just kinda meh.

[ebon spoke]

Frontiers just came out at the wrong time

would have been received better if it didn't release when people were expecting a big anniversary update

[uncut harness]

People's expectations often ruin their own enjoyment

This last update was the most fun for me, the expedition had the kind of content I was looking for

It's gunna be hard to create a new save for this update
You want a save around 8 million light years away from the center so you're close to the robots

Robot parts so I could have my mech, sentinel, and quad dog, with my sentinel ship and weapons

[compact coyote]

I actually liked waypoint

[uncut harness]

I don't HG has ever really made a bad update. They're always adding new content and now they're connecting older stuff and refactoring

[compact coyote]

Yeah exactly

[spice gorge]

9 hours or so to go, in my reckoning.

[molten karma]

Usually update drops around 5am to 7am my time.

[quasi acorn]

is echoes gonna have the dripped out space stations

if it dosen't i do not care about the update

[drifting magnet]

Everything is rumor, but...

Station overrides should do something to space stations...something having to do with the Void Realm

And a new race of robots

New space combat with "trenches" similar to the Death Star trench in SW

And some sort of staff that will give us new abilities or something

If half of this is true, should be a sick update

[quasi acorn]

gawh dayum

[ebon spoke]

With the robots confirmed as a new race coming, Im pretty certain the new station design will be used for their systems

[drifting magnet]

That's what I'm thinking

[ocean inlet]

I'm still hellbent on the trench system, what do they mean?

[drifting magnet]

"Void Stations"

[ebon spoke]

because there was a pulse jump encounter in Singularity that matched the style of the new stations perfectly, and it was associated with them

[rough depot]

7AM in Guildford

soon.......................

[rotund perch]

look up star wars trench run

[drifting magnet]

I dunno, a trench run would involve real-time rendering. But improved rendering is apparently on the list of updated features.

[ocean inlet]

I'm seeing the sw trench run now and Bryan here has a point

How would that work

The outlaw freighters would have to be massive

[drifting magnet]

I guess I should go grab some Station Overrides while we're waiting. We might need them pretty soon. 😎

https://youtu.be/arj71kJfmZc?si=SRXwt2SmtfhkLVWY

[ionic crane]

The space combat in NMS is still kinda bad.

So I'm hoping it's not too focused on that.

[drifting magnet]

Indeed. Very much so.

[ionic crane]

Like, neither aim mode works as well as you'd hope.

[rough depot]

Still no homing missiles 7 years after launch

[drifting magnet]

Also, Bruce Willis finds out he's dead in the end.

Oh, sorry, wrong spoiler.

[rough depot]

Enemies only use 2 weapons against you

[ashen spoke]

According to the leaks can we fight the robots? Are they a new enemy type or are they a new variety of NPCs?

[ionic crane]

Darth Vader is Nada's father

Snape kills Polo in the sixth book.

It was all a dream.

[rough depot]

Sean Murray Twitter notifications: ON, sleep status: NOT HAPPENING, yup it’s no mans sky update eve

[drifting magnet]

We are actually Tyler Durden

[ionic crane]

We don't even know if it's dropping today. We're just assuming that leak was right.

It still could, but there's been no word from HG officially, right?

What time do the updates usually drop, actually?

[drifting magnet]

No, I'm a new player. Have they ever announced a specific release date before?

[ionic crane]

I dunno actually.

It might just be the tweet then the drop.

It's been a bit lol

[rough depot]

Internal branch updated twice, it’s dropping today

[ionic crane]

What time does it go out, you think?

[rough depot]

If not I’ll eat a rock

[ionic crane]

What if it's an audio QoL update

[next lagoon]

Internal updates again??

[ionic crane]

More like infernal updates.

[rough depot]

#nms-news-ticker

[ionic crane]

Does the vs. matter there

Historically we didn't have those after all.

[rough depot]

Been here for every single update after atlas rises and overtime they have gradually stopped hyping up updates to the point where all we get usually is the emoji tweet or a title before it drops

[ionic crane]

Probably fair.

[rough depot]

Sometimes the game updates before they even post patch notes and that’s always really fun

[ionic crane]

And sometimes they drop a trailer the day after or something

[rough depot]

When outlaws rolled out last year there was a few hours between the actual update dropping and the patch notes

[ionic crane]

I was here for that.

[rough depot]

Fun stuff

Did you play when Next or Origins hit?

The content drought between Atlas Rises and Next had people foaming at the mouth for a new update and Next did not disappoint lol

[molten karma]

We gonna be eating good soon

[quiet relic]

Pre release times were fun

[rough depot]

Maybe one day we will get an integrated modding support update 💀

[ionic crane]

👀

[quiet relic]

I’m glad I was there to see how this game grew up over the years

[rough depot]

Same

[snow stream]

I loved it then and I love it now

[rough depot]

Next dropped when I was still in high school and I honest to god didn’t sleep the night before it came about because I was so excited + someone got the update early and was posting leaked footage in here

I ended up falling asleep on the goddamn floor in front of my desk because it was like 10am and the update still wasn’t out

[ionic crane]

I only started in Expedition 2.

But now I'm 500+ hours in and made a new file just to walk off the planet.

If I had good internet, I'd stream doing it all over again.

Plus, my first run was before the Waypoint autosave

https://vxtwitter.com/tinsin/status/1539710964848787457

[molten karma]

I remember the guy leaking NEXT didn't he become a mod on the server?

[ionic crane]

I had to keep calling my ship to save. But I wouldn't launch obv.

[rough depot]

Yeah I think it was Architect

Not quite sure it was 5 years ago now

[drifting magnet]

Man, finding Station Overide missions at pirate stations is quite the easter egg hunt

[ionic crane]

Better hope there's a use finally :P

And that they didn't add an easy way to get em

[plain stag]

Not this time 👍

[molten karma]

When do you think Sean will X? I mean Tweet?

[drifting magnet]

Whew! Over a dozen Outlaw stations and still no Station Override missions.

[molten karma]

RNG is a hell of a thing.

[drifting magnet]

Well that RNG is sure biased towards frigat fuel and prismatic feathers because I've seen tons of those missions in the last 2 hours of warping

[next lagoon]

!guildford time

[drifting magnet]

I FINALLY found one!

Ugh, that was a long search.