nms-spoilers

[subtle gorge]

the game had issues with power and "proft" creep and they're finally doing shit about it

[knotty mountain]

and then we're going to add switch people who don't know any different in the mix

[lunar pond]

ito which value?

[humble nymph]

6 was an exploit

[high ferry]

perhaps they shouldn't have left it as is then for so long for folks to get used to.

[abstract roost]

But… stat hunters may have reasons to continue hunting \ discovering best upgrade combos. That’s something to think about

[latent heath]

Prob

[high ferry]

that's still on them. If it wasn't intended, why'd they wait years to change it?

[silent trench]

the balance of this game was always a timebomb HG kind of refused to touch until now, this is why

[subtle gorge]

probably because they were busy adding a bunch of other fan requests to the game?

[rancid ether]

it was so unintuitive, it certainly looked like an exploit to new players.
trying to explain it to new players usually confused them

[random drift]

I haven't fully upgraded my exosuit to the new max tech inventory size yet, so don't know how far it goes yet.

[latent heath]

Mate if game allows it its no exploit til the devs state it is

[lunar pond]

that's entirely a matter of perception

[ivory plover]

Wait there has to be more

[latent ingot]

Any stack size change for survival/perma?

[tulip ledge]

How is it going

[uncut harness]

Let people have different opinions geez dude

[humble nymph]

i been playin NMS since launch

[ivory plover]

The update was half the size of the game

[lunar pond]

Exactly

[ivory plover]

And just ui

[fast birch]

still the same

[ivory plover]

Sean reveal now

[knotty mountain]

just hit 111 cargo slots in exosuit still going

[random drift]

However, based on the empty spaces, it looks like the new exosuit goes up to 27. But I haven't tested that

[tulip ledge]

Give me a taste of what’s new

[subtle gorge]

same lol

a lot of us were

[uncut harness]

They removed general inventory

[fast birch]

that sounds unintentional ngl

[lunar pond]

Can somebody test the limits of exosuit tech size?

[rancid ether]

look who's talking dude.
i can also have an oopinion that you dont have to agree with

[subtle gorge]

more accurately they merged general and cargo

[ivory plover]

Woah we’re getting violent now

[uncut harness]

Does the portable refiner duplication thing still work

[tulip ledge]

Wtf

[uncut harness]

I'm not the one going around blaming people for an update and then telling them to stop playing for having an opinion

[random drift]

They converted general inventory into cargo

[tulip ledge]

What

What else

[random drift]

So more storage space overall

[rancid ether]

nobody is getting violent. why are you suggesting that

[subtle gorge]

they merged general and cago, they didn't really remove anything just streamlined it a bit tbqh

[ivory plover]

What does the waypoint mean

[wind panther]

I'm getting violent...grrrr 😉

[rancid ether]

i didn't blame anyone for an update.
what are you talking about

[ivory plover]

This update didn’t even have anything to du with ground

[lost jolt]

for ships its a bit weird, i literally just thought about it

[random drift]

Despite your violent efforts, the only thing you've manage to break... is his heart. 🥲

[uncut harness]

Has anyone tested the port refiner duplication

[muted moth]

folks, folks

[uncut harness]

You said it was my fault for minmaxing lol, as if no one else has ever done that and I should have known that 4.0 would do this

[lost jolt]

so i was confused why my starship had 69 cargo when the update came out, but it was 48 + 21 cargo

[latent heath]

I mean playing for the betterment of 4 years does that to people for a spur of the moment change

[lost jolt]

yet ships still show the third number

[humble nymph]

you add 3 upgrades attached to the jetpack they all have boarders showing they support that thing but you add a 4th and it says its overloaded.... so people instead add the 3 to it in the general tab then put 3 more in the tech tab an get 6 all supporting without overload.... thats an exploit an not an intentional function....

[subtle gorge]

can we all chill

[fast birch]

on ships it's terrible

[muted moth]

people are gonna have strong opinions, we're all in this for a chill community and a game we love, take a breath if you need to

[tulip ledge]

What more is there

[lost jolt]

so my ship was 110+99+21, but the 21 is part of the 110

when the third number seems like it shouldnt be there anymore

[jolly thicket]

it's not an exploit

[uncut harness]

@muted moth you know if the portable refiner duplication still works

[random drift]

They haven't really released detailed patch notes, so no one really knows. They just said "hundreds of small changes"

[fast birch]

if you want to have a ship to be okay on combat, you are forced to remove hyperdrive

[subtle gorge]

seems like a leftover

[random drift]

Mostly inventory changes and UI improvements it looks like

[knotty mountain]

all I can say is for those who have not yet played the update who are getting mad at what they're hearing, give the update some time hands on and after a while you will start to understand why they did the things they did, it might hurt for a moment but it's much more good than it is bad, there's just about to be a huge adjustment period for everyone and we will all love it, I'm sure of it

[latent heath]

”Its your fault for minmaxing. Its a you problem”

[lone solar]

am I the only one or does the new UI for the inventories look kinda.. unprofessional
icons too small, item numbers look janky

[rancid ether]

thats not blaming you for an update, im pointing out you made the decision to use your time that way.
thats not disputable

[lost jolt]

i only glanced at a few ships that landed, but they all had 0 in the third value

[dull badge]

Activated indium farms were nerfed

[subtle gorge]

yeeaAAAH

[rancid ether]

thats not balmign them for an update

[subtle gorge]

lets go

[uncut harness]

Sounds like blaming idk

[abstract roost]

To a degree lashing out now is understandable because of perceived nerfing and disappointment \ frustration based on that perception

[muted moth]

unknown, sorry, haven't had time to see if someoe tested itout and I'm not on steam

[wooden umbra]

Sounds like a reason to use X class upgrades with the tech change

[rancid ether]

alright, fuck it im out

[subtle gorge]

i understand why people are mad about this stuff i just don't really agree with it?

[tulip ledge]

When is it coming to Xbox

[abstract roost]

Emphasis on “to a degree”

[latent heath]

Ok <@&590975379678953522> we might need slowmode here its getting heated here

[uncut harness]

Does anyone know if the portable refiner duplication still works... I just found out about it today lol

[lost jolt]

i feel like its a bit too soon to get heavily invested in one side or another on the tech stuff since its so early we dont even have the official patch notes yet

[abstract roost]

Several hours Or a day or so

[uncut harness]

I might edit my tech back into the cargo slots

[dull badge]

Is just game, why you heff to be mad?

[random drift]

You've asked once a minute for like 3-4 consecutive minutes now

[subtle gorge]

a fundamental game reblanace is something i've wanted for a very very long time , but i understand peoples issues

[uncut harness]

@random drift would you be able to provide an answer by chance

[tulip ledge]

A day?

[tame grotto]

ty Crow. 5 secs for now

[latent heath]

Games as a medium people are emotionally invested 🤷‍♀️

[fast birch]

the main problem with this rebalance is that doesn't fix the balance issue, just makes your gaming experience more frustrating

[tame grotto]

friendly reminder to everyone, server rules and NMS channel rules still apply

[abstract roost]

Just a guess based on personal past experience

[tame grotto]

keep this chat civil

[fast birch]

having to changes modules all the time is not a good idea

[uncut harness]

Alright so what should I do to prepare my save while still in 3.99.1?

[random drift]

No idea

[latent heath]

Sorry for that rht

[tame grotto]

pass on constructive feedback and bug reports to NMS

[uncut harness]

What tech needs moving?

[tame grotto]

!HelloGames

[cloud jolt]

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[high ferry]

there are some people that have been pretty passionate supporters of NMS and Hello Games that are also disappointed by this update. I get the whole "people dislike change" phenomenon and understand that on a fundamental level if I don't like what a game becomes, I can quit playing it. Doesn't mean it still doesn't suck to be in that situation to begin with. Not sure what I'll do at this point. Perhaps wait and see if any tweaks get made to this, but at some point I'll have to make a decision. I guess enjoy the update? 👍

[abstract roost]

Yea folks try to keep cool heads 😛

[jolly thicket]

I don't like the idea of months of work just getting deleted due to "rebalancing"

[tame grotto]

increased to 10 secs now. everyone take a chill pill

[random drift]

It's fine as-is. Inventory sizes aren't shrinking so you won't lose anything AFAIK. If you have too much tech, it's just re-packaged and put into cargo slots

[uncut harness]

But I want my too much tech

[indigo notch]

As long as i dont lose anything its fine

[uncut harness]

This exactly, it doesn't feel balanced at all

[lost jolt]

put it in tech slots if you like the rolls and dont want it to revert to an installable item

[dull badge]

If you want to move any of your upgrades to another ship, put them in your general inventory

[fast birch]

tbh, I don't mind the idea of removing general inventory, it's the fact on ships you can't use more than 1 or 2 weapons

[rough depot]

every no man has its sky

[jolly thicket]

but a lot of my inventory tech stuff is quest-related - WHAT THE HELL HAPPENS TO THAT

[uncut harness]

That's a solid idea actually

[humble nymph]

empty your cargo tab into storage containers and you'll be fine after that

[lost jolt]

i think a few of my ships normal slots moved to tech too, my tech had 4 laser upgrades in it

[abstract roost]

It’s interesting to see all this reaction. Wonder how it will come out on medium to long run like a week and then a month from now

[muted moth]

changes you feel are wrong/bugs/unintentional, please report to hello games

[fast birch]

you are limited to have a fully updated hyperdrive or a fully updated weapon

[uncut harness]

The photonix core gets repackaged, I imagine story stuff will too

[muted moth]

!hg

[cloud jolt]

You can submit bug reports, suggestions or feedback to Hello Games here: https://hellogames.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[jolly thicket]

wtf is a photonix core

[tulip ledge]

I still don’t understand a thing

[subtle gorge]

neither do we, frankly

[tame grotto]

!HelloGames

[cloud jolt]

to view, enable Link Preview

**Hello Games Helpdesk**

📥 NMS Reports
• How to report a bug »
• Submit a bug or suggestion »
• List all your requests » (requires login)
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• Contact Hello Games »

[subtle gorge]

we're really just going off of what's right in front of us?

[abstract roost]

Regarding space ships, you just change ship and voila

[high ferry]

i think photonix core was a preorder exclusive tech upgrade

[mint hollow]

Alright where do I look for the details of the update

[random drift]

What do you expect when they drop a 7GB patch with only like two sentences of patchntoes

[subtle gorge]

it was yea

[high ferry]

for pulse engine right?

[fast birch]

sure, but does if feel necessary to change ships all the time?

[random drift]

You can't, no patch notes. Just like a two sentence synopsis. Closest is the in-game "recent changes" button thing

[dull badge]

Regular items are moved to cargo inventory, tech items are changed to an inventory item then moved to cargo

[random drift]

Nah. Ships work fine even without having 40 tech mods stacked up on them. You could argue they were designed to work without super-stacking tech.

[vague oriole]

What's the title

[fast birch]

the thing is, the limit is 30

[abstract roost]

Well I was doing that up till now, so there is biased view on that subject from my side

[rocky marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjEu1I8eAiA 😁 😂

[wind panther]

Here's all we have

[vague oriole]

Waypoint

[lost jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/345378190568587275/1027831034982699068/Untitled.png

[vague oriole]

Neat

Can't wait for the full list of qol

[uncut harness]

streamlined seems like a poor excuse imo

[dull badge]

Lol that ship is worth almost as much as my freighter

[random drift]

What ship has 30 tech slots?

[uncut harness]

All of them afaik

[lost jolt]

it was worth 1.8b with 38 tech slots, the value is bugged

[random drift]

Nope, I just tried upgrading an exotic and it's capped at 21 tech slots.

[subtle gorge]

i mean , having cargo was kind of redundant after a point?

[abstract roost]

WTH?

[uncut harness]

Not when you're general was full of tech

[lost jolt]

the upgrades will want to add to cargo until its maxed, click a tech slot to add to it

[dull badge]

It's not, you have to click on a locked tech slot

[rocky marsh]

https://youtu.be/tjEu1I8eAiA 😂

[lost jolt]

you will hit a wall at 30, since you cant reach the 31st slot, so you have to max normal cargo to go past 30

[latent ingot]

Ngl....kinda curious what I'm supposed to do with 60 MT slots when I don't even use 24 now

[indigo notch]

Anyway can anyone calmly tell ne what to expect when i download ths update

[subtle gorge]

that seems like a bug

[jolly thicket]

no

[indigo notch]

Yall scaring me

[lost jolt]

im 100% convinced it is, a lot of the stuff involving buying slots is iffy right now

[random drift]

scroll up, someone posted a screenshot of the patch notes

[lunar pond]

Is 30 tech slots the max?

[iron sable]

Nothing special, equpment changes

[latent heath]

Tbh most of us is scared atm especially veterans

[lost jolt]

as in the pic, 99 for ship tech

[wind panther]

I don't mind the tech change personally, but it does seem the exact opposite of what one of the articles said (not a Sean quote) of 'raising the level caps of ships and MTs'

[indigo notch]

Yeah well you guys make it seem like 400 hours are wasted

[fast birch]

I think it's broken

[knotty mountain]

can confirm max cap for exo suit is 30 tech slots and 120 cargo

[random drift]

Nothing special, he says, as moderators are forced to put slowmode on the channel 🍿

[lunar pond]

And tech redundancyh limit?

[uncut harness]

That's a lot more, right?

[fast birch]

what is the point of 120 cargo slots?

[lost jolt]

you cant place tech in normal slots anymore, thats the thing that got people steamed

[urban geode]

Oh wow

[iron sable]

Ok we got few more slots, ui change and what more? Difficultly customization

[urban geode]

Opening nms the first time in 4.0, completely different

[indigo notch]

Ah well i never liked doing that anyeay

[lost jolt]

my infra-knife accelerator has 24k damage still, so it still feels OP

[indigo notch]

Since that took up a loy of space

[random drift]

Based on empty spaces, it looks like exosuits tech expanded from 21 to 27 slots. Unless the UI adds dead space to the new inventory and that extra space cannot be filled

[hoary falcon]

Is it out on console yet?

[wind panther]

no

[indigo notch]

I can sell more stuff now 🙏🏿

[knotty mountain]

so if we had 48 in general and 48 in cargo before that's 96 so having 120 is 24 more slots technically

[random drift]

Yeah, and storage base at the base is MUCH larger to boot

[west bluff]

So what’s 4.0 about anyway?

[urban geode]

Wait what. You can no longer put tech modules in inventory sots???

[random drift]

Yeah

[fast birch]

no

[hoary falcon]

Seriously??

[fast birch]

they killed off general

[lunar pond]

How many modules for the same tect can be installed in inventory tech before the "too many modules" pops up?

[muted moth]

there is no general tab. there is tech and cargo. tech can only go in tech slots.

[fast birch]

3

[knotty mountain]

still same limit of 3 per type of tech

[cloud jolt]

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[lunar pond]

Welp this is it. I wont play anymore. Have fun

[jolly thicket]

and what about all my living ship upgrades, hmm?... did they finally let us buy expansion slots at space stations for those? THEY'RE MY MAIN SHIPS

[urban geode]

I can't send a pic. But all my tech modules which were in the general tab have become archived tech modules. Which I can't install cuz I don't have enough space

[indigo notch]

Oh my god you bunch of BABIES

[wind panther]

I love how the main page of nomanssky.com is two updates behind

[safe kiln]

what's happened?

[fast birch]

that's not constructive criticism

[next lagoon]

How's the new mode??

[uncut harness]

How long until the day one patch do we think?

[neon echo]

Yep… The grind for slots starts again. Exo slot was back to 30k to buy, though.

[wind panther]

Oh wait, like 5 updates behind

[fast birch]

less than 1 day

[latent heath]

Prob few days

[knotty mountain]

30 slots max in tech still 3 upgrades per type, the grey modules were things that were installed in general

[muted moth]

please be civil in here folks, rserver rules still apply, I know we all have strong feelings about the update one way or another but nonetheles.

[willow venture]

Eyo what happened

[indigo notch]

Leaving the game over one update is nor helping anyone

[urban geode]

Oxygen, Pure ferrite, Salvaged Data, Navigation Data have texture reworks

[humble nymph]

its what happens...

[indigo notch]

The patch notes arent even there yet

[jolly thicket]

it has a huge negative impact for a lot of people - that's the point

[lost jolt]

part of me is internally amused that i was more devastated losing the Wideshot Adapter way back than these tech changes

[muted moth]

some inventory reworking with a rather negative side effect

[random drift]

Uhhh... "huge negative impact" is a bit of a stretch.

[latent heath]

@tame grotto more timer prob warranted its on loop

[indigo notch]

Yes but its day 1 of the update

[safe kiln]

ah man

[jolly thicket]

losing more than half your tech is not a stretch

[uncut harness]

I think a lot of people would disagree

[wind panther]

This channel should be renamed #nms-waypoint-inventory

[safe kiln]

my mods are gonna be fucked lmao

[lunar pond]

I wont play a game that tries to keep me playing it by nerfing the heck out of my character making a ton of time invested in said character esentially useless. If anybody wants to do it, I'm fine with it, anybody can play whatever they what however they want. I just think I wont play this anymore

[fast birch]

one of the main features of the game, the inventory is being changed drastically

[knotty mountain]

definitely more particle physics upgrades to various things, looks beautiful

[rough depot]

destiny 2

[wind panther]

And cloud/mist effects

[willow venture]

I am confused

[vague oriole]

And/or warframe recently

[uncut harness]

Is it worth moving my best upgrades into tech slots before my game updates?

[indigo notch]

It has only be one day

[lost jolt]

on a different topic to inventory stuff, the ground in the space station on ultra, did the reflections on it seem grainy to anyone else? not sure if my PC or if it was dust causing DLSS to go nuts

[eternal radish]

Oh is 4.0 out?

[indigo notch]

one day

[wind panther]

Think that's a longterm issue

[muted moth]

4.0 is out on steam only, no patch notes available yet.

[vague oriole]

Will they break or something?

[eternal radish]

On Steam? I'm on Steam

[indigo notch]

All this bitching, sean will notice for sure

[vague oriole]

Yeah that existed since prisms

[neon echo]

No

[random drift]

Nope. If you have too much tech it just gets repackaged so you can move and redeploy it as needed.

[vague oriole]

Aka, when that effect was introduced

[uncut harness]

Due to the removal of general, anything in those slots get packaged into installable modules and moved to cargo

[humble nymph]

the limit to tech adds more of a challenge to what is a "survival" game

[indigo notch]

And then there will be another update

[muted moth]

no; but any tech in the general slots will be moved into tech (since general goes away) and the overflow goes into cargo as 'repackaged'

[abstract roost]

Did those upgrades stats which were installed in general changed drastically? I mean those which are now like grey in cargo

[indigo notch]

And then all the dramatic response of ONE day will seem silly

[fast birch]

most people are not into survival

[vague oriole]

Oh no more tech in general?

[wind panther]

Sean will notice. The questions are 1) if it was unexpected, 2) if it is enough to change his mind

[uncut harness]

Apparently

[fast birch]

there's no general

[elfin abyss]

why does it always take so long to release the trailer and patch notes

[vague oriole]

[uncut harness]

No general full stop unfortunately

[humble nymph]

they added relaxed mode for said people....

[indigo notch]

Thats where youre wrong

[abstract roost]

Well then yes

[neon echo]

Theres just tech and non-tech slots now.

[vague oriole]

Well the update is way earlier than usual

[little hemlock]

EPIC

[fast birch]

which still has the same limitations?!

[elfin abyss]

true that

[random drift]

NMS went through the hell of one of the most hated games on the internet for a brief time after launch. A few angry gamers over a patch probably won't bother them too much

[uncut harness]

If relaxed mode still has general I'm converting my save immediately

[neon echo]

Hoarding is defo back in the game, though 🙂 Storage containers have more space now also

[uncut harness]

Oof

[fast birch]

you can convert it already... it won't change anything

[indigo notch]

It will if they find the response negative

[vague oriole]

Sooo what are those complaints you were talking about

[eternal radish]

Can you now convert your save to another gamemode?

[subtle gorge]

Im gonna fly off the handle and say that trying to define No Man's Sky as one thing like an "exploration game" or a "survival game" or a "base building game" is kind of silly? It's the video game equivalent of an identity crisis and trying to define it as one of the many things it contains is futile

[uncut harness]

Yeah, apparently @eternal radish

[abstract roost]

Hey did they delete all those slot extension tokens?

[random drift]

Super hardcore players are pissed they can no longer use the general inventory to stack up like 50 tech mods at once.

[uncut harness]

I WONDER what Hualers cargo size will be now

[vague oriole]

Honestly

Better

[indigo notch]

Right

[elfin abyss]

I just want better water

[vague oriole]

Upgrade overhaul in disguise ig

Well i gtg now

I'll b eback

[urban geode]

I just updated windows and nms. Both have UI changes and this is too sudden

[uncut harness]

Let people be upset about losing half of their progress

[abstract roost]

Ah found it

[indigo notch]

No

[uncut harness]

It's an incredibly valid complaint

[lyric solstice]

Based

[next lagoon]

What is the general consensus so far

[jolly thicket]

more than half

[neon echo]

No, they changed icon only

[knotty mountain]

biggest issue people are having is that you can't have tech in cargo and you can still only have 3 per type in tech inventory which has a max of 30 slots so the overall amount of tech you can have installed at one time is much lower

[abstract roost]

At least multi tool

[uncut harness]

@random drift honestly I never used the survibailitt mods for my guys I just carried a ton of Sodium around at least 9999 of it on hand to just refill my thing. So all that extra space in tech is probably gonna be baren for me

[fast birch]

none, for what I see

[uncut harness]

Read the rules then reconsider what you're saying 😉

[next lagoon]

Good or bad??

[subtle gorge]

not enough information to have one

[uncut harness]

@abstract roost I could see the Multi Tool getting more slots as a Plus... I'd have to split Minning and Fighting between two of them

[elfin abyss]

akshully hello games can do no wrong!!1!

[humble nymph]

what game gategory does one find No Man's Sky under in the Steam Story? pretty sure it's under "Survival"

[indigo notch]

Dont ever wink at me again

[muted moth]

so you on all your savs max out jetpack because we all know how annoying it is to have no or just a couple upgrades on that. now that's borked. (a small example but you get the point)

[uncut harness]

Yes, they're great, but imo they made a mistake with this one

[fast birch]

that's my point, you are forced to change modules all the time

[indigo notch]

Well now im not gonna listen to you 😉

[subtle gorge]

that's not a clear-cut definition of what it is though. if it's strictly a survival game why does is it's survival mode a separate gamemode and not just called normal mode. To me it's an exploration game but that's defined by my playstyle and not the game itself

[elfin abyss]

I was being sarcastic

[abstract roost]

Ah great, still can expand slots

[uncut harness]

@muted moth I had. A feeling things would get borked, this why I started a new save and really all I did was max out inventory for exo suit space... I have no permanentstarship just a random A class hualer I'm using to carry a bunch of stuff

[daring cedar]

Is there a list of all spoilers so far? Braun to slide for chat

[uncut harness]

I was agreeing with you

[muted moth]

you would not be able to change modules to get that sprint/jetpack back, because max is 3. the other 3 you had, you can not apply them ever.

[urban geode]

It's more of a sandbox-exploration game with survival elements against, mainly, weather

[lunar pond]

This message should be pinned

[elfin abyss]

Lol what's going on

[fast birch]

not only that, ships have the same limitations as exosuit tech

[uncut harness]

Idk

[indigo notch]

But again i think all the reeeeing is gonna be for nothing once sean updates

[uncut harness]

@urban geode just carry infinite Sodium and you shall not need any survival mods

[knotty mountain]

nah I'm sure we'll hear it plenty more lol

[random drift]

The patch notes are what should be pinned. We all know we'll have like 200 people in the next few days asking what's changed

[indigo notch]

Because they always listen to player complaints

[uncut harness]

I'm fairly certain hg won't sit on their decision

[fast birch]

so if you want a combat ship, you must have only combat modules and barely any on mobility

[daring cedar]

So no tech in general now? Even on Normal?

[urban geode]

Yeah I do. I've never installed tech modules for weather

[elfin crown]

yes

[silent trench]

at best I see them just adding an option in the new difficulty settings for tech limit

[uncut harness]

No general full stop

[fast birch]

that's dead, no general

[daring cedar]

No general at all? Woah

[latent heath]

I mean they are getting pretty universal condemnation so dont think so

[subtle gorge]

they merged general and cargo

[uncut harness]

They added slots from general to Cargo

[indigo notch]

Yeah theyll regret this update

[uncut harness]

@fast birch honestly I just have 3 weapon... For combat, the photon with 3 things, the Cyclone with three things and the rockets with it's one thing, I have destroyed starships left and right with that combo

[random drift]

Nerfing power creep will always piss off the most hardcore players, but games still do it for a reason

[subtle gorge]

a couple guys in a discord isn't universal condemnation

[humble nymph]

is that not the reason there are different ship types? such as fighter, hauler, shuttle etc....

[daring cedar]

So all the slots are in cargo now and you can’t put tech there

I see

[uncut harness]

"a couple guys on discord" is most of the community lol

[indigo notch]

Even their loyal fans are now being the babies they once fought against

[subtle gorge]

You're projecting, frankly

[uncut harness]

Check reddit and twitter

@urban geode right I just keep an eye on it once it drops I juice up the Sodium and boom ready to go... Or just use a Minatory and oxygen lol

[indigo notch]

So again. First day of the update. Relaaaaaaaaaax

[hearty perch]

Reddit is also exdoing

[flint ruin]

In this case, hours I spend farming mods are useless with one patch.
Five of my ships and my exo is busted.
Feels like a slap in the face - with a chair. 😐

[fast birch]

sure, you can use the fact of specialization on ships, but they all share now the same tech slot limit?

[lyric solstice]

Reddit is always complaining about anything

[abstract roost]

Hey, did they fixed light as well

[indigo notch]

You may cry about it in a week

[uncut harness]

The nms subreddit is surprisingly chill

[elfin abyss]

You should see the forza horizon Reddit

[urban geode]

Okay so cool, drop pods are more viable now since they are maps. You don't need to deploy a signal scanner every time

[lyric solstice]

Not anymore...

[uncut harness]

@hearty perch meanwhile I'm over here just fine since the Portable refiner duplication still works

[uncut harness]

Yeah lol

[random drift]

Uhhh... they always had maps didn't they? Are you thinking an older patch?

[indigo notch]

We get it

[fast birch]

@humble nymph that also means that ships specialization is pointless, you are just going for the looks alone

[random drift]

Well, not always, but had maps at least before today's patch

[daring cedar]

Does the life support glitch still work?

[gloomy isle]

What's the cargo rocket for?

[knotty mountain]

OMG you guys any tech you have installed you can "Store" and it will turn into a packaged upgrade that you can put in cargo, you can trade them out at any time without breaking them!!!!!!!

[patent kindle]

And some relief comes knowing the anti tech overload mod still works. I still get my 6 spots

[elfin abyss]

What I've noticed with the nms reddit is that as soon as someone has a valid complaint they get downvoted.

[tame grotto]

Let's focus on discussing the update and whatever falls under NMS spoilers. Let's keep drama out of this channel. We get it, people are upset and Reddit is being very vocal about it.

[jolly thicket]

we shouldn't have HAD TO trade them out

[uncut harness]

@indigo notch I used it for the AI valves before they got nerfed and been maxed out on units for my new save... Next step make like 300 starship augmentation and 100 frogate modules lol

[muted moth]

rmeote access to trade terminals!

[urban geode]

They weren't maps. Do you know the usual maps which you press 'e' on to find a crash site for example? They're like that right now. Before they were items which were used in the signal booster to show you the location

[uncut harness]

Ooooh I like that

[humble nymph]

i enjoy debating opinions with people

[lyric solstice]

But many "new update sucks" "new inventory sucks" "hello games will regret this update >:]) posts are upvoted

[safe kiln]

i'd be fine with this change if I got all my upgrades as these packaged things

[wind panther]

Back on to spoilers. The next set of quicksilver rewards is more grass

[latent heath]

And thismeans what?

[uncut harness]

@muted moth interesting... So they added There own version of Amazon Prime lol...

GEK prime

[gloomy isle]

That's so cool!

[subtle gorge]

you do! you can package all of them

[random drift]

Oh, that's what you mean. Fair.

[lost jolt]

multi-tool slots are the scary ones on unit cost; i never had to buy slots for that so with 4.0 i might actually have to go find where they come from

[muted moth]

not a spoiler, we've known it since the first grass dropped 😛 😄

[knotty mountain]

lol I just sent you this

[elfin abyss]

I don't really see them much

[safe kiln]

no, i mean like, in my current inventory

[lyric solstice]

You have to filter by new because update just came out

[subtle gorge]

Honestly i wanna see how this plays out

[abstract roost]

Have to say I like how inventory works now, beside that “problem” with tech nerf

[daring cedar]

I love that new UI

[uncut harness]

@lost jolt so it cost Units or nanites to increase multiTool Slots

[wind panther]

Oh, so the next set after these posters was already in the files? I forget, with all the grass and posters available 😛

[knotty mountain]

this means you can keep all of your upgrades and uninstall and reinstall them whenever you need

[uncut harness]

Hg won't sit on it, they'll listen to the community

[daring cedar]

The icons on the side look very clean

[lost jolt]

units; with everything set to lowest difficulty their cost per slot capped at 198m each

[uncut harness]

Even putting the tech upgrades issue aside, I don't like the fact that general inventory got merged with cargo. I used cargo to hoard items / materials that I don't need all the time, but could use from time to time. And general inventory was my place for items I used often. Now it's all gonna be squashed together, which in my case is opposite of helping managing the inventory

[random drift]

Five stages of grief

[subtle gorge]

you are not 'the community'

[abstract roost]

IMHO it’s a step in right direction

[uncut harness]

Never said that

[elfin abyss]

alr I'll check it out

[hearty perch]

Same

[obsidian prairie]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/xxsuhh/_/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[glass flare]

HG put a lot of thought into it, I don't think they'll just go "oops the minmaxers don't like it, revert everything"

[subtle gorge]

your implication is that everyone agrees with you when looking at the discourse it's way more mixed?

[timber atlas]

hey guys have they added phlamps?

[humble nymph]

it could be viewed that way but i think having a ship thats more geared towards certain aspects of utility is what will happen with the limit to tech.

[safe kiln]

I agree with this

[abstract roost]

And duping still works

[jolly thicket]

get rid of the utm crap on the link

[obsidian prairie]

My disappointment is immeasurable.

[rough depot]

word is that they added garloids to the game

[safe kiln]

general is where all my regular use crap goes, like carbon, ferrite, sodium

[indigo notch]

Hg will listen to the complaints

[urban geode]

If there's one feature I'd add to nms, it would be that when you receive coords to a place, it's the exact coords. I hate the fact that you need to land and walk and search / search while in your spaceship. Like we have huge flying interstellar bases but can't put find specific coords on the map?

[uncut harness]

My implication is that a lot of people are very disappointed

[timber atlas]

guys have they added phlamps from bajookieland???

[indigo notch]

And find a middleground

[cloud jolt]

If you have constructive suggestions or bug reports for HG, we encourage you to submit them to their Zendesk (check pins for links or run !HelloGames in #bot-spam). Take unhelpful negativity that ruins other players' enjoyment of the game to another forum. Read #server-rules. Remain civil, do not spam or shitpost. Toxicity will not be tolerated in this server. Rule breakers will be muted and warned.

[safe kiln]

not gonna happen, that's a specifically implemented feature

[uncut harness]

@abstract roost thank got it really is a time Saver for some things when I just want to do us on explkrarion. I like using it for salvage data and starship augmentation.

[subtle gorge]

It'd honestly be nice to see them stick to their guns for once?

[worthy hound]

Any idea when 4.0 will hit switch?

[obsidian prairie]

My complaint was just a bunch of emojis followed by a rhetorical passive aggressive question pointed at Sean.

[indigo notch]

They always have

[uncut harness]

Listening to the community is a waaay better approach

[elfin abyss]

I hope next update is a water or proc gen update

[abstract roost]

And repair kits 😛

[uncut harness]

Water defo needs an overhaul

[muted moth]

we don't really know when each platform will get the update. sometime today though they should all have it

[timber atlas]

Guys did you hear they added smelfed clemps into the game??

[patent kindle]

Think of what halo infinite could be vs what it is if devs listened to their community like hg

[rough depot]

no way

[uncut harness]

So has anyone tested relaxed mode..
When they say cost are lowered does that mean both unit cost and amount of materials needed to build something. like are silos still a whole stack of Metal

[indigo notch]

And you guys keep forgetting. Its day 1. You may complain after a week but you know how the game isxwith patches

[timber atlas]

came in with the inventory change

[elfin abyss]

I somewhat agree although not all the time.

[jolly thicket]

proc gen update ... do you WANT to get killed when you visit your old bases now?

[subtle gorge]

woah

[tame grotto]

Let's focus on discussing the update and whatever falls under NMS spoilers. Let's keep drama out of this channel. We get it, people are upset and Reddit is being very vocal about it. Run !HelloGames in #bot-spam or check pins to use your time and energy productively by voicing your concerns and complaints where they're best seen by HG.

[abstract roost]

Still, did someone noticed if they actually improved light\brightness?

[high ferry]

well, listening to the community can be a double edged sword. Different people want different things out of their NMS experience

[uncut harness]

You're gonna need a command for that once update hits on all platforms

[timber atlas]

double edgdeing fuckg

[elfin abyss]

bro

[obsidian prairie]

Fair fair.

[uncut harness]

It's impossible to please everyone, so hg chooses to please as many as possible

@jolly thicket I built my main base around a minor settlement and and archive Depot... I should be fine... My other one is just the a teleporter a few feet from a Glyph portal.

[timber atlas]

sorry my inner bajookieland is coming out

[tame grotto]

We do have a helpful command in case you'd like to use that too: !Complaints

[outer cedar]

True, I like the changes I saw so far, and I saw many people on Reddit do, too.

[lyric solstice]

Im so glad relaxed mode exists

Normal too grindy and creative too boring so perfect middle ground

[indigo notch]

Yes. And so they will probably improve on things once they read the many complaints

[obsidian prairie]

Anyone find any overhauls that might make up for the hopefully temporary tech nerf.

[jolly thicket]

it can be a problem when you have hundreds of bases

[elfin abyss]

And I think they should stick to the main concept of the game instead of trying to please everyone. Like why play nms if you want a combat game.

[indigo notch]

And yall regret bitching on day one

[uncut harness]

I may actually delete my bases once I'm done duping what I need and start from scratch on my save in relaxed mode when I convert my regular to it

[subtle gorge]

i'll argue they stopped doing that ever since they shipped NEXT, too late to go back now

[patent kindle]

Did they do sumn to bases?

[timber atlas]

with all these changes i gotta say personally 1.0 was better they had phlamps then at least

[uncut harness]

If no one voiced their concerns to hg, nothing would get changed

[glass flare]

So I'm watching a Twitch stream of 4.0 and the creature options are Off / Defensive / Predators On, so it doesn't seem like you can increase the level of creature aggressiveness more than what already existed (assuming Predators On was the default prior to 4.0)

[silent trench]

What is the max on cargo slots now? At least 105 now i heard?

[random drift]

Storage is MUCH larger. I think double? And iridium farming was nerfed

[uncut harness]

120

[timber atlas]

i feel like im in ultrakill

[silent trench]

and then 50 slots per storage container dang

[jolly thicket]

iridium doesn't exist

[elfin abyss]

I don't mind if base builders and combat enjoyers get a lot of updates but I just wish they focused more on exploration :(

[timber atlas]

liek stardew

[indigo notch]

Theres a difference between complaining and IM NEVER PLAYING AGAIN

[uncut harness]

Agreed

[random drift]

Sorry, Indium, the cheap knockoff of iridium

[indigo notch]

THEY RUINED THE GANE #notmynomanssky

[rough depot]

still cant smoke weed in game :/

[timber atlas]

still cant OD in game :/

[lyric solstice]

Many people on reddit saying they stop playing because of inventory lol

[random drift]

GekNip every day

[obsidian prairie]

True, GekNip needs an animation and buff.

[indigo notch]

Well thats what i mean

[eternal radish]

Is there a reason why people are disappointed about 4.0?

[uncut harness]

Indium is a real element, plus iridesite is already in the game

[subtle gorge]

I don't either, i think the old game and the current one are very different beasts and i treat them as such.

[rough depot]

geknip blunts added (real)

[jolly thicket]

well technically you can - can make food with the plants

[uncut harness]

@indigo notch Honestly when I heard about this update I decide to not further invest into my saved games, rather dmade a new one where I just kinda did just enough like get my A class Capital ship and max out my Cargo for the exosuit and max out the units while stuff isn't nerfed... Got that out the way and I think this update won't even affect me in a negative way. Alot of people I think just feel all that time invested in some aspects for ruined... So in a sense it does ruin there play through now. Best bet is everyone just start a new save and re enjoy that day 1 feel

[elfin abyss]

I don't really care that much tbh

[abstract roost]

🤔 now, where do duped item go?

[uncut harness]

Just the removal of general

[outer cedar]

5 people is not many people....

[eternal radish]

Okay. And there is an alternative?

[jolly thicket]

no

[uncut harness]

Waiting for a patch I guess

[timber atlas]

dude its redditors maybe they will go outside!

[lyric solstice]

Haha i know but people there feel so important like the main character

[uncut harness]

@abstract roost into the extra storage things at my base lol... Hey did they increase the storage on those too or are they still 20 each

[random drift]

General inventory was converted into cargo space. It wasn't deleted

[elfin crown]

lmao

[uncut harness]

One person saying there's only 5 people doesn't make you correct

[eternal radish]

Where did all the stuff go that was in general?

[latent ingot]

50 now

[indigo notch]

You can mass report to hg and wait for a patch since hg will always listen abd many ppl are upset so yhey will find a way to please the upset people

[fast birch]

might as well wait for a new patch, that either reverts or gives another row on tech

[elfin abyss]

From my point of view if they're trying to please all audiences they should try to do it equally.

[abstract roost]

The one which lands?

[outer cedar]

Never claimed to be "correct" — whatever that's supposed to mean in this case

[obsidian prairie]

I'm not that big of a fan of how they did the custom mode, but I'm willing to give it a chance.

[uncut harness]

Tech gets repackaged in a storable module and put into cargo

@latent ingot ooooooh snap, I'ma be filling those baby's up now with Geknip

[indigo notch]

And then all the bashing will feel stupid

[uncut harness]

Why say something that isn't correct?

[eternal radish]

And stuff like ferrite dust?

[uncut harness]

Just transferred into cargo

All of your current general slots are added into your cargo inventory

[muted moth]

let's not argue about how many people think this or that aspect is good or bad, let's let eveyronehave their opinions please

[uncut harness]

So if you're maxed you have 96 cargo slots now

[eternal radish]

Doesn’t sound like a big deal to me personally 🤷🏻‍♀️ I can live with that. I always put ores into cargo anyways. I’m very organised.

[outer cedar]

You seem to imply I have some sort of agenda, while I'm just stating that a very small vocal minority on reddit is not many people. Just want to put things straight.

[safe kiln]

oh wait, so all my tech from tech and inv gets packaged up?

[daring cedar]

Is it possible to turn off the new auto save feature?

[latent ingot]

I guess one upside is I can scrap my bigger AI mines and free up a lot of edits

[obsidian prairie]

Which is 12 more slots, total, than before.

[wanton path]

people never liked balancing updates

[patent kindle]

Didn't someone say they had 110 and still upgrading earlier?

[uncut harness]

The problem is its not a small vocal minority

[elfin abyss]

We still haven't seen the patch notes

[wanton path]

they doesn't like someone (HG) comes and touch his super heroe

[uncut harness]

The cap is 120

[worn jolt]

you can dismiss freighters now

[lyric solstice]

How do you know

[elfin abyss]

I think it's good to balance

[uncut harness]

As of endurance

[worn jolt]

oh, i've never seen that

[indigo notch]

"We are a friendly community" this is aged like fine wine

[uncut harness]

I've become fairly good at reading the community

[lyric solstice]

🤓

[fast birch]

I like balancing updates, but this drastic change on inventory is a step back. It feels like they want to bring back the nms back to 1.0 inventory tetris

[uncut harness]

<@&590975379678953522> people losing their chill

[gloomy isle]

Apparently there's been visual improvements? Has anyone got screenshots

[random drift]

I've personally seen like 5 people clearly against, and 4 people saying they like it in the last hour or two. For what it's worth

[worn jolt]

the ui is a bit confusing but i think i can get used to it

[obsidian prairie]

I hope Sean is getting some laughs in before he logs onto Reddit.

[elfin abyss]

grah!

[crude pulsar]

What happened

[safe kiln]

listen, if all my tech mods are still there, packaged up to be reinstalled, i'm chill

[worn jolt]

why do people not like this update?

[lyric solstice]

"mama!"

[latent ingot]

Maybe the simpler UI for small screen like Switch?

[safe kiln]

a little peeved, but

[indigo notch]

New update no likey

[glass flare]

The endgame state was completely broken from a balance perspective. They had to do some harsh changes to change that

[mental socket]

HECKIE

[rough depot]

guys should I jsut get back on minecraft

[uncut harness]

Re familiarise yourself with the rules before coming here to cause trouble

[indigo notch]

ITS BEEN. DAY. 1.

[lyric solstice]

It was just a prank bro

[high ferry]

@safe kiln where you reinstalling them if there's no general tab and tech still only holds 3 modules per type?

[obsidian prairie]

Unless you want to move like a slug.

[uncut harness]

Kinda hard to justify it like that when freighters still have tab based inventory

[crude pulsar]

Eh, it doesnt seem that bad. Its just a bit buggy, which is normal for major updates

[patent kindle]

They took away your non cargo upgrades and forced it all to tech, so you're capped at 3 upgrades till they revert

[safe kiln]

reorganizing my tech tab, clearly

[fast birch]

what endgame? this is the thing that irks me. This game doesn't have a endgame of any sort. It's your choice what you want to do in the game.

[latent ingot]

Fair...I haven't seen that

[indigo notch]

DONT GIVE UP THE GAME IMMEDIATELY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHGFHDJDJGJHJJJJJ GOD YOU PEOPLE ARE SO IMPATIENT

[muted moth]

once again let's not argue about how many people think this or that.

[safe kiln]

(though i may have issues what with having used a tech slot expansion mod...)

[worn jolt]

ah

[uncut harness]

Honestly I don't see who you're arguing with anymore

[fast birch]

why you can make a change to the endgame in a game that doesn't has a specific end goal

[indigo notch]

All of yoy

[rough depot]

speed potion

[muted moth]

!updatedrama

[cloud jolt]

Let's focus on discussing the update. Let's keep drama out of this channel. We get it, people are upset and Reddit is being very vocal about it. Run !HelloGames in #bot-spam or check pins to use your time and energy productively by voicing your concerns and complaints where they're best seen by HG.

[obsidian prairie]

Half the tech upgrades is your version of "a bit buggy." I'd hate to imagine your concept of game breaking.

[glass flare]

This update is called Waypoint. It's a waypoint to somewhere, and if they want to add new game systems for experienced players to be challenged by, they had to do something like this

[elfin abyss]

Endgame is a lot of money and upgrades

[fast birch]

my current "endgame" is camp building

[indigo notch]

You all freak out IMMEDIATELY. Conplain to HG and wait til the game gets updated to your likung again. You know they will

[obsidian prairie]

Just wait for the tech upgrade microtransactions to roll out.

[safe kiln]

bruh

[abstract roost]

Ah I see everything goes to freighter cargo

[indigo notch]

Microtransactions??

[safe kiln]

sean's too pure for something so vile as microtransactions

[latent ingot]

I'm just moving all saves to a safe spot until XBox drops since I won't have hazard protections when it updates

[crude pulsar]

It refunded your upgrades did it not?

[uncut harness]

I see one person who mentioned the lack of general between your last two messages

[next lagoon]

Why are people in such a uproar??

[mental socket]

idk?

[uncut harness]

and made half of them unusable in the process

[trim willow]

So what other updates have happened aside from what everyone is crying about?

[eternal radish]

They said recently they will keep microtransactions out of the game

[proper stone]

Sooooo just woke up. Did they make tech slots to only 30?

[subtle gorge]

they reworked the inventory system, cargo and general were merged and tech was given it's own section

[indigo notch]

Becsuse people dont like change and cant wait for a couple of fucking days to get updated

[fast birch]

UI received a nice update, I like the new discoveries & catalogue design

[uncut harness]

a lot of people dont like the stripping back of upgrades

[rancid ether]

So are old Permadeath saves converted or something?
I havent loaded mine yet

[next lagoon]

Omg seriously??

[uncut harness]

let people have their opinions, youre the only one getting overly worked up over this

[gloomy isle]

On the plus side it's an easy thing to change if a huge proportion of the community hates the tech situation. Just raise the cap to 6

[lost jolt]

my survival save inherited survival difficulty settings, so yours will likely inherit permadeath settings

[indigo notch]

No im not

[subtle gorge]

my issue is less with that and more with how this change disrupts a dynamic the game had between inventory and tech

[mental socket]

That's cool. There must be a gameplay balance reason to the tech only stacking up to 3 now

[safe kiln]

and probably increase tech inv size a bit

[uncut harness]

plus dharhan will have a ton of work to do remaking the layout commands

[subtle gorge]

however, to be fair, the addition of tech slots already disrupted that quite a bit

[obsidian prairie]

Nope, because I reverted my version and maintained a backup. I'm not re-rolling my x and ? class mods simply because they goofed on the general/cargo merger.

[uncut harness]

the repackaged tech keeps its original stats

[safe kiln]

generally, people are more okay with "additions" than "subtractions"

[subtle gorge]

It's weird, I'm wondering what it means for the overall game.

[obsidian prairie]

60 for multitools

[crude pulsar]

It should keep the same seed values it had before it got refunded

[indigo notch]

You guys are scaring ppl away by your excessive complaining and again. Not realizing they will change it seeing how a lot of fans dont like it

[safe kiln]

hold on what

[proper stone]

And 30 for exosuit and ships?

[indigo notch]

See this as a minor setback

[high ferry]

folks' disappointment is valid. You flat out called some people babies here for expressing the desire to quit playing over the changes, which is totally up to them and perfectly understandable if it leaves the game unenjoyable for them.

[safe kiln]

multitools get 60 slots?

[subtle gorge]

my personal argument is that buildcrafting being dependant on inventory space was an interesting dynamic but it was never properly utilized and tech slots completely destroyed it

[crude pulsar]

110 + 90 for starships yeah

[uncut harness]

wait really???

[obsidian prairie]

I'm not chancing it when I know they'll fix the issue in the next week or so.

[indigo notch]

You are a baby if you stop playing AFTER ONE DAY

[rancid ether]

new players arent going to notice a difference. thats teh frustrating part. veteran players are just going to scare off the new players

[lost jolt]

yes 60, did it earlier

[proper stone]

W8 if its 90 why ppl whine

[indigo notch]

Exactly!

[uncut harness]

ive seen one or two people say that, about an hour ago at this point

[mellow robin]

I do wish existing saves had gotten more text slots in the exchange

[safe kiln]

just

[obsidian prairie]

As far as I can tell.

[crude pulsar]

Bc you used to be able to have 6 upgrade modules per technology, now you are capped at 3

[uncut harness]

the amount of tech you can have has been halved

[indigo notch]

It will be more seeing how you guys keep crying abour how the game is ruined

[safe kiln]

back up your save

[iron coral]

is it possible to add tecnology slots at this time?

[mental socket]

We'll understand once patch notes are out

[elfin abyss]

And you're the one complaining about people complaining all the time lmao

[crude pulsar]

This is just a good idea all around

[high ferry]

@indigo notch cheers. Even if mods aren't, I'm done with your namecalling

[lost jolt]

the interesting part to me is that they chose 99 for ship tech slots and not 90 or 100

[subtle gorge]

I think it's neat personally, but yeah

[rancid ether]

shouldnt be an issue at all

[random drift]

It does look like tech slot max was increased on exosuits and ships, yes.

[uncut harness]

well, I love the increase in MT slots

[indigo notch]

And im donevwith the bitching

[crude pulsar]

That is a bit strange yeah

[proper stone]

Oh cap of 3 remains, i see
I think they just forgot about it and will fix it tomorrow

[safe kiln]

11x9 vs 10x10

[obsidian prairie]

The cap has increased, but the individual upgrade cap went from 6 to 3.

[muted moth]

!Complaints

[cloud jolt]

If you have constructive suggestions or bug reports for HG, we encourage you to submit them to their Zendesk (check pins for links or run !HelloGames in #bot-spam). Take unhelpful negativity that ruins other players' enjoyment of the game to another forum. Read #server-rules. Remain civil, do not spam or shitpost. Toxicity will not be tolerated in this server. Rule breakers will be muted and warned.

[uncut harness]

youre arguing with invisible complainers, just chill

[lost jolt]

the 99 are a 10x10 with an empty slot

[obsidian prairie]

😆

[proper stone]

Especially if u flood the zendesk with complaints about the cap

[uncut harness]

definitely an odd decision

[indigo notch]

Invisible? Mate have you seen the cimmunity the past few

[random drift]

What do you mean by upgrade cap? How much it can be increased compared to starting size?

[abstract roost]

Uff, there is a bug I need to report

[crude pulsar]

Just dont crash it

[uncut harness]

Ok new topic, anyone else thinks the new icons for items / modules look off? No name plates, big ass font for amount / charge level

[lost jolt]

i somewhat wonder if it was like an array thing where its 100, but 0-99 instead of 1-100

[safe kiln]

an individual upgrade type has a max of 3 before being overloaded

[subtle gorge]

I'm wondering how they're going to offset the tech cap though

[rancid ether]

just block or ignore.
pretty normal for update days

[obsidian prairie]

The total is 30, but individual mods are hard capped at 3.

[uncut harness]

there is a limit to the amount of upgrade modules you can have, that has been halved

[safe kiln]

so you can't have more than 3 procgen jetpack upgrades

[indigo notch]

Itvhas never been this bad

[crude pulsar]

I think this is why its 99

[obsidian prairie]

For now.

[safe kiln]

for now.

[uncut harness]

its been worse

[obsidian prairie]

You're currently the person complaining the most.

[rancid ether]

its pretty normal iin my experience.

[indigo notch]

Well ive never seen it this bad anyway.

[safe kiln]

lol, "never been this bad" and the game is no man's sky

[uncut harness]

Im fairly confident hg will compromise with the upcoming patches

[muted moth]

soooo bringin it back to the update instead of the meta-chatter about it. this update 4.0, anyone seen it? 😛

[subtle gorge]

it's been way worse

[crude pulsar]

PS update just released

[rancid ether]

anyways, Permadeath saves changing after load, anyone know?

[indigo notch]

Sure

[uncut harness]

ive heard about it

[gloomy isle]

I just wanna see the cargo rocket lol

[muted moth]

ps4 out now!

[subtle gorge]

sorry if i've flared up a bit at ya btw

[wind panther]

PS4 v4.2 is out?!

[uncut harness]

Yup

Unfortunately just waiting to play it at this point

[crude pulsar]

Wait, why did it release as 4.2 on the PS?

[indigo notch]

Ok im gonna have a shower, dont burn hg down while im gone :p

[gloomy isle]

I'll wait till patch notes

[uncut harness]

dont worry, im all down for discussions

[weak mural]

Xbox Series S update has arrived

[muted moth]

because ps couldn'thave 3.99.1

[pastel magnet]

Ship tech slots appear to max out at 30, with living ships still being... whatever their limit was, I forget. So as far as multi-purpose ships go, living ships reign supreme now. Everyone else must specialize.

[wind panther]

So is PS going to forever be ahead of main branch version?

[muted moth]

living ships had 48 after last update

[uncut harness]

gunter says its only out on steam

[tame grotto]

you got it?

[indigo notch]

Switch update?

[weak mural]

downloading right now

[eternal radish]

It’s that I just got out of bed but I’m really looking forward to playing the update.

[vague badge]

LESSSSGOOOOOO the queue just began

[uncut harness]

good point, havent seen anyone mention switch. Is it out and playable?

[subtle gorge]

what i personally hope this means is that we'll get better buildcrafting opprotunities outside of just slamming as much tech into something as possible? Like adding new mechanics to that whole system

[crude pulsar]

No idea

[pastel magnet]

Thanks. but anyway, they still have room for all tech. Other ships have to make sacrifices. More tech = less upgrades.

[rough depot]

its like exo mech all over again

[safe kiln]

what happened in exo mech

[uncut harness]

it definitely opens up some new opportunities, most people are just annoyed that it feels like its been left for the moment

[tame grotto]

can you please DM me or post here, the tiny number that shows in the bottom right corner of your title screen where you can select Single & Multiplayer? 🙏

[subtle gorge]

Additionally i think a loadout system would be awesome in this context

[gloomy isle]

I've heard very good things about the port tbh

[uncut harness]

nms is updating on xbox

[weak mural]

Sure, it'll be another 20-30 mins to download though

[proper stone]

Sooo, any other noticed changes besides inventory?

[elfin abyss]

patch patch

[uncut harness]

pretty sure its out

[pastel magnet]

Ironically, my hauler is the only ship that isn't suffering right now. I put all its tech in tech slots so I could do maximum hauling. 😛

[uncut harness]

@tame grotto seems like mine will be finished updating soon-ish, ill send you the number when its done

what number should it display if its on 4.0?

[jovial violet]

i think we all need to give it a try. i think it could be good for diversifying how people play, rather than everyone's character becoming the same with only minor variations in weapon choices

[random drift]

Wait, you were one of the most vocal opponents of the change in this channel and you haven't even downloaded the patch yet?

[pastel magnet]

And for those of you trying to rebuild your tech quickly, refiner duping still works

[muted moth]

for people keeping track: 4.0 now on xbox, ps4/5, steam (what about switch though?)

[uncut harness]

I cant, im on xbox

[subtle gorge]

Yeah again i'm not a fan of how NMS's old buildcrafting ecosystem worked

[obsidian prairie]

4.02*

[muted moth]

the new update. let's put it that way 🙂

[high ferry]

friend is saying they have the switch version right now and it's got the old UI, which i found odd

[abstract roost]

🤔 seems like old cargo bulkheads are bugged

!hg

[muted moth]

switch digital edition was Outlaws, so the old ui

[subtle gorge]

the switch version shipped with outlaws, the day one patch will be Waypoint probably

[crude pulsar]

?

[obsidian prairie]

In hwat way?

[abstract roost]

I used 5 to extend cargo slots and no new slots

[subtle gorge]

I will say i like the new tech damage system a LOT

[crude pulsar]

Huh

[obsidian prairie]

Estraño.

[pastel magnet]

You need to manually select the new slots now. I had that problem with a lot of slots in all inventories.

[tame grotto]

sweet! it should be a tiny number that's likely 94473 (i wanna confirm it matches across all platforms)

[muted moth]

how many slots does your freighter cargo have?

[obsidian prairie]

That does corroborate with what I've seen so far

[abstract roost]

Aah

[uncut harness]

Awesome, xbox is saying 25 minutes at the moment

[crude pulsar]

Tetris time

[wanton path]

love the new inventory tbh, I'm > 1000h in and still get mad at inventory management

[abstract roost]

Thnx

[uncut harness]

Has anyone with the updated tested out relax mode, what am in store for when my Xbox updates when I switch my normal save

[obsidian prairie]

Spoiler alert* Very soon I will have image rights.

[subtle gorge]

same, the inventory UI is neat as heck

[uncut harness]

honestly most of the update is great, just one thing that im sure theyll change with the first or second patch

[pastel magnet]

Not yet, I'm still salvaging my main save lol

[subtle gorge]

I mean even if they don't I'm hoping they just have a good reason why

[pastel magnet]

Oh also, multi-tools now max out at 30 slots. So at least something got buffed instead of nerfed.

[hoary falcon]

Smbd got a YT video with everything new in images?

[uncut harness]

im fairly certain theyll rebalance it, whether they increase module stats or change the tech overload cap

[wanton path]

you sure the player inventory didn't get buffed too?

[abstract roost]

So wait, how many slots in tech on freighter?

[uncut harness]

@pastel magnet yay no more splitting fighting and mining between two MT

[random drift]

Pretty sure it was the obvious exploit of people getting around the 3-upgrade-cap by placing half in the main inventory

[subtle gorge]

I wanna see the game's buildcrafting become less stale because that's why i stopped caring about it? And i think better limitations are a step in the right direction. but now we need better payoffs

[uncut harness]

yep, 30 tech and 120 cargo

[obsidian prairie]

Has anyone checked on their drop pod coordinates?

[wanton path]

120 cargo doesn't sound as nerf to me

[obsidian prairie]

There's a new "exosuit upgrade cartographic data."

[uncut harness]

yeah, its 24 more slots

@obsidian prairie what's that

[high ferry]

i get weird screeching audio glitches when trying to upgrade my slots at a station or drop pod. Like ear piercing stuff

[pastel magnet]

I mean, you should probably still do that since different multi-tools have different stat buffs.

[random drift]

Basically you don't need a signal booster to find drop pods anymore

They work like normal maps from the cartographer

[pastel magnet]

👀

[uncut harness]

@pastel magnet naw I want to find the one and only giga Chad mt

[obsidian prairie]

Apparently it's a map that can be purchased at the cartographer that acts like a stand alone drop pid coordinate.

[rancid ether]

once you upgrade that slot, it should stop.
its when the inventory "size" is going to a new row

[subtle gorge]

that's very fair

[abstract roost]

Look at that, you can rename your save

[crude pulsar]

Finally

Now I will cease being confused

[safe kiln]

the 3 upgrade cap per inventory thing never really seemed like an exploit

[next lagoon]

Patch notes...when

[uncut harness]

just had an idea, people could sell perfectly rolled x class modules now you can package them

[pastel magnet]

I get the sense this update may have launched early by mistake, considering the lack of patch notes and trailer.

[subtle gorge]

to me it's fairly evident that it was?

[random drift]

I mean, the game stopped letting tech work if there were more than 3 progens in the tech slots. Seems pretty obvious they intended it to be limited to three. It's just that the exploit was widespread and everyone used it

[polar ember]

Wait is update out already lol

[uncut harness]

@random drift thank god for you know how many signal boosters I left scattered across one planet cus I forgot them

[wanton path]

every update was this way

[tame grotto]

yes, on most platforms. see latest in #nms-news-ticker for now. no patch notes yet though

[uncut harness]

nah, the date was today

[subtle gorge]

that's kinda good?

[uncut harness]

the trailer and patch notes always come a little late

[uncut harness]

yeah, people often dont minmax because it takes too much time, now we can share I feel thats better

[obsidian prairie]

Can't wait for the cryptic Twitter emojis for the hotfix.

[pastel magnet]

Also, I've now maxed out an exotic and a fighter. Both have 30 tech slots. Exotic gets 110 cargo, fighter only gets 100. Curious.

[latent heath]

I just hope they provide reasons

[wet root]

There was a ping in here...

[eternal radish]

That’s nice! I always felt bad having to destroy an upgrade module because I had tech overload.

[vague badge]

Hey this update is pretty neat

[wet root]

Hmmmst.

[uncut harness]

yeah, people were getting a little uncivil but its calmed down now

[obsidian prairie]

Anyone found a workaround for adding upgrades to cargo, yet?

[subtle gorge]

Honestly i'm wondering if there's some other way to minmax now or again if they have ideas for better buildcrafting payoffs

[latent heath]

Prob me pinging moderators few hours ago

[wet root]

Ah... Of course, lore 🙂 Not everyone agrees with each other on that front.

[obsidian prairie]

Or anything that might compensate for the nerf(accidental or not.)

[uncut harness]

and me lol

[gloomy isle]

What's survival like?

[random drift]

Besides more storage space overall?

[uncut harness]

so, are all gamemodes able to interact now we have the sliders?

[random drift]

Since doubling up on max upgrades was an exploit to begin with, I don't think they'll compensate for not being able to use the exploit anymore

[uncut harness]

eg survival, perma and normal?

it wasnt an exploit, it was a feature

[abstract roost]

So new max hyper jumps for freighter is around 1k less?

[obsidian prairie]

That's not good enough. I was managing my inventory perfectly fine as it was.

[uncut harness]

3 modules per inventory was intended

[muted moth]

a lot less.

[obsidian prairie]

Is there an announcement to confirm this???

[random drift]

Why did the tech tab limit you to 3 progens of each type, instead of just six no matter the location?

[muted moth]

no patch notes out yet

[abstract roost]

Well had 6.39 or so at moment is 4.8k

[uncut harness]

@muted moth thank god I have an S class

[uncut harness]

if you were supposed to only be able to have three, they would have changed it years ago rather than leave it in for years

[wanton path]

probably there is tech upgrades much better than Outlaws ones, so maybe not so nerf as it sounds

[obsidian prairie]

I still don't know how this is gonna effect core warping tech damage. Also, fall damage and combat can now break your tech. "QOL" frfr

[subtle gorge]

it might have been an issue with how inventory worked

[uncut harness]

also, they wouldnt have let you use general slots for tech

[muted moth]

patch out on all platforms now except switch (how does nintendo coordinate these again?)

[uncut harness]

I am certain that 3 per inventory was a feature

[subtle gorge]

but also , why would it not be mentioned in the game whatsoever especially with the game's recent push for accessibility?

[uncut harness]

wait, patch?

[random drift]

The fact they removed it seems to suggest otherwise though

[glacial rapids]

Taking damage can break tech now???

[wanton path]

yep

[rancid ether]

The inventories have historically been separate from each other so HG probably didn't have it set up in such a way that they could regulate similar technologies being installed in separate tabs.
Definitely looked like an exploit to me

[wind panther]

There aren't

[copper portal]

i've been waiting a year to come back to NMS and the water still is unchanged

[subtle gorge]

^^^^^^^^

[tulip ledge]

So do they have the notes out yet

[wanton path]

you already know?

[wind panther]

I just checked the procedural technology table

[uncut harness]

10 minutes until updated

[muted moth]

4.0, the update

[obsidian prairie]

Goozfraabah.

[wind panther]

The uppatch

[obsidian prairie]

My condolences to the people exploring the update at the expense of their frustrations.

[uncut harness]

ahh ok

[abstract roost]

Seems exosuit upgrade tokens changed into drop pod maps or did I get something wrong here?

[wanton path]

could you share a screenshot of that table please? i'm curious

[obsidian prairie]

4.02*

[uncut harness]

thats a ps5/4 glitch (dont remember which)

[crude pulsar]

4

[obsidian prairie]

... qol improvements...

[nocturne pike]

Is Survival Mode, or Survival Difficulty: Challenging, intended to be significantly easier than previously? I started a new save. I have nothing. "Critical Exposure to the Elements: 25 minutes"

[uncut harness]

@muted moth it's a Gek one too so I think I'll rename it the Gekamole

[muted moth]

let's call it 4.0 since that's the intended numbering scheme and in use everywhere else (and how sean refers to it in the interviews too)

[obsidian prairie]

I be on PS.

[abstract roost]

What ya mean?

[uncut harness]

yeah, ps didnt like one of the previous patch numbers

[obsidian prairie]

Nope. Not until my PS update reflects it.

[wanton path]

wait for the storms

[obsidian prairie]

😆

[rancid ether]

try switching to a different difficulty and see if it works backwards maybe, then report the bug if so

[uncut harness]

ps is buggy in that way for some reason

the numbers went out of sync when hg added another . into one of the patch numbers

[obsidian prairie]

Probably a conspiracy.

[wind panther]

Hopefully it works itself out and gets back in sync eventually

[uncut harness]

yeah, im sure it will

[abstract roost]

Seems like nipnip price dropped a bit too but not for too much

[uncut harness]

thatll be the first thing on the patch notes

[next lagoon]

Everyone so uptight about the upgrades people haven't even bothered checking the new modes

[random drift]

They nerfed some of the largest cash-cow farming methods

[uncut harness]

lots of people have

[obsidian prairie]

Whoa whoa whoa. Which ones?

[uncut harness]

orange name 🥳

[glacial rapids]

Activated indium got gutted

[eternal radish]

How?

[uncut harness]

honestly I like the difficulty changes

[glacial rapids]

Sell price is much, much lower now

[jolly thicket]

it was useless as a material anyway

[random drift]

Active Indium being the largest one took a massive hit. I'm sure they probably also hit other major products so farmers wouldn't simply swap to the 2nd most profitable one and only take a tiny hit

[vague badge]

Good lol

[abstract roost]

Significant lower price

[uncut harness]

@glacial rapids just means I need to grow the farm and sell even more

[vague badge]

Piracy is more fun to make units anyway

[muted moth]

anyone can check price for chlorine? we'll need to update some faqs if that's changed too

[uncut harness]

Have we checked the comparative prices?

[glacial rapids]

It's pretty nice for storing chromatic metal in bulk

[eternal radish]

Welp. My main income was stasis devices anyways 🙃

[obsidian prairie]

Same.

[subtle gorge]

based tbh (apologies for saying such an accursed word)

[worthy hound]

Ideally if the game's going to be fun, we should be actually playing the game to make cash. Activated indium trivialised everything and sucked the fun out of it

[subtle gorge]

Activated Indium made it so the best way to make money was to not play the game

[worthy hound]

Exactly. Not a good thing

[uncut harness]

@vague badge good thing I dupe AI valves before the Nerf and still have 30 stacks left. I maxed out units so just need to sell every once in a while

If the price of everything has been reduced (which would be nice to check), its probably to make the unit cap less of an issue

[rancid ether]

worth only 12m now btw

[nocturne pike]

Ah, looks like I am wrong about the Hazard Protection, thankfully. Looks like there is an early game "Grace Period" where Hazard protection is significantly buffed.

[uncut harness]

30 seconds

@uncut harness I wonder if you canore in one stack and thus if you sell by the stack it techniqually didn't go down@rancid ether not bad given I have 30 stacks

[gaunt beacon]

I have to admit, I hate how they did the storage but overall I think it looks great!

[uncut harness]

alright, game upated

[pastel magnet]

Solar Ship maxes out at 110 storage.

[glacial rapids]

Did selling sentinel upgrades for nanites get nerfed? Don't have the update but I saw some people on the subreddit talking about it

[uncut harness]

careful with memes

[high ferry]

except it's not like AI farms built themselves and if folks enjoy going that route, what effect if any does that have on anyone else's ability to enjoy the game?

[iron sable]

Strange I have all my tech OK

[crude pulsar]

All ships do

[uncut harness]

seems like the prices of a lot of things have been nerfed, I wouldnt be surprised

[uncut harness]

did you have anything in general slots?

[crude pulsar]

You still have your tech in general?

[pastel magnet]

Fighter maxed at 100 for me. But I'll double-check in a few minutes, might've been player error on my part.

[next lagoon]

Whenever you use your multi tool to get ferrite dust did it double the yield

[uncut harness]

even haulers?

[cloud jolt]

@obsidian prairie No gifs in this channel please

[eternal radish]

Why did the value decrease?

[uncut harness]

@high ferry it really is alot of work to build those farms. And it's playing the game

[crude pulsar]

General inv yes

[worthy hound]

Anyone figured out max tech slots on exosuit and starship yet?

[glacial rapids]

If they did that it genuinely sucks, mold refining is pure tedium

[uncut harness]

@tame grotto the number is 94399

[uncut harness]

you mean cargo?

[pastel magnet]

30 for starship. Exosuit to be determined, unless someone else has done it.

[latent heath]

I mean can u blame us for checking our main mode and being just slightly offended?

[uncut harness]

30 tech, 120 cargo for exo

[crude pulsar]

Not cargo
General tab
Not sure about cargo

[rancid ether]

Probably to balance duping with the rest of the game. Its not like players were intentionally grinding ships to collect those

[mellow robin]

Wow AI farming is dead I guess? 😮

[icy citrus]

Anyone else not a fan of having to scroll in your inventory? I like having one page I can see it all

[uncut harness]

So basically HG created inflation in game lol lowered value of the units return on items but kept items the same price lol

[uncut harness]

considering there is no general tab anymore, Im not sure I follow

[latent heath]

I rather have scroll tbh

[icy citrus]

Ugh

[pastel magnet]

Well that's annoying. So much for my uber setup that used almost all 48 normal slots. 🤣 Oh well, I can just sacrifice some of my enviromental protections and rely on the X-class ones. Not the end of the world.

[crude pulsar]

Somebody will probably make a mod for it

[glacial rapids]

We're now on the receiving end of cobalt dumping

[crude pulsar]

Yup

[latent heath]

Not the end of the world but it do be irritating

[uncut harness]

just remember you can only have 3 instead of 6 modules now

[crude pulsar]

What was the price decrease in smuggled goods?

[glacial rapids]

Smuggled goods got decreased too? Ouch

[worthy hound]

Are trade goods still the same price?

[pastel magnet]

I only had 3 to begin with, so I ain't losing anything. Only my life support and jetpack were ever doubled up.

[icy citrus]

Doesn't help my Xbox

[uncut harness]

anyone able to confirm if hauler inventory has been changed by the update?

[random drift]

Credit-farming methods appear nerfed across the board, not just smuggling

[eternal radish]

Sean for starship rights 🙌

[crude pulsar]

I dont know, thats why ima asking

[uncut harness]

or is it the same as all other ships?

[onyx crow]

Please tell me we can own space stations?

[wind panther]

Mods might start updating soon, shockingly

[high ferry]

nope

[random drift]

Like freighters?

[eternal radish]

So, it’s basically more difficult to get units fast? You’ll have to grind more?

[vernal sonnet]

what are the positives of this update?

[wind panther]

Anyone tried the station override yet?

[crude pulsar]

Pain. Pure Pain

[obsidian prairie]

That and cargo space. That's it.

[rancid ether]

Stasis devices/ FI's are same value afaik

[muted moth]

reported not to work earlier